Bogota Reports

I thought this was the Bogota mongering board. Turns out it's the "My panties are in a bunch over the election" board.

Here's what happens every 4 years, for those out there who can't remember back that far. After every Presidential election the winning side declares we're about to enter a golden age. Their candidate is going to fix everything from the economy to persistent foot odor. It's going to rain soup and the losing party is never going to recover.

Meanwhile the losers tell us the world is ending and we'll all get gonorrhea and be robbed and raped by the new administration.

Every 4 years. I've lost track of how many times the world has ended, we've been taken over by China or Russia and the government has taken away all our freedoms.

Maybe this time you'll be right, whichever side you're on. However, there's not a fucking thing you can do about it until the next election except cry or crow. Neither one is going to help anyone trying to get laid in Bogota.

I'm betting that 4 years from now things won't be much different. 230 years of history backs me up.

BTW: If you're in a panic over 1 junior Representative, either she's the most intelligent person in the world, capable of manipulating a majority in both houses of Congress, the president and the Supreme Court, or you need someone to change your diaper.

Relax. If you can't change it, worrying about it does no good.

[QUOTE=NRandom940;2505685]This thread went downhill fast. We were talking about good spas and mongering locations.

Are you really going to complain that it now might cost you $55 to fuck a super hot babe instead of just $50?[/QUOTE]I agree with you that $5 should make no difference on coming to Colombia or not with a girl. The irony is that all the guys want to comment on that versus the expenses with regards to the trip which is obviously more important than the $5.

When I looked to book my next flight to Colombia, I saw reasonable fares from Atlanta and Dallas and crazy high fares from Florida and Houston. Things SHOULD be dirt cheap going to Colombia given the spare capacity the airlines have and fuel costs, but they are not because the airlines have been gun shy about increasing capacity. I really do not like the trigger finger happy way governments have been lording over businesses since the virus hit. As far as I am concerned, governments have decimated the world economy with very little to show for it.

Still, there is too much faith in governments and the resistance to fighting pointless government lockdowns and travel bans is still not at the level it should be, so businesses are scared to expand and rightly so. Point is that we are not going to see the massive reduction in air fares we mongers are due.

With hotels, the capacity may be even more overstretched than with airlines, and that cannot be taken off the market so quickly but even with that, I have not seen the reduction in prices due us there either. To the contrary, I am seeing less service, the same prices, and increased paranoia, and guest fees. This raises another point I do not think people get. Right now, hotels are putting the concerns of government officials first and paying customers second.

The notion that Texas has more cases of the Flu than California and that Texas has done a horrible job with the Flu while California has done a great job would be derided as stupidity. Governments cannot control the flu virus, yet here we have Corona, a type of the flu virus, and somehow due to what may be the stupidest "scientific" campaign of all time, governments are now being judged and graded on how a virus spreads in their region.

Once people reject that notion for the complete idiocy that it is, and we are not there yet, governments and not the market are going to be the primary factor with regards to travel pricing.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2505830]

Still, there is too much faith in governments and the resistance to fighting pointless government lockdowns and travel bans is still not at the level it should be, so businesses are scared to expand and rightly so. Point is that we are not going to see the massive reduction in air fares we mongers are due.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2505830]
Governments cannot control the flu virus, yet here we have Corona, a type of the flu virus, and somehow due to what may be the stupidest "scientific" campaign of all time, governments are now being judged and graded on how a virus spreads in their region.

Once people reject that notion for the complete idiocy that it is, and we are not there yet, governments and not the market are going to be the primary factor with regards to travel pricing.[/QUOTE]Yeah, sure thing. Aha. Totally.

Korea.

Population: 51 million.

COVID cases: 31,000.

COVID Deaths: 510.

US.

Population: 328 million (6 x).

COVID cases: 12,500,000 (403 x).

COVID Deaths: 258,000 (505 x).

Arrived in Bogota Saturday night at 22:15. Breezed through immigration. Completed the "Check-Mig" form online at airport in Miami before boarding. Took less than 5 minutes. Had to show the gate agent my email receipt, marked my boarding pass and that was that. At immigration I showed the email receipt to the border patrol agent, he stamped my passport after a little small talk and I was in. Very easy and smooth process.

Yet there are European countries (Italy, Spain, Belgium among them) with higher cases and deaths per capita than the US. And those countries had hard lockdowns. This thing might not be as simple as some make it out to be.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2505876]Yeah, sure thing. Aha. Totally.

Korea.

Population: 51 million.

COVID cases: 31,000.

COVID Deaths: 510.

US.

Population: 328 million (6 x).

COVID cases: 12,500,000 (403 x).

COVID Deaths: 258,000 (505 x).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Combo;2505929]Yet there are European countries (Italy, Spain, Belgium among them) with higher cases and deaths per capita than the US. And those countries had hard lockdowns. This thing might not be as simple as some make it out to be.[/QUOTE]I never said it was, but it's not just about lockdowns. The fact there are 2-3 industrial countries in the whole world that are worse off than us doesn't validate a point that governments shouldn't be "judged and graded on how a virus spreads. " That's just kooky.

This government gets an F.

[QUOTE=Buckeye63;2505881]Arrived in Bogota Saturday night at 22:15. Breezed through immigration. Completed the "Check-Mig" form online at airport in Miami before boarding. Took less than 5 minutes. Had to show the gate agent my email receipt, marked my boarding pass and that was that. At immigration I showed the email receipt to the border patrol agent, he stamped my passport after a little small talk and I was in. Very easy and smooth process.[/QUOTE]Funny. I arrived in Bogota from La Paz just 30 minutes before you that same day. I'm back in the USA now, though.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2505830]I agree with you that $5 should make no difference on coming to Colombia or not with a girl. The irony is that all the guys want to comment on that versus the expenses with regards to the trip which is obviously more important than the $5.

When I looked to book my next flight to Colombia, I saw reasonable fares from Atlanta and Dallas and crazy high fares from Florida and Houston. Things SHOULD be dirt cheap going to Colombia given the spare capacity the airlines have and fuel costs, but they are not because the airlines have been gun shy about increasing capacity. I really do not like the trigger finger happy way governments have been lording over businesses since the virus hit. As far as I am concerned, governments have decimated the world economy with very little to show for it.

Still, there is too much faith in governments and the resistance to fighting pointless government lockdowns and travel bans is still not at the level it should be, so businesses are scared to expand and rightly so. Point is that we are not going to see the massive reduction in air fares we mongers are due.

With hotels, the capacity may be even more overstretched than with airlines, and that cannot be taken off the market so quickly but even with that, I have not seen the reduction in prices due us there either. To the contrary, I am seeing less service, the same prices, and increased paranoia, and guest fees. This raises another point I do not think people get. Right now, hotels are putting the concerns of government officials first and paying customers second..[/QUOTE]Plus I feel that I'm saving money on food. It's a hell of a lot cheaper to eat in Bogota than anywhere in the USA.

I figured now is a better time than never to ask about mongering and trip reports since we want to bring this forum back to its roots.

It's my first time in Bogota and so far it's been depressing, cold, and rainy. I've tried to go down south near Feibre / Paisas club today and yesterday but they were closed and the area is hella sketch so definitely don't stick around by yourself. I don't know if I'll return as I felt / heard that people are even more hostile in these pandemic times.

I went to Lido's yesterday and today and besides the ridiculously priced beers, the girls were on average 6-7's. Is this really the best that Bogota has to offer? I've had 3 taxi drivers drop me off here claiming it's the best, but there hasn't been anything that caught my eye at those prices. I mean I know it's not Medellin and it can't hold a candle to Brazil (IMO), but do you guys have any other spots or places you recommend checking out? I'll check back there Thursday-Saturday to see if anything has changed. I've read the forum back about 3 months worth but found little to help my cause. Anywho, I've just been hitting up online girls via mileroticos and have 2 hotties fortunately via SA but wanted an establishment where I could window shop.

Monger on fellas.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2505876]Yeah, sure thing. Aha. Totally.

Korea.

Population: 51 million.

COVID cases: 31,000.

COVID Deaths: 510.

US.

Population: 328 million (6 x).

COVID cases: 12,500,000 (403 x).

COVID Deaths: 258,000 (505 x).[/QUOTE]I'm trying to figure out how we mongers are due for a massive reduction in airfare. I knew about Frequent Flyer Miles, just wasn't aware of the Frequent Fucker Miles program.

"Member services, how may I help you?

"Hi. I like to fly to foreign countries in order to have sex with prostitutes and I'm wondering why you haven't been giving me massive discounts?

"Hello? Hello?

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2505608]LOL, those "socialists" haven't even started yet, and you've already "about had it?" Boy, the next 4 years are going to be tough on ya.[/QUOTE]Biden is a socialist?

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2505953]I never said it was, but it's not just about lockdowns.[/QUOTE]Then what is it about?

I will give you another data point.

Cambodia has 16 million people, 308 cases of Covid, and zero deaths.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2505953]This government gets an F.[/QUOTE]If you are going to use those data points, then the government and health care system of Cambodia gets an A, Korea gets a be, and the USA gets a F.

And remember you are holding a country and its government responsible for the spread of an incurable disease, so there is no way Cambodia was lucky. No, they have to have a better health care system than the USA if you use that criteria.

On top of that, if you are going to give a grade, then the test has to be the same, I. E. The virus cannot have mutated to a different strand when it came to the USA and the Americas. Has the virus stayed the same? Of course not.

The new strain of coronavirus, called D614 G, emerged in Europe and has become the most common in the world. Research at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill and the University of Wisconsin-Madison shows the D614 G strain replicates faster and is more transmissible than the virus, originating in China, that spread in the beginning of the pandemic.

In fact, last I checked there were six strains of Corona, and there are different types that predominate in different regions, but viral mutation is a fringe story because it gets in the way of grading governments.

The single greatest knock I had on the Trump administration was failing to have enough testing available when the virus hit, however, we have had all the testing we ever could have asked for in the last few months and the number of cases keeps going up, so I am not even sure that criticism is fair.

The best anyone can do is to delay the virus from spreading like wildfire but curing it is out of reach. Maybe vaccines help, but maybe they do not.

It is fine and appropriate to judge governments on how they handle curable and treatable diseases. It is irrational to judge governments on how they handle incurable diseases and if they are judged irrationally, then they will behave irrationally which is my point.

Until governments behave rationally, we are not going to see the laws of supply and demand kick in, and prices for anything that can be affected by Covid will stay irrationally high.

Any uptick in a number of cases and governments will be pressured to "do something" like travel bans or lockdowns, never mind the fact that those things are actually long term bad for the people and the health of a nation and do not work to stop the spread of a virus.

Last who report showed the death rate of the virus is between 0. 23 and 0. 27%. Given the flu hits younger people more harshly than Covid, if you judge the virus in terms of expected years to live lost, I am not so sure it is all that much more deadly than the common flu.

I have been happy with all the reports with regards to people decriminalizing drugs like pot. The question in my mind is not whether drugs are bad (they are), but is the war on drugs worse than the drugs themselves? I think the war on drugs and the war on terror may have been worse and more deadly than either the drugs or the terrorism themselves.

Nobody had the balls to ask the question which was really more deadly: the virus or the war on the virus. Anyone who questions the war on the virus and economic and health damage that stemmed from it is in your words kooky.

And economic activity is not going to get back to normal until that question is really addressed. Government will behave irrationally and businesses will be fearful of expanding. If I were a hotel or airline company, the last thing I would be doing in this climate is thinking about is expanding services.

[QUOTE=Mcd2293;2505975]Anywho, I've just been hitting up online girls via mileroticos and have 2 hotties fortunately via SA but wanted an establishment where I could window shop.

Monger on fellas.[/QUOTE]Can you link which SA you are using? There are like 10 different ones out there and looking for one where someone has had some success.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2506019]"Hi. I like to fly to foreign countries in order to have sex with prostitutes and I'm wondering why you haven't been giving me massive discounts?.[/QUOTE]"It is because dummies like you have cheered on the government destroying the airline sector when it restricted international travel which did zero to slow the spread of the virus. Until birdbrains like you figure out that we are having to put government officials ahead of paying customers, your fares will continue to stay high and your service will continue to be shit."

Does anyone have an update on ZonaT? Are the clubs opening back up, and girls around there, even if opening underground-wise like a speakeasy?

I know it's the farthest away from Santa Fe and the prices are much higher, but I really enjoy the club / nightlight aspect of it and don't mind for the hotter girls there.