American Politics

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2711299]What does January 2021 have to do with anything you? We were in a pandemic. Demand was down and drilling was down.

Typical dumb Dem. You were caught bullshitting and want to change the topic. You are never wrong about anything even when it comes to numbers. LOL.[/QUOTE]January 2021 is when Trump's horrific 2018,2019 and 2020 economic stewardship had reached its ultimate and inevitable horrific results in every element of the economy; business failures, jobs destruction, supply-chain collapses, plunging values across the board, including gas prices due to no where to drive, very little trucking going on and no interest in drilling more oil nobody can buy.

And just in time for the typical outgoing Repub hand off to the incoming Dem.

The Dem recovery from these typical Repub economic disasters, even a historically Great one like Biden's, is always always always more complicated and difficult than whatever the outgoing Repub found to destroy the economy and wipe out millions upon millions of jobs before he gets kicked out.

In Trump's case, what he found and acted on was a way to lay the groundwork for and ensure the development of Trump's Pandemic and all of it variants and economic fall out ever since.

Biden's 60%+ increase in USA oil drilling within just one year since that most horrific of all horrific Repub to Dem hand offs is a remarkable positive achievement.

LOL. You only wanted to count Trump's only good year, 2017, when he did absolutely nothing but coast on the historically positive economic trajectories he inherited from Obama-Biden and then abruptly stop noticing anything at less than half of his 4 year term.

Which of course is conveniently before all his shit legislation, crap stewarship and historic disastrous 2018,2019 and 2020 decisions came to full bloom. LOL. Nice try. But, as usual for your side, pathetic.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2711355]No defense on providing an incorrect search topic? Probably because you thought that nobody would bother to research your blather.
No defense on your "post hoc ergo propter hoc" (that's Latin by the way) usage of one thing (Hierarchy of Evidence) to "prove" something completely unrelated.
No defense about anything, really. Just BS trying to make yourself look good to the audience of rightwingnut idiots.[/QUOTE]I made no defence? I have nothing to defend. Maybe you think you made a point to your audience of rightwingnut idiots, but you didn't. The fact that you canno see the connection between one thing and another is a reflection on you, not me. Maybe you learned smthg by finding the 'Hierarchy of Evidence'. Next step for you is to understand how to use it.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2711577]I made no defence? I have nothing to defend. Maybe you think you made a point to your audience of rightwingnut idiots, but you didn't. The fact that you canno see the connection between one thing and another is a reflection on you, not me. Maybe you learned smthg by finding the 'Hierarchy of Evidence'. Next step for you is to understand how to use it.[/QUOTE]You were the one who used the term "Hierarchy of Information", not me. And you used that term multiple times in multiple posts which I can provide if you like. Maybe you can enlighten everybody by providing sources that show that the terms "Hierarchy of Information" and "Hierarchy of Evidence" are actually the same thing and are used interchangeably. But I won't hold by breath.

The correct term as you were attempting to use it, as I pointed out, was "Hierarchy of Evidence". The simple fact that [B]you[/B] don't understand the difference between the two terms is a reflection on you, not me. But I have already explained that to you and you still don't see that they two are [B]completely different terms[/B] which relate to two [B]completely different subjects[/B].

But your response is typical rightwingnut behavior. Make a mistake and when called out on the mistake, double down on it and insist that you were right all along. Just like your boy the Orange Buffoon.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2711429]It is such a shame that Biden would point out the real reason gas prices spiked instead of admitting it is because he simply refuses to wave his magic wand to reduce them by 50% or more tomorrow like his critics insist he should do.

LOL. Pathetic try.[/QUOTE]Haha did you forget that Putin was listening to Trump and wouldn't have invaded Ukraine if Trump was still the POTUS now? You are underestimating the power of (negative) diplomacy by your guy Biden. No magic wand needed there LOL.

Ok with all seriousness, I agree that Trump's diplomacy style is weird and odd, but it definitely worked way better to keep world peace intact than the current buffoon we're stuck with until 2024 or 25th amendment or a successful impeachment after 2022 mid-term, whichever comes first. But then again, defense companies and their owners are definitely thanking your guy for the windfall of money, so it's not likely unplanned.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2711383]"The President needs to stop blaming others and do his job. " - Joe Biden on Apr 20,2020.

([URL]https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1252389082723790850[/URL]).

"Here's my promise to you: If I'm elected president, I will always choose to unite rather than divide. I'll take responsibility instead of blaming others. I'll never forget that the job isn't about me it's about you. " - Joe Biden on Aug 16,2020.

([URL]https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1295133234637025284[/URL]).

"Putin's Price Hike hit hard in May here and around the world," Biden said earlier this month. "High gas prices at the pump, energy, and food prices accounted for around half of the monthly price increases, and gas pump prices are up by $2 a gallon in many places since Russian troops began to threaten Ukraine. ".

([URL]https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/06/10/statement-by-president-biden-on-consumer-price-index-cpi-in-may/[/URL]).

Let the expert comments (and blaming Trump and others) start. LOL.[/QUOTE][URL]https://tomluongo.me/2022/06/17/russia-new-rules/?fbclid=IwAR28yXcjKwlDqD-T2rY3fdAYTO-A7Sdnu1mclUaadryBeLUwPUUBe0OrVCU[/URL]

Great video demonstrating why the Dems are right wing, and that USAns are blinded by propaganda to this reality.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IsPmio630Y[/URL]

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2711423]And Uber has your fucking address! Sheesh.[/QUOTE]LOL. And there we have it. Obviously, you have never used it. Which address? Work? Home? Hotel? Restaurant?

Go anywhere and use the Uber app. It will pinpoint where you are. Do the same with google maps. They pinpoint where I am to a few feet. So you make up another lie: Uber has your address.

Why was someone wearing gloves when they inserted ballots and threw them out after inserting said ballots? You said it was Covid.

Why were hundreds of people taking pictures on their phones at a ballot box? We heard it was so that they could say they voted. Except they did not photograph themselves but just the ballot box.

I am not sure what universe you are in, but there is plenty of video of all this, but let's make sure we spend $40 million on the Russiagate fraud and pee tapes and nothing on this.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2711610]You were the one who used the term "Hierarchy of Information", not me. And you used that term multiple times in multiple posts which I can provide if you like. Maybe you can enlighten everybody by providing sources that show that the terms "Hierarchy of Information" and "Hierarchy of Evidence" are actually the same thing and are used interchangeably.
But your response is typical rightwingnut behavior. Make a mistake and when called out on the mistake, double down on it and insist that you were right all along. Just like your boy the Orange Buffoon.[/QUOTE]Information is evidence, UFM rightwingnutjob.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2711610]
But your response is typical rightwingnut behavior. Make a mistake and when called out on the mistake, double down on it and insist that you were right all along. Just like your boy the Orange Buffoon.[/QUOTE]Why don't you try to engage with the arguments, instead of trying to play "goitcha". Honestly, its pathetic.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2711610]
But your response is typical rightwingnut behavior. Make a mistake and when called out on the mistake, double down on it and insist that you were right all along. Just like your boy the Orange Buffoon.[/QUOTE]I think the thing that is funny is JustTK may be the biggest leftist on here. I do not want to put words in his mouth but government controlled health care, higher taxes for the rich, income redistribution, even centralized economic decisions seem to be in his wheel house (JustTK please correct me if I am wrong), and yet you keep calling him a right wing nut. Why? Because he disagrees with you.

So in hindsight, he may agree with you that the 2018 team that was disbanded by Trump made sense, and that certainly did not help preventing the spread of the virus, however the notion it was all Trump's fault and China and Fauci had nothing to do with it is where you guys are completely fucking insane. JustTK did not live in the USA. If the pandemic was all Trump, why did anyone die anywhere else? And that is why we make fun of you. This idiotic notion that it was all Trump and China and Fauci were innocent.

Then of course there was the natural origin theory, anything else was pure conspiracy. And there is not one shred of evidence that this occurred naturally. This virus was specifically designed for humans. It was a bunch of "experts" calling anyone who questioned the mess they created a bunch of conspiracy theorists. The sad part is China and Fauci walk because you Dems so badly want to put the whole pandemic on Trump.

And now we have Ukraine and Russia, and this is where it gets really stupid. If you want to ban Russian oil and gas, have at it. The notion you do that while slowing down energy production at home and making fun of oil companies is about as brain dead as it gets. That takes money out of our pocket and puts it right into the hands of the Russians. But even a policy as stupid as that, PVMonger, and you cannot even admit it is stupid. You will divert or play some gotcha game as to why that is not what is happening.

For the most part, I liked Trump's policies but having to be the center of everything got really, really old. He antagonized everyone close to him. I remember someone saying that Trump could never share the spotlight with anyone. He always had to be the brightest star, and that sure seemed true to me. He got away with public gaffes no one else could, but privately, he had no such luck. Trump had virtually no one loyal to him in the end.

[URL]https://www.westernjournal.com/biden-spending-hundreds-billions-fed-printed-money-not-cause-inflation/[/URL]

But above is the single stupidest thing I have ever heard a president say economically, and it shows he is not fit for office. "I'm sick of this stuff. The American people think the reason for inflation is government spending more money. Simply not true!

When I was 5 years old, I wondered why someone did not just print a pile of money for everyone. At age 6, I realized that if there were that much money, no one would want it. So if you printed out a million dollars and handed it to everyone, the price of gasoline would go to $6 million a gallon. Obviously, Biden does not know what I realized at age 6.

So the question for you PVMonger is can you admit that Biden saying excessive government spending does not cause inflation is wrong? Can you admit the Biden policy enriching Russia and costing the USA is wrong too? Here is the thing. I do not think you can.

I feel like the Steve Eisman character in the Michael Lewis book The Big Short. He made a killing shorting the housing market in 2008 but he could not believe how stupid everyone was. And I cannot believe how fucking stupid the Biden energy policy is and how anyone can go along with it at this point. I am up huge at this point watching Biden drive the economy into the ground, and I almost feel guilty making a killing when everyone else is hurting and brother, you ain't seen anything yet. The only way energy prices come down with Biden is if we have a painful recession. He does not have a fucking clue what he is doing.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2711718]And now we have Ukraine and Russia, and this is where it gets really stupid. If you want to ban Russian oil and gas, have at it. The notion you do that while slowing down energy production at home and making fun of oil companies is about as brain dead as it gets. That takes money out of our pocket and puts it right into the hands of the Russians.[/QUOTE]Elvis believes that our boycotting of Russian oil and gas, and agreeing with other O&G buyers of Russia's oil to also boycott.

"Takes money out of our pockets and puts it right into the hands of the Russians."

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Domestic oil companies are today in the business of artificial shortages and gouging.

They've calculated it's better than drilling for more oil in proven fields and starting the next (never ending) glut in 32 months.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2711628]Haha did you forget that Putin was listening to Trump and wouldn't have invaded Ukraine if Trump was still the POTUS now? You are underestimating the power of (negative) diplomacy by your guy Biden. No magic wand needed there LOL.

Ok with all seriousness, I agree that Trump's diplomacy style is weird and odd, but it definitely worked way better to keep world peace intact than the current buffoon we're stuck with until 2024 or 25th amendment or a successful impeachment after 2022 mid-term, whichever comes first. But then again, defense companies and their owners are definitely thanking your guy for the windfall of money, so it's not likely unplanned.[/QUOTE]Putin never listened to Trump for anything. Putin told Trump. Trump obeyed.

Trump was helping Putin weaken western / democratic alliances in order to pave the way for authoritarian dictatorships to prevail over representative demicracies, starting with the USA.

Oh, so sad Biden didn't continue dutifully assisting strong man Putin in that goal, slammed on the brakes, disrupted Putin-Trump's big plans, reunified and strengthened western / democratic alliances like never before and forced poor widdow Putin to reveal to the world what a misinformed idiotic leader with big but crap military capabilities he was all along despite Trump lavishing praise on him for everything he said and did for 4 years, almost achieving Putin's goal for him in the end.

But then we had the fairest election in history, Trump was out and Putin's plans came to a crashing halt. Boo hoo.

Biden is a Joke, but No One is Laughing because everybody knows that this is a very, very serious issue, and it's an unforced error on the part of the Biden administration. We, the people didn't do anything to cause this. We are innocent bystanders. We had it inflicted upon us by Joe Biden. Not Congress. Not Trump. Not Putin. Not the greedy oil companies. It was Biden himself. An unforced error. All Biden had to do when he took office was keep the Trump economy in place. That's all he had to do, but he didn't. He attacked the fossil fuel industry, and that began the whole economic downward movement.

Proof: When Trump left office, the week of January 18,2021 we had been in COVID bit gas prices had remained fairly stable at $2. 37 a gallon. But the week of February 17th, 2022,13 months later, a week before Putin invaded Ukraine, Gas on average was $3. 52. That is up $1. 15 from when Trump left office. Okay. Now gas is $5. So it is up $2. 50 a gallon from when Trump left. Now, even if you buy that Putin did it, about half of that has come for no other reason except Biden's attack on the fossil fuel industry. Those are the facts. Okay? There is no other rational explanation.

Biden's ineptitude is unbelievable. So it's goodbye Joe. You are finished. There's no way Biden makes a comeback. Remember, he's 80 years old in November and he's going downhill fast. He was never really up high on the hill anyway. It is not like we're talking about a Mensa guy here. I don't want to be disrespectful, but it's his fault. Only crazy leftists believe otherwise and like I pointed out in my last post, the Marxist Left position would be 180 degrees opposite than their current position if this economic catastrophe were happening under Trump.

But don't take my word for it. Yesterday, the Fed Chairman contradicted Biden and said what I just said, specifically Russia's Ukraine invasion was not the main inflation driver. During a Senate Banking Committee hearing, Sen. Bill Hagerty, are-Tenn, got Powell to admit that inflation was high well before Russia's Feb. 24 invasion of Ukraine. Hagerty noted that in December 2021, inflation has risen to 7% up from 1. 4% in January 2021, when President Biden took office. Since Russian tanks rolled across the border of Ukraine, inflation has risen incrementally to its current level of 8. 6%. With these statistics stated, Hagerty asked Powell if he believed the war in Ukraine was the "primary driver" of inflation as the Biden administration has tried to portray.

Powell's response was, "No inflation was high. Certainly before the war in Ukraine broke out. ".

Thus the stupidity of Biden and his idiotic minions was that they attacked the fossil fuel industry without first having established a viable alternative energy source ready to take up the slack. The result is what you see today and what will occur in the next few months ie a recession.

And nothing the Biden Administration is proposing like a temporary gas tax holiday will accomplish the goal of curbing inflation and averting a recession. Going to Saudi Arabia to suck some cock won't do it either. 1. The Saudis like high oil prices and 2. They do not trust Biden. Only a pivot rescinding Biden's initial actions against the fossil fuel industry will work, although even that might be too late to avert a recession. But a reversal of policy is the one thing the Biden Administration will NEVER do because the radical left would immediately withdraw their support and the radical left are the only ones supporting Biden at the present time. So, make no mistake, Biden is toast. There is no way he runs for a 2nd term and I think there is a 30% probability he resigns for "health reasons" after the November election landslide.

Way to go Joe, you are the most incompetent President in my lifetime. But of course, destroying the fossil fuel industry was the Marxist goal all along. Too bad nobody told Joe. Here is to AOC for President in 2024!

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2711654]LOL. And there we have it. Obviously, you have never used it. Which address? Work? Home? Hotel? Restaurant?

Go anywhere and use the Uber app. It will pinpoint where you are. Do the same with google maps. They pinpoint where I am to a few feet. So you make up another lie: Uber has your address.

Why was someone wearing gloves when they inserted ballots and threw them out after inserting said ballots? You said it was Covid.

Why were hundreds of people taking pictures on their phones at a ballot box? We heard it was so that they could say they voted. Except they did not photograph themselves but just the ballot box.

I am not sure what universe you are in, but there is plenty of video of all this, but let's make sure we spend $40 million on the Russiagate fraud and pee tapes and nothing on this.[/QUOTE]Why was someone wearing gloves when they inserted ballots? Every grocery store worker where I live wears gloves while working.

But that really isn't the point, is it? Did the other 2000+ people also wear gloves? To hide their fingerprints? Certainly some of them screwed up, right? After all, they were all lowlife criminals and "everybody knows" that criminals are stupid, right? If that were the case, it would have been a relatively simple matter to fingerprint each ballot from any given drop box and interview those folks. After all, if you have the GPS data, you have the phone number. You can get the address of the user from the cellular carrier. You can do facial recognition of the person on the video. But where is the video evidence? Since [B]all drop boxes are monitored on video[/B] there should be thousands upon thousands of hours of video showing thousands of mules doing the same thing. But there isn't. The maker of the "2000 Mules" film was asked multiple times, from multiple people, to provide all of the video he claimed he has. He never provided it. He did provide two video clips of two people. Both were interviewed and both were dropping off ballots for family members and that was verified. But hey, if the filmmaker said he had lots of video, that's good enough for you, right?

But, in reality, the lack of video evidence means diddly to you. Gabriel Sterling said it best when he related his lawyer story to the January 6th Committee. Since you undoubtedly didn't watch the hearings, I will paraphrase his testimony for you. What he said was that a lawyer he knew was convinced the election was stolen in Georgia. Sterling went through each rightwingnut talking point and debunked it and, after each point was debunked, the lawyer said "OK, I get that. " But in the end, the lawyer said "But in my heart, I know the election was stolen".

So that is really where this sits for you and the rest of the trumpers. No evidence is perfectly OK with you because you know in your heart that the election was stolen.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2711661]Information is evidence, UFM rightwingnutjob.[/QUOTE]Just keep on digging. Sooner of later you'll get tired. Or reach China.