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From the Philstar, to me reads like a fantasy land given the issues the country faces. Others have FR on the economy etc so while the article itself is more a positive spin / off piece for certain families IMHO the comments by the readers are fairly negative, some thinking it piece is very funny.
[URL]http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2014/11/01/1386800/now-perfect-time-invest-phl[/URL]
[QUOTE=RadicalGuy;1637010]I just watched a move on NetFlix called ". " Very realistic and illuminating, and shot onsite in Manila. Check it out.
RG.[/QUOTE]+1 for your movie tip. I saw "Metro Manila" last night on Netflix and it was great. It is not a documentary. It is a very well done gritty drama about a peasant farming family forced to leave their land and trying to survive in Manila. The wife has to take a job in a bar and the husband gets a job driving an armored car for a security company. It kind of reminded me of "Amores Perros" another extremely well done film that takes place in gritty Mexico City. Two thumbs up for both films.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;1639569]From the Philstar, to me reads like a fantasy land given the issues the country faces. Others have FR on the economy etc so while the article itself is more a positive spin / off piece for certain families IMHO the comments by the readers are fairly negative, some thinking it piece is very funny.
[URL]http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2014/11/01/1386800/now-perfect-time-invest-phl[/URL][/QUOTE]All the Chinese forex flooding in post GFC has created an illusion of progress but beneath the surface its business as usual, unfortunately.
AV.
Nice article from Margarita Station about a politician. The one from Cebu currently in the main courts for alleged fraud etc with regards to buying land that was under water in Cebu. Wanting to make sure ONLY the westerners prove they are good and wholesome (as if we are not). No mention of a bill for the pinoys who are in many cases far worse. Which is why IMHO some girls prefer westerners to what their local boys offer, but that's just my view.
Made me chuckle especially the bit about Certificate of Moral Character LOL Where and who would give that. Maybe ask one of the cutie you are shagging LOL.
With the other things the politicians could do to help the ailing economy this representative is focused on really important maters. And her electorate in Cebu no doubt given the 2016 elections.
[URL]http://www.margaritastation.com/readfull.php?m=1578[/URL]
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;1640247]Nice article from Margarita Station about a politician. The one from Cebu currently in the main courts for alleged fraud etc with regards to buying land that was under water in Cebu. Wanting to make sure ONLY the westerners prove they are good and wholesome (as if we are not). No mention of a bill for the pinoys who are in many cases far worse. Which is why IMHO some girls prefer westerners to what their local boys offer, but that's just my view.
Made me chuckle especially the bit about Certificate of Moral Character LOL Where and who would give that. Maybe ask one of the cutie you are shagging LOL.
With the other things the politicians could do to help the ailing economy this representative is focused on really important maters. And her electorate in Cebu no doubt given the 2016 elections.
[URL]http://www.margaritastation.com/readfull.php?m=1578[/URL][/QUOTE]Breath take hypocrisy like this is standard fare here. This bill is political grand standing. We can only hope it never passes. As I understand it your consular officials are going to have to come up with a certificate of character & z certificate of fiduciary capability. At present embassies in the Philippines do have to provide a 'Certificate of no impediment' which requires a foreigner to prove he / she is not married at time of application for marriage.
These additional requirements will be burdensome. My home country of Australia has already implemented massive increases in visa application costs for applicants wishing to bring in a Filipino spouse. Formerly about $1,600 now about $16,000 in Australian dollars. This is cutting out some men of lesser means but there is still a conga line of Ozzie fools lining up to pay this money for a woman they have never even met. I kid you not.
Longer term nonsense like this must adversely affect the marrying off of woman from poor families & consequently the inflow of remittance money which stands at billions currently.
Short sighted, how typical.
Where is the political opposition in all this? Not a word from them pointing out the blatant hypocrisy?
No, they are all the same. Just waiting their turn at plundering the nations wealth also.
AV.
[QUOTE=Amavida;1640538] As I understand it your consular officials are going to have to come up with a certificate of character & z certificate of fiduciary capability.[/QUOTE]Not sure what you mean by "your consular officials", I took it to mean it would apply to all of them.
[QUOTE]At present embassies in the Philippines do have to provide a 'Certificate of no impediment' which requires a foreigner to prove he / she is not married at time of application for marriage.
[/QUOTE]Other then the actual "Certificate of Good Moral Character" the bill is pretty much redundant for US citizens. Proof of financial capability to support your intended spouse is already required by the US as well as a full criminal background check; done by both the FBI (via the NCIC data base) and the man's state Crime Info Center (local data base).
Although Gwen did say "some of the foreigners" are "vagabonds or social and moral derelicts in their own country", she neglected to mention the thousands, or perhaps even the 10's of thousands, of Filipinas who are happily married to foreigners and how not only their lives, but their family's lives have benefitted from the union. As you have said here and others have said elsewhere, nothing more then political grandstanding. But even if the bill does pass, I doubt it will have any significant impact on the marriage process or truly prevent any abuse / exploitation of Pinays from occurring.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;1640247] Wanting to make sure ONLY the westerners prove they are good and wholesome (as if we are not). No mention of a bill for the pinoys who are in many cases far worse. [/QUOTE]This bill looks like a blessing to me. "Sorry baby, I can't get the certificate. We'll have to keep things as they are. " The Philippines... where dreams keep coming true.
Will thwart those vagabonds who want to remain in the Philippines under a spouse visa.
If it becomes law I reckon a court will nullify it due to it being exclusively focused on Pinays.
[QUOTE==]“The exploitation of our Filipino women, through the so-called mail-order or pen-pal, Facebook, website-made and other Internet-made marriages, has not only caused untold miseries and suffering to our Filipino women but it has also brought dishonor and disgrace to Filipino womanhood,” she added.[/QUOTE]Sounds like sour grapes to me.
[QUOTE=RollAides;1640884]Sounds like sour grapes to me.[/QUOTE]It's high school. The younger, prettier girls orbited the older guys. Why? They could drive, often had some pocket money, had grown into their bodies, were the stars of the varsity sports teams, etc. In a patriarchal system the emphasis is on enhancing local (insider) male esteem. Wound someone's pride and he may react. I doubt many Filipino guys are thrilled by our presence here. And let's be honest, the loutish behaviour of many foreign males leaves a lot to be desired. I don't support this silly law, but I understand from where it arises.
[QUOTE=Hutsori;1640898]It's high school. The younger, prettier girls orbited the older guys. Why? They could drive, often had some pocket money, had grown into their bodies, were the stars of the varsity sports teams, etc. In a patriarchal system the emphasis is on enhancing local (insider) male esteem. Wound someone's pride and he may react. I doubt many Filipino guys are thrilled by our presence here. And let's be honest, the loutish behaviour of many foreign males leaves a lot to be desired. I don't support this silly law, but I understand from where it arises.[/QUOTE]I was being silly. Still, I'm standing by that the quotee needs to be fucked. Hard, in the backdoor if possible. Dirty foreigners. Dirty, dirty, foreigners.
There's obviously some outside influence in the language and intent of the proposed statute. If any American guy is going to get in line and marry his online love of a lifetime, he'll want to take a look at the International Marriage Broker Registration Act (IMBRA). The proposed Filipino statue is like running the low hurdles compared to IMBRA. The woman proposing this legislation has obviously been misguided. On the other hand, maybe she's trying to misguide the well reasoned and enlightened voting public of the country.
There's obviously some outside influence in the language and intent of the proposed statute. If any American guy is going to get in line and marry his online love of a lifetime, he'll want to take a look at the International Marriage Broker Registration Act (IMBRA). The proposed Filipino statue is like running the low hurdles compared to IMBRA. The woman proposing this legislation has obviously been misguided. On the other hand, maybe she's trying to misguide the nation's well reasoned and enlightened voting public.
[QUOTE=RollAides;1640884]Sounds like sour grapes to me.[/QUOTE]Its boiler plate hypocrisy. Standard fare here. Playing to the home crowd. Can be cheerfully ignored.
AV.
[QUOTE=PipJaeger;1640597]Not sure what you mean by "your consular officials", I took it to mean it would apply to all of them.[/QUOTE]Non Philipine Consular officials.
[QUOTE=PipJaeger;1640597]Other then the actual "Certificate of Good Moral Character" the bill is pretty much redundant for US citizens. Proof of financial capability to support your intended spouse is already required by the US as well as a full criminal background check; done by both the FBI (via the NCIC data base) and the man's state Crime Info Center (local data base).[/QUOTE]Yanks do. Aussies for one don't. Aussies will be affected. Other sountries I am not familiar with but most less stringent than US.
[QUOTE=PipJaeger;1640597]I doubt it will have any significant impact on the marriage process or truly prevent any abuse / exploitation of Pinays from occurring.[/QUOTE]As above paragraph.
AV.
[QUOTE=Amavida;1641040]Its boiler plate hypocrisy. Standard fare here. Playing to the home crowd. Can be cheerfully ignored.
AV.[/QUOTE]Indeed, but if there's anyone who hates a 19 year old girl being fucked hard it's a 50 year old woman who hasn't gotten any in a decade.
Anyway, I was just trying to add a little holiday cheer to the proceedings. It's ber already!