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[QUOTE=Trawlerman;1661208]Yeah, I did complain, argued with the manager, but he brought in two extra security guys and the situation got a little intimidating. I decided just to pay, go and not come back.[/QUOTE]By the way, do you remember the girl number?
It may be good to avoid her.
[QUOTE=Ikksman;1661482]
You are extremely naive if you think that the girl received any of the 100 RMB. In all probability, she was likely also fined (just another way to extract money from the poor WGs).
Ikksman.[/QUOTE]The girls have a regular check up, 100 rmb will pay for an intermediate check up at the clinic, which is fact the neighbour to Siyuan, in Laoshan Lu.
[QUOTE=ShanghaiGuide;1661063]Foreign KTV girls? You expect western girls? Than I am afraid no chance, at least I not found a club yet who provided western KTV girls. If Korean or Japanese girls are what you are looking for, than much more easy, but for club with pretty ones you will not go out with less than 1000 to 1500 RMB sitting fee (no extra service included). So from my point of view not really a good deal.[/QUOTE]I have been to KTV with some Russian girls. Quality not good and not pleasant. Much better off with young good looking Chinese girls.
[QUOTE=Beijing4987;1658821]If you join and can receive a PM I can give you advice. Talking openly about FS at these places may cause LE to shut them down.
Sorry for the double post but I was also wondering if there are any cheaper barbershop alternatives near the same area in Jin'an. I can do without the whole shower and massage routine and would rather go somewhere where FS is offered straight up.
Thanks Sam for the tips.[/QUOTE]BBS usually environment is not good. Decent ones put a disposable sheet over bed. That's about it. Girls don't shower after each customer. If you are prepared, pm me and I can tell you some BBS nearby.
[QUOTE=ShanghaiGuide;1653612]Not really sure, what you are looking for? Could be it's a "wording" problem? You will not find something called "parlor" in Shanghai. You have massage places, but no 90 sex sessions there. I know some massage parlors, where you pay around 400 for 30 minutes, than you habe Barbershops (BBS), but there it's cheap and fast, so also not matched to your requirement. The only place where you can get 90 minutes sessions will be a sauna or spa location, and here the budget will be around 650 to 1000, so that will matched most to your request. But who told you they aren't as great, and as great as what?[/QUOTE]Are their any reliable in call service providers in sh? I know about sauna, BBS, KTV. But once in a while in call service is nice.
So, yesterday I went there, booking the famous and 18.. And I really find wired. In the room I had a short fat a/b cup middle age with big but flat ass. And she didn t provide Bj, and for a Fs the quotation 500rmb…
1 - First possibility: they cheat me.
2- Second one: The so famous 18 change shop or number.
3- Third one: My standard is maybe too high.
I was in that shop already 3 times. And really not so happy.
Tonight I ll go around my old area in Gubei, I got new location of some gems back on duty.
However BoB, Dudes and Fellas. Happy Christmas and happy new year.
[QUOTE=ShanghaiNemo;1661974]So, yesterday I went there, booking the famous and 18.. And I really find wired. In the room I had a short fat a/b cup middle age with big but flat ass. And she didn t provide Bj, and for a Fs the quotation 500rmb
1 - First possibility: they cheat me.
2- Second one: The so famous 18 change shop or number.
3- .[/QUOTE]Your answer is above.
18 is out of town. She is mid to late 20's. No fat ass, smaller chest but not terribly small. My standards are high and she meets them.
Sam.
[QUOTE=Ikksman;1661482]He wrote that he paid the fine.
Some Chinese brand condoms break very easily. I have had a girl break 2 of them just trying to put them on me. I then made her use one of my polyurethane Okamotos which are extremely thin but strong.
You are extremely naive if you think that the girl received any of the 100 RMB. In all probability, she was likely also fined (just another way to extract money from the poor WGs).
He did not risk the girl's health. She risked his health. And again, he paid the 100 RMB (under duress) that they levied because they classified him as a newbie.
Ikksman.[/QUOTE]Ikks,
Once again you nit pick conversations trying to find something to complain about. He wrote he paid the 100 RMB so that is not the question. I wrote he should pay because the girl was put at extra risk. But, no one knows her health status so it is possible he was the one at risk. That is a coin toss. When you write " She risked his health? You are assuming the customer is clean. Only his doctor knows and you do not know his health status.
Regarding condoms if you are a tourist and have access to good condoms. You should be bringing your own condoms. I am not a fan of Asian condoms because many are weakly made.
China is a big place and unless she is a sex slave she is free to leave and work somewhere else.
For you guys who want to find escorts in Shanghai, you may PM me. I stayed there for 2 years, and found one good reliable agency, who has list of over 100 girls, from students, office lady, models even small tv movie stars. This was the best one I found through hard work and luck!
Before you start to gain interest, I'll explain a little bit for you.
Pros: Huge number, overall high quality, reliable agency, reliable pictures of each girls on website, most of the girls have a real job and quite highly educated, and usually they will satisfied all your need, eg, CIM, DFK， DATY, etc.
Cons: high price as well (one hour from 2000 RMB to 20000, most range BTW 3000-8000), agency fee (it's usually 1000-5000, but included in the total price, which means if you visit the same girl again, the money you pay will be the initial price minus the agency fee), I'm not sure if the reception speak english and they mainly use social tool QQ.
As an example for you, I picked several girls from 2000-5000 before, and my favorite was one 22 girl who has a Japan background. She's 4 K, agence takes 1 k, so the money went to her was 3 k. I usually visited her for 2 hours with 4. 5 k. And last month I check she's still on the clock.
At last, I don't have any relations with this agency, actually I have left Shanghai, and spent my past years in Paris. So now I'm exploring the wonderland of europe, and just accidentally entered this one.
[QUOTE=Faceless78;1662129]For you guys who want to find escorts in Shanghai, you may PM me. I stayed there for 2 years, and found one good reliable agency, who has list of over 100 girls, from students, office lady, models even small tv movie stars. This was the best one I found through hard work and luck!
Before you start to gain interest, I'll explain a little bit for you.
Pros: Huge number, overall high quality, reliable agency, reliable pictures of each girls on website, most of the girls have a real job and quite highly educated, and usually they will satisfied all your need, eg, CIM, DFK， DATY, etc.
Cons: high price as well (one hour from 2000 RMB to 20000, most range BTW 3000-8000), agency fee (it's usually 1000-5000, but included in the total price, which means if you visit the same girl again, the money you pay will be the initial price minus the agency fee), I'm not sure if the reception speak english and they mainly use social tool QQ.
As an example for you, I picked several girls from 2000-5000 before, and my favorite was one 22 girl who has a Japan background. She's 4 K, agence takes 1 k, so the money went to her was 3 k. I usually visited her for 2 hours with 4. 5 k. And last month I check she's still on the clock.
At last, I don't have any relations with this agency, actually I have left Shanghai, and spent my past years in Paris. So now I'm exploring the wonderland of europe, and just accidentally entered this one.[/QUOTE]I looked at your posts from Germany FKK and Paris; I think it's fair to say that you are very unique to most posters here on ISG, in that you have no problem paying insanely high amounts of money for your prostitutes. The prices you are quoting above, in Shanghai, are nothing less than ridiculous to all but the very wealthy. But good for you, I guess. My troubling question is what's with the PM needed? It's a website, that obviously wants to find wealthy (or stupid) clients; you claim no ties to them, so why not just post a link?
Today I paid a visit to Royal Spring sauna and booked their model girl, S1. Announced price: 1880 RMB / hour.
For the location, it is already well known, nearby the fake market on Nanjin Rd.
As for the girl, obviously the pictures are much better than in real life. I did not ask for her age and I'm not sure about her name (we exchanged wechat contacts).
Stats:
Occupation: Model.
Height: 1,70 m at least.
Weight: 45 kg I guess, very thin.
Breast: A, with big nipples.
Body: very thin, no fat (one little scar on right side of belly).
Ass: not to flat. But no round enough and skin breaks on it.
Pussy: natural, not shaved.
Service: 5/10 (no kiss, no DATY, no fingering).
Retry: Probably but not in the sauna.
The session.
Booked S1 in the taxi, so she was ready when I arrived.
She is wearing a long dress that is more for a ceremony than to give you a hard on!
Arrived in room, undressed and went to shower. No real discussion since my Chinese is poor. After the shower, we go to the bed and she start with nipples licking (her mouth is wet, so good point) and she moves to BBBJ. The BJ is OK but nothing exceptional. It is wet! I want to switch and go for DATY, but she refused. So I lick her nipples, play with her clit with my fingers but no penetration and no saliva. She takes care of me again, makes me hard, cap me and we start in mish. Since her services are limited to basic sex, my plan is to take my time and come at the end of the session. This is what happened. We had sex for almost 45 min: mish, spoon, doggy, standing up, doggy against the bed. I think she came at least twice since she asked me to stop and catch her breath. She ended up all sweaty although she never went on top!
I finally shoot on her legs while she was licking my nipples.
So was it is good session? Yes in a way she never complained that I did not come fast. But no because her services are rather limited in the sauna. So I will try a meeting outside and see if there is any difference. It will also be cheaper!
[QUOTE=LaoMa;1662166]I looked at your posts from Germany FKK and Paris; I think it's fair to say that you are very unique to most posters here on ISG, in that you have no problem paying insanely high amounts of money for your prostitutes. The prices you are quoting above, in Shanghai, are nothing less than ridiculous to all but the very wealthy. But good for you, I guess. My troubling question is what's with the PM needed? It's a website, that obviously wants to find wealthy (or stupid) clients; you claim no ties to them, so why not just post a link?[/QUOTE]Ah, yes, I thought about one minute about posting that contact information here, but, as I mentioned.
That's QQ number, if suddenly tons of strangers come to him, I don't think he'll accept the requests. Its not like an escort site, everyone can look at the page and make a phone call.
And I'm not sure I'm among the rich, I just spend the money on where I like, I don't have many other interests. And as I explore more and more, I realize insane rich people are everywhere.
It was just a friendly proposal, anyone interests in or not, doesn't make any difference to me.
[QUOTE=SamCan;1662045]Your answer is above.
18 is out of town. She is mid to late 20's. No fat ass, smaller chest but not terribly small. My standards are high and she meets them.
Sam.[/QUOTE]Thanks Sam, I appreciated your answer. Surely they gave me a fake 18!
[QUOTE=TomSf;1658590]Pukimonster,
Please don't attack this guy with names. He wrote a review. If it ended badly then it is a learning experience for all of us.[/QUOTE]How many times do you see a male tourist being set up by a tout on Nanjing Lu. If you interfered you would quickly find out they are a gang not just one person.
It needs to be said over and over not ever to go with touts anywhere or anytime. Never.
That includes females or innocent seeming young girls just wanting to practice their English.
They are all there to rob you, not to welcome you to China. Some or most are willing to hurt you.
If you want to be robbed and maybe hurt as well then go with the nice touts. If you want to have a good time at a fair rate then read the forum and find out where.
To go.
[QUOTE=TomSf;1662119]{S N I P} China is a big place and unless she is a sex slave she is free to leave and work somewhere else.[/QUOTE]I would like to offer a slightly different view. There are many reasons why WGs, who are not 'sex slaves' (in the formal definition of the term), are not free to leave. A [B]few[/B] of these reasons are:
• The employer takes the girls ID card
• The employer threatens to inform the girl's parents, relatives, village of her occupation.
• The BF back in the village has promised to marry her as soon as she earns a certain amount of money
• The girl has been deliberately introduced to drugs and now has a dependency on them
• An 'Auntie' or relative has introduced her to the business and basically controls the girl
• The girl has become dependent on, and controlled by, a cockroach
• The girl owes money to the employer (training, uniforms, fines etc)
In the case of pre-yanda Changping, I estimate that the majority of girls, who had been working there for more than a few months, fell into one or more of the above categories.
Ikksman
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