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[QUOTE=BrainDrain;2040416]Or just register with your fake ID.[/QUOTE]This decision can lead the monger down a rabbit hole that he did not imagine before setting off on a sex tourism trip. Security precautions for personal safety is one thing, falsification of identification with the intent to fraudulently obtain sexual favors from women not involved in the sex trade is another.

Under Philippines Revised Penal Code Title 4: Crimes Against Public Interest: Article 172 punishes the falsification and / or the use of falsified documents by a private individual; Article 175 punishes the manufacturing and possession of instruments or implements for falsification, and prohibits the introduction of such implements into the Philippines; Article 178 punishes the use of a fictitious name and concealing true name; and Article 338 punishes seduction committed by means of deceit, including obtaining sexual consent by fraudulent machination which is considered a word which rhymes with ape under Philippine law.

It probably would not go too well for the monger if he were to find himself in a situation involving the police and it is discovered that he used fraudulent identification to register at a hotel and fuck several local young women. In fact, it would be a Filipino prosecutor's wet dream in the current political climate. The unlucky monger would be facing a number of charges and the use of falsified identification would suggest the motive of his travel was criminal, placing the burden of proving otherwise on the defendant. There is no good reason to risk all of these potential complications. The odds of getting caught are probably low but the consequences are high enough to make doing it foolish because it is totally unnecessary. Nobody cares what the odds were when they finally get caught. There are a lot of guys who thought the odds of them getting banged up in the Philippines were very low but they were wrong, and some of them were detained with fraudulent identification in the possession which probably contributed to them being considered a flight risk.

Anyway, if anyone has doubts about this, just go ask a Filipino lawyer. You can run your scheme by a local attorney for the cost of a few lady drinks, and save yourself some major pain in the ass.

[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2041003]This decision can lead the monger down a rabbit hole that he did not imagine before setting off on a sex tourism trip. .................................................[/QUOTE]Good sound advice. Important, because a lot of ISG readers are newbies, and we don't want to mislead them into thinking they can flaunt the laws of the host country, Philippines in this case.

[QUOTE=CallSignPapa;2040940]Crossing the street is illegal in most countries if you do it wrong, I think BD's point was that it isn't likely to result in your being arrested, deported or banned from entering into the Phil again.[/QUOTE]It seems that I was quite wrong in my assertion about using fake ID and the laws look terribad. Will they ever be enforced or be the sole purpose for a person to be expelled? There are far greater problems that the agencies put their attention to.

[QUOTE=BrainDrain;2041213]It seems that I was quite wrong in my assertion about using fake ID and the laws look terribad. Will they ever be enforced or be the sole purpose for a person to be expelled? There are far greater problems that the agencies put their attention to.[/QUOTE]You can probably do it for a lifetime without getting caught but when shit hits the fan and some authority finds out I bet they try collect all the shit they can to lock you up as long as possible aka squeeze you for cash / bribe money.

I give girls a fake name but I don't carry any false ID. But if a girl really wants to find my true ID she could get it down at the reception. The point is to avoid this to happen. Acting nice helps.

[QUOTE=BrainDrain;2041213]It seems that I was quite wrong in my assertion about using fake ID and the laws look terribad. Will they ever be enforced or be the sole purpose for a person to be expelled? There are far greater problems that the agencies put their attention to.[/QUOTE]The country plagued with lots of problems. However, like another board member suggested, the political climate makes this type of activities of foreigners very attractive to prosecutors.

As of right now, it has been 2+ months, I have been traveling the country with a motorcycle and I saw lots of stuff and I eye witnessed lots of situations. I recommend to stay in the right side of the law.

Whilst I respect Chocha Monger's opinion and experience, I think the situation would have to go seriously sideways before a fake ID resulted in Police action. If you're selective about who you take back to your place you'll be fine. I've done this multiple times and never had a hint of trouble. However, mostly I'm a condo guy these days, hotels are just too easy to be noticed.

[QUOTE=CallSignPapa;2041865]I think the situation would have to go seriously sideways before a fake ID resulted in Police action. If you're selective about who you take back to your place you'll be fine.[/QUOTE]But if you were that selective there would be no need for a fake ID!

To LE a person with fake ID is usually hiding from the law and or up to fraudulent unlawful activities. They will assume the worst and it may take some time and money before they accept your reasoning of defrauding pinays of their pussies and running away.

In all home countries it is a felony to use a fake ID. What makes someone think they can do that in the Philippines with disregard for the laws?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2041916]But if you were that selective there would be no need for a fake ID![/QUOTE]I have no desire to bang only P4 P girls in Manila, the selection of hot girls found in clubs is way too appealing to pass up. You act like you're not familiar with sneaky, curious pinays, in my case I have no interest in them looking up my real name on Facebook to see pictures of my and my kids (and other half).

If you're saying I should only bang girls in Manila who know my true relationship status, I say respectfully, no fucking chance.

[QUOTE=VernierCaliper;2041560]You can probably do it for a lifetime without getting caught but when shit hits the fan and some authority finds out I bet they try collect all the shit they can to lock you up as long as possible aka squeeze you for cash / bribe money.

I give girls a fake name but I don't carry any false ID. But if a girl really wants to find my true ID she could get it down at the reception. The point is to avoid this to happen. Acting nice helps.[/QUOTE]That is true. People often do things for a lifetime and get away with it until one day their luck runs out. Most convicts in jail did not think they would be caught. If they knew without a doubt that they would have been caught, chances are that they would not have done the crime. They took a calculated risk that they could circumvent the law to reap benefits believing the odds were in their favor, they gambled with their freedom and lost. One of these guys actually had a pocket full of money when he got caught stealing. It just puzzled me, so I asked him why he did it. He told me that although he had more than enough money on him to purchase the items, he just wanted to see if he could get away with stealing them. Sometimes, people just get a thrill out of breaking the law because taking risks makes their dick hard.

Regardless of all the available information on the forum and elsewhere, some guys are just going to scratch that itch knowing the hellish conditions in Flip jails and glacial pace of the judicial system. In fact, there is a guy in Cebu who ignored many warnings because he was convinced that the laws were not going to be enforced. Well, he has been locked up for years now without a trial. When a foreigner is involved expect every law to be enforced. The police, prosecutors, and politicians know that locking up foreigners for breaking the law is good press and great money. Notice that every detail of the items found in the foreigner's possession at the time of an arrest or raid is published in the local newspapers to present the worst possible image. Fraudulent documents and fictitious identities will definitely make authorities hold on to a suspect if only to dig a little deeper to find out what exactly he is hiding, and to check for international warrants to see if there is a reward for his capture. The corrupt authorities are going to start thinking if the guy went through the trouble of obtaining and using fraudulent identification, then he must be someone willing to pay a lot of money for his freedom and discretion. They will extort every penny he has once they get hold of his passport and do a bit of digging on his true identity to see just how much he has to lose.

Just reading on the recent discussion, I am wondering.

1 Is it not safe to bring non working girls back to hotel? In particular Metro Manila? I am asking this as a general opinion not specific case incident.

2 What are fellows experience here with Tinder? I have matched many (in fact too many). Some are out right P4P but most would not say especially I have not discuss meeting up with them yet. I hear people had good experience with PinaLove but I just hate that app ransom user into paying for useless features. Paid feature in Tinder seem to be more practical. So what's the take with you ISGs?

P.S. I asked before but no one seems to know, anyone can tell me if Hotel 101 is girls friendly? Really appreciate some comment.

[QUOTE=CygnushYoga123;2042597]Just reading on the recent discussion, I am wondering.

1 Is it not safe to bring non working girls back to hotel? In particular Metro Manila? I am asking this as a general opinion not specific case incident.

2 What are fellows experience here with Tinder? I have matched many (in fact too many). Some are out right P4P but most would not say especially I have not discuss meeting up with them yet. I hear people had good experience with PinaLove but I just hate that app ransom user into paying for useless features. Paid feature in Tinder seem to be more practical. So what's the take with you ISGs?

P.S. I asked before but no one seems to know, anyone can tell me if Hotel 101 is girls friendly? Really appreciate some comment.[/QUOTE]1. Generally safe.

2. No experience in this. Waste of time for me when there are proven market places.

3. Call or email Hotel 101 with your question. As stated numerous times before generally 92.873% of hotels are GF.

[QUOTE=CygnushYoga123;2042597]I hear people had good experience with PinaLove but I just hate that app ransom user into paying for useless features.[/QUOTE]My take as an relatively heavy user of Pinalove is that its features as a premium member comes in handy for a few reasons. The most important features would in random order be: you will be on top of girls search lists, you can switch to hide mode while you are actually online (handy when searching for other girls while lying and saying you are exclusivly into one but want to line up a 15 or 20 girls or so). Your msg to girls will be on top on their receives msgs list (many girls receive hundreds of msgs and will mostly only read a few of them so being on top never hurts). You can send multiple msgs without any 5-10 min penalty before you write a new msg (I use copy paste method and send out to many girls at once, easy prey), paying premium membership also indicate you are not a cheap charlie and girls with some money incentives would be concerned greatly regarding this. Just a few heads up.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;2042739]proven market places.[/QUOTE]Some direction please. Either a reply here or PM. I only know of Green Belt and LA Café.

Very much appreciated!

I have never tried Tinder or some dating websites at all. But I have just registered at [URL]http://www.cupid.com[/URL] Maybe I will have some luck there. But honestly, I would like to meet a good girl for some serious relationships in the future. Do you think it is possible online?