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Not sure about the last sentence.
Strip clubs and lap dances are quite legal, but still cost $30 a song or 3 for $60 at some of the good clubs. Each song being approx 4 min. Not exactly cheap. And minimal touching, no sex.
Also, brothels are legal in Nevada except Vegas, and prices are not cheap (relative to German FKK) and girls nowhere as pretty or young.
Clearly paid sex is illegal in most of the US, but we don't hear about cops raiding street hookers to high end escorts that aggressively. Cop attention is more focused on drugs, gangs, etc etc.
I think what helps EU and especially Germany is being part of the EU and the continuous access to eastern Eu girls. US has borders with Canada another rich country, and Mexico, which is technically a closed border.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1846422]I'm not a specialist for table dance, but there's table dance bars in Germany as well. Private dance at Pure Platinum in FFM is 35 EUR. Same rules as in NA, not touching, no sex.
PaySex in the US would be a lot cheaper if it were legal.
HB.[/QUOTE]
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That is high up on Trump's priority list right after building the Mexican wall paid for by the Mexicans, and making sure Apple build all iPhones in the US.
[QUOTE=SoloTraveler;1846447]Since the 2016 presidential election is around the corner, can anyone suggest the two parties to legalize prostitution in the US?
LOL.[/QUOTE]
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Lapdance is 40€ here as well. But don't worry, prostitution will never become legal in the states.
HB.
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If paysex were legalized in USA, prices would definitely come down. Maybe not to 50 EUR per half-hour levels, but I'd imagine close to that.
First, I think more freelancers and part-timers would flood the market. I'd assume there are girls that are tempted to hook, but choose not to because they fear the black mark of having a criminal record.
Two, the current rates are probably inflated due the fact that WGs must bake "risks" into their hourly rate. Legal fees, bail, security (because obviously WGs can't go to the cops if some john decides to rob her).
Three, while the US doesn't share an open border with a poor country, there are significant income disparities between the richest and poorest regions. Average income is $68 K in DC, $28 K in Mississippi. Average wage in RO is about a third of average wage in DE.
Four, we may not be making an apples-to-apples comparison here, because America does not have a FKK-equivalent. Therefore we should probably make a comparison between apartments or escort agency girls, where in DE, the prices probably start at 150-200 EUR per hour. One GT girl that goes through an agency is 400 EUR per hour.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1846494]
Not sure when you were last in Vancouver but I was there in December and the line up at No. 5 Orange was surprisingly good. At least 10 I would session with if they were in a FKK. Of course you still can't get a dance there since it's a rip off. Granville Strip had a couple of very nice girls as well but too few girls. I thought dances were $40 a song?[/QUOTE]I went to No. 5 Orange in early December. Here's the thing that got me. The STAGE girls were hot, and would be sessionable in an FKK. The girls actually available for a dance, not so much. I never once saw a girl that went onstage come around and offer dances. And I never once saw a girl offering dances get on stage.
My clearly somewhat drunk posting was from Brandi's Exotic. Same sort of deal. Different girls onstage vs offering lapdances. At Brandi's and last trip to Orange, the dances are $50 CDN per song.
Main theme from the post was that in 'sex jail' a lapdance for 3 mins with a somewhat attractive not quite naked girl is almost the equivalent cost of 30 mins with BBBJ and FS with a hottie at an FKK.
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[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1847087]Also, brothels are legal in Nevada except Vegas, and prices are not cheap (relative to German FKK) and girls nowhere as pretty or young.
Clearly paid sex is illegal in most of the US, but we don't hear about cops raiding street hookers to high end escorts that aggressively. Cop attention is more focused on drugs, gangs, etc etc.[/QUOTE]Nevada law is a bit odd actually. Counties with a population of under 700,000 can have brothels if they choose too. Right now about half the counties have legal brothels.
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Messe in Frankfurt on next week end, so maybe more business for girls, because very quiet last weeks. Oase may be quite crowded on evening, maybe Sharks also. Maybe new girls at Mainhattan like for each messe.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;1848682] Maybe new girls at Mainhattan like for each messe.[/QUOTE]Usually new girls for Messe time you can forget at all Frankfurt clubs. They aren't fresh from the bus most of them only fast and easy money maker. Good girls don't change the club for Messe.
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Pool or jacuzzi action
Sometimes at World, some girls get. Also at Sharks and in outside swimming pool on summer.
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NRW FKK first timer
Looking a for a bit of advice on which FKK's to visit on a three day trip. This is my first trip to see FKK's. I'll be in Dusseldorf, but I'll have a car, so driving is not an issue though I would prefer to keep trips under 90 min.
Here's what I would like to see while I'm there.
One night club style club with a good party.
A club for a nice long day of relaxing with good food, a sauna, and a massage.
A massive club. (I just want to see this on a large scale).
Of course if there is a way to combine those wishes into one club even better.
Talent level doesn't have to be top notch, coming from the USA quite honestly I'll be thrilled with good looking girls with fit bodies but avoiding annoying upselling and grumpy service is obviously a plus.
TIA.
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Will the state elections in German which have seen losses for Merkel and also The Socialists and Gains for anti-immigration parties have any effect on the proposed new laws wrt our hobby?
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A quick update on those State Elections, The Greens seem to have done well so may still be in position to stop the insanity!
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Vacation advice?
Hi,
Just looking for a little advice. I plan on visiting sometime this fall. Does anyone know a hotel that's within walking distance of three or four FKK? I'm going to spend a week in town and would like to keep things simple, as in not needing transportation.
My entire plan is just a week of sex. I'm planning to visit two or three flat rate brothels. My plan is just to hang out with a lot of naked girls and screw a couple, because that doesn't happen stateside.
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[QUOTE=Bahramthered;1851820]Hi,
Just looking for a little advice. I plan on visiting sometime this fall. Does anyone know a hotel that's within walking distance of three or four FKK? I'm going to spend a week in town and would like to keep things simple, as in not needing transportation.
My entire plan is just a week of sex. I'm planning to visit two or three flat rate brothels. My plan is just to hang out with a lot of naked girls and screw a couple, because that doesn't happen stateside.[/QUOTE]Hotel Contel, 5 mn walking to Sharks in Darmstadt. You can leave Sharks and return later on same day. Train to Frankfurt for Mainhattan with happy hours before 1 pm.
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[QUOTE=TorrentChief;1851022]Looking a for a bit of advice on which FKK's to visit on a three day trip. This is my first trip to see FKK's. I'll be in Dusseldorf, but I'll have a car, so driving is not an issue though I would prefer to keep trips under 90 min.
Here's what I would like to see while I'm there.
One night club style club with a good party.
A club for a nice long day of relaxing with good food, a sauna, and a massage.
A massive club. (I just want to see this on a large scale).
Of course if there is a way to combine those wishes into one club even better.
Talent level doesn't have to be top notch, coming from the USA quite honestly I'll be thrilled with good looking girls with fit bodies but avoiding annoying upselling and grumpy service is obviously a plus.
TIA.[/QUOTE]For Romanian beauties, Acapulco.
For afternoon and early evening, if not dark skin, GT. For night, LR, if on same day, ask for discount when you leave GT, to pay only 35 at LR.