Manila

Wednesday afternoon at about 3-00 and LAC / MBC was pretty crowded with a 20/1 ration in favor of the hunters. Standard issues in the place . Not enough waitresses, my throat was dryer than a frenchman's towel as I was waiting for a beer; smoke (they were trying to fix the a / see and filters) ; quality of girls. It really was not that great. The ones that were decent failed to make eye contact, and then when a goup of Koreans walked in they were like moths to a flame.

The smoke got the better of me, and I decided to do one round through Amazonia, one block north. There is news from there. The really old girls seem to have been moved on, and that is no bad thing. I played a couple of games of pool with three girls before choosing a 26 year old 5'1" cutie with very acceptable boobs (name escapes me) , but was of decent enough to work LAC / MBC succesfully, and way above what Amazonia had before. BTW, the other guys in there at the time were 50-ish casual non-mongers (at least not agressive mongers).

Back to my hotel, and young wassername really delivered. Directed oral, a little light rimming, MPFS and the culminations was a massive facial load that caused only a gentle rebuke. She blanked me on being able to break down the back door, however. I gave her 1200 and she was gone within the hour (my choice).

Next day, wandering into Robinsons, I got the old, 'hey, you know my I am security at your hotel! ' thing from a tubby POS that couldn't secure water in a sink. 'That's right, ' I said 'Do you have that 1, 000 pesos I gave you for your boyfriend's rent? ' (I have a loud voice, too). As he ran away from me, I called after him about his boyfriend. Funny old town.

[QUOTE=Mongerer69;1239474]The Exit Fee is being reduced to P550 I believe effective February 1st. The extra P200 was for Airport Security Renovation Fees done over the past 5 or so years. I guess they think they are finished.[/QUOTE]M69,

Red Kilt posted about the 200p fee reduction 10 days ago and there was a lengthy discussion that followed a few pages back on this thread.

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[quote=teacup; 1239875]the smoke got the better of me, and i decided to do one round through amazonia, one block north. there is news from there. the really old girls seem to have been moved on, and that is no bad thing. i played a couple of games of pool with three girls before choosing a 26 year old 5'1" cutie with very acceptable boobs (name escapes me) , but was of decent enough to work lac / mbc succesfully, and way above what amazonia had before. btw, the other guys in there at the time were 50-ish casual non-mongers (at least not agressive mongers).[/quote]amazonia is a nice enough joint, however has seen better days i'm sure. nowadays, absolutely nothing is going for amazonia, the old lags being moved on is a step in the right direction, it is good to read of the positive news a few young chicks trying their luck, provided they are allowed to do so. i took a chick there and she was not permitted entrance, not an age issue. i rather like the look of the bar area, they have done some decorating recently, have also enjoyed a couple of bands playing there. will have a peep next time i'm in town.

[QUOTE=Cool Traveler; 1239316]Viagra. Without hesitating the gal asked what weight, I said 25 mg, she said 500 pesos. I bought two 25 mg pills. She showed me the box, and told me they are the original, pulled a strip out, cut two and gave it to me. I paid and quickly left.

Note to self: Do not take Viagra if you have had one too many San Miguel![/QUOTE]Real Viagra here cost the same whether 25 mg. 50 mg or 100 mg. I just buy the 100 mg and split it in 3-4 pieces, it can be a little messy but those suckers are hard enough that they do break off cleanly. Or you can get one of those cheap pill breakers. It is like getting 4 for price of one for me.

[quote=noddy;1240064]amazonia is a nice enough joint, however has seen better days i'm sure. nowadays, absolutely nothing is going for amazonia, the old lags being moved on is a step in the right direction, it is good to read of the positive news a few young chicks trying their luck, provided they are allowed to do so. i took a chick there and she was not permitted entrance, not an age issue. i rather like the look of the bar area, they have done some decorating recently, have also enjoyed a couple of bands playing there. will have a peep next time i'm in town.[/quote]i was enjoying the band that was playing 70's rock / roll. loved it. sat with my pinay tapping my toes. several girls would come and dance up front every few minutes, then disappear. same set of girls. i noticed they would stop dancing in the middle of a song and go sit down, and two songs later they would jump back up. for the life of me, i don't see this music as dance music (allman brothers?). my gf said the manager makes the girls dance. they are not working girls in the sense that they go with customers for hankypanky, they are paid just to hang around and dance, to attempt to get customers to enjoy the band. she said that based on what the dancers were saying, they hated the music and couldn't dance to it; hence they would quickly quit and sit down. i was the only customer in the bar for 60 minutes.

[quote=mongerer69;1239805]soapy massage in manila is not as easily found as in bangkok. i used to go to roman suites in makati behind new world and that was always good in a pinch for p1, 000. you can try "craigslist manila" under therapedic section. there are alot of massage offerings there some freelance but most agencies. as long as you are in craigslist check out "casual encounters" every time i come to town i get at least 1 good freebee out of there. the last 2 times, i put an ad on there for men seeking woman and hit the jackpot with responses, photos and plenty of piany pussy some married that wanted to be wined dined fucked and treated like a lady. this has never failed me i have a list of numbers and plenty of correspondence with these gals.[/quote]can definitely get freebies (treat them well, dinner etc.) in manila. cl is just one of many places. i usually give them some taxi money home though (in the range of 500 to 1000 php) , just to make things even a little.

see my earlier trip reports in the makati section.

i got back from baguio sunday and checked into copacobana. rather than texting my previous honey, jenalyn (see my first two reports under makati) , i decided to check out the famed manila bay cafe.

disclaimer: i should mention, that i type these reports into notepad on my tablet first then copy into the posting form, and although i try and preview before i submit, it sometimes does odd things and doesn't quite read well. i guess if i was using a real computer, it would be easier. so bear with me if my writing seems a little odd.

flagged a taxi on edsa and told the driver i wanted to go to diamond hotel as it was close to mbc. as we got close, we could see there was a parade on roxas so i said i would walk the rest of the way and was glad it was at 5pm and not 11pm as it was rather a sketchy area. on entry to the cafe (more of a pub) , i was greeted by a cutie with a uniform and i'd tag who seated me at one of the tables to the right of the door. question: do these uniformed cuties play for pay? right away, two older women hit on me, asking me questions. i did my best to be polite but display lack of interest, which after a while, they got. i ordered a beer, and noted the odd way i had to initial the order form. rather than run a tab, i paid up front. anyway, no sooner did a beer arrive than a filipina sat next to me. on my scale, i'd say she was a 5. she said she was 27 (looked about 22) and was working to add money to her day job which is doing manipedies in peoples homes. just for fun, i asked her rate for an lt, but she only did st in a nearby hotel. i wasn't overly interested in her anyway and was watching some real cuties pay a lot of attention to some guy at the bar. i was wondering how i could get a one of those hot girls over. then i noticed a girl, who really matched what i was looking for in a filipina, she was petite, nice face, nice legs and butt but not hot, more a girl next door type, but to me, really attractive. problem was, although she stood in front of me with her friends she didn't appear to notice me. after a few minutes i approached her and soon we were talking. she said she was 25 and her name was marilyn. we negotiated a bit. she was asking for 4000 lt but agreed on 3000. oddly enough, we had to leave separately so we agreed to meet outside. outside, i was greeted by a one legged old man with his hand out, so i gave him a few peso coins. next, an old woman had her hand out so i also gave her some coins. thankfully, before other people caught on, my new gf came out and we snagged a taxi.

it was a long, long taxi ride back to the hotel made more difficult with the tent in my pants. finally, back at the hotel, she had a shower and we settled down to some cuddling. i soon discovered that she had no condom and she was emphatic about no "making love" without condom. my little brain was all set to ignore this rule, but she was right, and right to make this rule. in the end, she gave me a nice bj and we agreed to pick up some condoms when we went out for supper. after, out for supper we went. i couldn't get any suggestions from her as to what she wanted to eat, or where to go, so i opted for the only part of town i know, to go to greenbelt. well, that was a mistake. firstly a long taxi ride, secondly, although there are many restaurants in the greenbelt, i chose one that was expensive but very mediocre food. i can't remember the name of it, but it was on the upper floor of gb3, was a pizza, pasta and steak restaurant. because i thought she might like something with rice and seafood, i ordered the paella. well, i have never had paella like that before. the seafood consisted of some battered fish, some tough mussels, tough calamari and a couple of decent shrimp. the rice wasn't flavored well and was too mushy. boy, i really could get used to having some sweet young lady serving my food and peeling shrimp for me. we pecked through the food, leaving a lot. i really wanted to give her a good meal, but i sort of struck out there. we walked around the high end stores for a while and then taxied back to the hotel, getting some rubbers on the way.

back at the hotel, we watched tv for a bit, and talked quite a bit about our lives. it was more like a gf date than a session with a pro. later, we made good use of a condom, and snuggled for a bit. i hadn't really negotiated a time that she should stay until the next morning, but she said she would like to leave at 6am. we snuggled some more and couldn't really get to sleep, so around 2am, i said i don't want to wake up at 6am to say goodbye, and asked if she wanted to leave now or else stay past 6am. at first, she insisted she wanted to stay with me, but in the end, i made it clear that i didn't mind at all if she left then. i walked her down to the street, gave her 200p for taxi and flagged a taxi. we exchanged phone numbers and a promise that we might get together again.

i have to tell you, as a newbie at this, its like nothing i have ever experienced mongering state side. the two girls i have met so far are great and well worth spending money on. there is something about the last girl, marlene, that i really like and have a hard time reminding myself that its play for pay and not to snagged into something emotional. not only would it be unrealistic, but somewhat difficult considering i do have a gf stateside (who i wish had the body of marlene). there is nothing emotional about the limited mongering experience i have had in the us. in the us its quite easy to understand that we don't pay the girl to stay with us, we pay her to leave when we are done. i don't feel the same way here.

i also have to remind myself that a lot of details both girls gave me about their lives is probably fiction, fair enough, since i provided some misdirection about my details as well, including a different name.

i'd be interested in hearing about some of the old timers here, how they manage to keep emotional distance from some of their favorites.

again, i apologise about a long winded report. got to learn to summarize more.

[QUOTE=IM Punter;1242650]Again, I apologise about a long winded report. Got to learn to summarize more.[/QUOTE]Not at all. Excellent descriptive report. Others could learn a lesson.

[QUOTE=IM Punter;1242650]I have to tell you, as a newbie at this, its like nothing I have ever experienced mongering state side. The two girls I have met so far are great and well worth spending money on. There is something about the last girl, marlene, that I really like and have a hard time reminding myself that its play for pay and not to snagged into something emotional.[/QUOTE]The filipina is often more GFE than others. They seem to simply know no other way, except the hardened bargirls. They also love to talk, talk, talk (or txt, txt, txt) between fucks.

Im Punter, please don't apologize. Your's was an excellent report and I wish there were more like it. Your reaction to the solid GFE provided was, I think typical of a fist visit and indeed typical of many of the experiences I had through the years before opting out. The rather unusual aspect of the MBC experience, I think, is that there's always the possibility of meeting a genuinely sweet, affectionate woman who genuinely enjoys (or at least appears to enjoy) spending time with you. Part of that experiennce doubtless stems from the courteous way you treated her; as a person and not as a temporary sperm recepticle, which I think is how lots of guys treat these women.

As far as I know, MBC is unique, at least in the Philippines. I've never been anyplace else quite like it here, or come to think of it, anywhere else.

Keep on posting. It's appreciated.

GE

You already forgot her name! In one paragraph you say its Marilyn and in another you say its Marlene! At least you remember the experience. No need to taxi all the way to Greenbelt if you want dinner in or around Ermita. Robinson's Mall is a very short taxi ride at night and Cafe 28 is even closer. There are plenty of other places in the area that serve food, including hotels.

[quote=i'm punter; 1242650]see my earlier trip reports in the makati section.

in the end, she gave me a nice bj and we agreed to pick up some condoms when we went out for supper. after, out for supper we went. i couldn't get any suggestions from her as to what she wanted to eat, or where to go, so i opted for the only part of town i know, to go to greenbelt. well, that was a mistake. firstly a long taxi ride, secondly, although there are many restaurants in the greenbelt, i chose one that was expensive but very mediocre food. i can't remember the name of it, but it was on the upper floor of gb3, was a pizza, pasta and steak restaurant. because i thought she might like something with rice and seafood, i ordered the paella. well, i have never had paella like that before. the seafood consisted of some battered fish, some tough mussels, tough calamari and a couple of decent shrimp. the rice wasn't flavored well and was too mushy. boy, i really could get used to having some sweet young lady serving my food and peeling shrimp for me. we pecked through the food, leaving a lot. i really wanted to give her a good meal, but i sort of struck out there. we walked around the high end stores for a while and then taxied back to the hotel, getting some rubbers on the way.

i have to tell you, as a newbie at this, its like nothing i have ever experienced mongering state side. the two girls i have met so far are great and well worth spending money on. there is something about the last girl, marlene, that i really like and have a hard time reminding myself that its play for pay and not to snagged into something emotional. not only would it be unrealistic, but somewhat difficult considering i do have a gf stateside (who i wish had the body of marlene). there is nothing emotional about the limited mongering experience i have had in the us. in the us its quite easy to understand that we don't pay the girl to stay with us, we pay her to leave when we are done. i don't feel the same way here.

i also have to remind myself that a lot of details both girls gave me about their lives is probably fiction, fair enough, since i provided some misdirection about my details as well, including a different name.

i'd be interested in hearing about some of the old timers here, how they manage to keep emotional distance from some of their favorites.

again, i apologise about a long winded report. got to learn to summarize more.[/quote]you being a newbie i would like to comment on few things.

1. you paid too much for lt. generally you can get a nice looking girl for under 2500. essentially you paid for st. most of these girls want to run away. this girl probably has a child and that is why 6 am was mentioned.

to qualify as lt it has to be a pop in the morning as well as breakfast together sometimes.

2. these girls are not impressed by expensive restaurents or food. they are quite happy with neighbourhood jollibee friend chicken with rice. i can understand you treating it as a regular date. with more experience you will.

get over it. these girls have seen all type of mongers from big spenders to penny pinchers.

3. you are picking up these girls for sex and sex only. being polite and nice is ok.

4. even non p4p dating type of girls are happy with phi food.

I've read back 100 pages on this thread and although I found only one mention of this, I thought it was worth posing the question. Are there any scams outside Manila Bay Cafe? I read somewhere that the taxis aren't to be trusted (irrelevant for me because I stay at Amazonia) but more notably I read one story of someone being approached by a police car when walking out of MBC with a girl. The police looking to scare the monger in to a bribe. I presume this is a very rare occurence? On my last trip I sometimes picked my girl in MBC and arranged to meet her on the corner outside Amazonia. Is this necessary?

On my last trip I had a guy approach me outside Robinsons during the day saying 'hey, I work at your hotel'. The guy looked just like the security guard at Amazonia, so I didn't mind chatting with him. I told him I wanted a beer and he offered to take me to his favourite bar nearby. It was a small bar called RED ROOSTER. I got us a few San Migs and after a while he said 'you like girls? '. He told me that the bar had university students and he waved one over (it was about 2pm, there were probably only 2 or 3 girls there). Her name was Gloria, she was 19 and she was maybe a 6/10 but with a 9/10 body. I bought her a drink but wasn't after action at that time, so decided to leave. When I went to pay my tab though they had charged me 1500 pesos for 'lady company', despite the fact I didn't invite her over and she only sat with me for a few minutes (I had exactly the same scam tried on me in Cambodia once too). I gave the cashier 300 pesos. Enough for the three drinks and generous tip. And told her 'I pay for drinks, no girl. I did not ask for girl'. I said it with a smile on my face and left quickly. I have found out since that this is a common scam, so I thought it was worth mentioning in case any first-timers are reading. Lesson to be learnt: Tread carefully if someone comes up to you on the street pretending to know you (and lesson 2, pay for drinks as you go along and don't run up a tab).

Apart from MBC, any more bar recommendations in the Ermita area? I tried Amazonia (quiet with pushy girls) , LA Annexe (dead) and G-Point (lively with a few lookers) last time, two years ago. None were very inspiring but sometimes I quite enjoyed escaping MBC for half an hour. I read something about a few bars a few blocks down del Pilar from MBC, near Hussey's. Any info?

Ps-@I'm Punter: Great report, an excellent read. We need more long-winded reports!

Something to think about next time you're buying Viagra at Mercury drugs for a 2:00 AM standing Hampton.

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[QUOTE=I'm Punter; 1242650]See my earlier trip reports in the Makati section.

I have to tell you, as a newbie at this, its like nothing I have ever experienced mongering state side. The two girls I have met so far are great and well worth spending money on. There is something about the last girl, marlene, that I really like and have a hard time reminding myself that its play for pay and not to snagged into something emotional.[/QUOTE]If you keep this in mind, you'll learn to play with these girls when you have needs, but that ultimately they are what they are; working girls trying to make ends meet. In time you will realize there are some really sweet, decent marrying types in the Philippines if you take your time and search for them off the beaten path, not in MBC or similar establishments. Good report!

YM

[QUOTE=Sir Lancelot;1243332]I've read back 100 pages on this thread and although I found only one mention of this, I thought it was worth posing the question. Are there any scams outside Manila Bay Cafe? I read somewhere that the taxis aren't to be trusted (irrelevant for me because I stay at Amazonia) but more notably I read one story of someone being approached by a police car when walking out of MBC with a girl. The police looking to scare the monger in to a bribe. I presume this is a very rare occurence? On my last trip I sometimes picked my girl in MBC and arranged to meet her on the corner outside Amazonia. Is this necessary?[/QUOTE]don't buy anything from street merchants even if it looks tempting. Sometimes they sell fake US silver dollars, watches and so on.

No need for your girl to wait for you or anything else like that, just walk out with her. Money has not changed hands at this stage even if you get approached just ditch her saying you are going back to your hotel. Anyway most girls will be glad to meet you in amazonia in couple of minutes after you live. Just tell her you prefer to walk alone and that you want to meet her in your room or at reception in 2 min. She will gladly do so, infect its better for her too.

Be aware that now girls have to purchase at least ONE drink before they live MBC. They get stamps which are checked upon exit. You may need to buy her a drink.

Have fun.