Kyiv

Thanks for the tip T_T. I thought I was as bit of a Mamba pro (having had an array of good, average and awful experiences from the P2P profiles there) , but I'd never considered the reply rate. Will definitely bear it in mind when I'm back in town at the end of the month.

As for sending her away before she got to the apartment, probably the right move, if she can't be bothered to fake civility at the door, I doubt she'll fake much better in the sack = dead fish.

[QUOTE=Liljoey; 1202336]Joe Tnb:

The website problem has been fixed. The link is.

[url]www.vodkaescort.com[/url]

However still no answer from them to my email of several days ago. I guess we'll see if they are functioning by the time of my arrival in Kiev on October 10 and the girls I was interested in are available.

UltraFlap:

Check out posts by TheKnight about the pros / cons of various strip clubs posted some time back. Rio is being spoken about because they have a lower take out price than the other places that have take out, and the Rhino clubs didn't have take out as an option. If you're just interested in a strip club for dances, then Rhino has hot girls. But if you want the chance to take a girl back to your apartment / hotel for sex, you need to go to a strip club that has that possibility of take out. Get with it, man. You have to read the forum. Go back and start reading from at least as far back as March of this year. You'll get the whole picture.

LJ[/QUOTE]Thanks for the observations. I have used them repeatedly. While their girls generally look like on the pics and are reasonable enthusiastic, their customer response is at times very slow or even non existent. Do not know why as they should take care of their customers.

[QUOTE=Ticking Timebomb;1202770]I didn't make the connection between her and your report, until it suddenly (when I met her and connected the name) clicked that you'd written about this little bundle of happiness and joy. I could have persevered but. I just wasn't in the mood for some grumpy assed chick making me feel unwelcome in my own apartment.[/QUOTE]Of course you made the correct decision in sending her away, since her services are limited, and there is no guarantee of her warming to you after you get inside her pants. Had I not been so horny from spending the entire night at Rio and then coming home from there empty-handed, I would have sent her away also.

Keep writing! I appreciated your ability to turn a phrase.

LJ

yes, the supermarket is a dangerous place to shop when the juices are flowing, but the alternative is having a wank and. well what's the point? when you wank, you fantasize about having sex with a woman or three. of course, some of you may have kinkier fantasies deposited in the wank bank, but my point is if i'm sitting in front of my pc late at night, well the ease and speed at which i can have a non-pixel girl round at my gaff. it's just too tempting.

so, from time to time, i have had some interesting "blind dates" show up. the one who brought her sister, ('my good friend') was definitely a highlight. this was a genuine, non-salon, real photo hook-up. sometimes you get lucky. sometimes you get more than you bargained for.

a few nights back is an example. 6am, home from unfruitful wanderings (it's ironic that i'm so picky when i'm out on the town but end up playing pot luck with mamba) and i called an obvious agency ad on mamba. a girl showed up a bit later than promised and came into my flat, started flirting, devoured a load of cognac and dragged me off to the bedroom. we had a drunken and prolonged shagathon. she drank more cognac and passed out. i was knackered by that point anyway (noon) and fit to zonk out. the agency kept ringing her mobile (she'the already stalled them a load of times when she was awake – an enthusiastic bed partner) , so i finally answered it and told the guy (yeah, guy) on the other end that she was crashed out. we shared a laugh about it and he asked me if she was "good girl". well, i wasn't quite sure how i should inerpret "good girl" considering the circumstances and what we'd just been up to and that she'd probably not fit into most people's "good girl" stereotype. but i'm not most people. i assured him that she was a "good girl" and we wished each other good night. i was just about to roll over and get some sleep when she started pissing herself. no, not laughing. actually pissing my bed. i was like,"fuck!" i tried to move her, wake her up get her to stop or at least run to the frigging bathroom, but she was in the sleep of the very drunk. so i had no choice but to leave her there. the next day's laundry was fun.

she finally left at 3 in the afternoon. i didn't tell her about the bed wetting incident. what would be the point? total cost – 2 [email]hours@600[/email] uah per hour. total time in my flat – 8 hours (of which 4 or 5 were with our eyes open). she gave bbbj, anal and just about anything else we could dream up between us.

so, this is me paying back for all those useful (sometimes confusing) reports that i've read here. also, i think a list of mamba tips would be useful on this forum. dos and don'ts etc.

t-t

On my first Mongering trip to KIEV, I got hold of the English daily Paper Kyiv, Kiev Post, and under the personal section there were quite few ads for Agencies, Salons, aka Brothels and many independent girls.

Tried calling few of them and every single number that I called was answered and in Good English.

Thought I dip my toes in the Waters of one called Marina, who seemed very friendly and fluent in English. The girl who showed up was a real Cracker, a Tatar girl.

She was a young student very good English and great in the Sack, no rush.

I paid from memory about US$ 80.

Apparantely Kiev Post is used by quite few students in Kiev to Brush up on the Language & 2 earn much needed US$$. Prices comparable 2 Mamba & others, but the chances of nailing newbies& semi Pros were much higher.

Also I was told by another that they prefer meeting men through the Paper, because its a better type of Monger 2 meet than some on Mamba, who called them Weirdos.

I did post on my Experience with Kiev Post, but my Joy Killer at the time (UK e Boy) promptly replied that I should hold on to that copy pf the paper (I listened to him on this) because a Pakistani Businessman has just bought the paper and the first thing that he was going 2 do with the paper, is 2 ban the Personal ads for Sex there.

Of course there were no photos published, but I just relied on my hunch when I spoke with them on the Phone.

I figured if they are not 2 expectations, then just a friendly goodbye + taxi Money.

Hate to send away a girl empty handed + I wanted 2 keep an friendly contact just in case the girl was working 4 an agency. This way I keep bridges open with them 4 future contacts.

Anyone here used Kiev Post (Freely Availabe in the Lobby of Upmarket Hotels) , or was it just me who tried it?

[QUOTE=Nmlfree; 1200031]I was a little bit tired of Rio so I decided to buy some dress clothes to get into the nightclubs. I went to Buddha bar first and yeah they were a lot of working girls but none of them looked attractive to me so didn't even bother asking prices. I left then for D-Lux which is pretty close, it was super crowded. I heard there were a lot of hookers in there, but I don't know if I'm stupid or what, but I didn't recognize any. Also was not impressed by the beauty of the regular girls. I see way more beautifuls girls on a day street walking on Kreschatyk. One 8 told something to me, I don't know if she was a hooker or not, probably not. I told her I didn't speak Russian and she left with a disappointed face.

So overall not v good experience.

What would you recommend to find 9's. 10's working girls or not? Many girls recommended me Dante so I'm planning to go there tomorrow, are there any WG's there? In my way back I went to Arena but I was kind of confused as where to go as the place is so huge. Anyone recommend this place?

Thanks, [/QUOTE]What would you recommend to find 9's. 10's working girls or not?

[QUOTE=Jony B;1204249]What would you recommend to find 9's. 10's working girls or not?[/QUOTE]You mean where?

At modeling agencies or Petter Hegre's apartment in Kiev.

I checked two numbers of agencies in top-modals, and all pictures as well as services advertised are bogus so don't get overexcited with the "Real Photo" mention. Luckily it becomes clear on the phone so one doesn't need to waste time and money any further.

[url]http://www.top-modals.com/?q=0985448444[/url]

None of the girls in pictures are available, girls available offer no anal and only CBJ.

[url]http://www.top-modals.com/?q=0987804343[/url]

Same story

[QUOTE=Sorbonne; 1204305]You mean where?

At modeling agencies or Petter Hegre's apartment in Kiev.[/QUOTE]Thank you for your response.

This is not my question but Nmlfree's.

I think he means such as night club, disco and strip club. Etc.

He says he visited Rio, Buddha bar and D-Lux but could not find any 9's or 10's working girls there.

OK. I have tried Mamba contacts again. 50% sucess rate:

1. I have never seen such ugly fat girlfriends piled in an apartment for the first try (4 girlfriends in an apartment, although this girl said to be working alone and had fake. But real. Pictures in her profile.)

2. I have never been luckier. One blonde girl, one brunette / dark. In an apartement very central. Claiming to be bisexual!

When walking into their apartment, I claimed "you are mine" to the blonde. Having the dark one starting a catfight and already pushing her pussy into the blonde's face in the livingroom.

Proceeded to bedroom after shower. Double (deep) blowjob. 69, licking, girls eating each other, playing with dildo ect. Spend the nicest two hours with two girls for two hundred ($) coming two times and having each one come once (making two again)! I did not come into the blondes mouth since the dark was quicker twice. But they kissed after I came and my cum somehow disappeared in our mouths.

Will post fotos when I come to it.

[QUOTE=Jojosun; 1203162]On my first Mongering trip to KIEV, I got hold of the English daily Paper Kyiv, Kiev Post, and under the personal section there were quite few ads for Agencies, Salons, aka Brothels and many independent girls.

Tried calling few of them and every single number that I called was answered and in Good English.

Thought I dip my toes in the Waters of one called Marina, who seemed very friendly and fluent in English. The girl who showed up was a real Cracker, a Tatar girl.

She was a young student very good English and great in the Sack, no rush.

I paid from memory about US$ 80.

Apparantely Kiev Post is used by quite few students in Kiev to Brush up on the Language & 2 earn much needed US$$. Prices comparable 2 Mamba & others, but the chances of nailing newbies& semi Pros were much higher.

Also I was told by another that they prefer meeting men through the Paper, because its a better type of Monger 2 meet than some on Mamba, who called them Weirdos.

I did post on my Experience with Kiev Post, but my Joy Killer at the time (UK e Boy) promptly replied that I should hold on to that copy pf the paper (I listened to him on this) because a Pakistani Businessman has just bought the paper and the first thing that he was going 2 do with the paper, is 2 ban the Personal ads for Sex there.

Of course there were no photos published, but I just relied on my hunch when I spoke with them on the Phone.

I figured if they are not 2 expectations, then just a friendly goodbye + taxi Money.

Hate to send away a girl empty handed + I wanted 2 keep an friendly contact just in case the girl was working 4 an agency. This way I keep bridges open with them 4 future contacts.

Anyone here used Kiev Post (Freely Availabe in the Lobby of Upmarket Hotels) , or was it just me who tried it?[/QUOTE]Anyone in Kiev right now who could check Kiev post to find out, wether there are any ads for Sex in the Personal Section.

I can't find the Personals online when browsing Kiev post.

After reading some helpful posts (LJ and others) , I have to share my experience in Kiev.

First, I would say that I really had a good time in Kiev vs FKK Frankfurt.

Kiev's girls are much more beautiful and friendly in general.

FKK Frankfurt.

FKK girl's know how to do a blow job. The problem is most of them have a bad attitude, they can be agressive. I went with 2 girls at FKK Palace, they said they were from Hungaria, I paid 50euros for a short session, they just want you to come as quickly as possible, service 6 looks 8.

KIEV.

RIO.

Sofia: young blond hottie, nice curves and pretty face with blue eyes, service was sexy and fun, CBJ, service 8 looks 9.

Vlada: beautiful brunette, thin with nice tits, bad attitude, she will charge you more than the standard 300$/3hrs for a poor service, service 6 looks 9.

I had also dances from Nina, sexy but no take out.

Top-modals.

I've called 2 different girls with nice pictures but I refused both at the door, pictures were 9's, girls were 5-6's for looks.

Mamba

I've contacted many girls with nice pictures. 50% answered. Some just gave me prices and wanted to come to my place. For security and trying not to waste too much time, I've decided to call only the ones that I had a good chat with before meeting them.

Finally, I've met only 1 girl from mamba, a cutie with GFE service, she was so nice that I've seen her twice, a real deal at 200$ for 3hrs+, service 10 looks 8.

Clubs.

Buddha bar.

Nice bar / restaurant, I've seen 2 girls from buddha, one was good and one was bad.

#1:The first one was a cute brunette with bad english but an amazing body, small waist, big tits, soft skin. Her CBJ was the worst one I ever had but the sex was great. Service 7 looks 8.

#2:The experience with the second women was horrible. A thin blonde with nice smile and good english but with fake boobs and the worst attitude. I don't remember her name but she was with a tanned brunette sitting down in chairs, not at the bar but not too far waiting for the next fish. If you talk to her, she will tell you that she has learned her english in London, just ask her about her service and if you're not drunk, you will stay away, damage 350$/2hrs, service 4 looks 7.

DLux.

Nice club, I've seen several WGs but they were 7s so I was not interested especially at 200$/hr. Some hot girls in the club tough, I manage to spoke to a few in english, I got one number from a non- WG.

Finally, I can say that Ukrainian girls are hot, you can see many 8-9s in the streets or bars during daytime or at night. Some will talk to you, some will ignore you. Of course it is better to speak Russian if you want to get lucky but you never know, be patient and enjoy the city.

GG

I am planning to visit Kiev for vacation. All that have been there please respond as to where I can find beautiful girls or which agencies has the best looking girls. Which is better to rent an apartment or hotel?

Thanks

On the way to Kiev, I stopped in London for one night, which was profitably spent nailing Diva (Lithuanian) and Emanuela (Latvian). See the following two links.

[url]http://www.babylongirls.co.uk/diva_elite-blonde.aspx[/url]

[url]http://www.babylongirls.co.uk/emanuela_high-class-escorts.aspx[/url]

The pics of these girls are true, however photoshopped. These experiences (both full GFE incl uncovered BJ) have set a high bar for my goals in Kiev this trip. But I will be in Kiev from October 10. 15, so I will have a few more days for fun and games than I usually have at my stopovers there.

Greygoose69. Solid report. It is an accurate representation of what can happen in FKK Palace and in Kiev. The only pointers I would offer are as follows.

In FKK Palace there is an attitude amongst a number of the girls not to give over their souls and use themselves up in giving their "primo" service to guys who only want to spend 50 Euro for a half hour. They want to reserve their VIP treatment to guys who will give them at least an hour session. It was not too long before I realized that a lot of the complaints guys were making about the "Romanian women" at the FKK's had to do with this, because there is nothing that gets a Romanian going (man or woman) than a contest in which someone is trying to get the better of them. My way of having an excellent session with a Romanian woman is to let her know from the beginning that I like to take it slow and for me an hour with her is just the minimum, and I hold out the incentive that if she is really fantastic, an even longer time session just might be possible. I actually enjoy an hour session more than a half hour session, so it suits me well to take this approach. But I recognize that their are guys who want to get their business done in 30 minutes because they want to spend less, and they don't mind the limitations created by the 30 minute time limit for enjoying a session that includes DATY, BJ and various sex positions in a relaxing GFE manner. But I don't think all those sex activities can be done in 30 minutes without a very rushed feeling. So for me, an hour session is a better experience for my purposes, which seeks to experience and savor the moments of GFE time with a very hot young lady. So I take the negotiation situation and turn it around so that all of the girl's self interested motivations are directed, not toward getting the better of me in a contest of wills, but rather toward pleasing me better, and giving me more of a better time, rather than less. You get more with honey, than with vinegar, as the saying goes.

But If you don't enjoy hour sessions with very hot sexually motivated women, then when you encounter one of these girls who has disdain for the standard half hour session. Definitely do NOT session with her. PASS. Try speaking to other girls. Not every girl at Palace is like that.

OR go to FKK Oase instead, where that attitude is less prevalent.

As far as your Kiev experiences, I think you would benefit on your next trip from simply enlarging your statistical sampling of girls from mamba. Ru and from top-modals. Com. Trying only two girls is an insufficient number of attempts to really get the flavor of what's possible. Trying more girls from these sources (and other internet sites and the streets and malls and stores) , even if you have to send most away, will give you a better chance at finding the one or two girls who are hot enough to add into your little black book for daytime Kiev sexcapades, in between your mongering efforts at night in thhe clubs.

LJ

Names (profile names) of the Mamba girls would be appreciated. I think you are right not to call those who only quote price, because they probably are no privates, students, etc, but come from agencies. For such girls is better to call Gia or other agencies and discuss with operator. So, info about girls would be nice. RB.

PS but 200$ is maybe godd for a whole night?

[QUOTE=GreyGoose69; 1204834]Mamba

I've contacted many girls with nice pictures. 50% answered. Some just gave me prices and wanted to come to my place. For security and trying not to waste too much time, I've decided to call only the ones that I had a good chat with before meeting them.

Finally, I've met only 1 girl from mamba, a cutie with GFE service, she was so nice that I've seen her twice, a real deal at 200$ for 3hrs+, service 10 looks 8.

Finally, I can say that Ukrainian girls are hot, you can see many 8-9s in the streets or bars during daytime or at night. Some will talk to you, some will ignore you. Of course it is better to speak Russian if you want to get lucky but you never know, be patient and enjoy the city.

GG[/QUOTE]