[QUOTE=JohnnyBeme;2074587]Hey,
I will be going to the FKK clubs in Hamburg in early September.
Any tips for a newbie?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Oh and Italian or Spanish means she is Romanian in German FKK LOL.
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[QUOTE=JohnnyBeme;2074587]Hey,
I will be going to the FKK clubs in Hamburg in early September.
Any tips for a newbie?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Oh and Italian or Spanish means she is Romanian in German FKK LOL.
[QUOTE=MrHo;2075733]So if NRW fails, then Zurich is the destination than GT Vienna then.[/QUOTE]For me it will never be Zurich unless all swizz banks close and currency collapse.
[QUOTE=MrHo;2075731]Why didn't you tell me this before July LOL LOL LOL.[/QUOTE]I did tell you this before July. Read my extensive reports.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2075839]For me it will never be Zurich unless all swizz banks close and currency collapse.[/QUOTE]Why pricing issue?
Well what other choices do we have? Austria will be same pricing range as zurich due to many reported up sell there and with up sell service is not guaranteed 100 %.
In Globe, I did witness solid service without negotiating, so if up sell follows for BBBJ, DFK or even DATY etc etc. Then actually zurich can be even cheaper. Plus sometimes it is not just paying 30 or 40 euro more that is matter, this real turn off ness of not sure of getting solid service like BBBJ or this annoying negotiation and cheap scam schemes. For me that is also currency too.
But again. NRW still seems to be delivering, so it maybe ok for awhile.
[QUOTE=MrHo;2076082]Why pricing issue?
Well what other choices do we have? Austria will be same pricing range as zurich due to many reported up sell there and with up sell service is not guaranteed 100 %.
In Globe, I did witness solid service without negotiating, so if up sell follows for BBBJ, DFK or even DATY etc etc. Then actually zurich can be even cheaper. Plus sometimes it is not just paying 30 or 40 euro more that is matter, this real turn off ness of not sure of getting solid service like BBBJ or this annoying negotiation and cheap scam schemes. For me that is also currency too.
But again. NRW still seems to be delivering, so it maybe ok for awhile.[/QUOTE]Only when people are silly enough to buy the upsells. Germany is still good with lots of girls by the way. In Austria it is up and down. But that doesn't mean we all have to settle for down (Switzerland).
[QUOTE=Pistons;2076137]Only when people are silly enough to buy the upsells. Germany is still good with lots of girls by the way. In Austria it is up and down. But that doesn't mean we all have to settle for down (Switzerland).[/QUOTE]That is good to hear, only thing I can rely are reports on various threads, I most likely try out German FKK once for myself to see how it changed, I am thinking of November visit or early December.
Mr Ho,
My recent quick personal research has shown that in terms of what you can have nothing has changed in the German FKKs although a lot of girls now try to include certain things as extra which before was included in the base price but only a very few refused to do it if you book for an hour and a few still do it as before. It makes me think it was all designed to be another way of making a bit more money and everything else was just an excuse. Still, the law is the law although sometimes the law is an ass but there's no reason to switch to Switzerland just yet unless absolutely insist on not paying more than for 30 minute session.
[QUOTE=Sybarite2006;2076812]Mr Ho,
It makes me think it was all designed to be another way of making a bit more money and everything else was just an excuse. Still, the law is the law although sometimes the law is an ass but there's no reason to switch to Switzerland just yet unless absolutely insist on not paying more than for 30 minute session.[/QUOTE]However, at the end of the day, a 30-min session in most Switzerland clubs will end up costing as a base price more than in German FKKs, so you are kind of back to square 1, I think.
[QUOTE=Sybarite2006;2076812]Mr Ho,
My recent quick personal research has shown that in terms of what you can have nothing has changed in the German FKKs although a lot of girls now try to include certain things as extra which before was included in the base price but only a very few refused to do it if you book for an hour and a few still do it as before. It makes me think it was all designed to be another way of making a bit more money and everything else was just an excuse. Still, the law is the law although sometimes the law is an ass but there's no reason to switch to Switzerland just yet unless absolutely insist on not paying more than for 30 minute session.[/QUOTE]Right, but booking for one hour won't get you BBBJ now? That would be quite sad thing to know. If CIM options are still there, then this would be the way to go around in German FKK now for me.
Usually, when I go for one hour it is about 40 minutes sex, and 20 minute laying around and chat, it is like this most of times, and I got to say 30 min full sex session is enough for me as far as the time go, so in this way, zurich can be good choice as now german FKK may charge me close amount or even more for not even promised delivery of service.
I remember the time when we can go for 30 min and still get good session with BBBJ, but it sound like it begin to change. I would not mind going for one hour for good session including BBBJ now, but going for one hour won't get me BBBJ and if I have to pay extra for BBBJ, that would be messed up.
I will give one more try to german FKK, and I might do this, I go go for one hour, CIM session, which is 125, then I extend 30 min after in room for second cum which is 175. So I am getting quite reasonable deal still, but if I do so, I got to choose carefully and only go with stunner of stunner which is hard to find nowadays too LOL.
Well I loved the simplicity of German FKK with set serviced and promised delivery, now it is becoming more and more like lotto, though let us be thankful that we had blast till now doing multiple beauties everyday for just 50 euro per 30 min with good service most of times. I had good 7 years in German FKK, now it maybe time to shift to less girls to go per day, but more intense service exchange for price.
I do not mind paying, but downside is that when you swing big cash. Then if it turned out to be bad session in room. Ouch. Before it was just 50 euro or so, now it is much more LOL.
Well we are all experienced mongers, so we shall find the way!
It is good to know that it is more or less still the same in most German FKK.
[QUOTE=Ortos;2076919]However, at the end of the day, a 30-min session in most Switzerland clubs will end up costing as a base price more than in German FKKs, so you are kind of back to square 1, I think.[/QUOTE]Well no negotiation and guaranteed service at the club like Globe is plus for me and I usually session for about 40 min out of one hour session, so 30 min is similar with full intense session globe offers.
But I will try out NRW once again, I am tempted to go to Palace Frankfurt and oase again but hmmmm. It was sharky club before and I wonder how palace is now LOL.
I've not visited Globe yet but I'd imagine that things like CIM and NS are extras and not included in the basic 140 CHF price for 30 minutes righT? What do extras cost in Globe? In Aphrodisia?
[QUOTE=MrHo;2077357]But I will try out NRW once again, I am tempted to go to Palace Frankfurt and oase again but hmmmm. It was sharky club before and I wonder how palace is now LOL.[/QUOTE]Mr Ho,
I expressed my concerns about Germany a while ago when I already had a trip reserved for August. I am back from my 10 day voyage to NRW. I visited all top 5 clubs and my concerns for the time being are gone. I had a wonderful time in most clubs.
To summarize, almost no upsells, I usually headed for 1 HR sessions, some with 2 pops. Great services, plenty of beautiful girls with good talent. On average I enjoyed 3 or 4 rooms per day with only 2 rooms in my 10-day stay cut short to a 30-min 50 eu due to unsatisfactory experience in the room with no pop at the end. So my losses are only 100 eu.
With girls who already knew me things went just as before. With new ones I noticed a good DATY at the beginning of the session always established a warm atmosphere for the rest of the session. For me, best conclusion is always CIM. No disappointments.
The girls now see the new law as a good foundation for them to refuse BBBJ when the client is not clean. Otherwise they say: I don't really enjoy sucking a gummy. Some girls also pride themselves in getting a prostitute ID which somehow makes them feel good about themselves. I haven't figured that one out, but have no problem banging a tute with ID and make her feel good about the fact.
Happy to say I just booked another 10 day NRW trip in November without any hesitation.
[QUOTE=Sybarite2006;2077431]I've not visited Globe yet but I'd imagine that things like CIM and NS are extras and not included in the basic 140 CHF price for 30 minutes righT? What do extras cost in Globe? In Aphrodisia?[/QUOTE]Yes extras are not included.
[QUOTE=SmokeLight;2077524]Some girls also pride themselves in getting a prostitute ID which somehow makes them feel good about themselves. I haven't figured that one out, but have no problem banging a tute with ID and make her feel good about the fact.[/QUOTE]Haha yes! I remember a couple Romanian girls at GT that bragged about being the best CIM girls in all Germany and they are very proud of their skills to make every man pop in their mouths to earn that extra 50 E. Dina HU ex Sharks said to me many many times that she is the best prostitute in all of Germany and all men wanted to cum in her. I still remember the way she bragged to me, so arrogantly too. I really think she truly believed it herself! I wonder if she is bragging about this to her boyfriend now that she retired.
I think these tutes need to have that kind of mentality to enjoy multiple stranger's cum swirling in their mouths per day. Especially before the law when any penis, dirty or clean can dump their loads deep in their mouths. Really makes me think what they do with these skills / mentality after they retire.
[QUOTE=SmokeLight;2077524]Mr Ho,
I expressed my concerns about Germany a while ago when I already had a trip reserved for August. I am back from my 10 day voyage to NRW. I visited all top 5 clubs and my concerns for the time being are gone. I had a wonderful time in most clubs.
To summarize, almost no upsells, I usually headed for 1 HR sessions, some with 2 pops. Great services, plenty of beautiful girls with good talent. On average I enjoyed 3 or 4 rooms per day with only 2 rooms in my 10-day stay cut short to a 30-min 50 eu due to unsatisfactory experience in the room with no pop at the end. So my losses are only 100 eu.
With girls who already knew me things went just as before. With new ones I noticed a good DATY at the beginning of the session always established a warm atmosphere for the rest of the session. For me, best conclusion is always CIM. No disappointments.
The girls now see the new law as a good foundation for them to refuse BBBJ when the client is not clean. Otherwise they say: I don't really enjoy sucking a gummy. Some girls also pride themselves in getting a prostitute ID which somehow makes them feel good about themselves. I haven't figured that one out, but have no problem banging a tute with ID and make her feel good about the fact.
Happy to say I just booked another 10 day NRW trip in November without any hesitation.[/QUOTE]Thanks man, I will head to NRW most likely and yes CIM is the best safety net for BBBJ, but let us hope it stays as you described it.
Law is the law, but this German FKK culture began long ago and sometimes culture can beat the system to certain extent, so let hope it stays as it is.