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1. Do you have a job or are retired? I work two or three days a week.
2. In an average week how often do you visit an FKK club? 8 to 10 trips a year. 1 to 3 days at a time.
5. How much money do you spend on average in a visit to an FKK club? Approx. €500 per day.
8. What do you mainly do in between sessions? (Sleep / work / watch the fun / talk to girls / talk to guys? Read.
9, 10 and 11. I find it helpful to be recognised. I don't get mucked around by the girls at Artemis, where I have visited most often.
15. Does your partner know you attend these clubs? If not, are you "cheating" but have decided you'll risk it?! No. My conscience is clear.
20. What is the best club you've been to for food? Sakura.
21. What is the best club for facilities? Sharks garden in the summer. Sakura has excellent facilities.
22. If you had to rank the best clubs on LU / quality of service by the girls in the last 3 years (rather then just recently) which are your top three (location not relevant here I. E. Not the best in Hessen, NRW etc. Just your top three overall). Sharks, Artemis and Paradise Stuttgart are my favourite, in no particular order.
23. What feature of FKK is most irritating to you and why? When a girl gives poor service.
24. Do you think the prices in the FKK clubs are too high or low (for time with the girls). It's good value.
25. How to you rate FKK clubs against other options (AO clubs, Swinging clubs, Brothels, Massage Parlours) for overall experience? I prefer FKK. My only other experience is with escorts and Amsterdam RLD, but I no longer use them. I have no interest in the others.
28. Do you prefer or avoid dessous days? Avoid.
32. Who is your favourite girl of all time in an FKK club, at which club was it and is she still working. And why is she your favourite? Nina at Artemis. Now retired.
33. At what age do you think you might say you've had enough and stop doing this? When I'm dead.
34. Do you consider yourself to be a sex addict? No.
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32. Frozty and PayforIt. Of course Nina really was one of the all time best workers I came across, mainly in her long pre Artemis career. She had the talk, the passion, and the looks for me. Only two workers could beat her for me, but I suspect on overall scores for most customers she would be the top.
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[QUOTE=NilleCopenhagen;1781718]What he is trying to ask is are you cheating![/QUOTE]Thank you for explain. I guess that the cheaters won't post anything on this review board. LOL.
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[QUOTE=Optimist;1782086]32. Frozty and PayforIt. Of course Nina really was one of the all time best workers I came across, mainly in her long pre Artemis career. She had the talk, the passion, and the looks for me. Only two workers could beat her for me, but I suspect on overall scores for most customers she would be the top.[/QUOTE]Ex World Andrea from Cz? Yeah, she was cute at World and okay at Finca and Artemis.
HB.
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If you can look into the eyes of your spouse and lie, how difficult is to type a sentence anonymously on a board where no one knows you?!
[QUOTE=UShobbyist;1782119]Thank you for explain. I guess that the cheaters won't post anything on this review board. LOL.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=PayForIt;1781727] Some guys seem to spend so much time in FKK clubs that I rather doubt they have the time or inclination to see non-working girls outside.[/QUOTE]That is probably true for some German locals but definitely not true for those punters who live in other countries where prostitution is illegal.
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[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1782122]If you can look into the eyes of your spouse and lie, how difficult is to type a sentence anonymously on a board where no one knows you?![/QUOTE]When the cheater types in anything on the laptop, his wife might sneak in and look over his shoulders. LOL.
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If I owned an FKK - and I say this w / o knowing any details of their financials so I could be totally wrong - I would not charge the girls an entry fee to come in. I would sell them Their meals, because I Am not obligated to provide free food. I would charge them 5 bucks each time they go to the room for use of the facilities, including blankets, towels, wash room, etc.
For the busy girls, the total economics may be the same or perhaps even worse, but I see a bunch of girls who barely make enough in a day to cover their entry fee, which is terrible I think. For the club, margins may decline, I don't know, but I am assuming they will attract more girls they are not at the moment because the entry fee is off putting, and in the long run their total unit volumes may increase which makes up for lost revenue from not charging entry fee to the girls.
Also I would introduce volume discounts for men as someone suggested to encourage loyalty, and also change the hourly rate for the 2nd hour to 40 per half, and beyond 2 hours to 35 per half. I realize the nrw clubs have similar discounts for longer sessions and I think that makes sense. I also think CIM should be 25. These suggestions are for the larger Hessen clubs only.
Finally, I would introduce unisex shower rooms. It would be fun to take a shower with your favorite girl, get started there and go to the room together.
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[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1782127]If I owned an FKK - and I say this w / o knowing any details of their financials so I could be totally wrong - I would not charge the girls an entry fee to come in. I would sell them Their meals, because I Am not obligated to provide free food. I would charge them 5 bucks each time they go to the room for use of the facilities, including blankets, towels, wash room, etc.
For the busy girls, the total economics may be the same or perhaps even worse, but I see a bunch of girls who barely make enough in a day to cover their entry fee, which is terrible I think. For the club, margins may decline, I don't know, but I am assuming they will attract more girls they are not at the moment because the entry fee is off putting, and in the long run their total unit volumes may increase which makes up for lost revenue from not charging entry fee to the girls.
Also I would introduce volume discounts for men as someone suggested to encourage loyalty, and also change the hourly rate for the 2nd hour to 40 per half, and beyond 2 hours to 35 per half. I realize the nrw clubs have similar discounts for longer sessions and I think that makes sense. I also think CIM should be 25. These suggestions are for the larger Hessen clubs only.
Finally, I would introduce unisex shower rooms. It would be fun to take a shower with your favorite girl, get started there and go to the room together.[/QUOTE]Go to FKK Atlanta to have girls taking shower with you. Also before at Haus Pantera, I don't know if still now at Aca Gold?
Before at GT Bruggen and LR, 1st 30 minutes were 50 and after 25 for each 30 minutes, but finished, now 50 each 30 minutes, only Samya have 2nd 30 minutes for 25 . At Sharks, GT, YY, some rooms with shower, so you can play under shower with your girl, some rooms have also jacuzzi at Samya, Prestige Neunkirchen.
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[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1782122]If you can look into the eyes of your spouse and lie, how difficult is to type a sentence anonymously on a board where no one knows you?![/QUOTE]The fact that mongers remain married is absurd bordering on bizarre.
Most of the debates here rage about prices, hours, travel costs, etc. All these would be irrelevant if you were not supporting another adult woman, no?
Seems like all could enjoy threesomes with all extras all the time without cost of a wife?
Only reason I can see is if you would lose all your assets or your wife (or her family) supports you, your job or your home, etc.
Still seems crazy.
Life is too short; make changes and enjoy!
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The correct correction
[QUOTE=NilleCopenhagen;1781748]Correction.
Artemis 1 H with CIM that's 170.
Why are you comparing German price with UAE it doesn't make sense. You can go to Polen or Thailand the prices are cheaper than Germany.[/QUOTE]Thanks Nille see. You are quite right. It's 50 for the extra rather than the 60 for the 30 minutes. I don't quite understand why that is but it is. I compared prices with other places you can go for this reason: a session with girls in FKK on the face of it looks very cheap -nowhere near as cheap as Thailand (as you rightly say) but the point I was making is that by the time you add on entrance and money for extra services the time in the room for say 1 hour is actually no cheaper in an FKK than in most other type so clubs in other countries.
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[QUOTE=PayForIt;1782178]Thanks Nille see. You are quite right. It's 50 for the extra rather than the 60 for the 30 minutes. I don't quite understand why that is but it is. I compared prices with other places you can go for this reason: a session with girls in FKK on the face of it looks very cheap -nowhere near as cheap as Thailand (as you rightly say) but the point I was making is that by the time you add on entrance and money for extra services the time in the room for say 1 hour is actually no cheaper in an FKK than in most other type so clubs in other countries.[/QUOTE]I compare the cost to other professional services that I buy. Compared with my lawyer (€1,050 / HR) and my accountant (€700 / HR) the girls are a bargain! Sadly, I seem to spend more time with my lawyer.
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The answers.
Just a quick note of thanks to all you guys who took time out to answer lots of the questions. I'm glad some found it fun and I hope it didn't irritate others.
I personally found the information interesting. Just seeing how different guys approach things is of interest. Sounds like Nina was a bit of a star.
Noticeable that most guys in the answers are single / don't have partners.
Several guys have contacted me confidentially (so no names) to say privately they would give this up tomorrow if they found a partner they liked.
Interesting that a lot of guys do NOT think they are addicted and could give this up easily.
Finally, if owners of any of the FKK clubs ever view these forums. And if you ran such a business you would crazy not to. Some of the answers on what guys would change should be taken note of. Free entry for girls / work for free, an orgy room / themed rooms and better food.
On the best clubs. Sakura comes out well. Never been so given that it's been mentioned several times. Will give it shot.
Many thanks guys.
Feel free to keep the answers coming if you feel so inclined or if you haven't done so previously.
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In my view, it is absurd to think that we could generalize any of these issues. If you take ten people here, they could each have a different situation. It would be presumptuous to tell them what to do.
And I don't think most of the debates here are about prices, costs, etc. People discuss for the most part which girls provide the best services, who are the attractive ones, etc. Anyway, that's my impression.
I was just responding some one's suggestion that a person cheating on his spouse would not admit to such a thing here.
[QUOTE=KaveMan;1782173]The fact that mongers remain married is absurd bordering on bizarre.
Most of the debates here rage about prices, hours, travel costs, etc. All these would be irrelevant if you were not supporting another adult woman, no?
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;1782151]Go to FKK Atlanta to have girls taking shower with you.
At Sharks, GT, YY, some rooms with shower, so you can play under shower with your girl, some rooms have also jacuzzi at Samya, Prestige Neunkirchen.[/QUOTE]Yep FKK Atlanta has many rooms with shower. Untill spring 2012 I used the room showers quite often there. Sometimes I used it alone and sometimes together with my girls. Also some favs of me used the room showers cleaning themselves after our session. Unfortunately Atlanta hasn't anymore the right girls for haveing fun. And this is same with FKK Rom 20 km east of Darmstadt. Before becomming a FKK club in 2008 it used to be a hotel. Therefore every room at FKK Rom has its own additional bathroom. Nice hardware but same like Atlanta no top class girls anymore.
Have I missed something at carp pond? I know only the VIP rooms with shower. I don't know any regular room at Sharks with shower.
Yep and the rooms with jacuzzi at Samya are a very good idea.