Bangkok Massage Parlors - Except TULIP and ANNIES!

[QUOTE=Scorchin; 1466073]The most boring posts are those arguing that "X" paid 'too much. ' There is enough information on guideline payments here to make any further discussion a non-event.

I don't care if it is Thailand, that the WG comes from the rice fields of Issan, indeed that she is a WG. A decent f*ck in the UK is £100#150 / hour (Baht 4, 500. 6750).

If I get a good ST for a couple of hours and pay less than a third / half of the UK cost I am happy- and I don't give a sh*t about the moaners who claim I am running the whole

Thai prostitution industry. Yep, I and a couple of hundred readers of ISG are competing with every Jumbo jet that lands every half hour at Swampy a quarter full with potential mongers.

So dropping $100 on a WG is my concern and nowt to do with anyone else (plus a tip, of course, a few drinks and taxi money).[/QUOTE]You proved me right just now, You are a tourist and will give more tips easily because back home you are used to shitty service at 3 times the service.

You may call us residents moaners, But we know for sure the WGs here look upto you as easy to withdraw ATMs. And don't you worry, we get the same or better service than what you get, for less money.

We understand your case where you are so starved that you want to get as many girls as possible within the 3 days that you can manage to get leave from your pathetic job and save for 6 months to blow up here. You do enjoy, bt the Wgs enjoy even more having jokers who would tip so easily. Enjoy mate!

[QUOTE=AssLover945;1466048]Don't listen to the tourists who would compare the prices to western prices and habitually leave 500 THB as tips. Surprisingly in their own countries they would not even leave 5 USD tip at a restaurants, But they come to Thailand and they become over generous.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure what you base this opinion on.

In major USA cities with significant restaurant scenes 20% is a pretty standard tip, and some people leave more at the upscale restaurants if the service is exceptional. People in the USA are generally generous tippers. In cities like Miami Beach, visited by a lot of foreign tourists who try to avoid leaving a tip, it is common to automatically add 18% tip to the bill.

I do agree, Thailand is different and one need not tip as generously as in the USA. Some escort services charge enough to warrant no more than a small tip. Cherry's pricing structure assumes the girls will get a pretty generous tip. Annie's has a different price structure. The basic charge is much higher than at Cherry's so the tip need not be as generous.

Familiarity with the different price structures and common sense should be the guide.

If Bangkok Escort charges 11000 per girl for a-level escorts staying overnight and Bangkok Gold charges 10000 per girl for four hours, what would have been fair for Ann and Apple? I know Bangkok Gold is generally fully booked and the duo service is popular, so there is plenty of demand for a duo at 20000. This is a valid indicator of the high end of the market.

If I had great sex with Ann and Apple at night when they arrived and then again in the morning before they left, I'd probably tip them double the standard tip. I'd say 12000 total for two good looking a-level girls who are enthusiastic about the bisexual action, stay overnight and give me three or four shots is a good deal. If I took them out on the town with dinner, drinks and a visit to a club I might consider that part of the tip and give them a bit less.

[QUOTE=AssLover945;1465933]Appreciate taking effort to write a good detailed report.[/QUOTE]You quoted his full report to add a one line kudo. Have a heart for those trying to read the forum on tablets or smart phones. Rant Off.

Slim

[QUOTE=Paul Kausch;1466078]If I had great sex with Ann and Apple at night when they arrived and then again in the morning before they left, I'd probably tip them double the standard tip. I'd say 12000 total for two good looking a-level girls who are enthusiastic about the bisexual action, stay overnight and give me three or four shots is a good deal. If I took them out on the town with dinner, drinks and a visit to a club I might consider that part of the tip and give them a bit less.[/QUOTE]Hahaha LOL ROFL go ahead.

We can manage with a lot less. !

[QUOTE=Nvslim; 1466080]You quoted his full report to add a one line kudo. Have a heart for those trying to read the forum on tablets or smart phones. Rant Off.

Slim[/QUOTE]Hahaha You need to read some of my longer reports!

[QUOTE=AssLover945; 1466076]You proved me right just now, You are a tourist and will give more tips easily because back home you are used to shitty service at 3 times the service.

You may call us residents moaners, But we know for sure the WGs here look upto you as easy to withdraw ATMs. And don't you worry, we get the same or better service than what you get, for less money.

We understand your case where you are so starved that you want to get as many girls as possible within the 3 days that you can manage to get leave from your pathetic job and save for 6 months to blow up here. You do enjoy, bt the Wgs enjoy even more having jokers who would tip so easily. Enjoy mate![/QUOTE]Au contraire, mon frère. We tourists tip excessively so the girls will recognize you cheap bastards for what you are, a bunch of down and out expats who can't afford to live in the developed world and worry about tipping US$5 too much. Just joking mate. Maybe some guys over tip because they've had too much to drink and have lost their senses; others because they want to feel like a big shot; and still others because they genuinely feel sorry for the poor girl's water buffalo back home. Hell, I don't know why they over tip. My point is that by RTFF one can get a sense of the tipping norms.

[QUOTE=Paul Kausch;1466087]Au contraire, mon frère. We tourists tip excessively so the girls will recognize you cheap bastards for what you are, a bunch of down and out expats who can't afford to live in the developed world and worry about tipping US$5 too much. Just joking mate. Maybe some guys over tip because they've had too much to drink and have lost their senses; others because they want to feel like a big shot; and still others because they genuinely feel sorry for the poor girl's water buffalo back home. Hell, I don't know why they over tip. My point is that by RTFF one can get a sense of the tipping norms.[/QUOTE]You are right again, we el cheapos need to drink everyday, have some good food, go for our our usual fuck fix with a sweetie AND we got over that water buffalo story long time back. We left those stories for tourists!

[QUOTE=AssLover945; 1466081]Hahaha LOL ROFL go ahead.

We can manage with a lot less. ![/QUOTE]Dear Ass,

Guess I am a bit generous. When I was struggling to get started in my career I encountered plenty of bastards who tried to take advantage of me; and over the years I've encountered many more people who enjoy exploiting others. A long, long time ago I made up my mind I was not going to treat people that way. Funny thing, I find people who I deal with on an ongoing basis appreciate how I treat them and find ways to make it up to me. What goes around comes around.

Sincerely, PK

Do girls really respect cheapness and frown at big tippers?

I think this concept is perpetuated by guys who know they are miserly.

Being generous is one - good - thing, overpaing is another - bad - thing.

When you send an email to the shop and ask about the rate for overnight outcall, you get 3. 000 THB as reply. So imho there's no need to think that the girls are not satisfied with what they get. When I go to a barber shop and ask about the rate for hair cut, I also don't double up what they tell me, just because I think that poorirl/guy that cuts my hair doesn't earn enough. I've read dozends if not hundreds of reviews about guys shagging girls from Tulip, Mango Massage, Cherry Massage, Snow White or even Victorias Massage. I never read that one single girl asked for more money than 1. 500 THB for 2 hours or 2. 000 THB for overnight, I never read about a girl complaining about getting not enough money. And you can be sure that with all those cheap charlies around in these forums, if it had happened it would have had come up.

The comparisions of escort girls and girls from massage shops is kind of useless when it comes to the rates. Different services, different rates. There's a simple reason why the girls work at Mango Massage et. al: they can make a lot of money by fucking a lot of fat and ugly farangs like me. And they probably would earn significantly less as an escort girl (yes, I know , it's just an assumption).

I stick with my plan. I fuck the girls, I take them out, get something to eat, get something to drink, have fun at a bar or a night club, fuck them more. No girl I had booked in the past ever complained about this. They all left me with 3. 000 THB in her wallet and with a big smile on her face in the morning.

While you all labor on about the intricacies of tipping here's the next post as promised. Not a fun one, this.

Oil from Mango.

After many a recommendation, out-called Oil for a 2 hour session. Many reviews about her Brazilian like butt and how she takes it like a champ had me excited for this encounter, needless to say I ended up disappointed.

Here's why.

Firstly. Nothing like the pics. The girl is short. Very short. And for me who is over 6'5, this was going to be awkward. Ok, I don't mind short girls, they are "bouncy" and very malleable especially for a tall guy like myself and they have PSE attitudes, but not this one. She seemed in a grim mood when she showed up.

Came in and exchanged very few pleasantries. Went straight to the bathroom to get cleaned up and she seemed to take ages. I actually had to go in and find out what was taking so long only to find her just sitting under the shower.

After some laborious attempts to get her out, she succumbed and came onto the bed. I asked for a massage as I lay on my front. I wanted her to massage my back and head down to my ass for some good rimming but this was one of the most lazy, stiff and dreadfully boring massages of my life. She had no incentive to even try. It almost felt like she was just leaning her hands and body against mine.

Ok. So no biggie. Besides freaky sex triumphs the massage anytime. So I shot that experience aside and was looking to get all up in her. Mediocre BBBJ, no enthusiasm same like the massage. This should have been a dead giveaway that the rest of the session was going to go downhill. Chicks who give bad BBBJ's do not fuck well. Period.

But I labored on. She put on a condom and into her pussy. Not bad with her juicy ass bouncing all up around me. But just then, Blood! Freaking blood on the condom, blood on the sheets at my hotel which I just checked in an hour ago. She was on her period I think. I freak. First I make sure the condom is intact, no tears and what not. Rush to the bathroom for a quick clean around my genital area. Needless to say I am a bit freaked out but felt assured that no blood got on me.

Oil also cleaned up, came back to the bed and demanded I do her up the ass. I wasn't really in the mood after all that, but went through the motions. To be quite honest the only thing on my mind was blood, blood, blood. After a few thrusts in her ass, I pulled out, cummed on her back and sent her on her dismal way. She seemed very out of place, disoriented and it occurred to me she did not want to be there. I get it that most people don't like their job but it's part of that job responsibility to put on an act for paying customers. And this was not even the case.

She took her money and left, no goodbyes, nothing. I was still stuck with "blood," "blood," "blood" running thru my mind. Took another shower and got some seafood. It always seems to calm me down.

Now I am reluctant to try Mango again.

Next "Bangkok in July Report". Candy from Cherrys.

[QUOTE=Paul Kausch; 1466094]Dear Ass,

Guess I am a bit generous. When I was struggling to get started in my career I encountered plenty of bastards who tried to take advantage of me; and over the years I've encountered many more people who enjoy exploiting others. A long, long time ago I made up my mind I was not going to treat people that way. Funny thing, I find people who I deal with on an ongoing basis appreciate how I treat them and find ways to make it up to me. What goes around comes around.

Sincerely, PK[/QUOTE]Now we all know where you are coming from to be so generous. And it is great to know yoy compare your career with prostitute!

Loved the analogy!

You are indeed hilarious

[QUOTE=AssLover945; 1466076]You proved me right just now, You are a tourist and will give more tips easily because back home you are used to shitty service at 3 times the service.

You may call us residents moaners, But we know for sure the WGs here look upto you as easy to withdraw ATMs. And don't you worry, we get the same or better service than what you get, for less money.

We understand your case where you are so starved that you want to get as many girls as possible within the 3 days that you can manage to get leave from your pathetic job and save for 6 months to blow up here. You do enjoy, bt the Wgs enjoy even more having jokers who would tip so easily. Enjoy mate![/QUOTE]1. I do not pay for shitty service. Based on ten years of visiting Thailand I have overall had worse service in Bangkok than in the Uk and Europe.

2. It is a characteristic of 'residents' on this board that they moan; maybe you get better service cheaper but that is subjective!

3. I have no wish to spend my time in Thailand just f*cking WGs (that seems to be the main activity of residents!). I come to enjoy the culture and the country (and to f*ck a WG a couple of timesa week). Where is this pathetic job you think I have and where do you get the idea that I save for six months. Unfounded generalisation after unfounded generalisation.

I repeat. Tourists who post on ISG are so few in number that they have no influence on WG prices. That is reality.

PS In November I plan to meet with Gulliver's pick up from last year. A local dinner for two, a few drinks and what turned into an overnight (and elevenses). All for Baht 2, 000 (all I had in my wallet.

[QUOTE=AssLover945;1466119]Now we all know where you are coming from to be so generous.[/QUOTE]People in the service industries who deliver good service deserve good tips. It is only fair to be generous with these people. They've earned it. I think 1500 is a fair tip for a couple hours of good service with a girl at Cherry's. On an extended stay, if there are multiple sessions with the girl, more is appropriate.

If one booked a girl for a session and at the end of the session tipped the girl 1500, then went to get something to eat, then went back and booked the same girl for a second session, at the end of that session one wouldn't say: "I tipped you last time so no tip this time."

[QUOTE=AssLover945; 1466119]And it is great to know yoy compare your career with prostitute!

Loved the analogy!

You are indeed hilarious[/QUOTE]Huh? An analogy is: "A resemblance in some particulars between things otherwise unlike." I did not use an analogy in my previous post.

So, for the mentally challenged, I'll try to make it simpler. I have dealt with people who like to take advantage of others. I do not like these people. I am not one of these people. This approach has served me well.

[QUOTE=Paul Kausch;1466243]So, for the mentally challenged, I'll try to make it simpler. I have dealt with people who like to take advantage of others. I do not like these people. I am not one of these people. This approach has served me well.[/QUOTE]Paul - Well said ;)

When one is young and handsum, one thinks charm has some monetary value.

When one get to our age, time is money, and a few extra dollars is not important.

For the provider, that extra few dollars is meaningful and more often than not appreciated.