Kyiv

[QUOTE=Anand636; 1200430]Hi Friends.

Using the condom that I always carry, we did a very good doggy, her thrusting to get in as deep as possible was a real turn-on.[/QUOTE]Thank you for your report. Nice girl, and equally misplaced in this thread. .

Does this condom not impose problems for you in various daily situations? Seems to be a well used piece of rubber that you are carrying around.

All the best from Barba

[QUOTE=Joe Tnb; 1200374]Does anyone know what append to the vodka escort website?

Vodkaescort. Com[/QUOTE]It looks like hackers have hit the vodkaescort website. I have sent them an email to see what's up. They were supposed to be lining up some dates for me for my upcoming trip October 10. 16. So we'll see if they respond. Interestingly, I have noticed that they have been setting up additional websites under different names but marketing some of the same girls. Maybe they are changing formats. We'll see. I will post any info that is reliable that becomes available.

LJ

[QUOTE=Muddy7; 1199900]Forget hotels, apartments are definitely better.

Just make sure it has water heater so you have warm water for shower AND internet[/QUOTE]Thanks Muddy!

Who has a bad experience to share though bringing girls to one's hotel room in Kiev?

First link I checked states there is no problem bringing girls to hotels in Kiev. And I'm far from convinced with the quality of the apartments in the link previously posted.

[url]http://katerina.escort-site.com/hotels-in-kiev.phtml[/url]

Another escort website is not quite as enthusiastic :

"Is it possible to invite girls to the hotel?

Of course you can invite escort to your hotel room before 11. 30 pm. But be careful, there are hotels with strict rules: Kiev Hotel, Ukraine Hotel and hotel Kreshatik. Our escorts can't enter these hotels. But in other cases just meet your woman downstairs. It's also known that security in our hotels sometimes take money in such situations. You'll have to pay from $10 to $20 (100 gryvnas) to let your girl in without problems."

Any feedback on The Intercontinental or other 5 stars?

[QUOTE=Luis1; 1201386]Another escort website is not quite as enthusiastic :

"Is it possible to invite girls to the hotel?

Of course you can invite escort to your hotel room before 11. 30 pm. But be careful, there are hotels with strict rules: Kiev Hotel, Ukraine Hotel and hotel Kreshatik. Our escorts can't enter these hotels. But in other cases just meet your woman downstairs. It's also known that security in our hotels sometimes take money in such situations. You'll have to pay from $10 to $20 (100 gryvnas) to let your girl in without problems."

Any feedback on The Intercontinental or other 5 stars?[/QUOTE]I had no problems bringing back girls to the Opera Hotel

Didn't have to pay security any money at all.

Best to get an apartment

[QUOTE=Liljoey; 1200565]It looks like hackers have hit the vodkaescort website. I have sent them an email to see what's up. They were supposed to be lining up some dates for me for my upcoming trip October 10. 16. So we'll see if they respond. Interestingly, I have noticed that they have been setting up additional websites under different names but marketing some of the same girls. Maybe they are changing formats. We'll see. I will post any info that is reliable that becomes available.

LJ[/QUOTE]Liljoey,

Can you send me the links?

Hi everybody,

Firts time in Kiev next week and I would like to try an erotic massage.

Can you suggest the best salons?

I have heard of Salon Dolly and Rakuena.

Any direct experience with them?

Any tricks to get better service?

Thanks in advance boys!

UltraFlap

Doll ydoes it all.

And do not chose pretty, but friendly.

And consider taking the risk of tipping before.

And no expect "extras"

[QUOTE=UltraFlap; 1201834]Hi everybody,

Firts time in Kiev next week and I would like to try an erotic massage.

Can you suggest the best salons?

I have heard of Salon Dolly and Rakuena.

Any direct experience with them?

Any tricks to get better service?

Thanks in advance boys!

UltraFlap[/QUOTE]

Everybody here is talking about Rio but very few words about Mint Rhinoceros strip club

Bad experiences there or just a waste of time?

Thanks

I just noticed that Miss Ukraine had been chosen as the first runner up at the Miss Universe pageant held a few weeks ago in Brazil.

http://www.missuniverse.com/members/profile/599577/year:2011

I also noticed that there was only one blonde in the top 10. Are they weak in Q&A?

[QUOTE=Joe Tnb; 1201407]Liljoey,

Can you send me the links?[/QUOTE]Joe Tnb:

The website problem has been fixed. The link is [url]www.vodkaescort.com[/url]. However still no answer from them to my email of several days ago. I guess we'll see if they are functioning by the time of my arrival in Kiev on October 10 and the girls I was interested in are available.

UltraFlap:

Check out posts by TheKnight about the pros / cons of various strip clubs posted some time back. Rio is being spoken about because they have a lower take out price than the other places that have take out, and the Rhino clubs didn't have take out as an option. If you're just interested in a strip club for dances, then Rhino has hot girls. But if you want the chance to take a girl back to your apartment / hotel for sex, you need to go to a strip club that has that possibility of take out. Get with it, man. You have to read the forum. Go back and start reading from at least as far back as March of this year. You'll get the whole picture.

LJ

[QUOTE=Liljoey; 1195532]Dear Roll Buzz,

I will address your interest in Linda at Mamba. Ru below.

So with regard to this girl, being cheery early in the day is not her strong point. Beware of the limitations she imposed on services, and if you want more services than a quick covered BJ and a fuck, get them cleared with the lady who answers the phone in English as to what you expect in terms of services, so that the girl will have been told in advance what is expected, as she speaks no English.

LJ[/QUOTE]Good day gentleman. It's my first post here and I thought I'd kick off with a reference to the above mentioned Linda. But before I do. A quick intro to me. I am an expat resident in Kiev and I tend to go through periods of dating freebies, a bit of p4p and just generally mixing it up. P4P when I'm horny and alone. Freebies when I don't mind playing the long game.

A week or so back. 6 or 7am, I'm back at my place after a night out on my own, trolling a few places in the centre. Wasted too much time chatting to a girl in Rio, and ended up taxiing it home alone and logging in to Mamba.

I called the number that I got from messaging Linda's profile and spoke to a women with good English. Usual story. "I'll call you when I'm downstairs". Etc etc. Can you pay for my taxi? Blah.

So, a mere 30 minutes later, Linda is downstairs in a cab. I go down and check her out. Nice enough looking girl, so I pay the fare and she comes up. But, as soon as I pay, I realise my mistake. She's got the demeanor of a particularly melancholy undertaker and the smile to go with it. She would have come across as more friendly if she'd just eaten a kilo of rancid gooseberries, so she didn't make it as far as my apartment before I sent her home. I just got a feeling of contempt from this girl. Undisguised. I don't think it matters what time of day it is. She's just not the smiley, happy, touchy feely type.

A thought on using Mamba: Next to a girl's profile, there's a "reply bar" a coloured bar which shows the frequency at which the person in the profile responds to messages. Green, for high response, red for very low and yellow and orange in between. If a girl is offering p4p and her profile has a green bar (high response) , chances are it's an agency. On the other hand, if she has a very low response rate, she's more likely to be genuinely independent (low response rate is also indicative of an older profile, and less likely to be one of those frequently changed agency bait and switch profiles) , and quite possibly the girl in photos. Of course, it's only a rough guide, but it helps me choose who to write to.

Another thing I do is Google the telephone number the "independent" girl sends me. It's important to retype the whole number, because they disguise the number by using different characters for numbers to supposedly fool the website's mods. Also, search the number without the country code. Just begin with 0. This number search will often show some kind of escort web site contact number, along with photos of several girls, none of whom is the girl you thought you were exchanging messages with. Of course, just because the number doesn't show any results, doesn't mean it isn't an agency, but it helps to eliminate the definite agencies.

[QUOTE=Ticking Timebomb; 1202408]Good day gentleman. It's my first post here and I thought I'd kick off with a reference to the above mentioned Linda. But before I do. A quick intro to me. I am an expat resident in Kiev and I tend to go through periods of dating freebies, a bit of p4p and just generally mixing it up. P4P when I'm horny and alone. Freebies when I don't mind playing the long game.

A week or so back. 6 or 7am, I'm back at my place after a night out on my own, trolling a few places in the centre. Wasted too much time chatting to a girl in Rio, and ended up taxiing it home alone and logging in to Mamba.

I called the number that I got from messaging Linda's profile and spoke to a women with good English. Usual story."I'll call you when I'm downstairs". Etc etc. Can you pay for my taxi? Blah.

So, a mere 30 minutes later, Linda is downstairs in a cab. I go down and check her out. Nice enough looking girl, so I pay the fare and she comes up. But, as soon as I pay, I realise my mistake. She's got the demeanor of a particularly melancholy undertaker and the smile to go with it. She would have come across as more friendly if she'd just eaten a kilo of rancid gooseberries, so she didn't make it as far as my apartment before I sent her home. I just got a feeling of contempt from this girl. Undisguised. I don't think it matters what time of day it is. She's just not the smiley, happy, touchy feely type.

A thought on using Mamba: Next to a girl's profile, there's a "reply bar" a coloured bar which shows the frequency at which the person in the profile responds to messages. Green, for high response, red for very low and yellow and orange in between. If a girl is offering p4p and her profile has a green bar (high response) , chances are it's an agency. On the other hand, if she has a very low response rate, she's more likely to be genuinely independent (low response rate is also indicative of an older profile, and less likely to be one of those frequently changed agency bait and switch profiles) , and quite possibly the girl in photos. Of course, it's only a rough guide, but it helps me choose who to write to.

Another thing I do is Google the telephone number the "independent" girl sends me. It's important to retype the whole number, because they disguise the number by using different characters for numbers to supposedly fool the website's mods. Also, search the number without the country code. Just begin with 0. This number search will often show some kind of escort web site contact number, along with photos of several girls, none of whom is the girl you thought you were exchanging messages with. Of course, just because the number doesn't show any results, doesn't mean it isn't an agency, but it helps to eliminate the definite agencies.[/QUOTE]TickingTimebomb, what is it about my description of Linda's demeanor that you didn't get when you read it? Here's what I wrote:

[QUOTE=Liljoey; 1195532][email]LINDA@MAMBA.[/email]

For your benefit, since you are intending to contact her, I will include some additional details, which are worthwhile for you to know in advance.

Here is her link so the guys can understand who we're talking about:

[url]http://www.mamba.ru/lindavasina/?afolder=albums[/url]

Although the lady I spoke to on the phone as "Linda" spoke English well, the girl who came had no English skills. But I have taken another look at her photos on the mamba. Ru site, and I retract what I wrote. I now believe the pictures are true. It is just that in the pictures the girl appears a bit shorter than the taller slender girl I saw. But that could be the result of moving the edges of a photo during editing without maintaining the same length / width proportions, which could account for her more squat appearance in the photos. But looking at the face, I can see that it was the same face. Her hair was not down and flowing nicely as in the photos, but rather wrapped in some sort of wraparound headress which made her look like a cleaning lady (my first impression). But as I looked at her, I could see her body was ok, and her facial features cute, and I was quite horny at that point a few hours after getting home from Rio empty-handed.

But here is the part I didn't write about before. It concerns her demeanor. When she arrived she acted very hesitant, and was looking down at the ground like a little girl who was just scolded. I tried to make small talk and put her at ease in the apartment, but in the whole time she would not raise her eyes to look at me. I found her behavior weird. She looked distracted and irritated. I asked her if she wanted to go. She said no, she will stay. I asked if anything was wrong. She said no she just didn't want to get up that early from bed to come at 10:30am. I asked her if she was up the whole night and what time she normally gets up. She said she gets up around 2pm. However, even though her story was that she was just cranky because she was tired, it didn't add up to her behavior which seemed like she was resentful of something, or perhaps ashamed. Maybe she didn't want to be doing this work and was conflicted about it because she wanted the money. I tried to imagine reasons that would match her behavior. Anyway, I tried to put her at ease by being as sweet to her as I can be. But as a precaution to this whole thing blowing up, when she asked for the 600 UAH up front, I said that I will agree to place it on the table for her to take only when she leaves. She agreed to that. She refused to permit DATY. She refused to do a BBBJ, and wanted only covered BJ. She didn't want BBBJ, even for more money. So I had her lay next to me and start with a hand job using some lubricant. Then when I was ready she took the condom and put it on me and started a covered BJ which looked nice to watch, but was short-lived as I had feared might be the case with her. She stopped doing the BJ after a short time and looked at me as if to say, now we have sex? Rolling with the flow, I didn't complain because I thought she might not complete the session, so I fucked her, but not a quick fuck, in order to make up for the shortness of the BJ, and finally she was getting into it and smiling. At the end she said she could come back tomorrow. I asked tomorrow you let me kiss your pussy? She smiled and nodded "yes".

So with regard to this girl, being cheery early in the day is not her strong point. Beware of the limitations she imposed on services, and if you want more services than a quick covered BJ and a fuck, get them cleared with the lady who answers the phone in English as to what you expect in terms of services, so that the girl will have been told in advance what is expected, as she speaks no English.

LJ[/QUOTE]I laughed my head off at your descriptions of her demeanor. It's true. That's how she comes off at first. But I also wrote the solution. You have to look past her demeanor, sweet talk her until you get your dick inside her, and then fuck her real good! Then she smiles___LOL.

LJ

[QUOTE=Liljoey; 1202697]TickingTimebomb, what is it about my description of Linda's demeanor that you didn't get when you read it? Here's what I wrote:

LJ[/QUOTE]I didn't make the connection between her and your report, until it suddenly (when I met her and connected the name) clicked that you'd written about this little bundle of happiness and joy. I could have persevered but. I just wasn't in the mood for some grumpy assed chick making me feel unwelcome in my own apartment.