Kyiv

[QUOTE=CanadianBoy; 1190720]'Going home alone? ' she asked.

'Yes, I am tired and too drunk for a girl tonight'

'You don't want company, handsome? '

'Not tonight, Olga'

'OK'

Have a good night, Olga'

'You too, honey' she smiled kindly.[/QUOTE]Damn. I thought it would end with Olga in your bed for a freebie along with the non pro who turned out to be her lesbian gf. I love a happy ending.

In all seriousness-enjoyed your stories. Good writing.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1190723]Damn. I thought it would end with Olga in your bed for a freebie along with the non pro who turned out to be her lesbian gf. I love a happy ending.

In all seriousness-enjoyed your stories. Good writing.

AM[/QUOTE]Thanks Angus, I enjoy writing them especially since they are 100-percent true. You know, that would have been a dream ending, for sure!

As NYC endures being fucked over by Hurricane Irene this weekend, I can't help but look forward to getting to Kiev next weekend for some good weather__LOL__and to multiple fuckings of Irina, the blonde hot-ass sexpot I had the pleasure of meeting during my last Kiev visit. LOL.

LJ

"Oh, by the way, lovely man! Those who offer no strings attached relationship, I suggest you buy me a car without obligation"

This, from the profile of a Kiev girl on Mamba looking love and marriage, made me smile. Made me think a little as well.

everybody who has been at river palace has great memories of it. it's one of those place you never forget: night flight in moscow, help in rio and so on.

the place where i have the best memories was in the beginning of '90s the bars (a disco bar and the panthera bar) at the third floor of hotel intourist in moscow stayed there a lot and did, by all the others, a wonderful couple of sisters (18 and 20) , always almost 100 girls on duty of all possible types, standard rate at that time 100 bucks!

rp is one of the milestones of sex for mongers, and surely one of the places where you could see the most beautiful girls of earth (if you like the blonde, tall, skinny style.) like some bars in moscow or kiev. or any street in summer in the fsu.

once i remember i took there a friend, never been to eastern europe, or fsu. we were sitting at the bar (i told him to do so you could take a look to the girls before eventually choosing one).

he was asking is it a meeting bar? i started laughing and answered no it's just like a cash and carry. i was already in kiev since some days and thought to give him a tour of the city. independence square, the girls on k. street while drinking a beer, a dinner in podol, and a drink at river palace.

he was sitting there like a boy in front of the window of a toy store. it was in 2006 and at that time the level of girls was unbelievable. i love petite skinny ones, but i remember well i was looking at a tall (at least 180) pale white skinned black haired, blue eyed girl who was just smiling at me (i think she had at least 12 cm heels.) the evening before and the morning i had just pumped the mt (mystery tramp) and before leaving she gave me one of those unforgettable bbbj. despite that after 10 seconds of looking at the tall brunetka (hardly 20 whyear old) my best friend was as a rock. did her the day after. came out she was 18, taller than me. 55 kg or so and ultra skinny ultra leggy body type: fucking like a rabbit, she was from a village far from kiev. unfortunately as most girls from rp she was totally allergic to photos. my friend / collegue took her wing girl. a wonderful petite blondinka (i still remember her, because when we exchanged them, we had agreed on that, my friend told me she had nice anal attitudes and. of course it get crazy when talking about anal!) , just 20, petite and skinny. i must say that beauties were mostly at rp, but real sex animals were mostly in other places. agencies, bars, mamba, and so on. as far as i know the only kiev sex legend standing sometimes in river palace was mystery tramp, surely not the most beautiful one but.

getting back for a moment the first evening he was obviously willing to take home some, but i had already arranged a meeting with [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url] (for me, she was leaving and i did not want to lose her spectacular bbbj / hj / cim / cof i really enjoyed two days before) and with a tall blonde: wonderful just filled 19 (for my friend). but told nothing to him. just told that we had to go home because we would have guests at 11 pm.

he was amazed (as me) by the blondinka found by [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url], with shoes she was surely more than 20 cm taller than him. as most of the gals at rp. i simply kissed [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url] and got in my bedroom and told him have a nice night!

it.

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[QUOTE=Bbilly; 1187948]Ok so I usually don't post much but here's my take on Kiev. First I'm at lybid hotel 70 buck, run down a bit girl friendly before 9pm. I went to dlux, (very posch) caribian club (small nice for dancing) buddha bar, (nicer than even dlux) vodka bar (non-pros, young crowd, loud music bar, good) and finally SHOOTERS, which I haven't seen reported yet on the forum.

So shooters is for a well dressed young to old crowd, the old being men with money. A tough face control at the door, my arabic "friends" (I'm white) got shut out twice in a a row and I almost did, and I saw others get the negative too. I just didn't bring a sport coat or dress shoes on this trip. Shooters was nice, crowded and had hot women all 7-10 non and semi pros, probably pros too but its not a structured pro place at all.

ANyway here's the meat of the story. I meet a 9 that looks like jennifer conelly when she was 19 (old actress) and begin the process. She likes me and says she wants a virgin mojito, ok no biggie after 5 min but I buy it, then after 15 min she says lets go upstairs for sushi, I think ok she may be trying to get over on me but I also think this is the way it is here and there is no way around it.

We sit and eat and she orders two more virgin drinks along with a sushi plate and it was a total of 300 grivna which was exactly what I had left in the wallet (it was my 4rth place that night) and they don't take amex so. Whew.

And now the fun begins, I was playing it as a non-pro freebee- she said she studies law so I say do you work also, she says no and I say so how do you pay for school and living, thinking I'd get a sad story and then I could say "oh maybe I could help you with that," but instead she becomes offended and says she doesn't like the question. She begins to text her friend and than says"I want to smoke" So thinking I blew it I start damage control with out being to weak looking saying, hey its a fair question and I'm just trying to get to know you" Mind you she hasnt let on to being a prosti yet but I'm getting to think she is by the attitude and other small details.

Long story short, she offered no signs of actually liking me aside from sitting with me and I really just wanted to say,"ok lets cut the shit, you want 600 grivnha or what?" but I didn't have any obvious clue that I should break character. I had told her my job and that I wanted to spend my last day in Kiev with her tomorrow and all she kept saying was "maybe I'm very busy tomorrow" So I'm thinking WTF and she keeps saying she wants to go to the maldives with me? But not lunch? So finally I see the waitress drop off a pack of cigs, I have no money and I tell her she has to pay for that and then the beast comes out,"oh you don't have any money? This is too much for you hahaha, I call my friend then, I like ukranian guy he pay all, hahah I don't like you, you ask question I don't like and you don't pay my things." I remind her I paid 400 already on her and that she should say thank you and not insult me and that maybe in her country its all cash but in america we use credit cards and its not my fault they don't accept it in this place, Also that she never asked if I would buy cigs for her. So we get in a mini battle about manners, and she insists my card was "out of money hahaha" and that I don't have much money, I say I could buy a car with that card and instead of shutting up she gets into"what type of car?" and seriously wants me to name drop cars I "could" buy. I keep it real and say oh who cares, maybe a toyota, she thinks this is ok and says "oh that is a good car" I laugh inside thinking. So in ukraine you must just have to brag and brag, spend 100 bucks up front on drinks and dinner, then if you blow enough smoke up their asses you can F them for free?

I say,"ok I'm going to go get my friend and borrow 30 grivnha so I can pay your smokes but I'm not happy with you or how you talk, you are very "bad educated" I come back 5 min later and magically she is gone and the bill was paid. I see her downstairs and she is already talking with some arabic guy of all people (how did he get in?) iI interrupt and send him on his way and say "oh I went back and didn't see you" she looked at me for a long 5 seconds. Grabbed her purse and went off in the direction of said oil sheek.

Side note, the night before two 9's came up to me all smiley and wanting to know where I was from, I am young looking (26 by all who meet me) but really nearer to 40, blond blue eyes in shape, so I get alot of looks here, they can tell I'm foreign. So these two 9's ask for drinks after 5 min and when I say ok and turn to buy them, hey are off talking to others and then slowly drift away as I wait for their drinks. Drinks arrive, they are out of sight. Again WTF?

Another girl, a 9 easy, I approached by tapping her shoulder since the music was extremely loud, she says" I don't like when men touch me" I say oh so you must not have a boyfriend then either, she actually smiled at that but then went back to * mode and said, I don't want to talk to you" I tried once more to no avail. This was the second time that happened to me, I barely tap a girl on the outer shoulder and BOOM, its over.

SO wrap up, I pick 9's only, true 9's not made up 28 year olds who have had kids, but young hot white w nice skin, and thin and I'm a guy whos lived in brasil for a year and know what a true hotty looks like. So maybe its the level but so far I really don't get it here. Granted I had only two nights but It seems the girls here are very cutthroat and basically stupid. Can't any guy just say hes rich? I'm not against buying a drink even though I would never do this in the US, I know its a different culture but why ask for a drink and bail? Why get so bent if you are a semi pro when I ask about your work and don't buy 3 dollar cigarettes after 60 dollars in food and drink?

Is this just a bad start or am I playing the game wrong? I thought the soft sell was best. I never walk up and go "hey you, you want to F me? I pay you X amount"

Comments[/QUOTE]Pretty funny but I am 90 percent sure that I met you at the sushi bar before going down into the club of shooters.

So I have checked this site out a few times when going to different places and just took info, but never given back so I will break down Kiev in my eyes.

Like I said in my previous post. So you know my background and where I am coming from. I am a 30 year old guy from Miami Beach. I a good looking guy, in shape and pretty much can pull hot chicks wherever.

I went to Kiev for the first time a few weeks ago and stayed for 6 nights. The first night I was there I went out to the best club Dantes and pulled a legitimate 9 (and when I say nines I am talking about a REAL 9 on South Beach terms). She was 22, black hair, lightest green eyes possible, insane body, getting her PHD, spoke 5 languages and was visiting Kiev from Harkiev or whatever its called (nearby city). It was like being out at any club in Miami or anywhere else in states and picking up a chick Difference was she would have been really really really hard to pull in states (equivalent of how I would pull a 7-8). Had to talk a lot of game, get drinks and bond with her and took her home first night. We hung out the next two nights and took her to train station when she went home. NO money, no talk of money, not a pro, asked for nothing and still talk to her on messenger and wants to come visit and will pay for her own ticket.

I went the day she left to a place called Rakuena which was recommended to me off of here as the best massage place in Kiev. Place was definitely very clean but a total shit show as far as organization. I was waiting for 30 minutes while they were scurrying all over the place getting it together, maybe they were just busy. I went with the Rakuena massage which I thought was 3 chicks massaging you, it was 140 dollars. 3 girls I would say ranged between 7. 5-8. 25. One showers you and jerks you then the other two massage you and jerk again. Overall was OK- really business like and pretty bad attitudes. Like I said, could have just been a bad day but who knows. Would prob give it a second chance. Passed out early that night.

Next day went to Rio with friend I met there who is also American. Also was recommended that place from here that you could take down a 9-10. This was one of main things I wanted to do in Kiev was get a 10 model type of girl. In my opinion girls were from 6-8. 5 at best. Place was set up like shit. Really narrow, no where to sit, couldn't get a table even if there was no one sitting there. Me and guy I was with called over a few of the really hot ones, chatted them up and were like how does it work (everyone here said 300 and take home).3 of them literally weren't interested in talking or going home. This was crazy to me because we are both clean cut, attractive, dressed nice and clearly had cash. He left and I stayed and went downstairs, which is def best place to be in that place. I made full on eye contact with a really cute chick 7. 75 and she came over. She was 19, spoke pretty good English, really good personality and told me she saw me before and was into it. I asked her if she wanted to take off (not thrilled cause thought I would be taking home a 9-10 based off of here) and she like I have never done that before. She had only been working there one month. I literally had to talk her into it for 10-15 minutes and finally she said OK. Turned out actually to be good cause I really believe she hadn't done before so it was total GFE all the way. We went back to my apartment had amazing sex for few hours, she slept over and in the morning her phone was blowing up and it was her Mom calling her worried so she had to go (got to admit that was pretty hilarious). Overall disappointed with Rio.

Next night Shooters where I met Billy (I think same guy). Def a strict face control like he said, I saw 4 Pakistani looking guys get turned away before me. Went and ate sushi met Billy and we went down to club. In my opinion the girls weren't 7-10's they were more like 5's-maybe one 9. I went up to the only 9 in the place and started talking to her. She was 5 foot 9 or so, blond, and beautiful. She was actually really nice, said she was a model but spoke really minimal English so was tough to carry on convo for long. Then we tried hitting on a few other girls and they were kind of bitchy. Then Billy met that chick and her friend who we got mojito's for. He took her upstairs, I talked to a few other girls got approached by some busted hookers and with not much success took off.

Now here is my overall take on Kiev- DO NOT go in August, every Dbag from all over is on vacation there. All the young college girls are on vacation in Odessa and other beach town. The limited girls who are there are getting bombarded by tourist and are on serious guard. I would give RIO and SHOOTERS another shot because of this factor.

The girls are the hottest I have ever seen anywhere. Totally insane, walking on the streets you see 8-10s all over the place. If you are the type of guy that can go up to girls in the street and pull it is a gold mine.

Someone else replied to Billy's post saying the way you have to be with Slavic girls and I totally agree. That is all I date in Miami so I have learned there game. You have to be very dominant- the most important thing is that they all will test you right away when you start talking to them and will be a *****. You have to come right over the top of them and show that you are not intimidated by them. They like guys that are unpredictable and send their emotions all over the place. Once you get them though they are the best. Feminine, smart, crazy, fun, amazing in bed and love sex.

This is the real unbiased deal on KIEV

POS1043,

Thanks for your take on Kiev.

Let me just get this straight. You only go after Slavic girls in Miami Beach? I didn't know that there was such a sizable Slavic population in Miami Beach.

I prefer Scandinavians to Slavics, but since the former aren't necessarily available to me, I go after the latter. But now I'm planning a trip to Norway and Sweden before coming over to Ukraine next summer or fall. Smiley.

[QUOTE=POS1043;1191748]. so it was total GFE all the way. We went back to my apartment had amazing sex for few hours, she slept over and in the morning her phone was blowing up and it was her Mom calling her worried so she had to go (got to admit that was pretty hilarious). Overall disappointed with Rio.[/QUOTE]Thanks for a nice and in my opinion balanced report after first visit, except I cannot quite understand disappointment with Rio-girls. I have been there several times and reported, and maybe I and others gave this impression the girls were all near-perfect. Which they are not, and besides, de gustibus non est disputantum, you can always argue about taste. It is up to individual girls if they go home with someone (I think some of them never do this) , but the price is not in their power: I have had to give the money to the manager and then meet the girl after she dressed. Always fantastic experience (and otherwise I have no interest in the place whatsoever!).

Mamba. Ru problem:

There is definitely a problem that continues with loading the mamba. Ru website, as a poster reported earlier, which causes the browser to crash and close and then automatically attempt to reload the page. After a few times it will cease to reload and display the message that page could not be loaded. However, the problem relates to use of Internet Explorer web browser, which is the most commonly used browser and therefore the one most attacked by internet threats. The solution is to download and use another browser. I have used the Google Chrome browser, which is similar in its functioning to Internet Explorer, without having the same problem occur on mamba. Ru. Also Mozilla Firefox browser works ok.

Rio 8 to 10 level girls:

I was surprised to read POS1043's report that he saw no high level hotties at Rio during his August visit. I am also a very particular and demanding guy when it comes to a girl's looks, so I don't think it's because POS1043 has an even higher South Beach standard. I posted in my very first post the links to two girls listed on londonescortguide. Com to illustrate what I considered to be a 9 or 10 in order to aid my effort to communicate with the guys on this board. I don't think there could be much argument that those two girls are at least 9's or 10's. I have stated clearly in my prior posts, in an effort to preserve accuracy, that cerainly not ALL the girls at Rio are 8 to 10's, and there are many who are average looking to above average looking there as well. I also reported that it takes time to view the line ups in each bar until one can spot the smaller percentage of gems that I have always seen at Rio on All my prior visits there. Is POS1043's report that there were NO girls at Rio on a level of 8 to 10 another example of an exaggeration in one direction, or are his observations the product of not looking long enough? I don't know. But it is also possible, as he too suggests, that August is a vacation time, and many regular hotties at Rio may have been away. It does not stand to reason that the Rio line up, where efforts are made to find hot girls to work there, should represent a cross -- section of Kiev girls that is much LESS dense with hotties, than what even POS1043 writes he saw all over the streets of Kiev, given that the Rio girls line up is drawn from the same population. Anyway, I will be there this weekend to make my own observations, as will two other members of this board that I know about. I will dutifully report if there is a problem with the line up that is persisting.

LJ

Good summing up by POS1043 of Kiev in summer.

Best plan is to head to Odessa and hook up with girls NOT from Odessa.

Plenty of holidaymakers and easier to connect with. If staying more than a few days, invite someone to Odessa to stay with you. Alternativly, search a few who are on their last days and runing out of money. They would rather stay longer than head home.

[QUOTE=Liljoey; 1192011]Mamba. Ru problem:

There is definitely a problem that continues with loading the mamba. Ru website, as a poster reported earlier, which causes the browser to crash and close and then automatically attempt to reload the page. After a few times it will cease to reload and display the message that page could not be loaded. However, the problem relates to use of Internet Explorer web browser, which is the most commonly used browser and therefore the one most attacked by internet threats. The solution is to download and use another browser. I have used the Google Chrome browser, which is similar in its functioning to Internet Explorer, without having the same problem occur on mamba. Ru. Also Mozilla Firefox browser works ok.

Rio 8 to 10 level girls:

I was surprised to read POS1043's report that he saw no high level hotties at Rio during his August visit. I am also a very particular and demanding guy when it comes to a girl's looks, so I don't think it's because POS1043 has an even higher South Beach standard. I posted in my very first post the links to two girls listed on londonescortguide. Com to illustrate what I considered to be a 9 or 10 in order to aid my effort to communicate with the guys on this board. I don't think there could be much argument that those two girls are at least 9's or 10's. I have stated clearly in my prior posts, in an effort to preserve accuracy, that cerainly not ALL the girls at Rio are 8 to 10's, and there are many who are average looking to above average looking there as well. I also reported that it takes time to view the line ups in each bar until one can spot the smaller percentage of gems that I have always seen at Rio on All my prior visits there. Is POS1043's report that there were NO girls at Rio on a level of 8 to 10 another example of an exaggeration in one direction, or are his observations the product of not looking long enough? I don't know. But it is also possible, as he too suggests, that August is a vacation time, and many regular hotties at Rio may have been away. It does not stand to reason that the Rio line up, where efforts are made to find hot girls to work there, should represent a cross. Section of Kiev girls that is much LESS dense with hotties, than what even POS1043 writes he saw all over the streets of Kiev, given that the Rio girls line up is drawn from the same population. Anyway, I will be there this weekend to make my own observations, as will two other members of this board that I know about. I will dutifully report if there is a problem with the line up that is persisting.

LJ[/QUOTE]Hello, YES I can confirm I have this problem and thanks for the recomendations. I also wonder how are the risks (virus etc) of using this site due to these attacks. Maybe we have to use CONDOMS too by surfing in internet in sites like this and our antivirus protections are not enough

[QUOTE=Sponsor74;1192032]Hello, YES I can confirm I have this problem and thanks for the recomendations. I also wonder how are the risks (virus etc) of using this site due to these attacks. Maybe we have to use CONDOMS too by surfing in internet in sites like this and our antivirus protections are not enough[/QUOTE]Mamba is in fact a website designated as unsafe by Internet Security applications such as Trend Micro's antivirus application, and one needs to specifically overide the block and manually put in mamba as an "allowed" site. My computer guy recommended using Mozilla Firefox saying it has more protections from viruses or malware. I suppose the Google Chrome browser which Google says is protected and safer, might be safer than using Internet Explorer, but satisfy yourself by asking someone knowledgeable in computers about your security needs.

LJ

In response to the few posts after mine concerning the Rio.

Like I did say, I would give it a second chance and do believe that the month being August had a lot to do with it. I think that it is probably the worst month as far

As foreigners coming and girls leaving.

On the other hand the place itself and the set up in my opinion was a 6. Very narrow and way more guys there than girls working. There wasn't really any girls

Under a 6 but definitely none over an 8. 5. Yes my standard is very high for being from Miami but if I am going to pay I want cream of the crop. Overall just wasn't impressed with the place but after seeing the girls on the street think it probably has a lot of potential other times of the years for hotties, still the place is set up

Like shit. If you have ever been to a Therma (Senturos) in Brazil and to this place you will understand what I mean about a good set up and way more chicks than

Guys. Although I will say Slavic girls are way hotter to me.

As far as my opinion of time of year like Irish Lad said if you are going to go not just to Kiev but any major city in Europe it is best not to go in July or August. Those are the months to hit the coastal cities and hook up with girls on vaca.

I was just really excited to hook up with a 9-10 (IMO which is a girl equivalent to a Victoria Secrets model) and there def was nothing close to that.

[QUOTE=POS1043;1192149]I was just really excited to hook up with a 9-10 (IMO which is a girl equivalent to a Victoria Secrets model) and there def was nothing close to that.[/QUOTE]Definitely agree with your rating system. Best dievs I've ever had were 8, 5/9 or so and those girls were absolutely world-class Bond-girl types (or V Secret models as you say). I rate VERY few girls above 8, 5, even among those that I see on magazine covers. And have no 10s. Maybe Aphrodite could be rated a 10, but unfortunatly I've never been (yet) on Olympus Mons to check.

Vote for a Miss Universe Semifinalist:

As I'm a sucker for blue-eyed brunettes and love the country, I'd vote Georgia, and give her a solid 9.

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