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[QUOTE=Member#4221;1685067]Cebu cityA German was killed while a Frenchman and an Indian were wounded early Friday after they were shot by two Filipinos following an argument inside a fast food restaurant in Barangay Tabunok, Talisay City, about 12 km south of here.

The German, Henry Haffner, 31 and a temporary resident of Barangay Tisa in Cebu City, suffered a gunshot wound in the stomach and died a few minutes after he was brought to a private hospital.

Wounded were Frenchman Julian Millard, 31 and Cheten Saparaiya, 32, Indian national both married and residents of Barangay Pooc in Talisay City.

Both were in stable condition at a government hospital in Cebu City.[/QUOTE]Was at the local McDo that I have visited. Though I never eat there. But with a cutie who was hungry. Lots of commotion, roads closed and what I hear perhaps some jealous crap involved. Never trust a jealous pinoy with gun IMHO. Seems some were shot at randomly as well I was told (wrong place wrong time).

[QUOTE=RumBuddy;1684639]I think you are right, I still have the runs, I just don't feel sick like at first. I think I will go to the doctor today. I will be in AC soon and don't want to waste time on the toilet.[/QUOTE]By now you may already have seen a doctor. If you haven't, here is an approach that has worked for me on several occasions. (yes, I somehow repeat the same mistake, probably from eating some bit of lettuce or other raw vegetable that has been washed under tap water, if at all.).

Go to Generic or Star Drugs and hand them a note on which you have neatly written "ciprofloxacin 500 Mg. Generic * 14 tablets. " They will probably not question whether the prescription is from a doctor, and the price will be very reasonable. Cost should be between 200 and 250 pesos. Take the cipro twice a day for seven days; symptoms will start to disappear within a couple days. Somebody will flame me for giving out medical advice that's beyond my pay grade, but this is what was prescribed for me by a Phils MD, and I have repeated it successfully a couple other times.

[QUOTE=CoolTraveler;1685039]The funny thing is, you have Mindanao, which is predominantly Muslim, claimed by predominantly Christian Phillipines. Then you have Sabah, a predominantly Roman Catholic state, claimed by a fake Muslim Sultan. {S N I P}[/QUOTE]Actually, Mindanao is predominantly Christian (70% and even Zamboanga City is 70% Christian. However, the dangers facing non-Muslim visitors to Zamboanga City in particular, are vey real.

Ikksman.

[QUOTE=CoolTraveler;1685039]The funny thing is, you have Mindanao, which is predominantly Muslim, claimed by predominantly Christian Phillipines. Then you have Sabah, a predominantly Roman Catholic state, claimed by a fake Muslim Sultan. I grew up in Sabah (don't live there anymore). They are waiting for the Sultan to get there. They ware waiting so that they can slit his bloody throat. These guys have connection to Sabah in claim only, bit not in terms of its people or culture. Malaysia for long has been trying very hard to Islamasize (is there such a word) Sabah. And the MLF are supported by both Malaysia and Sultanate of Brunei.[/QUOTE]Actually Mindanao is predominantly Christian, and has been so for several decades.

GE.

[QUOTE=WickedRoger;1685124]Was at the local McDo that I have visited. Though I never eat there. But with a cutie who was hungry. Lots of commotion, roads closed and what I hear perhaps some jealous crap involved. Never trust a jealous pinoy with gun IMHO. Seems some were shot at randomly as well I was told (wrong place wrong time).[/QUOTE]WR,

Wasn't a relationship drama. The reason was money. The french and the Indian were the basic target. It was a moneylender-story. The German guy was in the wrong place at wrong place. I heard he was an aid official who helped after the earthquake in Bohol and also in Leyte after the hurricane. Poor guy with a bad karma.

[QUOTE=Sid70;1685361]WR

Wasn't a relationship drama. The reason was money. The french and the Indian were the basic target. It was a moneylender-story. The German guy was in the wrong place at wrong place. I heard he was an aid official who helped after the earthquake in Bohol and also in Leyte after the hurricane. Poor guy with a bad karma.[/QUOTE]The [I]only[/I] reason that this sort of news doesn't crop up on a daily basis, but rather only once a month or two, is that firearms are beyond the financial reach of the median Pinoy. Highly emotional with poor to non-existent impulse control and a tendency to brood, is not really the personality type that you want to be carrying a deadly weapon; but, it describes the (vast) majority of the populace. If guns cost a tenth of what they do, there wouldn't be room in the cemeteries for what would happen here.

Don't pick an argument with a Filipino. In fact, if you see one who is upset about anything, just get as far away as possible. An entire country of troubled juveniles in adult bodies, potentially with concealed weapons, is not really a safe place to get into a personality conflict. Did I mention holding a grudge, an inflated sense of pride, easily "hurt," and an inferiority-superiority complex that verges on the pathological? Now add guns and / or knives. Just play it safe. Imagine that you are in a mental asylum, only the inhabitants are armed. It's impossible to be too polite.

[QUOTE=RollAides;1685527]The [I]only[/I] reason that this sort of news doesn't crop up on a daily basis, but rather only once a month or two, is that firearms are beyond the financial reach of the median Pinoy. Highly emotional with poor to non-existent impulse control and a tendency to brood, is not really the personality type that you want to be carrying a deadly weapon; but, it describes the (vast) majority of the populace. If guns cost a tenth of what they do, there wouldn't be room in the cemeteries for what would happen here.[/QUOTE]I would like to add a few comments to RA's post.

Firstly, I wonder if there has been any change to the personality and temperament of the pinoy over the years. I say this because up until the 1970's, [b]handguns were quite common in the Philippines[/b]. But I don't have any statistics for homicide rates, etc.

I remember on my first visits to PI in 1974/5, there were still prominent signs at the entrance to many bars and clubs requesting patrons to check in their firearms.

And I was warned not to smile at girls who were with guys. I was regaled with stories of westerners getting shot because they started chatting to girls who were seemingly alone, but suddenly a pinoy returned from the CR or wherever.

But, as always, if one was sensible, tolerant and respectful, then trouble was unlikely - just like today, and just like many other countries when we are visitors to those places. Too many tourists and businessmen seem to forget that they are guests in the country.

Ikksman.

[QUOTE=Member#4221;1685067]Cebu cityA German was killed while a Frenchman and an Indian were wounded early Friday after they were shot by two Filipinos following an argument inside a fast food restaurant in Barangay Tabunok, Talisay City, about 12 km south of here.

The German, Henry Haffner, 31 and a temporary resident of Barangay Tisa in Cebu City, suffered a gunshot wound in the stomach and died a few minutes after he was brought to a private hospital.

Wounded were Frenchman Julian Millard, 31 and Cheten Saparaiya, 32, Indian national both married and residents of Barangay Pooc in Talisay City.

Both were in stable condition at a government hospital in Cebu City.[/QUOTE]One newspaper I read yesterday, it was a free one at Jolibee, gave the statement of the GF of Millard, stating the Filipinos were making fun of the foreigners and the girlfriend of Millard verbally abused the Filipinos for their amusement. The German was an innocent bystander, going whale watching. The Filipinos returned and started shooting.

[QUOTE=RollAides;1685527]The [I]only[/I] reason that this sort of news doesn't crop up on a daily basis, but rather only once a month or two, is that firearms are beyond the financial reach of the median Pinoy. Highly emotional with poor to non-existent impulse control and a tendency to brood, is not really the personality type that you want to be carrying a deadly weapon; but, it describes the (vast) majority of the populace. If guns cost a tenth of what they do, there wouldn't be room in the cemeteries for what would happen here.

Don't pick an argument with a Filipino. In fact, if you see one who is upset about anything, just get as far away as possible. An entire country of troubled juveniles in adult bodies, potentially with concealed weapons, is not really a safe place to get into a personality conflict. Did I mention holding a grudge, an inflated sense of pride, easily "hurt," and an inferiority-superiority complex that verges on the pathological? Now add guns and / or knives. Just play it safe. Imagine that you are in a mental asylum, only the inhabitants are armed. It's impossible to be too polite.[/QUOTE]I met a guy living in a squatter settlement who had a small. 22 revolver made illegally, a paltik. This guy had next to nothing (they stole their power for electric lines), and lived in a place on stilts over muck.

I met a guy in Cotcot who was a paltik maker.

There may be more guns out there than you realize.

[QUOTE=SergeantRay;1686361]I met a guy living in a squatter settlement who had a small. 22 revolver made illegally, a paltik. This guy had next to nothing (they stole their power for electric lines), and lived in a place on stilts over muck.

I met a guy in Cotcot who was a paltik maker.

There may be more guns out there than you realize.[/QUOTE]

Yup. I wasn't really meaning to make a statement about gun ownership stats, just telling people to be careful. Violence can happen fairly casually here, it's not like anything you're used to, so just stay extra-safe.

Peace out.

Just wanting to find peoples opinions on the worst months to visit PI, interested in the weather issues but also anything cultural that might interfere with my mongering in AC.

This place will never advance when the local populace thinks like this.

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"Everyone is angry at him. It is like he went to the United States and insulted the name of Martin Luther King," the ABS-CBN news website quoted Pardo as saying.

[QUOTE=AusMonger100;1686413]Just wanting to find peoples opinions on the worst months to visit PI, interested in the weather issues but also anything cultural that might interfere with my mongering in AC.[/QUOTE]Every month.

[QUOTE=RollAides;1686412]Yup. I wasn't really meaning to make a statement about gun ownership stats, just telling people to be careful. Violence can happen fairly casually here, it's not like anything you're used to, so just stay extra-safe.

Peace out.[/QUOTE]Most people get killed from their own stupidity. Guns just happen to be one of the methods!

[QUOTE=Member#4221;1686716]This place will never advance when the local populace thinks like this.

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"Everyone is angry at him. It is like he went to the United States and insulted the name of Martin Luther King," the ABS-CBN news website quoted Pardo as saying.[/QUOTE]Just another dumb american running his mouth in a foriegn country in IMHO.