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[QUOTE=Sammon;1178406]It is medically possible to tell if the girl's hymen is intact or not.[/QUOTE]That's irrelevant. You've made the mistake of assuming that a broken hymen means that a girl has had sex while an unbroken one means she has not. This assumption contradicts Western medical knowledge. It seems many of you prefer superstition over science.
A doctor can indeed tell if a hyman is broken. Only a psychic can tell if it's breakage is the result of sexual activity.
[QUOTE=MauiDude; 1178584]Went out last night.
Golden nile and blue nile are totally open and have been for awhile.
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I was just there last week and one of the niles was closed. Atleast that's what somebody told me it was. I stuck to Atlantis and Bar Asia which I enjoyed the most because of the music.
[QUOTE=AsianLover2; 1178510]I just had the pleasure of being number 2. Some poor sucker from Korea paid $2000 (85, 000P) to have a cherry girl. I have know the mamasan for several years and the girl for 1 year. I paid $72 (3000P) 1 week after she lost her cherry. She was still a little nervous but enjoyed it almost as much as I did. I guess if being number 1 is that important. Then spend the money.
If she is really a virgin and just met you she will probably not enjoy it and only be with you because of the money. She knew me as we had gone clubbing before and she was happy to spend the night this time.
Back again in October for visit number 35[/QUOTE]A mama at one of the bars tells me several cherry items:
1. The cherry girl in a bar might not be a virgin. Sometimes the bars hire real cute young girls for dancing only, especially if the girl does not want to barfine. She's there for lady's drinks. She might or might not be a virgin; either way she's just not willing to barfine, so they label her a cherry girl.
2. Some bar managers lie. The cherry girl gives it up this month for big money. Later the bar re-classifies the girl as cherry again, as the rich elvis who took her before has flown the coop and is no longer in town.
3. The bar is aware of the hymen issue. They are aware that the girls masturbate with anything that is shaped like a penis: vegetables, fingers, etc, and the hymen is long broken for a virgin. If pilipinos, who are generally not educated about hygiene, medical issues, and sexuality, already know this, I find it odd that westerners write in saying a doctor can tell if a hymen's been broken. What difference does it make if the hymen is broken. A broken hymen is not an indication of sex.
4. Some cherry girls do barfine, and have swallowed bucket-loads of cum. 40 barfines in 3 months of work is a lot of sucked cock. When you barfine her to be THE ONE to take her virginity, are you sure this is the girl for you? The fantasy you want to complete? Usually we think of the virgin as someone who hasn't been with a guy before. Many cherry girls have been butt-naked with a lot of guys.
After her bar closed recently, the mama, her best friend in the bar, and I went out for videoke. Just 2 san migs later they were laughing and telling me bar secrets like I was suddenly in the 'need-to-know' category. The vegetable thing I got from the girls just cracked me up."Yaaaaa, they use the eggplant." You'll never look at stew the same way again.
[QUOTE=Westcoast1;1178655]After her bar closed recently, the mama, her best friend in the bar, and I went out for videoke. Just 2 san migs later they were laughing and telling me bar secrets like I was suddenly in the 'need-to-know' category. The vegetable thing I got from the girls just cracked me up."Yaaaaa, they use the eggplant." You'll never look at stew the same way again.[/QUOTE]Was chatting with a long term bonking girlfriend yesterday and we got on the subject of vegetables.
She knew that one drunken day, a year or so back, she had become intimate friends with carrots, and eggplant and she didn't mind. She was wearing a blindfold so wasnt sure what was going in next. In fact she was quite excited by it.
She just asked that I don't use ampalaya. As the edges would probably be too rough. Got to love the practicality.
[QUOTE=Westcoast1;1178655]4. Some cherry girls do barfine, and have swallowed bucket-loads of cum. 40 barfines in 3 months of work is a lot of sucked cock. When you barfine her to be THE ONE to take her virginity, are you sure this is the girl for you? The fantasy you want to complete? Usually we think of the virgin as someone who hasn't been with a guy before. Many cherry girls have been butt-naked with a lot of guys.[/QUOTE]I've asked many cherry girls in the bar what they will do inside the room and they've all said "nothing". When I've asked if they will suck cock they all said "no". Then I retort "why in the fuck would anyone barfine you"? They say,"Oh to go barhopping".
My advice: Stay away from any "V" marked tag. I once ordered a drink for a girl and forgot to look at the tag. After sitting with her, I noticed the "v" on the tag and thought "ohh, fuck". I called over the manager and told him I wasn't going to pay for her drink because she didn't tell me she was a cherry, and of course I didn't pay for it.
I hate the whole concept of a cherry girl. It really is trap meant for stupid tourists to fall into.
[QUOTE=Madisonguy; 1178643][QUOTE=MauiDude; 1178584]Went out last night.
Golden nile and blue nile are totally open and have been for awhile.[/QUOTE]I was just there last week and one of the niles was closed. Atleast that's what somebody told me it was. I stuck to Atlantis and Bar Asia which I enjoyed the most because of the music.[/QUOTE]Looks closed. Part of it due to constuction.
Actually the club in between Cambodia and blue nile? Is closed for remodeling.
When I went in the blue nile and golden nile.
It was way too crowded for me.
I think it is dragons den that is connected to the golden nile. So you walk in one and out the other.
Of course my information can get confused as I always forget where I go unless I meet a girl that I really like.
With that in mind I guess one of my favorite places is genesis.
I wanted to keep the place a secret but then hahhaha no way I can fuck them all.
What a great night. Saw a cute one with nice teeth and only 35 kilos dancing and smiling.
Wow love at first site or is it lust at first sight? Either way another four letter word comes to mind.
So I ask her do you want to?
She a good girl. And one of my other girls even taught her the right way to do a blow job ?
Hard to believe she was not into it before as she hesitated at first but then did a great job.
Who know what to believe around here. But I felt good about her and having a good time myself.
And cherry girls are fun but one of the first questions I ask a girl is. Do you like boom boom?
Not that that is everything but I do not live here to be frustrated. I have had plenty of years in USA to be frustrated.
By girls.
Hahhahaha. So much work. Maybe I am just lazy.
I like the music in a few bars. But now I forget the names. Hahahah no memorable girls to me
[QUOTE=Amjeck;1178791]I hate the whole concept of a cherry girl. It really is trap meant for stupid tourists to fall into.[/QUOTE]It is. For those who don't agree, and want to argue that cherry girls fill a niche in the market and that some guys like them. Well, look at it this way:
- if a bar had nothing but cherry girls, I would never set foot in it.
- if a bar has only regular girls (no cherries) , I have no trouble with the setup.
There is a reason why the "V" on the girls' I'd cards is so small, and often overlooked by customers.
[QUOTE=Amjeck; 1178791]I've asked many cherry girls in the bar what they will do inside the room and they've all said "nothing". When I've asked if they will suck cock they all said "no". Then I retort "why in the fuck would anyone barfine you"? They say,"Oh to go barhopping".
My advice: Stay away from any "V" marked tag. I once ordered a drink for a girl and forgot to look at the tag. After sitting with her, I noticed the "v" on the tag and thought "ohh, fuck". I called over the manager and told him I wasn't going to pay for her drink because she didn't tell me she was a cherry, and of course I didn't pay for it.
I hate the whole concept of a cherry girl. It really is trap meant for stupid tourists to fall into.[/QUOTE]It is a concept only in AC. I have not seen in Manila bars including EDSA.
It is a matter of personal preference whether you want to stay away from V TAG. I sometimes prefer V Tag girls and have barfined many. Usually after thoroughly shagged out need a break for a day.
I do take them barhopping and disco. Many a time it has ended up in BJ (most common) , Half insertion, full sex.
Some V tag girls are very cute and I enjoy the company even if nothing happens in the bedroom. To start with I barfined them knowing there will be no sex. If anything happens it is a bonus.
None have run away in the middle of night. All have stayed till morning, sometimes whole next day.
In AC, it is easy to get sex. If that is what you want every day stay away from Cherry girls.
[QUOTE=Amjeck;1178791]I've asked many cherry girls in the bar what they will do inside the room and they've all said "nothing".[/QUOTE]In Barrio Barretto I once BF a cherry girl, because god knows the alternatives were impossible. She was acting very surprised that I expected more than admiring her from a distance. But eventually she was reasonable. However I was happy with allowing her to call herself a cherry, if she will allow me to cum all over her. Inside can wait for the next one.
[QUOTE=Wadman; 1178823]It is. For those who don't agree, and want to argue that cherry girls fill a niche in the market and that some guys like them. Well, look at it this way:
- if a bar had nothing but cherry girls, I would never set foot in it.
- if a bar has only regular girls (no cherries) , I have no trouble with the setup.
There is a reason why the "V" on the girls' I'd cards is so small, and often overlooked by customers.[/QUOTE]Yah, it's pretty much a giant trap. I know some guys like the cherries, and whatever works for them is ok. I just have a prob with the newbie who rolls in and starts buying the "v" drinks only later to realize she is a cherry and won't barfine. That's crap. I'm all for protecting the monger and his best interest. Value for money and not wasting anytime is my number one priority in AC. I don't care about the girls / bar owners interests in trying to scam or outrageously profiting on naive punters.
If any newbie has any questions and wants to avoid this trap, speak up and I will help educate you so you don't lose money / time in AC.
The more easy available sex, without ridiculous obstacles (cherry girls, drink working girls, etc) , AC has to offer the better the place will be.
[QUOTE=Amjeck;1178954]The more easy available sex, without ridiculous obstacles (cherry girls, drink working girls, etc) , AC has to offer the better the place will be.[/QUOTE]I disagree that removing obstacles would make AC a "better" place.
I don't have a problem with V girls. None of us in good conscience should monger where any girl is coerced to sleep with a guy. You might feel you're protecting the interest of the monger. But many guys, particularly older Asian gentlemen, simply want to barhop or dine with a cute V girl and have a sexless sleepover. It's all a part of the AC buffet where one size shouldn't fit all.
[QUOTE=FurryFriend;1178961]I don't have a problem with V girls. None of us in good conscience should monger where any girl is coerced to sleep with a guy.[/QUOTE]
The girls always have their stock "mens" excuse. Or any other excuse they can think of at the moment. It's been pounded into the girls in AC enough that they don't have to barfine with a guy they don't like.
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But many guys, particularly older Asian gentlemen, simply want to barhop or dine with a cute V girl and have a sexless sleepover. It's all a part of the AC buffet where one size shouldn't fit all.
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Which is fine, I don't have a problem with guys who DO LIKE cherry girls. For the guys who (knowingly) buy a drink for cherry girls and barfine them, hey, more power to them.
My beef is that newer / shyer guys who don't know how to deal with cherry girls. They call down what they think is a regular girl on stage. They may find out that the girl is cherry as soon as the girl is in front of them, but are too shy to send them back without buying her a drink. Or they may only find out that she is cherry when it comes time to barfine her.
The solution to this would be to CLEARLY mark which girls are cherry. The current method is with a tiny red "v" on their I'd tag, which may be turned around while she is dancing (sometimes intentionally by the girl, sometimes not). A tiny red "v" is easily overlooked by the customer because:
- girl may be some distance away.
- poor eyesight by customer.
- bars are dark, some really dark.
- customer has had half a dozen or more drinks.
Alaska bar makes their cherries wear red bikinis (in addition to the red "v"). A few other bars may identify them in similar ways. Damn if I can remember these things while on a barhop.
There is only 1 real reason why bars will not CLEARLY cherry girls: to push more drinks on unsuspecting suckers.
[QUOTE=Amjeck; 1178954]Yah, it's pretty much a giant trap. I know some guys like the cherries, and whatever works for them is ok. I just have a prob with the newbie who rolls in and starts buying the "v" drinks only later to realize she is a cherry and won't barfine. That's crap. I'm all for protecting the monger and his best interest. Value for money and not wasting anytime is my number one priority in AC. I don't care about the girls / bar owners interests in trying to scam or outrageously profiting on naive punters.
If any newbie has any questions and wants to avoid this trap, speak up and I will help educate you so you don't lose money / time in AC.
The more easy available sex, without ridiculous obstacles (cherry girls, drink working girls, etc) , AC has to offer the better the place will be.[/QUOTE]It is not really a trap. The bars are supplying a wide variety of girls either to look at, have her sitting beside you while you grope (do not be bashfull-all guys grope the girl, some with their hands under the girls clothing)
Barfine with the hope of getting unlimited sex, or barfine v girls for a night of eye candy combined with dancing and more depending, barfine older waitresses for sex with background of experience, anal queeens, country girls who do not know art of BJ (wouldn't you like to be a teacher) and limited experience in sex etc.
All this in comfortable air-conditioned bar (ever see how cold they keep inside ). All this costs money. So the bars especially in AC has supplied us mongers with cheaper alternatives like barfine covers all. If they did not push ladydrinks, ball throwing, ring the bell etc, they will definitely go belly up.
If all the mongers are thrifty like you suggest (" Value for money and not wasting any time ") there will not be a AC fun place. Fortunately there are big spenders who keep these bars afloat.
AC has everything even a thrifty guy want. There is no rule to buy a drink to sit and watch the show. There is no cover charge. There is no requirement that you barfine a girl. No insistance on buying ladydrink just because you called the girl over to sit and chat. In fact there is only subtle pressure compared to many go go places I have gone here in USA.
A thrifty guy can walk into as many bars as he wants and barfine a girl without spending money for drinks.
For a newbie there is a learning curve but soon enough he will understand the whole set up. Either he decides to splurge or be thrifty. It is his decision. Whatever his decision is he is guaranteed to have a good time in AC.
[QUOTE=Amjeck; 1178791]I've asked many cherry girls in the bar what they will do inside the room and they've all said "nothing". When I've asked if they will suck cock they all said "no". Then I retort "why in the fuck would anyone barfine you"? They say,"Oh to go barhopping".
My advice: Stay away from any "V" marked tag. I once ordered a drink for a girl and forgot to look at the tag. After sitting with her, I noticed the "v" on the tag and thought "ohh, fuck". I called over the manager and told him I wasn't going to pay for her drink because she didn't tell me she was a cherry, and of course I didn't pay for it.
I hate the whole concept of a cherry girl. It really is trap meant for stupid tourists to fall into.[/QUOTE]I agree. Been to AC and really don't like the "cherry girl" bull shit. Your working in a brothel for gods sake, your expected to sell your ass, or at least your pussy. As I have told "coyote" girls in bars on Soi Cowboy in Bangkok, if you don't go with customer than I'm not going to buy you a lady drink. Same thing here, I don't care if I'm your first or your 100th if I'm buying you a lady drink it is to interview you to find out if I want to pay your barfine and have sex with you.
Now if the Japanese or any other group want to pay a premium for your virginity that's fine, hell I might pay $300 or $400 but at that price I'm going to break open all 3 holes and your going to spend a few days as my sex toy.
Cudos to the Alaska bar for making it clear who is, and is not a bar girl that fucks.
[QUOTE=RoadGlide;1179280]I agree. Been to AC and really don't like the "cherry girl" bull shit. Your working in a brothel for gods sake, your expected to sell your ass, or at least your pussy. [/QUOTE]
What's more bullshit is enslaving a girl to sleep with everybody as a condition of employment. This is a bar, not a brothel. She's a dancer, not a slave.
No where is there a rule stating that buying a girl a drink obligates her to sleep with you (cherry or no cherry). If you want to avoid cherries, you can ask the waitress before bringing the girl off the stage. But even a non-cherry might refuse your barfine.
I suggest once you get the girl off the stage, you ask her immediately if she's open to barfine and boom-boom. If not, politely send her back to the stage before ordering her a drink.
[QUOTE=Wadman;1179063]There is only 1 real reason why bars will not CLEARLY cherry girls: to push more drinks on unsuspecting suckers.[/QUOTE]
Yes. But I really cannot fault the bar for wanting to sell drinks.
However, the learning curve is not that steep for newbies. Surely, the newbie will buy a few drinks for a girl not knowing about this cherry business. But come on! So the guy loses a few dollars. Not a big loss. Soon enough, he'll learn how to screen out the cherries. It's all part of the learning curve. Every mongering venue will involve a bit of a learning curve.