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[QUOTE=DeepXliv;2308656]Much appreciated, I'm leaning towards getting an testing my luck with Airbnb and hoping there's no issue.[/QUOTE]The way to know with airbnb is to simply tell the host what you plan to do. Unfortunately, some will wait until you're there to tell you the rules but it doesn't hurt to be upfront.
Your best bet is to stay at a hotel and go find places in Bocagrande and Laguito that let you bring back chicas. Then you can start using those places from now on. I use two buildings regularly depending on availability.
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[QUOTE=Linyjo;2308485]
She crashes in bed and I lay down next to her taking stock in my first two nights here. What a shit show it has been so far. I've had sex with this girl three times and have not cum yet. I feel like I am forcing a girl to do something I know she really does not want to be doing and that is really wearing me down. I don't usually have a problem getting a girl excited about having sex with me but this one was definitely in a world she didn't want to be in. She is just trying to take care of her family and she is not equipped emotionally or mentally to be in the business of providing pleasure for money. I fall asleep feeling sad for her, thinking of and fearing for her how things are going to turn out down the road, when she is around guys who are not going to be as understanding and sympathetic as I am.
[/QUOTE]My two cents: tt was the weekend. Better to hit centro and pick up a chica you have chemistry with than just get some stranger to show up at your door step.
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[QUOTE=Linyjo;2308106]It is Monday and I am due to fly out tomorrow. If you remember my report from same time last year, I spent a good amount of time with Claudia, a college girl from Barranquilla. This year, she happens to be on holiday to Argentina during the week I am scheduled to be in Cartagena. Total bummer for both us as we both were looking forward to another week together. She offered to connect me with her school mate named Marie and I said sure, send her my contact info.
I am traveling with same wingman as last year and he has arranged to bring in his girl from Venezuela, the same girl as last year. She arrived at her sister in laws apartment on Monday night, to wait for us to arrive on Tuesday. Knowing I am solo at the beginning of my trip, she offers her sister in law as a stand in for Claudia. If you remember from last year, I banged her sister for a few nights so I figured what the hell, might as well get some sister in law too. I tell her I will take her for a trial run on Tuesday night and we go from there.
I travel to Atlanta to stay and park at a hotel, due to early flight out in morning. Wingman flies from Houston at midnight and arrives at 9 am in Cartagena. I fly out at 7 am and arrive at 1:30 pm. At 1 am I get a phone call from wingman, he missed his midnight flight out of Houston. He rebooked best he could and won't make it Cartagena until 2 am on Tuesday night.
Tuesday morning I am flying Spirit again. Small seats and no frills but for less than $400, who gives a shit. It's less than 2 hours to Fort Lauderdale, an hour layover and less than 3 hours to Cartagena. Breeze through an empty customs area, exchange $100 usd at 2700 cop and by 2 pm, I am slammed by the sunshine and humidity of Columbia. Leaving 60 degrees and hitting 90 degrees is always a sweat soaking joy.
Standard practice for arrival, I avoid the yellow cab and seek an offsite taxi. There is Johnny, aren't they all called Johnny, hustling for a gringo to take his ride. Quick negotiation, he wants 25,000, I offer 15,000 and we settle on 20,000 ($7). Into the cab, first thing he says is you look like a cop, we both laugh and then he immediately offers girls, Cheech and Chong and Tony Montana. Shows me a 5 g solid Montana and wants 200,000 ($72). I just laugh and say no thanks, I'll make other arrangements. The entire ride we go back and forth on price. I stick to my guns at $50 usd and when we hit the condo, he accepts.
Juan's Marinaire building looks the same as last year. Slightly worn but a great location and balcony views to die for directly on small private beach. At desk, I sign in and get key for 1203. Get upstairs and find that the unit is not the same as the website. It has been cut in half and looks kinda run down. Dirty walls, lack of paint after some remodeling and no tv in the second bedroom. The place seemed small and unoccupied for a while. Send Juan an email that this unit is not as the website shows and is not going to work. What else do you have available or should I just go find another place somewhere else. Less than 30 minutes later, Adolfo is at the door to try to make peace. He apologizes, remembers me from last year and says he can give us our unit from last year, 1004 and will deal with the renters that are due to arrive in a few days for that unit. Move downstairs and the unit is the same as last year. I tell him I am happy except that there are only two towels and the sheets look a bit worn. Juan sends me message that towels and new sheets will be there in morning and he will throw in a cleaning service half way through the week for our troubles. 7 nights at 90 = 630 split with wingman is $315 for the week.
While waiting for the a / see to cool the unit off, I send out messages to about 10 girls in my phone that I am in town. As the condo is now Alaska and being familiar with the unit, I feel like I am home and crash for a nap.
Wake up around 6 pm and my phone is blowing up. At least half of the girls I contacted had responded back along with Sister in law. I respond to her first, telling her to send some pictures. She sends some showing a very pretty face but all the body shots she is covered up except to show off her nice rack. Suspicious, I ask for a bikini picture. She sends a few of her in a one piece bathing suit all from odd angles. She is definitely bigger than my preferred type. I like my girls' petite, sit and spins. She was thick, with a big but flat ass and a great rack. Being wingman girls' sister in law, I decide to give her a spin. I invite her to spend the night and she says 250,000 ($90). I tell her this is just a trial run to see if I wanted her for the week, I offer 150,000 ($54) plus taxi 15,000 ($5) plus tip if I am happy. She says no, not enough and I say no problem, good luck tonight at the clock tower.
Sun is setting so I run to pharmacy to stock up on sildenafil and stop at store for fruit, beer and rum. Settle back in at condo, a little Tony Montana, a few beers and pop 100 MG sildenafil. Start playing with the other girls that responded and cruising Photoprepagos website.
8 pm and sister in law texts again. She wants in at my price. I give her directions and tell her lets go. She arrives around 9 pm, looking cute with tight pants, baggy shirt and showing off her puppies. I got a good buzz going, offer her some party favors to catch up. In less than an hour, she has bumped 1 g of Montana, a few beers and a few shots of rum. Hanging out on the patio, music blaring some Spanish music and she is standing in front of me bumping and grinding that big ass in my lap. I put my arms around her waist and damn, I would swear she was trying to smuggle a soccer ball out of a sporting goods store. Kind of felt like a beer belly. Turned off a little but raging on pharmaceuticals, I am already all in. I concentrate on her cute face and great rack of ribs. She is playful and likes to grind and dry hump my lap with her back to me.
Time to get busy and I start kissing her neck. She responds and it's off the bedroom. She sees the full length closet door mirrors and looks a bit uncomfortable about that. I turn down the lamps and use the tv as the only lights. She pushes me onto the bed and strips my shorts off and asks for a condom. Hmmm. What? I play along and point to the nightstand. She looks scared. She nervously takes off her clothes, grabs a condom and rolls it on me. Starts to give me very deep throat that lasts less than a minute and climbs on top of me to ride like a cowgirl. Caught between shock, dismay, disgust and a great buzz, I am just frozen. Laying there thinking, what the fuck is going on. Where is the girl that was acting all sexy and alluring out on the patio. Seeing that big ass chopping back and forth on me like a belt sander just wasn't going to work for me. I gave her a few slaps on the ass to indicate that I am tapping out. She climbs off looking confused, I give her a kiss on the cheek and tell her I am OK, I am going out to have a smoke. I take off the condom, place it in her hand and leave her there.
After about 20 minutes, she comes out on the patio wearing her baggy top and asks what the matter is. She can tell I am annoyed. Wingman shows up and I divert to greeting him and we have a beer. He is tired from a long day sitting in an airport and she is still nagging at me over and over about what is wrong and I just keep saying its OK. After the 20th time of her asking, I tell her, honey, I did not expect a condom for oral, the oral lasted less than a minute and you just jumped on board. It all felt mechanical and that's not how I roll. She tells me she thought that's what I wanted and blab blab blab, at that point I wasn't listening. I tell her I am going to bed and she can stay and sleep or she can go, her choice. She decides to stay and goes into the bedroom. I say good night to wingman and when I get to bed, there she is, naked and spread eagle on the bed, arms by her side. She says she wants to try again. I climb in on top of her and she just freezes. Doing nothing but just lying there. Just climb on and do what you want position. I just chuckle and lay down next to her and drift off to sleep.
It's been a long day and this has been a long read for you guys. If you made your way reading through the entire post, you now know how I felt at the end of the first night, tired, agitated and glad that it was over.[/QUOTE]Linyjo, I don't want to be mean, but you wrote a lot but not much actually happened. You arrived at the airport, did a drug deal with a cab driver, rented a place, then a chica you don't know showed up who provided crap service! You have the balls to do drug deals when arriving at airports and arguing for a better apartment, but not to tell a chica she's not doing it right!? If I saw a chica going near a condom before giving me a BJ, I would stop her, but the first you knew about it was when she was giving you head? Make clear before the action starts that you want a BBBJ! And sorry, maybe I'm a cautious guy but just reading your report and you inviting around a chica that you don't know, I hope you're not the type of guy I will be reading about who gets drugged, beaten up, robbed or worse!
Personally I don't find it very necessary for you to be bragging about your drug use on this forum either, just keep it to yourself. What's the point in that detail? Is it supposed to impress us as it added to (not very) wild time you had?
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[QUOTE=Linyjo;2308485] Looks like I got a free night so I start texting and playing around with the girls on my phone, to see which one I was going to take for a spin tonight [/QUOTE] None of them sadly, you saw the same one again who gave you a crap time the night before!
[QUOTE=Linyjo;2308485] She explains that her sister in law is new at all this and that she doesn't know what she is doing. That she came from Venezuela to make some money for her family and has never done this before. [/QUOTE] Those issues aren't your problem and you shouldn't get influenced by them on your (2nd ?) day in Cartagena !
[QUOTE=Linyjo;2308485] Wingman tells her bullshit. She should have told me that she was new at this, maybe it would have went different. She may not know how to negotiate and the business side of things but she had a husband once, a kid and plenty of boyfriends. Don't tell me she doesn't know how to suck a dick and fuck. There is a lot of Spanish going back and forth a bit, nothing angry just fast talking and obviously not seeing eye to eye. [/QUOTE] Why all the drama, just say NO !
[QUOTE=Linyjo;2308485] They go back and forth with my request and she hymms and haws about no condom blowjob. He says I guess you didn't talk to her well enough, forget it. We start eating and she responds OK, sister in law says if it's 3 naked blowjobs, she wants 500,000 ($178). LMAO. Oh my God, what planet is this chick on. Does she not know the competition level? For 500,000 I can bring in 4 different girls and get 4 BJ's from chicks that like dick. Tell her No thanks, I am moving on. A few minutes later it is down to 300,000 ($107). Hmmm, no thanks baby, have a good night. We continue eating, a few minutes later it is 250,000 ($90) but only 2 blowjobs. Now he is getting pissed. He tells her you know what he wants, after what happened last night, he is doing you a favor by even entertaining this, take it or leave it. OK, she says, it's 3 for 250,000, girlfriend says she is ready to come over but sister in law won't show up until later tonight. [/QUOTE] Sorry, didn't you just want 3 blowjobs, or was your wingman trying to negotiate an international trade deal ?
[QUOTE=Linyjo;2308485] I pop 100 MG sildenafil [/QUOTE] A-ha, now I'm starting to understand better why your constant horniness is messing up your mojo and maybe your brain too ! I take half a 25mg and I'm too horny and can barely think straight ! 100 mg, this is cardiac arrest territory !
[QUOTE=Linyjo;2308485] I get her a beer and go to my room to pop another 100 MG to balance out a bit. I'm rocking 200 MG in an hour at this point [/QUOTE] WTF ! I'm surprised you're still alive to write this ? That, on top of the Tony Montana, Beer & Rum, and you wonder why you couldn't come ?
[QUOTE=Linyjo;2308485] I start chatting up a girl from contacts and just as I am about to pull the trigger, wingman and girl come on to patio to tell me sister in law is on her way. I say I made it clear I am not interested and that I already have another girl ready to come over. He says his girl has straightened everything out, sister in law knows what is expected of her and that I will be happy. I say no way, call her and tell her not to come, I'm not interested in more drama. He says too late, she on way already. He says he will cover her costs, it's on him. I call major bro code violation. This is a major violation of our rules about never forcing girls onto the other monger. Now I am pissed and I can see he is regretting his decision. He apologizes, says it's his birthday and please just give him a pass on this one, he wanted to make his girl happy. I'm livid and have to go to my room to chill down before I blow this entire thing up [/QUOTE] This really doesn't sound like a fun time, does it ?
[QUOTE=Linyjo;2308485] She digs right in and start to give a pretty darn good blowjob [/QUOTE] Well, thank hell for that finally, I'm rooting for you buddy !
[QUOTE=Linyjo;2308485] By now I am just tired of the nonsense [/QUOTE] Yes, so am I, please stop !
[QUOTE=Linyjo;2308485] She is getting tired and I am feeling bad for her. She looked kind of pathetic down there, bobbing away trying to make it happen but it was just so mechanical and void of any sexy theme, it just wasn't going to happen. 200 MG of sildenafil is hard to come down off. Taking pity on her, I tell her it feels really great but I am not going to finish. [/QUOTE] Only your second night in Cartagena, and you're feeling sorry for the chica !? You are getting things all wrong dude !
[QUOTE=Linyjo;2308485] I feel like I am forcing a girl to do something I know she really does not want to be doing and that is really wearing me down. I don't usually have a problem getting a girl excited about having sex with me but this one was definitely in a world she didn't want to be in. She is just trying to take care of her family and she is not equipped emotionally or mentally to be in the business of providing pleasure for money. I fall asleep feeling sad for her, thinking of and fearing for her how things are going to turn out down the road, when she is around guys who are not going to be as understanding and sympathetic as I am [/QUOTE] So don't agree to see a chica again who didn't know what she was doing the first time, is in it for the wrong reasons, and don't give in to pressure from your wingman or his chica ! This is a road to nowhereville ! Instead, have a good time with a proper sex worker. If you feel sad for this chica, then help her if you like, but when you combine the two situations, like you say you will end up with a total shitshow. As you did !
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[QUOTE=Coupe66;2308784]Linyjo, I don't want to be mean, but you wrote a lot but not much actually happened. You arrived at the airport, did a drug deal with a cab driver, rented a place, then a chica you don't know showed up who provided crap service! You have the balls to do drug deals when arriving at airports and arguing for a better apartment, but not to tell a chica she's not doing it right!? If I saw a chica going near a condom before giving me a BJ, I would stop her, but the first you knew about it was when she was giving you head? Make clear before the action starts that you want a BBBJ! And sorry, maybe I'm a cautious guy but just reading your report and you inviting around a chica that you don't know, I hope you're not the type of guy I will be reading about who gets drugged, beaten up, robbed or worse!
Personally I don't find it very necessary for you to be bragging about your drug use on this forum either, just keep it to yourself. What's the point in that detail? Is it supposed to impress us as it added to (not very) wild time you had?[/QUOTE]As I said, this girl came as a relative of wingman's girl. I did not interview her or doing any prep work. Yes, I knew it was a crap shoot and I shot myself in the foot.
I'm not trying to impress anyone as is obvious by my relating the mistakes and the less than stellar outcomes at times.
I do my best to put the reader in the room with me, without bravado or ego or being self conscience.
I am just telling my story the way it happened. It is what it is. Some may enjoy my story and some may choose to pass it up, it's their choice.
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[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2308777]My two cents: tt was the weekend. Better to hit centro and pick up a chica you have chemistry with than just get some stranger to show up at your door step.[/QUOTE]I agree. I don't usually end up with strangers at all. Worse part is I had plenty of girls in my phone I already met or had relations with that would have gave a fun time.
I was trying to do a favor for wingman's girl and I got a shit show.
Moral of the story, make mistakes and get what you create from the mess. I tell the story to hopefully help drive home that point to fellow mongers. We all learn from our mistakes and from the mistakes of others. I'm not afraid to put it out there and let it be known. I've been mongering for 25 years all over the world, it's not my first rodeo but sometimes no much experience you have, you fall into the traps when trying to help or please others instead of helping and pleasing yourself.
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[QUOTE=Coupe66;2308801]A-ha, now I'm starting to understand better why your constant horniness is messing up your mojo and maybe your brain too ! I take half a 25mg and I'm too horny and can barely think straight ! 100 mg, this is cardiac arrest territory ![/QUOTE]I hear you.
I am 6-4 and weigh around 215 lbs.
My normal standing heart rate is 108.
100 MG is my usually walk around level. I usually take one for breakfast and one for dinner. 200 MG is definitely pushing my limits but it's all a balance with the other drugs, beer and rum.
[QUOTE=Coupe66;2308801]WTF ! I'm surprised you're still alive to write this ? That, on top of the Tony Montana, Beer & Rum, and you wonder why you couldn't come ?[/QUOTE]I never wonder why I don't come quickly. I know the reason. Without stimulants, I usually last around 30 minutes or more. With stimulants I can last for 2 or more hours.
Some girls really enjoy going that long and some do not, it matters the situation. When properly stimulated with a sexy chica, I have no problem finishing.
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[QUOTE=Coupe66;2308784]Linyjo, I don't want to be mean, but you wrote a lot but not much actually happened. You arrived at the airport, did a drug deal with a cab driver, rented a place, then a chica you don't know showed up who provided crap service! You have the balls to do drug deals when arriving at airports and arguing for a better apartment, but not to tell a chica she's not doing it right!? If I saw a chica going near a condom before giving me a BJ, I would stop her, but the first you knew about it was when she was giving you head? Make clear before the action starts that you want a BBBJ! And sorry, maybe I'm a cautious guy but just reading your report and you inviting around a chica that you don't know, I hope you're not the type of guy I will be reading about who gets drugged, beaten up, robbed or worse!
Personally I don't find it very necessary for you to be bragging about your drug use on this forum either, just keep it to yourself. What's the point in that detail? Is it supposed to impress us as it added to (not very) wild time you had?[/QUOTE]I happen to have some time to kill and am quite enjoying reading his story, success, failures, Tony Montana and all. If you don't like it, don't read it.
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[QUOTE=Linyjo;2308813]
Moral of the story, make mistakes and get what you create from the mess. I tell the story to hopefully help drive home that point to fellow mongers. We all learn from our mistakes and from the mistakes of others. I'm not afraid to put it out there and let it be known. I've been mongering for 25 years all over the world, it's not my first rodeo but sometimes no much experience you have, you fall into the traps when trying to help or please others instead of helping and pleasing yourself.[/QUOTE]Bingo!
Live and learn, thanks for sharing.
No more Mr Nice Guy, LOL.
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[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2264717]If they don't have ID be careful. I'm pretty sure love hotel will also expect ID when you rent the room.[/QUOTE]Never experienced nor heard of a love "motel" in Cartagena asking for ID. Nor have I experienced such in Barranquilla or Medellin. I do use higher-end ones so-to-speak, that are geared toward discretion, i.e, you drive into a gated compound, then directed to pull into an individual garage that goes with a particular unit. Your taxi/car pulls into the garage, they close the garage door and unlock the door to your room. You get out, go to the room, do your thing and call them when you are ready to leave (or they show-up if you haven't called at the end of the standard allotted time, which has predominantly been 2 hours at most places I've used).
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[QUOTE=Linyjo;2308813]I agree. I don't usually end up with strangers at all. Worse part is I had plenty of girls in my phone I already met or had relations with that would have gave a fun time.
I was trying to do a favor for wingman's girl and I got a shit show.
Moral of the story, make mistakes and get what you create from the mess. I tell the story to hopefully help drive home that point to fellow mongers. We all learn from our mistakes and from the mistakes of others. I'm not afraid to put it out there and let it be known. I've been mongering for 25 years all over the world, it's not my first rodeo but sometimes no much experience you have, you fall into the traps when trying to help or please others instead of helping and pleasing yourself.[/QUOTE]I have enjoyed reading your posts. It is refreshing to read about the fails and not just the wins. Please continue to post and share your experiences be it good or bad. I am pretty sure that a majority of the readers here have enjoyed and learned a thing or two from all these.
Looking forward to more reports from you. Happy Mongering.
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[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2308308]I'm not following. It's 20 k to go from airport to Bocagrande. A little more for Laguito. Why use a taxi that's not registered? It's quicker, safer, and less hassle.[/QUOTE]Taxi fare is the same to go to Laguito as it is to go to Bocagrande regardless of your starting point elsewhere in Cartagena. If one chooses to pay more, then it's because he wants to provide a tip, or he believes a taxi driver who is being dishonest.
The fares are set annually by the City, although this year I don't believe the new fares have been released due to ongoing discussions with the taxi union, officials and the public. There has been discussion of requiring meters, and I'm not sure where that stands exactly. Last month (March), they did release that the minimum fare was raised from 6,700 to 7,000. The night premium for 9 pm to 5 am is still 500 pesos. The official fares from 2018 were / are still in effect until notification of updated 2019 fares from the City.
The 2018 Official directive from the City is that the fare from the Airport to Bocagrande or Laguito is 19 mil pesos. Like you, I give the driver 20 k without the expectation of receiving 1 mil back in change.
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[QUOTE=Linyjo;2308813]I agree. I don't usually end up with strangers at all. Worse part is I had plenty of girls in my phone I already met or had relations with that would have gave a fun time.
I was trying to do a favor for wingman's girl and I got a shit show.
Moral of the story, make mistakes and get what you create from the mess. I tell the story to hopefully help drive home that point to fellow mongers. We all learn from our mistakes and from the mistakes of others. I'm not afraid to put it out there and let it be known. I've been mongering for 25 years all over the world, it's not my first rodeo but sometimes no much experience you have, you fall into the traps when trying to help or please others instead of helping and pleasing yourself.[/QUOTE]Hey man, enjoyed the read; thanks for your reports! Kudos to you for sharing the ups and the downs. Shows your confident, yet humble and that you aren't conceited.
Keep 'em coming!
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[QUOTE=DeepXliv;2308654]Hello,
I'll be down from May 4-May 18. I'll be getting some surgery done but will have plenty of time to play before. I know may is not peak season but will there still be plenty of women? Or will it be a problem?
Also I'm going to try and learn some Spanish but if I'm staying in Bocagrande, from clock tower should I take an Uber or taxi? In terms of safety and not getting ripped off?[/QUOTE]I've been in Cartagena during the May time frame you mention for each of the past 11 years and will be there again next month. There has always been plenty of women to get with each and every time. Less dudes and less tourists overall, but I'm not there to meet and mingle with dudes and tourists so I find May to be very favorable. That being said, it has been my experience that there are plenty of women each and every month out of the year. Unless you have local girlfriends or amigas with benefits, I wouldn't be keen on being there from say Dec 23 - Jan 10th or so, nor this week / weekend (Easter); although given the high number of Venezuelan chicas in Cartagena who won't be going home for Semana Santa, there will be more women around this week than the pre-Venezuelan influx days.
Taxis are abundant in Bocagrande and it is safe to grab a licensed taxi off the street there. The minimum fare during the day before 9 pm and after 5 am is 7 mil pesos. While there's a 500 pesos premium for 9 pm to 5 am, they'll round up 1 mill, so it becomes 8 mil. Bocagrande to el Centro is 7 mil during the day and 8 mil during that 9 pm to 5 am period. Oh, and in the set fares there's another 300 or 500 pesos for air conditioning, so that will also be rounded up to 1 mil as well, LOL. The typical taxi "rip-off" will be 1 - 2 mil pesos, which amounts to 33 - 66 cents. I wouldn't let my blood pressure get elevated over 33 - 66 cents. So expect that you'll pay 8 or 9 mil during the day, and instead of 8 mil at night, you'll pay 9 or 10 mil. I wouldn't let 33 to 66 cents get to me.
Until one learns the lay of the land so to speak, it's advisable to ask the driver "how much" to go to (insert where going) before getting in the taxi. Just open the door and ask before getting in. Agreeing to the rate quoted or not up front will avoid any surprise at the end of the route. If the rate quoted is inflated, counter with the proper rate and either come to agreement or not. Oh, and even many locals do the exact same, even though they obviously know the lay of the land. Maybe (er likely) it's because they know the lay of the land that they ask upfront. :)
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[QUOTE=Hilltopper;2309007]I've been in Cartagena during the May time frame you mention for each of the past 11 years and will be there again next month. There has always been plenty of women to get with each and every time. Less dudes and less tourists overall, but I'm not there to meet and mingle with dudes and tourists so I find May to be very favorable. That being said, it has been my experience that there are plenty of women each and every month out of the year. Unless you have local girlfriends or amigas with benefits, I wouldn't be keen on being there from say Dec 23 - Jan 10th or so, nor this week / weekend (Easter); although given the high number of Venezuelan chicas in Cartagena who won't be going home for Semana Santa, there will be more women around this week than the pre-Venezuelan influx days.
Taxis are abundant in Bocagrande and it is safe to grab a licensed taxi off the street there. The minimum fare during the day before 9 pm and after 5 am is 7 mil pesos. While there's a 500 pesos premium for 9 pm to 5 am, they'll round up 1 mill, so it becomes 8 mil..[/QUOTE]Okay much appreciated! Another question, I'll try to learn some Spanish but is there some list here for common phrases to use when negotiating with a girl, making sure she knows exactly what I want?