Angeles City

[QUOTE=Chocha Monger;1162836]26. She will stay with you if you take her back to your country and grow old together even though you have a 30 yr head start.[/QUOTE]I'm pretty sure this one may by a lie based on the hard luck stories I've read here.

[QUOTE=Cyber Whip;1162580]My only question to the AC regulars about tipping is this. If you never tip and you pay the same barfine for ST as LT, what does the girl care to run after one pop, back to bar and get another customer?.[/QUOTE]I've had runners and let me tell you flat out. They simply don't care if you are a tipper of not. She already made up her mind to "run" as soon as you BF her. Although this may not apply to you but For anyone out there dumb enough to even think of tipping a runner then thats just more money in her pocket and not yours.

Also, your thought is not correct as how will she even know if you are going to tip her or not? As she never completed her agree upon time (overnite) with you? If she orginally agree LT and after one pop she demands a tip to stay longer? For me, this will not go unanswer as I would take her back to bar and complain to manager and Mama her lying tactics. I may not get my money back but at least I let them know I don't like being scammed and point out to them who the scammers working for them. I also try to take a picture of the gal (regular photo and nothing nude) and tell them I could post it for my friends as to the bar involve and gal involve in the scam.

And finally, the topic on tipping has been answered at least several time a year on this thread, just have to read back a little or do a search. Just my thoughts.

Shark

[QUOTE=Amjeck; 1162527]Interesting.

I find it the other way around. From my experience, Thais never ask or expect tips, but AC pinos do. [/QUOTE]For me, its been 50/50 for both Thai and pinoy. Half have asked and half don't. Guess mostly depends on who you take out.

Shark

[QUOTE=Cyber Whip]Lighten up guys, we are talking about $5-$10[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Socker;1162582]Suppose the prices were double or triple in AC and every girl was a total spoiled. Amject, What are they now. Unspoiled *[/QUOTE]Funny you should say that Socker because that is exactly what happened in Brazil. However, it was not in the form of just prices going up, but the exchange rate has more than halfed against the USD. Back in 2002 the exchange rate was 3. 8 BRL to 1 USD. It was normal to get a very nice girl for 100 BRL all night which was then equivalent to 26 USD. Today the bare minimum you will get a bottom of the barrel girl all night for is 150 BRL (the good ones demand from 300 - 500 BRL) or at today's exchange rate of 1. 57 that is 95 USD. So Cyber Whip, should we still take it so light if in a couple of years the USD fell against the PHP and all of a sudden the freely given $5-$10 turned to a demanded $10-$20?

[QUOTE=Honeydog;1162699]I'll second that been to Pattaya lately[/QUOTE]I live in Pattaya and the only time I can remember being asked for a tip by any Thai person was by the cleaning ladies in a hotel in Bangkok. And at the time they were gathered together eating lunch and only said it in a joking manner. So in my experience Thais really do not expect tips, however since many foreigners don't mind handing out money to make themselves feel good it does not hurt to ask.

By the same token I have never been asked for a tip by a service provider or anyone in PI for that matter.

[QUOTE=Sharka; 1162933]I also try to take a picture of the gal (regular photo and nothing nude) and tell them I could post it for my friends as to the bar involve and gal involve in the scam.

Shark[/QUOTE]I think I mentioned it here once. We should post pics of runners or starfish from the AC bars. I photograph not only the girls, but also their I'd (whether she's a barfine or FL). Quite possibly one of the reason I've had less than a handful of runners in all my time is that I have naked pics of the girl, and pics of the front / back of her I'd. I don't take girls who have not agreed to pics in advance or don't have an I'd. It never dawned on me to tell the girl I might post her pic if she ran.

[QUOTE=Westcoast1;1163026]I think I mentioned it here once. We should post pics of runners or starfish from the AC bars. I photograph not only the girls, but also their I'd (whether she's a barfine or FL). Quite possibly one of the reason I've had less than a handful of runners in all my time is that I have naked pics of the girl, and pics of the front / back of her I'd. I don't take girls who have not agreed to pics in advance or don't have an I'd. It never dawned on me to tell the girl I might post her pic if she ran.[/QUOTE]I like this policy. I have had only had a couple starfish or runners, as I am essentially a decent guy and not excessively ugly or overweight (a catch as far as these girls are concerned) , but I do not usually talk about pics and IDs up front, and I think doing so may give me more pics to share and help weed out the rare runner. I do regularly ask about staying all night, so if someone bolts after I snap a pic of their I'd I should at least have some ammo to present to the bar. I will also ask potential BFs to sign a model release form for any nude pics just to cover my ass as I heard it is now a big issue to photograph fillipinas naked without consent.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1162941]By the same token I have never been asked for a tip by a service provider or anyone in PI for that matter.[/QUOTE]Knowing that you sometimes post in Phils, leads me to assume that you must have spent a certain amount of time in Phils. I'm truly suprrised that you have never encountered the " tip please" request from anyone in Phils.

I've had it from taxi drivers, bellmen, doorman, girls in bar (natch!) , car cleaners.

Fortunately I've never had it from the guys thats pump gas, have had it from male golf caddies but not female, and once in the fabulous, state of the art Manila airport (yeah the one thats older than me!) had the "tip please" request from a tollet attendant as he handed me a towel.

These requests just fly right over my head. Sometimes I respond but most of the time I suddenly become quite blind and deaf.

[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai;1162639]In my experience Thais frequently ask for tips and usually the ones who least deserve one.[/QUOTE]From what venues? Are you seasoned or a newbie? Do you speak Thai?

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48; 1162920]To Socker,

The price in AC have been triple since 1998 and likey go double again the next 10 yr but it will still be much cheaper than in the US so just have fun.

Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]What does the USA have to do with anything? It's hardly a benchmark for any kind of prostitution.

[QUOTE=Westcoast1;1163026]I think I mentioned it here once. We should post pics of runners or starfish from the AC bars. I photograph not only the girls, but also their I'd (whether she's a barfine or FL). Quite possibly one of the reason I've had less than a handful of runners in all my time is that I have naked pics of the girl, and pics of the front / back of her I'd. I don't take girls who have not agreed to pics in advance or don't have an I'd. It never dawned on me to tell the girl I might post her pic if she ran.[/QUOTE]It is not a good idea to post pictures of these girls identifying as runners or non-performers. How would you like it if your picture is published as cheap, nasty, arrogant etc.

These girls desrve the respect for the situation they are in.

In prostituition it is the nature of the business to make money with least bit of damage to the body and soul of the providers. Having said this there are plenty of good service providers in AC. Many know what is expected of them and provide it. I am sure all the mongers have gotten atleast one time sex from their barfine whether mind blowing or not. Depending on the chemistry and friendship on the parties the sex will be good or just mechanical. You cannot say just because you barfine the girl the girl has to be your slave for the whole night and perform. Girls also have their personalities. Sometimes they are horny and perform very well. One of my barfines had sex with me continiously three or four times in the course of three hours and again in the morning.

As for runners I would gladly let them leave because the chemistry is not there.

[QUOTE=Sammon;1163214]It is not a good idea to post pictures of these girls identifying as runners or non-performers.[/QUOTE]How is this different from any other report? Are you saying we should post no pictures at all, or only pics with positive reviews?

TO anyone that was around AC this past weekend and happened to be at the Old Blue Nile on Saturday night.

Sorry about my friends! They had a fucking great time but sorta screwed over anyone else trying to have fun there! If any of you were there, I would love to hear what you have to say about them :P.

As for the ever ongoing pricing debate.

The lowest of the low BBS girl near Guangzhou is 200 RMB. Thats for one pop or 40 minutes, whichever happens first. Thats 1100 pesos. At a KTV in Changping, the minumum to get one pop will be 500RMB JUST for the girl. Thats 2500+ pesos. To keep a girl over night will be minimum 900RMB just to the girl. Thats 4500+ pesos. The most expensive girl I saw in AC was 3500 + a drink.

Sorry to everyone else but my mentality on this matter has changed entirely. Compared to what I have been paying for a girl at a KTV, I can barfine a girl. A normal night at a KTV costs me about 2000RMB. If the girl rocks my world. Giving her a 2000 peso tip per day and having her be exctatic when I walk back into her bar is well worth it.

If you can't compete, its not a prisoners dilemma, my spending habits won't affect you, they will just get me the girl I want with the attitude I want with the reaction I want. If you are worried about prices going up, get another job. Or monger less. You can always make more money, you can't get yesterday back.

[QUOTE=Sammon; 1163214]It is not a good idea to post pictures of these girls identifying as runners or non-performers. How would you like it if your picture is published as cheap, nasty, arrogant etc.

These girls desrve the respect for the situation they are in.

As for runners I would gladly let them leave because the chemistry is not there. [/QUOTE]I don't let chemistry get in the way. A girl agrees in the bar to stay until 10am, have breakfast, and perform all I want is simply being doubly-rewarded when the customer does not complain to the bar that she ran early. In fact, her boss will think she completed the job to the customer's satisfaction, while she has done half the job, gotten full pay, and fooled her boss. But, that's just me.

[QUOTE=Irony Monger;1163032]I will also ask potential BFs to sign a model release form for any nude pics just to cover my ass as I heard it is now a big issue to photograph fillipinas naked without consent.[/QUOTE]If they are posing and cheesing for the camera that should be consent enough. And what if it was a girlfriend or a wife?