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Vueling has pretty cheap flights to Spain. I don't remember if I flew to Madrid on Vueling, I definitely remember going to BCN from Frankfurt, I think the flight was something like 29 euro. Ridiculous, the cab to the airport cost more.

[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1797407]Question for you flight experts out there.

I'm looking to fly to Madrid, Spain and looking for good deals on the short flight in Europe. What are some good websites / airlines to look into? Anything that has comprehensive search specific to discount airlines would be ideal.

Thanks!

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[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1797682]Vueling has pretty cheap flights to Spain. I don't remember if I flew to Madrid on Vueling, I definitely remember going to BCN from Frankfurt, I think the flight was something like 29 euro. Ridiculous, the cab to the airport cost more.[/QUOTE]I can vouch for Vueling. They're a solid little airline that can get you easily all around Spain both quickly and safely.

Low cost carriers like Ryanair usually fly to Girona, 90 km from BCN, so check the details.

HB.

[QUOTE=HessenBub;1797731]Low cost carriers like Ryanair usually fly to Girona, 90 km from BCN, so check the details.

HB.[/QUOTE]Ryanair have really cut back on flights to Girona, particular outside of the summer season. It used to be a major hub for them, but it's a problem to get a flight this time of year. Nice town though.

[QUOTE=CitizenKane;1797456][URL]http://www.skyscanner.net/[/URL][/QUOTE]The award for the cheapest ticket found goes to CK. Congratulations, you won a visit to the Palace. :D

[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1799505]The award for the cheapest ticket found goes to CK. Congratulations, you won a visit to the Palace. :D[/QUOTE]Black Hawk down!

Some bits of info I collected.

A good explaination I got as to why Oase might be down from the past is that there are a lot more clubs with clientel distibuted over more clubs than in the past. So, more clubs, and less clientel to those clubs that had more in the past.

Last visit to Finca, I've noticed girls looking the types from World. I've heard Finca is same management as world.

What I've heard is YinYang is more Turks and that gave a negative connotation from a punter as a downside. With GT door policy, the Turkish in the region has to go somewhere.

Less clients at Oase, at World and at GT, and more at Sharks, just because of quality. Some go where beer is free, but most go where girls are good for look and services. At the moment, Oase is improving for girls.

Sudlander is German and is referring to Turkish by WGs. Not used positively by girls.

One girl said told me German and Dutch are, I forget how she described. Straight up? But, she had run into a Turkish does everything and not pay the extra. Hence, her stereotype, and likely experienced girls have run into those types that happens to be Turkish.

Girls prefer clients based on experiences.

I don't know how true this is, but a WG that left World told me she preferred another club because the clientel. She would have to session with a Hell at world.

Don't believe everything the girls tell you. "Südländer" doesn't refer to Turkish only, but as they are the biggest "foreign population" in Germany most girls set Turkish ="Südländer".

There's a surplus of clubs in Germany. Years ago there was no Mainhattan, Sharks, Rom, Royal, and&the, Feigenblatt, Club69. So there were more clients in the existing clubs (Oase, World, Palace). Now the number of clubs and girls has increased, but the number of clients hasn't increased linearly. And clients don't spend money as they did years ago, they don't visit as often or if they do they session less or spend less money per session.

HB.

[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1805609]I don't know how true this is, but a WG that left World told me she preferred another club because the clientel. She would have to session with a Hell at world.[/QUOTE]Hells guests problem for some girls is not only at World, but also at Sharks. Some girls are afraid of them, because they are muscle men and girls know they can't complain to the staff about them. Last Winter, I went to the staff who know me very well, to ask them: no hells guests for my girl, because she said me she was afraid of them. I know she had no problem about them at this moment, but as I was so often said to harass her for this and also about drunk Russian or french, so now, I can only wish her to never have problems with them, but can't do anything for her now. But I m sure her other regulars take care of her like me, being so courageous.

[QUOTE=HessenBub;1805627]There's a surplus of clubs in Germany. Years ago there was no Mainhattan, Sharks, Rom, Royal, and&the, Feigenblatt, Club69. So there were more clients in the existing clubs (Oase, World, Palace). Now the number of clubs and girls has increased, but the number of clients hasn't increased linearly. And clients don't spend money as they did years ago, they don't visit as often or if they do they session less or spend less money per session.[/QUOTE]So far I agree with all here. But one point I see different. Over the last years we have every year an increase of International guests at clubs for instance many Asians, Americans and from many European countries. Ten years ago at Oase I saw around 80% locals and only 20% international guests. Nowadays is completly opposite only max. 20% locals and around 80% international guests. And this is now same at Oase, Palace and Mainhattan and almost same conditions at Sharks. World comes close to this. Germany with it's FKK clubs is now a top destination for P6 worldwide. Many international business guys enjoy the evening in German clubs. Asian guys comes in group with more than 10 guys and a guide! Sometimes in the evening in the clubs. I know many Americans, Scandinavians or Italiens comming for some days to Germany only for FKK clubs, some guys spend even whole annual vacation at German FKK clubs. Without all this new international guests from the Frankfurt big5 clubs would maybe only survive two! Yep Germans spend less money at clubs but international compensate this. And unfortunately many of this international guests reduce the average service level in the clubs.

If US or China were geographically contiguous to Germany, these clubs would be inundated with Americans and Chinese. Especially with where euro is these days. Even in my limited experience, I see the international component growing. A couple of years ago, I saw a smaller number of foreigner types at Sharks; on a recent visit, that number was clearly much higher. As awareness of these clubs grows, I bet the international attendance graph will only head to the top right corner.

In a free market, prices should adjust. Artificial price controls only lead to distortions. I understand, from a local point of view it can appear that services got degraded, but the reality is that with the new supply / demand, that service from a few years ago is no longer available at that price. Since price was kept artificially flat, service degraded. If the European economy had been stronger, my view is that prices might have gone up by now. On the other hand, as Craiova astutely observed, supply could well have been cut in terms of number of clubs, if not for the international demand.