Makati

Actual nightmare fuel jfc lmao.

[QUOTE=Acvelh;3055351]Hi everyone,

Just wanted to share my experience in the first 2 days here in Makati....
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[QUOTE=Acvelh;3055351]Hi everyone,

Just wanted to share my experience in the first 2 days here in Makati.
.......t lady boy.[/QUOTE]1. My take from your multiple experiences is that you like ladyboys, not because they have dicks, but because you like that particular look, attitude and fashion style.

I'm suggesting you to change your preferences, because what you're looking for you will not find it in a woman.

2. I don't think there are too many massage places on this planet that doesn't offer happy endings in one form or another. You will have too look very hard to find one, and it will be more expensive and usually frequented by women customers.

3. If you're new to this, go to a bar that don't feature LBs, pay the BF and have a good time. As you can see you actually didn't saved any money by avoiding the bars, you probably spent more and had few horrible experiences.

4. Don't ever fight the payment part in the room, it always end up bad, it doesn't matter if you're right or not.

5. I asked multiple times, why newbies don't go first to AC to get their feet wet there first. In comfort and security, then try more rough areas. Always stories about Cebu, Manila, or the province, and always about a week time constraint.

If you were happy with the BJ then no need to go poking around!

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3055370]

4. Don't ever fight the payment part in the room, it always end up bad, it doesn't matter if you're right or not..[/QUOTE]What fight over payment? He asked for a BJ and got a BJ. Payment in full is now due.

Arguing after the fact is pointless. Of course no one wants a surprise duck in the equation but it's like us arguing later that she wasn't pretty enough therefore I'm not paying.

Praise to Acvlh for the honest, warts and all, post but he had no grounds for non payment.

As others have said, confirm everything before going to the room. There are always signs.

If a punter is unsure or a newbie just have a word to reception that under no circumstances do you want a ladyboy allowed up and if they have suspicions, let him know.

At Axvih, better luck next time.

G.

[QUOTE=Acvelh;3055351]SNIP

Overall I guess I am more experienced now but I still find it difficult to find a normal girl to have sex. It is just my 2nd day here in Manila. I'll go visit Cebu for a few days and other islands until the end of March.

I'll try my luck tonight with a 100% "she" neighbor which gave me her number because I commented on her beautiful shoes and I asked her if she goes to party tonight while we were waiting for the elevator. I can confirm this because she was as well little fatty and big titties. I am almost 100% sure that this neighbor girl is a real girl not lady boy.[/QUOTE]Hmmmm. Multiple ladyboy misses in rapid succession.

Without regaling Acv with my own horror story (s), I will say that you might want to reconsider the vein or source of your poon hunting. Manila Courtesans escort agency has its plusses and minuses, but is generally well-reviewed here on the board. Also the Burgos gogo bars are a sure way to eliminate the ladyboy. And as a last resort, upon entering the hotel's door security guard, nod towards your guest and ask the guard: "Bakla"? Or "Ladyboy"?

[QUOTE=Acvelh;3055351]if she comes to your place ask her to show the National ID that has the persons sex on the back of the card (male of female) and not the Financial ID card. My lady boy showed me and the guardian her financial ID which is accepted everywhere in the Philippines but doesn't have the sex. (check google for more info on national ID and financial ID in the PH).[/QUOTE]Not sure what the 'financial ID' is. Fellas?

Not all filipina have a National ID (or even any ID).

[QUOTE=Acvelh;3055351]I am almost 100% sure that this neighbor girl is a real girl not lady boy.[/QUOTE]You were less sure with the first several ladyboys?

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3055370]1. My take from your multiple experiences is that you like ladyboys, not because they have dicks, but because you like that particular look, attitude and fashion style.

I'm suggesting you to change your preferences, because what you're looking for you will not find it in a woman.

2. I don't think there are too many massage places on this planet that doesn't offer happy endings in one form or another. You will have too look very hard to find one, and it will be more expensive and usually frequented by women customers.

3. If you're new to this, go to a bar that don't feature LBs, pay the BF and have a good time. As you can see you actually didn't saved any money by avoiding the bars, you probably spent more and had few horrible experiences.

4. Don't ever fight the payment part in the room, it always end up bad, it doesn't matter if you're right or not.

5. I asked multiple times, why newbies don't go first to AC to get their feet wet there first. In comfort and security, then try more rough areas. Always stories about Cebu, Manila, or the province, and always about a week time constraint.[/QUOTE]If you are having problems finding a real girl in Manila you did not read this forum. Don't pick up freelancers outside the bars and call an agency or get girl from non lady Burgos bar.

Spend the extra money to be sure it is a woman until you know what is going on.

That being said O and you is correct. You like ladyboys.

Thanks for your replies. I had a ton of fun reading them.

Especially this:

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3055370]1. My take from your multiple experiences is that you like ladyboys, not because they have dicks, but because you like that particular look, attitude and fashion style.

I'm suggesting you to change your preferences, because what you're looking for you will not find it in a woman.[/QUOTE]To which I want to reply: That's impressive. Old and Ugly met every woman already.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3055463]Hmmmm. Multiple ladyboy misses in rapid succession.

Without regaling Acv with my own horror story (s), I will say that you might want to reconsider the vein or source of your poon hunting. Manila Courtesans escort agency has its plusses and minuses, but is generally well-reviewed here on the board. Also the Burgos gogo bars are a sure way to eliminate the ladyboy. And as a last resort, upon entering the hotel's door security guard, nod towards your guest and ask the guard: "Bakla"? Or "Ladyboy"?

Not sure what the 'financial ID' is. Fellas?

Not all filipina have a National ID (or even any ID).

You were less sure with the first several ladyboys?[/QUOTE]Thanks for the advice with the guard. I will ask him.

They were not "several" just 2 in total and I am hoping to freeze that number there: the.

They have 2 ID's in the Philippines:

1) TIN ID (Tax Identification Number ID) that serves for taxation purposes (usually just the ones that work and pay taxes have them).

2) National ID (PhilSys ID) which is the real ID and each Filipino has a unique number.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3055453]What fight over payment? He asked for a BJ and got a BJ. Payment in full is now due.

Arguing after the fact is pointless. Of course no one wants a surprise duck in the equation but it's like us arguing later that she wasn't pretty enough therefore I'm not paying.

Praise to Acvlh for the honest, warts and all, post but he had no grounds for non payment.

As others have said, confirm everything before going to the room. There are always signs.

If a punter is unsure or a newbie just have a word to reception that under no circumstances do you want a ladyboy allowed up and if they have suspicions, let him know..[/QUOTE]We agreed upon 2 times cum. 1 BJ and 1 Normal. After 2 min of BJ I realized that she doesn't want me to touch her intimate parts and I started dressing up since we agreed me paying a she not a he.

In the end 0 cum and bad surprise. Does't that constitute grounds for "breaking the deal"?

[QUOTE=Kazeu;3055366]Always meet outside first. Always do a videocall first. Look for short girls. Most filipinas are small. Most ladyboys are taller / larger. They are also much more aggressive. They will push to know where you are staying. They will push to come over right now. Never tell a ladyboy let alone a girl where you are staying. Never ever. Another poster made a good point about bjs. Ladyboys will want to give you a BJ, normal girls generally dislike giving bjs. They'd much rather be poked in the vag..[/QUOTE]Once in Boca Chica in the DR a girl came into my room and got out a knife the size of a machete: the. I started sweating thinking she is going to rob me but she put it calmly on the table saying that is for her protection when she is on the street.

It is far away from ruining my vacation but it kept me inside Friday night and now Saturday I am still hesitating: heheheheh.

[QUOTE=Acvelh;3055351]I am almost 100% sure that this neighbor girl is a real girl not lady boy.[/QUOTE]Good luck Acv as your track record thus far has been a bit 'iffy' with the baklas.

While admiring her shoes, did you check out the size of her feet?

As for 'girls' on the street, if they just offer me a massage and a blow job, that's an instant warning sign.

I now say, "only if I can feel your pussy first".

That seems to put a stop to it, but I'm very experienced at picking them out and it's now a bit of a game.

I've even sat down with a few of them outside City Garden at one in the morning whilst having a drink and a chat and asked them to refer a female freelancer and give them a cut (about 500 p on average).

At least they're getting something and the referrals I've had have been all-nighters for about 3000 p.

Whether they're lady boys or genuine FL's around Makati, they all seem to have a patch of turf and network.

I think it all comes down to experience and I'm sure we all have stories to tell _ Phil.

[QUOTE=Acvelh;3055475]Thanks for your replies. I had a ton of fun reading them.

Especially this:

To which I want to reply: That's impressive. Old and Ugly met every woman already.

............[/QUOTE]I'm working on it.

The thing is, we are all attracted to the LBs at the first glance, because being men, they know what other men want to see, and what men are looking for, as far as how they dress, how they move, how they look, how they gesture, what features to accentuate, etc. In other words they stand out from the crowd as the best looking ones, and right there instead of being mesmerized and have the pink fog taking over your brain, one should backup and analyze the stats.

In PH is still an relatively easy task, even that the thought of touching another man's junk while checking for sausage gives me the heebie-jeebies, not so much in TH where the transformations goes beyond fake boobs and makeup. Scarry stuff.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3055552]I'm working on it.

The thing is, we are all attracted to the LBs at the first glance, because being men, they know what other men want to see, and what men are looking for, as far as how they dress, how they move, how they look, how they gesture, what features to accentuate, etc. In other words they stand out from the crowd as the best looking ones, and right there instead of being mesmerized and have the pink fog taking over your brain, one should backup and analyze the stats.

In PH is still an relatively easy task, even that the thought of touching another man's junk while checking for sausage gives me the heebie-jeebies, not so much in TH where the transformations goes beyond fake boobs and makeup. Scarry stuff.[/QUOTE]I'll disagree. I'm attracted to girls who are effortlessly feminine not bakla who are excessively effeminate: strutting their walk, preening their hair, shaping their voice or being aggressively suggestive. Most do this precisely because they don't know how true women act.

Any initial attraction to the really pretty ladyboys may be from appearing exotic or forbidden like white guys liking Latinas, Asian models being mixed breeds or anal sex, public exhibitionism respectively.

I would agree that PH bakla are much easier to spot that other countries where modifications are more extreme and start far earlier.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3055622]I'll disagree. I'm attracted to girls who are effortlessly feminine not bakla who are excessively effeminate: strutting their walk, preening their hair, shaping their voice or being aggressively suggestive. Most do this precisely because they don't know how true women act.

Any initial attraction to the really pretty ladyboys may be from appearing exotic or forbidden like white guys liking Latinas, Asian models being mixed breeds or anal sex, public exhibitionism respectively.

I would agree that PH bakla are much easier to spot that other countries where modifications are more extreme and start far earlier.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]I said at a first glace when you eyeball a crowd, that's what attracts your attention first, after that is a different story. Myself I'm sometimes paranoic, and I see LBs everywhere even when that's not the case.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3055627]Myself I'm sometimes paranoic, and I see LBs everywhere even when that's not the case.[/QUOTE]I'm the same, having insulted a few pretty girls by asking the big question.

Better safe than sorry. 😁.

G.

[QUOTE=Phil65;3055470]If you are having problems finding a real girl in Manila you did not read this forum. Don't pick up freelancers outside the bars and call an agency or get girl from non lady Burgos bar.

Spend the extra money to be sure it is a woman until you know what is going on.

That being said O and you is correct. You like ladyboys.[/QUOTE]When does it stop being an accident? Back-to-back, he got two bareback blowjobs to completion from ladyboys, and was fully satisfied with them sucking his dick. He stopped short of enjoying the anal pleasures, and escaped getting topped. However, it didn't bother him much unlike other mongers. Other than paying the ladyboys too much for BBBJCIM, he wasn't really scammed. He just seemed mildly disappointed that the ladyboys were not post-op. If they had a post-op artificial pussy pocket like some Thai ladyboys, he would have fucked them bareback cum-in "pussy" without complaint.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3055627]I said at a first glace when you eyeball a crowd, that's what attracts your attention first, after that is a different story. Myself I'm sometimes paranoic, and I see LBs everywhere even when that's not the case.[/QUOTE]I am in my paranoiac moments right now. Whenever I see a "girl" I am asking the question: Could this person be a ladyboy?. In 90% of cases the answer is yes. The only ones that are clearly women are the ones that do not don't focus too much on their appearance. The problem with these women is that I don't like them too much and is rare to see a real beauty. But it happens to see real beauties within the unkept women group.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3055711]I'm the same, having insulted a few pretty girls by asking the big question.

Better safe than sorry..[/QUOTE]I don't "dare" to ask the question now since they will always lie for extra $$ and if she is a real girl then it hurts her feelings. Therefore, waste of time.

So I am at the point where I ask them if they have a National ID because it is asked at the reception and I ask them if I can see it first and I look at the picture on the front (to match her face) and then on the back you have the sex information. If they have only the Tax ID that doesn't contain the sex information I move on.

By the way. The doorman can bring in lots of girls. He told me that last night. He knows a lady that brings girls from the province just for that. It is like an industry. Each day she has 4-5 girls coming for customers. We didn't discuss price and options. The girls always stay overnight and they leave the next day with cash in hand. Probably the best option but I don't know how can you chose the girls since you don't want to spend the night with someone that you don't like. However, these are girls 100% sure, no ladyboy surprise so one can relax. .

[QUOTE=Acvelh;3055729]I don't "dare" to ask the question now since they will always lie for extra $$ and if she is a real girl then it hurts her feelings. [/QUOTE]You won't be hurting her feelings if she's willing to visit you for money. She's in the biz.

[QUOTE=Acvelh;3055729]So I am at the point where I ask them if they have a National ID because it is asked at the reception and I ask them if I can see it first and I look at the picture on the front (to match her face) and then on the back you have the sex information. If they have only the Tax ID that doesn't contain the sex information I move on.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Acvelh;3055475]They have 2 ID's in the Philippines:

1) TIN ID (Tax Identification Number ID) that serves for taxation purposes (usually just the ones that work and pay taxes have them).

2) National ID (PhilSys ID) which is the real ID and each Filipino has a unique number.[/QUOTE]Oh bruddah. There are many valid ID's in Phils. Don't limit yourself to girls who have only a National ID, as many girls have different forms of valid ID's:

[URL]https://governmentph.com/list-valid-id-in-the-philippines/[/URL]

Passport, National ID, SSS (social security), Driver's license, PRC, OWWA, iDole card, Voter's, Senior Citizens, PWD (disability), NBI Clearnce, ACR, PhilHealh, TIN, or Postal. Run from any girl who only has a Senior Citizen's ID.

There are also many 'secondary' ID's that [B]*might*[/B] be accepted by the security guard, but are not necessarily valid (non-expired) and recognized by the federal government, such as Barangay ID, Barangay Cedula, Barangay Clearance, Police Clearance, College ID, corporate ID, etc.