FKK Artemis - Berlin

[QUOTE=VaeVictis;1835474]Few advice I can give though:

If she tries to sell you two girl option. Avoid.

She tries to convince you to buy extras. Avoid.

She gets angry because you said no. Avoid.

She is loitering at entrance trying to capture new customers. Avoid.

Two girls going around and offering threesomes. Avoid.

Any girl trying to do any up-sell in the initial conversation (prostata massage gets mentioned or CIM) - avoid.

Any girl going with string of customers where every session lasts under 10 min (and guys' faces are dour when paying the girl) - avoid.
[/QUOTE]Haha, yup, a laundry list of them after you've met enough of them. You run into this type of situation more in certain club over other, and it becomes a bit of routine.

[QUOTE=LuckyLarry;1832491]Do you wear swimming trunks underneath your robe or is it you just swim about nude while in pool?[/QUOTE]I've seen guys wear undies, or towel under. Since robe might loosen, open up or whatever. All individual, how prude you are. Wear swimming trunks if you care, nobody really cares really. People tan in the garden fully nude, community showers, etc. Hey, the girls are nude though, but we wear robes. Why not we all go nude? Haha.

I recall a girl I met at a club that showed up from a saunaclub which is typically lingerie, two pieces. She seemed pretty conscious of herself on her first day at the nude club. Didn't expect that, but understandable.

Vaevictis: Not all girls standing by the entrance does it to catch customers though. So that point of yours could be missinterpreted. The bad ones are only those who grabs your nuts or bumps into you while you try to get in. Basically blocking your path in order to get your attention. Those standing there with their purse does it sometimes just because all the sofas are full.

[QUOTE=Pistons;1835881]Vaevictis: Not all girls standing by the entrance does it to catch customers though. So that point of yours could be missinterpreted. The bad ones are only those who grabs your nuts or bumps into you while you try to get in. Basically blocking your path in order to get your attention. Those standing there with their purse does it sometimes just because all the sofas are full.[/QUOTE]You are referring to the entrance of the bar. I was referring to the entrance to the premises, or to be more precise area where lockers are. This phenomena will be experienced in the morning in Artemis (but applies to other places as well). Of course. Not all girls doing one of the things I listed up are going to be sharks / bad sessions but the list was never meant to be taken as 10 commandments but rather list of signs to be wary about.

[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1835535]I have seen Jenna at the club, and she is one of the older types, or should I call MILF at Artemis. I guess Jenna is proof the taste varies, and stretches like a mutha.

I hope she provide decent to good service as I can't imagine that kinda optiks being premium anywhere. Definately nitch for those into that. Kinda resemble Sylvana at Sharks in a way, although Sylvana's older.

Way too extreme IMPOV. No way I'd take her. And she's an obvious case of fuck no.[/QUOTE]As you say the taste varies. Jenna is actually sought after and has truckload of appointments throughout a working week. Is she less pretty than say Nicole (Cz)? Of course. But the difference is that Jenna plays in different league and makes you realize that 70% ofthe girls in artemis are just newbeginners. While Nicole, despite IMHO being a beauty, is an underpreformer. I picked up Jenna just to try something new and never regretted it. But as you say. Taste cannot be discussed.

[QUOTE=VaeVictis;1835906] Of course. Not all girls doing one of the things I listed up are going to be sharks / bad sessions but the list was never meant to be taken as 10 commandments but rather list of signs to be wary about.[/QUOTE]So if they are not the 10 commandments of FKK'ing, then they are the list of what to wary about in a somewhat on and off way where the rules themselves does not allways apply? This will calm my warying nerves alot, thank you.

(Just pulling your leg here, hehe).

[QUOTE=VaeVictis;1835474]Well, I am no veteran although I am starting to get recognized by girls and staff in Artemis so I basically qualify for stammkunde light category.

What you ask for is a question that is impossible to answer. YMMV applies to every girl. I have had great sessions with girls that people are saying best to avoid. I have had terrible sessions after series of good ones because my fav had bad day.

Basically I found out that service increases tremendously if the girl likes you (as in really likes you. Not pretend-likes-you) or thinks that you will become a regular ( steady income for girl).

Few advice I can give though:

If she tries to sell you two girl option. Avoid.

She tries to convince you to buy extras. Avoid..[/QUOTE]Small advice. If you are interested. Please first invest in a drink (and pay her time) It is always a good way to check.

[QUOTE=Krisspy19;1836758]Small advice. If you are interested. Please first invest in a drink (and pay her time) It is always a good way to check.[/QUOTE]Did I understand this correctly! If that's what you mean then I will have no money left to take anyone to the room. I usually go, this one, no that one, the other one, and if I have to buy a drink and time for each I will have no money left.

[QUOTE=FloridaSun;1836787]Did I understand this correctly! If that's what you mean then I will have no money left to take anyone to the room. I usually go, this one, no that one, the other one, and if I have to buy a drink and time for each I will have no money left.[/QUOTE]The never accept the drink or order it their selves but if you made your choice (of course not every lady that start talking to you) you have the best chance to check. Out of my experience you also get a great after service (if you have been friendly.

[QUOTE=Dutedrac;1794382]Ninja needs to do more homework? There is a significant difference between FRA clubs and Artemis, except Palace which is similar for many aspects (upsell, rudeness of girls, silicon, higher % of non romanian girls). Artemis is a fine big FKK and I always have fun there, but it's definitely more of a struggle to find the right playmates if you have higher service requirements and respect for your money, and in the last 3-5 years the trend has been going downhill, most experienced mongers (forum members or not) who do both FRA and Artemis will agree on this. This without mentioning Artemis is more expensive with entrance 10-20% more and basic girl rates 20% higher.

Berlin badly needs FKK competition.[/QUOTE]I agree it needs competition, I thought Berlin was a liberal tolerant city, so wonder if true that city has blocked a new club, a new club to compete with Artemis could only be a good thing for us.

[QUOTE=Jerboa;1837340]I agree it needs competition, I thought Berlin was a liberal tolerant city, so wonder if true that city has blocked a new club, a new club to compete with Artemis could only be a good thing for us.[/QUOTE]The people living in Berlin are liberal and tolerant. Not the people running the city.

And a large percentage of the "liberal" people in the city don't go to a brothel, as they can just have lots of sex for free. In the bohemian lifestyle they practice.

I have been on a punting free break for a few months but returned to Artemis last Monday evening where among my all time favorites still working are Ella from St Petersburg and Rosie from Greece (though some say Bulgaria). First a general remark, I agree with comments on the board about the standards overall of the girls. Increasing numbers of just not attractive girls and some of them with very aggressive attitudes as well if you say no to their advances. Also I see what others on this board mean about 'gangs'. Ella was not there but Rosie was and so off for a one hour session. Rosie has average looks but she is mega friendly and a top flight performer. See reacts very well to DATY and this time she sucked me off to completion in her mouth with no hands on my cock! I have also been on the hunt for some time for a top flight performer from Asia. After a recovery period following my session with Rosie I spotted a very pretty half Asian girl with a towel wrapped round her. This should have been a warning sign -- I struck up conversation in the top bar and went off to a room where the towel finally came off! However, she positioned herself to avoid any contact from my hands and proceeded with a weak blow job and hand finish. Complete waste of time but fortunately only the minimum half hour damage money wise. Also present was a tall and quite striking Asian girl but she was always wearing a white top that gave only a fleeting glance of her tits!

All in all you can still have top class service in Artemis but you need either very good luck with a new pick for you or hope that a known to you top class performer for you is there. Working during your visit.

Thanks to the reports here, I have removed Artemis from my must do FKKs on my trips to Europe. That saves me a lot of trouble. Although I will miss visiting Berlin.

Artemis is the only FKK I have ever been to. There are a fair number of pushy girls. But it seems that by being a little discriminating on the women and being patient in waiting for one that feels right you should be able to get mainly what you want. It does seem that there are more tattoos and tans and fake boobs here than in other FKKs (from looking at lineup online) but there are a good number of natural looking girl next door types here too. It is a big place and has a lot of variety to offer. I am considering sharks because I prefer the latter. But Artemis is a huge place and has something to offer anyone I think. Choosing which FKK is a difficult task. I chose Artemis partially for what I read and saw online and partially because I wanted to visit Berlin. Which FKK's have you been to?

[QUOTE=Katinka;1838081]Thanks to the reports here, I have removed Artemis from my must do FKKs on my trips to Europe. That saves me a lot of trouble. Although I will miss visiting Berlin.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DavidFuk;1837904]I have been on a punting free break for a few months but returned to Artemis last Monday evening where among my all time favorites still working are Ella from St Petersburg and Rosie from Greece (though some say Bulgaria). First a general remark, I agree with comments on the board about the standards overall of the girls. Increasing numbers of just not attractive girls and some of them with very aggressive attitudes as well if you say no to their advances. Also I see what others on this board mean about 'gangs'. Ella was not there but Rosie was and so off for a one hour session. Rosie has average looks but she is mega friendly and a top flight performer. See reacts very well to DATY and this time she sucked me off to completion in her mouth with no hands on my cock! I have also been on the hunt for some time for a top flight performer from Asia. After a recovery period following my session with Rosie I spotted a very pretty half Asian girl with a towel wrapped round her. This should have been a warning sign -- I struck up conversation in the top bar and went off to a room where the towel finally came off! However, she positioned herself to avoid any contact from my hands and proceeded with a weak blow job and hand finish. Complete waste of time but fortunately only the minimum half hour damage money wise. Also present was a tall and quite striking Asian girl but she was always wearing a white top that gave only a fleeting glance of her tits!

All in all you can still have top class service in Artemis but you need either very good luck with a new pick for you or hope that a known to you top class performer for you is there. Working during your visit.[/QUOTE]Is this half Asian girl- half Vietnamese and Half German born in Germany? She is pretty, no tattoo and no silicone tits?