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[QUOTE=Master Diver]Hi all knowledgeable mongers:
I am trying to use AT&T to call a ladys cell phone in Bogota and all I get is a quick busy... always.
011-571-315-xxxxxxx and it will not work. She said for cell phone there are a couple of add numbers, perhaps a 03 but she isn't sure, and I don't know where I would stick them. Help.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
A report on a trip I made to Bogotá un March 2007.
I arrived in Eldorado rather late on a Saturday afternoon, with a reservation at Suites Real 85 (thanks again ISG: clean, well located, fairly comfortable, and reasonably priced).
I was a bit tired to go to the "Zona Roja", so I decided to use ISG's hints to find some action closer to the hotel. I walked the carrera 15 to the north (actually I was not so tired!) up to this "no-name-place" close to the Dann Hotel. The place seemed rather dead, but as soon I was in the hall a very tiny girl was running after me saying "Señor, it's here!". I followed her, although I was not convinced: not my type, and I was not even sure she had legal age. But actually, she was not the one that was "acting": a few seconds later, a second girl came in, and explained me the rules and the prices. Obviously, I chose the full service option (and paid 60000, which might be a bit above the normal price: I was expecting 50000; but as I said, I was tired, so I didn't try to bargain). Her name was Daniela, 22, from Medellín (not sure: she had no paisa accent at all). Nice face but noting great. She also told me she was studying to be a pilot (?? well everything is possible in Colombia). We both undressed: her body was average, a thin girl with something of a beginning belly, and big tits. She began with a genuine massage. Really nice: that's the "plus" of such places. Then she began more serious action, with a good blowjob. Then came the fucking: again, nice, above average, but nothing great. The good side was that the girl seamed very clean (she changed the condom twice!), sweet and clever. But my conclusion would be: OK if you are in the north and don't want to bother to go downtown.
The day after, I tried to do some tourism. A disaster: Bush Jr was in Bogotá (not in the same trip as me), and absolutely everything was closed, from the Museo del Oro up to Museo National, including the "Séptima" between both. Even beer bottles had to remain closed (ley seca). So, as cultural activities were forbidden, I walked to Calle 24, looking for Karen, a black girl from Choco I had found there last summer. She was not working, or she was attending Mr. Bush, I don't know exactly, but in any case she was not there. So I found another black girl, Isabel, from Cali. 23, very pretty face, nice body (if you like "strong" girls: she might be 1.75 with 70 kgs, but not fat at all). But: very passive, did not seem interested at all at what was happening. Globally: below expectations. But don't cry: it was only 25000 pesos (10 euros), including the room. She told me she would do "toda la noche" for 150000. Sure that could be bargained, but I was not really interested.
On Monday, I came back in the same area, and this time, Karen was there, at the same place (15 and 24). I am nothing special, but I am sure she recognized me (she even remember we had to dress in a hurry because of the "Policia de Menores" making a "control in the house. Well she was the same, with 9 months more: average face, but incredible body (she told me she is 28, with no child: that might explain), a lot of fun, and at least an apparent interest in sex. Again: a very good experience.
Nothing in the following days, as I was working full time (a pity, but sometimes you have to justify your business class ticket). But at night, I was connecting myself to a well-known dating website and, targeting the 35-45 year-old ladies, I got a contact with a few Colombian señoras. It is incredibly easy (assuming you speak Spanish) to get e-mail addresses, pictures and even phone numbers. I talked to a few of them, and one agreed to meet me on Saturday. Guess what happened? I insist: I'm talking about absolute non-pros. The one I met was engineer, had a good job, owns her house and her car... and I did not promise anything, so she was making no dream or illusion at all: I really believe she was just looking for fun. Well she was not a beauty (a bit chubby) but not ugly, and clever, educated and nice. A very interesting experience that definitely you (or at least I) cannot have in Europe nor (I guess) in the US.
Hoping to be back as soon as possible.
A question: I've heard during this trip that there are also SW in Chapinero, below the Caracas. Can anybody confirm? Any experience? Is the place safe? (I think not a problem in daytime, but what about the evening).
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[QUOTE=Elfrances]I was a bit tired to go to the "Zona Roja", so I decided to use ISG's hints to find some action closer to the hotel. I walked the carrera 15 to the north (actually I was not so tired!) up to this "no-name-place" close to the Dann Hotel. [size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size][/QUOTE]Just curious, I'm in Bogota until Saturday morning. Just happen to be at the Hoteles Dann in Bogota. Where is this place you mention from the Hoteles Dann entrance side? If you don't mind please.
Rastalova,
The address is Carrera 15 numero 104-03. Just after the Hotel Dann (but caution: there are various "Dann Hotel" in Bogota, at least another one downtown).
It looks like an ordinary building door, with a "portero" that will probably tell you where to go if you look unsure. The palce I visited was on the ground floor (planta baja), but there might have others.
Have a nice trip.
Elfrancés
[QUOTE=Master Diver]Hi all knowledgeable mongers:
I am trying to use AT&T to call a ladys cell phone in Bogota and all I get is a quick busy... always.
011-571-315-xxxxxxx and it will not work. She said for cell phone there are a couple of add numbers, perhaps a 03 but she isn't sure, and I don't know where I would stick them. Help.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
The correct number here would be 011 57 315 xxx xxxx
For landlines bogota 011 57 031 xxx xxxx.
City/Province prefixes are 1 bog, 5 cartagena etc. Prefix with 03.
[QUOTE=Hermescali]Long trousers (Jeans ok) and a polo or normal shirt during the day. You will need a Jacket at least at night (and might prefer it during the day in overcast weather/rain). I would nver wear sneakers in a Latin American city, but thats me.[/QUOTE]In most countries in Latin America sneakers are reserved for atheletic evolutions and not everyday street wear. You are usually safe with the jeans or khakis and some type of deck shoes whether on the street or in the clubs. Like Hermes said, definitely do not forget the jacket. If you are in Bogota you will definitely need it. In other cities in the region with lower altitudes you would go without it though.
My 6 day trip:
FLIGHT: I took a Delta flight out of Atlanta on April 18th and changed planes in Miami, taking Avianca into Bogota. Everything went perfectly. Upon entering immigration and customs in Bogota, I passed through very quickly, even though at customs they have the red and green light switch, to see who passes on through and whose bags get checked. I ended up getting the red and having my luggage searched, but had no problems, and it only took a few extra minutes. On my return flight to Atlanta, it was a direct flight on Delta. I have to say that of all the airlines I have flown in my life, Delta’s flight attendants are the ugliest I have ever seen!. They were fat, old, and just outright dogs.
Money Exchange: Immediately upon exiting customs you basically run into a cambio. I had no problem exchanging my money, and exchanged $400.00 dollars. I also was able to get a date with one of the representatives working in the cambio. I will elaborate on that later. Cambio’s are spread throughout the city, but do not use any of them that is a money gram or western union location, as you will be ripped off in a big way. ATM’s at banks are everywhere.
Apartment: I stayed in an apartment that was recommended to me by a good friend. It was on Calle 22- 48. The apartment was gorgeous. It was a three bedroom apartment that was super clean, spacious; the furniture in the dining room was antique and very beautiful. It had two baths with showers, with one bath good size. The bedrooms had very large closets where you could actually hang your clothes up. I say this because I have run across so many in my travels where there was little or no space to hang your items. The apartment also came furnished with nice kitchen utensils, coffee maker, nice appliances, e.t.c.. You also got free use of a landline telephone. This apartment was secured with a gate entrance, activated by a security guard who was on duty 24/7. They were all great guys, who were very accommodating to anything you might need. The negative of this apartment was the hot water, as it was mildly warm. I guess this goes for pretty much all of Colombia from what I understand. The cost of this apartment was $400.00 for the week.
Taxi’s: I got around by using the little yellow public taxi’s, and anyone taking them better have an good understanding of the denominations of the peso, or you will be ripped off before you know it. The taxi drivers in Bogota are the biggest criminals in the city as far as I am concerned. I am willing to bet more than half of them tried to rip me off, and it was not only because I was a gringo. However, one of my girls I had with me also dealt with the same bullshit despite being a Colombiana. Anyone taking one of these taxi’s make sure the meter is on, and that they have a card hanging off the front passenger seat, or somewhere visible for you to review, as this card is a guide to the cost of your ride to different zones in the city.
Mongering: This trip I was only interested in non-pros, so I am sorry for those who are interested in a report seeking information on P4P. My first night happened to fall on a Wednesday. I got to the bars in the heart of Zona Rosa at about 9:30pm and the streets were literally dead!. I would have thought in this particular area it would be hopping even on a Wednesday night. I was in a variety of bars along carerra 11 and 12. Some of the bars I stopped in were the Bogota Beer Company, The Irish Pub, Tabu, Tropical Cocktails, and ended up at Maria Mullata. All of these places had very few single women, and this was the case most of the time I was in Bogota. I found this really surprising. I was also not very impressed by any of the bars or disco’s I entered during my entire stay. I found most of the bars were sit at a table type of places, and that is not me at all. I like to be standing at a bar and being able to walk around. Another thing I found is the beer is never fcuking cold. No matter where I went in Bogota, and no matter if I drank Colombian Beer or Corona, it was ALWAYS warm, and I had to get a glass of ice, as warm beer and me do not go together!. While in Maria Mullata’s I did meet a morena who was celebrating her birthday. She turned out to be a super person, but sexually was beyond poor in performance. She is also very successful professionally, as she is in senior level management of a very well known corporation in Bogota. I will post photos of her in the photo gallery when I have some time to download them, but will have to cover at least the eyes for the obvious reasons. She ended up spending the night with me, and the following morning we went out for breakfast. She then wanted to show me her office, and wanted to introduced me to many of her co-workers so that is what took place. She then returned me to my apartment and stated she wanted to see me again on Friday, and take me to Giradot to provide me an opportunity to see life outside of the city of Bogota.
On Thursday afternoon, I went and checked out some dentists and plastic surgeons that I had set up consultations with prior to arriving in Bogota, as I would like to get some dental and cosmetic type of things done. These types of things are 60 percent or more cheaper to have done in Colombia than in the United States. On Thursday night, I again did the bar/disco scene, hitting Palos de Mogeur, Rock Garden, Red Lion, and the bars I previously mentioned above. The action again was dead, so I ended up back at my apartment very discouraged with the non-pro action in Bogota.
On Friday morning, my friend from Wednesday night did call as planned. At around 1pm we went to Giradot, which is in the Tierra de Caliente. (Hot lands). The bus ride provided me a great opportunity to see the countryside of Colombia, and it took 3 hours to get there, a long fcuking ride, which I do not think I would do again. Giradot is very humid, unlike Bogota, where it rains almost every day, and the nights are cold. In Giradot we stayed at the Giradot Royal Hotel, which was very cheap and clean. The room rate was only $30.00 for the night. The hotel had a nice swimming pool, a small bar, and the lobby area had nice plush couches and chairs to sit on, if you wanted to watch TV e.t.c. The room itself had a queen size bed; satellite TV, air conditioning, and the bathroom and shower were nice size. Again, the water was only mildly warm, but the shower as in my apartment had great water pressure. At around 6pm we went to a restaurant for dinner. This is where I got freaked out. My friend ordered fish and got the whole fish served on a platter. We were having a nice conversation while we were eating, and the next thing I know she breaks off the cooked head of this fish and sucks out the eyeballs, and then opens the head up and sucks the brains and whatever shit is inside of it out. I told her that that is fcuking gross and she tells me delicioso!. I wanted to puke right there!. I looked around and saw others doing the same damn thing, as this fish was the special of the day, so many others had ordered it as well. I guess to Colombians this must be a delicacy for lack of a better word. I never even finished my dinner, and every time the rest of my trip if soup was part of my meal, I checked it out to make sure what I was eating was suited to my taste!. I usually always it seafood, and I found in Bogota that with a seafood meal, most of the time a soup of fish or a combination of seafood is included with the dinner. We ended up after dinner going back to the hotel where I made her brush her teeth, :) and then we went barhopping, eventually hitting a disco that was very awesome. I cannot think of the name of it for the sake of me, but it had three floors, with a backdrop of a waterfall, and it was located right on central commercial. The music was all dance type music by Colombian artists. It never got busy until about 11:00pm. The majority of the people there were couples, or groups of people. I saw very little of single women hanging out.
On Saturday morning we got up and went and had breakfast a couple of blocks up a big hill from the hotel and then got the bus back to Bogota, as I told her I had business to take care of. After arriving back in Bogota we parted ways and agreed to continue our friendship into the indefinite future. I then headed out to Commercial Central once again; this is a very busy and hustling area where it is fun just to watch all the people pass by. I ended up walking by a Photo Japon store, where another morena caught my eye. I ended up walking into Photo Japon and up to this girl and told her straight out she was very beautiful, and asked if she was single. She told me yes, so I asked her if it was possible to get her phone number, as I would love the opportunity to get to know her further, and she obliged. I then told her I would like to take her to dinner and out for some drinks, which she agreed to. We then agreed I would call her at 7pm, which I did do. She then came over to my apartment, and from there we proceeded to a restaurant, which I cannot think of the name of at the moment, but will post it as soon as it comes to my mind. This was a very romantic and upscale restaurant, and one I would highly recommend. We both had steak and shrimp and it was excellent. As I noted, this place is a great place to take a date to impress her, or to have a GFE. After dinner, it was her recommendation we hit Zona Rosa, I was playing dumb at this point, and acted like I never had heard of the place or what it had to offer. We then again went on a bar hopping tour, as many of the bars had lines waiting to enter such as in the Bogota Beer Company. We must have gone to 10 to 12 bars/discos, but again I was not impressed by anyone of them, even on a Saturday night. I also did not see many single women in general. I just do not understand this at all, as here is Big Bogota, and I am in the heart of the nightlife, and not much action with single women roaming around. Anyway, my friend and I had a great time together, and got pretty fcuked up on beer and tequila before returning to my apartment where we fcuked until daylight. This girl was the complete opposite of the other one I had, as she was excellent in her performance.
At around 12pm (Sunday now) she got up and showered. She then went to the tienda across the street from the apartment, and purchased some items to make breakfast with. The next thing I knew, I was getting coffee and breakfast in bed. :) At around 2:30pm she left my apartment, as we agreed to stay in contact, and hopefully see each other again. She actually wanted to spend the entire day with me, but I made up the excuse I had to get some work done. I will also post some pics of her, but she would not allow me to take any nudes, and in-fact hated her picture being taken. The reason I had to tell her I had work to do, was because as I stated in the first part of this report, after I had existed customs I went to the cambio, and got the representatives phone number. I approached her the same way I did the girl in Photo Japon. I told her immediately upon seeing her that she was very beautiful, and asked her if she was single, and to my surprise she yes.:) I then called her each day of my stay just to say hello, as a way to stay in touch, as I did not want to lose the opportunity to be with her. The reason I had to see her on Sunday was this was her only day off of work. She was a paisa. Just as the other girls did, she came over to my apartment, and then in a taxi we proceeded to go get something to eat. We then went to a movie and after it ended we hit a bar that served appetizers. It was at this point that I had to work my ass off, as she was very adamant about not wanting to spend the night with me, as this was her first date with me. To make a long story short, I pulled out every move I have ever known, and it finally worked. She was good in bed, and provided a great GFE once I got her warmed up, but that took a lot of work as well, as she agreed to stay with me but sex was not apart of our deal. We ended up getting up at around 8am, she showered, and off she went.
As it is now Monday, I ended up going to my last consultations. At around 3pm I went and got some chicken to eat, and the next thing I knew I was vomiting sick, which really ruined my last opportunity to get out, as my intentions were to hit the streets of Santa Fe to check out the P4P scene. I knew being Monday, it was very unlikely that I could pick up a non-pro in a bar/disco environment. I also was departing on Tuesday morning so I had to leave for the airport at 6am.
Summary of my trip: To anyone who is considering what city to go to in Colombia to monger. Do not even think of going to Bogota, unless your Spanish is above conversational, as you will be lost. This is especially true if you are looking to meet non-pro’s. Stick to Cartagena and Medellin. I was very disappointed at the number of beautiful women I had seen. They were far and few in between, which surprised me considering the number of people in Bogota. As you can gather from my report, the nightlife scene really sucks, unless I am missing something. The service in bars/restaurants is very poor, as it takes forever to be served. As stated earlier in this post, beware of the taxi drivers ripping you off, and know the denominations of the pesos’ you are spending to the dollar if that is your normal currency. The temperature in Bogota is in the 60’s during the day with rain, and in the 40’s at night. As far as dress goes, the girls seem to prefer us guys in non-formal wear, such as a nice pair of jeans, dress shirt, and some type of shoe that is casual to dress, but do not think of wearing tennis shoes. I hope to return to Bogota for 3 weeks, probably in July to have my dental work and plastic surgery done, and at this time, I will spend some time doing the P4P thing. I know this post sounds very negative in nature, but I did very much enjoy the time I had spent in Bogota, but what I reported on is reality from my perspective.
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Good post. It actually sounds like your trip wasnt so bad. You spent quite a bit of time with 3 non-pros and it looks like it was relatively easy for you to meet them.
I think you were discouraged with the night life and meeting non-pros or even single ladies in disco/nightlife environment. That makes sense. I have posted a few times that you should always spend the day finding your date and take her out at night. Colombia is not like the US where you can approach females in a disco and have them give you attention.... ok at least not for the most part. You should not look for non-pros in a bar or disco, they just won't give you the time of day. You can meet an absolute 10 in the daytime, ask her out, take her to dinner and dancing and screw her all night.... or you can try to pick up the exact same 10 at a disco and I shit you not, she will not even say hello when you start talking to her.
Maybe that answers why you did not enjoy the non-pro scene. You were looking to meet them in the evening... which is a definite strike out. It's a culture thing.
All in all though it looks like you had your hands full most of the trip with non-pros. The only thing I'd really disagree with is the part about sticking to Cartagena or Medellin for non-pros. I'd absolutely say forget Cartagena for non-pros, though it is apparent you prefer Morenas, thus you are correct and you are probably much better off in Cartagena for non-pros.
[QUOTE=UrbanWildlife]My 6 day trip:
FLIGHT: I took a Delta flight out of Atlanta on April 18th and changed planes in Miami, taking Avianca into Bogota. Everything went perfectly. Upon entering immigration and customs in Bogota, I passed through very quickly, even though at customs they have the red and green light switch, to see who passes on through and whose bags get checked. I ended up getting the red and having my luggage searched, but had no problems, and it only took a few extra minutes. On my return flight to Atlanta, it was a direct flight on Delta. I have to say that of all the airlines I have flown in my life, Delta’s flight attendants are the ugliest I have ever seen!. They were fat, old, and just outright dogs.
Money Exchange: Immediately upon exiting customs you basically run into a cambio. I had no problem exchanging my money, and exchanged $400.00 dollars. I also was able to get a date with one of the representatives working in the cambio. I will elaborate on that later. Cambio’s are spread throughout the city, but do not use any of them that is a money gram or western union location, as you will be ripped off in a big way. ATM’s at banks are everywhere.
Apartment: I stayed in an apartment that was recommended to me by a good friend. It was on Calle 22- 48. The apartment was gorgeous. It was a three bedroom apartment that was super clean, spacious; the furniture in the dining room was antique and very beautiful. It had two baths with showers, with one bath good size. The bedrooms had very large closets where you could actually hang your clothes up. I say this because I have run across so many in my travels where there was little or no space to hang your items. The apartment also came furnished with nice kitchen utensils, coffee maker, nice appliances, e.t.c.. You also got free use of a landline telephone. This apartment was secured with a gate entrance, activated by a security guard who was on duty 24/7. They were all great guys, who were very accommodating to anything you might need. The negative of this apartment was the hot water, as it was mildly warm. I guess this goes for pretty much all of Colombia from what I understand. The cost of this apartment was $400.00 for the week.
Taxi’s: I got around by using the little yellow public taxi’s, and anyone taking them better have an good understanding of the denominations of the peso, or you will be ripped off before you know it. The taxi drivers in Bogota are the biggest criminals in the city as far as I am concerned. I am willing to bet more than half of them tried to rip me off, and it was not only because I was a gringo. However, one of my girls I had with me also dealt with the same bullshit despite being a Colombiana. Anyone taking one of these taxi’s make sure the meter is on, and that they have a card hanging off the front passenger seat, or somewhere visible for you to review, as this card is a guide to the cost of your ride to different zones in the city.
Mongering: This trip I was only interested in non-pros, so I am sorry for those who are interested in a report seeking information on P4P. My first night happened to fall on a Wednesday. I got to the bars in the heart of Zona Rosa at about 9:30pm and the streets were literally dead!. I would have thought in this particular area it would be hopping even on a Wednesday night. I was in a variety of bars along carerra 11 and 12. Some of the bars I stopped in were the Bogota Beer Company, The Irish Pub, Tabu, Tropical Cocktails, and ended up at Maria Mullata. All of these places had very few single women, and this was the case most of the time I was in Bogota. I found this really surprising. I was also not very impressed by any of the bars or disco’s I entered during my entire stay. I found most of the bars were sit at a table type of places, and that is not me at all. I like to be standing at a bar and being able to walk around. Another thing I found is the beer is never fcuking cold. No matter where I went in Bogota, and no matter if I drank Colombian Beer or Corona, it was ALWAYS warm, and I had to get a glass of ice, as warm beer and me do not go together!. While in Maria Mullata’s I did meet a morena who was celebrating her birthday. She turned out to be a super person, but sexually was beyond poor in performance. She is also very successful professionally, as she is in senior level management of a very well known corporation in Bogota. I will post photos of her in the photo gallery when I have some time to download them, but will have to cover at least the eyes for the obvious reasons. She ended up spending the night with me, and the following morning we went out for breakfast. She then wanted to show me her office, and wanted to introduced me to many of her co-workers so that is what took place. She then returned me to my apartment and stated she wanted to see me again on Friday, and take me to Giradot to provide me an opportunity to see life outside of the city of Bogota.
On Thursday afternoon, I went and checked out some dentists and plastic surgeons that I had set up consultations with prior to arriving in Bogota, as I would like to get some dental and cosmetic type of things done. These types of things are 60 percent or more cheaper to have done in Colombia than in the United States. On Thursday night, I again did the bar/disco scene, hitting Palos de Mogeur, Rock Garden, Red Lion, and the bars I previously mentioned above. The action again was dead, so I ended up back at my apartment very discouraged with the non-pro action in Bogota.
On Friday morning, my friend from Wednesday night did call as planned. At around 1pm we went to Giradot, which is in the Tierra de Caliente. (Hot lands). The bus ride provided me a great opportunity to see the countryside of Colombia, and it took 3 hours to get there, a long fcuking ride, which I do not think I would do again. Giradot is very humid, unlike Bogota, where it rains almost every day, and the nights are cold. In Giradot we stayed at the Giradot Royal Hotel, which was very cheap and clean. The room rate was only $30.00 for the night. The hotel had a nice swimming pool, a small bar, and the lobby area had nice plush couches and chairs to sit on, if you wanted to watch TV e.t.c. The room itself had a queen size bed; satellite TV, air conditioning, and the bathroom and shower were nice size. Again, the water was only mildly warm, but the shower as in my apartment had great water pressure. At around 6pm we went to a restaurant for dinner. This is where I got freaked out. My friend ordered fish and got the whole fish served on a platter. We were having a nice conversation while we were eating, and the next thing I know she breaks off the cooked head of this fish and sucks out the eyeballs, and then opens the head up and sucks the brains and whatever shit is inside of it out. I told her that that is fcuking gross and she tells me delicioso!. I wanted to puke right there!. I looked around and saw others doing the same damn thing, as this fish was the special of the day, so many others had ordered it as well. I guess to Colombians this must be a delicacy for lack of a better word. I never even finished my dinner, and every time the rest of my trip if soup was part of my meal, I checked it out to make sure what I was eating was suited to my taste!. I usually always it seafood, and I found in Bogota that with a seafood meal, most of the time a soup of fish or a combination of seafood is included with the dinner. We ended up after dinner going back to the hotel where I made her brush her teeth, :) and then we went barhopping, eventually hitting a disco that was very awesome. I cannot think of the name of it for the sake of me, but it had three floors, with a backdrop of a waterfall, and it was located right on central commercial. The music was all dance type music by Colombian artists. It never got busy until about 11:00pm. The majority of the people there were couples, or groups of people. I saw very little of single women hanging out.
On Saturday morning we got up and went and had breakfast a couple of blocks up a big hill from the hotel and then got the bus back to Bogota, as I told her I had business to take care of. After arriving back in Bogota we parted ways and agreed to continue our friendship into the indefinite future. I then headed out to Commercial Central once again; this is a very busy and hustling area where it is fun just to watch all the people pass by. I ended up walking by a Photo Japon store, where another morena caught my eye. I ended up walking into Photo Japon and up to this girl and told her straight out she was very beautiful, and asked if she was single. She told me yes, so I asked her if it was possible to get her phone number, as I would love the opportunity to get to know her further, and she obliged. I then told her I would like to take her to dinner and out for some drinks, which she agreed to. We then agreed I would call her at 7pm, which I did do. She then came over to my apartment, and from there we proceeded to a restaurant, which I cannot think of the name of at the moment, but will post it as soon as it comes to my mind. This was a very romantic and upscale restaurant, and one I would highly recommend. We both had steak and shrimp and it was excellent. As I noted, this place is a great place to take a date to impress her, or to have a GFE. After dinner, it was her recommendation we hit Zona Rosa, I was playing dumb at this point, and acted like I never had heard of the place or what it had to offer. We then again went on a bar hopping tour, as many of the bars had lines waiting to enter such as in the Bogota Beer Company. We must have gone to 10 to 12 bars/discos, but again I was not impressed by anyone of them, even on a Saturday night. I also did not see many single women in general. I just do not understand this at all, as here is Big Bogota, and I am in the heart of the nightlife, and not much action with single women roaming around. Anyway, my friend and I had a great time together, and got pretty fcuked up on beer and tequila before returning to my apartment where we fcuked until daylight. This girl was the complete opposite of the other one I had, as she was excellent in her performance.
At around 12pm (Sunday now) she got up and showered. She then went to the tienda across the street from the apartment, and purchased some items to make breakfast with. The next thing I knew, I was getting coffee and breakfast in bed. :) At around 2:30pm she left my apartment, as we agreed to stay in contact, and hopefully see each other again. She actually wanted to spend the entire day with me, but I made up the excuse I had to get some work done. I will also post some pics of her, but she would not allow me to take any nudes, and in-fact hated her picture being taken. The reason I had to tell her I had work to do, was because as I stated in the first part of this report, after I had existed customs I went to the cambio, and got the representatives phone number. I approached her the same way I did the girl in Photo Japon. I told her immediately upon seeing her that she was very beautiful, and asked her if she was single, and to my surprise she yes.:) I then called her each day of my stay just to say hello, as a way to stay in touch, as I did not want to lose the opportunity to be with her. The reason I had to see her on Sunday was this was her only day off of work. She was a paisa. Just as the other girls did, she came over to my apartment, and then in a taxi we proceeded to go get something to eat. We then went to a movie and after it ended we hit a bar that served appetizers. It was at this point that I had to work my ass off, as she was very adamant about not wanting to spend the night with me, as this was her first date with me. To make a long story short, I pulled out every move I have ever known, and it finally worked. She was good in bed, and provided a great GFE once I got her warmed up, but that took a lot of work as well, as she agreed to stay with me but sex was not apart of our deal. We ended up getting up at around 8am, she showered, and off she went.
As it is now Monday, I ended up going to my last consultations. At around 3pm I went and got some chicken to eat, and the next thing I knew I was vomiting sick, which really ruined my last opportunity to get out, as my intentions were to hit the streets of Santa Fe to check out the P4P scene. I knew being Monday, it was very unlikely that I could pick up a non-pro in a bar/disco environment. I also was departing on Tuesday morning so I had to leave for the airport at 6am.
Summary of my trip: To anyone who is considering what city to go to in Colombia to monger. Do not even think of going to Bogota, unless your Spanish is above conversational, as you will be lost. This is especially true if you are looking to meet non-pro’s. Stick to Cartagena and Medellin. I was very disappointed at the number of beautiful women I had seen. They were far and few in between, which surprised me considering the number of people in Bogota. As you can gather from my report, the nightlife scene really sucks, unless I am missing something. The service in bars/restaurants is very poor, as it takes forever to be served. As stated earlier in this post, beware of the taxi drivers ripping you off, and know the denominations of the pesos’ you are spending to the dollar if that is your normal currency. The temperature in Bogota is in the 60’s during the day with rain, and in the 40’s at night. As far as dress goes, the girls seem to prefer us guys in non-formal wear, such as a nice pair of jeans, dress shirt, and some type of shoe that is casual to dress, but do not think of wearing tennis shoes. I hope to return to Bogota for 3 weeks, probably in July to have my dental work and plastic surgery done, and at this time, I will spend some time doing the P4P thing. I know this post sounds very negative in nature, but I did very much enjoy the time I had spent in Bogota, but what I reported on is reality from my perspective.
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Your experience pretty much mirrors my experiences in Colombia. The bars are usually dead except for Friday night. Then when you go you will never see the women alone or maybe with only one girlfriend. You will see Colombians in groups of men and women together, most of the time they are all just friends. But this is definitely not the right time to approach a woman.
As Winner said, you did right by approaching the women in the day hours when they were at work or just walking along the street. This has never failed for me.
To me, Colombian women are the best in the world as far as reliability and dependability. I have never had a Colombian woman tell me she was going to do something and not do it. (Peru is second). In Brazil and other countries many of the women are not reliable. They will waste your time just like an AW.
I only have limited mongering experience there, as I have only mongered for ST in Santa Fe. My first time there I was ripped off by the taxi driver. I did not know anything about Bogota and barely spoke Spanish. I jumped in the taxi and said, "Donde estan las mujeres? " He drove me about 5 minutes to Santa Fe and said 10, 000 pesos. I did not know any better until the trip back with another taxi driver was only 4, 000 pesos. But I figured it was still worth the 10000 for me to know where the mongering spot was. Taxi drivers will also try you back and forth to the airport. They usually want to get me for at least 15, 000 pesos. I tell them that I am always in Bogota and I always pay 11, 000. We usually settle at 12.
As you said, Spanish is a must in Bogota. Don't even think of leaving the airport without basic Spanish. Even in the service industries such as hotels, you will not find many people speaking English.
The only think we disagree on is beautiful women. IMHO Bogota is loaded with beautiful women. When I am at the airport or either downtown my head doesn't stop turning. But I guess everybody's tastes are different. Other than that, I don't think you missed anything and your experiece was pretty much the same to my own experiences of the country.
[QUOTE=UrbanWildlife]My 6 day trip:
This trip I was only interested in non-pros, so I am sorry for those who are interested in a report seeking information on P4P. Some of the bars I stopped in were the Bogota Beer Company, The Irish Pub, Tabu, Tropical Cocktails, and ended up at Maria Mullata. All of these places had very few single women, and this was the case most of the time I was in Bogota.
On Friday morning, my friend from Wednesday night did call as planned.
I ended up walking into Photo Japon and up to this girl and told her straight out she was very beautiful, and asked if she was single. She told me yes, so I asked her if it was possible to get her phone number, as I would love the opportunity to get to know her further, and she obliged. I then told her I would like to take her to dinner and out for some drinks, which she agreed to. We then agreed I would call her at 7pm, which I did do. She then came over to my apartment, and from there we proceeded to a restaurant
I went to the cambio, and got the representatives phone number. I approached her the same way I did the girl in Photo Japon. I told her immediately upon seeing her that she was very beautiful, and asked her if she was single, and to my surprise she yes.:) I then called her each day of my stay just to say hello, as a way to stay in touch, as I did not want to lose the opportunity to be with her.
Summary of my trip: To anyone who is considering what city to go to in Colombia to monger. Do not even think of going to Bogota, unless your Spanish is above conversational, as you will be lost. This is especially true if you are looking to meet non-pro’s. I was very disappointed at the number of beautiful women I had seen. They were far and few in between, which surprised me considering the number of people in Bogota. As you can gather from my report, the nightlife scene really sucks, unless I am missing something. I know this post sounds very negative in nature, but I did very much enjoy the time I had spent in Bogota, but what I reported on is reality from my perspective.
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BULLSHIT....
hooking up in bars in Bogota is EASY, especially as an exotic foreigner. As a matter of fact, you generally will NOT find them during the day, they're looking for it at night, and the bars are the place, just like anywhere else on Earth!
However if you don't speak any Spanish just how are you gonna go about it?
ESPECIALLY in Bogota your Spanish has to be not only fluent, but it has to be good quality too, people in that town are very formal, especially with people they just met. If you speak Nuyorican slang with English words all over the place never used 'usted' in your life, you ain't gonna make a good impression with anybody but the bottom rung of the social ladder. In THAT aspect Bogota is NOTHING like the US. They'll cut you a little slack for being a foreigner, but communication is key!
Personally I wouldn't recommend ANYWHERE in Colombia either for pro OR non-pro action unless your Spanish is decent. If you want Colombian pussy and your Spanish isn't up to par, stick to Curacao or Aruba maybe, or even CR. If you want non-pro Colombian pussy, well frankly, I dunno how you'd do any better than that poster did without great Spanish. Even in NYC or Miami, why are they going to give you the time of day if you can't even relate to them on their own level?
Also, if you are in a dance bar (this poster wasn't but just as an aside) and you can't dance you are almost certainly wasting your time. The two ways into a Colombiana's secret garden are by dancing and getting them hot and bothered, and by chatting them up and making them laugh, Colombians are the most fucking verbose people on Earth. Colombian guys pick up women in bars with real great stimulating conversation, seeing some of these guys at work is fucking unbelievable!! :P
[QUOTE=Bango Cheito]BULLSHIT....
hooking up in bars in Bogota is EASY, especially as an exotic foreigner. As a matter of fact, you generally will NOT find them during the day, they're looking for it at night, and the bars are the place, just like anywhere else on Earth!
[/QUOTE]You really must be something special Bango, as I just lived the experience, and as I stated in my report, I did not see that many single women even in the bars/discos, and I was in the major bars/discos featured on this site, and in Zona Rosa. As a matter of fact you can go back through all the Bogota reports, and you will be lucky to find one to support your post.
Keep up your good work, and I look forward to your reports on hooking up in Bogota with the non-pros, and you sharing the pictures with us. Hopefully this will be soon!
I just went back through 4 pages of your posts Bango, and 85 to 90 percent of them are on the Morality of Prostitution, and American Women, but not one report on the non-pro action in Bogota, or anywhere else in Colombia. It is quite funny how you seem to be such an authority/expert on the action in Bogota, and have such a strong knowledge of Colombian women, but yet I cannot find a first hand post by you supporting your expertise!
Please share your first hand experiences, knowledge, and wisdom with us on getting non-pros and leave the posting of the Morality of Prostitution and American women for another day. As stated in my previous post, share with us some pics as well.
Thank you!
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To me, Colombian women are the best in the world as far as reliability and dependability. I have never had a Colombian woman tell me she was going to do something and not do it. (Peru is second). In Brazil and other countries many of the women are not reliable. They will waste your time just like an AW.
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If the Colombiana digs you, she'll be there for you, that's for sure.
If she's not into you, well, good luck, best to move on.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]
As Winner said, you did right by approaching the women in the day hours when they were at work or just walking along the street. This has never failed for me.
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I'll have to agree with this 100 percent ... no doubt!!
I've been running around Colombia for years and for me, meeting chicas in the daytime is by far the easiest.
I've had some success in Bars/Discos at night, but like guys have said here, most of the time they are in groups and less approachable.
Of course I rarely use the "usted" word ....
That's a joke .... hahaha.
Suerte amigos!
By the way ... speaking of hot Bogota chicas ... I met the sweetest, prettiest chica in Barranquilla ... was raving to her about "mi dulce Costenita" (my sweet coastal chica) ... and she told me her and her family were from Bogota ... imaginate! Now she's my "dulce Rolita" :)
[QUOTE=UrbanWildlife]I just went back through 4 pages of your posts Bango, and 85 to 90 percent of them are on the Morality of Prostitution, and American Women, but not one report on the non-pro action in Bogota, or anywhere else in Colombia. It is quite funny how you seem to be such an authority/expert on the action in Bogota, and have such a strong knowledge of Colombian women, but yet I cannot find a first hand post by you supporting your expertise!
Please share your first hand experiences, knowledge, and wisdom with us on getting non-pros and leave the posting of the Morality of Prostitution and American women for another day. As stated in my previous post, share with us some pics as well.
Thank you![/QUOTE]
Well since you asked, personally I think looking for non-pro action in ANY city is a waste of time and the easiest and best thing to do is pay for it, but hey, to each his own. So you will NEVER find any reports on non-pro action from me, you will however find reports on p4p in the NYC (although we are no longer allowed by the promoters to post any info on parties anymore) Montreal Rio AND Bogota sections. Jackson seems to have valued my contributions enough to give me Senior Member status, so I must have SOME use around here :P
I'm talking based on my fiancée and her friends' experience. She lives in Bogota and I live in NYC (until they finish building our apartment in Bogotá), but we still fuck other people, we're not very big on the whole monogamy tip, been there, done that. I just go out and do p4p every once in a while, she and her friends go out (AT NIGHT) and pick guys up in bars. So SOMEBODY is scoring with these girls.
I'm also talking from past experience with Colombianas in NYC Miami and Toronto, not to mention in Brazil and Quebec. If you want to score with a non-pro in ANY of those places, I'd say first order of business is to learn the language and the culture well, and then you won't be 'missing anything'.