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Sky Ryder,

Burgos starts around 11 to 2am. Experianced mongerers try other venues before that to pick up a bargain. Burgos is usually a last chance for those that haven't picked up and are on a budget or for those that can afford to spend. I don't think business is any slower then before and I am there 7-8 times a year. Other then Rogues and the bars around Rogues that are cheaper the other bars often have only few customers at a time and they are content with that. Jools has been discussed on the forum before, its more of a show bar with cheaper drinks then most but its almost imposible to get a girl out of the joint. Davinos was another like that and its now closed. I think you went way to early for burgos and started on the wrong side of the street hance why you saw closed bars etc etc. On the other side bars are far more happening and have more clients.

Lalake,

Rogues is owned by the same guy that owns MBC. He knows how to run a profitable business and he does. Other bars are owned by wealthy individuals and are used for other things, lets just say they are not run for profit. They actually prefer less customers and prefer it to stay the way it is. Burgos and AC are VERY different in terms of who, why and how they are run. At the end of the day its really up to you to decide if this is a place for you or not. It won't ever change.

Like FBA said girls will see you before or after their shift. Unlike AC here they are not slaves to the bar and skiping the barfine is not a big sin, at least not as big as in AC. The only time you will get stood up is if she didn't like you or someone did pay the bf.

Just a reminder that burgos is considered mid price place in manila. There are number of KTVs and other venues that are FAR more expensive in Manila. In QC, Passay even Makati there are places that charge 10 000 peso for short time and yeah they have plenty of clients.

[QUOTE=Sammon; 1251456]Why would anybody take Phi girls on a romantic trip outside Phi with all these hassles?

I have taken Phi girls on vacation in Phi only but nobody batted an eye.[/QUOTE]I have also taken Indonesian and Thai girls without any hassle too. I'm taking a Filipina to Singapore, all being well in next 14 days. We will see what happens with Immigration.

Reason for doing so. Because I want to I guess, and in Sing, I prefer to know who I'm waking up with, that he girl will be waiting to shower me with kisses any time of the day, and will do whatever I ask her to do. Oh and at 21 she looks mighty fine on waking up too. Can't say thats always the case with the Orchard Towers ladies. Oh and it won't cost me anything. Except for the airfare, assuming she's allowed to get on the plane!

[QUOTE=Mc Don;1251584]Burgos starts around 11 to 2am. Rogues is owned by the same guy that owns MBC. .[/QUOTE]Thanks, McD. I bet he would be an interesting guy to get to know. I usually see girls from Rogues and other Burgos bars before or after their shift. But I think Rogues was the place the girls were having a BBBJ contest with me. 500P for the one that got me off right there in the bar (and of course drinks for all the participants).

[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1251615]I have also taken Indonesian and Thai girls without any hassle too. I'm taking a Filipina to Singapore, all being well in next 14 days. We will see what happens with Immigration.

Reason for doing so. Because I want to I guess, and in Sing, I prefer to know who I'm waking up with, that he girl will be waiting to shower me with kisses any time of the day, and will do whatever I ask her to do. Oh and at 21 she looks mighty fine on waking up too. Can't say thats always the case with the Orchard Towers ladies. Oh and it won't cost me anything. Except for the airfare, assuming she's allowed to get on the plane![/QUOTE]Do not expect " it won't cost anything ".

She expects gifts + money + some more gifts for her family. How to say no to a girl who keeps you happy.

These are girls with generally no job or low pay job and have no money. I would not expect you to say just the airfare and food is her reward.

[QUOTE=Sammon; 1251777]Do not expect " it won't cost anything ".

She expects gifts + money + some more gifts for her family. How to say no to a girl who keeps you happy.

These are girls with generally no job or low pay job and have no money. I would not expect you to say just the airfare and food is her reward.[/QUOTE]I am sure Freebie will respond Samm but since I know him well I can assure you that he very fully understands expectations, obligations, how to keep girls happy etc etc etc.

Let me reassure you on his behalf that he isn't called Freebie Fan for nothing. The girls line up to meet him one after the other. They expect nothing and usually get nothing except some cheap **** wear that they can only wear in a secluded place.

He expects and gets everything for free. Hell - I even have to buy the beers when he and I meet in between his sessions LOL. (Aussie humor mate)

[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1251615]I have also taken Indonesian and Thai girls without any hassle too. I'm taking a Filipina to Singapore, all being well in next 14 days. We will see what happens with Immigration.

Reason for doing so. Because I want to I guess, and in Sing, I prefer to know who I'm waking up with, that he girl will be waiting to shower me with kisses any time of the day, and will do whatever I ask her to do. Oh and at 21 she looks mighty fine on waking up too. Can't say thats always the case with the Orchard Towers ladies. Oh and it won't cost me anything. Except for the airfare, assuming she's allowed to get on the plane![/QUOTE]Freebie I didn't get a chance to respond to your earlier posts, I was to busy in AC and Manila at the time. You got plenty of good advice here and I am sure you had it covered anyway. I have brought over on separate occasions two girls from Phils to Sing and they needed to show at least 100 USD per day spending money along with return tickets and accommodation booking in HER name. My girls were grilled on both ends and be aware that Singapore immigration isn't easy at all.

If you intend to make a habit out of flying her over and time permits I strongly suggest you make sure she gets few more stamps in her passport. A day trip or overnight stay in Batam with a return via JB is worth doing. More stamps in the passport less grilling next time.

For those that don't want to send money over for whatever reason ask the girl to borrow it. One of my girls asked on of her relos to borrow the money on her behalf and she managed to get some cash from those 5/6 sharks to make sure she has enough to pass through customs. Obviously I payed for the interest once I meet her in Singapore.

Also if she has relatives in Singapore make sure that they have sent a letter inviting her over and have included valid phone details. Singapore immigration did ring one of my girls relatives to confirm. OFW with valid permits to work / stay in phils are OK to use as well.

[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1252162]I am sure Freebie will respond Samm but since I know him well I can assure you that he very fully understands expectations, obligations, how to keep girls happy etc etc etc.

Let me reassure you on his behalf that he isn't called Freebie Fan for nothing. The girls line up to meet him one after the other. They expect nothing and usually get nothing except some cheap * wear that they can only wear in a secluded place.

He expects and gets everything for free. Hell. I even have to buy the beers when he and I meet in between his sessions LOL. (Aussie humor mate) [/QUOTE]I remember one celebrity said when asked if he has many girls all over him," Girls are dime a dozen but it costs many many dimes to keep her happy "

Guys:

I post and make comments on this site. This my first request for some kinda help. I am making a trip down to Manila in March from the US. I need to make a side business trip to Indonesia, to Jakarta. Any dieas, on what is the best flight or cheapest way to do this?

Thanks,

CT

[QUOTE=Cool Traveler; 1252332]Guys:

I post and make comments on this site. This my first request for some kinda help. I am making a trip down to Manila in March from the US. I need to make a side business trip to Indonesia, to Jakarta. Any dieas, on what is the best flight or cheapest way to do this?

Thanks,

CT[/QUOTE]I am flying from Manila to Indonesia Bali in April I found the best deal through kayak. I am flying Malasia airlines it may not be the cheepest but it has the best flight times for me. Let me know how you make out.

U also may want to check-out Air Asia (out of Clark / north of Manila). Possibly connecting thru KL to Jakarta.

A little bit of a hassle but usually cheap.

Cheapy.

[QUOTE=Cool Traveler; 1252332]Guys:

I post and make comments on this site. This my first request for some kinda help. I am making a trip down to Manila in March from the US. I need to make a side business trip to Indonesia, to Jakarta. Any dieas, on what is the best flight or cheapest way to do this?

Thanks,

CT[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sammon; 1251777]Do not expect " it won't cost anything ".

She expects gifts + money + some more gifts for her family. How to say no to a girl who keeps you happy.

These are girls with generally no job or low pay job and have no money. I would not expect you to say just the airfare and food is her reward.[/QUOTE]If we can get past Immigration at both ends, believe me, this lady will be VERY happy with me paying for the trip. Her first experience outside Philippines. In 18 months of knowing her, she has once asked for P1500. Thats it. We al lhave different expereinces with girls, and fortunately mine are good. Most of my "girls" are happy with what they are given and they always seem happy for a repeat and very few have their hand out expecting hand outs. Their hands are usually out unzipping me. LOL. Anyways thanks for the help and advice with how to get a gilr on a plane. Its appreciated.

[QUOTE=Cool Traveler; 1252332]Guys:

I post and make comments on this site. This my first request for some kinda help. I am making a trip down to Manila in March from the US. I need to make a side business trip to Indonesia, to Jakarta. Any dieas, on what is the best flight or cheapest way to do this?

Thanks,

CT[/QUOTE]CEBU PACIFIC. Normal ticket one way around 100USD but there are deals if you book early enough or you lucky when you can book it for around 1000 peso. I have done it few times. Be aware the time is shit you get to Jakarta around midnight so if your plan was a short one day stint it won't work. On the other hand time is perfect if you want to monger for a night there, you get to avoid Jakarta traffic. If you haven't been to Jakarta before book your hotel close to your business, Manila traffic is bad but Jakarta is worse.

[QUOTE=Bonkers1;1252358]I am flying from Manila to Indonesia Bali in April I found the best deal through kayak. I am flying Malasia airlines it may not be the cheepest but it has the best flight times for me. Let me know how you make out.[/QUOTE]Cheapest and easyest way to Bali is via Singapore. Plenty of cheap flights to sing and then on to Bali. KL via Airasia is another cheap option but you need to do it via Clark. Malaysian airlines is expensive. Cebu pacific via Jakarta providing you are willing to stay overnight in Jakarta or chance it for the last flight on the night. I think Lion Air or Batavia Air had a midnight flight at least that was the case when I did it few months ago.

[QUOTE=Cool Traveler; 1252332]Guys:

I post and make comments on this site. This my first request for some kinda help. I am making a trip down to Manila in March from the US. I need to make a side business trip to Indonesia, to Jakarta. Any dieas, on what is the best flight or cheapest way to do this?

Thanks,

CT[/QUOTE]Hi CT,

I would take Philippine Airlines to Manila and Air Asia to Jakarta.

[QUOTE=Red Kilt;1252162]He expects and gets everything for free. Hell - I even have to buy the beers when he and I meet in between his sessions LOL. (Aussie humor mate)[/QUOTE]Thanks for making a smile. Didn't I buy the meat pies? LOL

Same smile just got a little wider when the "virgin" called me to say she's tingling with excitement about our Saturday meeting. Me too baby!