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Have been here almost a week. Found two massage places in Yeounsu, 30 minutes with the subway or 5000 for a cab. Also tried an escort at home, very good. Anma cost 170 k, escort 250. Difficult to compare the two experiences.

In a massage, sex is part of a larger package, including massage, showering, oil B2B massage. No kissing, no English. Cheap and long, the whole thing can last 2 hours.

Escorts are a bit more complex, sometimes very pricey. Still have to find a good escort agency or website, so tips are welcome. Mine was found with massage republic, 250 k for 1 hour.

Arthur out.

Another day, another adventure. Found the barber shop in Yeonsu. Double pole, second floor. Massage 50000, OWO and CIM for additional 20. That lady should be teaching the skills in universities.

I also discovered that some escorts take the day off on Sunday. So if you need shopping, better provide the day before or on Monday.

On the 4 experiences until now, the escort was the best. She could speak English, and that makes a lot of difference.

The massage places are nice, but it is hard to get a message across.

Other thing, kakaotalk is really useful. Once you contact a girl, you can stay in touch easy with that little app. And it is fast. Free WiFi is available in many places, hardly the need for a data plan.

The sex industry is there, and it's big. It is a bit expensive, but it has its charm. So different than the European one, especially the massage places deserve to be tried at least once.

As long as I know, I was never rejected from a place. People is kind, but cautious. Understandable.

No sign of danger on the streets, not even late at night. It is only cold as hell. Below zero and wind make it hard to walk about.

Taxi is cheap. Food is cheap. The only expensive stuff is the honey.

Oh well.

Arthur out.

[QUOTE=Arthur66;1838814]Another day, another adventure. Found the barber shop in Yeonsu. Double pole, second floor. Massage 50000, OWO and CIM for additional 20. That lady should be teaching the skills in universities.

I also discovered that some escorts take the day off on Sunday. So if you need shopping, better provide the day before or on Monday.

On the 4 experiences until now, the escort was the best. She could speak English, and that makes a lot of difference.

The massage places are nice, but it is hard to get a message across.

Other thing, kakaotalk is really useful. Once you contact a girl, you can stay in touch easy with that little app. And it is fast. Free WiFi is available in many places, hardly the need for a data plan.

The sex industry is there, and it's big. It is a bit expensive, but it has its charm. So different than the European one, especially the massage places deserve to be tried at least once.

As long as I know, I was never rejected from a place. People is kind, but cautious. Understandable.

No sign of danger on the streets, not even late at night. It is only cold as hell. Below zero and wind make it hard to walk about.

Taxi is cheap. Food is cheap. The only expensive stuff is the honey.

Oh well.

Arthur out.[/QUOTE]Oh 50000 plus 20000 sounds fairly cheap.

Did they offer full sex for extra or only BJ?

[QUOTE=LovinAsia;1839159]Oh 50000 plus 20000 sounds fairly cheap.

Did they offer full sex for extra or only BJ?[/QUOTE]Only BJ. I don't think the full Monty was on offer. But how can I be sure? No freaking English, grrrrr!

OK, there is nothing to do here, true as the sun. But it is cheaper than downtown Seoul, I stay out of the mess, and it is comfortable stay.

I tried to contact other escorts, but with no result. I am too far, and one hour is too short. Not going to cough up; for pussy here. With that money I get pampered a whole afternoon in a club and get a Russian superstar. I saw a Russian disco in Yeonsu. But I am diffident of those places, particularly the Russian ones.

Booked Sue again. Proposed her to sleep over and breakfast in bed. Invited her out for dinner. Both no way. Darn. If I get her as girlfriend I am fixed. Or does she get fixed?

Either way, I am drained. Mish, 69, DATY, OWO, mish again, and finally CIM. Finished spot on the hour, my dick has an internal clock. Must be experience.

Boys I am tired. Need a holiday.

Arthur out.

I am visiting S. Korea for the first time ever at the end of March and looking for any guidance on hotels near the Itaewon Hooker Hill area. Even having RTFF I still have no idea where to stay. I am a white guy from the USA That speaks zero of the native language. That leaves me doubting any success at fish anma. I am familiar with a couple hooker bars in Shanghai (judys, Manhattan) and wondering if that exists in s. Korea. Appreciate the help in advance!

[QUOTE=Hobbiest1;1839546]I am visiting S. Korea for the first time ever at the end of March and looking for any guidance on hotels near the Itaewon Hooker Hill area. Even having RTFF I still have no idea where to stay. I am a white guy from the USA That speaks zero of the native language. That leaves me doubting any success at fish anma. I am familiar with a couple hooker bars in Shanghai (judys, Manhattan) and wondering if that exists in s. Korea. Appreciate the help in advance![/QUOTE]For hotel in Itaewon, I'm partial to Imperial Palace. The Hamilton is the old, well-known spot but last time I was there it was really showing it's age. Hyatt is relatively close, but $$ The Hilton is very US-friendly and has a regular shuttle to Itaewon (last shuttle around 9 PM), but again on the expensive end.

[QUOTE=Hobbiest1;1839546]I am visiting S. Korea for the first time ever at the end of March and looking for any guidance on hotels near the Itaewon Hooker Hill area. Even having RTFF I still have no idea where to stay. I am a white guy from the USA That speaks zero of the native language. That leaves me doubting any success at fish anma. I am familiar with a couple hooker bars in Shanghai (judys, Manhattan) and wondering if that exists in s. Korea. Appreciate the help in advance![/QUOTE]I've been to both Itewon and Gamgnam. I would suggest Gamgnam as there is not near as many Foreigners as Itewon. You'll feel like you are in New York City there. As far as hotels in Gamgnam I found one called Hotel Cancun in the Seoju Area about 10 min cab ride to Gangnam Station area. Went to a bar / night club there that wasn't bad either called Ho Bar. I think it's right down the street from from Gangnam Station. If this is your first time to Korea there are some bar differences and this place was more westernized. Most bars here sell a set of beers for like $30-80 for 3-6 bottles plus anju or a bottle of liquor for 100 to 200 but this place has single serve and mixed drinks plus a middle age club scene. I didn't check any of the anmas or salons but there is I for here on them. Download Waze and purchase a wifi egg at the airport so you have Internet. Also Kakao is an app they use a lot. I would avoid hooker hill minus to just walk through and see the action.

There is a hotel (a legit one) on hooker hill. The ITW hotel about halfway up the hill. Very nice restaurant in it too. Pretty cheap.

Incheon to Seoul is around 45 km. It took 2+ hours with a cab and 40 k. Got stuck in traffic and had to get the subway, absolutely packed. On the way back could not find any cab driver willing to bring me back to Incheon and had to travel with the subway back home, 2. 5 hours. Had to give up twice on hopping in, train full to the roof. I saw for the first time "rough" behavior among Koreans.

Logistics are really bad in the area. Long commuting is hardly possible.

On the positive side, it is not needed to go far. Anywhere you are, look for a karaoke, hour hotel, neon lights, buildings with writings at all floors, shabby and messy roads. And there is a good change you will find fun close by. Best bet massage places, it is a bit hit and miss if you don't know your way. In the worst case scenario you will get a massage and nothing else. Ask for service, it is the keyword that they use to get the message about extras.

If you behave normally, look clean, greet in proper Korean, and are respectful, I doubt you will be sent away. I suspect stories about being shooed away are coming from people who do not know how to behave in a civilization manner.

Went to a pub yesterday, full of foreigners. Loud, fat, dressed like hobos, drunk. I think I will stick to the Korean scene. At least for the moment.

Tip: if you plan to stay for more than a couple of weeks, it makes a lot of sense to buy a bicycle, or to rent one. Distances are large, car is out of the question, and subway is not optimal. With a bicycle you can get anywhere. Be careful in traffic though.

Arthur out.

[QUOTE=Arthur66;1840826]

Tip: if you plan to stay for more than a couple of weeks, it makes a lot of sense to buy a bicycle, or to rent one. Distances are large, car is out of the question, and subway is not optimal. With a bicycle you can get anywhere. Be careful in traffic though.

Arthur out.[/QUOTE]I would not recommend getting a bicycle, unless it is just for exercise. You will bike for hours and have no idea where you are going. The subway is extremely efficient. Some of the lines get packed in certain areas during rush hour (about 6-8) but overall it can't be beat. Buses are great too as they have their own lanes and can move nicely through traffic. If coming from Incheon, you should always take a bus. The main reason I am commenting is to say, if you are coming on vacation do not get a bike as your main mode of transportation, awful idea.

[QUOTE=Arthur66;1840826]Incheon to Seoul is around 45 km. It took 2+ hours with a cab and 40 k. Got stuck in traffic and had to get the subway, absolutely packed. On the way back could not find any cab driver willing to bring me back to Incheon and had to travel with the subway back home, 2. 5 hours. Had to give up twice on hopping in, train full to the roof. I saw for the first time "rough" behavior among Koreans.

Logistics are really bad in the area. Long commuting is hardly possible.

On the positive side, it is not needed to go far. Anywhere you are, look for a karaoke, hour hotel, neon lights, buildings with writings at all floors, shabby and messy roads. And there is a good change you will find fun close by. Best bet massage places, it is a bit hit and miss if you don't know your way. In the worst case scenario you will get a massage and nothing else. Ask for service, it is the keyword that they use to get the message about extras.

Arthur out.[/QUOTE]Interesting post, but "service" is often used to mean something extra given for free, like when you buy a sandwich and the shopkeeper throws in a pint of orange juice.

The word "yeonae", rhyming with "fun play", is more often used for sex at barbershops and massage parlors.

[QUOTE=Koyangi;1840942]Interesting post, but "service" is often used to mean something extra given for free, like when you buy a sandwich and the shopkeeper throws in a pint of orange juice.

The word "yeonae", rhyming with "fun play", is more often used for sex at barbershops and massage parlors.[/QUOTE]I think it may depend on where you're at as far the word used. I've had some massage places straight up ask if I was "shexy". It's kind of the like the word sex but with a sh. Most of the time they have girls dedicated just for sex from what I've learned. One shop I've went to many times the guy at the front desk will ask me if I want a massage or service. If you are wanting fun and no massage, I would suggest not to go with the aroma massage as it is typically $20 more than the other normal massage and if you just ask the girl to give you an aroma massage they will anyways. I've never "yeonae" used but I'm sure it if you speak some Korean that is the word the provider will use. Most of the time I've always heard service used.

About the bicycle, did not intend to advise it as a long distance solution, but just to go around locally. Have not expressed myself clearly.

Concerning service, being a non Korean I used that expression often enough. With excellent results.

Any of you senior members would know where to have fun in Incheon? I have yet to find a local fun place.

PM if you prefer.

Thank you in advance.

Arthur