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[QUOTE=Docwiltro;3032384]How about a report on the Blue Parrot Bar at the corner of Burgos and Kalayaan? There were some above average girls in there last year; plus, they do have a pool table.[/QUOTE]Ask, and ye shall receive.

I was able to send ISG's board-friendly little birdie in on a recent evening to Blue Parrot. 13 girls total. Three hotties and 3 other attractive, for 6 do-able, leaving 7 older (late 20 / early 30's) almost acceptable MILFS. One other customer having a LD with a girl. Dancing girls were listless. Birdie was sitting alone, and a mama brought over two of the non-do-able MILF's for Birdie to peruse, which he declined (he carries more feathers than pesos, so he's picky). Birdie wondered why the mama's do that sometimes, bring over mid-range girls to push for a drink, and not a hottie. Finally Birdie called over a more attractive muse for a LD. Birdie's mixed drink + LD was about p800. Birdie says an older customer walked in and sauntered at the pool table, then sauntered out. Birdie's overall impression after 40 minutes in the bar on the weekend at 10:30 pm, with only 2 customers bothering to stop by, is that the place is relatively dull. I think I got the same impression last year at this bar when I visited. Me and birdie, great minds think alike. Doc did considerably better.

Birdie might have effed up; he did not get the barfine amount.

[QUOTE=Mklieu;3032383]Thanks for the info. I'll take a walk down P Burgos and have a look.

BTW how pervy so the gogo girls get in the bars? Like just light touching?[/QUOTE]Obviously depends the girl, but any of these might happen: She shoves your hand inside her bra or bikini top, she plays with your Junior outside your pants, and if under the table she might later venture her hand down your thigh to the open leg of your shorts, and work it up inside (shorts are better than long pants). You put a hand on her thigh and work it up to her cooch, and she might pull the panty aside so you can get a feel of the clitty and such.

OR YOU GET NOTHING.

If she's cold to it, toss that fish back in the pond, and buy a different girl a drink. Had good success recently at Nautica and Marquee (regardless of whatever else was boring inside the bar).

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3032784]Obviously depends the girl, but any of these might happen: She shoves your hand inside her bra or bikini top, she plays with your Junior outside your pants, and if under the table she might later venture her hand down your thigh to the open leg of your shorts, and work it up inside (shorts are better than long pants). You put a hand on her thigh and work it up to her cooch, and she might pull the panty aside so you can get a feel of the clitty and such.

OR YOU GET NOTHING.

If she's cold to it, toss that fish back in the pond, and buy a different girl a drink. Had good success recently at Nautica and Marquee (regardless of whatever else was boring inside the bar).[/QUOTE]I agree with Westie as always. I would say this is one of the best parts of PH that I am attracted to. Places like Marquee are very loud and slightly on the expensive side. Mamasans like "E" push a bit. I prefer smaller places like Nautica or dimple. If you find the right girl (s), you can have fun. I recently landed up going multiple times to little finger at the corner above blue parrot. Liked a couple of girls there. They were totally in. Bar wasn't crowded. I got whatever I wanted including a shakedown of my junior. One of the girls who I got her drunk mentioned that she was horny and shoved her cooch on my face. Oh the PH! If you find the right girl (and the bar), there are simple tricks. Go after 1 AM. Be in the bar with the girl until 4 AM. Head to your hotel. The girl will find her way to your room. Have fun, sleep, catchup breakfast or lunch or brunch. Its fun out there in Makati. I miss this. Have to find a holiday to slip out again.

What is the FR on Champagne? I was there on Sep 26th. Seems like a number of hot girls out there. I could recognize some girls who post quite a bit on FB or TikTok out there. I know a pushy waitress and had to leave soon. Their barfine was 3900. I didn't spend much time there.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3032468]I was suggesting $100 (5 K)/ day for the girl only, that's kind of standard, if you find one willing to boink you all day for that money, because that's what's going to happen. It's self understanding that you'll pay the travel expenses also, food lodging, transportation. Especially on short notice, there are not many options available. I did it few times at that rate with AC bar girls, when I was under time constrains. When I had plenty of time, I found willing participants for 2 k / day or if it was long term 20 k / month, after that I wised up and had GFs as traveling companions, free of charge, some relations lasted few weeks, some few months, the last one 3 years, and going. Long term involves more than looks, you're basically just like a regular couple, past the facade that everyone shows to the world, starting to feel the real intimacy, and sometimes doesn't work.

Few years back I met this girl with a good job, corporate salesman at a plastic factory in Manila, she fell in love with me, moved in, than a week later when I decided that was that time again to travel around, she quit her job and came with me, after a week in Cebu, I couldn't stand her anymore, despite her good looks, something wasn't clicking anymore, so I made up some emergency excuse, and she went to her mom in Mindanao to wait there for my return from USA. Of course I didn't answer her thousand messages after my "departure" thinking that maybe she believes that I died or something like that. Even now after many years I feel sort of embarrassed, and ashamed for my exit because she left her good job for me.[/QUOTE]Well, this could have been you today.

First off apologies since I lost all my notes and this is all off of my very poor memory. Review is of the week starting Sunday October 5. I visited Burgos on Sunday Tuesday Thursday and Saturday. Went into food comas on the off nights from eating way too much at the ton of buffets around BGC.

Sunday. Night 1 club 1 - Kojax Plan B. I went here cause it was recommended to me and it was the name I remembered the most as I walked up Burgos for the first time. I knew Sunday was going to be slow so wasn't expecting much. When I walked in I was surprised that it was better than I expected. There were 15-20 girls total and I saw 2 that I liked. All the girls sit on stage and in seats at the front of the stage. Zero dancing or activity so club atmosphere is almost non existent. As soon as I got my drink (I forgot all drink prices but I do recall that Kojax was the most expensive of all the bars for my drink. Almost double IIRC), I was attacked by 6 girls. 1 was ok the rest I had no interest in. They all seemed friendly but since it was bar 1 and I saw who I wanted on stage I said no. No does not mean no on Burgos as 2 of them didn't leave me. Sadly by the time they left the girl I wanted had been called down for drinks by one of the 3 other guys in the bar. I thought no big deal this my first bar on Burgos so all others must be like this every night. I was so wrong! Little did I know that this Sunday night was the best lineup I saw at Kojax and I never saw the girl I wanted again on my 3 subsequent visits that week. On each of those visits there were only around 10 girls all of whom were there on Sunday.

I went to Neon Nights next I think. Saw 3 not so great girls dancing on stage. This seemed more like a gogo bar than Kojax so I decided to get a drink. I regretted my decision once I ordered cause when I looked around there couldn't have been more than 10 girls none even close to appealing to me. I didn't stay long. I vowed not to return and didn't. Did I miss something or is this place as bad as I saw? The odd thing about Neon Nights is I noticed almost every other customer was Indian. There were 3 separate groups of 3-4 Indian men at the back part of the bar. No girls with them.

Below I'm just going to list clubs I remember visiting during the week. Can't recall which day (s).

Dimples. I walk in and out. It's the only bar I entered and didn't buy a drink at. No customers (this was Tues or Thu). I saw about 6 females in there but not sure how many were waitresses and how many were bar girls. I really should have got a drink and this week for me was more to check out what was good and what was bad. edit - this may have been Croc Rock. But I did do Dimples and Crock Rock and didn't stay at either.

Fyre (Tue or Thur). Ok this place was half decent. At least there were more girls than every other bar than one. Girls dance on stage. I was attacked by a line of 5 or 6 girls. None too appealing but I still picked one to have a drink with me. She had a decent face but once she sat down I knew she was too big for me. I don't mind girls who are not skinny if they have a very cute face but this one was even over my limits. The 2 girls I wanted were busy. One petite one I would consider my type. I sat around for 30 minutes waiting before I moved on. I never made it back to Fyre as you will read below.

Bottoms. I'm going to try to be respectful here for any fans of this bar but never again will I set foot in here. There were some really old and obese women here. One looked like the trans singer Divine from the 80's. As I walked in I smiled at one "girl" and she followed me to my seat. When she sat down I noticed she was 40+. I never bought her a LD even though she sat with me for a while. Looking back I should have. She was a nice "girl". I did tip her 100 PHP for her time and she was very happy. Another club I will not return to.

Iron Horse. One of the more fun bars on Burgos. First visit was Sunday. Sunday was the best day at Iron Horse. I believe Sunday Oct 5 was a National holiday so that may explain why Sunday was better than some of the other days I went to bars. Maybe 25 girls. One whale on the other side of the bar monopolized all the girls except 3 stragglers. The 3 stragglers came up to me. One of them was imo the best girl in the bar by far. I asked the 3 girls why they weren't with the others and the whale. The one I liked said they are new to the bar. I bought my girl 3 or 4 LD in total and she followed my 3 LD per hour rule. One thing I enjoyed about Burgos bars is that even though waitresses and mamas ask you to buy another drink if you say no they don't push you again. Big difference between Burgos and Pattaya bars in that regard. My girl said she was 23. I thought she looked younger. Very petite and thin. Big problem for me was she was flat as a board. However, she was very playful, hands on, a fantastic lap dancer, and great DFK. Because of my GF issues at my BGC condo I didn't BF her my first night. She was pushing me hard to BF her. She would have been fun. I did return on subsequent visits to Burgos. By Thursday mama said she was sick but was still coming in. I'm not sure if sick meant with the flu but that was not a chance I was taking.

There are other bars I visited I just can't recall them off the top of my head right now but I saved the best for last.

Lips - 1st night Sunday. I think it was late by the time I arrived so not too many girls remaining. I revisited on Tuesday Thursday and Saturday and this was far and away my main bar. One thing I have to commend Lips on is the mamas and wait staff. They really go out of the way to make you feel welcome. Mamas especially when they know you are not a Cheap Charlie. I liked Lips cause every half hour or so any girl who did not have a customer and a drink had to go on stage. That was when you saw all the available girls and they were called outcasts. Girls would come sit with you just to pretend they were with you. I never got to talk to the girl I really wanted. Thin light brown hair most distinguishable feature is a large tatt on her upper thigh with face cards. My companions here were 2 girls who were best friends. Both very doable. Again not as thin as some of you may like but imo cute faces. I bought them a lot of drinks to the point I stopped cause they were getting faced. Too faced to be any fun in a room. IIRC LD were 420 for small drink and 800 for San Miguel. They passed my 3 drinks per hour rule with flying colors. In fact, I don't think at any point in time they ever asked me for a drink. I initiated all drink orders. They were just having fun. They told me there were 100 girls in the bar on Thursday and Friday and 60 on Saturday. My guess was max 60 on the floor at any given time. I had a lot of fun with these 2. I can't wait to return and see them after Thailand and Jakarta. Unless Westie or someone else can direct me to another club it's basically Lips or bust for me. The only bar on Burgos I visited that I would remotely compare to a Pattaya gogo bar.

One thing I noticed about other customers at Burgos bars is there is ZERO action and guys seem happy with that. I was shocked it was the Farang who sat there. The Koreans I saw at least tried stuff. I saw a pretty handsum Korean in his 30's try to DFK his girl in Kojax and all he got was a peck on the lips. Needless to say he bolted after 1 drink. Other than myself I didn't see any fun being had. Of course the fun may have been very discrete and I didn't notice it.

Sorry this is all I have from my bad memory. If not for my 2 girls at Lips I'd really consider heading to AC just to check it out but I've been forewarned that if I didn't find Burgos girls hot I definitely won't find AC girls hot.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;3032929]Sorry this is all I have from my bad memory. If not for my 2 girls at Lips I'd really consider heading to AC just to check it out but I've been forewarned that if I didn't find Burgos girls hot I definitely won't find AC girls hot.[/QUOTE]Solid report considering you lost your notes. Sad to say, the quality of gogo girls in all places has suffered over the years / decades. In fact, the 'Jollibee effect' has been gradually increasing weight across the country since I have been going there, and gogos now must sadly hire more chubs to fill out the roster.

Also, all fellas have been forewarned (and thus forearmed) by us that Thai gogo girls are superior in looks. The six-of-one, half-dozen-of-the-other tradeoff seems to be language.

Again, nice field report.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3032444]Maison bar report. SNIP

Rum / coke was p250. An attractive thing came up behind me and put her arms around me. Said to her that I wasn't interested in buying a LD this evening, but she didn't disappear, so I tipped her on the way out. The stage show, 4-5 girls shuffling, nothing more. While the music was loud, there wasn't really much going on. Most girls sitting about, ignoring the customers, and shuffling on the stage the girls were chatting with each other, but not really performing. One drink and bounced.[/QUOTE]Failed to report the barfine: P4800 + girl's tip. Different bars handle the girl's tip in 2 different ways:

1) Each girl decides her own tip. If you ask the mama how much the tip should be, she will tell you: "Just you chat the girl of that".

2) The bar sets the same tip for all girls, often at p5000.

Drink prices: Beer p180, mixed drinks like rum / coke p250, LD p480.

Oculto bar review. Location: Burgos St corner Calderon St, across the street from Octopus disco.

Went in on a Monday, 10 pm. One customer having a LD with a girl. One other gogo girl present. Mama and 2 waitresses, and bartender. That was everyone inside the bar. Asked the waitress how much a rum / coke cost. She handed me the drink menu, which didn't show any such price. She then looked over the drink menu, couldn't decipher it, and took it to the bartender. They looked the menu up and down as I took a seat. 3 minutes later they were still trying to find something on the menu that would resemble a mixed drink, rum and coke, etc. The mama discussed it with them. Apparently nobody is in charge or can make a decision. So I bounced as they appeared inept at discovering the prices of their own products, and there were only 2 gogo girls on duty.

Went in on Wednesday and asked the same question. The same reconnoitering happened. Finally I changed my request: How much is a 7&7? Same reconnoitering. Change ladies to gin / tonic? Same inability to find a price. If it isn't directly on that menu, you can discombobulate them. Bounced.

Went in a week later on a Thursday. Finally the girl had an answer, p350 for a mixed drink. Done! Five gogo girls all in one booth, below the TV on the wall. No customers, just me, 10 pm. When she brought my rum / coke I asked how much were the LD's. "800". P800? "Yes sir". Yikes! Sipped my drink for 30 minutes, and during that time 6 new gals walked in and changed into their bar uniform. 11 girls total, 6 do-able.

As I was paying the bill, I asked the mama how much is the barfine? "We don't have barfine sir. Just you pay the girl. You chat the girl". Another lady came over and listened. So, negotiate with the girl first? "Yes". So don't pay anything to the bar, no barfine? The other lady chimed in: "Oh. Yes. You buy a bottle first. Its p4000 for the bottle. Then you take the girl and pay her later". Ahhhh, I see. Its the old-fashioned system, rearing its head, buy a cheap bottle of liquor for 10 x its normal price, which covers the barfine amount. And LD's are how much? "800". Only 800! "Yes sir".

San Mig and RH were p150. There is no dance stage here, the girls just sit around in booths. During my 30 minutes there, only 1 other customer was in the bar.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3032784]Obviously depends the girl, but any of these might happen: She shoves your hand inside her bra or bikini top, she plays with your Junior outside your pants, and if under the table she might later venture her hand down your thigh to the open leg of your shorts, and work it up inside (shorts are better than long pants). You put a hand on her thigh and work it up to her cooch, and she might pull the panty aside so you can get a feel of the clitty and such..[/QUOTE]I've had everything including sample BJ under the table, full fingering and endless DFK. At other bars the princess thinks I'm there to discuss global finance with her or something and just sits there. I make it clear from the first drink that I expect to be entertained and I will buy many more drinks. Otherwise I just walk after one. Or I look around the bar and see if others are getting any play and the general energy and mood of the place. You can usually tell if you can find some action or not. Once you find a girl willing to play, the next trick is to slow down the drink rate. Someone else said 3 dronks per hour per girl. That sounds reasonable. One drink should give you 20 min of fonding, kissing and fooling around. Again, be clear. Tell them if they gulp it down they are not getting a second drink. If they take their time they will get many more. Most of the girls understand that. This strategy may or may not work if the bar is very crowded with customers but it always work when you are the only game in town.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;3032929]First off apologies since I lost all my notes and this is all off of my very poor memory. Review is of the week starting Sunday October 5. I visited Burgos on Sunday Tuesday Thursday and Saturday. Went into food comas on the off nights from eating way too much at the ton of buffets around BGC.

Sunday. Night 1 club 1 - Kojax Plan B. I went here cause it was recommended to me and it was the name I remembered the most as I walked up Burgos for the first time. I knew Sunday was going to be slow so wasn't expecting much. When I walked in I was surprised that it was better than I expected. There were 15-20 girls total and I saw 2 that I liked. All the girls sit on stage and in seats at the front of the stage. Zero dancing or activity so club atmosphere is almost non existent. As soon as I got my drink (I forgot all drink prices but I do recall that Kojax was the most expensive of all the bars for my drink. Almost double IIRC), I was attacked by 6 girls. 1 was ok the rest I had no interest in. They all seemed friendly but since it was bar 1 and I saw who I wanted on stage I said no. No does not mean no on Burgos as 2 of them didn't leave me. Sadly by the time they left the girl I wanted had been called down for drinks by one of the 3 other guys in the bar. I thought no big deal this my first bar on Burgos so all others must be like this every night. I was so wrong! Little did I know that this Sunday night was the best lineup I saw at Kojax and I never saw the girl I wanted again on my 3 subsequent visits that week. On each of those visits there were only around 10 girls all of whom were there on Sunday...[/QUOTE]Playing around having fun is one thing, that is a mongers job. Letting them quit their job, especially a real job to entertain you in your travels, that is coldblooded. These people are human beings with lives of their own when you move on. Real jobs there are hard to find, almost impossible. This possibly ruined a girls life, oh well sorry, I'm a bit embarrassed, yes I bet you are.

Little Fingers bar review. Location: Burgos, corner Kalayaan St, next door to Blue Parrot bar. Also its in the location of the old Mixed Nuts (however, the entrance is on Kalayaan St, not Burgos for the old Mixed Nuts). It is above the old Ringside bar. You have to walk up a healthy flight of stairs. About 9:45 on a Wednesday evening. Myself, and 1 other customer having a LD with a girl. 7 girls, all over age 28. Two MILFs. The other 5 girls, while over age 28, were close to being do-able, but just not quite there. The figures were not bad, but they gave the appearance of having lived a hard life.

Called one of the MILFs over for a drink, hot bod, nice figure, no baby marks in a bikini and nice rack. Very sweet. Started with some small talk and proceeded to some good pervin'. That lasted for about 10 minutes. But, stoopid me, we got off the pervin' thang (her rack) and somehow got to chatting about real life. We both stopped pervin' and had a lovely conversation for about 20 more minutes. Twice the waitress came by to get me to buy her another drink but I waved her off and said no. The MILF didn't leave at any point after her drink was finished, we just sat there and talked. Good girl!

Two gents walked in and then turned and left. Another guy walked in and then back out. The other customer departed alone.

At about the 30 minute mark I finished my drink, paid the tab (p750-ish), and bounced. Overall a rather dull place. The dancers are shufflers and emailing it in. The MILF was great, very mature in attitude and conversation. However not sure I can recommend the place. Little Fingers, Blue Parrot, and Lollipop bars are all small places, with a dozen girls or less, and seem to have so few customers that you wonder how they keep the lights on. Anyone else with another view of LF?

Mixed drink p350, LD p390. Barfine p3900, girl's tip p5000 all girls (according to the MILF).

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3033619]

Mixed drink p350, LD p390. Barfine p3900, girl's tip p5000 all girls (according to the MILF).[/QUOTE]That's pre Covid pricing. Admittedly before you got a looker vs old stock now but it's still not bad for the bargain hunters.

G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3033635]That's pre Covid pricing. Admittedly before you got a looker vs old stock now but it's still not bad for the bargain hunters.

G.[/QUOTE]Certainly now several (smaller) bars have some older gals. The BF p3900 was more standard just around June / July of this year, but several bars have increased to either p4200 or p4800. Prices are on the jump. More reports soon.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3033657]Certainly now several (smaller) bars have some older gals. The BF p3900 was more standard just around June / July of this year, but several bars have increased to either p4200 or p4800. Prices are on the jump. More reports soon.[/QUOTE]I can confirm p3900 at Littlefinger, Ironhorse and even Champagne (slightly flashier) around last week of Sept.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3033657] LittleFinger.. Called one of the MILFs over for a drink, hot bod, nice figure, no baby marks in a bikini and nice rack.[/QUOTE]Aahn, did her name start with "B"? She is mostly in Bikini. If so, she has amazing attitude and great company.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3033657] LittleFinger.. Twice the waitress came by to get me to buy her another drink but I waved her off and said no.[/QUOTE]Yes, the waitress is non pushy. She is calm and nice. I like Littlefingers accounting. They write slips and keep it on your table. Marquee, Lips, Bottoms and Maison are known to fraud people quickly. A dancer and waitress who were in Bottoms are friendly with me. They saved me last year when Bottom was trying to cheat me. They asked me to leave soon.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3033657] Little Fingers, Blue Parrot, and Lollipop bars are all small places, with a dozen girls or less, and seem to have so few customers that you wonder how they keep the lights on. Anyone else with another view of LF?[/QUOTE]I am told that the owners of LF, Blueparrot, Nautika and Bottoms are the same. LF will get upgraded at somepoint. They are making losses today (courtesy mamasan and manager). Some of the girls here (LF) are mostly first timers who just start this work for $$. I liked a few girls in LF -- their names start with "C -- age 22", "P. Age 21 with a kid" and "A -- age 22 with a kid". I liked A and P (in addition to C). P has noserings and has a cute face. All of them were open for lots of perving, and tugging. They all gave me an amazing sendoff the night before I left -- though I did splurge p30 K. They were naughty, well too naughty. The waitress and mamasan did not care, and simply closed the screen and moved on. Oh well!