Safe Sex and Sex Related Discussions in Thailand

[quote=tiger 1]here is the prove that not only one or two lower of the lowest mongers are around here. it's getting ugly. [color=red]those who desperately try to make a living because they are born on the wrong side if the zero luck scale, at least are humans[/color]. you don't qualify.

no more comments from my side on this issue![/quote]so some who ppen their [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] flaps and drink sperm for an easy living are human and those of us who pay taxes and are not junkies are not? if you want to start a charity for prostitutes, their heroin habits, their pimps and their lies, go ahead. if you think we should send money to isaan sperm drinkers, fine, send your own. but don't go building altars to these [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] flap openers. we pay them to get them to leave after fuck them. they are fuck toys, pure and simple. their opinions are as worthless as themselves. just think what any self respecing thai, the shop and hotel assistants included, thinks of your companion.

if o**** is stupid enough to dip his wick uncovered into the mucous these "women" carry. let him or stop him. but don't preach. just remember he is not the only one. then we have sid the sexist saying pattaya is overrun by ladyboys. and we have the ac/dcs of soi 6 and boyztown. anyone who does not cover up is looking for a very painful aftermath.

i always cover up and am careful which of these bottom feeders i allow suck my dick and rim my arse. actually, i have more fun and games in store for them just to see how far they wil ldegrade themsekves for a few bob.

and tiger, go check out the murders of the ipswich prostitutes. their "friends", the mr nice guys, killed them. to me, the idea of having a prostitute as a friend is more bizzarre than anything i will pay them to do.

thai hookers might have a low opinion of o****, assuming they bother to think of anything but dick sucking. but do you really think they admire a sucker who treats and pay them better than the ordinary had working women of pattaya, who work 7 days a week in stores etc. they are the ones deserve the bulk of your money. the others are only good for jerking off on.

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[quote=billy ibrox]so some who ppen their [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] flaps and drink sperm for an easy living are human and those of us who pay taxes and are not junkies are not? if you want to start a charity for prostitutes, their heroin habits, their pimps and their lies, go ahead. if you think we should send money to isaan sperm drinkers, fine, send your own. but don't go building altars to these [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] flap openers. we pay them to get them to leave after fuck them. they are fuck toys, pure and simple. their opinions are as worthless as themselves. just think what any self respecing thai, the shop and hotel assistants included, thinks of your companion.

if o**** is stupid enough to dip his wick uncovered into the mucous these "women" carry. let him or stop him. but don't preach. just remember he is not the only one. then we have sid the sexist saying pattaya is overrun by ladyboys. and we have the ac/dcs of soi 6 and boyztown. anyone who does not cover up is looking for a very painful aftermath.

i always cover up and am careful which of these bottom feeders i allow suck my dick and rim my arse. actually, i have more fun and games in store for them just to see how far they wil ldegrade themsekves for a few bob.

and tiger, go check out the murders of the ipswich prostitutes. their "friends", the mr nice guys, killed them. to me, the idea of having a prostitute as a friend is more bizzarre than anything i will pay them to do.

thai hookers might have a low opinion of o****, assuming they bother to think of anything but dick sucking. but do you really think they admire a sucker who treats and pay them better than the ordinary had working women of pattaya, who work 7 days a week in stores etc. they are the ones deserve the bulk of your money. the others are only good for jerking off on.[/quote]

billy

i take it that you are a good protestant boy from glasgow by your name, i am a good protestant boy from belfast.
this may not be the right place for this, but i just want to pull you up a bit on what you said.
mate, for many years, especially as a cop in manchester, i thought prostitutes were druggie scum, and indeed they were. i even got mixed up with one in oz who fucked me over. however, i have also used the services of wg professionals here (oz) and these non-druggie girls were very good and very professional.
sure, it is a very lucrative and some may say easy profession, and for many, the easy way out. i agree, the real thai girls who work too many hours a day to make a 'moral' living deserve more, but the girls who sacrafice their dignity to earn easy money shouldn't be chastised so much and abused like you do. i am sure none of us thinks of ourselves as complete twats, or hideously ugly to girls, but remember that these girls( ok by choice), will fuck anyone for money, and to be honest if they pretend to enjoy it, and if we, as mongers get something out of it, then it is a service.
billy, i'm not saying these girls are angels, but why the abuse? for fuck's sake man, they're people, not fucken armed robbers or suicide bombers. just because they provide a service at what many would describe as the lower end of the spectrum, doesn't mean they don't deserve respect. the people who sweep the streets and pick up shit also deserve respect as they do the jobs we don't want to do. we're protestants mate, hopefully not 'wee frees' . that other church imposed strict and hipocritical moral values on everything, and the extremists on our side were worse, even shunning the evil drink, but think about it billy, we are the ones who protest against the stupid morals. you don't need to slander wgs, they're people, people who generally will cause you no harm, so compare them to celtic fans or armed robbers, or car thieves, or... i could go on. give them a break mate, they keep you happy.
pete

[quote=billy ibrox] then we have sid the sexist saying pattaya is overrun by ladyboys. .[/quote]i have only been on and off the forums recently due to travels down here in los, so i am not quite up to speed with the ongoing debate. however, i am very interested to learn, without reading too far back, wtf my observation has done to warrant an inclusion in your post?? if you would like to bring me into fight club to flame me then plaese do so and make it clear. but dont try involving me in your petty battles. i neither care nor want anything to do with them.
sid

pattaya report 319: [quote=sidthesexist]my last night in patts tonight. ive been in and out of the place over the last 3 weeks and what strikes me the most this time round is the amount of russians and ladyboys. theyre everywhere. sid[/quote]

[quote=sidthesexist] however, i am very interested to learn, without reading too far back, wtf my observation has done to warrant an inclusion in your post?? sid[/quote]sid: we were discusisng safe sex and you tell us the ladyboys are everywhere. that means lots of guys are fucking them and/or being fucked by them. so your post is very relevant as you are on the scene. your post means cover up and watch out. it is very very useful.

petemcc: i have seen the celtic scum with ladyboys in pattaya on everal occasions and i would expect nothing more from those soap dodgers.

shit happens just like it happened to those five in ipswich. we should use them abuse them and move on. we all know their lives are rotten. but don't get involved. and don't get suckered.

o**** admits he doesn't give a fuck. maybe he is a wind up. but there are many o****s out there. anyone who does not cover up out of self interest is thick and probably a tommie celtic ****.

as for the ladies, shed no tears for them. they sold their souls away a long time ago. fuck them and forget them. ships passing in the night.

i notice the complaints about stray dogs and crying babies in pattaya. that is the future. the place is just too valuable. and as there are planefulls of chiense coming, say goodbye to the life we knew. grab the crumbs while ye can.

Billy,

Aren't all prostitutes "women" before they are prostitutes?

Do you actually think they had a dream as little girls to become prostitutes?

Most Thai women do it because they have a kid and their husband left them, probably beat them up too from time to time. Family is the number one worry of Thai ladies, their parents, brothers and sisters and their kids.

I respect them, highly. To prostitute oneself in sacrifice for one's family is an admirable think to do, and not as easy as you would think.

I would think again before judging these ladies by the work they do. Some of them are exceptional women and very fun to be around.

(of course, I wouldn't expect someone like you to see this seeing as to how you refer to them)

[QUOTE=Snookynic]Billy,


Do you actually think they had a dream as little girls to become prostitutes?

Most Thai women do it because they have a kid and their husband left them, probably beat them up too from time to time. Family is the number one worry of Thai ladies, their parents, brothers and sisters and their kids.

)[/QUOTE]

Although true to some degree, I also know some FL that do it simply for the money. No kids or family involved. She didnt really need the money from prostitution to survive as they had decent day jobs already but just so she could buy nicer clothes, bigger TV's, buying a car instead of riding a moto. etc.
Then again I've also met some that simply like to f**k, so why not get some money out of it.
May not be a big % of them but they are out there.


PT

[QUOTE=Kcuf39]Barebacking pussy maybe, but barebacking anally? Is that not taking the risk a bit far. How available is barebacking in your experience, Would like to fill some thai fuck toy pussy with lots of cum in Feb but still not sure. Must have been great in the '70 before all the Aids shit hit the fan. At least back then you could fuck bareback for ten day and fill at least 15 pussys and probably get nothing that a short course of antibiotics wouldn't clear![/QUOTE]

Kcuf, in my opinion anal sex is safer than vaginal for the penetrative party, because with the use of plenty of KY and proper preparation, there should be no anal bleeding, particularly with an experienced reciever. Therefore very little infective juice should contact one's member. By contrast the vagina produces copious amounts of lubricant, though to be fair it is only marginally infective.

[QUOTE=Nicfrenchy]Billy,

Aren't all prostitutes "women" before they are prostitutes?

Do you actually think they had a dream as little girls to become prostitutes?

Most Thai women do it because they have a kid and their husband left them, probably beat them up too from time to time. Family is the number one worry of Thai ladies, their parents, brothers and sisters and their kids.

I respect them, highly. To prostitute oneself in sacrifice for one's family is an admirable think to do, and not as easy as you would think.

I would think again before judging these ladies by the work they do. Some of them are exceptional women and very fun to be around.

(of course, I wouldn't expect someone like you to see this seeing as to how you refer to them)[/QUOTE]
Well said! I couldn't agree more.
Anyway prostitution is just another job the same as any other.
Its just that the girls have to put up with something sometimes ugly (the guy, his behaviour, clenliness, etc.) to get more money.
If I could earn ten times what I earn now, I would put up with some ugliness in my job no doubt, at least for a couple of years!
Remember also that many classy P4P girls choose their customer.
They don't just go with anyone.
Some working girls are really into a lot of sex.
So why not get good money for it at the same time.

There are many motivations for a sex worker.
Us mongers who love to be their customers have no right to look down on them.
Mongers who treat the girls, in general, with contempt should equally be held in contempt.
O.K. if the girl is pathetic at her profession or a con artist, that is clearly a reason for holding her in contempt.
I have a great deal of respect for girls who are able to give me a GFE when we have only just met a few minutes, often without any apparant acting. Sometimes they just have the ability to get into having a good time quickly.

[quote=mick licker]prostitution is just another job the same as any other.
..if i could earn ten times what i earn now...remember also that many classy p4p girls choose their customer quote]mick: become a hooker or a drug dealer if money is all that floats your boat. most women do not become hookers. it is the dregs of society do. check out the five hookers killed in ipswich. all smackheads. the pattaya hookers are no different, shabu, secret boyfreinds etc.

[quote=mick licker] i have a great deal of respect for girls who are able to give me a gfe when we have only just met a few minutes, often without any apparant acting.[/quote]your gfe has probably been rimming my arse 5 minutes earlier or has had someone dump a load on her. that is why they are being run out of pattaya. they are regarded as trash and so are their gentlemen boyfriends/grandpas.

o****: you have probably more venereal diseases than you can imagine. while it is true that butt fucking a bottom feeder might be safer for the fucker than the fuckee, it is still a dangerous pursuit as it abandons due care. but you probably don't care until it affects you.

anyway, i have had my say in this safe sex thread. the pussy cats here show why a fool and their money are so easily parted. hookers exist to be fucked and forgotten and maybe foold as well. if you have spare cash, give it to someone who puts in an honest day's work. hookers are already dead inside. they are a waste of time and money. good only as spem catchers and arse wipes.

[QUOTE=Opebo]Kcuf, in my opinion anal sex is safer than vaginal for the penetrative party, because with the use of plenty of KY and proper preparation, there should be no anal bleeding, particularly with an experienced reciever. Therefore very little infective juice should contact one's member. By contrast the vagina produces copious amounts of lubricant, though to be fair it is only marginally infective.[/QUOTE]
Penetrative anal sex is subject to the risks of herpes and hepatitis B, among other things. They aren't fatal, but then again, they do not go away with a simple shot.

Billy,

You might think that hookers are dead inside, but reading your posts you are fill of bitter hatred, obviously someone taught you some lessons the hard way.

I don't think hookers are dead inside, I believe anyone can be dead inside the occupation has nothing to do with it.

Bitterness, Hatred and condemnation of fellow human beings lifestyles are what causes someone to be dead inside.

Oh and by the way, if you hate hookers so much you should stop paying them to do their job that way you can create unemployment and eventually if you can convince the whole world of mongers to stop paying for sex the hooker that you seem to detest and hate so much will be no longer.

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[QUOTE=Billy Ibrox]This thread is for safe sex, something I believe in.

Daddy07: All prostitutes are bottom feeders. There is no need to pity the bottom feeders I pick up. I pay the going rate, get my rocks off, pay them and get them to leave. JUst like when I use a public urinal, I [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] in it, zip up, wash my hands and leave. No difference from urinal to urinal. The people you should feel sorry for are those who entertain delusions about these creatures.

I ask you to take the five wretches killed in Ipswich as a good example. They were "good girls gone bad" and were killed, it seems, by someone who had notions of having a close relationshiop with them, by "good punters" in other words. Hookers exist for our amusement and they should not be regarded as ordinary women. They are fuck toys, pure and simple. And we should simply fuck and pay them and never trust them for a single minute.

It is much more enjoyable to spend money on sport and on normal leisure than on bottom feeders. They exist just for us to empty our bags into them and then get on with better things. We don't vandalise a urinal when we use it. Why should we disrespect human ones?

Sasha Coffee: You have never bought a prostitute. You are a prostitute. Your "views" are irrelevant.[/QUOTE]

Cover up is the only good advice. We always have issues with posters who make claims that they have devised a safe uncovered sex technique.


But Billy, you are one of the punters we worry about the most on this forum. You have an obsession with violence, and in particular punting violence. And you (under a previous cyber-incarnation) made the worrying leap from bright optimist to dark cynic. You later (under another cyber-incarnation) described Thai sexworkers as being on the same level of sentience as pet puppy dogs, and later still made (and quickly deleted) what what appeared to be a suicide note post in which you described having sex with and murdering a transvestite. And now you are back, with the same de-humanizing talk about sexworkers. Very, very worrying.

It's a tragedy you fell out with with your old forum pal, Joe Zop (who seemed to be a calming influence on you). Your downfall started at that juncture.

Here is JZ's take on the ground rules of punting in Thailand:

[QUOTE=Joe Zop]It's not terribly difficult to understand that this is all a game to separate you from as much cash as possible and still manage not to take it as something that makes sex workers less than human. If you pay her and she fucks you she's holding up her end of the bargain, and all the rest is whatever you make of it. If you head to LOS having read this forum and knowing what the scene is and still end up supporting some Thai honey from afar under the illusion it's love, then it's you who deserve ridicule or censure, not the TG.

There's a difference between knowing how things work and heaping scorn on sex workers because of it.[/QUOTE]

My viewpoint exactly. I just wish I could articulate as well as Joe.

Been reading the dark stuff on this thread, way too heavy for me. Best item of worldly advice I ever got was from an older retiered working girl when she said "All women are born with a goldmine, the unfortunate thing is that 95% of them only sit on it"

Now to my real question: I am wanting to load up on about 3 grams of the anitbiotic Zythromax just before I leave Bangkok, to chase away anything that may have made it's way through the first two lines of defence (condoms and copious washing with soap and water). Can a person get Antibiotics in a Bangkok pharmacy with a perscription from a doctor?