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My problem with PP is there is absolutely nothing to do until the bars open at night. I was always bored out of my mind. Le Cyrcee was the only thing I enjoyed opening late afternoon. Maybe it's changed now but when I last visited there wasn't even a shopping mall half the size of Terminal 21 in PP.
I'd only return there if a group of my friends all went at the same time and I would hang with them.
[QUOTE=HanoiMongers;2900093]I spent a lot of time figuring out the scene. There are many different types of scenes in Ha Noi, a lot of underground shit going on. I have been here almost 11 years and I speak Vietnamese so that is a huge huge plus. I have some local Vietnamese friends where I have taken them to areas and they were blown away that I knew about this place, as they didn't. Ha Noi has the best talent I have ever seen, you just have to know where to go, who to deal with and how to navigate, it is nothing like the south at all. But the girls here are amazing, plus I bang a lot of normal girls for free.[/QUOTE]Yeah there is a HUGE difference in mongering opportunities for guys who regularly visit or live in a place vs those who pop in for 2/3 wks. Local Knowledge + speaking the language is a big plus.
I don't think I am the average type of monger and require modifications to the usual service. I find this difficult to communicate to the ladies who can't speak English.
Appreciate reply.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2900178]My problem with PP is there is absolutely nothing to do until the bars open at night. I was always bored out of my mind. Le Cyrcee was the only thing I enjoyed opening late afternoon. Maybe it's changed now but when I last visited there wasn't even a shopping mall half the size of Terminal 21 in PP.
I'd only return there if a group of my friends all went at the same time and I would hang with them.[/QUOTE]Yes this tends to be my bugbear when I travel too. I'm not a stay up to 3 am big drinker, sleep till 12, wake up eat, watch some TV, lay by the pool and then repeat type of guy. I'm a into bed by 12, body clock goes off at 7, to the gym and by 10 ish what are we going to do? The in bed by 12 is a major bummer as in many places the real fun starts after 12. I've started a list of things to occupy me incl going to movies, bowling, sight seeing, shopping, etc etc. That's why I love beach side locations. Snokelling, scuba, swim, paddle.
NI.
[QUOTE=HanoiMongers;2900158]That is your personal preference. Hanoi is by far better than Bangkok in every single way. I would never want to live in Thailand, I think Vietnam is the best place in the world, I prefer Hanoi and the north. There are some of the hottest girls in the world in Nam Dinh and Hai Phong. That is what makes us all different, we all have our own opinions. I have been to Thailand many times, but as far as the people, culture, travel, food, girls, you can't compare the two, Vietnam wins by a mile and I am very happy that it is not a comfortable scene for mongering here, I hope it is kept that way. It is a gem if you know what to do, but I will say speaking Vietnamese is essential to get into the deep depths of mongering.[/QUOTE]LOL, and Hanoi is your personal preference. OK. But don't try to convince the world that Hanoi is better than BKK, the tourist numbers alone decry that ego boosting assertion.
As you say, you are happy that's Hanoi is not a comfortable mongering scene. Well it sure is in BKK. Winner.
[QUOTE=HanoiMongers;2900158]That is your personal preference. Hanoi is by far better than Bangkok in every single way. I would never want to live in Thailand, I think Vietnam is the best place in the world, I prefer Hanoi and the north. There are some of the hottest girls in the world in Nam Dinh and Hai Phong. That is what makes us all different, we all have our own opinions. I have been to Thailand many times, but as far as the people, culture, travel, food, girls, you can't compare the two, Vietnam wins by a mile and I am very happy that it is not a comfortable scene for mongering here, I hope it is kept that way. It is a gem if you know what to do, but I will say speaking Vietnamese is essential to get into the deep depths of mongering.[/QUOTE]LOL, and Hanoi is your personal preference. OK. But don't try to convince the world that Hanoi is better than BKK, the tourist numbers alone decry that ego boosting assertion.
As you say, you are happy that's Hanoi is not a comfortable mongering scene. Well it sure is in BKK. Winner.
Regardless, this is a Cambodia forum. You going to make yourslef look sillier by telling folks PP is better than BKK.
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2900311]LOL, and Hanoi is your personal preference. OK. But don't try to convince the world that Hanoi is better than BKK, the tourist numbers alone decry that ego boosting assertion.
As you say, you are happy that's Hanoi is not a comfortable mongering scene. Well it sure is in BKK. Winner.[/QUOTE]Anyone I have taken to my spots in Hanoi and Nam Dinh, they could not believe it. Bangkok is a shitty place, keep going to BKK, you wouldn't know what to do in a city like Hanoi, you seem like a real idiot. BKK sucks.
[QUOTE=HanoiMongers;2900327]Anyone I have taken to my spots in Hanoi and Nam Dinh, they could not believe it. Bangkok is a shitty place, keep going to BKK, you wouldn't know what to do in a city like Hanoi, you seem like a real idiot. BKK sucks.[/QUOTE]LOL. Validation from your friends. How scientific.
Bet you dollars to Donuts that you're one of the many expats in Vietnam and Cambodia who can't get into thailand. Seen a lot on the message boards, Thailand tossed you out out or won't let you in, and you spend your time bashing the place. Interesting that you're doing it on a Cambodian board. They must have really hurt your feelings a little fella, you're stuck in a second rate City while everyone else goes to Bangkok haha sucks to be you.
For those of you interested in Hanoi now that Mr expert has come over here, I suggest you read the first three to five pages of the Hanoi forum. Remember such comments from reputable posters such as no infrastructure, mercenary people, traffic, crappy hotels etc. Remember such comments from reputable posters talking about how bad the scene is there and how nasty and rude the people are. Absorb, with bated breath, Mr Hanoi mongers statement that he knows where to get sex from ugly girls for $8. I dare say he's probably a Vietnamese American with a little bit of national pride, low standards and a lot of ego.
Based on the comments I saw over there, I will venture to say that Phnom Penh is probably a superior mongering venue to hanoi.
Mind you, nothing affects me since I live in Siem Reap and Monger in Bangkok, quite successfully I may add. I guess some folks don't like the fact they can't find $8 ugly girls there.
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Ok never been but going soon. Best place to stay = Riverside research says but where near riverside? 130 street, 135 street, Near LE Crycee or Pontoon?
Prefer quick walk back to hotel from bars or do most guys get tuk tuk to take them around?
Looking at Sun & Moon? Any 4 star around Riverside near where I want to be. Maybe up to 100 UD per night?? Not too noisy at night.
Appreciate.
NI.
[QUOTE=NewImage;2901455]Best place to stay = Riverside research says but where near riverside? 130 street, 135 street, Near LE Crycee or Pontoon?[/QUOTE]Le Crycee and Pontoon are walkable, but not really near the riverside. Street 130 is on the northern edge. IMO, Street 136 is the heart of the hostess bar / riverside area. Note, since the Streets run perpendicular to the riverside, your hotel on Street 136 (or any other street) can be either next to the riverside, or fairly far away.
[QUOTE=NewImage;2901455]Prefer quick walk back to hotel from bars or do most guys get tuk tuk to take them around?
Looking at Sun & Moon? Any 4 star around Riverside near where I want to be. Maybe up to 100 UD per night?? Not too noisy at night.[/QUOTE]From your stated preferences, I would recommend Amanjaya Hotel. Check Agoda or [URL]https://www.amanjaya-suites-phnom-penh.com/[/URL].
Standard room is around $85. It is a 4 star hotel. Large rooms. Guest friendly. Short walk to Street 136. Faces the riverside. Very comfortable beds. Since there are no bars facing the hotel, it is fairly quiet. You get some traffic noise, but it isn't that bad; a lot better than before; it seems people do not honk as much as before.
There are a lot of good 3 star options on / near Street 136 at half the price as above. Lux Hotel has a great location on Street 136. The rooms in the front is probably noisy, but the rooms in the back are quiet. Guest friendly. But the problem is that the beds are not that good. There are numerous other 3 star hotels around that area that has comfortable beds.
[QUOTE=NewImage;2901455]Ok never been but going soon. Best place to stay = Riverside research says but where near riverside? 130 street, 135 street, Near LE Crycee or Pontoon?
Prefer quick walk back to hotel from bars or do most guys get tuk tuk to take them around?
Looking at Sun & Moon? Any 4 star around Riverside near where I want to be. Maybe up to 100 UD per night?? Not too noisy at night.
Appreciate.
NI.[/QUOTE]Sun and Moon is a 4* hotel about 2 blocks from the Riverside IIRC. Excellent, large rooms, $10 joiner fees (at least it was years ago). Rooms were around $60. For a quiet room, though, you'll need to specifically ask for an interior room (not a winner in terms of the view, LOL).
The best feature of this hotel is an amazing roof pool, but according to a recent report you must now pay for a spa entrance to use it. Don't know how much. I'd probably pay for the pool if stayed there, it's that good.
[QUOTE=NewImage;2901455]Ok never been but going soon. Best place to stay = Riverside research says but where near riverside? 130 street, 135 street, Near LE Crycee or Pontoon?
Prefer quick walk back to hotel from bars or do most guys get tuk tuk to take them around?
Looking at Sun & Moon? Any 4 star around Riverside near where I want to be. Maybe up to 100 UD per night?? Not too noisy at night..[/QUOTE]I was very happy with the Lux 2 months ago, very large room at the back of the hotel, quiet good large bed, girlfriendly and less than 50 $.
[QUOTE=NewImage;2901455]Ok never been but going soon. Best place to stay = Riverside research says but where near riverside? 130 street, 135 street, Near LE Crycee or Pontoon?
Prefer quick walk back to hotel from bars or do most guys get tuk tuk to take them around?
Looking at Sun & Moon? Any 4 star around Riverside near where I want to be. Maybe up to 100 UD per night?? Not too noisy at night.
Appreciate.
NI.[/QUOTE]It's not too late to change your plans.
I have been offered the opportunity to spend 5 weeks in Phnom Penh and I don't know whether to accept it.
It'll be for work but at least 95% of my time will be my own.
The problem in that I visited PP around 15 years ago (my pre-mongering days) and although I didn't dislike the city, there wasn't a whole lot to do and I feel like 5 weeks may be longer than I'd care to stay there. The only thing that's giving it some interest is the thought of banging some cheap young Khmer girls. But truth be told, I've no idea what the scene is like.
I like 18-21 year olds. Assuming I'm able to bring girls back to wherever I'm staying, is there a steady supply of girls in that age range? I'm assuming I'd need to find them in bars. What is the usual price for girls to stay all night and into the next morning?
Also, are there many massage parlours there these days?