American Politics

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2715854]They will find either a prison cell or a morgue for him sooner rather than later!![/QUOTE]You'd like to think so. And hopefully after the collapse and restoration he'll see justice. But right now the high-level swamp dems are untouchable. That's why they won't release the tapes from Epstein Island.

In fact, they are now siccing the FBI on their political enemies, raiding journalists at Project Veritas and former Trump staffers. Another sign of a failing and moribund banana republic regime.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2715963]The journalist I trust the most is Matt Taibbi, and he went on Ben Shapiro's show, and it was a refreshing discussion between two honest people. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAxbhC9UyOM[/URL].

If you go to the 43 minute mark, you will see both these guys tear into the stupid narrative health officials were pushing.

If you go back to like the 40 minute mark, Shapiro lists the lies that destroyed the faith so many people have in government institutions. What gets me is now that we know so much of this stuff is bullshit, there are so many dumb Dems who swear they are true. It's like when Viliany says the vaccine prevented transmission. It is like no, dumbass the head of the CDC said it is not true. Why in the hell would you defy her?

It is like what are you gaining for lying?[/QUOTE]Good video. Matt Taibbi is worth listening to, as are Glenn Greenwald and Alex Berenson. Naturally, the latter two were forced out of their fake news organizations (The Intercept and The New York Times) for telling the truth.

As for why leftists lie, for the ones at the top it is because they have a lot to gain from their lies. But for the regular doofuses like we see in this forum, it can only be cognitive dissonance. For their entire lives this fake worldview and belief system has been so indoctrinated into them that it has become ingrained in the very grooves of their brains. For them to break out and accept the reality that the entire basis for their existence has been a lie must be truly terrifying. So they keep telling themselves increasingly outrageous falsehoods to cope.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2715810]Nah, it is not a coin flip. There are way more than 2 sides.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrIfa7gSqsY[/URL]

Brian Kelly case scenario #1: Inflation goes down to 5%. Fed has said they want to have neutral rates. That means they raise to 5%. Market goes down 70% and I am up 200+%.

BK scenario #2: Inflation goes to 10% next year. Fed goes to 10%. Market crashes 90% and my gains are in the stratosphere.

Santelli scenario: Money is pulled out of the market via massive unemployment. Market goes down 50%. I am up 150%. Argument with Santelli from traders is the Fed has said that unemployment is Biden's job not theirs. Santelli thinks the Fed will back off even though they have said they will not.

Your scenario: Biden waives a magic wand and oil floods the market as the Red Sea parts. Supply chains are mended overnight. China comes back on line but demand from them is way less than anticipated which does not cause inflation to rise. The Russia-Ukraine war is over, and Russian oil comes back on the market. Inflation craters to 2%. If all that happens and Biden is the miracle worker you think, that means prices in the stock market stay where they are.

For stocks to go up, it is not enough that oil demand and supply match each other. No, we have to be swimming in oil, and the only scenario I see with which that can happen is a recession that destroys demand. As for alternatives like electric cars, the lithium in the batteries of cars like Teslas is up 500%.

I do not invest in the stock market unless oil supply way outstrips demand because that is when there is low inflation. So Eih, my question to you is where is all this fucking oil going to come from Gramps? Your ass?[/QUOTE]Again, Biden did nothing different to pull us out of the latest Great Repub Economic Disaster than other incoming Dems had to do. Except his efforts worked better and faster than previously.

Yet you say you didn't bail out of the market when the incoming Obama admin had to do it. That is some lucky coin you've got to flip there. Make sure you don't lose it.

Bet you wish it had done as well for you all those other times it didn't flip up the right way, huh?

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2715893]Do you actually seriously think they're going to ban condoms and birth control? Haha! They really did brainwash you good, didn't they? Certainly, they might ban fag "marriage" because that was always a bunch of bullshit which should be decided democratically by the states.

As for the "right to privacy", and the idea abortion is a "Constitutional right", that is just hilarious. Like Washington, Adams and Jefferson were thinking 'we need to make sure sluts can kill their kids' while they were writing it. Just grasping ridiculously at non-existent straws. Only a leftist could lie so shamelessly. "Right to privacy" my ass. If I kill someone in private does that mean I can't be prosecuted? Well, maybe if I'm related to Biden, Pelosi or Clinton, but for anyone else that's a no.[/QUOTE]Yeah, "Haha!" They said the same thing about repealing Roe v Wade. In fact, some of the Repubs on the SCOTUS who voted to reject the idea of Right to Privacy and thereby repealed Roe v Wade were some of the people leading the laughs about that considering how respectful they pretended to be about now almost 50 years of legal precedent supporting it.

[B]Biden, other critics fear Thomass extreme position on contraception[/B]

[URL]https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/06/24/contraception-supreme-court-clarence-thomas-griswold/[/URL]

[QUOTE]In an opinion concurring with his conservative colleagues on the Supreme Court to overturn the fundamental right to an abortion, Justice Clarence Thomas wrote on Friday that striking down Roe v. Wade should also open up the high court to review other precedents that may be deemed demonstrably erroneous.

Among those, Thomas wrote, was the right for married couples to buy and use contraception without government restriction, from the landmark 1965 ruling in Griswold v. Connecticut.

In future cases, we should reconsider all of this Courts substantive due process precedents, including Griswold, Lawrence, and Obergefell, Thomas wrote on Page 119 of the opinion in Dobbs v. Jackson Womens Health, also referring to the rulings that legalized same-sex relationships and marriage equality, respectively. Because any substantive due process decision is demonstrably erroneous we have a duty to correct the error established in those precedents.[/QUOTE][B]Some States Already Are Targeting Birth Control[/B]

[URL]https://www.pewtrusts.org/research-and-analysis/blogs/stateline/2022/05/19/some-states-already-are-targeting-birth-control[/URL]

[QUOTE]But in the fine print of their measure, those Republicans revealed that their ambition wasnt only to target a familiar abortion foe. They were going after specific forms of birth control as well, notably, emergency contraceptives, often sold under the brand name Plan B, and intrauterine devices, known as IUDs. GOP lawmakers tried to stop Missouris Medicaid agency from paying for those forms of contraception.[/QUOTE][B]AFTER STRIKING DOWN ROE, SUPREME COURT JUSTICE THREATENS TO GO AFTER CONTRACEPTION, SAME-SEX MARRIAGE, AND BRING BACK SODOMY LAWS[/B]

[URL]https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/06/supreme-court-roe-v-wade-clarence-thomas-contraception-same-sex-marriage-sodomy[/URL]

[B]After Roe v. Wade ruling, Texas AG Ken Paxton say he would defend reinstating state's sodomy law[/B]

[URL]https://www.sacurrent.com/news/after-roe-v-wade-ruling-texas-ag-ken-paxton-say-he-would-defend-reinstating-states-sodomy-law-29249154[/URL]

[URL]https://www.aclu.org/other/update-status-sodomy-laws[/URL]

[QUOTE]Sodomy laws generally prohibit oral and anal sex, even between consenting adults. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Villainy;2715945]

BTW Sweden falls in almost exactly the same place in 'deaths per capita'. The neighbors: Denmark, Finland and Norway all fall in the bottom 10% of deaths per capita. Hmmmm.

I guess if you are at the 35th percentile of deaths per capita you might think that was pretty good. But your neighbors are at the 10th percentile. I don't know if care much about your family but if it was my family I sure as hell would like to be taking the course that brought our death rate down from the 35th percentile to the 10th percentile. [/QUOTE]The wingnut Covid psuedo-scientists and conspiracy theorists are dependent on comparing Sweden to nations other than the logical choices of their Nordic neighbors. For after all, they need to save face in a hooker forum. In the US red states still lead blue states in per capita deaths, further exposing their lies that masks, vaccines, other restrictions don't work. They are a party to spreading lies that have sent many people unnecessarily to a pre-mature grave. And in the case of this forum, some just in response to their frustrations in having to cancel their sex vacations. What is it about hooker forums that attracts such a high proportion of good family values conservatives? That's an interesting sociological question all by it's lonesome, but I digress.

[URL]https://abcnews.go.com/Health/red-blue-america-glaring-divide-covid-19-death/story?id=83649085[/URL]

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2715976]Yeah that was my reaction when the leftard mentioned ventilators. Remember a couple of years back when they were the big thing in the fake news media, and Nipples Cuomo was ranting about them every day in between sexually assaulting women, on his show that hollyweird gave him an emmy for?

Then it turned out they were worse than useless, killed everyone who was put on them, and had been a total waste of life and money. So of course the fake news just memoryholed them like Biden collapsing on his plane steps or shitting his pants in the Vatican. Kind of encapsulates the entire scamdemic really, and indeed the entire Washington govt / media swamp.[/QUOTE]Jeez, cupcake, are you Elvis the MD in disguise?

Ventilators killed everyone who was put on them? Really? Did your brain ever think that only the very serious COVID cases were put on ventilators? No, you probably didn't. Why not say that chemo and radiation kills everybody who gets that treatment. Because, after all, everybody who has cancer eventually dies, right?

People who think like you are the reason why the US is in such bad shape. Everything is a conspiracy. All doctors, lawyers, journalists, environmentalists, etc. Have all ganged up on the Mango Mussolini and his brain-dead cultists. When the cult looks at a group of people marching somewhere and one person is out-of-step with the rest, the cult claims that everybody else is out-of-step with him.

Oh, yes, and let's not forget the "fake news media". The tRUMP cultists don't know that the leaders in Germany from 1933 to 1945 called the press "fake news" too. Probably because it takes education to know that and education isn't the strong suit of you cultists.

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2715893]Do you actually seriously think they're going to ban condoms and birth control? Haha! They really did brainwash you good, didn't they? Certainly, they might ban fag "marriage" because that was always a bunch of bullshit which should be decided democratically by the states.

As for the "right to privacy", and the idea abortion is a "Constitutional right", that is just hilarious. Like Washington, Adams and Jefferson were thinking 'we need to make sure sluts can kill their kids' while they were writing it. Just grasping ridiculously at non-existent straws. Only a leftist could lie so shamelessly. "Right to privacy" my ass. If I kill someone in private does that mean I can't be prosecuted? Well, maybe if I'm related to Biden, Pelosi or Clinton, but for anyone else that's a no.[/QUOTE]I wish you'd simply pick one argument and stick to it.

Justice Thomas wrote that he would consider looking at other "precedents" to determine whether or not to overturn them: "In future cases, we should reconsider all of this Court's substantive due process precedents, including Griswold, Lawrence, and Obergefell," Thomas wrote on Page 119 of the opinion in Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health, also referring to the rulings that legalized same-sex relationships and marriage equality, respectively. "Because any substantive due process decision is 'demonstrably erroneous' . We have a duty to 'correct the error' established in those precedents. " Thomas added, "After overruling these demonstrably erroneous decisions, the question would remain whether other constitutional provisions guarantee the myriad rights that our substantive due process cases have generated. " It is interesting, though, that he didn't say anything about interracial marriage which is based upon the same due process argument. Hypocrisy much? [URL]https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/06/24/contraception-supreme-court-clarence-thomas-griswold/[/URL].

Griswold was the case that made it legal for married couples to buy contraceptives. What part of Thomas' writing do you not understand? But he did use some bigly words so maybe that's it.

The three Justices appointed by Donnie the Dumbass all "lied" during their confirmation hearings. They should be brought up on felony charges for lying to Congress during their confirmation hearings when questioned about Roe v. Wade. They will all vote to overturn every decision based on the due process argument and you RethugliKKKans will be happy. You will have turned the US into a Christian version of Iran.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2715963] It's like when Viliany says the vaccine prevented transmission. It is like no, dumbass the head of the CDC said it is not true. Why in the hell would you defy her?
[/QUOTE]You've demonstrated time and again that your reading skills are lacking. Let me say it again slowly and simply. Maybe you'll finally understand (but I sincerely doubt it).

I [B]never[/B] said that the vaccine prevented transmission. What I said, is that [B]the vaccine makes it far less likely that you will catch the original strain of CoVid.[/B].

If you don't get the virus, you [B]can't transmit the virus[/B]. You can't transmit what you don't have.

Hey, I have an idea. Maybe Matt Taibbi can explain it to you.

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2716027]Good video. Matt Taibbi is worth listening to, as are Glenn Greenwald and Alex Berenson. Naturally, the latter two were forced out of their fake news organizations (The Intercept and The New York Times) for telling the truth.

As for why leftists lie, for the ones at the top it is because they have a lot to gain from their lies. But for the regular doofuses like we see in this forum, it can only be cognitive dissonance. For their entire lives this fake worldview and belief system has been so indoctrinated into them that it has become ingrained in the very grooves of their brains. For them to break out and accept the reality that the entire basis for their existence has been a lie must be truly terrifying. So they keep telling themselves increasingly outrageous falsehoods to cope.[/QUOTE]Now we all know why you love these guys so much. They are wrong on almost everything and have lost touch with reality. Sort of like the Orange Buffoon and all of his cultists. [URL]https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/04/pandemics-wrongest-man/618475/[/URL] and [URL]https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/media/greenwald-intercept-feud/2021/05/20/34732c92-b727-11eb-a5fe-bb49dc89a248_story.html[/URL].

But sure, rant on about how the other side has cognitive dissonance and a fake worldview. ROFL.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2715810]Nah, it is not a coin flip. There are way more than 2 sides.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrIfa7gSqsY[/URL]

Brian Kelly case scenario #1: Inflation goes down to 5%. Fed has said they want to have neutral rates. That means they raise to 5%. Market goes down 70% and I am up 200+%.

BK scenario #2: Inflation goes to 10% next year. Fed goes to 10%. Market crashes 90% and my gains are in the stratosphere.

Santelli scenario: Money is pulled out of the market via massive unemployment. Market goes down 50%. I am up 150%. Argument with Santelli from traders is the Fed has said that unemployment is Biden's job not theirs. Santelli thinks the Fed will back off even though they have said they will not..[/QUOTE]Here is Rick Santelli's infamous "just buy cars and houses and give them to people!" pro Socialism Doom and Gloom rant against the Obama-Biden Administration's since proven wildly successful Great Dem Recovery from the Great Repub Crash and Recession prior to Trump's:

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/video/2015/02/06/santellis-tea-party-rant-february-19-2009.html[/URL]

Less than 3 weeks later, after Obama signed and passed the Dems' American Recovery and Reinvestment Act without a single Repub vote in the House and only 3 in the Senate and, remarkably, just days after Obama publicly made one of the greatest stock market calls of all time, the USA economy and stock market began one of the greatest, longest and steadiest Economic Expansions, uninterrupted months of positive jobs creation and Bull Market Runs in history:

[B]President Obama made one of history's greatest stock market calls in March 2009[/B]

[URL]https://www.businessinsider.com/obama-buying-stocks-potentially-good-deal-march-2009-2017-1[/URL]

The fact that you would include idiot loser Santelli's prognostications on anything as one of your coin flip options speaks volumes about your cluelessness on the topics of investing, the stock market and the USA's complex national economy.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2716039]GOP lawmakers tried to stop Missouris Medicaid agency from paying for those forms of contraception.[/QUOTE]Aha! There it is. Nobody is outlawing contraception. We are simply saying that the taxpayer should not be on the hook for it. If sluts want to fuck around, they pay for their own contraception.

Of course most democrats consider that the same as banning it, because they owe their very existence to the government teat, be it gibsmedat welfare or useless make work govt jobs.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2716039]Yeah, "Haha!" They said the same thing about repealing Roe v Wade. In fact, some of the Repubs on the SCOTUS who voted to reject the idea of Right to Privacy and thereby repealed Roe v Wade were some of the people leading the laughs about that considering how respectful they pretended to be about now almost 50 years of legal precedent supporting it.

[B]Biden, other critics fear Thomass extreme position on contraception[/B]

[URL]https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/06/24/contraception-supreme-court-clarence-thomas-griswold/[/URL]

[B]Some States Already Are Targeting Birth Control[/B]

[URL]https://www.pewtrusts.org/research-and-analysis/blogs/stateline/2022/05/19/some-states-already-are-targeting-birth-control[/URL]

[B]AFTER STRIKING DOWN ROE, SUPREME COURT JUSTICE THREATENS TO GO AFTER CONTRACEPTION, SAME-SEX MARRIAGE, AND BRING BACK SODOMY LAWS[/B]

[URL]https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/06/supreme-court-roe-v-wade-clarence-thomas-contraception-same-sex-marriage-sodomy[/URL]..[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/07/04/nolte-this-july-4th-trump-americas-most-popular-politician/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.breitbart.com/latin-america/2022/07/04/exclusive-guatemalan-president-suggests-biden-letting-drugs-in-from-venezuela-to-negotiate-oil/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2715841]LOL. Ventilators. Oh boy.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=ChrisP;2715976]Yeah that was my reaction when the leftard mentioned ventilators. Remember a couple of years back when they were the big thing in the fake news media, and Nipples Cuomo was ranting about them every day in between sexually assaulting women, on his show that hollyweird gave him an emmy for?

Then it turned out they were worse than useless, killed everyone who was put on them, and had been a total waste of life and money. So of course the fake news just memoryholed them like Biden collapsing on his plane steps or shitting his pants in the Vatican. Kind of encapsulates the entire scamdemic really, and indeed the entire Washington govt / media swamp.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=PVMonger;2716139]Jeez, cupcake, are you Elvis the MD in disguise?

Ventilators killed everyone who was put on them? Really? Did your little pea-sized brain ever think that only the very serious COVID cases were put on ventilators? No, you probably didn't. Why not say that chemo and radiation kills everybody who gets that treatment. Because, after all, everybody who has cancer eventually dies, right?

People who think like you are the reason why the US is in such bad shape. Everything is a conspiracy. All doctors, lawyers, journalists, environmentalists, etc. Have all ganged up on the Mango Mussolini and his brain-dead cultists. When the cult looks at a group of people marching somewhere and one person is out-of-step with the rest, the cult claims that everybody else is out-of-step with him.
[/QUOTE]My compliments to PVMonger who destroyed the skeptical, irrational comments.

I just wanted to add 2 things.

First, you guys are confusing [B]cause[/B] and [B]effect[/B].

People died on ventilators (effect) SO, ventilators caused their deaths (cause). As PVMonger mentioned, people are put on ventilators because their lungs are not oxigenating the blood. When the organs don't receive enough oxygen they start to fail or shutdown and death follows. Ventilators are a last resort to help the patient oxigenate their blood and hopefully their lungs heal sufficiently to be taken off the ventilator.

My second point is that perhaps you should think of it in football terms. Your team has 5 seconds left in the 4th quarter and your team is down by 5 points. They are at mid-field. What do you do?? You throw a Hail-Mary. Its a low percentage play (unless you have Aaron Rodger as your quarterback) but its the play that gives you a chance.

Well ventilators are the Hail-Mary play when the CoVid patient is suffering from hypoxemia.

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2716027]Good video. Matt Taibbi is worth listening to, as are Glenn Greenwald and Alex Berenson. Naturally, the latter two were forced out of their fake news organizations (The Intercept and The New York Times) for telling the truth.

As for why leftists lie, for the ones at the top it is because they have a lot to gain from their lies. But for the regular doofuses like we see in this forum, it can only be cognitive dissonance. For their entire lives this fake worldview and belief system has been so indoctrinated into them that it has become ingrained in the very grooves of their brains. For them to break out and accept the reality that the entire basis for their existence has been a lie must be truly terrifying. So they keep telling themselves increasingly outrageous falsehoods to cope.[/QUOTE]Not even 50% in one state not even Delaware LOL.

[URL]https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/07/04/poll-joe-bidens-job-approval-underwater-48-states-30-overall/[/URL]

The loons on this thread are like Paulie the pipe rider, she says she writes in comment sections on conservative media websites?

Seriously? What kinda loser does that? Well that's what kind of fools you're arguing with.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2716139]

Ventilators killed everyone who was put on them? Really? Did your brain ever think that only the very serious COVID cases were put on ventilators? No, you probably didn't.[/QUOTE]LOL. Completely wrong and Chris is totally right. The problem with Covid was low oxygen not ventilation / high carbon dioxide. The thought process was that you put the really sick ones on ventilators because it is "doing something". It was hard to criticize a doctor putting someone on a ventilator who was breathing quickly and oxygen levels were down. It was pretty evident though that almost everyone put on them died. Instead, positive pressure was used and higher levels of oxygen were used, and people did much better.

So yeah, really sick people were put on ventilators, and it was observed that most died. Cuomo's call for thousands of ventilators like the lockdowns, hysteria about the vaccines, washing hands, social distancing, and masks were all shown later to either have done nothing or been harmful. That you do not see that is not a surprise. You masturbate to the government narrative.