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[QUOTE=Member #2041]Unfortunately, their schedule between Bali and Yogyakarta is terrible.[/QUOTE]to Member,
Lion air is on EU black list as a unsafe airline ,I don't know why the travel agent push this airline maybe better comission for them before Garuda .
Fast eddie 48
[QUOTE=1Ball]
When you mention "european authorities", are you talking about the same authorities that allowed the shoe bomber, and the underwear bomber on board? I thought so. ;)[/QUOTE]
But the bombers were very unfair. As far as I remember they did not look like muslims, so the authorities had no chance to suspect them. :D
Betong: Thank you for the information. I know the risk that something should happen is small but I still like to fly with airlines that are approved not only in Indonesia.
/BP
Talking about airlines . . . . does anyone know a good flight connection between Phnom Penh and Bali? My search engines indicate at least 7 hours trip one way and 800 USD for a round trip. So it does not seem possible to go to Bali just for a weekend. But are there maybe any small airline with better connections that is not found by the search engines?
I'm asking because I have just got a job offer in Phnom Penh.
Thanks,
BP
Bellpepper
Air Asia (has flights into Europe, so you will feel safe.)
depart DPS 6.00 am, lands PNH 15.50. cost 160 USD OW.
the return on said airline is not possible same day.
[QUOTE=Gonzo Two]An interesting statistic: you are ten times more likely to die in a plane crash on an Indonesian airline than the global average for domestic and international flights around the world. Mind you, the average is about one in a 100,000 or something (pulling a figure out of the air), so ten times higher and you're still likely to survive. Still, something to think about ....[/QUOTE]
Yes, something to think about, although that statistic includes the crashes on Adam Air, which is no longer in business.
Garuda is the safest of the Indonesian airlines, although none of them reach the standards set by Cathay Pacific or Singapore Airlines. Lion Air is not bad but has the reputation for "postponing" maintenance sometimes (I heard this from one of my former neighbors, who worked for them).
[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]Garuda is the safest of the Indonesian airlines, although none of them reach the standards set by Cathay Pacific or Singapore Airlines.[/QUOTE]
In 2008, all indonesian airlines, including Garuda, have been banned from flying to European Union.
Don't know if they are still on EU blacklist though. Maybe there has been improvements in their safety standards.
[QUOTE=Prosal]In 2008, all indonesian airlines, including Garuda, have been banned from flying to European Union.
Don't know if they are still on EU blacklist though. Maybe there has been improvements in their safety standards.[/QUOTE]
All Indonesia based jets were banned in EU in 2007 after a series of crashes. In 2009 EU lifted the ban from four airlines, just as Betong wrote. These airlines are Garuda, Mandala, Airfast Indonesia and Premiair. (30 March 2010) Reference: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_air_carriers_banned_in_the_European_Union#Indonesia[/url]
[QUOTE=1Ball]Bellpepper
Air Asia (has flights into Europe, so you will feel safe.)
depart DPS 6.00 am, lands PNH 15.50. cost 160 USD OW.
the return on said airline is not possible same day.[/QUOTE]
Thank you. I think I will feel safe on Air Asia ;)
[QUOTE=Gonzo Two]Mind you, the average is about one in a 100,000 or something (pulling a figure out of the air), so ten times higher and you're still likely to survive.[/QUOTE]Just so we don't have to pull numbers out of the air, Planecrashinfo (a pretty reliable source) calculates that the odds of not surviving a scheduled commercial airline flight, 1985-2009, were 1 in 9.2 million for the safest 25 airlines worldwide, and 1 in about 840,000 on the least safe 25. In other words, so unlikely even in the worst case that it's hardly worth worrying about.
But we humans do worry, and there's a lot to be said for peace of mind when flying. Especially when the weather gets nasty, which of course happens a lot over Indonesia. So I'm happy to pay a bit more for what I perceive as a safer airline. But I try not to be too concerned when I have to take one that isn't. It's still several hundred times safer than riding a motorcycle, and I do that every day.
[QUOTE=Bellpepper]Talking about airlines . . . . does anyone know a good flight connection between Phnom Penh and Bali? My search engines indicate at least 7 hours trip one way and 800 USD for a round trip. So it does not seem possible to go to Bali just for a weekend. But are there maybe any small airline with better connections that is not found by the search engines?
I'm asking because I have just got a job offer in Phnom Penh.
Thanks,
BP[/QUOTE]BP,
I don't think there are direct flight I have check into that about 8 yr ago, you need to connect at Bangkok or HK not sure about now.
Fast Eddie 48
Special alert for the guys that want to summer in Indonesia. Ramadan dates this year are August 11th thru September 9th.
IF starts September 10th thru September 20th. During this period travel is very difficult as all the space is usually sold out and is very expensive.
Book accordingly and ask the bros here if you need assistance.
RL
Air Asia also runs sales quite often, so you might want to sign up for email alerts and the like from them. I flew BKK-PNH when the route was new for $50 or $60 which was 1/3 the going price at the time. They have a bit of the Southwest effect, drastically lowering fares when they enter the market.
[QUOTE=Bellpepper]Talking about airlines . . . . does anyone know a good flight connection between Phnom Penh and Bali? My search engines indicate at least 7 hours trip one way and 800 USD for a round trip. So it does not seem possible to go to Bali just for a weekend. But are there maybe any small airline with better connections that is not found by the search engines?
I'm asking because I have just got a job offer in Phnom Penh.
Thanks,
BP[/QUOTE]
You can do PNH - BKK then BKK - DPS direct on AirAsia. Alternatively you can do PNH - KUL, then KUL - DPS direct, also on AirAsia. Given a choice between the 2 I would prefer to transit in Suvarnabhumi instead of KLCC, but check schedules and fares.
The 3rd most straighforward option is to do PNH - SIN on Jetstar and then from SIN you have a myriad of options for DPS.
Happy travels.
[QUOTE=Raverboy]You can do PNH - BKK then BKK - DPS direct on AirAsia. Alternatively you can do PNH - KUL, then KUL - DPS direct, also on AirAsia. Given a choice between the 2 I would prefer to transit in Suvarnabhumi instead of KLCC, but check schedules and fares.
The 3rd most straighforward option is to do PNH - SIN on Jetstar and then from SIN you have a myriad of options for DPS.
Happy travels.[/QUOTE]
Thanks, all of you, for your help!
BP
but if you do jetstar, watch the baggage WEIGHT - it cost me an extra $100 out of PP to get to SIN (baggage cost was about the ticket cost)