German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

[QUOTE=SmokeLight;2092661]Wife sees me going to Germany few times a year. Naturally, she gets curios. To the point that she now wants me to take her on vacation to Germany. She wants to go for 2 weeks in June 2018, possibly also visiting Austria. She's OK that I arrange the whole trip.

Has anyone done FKK visits while on vacation with wife / other family members? Jokes on me, but I need your wisdom to plan better. We will arrive in Frankfurt and rent a car. Multiple hotels to be reserved. What's a good excuse to disappear for a few hours here and there? Any and most craziest ideas are greatly appreciated!

Please don't tell me to take my wife to a club. It's not going to happen, she is quite a stiff, way too traditional and boring.[/QUOTE]One small point is that after a day in FKK going back to your wife can be challenging. However anxious one is to use every minute at FKK, make sure that before you leave the club you shower top to bottom using a completely neutral smelling shampoo or even better, the one you use at the hotel. Hope this doesn't sound patronising, but I remember making a mistake about this.

If you are saying you are going to a Messe you could be vulnerable to your wife checking out and discover n that you are going to a Messe on the development of sewage systems or some such unlikely subject. Cover blown. How about developing an obssesive hobby like the industrial history of NRW: plenty of sites to call in at (taking untimed photos).Or in Hessen, following the frontier of the Roman Empire, along "The Limes". Of course you have to choose an interest which your wife will hate.

Like BadinSweet says, a football tournament is good cover if you say you are going with a group of guys so you can be out for a long part of the day

Whatever you do, be aware that your wife may well know you are up to something even if she never says a word.

[QUOTE=Optimist;2093505]One small point is that after a day in FKK going back to your wife can be challenging. However anxious one is to use every minute at FKK, make sure that before you leave the club you shower top to bottom using a completely neutral smelling shampoo or even better, the one you use at the hotel. Hope this doesn't sound patronising, but I remember making a mistake about this.

If you are saying you are going to a Messe you could be vulnerable to your wife checking out and discover n that you are going to a Messe on the development of sewage systems or some such unlikely subject. Cover blown. How about developing an obssesive hobby like the industrial history of NRW: plenty of sites to call in at (taking untimed photos).Or in Hessen, following the frontier of the Roman Empire, along "The Limes". Of course you have to choose an interest which your wife will hate.

Like BadinSweet says, a football tournament is good cover if you say you are going with a group of guys so you can be out for a long part of the day

Whatever you do, be aware that your wife may well know you are up to something even if she never says a word.[/QUOTE]Marriage can be very scary thing. Can be grave of life.

[QUOTE=Nuupter;2093007]I have not visited FKK in November before. What will be the lineup like on the week from November 23 to December 2?

Do girls take holidays already or its still at top attendance especially at oase?[/QUOTE]Many girls who want to make money before Christmas and registration.

[QUOTE=MrHo;2093167]Well Siri, try your technique at German table at Palace frankfurt and you tell me what really will happen to you after LOL.

NRW are good service clubs beside Oceans, so it is easy, palace and Artemis is more war zone especially with German girls LOL.[/QUOTE]If You can't manage with German girls at Palace or Artemis, don t go to them. I know lovely German girls at GT, LR, Harmony, Atmos, Sharks, Globe, even Romanians are usually more my type for my way for sex. So many girls who don t ask for money for DFK or about new law, because they just want business, FKK life go on.

According to some locals, the industrial history of NRW is perhaps the most interesting thing there is in this area. And it is made tourist friendly also, so I wouldn't bet on wife disliking that affection.

I'm going on a business trip to Dusseldorf on November 5th and then thought about visiting the Oceans.

Is this a good choice or you have other recommendations?

Seems like I will stay at home for Cristmas then.

Or if I go then a major club like Living Room might be the best.

In Cologne: what's biggest of them?

[QUOTE=Optimist;2092888]John Traveller. I wouldn't be quite as pessimistic as XXL, but it will be very quiet, maybe lineups down to 25% or less (rough guess) but that will still leave enough girls for a new visitor. If you have a car you can club hop till you find some girls you like.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Fjermi;2093669]I'm going on a business trip to Dusseldorf on November 5th and then thought about visiting the Oceans.

Is this a good choice or you have other recommendations?[/QUOTE]Just avoid taking a taxi there and speak some German at the reception, place the entry fee at the desk and you'll be fine.

Best is to get there between 14.00 and 15.00 if you are able to stay the whole night. But the club won't really get alive before after 1900 or 2000. But you can take a nap, have a meal and perhaps find one doable girl who starts working early.

Some people in here just don't like oceans because the receptionists have asked for higher entry if you seem like a clueless tourist. Never happened to me, but its a rumor. The thing is though that even if they have somewhat of a point, the club has the highest optics in nrw.

Oh, and one or two girls there are rumored to do time scams. It happens in almost all clubs these days (except aca where the bartender writes down the time in the book), so keep a watch with you and look at what it is when she writes it down when getting the key.

At least not according to wikipedia:

"Prostitution is the business or practice of engaging in sexual activity in exchange for payment either as money, goods, services, or some other benefit agreed upon by the transacting parties."

Money: "Money is a store of value that holds its buying power over an extended period of time. Fiat currency does not. This is the key difference between money and currency. "

Link: [URL]https://www.bitstocks.com/blog/the-critical-difference-between-money-and-currency-you-need-to-know[/URL].

Basically, fiat currency (monopoly play money) is not money, so if you hand the girls fiat in trade for sex, it is not prostitution.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2093526]If You can't manage with German girls at Palace or Artemis, don t go to them. I know lovely German girls at GT, LR, Harmony, Atmos, Sharks, Globe, even Romanians are usually more my type for my way for sex. So many girls who don t ask for money for DFK or about new law, because they just want business, FKK life go on.[/QUOTE]Siri LOL. Just try your good manner and technique at German table at FKK palace LOL.

Again, NRW has better service in general for some reason especially LR, I do not know why that is and how club manage to convince girls to give better service, but NRW definitely has better service than other German FKK I have been to like Artemis or palace or now Oase and sharks.

Oceans are bit different, but still service there is far better than palace or artemis, but I have to say, one can get real good service in palace, but road to that is helluva negotiation LOL.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2093769]Just avoid taking a taxi there and speak some German at the reception, place the entry fee at the desk and you'll be fine.

Best is to get there between 14.00 and 15.00 if you are able to stay the whole night. But the club won't really get alive before after 1900 or 2000. But you can take a nap, have a meal and perhaps find one doable girl who starts working early.

Some people in here just don't like oceans because the receptionists have asked for higher entry if you seem like a clueless tourist. Never happened to me, but its a rumor. The thing is though that even if they have somewhat of a point, the club has the highest optics in nrw.

Oh, and one or two girls there are rumored to do time scams. It happens in almost all clubs these days (except aca where the bartender writes down the time in the book), so keep a watch with you and look at what it is when she writes it down when getting the key.[/QUOTE]Or get off the taxi at Suzuki dealership, this is what I do, and taxi driver is always angry about that make me feel so nice LOL.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2093827]At least not according to wikipedia:

"Prostitution is the business or practice of engaging in sexual activity in exchange for payment either as money, goods, services, or some other benefit agreed upon by the transacting parties."

Money: "Money is a store of value that holds its buying power over an extended period of time. Fiat currency does not. This is the key difference between money and currency. "

Link: [URL]https://www.bitstocks.com/blog/the-critical-difference-between-money-and-currency-you-need-to-know[/URL].

Basically, fiat currency (monopoly play money) is not money, so if you hand the girls fiat in trade for sex, it is not prostitution.[/QUOTE]Well it is paid sex, but it is just much cheaper than usual dating style paid sex like wining and dining few times and sex.

We do the math which is cheaper and better and chosen German FKK LOL.

I mean we just pay directly with cash, not in format of bags, shoes, dinners, house, cars etc etc.

Sunny side for us monger mathematician is that we can choose girls and change all the time as we want LOL.

[QUOTE=MrHo;2093986]Well it is paid sex, but it is just much cheaper than usual dating style paid sex like wining and dining few times and sex.

We do the math which is cheaper and better and chosen German FKK LOL.

I mean we just pay directly with cash, not in format of bags, shoes, dinners, house, cars etc etc.

Sunny side for us monger mathematician is that we can choose girls and change all the time as we want LOL.[/QUOTE]I don't think you are following my drift here. Fiat currency is not money. And in all the law books it talks about money in relation to prostitution. Fiat currency is only worth how much we want it to be. And so we can value it at 0 if we want. Or the price of the paper it is written on.

We can say that the girl brought the baby wraps and cleaning paper, and we brought a piece with some arbitrary numbers on. So it is just a hobby.

Anyone who thinks that fiat currency (e. g. US dollars) is not money is welcome to send theirs to me.

[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2094126]Anyone who thinks that fiat currency (e. g. US dollars) is not money is welcome to send theirs to me.[/QUOTE]If you go by the definition on bitstocks, fiat currency is not money as it does not hold its value over time. It gets inflated. You need some sort of gold standard or something hard to trade it into in order to hold value over time. So by definition fiat is not money. And as it is not backed by anything other than itself, we can value it to be worth anything.