Hong Kong Club Reports

[QUOTE=Aviator400;2279517]Unlikely you have hepatitis; symptoms don't entirely line up, unless you are showing signs of jaundice. Hepatitis manifests over a long period of time. Sounds like your symptoms came on suddenly. Also, just because your food was properly cooked, it could have picked up from poor food handling or something that was on the container it was served in.

FYI, there are vaccinations to prevent hepatitis. Few doctors recommend them for some reason. Maybe they don't know or don't see you as a high risk for hepatitis exposure. And some of the hepatitis vaccinations are given over the course of six months or a year. Being a big believer in vaccinations and having a doctor who specializes in immunology, I have gone the course. And unless she is in the very early stages, thcere would be obvious signs if the girl has hepatitis, such as jaundice, irritated skin, nausea, fluid retention, and exhaustion.

Hope you feel better soon Captain my Captain.[/QUOTE]I agree with Aviator. Hepatitis is contracted from stool to mouth. I contracted it years ago. Therefore, chances of getting it via saliva are practically nill. It does take time to contract and believe me, you will know when you have it as Aviator indicates as your eyes will be jaundiced (very yellow in color). Plus you will have a nasty white film all over your tongue and your liver will be painful. I had a girlfriend that worked at HK years ago and got a very serious stomach illness of which her doctor told her most likely from eating from the street cart vendors. He admonished her to never eat at these carts due to the unsanitary conditions from pots not being cleaned properly, food being touched with dirty hands, cleaning towels with salmonella, etc.

I was unable to work for 2 months when I had hepatitis. Couldn't drink for a year. Had a wine cooler at about 10 months and had to go to the hospital due to damage done to my liver from the alcohol.

I was at HK Friday evening and while I already took up a girl from a different place, I decided to just sit and have a chat with someone I saw this past Wednesday. My friends were busy upstairs so I just bought her a drink and asked a few questions. I asked her if she had a quota she had to meet in regards to how many drinks she has to "sell". And this is what she told me.

There are different types of girls that work at HK. Girls on contract, girls with contracts that do nude shows on stage, and girls that are come and go (those that live elsewhere and work once a week every few months). The girl I sat down with she was a "bailar-ina" which means she *HAS* to do nude shows maybe once or twice a night on stage and she also has a contract. Being a "bailar-ina" entitles her to an extra $100 a week paid to them by HK, but since she is also on contract that means she *MUST* work 5 days a week 8 hours a day, non negotiable. And on top of that, she must sell 200 fichas a week. If she doesn't sell 200 fichas a week, she has to pay the bar for unsold fichas or something like that. Or she won't get the full 34 pesos she collected.

I don't know how true this is but it falls in line with what SG says about not wanting to work at HK. SG usually say they don't want the time commitments of working at HK. This is the first time I've heard of contracts and a quota. My other regulars are come and go so they don't have contracts so they don't have quotas for fichas. And they don't have to work 40 hours a week.

So take this information with a grain of salt. That's just what I heard. And it makes sense.

[QUOTE=StRobert;2279183]I am sorry for your problems with the stomach it looks like food poisoning. I do not eat anything on the street in Zona. [/QUOTE]Same. Street carts should be avoided, especially the meets that sit unrefrigerated and exposed for hours and days. Might be OK for locals, but not for my gringo stomach. I prefer to spend a few extra pesos eating in restaurants, versus risking diarrhea and food poisoning.

I check the restaurant for a bathroom with running water and soap. If the cook can't wash his hands and you can't wash yours, expect Montezuma to take his revenge upon you sooner or later. A couple of days in bed with fever, headache, vomiting and diarrhea is no fun. Something to think about when you are deciding whether to eat at a street cart or in a restaurant with running water.

[QUOTE=Ctytek;2279576]Same. Street carts should be avoided, especially the meets that sit unrefrigerated and exposed for hours and days. Might be OK for locals, but not for my gringo stomach. I prefer to spend a few extra pesos eating in restaurants, versus risking diarrhea and food poisoning.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SpikeBites1;2279558]I was at HK Friday evening and while I already took up a girl from a different place, I decided to just sit and have a chat with someone I saw this past Wednesday. My friends were busy upstairs so I just bought her a drink and asked a few questions. I asked her if she had a quota she had to meet in regards to how many drinks she has to "sell". And this is what she told me.

There are different types of girls that work at HK. Girls on contract, girls with contracts that do nude shows on stage, and girls that are come and go (those that live elsewhere and work once a week every few months). The girl I sat down with she was a "bailar-ina" which means she *HAS* to do nude shows maybe once or twice a night on stage and she also has a contract. Being a "bailar-ina" entitles her to an extra $100 a week paid to them by HK, but since she is also on contract that means she *MUST* work 5 days a week 8 hours a day, non negotiable. And on top of that, she must sell 200 fichas a week. If she doesn't sell 200 fichas a week, she has to pay the bar for unsold fichas or something like that. Or she won't get the full 34 pesos she collected..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ClamSlammer;2274730]There are a handful of exceptions but for the most part HK chicas are not paid any type of salary. They are not employees of HK. They are independent contractors. Anybody who posts any differently is just utterly clueless. Again, HK does not pay any type of sueldo to the chicas. Tb I'm not sure so I can't say anything. Cc chicas get $500/ day. Ab chicas get $300/ day, $500 if they stage dance. HK chicas get nothing. In HK chicas get commission from fichas and privados, various tips and arriba money. HK management absolutely does not pay any type of wage to chicas. This is a fact that I'm 100% sure of.[/QUOTE]As you can see from the two posts above, it is near impossible to be sure what the truth is. Using information posted here is confusing and oftentimes wrong.

Even laughable when you consider the sources: manipulating chicas!

It is easy to do a little poking at either poster's assertions. I don't believe for one moment that Clamslammer is correct about Adelitas' chicas being paid $300 a day. That makes no economic sense to me.

And I think SpikeBites' chica was growing her nose like pinocchio as she was asserting that HK had a 40-ficha per shift quota. That's a crazy-high number as a minimum quota.

[QUOTE=SpikeBites1;2279558]I was at HK Friday evening and while I already took up a girl from a different place, I decided to just sit and have a chat with someone I saw this past Wednesday. My friends were busy upstairs so I just bought her a drink and asked a few questions. I asked her if she had a quota she had to meet in regards to how many drinks she has to "sell". And this is what she told me.

There are different types of girls that work at HK. Girls on contract, girls with contracts that do nude shows on stage, and girls that are come and go (those that live elsewhere and work once a week every few months). The girl I sat down with she was a "bailar-ina" which means she *HAS* to do nude shows maybe once or twice a night on stage and she also has a contract. Being a "bailar-ina" entitles her to an extra $100 a week paid to them by HK, but since she is also on contract that means she *MUST* work 5 days a week 8 hours a day, non negotiable. And on top of that, she must sell 200 fichas a week. If she doesn't sell 200 fichas a week, she has to pay the bar for unsold fichas or something like that. Or she won't get the full 34 pesos she collected.

I don't know how true this is but it falls in line with what SG says about not wanting to work at HK. SG usually say they don't want the time commitments of working at HK. This is the first time I've heard of contracts and a quota. My other regulars are come and go so they don't have contracts so they don't have quotas for fichas. And they don't have to work 40 hours a week.

So take this information with a grain of salt. That's just what I heard. And it makes sense.[/QUOTE]The above is almost completely false. The only chicas under contract at HK are the ones recruited from other parts of Mexico. HK pays for their flights to and from Tijuana. I'm not there is absolutely no ficha quota at HK!

[QUOTE=SpikeBites1;2279558]I was at HK Friday evening and while I already took up a girl from a different place, I decided to just sit and have a chat with someone I saw this past Wednesday. My friends were busy upstairs so I just bought her a drink and asked a few questions. I asked her if she had a quota she had to meet in regards to how many drinks she has to "sell". And this is what she told me.

There are different types of girls that work at HK. Girls on contract, girls with contracts that do nude shows on stage, and girls that are come and go (those that live elsewhere and work once a week every few months). The girl I sat down with she was a "bailar-ina" which means she *HAS* to do nude shows maybe once or twice a night on stage and she also has a contract. Being a "bailar-ina" entitles her to an extra $100 a week paid to them by HK, but since she is also on contract that means she *MUST* work 5 days a week 8 hours a day, non negotiable. And on top of that, she must sell 200 fichas a week. If she doesn't sell 200 fichas a week, she has to pay the bar for unsold fichas or something like that. Or she won't get the full 34 pesos she collected..[/QUOTE]The above is almost completely FALSE! The only chicas under contract at HK are the ones recruited from other parts of Mexico. HK pays for the flights to / from Tijuana. I'm not 100% certain regarding the details but the chicas must work something like two weeks, 6 days a week in order for HK to pay for the flights back to their hometowns. The other chicas are not under any sort of contract. Being a bailarina means absolutely nothing. There is no "bailarina" status. Chicas volunteer to dance on stage for tips. They do NOT get paid any money by HK. You can tell that the OP's claim of an additional $100/ wk paid to them a week is false. That's because HK payouts, like fichas, are in pesos, not USD. And you know that $100 pesos a week makes no sense. The only chicas that are paid by HK are the ones that do special shows on the main stage. I'm not sure if the regular foam show girls get paid or not so I'll withhold comment.

And every chica must work 5 days a week, 8 hour weekdays and 9 hour weekends. Otherwise they get fined when they return to work. There are some exceptions of course for chicas that are favored by management (Adrian AKA Coco, Augustine and the other guy who tries to trick all the new recruits into fucking him whose name slips me right now.) And what's laughable is that the OP claims that there are "girls that are come and go (those that live elsewhere and work once a week every few months). " So a girl flies to Tijuana from Chiapas, and only works one day a week? If a girl is coming to Tijuana to work and make money, she is going to work more than one day a week.

And there is absolutely no ficha quota at HK! 200 fichas a week? LOL! That's 40 drinks a day during a 5 day week. You really think some of the fatter, uglier putas are being bought 40 fichas a day? They'd be lucky to get 5. 40 fichas per day is 5 fichas / hour or a ficha every 12 minutes for their entire SHIFT! In other words, if this 200 ficha / week bullshit was true, you'd NEVER seen a chica without a ficha in front of her. There would be no such thing as a chica sitting around looking bored on their phone. And no chicas standing at the rail. They would all be sitting with mongers constantly drinking fichas with zero downtime. Not to mention the ones that dance on the stage, they dance 3 song sets, so that's 15 minutes wasted, 45 minutes to an hour per shift that they are dancing and not drinking fichas. And also, think about it. Chicas can cash out their fichas at the end of their shift. If there was a ficha quota, management would not let them cash out daily. Because if they did, and later in the week if it was found that the quota was not met, then the puta would owe. And you really think these management has confidence in these drunk, drug-addicted putas to pay later? HELL NO!

[QUOTE=RikyMichaels7;2279546]I agree with Aviator. Hepatitis is contracted from stool to mouth. I contracted it years ago. Therefore, cuihances of getting it via saliva are practically nill. It does take time to contract and believe me, you will know when you have it as Aviator indicates as your eyes will be jaundiced (very yellow in color). Plus you will have a nasty white film all over your tongue and your liver will be painful. I had a girlfriend that worked at HK years ago and got a very serious stomach illness of which her doctor told her most likely from eating from the street cart vendors. He admonished her to never eat at these carts due to the unsanitary conditions from pots not being cleaned properly, food being touched with dirty hands, cleaning towels with salmonella, etc.

I was unable to work for 2 months when I had hepatitis. Couldn't drink for a year. Had a wine cooler at about 10 months and had to go to the hospital due to damage done to my liver from the alcohol.[/QUOTE]Most violent food poison of the several I've had, from a new, modern taqueria. Dr said it was likely the condiments that sit on the table at length gathering germs, even parasites, and mingling with customers. Almost missed my flight.

[QUOTE=SpikeBites1;2279558]I was at HK Friday evening and while I already took up a girl from a different place, I decided to just sit and have a chat with someone I saw this past Wednesday. My friends were busy upstairs so I just bought her a drink and asked a few questions. I asked her if she had a quota she had to meet in regards to how many drinks she has to "sell". And this is what she told me.

There are different types of girls that work at HK. Girls on contract, girls with contracts that do nude shows on stage, and girls that are come and go (those that live elsewhere and work once a week every few months). The girl I sat down with she was a "bailar-ina" which means she *HAS* to do nude shows maybe once or twice a night on stage and she also has a contract. Being a "bailar-ina" entitles her to an extra $100 a week paid to them by HK, but since she is also on contract that means she *MUST* work 5 days a week 8 hours a day, non negotiable. And on top of that, she must sell 200 fichas a week. If she doesn't sell 200 fichas a week, she has to pay the bar for unsold fichas or something like that. Or she won't get the full 34 pesos she collected..[/QUOTE]We had this conversation 2 or 3 weeks ago and guys went crazy. I will stay out of this fight, but I agree with you, but it is enforced very selectively. These guys can say what they want.

[QUOTE=ClamSlammer;2279708]The above is almost completely FALSE! The only chicas under contract at HK are the ones recruited from other parts of Mexico. HK pays for the flights to / from Tijuana. I'm not 100% certain regarding the details but the chicas must work something like two weeks, 6 days a week in order for HK to pay for the flights back to their hometowns. The other chicas are not under any sort of contract. Being a bailarina means absolutely nothing. There is no "bailarina" status. Chicas volunteer to dance on stage for tips. They do NOT get paid any money by HK. You can tell that the OP's claim of an additional $100/ wk paid to them a week is false. That's because HK payouts, like fichas, are in pesos, not USD. And you know that $100 pesos a week makes no sense. The only chicas that are paid by HK are the ones that do special shows on the main stage. I'm not sure if the regular foam show girls get paid or not so I'll withhold comment.

And every chica must work 5 days a week, 8 hour weekdays and 9 hour weekends. Otherwise they get fined when they return to work. There are some exceptions of course for chicas that are favored by management (Adrian AKA Coco, Augustine and the other guy who tries to trick all the new recruits into fucking him whose name slips me right now.) And what's laughable is that the OP claims that there are "girls that are come and go (those that live elsewhere and work once a week every few months). " So a girl flies to Tijuana from Chiapas, and only works one day a week? If a girl is coming to Tijuana to work and make money, she is going to work more than one day a week.[/QUOTE]You are probably right. I don't know what's true or what's not, I'm sure there's a little bit of truth. For example, I asked another girl I took up last night if they had a ficha quota, and she said 100. And the reason I feel the ones that "come and go", for example I know of one who is from Sonora and flies in for 4 days every 2-3 months, she has no minimum hours and can come and go as she pleases and she has no quota. So she doesn't have to work 8 hour days since she still goes to school.

This other girl from Ensenada sometimes comes into work 2 times a week and on some days only worked 4 hours before she decides to go home. She told me that they did have a quota but it's not enforced if they like you and so she said she management likes her and lets her get by with a pass. And her friend who is also from Ensenada also only works 2 times a week because she is very busy with school.

There are contract girls working, the ones you see on the nude stages. Those are the ones you see working 8 hour shifts for 5 days a week. Girls like Yselle for example is always there dancing on stage pretty much Sunday-Thurs. The ones that don't dance on stage are hit or miss, they may or may not be there the next time you visit.

But again, I'm just a new monger in Tijuana and just relaying what I've learned. This might all be BS but in the end, none of this affects us in any way so it's not like I am going to be buying more fichas to help a girl meet her quota. I'm cheap as fuck and only want to go arriba. HAHA.

Is back in Hong Kong. Saw her again last night, took her up. Love her, her English is near perfect and she's the one always wearing cat ears. She just got back from vacation so she'll be working 5 days a week 8 hour shifts since she is a "bailar-ina", meaning she does nude shows on stage. She's very fun, would recommend.

If you hang around HK a while and get to know a few chicas on friendly terms, you will find out most what they tell you are ridiculous lies, stupid bullshit, fake sob stories, all aimed at picking your pockets.

For their fake sob stories, spiky starfish posture, fake love and fake orgasms, they deserved fake money!

[QUOTE=ClamSlammer;2279708]The above is almost completely FALSE! The only chicas under contract at HK are the ones recruited from other parts of Mexico. HK pays for the flights to / from Tijuana. I'm not 100% certain regarding the details but the chicas must work something like two weeks, 6 days a week in order for HK to pay for the flights back to their hometowns. The other chicas are not under any sort of contract. Being a bailarina means absolutely nothing. There is no "bailarina" status. Chicas volunteer to dance on stage for tips. They do NOT get paid any money by HK. You can tell that the OP's claim of an additional $100/ wk paid to them a week is false. That's because HK payouts, like fichas, are in pesos, not USD. And you know that $100 pesos a week makes no sense. The only chicas that are paid by HK are the ones that do special shows on the main stage. I'm not sure if the regular foam show girls get paid or not so I'll withhold comment.

And every chica must work 5 days a week, 8 hour weekdays and 9 hour weekends. Otherwise they get fined when they return to work. There are some exceptions of course for chicas that are favored by management (Adrian AKA Coco, Augustine and the other guy who tries to trick all the new recruits into fucking him whose name slips me right now.) And what's laughable is that the OP claims that there are "girls that are come and go (those that live elsewhere and work once a week every few months). " So a girl flies to Tijuana from Chiapas, and only works one day a week? If a girl is coming to Tijuana to work and make money, she is going to work more than one day a week.[/QUOTE]My old girlfriend from Tropical (same dueno as HK) had 2 choices for work. They would pay round trip flight for her to go home to Sinaloa once a month but she had to sign a contract to work 6 days a week indefinitely. Other option was to work when she pleased. No 5 day a week requirement. She sold the hell out of fichas so they were just happy when she showed up.

LOL. We spend a lot of time arguing about what the ficha rules are in a country where everyone bends them at will. Whether there are quotas or not is irrelevant. No one would follow them anyways.

[QUOTE=ScatManDoo;2279653]I don't believe for one moment that Clamslammer is correct about Adelitas' chicas being paid $300 a day. That makes no economic sense to me.[/QUOTE]I think you might have thought that $300 amount was in dollars. It is not. They get paid $300 pesos daily. Considering that the bar makes roughly $100 pesos profit on a ficha beer, it is within the bounds of reason.