Bangkok Massage Parlors - Except TULIP and ANNIES!

[QUOTE=Paebiifm;1489160]I'm assuming the aforementioned upscale massage parlors (Poseidon / Emmanuelle) allow the girls to come back to your hotel. I'm assuming that most guys will pay and then bring the girl back to the hotel with them. Out of curiosity, can you give the girl / mamasan your hotel name and room number and pay when she gets there? I'm sure there's some risk of the girl not arriving. Especially if she's paid in advance. Not that it's a big deal, just wondering how to crop some of the uncomfortability of traveling with a pro through town and then through the hotel lobby. I'm used to calling for fun in the US. But I love the face to face Asian selection process. First time. Headed to BKK for a few days and then Phuket for a week. Any Phuket (and Kata) suggestions would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]It is possible to establish a rapport with a lady at one of the upscale soapies, get her phone number and make arrangements (directly with her) to see her at your hotel. However, it is not common to see these ladies away from the venue. These establshments cater to Thai men living in Bangkok. Typically, they are only interested in seeing the ladies in the venue, which has very nice facilities including a bar, restaurant, often a cabaret with floor shows and multi-room suites in which several men are entertained by several ladies. The venues are designed so everything you could want is right there. Most of the girls have very limited, if any, knowledge of English, and are more comfortable with Thai men than farangs. If you browse the websites, you will see a surcharge is added for farangs. Of course it helps if the farang speaks Thai.

If you want outcall with a lady who is accustomed to working with farangs, stick with Annie's, Cherry, Mango, EZ1, EZ2, etc. Pick your lady, call the MP, place your order and pay the lady when she is ready to leave. Unless you are familiar with the ladies it is best to go to the MP, ask for a lineup (don't just pick a lady from photoshopped pictures in a photo album) and take your pick. It is always a good idea to make sure the lady provides the specific services you require. I always inquire about a-level, even BBBJ as a CBJ just doesn't do it for me. It is also a good idea to ask about DATY and DFK. Generally, the ladies at MPs known for PSE (such as Cherry and Mango) provide these services. I inquire just to make sure events in the room transpire in a manner to my liking. If you have a good session with the lady and wish to see her again, arrange to see her on outcall. Personally, I prefer to see the ladies on outcalls, though a few sessions in a few different MPs is an experience every first time visitor to Bangkok should have.

[QUOTE=Paul Kausch; 1489195]It is possible to establish a rapport with a lady at one of the upscale soapies, get her phone number and make arrangements (directly with her) to see her at your hotel. However, it is not common to see these ladies away from the venue. These establshments cater to Thai men living in Bangkok.

Paul is right. It makes no sense to get outcall from a soapie directly. It's very expensive and they usually only do it a couple of hours before the place closes. Test her out at the parlor first, then get her number. It will be much cheaper that way and she will make more.

[QUOTE=Paul Kausch; 1474591]So Cherry Massage has a new owner.

I was sorry to read that Apple is not readily available to anyone other than her regular customers. Can anyone confirm this?

Have any of you guys who are regular customers noticed any changes, either for the better.[/QUOTE]I can dispel this one. Just had a two hour session with Apple and I am not a regular. It was early and there were only four girls available, Apple being one of the. I had her once before in Mango. Great performance this time, same as last. A+ was not on the menu, tickled her rosebud a couple of times and had my hand moved away. No problem to me, she makes up for it in so many different ways. I'm sure she was trying to kill me though; I think she runs on Duracell.

[QUOTE=Paul Kausch;1489195]If you want outcall with a lady who is accustomed to working with farangs, stick with Annie's, Cherry, Mango, EZ1, EZ2, etc. Pick your lady, call the MP, place your order and pay the lady when she is ready to leave. Unless you are familiar with the ladies it is best to go to the MP, ask for a lineup (don't just pick a lady from photoshopped pictures in a photo album) and take your pick. It is always a good idea to make sure the lady provides the specific services you require. I always inquire about a-level, even BBBJ as a CBJ just doesn't do it for me. It is also a good idea to ask about DATY and DFK. Generally, the ladies at MPs known for PSE (such as Cherry and Mango) provide these services. I inquire just to make sure events in the room transpire in a manner to my liking. If you have a good session with the lady and wish to see her again, arrange to see her on outcall. Personally, I prefer to see the ladies on outcalls, though a few sessions in a few different MPs is an experience every first time visitor to Bangkok should have.[/QUOTE]This is very helpful advice. Many thanks. When you mention pay her when she's ready to leave (from the MPs listed above) , does it happen that she takes the $ and never arrives? On a similar topic, can this also be done at gogo bars etc? Take out without physically taking her out of the establishment yourself?

[QUOTE=Canyon; 1489214][QUOTE=Paul Kausch; 1489195]It is possible to establish a rapport with a lady at one of the upscale soapies, get her phone number and make arrangements (directly with her) to see her at your hotel. However, it is not common to see these ladies away from the venue. These establshments cater to Thai men living in Bangkok.

Paul is right. It makes no sense to get outcall from a soapie directly. It's very expensive and they usually only do it a couple of hours before the place closes. Test her out at the parlor first, then get her number. It will be much cheaper that way and she will make more.[/QUOTE]Thanks again and any redundancy of the question. With the make-up of this forum, it's tough to keep track of posts. Probably no outcall on soapies probably then unless its a date later on. Looking for a fresher times (as best as can be) and not the last guy at the very end of the evening.

[QUOTE=Sonic Bam;1489277]I can dispel this one. Just had a two hour session with Apple and I am not a regular. It was early and there were only four girls available, Apple being one of the. I had her once before in Mango. Great performance this time, same as last. A+ was not on the menu, tickled her rosebud a couple of times and had my hand moved away. No problem to me, she makes up for it in so many different ways. I'm sure she was trying to kill me though; I think she runs on Duracell.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the information. I'm planning to book her for my December trip. I want to be able to tell my grandchildren that I f*cked the famous Apple. Wonder if a-level is permanently off the menu or if she just gives her a$$ a break from time to time. Based on what I've read and heard, it sounds like that a$$ has been subjected to some pretty rough treatment.

By the way, have you, or any of you other readers, had any sessions with Ben? I sent an email inquiring about duos and got some recommendations. Then I clarified that I wanted a hard core lesbian duo. I was told some of the ladies who were originally recommended would not be good choices for that, specifically BB and Ploy. I was told Ben and Vodka were a good lesbian duo. I am aware of the reports on Vodka, including the fairly recent report on Ploy and Vodka, who were recommended as a good duo so long as there was minimal lesbian action. Apparently Ploy doesn't get into licking other ladies' pu$$ies. Has anyone done a duo with Ben and Vodka?

[QUOTE=Paebiifm;1489298]This is very helpful advice. Many thanks. When you mention pay her when she's ready to leave (from the MPs listed above) , does it happen that she takes the $ and never arrives? On a similar topic, can this also be done at gogo bars etc? Take out without physically taking her out of the establishment yourself?[/QUOTE]For inhouse sessions some MPs have you pay up front, others let you pay at the end of the session. With an outcall you just contact the MP and make the booking. The lady shows up at your hotel. If you don't like the way she looks give her a few hundred baht for the taxi and send her on her way. If you like her, have your fun and pay her when your done. I suppose some ladies ask for the money when they arrives, but I've never experienced that.

It's not uncommon for guys to exchange contact information with a gogo girl and see her when she's not working. The way this usually works is a guy will bar fine the girl and do an ST or LT with her. If the chemistry is good, they will exchange information and make arrangements to start seeing each other.

[QUOTE=Paebiifm;1489306]Thanks again and any redundancy of the question. With the make-up of this forum, it's tough to keep track of posts. Probably no outcall on soapies probably then unless its a date later on. Looking for a fresher times (as best as can be) and not the last guy at the very end of the evening.[/QUOTE]Timing is important. Some of the popular ladies at the Sukhumvit oilies do 5 or 6 guys a day, day after day, all week long. Not long ago there was a post by a guy who was trying to get a session with a lady who was at her wits end because her pu$$y was worn out from too much f*cking that day. I suspect her a$$ was also suffering. I'd hate to be the last guy on the last day before the lady's day off. Generally the ladies work in two shifts. Some come in when they open and leave early; others show up late afternoon and stay until closing. Showing up at the beginning of a shift is a good plan.

I know people see Angels as hit or miss but I have a favourite working there that does it for me every time. I had a couple of hours to kill before going for a flight so decided to see if she was working. It was early (12:15) and she is "on holiday" so browsed the album to see who was. I was looking at two and got "not here yet" for both. Mama then decided to show me who was, only 4 or 5 girls. Should have moved then but decided to give Ice a go. Huge mistake.

Get to the room, no smile or attempt to chat yet, very serious young lady. She Speaks no English and me no Thai. She strips and her body is not great. Shower, on to bed, light massage on back, flip and oil is straight on to the groin. She gets the required response and the condom comes out. Ah well, CBJ. No, she's straight on her back and teliing me to climb on. Starfish. Turn her round for doggy and she won't position herself right despite trying to gently move her. She moves, couple of light thrusts and she moves back. After a few minutes of this she looks over her shoulder, taps her wrist and gestures to go faster. This was about half way through the 90mins paid for. I get my watch out and try to show her 45mins more and just get a blank look. Shower time, I'm not wasting any more time. Now she shows some energy trying to drag me back on the bed and stopping me getting in the shower, the most animated she'd been since we got in the room. So finally she showers, we dress then she doesn't want to leave the room. I walk, she follows. Pity it's a pay up front place.

No way I'll repeat with this one. She has a kind of Japanese look about her so maybe her style works with them. I will use Angels again as I have that fave that works there and I've only had two maybe three duds in the numerous times I've been there. Guess that's the gamble of Angels and being an early customer.

Some people have mentioned Kristen from Angels on here. She's not in the book though still on the web site.

This video reveals why those ladies never look the same as in their pictures.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=8bVAl73JvLM[/url]

A pox on Adobe for unleashing this execrable application on the world!

Very good service in Japanese Massage shop.

You will get feeling you like king of service.

Just try it you will know it different another service.

[QUOTE=Paul Kausch; 1490445]This video reveals why those ladies never look the same as in their pictures.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=8bVAl73JvLM[/url]

A pox on Adobe for unleashing this execrable application on the world![/QUOTE]Making massage ladies look different from the way they can ever be in real life is a kind of false advertising.

It would be okay to put on some make up and get the lady to smile, because she can be like that for real at least some of the time. But changing the shape of her body and face in the picture with computer technology is like making a picture of an entirely different person, because she can never look like this in real life.

This is a bait and switch kind of deception. They show you a picture of a woman who doesn't exist in real life, and then get you to be with another woman who has the same name but her looks are different.

The Cherry Massage website now shows you just how unrealistic the computer-enhanced pictures of their ladies are. Because they put on their website some un-enhanced pictures of each lady in addition to the computer enhanced pictures. They probably did it because they had some complaints about the bait and switch kind of deception.

[url]http://cherrymassagebkk.com/ladies/[/url]

I actually like the Cherry Massage ladies more in their natural pictures than the computer enhanced pictures. Because they are smiling more and look more friendly and natural in their amateur pictures.

Also, hiding the lady's age with computer enhancement can backfire on them. Because not every guy likes women in their early 20s. Some guys like me prefer women in their 30s and even 40's.

Cherry Massage computer-enhanced pictures of lady Ann didn't do much for me. I wasn't attracted to her, until I saw the way she looked in her amateur pictures at the website. She looks a lot more attractive to me in her amateur pictures than the computer-enhanced pictures.

[QUOTE=Dan7373; 1490682]The Cherry Massage website now shows you just how unrealistic the computer-enhanced pictures of their ladies are. Because they put on their website some un-enhanced pictures of each lady in addition to the computer enhanced pictures. They probably did it because they had some complaints about the bait and switch kind of deception.

[url]http://cherrymassagebkk.com/ladies/[/url][/QUOTE]I think the operative phrase is "less photo-shop" pictures. One example [and there are more] is Su. She has a huge tatto not shown, and her boobs in first 4-5 pictures are definitive not hers!

And for what photo-shop can do, see this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bVAl73JvLM

[QUOTE=Dan7373; 1490682]Making massage ladies look different from the way they can ever be in real life is a kind of false advertising.

I actually like the Cherry Massage ladies more in their natural pictures than the computer enhanced pictures. Because they are smiling more and look more friendly and natural in their amateur pictures.[/QUOTE]I agree. Cherry's website allows you to cast a vote for your preference, realistic vs altered photos. Last time I checked the result was about 98-99% in favor of the real photos. I'm okay with what Annie's appears to do. I found a YouTube video of a lineup and I would say for the most part the ladies looked like their photos. I could pick out several of them, #20, #8 and #87, without trying to read their number. For the most part they seem to clean up but not alter the images. EZ1 / EZ2 / AllStar is another matter. They acknowledge that many of the ladies are unrecognizable from their pictures. If you ask, they will tell you which ladies do and don't look like their pictures. It's nice to know a lady doesn't look like her picture, but I would be far nicer to know what she really looks like. I've been told often it is the ladies, not the MP, that are demanding heavily photoshopped pictures are used.

[QUOTE=Paul Kausch;1490741]I've been told often it is the ladies, not the MP, that are demanding heavily photoshopped pictures are used.[/QUOTE]Perhaps this is a way for the ladies to hide their identities. Because if their pictures don't look like they do in real life, then they can't be recognized by employers, neighbors, friends, and family.

It's better for the ladies to have an altered picture than no picture at all. Because this way they at least attract the attention of some guys and get a chance to do some business with them, even though some guys might not be happy about getting someone other than what they've seen in the picture.

But this is a bad way to do business, because many customers lose trust for the whole establishment, and they might not want to come back there just for this reason alone.

A better way to do it would be to obscure the lady's face, the way some ladies do at the Annie's Massage website. This way the ladies get to hide their identities, and their customers don't get deceived because they can see what's going on. You need a balance between the interests of the ladies and the interests of their customers to have a fair treatment for all and no hard feelings from anyone.