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Hey Hey

wussup everyone.

I am really not down with the RLDs. The girls there seem to be too clinical. When it comes to sex I like everyone to have a good time. The fakeness of it all leaves me going home a bit unsatisfied....

However I am down with a clinical session of HJ and BJ.

I like the concept of the barbershop poles. Nice massage and then a nice happy ending with HJ and BJ at the end.

I have been to a couple. The women there were ok...Around 6 I guess. I was a bit drunk both times I went so I tolerated it.

Anyways...Does anyone have any advice on some good Barbershop pole places?

I have seen quite a few around Shinchon area. How about those? I know they are pretty much hit or mis...anyone hit a good one?

I keep reading about finkle, and see that the price there is about KRW 100,000. What if you don't want the sex? How much is it then??

Alright thanks

-Jigga

[QUOTE]Originally posted by jiggaman
[i]
I keep reading about finkle, and see that the price there is about KRW 100,000. What if you don't want the sex? How much is it then??[/i][/QUOTE]

I suspect, even if you wanted a HJ or a BJ it will be the same price. They charge you by the time, not by what you do.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by NY Yankees
[i]I suspect, even if you wanted a HJ or a BJ it will be the same price. They charge you by the time, not by what you do. [/i][/QUOTE]

Yeah I understand that....But usually the going rate is 60,000.

60,000 is the going rate for the RLD and the Barbershop places...

I know the MASSAGE Places are around 150,000 but they do a lot more and you can spend like all night there.

In terms of Finkle, do they give you a massage and then "pleasure"...or do people just go straight to business?

Usually those Barbershop places don't offer more than a HJ/BJ...so I was assuming b/c many of you got more you had to pay more for it...

Jiggaman,

I'm not sure what the exact rate is for a barbershop but think it's 80,000-100,000(depending on the location). I know for sure they are slightly more expensive than RLDs.

At pinkle they start off with a massage(if you can call it that)at a barber chair and you'll be proceeded to shower and a small room where you get the extra. But I've only been there once and so others might be able to enlighten you more.

Most barbershops that I know offer more than HJ/BJ, so's the word on the streets amongst Koreans. But I guess there are a few that only engage in HJ/BJ, but I somehow doubt that.

Massage place that charges 150,000? Where the hell is that? And you can pretty much spend the whole night there? That doesn't sound right... If you stay longer you have to pay more; that's the rule in turkishbath/massage parlor and pretty much everywhere you pay for service.
I know for a fact that most turkish bath/massage places in Kangnam cost nothing less than 180,000.

Ok guys,

I have spent hours reading most of the post of this forum, which gives me already a correct picture of the city. To summarize, I guess it is right to say that there are:
- barbershops, rather cheap, but older and lower quality girls, no FS, some are foreigner-friendly
- meeting/business rooms with upscale gilrs, foreigner- UNfriendly, very expensive
- bath, like the famous Finkler, which are in basement of hotels or not, foreigner-freindly, correct service for a regular price
- the RLD such as YGJ,Miari and588, the later one beeing foreigner-UNfriendly. service depends on the place... but rather quick and no GFE.

So what I still miss to get a full vision of the place before I go there, is how to organize myself. I would need more advice on outcall service to hotel, as apparently it looks that the service is for Koreans only! If not, I would be pleased to the a good website or phone number to book a girl. Then I don't know which hotel to take....
Talking about hotels, is it worth considering hotels like the Dynasty, the New World, ... service downstair, but do I get the woman in my room for the night ? If I book a good hotel, like the Hyatt, Renaissance, etc.. can I ring the bell to get a girl ? They all have clubs, do they have girls who would go to my room, like they do for example in the Hyatt club in Dubai ?

So I'm kinda lost so far...
I'll stay from Oct 14th - 16th and 18th-20th....
So any good advice for me, white male English speaker would be great. I am considering up to 200k won for a nice service, and more for the night with multiple fuck and GFE.
thanks guys. Maybe we could even meet there if we have same interest, and around same age... I am 30.

cheers

I had one outcall experience when I called for a friend, the girl was average but service was normal. The problem with outcall is that the person on the phone will not speak English, so unless someone can call for you, they will just hang up. Unless someone knows of an English speaking one, you might be out of luck.

I haven't seen a hotel in Korea, that offers girls to your room yet, maybe others can enlighten us on the subject.

I have an outcall experience in Busan. I checked into a motel(yeo-kwan) to stay overnight, I believe the rate was 40,000 won per night. Anyways, the business cards(those ones found all over the streets with sexy gilrs and a cell phone number on it) were placed at the motel entrance so I picked one and present it to the motel manager ajussi when I checked in. It didn't take too long to make him understand that I wanted him to call them and ask for a girl to be sent over. By pointing at my wallet constantly when he was on the line, I managed to find out the asking rate was 50,000 won for whatever they offered. It sounded a little too good to be true but I just thought the ajussi got a local rate.

In about half an hour, a girl showed up at my door and the girl was as big as a baby elephant. I politely blocked her at the door and gave her 5000 won for obvious reasons. She seemed to be pissed off and gave me that peace sign asking me 20,000. For what???? I was about to be pissed off myself but I smiled again and gave her 10,000 and gently closed the door on her.

I guess outcalls are hit or miss.

ok... so I will forget about outcall service.

I will try Finkle.

I think I could find a good hotel, the Hotel Riviera, 5 stard, for about 150 USD the night. Located next to the Korea World Trade Center (?), I guess the place is correct. I have seen on their website they have massage rooms and baths, so I expect some action. If not, I will go to Dynasty hotel.

cheers

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Rene02
[i]I have seen on their website they have massage rooms and baths, so I expect some action. If not, I will go to Dynasty hotel.

cheers [/i][/QUOTE]

I think Dynasty hotel bathhouse is closed for good(or for a long time). I don't know about now but they haven't been operating since April. Latest update on this forum indicates that they are still closed, but don't take my word.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Rene02
[i]ok... so I will forget about outcall service.

I will try Finkle.
...
cheers [/i][/QUOTE]I was in Kangnam area the other night and I thought I'd give Finkle a try after all the raves on the site.

I guess I got there during there "dead time" -- around 9 pm. In any case, most of the girls were sleeping and I got a chunky gal to give me the brief massage. The whole time I was hoping she was just the massage girl. But no :( To her credit, she gave a mean BJ.

If you're used to relaxed GFE incall experience in the States you will be disappointed. YMMV.

I guess you've read all the reports but for a "foreign" guy I would have thought that you would consider a hotel bar for a true pro or even finding a Korean speaking buddy to go to a BukChangDong (area near City Hall across from Samsung's HQ) business club based on some steamy reviews earlier by a "foreign" guy I think. At least it will be a relatively unique experience and much more memorable than a massage parlor.

Just my $0.02

To follow up with what Kern2 asked, are there any good bars or dance clubs you guys know (that's NOT in Shitaewon--please pardon my french ^ ^) where a guy can chill, talk with, or pick up non-pro girls? Specific club names (and directions) would definitely be appreciated. (I know people just point to an area but don't list specific clubs names or directions there)

For example, what specific places exactly in HongDae could one go (and the directions to get there). Any good techno/trance clubs? hip hop or anything else is okay too...just any place that's not in Itaewon is fine by me.

One more thing is that I am the type of person who prefers to go to bars or clubs either with just one other person or even alone, so if you know of any places a lone guy could go for fun (hopefully if the price cover is reasonable too) I'd really appreciate it.

Also, out of request from my Korean gyopo friend who just came to Seoul last week, this question goes out to the Korean posters in this forum: what good Korean dance clubs do you guys go to to pick up girls (again directions please) what i mean by this is that he wants to know of some strictly Korean (or mostly Korean) clubs. That nut =) For my sake though, please let me know if they are even remotely foreigner friendly, thanks. Ideally I'd wanna go with him but if they don't accept foreigners it's cool. I'm a mixed asian, if that means anything. in any case, please let me know so I can tell him those places.

Thanks!

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Rene02
[i]thanks seoulman... so which other place you would highly recommend ?

As the Dynasty hotel bath seems to be closed, which would be the best for a foreigner ? I have heard about the Central and the Crown.. ?
thanks [/i][/QUOTE]

well most barbershops around the ritz carlton will take foriegners
acually most barbershops take foreigners..
but.. it is hit or miss with the girls.. they dont allow you to view the girls first.. but I guess if she is brut ugly which she wouldnt be you could complain to the manager..

as for full on massage parlours..
well.. dynasty was the best place for foreigners..
200.000 was hard to beat.. check the archives you will find some places,, I havent been for a while so I am not the best one to give advice..

[QUOTE]Originally posted by SeoulBlade
[i]To follow up with what Kern2 asked, are there any good bars or dance clubs you guys know where a guy can chill, talk with, or pick up non-pro girls? [/i][/QUOTE]Short answer: I think this depends on what kind of person you are. I mean, being foreign means being outgoing, and that is what Koreans expect from Americans. Korean ladies do not date non-Koreans who act like Koreans--they do so because they want something different.

You can chill anywhere, and talk to people anytime, assuming you know Korean. If you don't know Korean, there is no point going out to a Korean bar; Stick with Shinchon, Hongdae or Itaewan.

[quote][i]For example, what specific places exactly in HongDae could one go. Any good techno/trance clubs? hip hop or anything else is okay too...just any place that's not in Itaewon is fine by me. [/i][/QUOTE]The alleyway of clubs nearest to the #7 line subway has now been designated a tourist area by the Seoul Metro gov. It is right by the Family Mart. It's no secret. They occasionally have group rates when one ticket will get you into a bunch of clubs.


[quote][i]This question goes out to the Korean posters in this forum: what good Korean dance clubs do you guys go to to pick up girls. what I mean by this is that he wants to know of some strictly Korean (or mostly Korean) clubs. For my sake though, please let me know if they are even remotely foreigner friendly.
Thanks! [/i][/QUOTE]Hongdae has no discriminatory clubs. So, I guess you're out of luck. Chong-no 3-ga and 2-ga have Korean clubs, and they probably have some real A #1 stunnas. We're talking big money though. Also try the Apkujong subway, going out the southernmost exit (Hyundae Dept store is the wrong way).

Itaewan has a FEW Korean clubs, and I say they are Korean in that no sane foreigner would pay the money they ask for the "anju."

Basically, there are clubs all over. One I have always been curious about, but never visited, was one south of Chonggak station near the former Kolon sports store. Entrance is above ground, but club is below ground.

Most hotels now offer pricey (50,000 entrance) trance nights at least once a month, as Koreans have been really into this scene the last few years.

The fourth friday of every month is club night in Hongdae where 10,000 won will give you admittance to 10 different clubs. The music varies from club to club but there is something there for everyone.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by TheContinental
[i]
Hongdae has no discriminatory clubs. So, I guess you're out of luck. . [/i][/QUOTE]Think again!!

Koreans are racist and rude and their government officials fall into that catagory. Also, there are no laws to prevent racial discrimantion or discrimination.

There are many bars which dont allow foreigners, and mamny bars which make us pay double.

Koreans have a long way to go, the sad thing is, they are educating the young ones to be racist!

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