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[QUOTE=MrHo;1865784]Authority has very weak ground for this. Plus it is normal for brothel to have rules not just girls, but we men also have to follow.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MrHo;1865719]
Artemis is one of the most legit club I went in Germany and I was never offered drugs in there or saw anyone doing it or face any negativity in there beside girl up selling once in a while. Girls upsell because they work for themselves, it is normal that us clients and girls both follow the house rule.[/QUOTE]You don't get it. It's not about being legit or if rules are necessary or not. It's about tax evasion. Authorities point is that girls were not self employed but employees of the club. If they can prove this the club will have to pay millions. Still prostitution is legal, girls and guests were just witnesses and not accused.
HB.
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[QUOTE=MrHo;1865977]
It is scary how one day to another German government can put a guy into 23 million euro debt.[/QUOTE]German government doesn't put anybody into debt. There will be a trial (probably) and then they will come to a decision.
HB.
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[QUOTE=MrHo;1865977]They, but Spanish police with co-operation with German police raided their Majorca base of hells angel few years ago according to news papers, but whether hells angel came into club or not, owner brothers are not in hells angel. So I do not know why police has to conduct major raid like Artemis is owned by hells angel because it is not and as far as I know there are no tie to them.
[/QUOTE]Prostitution, drugs, and organized crime are generally interlinked. Not uncommon for criminal organizations to have "legitimate" business men run their "legitimate" businesses. Article mentions trafficking. If Artemis knew about this and didn't report it, they could be held accountable--especially if the WG's are under the legal age. Also a large percentage of the WG's at Artemis are probably "property" of HA.
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Current position?
[QUOTE=Sybarite2006;1865898]
I think the Club will be open once they've got their tax money back and put those they've targeted away. Probably under new management or something. This raid doesn't suddenly make FKKs illegal in Germany![/QUOTE]So is the club now closed? Whilst that would seem natural and obvious there were reports of it being open the next day and some (brave) customers going in. Does anybody know? I was due to be further south next week but if the club is open I would like to try to get there. Not so much because of the LU (whatever is left of it) but to support it. I like this club. I am saddened that this has happened. I can only hope that if customers still rock up to it (excuse the pun) it might be that it gets to stay open. But if it's closed already I suppose that's it for while at least in Berlin. What a great shame.
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Artem (IS)
I was sitting by myself in the Artemis restaurant eating overcooked potatoes staring at the dark clouds over Berlin. At that moment there were no policemen present outside the club. Only expensive cars and turkish cab drivers with dead eyes and huge stomachs.
Went to the kino on the ground floor. While the blonde girl from the movie was drinking sperm after a rather hard ass pounding, I was hoping for something / someone special to provide some first aid to this introvert creature in the mirror. Ignored some of the useless hast du lust schatzy approaches. And then she came;.
Because of the details, I want to protect her identity, though if you are a respectable senior member without any connections to Hells Angels or Holy bikers of Allah, send me a PM.
She is no mainstream girl, she gives what I would call unique vibes. Not the most beautiful girl in Halenseestrasse, not a big issue, since I seldom receive invitations from Calvin Klein and Dolce Gabbana to be their poster boy myself. We went to the zimmer. She wanted 150 for an hour and she would guarantee good service. Was on my way out and told her I usually get good service without over paying. But the situation was difficult, I needed her service and she my money. We hated each other, but we were trapped on a distant island. Money man and pussy girl needed team building. "I try 30 minutes and maybe extend to 1 h. ".
DFK, caressing, lots of touching, real GFE. Great start, changed to 69. Small round ass, perfectly shaped pussy lips, tight delicate asshole. Scratching my balls and back door while performing a wet BJ. Sucking balls and continued to give maximal attention to my cock and ass. Lick ass? -Ok! It was so spectacular that my boner reached historical strength. The quality of her work was so surprisingly good that I almost went to a state of trance. On with the rubber and some heavy pounding in doggy. Tight pussy and responsive girl. Did not want to finish, was not ready to end this journey yet. Back to 69. Her tongue licked balls and ass while she was stroking my cock. Sometimes in life I feel like my erection is immortal, this was one of those days. Suddenly she started to kick my face with her feet. Quite hard, but controlled. Put her toes in my mouth, still kicking with the other foot. Laid beside me and slapped my face with the palm of her hand. Angry eyes. WTF? Began spitting on my face, while slapping for another minute. I did not stop her, I was perplexed and surprised. "I want to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] in your mouth, come, get on the floor" She put a towel on the carpet, and actually gave me no option. I was not in a condition to make any decision, and her drive and energy reminded me of Queens spectacular 25 minutes at Live Aid in 1985. Hell, why not, I have to try this before I die, right? 69 on the floor.
From my point of view a fascinating sight. Imagine a flower opening its blades in slow motion, Her labia minor moving to each side and a stream of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url] hitting my mouth. Huge amount, what should I do with this, the towel was not thick enough to protect the new carpet. Too much empathy. Swallowed it! Holy fuck, I would rather order an Apfelschorle for free in the bar, than paying 50 for this. She moved forward and started pissing on my cock while she played with my balls. I thought, small lady with huge bladder. Continued for a few seconds and returned back to 69. Oh no, I could not repeat this, but too late, she sprayed my face and I kept my mouth shut. At last, she was empty, we stood up and she dried my face and body. "Lay down" she commanded me. I felt like I was a hostage of the perverted department of ISIS. I did obey, and she put a chewing gum in my mouth without warning. Nice taste of tropical fruit. Another wave of hitting and spitting followed while she was squeezing my balls till I had to remove her hand because of pain. Stood up and kicked my body and face, did som stepping also. She gave me the evil eye and said " want to suck your dick". Forceful sucking until a strong CIM. Come, I will give you massage. 15 minutes of top notch skilled treatment, one of the best I have had. Normally a decent Thai-massage has an effect until the day after, but this creature worked on my shoulder, neck and head, twisting my spine, and still after 3 weeks I could feel the muscular relieve.
"Ok, go and shower and give me 300". Huge smile on her face. I overpaid with a smile on my face. Think we stayed 75 minutes. Do not know. It was a fantastic experience, her program was scheduled seamlessly as if it was manufactured by Apple Inc software department.
The combination of violence and sex was great, I would definitely repeat. But next time I bring my own Apfelschole from the main bar.
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[QUOTE=McAdonis;1866010]Prostitution, drugs, and organized crime are generally interlinked. Not uncommon for criminal organizations to have "legitimate" business men run their "legitimate" businesses. Article mentions trafficking. If Artemis knew about this and didn't report it, they could be held accountable--especially if the WG's are under the legal age. Also a large percentage of the WG's at Artemis are probably "property" of HA.[/QUOTE]Hmmm. So owners of the club could have been legitimate puppet is what you are possibly saying? Hmmm, it is possible, but I did not think so. He definitely did not seem average joe who worked in office and open FKK one day, but I strongly think he was not mob.
Maybe they should have put up a notice saying on front door something like: No biker gang allowed etc etc. So that on rainy day like this, they can say they took some pre caution for door control.
Well I guess police had stronger evidence than just some girl who broke up with HA boyfriend tipping them off.
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[QUOTE=Sybarite2006;1865898]An article in the London edition of The Guardian newspaper:
[URL]http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/apr/15/hells-angels-brothel-raided-by-900-officers-say-german-police[/URL]
I think the Club will be open once they've got their tax money back and put those they've targeted away. Probably under new management or something. This raid doesn't suddenly make FKKs illegal in Germany![/QUOTE]I hear club is open next day, so I presume it is open? Anyone?
I think Artemis should put some info up about this on their webpage whether it is open or not?
If it is open, has it affected LU in any ways??
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1866008]You don't get it. It's not about being legit or if rules are necessary or not. It's about tax evasion. Authorities point is that girls were not self employed but employees of the club. If they can prove this the club will have to pay millions. Still prostitution is legal, girls and guests were just witnesses and not accused.
HB.[/QUOTE]Well girls as we all know are independent to clubs, whether they have pimp or lover boy in their private lives are not in control of the club, it is the business of girls private lives. Artemis do not employ any of those girls beside cleaning ladies, chef, bar maid and receptionist that we definitely do not want to fuck even they pay us LOL.
As for rules of the club, that is something both clients and girls follow to have some kind of order like all other places have like in normal hotel, cafe, restaurant etc.
I think fed has different motive and using all this accusation to crash down these guys who run the club and also to cut business of H A, the organization which police are making moves in recent years (eg: big Majorca raid etc).
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It started well. Quite the litterate journey. But then. And over 300 for 75 min? This world never stop to baffle me.
Sounds like a story a sharky girl could come up with. Oh well...
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I manage to get myself pi$$ed and pi$$ed off, w / o getting pi$$ed on. I also manage to get into pi$$ing contests with a bunch of pi$$ants regularly. The other tendency I have is to be out on the pi$$ with my pi$$pot buddy who is full of pi$$ and vinegar but pi$$ away the friendship by pi$$ing in the pickles with my pi$$ poor pun.
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[QUOTE=MrHo;1866039]Well girls as we all know are independent to clubs, whether they have pimp or lover boy in their private lives are not in control of the club, it is the business of girls private lives. Artemis do not employ any of those girls beside cleaning ladies, chef, bar maid and receptionist that we definitely do not want to fuck even they pay us LOL.
As for rules of the club, that is something both clients and girls follow to have some kind of order like all other places have like in normal hotel, cafe, restaurant etc.
I think fed has different motive and using all this accusation to crash down these guys who run the club and also to cut business of H A, the organization which police are making moves in recent years (eg: big Majorca raid etc).[/QUOTE]You seem very naive.
DO you really not see that it's highly likely the Artemis folks could have been very involved in some highly illegal activities? It's not like there's no precedent in this sphere.
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And the follow-up question is if it's really Artemis only. Well, of course not and the German authorities knows as much.
[QUOTE=DethManRulz;1866063]You seem very naive.
DO you really not see that it's highly likely the Artemis folks could have been very involved in some highly illegal activities? It's not like there's no precedent in this sphere.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=DethManRulz;1866063]You seem very naive.
DO you really not see that it's highly likely the Artemis folks could have been very involved in some highly illegal activities? It's not like there's no precedent in this sphere.[/QUOTE]Tax I don't know, but for other things, they are not. I never seen them doing what they are accused of for past over 6 years I have been going there.
The management are legit and good people.
Whether girls have pimps or lover boy in their private lives, it is business of girls and not the club.
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Alternatives?
As I will be going to Berlin for business next Friday / Saturday I will pass by the club and give some feedback. What other club / place in Berlin, can you guys recommend if Artemis is closed? A place where you can take your time chill with a drink, watch and talk to the girls, before going to a room.
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Zimmerbaby gets the ROD
[QUOTE=Zimmerbaby;1866024]I was sitting by myself in the Artemis restaurant eating overcooked potatoes staring at the dark clouds over Berlin. The combination of violence and sex was great, I would definitely repeat. But next time I bring my own Apfelschole from the main bar.[/QUOTE]ZB -Ninja say thank Gods, finally interesting report vs all useless ace detective speculations. Gave you the ROD (to keep S&M spirit).
Ninja was at A last 2 nights. All open, all normal. Even food was good. Many talks with locals. Opinion is what happened not make sense on many levels and must be result other things going on. But maybe we just let legal system work, wait and see. Many outcomes possible, nothing clear.
Slightly less crowd than normal but this good thing. Plenty of options. Enjoy while it lasts.