Manila

[QUOTE=Run Mann;1248801]She should probably want to know what to tell customs or immigration at the arrival point more than the departure wouldn't she?[/QUOTE]No, departure is the key. Going through Philippine Immigration is the hard part. After Philippine Immigration busted some guys actively moving girls from AC Bars to other points in Asia to ply there trade at increased prices. All points of departure for destinations in SEA are on the list for increased scrutiny, with AC and Manila being the hardest to depart for obvious reasons.

Single young girls (not married) travelling alone have the hardest time to get out of the Philippines without supporting documents like work visa, letter writen by family members who live in her chosen destination, copy of death certificate of family member recently deceased in her chosen destination. In other words a good reason for going. If for whatever reason the Immigration officer thinks the girl might be taking the trip for sex purposes she will be flagged and pulled aside. In the office she will undergo more serious questioning and if her story doesn't add up they will refuse to allow her to leave the Philippines and her name could be entered into an Immigration watch list that will raise red flags should she try to depart the Philippines from another airport.

Philippine Immigration will ask key questions like, her work and education status in the Philippines, reason for the trip, proof who payed for the flight, proof of her hotel booking and if she will not stay in a hotel a letter signed by a family member stating she will stay at there residence at X street for x number of days. If the woman is under the age of 23 and travelling alone Immigration could request a signed letter of consent by her parents that they know about her trip and approve. This same letter of approval is requested when a woman under 23 gets married away from her birthplace area and thus away from her close family.

The appearance of the girl also matters. If she looks like a bargirl forget about it. If she seems somewhat conservative and Hi-so that's her best chance to pass Immigration without incident but that will depend on her answers and documents.

Also guys departing the Philippines for destinations in other SEA countries with younger Philippine girls face increased resistance since the bargirl export ring was exposed. Travelling with sex toys in your bag and porn on your laptop is not a smart move if travelling together. The male traveller will also face more serious questioning and if the Immigration officials do not like the answers the girl can be denied departure and the guy can be placed on a watch list.

If the girl is allowed to leave, entry into her Country of destination is not guaranteed and she will again have to face a few questions but the hard part is being allowed to board the plane. Also another tip is to purchase her a round trip ticket with the same airline. That takes the obligation off the airline to make sure she has a confirmed return ticket.

[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1248849]Length of stay doesn't matter FF.

My friend (in HK) tried to fly his filipina to HK 3 weeks ago for a weekend out of T3 using Cebu Pacific. She was travelling alone.

Immigration grilled her why she was going. She didn't have any letters of guarantee from her "sponsor". They asked her how much cash she was carrying. She didn't have much (2000 php).

They refused her boarding. They were not reassured that she was going for legitimate reasons nor that she had sufficient funds to pay her way in case her "sponsor" dipped out.

Be careful that you don't blow the funds on a ticket. My friend did.

If you go through with it: Give her a letter that details who you are and why and where she is going (you don't have to include "your bedroom and to screw my brains out" LOL). I also suggest you tell her to dress conservatively, and make sure she has a fair load of cash.[/QUOTE]Yes, she has the hotel resvn letter, she has the letter from her auntie, she has the story and has practiced it. She has has the conservative dress, flat shoes and glasses (looks like a real nerd even if hottest thing I ever played with) But hey, nothing ventured nothing gained. One low cost ticket on cebu pac lost isn't the end of the world.

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1248860]No, departure is the key. Going through Philippine Immigration is the hard part. After Philippine Immigration busted some guys actively moving girls from AC Bars to other points in Asia to ply there trade at increased prices. All points of departure for destinations in SEA are on the list for increased scrutiny, with AC and Manila being the hardest to depart for obvious reasons.

Single young girls (not married) travelling alone have the hardest time to get out of the Philippines without supporting documents like work visa, letter writen by family members who live in her chosen destination, copy of death certificate of family member recently deceased in her chosen destination. In other words a good reason for going. If for whatever reason the Immigration officer thinks the girl might be taking the trip for sex purposes she will be flagged and pulled aside. In the office she will undergo more serious questioning and if her story doesn't add up they will refuse to allow her to leave the Philippines and her name could be entered into an Immigration watch list that will raise red flags should she try to depart the Philippines from another airport.

Philippine Immigration will ask key questions like, her work and education status in the Philippines, reason for the trip, proof who payed for the flight, proof of her hotel booking and if she will not stay in a hotel a letter signed by a family member stating she will stay at there residence at X street for x number of days. If the woman is under the age of 23 and travelling alone Immigration could request a signed letter of consent by her parents that they know about her trip and approve. This same letter of approval is requested when a woman under 23 gets married away from her birthplace area and thus away from her close family.

The appearance of the girl also matters. If she looks like a bargirl forget about it. If she seems somewhat conservative and Hi-so that's her best chance to pass Immigration without incident but that will depend on her answers and documents.

Also guys departing the Philippines for destinations in other SEA countries with younger Philippine girls face increased resistance since the bargirl export ring was exposed. Travelling with sex toys in your bag and porn on your laptop is not a smart move if travelling together. The male traveller will also face more serious questioning and if the Immigration officials do not like the answers the girl can be denied departure and the guy can be placed on a watch list.

If the girl is allowed to leave, entry into her Country of destination is not guaranteed and she will again have to face a few questions but the hard part is being allowed to board the plane. Also another tip is to purchase her a round trip ticket with the same airline. That takes the obligation off the airline to make sure she has a confirmed return ticket.[/QUOTE]Thanks Stroker to you and the others. Wel will see how it goes.

I've done a lot of this already but some new points here I hadn't thought of. Its been so much easier to take an Indonesian or Thai out of their country.

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1248860]No, departure is the key. [/QUOTE]

If departure is the key, I say arrival is the lock and key because unless she is travelling to maybe Thailand, the immigration officer at the arrival port will be just as if not more interested in her reasons for coming into their port. I've seen Filipinas rejected in droves at Incheon and some at Narita so I say she should focus on a solid story to in order to gain entry but many do get in so if you purchase a refundable ticket you have little to lose.

[QUOTE=Run Mann;1248876]If departure is the key, I say arrival is the lock and key because unless she is travelling to maybe Thailand, the immigration officer at the arrival port will be just as if not more interested in her reasons for coming into their port. I've seen Filipinas rejected in droves at Incheon and some at Narita so I say she should focus on a solid story to in order to gain entry but many do get in so if you purchase a refundable ticket you have little to lose.[/QUOTE]You might be correct in your assessment of other ports RM but Stroker Ace and I know more about the Philippines and we both know for reasons already canvassed that it is not easy getting OUT of the Philippines if you are a young, single Filipina.

To FF. Well done mate. You have schooled her well (as you so often do LOL).

I also agree: Nothing ventured nothing gained. She may well sail through with nary a problem.

But your initial post did not indicate that you had done all this homework so Stroker Ace and I leapt to your assistance (but looks like you didn't really need our ideas after all)

[QUOTE=Bnlee2;1248852]If you give a load of cash for the trip, she may call and tell you that she needs to go back home to tend a sick family member. When she returns in a few weeks, she will tell you that she spent the money on the sick family member and ask you for another load of cash to get on the plane to meet you. I would never trust a poor filipina gal with a load of cash. Too many temptation.[/QUOTE]Having known this lady for a year or two since she was 19, and having only ONCE been asked in that time for a P1500 WU help I think I'm quite quite quite ok with this one. Heck, she even paid for dinner and drinks on my birthday! Been visiting Phils for 28 years now, as well as have lived there. By now, my instincts are pretty well honed as to who I can and can't trust. But yes, for some of these ladies, cash in pocket might well be a big temptation.

But didn't know where else to post this.

One current gf and I were chatting the other day about interesting non standard sexual stuff such as "dogging " (which for our non English brothers here is where man and woman fuck in car and others, who may have been out walking their dogs, hence the name, enjoy watching and fisting.

Given that dogging is never going to be much of a sport in puritanical Philippines, I wanted to ask if members here have tried fisting their honeys.

And then if did, how long did it take to gain full entrance, did the girl enjoy, was it something you might recommend as an activity etc. Any thought from fisting experts would be appreciated.

[QUOTE=Sir Lancelot;1248675]Thanks for this Sugoi. I may check it out. I like sipping a beer while checking out fishbowls. If only Manila had massage parlours like Bangkok or Jakarta (Nataree and Hotel Classic respectively).[/QUOTE]Just ask the guy for a beer and they'll get you one. One other thing about Starfleet is that on the Presidential level (the one with the soapy massage) , you leave your shoes and the guys will shine them for you. When you're done they put your socks and shoes on for you also.

Red Kilt, I'the like to add something here if it is ok with you. I went through twice and, the first time, the girl told exactly what happened, and the second time, I was prepared:

The immigration WILL NOT allow these girls to travel by themselves, especially if they are traveling alone. They usually let them travel if certain questions are answered appropriately.

1. They (immigration) will ask where they are going, and where they are staying. Make sure they have a copy of the hotel booking. Send her a copy of the booking. But guys, if you don't want your personal information known, edit the booking document before you email it off. Use Adobe Pro, or something similar and change the info, like your phone number, delete out credit card info, etc. Etc. For those non-techies, the oldies but goodies, use white out, scan and email. I edited it in such a way that it had fake address, phone number, and initialized my last name.

2. They will ask if she has met this person. Response – make sure you prepare the girl. Tell her to tell the officers that she has known you two years or three years, and that you have met couple of time in Phillipines (remember in Phillipines with some detail).

3. And yes, red Kilt is right, dress conservatively, preferably to look older and mature. Don't get her dress sexy so you can see her at the airport.

4. Send an invitation letter, just like red says, describing how long you know this girl. Etc. Etc.

5. Full travel plans, date of return, with return ticket.

6. Maybe send your travel itenary. I did this, again edit out any sensitive info.

7. Remember, if you book your ticket, especially with Cebu Pacific, you cannot get a refund. When canceling the flight, cancel before the day of the trip, then you can get a credit, but also remember the credit will under the name of the traveler, not under the name of the purchaser. Once you commit, kiss this money good bye.

8. Add all this money up, maybe it might be wiser to just trying to get a chick in HK, though I am not trying to discourage you. I did get the chick down to HK, and with those nice hotels, and with her sort of trapped with me, made full use of the viagra.

9. But again, being a realist, chances are 50/50 that the lass would be able to board the flight. So, be prepared to lose that money.

Good luck.

Cool Traveler.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1248917]But didn't know where else to post this.

One current gf and I were chatting the other day about interesting non standard sexual stuff such as "dogging " (which for our non English brothers here is where man and woman fuck in car and others, who may have been out walking their dogs, hence the name, enjoy watching and fisting.

Given that dogging is never going to be much of a sport in puritanical Philippines, I wanted to ask if members here have tried fisting their honeys.

And then if did, how long did it take to gain full entrance, did the girl enjoy, was it something you might recommend as an activity etc. Any thought from fisting experts would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]I've had two former gf's in the States who I fisted. Both girls had never done it before. It takes weeks (if not months) of practice (at twice / week) to get inside fully. Like learning to deep throat (overcoming the gag reflex) , it takes considerable time and effort. It can also be quite rewarding once its occurred and a regular thing.

"Immigration grilled her why she was going. She didn't have any letters of guarantee from her "sponsor". They asked her how much cash she was carrying. She didn't have much (2000 php)."

Anna from Beeline Travel told me my girlfriend had to have $500 US in cash with her as well as a hotel payment receipt in her name (as well as mine). She is a university student with a very educated demeanor. But cash is king, as they say.

Longtime fan, first time post.

I have been going back and forth to the Philippines now for the last 2 years, spending close to 120 days while I setup a business.

Anyways, I haven't seen too many reports on Air Force One, so I might as well put up the latest and greatest.

I always hit Air Force One once a trip, and it was my very first KTV experience. I can say that two years ago. This place was untouchable in terms of quality, service, selection of girls, food, drink, amenities. My last two trips were in November 2011 and January 2012. Prior to those last two trips it was March 2011.

I can say.what a difference. I think they are going through their down cycle. I can no longer call this the best. Their show up in January was weak. Not a whole lot of 9s / 10s as I'm used to. Just a bunch of 7s and definitely not worth the price they were trying to extort.

The only saving grace has been their Sexy Spotlight Girls. THere are a handful, and they command high prices (1k per hour as a companion) but very much worth it. These 7 or 9 girls could be the cover of FHM any given day.

The place opens up at 6 which has a happy hour.but save your money. The stunners don't show up until 8. Stays open until 4AM. But Closed on Sundays. You will be helped by GRM, or manager or mamasan. Whichever you choose to call her. Her job is to sell you a room ASAP. You can sit at the bar, or sit in one of the booths in the public area. The booths are 800 pesos with consumable, the private rooms start at 3k for a small one. About you and two other buddies and their girls, or 5k for larger. I have not needed anything larger than the 5k, so I don't know about the Obama suite, or price of that one.

If you are flying solo. The best bet is to get the booth, get a showup, pick your girl, chat and drink for a few minutes and pull the trigger or let her go.

They have three tiers of GROs which start at 800/900/1000 per hour to sit with you. If you want to come in and take a girl out ASAP you are still going to have to pay for a two hour minimum on top of the release. Depending on your girl it could cost you 9k. 11k. 13k for the top of the line to take her out and have her spend the night with you.

If you don't feel like spending that much cash, or taking her home, you can do the deed then and there. I got a 2nd tier girl and she cost 3. 5k and theyll try and sell you one of hte KTV rooms, I recommend against it and take her to one of the rooms at FLight 168. Its 3. 5k for her, plus the room at 168 which is 3. 5k as well. The 168 rooms have showers and amenities, everything you need. Just bring your own condom. There is no real time limit, at least in my experience. So enjoy. But know that you are still paying for her hourly while you are with her. So keep that in mind.

I would recommend AF1 if you really are willing to pay the price, at least get a beer and maybe a showup. But as of last time, unless you are getting the spotlight girls. Don't bother.

[QUOTE=Red Kilt;1248580]It comes in a box of 5 tabs. One box of 5 tablets of 100 mg each costs 1660 pesos (332 php each). Apparently 50 mg tabs are available too for the [B]same price[/B] but my friendly chemist told me that it is cheaper to buy the 100 mg and bite them in half or even 1/4 if you just need a "leg-up". So you could say it is 10 x 50 mg tabs at 166 pesos each. As I said - still not cheap but less expensive than real V and you know it is legit and not street stuff. *sorry about the flash in the photo - I am not as skilled as WC or CS with picture taking lol.[/QUOTE]Thanks RK.

Any of you guys ever heard of a Cialis type gel being available? I would love to try that.

[QUOTE=Lalake; 1249595]Thanks RK.

Any of you guys ever heard of a Cialis type gel being available? I would love to try that.[/QUOTE]It is bitter and VERY effective. I took it a few times in Thailand. Never did see it in the Philippines, but then again I am normally in the south so perhaps it reached Manila.

Barba

[QUOTE=Lalake; 1249595]Thanks RK.

Any of you guys ever heard of a Cialis type gel being available? I would love to try that.[/QUOTE]Yes I bought some at a bar in BKK, Lalake, so I assume it is available elsewhere. It works even better and faster than the pill. Don't eat the whole pack, though, or you will get a bad headache. At least that's what happened to me. A whopping uncontrollable purple pulsating heat seeking missile within minutes, however! Hahah