First post from long-time lurker.
Okay Gentlemen, I have been lurking on this forum for a long time and never thought I'd actually register and post, but a recent experience I had was so incredible that I just have to ask you wise and experienced gentleman some advice.
This one particular experience happened in Ensenada, but the question is a general one that just as well applies to Tijuana. I've had plenty of Tijuana experience (and stories too) over the years, so I'm assuming it's okay to post in this forum. If I'm wrong on this, please correct me and I'll apologize for any unintended breach of protocol, and re-post.
First a bit of background, then my question. I'm not going to go into great detail about my origins and experiences I've had in 30+ years (off and on) of enjoying the pleasures of working girls through Mexico, but the very basics are that I've lived in San Diego from age 18 (Bay Area before that) and am 56 now. At various periods in my life, I have occasionally partaken of the services of working girls, usually in Tijuana since it's so close to home, but also Ensenada and Los Cabos.
But I've never been a regular at it. Typically I've done this when I was not dating anyone (I. E. When I was 'between girlfriends') and certainly not when I was married from 1992. 2005.
But I'm a native Californian who has had various travels throughout Mexico since my teenaged years (and actually lived there for close to a year back in the early 80's) , I speak Spanish well enough to generally communicate, and over the years I've gotten Tijuana and northern Baja wired enough that I could almost come across as a local. I still love the place and all of the pleasures it has to offer, especially those pleasures discussed on this forum (even though I totally stayed away during the horrible narco cartel years of 2006-2012 but that era seems past now, at least in Baja).
Again, I've plenty of experiences in Zona Norte, but never on a regular basis. And typically whenever I've made a trip to Tijuana for a session (usually Adelita's although occasionally HK and other past clubs) , it's been a real get-in-and-get-out-quick kind of thing. I was never looking for a GFE, I'd usually go during a period when I didn't have a regular GF and the pressure of no poontang would just get too much and Rosy Palm just wouldn't cut it. Sometimes you just finally need a real live woman to come in.
But it's always been something I've done just to 'get it out of my system' (almost ashamedly) , so I'd check the border wait times beforehand and time it so I can drive down and park on this side of the line, head to Zona Norte and do my thing, and get back home in less than 3 hours, around $100 poorer, mas o menos (cost of girl, Cascadas room, taxi both ways, parking, a drink or two for me and a ficha or two for the girl).
As with most of the postings on this forum, my quality of experience in Tijuana has varied from horrible to excellent, but my M. O. Has always been: Negotiate price and service downstairs, head upstairs with the girl and pay for room, do the sexo thing fairly quickly, and then back downstairs straight into the cab to the border and home.
So, all that being said, what has prompted me to post on here, and what is my question for you fine experienced gentleman? Well, what happened is that last weekend, on a lark I went with an out-of-town buddy to Ensenada (where I hadn't been in quite a few years) for a quick overnite trip of partying / shipping. And, of course, we figured we may try out one of the "working girls" there if the situation seemed right.
And there in Ensenada (of all places) , with a SG I had my first real GFE that was so amazing, so awesome, so unexpected, so one-of-a-kind (and I've had some "real" girlfriends who were pretty good in this area) that it floored me. And it has been on my mind alot since then. And I know I have to go back to have her again.
BUT. I'm experienced enough at this to know that it's the kiss of death if you ever lose your head, and your sense of reason, with one of these hot little Latina working girls, no matter how good, how enticing, how intoxicating, how loving or how orgasmic she may be or how much she rocks your world, or how much you want to think that she's only that way with you.
Anyway. This chica was a little brunette who turned out to be a full-on nympho. I mean truly a nympho in the clinical sense, who just couldn't get enough. I mean the horniest little thing I have ever been with, who just absolutely loved the sex with me and I am certain that (knowing what experts they all are at faking it) she came repeatedly because. Unless I have made it this age not knowing as much about female anatomy as I thought I did. I don't think they can fake the physical signs. Like vaginal muscle spasms (felt like a warm wet vice grip) , eyes rolling back in head, breathing changes, and other physical manifestations.
Brunette, about 5'3, about 25 years old, cute and sexy. Not an immediate knockout (about a 7) to look at when dressed but a fine little firm sexy body once those clothes came off. I'm pretty sure she was just a SG because a local guy we'the be hanging with brought her over. She asked for $60 for a half-hour (BTW prices seem to be higher in Ensenada than Tijuana) but we ended up spending two hours in the room doing it non-stop, and I still just paid her $60 when done and she didn't ask for any more or a tip.
Two hours almost straight. She just kept wanting it more and more, the only reason we stopped is because my buddy wanted to come back in the room. It was outstanding. Literally blew my mind. With plenty of V's, I was ready to go all night with her.
And I never thought I'd say this about a hooker, but I liked her demeanor, her personality, and mind. She was actually very pleasing to be with, very pleasant, and surprisingly intelligent. We talked about music, pop culture, world politics, etc. She had her own little iPod and speakers with quite a music selection. She seemed to genuinely enjoy my company. Not at all jaded like some of these 40-something working girls can be who put on an incredible show downstairs in the club but turn into a robot upstairs. In fact, it's too bad she's a working girl because she'the actually be a great girlfriend! Obviously would / could never happen, but nice to fantasize!
Anyway, I got her phone number before she left, waited five days, and just called her tonite to set up a full-on overnite session next week, something I've never ever done with one of these girls. I told her I'd meet her at the hotel at 5, and I told her I'd include taking her out to dinner, maybe even dancing, but a lot of time in that room doing it. She'll stay overnite and leave the next morning. She enthusiastically agreed to this when I asked. In fact, she actually seemed a little bit surprised (in a cute way) about it. I don't know, maybe she faked her surprise, but that, along with her young age and other little signs I noticed, makes me think she may be fairly new at this as she didn't do some of the things I've seen more experienced and jaded girls do.
So here's my question: How much should I have offered her for this? I think I may have made a mistake and opened my big mouth and offered too much. After she agreed to meet me for the over-nighter, I asked her how much she wanted for this, and at first she said she needed to think about it, but then she asked me how much I wanted to pay her for it and. For some stupid reason. I opened my bigh mouth and offered her $150.
I'm usually a hard negotiator with these girls. But I'm used to doing it at the table downstairs in the club, and it's usually for a quick half-hour (or maybe an hour) session arriba. This whole concept of actually calling up one of these girls on her phone (with children crying and other home noises in background) to set up a whole overnite meeting in my own hotel room is new territory for me. My negotiating experience has always been in the strip club / bordello environment of HK, Adelita's, Chicago Club, etc.
Anyway, we set up our date for 5 PM next week and I told her I'the call her again at about 1 PM that same day before leaving S. D. Just to confirm that she absolutely will be there.
So my questions are:
1) Was $150 too to much to offer (for a 5 PM meet at hotel and stay overnite until next day)? If so, is the right thing to do to just pay it since I offered it, or should I try to re-negotiate once we meet at the hotel? Or even try to renegotiate with her on the phone when I call her to that afternoon to confirm before heading out on the day of meeting?
2) We agreed to meet at 5 PM and that she'll stay until 'the next morning, ' but what does that typically mean? Is she going to wake up and have breakfast and we can get down in the room until checkout time, or will she disappear at 5 AM while I'm sleeping and I wake up with my dick in my hand? Should I discuss this on the phone with her next week during my confirmation call before departing, or wait to bring it up until we're in the room?
Anyway, sorry for the long rambling post, and thanks in advance for ANY comments / advice any of you can give me. In return, I'll do my part and post follow-up trip reports, not only from this one but also trips to Tijuana.
Thanks!
Damn that bad luck. Collapsing toll road may put the kibosh on trip!
[QUOTE=Keg; 1512934]Nice trip report. Sounds like you found a diamond in the rough, and are on the way to cultivating a nice arrangement.
Your questions about the pricing sound like you have a good deal in place, and don't need any advice. You'd be surprised that there are guys that go to clubs like Hong Kong and pay $100 for a half-hour without negotiating, and receive only standard service.
While I go to Tijuana frequently, I haven't been to Ensenada in years. I'd like to get back down there. I've heard the toll road has suffered some significant damage and is closed, but you should verify this and confirm with your chica.
Cheers,
Keg[/QUOTE]Oh no! I just heard a report on the news that made me check on-line and you were right, Keg. A big section of the toll road just above Ensenada did completely collapse this week. Must've happenned sometime after my trip down there last Sunday!
In fact, the collapse was exactly at that rough, corkscrew section I had interpreted (in my previous post) as being 'under construction. ' When driving thru that section in the dark last Sunday, my assumption was that it was simply a section of the road undergoing a periodic repaving project – but apparently it was actually them trying to shore it up after it got damaged in an earthquake last month.
Apparently they were unsuccessful because sometime this week that whole damn mountainous section of the road just collapsed into the valley below. Glad I wasn't on it at the time!
Wow. What unbelievable timing. Just before my highly anticipated return trip for the best nookie I've had in years and years. Maybe this is a sign that I'm just not meant to go down there. Either that or it sure feels like a curse of bad luck directed specifically at me, I. E. Now that, after many years, I've finally found something worth travelling to down there, and have been looking forward to it all week with great anticipation, and. POOF. I literally lose the road I need underneath my wheels. Damn, Damn, Damn!
Anyway, I'm going to have to study the detour maps on-line and decide what to do. They say the detour (on the free road) adds only 1-2 hours, but I'm not sure how keen I am on taking it. Aapprently you have to get off the toll road at Salsipuedes, go inland for 15 miles and come back towrds the coast for 15 miles and it drops you back onto the toll road just 5 miles past where you had to detour off it. Sheesh, what a lousy turn of events!
I took your advice and went to Ensenada
[QUOTE=Keg; 1513565]Fuck it, just go. The detour is just a minor inconvenience. IMHO, it's best to strike while the iron is hot with these chicas.
Have fun, looking forward to the trip report.
Cheers,
Keg[/QUOTE]Thanks for the encouragement. I went ahead and made the trip and yes, I'm glad I went but can't give full trip report now because I'm actually typing this report Monday nite on my ancient phone's message screen while she sleeps next to me as the all-nite porno plays on the TV. Will upload it when I get home Tuesday.
Not quite as good as last time but no complaints. I tore it up for some extended sessions and she had multiple big O's again (mish and modified doggie seemed to ring her bell best). She's certainly not a technical expert (I. E. Like some of these older women who can bring you to nirvana all nite with almost no effort on your part) , but what she lacks in that she makes up by just being an enthusiastic chick who likes to be repeatedly boinked hard all nite and doesn't seem to get sore or be anything other than ready to go again, and she seems to come every session. I asked if this happens to her often with her "clients" and she said no, it's very very rare and, other than when she had a boyfriend, I'm the only one who does this to her, but ha ha, I take that with the usual grain of salt. What is genuine, though, is her extreme enthusiasm for fucking really hard and really long every time.
Anyway, had three good hard sessions tonite, with an intermission for an excellent Ensenada Baja-style mariscos dinner that I went out and brought back to the room, but only had one pop due to too much V, and some other pharmaceuticals that have no effect on performance but does tend to inhibit that second pop within the same evening). I'll shoot (pun intended) for pop number two before departure Tuesday morning.
Regarding the road / detour: you take the toll road as normal until they put you off of it at La Fonda, where you are routed onto the 'old' Hwy 1 (Libre). It goes inland for a short bit but then turns south and basically parallels the toll road until it rejoins the main drag into Ensenada at San Miguel, thus the total trip mileage this way isn't much different from having taken the toll road the whole way way.
The Libre isn't a bad road. This was my first time on it since the old Tecate< Ensenada bike race I used to ride in the 80's. It's sharp, curvy and mountainous in some spots, but also some long straight sections. Not unlike any mountain road here in Cali. Overall the pavement's in good shape except for a short construction stretch in La Mision and then again just before it joins back up with the main route at San Miguel.
The problem. Though, is trucks, trucks and more trucks. The roadbed is two-lane narrow the whole way with steep drop-off's, and mountainous and curvy in some spots, and everybody gives the trucks wide birth. There are no passing zones and bobody passes the trucks, and if you value your life, you won't either. Thus, even though the detour on the camino libre doesn't hardly add additional kilometers to the trip, it certainly can add additional time, and alot more wear and tear on your car.
So, in general I'd say unless you have a particular reason to go to Ensenada before then, wait until the toll road is fixed or just stick with Tijuana. Speaking of which, final note: I may not need to come to Ensenada again because she's expressed her willingness to take the bus to Tijuana to meet me there for a one or two niter. I may or may not do this, since this extra convenience comes at an extra cost. I mean, if I'm really going to do this, doesn't it make sense to just find someone local rather than importing talent from 100 kilometers away?
But if I do, have you guys got any suggestions on a nice hotel to book in Tijuana for an overniter or a weekend? Unless you advise otherwise, I'the prefer some place not in Zona Rio, but rather a more tourist / business type of place. And hopefully reasonably priced, with perhaps not-too-far access to dining and dancing. For some reason the only name I remember from 20 years ago is El Presidente, is that place even still around anymore?
Thanks again all, for your great advice, and Feliz Año Nuevo!
Tijuana on New Year's Eve
My first time in Tijuana on NYE was last night. Taxis were hard to come by, Pharmacies closed early, and men outnumbered chicas in the clubs. I have to say NYE is one of the worst nights to be in Tijuana. Nevertheless, I was still able to hook up with two chicas. I guess this just proves how reliable a place Tijuana is for hooking up regardless of the adverse circumstances.
