Sao Paulo Reports

My planning for this trip couldn't have been worse. Or maybe my memory of the talent here in So Paulo is tainted by the effects of time.

A few of you reached out to let me know that weekends are generally slow in SP. Even a couple of the girls in the club told me that. And that's definitely been my experience so far. Most of the girls working last night would have been just average at 4 x 4 in Rio. Light skin girls dominated, which was fine with me. I spoke to a couple that would have made the cut; one 19 yo with mind-blowing natural tits. And another with a pretty face and perfect English. But both were a no-go with BBBJ, and that was that. I would rather climb into a hot-tub with a suit of armor than get a blow job wearing a condom.

I realized quickly that reliving my Sao Paulo experience from years ago wouldn't happen. I hit the back bar to watch the first half of the Warriors vs Pelicans game, had a couple of drinks, paid my bill (335 for entry and drinks) and took an Uber back to the hotel. I did spot a r30 error on my bill that was quickly corrected. One of the managers came over, apologized and handed me his card. Nice touch. Very polite, professional staff.

One of the things that impressed me about Scandallo was just how massive it is. There is a huge patio around the back with semi-private cabanas. It seemed like at it's peak last night, between 11 pm and 1:30 am, the entire place was only at 25% capacity. At best! I would love to see that place when it's rocking at full capacity. Must be quite a scene (heavy sigh).

Now it's Sunday afternoon. I'm half-tempted to hit Bomboa, as I remember a late-afternoon session there that was pretty fucking great. But it was probably a Wednesday!! Dammit! Or I could find a sports bar and watch Barcelona clinch La Liga this afternoon and rest up for Rio tomorrow.

My colleague hit the road, and I'm running solo. It's days like today I wish I knew a local with knowledge of Sunday options.

Thanks again for those of you who reached out. Wish I had something better to report back to you, but not this weekend.

Cheers!

P.S. Anybody with ideas for a Sunday?

[QUOTE=Chezz;2173602]My planning for this trip couldn't have been worse. Or maybe my memory of the talent here in So Paulo is tainted by the effects of time.

A few of you reached out to let me know that weekends are generally slow in SP. Even a couple of the girls in the club told me that. And that's definitely been my experience so far. Most of the girls working last night would have been just average at 4 x 4 in Rio. Light skin girls dominated, which was fine with me. I spoke to a couple that would have made the cut; one 19 yo with mind-blowing natural tits. And another with a pretty face and perfect English. But both were a no-go with BBBJ, and that was that. I would rather climb into a hot-tub with a suit of armor than get a blow job wearing a condom.

I realized quickly that reliving my Sao Paulo experience from years ago wouldn't happen. [/QUOTE]Yes, it has been said as often as possible that the high end night clubs are best visited Tue-Thursday, any day outside of that range is going to be sub-optimal with Saturday night being the worst. Friday, Saturday, Sunday its best to try your luck at Cassarao. It is not luxurious, and there are a lot of real plain girls there but there will often be a few tops, even some of the girls that T-T are in the luxury clubs will go to Cassarao on Fri-Sat because they know there will be a lot of clients there, and its lot cheaper than the luxury clubs.

[QUOTE=HoustonPlayer;2173428]The problem is that unlike Rio, Sao Paulo is a business city, not a tourist city. So the clubs have their best talent during the week when the businessmen are in town not on the weekends.[/QUOTE]The same happens in Rio, Tuesday Wednesday and Thursday are the best days in Rio, on my last trip to SP I found mongering scene on weekends a bit dead but not more dead than in Rio.

Even in Rio, there are less girls in termas and clubs that open on Saturdays.

Weekends in SP are way better than in Rio de Janeiro.

[QUOTE=Rovnak;2173624]Yes, it has been said as often as possible that the high end night clubs are best visited Tue-Thursday, any day outside of that range is going to be sub-optimal with Saturday night being the worst. Friday, Saturday, Sunday its best to try your luck at Cassarao. It is not luxurious, and there are a lot of real plain girls there but there will often be a few tops, even some of the girls that T-T are in the luxury clubs will go to Cassarao on Fri-Sat because they know there will be a lot of clients there, and its lot cheaper than the luxury clubs.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I guess I'm not above making the occasional rookie mistake. Even after all these years. Live and learn. Thanks for the Cassarao tip! Appreciate it.

[QUOTE=Chezz;2173602]My planning for this trip couldn't have been worse. Or maybe my memory of the talent here in So Paulo is tainted by the effects of time.

A few of you reached out to let me know that weekends are generally slow in SP. Even a couple of the girls in the club told me that. And that's definitely been my experience so far. Most of the girls working last night would have been just average at 4 x 4 in Rio. Light skin girls dominated, which was fine with me. I spoke to a couple that would have made the cut; one 19 yo with mind-blowing natural tits. And another with a pretty face and perfect English. But both were a no-go with BBBJ, and that was that. I would rather climb into a hot-tub with a suit of armor than get a blow job wearing a condom.

I realized quickly that reliving my Sao Paulo experience from years ago wouldn't happen. I hit the back bar to watch the first half of the Warriors vs Pelicans game, had a couple of drinks, paid my bill (335 for entry and drinks) and took an Uber back to the hotel. I did spot a r30 error on my bill that was quickly corrected. One of the managers came over, apologized and handed me his card. Nice touch. Very polite, professional staff.

One of the things that impressed me about Scandallo was just how massive it is. There is a huge patio around the back with semi-private cabanas. It seemed like at it's peak last night, between 11 pm and 1:30 am, the entire place was only at 25% capacity. At best! I would love to see that place when it's rocking at full capacity. Must be quite a scene (heavy sigh).

Now it's Sunday afternoon. I'm half-tempted to hit Bomboa, as I remember a late-afternoon session there that was pretty fucking great. But it was probably a Wednesday!! Dammit! Or I could find a sports bar and watch Barcelona clinch La Liga this afternoon and rest up for Rio tomorrow.

My colleague hit the road, and I'm running solo. It's days like today I wish I knew a local with knowledge of Sunday options.

Thanks again for those of you who reached out. Wish I had something better to report back to you, but not this weekend.

Cheers!

P.S. Anybody with ideas for a Sunday?[/QUOTE]I'm sorry that I didn't open the board yestarday, Tangará had 25 girls avaliable! IMO the best alternative for Sundays.

[QUOTE=Chezz;2173645]Yeah, I guess I'm not above making the occasional rookie mistake. Even after all these years. Live and learn. Thanks for the Cassarao tip! Appreciate it.[/QUOTE]I was not suggesting you made a mistake, you said you wanted to go where there was the most eye candy. Even on a slow day, Scandalo probably has the most eye candy so I did not try to correct your original agenda. Going to Scandalo on Friday was probably the correct move trying to show your friends the best eye candy available at that time. Going back to Scandalo on Saturday was not a great idea be / see it was pretty much guaranteed to be a subset of the Friday selection.

With that said, I do think visitors have to adjust their expectations to the day and venue. When you compare the trip unfavorably to your past trip it is best to compare same venue on same day of week. Comparing Scandalo on Saturday in 2018 to Bomboa on Wedneday in 2015 is not a fair comparison, etc. SP is still full of talent, it just moves around with the day and time. Some clinicas are far better than they ever were, some clubs are far worse on slow days but still banging on good days. Cassarao is far better than it was, the higher end clubs have very good days and very slow days. The slow days are slower than they were. A lot of talent has moved to free lance mode and that is hit or miss for short time visitor but a bounty for longer term visits.

Please don't take this as criticism, your reports were great and hope you had a good time.

Cheers.

This was my first trip to Sao Paulo. I was there for 5 days, and visited 4 clinicas and 2 boates. I owe a big "Thank You" to folks who have contributed to the Sampa thread. Your reports made my trip so much easier. It felt like I have been there already and that I knew where everything was.

My background: I have been mongering for 20+ years, been to Rio several times in the late 90's and early 2000. In 2003, I needed to get a new visa, but the Brazilian lady consulate in San Francisco gave me such a hard time that I decided to visit Thailand that same year, and never looked back. I made one more trip to Rio in 2011, but the exchange rate was 1.6, another reason not to go back again. My portuguese used to be much better but I struggled on this trip, however my Spanish helped a bit.

Clinicas:

Miruna was the first clinica I went to. I was staying at the Mercure hotel in Moema, Ave. Lavandisca. I love to walk and it was an easy walk from the hotel to Miruna. Nothing much to see but the walk was quite pleasant, no hills and the sidewalks were quite even. The only issue was dog [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord116][CodeWord116][/url]. I had to keep my eyes down and sidestep it when I had to. It should be noted that both taxi and Uber were dirt cheap. I just love to walk, back in the states I hike every week.

In Miruna, Daniela grabbed my attention and she was it. In the room, she was very pleasant, accommodating, and customer oriented. I could not ask for more. Left the place with a smile on my face. I don't quite remember the damage but I think it was around 230 BRL.

Enjoy SPA:

After my session in Miruna, I wanted to check out Enjoy SPA. I was not planning to session again but just to locate it and get a feel for the line up. It was not meant to be that day. I got lost, and ended up on that multi-lane expressway, utterly frustrated, and worse, I was so close to the SPA but did not know it. I saw a gas station, stopped there for a bit then flagged a taxi back to the hotel.

Checked the map again, and decided to give it another try the following day. I went to the mall, then followed Ave. Ibirapuera all the way until it crossed that multi-lane expressway, then with the help of Google map, found my way to Enjoy SPA. A long way for sure but I enjoyed that walk, looking like a homeless wandering the residential streets. Luckily, no dog came after me.

I did not have a good time at Enjoy SPA but it was partly my fault. I was not overwhelmed by the line up and I only liked the first girl in the line up. These girls do not make it easy to remember their names, they are experts at mumbling. I eventually started to make them repeat their name, sometimes several times, especially for the girls that appealed to me.

I also made the mistake of enlisting the help of the manager. Unfortunately, my Portuguese is not the best and she ended up calling Eduarda, not the one I wanted and not my type either. I am soft hearted and there was no way I would send her back. She did her best which was OK. The damage was the same as Miruna, I think.

Tangara:

This clinica looked dumpy, yet I ended up going there twice. It was also the least expensive, at 107 BRLs, and the 2 lady managers were very friendly.

I think I lucked out my first time there as I stumbled into Isa. I just fell for that girl, so pretty, so sexy, yet so bitchy. In general, I don't mind bitchy girls as long they have the goods, and she did. She was just my type, and I made sure to have a great time with her. I made her laugh several times, and that did the trick.

I went back for Isa on Sunday but I did not see her. After half an hour, I gave up and settled on Isis. She was not bad at all, and was even funny. When I requested DATY, she replied with a resounding no, indicating it was her turn to perform and that I will get my turn later. She also requested that I better pay attention to her performance. Never got my turn, as I really enjoyed her BBBJ performance. After such a performance, FS was the only logical next step. Junior would not want it any other way.

They definitely can use newer mattresses at this place, what they have now is horrible.

Brooklin:

This clinica had the best lineup on this trip. Many chicks were my type, and that made it difficult to pick one. Luisa was there to help. She took a liking to me, and she guessed that I was from the US. She started to tease me, every time she came to the reception, for one reason or another.

She ended up giving me an outstanding session, second only to my bitchy Isa. We connected really well and laughed quite a bit during the session.

Boates:

Based on my reading, Scandallo was going to be my first pit stop. I was very impressed with that place. So much eye candy, I was overwhelmed. It was so difficult to pick a chick, and I also got the impression that the chicks were picky. I am no Spring chicken either. Eventually, with the help of the mighty alcohol, I mustered enough courage to engage Gisele, a hot blonde MILF. We hit it off right away, and off to the races. I had a nice session with her, albeit a bit expensive. The total bill was over 900 BRLs.

Cafe Photo:

I had to visit this club. A monger buddy of mine told me so much about it. Unfortunately, I showed up around 9:30 pm, which was a bit early. There was only one other customer, at a nearby table with 2 chicks. There were enough girls roaming around the bar. I made the mistake of sitting at a table, so I could not take a good look at the girls. I also ordered rum and coke, instead of beer, my favorite drink. Later, I saw some local customers drinking beer at the bar.

After a while, I settled on 4 girls as potential candidates. I particularly liked a slim, tall blonde. I kept making eye contact with her and smiling to no avail. I just assumed she was waiting for a younger candidate. She and her friend eventually left for greener pasture. After about an hour, they came back and sat at a nearby table. By that time, I have had enough alcohol to feel brave, and without hesitation called my slim blonde in. Julia promptly joined me and after a little while, I felt sorry for her friend and asked her to join us as well. Big mistake! I have had 3-somes in the past, but her friend did not appeal to me.

Eventually, after some arduous negotiations, we were off to a nearby hotel. As I had suspected, Julia's friend was just not my type, confirmed after she got naked. Julia, on the other hand was as hot as I had expected, and some more. Julia was busy taking a shower, so I had a helping of her friend, some BBBJ and DATY. Eventually, Julia joined us and I turned my attention to her. I could not have enough of this girl. Her friend soon gave up on the 3-some, as I was completely focused on Julia. I had a great time and went home with a big smile on my face, and thinking what a lucky bastard I was.

Overall impressions: I liked Sampa and really liked the people there, very friendly. Unfortunately, the place is fairly far from the US, and Medellin has been for a while now my main mongering destination in South America. My Spanish has improved, and I have quite a few favorites there. I also get my own apartment there, making it much easier to entertain. I have a feeling I will be back in Sampa soon.

The con: I have had Asian fever ever since my first trip to Asia. I was disappointed that I did not stumble into a nipo-Brasileira on this trip. But, that's another excuse for coming back to this lovely city.

Sounds like a great trip. I also stayed at the Mercure SP Moema being a member of the LE Club AccorHotels. It is a sort of aparthotel with a small kitchenette where I prepared my breakfast and dinner most of the time. On my first visit to SP I had the same problem finding Enjoy that you did. When you were at the gas station you were about three minutes away, LOL. Abbobora is about a five minute walk from Miruna and I would have thought worth a visit. I never did get to the boites as my emphasis was on financial conservation. Can't wait to head back to Brazil.

[QUOTE=Rovnak;2173919]I was not suggesting you made a mistake, you said you wanted to go where there was the most eye candy. Even on a slow day, Scandalo probably has the most eye candy so I did not try to correct your original agenda. Going to Scandalo on Friday was probably the correct move trying to show your friends the best eye candy available at that time. Going back to Scandalo on Saturday was not a great idea be / see it was pretty much guaranteed to be a subset of the Friday selection.

With that said, I do think visitors have to adjust their expectations to the day and venue. When you compare the trip unfavorably to your past trip it is best to compare same venue on same day of week. Comparing Scandalo on Saturday in 2018 to Bomboa on Wedneday in 2015 is not a fair comparison, etc. SP is still full of talent, it just moves around with the day and time. Some clinicas are far better than they ever were, some clubs are far worse on slow days but still banging on good days. Cassarao is far better than it was, the higher end clubs have very good days and very slow days. The slow days are slower than they were. A lot of talent has moved to free lance mode and that is hit or miss for short time visitor but a bounty for longer term visits.

Please don't take this as criticism, your reports were great and hope you had a good time.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]Thatnks for your comments. I'll be back to So Paulo one of these days, just during mid-week. I'm back in Rio now, and fortunately I know this town pretty well, so I know I'll have a great time.

Adjusting your expectations based on prevailing conditions is indeed the way to go. A little more pre-planning on my part would have helped.

Again, thanks for your post.

Cheers.

Clinica Brooklin - [URL]www.brooklinmassagem.com.br/[/URL].

Are. Joaquim Guarani, 121 - Brooklin.

Telefones: (11) 5181-8000/5183-4555.

Price 200+-.

CLínica Enjoy Spa.

Are. Condessa do Pinhal, 279 - Campo Belo.

(11) 3569-5250 /.

CLínica Miruna's.

Avenida Miruna, 644 - Moema.

Tel. : (11) 5041-9023.

CHANÉS 57 BAR & CLUB.

Rua dos Chanés, 57 – Moema –.

CLÍNICA TANGARÁ.

Rua Tangará 200.

Tel; 5071 4737.

The Palms. Perdizes.

Rua Dr. Costa Junior 530 - Perdizes.

Telefones: (11) 3871-1301/3871-1731.

Preço: are $500.

Some news. Fefao has a new place callled Moema Prime, same price as Enjoy.

Clinica Prime. Av Irai 511 - Moema / r $ 180,00 - 60 Min.

Atendimento de 1 hora: 240,00.

Atendimento de 30 minutos: 180,00.

Plano de milhagem 4 x 1.

Mirunas is now:

Atendimento de 1 hora: 230,00.

Atendimento de 30 minutos: 170,00.

Plano de milhagem 6 x 1.

Also a refurbished place near metro santa cruz might be worth a look.

Espaço lgóis.

Av Luis gois 820.

Can't speak to the current quality as I mostly do indies.

OT. I am curious about men's attitudes toward fake breasts. First, why do you think Brazilians are so anxious to augment their breasts? I used to think, 'naturally, they must thing men like bigger breasts, and that is their motivation". But without exception every Brasileira that I have talked to that was planning to get surgery told me that they don't care what men think, they are doing it for themselves. Now this was usually in reaction to my saying "why do you want bigger breasts, they are wonderful now, they are a nice size and they are soft, why do you want to hard balloons on your chest? I think of all the women I have been with there was only one that thought would be better with a boob job be / see she had saggy post preg breasts. The others are almost all magra or falsa magra types (my preference) who have small natural tits and do not need big tits. In fact they are almost all less attractive with bigger tits. Yet they insist that they want them bigger "for themselves, not to attract more clients or men". I was surprised to hear this at first, but after hearing the same thing from so many of them I have to believe this must be true. I tell them "most of the men I know prefer natural tits, small or large but appropriate for the body", but they don't care what men think, or so they say.

Am I representing the mans' perspective correctly or are there a lot of guys that like fake boobs?

Maybe its a prejudice of mine, but most of the time I lose interest in these girls after they get fake boobs, they seem more professional to me. Same thing when I learn a girl has gone to Europe and returned. Its like a red flag that says "likely to be mercenary and mechanical".

[QUOTE=Rovnak;2178941]Some news. Fefao has a new place callled Moema Prime, same price as Enjoy.

Clinica Prime. Av Irai 511 - Moema / r $ 180,00 - 60 Min.

Atendimento de 1 hora: 240,00.

Atendimento de 30 minutos: 180,00.

Plano de milhagem 4 x 1.

Mirunas is now:

Atendimento de 1 hora: 230,00.

Atendimento de 30 minutos: 170,00.

Plano de milhagem 6 x 1.

Also a refurbished place near metro santa cruz might be worth a look.

Espao lgis..[/QUOTE]I am completely with you Rovnak. I would much rather have all natural even if smaller. It horrifies me when some girl I like says they are getting them done. No question. Fake breasts are a turn off. Almost a deal killer but not quite. Thank god its not a KO as I am coming to the land of fake breasts this summer!

ESPAÇO VERGUEIRO, Rua Vergueiro 170. Liberdade.

New bar runned by Mme Vaní, the same owner of VW and Tangara, very nice lounge, 05 rooms for fuc*ing, yesterday was a ligerie party, total o 16 garotas, 04 occuoied and 12 free.

No entrance fee, you pay only what you've ordered, beverages with honest prices.

170 reais =1 h. ; 130 reias 1/2 h.

Open from noon till 3:00 AM.

I went there with my canadian friend.

ABG.

[QUOTE=AltoBomGosto;2179241]ESPAO VERGUEIRO, Rua Vergueiro 170. Liberdade.

New bar runned by Mme Van, the same owner of VW and Tangara, very nice lounge, 05 rooms for fuc*ing, yesterday was a ligerie party, total o 16 garotas, 04 occuoied and 12 free.

No entrance fee, you pay only what you've ordered, beverages with honest prices.

170 reais =1 h. ; 130 reias 1/2 h.

Open from noon till 3:00 AM.

I went there with my canadian friend.

ABG.[/QUOTE]Hi ABG,

Which floor, unit number? It looks like a tower.

Found it.

[URL]http://espacovergueiro.com.br/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Rovnak;2178941]OT. I am curious about men's attitudes toward fake breasts.[/QUOTE]It is not because how they will look naked, but how they will look in clothes. I have unsuccessfully tried to talk a number of women out of getting them. Women spent a lot of time in clothes and want to look their best. As they get older and they do not turn as many heads (again, in clothes) they think breasts will add to their attractiveness to men, women and themselves. Brazilian women are open enough to admit that they get more upset when men do not check them out than when they do. They do not come home from shopping complaining men were ogling them and that men are pigs, they complain when no one noticed them.

I would be more interested if someone has found a way to talk them out of getting their breasts augmented. I have tried pretty much everything including mentioning older women I know who have had them removed. Nothing worked. I only delayed the inevitable.