Chat Rooms & Pen Pals

[QUOTE=Hutsori;1802205]Are you sure? I recall reading research a few years ago about guys who overrate their appearance by 2 points on the 1-10 scale - the psychological phenomenon of 'self-enhancement'. A lot of fours thinking they're sixes. Post some of your photos on a hot-or-not website and let the public opine. This is also a good way to have photos selected for your dating profiles.

Take heart. An okcupid study showed women rate men low yet still message them, [URL]http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/your-looks-and-online-dating/.[/URL]

[I]". . . women rate an incredible 80% of guys as worse-looking than medium. Very harsh. On the other hand, when it comes to actual messaging, women shift their expectations only just slightly ahead of the curve, which is a healthier pattern than guys pursuing the all-but-unattainable. But with the basic ratings so out-of-whack, the two curves together suggest some strange possibilities for the female thought process, the most salient of which is that the average-looking woman has convinced herself that the vast majority of males arent good enough for her, but she then goes right out and messages them anyway."[/I][/QUOTE]I dunno about that. I never heard about credible polling in the Philippines. I have found the opposite to be true on the ground.

When my friends who barely travel and are puzzled about why I go the Phils I try to explain like this.

When I'm there I'm 6'2" (I'm 5'9 1/2" I'm viewed as much more handsome than I am here at home, maybe +3 on your scale though I never used that metric maybe I will, thanks. I am viewed as wealthy, while here I am quite frugal and not at all wealthy. My dick becomes a source of awe and grows 3 inches and increases in girth in the eyes of the girls.

My age effectively is cut in half and I'm able to attract females the age and attractiveness I did when I was in college. Is it a sustainable reality and is it true? No of course not. Are they expert in buttering me up? Hell yes but its intoxicating. Would it be reality if I were there 365 24/7? No way. But in three week bursts a few times a year its a well earned and paid for tonic for life.

All they see is pale skin and a 'pointed nose'. I have come to they conclusion most of the girls in the provinces and new to AC and manila or who have very little first hand exposure to foriegners can't tell a handsome one from a homely one.

Any foriegn guy who has problems getting willing attractive, young if they wish, female companionship 2-3 levels above their 'grade' in the Phils is due solely to their attitude and the way they treat the girls, not their physical attractiveness.

[QUOTE=ImAGuy;1800712]Tried talking to about 20 random girls in my city on Facebook with zero response. I'm decent looking and early 30's. Badoo is just as bad. Also, every white guy I've seen on the street or in the mall is with a sub-5 girl always the same age if not older than the guy. Saw a handsome guy who had to be in his late twenties with a sub5 woman who looked 35. At that point I stared at the sky, expecting the legendary Skogis to descend from the heavens and smite this noob for not having 500 girls adding him hourly on Facebook.[/QUOTE]Try date in asia and get their skype if they have it. American women? Forget it! None of them are worth the trouble plus most are overweight, bitchy and selfish, lousy lovers. I stick to Asian and Latin women? They know how to treat a man!

[QUOTE=Pantot;1802507]Any foriegn guy who has problems getting willing attractive, young if they wish, female companionship 2-3 levels above their 'grade' in the Phils is due solely to their attitude and the way they treat the girls, not their physical attractiveness.[/QUOTE]Yes, probably "sexual shoplifter" kuripot cheapskates.

[QUOTE=Pantot;1802507]I have found the opposite to be true on the ground.[/QUOTE]Yep. Of course the ground isn't wastebook and badoo, the places where the OP's attempts to attract women were based.

[QUOTE=Pantot;1802507]Any foriegn guy who has problems getting willing attractive, young if they wish, female companionship 2-3 levels above their 'grade' in the Phils is due solely to their attitude and the way they treat the girls, not their physical attractiveness.[/QUOTE]Though I hesitate to use the word 'solely' (and 'never' & 'always') when the issue is debatable, you're mostly right. Of course the OP only mentioned his "decent" looks and did not disclose the content of his messages so it's difficult to analyse the reasons for their shunning him. Knowing how attractive women receive several dozen messages everyday I think their ignoring him could be due to one or more of the following reasons (some serious and other less so): he's not as decent looking as he thinks he is; he's much better looking than he thinks he is and the girls are scared of his handsomeness; he's sending boring 'Hi' messages; he's sending rude messages; the girls prefer other blokes; the girls are too lazy or busy to read or reply; the women he's contacted are all comatose or deceased; something else. If forced to pick one sole reason . . . I guess they've forgotten their passwords.

[QUOTE=David_33;1802762]Yes, probably "sexual shoplifter" kuripot cheapskates.[/QUOTE]Perhaps. But since it's only messages he's sent it seems unlikely the women could deduce his miserliness unless his profile photos depict him as a destitute beggar or mangy hobo or his message says "fuck for free" unambiguously.

I don't know whether the OP is looking genuinely for recommendations, but if he is then he ought to include more details about his approach. If I recall correctly Skogis established his relationships with women first on the dating sites, later created his fakebook account, and his first friends were those women he already knew. From those he was able to grow his base by searching through their friends and also by their referrals - basically word-of-mouth advertising, the most successful kind. This approach is quite different from the more difficult cold-call approach I believe the OP is using on wastebook.

[QUOTE=Hutsori;1803073]Yep....

SNIP

If I recall correctly Skogis established his relationships with women first on the dating sites, later created his fakebook account, and his first friends were those women he already knew. From those he was able to grow his base by searching through their friends and also by their referrals - basically word-of-mouth advertising, the most successful kind. This approach is quite different from the more difficult cold-call approach I believe the OP is using on wastebook.[/QUOTE]Great post, some solid learning here. I have tried the approach used by the almighty Skogis and it works quite well. The first contact is made on ground in the real world. You treat the first few contacts really well and then they spread the word for you. Its like having your own personal pimp. And the results are delightful.

That said, I am none closer than Mars in terms of the number of chicks banged thru this route as compared to Skogis.

[QUOTE=Hutsori;1803073] If I recall correctly Skogis established his relationships with women first on the dating sites, later created his fakebook account, and his first friends were those women he already knew. From those he was able to grow his base by searching through their friends and also by their referrals - basically word-of-mouth advertising, the most successful kind. This approach is quite different from the more difficult cold-call approach I believe the OP is using on wastebook.[/QUOTE]This is my preferred approach now and it has been incredibly successful. I no longer use dating sites.

[QUOTE=Python75;1803188]This is my preferred approach now and it has been incredibly successful. I no longer use dating sites.[/QUOTE]This way is the best IMHO and have used this method for a number if years. I ask about their friends etc and sure enough some are always willing to meet. Even better some are 'educated' about bisexuality and the joys of threesomes, group and the need for 'accessories'.

All from asking nicely when I see a photo of the cuties with her friends. Am doing this at the moment and new one in Cebu is preparing to meet innocent me.

Whoa, guys! I wasn't saying that I'm having trouble meeting girls, just that meeting them offline is much easier than Facebook, Badoo, etc. At least in my experience.

It could be Cavite, too.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;1803093]Great post, some solid learning here. I have tried the approach used by the almighty Skogis and it works quite well. The first contact is made on ground in the real world. You treat the first few contacts really well and then they spread the word for you. Its like having your own personal pimp. And the results are delightful.

That said, I am none closer than Mars in terms of the number of chicks banged thru this route as compared to Skogis.[/QUOTE]Women are more likely to judge & view a man as more attractive when they see another woman looking, smiling at him or knows him .

[QUOTE=Pantot;1802507]All they see is pale skin and a 'pointed nose'. I have come to they conclusion most of the girls in the provinces and new to AC and manila or who have very little first hand exposure to foriegners can't tell a handsome one from a homely one.[/QUOTE]You forgot that they also see a fat wallet and a potential ticket out of there; perhaps even more so for some of the ignorant province girls. For many of them there we're nothing but a walking ATM machine.

An Filipina friend (from the past) posted a picture of a hospital room with a vague comment that implied she was in the hospital. Of course some of her friends inquired about her health and what is wrong. Her reply, "two years ago, ha, ha".

I guess humor doesn't cross cultural boundaries very well.

(I was going to put this in the Filipinas thread, but they are busy talking about health care over there).

Hope everyone is enjoying the weekend. I'm doing as well as possible considering I'm not in the Philippines! X Man.

[QUOTE=XMan;1803769]An Filipina friend (from the past) posted a picture of a hospital room with a vague comment that implied she was in the hospital. Of course some of her friends inquired about her health and what is wrong. Her reply, "two years ago, ha, ha".

I guess humor doesn't cross cultural boundaries very well....[/QUOTE]Laughing it off is how she deflects blame for lying or misleading. She implies that she was only joking. They do know when they are doing wrong!

I agree that most of my mongering is hazzlefree but not allways ofcourse. For my upcomming Makati trip and during my pre com work (mostly through my fakebook ofcourse) the following occured. Did have a new friend request from a lovely lady who indeed had a few mutual friends I allready befriended (non of those I have boinked though). I welcomed her into my alter world and passed on to her my regular copy / paste opening message (in short I tell how sexy she looks, I am in town only very short period of time, we have small inhouse room party, we have to be effective and if she wants to meet up, her viber etc etc etc). Strangely I could feel something was cooking / not right after I passed on this msg to her. And rightfully so. In return I got this huge rant she knew who I was. I asked ofcourse how and choked when I got her reply. She is waitress at A nearby eatery close to Ascott and she ofcourse has noticed I bring in quite a few girls for drinks and bites to eat (they know what I drink, what I prefer to eat and my given Makati name). She in a way could be a danger to my system, so I quickfixed my fakebook and deleted all her mutual friends along with her. No point in having her mutuals as she obviously, and most rightfully so, would tell her "friends" so would not, under normal circumstances, stand a chance indulging into "her group of people". I write this off as a minor hickup only and I am still getting ready to feast (yeah I know this is phils and normal probably don't exists but still). I will ofcourse find another safespot to share my drinks and bites with arriving girls (when I feel like it). Second alternative is to go solo down to "the place" and straighten things out with her so I can still use It as a safe haven.

[QUOTE=Skogis;1804595]Strangely I could feel something was cooking / not right after I passed on this msg to her. And rightfully so. In return I got this huge rant she knew who I was. I asked ofcourse how and choked when I got her reply. She is waitress at A nearby eatery close to Ascott and she ofcourse has noticed I bring in quite a few girls for drinks and bites to eat (they know what I drink, what I prefer to eat and my given Makati name). [/QUOTE]So why didn't you just tell her that it was her turn?

Mostly my mongering is hazzlefree but this time I struck a bad wave in my selection of girls. Here we have the typical, "ok sweetie, then we have a deal we meet outside my place at this or that time as agreed? I will come down pick you when you text me you outside my place, ok?" Her answer: "Huh". Its nothing more motivating than having arranged everything down to the smallest detail with a girl, she seems to understand and then when I am about to close everything down you get the "huh" comment.

I am overreacting when I say I struck a bad wave in my selections of girls but when out of 50,2 stupid girls, realy can destroy what so far was a perfect day. I don't know how they do it or how it is possible to be as little attentive as these two birds, hehe. I can laugh about it now but if you bother to read on my rant was something like this:

"Here we have communicated in FB a couple of days, we have the time set and we are excited to meet eachother for small inhouse party, an effective date so to speak. From all our mutual communication when I sum up all this before travelling towards phils I get "huh" as a response. You claim to be educated girl. To transfer our communication into a math class it could go something like this: you nod your head all the time pretend you understand what the teacher is teaching you. You have no clue though what is comming from the teachers mouth so at the end of the class all you are left with is a big "HUH" in your head, am I right?

On my behalf this was a wake up call to stay sharp and control, during communication, the girls are paying attention so I could stop the "huh's" at an earlier stage and maybe move on to the next one in line. Live and learn, live and learn.

I would not bet to much money on her reply beeing something far from "huh" but on the other hand you never know. I on the other hand have moved on and are left by 48 girls to pick from this trip.

It may be more fun in the philippines but it can be irritating getting there.