Makati

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3031071]* Warning. A bottle of booze in a Burgos gogo bar will be expensive, in the hundreds of USD. You should maybe ask the price before you order one. You can probably get the same bottle at any store that sells it for $10-$15 USD (p500-ish).[/QUOTE]That's true but with that said, it will end up cheaper than buying round after round after round of lady drinks with multiple women.

And since the bottle actually has alcohol while the lady drinks do not, the women become loser and more freaky as the drinks keep pouring.

Items moved from the Manila thread to here in the Makati Thread.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3030995]There is no comparison between FKK and PH, totally different things. FKK is close to the TH system, 1 hour, condom, in a back room, mechanical and soulless. SNIP and in FKK 50 Euros is the starting price for 30 minutes, [/QUOTE]Great post.

Ahhh. The truth comes out. Thanks OAU for the info that the OP was omitting. SEA might be the last bastion of condom-less joy. For me, hard pass on any system where the cover is typical. Also for those not experienced here, while ST here might mean 1 (or even 2) pops, girls don't watch a clock. Its generally a mileau. The 30 minutes you mention, inclusive of other mates who visited FKK's, is similar to the system in Mexico. Many girls in Mexico charge per minute, and you have to agree / negosyo before going to the room, on both the time and price. If you ask for 20 minutes, she might say "200 pesos ($20)". If you ask how much for 30 minutes, "300 pesos ($30)". And so on. Once you get to the room, at the about the 25 minute mark she will stop whatever she is doing, spash some water on that poon, dress, and hold her hand out for her p300. It doesns't matter that you were just about to bust a nut. Its that sharp. If you use a ST hotel, an attendant will knock on your door at minute 25, letting you know that you need to be out by minute 30. When she hears that knock, she's DONE, and getting dressed. Its that transactional, and just the opposite of the Phils outlook. ST hotels in Phils give you at least 3 hours for a rental, while in Mexico its 30 minutes.

Not sure how going overtime works at an FKK, but in Phils, she's in the game until you bust a nut, there's no time limit. Also gogo girls typically agree to stay for 2 pops, which is also a wild difference with the FKK / MX model.

FKK question. When you agree on a price with a girl, then retreat to a room and seal the deal. Do you pay her before, or after?

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3030995]I assure you that what you'll get in AC for $100, has no comparison to FKK or TH GoGos.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure the OP will go for that. He has it in his mind that whatever he was paying in another place ($50) is what he will pay here in Phils. That in general leaves out all gogo bars.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;3031008]I've seen almost identical posts, in several city forums, comparing another place and complaining that their preferred place has no equal locally. If you want the FKK experience and price, Germany, Austria and Switzerland all have options with a wide range of prices, although I didn't find any, when doing my research, where 50 would just get you anything more than in the door. At least another 50 was needed to get basic service.

If you're going to (any country for a first visit), forget about every other country. Find what that country does better and go for that. Go-gos are always going to be more expensive. There will almost always be extra expenses. Whether it's online or girls bars, street girls or escort services, there's almost always something worth checking out. Whatever works best for you, you won't maximize the experience if you're trying to compare it to another place and time.[/QUOTE]Spot on. In any country, there will be different mongering niches (online, FL / SW, gogos, escort services), and a different price range in each niche. Its fair to compare the price of this or that niche (say, FL / SW) from country to country (its your stack), but only in the academic sense of deciding if you want to pay more in one of those places for the opportunity of visiting and checking the place out. If you are only looking at the money, just go to the less expensive country and enjoy that niche there. Write us a report, and we'll keep the light on for 'ya.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;3031008]I've been hearing guys rave about the Philippines for 45 years. In a few days I'll finally check it out myself. As always, I'll do things my own way, find my own experiences and make my own mistakes. [/QUOTE]That's exactly the right attitude. Hi-5.

Edited: Posts so good, I had to toss in some pics. Pics, another filipina joy.

[QUOTE=Dinosaur9;3031074]And since the bottle actually has alcohol while the lady drinks do not, the women become loser and more freaky as the drinks keep pouring.[/QUOTE]Looser might be an understatement. Have seen whale's table completely surrounded by a line of smashed girls (a human curtain), and some pretty raunchy stuff going on inside the curtain.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3030862](guessing there is a Hanady 1 somewhere else). [/QUOTE]Across from Kenny Rogers. Saw it walking to Mixue.

FWIW I've heard nothing but bad things about Iron Horse. My local friends say that bar is notorious for girls pickpocketing drunk customers and just being shady in general. Wouldn't be surprised if that includes drugging / spiking your drinks.

[QUOTE=Pekkakoo;3030795]Yeah Token bar could be a nice spot for pool. The girls at Cubana also mentioned it last night. I guess there is always someone to play against you if you go there alone. I just got used to playing pool and drinking beer in Thailand, which is full of those beer bars with pool tables. Here not so much. It is fun and 2-3 beers makes you relaxed and play better but after that, well, it is not going to work LOL.

I think Lips I have seen on Burgos somewhere. Where is that Iron horse? Also there? If you google or read reddit there are reports that some guy (s) has been drugged and robbed with a spiked drink in Iron horse but I don't know how big that risk really is.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3031150]Looser might be an understatement. Have seen whale's table completely surrounded by a line of smashed girls (a human curtain), and some pretty raunchy stuff going on inside the curtain.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately it didn't work out in my favor my last night. I bought the bottle too late so after a few minutes of freakiness all it did was make all of the women at my booth sleepy LOL.

When I go back, I'm sticking solely to bottles as soon as I get there. It would have saved me a fortune.

Also does it seem to anyone else that it's almost impossible to get rid of the extras at these bars? There was one girl I had chemistry with and I kept telling her and the waitess to get rid of the stragglers, and literally none of them left LOL.

[QUOTE=Dinosaur9;3031382]Also does it seem to anyone else that it's almost impossible to get rid of the extras at these bars? There was one girl I had chemistry with and I kept telling her and the waitess to get rid of the stragglers, and literally none of them left LOL.[/QUOTE]I will PM you with info about this privacy in the gogo, when you PM privileges.

[QUOTE=Dinosaur9;3031074]That's true but with that said, it will end up cheaper than buying round after round after round of lady drinks with multiple women.[/QUOTE]I must have missed this post before. It absolutely makes sense.

[QUOTE=Dinosaur9;3031382]And since the bottle actually has alcohol while the lady drinks do not, the women become loser and more freaky as the drinks keep pouring. [/QUOTE]I rarely pay attention to the LD's. Girls usually get some kind of cranberry drink, or a shot of tequila. On a recent Pervin' da Burg outing, even before her drink arrived, a Marquee girl was groping me up more than I was her. Cute, and hot to trot. When the rose-colored drink arrived I asked her what it was. "VodCran". I took a sip and it had booze, and too much booze. There was only 1 other customer in the bar, and a mess of cuties. I got about 25 minutes of Pervin' out of it, as she stayed an extra 10 minutes after finishing the drink until I billed out. She popped her boobs out of her bikini and grabbed my hands and slapped them to her boobs. Oh, fellas, I almost forgot to tell you: "Westy you are a honsum". Never heard that in a gogo before.

[QUOTE=BackpackBrian;3030892]Any ST that costs a total of $200 US is steep, considering the alternatives in other countries like Germany.

I can visit a German FKK and spend about $50 Euro for a ST, not including the entrance, but with that I get food, sauna, etc.[/QUOTE]It is true that prices in the Phils have increased to a point it is not a cheap mongering destination if you plan only to use gogo bars. Phils does still have tons of young pussy available for a reasonable cost but not in the gogo bars. There is no point comparing FKK with Gogo bars. If you love the FKK scene go there. But the prices there have gone up as well. 50 Euro will get you pussy in a down market RTC (although there at least BB is done) but not the hotter girls in clubs like Sharks or Oase etc. There you are pushing 200 Euro for an hour not counting entrance And the sex is quick and commercial compared to Filipinas.

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;3031473]It is true that prices in the Phils have increased to a point it is not a cheap mongering destination if you plan only to use gogo bars. Phils does still have tons of young pussy available for a reasonable cost but not in the gogo bars. There is no point comparing FKK with Gogo bars. If you love the FKK scene go there. But the prices there have gone up as well. 50 Euro will get you pussy in a down market RTC (although there at least BB is done) but not the hotter girls in clubs like Sharks or Oase etc. There you are pushing 200 Euro for an hour not counting entrance And the sex is quick and commercial compared to Filipinas.[/QUOTE]Wow thanks for the FKK price update. The FKK / Burgos comparison falls apart under scrutiny.

Caveat: While AC barfine prices roughly doubled after Covid (about 2500 to about 5000), Makati / Burgos barfines (and associated tips) did not. Current Burgos barfines are in the p4000 range, and girl's tip is around p5000 in most bars (went trapsing thru recently). With drinks, about p10,000. Which is the same prices as 2015.

I have at least 1 more Burgos gogo report coming soon.

WC.

Marquee bar report. Wednesday evening, 10-11 pm. 17 gals, 11 easily do-able. Three cuties dancing on stage. Was approached by a 4' 10"-ish cutie, flat tummy, amply firm at Hootervilee, great hair and dazzling face. I think she said she was 24. She was doing' more groping than I was. Had a strong desire to get me to either barfine her on the spot, or take her into the private room. I asked costs for both; according to the girl it was P6000 barfine and p6000 to the girl. So, Marquee would be about p13,000 all in after including BF, girl's tip, and your drinks. My rum / coke was p350, girl's drink I think was 450, so all-in p800 for half an hour of Pervin' the Burg with a girl who had trouble not pushing my hands about her chesticles.

BTW, by 11 easily do-able, more specifically I mean something like this: One 9, one 8, and nine 7's. Of the remaining girls, none were too old, but they were all 'proportionally challenged'.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3031895]I asked costs for both; according to the girl it was P6000 barfine and p6000 to the girl. So, Marquee would be about p13,000 all in after including BF, girl's tip, and your drinks.[/QUOTE]Did you ask how much for FS in the private room? Or was it the same as the takeout BF?

G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3031910]Did you ask how much for FS in the private room? Or was it the same as the takeout BF?

G.[/QUOTE]The girl said it was the same as take out. You agree in advance to p14 k. No idea of time limit in the room as it was not my first drink of the night and I had my hands full of TnA (she kept her hands busy also). She was pushing pretty good for some P4P, while I was fine with just the pervin'. I left the coins from my blue note change for the waitress. All in about p900.

Hey everyone,

Stayin in Makati at a nicer hotel. I'll be making my first trip to Manila in a few days and spending a week on a work trip.

1) Anyone else going to be there and want to hang out? I would enjoy some running mates to enjoy the sites and sounds. Did this before in a few other cities and always found it more fun to hang out with some like minded guys.

2) I don't intend to venture far from Makati area, is this a mistake? I will likely only have evenings after my work meetings to explore and want to stay in the safer areas, esp if I will be alone.

3) As a total newbie to the city and area, am I best to go to the gogo bars? Cafes? Or from an escort service? I prefer freelancers who are more personable vs escort or bar girls usually (as in other countries they are more business and I like a softer touch).

4) How are the local ladies at BJs? I've been to countries where even getting that on offer from the ladies was difficult to find. Yangon in particular.

5) Any other tips / recommendations are welcome.

Cheers lads!

I think I filed reports on this place previously, last year. The location is the pre-covid Rogue's gogo bar (Burgos St, corner Makati Ave, across from al Tarboosh resto. I reported last year that it was filled with fugs in their 30's and 40's. No more. Made a quick stop in and chat the mama a bit. Same pool table. Nothing of real substance in my report, except to say the girls average age has dropped by a decade. Not as good a selection as Maison, Lips, Kojack's, or V-8, but much better than before. I don't have drink or barfine prices.

Lollipop bar report. Location: Inside the Nautica entrance, don't turn left to head into Nautica, walk towards the back a few steps and find the stairs that go upstairs to the left; its on the second floor. Smaller bar that rarely has more than 10 gals.

Went in around 11 pm and there were 10 gals. 5 barely do-able, 5 not close. The do-able girls appear to be late 20's. Other than the waitress taking my drink order, nobody approached me for about 5 minutes. Then a younger early 20's thing sat down with me and chatted me up, FOB and new in the bar. She didn't push for a drink, so I got her one. Two older gals on the stage, late 20's but nice figures. Its a rather dull setting, nobody on stage does anything other than shuffle. I was the only customer, and have never been there when there was more than one other customer. Previously I think I reported a small room in the corner for privado, but that appears to be gone now.

Barfine according to the FOB gal is p3900, girl tip is p5000. You could give this place a pass and not miss much. Rum / coke was p300, the LD was about p400.

And annuder ting. Outside on the street are signs for Nautica, Lollipop, and Par Avion. I was always scratching my head, trying to find out what name went with which place. Even the door guards out front (and the gogo girls in Nautica) didn't know. A mama was walking out with me down the stairs as I was departing and she pointed me back upstairs to the 3rd floor. That place is Par Avion sports bar. Pool table and big screen TV's (no gogo girls).