Jakarta

[QUOTE=Baldmale]Seems to be "the rich executive club" in permata hijau. Just open.[/QUOTE]Heys,

I'm thinking about going Jakarta again next month for a long trip.. Where is this permata hijau? Any nice cheap hotels near this place? Is it near Senayan area?

Ex

I am very interested in the other posters who have used AFF and have described it in terms of a regular dating site, I have to say that has very much not been my experience.

I have used the Love Happens site and found that to be similar to how AFF is being described here; ordinary girls who are looking to meet friends or long term partners, some susceptible to a little subtle flirting which can lead to happy rewards but on the whole most are looking for some commitment. AFF on the other hand is a very different story. For a start have a look at the pictures the girls post, these ain't regular snapshots but often quite explicit porno shots (yes I know not all the photos are of the actual girls) it intrigues me why anyone would have to approach the idea of sex obliquely with a girl who posts pictures of her (alleged) pussy or tits on the internet and publishes perfectly frank profiles of her sexual desires and fantasies.

In the first week of joining I have accumulated a dozen "friends" all of whom responded to my simple "Hi wanna meet up" approach without any problem. I have arranged a couple of dates and the expectation of sex is absolutely explicit, Christ I've even had approaches from two blokes who want me to shag their wives!

I don't for one second doubt the accounts provided by other members but I have to say I think you're wasting alot of time gently wooing these girls, they're already up for it lads.

[Disclaimer: I have no commercial connection with either of the sites mentioned above]

Hello fellow members,

I'm visiting Jakarta next week and hope to get some good chicks to bang.

If anyone can help me how to go about, pls pm me.

I sincerely appreciate your asisstance. Thanks a lot.

[QUOTE=Dorman]I am very interested in the other posters who have used AFF and have described it in terms of a regular dating site, I have to say that has very much not been my experience.

I have used the Love Happens site and found that to be similar to how AFF is being described here; ordinary girls who are looking to meet friends or long term partners, some susceptible to a little subtle flirting which can lead to happy rewards but on the whole most are looking for some commitment. AFF on the other hand is a very different story. For a start have a look at the pictures the girls post, these ain't regular snapshots but often quite explicit porno shots (yes I know not all the photos are of the actual girls) it intrigues me why anyone would have to approach the idea of sex obliquely with a girl who posts pictures of her (alleged) pussy or tits on the internet and publishes perfectly frank profiles of her sexual desires and fantasies.

In the first week of joining I have accumulated a dozen "friends" all of whom responded to my simple "Hi wanna meet up" approach without any problem. I have arranged a couple of dates and the expectation of sex is absolutely explicit, Christ I've even had approaches from two blokes who want me to shag their wives!

I don't for one second doubt the accounts provided by other members but I have to say I think you're wasting alot of time gently wooing these girls, they're already up for it lads.

[Disclaimer: I have no commercial connection with either of the sites mentioned above][/QUOTE]I completely agree with Dorman. Sorry friends for my long silence, but I had to solve some private matters, but now I'm back.

My experience with AFF is also pretty, let's say, poor. First they want you to subscribe for "free", but as soon as you want to contact or have more infos about the ladies they ask you to join their memebership.

I did not join due to the following considerations: Hmmm, let's see, a 3 months gold memebership costs you 59. 95 US$, which is equivalent to about 2 visits to Kartika or Berlian, 1. 867 visits to Maribaya, 0. 585 visits to upscale places like Beverly Hill, Alexis or Sumo. Considering that in the end our goal is to drown the "biscuit" into the "cup" not really worth it, no?

Cheers, CF68

[QUOTE=Dorman]I am very interested in the other posters who have used AFF and have described it in terms of a regular dating site, I have to say that has very much not been my experience.

I have used the Love Happens site and found that to be similar to how AFF is being described here; ordinary girls who are looking to meet friends or long term partners, some susceptible to a little subtle flirting which can lead to happy rewards but on the whole most are looking for some commitment. AFF on the other hand is a very different story. For a start have a look at the pictures the girls post, these ain't regular snapshots but often quite explicit porno shots (yes I know not all the photos are of the actual girls) it intrigues me why anyone would have to approach the idea of sex obliquely with a girl who posts pictures of her (alleged) pussy or tits on the internet and publishes perfectly frank profiles of her sexual desires and fantasies.

In the first week of joining I have accumulated a dozen "friends" all of whom responded to my simple "Hi wanna meet up" approach without any problem. I have arranged a couple of dates and the expectation of sex is absolutely explicit, Christ I've even had approaches from two blokes who want me to shag their wives!

I don't for one second doubt the accounts provided by other members but I have to say I think you're wasting alot of time gently wooing these girls, they're already up for it lads.

[Disclaimer: I have no commercial connection with either of the sites mentioned above][/QUOTE]Dorman,

I don't disagree with anything you have said about AFF Indonesia. But Mangga and Sabbath are not wrong either. The main point that I think all of us were making is that it doesn't hurt to be a nice guy.

I'm not talking flowers and dinner here. Though I will admit to a couple of dates in which I ate my new friend first and then we ordered room service (grin). And for sure the sex typically happens within minutes (ok maybe tens of minutes) after meeting the lady on the first date.

The trick is getting that first date, and this is where your mileage may vary. If you are a good-looking guy and you're willing to post your photo, then you can pull many women easily with a simple "I like your profile. Do you want to meet? "

I'm an ok-looking guy and I'm fit, so once I get face-to-face with the lady, my hit rate has been excellent. Dorman is spot-on that these women (most of them anyway) are looking for sex. Wonderful! But I have three handicaps I have to work through. First handicap is that no way I will post a photo; second is that I am honest about my age. Late 40's. And most of the ladies claim to be mid-20's to late-30's (sometimes creative accounting, but I have had my share of for-real mid-20's stunners). Third handicap is that I am married. Which I am also honest about on AFF, and which accounts for my reluctance to lead with my face.

Some of you may be thinking "Why be honest about age and (especially) marital status)? ". That's up to you, and probably works for one-off liaisons. But I have 3 things I'm trying to do. One is to pull from the top-quartile of the talent pool; two is to get a GFE from each encounter; three is to build a book of repeat business.

So for all those reasons, I find it works best to be polite and friendly and patient to the tune of several rounds of email exchanges. This helps to screen out the nut-jobs, personality mis-matches and potential stalkers too. Rest assured that AFF has its share of those.

Last point about patient. I find it helps a lot to invite a woman for "just a drink" and to be clear that next steps are "terserah kamu" ("up to you" for English-only speakers). Since she is looking for sex (well, duh! ) if she decides you don't look like a psycho, then the next steps she chooses will usually be straight to your hotel room. But most of the women seem to appreciate being in the driver's seat. Go figure. .

So Dorman's right. AFF is more about sex than relationships. But in one of those quirks of the boy/girl thing, making it seem a little more like a relationship has paid big dividends for me on sex. Hope that helps.

[QUOTE=Crazyfish68]My experience with AFF is also pretty, let's say, poor. ...I did not join [/QUOTE]I've always regarded AFF as a scam (most women pics are fake pics posted by men, only the men pics are real etc.). If you run a search in Google groups you will find many threads complaining about AFF, not only about the zero female contacts, but eg about the fact that membership is hard to cancel, you have to cancel your credit card or they keep charging it.

[QUOTE=Morepoonhound]Dorman,
I'm an ok-looking guy and I'm fit, so once I get face-to-face with the lady, my hit rate has been excellent. Dorman is spot-on that these women (most of them anyway) are looking for sex. Wonderful![/QUOTE]My experience exactly. I have never likef AFF, a scam in my opinion, and have had quite good success with Faceparty. Requires a bit of investment in terms of time but have I now a "stable" of 3 regulars, all "good girls" with good jobs, live with their parents, and age range between 27 - 33. I'm no youngster, mid-50s, and it seems to work. Basically these gals want uncomplicated sex without any chance of reprisals (gossip etc etc). All 3 are fairly clear in their needs sexually, so you need to be proficient in that area and be able to deliver the goods. Apart from that all 3 crave some affection, something that seems to be missing in the life of these gals.

The general routine is that they will swing by my place after work and be on their way home by 9:30 PM, so no chance of suspicion from family, friends etc.

I would hate like hell to think that I gave the impression of being a cad, on the contrary I am quite the gentleman, well if it isn't an explicitly commercial relationship playing it nice is the only way you're going to get return matches.

I was just making the comparison between AFF and the more 'regular' dating forums, they are not exactly shrinking violets or playing it hard to get in Adult Friend Finder.

Just on the various sites to meet girls on, I have found Asianeuro.com a killer of a site literally hundreds of girls who want to meet someone and many just want a BONPA (Bonk Only No Public Appearance). I really on that site for my freebies who either want to come to Bali and would like some free accomodation for a week or when I came to Jakarta I caught up with a couple then as well. The beauty is this site covers more than just indonesia so that gives a wider range for you as well. I have looked at faceparty and it has many cuties as well, but also a bucket load of ladyboys which takes the edge away when you see a nice photo and then find out its a guy.

I know many of the people I have told to try Asianeuro have also done very well out of the site. What have you got to lose?

Looking to be back in Jakarta soon, So Mighty Spearsman we must catch up.

Enjoy

Prof

[QUOTE=Warrior88]Will be in Jakarta tomorrow night. Since no time to read all bros thread.

May proceed to contact Don service or Qibye - Tropical Spa.

Unless there are better option.[/QUOTE]If you can get away for something in the middle of the afternoon, it's better. Traffic was especially bad. Even for Jakarta. The couple of times I went in the late afternoon, early evening. Going early afternoon saved me 20 minutes each way in the taxi.

Altogether I have been 3 times, and there was a good selection of free-lancers available each time. Standard package at Tropical is a free-lancer (for sex) in a reasonably-nice private room, followed by an hour-long massage by a massage lady in a curtained-off row of massage mattresses. You do get to choose the free-lancer from a line-up if you ask for it, or you can simply wander to the back of the room where they sit and check them out more casually. But for the massage lady, unless you ask for one by name, you get the next available one in the queue.

Both times that I took the standard package, the massage ladies. Who are older and generally much less attractive than the free-lancers. Were also willing to sit on my dick. And did. But the massage mattresses aren't such a great atmosphere and there is less privacy. If the free-lancers are a 7, then the massage ladies are comparatively a 4. For sure I wouldn't go to Tropical to do one of the massage ladies. But it's fun enough as a second pop after doing the head-liner. And after getting 30 minutes of a decent massage.

My suggestion is to pay a little bit more. I guess it was maybe another 100k rupiah. And ask to have the massage lady brought to the same room where you do the deed with your free-lancer. She will like that better and so will you because of the better facilities. On the other hand, if all you plan to do is get the full standard massage on the back-end, rather than take a second shot, then maybe not so much point to pay the extra charge to stay on in the private room.

The massage ladies are not. Strictly speaking. Available for sex, but none have turned me down yet. If you want to be sure of that second shot (which you will have to tip additional for of course), maybe tell her when she walks in that you want full service, and ask to change if she isn't keen.

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Hi Joe,

How was your game eventually ? the 18 and 19 hole... :)

Joe and Bro Panya,

I am a very newbie to Golf and begin to enjoy it.

Would love to join playing with you if you don't mind playing with a beginner

[QUOTE=Panya]JM,

Tried to send you a PM, but you have either not turned it on or subscribed to it. Have fun, though!

Best,

Panya[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Funky Man]Hi Joe,

How was your game eventually ? the 18 and 19 hole... :)

Joe and Bro Panya,

I am a very newbie to Golf and begin to enjoy it.

Would love to join playing with you if you don't mind playing with a beginner[/QUOTE]To Joe,

I am a begginer at the 18 th hole game but I am very advanced at the 3 hole game , that is all my girl friend in Jarkata tell me.

Fast eddie 48

[QUOTE=Morepoonhound]If you can get away for something in the middle of the afternoon, it's better. Traffic was especially bad. Even for Jakarta. The couple of times I went in the late afternoon, early evening. Going early afternoon saved me 20 minutes each way in the taxi.

Altogether I have been 3 times, and there was a good selection of free-lancers available each time. Standard package at Tropical is a free-lancer (for sex) in a reasonably-nice private room, followed by an hour-long massage by a massage lady in a curtained-off row of massage mattresses. You do get to choose the free-lancer from a line-up if you ask for it, or you can simply wander to the back of the room where they sit and check them out more casually. But for the massage lady, unless you ask for one by name, you get the next available one in the queue.

Both times that I took the standard package, the massage ladies. Who are older and generally much less attractive than the free-lancers. Were also willing to sit on my dick. And did. But the massage mattresses aren't such a great atmosphere and there is less privacy. If the free-lancers are a 7, then the massage ladies are comparatively a 4. For sure I wouldn't go to Tropical to do one of the massage ladies. But it's fun enough as a second pop after doing the head-liner. And after getting 30 minutes of a decent massage.

My suggestion is to pay a little bit more. I guess it was maybe another 100k rupiah. And ask to have the massage lady brought to the same room where you do the deed with your free-lancer. She will like that better and so will you because of the better facilities. On the other hand, if all you plan to do is get the full standard massage on the back-end, rather than take a second shot, then maybe not so much point to pay the extra charge to stay on in the private room.

The massage ladies are not. Strictly speaking. Available for sex, but none have turned me down yet. If you want to be sure of that second shot (which you will have to tip additional for of course), maybe tell her when she walks in that you want full service, and ask to change if she isn't keen.

[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size][/QUOTE]Hi bro,

1st timer to Jakarta, where is tropical spa, near any hotel?

[QUOTE=Kangoo1]Hi bro,

1st timer to Jakarta, where is tropical spa, near any hotel?[/QUOTE]As a member with few posts of my own, I don't feel right telling you to RTFF. But maybe some of the more senior members won't mind saying so (grin).

Interpreting as charitably as possible, maybe you never post a report after asking a question because no-one answers you. So I will tell you that Tropical Spa is in the ITC Roxy Mas area, and that there are numerous hotels close enough by. Do a google on ITC Roxy Mas, hotel and Jakarta and then take your pick. But I would not choose my hotel based on proximity to a pussy-palace. Pick a hotel convenient for your business needs or personal tastes and then pay a taxi to take you to Tropical.

I did not tell you to RTFF, my friend. But I will tell you that a search of just this site using only the term "Tropical Spa" turns up more than 20 posts. And doing the same on Google with the addition of "Jakarta" turns up more than a couple hundred, including numerous links to international sex guide Indonesia pages. Hmmmm . . .

With 18 posts to your name and every one of them questions asking for help concerning Cebu, Chiangmai, Kuala Lumpur, Kuching, Penang and now Jakarta, I suggest it is payback time Kangoo. Maybe start by posting reports for some of the other cities you have already asked for help with.

Please enjoy your visit to Tropical Spa and tell everyone about it with a post here afterwards.

Kind regards.

Attracted by couriousity, since you see the coulored building on the other side of the Tollroad at Taman Aggrek, everytime you go to the airport, I decided to stop by on my way back from Singapore.

They have a regular Spa on the 3rd floor but if you go down to the 2nd floor via emergency stairs, you reach the full service area with a lot of girls.

The infrastructure is comparable to the one at Alexis or Sumo.

They have PRC and local gal's working there. Local's prices start at 500K-700K (for 1h10min) and PRC's at 900K for 45 min or 1,5jt for 1h30.

All the ladies look very cute, so I chosed a local for 700K and on we went to the nice and clean room.

The problem was that already the girl started to tell me in the lift that she was new there. Once in the room she said "malu" (she feels ashame) when it was about time to take the shower. I tried to be comprehensive and to be extremly nice with her, but after 10 minutes with nothing going on I decided to leave.

Then she asked me to wait until the hour was over in order not to have problems with the mamasan. You may laugh, but I felt sorry for her, so i tried to make her understand that I would have agreed to recieve a massage with covered BJ. She did't even agree on that so that was enaugh for me.

The cherry on top was that she even had the guts to ask me for the tip!!!!

I went down and I complained with the mamasan. First she told me that she could'nt guarantee for the service since I chosed the girl myself without asking her about eventual qualities of the gal (?!?!?!?). I told her in my indonesian that the situation was alike going to the bakery and the baker refuses to sell you bread.

I asked then if I had to pay, and she said that the cashier is upstairs. I made myself clearer explaining her that I was not willing to pay for sth I did not "consume", after a negotiation of about 20 minutes we agreed (after she had called some "low level bodyguards") that I had to pay only 200k for the room.

It's the first time that such a situation happened to me in about 1,5 years of mongering in Jkt, but anyway, short, IMHO that is a place to avoid!

Cheers, CF68