Chat Rooms & Pen Pals

[QUOTE=Mbsl65;2034434]Viber discloses the location of you unless you turn off the future. Other apps do too. Just be careful. Also many of the girls do work for the call centers and they do support USA based companies. If you are chatting with a girl and she is based in Cebu City area and she is a call center agent or BPO, most likely she may have access to some of your private information based on your purchases.

Delta, Amex, Chase Morgan, Charter Communications, United Health Care, SiriusXM and many others are operational in Cebu City and Manila. I am sure you maybe a customer one of several of them. So, another good idea is to stay away from the call center workers.[/QUOTE]Always use a throwaway phone number, simply change SIM cards once in a while, and do a factory reset on the phone. Use a separate phone for mongering only.

Use different pictures for every website and profile you have. You have a camera on the phone, a bunch of selfies are very easy to take. Make them different enough so that someone looking at both sets cannot tell they are the same person very easily. (Wear hats, sunglasses, different clothes, different backgrounds, comb your hair differently, clean shaven, stubble etc).

Here is an idea for disposable emails. Sign up to [URL]gmx.com[/URL]. It is a free email service that doesn't look like one and allows you to have up to 10 aliases in play at any time. You can set up the receiving email client under any one of these emails you want and you will always get the lot that has been sent to you. Deleting an email alias will stop only those with that address from contacting you and you can keep your email client settings.

And always use a fake name (I use my real but common first name and a fake last name), date of birth etc (I use my best friend from high school days birthday, it is only 12 days different than mine so age is always correct except for 12 days a year.).

It can be a bit of a pain but considering what you have to lose, especially those with SOs, it is actually low-cost insurance.

Never make it easy for the girl to find out anything about the real you or be able to locate you later.

[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2037247]It can be a bit of a pain but considering what you have to lose, especially those with SOs, it is actually low-cost insurance. Never make it easy for the girl to find out anything about the real you or be able to locate you later.[/QUOTE]If I had to go through all of that just to get some pussy, then I would probably just go without.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2037287]If I had to go through all of that just to get some pussy, then I would probably just go without.[/QUOTE]I can agree with you on this. So much easier and cheaper to just pay as you go. The amount of time, effort and brain cells used to disguise and hide could have been used to run a Fortune 500 company!

I agree with Red Kilt on "accept me for what I am".

Simple, the ladies tell me is simply the opposite of complicated. That is to say, they aren't into making problems.

What do you guys think "I am open minded" means? I think these women usually are saying by "open minded" that they will have sex on the first date.

Of course, 90+% of the DIA girls have sex on the first date, LOL.

[QUOTE=RedKilt;2033705]I know you said "almost always" Om I but I will offer alternatives. Although it is clear that this "code" is used by transgender persons I suggest that it is used much more widely than that.

This topic came up on the board previously and I took it upon myself to ask a sample of women what they meant by it.

Every one of the 12 who responded were 100% women with kids, and the pics were obvious too.

10 of the 12 said that "accept me for what I am" means that they are a woman with kids and so they are saddled with that responsibility.

Six of them also said they used it because they saw it used by others.

One said she used it because she was single and "old" (she was 36).

I just did a very quick search on pinalove, and in 10 minutes I saw the phrase used in 5 separate profiles by women who also said they had kids, were looking for "serious" and were clearly well-domesticated in their responses. They were also older women (more than 30).

I have my profile set to block lady boys so I don't need to deal with that problem.

One comment in profiles that always makes me laugh is "I love to cook and clean the house".

They are obviously targeting a specific profile of potential male partners.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Forest;2037997]What do you guys think "I am open minded" means? I think these women usually are saying by "open minded" that they will have sex on the first date.[/QUOTE]It means they don't give a fuck where you are from or how you look, as long as you are helping with the bills.

Ok, you've signed up on a dating / hookup site, you've got your profile ready and it's time to start reaching out. Here are the 5 things you need to check off before you get serious about arranging meet ups:

1) Is the person in the photo the person you're chatting to?

There are lots of scammers and catfish happy to waste your time by using other girl's photos. Why they do it isn't important, that you don't waste your time is. To that end, if this person can't verify themselves (on viber, whatsapp, Line or Facebook) after you've shared 10 messages or so, cut them loose. Some girls will rightly be worried about sharing their FB profile, but Viber shouldn't be a problem. If they say they only have Skype, drop them immediately, big red flag.

2) Is the person actually where they say they are?

If you're searching in Manila, you'd be surprised at how many girls will put that in their profile but actually be sat in their province a long way away. This of course means meeting is impractical and continuing to chat really a waste of time. They might ask you to fly them into Manila, but honestly, why the hell would you when Manila is already jam-packed with pretty young things.

3) Is the person in a part of Manila far from where you are?

This might sound a minor point but it's not. If you're in Makati or BGC and you're talking to a girl from Caloocan or Valenzuela, you might think because it's the same city that they can get to where you are quickly and with no hassle. You'd be very wrong about that. I've had girls come from Quezon City to Makati and take 3 hours, and get lost countless times. Make life easy for yourself, pick girls who are no more than an hour away, preferably closer, it'll just save you time whilst you're waiting for them to arrive, and the one thing you'll already do enough of in Manila is wait for girls.

4) Is the girl working a job / shift with hours that are impractical?

This kinda depends on you. If you can only meet girls in the evenings / weekends then why waste effort on girls who are working in contact centres or other jobs where night / evening shift work is required. Again, this entirely relates to how flexible you can be for meet ups.

5) Is the girl going to show up alone?

Usually this will depend on the age of the girl you're chatting with. Generally girls over 25 don't consider coming with a chaperone, but a fair percentage or 19-21 year olds will, whether it be their sister or their friend. Either way, this is an early warning sign that they're not a candidate for jumping straight into bed, unless your ninja skills are finely tuned. But, given the number of girls around this age that will jump straight into bed, why bother with the fussy ones. Chances are they aren't that experienced / skilled anyway.

As you'll probably have intuited, this will cut down significantly on the number of girls who are right to meet, but in Manila this is still a big number. The more selective you can be relative to your needs, the more fun you're going to have and the less time you're going to waste.

Enjoy.

[QUOTE=CallSignPapa;2038065]1) Is the person in the photo the person you're chatting to?
[/QUOTE]Even after you have checked off all those boxes you have to worry about other things you will see once they arrive. My last couple of encounters were less than desirable. For instance the girl that showed up last night looked like a grenade went off in her mouth (with breath to match) and her feet looked like they had not been washed in 3 weeks. I had prenegotiated for LT at 1500 pesos. After one pop I sent her home. Think I will stick to live encounters for a while.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2038099]Even after you have checked off all those boxes you have to worry about other things you will see once they arrive.[/QUOTE]Yeah with girls you're meeting from online sources, assume they're going to be 30% less hot than their photos, Pinays are crafty at finding the right angle to make them look slimmer / prettier than they really are. And if a girl has 15 photos all with her mouth shut, she's either got braces or a mouth like a medieval witch.

I'd say one in every 4 girls arrives looking as good or better than her photos, but if they they usually always have some weird foible (wonky feet, hairy nipples etc), but then, I"m really no oil painting.

[QUOTE=CallSignPapa;2038065]
As you'll probably have intuited, this will cut down significantly on the number of girls who are right to meet, but in Manila this is still a big number. The more selective you can be relative to your needs, the more fun you're going to have and the less time you're going to waste.
Enjoy.[/QUOTE]Great summary! Any inoffensive guy and lots of offensive ones who just follow these rules and send out enough invitations to meet for (fill in the blank whatever floats your boat) in Metro Manila can't fail. Stay in the comforts of your condo or hotel or by the pool, crank up the laptop, Uber / Grab the ladies inbound and outbound, order food delivery, and waste no precious fun time. Going out is great for its own sake, but not for travelling between prospects.

You make a good point about travel times. I've often stayed in Makati / Mandaluyong because on the map they're central. I'm starting to think that Taguig / Pasig may be better overall because the traffic is a bit lighter further out offsetting the distance from some parts. Some mathematician at Google maps reading this can better advise.

[QUOTE=Forest;2037997]I agree with Red Kilt on "accept me for what I am".

Simple, the ladies tell me is simply the opposite of complicated. That is to say, they aren't into making problems.

What do you guys think "I am open minded" means? I think these women usually are saying by "open minded" that they will have sex on the first date.

Of course, 90+% of the DIA girls have sex on the first date, LOL.[/QUOTE]"Open minded" means "open legged. " LOL.

[QUOTE=RadicalGuy;2038285]"Open minded" means "open legged. " LOL.[/QUOTE]That's what I was thinking, LOL. Possibly also "open to offers". Open 24/7 , that's for sure.

[QUOTE=CallSignPapa;2038123]Yeah with girls you're meeting from online sources, assume they're going to be 30% less hot than their photos, Pinays are crafty at finding the right angle to make them look slimmer / prettier than they really are. And if a girl has 15 photos all with her mouth shut, she's either got braces or a mouth like a medieval witch.

I'd say one in every 4 girls arrives looking as good or better than her photos, but if they they usually always have some weird foible (wonky feet, hairy nipples etc), but then, I"m really no oil painting.[/QUOTE]I would also worry if you see a girl who only takes pics from a higher position than her head. I've found (3 times now) that this means she is consciously hiding her fat / chubbiness. I'm starting to see a line in chat sites " chubby is the new sexy ". Hmm chubby is because of lack of self discipline and undisciplined rice consumption and chubby is NEVER EVER sexy honey.

I met a girl on last trip who had shared many pics with me, and in them her mouth was always tightly shut. ID seen her singing in a few videos she had sent me so I knew she had teeth but couldn't understand why her mouth was so tightly shut. Met her at Greenbelt 3, and saw her walking towards me, nice and slim, black dress, gold high heels and I'm waiting for the mouth open moment to be a disaster. It wasnt. She had a perfect set of teeth and she was gorgeous. And we romped happily and she never stopped smiling. She said she kept her mouth closed as that made her pics more " fashionable ".

[QUOTE=CallSignPapa;2038123]Yeah with girls you're meeting from online sources, assume they're going to be 30% less hot than their photos, Pinays are crafty at finding the right angle to make them look slimmer / prettier than they really are. And if a girl has 15 photos all with her mouth shut, she's either got braces or a mouth like a medieval witch.

I'd say one in every 4 girls arrives looking as good or better than her photos, but if they they usually always have some weird foible (wonky feet, hairy nipples etc), but then, I"m really no oil painting.[/QUOTE]The video chat due diligence sorts out most of those issues.

Edit: I see you made another post w/ your 5 rules that mentions using video.

[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2037247]And always use a fake name (I use my real but common first name and a fake last name), date of birth etc (I use my best friend from high school days birthday, it is only 12 days different than mine so age is always correct except for 12 days a year.).

It can be a bit of a pain but considering what you have to lose, especially those with SOs, it is actually low-cost insurance.

Never make it easy for the girl to find out anything about the real you or be able to locate you later.[/QUOTE]This one is the tricky one. You're registered at a hotel / condo under your real name. Once the girl has your room number she may ask questions at the front desk. Another thing to remember is luggage tags with your name, so remember to remove those. Also prescription medicine bottles with your name printed on the label.

[QUOTE=Hutsori;2038864]Also prescription medicine bottles with your name printed on the label.[/QUOTE]Not just luggage labels, also the little stickers they put on your baggage at checkin will have your surname on, plus any receipts will also have your name on if you use a credit / debit card.

If being anonymous is really important consider renting a condo on Airbnb, that way your privacy is guaranteed.