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[QUOTE=Loco Smith]I'm trying to plan a trip to TJ from seattle. Anyone going soon? Can someone give me some info.[/QUOTE]
Yes!!
Read Brockton O'Tooles guide very carefully, then ask specific questions based on what you learned. We'd be delighted to help you out.
Country John
[QUOTE=Country John]Yes!!
Read Brockton O'Tooles guide very carefully, then ask specific questions based on what you learned. We'd be delighted to help you out.
Country John[/QUOTE]Hell I even printed it out and am studying it like I'm back in college.
I'm looking for any help as well. As far as traveling down that way, I have parking check. I have taking a taxi checked and Country I read yours and various other members post about cash and cops. But I still have a few questions:
As far as cash, I've read that you guys say not to have it on you but do you mean don't have a lot or just don't bring any and use an ATM?
What time is a good time to go, I'm thinking of taking a Friday trip that way being that I live in L.A. I was thinking of getting to TJ around 12pm and maybe staying till 10pm or 12am. Is that a reasonable time to go and see all the sites?
Another question is ID, should I have a passport now with all the new law stuff about travel that way? I have a passport but I need it updated.
Any help would be great and I'm following your advice on not looking like a tourist as well!
Thanks
You don't need a passport, yet. At the beginning of 2008, you'll probably need one.
You should carry as much cash as you think you'll need. The policia are pretty homophobic, and I know some who stash the bulk of their money in their underwear because they say that the policia never check your underwear. I've never done this; I don't think it's necessary.
Friday is not a bad day because there will be more chicas working. That said...there will also be many more mongers, and you won't get any special deals that you can usually get during the week. Personally, I like Thursdays and Sunday afternoons.
Havent been down in a while or on the board but I noticed some comments about more cops? Just curious if someone could clue me in? I was thinking about heading down this week but that depends on the situation.
Take care everyone!
Cali
[QUOTE=California Guy]Havent been down in a while or on the board but I noticed some comments about more cops? Just curious if someone could clue me in? I was thinking about heading down this week but that depends on the situation.
Take care everyone!
Cali[/QUOTE]
You might notice more cops around, but nothing has changed. Just use the same common sense as before and you should be OK.
Country John
Hello fellow mongers,
I just wanted to thank everyone especially CJ with his knowledge of this great land. I have only been two times, and chose the sg's since it is more in my budget and there were a lot of very hot ones to chose from in my opinion. I would go to AB, drink a beer then go walking. I chose 3 chicas the first time, 4 the second. The second time I got stopped by the policia as I was just walking around minding my business. They were asking for drugs or viagra, and I had nothing on me just some condoms. So they were fine after checking me they just let me go thankfully. I do have just a few questions for CJ or anyone else who really knows. First, is it ok to purchase beer at a store (in bottle or can) and carry it around with me (unopened) while I search for a chica? My intention would be to drink the beer in the hotel room with her. If police found me carrying an unopened beer is that ok or not? I was spending too much on the beers at AB so this would be my other way of doing it if it is ok. Also, I have some kids and ladies clothes I was thinking of bringing down and 'trading' with a chica or 2 for services. Is this ok? I could donate the clothes here in the USA but I had the idea that maybe they would appreciate the clothes and I could save some money. Also, where is Bar Tropical? Is it right in the same vicinity as AB? I would like to go there since CJ does speak highly of it. Thank you again. The Zona is the best.
[QUOTE=I Love Pussy]Hello fellow mongers,
I just wanted to thank everyone especially CJ with his knowledge of this great land. I have only been two times, and chose the sg's since it is more in my budget and there were a lot of very hot ones to chose from in my opinion. I would go to AB, drink a beer then go walking. I chose 3 chicas the first time, 4 the second. The second time I got stopped by the policia as I was just walking around minding my business. They were asking for drugs or viagra, and I had nothing on me just some condoms. So they were fine after checking me they just let me go thankfully. I do have just a few questions for CJ or anyone else who really knows. First, is it ok to purchase beer at a store (in bottle or can) and carry it around with me (unopened) while I search for a chica? My intention would be to drink the beer in the hotel room with her. If police found me carrying an unopened beer is that ok or not? I was spending too much on the beers at AB so this would be my other way of doing it if it is ok. Also, I have some kids and ladies clothes I was thinking of bringing down and 'trading' with a chica or 2 for services. Is this ok? I could donate the clothes here in the USA but I had the idea that maybe they would appreciate the clothes and I could save some money. Also, where is Bar Tropical? Is it right in the same vicinity as AB? I would like to go there since CJ does speak highly of it. Thank you again. The Zona is the best.[/QUOTE]
Tropical is across the street from AB.... I dont think it is a crime to carry a beer but I wouldnt do it just because you never know if the cops will give you problems. Last, the clothes idea wont work. They are trying to make money, and they have pimps, so you will be carrying clothing for no reason. If you wanted to give it as an additional gift that might get you a better session since most of those girls are like a piece of wood in bed.
I believe that it is OK to carry unopened beers.
I have done it numerous times. without even thinking of this as an issue and have done it mostly carrying them across the police station near guadalupe's spot (east end of the alley)
I do not know the exact legal situation. but I never had a problem.
[QUOTE=I Love Pussy]Hello fellow mongers,
I just wanted to thank everyone especially CJ with his knowledge of this great land. I have only been two times, and chose the sg's since it is more in my budget and there were a lot of very hot ones to chose from in my opinion. I would go to AB, drink a beer then go walking. I chose 3 chicas the first time, 4 the second. The second time I got stopped by the policia as I was just walking around minding my business. They were asking for drugs or viagra, and I had nothing on me just some condoms. So they were fine after checking me they just let me go thankfully. I do have just a few questions for CJ or anyone else who really knows. First, is it ok to purchase beer at a store (in bottle or can) and carry it around with me (unopened) while I search for a chica? My intention would be to drink the beer in the hotel room with her. If police found me carrying an unopened beer is that ok or not? I was spending too much on the beers at AB so this would be my other way of doing it if it is ok. Also, I have some kids and ladies clothes I was thinking of bringing down and 'trading' with a chica or 2 for services. Is this ok? I could donate the clothes here in the USA but I had the idea that maybe they would appreciate the clothes and I could save some money. Also, where is Bar Tropical? Is it right in the same vicinity as AB? I would like to go there since CJ does speak highly of it. Thank you again. The Zona is the best.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=I Love Pussy]Hello fellow mongers,
I just wanted to thank everyone especially CJ with his knowledge of this great land. I have only been two times, and chose the sg's since it is more in my budget and there were a lot of very hot ones to chose from in my opinion. I would go to AB, drink a beer then go walking. I chose 3 chicas the first time, 4 the second. The second time I got stopped by the policia as I was just walking around minding my business. They were asking for drugs or viagra, and I had nothing on me just some condoms. So they were fine after checking me they just let me go thankfully. I do have just a few questions for CJ or anyone else who really knows. First, is it ok to purchase beer at a store (in bottle or can) and carry it around with me (unopened) while I search for a chica? My intention would be to drink the beer in the hotel room with her. If police found me carrying an unopened beer is that ok or not? I was spending too much on the beers at AB so this would be my other way of doing it if it is ok. Also, I have some kids and ladies clothes I was thinking of bringing down and 'trading' with a chica or 2 for services. Is this ok? I could donate the clothes here in the USA but I had the idea that maybe they would appreciate the clothes and I could save some money. Also, where is Bar Tropical? Is it right in the same vicinity as AB? I would like to go there since CJ does speak highly of it. Thank you again. The Zona is the best.[/QUOTE]
Unopened containers are OK. Might be a little warm when you get to the hrooom though.
SG's will usually NOT drink during working hours (some don't drink or smoke at all). They have their padrotes watching them. Most ARE being watched, so be careful.
The girls do not want clothes. They can afford to buy nice stuff for their kids. Used clothing usually goes in the dumpster, I wouldn't waste my time.
drop the clothes at the local Salvation Army or somewhere useful. BNow if it's NEW clothes you're talking about then that is a whole different story, only don't buy the clothes, give them the money.
Bar tropical is across the street from Adelitas. Walk out the front door of AB, look to the left, there it is.
I had a fav at Adelitas once tell me a story about this guy (regular customer, Americano Gringo) who sessioned with her a few times and he was in lub with her. She has a few kids and the guy know it.
One day he walks into Adelitas with THREE large plastic trash bags BURSTING with old clothes. she said "Wat ju do wit dat heer?" The guy says "It's for you and your kids!! (big smiles etc.) She said "I don whant dat sheet, get it away from me!" "What I whant is ju muny!"
And oh yeah......Guadalupe......man, she is looking fine fine fine fine. Said Hi to her last Sunday. She could have been the next Tania (or maybe she is).
Be safe and be nice
Country John
Hey, usually post in the DR section.
Are there any girls from other countries working here (Asian or European)? Just wondering.
Reposted here to make sure I get more opinions
For those of you who have been to the clubs a few times - will the girls talk to you for a few minutes BEFORE you buy them a drink?
My thoughts -
If I go to a club, bar or anywhere else, I want some conversation first. This is my screening time. I don't read anythiung on this thread about fellas screening the girls. I can usually tell within a few minutes if the girl is interested, a shark, or a dud (I wrote usually). So, I prefer some conversation for a minute or two, then if there is a click, I'll buy a drink to feel her out some more. Most importantly, I want to find out what the girl will do in the room BBBJ, CIM, anal, and what she won't do. Then if its all good, hit the sheets.
Lets say you see a hottie and decide to buy her a drink right away and she turns out to be a dud (no spark), you just wasted a few bucks 'for nothing'.
Or even worse, if you grab a hottie and just take her to the room without screening her first, you may again waste some cash. So I recommend screening beforehand.
Interested in hear some constructive opinions about this issue.
Thanks Donnie
[QUOTE=Donnie D]Reposted here to make sure I get more opinions
For those of you who have been to the clubs a few times - will the girls talk to you for a few minutes BEFORE you buy them a drink?
My thoughts -
If I go to a club, bar or anywhere else, I want some conversation first. This is my screening time. I don't read anythiung on this thread about fellas screening the girls. I can usually tell within a few minutes if the girl is interested, a shark, or a dud (I wrote usually). So, I prefer some conversation for a minute or two, then if there is a click, I'll buy a drink to feel her out some more. Most importantly, I want to find out what the girl will do in the room BBBJ, CIM, anal, and what she won't do. Then if its all good, hit the sheets.
Lets say you see a hottie and decide to buy her a drink right away and she turns out to be a dud (no spark), you just wasted a few bucks 'for nothing'.
Or even worse, if you grab a hottie and just take her to the room without screening her first, you may again waste some cash. So I recommend screening beforehand.
Interested in hear some constructive opinions about this issue.
Thanks Donnie[/QUOTE]
A good question, but it tends to depend on the situation as well as the bar. For example, if the girl is standing and you walk up to her for a minute and chat with her, then you can usually get away for a few minutes without buying her a drink. If you are sitting and she comes to you, usually within 1 minute (at the busier bars like AB, HK and CC after 9pm) you will be asked by a waiter if you want to buy her a drink. At the smaller and less crowded bars, where there are fewer stupid gringos around, guys can and do routinely spend a few minutes chatting with the girls before buying them anything (the locals guys especially).
The waiters at the larger/busier bars are trained to be pushy, especially with Americans, but don't let that deter you. If you haven't made up your mind yet, just say no to the drink and continue chatting with the girl for as long as she will let you. At a smaller less crowded bar, she will likely want to chat with you (because there are fewer big spending gringos there) but at the larger bars, if you turn them down for a drink, they almost immediately ask you if you want to go to the hroom.
Generally, my approach at the larger bars has been to find somebody I like after scoping the place out for 30 minutes or so, then invite them to have a drink. I then use the drink to take care of the small talk and give them what Country John calls the "squeeze test". At this point, you can start to talk about what will and will not happen in the hroom. Just be careful to negotiate and confirm downstairs in the bar, and make sure to pay after the session, especially if you are asking for something a little out of the ordinary. At the smaller places, I talk with the girls for a few minutes and make the decision whether to buy them a drink or not based on the conversation.
The first time you go to ABs, just sit at the bar on the right after you walk in, order a beer, sit back and watch how the place works. It won't take you long to figure out the rhythm of the place. Girls are constantly coming over to guys, sitting down at tables and going upstairs.
Blue Nose
[QUOTE=Member #2600]Hell I even printed it out and am studying it like I'm back in college.
I'm looking for any help as well. As far as traveling down that way, I have parking check. I have taking a taxi checked and Country I read yours and various other members post about cash and cops. But I still have a few questions:
As far as cash, I've read that you guys say not to have it on you but do you mean don't have a lot or just don't bring any and use an ATM?
What time is a good time to go, I'm thinking of taking a Friday trip that way being that I live in L.A. I was thinking of getting to TJ around 12pm and maybe staying till 10pm or 12am. Is that a reasonable time to go and see all the sites?
Another question is ID, should I have a passport now with all the new law stuff about travel that way? I have a passport but I need it updated.
Any help would be great and I'm following your advice on not looking like a tourist as well!
Thanks[/QUOTE]
As far as transportation goes, your first time down it is best to park north of the border and walk across. Go through the turnstile and take the exit on the right. Walk through the other turnstile, cross the street and turn left in front of the row of Farmacias (welcome to pharmacy alley). Keep following the sidewalk and signs for the taxi libres (white cars with orange markings - $3 to the zone) or you can take an expensive yellow taxi ($5 to the zone), which are closer but more expensive. If you are unsure where the taxi libres are, just follow the crowd of local people, who will walk right past the yellow cabs.
Just bring the cash you need, and there's really no need for credit cards or ATM cards. Keep $10 in your car for parking (in case you lose your money) and it is always good to take $20 from your wallet and put it in your shoe or something in case the policia or bad guys take your money. If you have a hotel, you can use their safe for your valuables.
12pm - 10pm or 12am is reasonable for a visit. Just be careful going back to the border that time of night. Lots of cops used to hang out where the taxis drop you off for the border. Supposed to be better now, but I wouldn't risk it - have the taxi drop you off a few hundred feet away. Do not walk back to the border at night. In fact, on your first trip, do not walk anywhere.
You don't need a passport yet, but you will starting on Jan 1 2008. You need photo ID and proof of citizenship doesn't hurt either. As for not looking like a tourist, here are a few ideas: don't carry a huge backpack unless you are going to a hotel room to stay over, no cameras around your neck, no shorts or sweat pants, no maps of TJ or Spanish 101 books. Consider taking off that baseball cap and for heaven's sake NO FANNY PACKS - ever. Try to pretend you know where you are going, even if you don't. Don't loiter outside bars too much or you become a target for the policia and other bad people. Leave a bar and walk with purpose to the next one. Stopping and talking to the SGs is OK. Try to learn a few phrases of Spansih before you go, and be polite, even gracious to people. You are a foreigner and a visitor. Mexican people are used to being treated like crap by Americans, so a little humility and good manners goes a long way.
Blue Nose
Is it possible to take a girl to a health clinic and pay for her STD screening to ensure that she doesn't have herpes? Has anyone done this before?
How much would it cost to pay for a girl for an entire night?
[QUOTE=Blue Nose]A good question, but it tends to depend on the situation as well as the bar...............................
Blue Nose[/QUOTE]
I appreciate the info. If the trip pans out next month, I will send you a PM with the dates.