Sao Paulo Reports

[QUOTE=WaterMage47;2125695]I will be staying in alphaville (comfort suites) for 3 weeks. Is there any good address or contact that you know of in this area? I am new to Brazil and don't speak a word of Portuguese, don't know if a lot of garotas are speaking English. Every advices will be much appreciated. Knowing that I won't be able to move outside alphaville unfortunately.[/QUOTE]You're stuck in Alphaville. You're new to Brazil and you don't speak a word of Portuguese. Generally, three strikes you're screwed (or in this case, not screwed), but the good news you have three weeks to figure it out.

Here's my advice:

Get your ass on WhatsApp. Use Google translator or another translator to communicate on WhatsApp.

Befriend a cool doorman or reception guy who you could tip if you need to speak with a girl on the phone. Perhaps they even know some local talent.

Since Alphaville is not a hot bed of activity, I would be inclined to guide you to find the few escorts working the Alphaville and Barueri area. These might not be the youngest, tightest girls in Brazil, but these women might still blow your mind. If money's no object, you might be able to get a hot escort to jump in an Uber and come see you for her two hour fee and a premium. You can always ask (on WhatsApp). I'm guessing late morning or early afternoons might work best for them (less traffic, less business). Who knows they might be slow on weekends? Many Brazilians hang with the family on weekends.

There's a few local websites that you will have to get clever at using. I have spoken before about how to navigate them. In fairness to the ISG operator, I will not name them here. While I think ISG is a great website for travelers, it really does not compete the same way with the local sites built for locals.

A quick search I found a highly-rated mature escort in the area and a highly-regarded massage place. Massage places can be good because there's no commitment to take a look.

[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/gata-namoradinha-de-seios-grandes-e-liberal-atendimento-completo-id-vwddt[/URL]

[URL]https://massagistasdealphaville.********.com.br/[/URL]

If you have more questions, feel free to PM me.

[QUOTE=WaterMage47;2125695]Hello all,

I will be staying in alphaville (comfort suites) for 3 weeks. Is there any good address or contact that you know of in this area?

I am new to Brazil and don't speak a word of Portuguese, don't know if a lot of garotas are speaking English.

Every advices will be much appreciated. Knowing that I won't be able to move outside alphaville unfortunately.

Regards,

B.[/QUOTE]Best is to hire a Uber and go to some good clinica in Sao Paulo, Clinica Tangara has two english speaking managers, Takuma and Suzan.And a line up of more than 20 garotas.

Adress: Rua Tangara 200 , near parque do Ibirapuera.

Regards,

ABG.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2125844]SP is way better than Rio de Janeiro. The last time I said Rio was way better than SP was when I had not visited SP yet (before December 2016). I have more experience with mongering scenes in Rio. I don't mislead any members.[/QUOTE]If you told people that Rio was better than Sampa when you had never been to Sampa, then in my books that qualifies as misleading people. How could you have personal knowledge that one place was better than the other when you hadn't been to one of them? Now, I too have told people that I think Rio is better than Sampa, and stated my reasons for saying that. But, I drew that conclusion only after I had mongered in both cities. That's the way to go about it my friend. You can't draw valid comparisons when you only have half the facts.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2125844]SP is way better than Rio de Janeiro. The last time I said Rio was way better than SP was when I had not visited SP yet (before December 2016). I have more experience with mongering scenes in Rio. . I don't mislead any members. Unfortunately SP is more expensive, that's why I prefer Rio of the past time. Please read my threads. Do research and check the dates of my posts before jumping to conclusions.

I have been to Scandalo on my second trip to SP. My first time going to Sp was in December 2016. I am talking about reais not dollars. Maybe You were not lucky or you are considered to be a typical gringo. It is not because you don't succeed that means others don't succeed. There are many factors. I only fucked three scandalo girls.g.[/QUOTE]You seem like a nice guy but you are a very unreliable poster when it comes to providing accurate information. That is my complaint.

You write above that you first said Rio was better than SP BEFORE you ever visited SP? That alone proves my point. You had no personal experience in SP yet posted on this board that Rio was better. Just straight up unreliable reportage.

Then you say that after you visted SP at the end of 2016 you changed your mind and wrrote that SP was better. Now you are misreporting AGAIN right now. You and I argued in January of 2017 after your 10 day visit to SP and you were still claiming RJ was better than SP. Today you are claiming that you did not argue with me after your visit. Straight up wrong. You wrote in January "I wrote this report before going to Sao Paulo, I was in Sao Paulo for one weeks now I can say I prefer Rio over Sao Paulo ". Several posts of debate ensued in January of 2017. You read the posts, as you are the one with the memory problem.

My point is not whether SP or Rio is better, that is an opinion. My point is that you really do have a tendency to contradict yourself and misremember. I am not saying you are a liar. But I am saying that you are unreliable. This board exists for the purposes of trading information. Good information should be commended. Bad information should be called out.

When you write that you paid 400-600 for all night at Scadnalo, I called that out because that is not the norm there. Not the norm for gringos, and not the norm for Brasileiros. That is not the norm for anyone and has not been the norm for years at Scandalo. Someone planning a trip to SP reading this board and seeing your misinformation would be misled. That is why I call you out. Everyone agrees that the girls start by asking for 600-800 per HOUR in Scandalo. And then you ask us to believe that you "always pay" 400-600 for all night. So the conversation is "How much?" "600 an hour amor". "How about 400 all night at my place? "OK amor". Right.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2125844]SP is way better than Rio de Janeiro. The last time I said Rio was way better than SP was when I had not visited SP yet (before December 2016). I have more experience with mongering scenes in Rio. . I don't mislead any members. Unfortunately SP is more expensive, that's why I prefer Rio of the past time. Please read my threads. Do research and check the dates of my posts before jumping to conclusions.[/QUOTE]Funny post.

Back when you said that Rio was the way better city, you had not yet visited SP.

Now that you've actually been to SP, you say that SP is way better, LOL.

In actuality, neither of them are better or way better, or worse than the other. They're just different.

Just because one's tastes are different, or one has dreams of the past, doesn't make one city particularly better than the other.

They are both fun.

You are simply stating your preference, which is great.

We're all entitled to our opinions.

As far as price paid to girls at Scandallo, etc;.

Just as you did, once you get a girl out of there, any price is feasible.

I've met girls who work at the various venues, depending on the time of day, or day of the week; Cafe Photo, Scandallo, Casarao, and even at the low end daytime places in Centro.

They charge depending on the venue, from a 50R quickie, to 800R from a fat cat at Scandallo.

In all fairness to Komo, it is possible he pulled a Scandaloo girl all night for 600 reais. Last year, I had a Scandaloo girl spend the night with me several times for below market rates. I was lucky and we had a connection. I paid 650 to get her out of the club at 2 am after we had been together several times. Twice she spent the night for 400 R. One of those nights I took her to a concert. Eventually, she bailed on me. Said she needed to earn more money.

[QUOTE=LarryDavid;2126222]In all fairness to Komo, it is possible he pulled a Scandaloo girl all night for 600 reais. Last year, I had a Scandaloo girl spend the night with me several times for below market rates. I was lucky and we had a connection. I paid 650 to get her out of the club at 2 am after we had been together several times. Twice she spent the night for 400 R. One of those nights I took her to a concert. Eventually, she bailed on me. Said she needed to earn more money.[/QUOTE]Of course ANYTHING is possible. That is why I asked him initially if he was a prince charming. In your case, it sounds like you got the girls phone number first, and arranged to meet her outside of her work schedule. That is not an uncommon practice, and yes, some boate girls will lower their rates if you contact them outside the club, there is no disputing that. In fact, I have not sessioned inside Scandalo in years for that very reason. Get numbers, follow up, some work out some don't, that is a good strategy.

But, my critique of Komo's post was that his phrasing suggested that an all night rate of 400-600 was the "old norm" and the 600-1000 an hour that you quoted was some shocking new development. He acted surprised that girls are asking 600-1000 an hour, saying "I was in SP few months ago maybe they changed."

Nothing has changed, girls have been asking 600 and up an hour, and 1000-15000 to leave the club, as their initial offer for all of 2017 and before. That is the standard offer for all but the bottom tier there. If he had replied to your original post, "yeah, they all asked me for 1000 to leave the club but I negotiated and found a few that came down to 400 or 600" then I would not have raised an eyebrow or questioned his post.

My advice to anyone reading this forum contemplating a trip is to not depend too heavily on opinions on destinations expressed here. I have been to both Rio and SP and had a great time in both. Rio has the added advantage of a beach where you can ogle the best scantily clad female bodies on the planet. If that is not your thing then you can visit SP where the mongering, though more expensive, is just as good as far as I am concerned. However, that is just my taste. Mongers wishing to visit just one of these destinations should research extensively before making a decision. On reflection I have decided to add this report to the Rio thread as well.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2125850]You're stuck in Alphaville. You're new to Brazil and you don't speak a word of Portuguese. Generally, three strikes you're screwed (or in this case, not screwed), but the good news you have three weeks to figure it out.

Here's my advice:

Get your ass on WhatsApp. Use Google translator or another translator to communicate on WhatsApp.

Befriend a cool doorman or reception guy who you could tip if you need to speak with a girl on the phone. Perhaps they even know some local talent..[/QUOTE]Hello,

I do thank you for your answer and details.

It is nice to have a good and active forum.

Thanks for your inputs!

[QUOTE=AltoBomGosto;2125867]Best is to hire a Uber and go to some good clinica in Sao Paulo, Clinica Tangara has two english speaking managers, Takuma and Suzan.And a line up of more than 20 garotas.

Adress: Rua Tangara 200 , near parque do Ibirapuera.

Regards,

ABG.[/QUOTE]Thank you for your tips. Will try to check it out!

[QUOTE=Balboa;2126170]Funny post.

Back when you said that Rio was the way better city, you had not yet visited SP.

Now that you've actually been to SP, you say that SP is way better, LOL.

In actuality, neither of them are better or way better, or worse than the other. They're just different.

Just because one's tastes are different, or one has dreams of the past, doesn't make one city particularly better than the other.

They are both fun.[/QUOTE]Your opinion is your opinion, you like both cities, it is good for you, I am not here to judge people on their preference and how they monger. What I most hate is to be called a liar. I prefer Sao Paulo. If it was 10 years ago I would prefer Rio de Janeiro over Sao Paulo but unfortunately, I was still too young at that time. Through hearing about the old good days in Rio de Janeiro, I am sure it was a better city in the past. Yes I know Rio is fun. Some people would say both cities are different, Sao Paulo is better or Rio is better, we all have different preferences.

I made wrong judgments like everybody did in their life because mistakes are human.

[QUOTE=LarryDavid;2126222]In all fairness to Komo, it is possible he pulled a Scandaloo girl all night for 600 reais. Last year, I had a Scandaloo girl spend the night with me several times for below market rates. I was lucky and we had a connection. I paid 650 to get her out of the club at 2 am after we had been together several times. Twice she spent the night for 400 R. One of those nights I took her to a concert. Eventually, she bailed on me. Said she needed to earn more money.[/QUOTE]Everything is possible, as I said I never paid over 600 reais for a girl. Yes the price is more expensive in Scandalo I know that. The same thing happens in Japan in some soaplands in Yoshiwara. Why do I have to fucking pay over 60 000 yen in the same location? When I only pay 30 000 yen. Many newbies get screwed. Language barrier and lack of knowledge of the culture. In Japan the prices are exorbitant and more expensive.

To me, every club is a game even when they are brothels. You just have to know how to deal with girls. There are girls that turned down my offer but there are also girls that said yes. It doesn't depend on the girl's look but it depends on how guys act and if girls get good vibes from guys. I had bad experience like everybody. I don't judge Rovnak because I don't know him I am not here to judge people. If people don't believe me I don't care because it doesn't matter to me.

Again Rovnak, just read all my posts and check the dates before jumping to conclusions. I am sure the thread you are talking about was posted in 2016. I made a judgment on a city I hadn't visited yet. Nowadays who never made a mistake? I am not a liar and not too stupid to confuse the clubs because I know how much I paid. Lying to people on this forum is not beneficial to me. The only time I lie is when I want to fuck a girl. I don't profit from lying to anybody on this forum. Don't call people liars when you don't know them. I am not a scam or liar and I met around 10 members on this forum.

This forum is for sharing your experience and not criticizing people. Keep on finding fault with me is useless.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2126606]Everything is possible, as I said I never paid over 600 reais for a girl. Yes the price is more expensive in Scandalo I know that. The same thing happens in Japan in some soaplands in Yoshiwara. Why do I have to fucking pay over 60 000 yen in the same location? When I only pay 30 000 yen. Many newbies get screwed. Language barrier and lack of knowledge of the culture. In Japan the prices are exorbitant and more expensive.

To me, every club is a game even when they are brothels. You just have to know how to deal with girls. There are girls that turned down my offer but there are also girls that said yes. It doesn't depend on the girl's look but it depends on how guys act and if girls get good vibes from guys. I had bad experience like everybody. I don't judge Rovnak because I don't know him I am not here to judge people. If people don't believe me I don't care because it doesn't matter to me..[/QUOTE]OK Komo. Cheers.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2126602]Your opinion is your opinion... .[/QUOTE]Right on amigo!

Enjoy Japan, hope you make it back to Brazil logo.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2126668]Right on amigo!

Enjoy Japan, hope you make it back to Brazil logo.[/QUOTE]I don't really enjoy Japan, I am just out there for work. I haven't been to saoaplands for a while. I just went there for mongering experience. It is very easy to pick up Japanese regulars as a gaijin but unfortunately I am not into Asians. There are not many white women out there. The only white girl I fuck in Japan at the moment is an American expatriate. I can't wait to move back to Brazil.

I fucking envy you living in Brazil. Hope someday I will have a chance to stay in Brazil for keeps.