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What are people on this thread referring to when they say "DJ cafes"?

Thanks in advance for answering.

I was literally pondering today how Vietnam could make "Vietnam sucks" into a tourist slogan. In the commercial can show how it actually is outside on roads in Saigon and things such as the bed in the waaaay overpriced hotel room being only a box spring with no actual mattress and maybe show the dark stains on some of the linens. And then finish the commercial with the top of a woman's head doing a BJ. "Vietnam sucks!

[QUOTE=JustAwny;2784960]Despite warnings that Vietnam sucks, I went during December 2022. Here's my review:

Hotel: District 1 (D1) is close to everything. I stayed at the Saigon AE&M hotel & spa in District 1 for a week (1. 5 M dong / night in Dec 2022). All A&them hotels allow guests (Verified! But beware of the A&them Petite hotel because it's a disgusting, bed bug filled, rat hole. Hotel photos are photoshopped (like the girls). I heard the Intercontinental, Renassaince, or LE Meridien hotels are guest friendly too.

Dating: I'm a young-looking, athletic guy, full hair, 5'10", low body fat, and I approached several of the beautiful white skinned thin girls at Bui Ven, Ho Thi Ky street food (cool place), Vincom Mall, Saigon Mall, War Rememberance Museum, etc, but not one of them will give me the time of day. Most girls speak perfect english, but pretend not to. Sitting in cafe for hours is the most popular activity, but don't expect any mingling; when I quietly approached a group of girls at a table, they just stared at me with the most deadpan faces. Most girls I approached just gave me a 1 word answer and walked away. I tried Tinder, Vietnam Cupid, Date in Asia, Tantan, FB dating, Seeking Arrangements and couldn't get a date. My only matches were bar girls beconing me to come to Japan town to buy drinks.

Girls: Vietnamese girls are probably the prettiest in SEA. Very thin, white skin, few tattoos, short skirts and heels. This makes things here even more frustrating..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SexGod;2788208]What are people on this thread referring to when they say "DJ cafes"?[/QUOTE]A bar where there is a DJ playing music and a whole ton of girls walking around ready to sit with you for the purchase of a cheap drink. Really inexpensive. There are tons of them most in District 5 or 10 (sorry I don't really know the HCM district borders). I went to about 6 of them. Some are terrible with older bigger girls and some have pretty young girls. There are odd times when it is good and they are different at each cafe but usually dead ie no girls between 3 and 7 (pm. So just go at night to be safer. These girls speak little to no English as DJ Cafes are mainly for locals.

Unique Cafe's Facebook page has lots of videos.

Here's a video of a few of the DJ cafes [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QHXAUvZj2I[/URL].

Any here recommend the best fully nude nuru massage with unlimited orgasms for one total amount where girl continues the nuru and BJ for full duration regardless of already having 1st orgasm?

Thanks in advance!

Having sex with a condom is having sex with a condom and sadly boring. I love great nude nuru massage and BBBJ from a pretty and enthusiastic girl though.

Thanks for clarifying that. Had thought it was something more fun than that sounds.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2788426]A bar where there is a DJ playing music and a whole ton of girls walking around ready to sit with you for the purchase of a cheap drink. Really inexpensive. There are tons of them most in District 5 or 10 (sorry I don't really know the HCM district borders). I went to about 6 of them. Some are terrible with older bigger girls and some have pretty young girls. There are odd times when it is good and they are different at each cafe but usually dead ie no girls between 3 and 7 (pm. So just go at night to be safer. These girls speak little to no English as DJ Cafes are mainly for locals.

Unique Cafe's Facebook page has lots of videos.

Here's a video of a few of the DJ cafes [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QHXAUvZj2I[/URL].[/QUOTE]

This is the huge value of ISG. I was considering going to Vietnam instead than Thailand but now happy to go back on this decision.

Thanks a lot.

[QUOTE=JustAwny;2784960]Despite warnings that Vietnam sucks, I went during December 2022. Here's my review:

Hotel: District 1 (D1) is close to everything. I stayed at the Saigon AE&M hotel & spa in District 1 for a week (1. 5 M dong / night in Dec 2022). All A&them hotels allow guests (Verified! But beware of the A&them Petite hotel because it's a disgusting, bed bug filled, rat hole. Hotel photos are photoshopped (like the girls). I heard the Intercontinental, Renassaince, or LE Meridien hotels are guest friendly too.

Dating: I'm a young-looking, athletic guy, full hair, 5'10", low body fat, and I approached several of the beautiful white skinned thin girls at Bui Ven, Ho Thi Ky street food (cool place), Vincom Mall, Saigon Mall, War Rememberance Museum, etc, but not one of them will give me the time of day. Most girls speak perfect english, but pretend not to. Sitting in cafe for hours is the most popular activity, but don't expect any mingling; when I quietly approached a group of girls at a table, they just stared at me with the most deadpan faces. Most girls I approached just gave me a 1 word answer and walked away. I tried Tinder, Vietnam Cupid, Date in Asia, Tantan, FB dating, Seeking Arrangements and couldn't get a date. My only matches were bar girls beconing me to come to Japan town to buy drinks.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JustAwny;2784960]Despite warnings that Vietnam sucks, I went during December 2022. Here's my review:

Conclusion: I really believe I covered all the bases, maybe you will have better luck than me. After travelling South East Asia for 10 years, this is the worst experience I had. All I saw was extremely snooty (but beautiful) women, poor nightlife and very limited, unsatisfactory mongering activities! I think Pattaya, Angeles City, Phuket, Phnom Penh, Manila, Cebu, Sabang, Subic, and Jakarta are all far better options! Until Japan town girls start offering short time for 1. 5 M, I won't be back. If you do decide to come, book the first few nights only, that way you can escape early from the utlimate challenge country with only a severely bruised ego. Afterthought: I did hear that a lot of the best freelancers moved on to Singapore or other countries due to the Pandemic.[/QUOTE]I was there in January and had wildly different experiences. Best advice I can give is go to singlemanforum, guys post on there far more frequently about Vietnan, I'the say on a daily basis. RTFF their forum, that's where I got most of my information. They have step-by-step guides, tell you what to expect and how to find certain places. Some of the discussions in that forum degrade into a pissing contest of who has a bigger dick, ignore all that shit and keep scrolling to read info from guys that actually contribute to the thread. Get the Grab app to get around, saves on any translation issues with transportation, and its super cheap. Keep in mind these are my experiences, not trying to disrespect anyone or make them look dumb. Not trying to tell you how to do you or dick police you, but just some things that might help. Do some research and learn about their culture, I've found some girls find it fun to teach the foreigner something new. Even though I'the use the same line with other girls, makes them feel special. As always YMMV, and take everything I say with a grain of salt and as a guide, not gospel.

Hotel: Don't bother with hotels, just get an AirBnB. If you get a hotel, then don't get a 5 star, they have a reputation to uphold and need to "save face" so most will not allow you to bring guests. Don't even bother getting a hotel in D1, as everything there is expensive since it caters to foreigners, so they can increase prices.

Dating: I'm 5'8", late 20's, also athletic build with less than 20% BMI, I'the consider myself average looking but tend to have a relaxed demeanor that allows several girls to let down their guard and become comfortable around me. I didn't have pics showing me off as muscular or looking like an F boy in my profile. Viet girls are not like Thai, Pinays, or other girls. Most of these girls tend to be traditional and want to date seriously with intent. I said most, not all. These girls don't respond well to daytime pickup or just hitting on them blatantly out in the open. Some decorum and tactics go a long way. This is where the usual 'foreigner doesn't know where to go' style helps. Ask for directions and use your phone to pretend to show her a map but have it written in Viet or English (Google translate might help) asking them for their number, asking for a date, giving a compliment, etc. Your best bet are 'foreigner chasers', more on them later. I used Badoo, Tinder, Bumble, and MEEFF. Got matches on all, then just had to filter out the ladyboys and bargirls. Have a decent profile with nice pictures, don't need to try and be a Chad but just write some basic stuff on there. Once you start talking to a girl, get them off the app within 5 messages and onto a messaging app called Zalo (it's what they use out there) or WhatsApp. Make sure they're not ladyboys, scammers, or bargirls before you get them off the app. I found Zalo to be better, cause the more you can relate and make it easier for them, the more comfortable they'll be with wanting to meet you. If you really want to go down the dark side, then promise these girls a green card (not sure your nationality) and it'll get things straight to them wanting to get you (this was told to me by a Viet male friend of mine, never tried it). Viet girls tend to like sticking tight in their circle of friends and don't like strangers, so I've always befriended the males in the groups first and thru them I'the be able to get into the circle.

Girls: Yes, these are some of the most beautiful Asian girls that dress very feminine and show some skin without looking slutty. While there, I spoke with Viet Kieus and expats to get BOG info, learned from Thailand and Philippines that shit can change from one day to another. Talking and research can save you a shit ton of time, money, and bad experiences. Not 100% effective, always got to account for the unknown unknowns and random variables, but can substantially decrease risk of having a bad time.

Bui Vien Street: Many hookers, ladyboys, and foreign chasers. Ask the girls if they are girls, they will be honest with you. If not sure, then just check them in the room before you even kiss, tell them you're a gynecologist back home LOL. Shit most of us have been in enough vajay to know what to look for by now. Freelancers are all over the place there, they're usually dressed like the bargirls but walking around and will easily approach you or you'll see them a few times just walking around for you to approach.

NPK: Not all Hot Tocs are great, but these are not the only ones in Saigon. In D3 there's a bunch right by the river, so just do the Riverwalk and you'll come across many, although they're not easy to spot to the untrained eye. Singlemanforum has the deets. My BJs here in NPK were great, girls were troopers and kept going till the deed was achieved. Go in the evening or late night, they'll do FS for 1 M VND ($50 USD), girl will come meet you after they get off work at 2 am at your place for 2 M VND. Just ask, worst they can do is say no or let you know which girl will do it.

Japan Town: All the bargirls there just want you in the bar to suck the money from you. So the chances of taking any girls from here home are incredibly small but not impossible, if a girl likes you enough you can get some freebies but how much money and time you want to spend at these places is up to you. Just get their Zalo / number, tell them to meet the following day. Or you can give them your contact info and walk away, can't say what works but know its worked for others. Go to Linh Cherry Massage, not Cherry massage, girls are easily 8+, 2 M for 60 minutes, FS. I went over my time with my girl by 30 min cause we were having a great time, normally they'the charge extra but I was downstairs at the 30 min mark so they didn't charge me for 90 min.

Gaito / Line / WeChat: Don't bother with WeChat, have only heard nothing but terrible things with this. Gaito is a mixed bag, its been described as a sex machine factory. You go meet the girl at a hotel do the deed then leave, SMF has a literal step-by-step guide on what to say, how the girl will respond, and what to expect when you get there. I followed that guide like gospel, never deviated, and everything worked exactly as described. There's some girls that don't service foreigners, or will do so for an extra charge. There's also massage republic, I tried a Gaito girl that was reviewed on SMF and an MR girl that was reviewed, and it was exactly as described. Even decided to be dangerous and tried a random Gaito girl that hadn't been reviewed and got regular results. In Gaito, the higher tiered girls will highly likely not offer better service than a 500 k VND girl. Stick with the 500 k to 800 k girls, they're just as pretty as the 1 M girls and may even offer a better service as they know foreigners sometimes tip based on performance. Not condoning any tipping or wanting to mess up the market, I didn't tip any girls and got good service. Entirely up to you, but not necessary.

Conclusion: Do some research and get up to date info before going to HCM. There are other forums besides this one, just like this that have a ton of info. I like to cast out a wide net and get all the info I can get, from the internet and people I meet there. It's impossible to proactively remember everything, but certain things that the girls do or say will trigger memories of shit I read / heard, which better helps me know what to do next. I'the say book a full week, I came here thinking I made a huge mistake, but only because I didn't prepare properly. Once I landed and had an ok day, got online and saw all that was available. There's plenty of mongering to be had here, not that its hard, its just different. Not the point and shoot like Thailand and PH. The SMF also has some funny stories, had some FL take off with a guys condom after they were done. After he released, she got off of him, took off his condom, tied a knot on the opened side, said something merrily as she put the condom in her purse then got dressed and walked away. I feel bad for the guy cause I've never heard of that, but was hilarious to read the story and comments LOL.

Thanks for the great report / advise, its really helpful for folks who never been to Vietnam. I see your advise not to stay in D1, any preferred location for ABNB or hotels?

[QUOTE=GuyReynolds;2798361]I was there in January and had wildly different experiences. Best advice I can give is go to singlemanforum, guys post on there far more frequently about Vietnan, I'the say on a daily basis. RTFF their forum, that's where I got most of my information. They have step-by-step guides, tell you what to expect and how to find certain places. Some of the discussions in that forum degrade into a pissing contest of who has a bigger dick, ignore all that shit and keep scrolling to read info from guys that actually contribute to the thread. Get the Grab app to get around, saves on any translation issues with transportation, and its super cheap. Keep in mind these are my experiences, not trying to disrespect anyone or make them look dumb. Not trying to tell you how to do you or dick police you, but just some things that might help. Do some research and learn about their culture, I've found some girls find it fun to teach the foreigner something new. Even though I'the use the same line with other girls, makes them feel special. As always YMMV, and take everything I say with a grain of salt and as a guide, not gospel..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Yendappu;2798891]Thanks for the great report / advise, its really helpful for folks who never been to Vietnam. I see your advise not to stay in D1, any preferred location for ABNB or hotels?[/QUOTE]I'd say somewhere between D1 and D3, I myself stayed in Phu Nhuan. Here's a map [URL]https://www.itourvn.com/blog/ho-chi-minh-city-districts-overview[/URL].

Amazing working girl and not taking the p#ss on rates:

[URL]https://massagerepublic.com/female-escorts-in-ho-chi-minh-city/su-ong[/URL]

A big favorite, but she can be choosy who she sees. Senior members that have good contributions can message me and I will give you a good reference.

Have fun guys, but please be respectful.

Cheers, SW.

The customers in Danang are mostly Korean. There are some Chinese, but they probably don't go to the massage shops. The streets of Danang are occasionally jammed with Korean tour groups.

Does anyone live or work around Phuong 2, District 3? I'm thinking about getting a place there. I know it's a little rough but interested in living conditions as a whole. Thanks for any help!

[QUOTE=GuyReynolds;2799899]I'd say somewhere between D1 and D3, I myself stayed in Phu Nhuan. Here's a map [URL]https://www.itourvn.com/blog/ho-chi-minh-city-districts-overview[/URL].[/QUOTE]All the buildings right by the river on the D4 side are very convenient.

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I'm very partial to girls with hairy, unshaved, natural bushes. Unshaved armpits even better. How can I find these gems without having them undressed in my room first?

[QUOTE=Yendappu;2798891]Thanks for the great report / advise, its really helpful for folks who never been to Vietnam. I see your advise not to stay in D1, any preferred location for ABNB or hotels?[/QUOTE]I always try to stay in the Tresor apartments inD4. Very convenient and they have security that will check Ids but not interfere with your activities aside from that.

Hello Seniors,

I'll be visiting HCMC in May for a few weeks. Purpose is to monger max and also go around. Would be great if you can recommend some chicks who are a must try. Would be great if you can share contacts of chicks in DM. I love a good GFE.

Thanks in advance.

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I am new to the forum, please forgive if there are any mistakes.

Recently completed my trip to vietnam, stayed around 28 days, initially it was just a 9 days tourist trip, due the urgent requirement I started working remotely for 2 weeks and it turned out as full of mongering trip. Stayed 4 days in hanoi,3 days in danang, 11 days in HCM and 10 days in Vung Tau.

Met girls from of gaito, MR, col, freelancers, massage girls, bar girls. Also tried random pickups. Overall it was a very busy trip and I enjoyed a lot. I will share my experiences here. This trip was followed by Cambodia and Thailand.

Met her in D2 for short time. 100 k extra for foreigners.

She came after 10 min of my room number msg. Welcomed her, locked door and turned back, she already removed her dress and climbing bed and started to make things hurry, but I insisted on foreplay.

We continued hugging, cuddling, tried to kiss on face but not allowed, so kissed on her entire body, pressed and sucked played with boobs, tried to finger but not allowed, as around 15 minutes passed asking me to put on see. But I asked for BJ, she was not ready to cooperate but showed her ad and asked to do it she did it with condom for 2 to 3 min, then I entered her in miss, and doggy. She became dead fish. So it took a while to finish. Later went to bath, but she asked me to stay out of bath room, after bath gave her 500 k.

Face: 8/10 (not allowed to kiss).

Boobs:10/10 (perfect silicon boobs).

Cat: 6/10 (not loose, its ok).

Ass:8/10.

Room:100 k.

Wir: No there are many options.

Stayed in Thu Duc area, after the heavy work not able to sleep (around 11 pm). So opened gaito used the search function and texted the first girl with out seeing anything. I am staying 200 mts from her hotel. Went there took a room texted number to her and went to bath.

After 10 min she knocked the door, in mean time I have dressed in shorts, as soon as she saw me she got surprised as I am a foreigner, at this point I remembered I haven't mentioned her while booking. She was a very cute little girl.

She felt very shy and went into the blanket directly, I locked the door and sat beside her, spoke using translator for 5 min, but that didn't worked, she was feeling very shy and not making eye contact. Then I tried to press her boobs over dress, to my dissapoint she was a flat chested and managing with sponge bra's. I tried kiss on lips but she resisted and asked me not to touch on her face. So we hugged and undressed each other, kissed remaing body and started playing with what ever boobs she has. After she gave very good HJ and BJ. Tried DATY but she resisted. Kept see and started drilling but cat was very loose asked her age. She told 22. And she is working for 4 years. Finally released after 5 min. While speaking got very bad smell from her mouth. I did not remember the money payed. To my surprise she asked me to help her wear clothes.

Face: 10/10 (she has a very cute face).

Boobs: 2/10 (only nipples).

Cat: 2/10 (very loose).

Wir: No.

Room: 100 k.

I was in tan binh area and looking for good BJ. Searched gaito and shortlisted her.

Again I forgot to mention that I am a foreigner, she was happy to see me and asked about my details spoke for 5 min the she went to bath and started deed, kissing, cuddling, sucking her boobs, 69, DATY, fingered her. She gave nice BJ, HJ, the entered her in doggy, moved to machinery, wot after some feats released in rev cow position, washed each other, it was a low cost 200 k only. Too good for the price. She sat and asked me what I want from gaito and suggested me girls also also some tips. I asked her weather it was necessary to mention as a foreigner. She told its not not required. If you reveal then ready to pay extra 100 or 200 k. Also she told many young girls are in the business and if did some search can get a girl in same hotel as well if the previous one rejected. She stayed with me more than 1 HR while leaving tipped her 100 k, hugged her and said bye, then she kissed me and took my pants down and kissed jonny and left. I was a good experience.

Face:8/10 (looks good).

Boobs: 8/10 (handful).

Cat: 5/10 (its ok for the age).

Hygiene: 9/10.

Not able to find her ad, may be it was removed.

Don't know how they missed.

[QUOTE=Bhuvi;2814740]Met her in D2 for short time. 100 k extra for foreigners.

She came after 10 min of my room number msg. Welcomed her, locked door and turned back, she already removed her dress and climbing bed and started to make things hurry, but I insisted on foreplay.

We continued hugging, cuddling, tried to kiss on face but not allowed, so kissed on her entire body, pressed and sucked played with boobs, tried to finger but not allowed, as around 15 minutes passed asking me to put on see. But I asked for BJ, she was not ready to cooperate but showed her ad and asked to do it she did it with condom for 2 to 3 min, then I entered her in miss, and doggy. She became dead fish. So it took a while to finish. Later went to bath, but she asked me to stay out of bath room, after bath gave her 500 k.

Face: 8/10 (not allowed to kiss).

Boobs:10/10 (perfect silicon boobs)..[/QUOTE]

Uploading the pics.

[QUOTE=Bhuvi;2814745]Stayed in Thu Duc area, after the heavy work not able to sleep (around 11 pm). So opened gaito used the search function and texted the first girl with out seeing anything. I am staying 200 mts from her hotel. Went there took a room texted number to her and went to bath.

After 10 min she knocked the door, in mean time I have dressed in shorts, as soon as she saw me she got surprised as I am a foreigner, at this point I remembered I haven't mentioned her while booking. She was a very cute little girl.

She felt very shy and went into the blanket directly, I locked the door and sat beside her, spoke using translator for 5 min, but that didn't worked, she was feeling very shy and not making eye contact. Then I tried to press her boobs over dress, to my dissapoint she was a flat chested and managing with sponge bra's. I tried kiss on lips but she resisted and asked me not to touch on her face. So we hugged and undressed each other, kissed remaing body and started playing with what ever boobs she has. After she gave very good HJ and BJ. Tried DATY but she resisted. Kept see and started drilling but cat was very loose asked her age. She told 22. And she is working for 4 years. Finally released after 5 min. While speaking got very bad smell from her mouth. I did not remember the money payed. To my surprise she asked me to help her wear clothes..[/QUOTE]

Hi,

I am travelling to hcm in couple of weeks I can't find a proper link to find the gaito girls. Can any one please post few links.

[QUOTE=Dudesam;2815741]Hi,

I am travelling to hcm in couple of weeks I can't find a proper link to find the gaito girls. Can any one please post few links.[/QUOTE]Go to google and do a search for "Single Man Forum". They are far more active on there when posting about HCMC and Vietnam in general. The Gaito site gets taken down sometimes, so they'll also post the new sites usually. Also look for the guide on how to write the girls, as they have a certain way to conduct business via Zalo / Text. Know that the higher priced girls don't equate to better service, so i'd suggest stick with girls around 500k VND. It'll prob be easier to access the site once you're there and have a local SIM card. I followed all the info and tips they had on that other forum, never failed me. That's not to say you shouldn't read info on this one, for a more complete picture. Don't bother with bar girls, unless they're willing to meet you outside the bar. Just get their number and keep it moving.

Bhuvi, I'm surprised you got charged a 'foreigner fee'. Although I wasn't there as long as you, I never got charged that. I'd even mention via text I was a foreigner, and they were ok with it. The only girls I could get to kiss though were the MR and Linh Cherry girls.

[QUOTE=GuyReynolds;2816010].Bhuvi, I'm surprised you got charged a 'foreigner fee'. Although I wasn't there as long as you, I never got charged that. I'd even mention via text I was a foreigner, and they were ok with it. The only girls I could get to kiss though were the MR and Linh Cherry girls.[/QUOTE]In my experience, you get about 1/10 asking for it after they meet you. Maybe 3/10 if they figure out you are a foreigner before meeting you. In my experience, you are more likely to be asked by girls in D1/ D2 as they have more foreigners or the girls who have been working for a while.

[QUOTE=DandyMan51;2816283]In my experience, you get about 1/10 asking for it after they meet you. Maybe 3/10 if they figure out you are a foreigner before meeting you. In my experience, you are more likely to be asked by girls in D1/ D2 as they have more foreigners or the girls who have been working for a while.[/QUOTE]Only Some girls from gaito will keep foreigner fee as a surcharge in their profiles, so we will know before texting her. Some will ask you as soon as they saw you, so it was up to you to accept them or not. This only happened with gaito girls (as it was more local).

I rejected one girl when she asked foreigner fee (real reason was bad smell from her mouth) and immediately pinged other girls using near me option. Out of 5, 1 was in the same hotel she came in less than 5 min. In between the previous girls knocked the door to tell she was ok without foreigner fee (may be she don't have other guests) as I was trying to explain her I booked other girl, new girl came she was more beautiful and seems younger too. They two spoke for a min and offered me 3 some, but I rejected straight away and asked other girl to leave. Observing her body language and arrogant tone, I believe she scolded me and left, but I did not understand (only advantage of not knowing Vietnamese). I had a great time with the new one so took her for second round also.

Also there are psychopaths, arrongant girls (as soon as I find some thing wrong during foreplay, I will just pay them ask them to leave), Overall I had good experiences with gaito girls as they are well in the budget.

[QUOTE=Dudesam;2815741]Hi,

I am travelling to hcm in couple of weeks I can't find a proper link to find the gaito girls. Can any one please post few links.[/QUOTE]Gaito Website link (new): [URL]https://www.gaito.cx/gai-goi/[/URL].

Other website like gaito: [URL]https://gaigu8.tv/gai-goi[/URL].

These links keeps changing so bookmark them, when they links change it will redirect to new link.

I am looking for hotels that it would be easy to get a girl to my room without having to have her check in at the front desk.

Basically meeting up for some dates with non-working girls. Think it would be uncomfortable if we were to go back to my hotel and she had to check in at the front desk.

Anyone have a recommendation. I'm thinking maybe a place where the elevator and entrance are not within direct eyesight of the front desk.

Can anyone give me some good advise hotels around 30 usa and what's the best area to be in and walking distance to the best group of bars and massages. Thanks for any help.

Vietnam has been on my bucket list to visit for many years, so I decided to take advantage of a recent window of opportunity to visit. While I enjoyed my trip and thought HCM was an interesting city, I do not think this is a place that I would revisit. To me, there are just other options that better align with my preferences.

First, arriving in HCM is fairly straightforward provided that you have obtained your evisa prior to your arrival. This is something I overlooked and had to do the day before my arrival. The expedited service cost me $160 for four hour service, but I had no problem getting through immigration upon arrival. The lines at immigration were long and moved slow, but no questions or interrogation by the agent.

I used the Grab service at the airport. I had read inaccurate information about Uber availability in Vietnam. Uber does NOT operated in Vietnam, so download the Grab app prior to your trip or just use the metered taxi. After using Grab to get to my hotel, I used taxis for all of my transportation and they were relatively inexpensive. I found all of the taxis air conditioned, clean, and all used the meter.

I wanted to stay in district 1 and debated staying at the Hyatt or the Sheraton. The rate I was seeing at the Hyatt was 2 x the rate at the Sheraton, so I opted for staying there and I am glad I did. The Sheraton in HCM is one of the nicest I have ever stayed. The club lounge is remarkable and offers an incredible breakfast spread and a great happy hour. I had no need to pay for dinner given the vast offering in the lounge.

I did a lot of research prior to my trip and even had a Vietnamese friend on the ground to help me. I checked out a lot of places, but the only place I felt worthwhile during my entire trip was Cherry Linh.

Nguyen Phi Khahn Street. I took a taxi to this area eager to see what this area really offered and I was extremely disappointed. I arrived mid-afternoon and walked up and down the street stopping in most of the places. While these massage / BJ places are super cheap, I did not see any girls appealing and the places were shitholes. No thanks!

Luxury Massage. I hit a place called Hawaii Luxury Massage and another called Dubai Luxury Massage. I saw YouTube videos on these places and they looked good. Unfortunately when you arrive, you select a girl from photos on an iPad and you must pay in advance. I recall the price being 3 million for an hour. The Hawaii place told me they had 16 girls working but when I arrived there were only 5 girls working. What turned me off the most was how rude the guy was that greeted me. I walked out. I was not paying in advance if I could not select the girl from a lineup.

Beauty Salons. If you checkout YouTube, there are a few vloggers that promote their channels with videos of these places and suggest vip massages services. These videos are VERY misleading! I hit two of these places. One was Mimi Beauty salon and the other was a place right down the street. I got a haircut, shave, shampoo and massage. These places have a lot of girls dressed in yellow dresses, heals, full makeup, and looking very sexy. The haircuts and shave are done by men. The shampoo and massage are done by the girls. For the price, it is a remarkable deal, but no happy ending is on the menu regardless of tip. My massage girl allowed me to put my hand on her ass, but she wasn't touching me and did not encourage me to get myself off. Any YouTube videos suggesting that these places offer happy endings are just misleading. If you do need a haircut and do want some pampering by hot Vietnamese girls, these places are good but they are mostly a tease.

Bui Vien Walking Street. This is not like any walking street in Thailand! There are bars on both sides of the street each playing super load music. I checked out several of the bars and even walked down a few alleys where there are massage places, but did not see any hot girls. If you want to go there and just drink, it is fine, but I would not go here looking to find girls.

Ton That Dam Street. There is a bar area about a 10 minute walk from my hotel where there are a lot of bars. Again, I saw videos on YouTube where all these bars have girls sitting out front trying to get you to go in and drink. I walked up and down all of these streets and did not find one girl appealing enough to get me to go in and buy a drink. I do not know if you can barfine these girls and get them back to your hotel, but I didn't see any really hot girls worth stopping for. Please note, they are all super friendly and will try to get you to come in, but it just wasn't worth my time so I moved on.

Little Tokyo / Little Japan. I saw a lot of YouTube videos on this area of HCM and was hopeful this would be my honey hole for beautiful Vietnamese girls. But sadly it was not. I walked this area during the day and each night. I was so disappointed. It's kind of an interesting area with little bars and little restaurants. I think there were 3-4 massage places too. The bars usually have 2-5 girls sitting outside urging you to come in and drink. Given that I am an American and that these places are known to cater to Asian clients, I expected to be ignored by these girls, but they were extremely friendly. Had I found some really hot girls, I definitely would have gone in and investigated what they really offered, but I just didn't see any girls that appealed to me.

Cherry Linh. This place proved to be my only go-to place for my fun in HCM. Fortunately it was located a very short walk from my hotel. I hit Cherry Linh twice a day and met some very attractive girls here. For 500,000 for 60 minutes plus 2 million for "boom boom" it is a very good value. Basically a little more that $100 with a lovely Vietnamese girl. It was interesting being asked to sit down next to mamasan while she surrounds you with 20+ girls to select from. While Cherry Linh was a good place, it certainly isn't a good reason by itself to visit HCM. Good value with attractive girls, not a place you hangout and spend any time.

I am fairly certain that there must be some amazing places that wealthy Vietnamese men visit in HCM that are off the radar to foreigners, but I did my best to uncover all of my options and left disappointed. Based on all of my research and tapping into all of my resources of what is available, I would not return to Vietnam. Based on what I saw, not many Americans, Brits or Aussies visit HCM.

Great report ATexGuy. And I have to agree with you 100%. HCM isn't really a mongering spot and I also found it to be a waste of time.

[QUOTE=Anaggie;2823778]Great report ATexGuy. And I have to agree with you 100%. HCM isn't really a mongering spot and I also found it to be a waste of time.[/QUOTE]Yes, I am finding that Sao Paulo is the best place for what I like and Hong Kong in Tijuana is the next best option if I want just a quick 2-3 night trip. It was an interesting place to visit from a historical standpoint, but that was not the primary reason for my visit.

[QUOTE=ATexGuy;2823769]Vietnam has been on my bucket list to visit for many years, so I decided to take advantage of a recent window of opportunity to visit. While I enjoyed my trip and thought HCM was an interesting city, I do not think this is a place that I would revisit. To me, there are just other options that better align with my preferences....[/QUOTE]I had the same experience like you for the most part. I was lucky in meeting a nice lady in a bar in Bui Vien. I ended up spending a few wonderful days with her. Otherwise, it was the pits. Very disappointing!

[QUOTE=ATexGuy;2823769]Vietnam has been on my bucket list to visit for many years, so I decided to take advantage of a recent window of opportunity to visit. While I enjoyed my trip and thought HCM was an interesting city, I do not think this is a place that I would revisit. To me, there are just other options that better align with my preferences.

I am fairly certain that there must be some amazing places that wealthy Vietnamese men visit in HCM that are off the radar to foreigners, but I did my best to uncover all of my options and left disappointed. Based on all of my research and tapping into all of my resources of what is available, I would not return to Vietnam. Based on what I saw, not many Americans, Brits or Aussies visit HCM.[/QUOTE]Where do you recommend a better option than HCMC? I've been to Hong Kong in Tijuana and other places, I think for cheap sex, HCM is probably the best option, but I'm open for suggestions, as long as the hotel / love motel is kinda decent / clean.

[QUOTE=Apollo946;2824174]Where do you recommend a better option than HCMC? I've been to Hong Kong in Tijuana and other places, I think for cheap sex, HCM is probably the best option, but I'm open for suggestions, as long as the hotel / love motel is kinda decent / clean.[/QUOTE]Not Vietnam. Manila and Angeles City in Philippines. Bangkok, Phuket, Pattaya in Thailand. Jakarta in Indonesia.

[QUOTE=Apollo946;2824174]Where do you recommend a better option than HCMC? I've been to Hong Kong in Tijuana and other places, I think for cheap sex, HCM is probably the best option, but I'm open for suggestions, as long as the hotel / love motel is kinda decent / clean.[/QUOTE]To me, the absolute best value is at the massage places in São Paulo Brazil. My favorite place for the hottest girls is at Scandallo in São Paulo. It can pricey by comparison, but they have the hottest girls.

[QUOTE=ATexGuy;2824398]To me, the absolute best value is at the massage places in So Paulo Brazil. My favorite place for the hottest girls is at Scandallo in So Paulo. It can pricey by comparison, but they have the hottest girls.[/QUOTE]I would have to second this. And add in the IOP (Illusion of passion) of the Brazilians and nothing can compare to Brazil.

[QUOTE=Anaggie;2824548]I would have to second this. And add in the IOP (Illusion of passion) of the Brazilians and nothing can compare to Brazil.[/QUOTE]Could not agree more. I have been to Poland, Ukraine, Thailand, Cambodia and Philippines. Brazil in terms of price and value easily #1.

I pity the fools that still think Thailand is at the top and are paying 1700+ for girls that would have host 1000 just a couple years ago. Thats some extreme 70% inflation lmao.

Only "issue" with Brazil is that it is not as safe as most asian options and that language barrier is definitely a thing. But for (primarily) short time enjoyers of gorgeous 18-25 yr old girls Brazil is king.

[QUOTE=GuyReynolds;2798361]I was there in January and had wildly different experiences. Best advice I can give is go to singlemanforum, guys post on there far more frequently about Vietnan, I'the say on a daily basis. RTFF their forum, that's where I got most of my information. They have step-by-step guides, tell you what to expect and how to find certain places. Some of the discussions in that forum degrade into a pissing contest of who has a bigger dick, ignore all that shit and keep scrolling to read info from guys that actually contribute to the thread. Get the Grab app to get around, saves on any translation issues with transportation, and its super cheap. Keep in mind these are my experiences, not trying to disrespect anyone or make them look dumb. Not trying to tell you how to do you or dick police you, but just some things that might help. Do some research and learn about their culture, I've found some girls find it fun to teach the foreigner something new. Even though I'the use the same line with other girls, makes them feel special. As always YMMV, and take everything I say with a grain of salt and as a guide, not gospel.

Hotel: Don't bother with hotels, just get an AirBnB. If you get a hotel, then don't get a 5 star, they have a reputation to uphold and need to "save face" so most will not allow you to bring guests. Don't even bother getting a hotel in D1, as everything there is expensive since it caters to foreigners, so they can increase prices.

Dating: I'm 5'8", late 20's, also athletic build with less than 20% BMI, I'the consider myself average looking but tend to have a relaxed demeanor that allows several girls to let down their guard and become comfortable around me. I didn't have pics showing me off as muscular or looking like an F boy in my profile. Viet girls are not like Thai, Pinays, or other girls. Most of these girls tend to be traditional and want to date seriously with intent. I said most, not all. These girls don't respond well to daytime pickup or just hitting on them blatantly out in the open. Some decorum and tactics go a long way. This is where the usual 'foreigner doesn't know where to go' style helps. Ask for directions and use your phone to pretend to show her a map but have it written in Viet or English (Google translate might help) asking them for their number, asking for a date, giving a compliment, etc. Your best bet are 'foreigner chasers', more on them later. I used Badoo, Tinder, Bumble, and MEEFF. Got matches on all, then just had to filter out the ladyboys and bargirls. Have a decent profile with nice pictures, don't need to try and be a Chad but just write some basic stuff on there. Once you start talking to a girl, get them off the app within 5 messages and onto a messaging app called Zalo (it's what they use out there) or WhatsApp. Make sure they're not ladyboys, scammers, or bargirls before you get them off the app. I found Zalo to be better, cause the more you can relate and make it easier for them, the more comfortable they'll be with wanting to meet you. If you really want to go down the dark side, then promise these girls a green card (not sure your nationality) and it'll get things straight to them wanting to get you (this was told to me by a Viet male friend of mine, never tried it). Viet girls tend to like sticking tight in their circle of friends and don't like strangers, so I've always befriended the males in the groups first and thru them I'the be able to get into the circle.[/QUOTE]Wow, thanks for all the info! Will definitely check out SMF as I'll be headed to HCM soon as well as other parts of VN. Did you bring any girls back to your AirBnB and if you did, did they stick around till the morning to give you another round?

I live in Philippines and visited Thailand many times. I have to agree on Brazil. An example. I was alone lunchtime in very busy self service restaurant in Rio business district. Two very attractive secretaries sat opposite me. Unbelievablely they went to get their food and left their handbags with me (When they came back with their food I asked them about that and they said I looked like a 'good' man. Things went naturally from there. Of course this was a one off, but it created a big impression on me. Yes, language is an issue but one can use that to one's advantage.

I also found making contact easy in Argentina, especially in the cafes in the business district.

Brazil is numero uno! The best place on earth for mongering bar none! And especially if you like anal hahaha!

I have visited both recently. I would say that both are great. Probably to two best destinations in the world currently. Highest-end club in Brazil is Scandallo. The highest-end clubs in Pattaya are on Walking Street (Pinups, XS, Palace, etc). How do they compare, not factoring price into the equation (which is probably roughly the same)?

- Girl appearance: If you are into shapelier girls, you'll prefer Scandallo for sure. Scandallo has some spinners, and even some ethnic-Japanese girls. But most of them are much bigger than the spinners on Walking Street. Walking Street is 100% spinners. If you are not into spinners, stick to Brazil.

- Girl Performance: Brazilian girls are consistently good, often great. The WS girls can be hit or miss. Often will get better performance from girls from Windmill, etc.

- Venues: Hanging around Scandallo between 8 and 10 pm while waiting for the bulk of the girls to arrive can be boring, especially if you are by yourself. Walking Street with its naked, topless, and hands-on agogos is paradise. Pattaya is not only about the bedroom. It is also about getting teased in the clubs.

- Environment: Sao Paulo is a big city and can be dangerous particularly in the evening. Need to take Ubers all the time to get around. Pattaya is a very safe resort, with lots of fun stuff to look at on the streets. Thai food is amazing. In Sao Paulo, when I am not at Scandallo, I pretty much stay in my hotel room. In Pattaya, when not on WS in the evenings, I am out on the streets walking about, getting a massage, visiting Sanctuary of Truth, strolling Soi 6, eating Thai food or a great burger. Very relaxing place.

But getting back to Vietnam, I am very attracted to them. It is really too bad that the scene has dried up there.

Heading to Hanoi and Ho Chi Minh soon.

Has anyone used Massage Republic or City of Love Escorts. They have many ads for each city and prices are varied.

[QUOTE=ATexGuy;2823769]
I am fairly certain that there must be some amazing places that wealthy Vietnamese men visit in HCM that are off the radar to foreigners, but I did my best to uncover all of my options and left disappointed. Based on all of my research and tapping into all of my resources of what is available, I would not return to Vietnam. Based on what I saw, not many Americans, Brits or Aussies visit HCM.[/QUOTE]Vietnamese are a bit more reserved type of people, thus the party scene are somewhat tame compared to other places. Passion plays are not welcome in public, but in private, the Vietnamese ladies are second to none. In my experience, the best encounters are of two types:

1. Managed workers: they are most likely on some websites, the sites change name often, but RTFF you will find some updates. They are fairly easy to use (use Google translate). If you have some language skill and willing to travel, you will find more. In the North, travel to Do-Son near Hai-Phong. It is a whole industry over there. Each house has a number of girls in residence. Girls are young and pretty, and price is universal. Yes, one price, all the houses agree on a price and it is public. In the South, travel to Vung-Tau, just about every other massage is either FS or happy ending. In HCM city, hotel in the 2-star and 3-star range will let you bring guest. Don't worry about the papers, the girls will do it themselves. Most likely they know the front desk people very well. Hotel 4-stars and above will be more hassle with girls (high ranking officials and their families stay there). In many cases, if you make friend with the front desk or the security guards, they can call the girl for you (yes, they will have a bit mark up on price, but you save the hassle). If you can get them to call the girl for you, the girl will knock on your door and you typically have the right of refusal (keep the girl outside the door, if you let her in, she can ask for taxi fee if you end up with refusal).

2. FL. You have to be willing to invest some time and efforts, they range from high maintenance to completely free.

I prefer the second type and now only use type 1 when my type 2 are not available. I have developed some LTR with some middle ages (I prefer mature type, they are a lot less drama and appreciate their partners, either money or just small gifts). My hobby expenses in Vietnam has been the lowest by far (compared to other places in my hobby past such as Dubai, Thailand, USA, etc.). Most of my LTR in Vietnam now are almost free. I do pay for tours, foods, tickets, etc. When they travel with me, and some occasional small gifts.

Sorry that you did not have the full experience in Vietnam. I am posting my answer here hoping the next visitor will have better luck.

Cheers,

[QUOTE=BOS143;2825068]Wow, thanks for all the info! Will definitely check out SMF as I'll be headed to HCM soon as well as other parts of VN. Did you bring any girls back to your AirBnB and if you did, did they stick around till the morning to give you another round?[/QUOTE]My experience is that dating in Vietnam was extremely difficult unless you have a LOT of time. You'll literally get 1000's of messages from ladyboys and bargirls and maybe get back 1 or 2 from a real girl. Then the language barrier becomes a real problem. Don't even bother trying to meet girls on the street, they won't talk to foreigners, other than the fewest words possible. I've had a lot of luck in Thailand, Philippines, Malaysia, Indonesia, etc. Vietnam is dead last.

I'm currently in town and must say the nightlife seems kinda lame and the I'm kinda disappointed as I'd heard that Vietnamese girls were the most attractive of the Asians to me that has to go with the Koreans. I'm glad I have my Thai girlfriend with me so I don't have to worry about finding a chick. I heard Apocalypse now bar had close and check there is a new one but the night I tried to go it was closed so not sure if it's open.

I know this is the Vietnam / HCM board, but while there's a discussion of where in the world is the best mongering going on: I'm two years living in Thailand now. Had a civilian Brazilian girlfriend in the US for just under three years, but never mongered there. Been to several South American countries as well as the Philippines for mongering but again, haven't done the Brazil P4 P scene.

Couple things before I get to the main point:

1) The Brazilian big but thing is real. The girls all want one, and the Brazilian guys aren't interested in them if they aint got one.

2) Brazil (civilian) chicks are either complete freaks in the sack, or very vanilla. Mostly the latter. Not starfish dead, just vanilla. They'll jump in the sack quick enough and as often as you'd like, but it's usually straight to missionary and that's it.

3) Philippine women age terribly. Seriously, the average 45 year old Thai puts 30 year old Philippinas to shame. Even over 25 it's pretty slim pickins' with the Pinays. (And the Phils food is horrendous compared to Thailand. I lost weight there from avoiding / eating as little as I could of the drek they call food there.).

Anyway, to the bit about Vietnam that caught my attention:

[QUOTE=GuyReynolds;2798361] Viet girls tend to like sticking tight in their circle of friends and don't like strangers, so I've always befriended the males in the groups first and thru them I'the be able to get into the circle.[/QUOTE]This is EXACTLY how it works best in Thailand too. Awesome advice. Perfect. If you're just there (here) to get laid, RTFF and open up your wallet. But if you're looking for a quality girl for a real relationship, make friends with the guys. They'll hook you up. You won't even have to ask them.

[QUOTE=TravelingMan3;2837510]I'm currently in town and must say the nightlife seems kinda lame and the I'm kinda disappointed as I'd heard that Vietnamese girls were the most attractive of the Asians to me that has to go with the Koreans. I'm glad I have my Thai girlfriend with me so I don't have to worry about finding a chick. I heard Apocalypse now bar had close and check there is a new one but the night I tried to go it was closed so not sure if it's open.[/QUOTE]Idk why people are talking so bad about HCMC as a mongering destination. I've been with probably over 2000 girls in my life and one of the hottest ones was in a massage parlor just off Bui Vien Walking Street. This was in August 2022.

Any time of day you can go get a "haircut" and you won't have to look long before you find a girl that's at least passable for quick fun.

[QUOTE=NRandom940;2841191]Idk why people are talking so bad about HCMC as a mongering destination. I've been with probably over 2000 girls in my life and one of the hottest ones was in a massage parlor just off Bui Vien Walking Street. This was in August 2022.

Any time of day you can go get a "haircut" and you won't have to look long before you find a girl that's at least passable for quick fun.[/QUOTE]And please share the name & address of the place so we all get to share the fun?

[QUOTE=DandyMan51;2746893]There are a lot of people asking about the scene in HCMC. I was just there and met up with other mongers, largely Vietnamese-Americans, and can give a quick rundown of my experiences.

Massages (non-Little Tokyo): There are a ton of places that do massages in HCMC. Just look-up massages and most of them will be an erotic massage. If you aren't sure, just check the hours. If it closes after 9 PM, it is probably a working place. The prices for these places range from $50-$100 for around 1. 5 hours of service. The way it works is you go to the location. You pay either the room fee only or the room fee (ticket) and the girl price (tip) to the front desk and they take you to the room. There is a small sauna in the room and a bathtub. Depending on the place they will ask you what you are looking for a girl and based on this they will send a girl to your room that may or may not be up to your standard. Typically I don't take my clothes off for the sauna until I see a girl I like. If you don't like the girl, you can ask to switch and they will change the girl. Most places typically have a rule for up to 3 switches before telling you to just pick one or leave. Some places will keep switching but it really depends on how many girls are there that day vs the number of customers. If you decide to leave, they will give you your money back, I have never had a problem with this. If you pick a girl, she will turn on the tub to fill it up while you either wait or go in the sauna. She will fill the tub up and take off her clothes. Depending on the girl, she may help take off your clothes too. From the sauna you go straight to the tub where the girl cleans you and may tease you a bit. She washes every part of your body, especially your dick and cleans herself a bit. She will typically get in the tub with you and you can play with her body to your heart's content (rubbing / grabbing her tits, ass, pussy and body). You then go to the bed / massage table on your stomach where the girls will start giving you some form of massage. Depending on the place it will vary in quality but it won't be anywhere no professional quality (naturally). The massage will be some combination of a swedish massage, shiatsu and nuru depending the girl and location. She will then flip you over and proceed to do the same on your front with the added benefit of her giving you a handjob and blowjob and some nipple sucking. I had one place where the girl did sumata on me. They will do this until you blow your load and for a little longer to make sure it all comes out. The girl will typically than clean herself off in the shower before asking you to come and quickly cleaning your body off. You will dress up and give the girl the tip (equal to the ticket price), if you didn't already give it to the front desk and the girl will escort you back to the lobby. The girls at these places are generally 6-8 in rating though 8's are rather rare. FS is off the table for almost every massage place. There is an odd couple that offer it but I never visited them. I have kissed the girls but they don't kiss back. The girls are generally quite sweet and it is a good experience that you are unlikely to find in many other places.

Massages (Little Japan): There are a handful of massage places in Little Japan that deserve their own section. The best of which is Linh Cherry. The biggest advantage of this place is that full service is almost guaranteed (I have only heard of one girl here who didn't). This area is oriented to foreigners and is run by the Vietnamese navy instead of the police force so there is no risk of being hassled here. When you enter Linh Cherry, the staff sits you down in the lobby where the girls all line up wearing white ao dais. You pick the girl before going to the room. These girls as a whole tend to be prettier than the other massage places and the ao dais help. The price for the room is 500 k VND for one hour ($22). When you go to the room the procedure is the same as the regular massage places but the girl doesn't take off her clothes when she bathes you nor does she for the first half of the massage. Once she instructs you to flip she will typically ask if you want any extras. FS is 2 Million VND, BJ is 1. 5 million VND so there isn't really a reason not to do FS unless you are vehemently against it. You bang the girl in whichever way you want until you cum after which you do the same shower and payment to the girl before leaving with the girl back downstairs to the lobby.

Gaito: This is the main online tool and is used by the locals. The website is all in Vietnamese but some google translate is enough to get through it. It is similar to escort websites anywhere else but the advantages are that the girls are reviewed by other mongers and there is full transparency in the services and prices offered. The downsides are that you need to go to the girl and the pictures are all photoshopped though the reviews help filter out through this. Price for the girls are generally between $10-$100. I wouldn't recommend any girl that is less than $25 because the quality of the girls and that of the hotels they work at drop off. When you find a girl that you like you send her a text message in Vietnamese (there are guides to this to sound vietnamese but google translate will work to). If the girl figures out you are a foreigner through your shitty google translate Vietnamese she will typically ask for an extra 100 k VND ($4-5). She will send the hotel / motel she is working at and the address. You go to the hotel, ask the front desk for a room for an hour (you will almost never need longer) and text the girl your room number. One time I actually saw the girl I was texting in the elevator as she was going between clients. You take a shower and lie naked on the bed. The girl will then knock the door or come right in depending on if the door is locked. Typically the girl will come 10-20 minutes after you text her the room number. She will shower and you do the deed. Usually starting with BBBJ and then into FS. The whole process will likely take no more than 20 minutes and the girl will shower and dress up immediately after finishing as she likely has another customer waiting. You pay the girl as she leaves and leave the room, return the key and pay for the room (typically between $10 and $15 for an hour).

Line: If you use the people nearby feature on line you will be messaged by a number of working girls. They will almost always be different from the pictures on their profile and may even be secret ladyboys. I wouldn't recommend this option but it is an option if you want the girl to come to your hotel.

Bars (Pasteur and Little Japan): There are a number of bars where some really hot girls sit outside and inside beckoning for customers in both of these areas. This in my opinion is the biggest waste of money. Almost none of the girls will go back home with you and even the ones who may consider will only do so after they have bled you dry through drinks. The drinks at these places are overpriced and the girls will typically only stick around if you buy them lady drinks. Girls will keep coming and as you get more drunk you will keep buying drinks. I have seen many a man blow $500 in a night with no sex in these bars and these are often catered to the Korean or Japanese businessman who values the company of the girls rather than the sex itself. Many of the girls here will be the most beautiful ones. One thing to note is that the girls are not allowed to just order drinks, you must specifically agree to the drinks so as long as you don't allow them to, they won't run up the bill. Of course this also means the girls will look for other customers rather than spend time with you.

KTV: Very similar to bars but with a Karaoke aspect. You still need to watch out about running up the bill. There is a higher probability of sex in these places then the bars but from what I have seen the prices are rather high and you are much better off going to Linh Cherry unless you really want to sing, dance and party with the girls.

Clubs: I went to one club (Lush) with working girls and it was smoke filled and cramped. I really didn't like it so I decided not to stick around. This is another potential option if you want girls to come to your apartment.

Hot-tocs: Way cheaper version of massage places with more basic service and often dirty. Not my preference unless you want something really cheap.

Overall: Vietnam's biggest advantage over other countries is that it is cheap. Gaito has some of the best price to girl looks ratios I have found in the world. The service of gaito girls is typically mediocre and it is a suck and fuck affair. The massages are good value if you are happy with a blow job. But I love the white skin on Vietnamese girls. Downsides are that you won't get the quality of service that you get in Thailand or Latin America, the lack of English (and the poor translating ability of google translate in Vietnamese), the visa policy (30 days before a visa run) and the terrible traffic. I would recommend going there if you want to go to Thailand but are on a tighter budget or if you are really into light skinned asians and don't want to deal with the BS and prices in Korea, Japan or China.[/QUOTE]Great summary. For the bar girls on Pasteur, is it common for the girls to allow groping, kissing, and fingering them while they try to milk you for drinks?

[QUOTE=EuronEuro;2845384]Great summary. For the bar girls on Pasteur, is it common for the girls to allow groping, kissing, and fingering them while they try to milk you for drinks?[/QUOTE]Pasteur girls are akin to Pattaya gogo girls. If you allow them to drink a lot they will. If you know how to control girls ordering lots of drinks they won't. I find Pasteur girls less thirsty than Little Japan girls who are way less thirsty than tourist starved Bui Vien girls.

As for mileage, that's purely YMMV. For me it's common DFK and groping. I'm not a fingering guy even if offered to me.

FYI that review you dug up is a year old.

[QUOTE=Bhuvi;2817192]Gaito Website link (new): [URL]https://www.gaito.cx/gai-goi/[/URL].

Other website like gaito: [URL]https://gaigu8.tv/gai-goi[/URL].

These links keeps changing so bookmark them, when they links change it will redirect to new link.[/QUOTE]Both of those websites have same girls listed? Which one is better in your opinion?

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2845654]Pasteur girls are akin to Pattaya gogo girls. If you allow them to drink a lot they will. If you know how to control girls ordering lots of drinks they won't. I find Pasteur girls less thirsty than Little Japan girls who are way less thirsty than tourist starved Bui Vien girls.

As for mileage, that's purely YMMV. For me it's common DFK and groping. I'm not a fingering guy even if offered to me.

FYI that review you dug up is a year old.[/QUOTE]LOL. Didn't realized it was that old. How likely is it to play their game with the drinks and getting them back to hotel for P4P at these Pasteur bars?

I am in this neck of the woods for sometime. Thanks to those who have posted regularly on the forum. I hope I can make the most of it when time allows. I would love to meet any other mongers offline please DM.

I haven't seen this area mentioned before, and D7 seems rarely mentioned at all, but I live in D7 and there's this 'mostly' Korean area with tons of full service 'massage' shops. There has to be at least 20 in this neighborhood and some of them have some smoking hot Viet girls. I tried one out. Was 1. 8 m for FS. Pretty decent massage. BBBJ with covered FS. I had an apartment above one of these places for a bit. Was funny walking by and waving to the girls every day. Vietnam is a trip.

Anyway, this area is a tucked away neighborhood with three streets running north to south, and about 10 streets running east west. Middle street is called bui bang doan. Just Google Starfit Fitness and yoga, D7. That entire area has FS massage shops littered throughout all those streets. There's at least one on every street and some have a lot more. Lots of restaurants, bars, (normal and drinky girl ones on a certain street,) some clubs, hotels, coffee shops etc. It's actually a nice area that's not chaotic like the rest of HCM. More high end, mostly Korean but a fair amount of western expats there too.

Worth checking out and something different from Bui Vien or Pasteur st, or NPK BJ street.

I have never found any of the drinky girl bars similar to Pasteur St, do you have any bar names worth trying, what's the name of thre street please?

[QUOTE=Trace79;2856546]I haven't seen this area mentioned before, and D7 seems rarely mentioned at all, but I live in D7 and there's this 'mostly' Korean area with tons of full service 'massage' shops. There has to be at least 20 in this neighborhood and some of them have some smoking hot Viet girls. I tried one out. Was 1. 8 m for FS. Pretty decent massage. BBBJ with covered FS. I had an apartment above one of these places for a bit. Was funny walking by and waving to the girls every day. Vietnam is a trip.

Anyway, this area is a tucked away neighborhood with three streets running north to south, and about 10 streets running east west. Middle street is called bui bang doan. Just Google Starfit Fitness and yoga, D7. That entire area has FS massage shops littered throughout all those streets. There's at least one on every street and some have a lot more. Lots of restaurants, bars, (normal and drinky girl ones on a certain street,) some clubs, hotels, coffee shops etc. It's actually a nice area that's not chaotic like the rest of HCM. More high end, mostly Korean but a fair amount of western expats there too.

Worth checking out and something different from Bui Vien or Pasteur st, or NPK BJ street.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nomes2015;2856608]I have never found any of the drinky girl bars similar to Pasteur St, do you have any bar names worth trying, what's the name of thre street please?[/QUOTE]There aren't as many in number, as far as drinky girl bars, but there's several on one street and just from walking by, the quality of them sitting outside and trying to wave me in were far better than anything I've ever seen sitting outside Pasteur st.

The street is one on the right hand side, closer to the northern side and larger than the small ones. Pretty hard to miss if walking around at night and looking for it. Follow the loud music.

Hi All, I'm visiting Ho Chi Minh for the first time and considering Alagon Saigon hotel in District 1. Is this area good one? I'm primarily looking for a hotel and area closer to finding FL to take them back to my hotel. Some of the hotels mention that only registered guests are allowed to stay in rooms. Do they strictly check this?

[QUOTE=JuneFly;2856875]Hi All, I'm visiting Ho Chi Minh for the first time and considering Alagon Saigon hotel in District 1. Is this area good one? I'm primarily looking for a hotel and area closer to finding FL to take them back to my hotel. Some of the hotels mention that only registered guests are allowed to stay in rooms. Do they strictly check this?[/QUOTE]Some hotels in HCM strictly enforce govt regulations. I would suggest everywhere in SEA always book for 2, send an email direct to hotel and get their joiner policy in writing and take it with you. I just tell them on some nights my niece might come visit me. They're not dumb, they've seen it before. Usually its the govt owned hotels that are strict.

NI.

[QUOTE=JuneFly;2856875]Hi All, I'm visiting Ho Chi Minh for the first time and considering Alagon Saigon hotel in District 1. Is this area good one? I'm primarily looking for a hotel and area closer to finding FL to take them back to my hotel. Some of the hotels mention that only registered guests are allowed to stay in rooms. Do they strictly check this?[/QUOTE]Check out Ekomo Home, in D1. It's in a small side street just south of Bui Vien. You can literally walk the alley way into BV. It's currently $24 per night, you won't here any of the clubbing music, and you'll get a key-code to come and go as you please. The owner is fully fluent in English (and pretty good looking, too. Upper 20's maybe, lived in USA before I think).

Also, there's short-time hotels EVERYWHERE in HCM. Throw a rock and you'll hit one.

A hidden spot for FL is in D5, near Cafe 68. Stand on the corner near the Highlands coffee, across from that small park, and just stand there. There will be drive-bt FL on motorbikes (probably within a few minutes) that will stop and ask "boom boom". I've seen hags to fly Viet barbie dolls doing this so YMMV. At the Cafe 68, is like a day / night drinky girl spot for local VN men. I've been there once. Lots of girls working. One will sit with you and you can order a coffee, beer, or coconut and buy her a drink too. They're available for takeout but I think it's up to the girl. Not sure if there's a barfing. My bill for a coconut and a girly drink was like 120,000-150,000 vd. It's not very pricey and they have a few lookers there. Never seen a foreigner there. This is a locals area.

Hi all.

This is a much delayed report from Ho Chi Minh City for a week I spent in end-June; I stayed at Novotel which was very convenient for work, tourism and mongering. First, the scene appears to be much diminished compared to 2018 and 2019, espexcially in relation to VFM mongering and access to BJs and FS in Hot Tocs which seem to be facing numerous crackdowns.

NPK was a reliable venue for BJs with most girls being undressed fully and letting me feel them up fully. Pussy, ass, boobs etc. A coupel of venues in NPK offered FS at 1 million which I passed, but I had several BJs from really nice, petitte, good looking girls for 400 k dong each.

I had three girls for FS but options were very limited; the best of these was a moto girl found from near LE Van Tam Park (NPK and many hot tocs are quite close also an convenient walking distance from Novotel). However many Moto girls were hopeless. Fat or old or both. A report of my FS encounter to follow.

I went for a late dinner in HCMC and then went to NPK right of T-junction between LE Van Phuc and NPK to the second massage BJ place. There were several really good looking girls and I had to choose between two cuties both young, buxom and seemingly enthusiastic. I chose the better looking of the two, we ealked upstairs and went to a booth / small room. She turned the aircon on and gave me a bottle of water. I paid the 400 k and she asked me to undress. Which I did and lay down on the mattress.

She came back and kisses my nipples, chest and then proceeded with a very good BJ. Lots of eye contact, saliva and deep sucking, and she let me feel her boobs, ass and pussy. In fact as I was tring to finger her pussy she put a knee up on the narrow bed, thereby opening up her pussy to me and I could feel her as much as I wanted. Very soon I came and was really satisfied. A smile, hug and squeeze and I was on my way back.

P.S.: I repeated her once more. She was great (can't remember her name). I did ask her to come to my hotel or allow me FS the second time but she refused.

On another evening, after dinner I was walking along LE Van Tam park. In 2019 summer this was full of hookers along the pavements / shops and several moto girls but this time it was really deserted. Anyway. I was soon accosted by an old hooker on a moto asking me to go with her but I didn't fancy her. As I moved on I saw another girl / MILF. Early to mid-30's. Who had a really nice figure, nice hair and nice smile. We agreed FS at 500 including a fee to the love hotel, and I sat behind her on her moto.

She took to a dive hotel closeby and we were given a clean enough room. I showered and then she did also. She then came back the bed and gave me an expert long blowjob with lots of body to body and eye contact. I then put the rubber on and she first rode me, then I fucked her doggy and finally missionary. Using google translate, I managed to get her phone number also for the next day. All in all 500 k well spent with a lovely and affectionate girl who provided top service.

[QUOTE=Trace79;2856885]Check out Ekomo Home, in D1. It's in a small side street just south of Bui Vien. You can literally walk the alley way into BV. It's currently $24 per night, you won't here any of the clubbing music, and you'll get a key-code to come and go as you please. The owner is fully fluent in English (and pretty good looking, too. Upper 20's maybe, lived in USA before I think).

Also, there's short-time hotels EVERYWHERE in HCM. Throw a rock and you'll hit one.

A hidden spot for FL is in D5, near Cafe 68. Stand on the corner near the Highlands coffee, across from that small park, and just stand there. There will be drive-bt FL on motorbikes (probably within a few minutes) that will stop and ask "boom boom". I've seen hags to fly Viet barbie dolls doing this so YMMV. At the Cafe 68, is like a day / night drinky girl spot for local VN men. I've been there once. Lots of girls working. One will sit with you and you can order a coffee, beer, or coconut and buy her a drink too. They're available for takeout but I think it's up to the girl. Not sure if there's a barfing. My bill for a coconut and a girly drink was like 120,000-150,000 vd. It's not very pricey and they have a few lookers there. Never seen a foreigner there. This is a locals area.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the pointers. I'll be sure to check out both.

[QUOTE=Trace79;2856546] three streets running north to south, and about 10 streets running east west. Middle street is called bui bang doan. Just Google Starfit Fitness and yoga, D7. That entire area has FS massage shops littered throughout all those streets. There's at least one on every street and some have a lot more. Lots of restaurants, bars, (normal and drinky girl ones on a certain street,) some clubs, hotels, coffee shops etc. It's actually a nice area that's not chaotic like the rest of HCM. More high end, mostly Korean but a fair amount of western expats there too.[/QUOTE]Just google mapped the area and it looks nice. Very un-HCM like. I'll check it out when I'm in town next. I am assuming the girl bars are more passive Little Japan and Bui Vien style than party Pasteur Street style, right?

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2857322]Just google mapped the area and it looks nice. Very un-HCM like. I'll check it out when I'm in town next. I am assuming the girl bars are more passive Little Japan and Bui Vien style than party Pasteur Street style, right?[/QUOTE]I just got back to HCM yesterday and walked around this area again. I misspoke the first time about the main street I was referring to that had these drinks bars on it. Here's a bit more details.

There's probably a total of 6-8 (ish. Maybe more) of bars with slutty dressed girls outside in this entire neighborhood. There's one street called Khu Pho Hung Gia 4 with two of them on that street (on the side with the Cirkle K on thr corner), and that party street I mentioned in my first post is one street north of this one, and on the opposite side of the Circle K. There's only one of those bars on that one, and two larger Vietnamese local style 'Tiger set' beer bars where there's lots of sexy waitresses standing out in the streets until they get customers. The drinks girl bar on this street is the one they were waving me in, and looked like some hot ones. I did see some good looking ones on that other street on thr circle K side, too.

This neighborhood has more of these bars. Some are underground and kinda hidden, or not that easy to spot, some are ground level. There's a Latin-type bar / club one the first lower side street, near the main road, and some nightclubs here and there and some regular small bars with pool tables in this neighborhood, too.

I can't really compare them to the Pasteur bars because I've never actually been in one. The girls sitting outside usually don't look very good when I walked the area and those misty glass doors make one commit to walk in and I hate doing you-turns and walking right back out. Plus I don't drink anymore or like wasting money on girly drinks when I can just get what I'm after from the massage parlors. I have been to Little Tokyo a while ago and had a great conversation with one smoking hot girl so if I had to say, these girls here look a little bit higher quality and closer to LT. The clientele are mostly Korean but there's plenty of western guys around, too.

As far as the FS massage shops here, there's a lot more than the drinks girl bars, and they're the kind where you walk in and get to see the full line-up right away as the girls are all hanging around, either outside, or inside the lobby. These aren't those FS massage hotels where there's a young buffalo sitting outside and you have to follow him up and elevator or something just to see the girls. I hate those types and avoid them now. These ones are easy to just walk right in and check the merchandise. Many have absolutely hilarious Google reviews too. Just look for massage shops and there's probably only a small handful which are legit and aren't sex shops.

This is a dope little neighborhood, especially to live in. The best Annam Gourmet supermarket in HCM is just across that main large street too. Nice swimming pool in the area. Good place to live and avoid the chaos that is everywhere else in HCM.

There's two type of FS massage parlors it seems in VN.

Went looking for this solid 9 I had at NPK maybe 6 months ago. Been getting duds ever since. In performance mostly. Same thing this time. That hottie was working at the first BJ shop on the east side of the street so I keep going back looking for her. Tried a few girls at this place. Maybe four. Only one was about a 5 in performance.

Today, went again. Same BJ bar. No short hair hottie. I feel she recognized her value and moved to greener pastures. However, I did see a very tall and almost as pretty girl, and this one had nice man-made tits, a pretty face, and spoke English well enough. Unfortunately her BJ skills were shit. She didn't even try to move her lips past the head. I fucking hate BJs like that and this seems to be the overall standard on this street now. Maybe I've just been really unlucky. When I get a dude that's like this, I usually tell them to stop, as I did this time. I'd rather save my load so they don't ruin my orgasm. She took offense and some BS like I'm too big but it was all BS. She just lacked effort and skill. I never once felt teeth.

I got dressed and she's making a big fuss and followed me downstairs. She told me to pick another girl. There was a girl I already had who was another 5 in performance and some old hags so I passed. Paid the captain anyway as I know these places aren't the type to ask for free shit when the customer isn't happy. Only 400 k. Fuck it. BTW, I've found the younger girls 'usually' perform better. The upper 30's, 40's prunes are usually the ones who give those 'only the tip', barely any BJ to speak of.

Anyway, wondered into the 3rd shop, picked an okay looking younger one and thankfully got at least a 5 performance. My bare minimum to cut is a 5 but I'm still pretty disappointed. The am ambiance in the 3rd shop from the east is the best I've found, which isn't saying much. But the aircon already going, 80's music, scented oils at least, lots of girls to choose from.

I think I'm done with NPK though. It's cheap, but it's almost always a bust. I'd rather wack it and save my cash for FS in my D7 neighborhood or just wait for my Bangkok visa runs where the blow job bars actually have consistent 7-8's in performance.

Finding good quality these days isn't easy.

SGN is unbearably hot and humid even in October Once landed I had to take off my my shoes and socks and bought a pair of flip flops, changed into light weight tropical shorts and tank tops.

Bui Vien Walking street in the Back Packers District 1 has lots of bars and restaurants open, playing loud music all night until 5 AM. Bar girls sitting on stools on sidewalk beckoning throng of tourists, some napping on couches.

Street girls were cruising bargaining. Majority of those tall "girls" wear heavy make ups, speak in deep voices and can be aggressive. I was discreetly recording a videos for my wingmen and they turned hostile, shouting at me to stop. Picked up a tall, beautiful, light skin real girl on Bui Vien, agreed on 1. 5 Mil dong or about $60 for ST. In the room she had lots of skin blemishes, also wanted money up front so I dumped her.

There are many escorts web sites listing 20 K+ girls with real pics and tels, some very sweet-looking, primarily for locals, rates from $10 to 80 for ST. They will automatically add foreigner tax to go to Bui Vien. Booked a pretty spinner listing $25 for ST. Her rate went up to $40 just for Bui Vien. She looked very good, just like her pics, nice, clean, sweet, all assets natural, speaking in a soft, sweet voice, very personable. I got a big hardon just looking at her, before she even touched me. We made out a bit. She gave me a very good BBBJ then we went at it in various positions. She was wet, snug, perfect fit, groaning, biting lips, squeezing me tight, pulling me in, bucking her crotch. Insisted I kept pumping nonstop until she popped hehe. It was a hot, satisfying session and I would do her again.

Lots of moto taxis hang around all day all night, suggesting massage places. One drove me at 3 AM to couple places in District 1 in heavy traffic nearly got run over. The largest massage isd Kim Cuong, 35 Cao Ba Nha. They have 4 deals, starting $25 for half hour massage with clothes on, to $50,90 min VIP package with clothes off, girls would do everything asked. I was the only guy there. Looked like they do very little business, said they always have 20+ girl any time of the day, but rustled up 4 for me, looking sleepy and tired, not attractive. I turned them down to come back for a better selection.

Another massage is a small hotel at 142 Bui Thi Xuan, couple old guys sitting out out front. They were rounding up the girls but I did not like the set up so just left. Overall the massages are tightly controlled with older, less attractive girls who would incessantly nag for tips, which turn me off.

The 20 K+ escorts in many web sites are more real and attractive. Search under "gai goi" and use Translate to decipher the cryptic reviews.

[URL]https://gaigu10.tv/gai-goi/17009/LINH-LY-CO-BE-XINH-XAN[/URL], -LOLI,-NGOAN-HIEN,-DE-THUONG. #preview-1.

I'm seeing reports of people paying $50-100 for full service is this for real or are there any no frills 6-8/10 for like $30.

Most of my experience is in Latam.

For quick sure fire action, Take $2 Grab Taxi to hotel Hoang Thien Loc, 199 Hoang Hoa Tham, P13, Q Tan Binh, near TSN airport.

This area has the largest population of on line escorts working in that hotel, about 500 K the or $15 for ST, 2 M the or $60 all night, negotiable.

There are police stations and military barracks on that street so pretty safe.

[QUOTE=Trace79;2856546]I haven't seen this area mentioned before, and D7 seems rarely mentioned at all, but I live in D7 and there's this 'mostly' Korean area with tons of full service 'massage' shops. There has to be at least 20 in this neighborhood and some of them have some smoking hot Viet girls. I tried one out. Was 1. 8 m for FS. Pretty decent massage. BBBJ with covered FS. I had an apartment above one of these places for a bit. Was funny walking by and waving to the girls every day. Vietnam is a trip.

Anyway, this area is a tucked away neighborhood with three streets running north to south, and about 10 streets running east west. Middle street is called bui bang doan. Just Google Starfit Fitness and yoga, D7. That entire area has FS massage shops littered throughout all those streets. There's at least one on every street and some have a lot more. Lots of restaurants, bars, (normal and drinky girl ones on a certain street,) some clubs, hotels, coffee shops etc. It's actually a nice area that's not chaotic like the rest of HCM. More high end, mostly Korean but a fair amount of western expats there too.

Worth checking out and something different from Bui Vien or Pasteur st, or NPK BJ street.[/QUOTE]This report I find very interesting. It almost seems like one of those Facebook "flashbacks", which revives a post to reminisce about years past-- in my case, the above description fits very closely to that area's MO about 5-7 years ago probably. There was one street in particular that must've had 10 spas on it, and they weren't too shy about calling on passers-by to come have a look. Don't know the names of those streets, as every street kinda looks the same in PMH. Anyway, I did have a couple memorable experiences there, but it all vanished one year under some sort of district 7 house-cleaning campaign. That most active street was completed revamped and now has schools and restaurants I believe. But I always suspected the action had just moved 'underground', and if one happened to speak Korean, the cats would come tumbling out of the bag! LOL.

That was all pre-2020. A year ago, IIRC, I found myself in that area with some time to kill, so I decided to moto around and look for clues. I did find a few spas open, but without obvious girls in the lobby looking sexy. There was one young hottie who caught my eye, but on further inquiry, she insisted she was only the hostess and that the real staff wouldn't be in until later.

(this must've been around lunchtime). In short, it wasn't like it used to be -- although there were a few spas (not more than 5-6 that day) -- they weren't run in the same way as they had been, and I just remember being put off by them overall. Mainly I think I didn't partake because a couple of the places most likely to be FS refused to provide a lineup or any preview at all. That was one red flag too much for that day, and I went back to the center to hit a more reliable establishment.

Hopefully, we will get some more reports from this area.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2859910]For quick sure fire action, Take $2 Grab Taxi to hotel Hoang Thien Loc, 199 Hoang Hoa Tham, P13, Q Tan Binh, near TSN airport.

This area has the largest population of on line escorts working in that hotel, about 500 K the or $15 for ST, 2 M the or $60 all night, negotiable.

There are police stations and military barracks on that street so pretty safe.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the tip Captain! What's the procedure for seeing who's available at the hotel? Thanks in advance.

Will be in HCM next week, have been checking gaito, but I have difficulty reaching the girls through my US phone, I am still in the US, will it be easier once I get there?

Should I get a local Sim?

Have also connected with some girls, through Telegraph, but some have asked for money up front to join some kind of club, I assume this is a scam, any Intel on that?

Any other channels to reach out to girls?

[QUOTE=Flyer1999;2860993]Will be in HCM next week, have been checking gaito, but I have difficulty reaching the girls through my US phone, I am still in the US, will it be easier once I get there?

Should I get a local Sim?

Have also connected with some girls, through Telegraph, but some have asked for money up front to join some kind of club, I assume this is a scam, any Intel on that?

Any other channels to reach out to girls?[/QUOTE]Looking through your posts you have had a lot of questions about numerous countries since 2011, have you nothing to report?

[QUOTE=Jingo10;2861013]Looking through your posts you have had a lot of questions about numerous countries since 2011, have you nothing to report?[/QUOTE]Very helpful, thank you.

Search under "GAI GOI" you will find quite a few sites listing more then 20 K girls working in hotels and outcalls in all districts in HCMC, also Hanoi and other major cities. These sites may be busted by the government but they usually come back with the same contents by different site names.

GAIGU10. TV worked for me then, but sometimes it blocks IPs for security. There are many more sites like it, so look around and try them out.

I was in HCMC a week and pulled 6 girls, all nice, clean, young early 20's, pretty, looked good, smelled good, felt good. They were all Northern girls, young, slim, sweet, pretty spinners, my exact type, fucked my brains out, gave me lots of passion, except the last night a mid 30's Southern girl slightly thick with fake pics, did not give me as much passion. Tsndard service is DFK, BBBJ and CFS. Going rates vary from d400 K ($15) to d2 M ($80) for the top stars. Fuck hotels charge d50 K to d100 K for 2 hours ($2-4).

In my experience prices do not correlate with looks, class or service, mostly based on how long the girls have been in business and have regular customers who would pay high fees. Girls charging low fees usually come from the outlying provinces, new to the business, young, fresh, soft, passionate.

A wingman is currently in HCMC, speaking no Vietnamese, booked a few girls from this site, said his sessions were mediocre. I suggest upon meeting the girls, treat them lovingly like babies. These girls are young, soft and not hardened. They have a lot of fear for the outside world. Even without communicating in languages, loving, caring gestures and feelings are understood and appreciated.

Here are the few pics of girls in DAIGU10. TV I actually bagged in HCMC this month. The girls are very conservative and would not allow me taking pics.

My wingman is currently in HCMC and posts about his trip in this forum. You can figure out who he is. If he can do it, you can do it.

Japan Town, besides having very good Japanese food, has lots of good Massage places similar to what one will find in Bangkok like on Soi 24 area with the opportunity of very happy ending. This is the part of Ho Chi Minh City most similar to this relaxing / enjoyable aspect of Bangkok, but it is in Japan Town where you can get a nice Ramen soup or Japanese Barbacue, after going for a nice massage. A good hotel to stay here is known as the Sunflower Hotel.

You can choose who you want that and is the tough part with lots of choices of ladies. Make sure that consult with the mamasan first as to the extent of the services for girls. Prices are 500,000 Dong for a 1 hour massage, and once you are in the room, depending on what happy ending you want & what the girl is willing to offer after you enter the room, you are looking at about 2,000,000 Dong extra, and may be some more if the girl wants that tip. Japan Town is very safe to walk around. One massage place is Cherry linh, but there are others in Japan town as well. Just be aware. If you are there to just have the delicious Japanese food, do NOT look at the girls. Once they know that you are on the hunt, the Vietnamese lady's are aggressive, but that is part of their charm.

There also charming whiskey bars where you can talk to the hostess, buy drinks, and perhaps get another happy ending if she agrees.

Bigstud.

Normally guys would book appointments with the girls via texts, show up at their hotels, get a ST room for 2 hours (d 50 K to 100 K), text the girls room number. They live on those hotels and usually show up in 5 , 10 minutes. They know my friends and I were foreigners via texts and voices, but had no problem meeting us.

Usually a couple girls would live in the same hotels. You can ask them to bring in their friends. I popped 2 girls in the same room at Hoang Thien Long. While I was waiting for Grab car to go back, another even hotter girl came out trying to entice me to another session. Availability of hot girls looked good. I wish I had more ammo. Hotel reception will deny any knowledge of paid sex in their places, at least with strangers, so don't bother asking. Just network with the girls. If they like you they will give you their personal numbers for private sessions without paying the agencies, nights out. Most girls are young, from distant and isolated towns, terrified of the big cities around them.

I think this street has many fuck hotels with girls due to a large military barrack across the street with lots of young soldiers. It's a busy street with military presence and many restaurants, food stalls so should be safer than other areas.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2868738]Bigstud.

Normally guys would book appointments with the girls via texts, show up at their hotels, get a ST room for 2 hours (d 50 K to 100 K), text the girls room number. They live on those hotels and usually show up in 5 , 10 minutes. They know my friends and I were foreigners via texts and voices, but had no problem meeting us.

Usually a couple girls would live in the same hotels. You can ask them to bring in their friends. I popped 2 girls in the same room at Hoang Thien Long. While I was waiting for Grab car to go back, another even hotter girl came out trying to entice me to another session. Availability of hot girls looked good. I wish I had more ammo. Hotel reception will deny any knowledge of paid sex in their places, at least with strangers, so don't bother asking. Just network with the girls. If they like you they will give you their personal numbers for private sessions without paying the agencies, nights out. Most girls are young, from distant and isolated towns, terrified of the big cities around them.

I think this street has many fuck hotels with girls due to a large military barrack across the street with lots of young soldiers. It's a busy street with military presence and many restaurants, food stalls so should be safer than other areas.[/QUOTE]Thanks for sharing this intel! Will give it a try next time I'm in town. Sounds like a good (and cheaper) alternative to Linh Cherry! Which website (s) have you been using to check out the available girls? Thanks again!

Read my previous posts.

Hey Guys,

Have been inactive on the boards for a long time, but wanted to post while info fresh and also relevant to some current threads here. Posting in the General thread for my own convenience, even though info applies to Massage, Bar, and Hot Toc threads.

Of course not every monger has the same budget or wants, so the editorializing here might help you decide if my info is useful in your case. I will say that outside of the offerings catering to foreigners, the vast majority of the scene here is local, and I didn't feel like I personally was pushing up prices, which have increased post-pandemic. Sai Gon now has the full spectrum of Vietnamese dudes, not just Koreans and other outsiders, with money and places for them to spend it.

I tend to use Airbnb in SE Asia and not have to deal with hotel policies, plus get more space and privacy for less money. There's a lot to be said for getting a second cheap pad to avoid security issues too, but I didn't do that because I didn't plan on bringing anyone I didn't trust and didn't want to spend the money anyway.

With Google Translate, which is actually pretty good at voice conversations now, I can stay away from the Bui Vien scene and LINE ripoffs pretty much as much as I want.

Usually I find that unlike in Cambodia, Viet girls care about using covers for FS when working, though not necessarily when dating.

DAY 1.

Hot Toc.

Years ago I found a hot toc based on some old posts from like 2018 or 2019. I think it was in the 200 k range then, and I got a BJ from a decent-looking middle-aged 6. This time we were in early 30's 5 territory, and the price was 300 k at like 1:00 am. She was more hand pumping than sucking, and she didn't want to really use her mouth, so I just bounced and went to another place. Girl at second place was in her 20's and same deal with not liking BJs. First place much cleaner than the second, with both priced at 300 k and both offering FS for 500 k more.

Even though they're not lookers, I do like a cheap BJ and while NPK grannies might be better at sucking, I just like getting into the neighborhoods and the fuglies cost less. I did actually go back to the first place a few nights later and pulled another 5, this one very friendly once we got talking through Google Translate. This place is just south of Cau Phy My on Huynh Tan Phat in D7 - can't miss the tout sitting by the lighted signs.

Bunny Bar.

Actually did go up to Bui Vien. Most girls just sitting around as usual, with a few hellos. The ones in front of Bunny Bar all got up and grabbed me though, smiling and laughing. Reminded me of some places in the old days. I decided what the hell, and bought a bunch of lady drinks. They tried to pad the bill, but I talked to the manager about what and how many had been ordered. This bar's lady drinks are more expensive than nearby bars to begin with, so just be aware. But they also kiss and grind and grab your dick, unlike at some of the dead places on Pasteur.

By the way, there was a drunk Limey next door who was so upset at whatever they'd done to him that he was pushing some girl and guy around, even following them down the street kind of hitting them, and not taking the taxi he'd asked them to call. Eventually they brought over two big guys and I hope he calmed down. Bro, even if you were wronged, this isn't your country.

DAY 2.

Gai Goi.

Googled some gai goi websites and used 06-13-15 LudwigVb post #46 and Commonglass post #246 in Finding Girls Online thread to make appointment attempts. Very useful guides on how to text, so thanks guys! It was a little bit of a numbers game, because my shitty SIM card wasn't smooth for texts, but some of the numbers were tied to Zalo so I could use that.

Eventually found a girl in D8 for 300 k, and she turned out to be an 8. 5 in looks, a spinner with a good-looking face, long hair, and pert fake tits. Photos were actually her though heavily altered. The posted video was more accurate. Hotel was 100 k. I gave her a 100 k tip, though she at first refused it. I actually ended up seeing her the next few days, because she had such a non-shit attitude compared to so many of the other online girls. YMMV with these things. My advice is try a bunch, and make sure to get Zalo info for those who are good.

Massage.

Noticed online info about girls in D9 hotels clustered around the Man Thien, so went over there. None of the D9 girls replied to my texts, but there was a lot of good seafood on that street and a place called Massage Samdi. They were so busy they couldn't take me, so I walked up the street another 1:00 am place, this one 500 k ticket, plus 500 k to the girl, so 1 M total. Was taken to room with steam sauna and tub. Girl with very tan, soft skin, very pretty face, tattoos, and verrry thicc ass and thighs did the BJ / HJ /69 routine, was down for FS or hotel but I didn't want to pay more.

DAY 3.

Changed currency at the place by the western entrance of Benh Thanh Market and on a whim got painfully waxed at a spa on the southern side of the street, maybe Alison, for about 400 k. Turned out every girl I met in Vietnam after this thought it was super-cool.

Massage.

Walking down the street after my hotel girl and some random lunch, I saw the photos of a nearby massage place on Google Maps. Its options started at 1. 8 M and went up to 6 M+. Same sauna / BJ / HJ /69 routine as other massage places, but the room was more upscale and the spinner was a 9. She offered FS for an additional 4 M.

Went back to Samdi to try again. Met a local guy who let me know that these massage places aren't typically FS, and that there is a big concentration in D10. Samdi was nicer than than the 1 M place last night. Sauna / BJ / HJ /69 was 1. 2 M. Girl was skilled at BJ, but not down for FS. The place was very busy again.

DAY 4.

Massage.

Decided to try D10 massage. Google Mapped some photos of places and settled on Massage Dubai (on Google Maps as Massage P. A Relax) because it had bondage gear in some photos. I'm not into bondage, but I was curious what a place with it in Vietnam would be like. Turns out that particular room is way more expensive so I didn't take it, but stayed anyway for 1. 8 M. Sauna / BJ / HJ, this girl a 7 but very skilled at BJ, but definitely not down for FS. Nuru gel wasn't heated, but I survived.

Hotel girl and hot toc closed out the run. Too tired to make more effort after chatting with some non-pros I know and pros I don't on apps.

As usual, repeat sessions with same provider produced better results, and repeats at same venue may produce discount. As you can see, I mostly went with massages because they required the least effort and I basically knew what I was walking into. I'd spend more time on Gai Goi if I could, to find a rotation of gems, but for short-term with customer service accountability, massage programs provided what I wanted.

Thanks to the various posters who provided information that helped me, such as:

Finding Girls Online.

LukeSkywalker post #151.

GypsieKing post #221.

NguyetLang post #267.

LetThemEatSake post #317.

BlueBaron post #326.

Raverboy post #404.

Locations of Hot Tocs.

Rick Rock post #811.

MutantChicken post #911.

FredFun post #920.

Ho Chi Minh City General Info.

MonkeyPaw post #4384.

TakingChances post #4393.

DandyMan post #4842.

UngaBang post #4909.

And many more!

For guys looking to book girls online to their hotels in HCMC:

Stay at hotel A25 on Pham Ngu Lao. They let all girls in, no question. A few bar girls live in that hotel.

Book girls from this site in District 1. Most would go to your hotel with a little surcharge:

[URL]https://www.gaito.is/gai-goi/khu-vuc...%E1%BA%ADn%201[/URL]

[QUOTE=ItinerHan;2870321]By the way, there was a drunk Limey next door who was so upset at whatever they'd done to him that he was pushing some girl and guy around, even following them down the street kind of hitting them, and not taking the taxi he'd asked them to call. Eventually they brought over two big guys and I hope he calmed down. Bro, even if you were wronged, this isn't your country.[/QUOTE]Actually, if you're wronged and act like an obnoxious drunk, this is OUR country. Try acting like that (what you described) in Thailand, and I believe that guy would have gotten his ass kicked.

IMO, Vietnam is one of the safest countries in the world. One of the good things about having a strict government who cares about the tourist.

Not sure if this still applies. About 15 or 20 years ago, a Viet Kieu told me that the rip-off Viets are scared if the police get involved. It's because the police know they are rip-offs, and the police will be strict against them.

BTW, good overall report.

Hi fellas,

I'll be visiting Vietnam next month and looking forward to visit HCMC for mongering. But based on overall research on this forum, I'm realizing that most places, it will be a very quick, short time affair and may not be GFE. I didn't come across any report about whole night stays and multiple sessions. Can anyone give information on this? What's the best way for a overnight stay and quality time with a lot of foreplay & maybe multiple (2-3) sessions? Those websites, or hot tocs? Or Line? Or somewhere else?

[QUOTE=JitenS;2875327]Hi fellas,

I'll be visiting Vietnam next month and looking forward to visit HCMC for mongering. But based on overall research on this forum, I'm realizing that most places, it will be a very quick, short time affair and may not be GFE. I didn't come across any report about whole night stays and multiple sessions. Can anyone give information on this? What's the best way for a overnight stay and quality time with a lot of foreplay & maybe multiple (2-3) sessions? Those websites, or hot tocs? Or Line? Or somewhere else?[/QUOTE]I am also interested with how to get the gaito girls to stay longer than 30-40 minutes. I presume if they like you they may stay longer for additional VND?

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2874988]For guys looking to book girls online to their hotels in HCMC:

Stay at hotel A25 on Pham Ngu Lao. They let all girls in, no question. A few bar girls live in that hotel.

Book girls from this site in District 1. Most would go to your hotel with a little surcharge:

[URL]https://www.gaito.is/gai-goi/khu-vuc...%E1%BA%ADn%201[/URL][/QUOTE]Hello sir, you said message them. IS this on regular cell or is there an App these girls use here? HOw easy it is to get a vietnamese sim after I land or can I use my US number?

They post the girls' tel number. Add country code + 84. US or any tel can text to those numbers.

Better to get a SIM card at the airport, only VNd 50 K or $2, but test it, TEXT to the seller phone on the spot to make sure it works.

I used my US tel with Translate, sometimes I called them direct. The girls do answer their own phones. All appointments were made quickly for my preferred time. Looks like the girls don't do much business, just wait around all day, all night and are glad to have your money.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2878597]They post the girls' tel number. Add country code + 84. US or any tel can text to those numbers.

Better to get a SIM card at the airport, only VNd 50 K or $2, but test it, TEXT to the seller phone on the spot to make sure it works.

I used my US tel with Translate, sometimes I called them direct. The girls do answer their own phones. All appointments were made quickly for my preferred time. Looks like the girls don't do much business, just wait around all day, all night and are glad to have your money.[/QUOTE]I've hobbied in many countries (Mexico, Japan, Thailand, Cambodia) and have used Line, Whatsapp and Wechat. I understand VN girls don't use any messaging apps. Would they reply to a text from a foreign number?

They did to me and a wingman with US numbers.

Even when I used VN SIM and Translate the girls would quickly figure it was a foreigner or but had no hesitance.

[QUOTE=Vendelo;2878713]I've hobbied in many countries (Mexico, Japan, Thailand, Cambodia) and have used Line, Whatsapp and Wechat. I understand VN girls don't use any messaging apps. Would they reply to a text from a foreign number?[/QUOTE]Of course girls use messaging apps in VN, Zalo is very popular, WhatsApp & telegram are also used.

Zalo who is nearby feature is disabled in HCMC but work in other areas.

SIM cards are easily obtained, I use a little shop at the end of backpackers street and turn left.

Hey mates,

I have been into mongering in Delhi, India and it's my first time in Vietnam. Not sure about the safe places or safe approach. I understand gaigoi is a better way, but I am unable to understand much there.

Will be thankful if any friend can help me and share some indie contact details.

If anyone is in HCMC now, please let me know.

Thanks and cheers.

Have fun.

Use Google Translate to understand the ads and contents.

They use slangs and codes, but you should be able to understand.

Most would welcome foreigners. If not try others among tes thousands listed.

In bed a pretty girl complained my asset was too big and quickly.

Swapped for her friend who had no problem.

Pics are accurate. The farther away from district 1, girls are prettier and deals get better. This is the best and easiest way to quickly access nice, fresh, pretty girls with potential GFEs, not old, hardened, jaded, expensive bar girls.

[QUOTE=Vendelo;2878713]I understand VN girls don't use any messaging apps. [/QUOTE]Every girl uses Zalo. They're all happy to give you their Zalo so you can like their photos.

On line has been primarily for locals. I did not see any guys at the girls hotels, so their business is slow.

Girls in District 1 are usually older, not very hot, but have more experienced dealing with foreigners, so they charge more money, like Vnd 2 M or $80ST.

Quynh Vy in these pics wants only Vnd 600 K or $24 for ST. Her profile says "foreigners with big dicks pay 200 K ($8) extra. " So she will deal with foreigners. Show her your tiny dicks so you don't have to pay surcharge hehe.

Quynh Vy.

+84 081.826. 2199.

Lý Tự Trọng ST Quậand 1.

District 8 and 10 list about 10,000 girls, only 3 to 5 miles from Central HCMC. Hot fresh young girls go for Vnd 200 K to 500 K max.

[URL]https://www.gaito.is/gai-goi/khu-vuc/H%E1%BB%93%20Ch%C3%AD%20Minh/Qu%E1%BA%ADn%201[/URL]

[QUOTE=MemeLord1990;2878846]Hey mates,

I have been into mongering in Delhi, India and it's my first time in Vietnam. Not sure about the safe places or safe approach. I understand gaigoi is a better way, but I am unable to understand much there.

Will be thankful if any friend can help me and share some indie contact details.

If anyone is in HCMC now, please let me know.

Thanks and cheers.

Have fun.[/QUOTE]RTFF: read the last 100 pages like I have then return and ask a question.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2878597]They post the girls' tel number. Add country code + 84. US or any tel can text to those numbers.

Better to get a SIM card at the airport, only VNd 50 K or $2, but test it, TEXT to the seller phone on the spot to make sure it works.

I used my US tel with Translate, sometimes I called them direct. The girls do answer their own phones. All appointments were made quickly for my preferred time. Looks like the girls don't do much business, just wait around all day, all night and are glad to have your money.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Much. If I order 2 of them will they play with each other? I want to have a three some, It seems Vietnam is the only place I can afford.

According to a local guide, Saigon Central Park (Cong Vien 23 Thang 8) is a hang out at night for illegal Africans. They have been known for robbing tourists, snatching purses, phones, cameras.

It's across the street from 167 Pham Ngu Lao St, not a good idea to cross that park to the other side by yourself late at night. However local middle-aged women have been known to come to that park to have sex with the Africans in the Bush.

If you don't mind the age, women are available for free sex. But a lot of unattached Euro female tourists are also around that area, some young and very attractive. I was able to make quick "friends" with a few in bars or just sitting on sidewalk drinking beers. Good luck!

Bad idea to wander into narrow, filthy alleys around Bui Vien back packers district, known for drugs dealing, criminals and lots of dog shit every where. Disgusting!

-also is popular and has a nearby function too so you scan contact and view etc.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2880436]According to a local guide, Saigon Central Park (Cong Vien 23 Thang 8) is a hang out at night for illegal Africans. They have been known for robbing tourists, snatching purses, phones, cameras.

It's across the street from 167 Pham Ngu Lao St, not a good idea to cross that park to the other side by yourself late at night. However local middle-aged women have been known to come to that park to have sex with the Africans in the Bush.

If you don't mind the age, women are available for free sex. But a lot of unattached Euro female tourists are also around that area, some young and very attractive. I was able to make quick "friends" with a few in bars or just sitting on sidewalk drinking beers. Good luck!

Bad idea to wander into narrow, filthy alleys around Bui Vien back packers district, known for drugs dealing, criminals and lots of dog shit every where. Disgusting![/QUOTE]Geneva, Tokyo, HK, Phnom Penh, etc. , sketchy Africans come out at night. WTF do they do during the day? And how do they avoid getting sent home?

[QUOTE=MemeLord1990;2878846]Hey mates,

I have been into mongering in Delhi, India and it's my first time in Vietnam. Not sure about the safe places or safe approach. I understand gaigoi is a better way, but I am unable to understand much there.

Will be thankful if any friend can help me and share some indie contact details.

If anyone is in HCMC now, please let me know.

Thanks and cheers.

Have fun.[/QUOTE]Are you still in HCMC? I am Indian but coming to VN from 2013, I can brief you what to do and what not to. I have regular girls who are friends. I involve cash / gifts to avoid missing feelings.

I took a ticket to Thailand 2 months and I am mainly looking for hookups. I'm 21, American average looking and I don't mind paying. Where do you think I could get the most for my money? I was thinking of going to Pattaya and dating some girls but considering the prices in Vietnam I might be better off paying directly and not wasting my time.

[URL]https://thiendia1.cc/diendan/threads/neko-massage-29-de-la-thanh-tuyet-dinh-massage-ha-noi.1185286/[/URL]

Neko Massage 29 De La Thanh campus is the first establishment of our Neko Massage chain, the business motto since the opening of that shop is PRICE must be standard. SERVICE must be classy, so those who have experienced at our facility are very assured to introduce to partners, friends.

Highlights of the facility: - Staff:

Many beautiful young girls for you to choose from, all 3 domains, super service, including Quail Egg Stone, Shovel Baby Fuel Tank, 69, pluck herd, both BJ, HJ, cow ants, Nuru essential oil. In addition, the children also have regular health check-ups, so they can rest assured to have fun coming to the wharf.

- Cost: Publicize the fare. Tip, no surcharge outside the menu, no need to spend more money for the receptionist, staff to choose beautiful girls, choose and change staff comfortably, until the doctors are satisfied.

- Location: City center, 2 fronts (De La Thanh and O Cho Dua), with car parking. After entering the lobby, the brothers told the receptionist to lead to the 4th floor to enter Neko's headquarters.

- CSVC: Japanese style, luxury, sophistication targeting the high-end massage experience segment Service packages (with price list).

- VIP package (Ticket: 600 k -.

[URL]https://thiendia1.cc/diendan/threads/massage-quang-thu-ly-thuong-kiet-giam-gia-con-500k-trong-90-ngay.1314772/[/URL]

The pics show a fancy facility with many hot girls.

Translate with text in image mode, they say reduced price packages 500 K 70 minutes full Nuru massage with 1 girls, 1 shot 600 K, 90 minutes 1 girl 2 shots, all include KTV with naked hostesses 69 OK.

Yummy!

Quang Thu Massage 324/11 Ly Thuong Kiet, District 10.

Only 3 miles or so from central Saigon.

Saigon QUANG THU MASSAGE.

342/11 LY THUONG KIET. Dist 10.

DISCOUNT TO 500 K 60 nuru inclu 1 shot also full nude KTV 69 anything goes.

Pics show lots of hot girls. Very good value.

[QUOTE=PabloGn;2881831]I took a ticket to Thailand 2 months and I am mainly looking for hookups. I'm 21, American average looking and I don't mind paying. Where do you think I could get the most for my money? I was thinking of going to Pattaya and dating some girls but considering the prices in Vietnam I might be better off paying directly and not wasting my time.[/QUOTE]You're too young to be paying. Leave this hobby to the old guys!

I plan to stay for 10 days in HCMC in January and will try this Gai goi like recommended.

Is hotel A25 Pham Ngu Lao a good place to stay or there are better options with my plan behind?

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2874988]For guys looking to book girls online to their hotels in HCMC:

Stay at hotel A25 on Pham Ngu Lao. They let all girls in, no question. A few bar girls live in that hotel.

Book girls from this site in District 1. Most would go to your hotel with a little surcharge:

[URL]https://www.gaito.is/gai-goi/khu-vuc...%E1%BA%ADn%201[/URL][/QUOTE]In around two weeks I stay at HCMC for 11 days and will try this Gai Goi with girls online.

Is hotel A25 in Pham Ngu Lao a good place to follow my plan or there are better options?

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Khanom;2882610]I plan to stay for 10 days in HCMC in January and will try this Gai goi like recommended.

Is hotel A25 Pham Ngu Lao a good place to stay or there are better options with my plan behind?[/QUOTE]Many girls on gaito have reviews. The reviewers often post unedited pics of the girls. As you probably know, girls on gaito have their skin and buttholes lightened.

I replied to a few posts but the mods are very judicious aiming to steer people to subscribe so they can use PM.

I found using PMs with the bros on the road can bring you better chances to have more fun, save time and money, also avoid potential dangers.

3 star, about $20 a night incl free breakfast. A25 is a chain with 6 or 7 locations around Central Park.

167 Pham Ngu Lao is the best spot as all city and tour buses stop in front of it. Many Euro girls drink and wait there, so you may be lucky.

Also A25 seems to be tight with local officials so they openly accommodates sex workers. Even during crack down time 20 years ago, I found hot girls sitting in their lobby on bui this xuan, asking me what I wanted hehe.

You can try hotel Liberty a few doors South 4 Star, but it's family oriented, you may have problems bringing girls in.

I searched already how to subscribe here but I found it complicated. My technical understanding is not good, I am not even able to translate the Gai goi reports e. t. c.

The facts I read here about hotel A25 let me think over. Tour buses and groups of young Europeans are not really my environment if I can choice.

Most Gai goi girls I will meet at hourly hotels near the area where the girls live, that's at least how I understand it.

Isn't common that the girls come to the hotel? To chat or call the girls will be also kind of difficult I guess, just hope the best.

[QUOTE=Khanom;2883267]I searched already how to subscribe here but I found it complicated. My technical understanding is not good, I am not even able to translate the Gai goi reports e. t. c.

The facts I read here about hotel A25 let me think over. Tour buses and groups of young Europeans are not really my environment if I can choice.

Most Gai goi girls I will meet at hourly hotels near the area where the girls live, that's at least how I understand it.

Isn't common that the girls come to the hotel? To chat or call the girls will be also kind of difficult I guess, just hope the best.[/QUOTE]Use google translator, either the app or online. If you can't use google to translate, then there's no hope for you.

Check the reviews of the gaito girls. Many reviewers post screenshots of their texts between themselves and the girls, which you can translate thereby giving you the knowledge on how / where you meet girls.

I'm in an Airbnb in Japan Town. There seems to be a police (although I'm not 100% sure they are regular police) outpost that has a direct line of sight on the stairs that lead to the front entrance of the building where I'm staying.

If police (or whoever they are) saw me going into the building with a Vietnamese girl. Would that be a problem? They don't see the door itself just the stairs, but it's obvious that they lead into the building.

Also, are there any short time rooms around Japan town that are safe to use?

Hi guys,

It has been 10 years since my last visit to HCM. Do they still have the BJ bars / hot tocs like Benny's? What is the going rate? Also going Vung Tau for 2 nights. Thanks for any replies and forgive my research laziness. I'm not getting any younger!

Spent a few weeks in HCMC a few months ago. I stayed on Bui Vien Street and loved it. Yeah, it's full of tourists, but damn sure full of eye candy as well. You should have no problem having fun there until the wee hours. I stayed at the NU Hotel at the east end of the street after trying a few others in the area. NU Hotel is clean, relatively quiet (ask for a high floor) and affordable (I booked using [URL]Agoda.com[/URL]) and for me the location was perfect. All the craziness of Bui Vien street in one direction and a short walk to Takeshimaya Mall and western food / shopping in the other direction. There are plenty of massage shops all up and down Bui Vien Street as well. Priced for tourists but you can certainly negotiate. Crazy Night club with its open front was the highlight of my stay. It's not a girly / bar fine club at all, just a regular club, but there are plenty of freelancers roaming around there any given evening / night and tons of tourist girls there as well looking for a good time (think Khao Sahn Road in BKK). The cute waitresses seem to be available too. One of them insisted I take her contact info and I did, but never met up with her even though she was obviously willing. Ignore the irritating food hawkers on Bui Vien and instead explore the side roads for better food and better deals. The two side roads closest to NU Hotel offered the best variety and prices in my opinion. There are quite a few go-go clubs and other clubs on Bui Vien St. As well but I only went in those to look around, not partake. Regarding the blowjob venues on NPK Street, those are indeed a fun option but I believe you need to be there early as they all shut down around midnight or so and you need a Grab ride to get there. The girly bars on Pasteur Street are walkable from Bui Vien Street if you're in decent shape, but I never partook. They all reeked of 100% ripoff venues. My (freebie) body count for my two week stay on Bui Vien: one late-20's Indonesian tourist chick met while we were both getting food at the Indo restaurant there: a hot late-20's Irish chick met at Crazy Nights: two separate young waitresses from two of the bigger restos on the street: one horny 20 yo Viet chick met at 7-11 on BV Street. Could've done more but I'm old and lazy now. Also, don't forget you need to arrange a visa in advance online, or you won't get in. I got mine here: Vietnam E-visa.

Vietnam Electronic Visa.

Vietnam e-Visa for Foreigner If you apply in advance, they're as affordable and reliable as any other service I found. I've used them twice with no issues. ALSO, download and use the Grab app for rides and food deliveries. Ignore the pushy a-hole taxi drivers.

[QUOTE=Obstenku;2885108]I'm in an Airbnb in Japan Town. There seems to be a police (although I'm not 100% sure they are regular police) outpost that has a direct line of sight on the stairs that lead to the front entrance of the building where I'm staying.

If police (or whoever they are) saw me going into the building with a Vietnamese girl. Would that be a problem? They don't see the door itself just the stairs, but it's obvious that they lead into the building.

Also, are there any short time rooms around Japan town that are safe to use?[/QUOTE]Linh Cherry Massage is near Japan Town. The girls will look after you!

[QUOTE=GaijinGigolo;2885186]Spent a few weeks in HCMC a few months ago. I stayed on Bui Vien Street and loved it. Yeah, it's full of tourists, but damn sure full of eye candy as well. You should have no problem having fun there until the wee hours. I stayed at the NU Hotel at the east end of the street after trying a few others in the area. NU Hotel is clean, relatively quiet (ask for a high floor) and affordable (I booked using [URL]Agoda.com[/URL])[/QUOTE]Does the NU hotel permit Vietnam girls in to the rooms?

NK.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2882280][URL]https://thiendia1.cc/diendan/threads/massage-quang-thu-ly-thuong-kiet-giam-gia-con-500k-trong-90-ngay.1314772/[/URL]

The pics show a fancy facility with many hot girls.

Translate with text in image mode, they say reduced price packages 500 K 70 minutes full Nuru massage with 1 girls, 1 shot 600 K, 90 minutes 1 girl 2 shots, all include KTV with naked hostesses 69 OK.

Yummy!

Quang Thu Massage 324/11 Ly Thuong Kiet, District 10.

Only 3 miles or so from central Saigon.[/QUOTE]Wow! Have you been? In case, the girls are reallly like the pictures? How old are really they?

In town for a few hours on the 14th, any quick escort / civvie pointers welcome.

That is mid day on Sunday.

So far my plan is to hang out at a downtown cafe and see what happens.

PMs would be fine. TIA!

[QUOTE=LionKing777;2885397]Does the NU hotel permit Vietnam girls in to the rooms?

NK.[/QUOTE]Yes, as long as the girl has a valid ID and you registered for two.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2878597]They post the girls' tel number. Add country code + 84. US or any tel can text to those numbers.

Better to get a SIM card at the airport, only VNd 50 K or $2, but test it, TEXT to the seller phone on the spot to make sure it works.

I used my US tel with Translate, sometimes I called them direct. The girls do answer their own phones. All appointments were made quickly for my preferred time. Looks like the girls don't do much business, just wait around all day, all night and are glad to have your money.[/QUOTE]Nice to see you here in this thread, thought you only stayed in Tijuana.

I heard the gaito girls are like robots, is the sex mechanical?

[QUOTE=GiovanniVolo;2885412]Wow! Have you been? In case, the girls are reallly like the pictures? How old are really they?[/QUOTE]Wow! The translation says. Nice to relieve stress!! The Massage Facility is located on "Convenience" street of District 10. With many pubs, cafes and karaoke bars, it is an ideal gathering place for friends, where you can conveniently stop by for a massage to "relieve stress".

YMMV, depending on how much chemistry the girls have with you.

Most have been very responsive and expressive with me in bed. I am not young or good-looking, but I treat these pretty spinners lovingly. They love loving and caring gestures and respond in kind. I have not run into any girl here as cold, rude and mercenary as in US or Mexico. They stick to their advertised deals and never have squeezed me for extra money.

They would caress my body and my dick lovingly like a previous jewel, ram hard in CG, pull my ass in, moan, groan, pant, plead with me to keep ramming until they pop hehe. They show lots of expressions they genuinely enjoy sex.

But YMMV. Just have to experiment, smile a lot and act with love and care. It works everywhere.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2886522]YMMV, depending on how much chemistry the girls have with you.

Most have been very responsive and expressive with me in bed. I am not young or good-looking, but I treat these pretty spinners lovingly. They love loving and caring gestures and respond in kind. I have not run into any girl here as cold, rude and mercenary as in US or Mexico. They stick to their advertised deals and never have squeezed me for extra money.

They would caress my body and my dick lovingly like a previous jewel, ram hard in CG, pull my ass in, moan, groan, pant, plead with me to keep ramming until they pop hehe. They show lots of expressions they genuinely enjoy sex.

But YMMV. Just have to experiment, smile a lot and act with love and care. It works everywhere.[/QUOTE]The hotels don't have bidet here, so I was expecting some stinky pussy like the ones in Mexico. But, so far the pussies have been clean with no scent after doing the finger test. I found two gems so far, one is a great at BJ, the other great at lingam massage.

Been a long time user of this forum, which has helped me greatly over the years but never registered an account to post and contribute to the community. Thought I do my first review. So I have been visiting Ho Chi Minh quite frequently and met locals and expats and have gone through the whole journey to understand the whole sex scene in the city.

Massage.

For the best massage place with as great service as one can expect for a massage parlor, Linh Cherry is the way to go located in little Japan. Damage is about 2. 5 M for 1 x and 3 m for 2 x (60/90 min). Quality is 7-9. The place seems to be open 24 hrs LOL, as one can get a quickie in the morning, afternoon and night. To address the elephant in the room, I think many people are hesitant or worry about safety or being scammed and hence always just go to the recommended massages and store fronts etc that caters to foreigners. However, things are not as what people think and actually HCM is quite safe and enjoyable if you know the right places.

Wechat Escorts.

Zalo and Wechat seems to be the go to social media app in Vietnam, with Wechat catering more towards foreigners. Just turn on your location discovery in people nearby under your settings. And then let the girls message you. The damage is quite cheap at 1-1. 5 M VD, but you get what you paid for. The pictures usually looks nothing like the real person. I had to learn this the hard way. And you have to be careful with your valuables once they are in your room. It is very transactional. Girl comes in, tell you to shower (she doesn't shower with you), strips naked, slap on a condom and give you a shitty BJ and then lie there like a dead fish and tell you to pump her. Once you pop, she gets up and leaves the room. Had a couple bad experiences. Girl tried to up the price once they are in my room. I wouldn't recommend this.

KTV.

For KTV, the room cost is actually quite cheap as a room for 3 hours can be 3-5 M VD share amongst you and your friends which is quite reasonable. I recommend sticking to just beers. You can also get KTV girls which gives you more GFE experience and a different flavor and taste versus your transactional. The damage here is about 6-8 M for overnight. Quality is 6-8 but the service and experience is much different versus your typical massage parlor. Can Wechat me. Happy to share a few places that I have tried a few times and know the managers there.

Part Time Call Girls.

This is very different from your typical Wechat girls you find or visiting love hotels and picking up prostitutes. These Wechat or prostitutes are questionable and the girls usually don't look like their pictures or its a bait and switch. What I have to share here is quite exclusive and you won't find them on the internet as these are not escort agencies. I don't think many people would have access to this from my experience as you would need to know someone from the network. The price is more in absolute terms than your typical Wechat or prostitute pick ups but the quality and service is much much much better (so you get what you pay for). They are not professional workers but girls you would meet in clubs or restaurants. These are a group of young girls in their 20's who are part timers or students that do this as an extra gig to make some cash. The girls can spend time with you like your GF to do what you want. Shopping, watch movie, clubbing, drinking etc. The quality is 8-10 and you can choose which one fits your taste. I was quite shocked as the pictures and the person is identical as mentioned above I had very bad experience with Wechat girls and online escourts because as we know those girls will usually filter their pictures. However, in this case the picture and the real person matches. The mama san will make sure the person is real to their photos. The damage is 6-12 m depending on the girl and if you want short (1-2 pops) or long time (buffet) (min. 4 hours to 8 hours) so if you work it out to per hour it's much more reasonable than you quick wham bam thank you mamn. I have tried everything in Vietnam, but this experience really hits the spot as I enjoy the exclusiveness that you can't get from going to transactional places, which anyone can easily go to. As these girls are usually part timers looking to earn a quick buck the girls are not your typical working girl and really feels like a girl you picked up. The process goes, 1. Connect with the mama (I can help link you up on Wechat), 2. Chose the girl you want, 3. Meet the girl at the place of your choosing, 4. Pay the girl directly only once you have finish. If you don't like the girl when you see her then just pay her 500 K VD and ask her to go. I like the transparency of the business side of things as I am always questioning am I being scam when I am hunting in these developing countries. I use this often as when I am alone on a business trip I would just arrange for a girl and spend some private time together. Happy to share with the fellow hunters out there as this is a pretty exclusive network that I spent quite some time and effort to obtain. I have shared some photos of the girls. I hope I have made it up with my first post haha. Happy hunting guys!

My Wechat ID is.

Louis_12345678.

I Just Bagged her listed in gaito. Org.

She gained a few pounds, filled out like an American teen.

Hotel Micasa 27 Duong 6 B, KDC Trung Son, district 8, about 2 miles from Central, $2. 50 Grabcar, $1. 50 Grabbike. Its new, nice, clean upscale 5 star. Hundreds fuck hotels are on those streets off Ave 6 B.

I told Dau Tay my int friends will call. She promised not to turn them down. She knew I am foreigner. You can ask her to cal in other girls or send you to other hotels few hundred feet away.

That area is nice clean green well lighted safe, much better than Hanoi. Sorry could not upload pics due to censure.

[QUOTE=GiovanniVolo;2885412]Wow! Have you been? In case, the girls are reallly like the pictures? How old are really they?[/QUOTE]I went there today. They say no boom boom.

She's true to the pics, nice, clean pretty, smooth skin, all Natural.

She does not kiss, gave a mean BBBJ, said my dick was huge, filled her mouth then got on top ramming her pussy on my dick. Went through a long session many sessions. She was moaning with eyes rolled hehe.

They likely all went through the same school for lying and faking orgasms.

Micasa charges 150 K fire hours, 200 K for room with sauna. Girls get kick backs from hotels as usual. Saw couple spinners live in Micasa getting take out food. They feed and fuck 24/7 hehe. Most will Negotiate all night deals.

Many new, nice clean hotels in the area have signs 150 K all night. You can live there and have 10 pops a night.

If you wanted a happy ending a $5 or maybe a $10 tip in US cash dollars was all you needed. Anyone know what it is today?

Many girls work in hotel Micasa, younger, prettier, better deal than Dau Tay.

I told them about my international friends. They agreed not to turn anyone down.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2887657]I Just Bagged her listed in gaito. Org.

She gained a few pounds, filled out like an American teen.

Hotel Micasa 27 Duong 6 B, KDC Trung Son, district 8, about 2 miles from Central, $2. 50 Grabcar, $1. 50 Grabbike. Its new, nice, clean upscale 5 star. Hundreds fuck hotels are on those streets off Ave 6 B.

I told Dau Tay my int friends will call. She promised not to turn them down. She knew I am foreigner. You can ask her to cal in other girls or send you to other hotels few hundred feet away.

That area is nice clean green well lighted safe, much better than Hanoi. Sorry could not upload pics due to censure.[/QUOTE]

The massages mean 1 pop 2 pops are included by BJ or HJ.

Usually FS is negotiable, prices depend on how hot and how greedy the girls are.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2888120]Many girls work in hotel Micasa, younger, prettier, better deal than Dau Tay.

I told them about my international friends. They agreed not to turn anyone down.[/QUOTE]Yo CS, what site do you prefer when you can't access gaito? I'm intent on getting something in D8 hotel Micasa today. I tried accessing gaito. (It's gaito. Is. Right? From inside and got blocked. I switched vpn on to numerous other countries but got blocked still. I'm on a few other sites like theindia, and checkerviet to name a few of many. You've been doing good work on this forum and it's clear to me you and your wingman have a good formula. I'm intent on getting outside of D1 today where the rates are lower and the action is more passionate.

I just realized it's. Org not. Is, I don't know how I got mixed up with this. I'm good now. Will report back later hopefully.

Quan 45.

45 Đ. Phan Đang Luu, Phuong 3, Binh Thanh, hcmc.

My friends just told me about this restaurant, where hot girls in short skirts will sit, talk, feed, drink and dine with you.

It's on first floor or 2nd floor for US, looks nice, clean, upscale, only 2 miles from city center, a local place which will not rip off foreigners.

At the end it's customary to tip the girls, normally 300 K to 1 mil depending how generous you are.

I have not tried it yet, waiting for wingmen. Look at their menu. Prices are local and reasonable. Try them and insist on being treated fairly and legally.

Don't go in Boss Karaoke or any karaoke joints where they may rip you off with lots of stupid hidden charges.

For my first time, I bungled a bit. Maybe the things were lost in translation. Thanks to captain solo to help me.

Here is my story.

I land in Nam and the immigration line is long. A young hot thing is my IO so she is taking too long to clear the line. I had some Chinese money left so got that changed to Viet money.

Anyways I get the sim but turns out my phone is still locked. No worries I think, My US number will work. Big mistake. No grab nothing working. NO taxi running by meter. They charged me 200,000 for the ride.

Anyway I got to the A25 hotel suggested by Captain Solo. There is a creepy uncle supplying girls to the guest. / I negotiate a 1 million girl with her. Basic 40 dollar fuck.

Then I had the miscommunication at the D10 massage which pissed me off. Did not know FS is extra. For nex time.

Since my US number, I could not grab a taxi, I decided to call them to my hotel.

These Are the three I did.

Red dress won't let me suck her nits. Nice natural tits hot bod.

[URL]https://www.gaito.org/gai-goi/chi-tiet/42396/reup-linh-dam-pga-rell-hang-that-100-chat-luong-hang-a[/URL]

Hottest gaito fuck*.

[URL]https://www.gaito.org/gai-goi/chi-tiet/52038/kami-duyen-dang-xinh-sang-dep-sin-bao-ngon[/URL]

Says she is born in 1997 but looks no younger then 22 does not let me kiss. How to find vietnamese girls who will let me kiss.

Cheapest fuck*.

[URL]https://www.gaito.org/gai-goi/chi-tiet/59197/reup-hoai-thuong-danhg-chuan-nhiet-tinh[/URL]

Tight pussy spinner type 800 k*.

SO total 4 fucks in one night and then I had to leave for personal reasons.

Bui Vien street has great energy. I want to come back.

Q1- How to I get a hot chick off Gaito for GFE? I can offer more but the three I found were not interested.

Q2- Will viet number make my experience better?

Q3- How much should I offer to Massage for for Boom boom? Lets say 2 girls I want 3 some, we go in, I pay 2. 5 million VND, should I offer another 2. 5 to both to fuck them once eac?

I feel viet chicks are underrated they are hotter than thai with tighter pussy. Any pointers to score good GFE?

Wow. You got 4 girls a night 800 K or $30 each. How did you do all that and survived, hehe?

These girls look hot, much hotter and fresher than Thai bar girls for sure, at 10% the cost. And they come to your hotel. You don't have to go anywhere.

I will pull the tiny spinner Hoai Thuong. I like her sweet face and tight pussy. She lists " Kissing and 400 K. " I will insist on swapping tongues with her or I will report her to Gaito admin. Sadly the last 3 girls I bagged this week all refused to kiss.

Don't know how you can get GFEs with these girls. May have to know them a while and give them money.

You did not mention which massage you went to. Usually upgraded rooms have large beds for 3 somes. Most massage have 3 some offers but you have to negotiate sex in the room. Up to you how you work it out with them.

You booked Gaito. Org girls with US number, so I don't think a VN number will get you better sessions. Your phone has to be unlocked to take new SIM. Phones bought from services like ATT, T-Mobile ect will be locked. I have T-Mobiles international plans. It works everywhere in Asia except the remotest parts. But I always bring an unlocked phone for local SIM just in case.

I am staying at A25 right now. The free breakfast is pretty good and convenient. I am envious that you bagged 4 girls a night. Will have to call in Hoai Thuong.

Thanks for the info here.

Seems Solo recommends both A25 and Micasa, which is better?

45 Đ. Phan Đang Luu, Phuong 3, Binh Thanh, hcmc.

I went with wingmen for dinner. The place was nice, clean upscale with 50 hot young girls ready to entertain guests.

It's a huge place with 30 tables outdoors on the terrace, but was warm and noisy, so we decided for a private air con room.

4 of us picked 4 girls to party. They have a big menu with lots of spicy dishes good to drink beers with, rack plate costs about 100 K or $4. Heinekens were 25 K or $1, girls beers are same prices, far cheaper than prices in bars or karaoke joints.

The girls were feeding us food and pouring drinks. They really try their boss to sell $1 beers hehe. Mine was a young pretty spinner, all smiling and touchy feely. We were kidding around. My girl said she does not smoke but like to suck on hairy cigars hehe. I was groping her crotch, caressing her thighs, squeezing her boobs under the table. She got pretty wet.

It has a serious menu with snacks good to drink beers with. The chefs were very good. Food was all fresh, hot and delish. We ordered 5 plates of food, plus uncountable beers for us and girls, costed total only 1 M2 or $50 for all 4 of us. Guys were tipping their girls separately. I tipped my girl 400 K or about $16 . Local wingmen told me that was way too high for locals. My girl nagged for more but I declined. Got her tel to hook up later. Can't wait to drive my dick into her tiny pussy.

You can get rooms without reservation. Tell the greeter you want a private room and invite how many ever girls you want to sit with you. They are happy to help their boss sell $1 beers hehe.

This is a cheap, delish, exciting and sexy way to dine with low beer prices and good, delish food with hot young sexy girls, highly recommended.

A25, about $30 a night, is in the middle of the bustling tourist district. You can take girls in while also enjoy the bars and party life on Bui Vien. There are plenty of food 24/7.

Micasa, about $10 a night, new, nice, clean, upscale, is in a nice, clean, quiet, leafy residential area 2 miles from city center, with hundreds of fuck hotels, all within walking distances, $8-15 a night, where on line girls live in and work with locals. Girls prefer to fuck in their hotels. You can walk over to meet many quickly. Things are slow and relaxed out here, plenty of food, authentic and good.

You can ride bus 152 from Bui Vien to the Trung Son rotary and walk to this area, only 20 minute ride. You can switch back and forth and enjoy both lifestyles.

Intrigued by the concept of love hotels, and a thirst to pierce something, I decided to just go to Micasa hotel cold with the mentality I wasn't going to leave that area without piercing something.

I was shocked to arrive and see that area was flooded with love hotels. Block, after block, after block, a decent size area is powered by these love hotels. I went into Micasa and felt the staff out briefly. Everyone knows what time it is, what's understood don't have to be explained. I step outside briefly and security guard is offering his lady for 1.2 m. A lot different from the workers in the building who make it clear they only offer rooms LOL. I turn the guard down no hesi, then he offers me a seat but I decline. I have other plans — get some water find a chill spot to sit and start hunting on Gaito.

Ironically I didn't recall Gaito was using location services until I was hunting today, how convenient LOL. I quickly come across a prospect 0. X km away. Name is Pow Pow, she's got 24 reports, charges 300 k, and mentions anal surcharge of 100 k. She's born in 84' so she's no spring chicken. Pics look cool, but I know how much this goes, this country loves filters and will do whatever to hide any blemish. I expect to see worse. It doesn't matter, the way I'm feeling, if she looks any better than a gorilla she'll work for this test run. Besides, I'm more concerned with establishing a sound Gaito end to end process than hitting a grand slam on the first pitch.

I text her the pass and the response is quick, she wants to play. At the behest of other forum members I quickly inform her that I am a foreigner using a translator and I ask, is this OK. I had reached out to one Gaito girl in the past, and when I told her I was a foreigner, she said, Japanese, Taiwanese, Chinese, and Koreans OK. She specifically said no Europeans or Americans, that was dead quick. Anyway, back to Pow Pow, she's moving so fast with her predetermined process that she tells me to come, only after I start walking to her hotel, she says I need to pay 1 M because I'm foreigner, and says I am a "bystander of pain". It's not happening. I ask her how does she know me to even make a statement like that. I kindly reiterate to her Gaito listed price, and while I tell her I am not in the business of making people uncomfortable or forcing people to do things they don't want to, I will not pay 1 M as it's simply not worth it. At this pt I also informed her that I stopped moving towards her location as well. She responds, okay 300 k is fine but you have to be nice and gentle okay? I tell her I promise to be gentle and I promise to treat her like she is precious. To keep her honest I let her know she needs to be nice to me too, it's not like I'm some robot you can just do whatever to. With this chicken's head screwed back on properly, she's back in good spirits so we back on.

The venue is Cupid hotel. When I arrive the front desk is ready to get me in a room. I tell them I need a minute to talk to my friend. One of the workers is like it's better if you let me talk to her. I don't feel I need her to talk for me, but it didn't bother me, so I hand her the phone to finish the text convo with Pow Pow. Looks like she basically just tells her what room I'll be in then hands me the phone back. They explain the rates, then they take a deposit (100 k) that covers more than 2 hrs. To be clear, I never stated how much time I need. Then they send me up to my room.

Mentally I'm prepared for roaches when I open the door, but to my surprise it's not too bad. Save for numerous mosquitos which for me is arguably worse than roaches. It is what it is. On the bed its a couple towels and some laughable Vietnamese rubbers. In the bathroom, its prepackaged hygienic items. It's no mistaking what this operation is. I get ready to do a brief shower than the knock comes, the time has come. I open the door and its Pow Pow. Or at least it's close enough for me. She's not a stunner for sure, but she's no gorilla either LOL. It never crossed my mind to turn her away, and she's surprisingly excited considering her energy over text. She finds me handsome, and all of a sudden she has this maniacal laugh as she can't wait to get nasty. I like this. So I tell her let me rinse quick and I take my stuff in the bathroom, she says I can leave my stuff outside -- Not an option for unknown commodities. It wasn't going to happen.

After I rinse, but while I'm drying off, she's already trying to build the price to 500 k, and talking about tips, in a playful and harmless way. I let her know the price is 300 k and if she performs well she could be rewarded with a tip. She's okay with it and getting anxious to eat the. She grabs for condom and I stop her and tell her I need that BBBJ and she obliges. It's solid, not all world, but she's sucking it like a lollipop that she really wants to savor, nice wet mouth. I could say things that could use improvement here, but I wasn't up tight as I was just trying to book a seamless end to end Gaito transaction. She did take a call mid BJ, where she serviced the call while switching to HJ for me. For me it's like where's the ettiquette? LOL, I sware the theme of Vietnamese people working a ton has been a running theme of my trip. Not being able to have dates because women are working 2 jobs and on their days off they just want to sleep. I understand the purpose of it culturally, it's just frustrating to deal with. It's a noble thing they're doing working 18-20 hrs a day, 5 days a week, to send money home to support their parents medical bills, but man it makes it really hard to actually be in the presence of these kinds of people. Whatever.

Eventually she gets thirsty for the inside her so she straps my condom that I brought on me, looking in my eyes with a devilish grin, and whips out the lube and rubs that on too. I don't have a problem with lube, but I've been having a good run without requiring it and I feel like it's kind of performance enhancer for the woman to get you to blow faster. For the record I asked about the anal surcharge but she insisted "no, too big". Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Even though she's feeling pretty comfy and sporting a maniacal laugh, I'm still thinking to be cautious with her. I start with an intimate and smothering chest to chest missionary where I can put her in a headlock if necessary to let her know she is trapped. I'm going slow at first. There's a mirror next to us, and she turns to look at it maniacally laughing, eyes wide open, she seems to be enjoying it. She's pulling me deeper, and she's starting to kinda go crazy. Ask and you shall receive be, I crank it up a notch and her emotions start to switch. Now her eyes close, her body tenses up, she's clenching her jaw, she's grabbing the sheets for dear life LOL. She's quiet and she's just trying to fight through it. While it's important for me to dominate her, it's more important for me to make sure she is comfortable. I ask her numerous times if she is okay and she always says she's okay. Even if it seems like she's mumbling prayers / curse words under her breath in between. Eventually her body just complete relaxes for a couple seconds. In my mind she came, because I felt and heard the waterworks sounds on the interior. Part of me is thinking she doesn't want to climax and she is trying her best not to. Even when she was blowing me off, I was rubbing her clit, and ever time I really hit it, it was like she couldn't take it and had to stop what she was doing.

After that I'm ready to see if I can bust it wide open. I try to go for another missionary variation where I'm spreading her legs wide apart and trying to push her feet back towards her the direction of her head, but it seems she was scared of that position. She refused me attempting to fold her up like that so I just settled for a more convenient modified version of this which she also ended up fighting through. Gone where those maniacal laughs and wide eyes again, she's wet as the river she's getting pounded near and her body is getting overloaded. I beat it up for a bit there than decide to end it with doggy. She just wouldn't stop getting wet and that position was no different. I pound it out from there until I blow my load inside. When I'm done, she gets up and she is in an exceptional mood. She's estatic, and laughing a lot. She was cool, def a nice lady, all in all it was a good experience. I had fun, I'm pretty sure she was pleased with her outcome. I give her 400 k and she's on her way. I brought exact change so no funny business there.

I clean up and head to the front desk. When I walk out the room I got a chuckle because there was like a storage / supply closet right next to my room and it was open. When I looked inside it, all I saw as towels, hygienic items and condoms LOL. Anyway, at the front desk, from what I recall they told me 1 HR = 70 k, 2 HR = 90 k. If you go over 1 HR I don't think it's prorated. I turn in my key card and she hands me 30 k change. I wasn't paying attention to the time, but it's clear they didn't cheat me on the price because the least I could pay was 70 k regardless. I relax in the lobby and drink a beer.

The damage:

70 k for the telly.

300 k base price for Pow Pow.

100 k for tip.

48 k for grab bike to that are of the city if you want to include this.

With fairly low expectations, I am fully pleased with my experience. I feel very confident if I keep taking shots on Gaito its only a matter of time before I come across a diamond. I'm fine with variance, have to put in the work to build your stable of all-stars, my only problem is that I am leaving this country very soon.

It's funny to read Hithofs' post with excellent blow by blow details how he fearlessly explored D8's Trung Son red light district, conquered the shifty hooker, got a hot sex session with rich cultural, social experiences, all for $20 total.

This area is nice, clean, safe. The bros can get hotel rooms, nice, clean, quiet, safe, all night for $8 to $15. Use Gaito local search for girls nearby until you find those you like. You can bag 20 hot ones a night easily.

There are plenty of good food, bars and drinks around the rotary and adjacent streets. You can survive very well here with low cost.

I saw a dozen hot young girls work in the huge, upscale Boss Karaoke.

Joint at the rotary, but it's known as a rob shop where the rich and powerful locals party. Hot girls will sweet talk you into buying expensive drinks then a huge bill at the end and sorry no sex. Fuck that shit. Make sure you know what you buy.

But if you want to party with high class hot girls, Boss is the place, still way better and cheaper than dive bars on Bui Vien with their crude, ugly farm girls.

Sorry, the lady's name was actually Cam Tien for the record. I thought the name was the name by the person icon in her thread, but I am realizing that's just some guy that lists the profiles.

I booked Be Na in D10, pics showed a beautiful spinner, but in real life, she looked and acted like a crude street urchin with large tattoos in both arms, both knees, shoulder, looking disgusting. She sounded like she hangs with a Cambodian gang.

Booked Yuki. Her rate is 1 M, said she prefers Micasa since it's cleaner, more upscale. It charges 150 K for st rooms, about double others. She has to ride 8 miles to work from Phu Nhuan, where police has been cracking down. Upscale girls all want to fuck in Micasa.

Pics show Yuki a slim spinner, but she looked a little pudgy, not very glammy. She was doing a quick CG, claimed tired and wanted me to do all the work. We switched to doggie which she seemed to enjoy, groaning, moaning, hissing.

I pinned her down in mish. She got very wet, body fluid formed a big donut foam around her pussy. She was squirming in pleasure, told me she was enjoying it, but then urged me to finish, not loving and sexy at all. Services have been going down. Girls are not as nice and sweet like before.

She asked me to delay my exit after her, just did not want me to see the 50 K kick back handed to her by Micasa. She would go and sit at a cafe nearby, working the phone, waiting for other customers. She's not worth 1 M. A few others are young, fresh, glammy, feminine, far more attractive than she for less.

Dis 10 is scattered out widely on filthy streets, but did 8 is very good for mongers with hundreds fuck motels clustered within a few nice, green, leafy small blocks and over 4000 girls listed. You can always find hot girls quickly. You can sit in a cafe or bar drinking cheap beers, search and book your favorite girls then walk to their hotels when they are ready.

[URL]https://www.gaito.org/gai-goi/chi-tiet/58610/reup-yuki-mat-xinh-da-trang-body-boc-lua[/URL]

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2889454]I booked Be Na in D10, pics showed a beautiful spinner, but in real life, she looked and acted like a crude street urchin with large tattoos in both arms, both knees, shoulder, looking disgusting. She sounded like she hangs with a Cambodian gang.

Booked Yuki. Her rate is 1 M, said she prefers Micasa since it's cleaner, more upscale. It charges 150 K for st rooms, about double others. She has to ride 8 miles to work from Phu Nhuan, where police has been cracking down. Upscale girls all want to fuck in Micasa.

Pics show Yuki a slim spinner, but she looked a little pudgy, not very glammy. She was doing a quick CG, claimed tired and wanted me to do all the work. We switched to doggie which she seemed to enjoy, groaning, moaning, hissing.

I pinned her down in mish. She got very wet, body fluid formed a big donut foam around her pussy. She was squirming in pleasure, told me she was enjoying it, but then urged me to finish, not loving and sexy at all. Services have been going down. Girls are not as nice and sweet like before.

She asked me to delay my exit after her, just did not want me to see the 50 K kick back handed to her by Micasa. She would go and sit at a cafe nearby, working the phone, waiting for other customers. She's not worth 1 M. A few others are young, fresh, glammy, feminine, far more attractive than she for less.

Dis 10 is scattered out widely on filthy streets, but did 8 is very good for mongers with hundreds fuck motels clustered within a few nice, green, leafy small blocks and over 4000 girls listed. You can always find hot girls quickly. You can sit in a cafe or bar drinking cheap beers, search and book your favorite girls then walk to their hotels when they are ready.

[URL]https://www.gaito.org/gai-goi/chi-tiet/58610/reup-yuki-mat-xinh-da-trang-body-boc-lua[/URL][/QUOTE]Learned a lot from them, have been here 5 days and having a time of my life over Gaito and Gaigu.

Quality is far better than all the neighbouring countries, considering the price / value ratio.

A common complaint is lack of GFE and bit mechanical services. But I think the 0 roblem is the girls have to churn out a lot of customers and there.

Is but little pre / post interaction.

I have had much better experience persuading a couple of girls (one from a nail shop, another off gaito) to come to my homestay in Q1. Lot better service quality that way.

BTW gaito keeps changing its suffix. Latest is. Org.

Dist 8 is a gold mine, but if you are in dist 1. Dist 10 is closer and generally better quality. As a rule, further away you go from Dist 1. Cost / quality is better.

For my money, girls in Dist 1 are overpriced and offer no special value when you can travel a couple of km out and get the same quality for less than half the price.

I bought a local eSIM online that way did not have to supply passport.

I am here another week if someone wants advice or wingman etc. Afraid I don't have a membership, by the time I get it. It will be 5 ime to leave.

Somewhat mirrors my own experience, I think there are a few such love hotel areas spread around town, near airport.

And in various distts.

Gaito is better than gaigu. Because you can check the past report and get to see the real photos vs. The glam shots in girls profiles.

Happy (and safe) hunting.

[QUOTE=HotHof;2889033]Intrigued by the concept of love hotels, and a thirst to pierce something, I decided to just go to Micasa hotel cold with the mentality I wasn't going to leave that area without piercing something.

I was shocked to arrive and see that area was flooded with love hotels. Block, after block, after block, a decent size area is powered by these love hotels. I went into Micasa and felt the staff out briefly. Everyone knows what time it is, what's understood don't have to be explained. I step outside briefly and security guard is offering his lady for 1.2 m. A lot different from the workers in the building who make it clear they only offer rooms LOL. I turn the guard down no hesi, then he offers me a seat but I decline. I have other plans get some water find a chill spot to sit and start hunting on Gaito.

Ironically I didn't recall Gaito was using location services until I was hunting today, how convenient LOL. I quickly come across a prospect 0. X km away. Name is Pow Pow, she's got 24 reports, charges 300 k, and mentions anal surcharge of 100 k. She's born in 84' so she's no spring chicken. Pics look cool, but I know how much this goes, this country loves filters and will do whatever to hide any blemish. I expect to see worse. It doesn't matter, the way I'm feeling, if she looks any better than a gorilla she'll work for this test run. Besides, I'm more concerned with establishing a sound Gaito end to end process than hitting a grand slam on the first pitch.

I text her the pass and the response is quick, she wants to play. At the behest of other forum members I quickly inform her that I am a foreigner using a translator and I ask, is this OK. I had reached out to one Gaito girl in the past, and when I told her I was a foreigner, she said, Japanese, Taiwanese, Chinese, and Koreans OK. She specifically said no Europeans or Americans, that was dead quick. Anyway, back to Pow Pow, she's moving so fast with her predetermined process that she tells me to come, only after I start walking to her hotel, she says I need to pay 1 M because I'm foreigner, and says I am a "bystander of pain". It's not happening. I ask her how does she know me to even make a statement like that. I kindly reiterate to her Gaito listed price, and while I tell her I am not in the business of making people uncomfortable or forcing people to do things they don't want to, I will not pay 1 M as it's simply not worth it. At this pt I also informed her that I stopped moving towards her location as well. She responds, okay 300 k is fine but you have to be nice and gentle okay? I tell her I promise to be gentle and I promise to treat her like she is precious. To keep her honest I let her know she needs to be nice to me too, it's not like I'm some robot you can just do whatever to. With this chicken's head screwed back on properly, she's back in good spirits so we back on.

The venue is Cupid hotel. When I arrive the front desk is ready to get me in a room. I tell them I need a minute to talk to my friend. One of the workers is like it's better if you let me talk to her. I don't feel I need her to talk for me, but it didn't bother me, so I hand her the phone to finish the text convo with Pow Pow. Looks like she basically just tells her what room I'll be in then hands me the phone back. They explain the rates, then they take a deposit (100 k) that covers more than 2 hrs. To be clear, I never stated how much time I need. Then they send me up to my room.

Mentally I'm prepared for roaches when I open the door, but to my surprise it's not too bad. Save for numerous mosquitos which for me is arguably worse than roaches. It is what it is. On the bed its a couple towels and some laughable Vietnamese rubbers. In the bathroom, its prepackaged hygienic items. It's no mistaking what this operation is. I get ready to do a brief shower than the knock comes, the time has come. I open the door and its Pow Pow. Or at least it's close enough for me. She's not a stunner for sure, but she's no gorilla either LOL. It never crossed my mind to turn her away, and she's surprisingly excited considering her energy over text. She finds me handsome, and all of a sudden she has this maniacal laugh as she can't wait to get nasty. I like this. So I tell her let me rinse quick and I take my stuff in the bathroom, she says I can leave my stuff outside -- Not an option for unknown commodities. It wasn't going to happen.

After I rinse, but while I'm drying off, she's already trying to build the price to 500 k, and talking about tips, in a playful and harmless way. I let her know the price is 300 k and if she performs well she could be rewarded with a tip. She's okay with it and getting anxious to eat the. She grabs for condom and I stop her and tell her I need that BBBJ and she obliges. It's solid, not all world, but she's sucking it like a lollipop that she really wants to savor, nice wet mouth. I could say things that could use improvement here, but I wasn't up tight as I was just trying to book a seamless end to end Gaito transaction. She did take a call mid BJ, where she serviced the call while switching to HJ for me. For me it's like where's the ettiquette? LOL, I sware the theme of Vietnamese people working a ton has been a running theme of my trip. Not being able to have dates because women are working 2 jobs and on their days off they just want to sleep. I understand the purpose of it culturally, it's just frustrating to deal with. It's a noble thing they're doing working 18-20 hrs a day, 5 days a week, to send money home to support their parents medical bills, but man it makes it really hard to actually be in the presence of these kinds of people. Whatever.

Eventually she gets thirsty for the inside her so she straps my condom that I brought on me, looking in my eyes with a devilish grin, and whips out the lube and rubs that on too. I don't have a problem with lube, but I've been having a good run without requiring it and I feel like it's kind of performance enhancer for the woman to get you to blow faster. For the record I asked about the anal surcharge but she insisted "no, too big". Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Even though she's feeling pretty comfy and sporting a maniacal laugh, I'm still thinking to be cautious with her. I start with an intimate and smothering chest to chest missionary where I can put her in a headlock if necessary to let her know she is trapped. I'm going slow at first. There's a mirror next to us, and she turns to look at it maniacally laughing, eyes wide open, she seems to be enjoying it. She's pulling me deeper, and she's starting to kinda go crazy. Ask and you shall receive be, I crank it up a notch and her emotions start to switch. Now her eyes close, her body tenses up, she's clenching her jaw, she's grabbing the sheets for dear life LOL. She's quiet and she's just trying to fight through it. While it's important for me to dominate her, it's more important for me to make sure she is comfortable. I ask her numerous times if she is okay and she always says she's okay. Even if it seems like she's mumbling prayers / curse words under her breath in between. Eventually her body just complete relaxes for a couple seconds. In my mind she came, because I felt and heard the waterworks sounds on the interior. Part of me is thinking she doesn't want to climax and she is trying her best not to. Even when she was blowing me off, I was rubbing her clit, and ever time I really hit it, it was like she couldn't take it and had to stop what she was doing.

After that I'm ready to see if I can bust it wide open. I try to go for another missionary variation where I'm spreading her legs wide apart and trying to push her feet back towards her the direction of her head, but it seems she was scared of that position. She refused me attempting to fold her up like that so I just settled for a more convenient modified version of this which she also ended up fighting through. Gone where those maniacal laughs and wide eyes again, she's wet as the river she's getting pounded near and her body is getting overloaded. I beat it up for a bit there than decide to end it with doggy. She just wouldn't stop getting wet and that position was no different. I pound it out from there until I blow my load inside. When I'm done, she gets up and she is in an exceptional mood. She's estatic, and laughing a lot. She was cool, def a nice lady, all in all it was a good experience. I had fun, I'm pretty sure she was pleased with her outcome. I give her 400 k and she's on her way. I brought exact change so no funny business there.

I clean up and head to the front desk. When I walk out the room I got a chuckle because there was like a storage / supply closet right next to my room and it was open. When I looked inside it, all I saw as towels, hygienic items and condoms LOL. Anyway, at the front desk, from what I recall they told me 1 HR = 70 k, 2 HR = 90 k. If you go over 1 HR I don't think it's prorated. I turn in my key card and she hands me 30 k change. I wasn't paying attention to the time, but it's clear they didn't cheat me on the price because the least I could pay was 70 k regardless. I relax in the lobby and drink a beer.

The damage:

70 k for the telly.

300 k base price for Pow Pow.

100 k for tip.

48 k for grab bike to that are of the city if you want to include this.

With fairly low expectations, I am fully pleased with my experience. I feel very confident if I keep taking shots on Gaito its only a matter of time before I come across a diamond. I'm fine with variance, have to put in the work to build your stable of all-stars, my only problem is that I am leaving this country very soon.[/QUOTE]

Yo CS I got to say your posts have been very helpful, informative, and fun for me to read. IMO you are really giving a lot of great advice in this thread. We all have our own approaches to things in this game. I'm not saying which was is the best for the next person, that's a subjective thing. My goal is just to see all of the options, experiment a bit, and then spam whatever is the best approach for me to get what I want. It's many people posting valuable stuff in here, but what I've seen from you is much more in trenches than I've seen in the past 5-10 pages of this thread.

I mean that Quan 45 restaurant you mentioned, that's not the kind of spot that's going to be easy for a first timer to find with minimal time in the country. I haven't seen any posts like that in the past 5-10 pages. That's a really good report to me because that's really unique. Most things mentioned here I've either seen it loosely mentioned by someone else, or on another forum like say single man forum. When you posted that restaurant I saved it in Google Maps, and like you I was waiting for a wingman to go. I traveled to the country by myself and had no problem going by myself, but I had a friend I met out there that was cool, and I was hoping to kick it with him at a restaurant like that where he was going to have no clue what he was getting into LOL. Unfortunately, I didn't get to do that before I left Vietnam, but hey I still got that spot saved for next time LOL!

Just really saying thanks though man, your consistent reporting I looked forward to as I refreshed this thread daily. Thanks to everybody else that contributed too.

A number of Gaito. Org girls state they would do "Some" with some girls. That means they would go to bed with those girls.

Threesome does not interest me so I never pursued. Check girls for Some. You can have threesome with girls who charge $8 to $25 each.

I am glad there are guys like you brave enough to walk out to dis 8 to sample hot, sexy girls with authentic local flavors.

What's the point of traveling to an exotic country to hang out and get drunk with other tourists? I think you got the most and the best experience with your time and money out of Vietnam.

Quan 45 is another unique Viet flavor that cost very little Thay you cannot find in any other countries. I urge the bros to enjoy it before prices go up.

Also post any unique local experiences worth trying.

[QUOTE=HotHof;2889952]Yo CS I got to say your posts have been very helpful, informative, and fun for me to read. IMO you are really giving a lot of great advice in this thread. We all have our own approaches to things in this game. I'm not saying which was is the best for the next person, that's a subjective thing. My goal is just to see all of the options, experiment a bit, and then spam whatever is the best approach for me to get what I want. It's many people posting valuable stuff in here, but what I've seen from you is much more in trenches than I've seen in the past 5-10 pages of this thread.

I mean that Quan 45 restaurant you mentioned, that's not the kind of spot that's going to be easy for a first timer to find with minimal time in the country. I haven't seen any posts like that in the past 5-10 pages. That's a really good report to me because that's really unique. Most things mentioned here I've either seen it loosely mentioned by someone else, or on another forum like say single man forum. When you posted that restaurant I saved it in Google Maps, and like you I was waiting for a wingman to go. I traveled to the country by myself and had no problem going by myself, but I had a friend I met out there that was cool, and I was hoping to kick it with him at a restaurant like that where he was going to have no clue what he was getting into LOL. Unfortunately, I didn't get to do that before I left Vietnam, but hey I still got that spot saved for next time LOL!

Just really saying thanks though man, your consistent reporting I looked forward to as I refreshed this thread daily. Thanks to everybody else that contributed too.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2888775]45 Đ. Phan Đang Luu, Phuong 3, Binh Thanh, hcmc.

I went with wingmen for dinner. The place was nice, clean upscale with 50 hot young girls ready to entertain guests.

It's a huge place with 30 tables outdoors on the terrace, but was warm and noisy, so we decided for a private air con room.

4 of us picked 4 girls to party. They have a big menu with lots of spicy dishes good to drink beers with, rack plate costs about 100 K or $4. Heinekens were 25 K or $1, girls beers are same prices, far cheaper than prices in bars or karaoke joints.

The girls were feeding us food and pouring drinks. They really try their boss to sell $1 beers hehe. Mine was a young pretty spinner, all smiling and touchy feely. We were kidding around. My girl said she does not smoke but like to suck on hairy cigars hehe. I was groping her crotch, caressing her thighs, squeezing her boobs under the table. She got pretty wet.

It has a serious menu with snacks good to drink beers with. The chefs were very good. Food was all fresh, hot and delish. We ordered 5 plates of food, plus uncountable beers for us and girls, costed total only 1 M2 or $50 for all 4 of us. Guys were tipping their girls separately. I tipped my girl 400 K or about $16 . Local wingmen told me that was way too high for locals. My girl nagged for more but I declined. Got her tel to hook up later. Can't wait to drive my dick into her tiny pussy.

You can get rooms without reservation. Tell the greeter you want a private room and invite how many ever girls you want to sit with you. They are happy to help their boss sell $1 beers hehe.

This is a cheap, delish, exciting and sexy way to dine with low beer prices and good, delish food with hot young sexy girls, highly recommended.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report. If I went solo, would I run into any problems? I'm a seasoned monger (USA, Japan, Cambodia, Ukraine, Mexico, Latvia).

I'm planning my trip to Thailand later this year and wanted to ask the guys who have experience in the mongering scene in both Thailand and Vietnam, what are reasons if any, that I should divide my travel time between Thailand and Vietnam? Should I stay in Thailand or make some time to come to Vietnam as well with regards to the mongering scene?

I don't see any problem. They would welcome your business.

If they give you any problem, find ways to solve it.

[QUOTE=Vendelo;2891164]Thanks for the report. If I went solo, would I run into any problems? I'm a seasoned monger (USA, Japan, Cambodia, Ukraine, Mexico, Latvia).[/QUOTE]

The only reason is the novelty of unique Viet flavors and low prices. If you are not picky, you can stay in district 8 hooker district for cheap, bag girls for 200 K dong or $8, may be ten a night.

Prostitution is illegal in Vietnam, so supply is short. There are no upfront strip clubs and bars to find girls. The only lively venue is on line like GAITO. ORG, but recently I have found more than half of on line girls look far worse than pics with excessive touched ups, many would not do DFKs and other acts as advertised. Prices for top tiered on line girls are about the same or higher than those in Thailand.

OTOH Thailand is wide open for comercial sex with excellent supply of girls and many venues, bars, streets, FIWFANS, dating sites. FIWFANS girls have been looking very close to their pics, would do exactly what they advertise and prices are about the same as VN with easy booking. I had some sweet and sexy sessions with beautiful FIWFANS girls.

Lots of hot girls work in gogo clubs and bars but prices are high. Most girls are heavily implanted, look too plasticky for my taste.

About 50 street girls work in Soi 4 every night, some hot, prices are low. I also find a few very attractive bar girls walk the sois whom can be picked up for OTC dates.

Thailand wins in every way.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2891466]The only reason is the novelty of unique Viet flavors and low prices. If you are not picky, you can stay in district 8 hooker district for cheap, bag girls for 200 K dong or $8, may be ten a night.

Prostitution is illegal in Vietnam, so supply is short. There are no upfront strip clubs and bars to find girls. The only lively venue is on line like GAITO. ORG, but recently I have found more than half of on line girls look far worse than pics with excessive touched ups, many would not do DFKs and other acts as advertised. Prices for top tiered on line girls are about the same or higher than those in Thailand.

Thailand wins in every way.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your opinion. I've seen videos of Vietnam red light areas and there seems to be enough girls sitting outside venues but don't know how prices compare to Thailand which is why it was interesting for you to bring up the claim of low prices in Vietnam. If I"m going to be in that part of the world anyway, I was thinking that I might as well check it out as a quick side trip but only if I'm not settiing myself for disappointment after Pattaya and Bangkok.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;2891614]Thanks for your opinion. I've seen videos of Vietnam red light areas and there seems to be enough girls sitting outside venues but don't know how prices compare to Thailand which is why it was interesting for you to bring up the claim of low prices in Vietnam. If I"m going to be in that part of the world anyway, I was thinking that I might as well check it out as a quick side trip but only if I'm not settiing myself for disappointment after Pattaya and Bangkok.[/QUOTE]Going to Ho Chi Minh City next month. Is it possible to get a girl to stay with me. It says Vietnamese girls are not allowed to stay with foreigners.

Short answer is yes. Message me and I'll gladly connect a fellow senior.

[QUOTE=Sammon;2891743]Going to Ho Chi Minh City next month. Is it possible to get a girl to stay with me. It says Vietnamese girls are not allowed to stay with foreigners.[/QUOTE]

Youtube shows lots of girls sitting in front of massages touting guys, but almost all massages are BBBJ and HJ only. The few FS massages that I knew have been busted.

Lots of girls in GAITO. ORG advertise 20 K or $8ST. They are the lowest tier, older, heavier and not very attractive. You should insist on their ad prices and services. District 8 is nice, clean with hundreds love hotels in 2 or 3 small blocks, some are very nice. All day rates are anywhere $10-15. You can stay in a hotel and ask girls to come to you. There are lots of restaurants and street food in that area.

Pattaya and Bangkok are better organized with oversight, so there are less scams, baits and switches. Girls in Vietnam are mostly independents, more inclined to pull tricks against foreigners.

How are the costs of rooms, food and girls there compared to those in Thailand?

[QUOTE=SteveW;2891935]Short answer is yes. Message me and I'll gladly connect a fellow senior.[/QUOTE]Sent you a PM. Thanks.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2891466]
OTOH Thailand is wide open for comercial sex with excellent supply of girls and many venues, bars, streets, FIWFANS, dating sites. FIWFANS girls have been looking very close to their pics, would do exactly what they advertise and prices are about the same as VN with easy booking. I had some sweet and sexy sessions with beautiful FIWFANS girls.
Thailand wins in every way.[/QUOTE]So would you say generally fiwifans is worth the effort? Thought a bit like TF, dodgy at best. Prices on FIWIFANS seem very cheap? Semi pros?

Any thoughts appreciated.

NI.

FIWIFANS is defnitely worth it.

I had many wonderful sessions with beautiful girls in their nice, clean hotel rooms. They do exactly what they advertise. There were no haggling or headaches. All girls look very close to their pics.

Look at Nong Nicha, a classy and very beautiful girl with all natural assets, no blemishes, speaks English, nice, fun as hell, like a real GF. I took a canal boat from Soi 5 to soi 55, walked 2 small blocks to her hotel, 40 minutes only 1300 be or $40. She wants 5000 be or $140 to spend all night with me OTC.

Bar and Gogo girls look to plasticky and too fake for my taste. FIWFANS.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2892258]So would you say generally fiwifans is worth the effort? Thought a bit like TF, dodgy at best. Prices on FIWIFANS seem very cheap? Semi pros?

Any thoughts appreciated.

NI.[/QUOTE]

FIWIFANS is defnitely worth it.

I had many wonderful sessions with beautiful girls in their nice, clean hotel rooms. They do exactly what they advertise and I always get appointments quickly. All girls look very close to their pics. There were no haggling or headaches. They are like semi pros, more real, less hardened and manipulative than bar girls.

Look at Nong Nicha, a classy and very beautiful girl with all natural assets, no blemishes, speaks English, nice, fun as hell, like a real GF. I took a canal boat from Soi 5 to soi 55, walked 2 small blocks to her hotel, 40 minutes only 1300 be or $40. She wants 5000 be or $140 to spend all night with me OTC. I will visit her every time I am in BKK.

Bar and Gogo girls look to plasticky, too fake, act too manipulative for my taste. FIWFANS is my favorite venue in Thailand.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2892258]So would you say generally fiwifans is worth the effort? Thought a bit like TF, dodgy at best. Prices on FIWIFANS seem very cheap? Semi pros?

Any thoughts appreciated.

NI.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NewImage;2892258]So would you say generally fiwifans is worth the effort? Thought a bit like TF, dodgy at best. Prices on FIWIFANS seem very cheap? Semi pros?

Any thoughts appreciated.

NI.[/QUOTE]Prices on FIWFANS is not "very cheap", its what thais themselves pay. If you think that the prices you pay in a gogo bar is what thaimen pay then you are misinformed. What you pay for ST in a gogo is what you can pay here in western european countries. You should also keep in mind that in the price you see on fiwfans, the "barfine" is included in the price. The women pay 300-400 to the agency.

For 30+ ladies that is average looking thais pay around 700 baht for a visit in the appartment / hotell room and cum one time.

Nice, clean hotels in Bui Vien Back Packers district and District 8 Hoe Central are about $10-15. GAITO. ORG girls are from $8 to 40. Thai girls go from $30 in FIWFANS to $200 at gogos and bars.

Food availability is poorer and more expensive compared to Thailand, noodle soups are $2 to 3. Pho Bien $10 AYCE grilled steak and seafood is very good. Quan 45 had delish food with beer girls company (bia om) about $10 a head.

In Bangkok lots of noodle and grilled meats shops, many in Terminal 1 Food court, sell huge varities of food, drinks, fruits, most charge 25 K Bahts or $0. 75 a noodle bowl. A dozen Mookatas AYCE wagu beef for $12. Best Beef on Sukh Soi 55, $10 AYCE beef and seafood. Mungkorn AYCE seafood on Sukh 45 $10 with live prawns.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;2892200]How are the costs of rooms, food and girls there compared to those in Thailand?[/QUOTE]

Follows is a quick and crude analysis of the cost of sex compared to basic meals in countries using most likely costs:

Thailand's FIWFANS prices 1,000 Bahts per pop even seem high for locals, considering a good lunch in most places, including Terminal 21 food court, costs only 50 Bahts. That's 20 meals for a pop with a girl in bed.

In Tijuana Mexico, a basic meal costs 75 pesos. Lots of street girls will do half hour sessions for 500 pesos, HK bar girls, 2400 pesos, so 6 meals for street pussies and 45 meals for clubs'. Mexican club pussies are way inflated to ridiculous levels. You don't want to have to skip 45 meals in 30 days just to poke a club girl. Mexico would be the cheapest if you just stick with street pussies, some are very nice, sweet, good-looking.

In US a McDonalds meal will cost $12. You can find street girls in LA for $100, Asian massage or escorts $120, so 10 meals for a fuck. US sex market is illegal, not efficient and in your face, but even with relentless raids, stings, arrests by LEs, it's still the cheapest relative to basic costs of living.

[QUOTE=KrumeLurer;2892314]Prices on FIWFANS is not "very cheap", its what thais themselves pay. If you think that the prices you pay in a gogo bar is what thaimen pay then you are misinformed. What you pay for ST in a gogo is what you can pay here in western european countries. You should also keep in mind that in the price you see on fiwfans, the "barfine" is included in the price. The women pay 300-400 to the agency.

For 30+ ladies that is average looking thais pay around 700 baht for a visit in the appartment / hotell room and cum one time.[/QUOTE]

Don't get me going about Bangkok bar girls' rates, 4,000 plus 800 Bahts bar fine. That's 96 basic meals. Ridiculous. Thai bar pussies must be pure Lithium. Most go go and bar girls look and act so fake with their ridiculous fake assets anyway. How the hell can locals skip 96 meals to poke a bar girl?

While we enjoy companies of girls in other countries, we should try every way not to destroy the market for locals.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2892355]Follows is a quick and crude analysis of the cost of sex compared to basic meals in countries using most likely costs:

Thailand's FIWFANS prices 1,000 Bahts per pop even seem high for locals, considering a good lunch in most places, including Terminal 21 food court, costs only 50 Bahts. That's 20 meals for a pop with a girl in bed.

In Tijuana Mexico, a basic meal costs 75 pesos. Lots of street girls will do half hour sessions for 500 pesos, HK bar girls, 2400 pesos, so 6 meals for street pussies and 45 meals for clubs'. Mexican club pussies are way inflated to ridiculous levels. You don't want to have to skip 45 meals in 30 days just to poke a club girl. Mexico would be the cheapest if you just stick with street pussies, some are very nice, sweet, good-looking.

In US a McDonalds meal will cost $12. You can find street girls in LA for $100, Asian massage or escorts $120, so 10 meals for a fuck. US sex market is illegal, not efficient and in your face, but even with relentless raids, stings, arrests by LEs, it's still the cheapest relative to basic costs of living.[/QUOTE]Well have a look at gaito and compare those prices compared to a days salary and a lunch in HCMC. I have seen descent girls ask 600 etc in cities around Thailand. Many thais make 400-500 from a days work.

When it comes to dancing bars in HCMC, I guess that you can not barfine girls from them? But they are good for looking?

I have seen this on facebook.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100082641376664[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/TopTop.Tang3.So8.OChoDua[/URL]

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2892380]Don't get me going about Bangkok bar girls' rates, 4,000 plus 800 Bahts bar fine. That's 96 basic meals. Ridiculous. Thai bar pussies must be pure Lithium. Most go go and bar girls look and act so fake with their ridiculous fake assets anyway. How the hell can locals skip 96 meals to poke a bar girl?

While we enjoy companies of girls in other countries, we should try every way not to destroy the market for locals.[/QUOTE]Or destroy it for ourselves. Are regular medium looking bargirls asking for 4 k now?

I was out on thaifriendly and a girl in bkk said 2200 for ST. I said I pay a maxiumum of 1500, she replied "here is your hotel?

So many suckers out there driving up prices.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2892355]
In US a McDonalds meal will cost $12. You can find street girls in LA for $100, Asian massage or escorts $120, so 10 meals for a fuck. US sex market is illegal, not efficient and in your face, but even with relentless raids, stings, arrests by LEs, it's still the cheapest relative to basic costs of living.[/QUOTE]In the SF and LA area:

FS in AMP is US $200 minimum including house fee.

Korean AAMP is US $250+ includes everything (house, girl, no tip expected on top of the $250+).

Why Ho Chi Minh City info turned to Thailand info?

[QUOTE=Sammon;2892572]Why Ho Chi Minh City info turned to Thailand info?[/QUOTE]Yes. Lets get back to HCMC. If, I want Thailand there is an area for that!

We were comparing prices hcmc vs bkk, which is appropriate here.

Contribute your own intels before making demands.

In HCMC, organized rings pimp beautiful models, singers, movie stars for $1 / 2 K a pop and $5 / 10 K all night. There are guys loaded with money, local and foreign businessmen, who patronize that small segment. These high-class rings make the country look bad to foreigners and have been busted many times every year.

Most girls online or on the street would do a pop for 400,000 + 75,000 for ST room, total 475,000 Vnd. The most popular meal is a bowl of noodle soup 65,000 plus a coffee 25,000 total 90,000 Vnd or about $3. 50, not cheap. Average guys would need to skip 5. 28 meals for a pop with a ho, which is not bad.

2021 VN gov published GDP of $366.1 bil with 97.47 mil population, average per capita income of $3,756, or $1. 88 an hour, needs 10.7 hours of work for a pop with a ho.

But it's not credible for Vietnam per capita income to be near Thailand, which has far better infrastructure, a larger, more diverse industry base and very strong tourism industry. I suspect VN gov inflated per capital income figure by 30% just to fool investors. VN per capita income is more likely 30% less, $2,629 a year, hourly wage $1. 31 and needs 15.2 hours of work for a pop.

Girls have to work their phones, deal with many guys who just kick tires and not buy, 8 to 10 hours a day to book 1 or 2 sessions, some book none. So they have to work 4 to 5 hours to bag a guy.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;2892200]How are the costs of rooms, food and girls there compared to those in Thailand?[/QUOTE]I primarily live in HCMC for the past 18 months with almost all my visa runs to Bangkok and also a 3-month stay in Sukhumvit area.

- hotels are pretty close but HCMC wins here. $30/ night gets a much nicer place than what that buys in the tourist parts of BKK these days. Also, plenty of clean and nice places for less, across the city too.

- local food is by far cheaper and easier to find anywhere in HCMC compared to Sukhumvit area. Western / international restaurants are about the same with BKK taking the lead in the high-end places.

- pussy is by far the cheapest in Vietnam compared to practically anywhere in Asia. It's not really in your face (except Little Tokyo or Pasteur Street bars), but there's so much pussy for sale here it's insane. Vietnam has the most free market 'local' economy out of anywhere I've been in the world and there is fierce competition between the girls. There's streets where girls just ride up and down on their motorbikes slinging puss (about 500 k-800 k for these types). I have a couple good looking girls I've found that I keep in my rotation that give me full service (BBBJ too) for 1 M vnd. About 1/3 of Tinder are hookers. These girls usually ask for 1. 5-2 M vnd but I've never sampled one off a dating site out of fear they'll just take the money and run (these girls want money upfront, which is why I don't use them. I always pay after. Even in Thailand.).

With that said, Thailand wins hands down for Blowjob bars / service. NPK Street may be cheaper (400 k) but finding a solid performer that will actually put your dick in her mouth (and not just half of the head while her hand jerks it as fast as possible) is hard to find. When / if you do find that one you like, get her Zalo info incase she changes spots or if you want delivery.

Sorry for requesting information that was previously posted on this forum but I'm unable to locate the info I'm seeking through the search function.

Around 6 months ago a guy talked about the Korean section in HCM and how there were many bars and massage places there. It looked like a nice area just to walk around. I forgot the name of the area or streets he mentioned. Anyone with more info about what I'm talking about?

This report is from back in November while in HCM midway through a three month cruise. It's difficult to manage the needs of the little head when you are living on a cruise ship. Opportunities for self relief are very limited and not very satisfying and opportunity for real relief is even slimmer. Yet one hot day in HCM when we had no excursions and the better half opted to rest, I was able to get away for a few hours. Travel time to and from the ship took up most of that and the hot humid weather was equally challenging for this old timer. Staying hydrated was difficult and the good gent who posted a warning in a review I read about bringing a couple of bottles of water was understating my needs as I consumed 6 bottles in a three hour period. Anyway I walked about an hour to get to the famous street. I was wondering about the side effects of the 20 MG blue pill I took, combined with my struggle with the heat: will I be able to even perform. Then I remembered I don't have to do anything but lay back and relax, at least that is what I gathered from my reading the posts. As I got on the street I spurned offer after offer from younger guys shilling for their place and I made the way to the 112 garage type entrance and an old man took my 400 and a very acceptable gal came out and escorted me upstairs to COT in the front stall. She took off my soaked tee shirt and wiped me down as she pulled my shorts to my knees, pushed me back and made me lay down face up. She had a very nice bod with access to everything eventually taking it all off positioning her pussy where it was a foot away from my face. Between my groping, her excellent technique, the 20 mgs. And the fact that I hadn't had any real fun since Labor Day I produced an extended full throttle Orgasm into her mouth. WOW! It seemed like my Dick remembered how it was 60 years ago when at 17, I dry humped Jeanie Winkler when we were making out on her front lawn late one summer night. I took a rick-Shaw back to the shuttle bus location and drank the bottle of water that she gave me, thanking the small head Gods who showed me the way on that hot hot day.

Going to HCMC middle of March. Was talking to a GF in Phnom Penh and also Bangkok to accompany me. No reply from Bangkok girl. Seems to have vanished in thin air. Phnom Penh girl willing. She says she will spend her own money to come as long as I reimburse her for travel and compensate her for her time. It is 6 hours by bus she says. Last time we were together it was not a loving relationship. Just business. Not sure how she will be hanging together 24-7 . She was not good in bed just focusing on getting her money.

Will decide soon whether to take a blind leap. She keeps messaging me every day.

[QUOTE=Sammon;2894798]Going to HCMC middle of March. Was talking to a GF in Phnom Penh and also Bangkok to accompany me. No reply from Bangkok girl. Seems to have vanished in thin air. Phnom Penh girl willing. She says she will spend her own money to come as long as I reimburse her for travel and compensate her for her time. It is 6 hours by bus she says. Last time we were together it was not a loving relationship. Just business. Not sure how she will be hanging together 24-7 . She was not good in bed just focusing on getting her money.

Will decide soon whether to take a blind leap. She keeps messaging me every day.[/QUOTE]Hi Sammon,

There is an awesome lady from Cambodia at the Lolita bar in Japan town very GFE. This might save you some money. She is the only Cambodian girl there.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2882306]Saigon QUANG THU MASSAGE.

342/11 LY THUONG KIET. Dist 10.

DISCOUNT TO 500 K 60 nuru inclu 1 shot also full nude KTV 69 anything goes.

Pics show lots of hot girls. Very good value.[/QUOTE]Hi. Is this a FS place? Or just HJ / BJ? I'm interested but can't decipher the price list on the website. NURU is a big selling point for me if FS also involved.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2888120]Many girls work in hotel Micasa, younger, prettier, better deal than Dau Tay.

I told them about my international friends. They agreed not to turn anyone down.[/QUOTE]Thank you for your reports. Can I ask how / if you can search Gaito for specific hotels (eg micasa)? I'm trying gaito dot bio, gaigu14 dot tv and gaito dot org, and it is not immediately obvious, but I'm probably must missing it due to the language.

And is it comfortable actually making a hotel in that area (eg Micasa) an actual base? I'm thinking staying there for the week that I am in SGN as I can easily take a bolt to Little Japan etc, but spend a lot of time in my base hotel room, scouting local Gaito girls. Don't want to be in a sleazy hotel for a week, but it sounds like Micasa is actually reasonably clean and good quality? Would you recommend staying in that area or not? (First time newbie to SGN)

Sorry for all of the questions recently. I'm now caught up on RTFF, and this is my final question for now.

Has anyone had success with rimming (giving to lady) on Gaito? Some of their profiles state 'no' to 'clean the toilet', which I assume may be rimming? Not sure if that is both giving and receiving. I don't want to receive, but I really want to give, as well as DATY. Is this likely, or even possible with Gaito girls? If so, how to communicate that I want to give only, so there is no confusion?

Thanks.

I never read anything about the DJ cafes here. How have they been lately? Good DJ'n still have the best looking girls? Which others are good now in the late afternoons?

Micasa has new, nice, clean, well furnished rooms with nice large streaming TVs for 2-hour trysts with girls, but no windows. Here's a pic of the love nest. They may have bigger rooms with saunas and balconies on higher floors as I saw girls live in them take food deliveries.

Couple blocks in that area within walking distance of Micasa are quiet residential with hundreds small hotels, mostly new, some look large and good, listing daily rates 150 K- 250 K. For me to stay 1 week, I need a fairly nice, clean, quiet large room, no bugs, with a balcony so I can walk out, smoke, look at trees, good Wifi, large streaming TV, good Air con, fridge to stock beers ect. You should check their ratings on internet, narrow down to a few then walk in, check the rooms out, negotiate a deal for a week. They are mostly hurting for business, so good deals can be had. May be they will give you low ladies' rate hehe. I know many hotels in that area meet all those requirements. Once I find a place, I pay one night at a time, just in case I find a better places.

If the girls don't specifically say, " No cleaning toilet," meaning giving, they would very likely do it for a small surcharge, like 100 K. Many girls will not DATY, afraid of infections, but receiving may be easy. Best to get the ones you like in bed, show them how nice and clean you are, ask to do it for them.

Most girls working in dis 8 will walk or take quick bike rides to whatever hotel you are at for a small surcharge, like 100 K. One went all the way from her regular hotel in Phu Nhuan to meet me in Micasa (about 10 miles) without surcharge, as Phu Nhuan was being raided by police at the time hehe.

There are many massages, spas, karaoke, restaurants and street food stalls in that area. Late at night hotel reception knows where to order food delivery. Or you can dine in Boss club, massages, many karaoke joints and large local drinking places near the Trung Son rotary. They open all night. Their drinks and female companies may be expensive.

Nuru includes 1 shot, only HJ, BJ. You have to negotiate extras for FS.

There are also lots of NURU massages, spas, KTV and clubs on LE Hong Phong and Su Van Hanh in Dis 10. Walk around and ask them.

The FS massage in dis 10 was busted before CoVid. Not sure if any massage joints would do FS now. They would lose big investments in the facilities if busted.

Try Kim Cuong on Cao Ba Nha dis 1. They told me anything goes. If they think you are not LE, they would be more likely to do FS.

[QUOTE=Geano;2894863]Hi Sammon,

There is an awesome lady from Cambodia at the Lolita bar in Japan town very GFE. This might save you some money. She is the only Cambodian girl there.[/QUOTE]I will check, thanks.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2895450]Micasa has new, nice, clean, well furnished rooms with nice large streaming TVs for 2-hour trysts with girls, but no windows. Here's a pic of the love nest. They may have bigger rooms with saunas and balconies on higher floors as I saw girls live in them take food deliveries.

Couple blocks in that area within walking distance of Micasa are quiet residential with hundreds small hotels, mostly new, some look large and good, listing daily rates 150 K- 250 K. For me to stay 1 week, I need a fairly nice, clean, quiet large room, no bugs, with a balcony so I can walk out, smoke, look at trees, good Wifi, large streaming TV, good Air con, fridge to stock beers ect. You should check their ratings on internet, narrow down to a few then walk in, check the rooms out, negotiate a deal for a week. They are mostly hurting for business, so good deals can be had. May be they will give you low ladies' rate hehe. I know many hotels in that area meet all those requirements. Once I find a place, I pay one night at a time, just in case I find a better places.

If the girls don't specifically say, " No cleaning toilet," meaning giving, they would very likely do it for a small surcharge, like 100 K. Many girls will not DATY, afraid of infections, but receiving may be easy. Best to get the ones you like in bed, show them how nice and clean you are, ask to do it for them.

Most girls working in dis 8 will walk or take quick bike rides to whatever hotel you are at for a small surcharge, like 100 K. One went all the way from her regular hotel in Phu Nhuan to meet me in Micasa (about 10 miles) without surcharge, as Phu Nhuan was being raided by police at the time hehe.

There are many massages, spas, karaoke, restaurants and street food stalls in that area. Late at night hotel reception knows where to order food delivery. Or you can dine in Boss club, massages, many karaoke joints and large local drinking places near the Trung Son rotary. They open all night. Their drinks and female companies may be expensive.[/QUOTE]Thank you, I appreciate your response!

If you find a decent hotel in the Micasa area with windows / balcony, please let me know as I won't be able to view before booking. I don't need a luxurious place, just a clean place with windows and a balcony.

I suspect a lot of my mongering will be in that area. Bui Vien doesn't appeal to me after researching, and other than Linh Cherry, there is nothing else that ticks my boxes that I can see. Ideally, I'd find an area with a few bars where the ladies will boom boom with customers, but I haven't found that yet. Any suggestions, other than the Korea area (D8?

Almost all hotels in this area have large rooms with balconies. A25 has large rooms with saunas and balconies. I like their large screen streaming TVs.

Enjoy Hotel 6 B looks like a luxury love nest, with gold-plated beds and toilets, looking like Louis XIV's personal bed chamber in Versailles hehe. Being so fancy it commands $25 a night, the highest in the area. All other hotels look decent and are below $20.

Another large hotel near Micasa is upscale Sala and Sala 2 with a huge restaurant, spas, massages ect. The sign in front says all night 200 K or $7. There are many good hotel choices in this area. Stay 1 night in Micasa then check out alternatives. Let me know what you find. I may be staying in this area a few days next trip.

I know only 1 club with girls for sure in this area, Boss Karaoke Club, fronting the rotary. I met a dozen top-tiered girls here but did not partake. You should check it out and advise us.

A few other karaoke joints are within walking distances. I have not checked them out.

[QUOTE=RickRock;2274041]He was pimping himself.

'If you are staying along Bui Vien or De Tham Street, you will definitely see this "Massage Boy" on bicycles. They are riding bicycles to make hundreds of rounds at backpacker areas to find customers. They come with a unique tool to attract tourist attention by putting some steel bottle covers together and make it as a signal ringer. Their target customers are mostly gay tourist or some gay friendly straight men that are curious about their services. They normally offer massage services in customer's hotel room besides offering sex services. The price for this service can starts from VND200,000 up to VND1,000,000 depends on type of services. There are some robbery cases reported by tourist who are using this services which end up with loosing money, camera, Ipad and many other valuable items. ".

[URL]http://thevietnamguide.com/tvg/prostitution-in-pham-ngu-lao-a-never-ending-story-of-backpacker-area/[/URL][/QUOTE]I lived in Saigon for 55 days, my phone was stolen twice, and $1000 in cash was stolen.

I was playing PokéMon. Go at the entrance of 923 Park when my phone was suddenly gently taken away. I chased for 20 meters, and the robber rode his motorcycle back and returned my phone. A month later, I was playing PokéMon. Go on the roadside when a pair of beautiful women came riding a motorcycle and asked for my zalo. I gave them my phone, waited to input their zalo, and then they ran away.

I was wandering on the road when a man A came riding a motorcycle and asked if I wanted a girl? I said yes, follow him to a hotel called Hai Nam Hotel, where there are two beautiful women be and see. I chose be to enter the room. She took me into the bathroom to take a shower. Then, see and A came in to steal the cash from my backpack. I only saw the recording on my phone three days later. At that time, the phone recording was not turned off. Be gave me a shower and then played with my cock. I ejaculated and she took me out of the hotel. Then she left me and left.

[QUOTE=Lengcj69;2896421]I lived in Saigon for 55 days, my phone was stolen twice, and $1000 in cash was stolen.

I was playing PokMon.[/QUOTE]You previously said you've been to Vietnam over 100 times so you are well travelled.

Wandering around with a rucksack with a $1000 in it looking for girls.

Walking around playing PokMon. And having your phone stolen twice.

I suggest you re-evaluate the way you travel and look for girls and concentrate on the real world events instead of the virtual one.

I would also suggest you never head to somewhere like Latin America.

A fool and his money are soon parted.

Sooner in some countries than others.

People in Vietnam and Cambodia are aggressive and may rob and steal from tourists. But crimes are not common and a lot rarer than in Latin America.

It's a very bad idea going to Latin America. Besides crimes, most Latinas in Central and South America are huge, flabby, dark skin, about half have stinky pussies, disgusting. That includes Brazil, Costa Rica, Dom Rep, Peru, Bolivia ect.

Bogota, Medellin and Cartagena in Colombia have a few Colombian and Venezuelan spinners, but crimes are a lot worse than any country in Asia. Many US mongers have been drugged, robbed, tortured, murdered in Colombia. Even Mexico is far safer for mongers.

Safer to stay in Asia. Singapore, Indonesia, Malaysia, Phil, Thailand are much safer and better with lots of nice, clean beautiful girls, way lower costs too.

[QUOTE=Jingo10;2896498]You previously said you've been to Vietnam over 100 times so you are well travelled.

Wandering around with a rucksack with a $1000 in it looking for girls.

Walking around playing PokMon. And having your phone stolen twice.

I suggest you re-evaluate the way you travel and look for girls and concentrate on the real world events instead of the virtual one.

I would also suggest you never head to somewhere like Latin America.[/QUOTE]

Jingo10. You would have a high probability of a hospital stay in Latin America. I had to leave there. No peace of mind. People are nutz. Medellin Colombia where I stayed the most was one of the most dangerous. Translate this local article about 5 foreigners dying in one week. One guy was stabbed in his neck 10+ times by his date. Please visit soon. Dying to read about your visit there.

I'm not sure how this turned into a bash Latin America thread, I was trying to emphasise that a lackadaisical attitude may cause bigger issues in other countries.

I've just completed 3 months in Brazil with no issues BTW.

[QUOTE=Jingo10;2896675]I'm not sure how this turned into a bash Latin America thread, I was trying to emphasise that a lackadaisical attitude may cause bigger issues in other countries.

I've just completed 3 months in Brazil with no issues BTW.[/QUOTE]Yeah, whoever posted this nonsense, "It's a very bad idea going to Latin America. Besides crimes, most Latinas in Central and South America are huge, flabby, dark skin, about half have stinky pussies, disgusting. That includes Brazil, Costa Rica, Dom Rep, Peru, Bolivia ect," does not know what he is talking about.

In the 1st place he is lumping together a lot of very different countries with different cultures and histories. Peru. Ecuador, and Bolivia are Andean Spanish language countries with 95% of the population native or mixed race because the Inca empire was conquered, plundered and raped by the Spanish. Mexico is fucked up for similar historical reasons. The 3 Andean countries I just mentioned are very beautiful countries, however, and great for hiking or motoring around in the mountains, but I wouldn't recommend them as premiere mongering destinations. Argentina and Chile are in South America as well, but these 2 countries have a very different culture and history, and, surprise surprise, they have a ton of good-looking girls.

Brazil is an altogether different country. Colonized and settled by the Portuguese, the language is Portuguese, and it is kind of like the United States of South America. Most of my Brazilian girls are brancas (white). Stinky Brazilian pussy, give me a fuckin' break. Brasileiras are among the most beautiful girls on the planet, and nobody fucks better. Take my word for it. I 1st travelled to Brazil in April 2021 when SE Asia was still in lock down and I have not been able to tear myself away since.

On the safety issue I would rate Sao Paulo about even with Manila or Jakarta which means if you know what you are doing, stay out of certain neighborhoods, and keep your eyes open nothing bad will happen. The same advice would be valid for Paris, London, or New York. In fact, I think these latter 3 cities are more dangerous than SP or Rio.

Cambodia and Vietnam are both VASTLY safer for both locals and foreigners than the Philippines.

The Philippines has some of the highest murder and violent crime rates in Asia. The rates in the Philippines are five times higher than Cambodia or Vietnam.

The Philippines is also home to several terrorist organizations, including some known to kidnap foreigners.

There are exactly zero such organizations in Cambodia or Vietnam.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2896522]People in Vietnam and Cambodia are aggressive and may rob and steal from tourists. But crimes are not common and a lot rarer than in Latin America.

It's a very bad idea going to Latin America. Besides crimes, most Latinas in Central and South America are huge, flabby, dark skin, about half have stinky pussies, disgusting. That includes Brazil, Costa Rica, Dom Rep, Peru, Bolivia ect.

Bogota, Medellin and Cartagena in Colombia have a few Colombian and Venezuelan spinners, but crimes are a lot worse than any country in Asia. Many US mongers have been drugged, robbed, tortured, murdered in Colombia. Even Mexico is far safer for mongers.

Safer to stay in Asia. Singapore, Indonesia, Malaysia, Phil, Thailand are much safer and better with lots of nice, clean beautiful girls, way lower costs too.[/QUOTE]I can't tell if this is a joke or not, but if it is not, it is literally the most insane post I have read in 20 years on monger boards. The generalizations you make about the women in Latin America is bizard at best, and stupid and racist and just wrong. Have you ever been to Peru? Thousands of amazing woman. Have you spent five minutes in Colombia? Yes, Medellin and Bogota need care, but both are fantastic cities. Half have stinky pussies? Just stop.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2896522]People in Vietnam and Cambodia are aggressive and may rob and steal from tourists. But crimes are not common and a lot rarer than in Latin America.

It's a very bad idea going to Latin America. Besides crimes, most Latinas in Central and South America are huge, flabby, dark skin, about half have stinky pussies, disgusting. That includes Brazil, Costa Rica, Dom Rep, Peru, Bolivia ect.

Bogota, Medellin and Cartagena in Colombia have a few Colombian and Venezuelan spinners, but crimes are a lot worse than any country in Asia. Many US mongers have been drugged, robbed, tortured, murdered in Colombia. Even Mexico is far safer for mongers.

Safer to stay in Asia. Singapore, Indonesia, Malaysia, Phil, Thailand are much safer and better with lots of nice, clean beautiful girls, way lower costs too.[/QUOTE]Solo, I have been to all of these countries and lived in S. Korea, Brazil and now retired living in PI. I once had a gold baht chain stolen off my neck in Tijuana (my bad-- should not have worn it there). And my cell phone was stolen out of my hotel room while recharging in Tijuana so I disagree what you said about Mexico. In Rio my cassette headphones stolen right off my head while napping on Copacabana Beach. I live in Philippines now and the province and don't worry about theft but my buddy had his house in PI raided while he was on a business trip. In Ho Chi Minh City I saw a Vietnamese man steal another's motorbike. A few seconds later a mob of Vietnamese caught up to him, pulled him off the motorbike and beat him up. Then the cops showed up and beat him up some more. I also lost my wallet there in HCMC and recovered it from security at the building where I dropped it. Money and credit cards intact to my surprise. Been to DR 16 times and never had any problems. Maybe I'm just lucky but I admit I rarely go out late at night. Sexiest girls I been with are Venezuelans and Dominicanas and Indonesians but I love the big boobs on a small frame. Been to Medellin too and never had any problems although I was approached to buy cocaine which I do not do. Beautiful girls are in every country. Crimes of opportunity are also in every country. Especially scamming. Man, you are going to get a lot of flak about the stinky pussies and flabby, dark skin comment you made.

[QUOTE=DCups;2896750]Solo, I have been to all of these countries and lived in S. Korea, Brazil and now retired living in PI. I once had a gold baht chain stolen off my neck in Tijuana (my bad-- should not have worn it there). And my cell phone was stolen out of my hotel room while recharging in Tijuana so I disagree what you said about Mexico. In Rio my cassette headphones stolen right off my head while napping on Copacabana Beach. I live in Philippines now and the province and don't worry about theft but my buddy had his house in PI raided while he was on a business trip. In Ho Chi Minh City I saw a Vietnamese man steal another's motorbike. A few seconds later a mob of Vietnamese caught up to him, pulled him off the motorbike and beat him up. Then the cops showed up and beat him up some more. I also lost my wallet there in HCMC and recovered it from security at the building where I dropped it. Money and credit cards intact to my surprise. Been to DR 16 times and never had any problems. Maybe I'm just lucky but I admit I rarely go out late at night. Sexiest girls I been with are Venezuelans and Dominicanas and Indonesians but I love the big boobs on a small frame. Been to Medellin too and never had any problems although I was approached to buy cocaine which I do not do. Beautiful girls are in every country. Crimes of opportunity are also in every country. Especially scamming. Man, you are going to get a lot of flak about the stinky pussies and flabby, dark skin comment you made.[/QUOTE]Concur 100%. Good and bad actors are everywhere. I had my travel phone stolen in Sosua. My bad. Left it on the table. 3000 pesos stolen by a girl who was supposedly my GF who was with me many times in Manila. Chain snatched in Shenzhen, China. Fortunately it was a fake one. Other than that my monger trips were uneventful. Was drunk many times but never got hurt. In Las Vegas I picked up a girl from the bar and we had a great time. I had won 6000 dollars which I forgot to put in the safe. I was drunk with the girl hit the bars. In the morning girl was there as well as 6000 dollars on the table. So not all are bad.

As for stinky pussies and bad behavior I have found in every country. And I have gone to many many countries. There is no country specific problems. When traveling use common sense and be safe. Be selective in finding girls. I have sent home many girls with taxi money after doing the finger test on their pussies. Like anywhere some girls are meticulously clean and others hardly take a shower.

[QUOTE=Lengcj69;2896421]I lived in Saigon for 55 days, my phone was stolen twice, and $1000 in cash was stolen.
[/QUOTE]This really comes down to common sense. Following a pimp to see some girls with $1000 in cash isn't the smartest thing to do in any country, let alone a country in SEA.

Keeping your phone very close to you in countries like Cambodia, Vietnam, Indonesia, Philippines and even Thailand is a must. Never check your phone while facing the street. Even outside Classic Hotel in Jakarta the security guy will tell guys not to hold their phone out while they wait for their Grab. In Phnom Penh I was checking my phone in a tuk tuk and my Khmer girl freaked out saying someone is going to grab that while I'm inside the tuk tuk.

The Cups.

You and I go to Mexico and the Phil.

What I posted are the truths. So bring it on!

[QUOTE=DCups;2896750]Solo, I have been to all of these countries and lived in S. Korea, Brazil and now retired living in PI. I once had a gold baht chain stolen off my neck in Tijuana (my bad-- should not have worn it there). And my cell phone was stolen out of my hotel room while recharging in Tijuana so I disagree what you said about Mexico. In Rio my cassette headphones stolen right off my head while napping on Copacabana Beach. I live in Philippines now and the province and don't worry about theft but my buddy had his house in PI raided while he was on a business trip. In Ho Chi Minh City I saw a Vietnamese man steal another's motorbike. A few seconds later a mob of Vietnamese caught up to him, pulled him off the motorbike and beat him up. Then the cops showed up and beat him up some more. I also lost my wallet there in HCMC and recovered it from security at the building where I dropped it. Money and credit cards intact to my surprise. Been to DR 16 times and never had any problems. Maybe I'm just lucky but I admit I rarely go out late at night. Sexiest girls I been with are Venezuelans and Dominicanas and Indonesians but I love the big boobs on a small frame. Been to Medellin too and never had any problems although I was approached to buy cocaine which I do not do. Beautiful girls are in every country. Crimes of opportunity are also in every country. Especially scamming. Man, you are going to get a lot of flak about the stinky pussies and flabby, dark skin comment you made.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2893907]Sorry for requesting information that was previously posted on this forum but I'm unable to locate the info I'm seeking through the search function.

Around 6 months ago a guy talked about the Korean section in HCM and how there were many bars and massage places there. It looked like a nice area just to walk around. I forgot the name of the area or streets he mentioned. Anyone with more info about what I'm talking about?[/QUOTE]Google Star fitness & yoga in District 7, or Skygarden swimming pool. You'll see the whole area is kinda it's own neighborhood. Just explore all those streets.

This is the same area as my previous post, situated in D7 - Starfit fitness is in the heart of this neighborhood. Been to a few AMPS here. Most are FS but not all. Going rate seems to be 300 vnd for the 'massage' + 500 vnd for a HJ / BBBJ, or + 1 M vnd for FS. There's only two legit massage places in this entire area. All the rest are offering extras it seems. One place is literally called 'Ice Cream Massage'. Got to love Asia. Most have the faded glass doors that make it difficult to see what the girls look like (but you can see / count the bodies from the outside), so you have to walk inside to check out the merchandise. Some have doors wide open or with girls sitting outside. Most of the girls in these places are not good looking, but there are some dimes here and there. One has to definitely window shop before pulling the trigger.

One place I got a pretty good actual massage followed by a HJ and then BBBJCIM for 800 vnd all in. The massage was good and she did lots of teasing before offering the HJ. I've had the massage happy ending plenty of times before and it usually doesn't do anything for me anymore unless the teasing technique is on point. This one was. No FS offered. I asked. Can't remember the name, but if you're starting at the main busy street / highway and walking north, it's on the second street on the east side. MP is on the north side of the street. You'll see the doors open and girls hanging out in the lobby or outside. There's a pomelo shop across the street. Some decent looking girls here.

Other place I got FS a few times was Ruby Massage 2. 1. 3 M vnd. Decent looking. Tiny pussy. Not used to foreign guys. Maybe she was new. This one is on a west side street, about 3 streets north of the main highway. There's a couple AMPS on this street 4-5.

Found one girl that's a solid 7. 5-8. Great tits. Cute face. Small little Keebler elf with white skin. BBBJ skills are decent but her mouth is just as tiny as her pussy. A' for effort. She gave me a rimjob last time. Nice tongue action. She is tiny but can take a pounding. She grabs her pussy after like it's broken and points to my dick saying, "Big sye! Vietnam small sye! (holding up one small finger to illustrate what her average customer is like). I love this broken English these girls throw out. Just enough to make their customers happy and not a word more. If only western women were like this, we wouldn't need Asian hookers LOL.

I think there are some 'high-end' working girl houses in this area, and also one directly south of this neighborhood but across the main highway. Called VIP Business Club or something. Has gold doors. I've seen van limos drop off Asian men here and when the doors open it has the black light whoring lights on the inside. Might be a fancy KTV. Find the park just north of Annam Gourmet supermarket. Go to the north side of the park. Head west. Get to the intersection. Turn right. Walk north one block. Turn left / west. Walk a few meters. If it's not on that street, it's on the street directly south running parallel. The gold door VIP place is on the north side of the street. I used to have an apartment on that street. Would see street walkers hanging out near that VIP club with the gold doors but a little further west down the same street. They didn't start their shift until about 9 pm (family neighborhood kinda). Don't know if they're still slinging puss or not.

Get a burger or steak at Annam Gourmet after. It's a classy place and great bang for the buck.

[QUOTE=Trace79;2896866]Other place I got FS a few times was Ruby Massage 2. 1. 3 M vnd. Decent looking. Tiny pussy. Not used to foreign guys. Maybe she was new. This one is on a west side street, about 3 streets north of the main highway. There's a couple AMPS on this street 4-5.[/QUOTE]3 mill VND, wow! When there are cuties going for 500-700 k VND. You must have payed a premium tourist price.

[QUOTE=Trace79;2896836]Google Star fitness & yoga in District 7, or Skygarden swimming pool. You'll see the whole area is kinda it's own neighborhood. Just explore all those streets.[/QUOTE]Thank you so much, Trace. What's the earliest I can go to this area and still find a decent amount of girls?

[QUOTE=KrumeLurer;2896953]3 mill VND, wow! When there are cuties going for 500-700 k VND. You must have payed a premium tourist price.[/QUOTE]Trace said 1.3 M. It's autocorrect that messes up numbers on this site.

Where are these brick and mortar shops where I can get FS with young cute girls for 500-700k?

Hey everyone, arrived in HCMC down from Saigon, stopping in some cities on the way. Long time monger in Melbourne and Pattaya. This is my first time checking out stuff in Vietnam in HCMC.

Always preferred and used offline approach by talking in person. However, there seems to be more girls available at better rates on Gaito?

After reading the reports, am thinking of checking in at Mi casa.

Will I have to get a local sim? At present using data on my esim, but it seems the only way to get in touch with girls from Gaito is there number mentioned on their profile. And quite a few of them are not on whatsapp.

Any inputs is appreciated.

Hi Everyone,

Nice to meet you all. I have followed you all for a while but first time posting.

I visited Vietnam for the very first time and had a 2 night stay in D1 area in HCM.

Day 1.

After exploring during the day I visited Biu Vien walking street.

Lots of loud music plenty of ladies but I wasn't familiar if could pick anyone.

I don't drink so makes life a bit harder.

Anyway lots of massage girls offering massage. I asked a few questions and settled for 1 mill VND massage with boom boom.

Got taken through an alley way into a massage shop.

The massage was below average and I asked for boom boom instead. Apparently baboon.

Boom according to the girl was hand job. Which was disappointing.

Lesson learnt. I just paid and left.

Went back to hotel. Now it's 11.45. The guy at the reception says if I wanted a girl. 1. 5 mil 1 shot.

Well I asked if I can see. There were a number of girls on the phone. I picked one and the hotel guy said girl will be there in 10 minutes.

The girl looked nothing like the picture.

I went ahead. 1. 5 mil 1 shot.

Problem. Girl says you need to give me 1. 5 mil tip. Total now is 3 mil. Well I said I am happy to give 500 k.

Next video call to a guy. Apparently I need to pay. Girl refuses to leave. I call reception guy to come up.

Guy talks to the girls and sorts out. Next another phone call from reception. Really sorry but please tip her 500 k.

Done. To avoid further problems paid.

Has this happened to anyone before? Or did I get scammed.

Night 2.

Paid a visit to little Japan. Looked better than biu Vien. All the girls wanted me to buy drinks and talk. No action.

Went back to hotel. I get a message on WeChat. Agreed to 1. 5 mil. I said I have no more money. Is this ok. Of course no problem.

Girl shows up. No the best but ok. After full service says can you tip me. I said I asked you before. Apparently not. I was supposedly taking to a guy.

Need 1. 5 mil tip. Again total is now 3 mil.

Anyway she gives me a direct WeChat. Accepts 500 k and goes. Thank god avoided further issues.

Conclusion.

Bad experience for me in HCM.

Girls created problems. Want double to pay the boss. Felt like a mafia style approach.

Has this happened to anyone?

What do you do? What did I do wrong?

Feedback appreciated.

I love Thailand. Never had issues.

I have done a few bar and Wechat girls in Bui Vien district. Had a few good sessions but most turned out to be disappointments, hassles, headaches, switches, even transsexuals selling just BBBJ. I just avoid them.

3 Mil is a lot of money for a session, even the prettiest ones. You were ripped off brutally. Unfortunately there are lots of scammers around Bui Vien and areas in Dis 1. Most of those girls are controlled by pimps and gangsters. They will use any tricks or intimidations to squeeze money out of foreigners. You could just refuse to pay extras, tell then you will complain to the hotels. That will put some fear into them. If they threaten you, ask hotel to call police. They would back off. Cops would rarely show up. If they show they would play arbitrators, no hassles, no records. Tell the hotels to never let those girls back in their rooms to cause problems.

Book appointments with Gaito. Org in dis 8 or 10. Sessions cost between 300 K to 700 K with 100 K for a ST room. I had many hot, sexy sessions with some nice, clean, beautiful girls. Never had problems. Next trip I will stay in the fancy Enjoy Hotel 7 or Enjoy Hotel 6 B in dis 8 for $16 a night in Dis 8 and book girls in that area.

About 5,000 girls list their services in dis 8 alone, another 4,000 in dis 10 only 2 miles away. You can get girls from other districts to ride to your hotel for 200 K extra.

Stay in your hotel and ask girls to come to you. Don't get suckered into going into dark, narrow, filthy alleys regardless how good the pics look or what girls promise you. You may be lured in and set up for traps, get robbed or assaulted by druggies and criminals. A tough guy I know got beat up and robbed.

I was planning to visit Vietnam earlier this year but went to Indonesia instead because I could sense that the country had way too many scams going on. Could not be happier with my decsion.

[QUOTE=Curiousex;2900295]Hi Everyone,

Nice to meet you all. I have followed you all for a while but first time posting.

I visited Vietnam for the very first time and had a 2 night stay in D1 area in HCM.

Day 1.

After exploring during the day I visited Biu Vien walking street.

Lots of loud music plenty of ladies but I wasn't familiar if could pick anyone.

I don't drink so makes life a bit harder.

Anyway lots of massage girls offering massage. I asked a few questions and settled for 1 mill VND massage with boom boom.

Got taken through an alley way into a massage shop.

The massage was below average and I asked for boom boom instead. Apparently baboon.

Boom according to the girl was hand job. Which was disappointing.

Lesson learnt. I just paid and left.

Went back to hotel. Now it's 11.45. The guy at the reception says if I wanted a girl. 1. 5 mil 1 shot.

Well I asked if I can see. There were a number of girls on the phone. I picked one and the hotel guy said girl will be there in 10 minutes.

The girl looked nothing like the picture.

I went ahead. 1. 5 mil 1 shot.

Problem. Girl says you need to give me 1. 5 mil tip. Total now is 3 mil. Well I said I am happy to give 500 k.

Next video call to a guy. Apparently I need to pay. Girl refuses to leave. I call reception guy to come up.

Guy talks to the girls and sorts out. Next another phone call from reception. Really sorry but please tip her 500 k.

Done. To avoid further problems paid.

Has this happened to anyone before? Or did I get scammed.

Night 2.

Paid a visit to little Japan. Looked better than biu Vien. All the girls wanted me to buy drinks and talk. No action.

Went back to hotel. I get a message on WeChat. Agreed to 1. 5 mil. I said I have no more money. Is this ok. Of course no problem.

Girl shows up. No the best but ok. After full service says can you tip me. I said I asked you before. Apparently not. I was supposedly taking to a guy.

Need 1. 5 mil tip. Again total is now 3 mil.

Anyway she gives me a direct WeChat. Accepts 500 k and goes. Thank god avoided further issues.

Conclusion.

Bad experience for me in HCM.

Girls created problems. Want double to pay the boss. Felt like a mafia style approach.

Has this happened to anyone?

What do you do? What did I do wrong?

Feedback appreciated.

I love Thailand. Never had issues.[/QUOTE]

Thank you Captain Solo for your valuable advice. Next time if I ever go back I will use Gaito.

There are definitely very pretty ladies out there but they do lack that GFE.

If I do go back I will share my experience.

Plan77 I have to agree. I was in Bali in December and had a much more pleasant experience.

[QUOTE=Plan77;2900703]I was planning to visit Vietnam earlier this year but went to Indonesia instead because I could sense that the country had way too many scams going on. [/QUOTE]Like Thailand, I call Ho Chi Minh LOS as well. LOS means Land of Smiles in Thailand but in HCM I call it Land of Scams.

You have to be here long enough to learn the scams and avoid them. I let my guard down the other night and was hit by a scam in Little Japan. More later in the correct thread.

Although have been to Hanoi with my Thai GF at that time stayed for a week, this time wanted to visit Ho Chi Minh City.

Landed in the morning and having read taxi scams and exchange counter scams was wary. Fellow long time traveler at immigration helped me. Changed $100 at decent rate. 24500 Dong for a dollar. Seems fair. Long line at immigration and it too better part of an hour. Seems like everyone is headed here. Once outside my friend advised me to get into only green Vinasun taxi. There was a lady in green jacked helped me. Guy put on the meter. Grab is not allowed to pick up from airport. Traffic is horrendous. Anyway reached my hotel and the cost was 47000 but I gave the driver 50000. Staying at Sotestu Grand Fresa. Excellent small hotel. Pretty new and fantastic room with breakfast. Best rates on Agoda. Since I booked for two check in guy said if I wanted to bring a girl it should be done before 9 pm. They do not allow any girls after that. Nice guy.

Was jet lagged and took a shower and slept.

Got up at 6 pm could not get a grab to go to seafood street in district 4. Hopped on a grab moto but he took me to a wrong place. However had a nice long walk along the river and I needed it. Had excellent cheap spicy seafood at the seafood street. Just sit at the busy places there so that you know which are popular. Plenty of tourists. Did not see any young girls walking the street.

At last grab us available. He too me to the bar street. Plenty of girls outside but no street walkers. I was hoping to get one and take to the hotel. No such luck. Went to 4 bars and cheap beer. None of the girls look pretty. Hardly anyone spoke English. Mamasan with broken English asked me to pick one but I did not. After beer I left. Do not know what the set up was. Did not venture into Japanese high end establishments. My take is unless you know someone or have serious money to burn and navigate all the scams this is not a place to have fun for visitors.

I might just stick to touristy things. Things seem very cheap here. Lots of expats living here.

[QUOTE=Sammon;2901535]Grab is not allowed to pick up from airport. Traffic is horrendous. Anyway reached my hotel and the cost was 47000 but I gave the driver 50000. Staying at Sotestu Grand Fresa. [/QUOTE]Grab can pick you up at the airport. However, if you got a Vinasun taxi for 47k Dong (1.99 USD) in heavy traffic you did way better than Grab. My Grab costed me 120k from SGN to my hotel within a km from where you stayed and traffic was lighter than usual.

[QUOTE=Sammon;2901535]Went to 4 bars and cheap beer. None of the girls look pretty. Hardly anyone spoke English. Mamasan with broken English asked me to pick one but I did not. After beer I left.[/QUOTE]

I'm assuming you went to Bui Vien? That's the only "bar street" I can think of that has mamasans. Plus you added none of the girls are pretty. Pasteur and Little Japan aren't set up like tourist trap Bui Vien. Vietnam isn't like Thailand, PP, PI, etc. It takes some getting used to. You should check out the Pasteur Street bars. Straight forward no scams. Girls speak English because most of their customers are Farang. Very friendly. Tons of girls so I'm sure you will find someone you like. Go later around 8 or 9 pm. If you go at 10 or 11 pm you may need to step inside the bars as most pretty girls will already have customers. On weekends some bars remain open all night if there are customers.

Wish I knew you were coming. I would have met up with you to take you around HCM. I just left.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2901588]Grab can pick you up at the airport. However, if you got a Vinasun taxi for 47k Dong (1.99 USD) in heavy traffic you did way better than Grab. My Grab costed me 120k from SGN to my hotel within a km from where you stayed and traffic was lighter than usual.



I'm assuming you went to Bui Vien? That's the only "bar street" I can think of that has mamasans. Plus you added none of the girls are pretty. Pasteur and Little Japan aren't set up like tourist trap Bui Vien. Vietnam isn't like Thailand, PP, PI, etc. It takes some getting used to. You should check out the Pasteur Street bars. Straight forward no scams. Girls speak English because most of their customers are Farang. Very friendly. Tons of girls so I'm sure you will find someone you like. Go later around 8 or 9 pm. If you go at 10 or 11 pm you may need to step inside the bars as most pretty girls will already have customers. On weekends some bars remain open all night if there are customers.

Wish I knew you were coming. I would have met up with you to take you around HCM. I just left.[/QUOTE]My bad. Taxi from the airport was 140000. I got confused with what I paid Grab to go to seafood street in zone 4.

On the way back I asked the Grab guy to drop me at the bar street. Maybe you are right. He dropped me at the wrong street. Maybe it is for locals only.

Last two days were spent taking tours. No energy to hunt.

Too bad I could have used the help from you.

My original plan was to bring the Thai girl for this vacation. Although she promised 6 months ago she will could not get in touch with her. Maybe she found a better boyfriend LOL. My other option was for the Cambodian girl to do the trip. Although she was friendly and wanted to come I was waiting for Thai girl. Oh well. Live and learn.

Next stop tomorrow is Kaulalampur.

I'm a long time lurker. I'm visiting Vietnam. Haven't been back in over 20 years. I wanted to see if there is any girls in District 5. I do know Vietnamese.

[QUOTE=Supaflyz;2901965]I'm a long time lurker. I'm visiting Vietnam. Haven't been back in over 20 years. I wanted to see if there is any girls in District 5. I do know Vietnamese.[/QUOTE]Yes. Gaito.

Hello fellow mongers.

I'm normally on the USA side but lucky me get to go on a guy trip in Asia and we are hitting Vietnam for a few days. Read the various HCMC threads and was able to get plenty of information on everything we need. We are planning on using a special travel agency that specializes in these types of trips They quoted as the expected market rate and would like to see if it is what it is or way inflated. One shot FS 2. 6-5 m, Overnight 5. 5-7. 0 m. We do have one guy going that has been so can wing it if we need to. Just trying to figure out if the agency is worth it or not. Main thing they are doing for us is the hotel and taking us to the various nighttime establishments. TIA.

[QUOTE=HornyOC;2904746]Hello fellow mongers.

I'm normally on the USA side but lucky me get to go on a guy trip in Asia and we are hitting Vietnam for a few days. Read the various HCMC threads and was able to get plenty of information on everything we need. We are planning on using a special travel agency that specializes in these types of trips They quoted as the expected market rate and would like to see if it is what it is or way inflated. One shot FS 2. 6-5 m, Overnight 5. 5-7. 0 m. We do have one guy going that has been so can wing it if we need to. Just trying to figure out if the agency is worth it or not. Main thing they are doing for us is the hotel and taking us to the various nighttime establishments. TIA.[/QUOTE]I have never been there either but will be later this year. I am shocked by your post.

1. Simply go to a site like [URL]www.xe.com[/URL] and input those numbers to see if they make any sense. Example of short time at a high price of 5 m VND = $200 USD. Are you mental?

2. You could read this website for 3 hours or less if you use the search function and answer your own question. But you said you did that. So you can read but you have no comprehension abilities?

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[QUOTE=LoveItHere;2904773]I have never been there either but will be later this year. I am shocked by your post.

1. Simply go to a site like [URL]www.xe.com[/URL] and input those numbers to see if they make any sense. Example of short time at a high price of 5 m VND = $200 USD. Are you mental?

2. You could read this website for 3 hours or less if you use the search function and answer your own question. But you said you did that. So you can read but you have no comprehension abilities?

3. You have a guy that has already been there and he is an idiot that does not know the answer to this? God help you![/QUOTE]If you read again, I am going there (as in not yet). I also think the price is not in line with the norm so not quite mental yet. I am trying to do my homework before I go so no need to be such as a-hole about it. Was told the influx of tourists such as myself is driving up the prices, its plausible so checking with you guys. I know there is different tiers and the range will vary, the going rate is 1-2 m range for short and maybe 2-3 at little tokyo area. And massages w / HH is in the 400-600 k range.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere;2904773]I have never been there either but will be later this year. I am shocked by your post.

1. Simply go to a site like [URL]www.xe.com[/URL] and input those numbers to see if they make any sense. Example of short time at a high price of 5 m VND = $200 USD. Are you mental?

2. You could read this website for 3 hours or less if you use the search function and answer your own question. But you said you did that. So you can read but you have no comprehension abilities?

3. You have a guy that has already been there and he is an idiot that does not know the answer to this? God help you![/QUOTE]First of all, you don't have to be a complete a-hole. You can certainly say the "prices quoted is crazy or it would be mental to pay those prices" and it would appreciated, but you have to idea who I am and I of you so no need to be jerk.

Also think the price quoted is quite high that's why we are asking. Been seeing posts recently with people paying up to 3 m for short time and been told that high influx of tourists has been driving up the prices. Don't want to be the chump that pays US prices for it there but also don't want to be a cheap ass, the girls are all making a living and shouldn't be short changed.

Based on what I read here, the going rates (YMMV) are 1-2 m short FS and higher in the little Japan area (2-3 m), HH / BJ 400-600 k. Some places specializes in foreign tourists (Chinese, English.) and would expect to pay a slight premium.

(Its been a few hours and did see the reply so excuse if its a dupe).

[QUOTE=HornyOC;2904821]First of all, you don't have to be a complete a-hole. You can certainly say the "prices quoted is crazy or it would be mental to pay those prices" and it would appreciated, but you have to idea who I am and I of you so no need to be jerk.

Also think the price quoted is quite high that's why we are asking. Been seeing posts recently with people paying up to 3 m for short time and been told that high influx of tourists has been driving up the prices. Don't want to be the chump that pays US prices for it there but also don't want to be a cheap ass, the girls are all making a living and shouldn't be short changed.

Based on what I read here, the going rates (YMMV) are 1-2 m short FS and higher in the little Japan area (2-3 m), HH / BJ 400-600 k. Some places specializes in foreign tourists (Chinese, English.) and would expect to pay a slight premium.

(Its been a few hours and did see the reply so excuse if its a dupe).[/QUOTE]BBBJCIM is 400 k max. I don't pay for HJ. I can do it better myself.

Anybody paying more than 1 M for FS is indeed stupid. You can find plenty of girls yourself on a famous website for 500 k /700 k.

RTFF again dude.

[QUOTE=Plan77;2900703]I was planning to visit Vietnam earlier this year but went to Indonesia instead because I could sense that the country had way too many scams going on. Could not be happier with my decsion.[/QUOTE]I like vietnam myself. Some of the best looking girls in SEA IMO.

The thing is there is a learning curve.

Things are way easier or straight forward in INDO.

[QUOTE=HornyOC;2904746]Hello fellow mongers.

I'm normally on the USA side but lucky me get to go on a guy trip in Asia and we are hitting Vietnam for a few days. Read the various HCMC threads and was able to get plenty of information on everything we need. We are planning on using a special travel agency that specializes in these types of trips They quoted as the expected market rate and would like to see if it is what it is or way inflated. One shot FS 2. 6-5 m, Overnight 5. 5-7. 0 m. We do have one guy going that has been so can wing it if we need to. Just trying to figure out if the agency is worth it or not. Main thing they are doing for us is the hotel and taking us to the various nighttime establishments. TIA.[/QUOTE]Those prices will include a hefty cut for your "agency". Actual prices will be half or less if you walk in by yourself.

Visiting to Ho CHI MINH in second week, what does and do not to have fun in the city.

More like Land of Shit!

I was staying at the Liberty Green View hotel on Pham Ngu Lao, drink coffee and beers with friends on sidewalks. All city and tour buses have stops on that street. Lots of foreign tourists walk around, but every few feet there are big piles of dog shit that they constantly have to be on alert to step around. If these stupid fuckers want to keep their dogs, they have to clean up after them or just eat the shit themselves. There are also all sorts of smelly trash, vomit, mud and dirt. It's one of the most disgusting places to visit.

As you sit at any place for meals, coffee or beers, a legion of scruffy street vendors walk or ride motorbikes up and down the streets, bellowing announcements, try to make personal friendships to sell lottery tickets, sun glasses, hats, fruits, food, all sorts of junks nobody needs. They are insistent and very annoying. There are new national laws banning begging on the streets, so they all sell lottery tickets. Damn shit. If you refuse to make contact or buy from them, they would try to manipulate your feelings, or outright swearing, threatening victims. I had to call the police and ask the waiters to chase away these rude, stupid, pesky street vendors, but a few came back, showing hostility and threats.

I had been traveling through many countries in Asia like Thailand, Singapore, Indonesia in the last trip, eating street food with no problem, but I consciously avoided street food in HCMC, only ate hot soup in restaurants. On Pham Ngu Lao there were a couple food stands that grilled smoky pork patties served with bread, like banh mi with hot grilled pork. I thought it was novel and interesting so I bought 1 serving. 2 hours later I came down with food poisoning, had severe cramps and diarrhea for over 7 days, ruined my vacation. Damn stupid assholes. I was really pissed off. Hotel gave me tel for Security Police. They said to report it to the Ward's People's Committee nearby. I walked over with diarrhea out of my ass to report a public health hazards to potentially hundreds of tourists. The 6 guys sitting in that office were gulping down street food for lunch, gave me some lip service but did not indicate any actions. They likely think it's normal for hundreds of people to have diarrhea in Vietnam.

I took a few diarrhea control meds but was still sick a couple nights later, and the grilled pork stands were still smoking and selling unabated. I walked back to the People's Committee. The guys said, office is closed at night, they are only doormen, go to Security Police Office on Bui Vien. I walked over the office right between the hoes bars, couple plainclothes guys sat around picking on their asses, doing nothing. I explained the problem to the lieutenant, who showed some concerns. He recognized the food vendor, said that family operates 5 or 6 grilled pork stands on that street, a case of failure to secure food safety, but he did not mention any remedy. Street vendors require no licensing and no training about food safety. What the fuck could the police lieutenant do? I told the guy to solve the food safety problem in his ward, or I would spread the bad news all over the world and destroy his asshole tourism business. He frowned but did not promise any actions. Damn stupid, irresponsible assholes.

I am not convinced that even food in HCMC restaurants and hotels are safe. I ate only boiling hot Pho and noodle soups cooked right in front of me from then on, no uncooked veggies, no fried or grilled food, no precooked food, seemed to avoid more diarrhea.

HCMC and Hanoi are the worst shitholes, home of the rudest, stupidest, most aggressive, most dishonest, most crooked, most obstinate people in the world. In comparison Thai people are happy, easy going, fair, fun, honest. Besides desperate young girls, I don't know why people would want to visit Vietnam with almost all locals constantly looking for ways to take unfair advantages of others. A good example, just look at the way they ride their bikes or drive their cars, always seizing the few feet of roads in front of them, riding on sidewalks, hitting people, blocking intersections, all sorts of stupid, ugly, selfish shit by everyone. The average people's attitude is just so outright bad in this country. I swore and used my middle finger a lot for stupid, savaged assholes in Vietnam.

Will make a translation of this rant and mail to the Ward's People Committee, Security Police, CC to the Communist Party General Secretary, president and prime minister. May be if they are not busy stealing from the country and people, they even have a few minutes to improve a few things. They will never know who Captain Solo is. If they do, they may even give him a " Glorious Labor Hero" or some bullshit medal.

Here's Diem Trang on GAITO. ORG, beautiful all natural body with perfect skin and a shy, sexy smile. She went with me in hotel Micasa district 8 for $20.

Thanks for the report.

Can you please DM me her gaito profile link?

I didn't find anyone from gaito yet who comes to my hotel.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2906712]More like Land of Shit!

I was staying at the Liberty Green View hotel on Pham Ngu Lao, drink coffee and beers with friends on sidewalks. All city and tour buses have stops on that street. Lots of foreign tourists walk around, but every few feet there are big piles of dog shit that they constantly have to be on alert to step around. If these stupid fuckers want to keep their dogs, they have to clean up after them or just eat the shit themselves. There are also all sorts of smelly trash, vomit, mud and dirt. It's one of the most disgusting places to visit.

As you sit at any place for meals, coffee or beers, a legion of scruffy street vendors walk or ride motorbikes up and down the streets, bellowing announcements, try to make personal friendships to sell lottery tickets, sun glasses, hats, fruits, food, all sorts of junks nobody needs. They are insistent and very annoying. There are new national laws banning begging on the streets, so they all sell lottery tickets. Damn shit. If you refuse to make contact or buy from them, they would try to manipulate your feelings, or outright swearing, threatening victims. I had to call the police and ask the waiters to chase away these rude, stupid, pesky street vendors, but a few came back, showing hostility and threats.

I had been traveling through many countries in Asia like Thailand, Singapore, Indonesia in the last trip, eating street food with no problem, but I consciously avoided street food in HCMC, only ate hot soup in restaurants. On Pham Ngu Lao there were a couple food stands that grilled smoky pork patties served with bread, like banh mi with hot grilled pork. I thought it was novel and interesting so I bought 1 serving. 2 hours later I came down with food poisoning, had severe cramps and diarrhea for over 7 days, ruined my vacation. Damn stupid assholes. I was really pissed off. Hotel gave me tel for Security Police. They said to report it to the Ward's People's Committee nearby. I walked over with diarrhea out of my ass to report a public health hazards to potentially hundreds of tourists. The 6 guys sitting in that office were gulping down street food for lunch, gave me some lip service but did not indicate any actions. They likely think it's normal for hundreds of people to have diarrhea in Vietnam..[/QUOTE]

Hi Folks,

I have a business trip coming up in Asia, and I was thinking to take a detour to either Bangkok or Ho-Chi. I have been to BKK a couple of times, stayed near Nana plaza and had fun time there with some good hot thai gals.

I have not been to Vietnam, this will be my first if I choose to do that. Do you recommend Ho-Chi over BKK? Are there good agencies or go go bars in Ho-Chi like they have in BKK?

I see Gaito site being mentioned, can you get outcalls easily from that site? I am not someone who likes to go to their hotels / condos, I prefer my hotel for that hence OUTCALLS only. I never had luck with FIWFANS in BKK, most of those gals prefer incalls only.

Any thoughts are appreciated.

[QUOTE=Dumbc;2910626]Hi Folks,

I have a business trip coming up in Asia, and I was thinking to take a detour to either Bangkok or Ho-Chi. I have been to BKK a couple of times, stayed near Nana plaza and had fun time there with some good hot thai gals.

I have not been to Vietnam, this will be my first if I choose to do that. Do you recommend Ho-Chi over BKK? Are there good agencies or go go bars in Ho-Chi like they have in BKK?

I see Gaito site being mentioned, can you get outcalls easily from that site? I am not someone who likes to go to their hotels / condos, I prefer my hotel for that hence OUTCALLS only. I never had luck with FIWFANS in BKK, most of those gals prefer incalls only.

Any thoughts are appreciated.[/QUOTE]- I have been to both in the last year. Bangkok x2 and vietnam HCMC, and Hanoi. I really enjoyed my time in Saigon / HCMC. The mongering opportunities are 1st class. I hit up a couple of areas including walking street which I hated. The best area is Japan town or little Tokyo. Yes it's not a typo, there is a huge 4 block radius pedestrian only zone full of hostess bars, asian massage places, sake, sushi restaurants in the middle of Saigon. It's awesome. It's full of Japanese, Korean, and a few white guys all ballin' out. Plenty of hotels in that part of town which can be higher end or mid level. Not a lot of super cheap options but the 4 - star ones were only like $80/ night.

Skip the hostess bars they are a rip off and not what I'm looking for. Girls just chat you up and run up a big drink tab. I don't drink.

Hit the massage places in Japan town which are the ones where the girls are all dressed the same (traditional Ao Dai dress) and are seated outside flirting w / guys.

There are more than a few. The mamasan will come out when you enter and give you a line up of possibilities about 25 girls in the evenings. One of the best ones I found was Linh Cherry.

Google this: Massage Linh Cherry Quan 1.

Cost was like 2 mil. Dong. House gets like 1 mil. And girl gets 1 mil. For full service including the whole soapy massage and hot tub play with then full service.

2 mil. Dong is about $ 80 USD.

Thank me later. .

BKK is way better than HCMC or Hanoi in just about every aspects of life, including mongering.

If you have not been in HCMC, try it out for a new experience, but it's not worth repeating.

I was staying at hotels A25, Liberty Parkview and Liberty Greenview on Pham Ngu Lao in Dis 1, since all tour, city and regional buses pick up on that street and it's next to noisy bar street Bui Vien where there are lots of restaurants all night. A lot of tourists walk this street but sidewalk has lots of parked motos blocking pedestrians, also lots of big piles of dog shit and rotting gabbage to avoid.

Many Gaitos in Dis 1 will go to hotels, but they are mostly older, heavy, crude, unattractive, some even outright ugly. They have bad attitudes, demand about twice the rates in other districts and will likely pull some tricks. Out of more than a dozen, I had only one who looked good like her posted pics and gave me a good, sexy session. Late at night obvious hookers walk that street or stand in the alley waiting for mongers and would walk to your hotel. They were all old, heavy, ugly, filthy, tatted. I would not even consider any hooker in Dis 1, but if you are seriously hard up, try them. Hotel A25 seem to know these girls and would let them in, no question. Liberty hotels are family oriented and may cause problems.

Consider staying in the compact red light area in leafy Dis 8, only 2 miles from Bui Vien. About 5,000 girls work in hotels in that area, charging 200 K to 1 Mil, and can walk a short block from one to the next. Hotels Enjoy 7 or 8 or Micasa are nice, clean, modern, even luxury. They have kick back arrangements with the girls so they will go there. Alternately you can easily walk to any hotel the girls prefer in that area.

Thank you both for replying.

It seems you both had somewhat different experiences. I prefer outcalls. So it seems like Gaito is hit or miss. I was considering to stay in Dis 1, as most of big brand hotels are in that area. But I guess Dis 8 might be better.

So is go go bar type option is a full no?

Are there reliable agencies?

[QUOTE=Alexander2211;2910787]- I have been to both in the last year. Bangkok x2 and vietnam HCMC, and Hanoi. I really enjoyed my time in Saigon / HCMC. The mongering opportunities are 1st class. I hit up a couple of areas including walking street which I hated. The best area is Japan town or little Tokyo. Yes it's not a typo, there is a huge 4 block radius pedestrian only zone full of hostess bars, asian massage places, sake, sushi restaurants in the middle of Saigon. It's awesome. It's full of Japanese, Korean, and a few white guys all ballin' out. Plenty of hotels in that part of town which can be higher end or mid level. Not a lot of super cheap options but the 4 - star ones were only like $80/ night.

Skip the hostess bars they are a rip off and not what I'm looking for. Girls just chat you up and run up a big drink tab. I don't drink.

Hit the massage places in Japan town which are the ones where the girls are all dressed the same (traditional Ao Dai dress) and are seated outside flirting w / guys.

There are more than a few. The mamasan will come out when you enter and give you a line up of possibilities about 25 girls in the evenings. One of the best ones I found was Linh Cherry.

Google this: Massage Linh Cherry Quan 1.

Cost was like 2 mil. Dong. House gets like 1 mil. And girl gets 1 mil. For full service including the whole soapy massage and hot tub play with then full service.

2 mil. Dong is about $ 80 USD.

Thank me later. .[/QUOTE][QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2910974]BKK is way better than HCMC or Hanoi in just about every aspects of life, including mongering.

If you have not been in HCMC, try it out for a new experience, but it's not worth repeating.

I was staying at hotels A25, Liberty Parkview and Liberty Greenview on Pham Ngu Lao in Dis 1, since all tour, city and regional buses pick up on that street and it's next to noisy bar street Bui Vien where there are lots of restaurants all night. A lot of tourists walk this street but sidewalk has lots of parked motos blocking pedestrians, also lots of big piles of dog shit and rotting gabbage to avoid..[/QUOTE]

Landed this lunchtime. I'm in negotiations with some independents I found on the 'nearby' function on WeChat and Telegram. Hot studentsy types. Offering massage and FS ST or overnights. One quoted 1. 5 m for 1 HR mass and sex or 3. 5 overnight. Might check out some SW later. Am in D1. If things aren't fruitful here, might head out to D8 or somewhere.

[QUOTE=MissMaryHinge;2912229]Landed this lunchtime. I'm in negotiations with some independents I found on the 'nearby' function on WeChat and Telegram. Hot studentsy types. Offering massage and FS ST or overnights. One quoted 1. 5 m for 1 HR mass and sex or 3. 5 overnight. Might check out some SW later. Am in D1. If things aren't fruitful here, might head out to D8 or somewhere.[/QUOTE]Keep us posted!! Hopefully next month at this time ill be in D1 also. If you hit some home runs let me know.

Hi all.

I lurk the pages here and thought it about time to contribute. Give back to community.

Straight into it.

Visited Cherry Spa in Little Tokyo day 1. Went inside and ask details of full service and full costs. Told 500 k +3 mill tip. I said no and I could go Linh Cherry for better deal. I said 2 mill tip and it was agreed. Asked to see all girls as only few shown. In they came, around 20 and took my pick.

I picked Sky.

Upstairs, before starting anything I said 2 mill tip so no nonsense at end. She said yes.

Regular shower and pretty nice massage. I like soft and feather touch. Then came the flip over onto my back. She performed well will attention to whole body with her lips and hands. Out came condom, which I put on just in case size or incorrect placing. The she got on top and rode me like a rodeo horse. Lovely.

Next doggy, which was pleasure next to mirror. Finally pulled out to take condom off and get BBBJ finish in her mouth. She said no so finished on her body. After I ask why. She gave story about bed toothache. Although good story, is bullshit.

Washed up after, pairs and left.

Looks: 7/10.

Performance: 7/10.

Body: 8/10 (natural).

WIR: yes.

Cost: 500 k downstairs. 2 mill Tip.

Will share day 2 later. Day 2 was telegram nears me function.

Day 2.

Shorter report.

Used Telegram function 'find people nearby', was in District 1. Many WG on there.

Went through a few and messaged some.

A few messaged back and told them what I wanted to see if they would do what I wanted.

Most said yes. Was looking for FS, BBBJ, CIM and swallow.

Decided to go with Me Lin.

Within 15 minutes she was at my hotel. Point here. I locked everything away in the safe apart from money we agreed and also used fake name.

Went down to collect her. She was probably 80% of her pic, so was happy as I know that I could have been very shocked. Went up stairs and she showered. Over she came and I confirmed the amount, which she agreed.

Deed started, then moving onto other acts, but she said no. She only gives FS. I completely lost the mood and said no. Stop. Gave her the money and told her to leave. Decided to give her full amount so not to have any issues. She left and I actually felt lucky that I made a decision rapidly.

I knew it was a gamble for Telegram, but nothing ventured nothing gained.

Looks: 7/10.

Performance: 3/10.

Body: 7/10.

WIR: no.

Cost: 1 mill.

Next review Day 3. District 1 MP, Hot Toc and Pasteur Rd bar.

Thanks for the reviews Dudalloo. Too bad about the Telegram, at least it was only 1 m. What services did she not willing to do? You mean (BBBJ, CIM, swallow)? If you like BBBJ, CIM. You can try the BJ shops at NPK street.

[QUOTE=HornyOC;2916753]Thanks for the reviews Dudalloo. Too bad about the Telegram, at least it was only 1 m. What services did she not willing to do? You mean (BBBJ, CIM, swallow)? If you like BBBJ, CIM. You can try the BJ shops at NPK street.[/QUOTE]Indeed. 1 mill hit is not end of the world.

She refused BBBJ, CIM and swallow.

After work, around 7 pm went to Kaka Spa, district 1 for massage and to see what might be on offer. Lovely young lady took me upstairs for 60 min body massage. Very good skills. Was very nice. Nothing hinted or mentioned about extras, so I decided not to even ask. Just enjoyed massage. Paid 400 k and gave her 200 k tip downstairs as I left.

Due to having an itch, decided to go to NPK. Taxi took me to the top of road and started to make my way down to check what was on offer. Within 60 seconds, dude ran over from a Hot Toc offering 400 k. As I know this is standard for foreigner, decided to go see girls. Average girl was around 5/10, but saw a 6-7/10 and went with her.

My first experience in a Hot Toc and I must say it was grim. Decided to see it out so I can tick off bucket list. Girl brought bowl of warm water and loads of sealed wet wipes. Then proceeded to clean my knob like it was a crystal chandelier. Probably 5 minutes of cleaning which at times I told her to calm down as she rubbed too hard. Once cleaned to her satisfaction, I bottled it a bit and decided to go for a covered BJ. Deed done with me at end whipping condom off to CIM.

Was cleaned up, went downstairs and paid.

Experience was a little grueling so went back to hotel for a bit.

Around 11 pm went to walking street to see sights and got some freelancer numbers. Each was asking around 1 mill. Didn't fancy it, but took numbers just in case for later. Decided to go Pasteur St as it would be a little quieter.

It is lovely to walk down street with all girls calling you in. However decided to go to Kim's Tavern as appeared to have good reviews. Inside it was a little busy, but girls in there are about 7 or 8/10. Got chatting and bought some drinks. There are no 'lady drinks' like Bangkok. Each drink is about 200 k. I had beer which was 55 k, so decided what the hell and got a lady drink for girl. Nice chat, nice back and thigh rubs, but about it. Was told to come back next day for a special event.

Day 4 tomorrow. Kims Tavern, Gaito. Org.

Hi, I'm an old European but goodlooking. I don't have white hair. Jejeje I know the Philippines well. , because I have been there several times 10 years ago. Usually I book an apartment and was looking for a nice girl via social networks and stayed with her 10 days. I always get a wonderful GF experience. They enjoyed being with me. We cooked together, watched TV, laughed, etc. I have never gone to the bar to look for them. Is it easy for me to get all that in Vietnam? I'd like to live wth her for 2 weeks. If I want to give some money to a girl who stays with me full time for 14 days, how much can I give to a nice regular girl? If you want you can send me a PM, but I need information please. Thank you.

Just curious to know which is cheaper for mongering between Thailand and Vietnam. What I mean is where would a young girl who is an 8 in terms of beauty would be cheaper between Vietnam and Thailand?

Also it might come down to personal preference but who do you find prettier between a Thai and a Vietnamese.

And finally in general where between the two countries mongering is the easiest with very little hassle and overall between the two which countries' girls offer a better experience?

Sure, here's a corrected version:

Hi all, this is my first time in Ho Chi Minh City. I didn't get a SIM card with a number to reach out to any Gaito girls, so I resorted to using Tinder.

Tinder is a scam. I met my first girl, who was good-looking, and she took me to a bar and ordered a 500 k drink. I said I wasn't interested and left. Then I met a second girl who looked nothing like her pictures, but I still went with it. She took 1.3 million before sex and started shouting when I said I would pay after the deed. The room was 500 k with a jacuzzi, and I spent only 10 minutes in total there. She was very hostile and did nothing.

It was the worst experience of my life. Be aware and never use Tinder for such purposes.

Vietnam is cheaper but there is a learning curve. Vietnam is much more scammy than Thailand as the reports show. I just spent a month in Thailand and easily slept with 60 plus girls without even going out that much. Averaged around like $35-40 us dollars.

In Vietnam, only been to Hanoi and the Nang so far, and prices are around $25-30 on average (Going to Go Chi Minh next). It can be more depending where you go or what method you use like Gaito, Gaigoi, Line people nearby function, Tinder, Bumble, etc. In Vietnam, there are many spas, massage parlors, bars, etc. But they will try to scam you by up charging, bait and switch, fake pictures, etc. But I found it reasonably easy to just date "non-pro" vietnamese girls. I have been with about 15 girls and most are seemingly non-pro with regular day jobs.

So in short, Vietnam is cheaper, but Thailand is much easier where the difference in how much you will pay doesn't really matter. I like both but if I had a 1-2 week vacation and wanted to fuck as much as possible, I would go to Thailand. Hope this helps.

[QUOTE=OldJack;2917789]Just curious to know which is cheaper for mongering between Thailand and Vietnam. What I mean is where would a young girl who is an 8 in terms of beauty would be cheaper between Vietnam and Thailand?

Also it might come down to personal preference but who do you find prettier between a Thai and a Vietnamese.

And finally in general where between the two countries mongering is the easiest with very little hassle and overall between the two which countries' girls offer a better experience?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Global00;2917961]Vietnam is cheaper but there is a learning curve. Vietnam is much more scammy than Thailand as the reports show. I just spent a month in Thailand and easily slept with 60 plus girls without even going out that much. Averaged around like $35-40 us dollars.

In Vietnam, only been to Hanoi and the Nang so far, and prices are around $25-30 on average (Going to Go Chi Minh next). It can be more depending where you go or what method you use like Gaito, Gaigoi, Line people nearby function, Tinder, Bumble, etc. In Vietnam, there are many spas, massage parlors, bars, etc. But they will try to scam you by up charging, bait and switch, fake pictures, etc. But I found it reasonably easy to just date "non-pro" vietnamese girls. I have been with about 15 girls and most are seemingly non-pro with regular day jobs.

So in short, Vietnam is cheaper, but Thailand is much easier where the difference in how much you will pay doesn't really matter. I like both but if I had a 1-2 week vacation and wanted to fuck as much as possible, I would go to Thailand. Hope this helps.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the insight.

About the scam part, I did hear the bait and switch part happening a lot in Vietnam but again I also heard that fiwfans. Io also has all these Thai girls with their pics heavily photoshopped and much older than what they appear and claim on fiwfans. Is that true?

Also can most of the scam from massage parlour and everything be avoided if I solely rely on gaito in Vietnam?

I personally prefer more of a relaxed environment (incall or outcall) with multiple rounds and where the girl isn't rushing to finish. Is that possible in Thailand and what option would allow me to do just this in Thailand?

As scams like bait and switch or some other scams are still quite common when it comes to mongering in Vietnam.

How reliable is gaito? Can we solely rely on gaito to avoid scams?

FiwFans do edit their pictures. But so do girls on Gaito. Just ask them to video call for a short call. Some girls will refuse and for me they are not worth my time if they can let me see them for 20-30 seconds.

In the massage parlors, just be firm on what you want and have them write down prices. Use translator if you have to. If they try scam you just leave. In both countries, they are nice and kind even when they try to scam you so you won't have any problem leaving.

In Thailand, you can get a relaxed, multiple shots no rush. It just depends on the girl and if she likes you and feels comfortable with you and of course is not in a rush because she has a better offer on the table. I just told them my expectations and generally they fulfilled them and a lot of them exceeded them. I paid for a lot of one hour sessions they stayed way longer because they were relaxed and not in a rush and wanted to come back so it's very possible. Just be clear what you want and tell them upfront if they choose to leave before the agreed upon time, you will only pay a certain amount and not the full agreed upon amount.

[QUOTE=OldJack;2917997]Thank you for the insight.

About the scam part, I did hear the bait and switch part happening a lot in Vietnam but again I also heard that fiwfans. Io also has all these Thai girls with their pics heavily photoshopped and much older than what they appear and claim on fiwfans. Is that true?

Also can most of the scam from massage parlour and everything be avoided if I solely rely on gaito in Vietnam?

I personally prefer more of a relaxed environment (incall or outcall) with multiple rounds and where the girl isn't rushing to finish. Is that possible in Thailand and what option would allow me to do just this in Thailand?[/QUOTE]

Help me understand if this was just a massage or sex was involved as well There is a glimpse of the deed that is about to start around 10:55.

Captain solo your insight on this would be appreciated.

[URL]https://youtu.be/-Ti8Kh0qLbo?si=o-f1EcKZSbDE3yao[/URL]

I have delayed this post a bit due to laziness, but now finally get to posting:

First Gaito run. In HCMC District 1. Being easily suggestible, I chose a girl that had already had her URL listed here in the forum, looked good, and was close to my location:

[URL]https://www.gaito.org/gai-goi/chi-tiet/52038/kami-duyen-dang-xinh-sang-dep-sin-bao-ngon[/URL]

Question: in the Google translation of her refusal list on Gaito, it says "bird has balls. " Does someone have another translation available?

"Refuse: Drunk, stoned, sadistic, bird has balls".

The hotel she chose was directly across the street from the one I'm staying in. I went in, showed the front desk the text messages, they recognized her name and handed me a room key in exchange for a 200 k note.

It took her 30 minutes from acknowledging the room number until she arrived, with repeated messages that said "stuck in traffic. "

Despite members saying that Gaito had unedited pictures from punters taking real snapshots, she became upset when I took a picture of her partially undressed. She was quite insistent about me deleting it. She then kept pushing me about the phone, so I assumed she wanted me to empty the 'trash' folder also. I did so, in front of her.

Now both undressed, we proceeded to the BJ. Lots of fake moaning from her during the BJ. Although I appreciated that this was BBBJ and not CBJ, the technique was clearly just enough to get me fully erect, and not enough to provide any satisfaction whatsoever. It alternated between some sucking and that annoying tongue fluttering nonsense on the head. Once I was hard, a condom was put on and she was urging me to do her doggy style. I prefer to start with cowboy. During cowboy, she had more fake moaning for me and some and vigorous riding, and also she kept pushing for doggy.

I found out why she wanted doggy style when she used the position to respond to text messages on her phone while I fucked her from behind.

On the plus side, she had a lovely anus. Pinkish red and semi-gaping, winking at me regularly. No dark skin markings in the surrounding area, no hair at all, etc. Very well maintained. No detectable smell at the distance I was at. Nice pale skin, cleanly shaved pussy, a few tattoes, face ok not spectactular. I wasn't left with the impression that her tits were natural, but neither was I offended with their (suspected) artificiality.

Soon enough she started complaining that I was taking too long. It's at this point I'll note that her stats on Gaito list a 40 minute session, and this was no more than 5 minutes or so into the actual sex. We then progressed to missionary position with her legs in the air, and more texting on her part. In this position, her continued texting meant that the phone's camera was pointed in my direction. I don't think she snapped any photos, but neither do I like giving her an extended opportunity to do so.

She continued complaining that I should finish. So I did. As much as I like to get the most value for money, I was not enjoying myself with the complaining, fake moaning, and incessant texting. She showered first, and after I cleaned up, I found her fully dressed and waiting to be paid.

Total damage: 800 k for the girl as listed, 400 k foreigner surcharge, 200 k for the hotel - 1400 k all in.

Yes that's ridiculous for a foreigner surcharge to be so much.

Per instructions in this forum, I began this transaction by texting with her and saying "I'm a foreigner using google translate. " She immediately asked for 400 k foreigner surcharge. I agreed to this without negotiation as I'm leaving soon and I am too lazy to go to another area.

I had also just read a post from a member that said: he wanted to make sure he went all the way through the process and pop his Gaito cherry. I strongly agreed with this idea, as I had been postponing Gaito and wanted to make sure I went through with it all the way, today.

As I left the hotel, the front desk asked me to wait in the lobby while they checked the room, which took a few minutes.

Total time: about one hour from check in to checkout, including 30 minutes of waiting in the room for the girl to arrive.

As a final insult, I had intended on swiping the instant coffee and tea packets from the hotel room.

She swiped them first!

[QUOTE=OldJack;2918240]Help me understand if this was just a massage or sex was involved as well There is a glimpse of the deed that is about to start around 10:55.

Captain solo your insight on this would be appreciated.

[URL]https://youtu.be/-Ti8Kh0qLbo?si=o-f1EcKZSbDE3yao[/URL][/QUOTE]I've seen the specific video plus others. He said shower together, NURU and FS. I've seen other reviews on this place and they say the same thing. Of course the cost varies based on the services and room. 8:11 shows the base price and I believe it was 500 k, 1 m, 2 m for HJ, BJ, FS.

This is hilarious. You got ripped off big time. But you were on a tight schedule and got your Gaito cherry broken with a hard experience. If you have more time to select the right girls, you will do much better.

Women in Dis 1 are old, ugly, hardened sharks, since it's easy for them to rip off foreign tourists with little time in country. Last time in Dis 1 I only got 1 good and 1 average session out of 10, the rest was mehs or rip offs, so I avoid them unless I have no other options.

As you know 4 and 5-star hotels in Dis 1 cost $100-200, but similar fancy hotels in Dis 8 cost only $15-18 for the night. About 5,000 girls work in Dis 8, only 2 miles South of Dis 1. Prices for girls would also be much lower with better attitudes and services away from Dis 1.

If you have a day to spare, check in hotel Enjoy 7, Pharaon or Micasa and text the girls. Skip those difficult ones to teach them good lessons and engage only honest, reasonable girls. I bagged Diem Trang in Micasa for $20, pretty face, nice, clean beautiful all natural body with sweet, sexy attitude. She would do all night for 1. 2 Mil, about $50. I got similarly good deals with many hot girls like her.

Also you can tip hotel guys 50-100 K and ask them to refer or deliver girls, usually not the top beauties, but are more likely to behave.

The girls need your business badly, so be ready to tell them you will not deal with them and will spread bad reviews if they don't stick to their posted ads and provide good services.

BTW, I am guessing "Bird have balls" means guys with sex toys attached to their dicks to over-stimulate the girls.

[QUOTE=HornyOC;2918752]I've seen the specific video plus others. He said shower together, NURU and FS. I've seen other reviews on this place and they say the same thing. Of course the cost varies based on the services and room. 8:11 shows the base price and I believe it was 500 k, 1 m, 2 m for HJ, BJ, FS.[/QUOTE]Did he really say FS? I mean I don't think I ever noticed in the English subtitle any mention of FS?

[QUOTE=HornyOC;2918752]I've seen the specific video plus others. He said shower together, NURU and FS. I've seen other reviews on this place and they say the same thing. Of course the cost varies based on the services and room. 8:11 shows the base price and I believe it was 500 k, 1 m, 2 m for HJ, BJ, FS.[/QUOTE]This refers to men with artificial penile implants like beads or balls (supposedly to enhance sexual pleasure).

[QUOTE=OldJack;2919878]Did he really say FS? I mean I don't think I ever noticed in the English subtitle any mention of FS?[/QUOTE]No FS at this place. Only BJ.

I have a short two night stay in HCMC later in the year as a first timer there and from what I've researched so far, I'm definitely going to hit Linh Cherry just outside of Little Japan area in District 1 since I don't have time to figure out who offers FS and who doesn't at most bars (I'm also not much of a drinker either). So for my first night it's Linh Cherry for sure in order to get guaranteed FS.

After doing touristy stuff during the next day, I'm also open to returning back to Linh Cherry but wondering if there are other options that will still get me guaranteed FS rather than just a drinking companion or BJ / HJ. Again since it's my 1st trip there and a short one, I figure that it's best for me to just stay in District 1 and probably within close walking distance to Linh Cherry. Would this be correct? I wasn't sure if I should book accommodations near Linh Cherry that will be girl friendly only or not since Linh Cherry uses their own rooms but if I end up using another option for my second night that involves bringing a girl back to my room, I would think I'll need a girl friendly place -- what do you guys think?

If it's advised for me to book a place within District 1 and near Linh Cherry, which places have you guys used with success? And what other options were guaranteed for FS? I wasn't thinking of using any online platform since I would like to at least visually screen any girl I pay especially at District 1 rates.

Thanks in advance for any input to help me.

So from what I have understood people here mostly talk about mongering in district 8 and 10 and I know people usually recommend to avoid district 1 but there are so many other districts. Go Vap, Phu Nhuan, Tan Binh, district 9. And when checked on gaito although of course the photos are edited but the girls' reviews in these districts were okay and pics uploaded from other local mongerers also confirmed that these girls are pretty decent looking and easily within the range of 500 k to 900 k.

So I'm just curious apart from a few districts which have issues. Why do people here only talk about only district 8 and 10 and not other districts where we can find pretty girls with a decent price range?

My reports over the last week:

Spa Linh Cherry: Tried Linh Cherry twice. My experience from both times was average. The experience of choosing from 20-30 girls in a minute's time can be fairly overwhelming. All of them start looking same in that white dress of theirs. None of them looked like beauty queens that a lot of reviews speak of. Good looking but pretty average from HCMC standards. The first girl I chose was super petite 22 years old. She was ok. She would not let me kiss and was super worried about her makeup getting spoiled. Not a great experience. The second girl was too afraid of my big penis. Very average experience as the whole time she was trying to stop me from going harder. Given a choice, I would not repeat the experience again.

Vien Dong Spa: I booked the Super VIP here. Expensive but really luxurious room. Big room with a shower, Bathtub, Sauna all built inside. I saw a pretty girl while going to the room and asked the attendant to send her. The girl was really pretty. The experience pretty average. The place only offers BJ. The girls technique was very poor and most of the time she was trying to use her hands more then her lips. I was tempted to repeat Vien Dong again just because the girl was so beautiful. However, overall in absence of a full service experience, I chose to not repeat.

Massage Dubai: I read some review about this one on the forum and decided to try this. It was pretty smooth process. Instead of showing the girls directly, you need to choose on an Ipad. They take you to a room post that which is supposed to be a VIP room. The room is no where as cool as compared to Vien Dong. It did have a bed, A bath tub and large chair. Even a suana and a urinal in the room. But pretty average room overall. The girl came in after 10 minutes. She was pretty smashing and good looking. She probably gave me the best service overall. Gave me a very good bath. She did a good massage, some nuru and finally finished with a very good BJ. Good BJ technique and lovely girl. IF it was not for the lack of full service, I would have loved to repeat this place and even the girl.

Telegram Nearby Feature: This was a mistake. No one should try this. The girl was in and out of the room in 10 minutes. 1. 5 million. She looked 50% of the photos on Telegram. Will never ever try this again.

YN Spa: I read some review about this place for a Lingam massage. Went to their Spa instead of calling them to my hotel. Big mistake. When I reached there, they told me that the service needs to be booked in advance. Anyways, they said you are already here so we will arrange something. The lady they arranged was not a looker at all. She was mid 35 or may be even more. Decent experience but I want a good looking girl to be massaging me. At 1. 2 million, it was a waste.

[QUOTE=CoolDumble;2921500]My reports over the last week:

Spa Linh Cherry: Tried Linh Cherry twice. My experience from both times was average. The experience of choosing from 20-30 girls in a minute's time can be fairly overwhelming. All of them start looking same in that white dress of theirs. None of them looked like beauty queens that a lot of reviews speak of. [/QUOTE]It's great that you explored although it seems that you were hoping for FS. If that's the case, why didn't you try gaito? Agreed that the photo will be edited but if you're willing to spend close to a million you could find quite a lot of stunners on gaito and you can see the reviews and customer added pics as well.

[QUOTE=CoolDumble;2921500]My reports over the last week:

Spa Linh Cherry: Tried Linh Cherry twice. My experience from both times was average. The experience of choosing from 20-30 girls in a minute's time can be fairly overwhelming. All of them start looking same in that white dress of theirs. None of them looked like beauty queens that a lot of reviews speak of. Good looking but pretty average from HCMC standards. The first girl I chose was super petite 22 years old. She was ok. She would not let me kiss and was super worried about her makeup getting spoiled. Not a great experience. The second girl was too afraid of my big penis. Very average experience as the whole time she was trying to stop me from going harder. Given a choice, I would not repeat the experience again.
[/QUOTE]Wow I'm feeling for you man but many thanks for posting your reports on all those places you visited. My initial reaction just based on your visits is to red flag all of those places completely before I even get there for my first trip especially when I'm a FS and not really a BJ guy. I'm glad you wrote about Linh Cherry as that is my main target for my trip as it seems even with mediocre sessions, at least FS is guaranteed. What I learn from reading any reports from such places is maybe we need to somehow ask the mamsan and / or prospective girls we pull more specific questions on whether they would accommodate our own specific needs. But thanks again and hope your future sessions get better.

[QUOTE=OldJack;2921502]It's great that you explored although it seems that you were hoping for FS. If that's the case, why didn't you try gaito? Agreed that the photo will be edited but if you're willing to spend close to a million you could find quite a lot of stunners on gaito and you can see the reviews and customer added pics as well.[/QUOTE]I think the big negative of Gaito at least for me is the lack of being able to prescreen the girls before committing. Ordering online would be basically a cheaper version of how mongering works in my home scene in Toronto where we have to book both incall and outcall sessions based on agency or independent websites where as you already mentioned, photos can be photoshopped like crazy and also profile stats might be inaccurate in terms of their physical dimensions as well as what specific services they are willing to do. A big part of coming to foreign places like southeast Asia or Latin America is to be able to see the girls in person and if possible, converse with them to see if we would gel, ie. , like a semi-job interview. If they fail in either the physical or personality prescreens, I would not commit to a session with them. If Gaito doesn't allow me to prescreen like that, it's no better than Toronto or Montreal even though rates are much cheaper but I have to factor in my travel costs.

The 8 and 10 each has 5,000 girls listed in mongers' sites, a lot more than other districts. It's easier to find the girls you like working at any time and more competition between girls.

Districts 8 and 10 also have more sex hotels, restaurants and street food clusters, nearer to tourist areas in district 1, easier to navigate with better transportation.

Better selections of girls and food in large clusters, easier navigation and transportation, make life easier and more fun.

I also went to other districts, took long time in congested traffic, found a few hot girls, but did not feel it was worth the time and effort.

I had a couple baits and switches in Hanoi, HCMC Dis 1 and 10, but most pics are accurate and recent. Dis 8 is especially better.

I would make dates with girls to the hotels. Show the pics to the hotel reception if the girls are no problem. If they show up vastly different to pics or try to change their deals, I would reject them and go down to reception, complain, get credit for the room, and text other girls. Hotel people know problem girls and penalize them.

Local guys leave comments in the site and would report on fake or bad performers. Narrow down to a list of best prospects. Try to read the translated comments. Make dates with them and be firm with your expectations.

These are a few hot girls I bagged in HCMC Dis 8 and 10.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2921659]I had a couple baits and switches in Hanoi, HCMC Dis 1 and 10, but most pics are accurate and recent. Dis 8 is especially better.

I would make dates with girls to the hotels. Show the pics to the hotel reception if the girls are no problem. If they show up vastly different to pics or try to change their deals, I would reject them and go down to reception, complain, get credit for the room, and text other girls. Hotel people know problem girls and penalize them.

Local guys leave comments in the site and would report on fake or bad performers. Narrow down to a list of best prospects. Try to read the translated comments. Make dates with them and be firm with your expectations.

These are a few hot girls I bagged in HCMC Dis 8 and 10.[/QUOTE]Do hotel people really involve themselves in problems between girls and clients? Like why would they care if the girl refuses to provide a particular service that she claimed on the website or stuff like that?

About the local guys comments although what you say makes sense but I have never seen any bad reviews at all which I find strange.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;2921559]Wow I'm feeling for you man but many thanks for posting your reports on all those places you visited. My initial reaction just based on your visits is to red flag all of those places completely before I even get there for my first trip especially when I'm a FS and not really a BJ guy. I'm glad you wrote about Linh Cherry as that is my main target for my trip as it seems even with mediocre sessions, at least FS is guaranteed. What I learn from reading any reports from such places is maybe we need to somehow ask the mamsan and / or prospective girls we pull more specific questions on whether they would accommodate our own specific needs. But thanks again and hope your future sessions get better.[/QUOTE]Ha ha. I am making it look bad but frankly speaking it was not that bad. I loved my visit to HCMC. The girls on the street were amazing. An SA girl came and stayed with me for 2-3 nights, took me around and all. I was frankly speaking dying with all the sex that I was getting. It was just that I had probably higher expectations from some of the places. Girls at some of the places were outstanding eg. Dubai massage and Vien Dong were definitely 9's or even 10's. In any other setup, I would love to take them out for drinks. Linh Cherry was a bit disappointing because of the service.

[QUOTE=OldJack;2921502]It's great that you explored although it seems that you were hoping for FS. If that's the case, why didn't you try gaito? Agreed that the photo will be edited but if you're willing to spend close to a million you could find quite a lot of stunners on gaito and you can see the reviews and customer added pics as well.[/QUOTE]I was not really sure of Gaito. Could not understand the system really. Do they come to my hotel? Do I go to a hotel they ask me to come to? Etc. Also, I was staying in a 5* and was a bit wary of getting girls to the room.

[QUOTE=CoolDumble;2921768]Ha ha. I am making it look bad but frankly speaking it was not that bad. I loved my visit to HCMC. The girls on the street were amazing. An SA girl came and stayed with me for 2-3 nights, took me around and all. I was frankly speaking dying with all the sex that I was getting. It was just that I had probably higher expectations from some of the places. Girls at some of the places were outstanding eg. Dubai massage and Vien Dong were definitely 9's or even 10's. In any other setup, I would love to take them out for drinks. Linh Cherry was a bit disappointing because of the service.[/QUOTE]How did you book the SA girl and what are the rates? Thank for your reviews brother. What would you recommend for FS?

[QUOTE=CoolDumble;2921768]Ha ha. I am making it look bad but frankly speaking it was not that bad. I loved my visit to HCMC. The girls on the street were amazing. An SA girl came and stayed with me for 2-3 nights, took me around and all. I was frankly speaking dying with all the sex that I was getting. It was just that I had probably higher expectations from some of the places. Girls at some of the places were outstanding eg. Dubai massage and Vien Dong were definitely 9's or even 10's. In any other setup, I would love to take them out for drinks. Linh Cherry was a bit disappointing because of the service.[/QUOTE]Where / how did you book the SA girl and what were the rates? Thank for your reviews brother, sounds like a trip with some great experience. For the bros that want FS what would you recommend?

[QUOTE=CoolDumble;2921768]Ha ha. I am making it look bad but frankly speaking it was not that bad. I loved my visit to HCMC. The girls on the street were amazing. An SA girl came and stayed with me for 2-3 nights, took me around and all. I was frankly speaking dying with all the sex that I was getting. It was just that I had probably higher expectations from some of the places. Girls at some of the places were outstanding eg. Dubai massage and Vien Dong were definitely 9's or even 10's. In any other setup, I would love to take them out for drinks. Linh Cherry was a bit disappointing because of the service.[/QUOTE]Do you have link for the girl?

Will be in HCMC soon.

[QUOTE=PoopyGuy125;2921832]How did you book the SA girl and what are the rates? Thank for your reviews brother. What would you recommend for FS?[/QUOTE]Are you a SA user? If yes, you need to start texting girls there.

[QUOTE=PoopyGuy125;2921835]Where / how did you book the SA girl and what were the rates? Thank for your reviews brother, sounds like a trip with some great experience. For the bros that want FS what would you recommend?[/QUOTE]The easiest place to find FS is Linh Cherry and the other Cherry spa. If you can figure out Gaito, it opens a whole world of escorts.

Hundreds of fuck hotels compete for business. So the do care if girls keep causing problems with clients.

I have seen a few negative comments on some girls. Those with lots of complaints are booted off the sites.

Sorry guys. SA is not for sharing. The girl asked me not to share. You will need to find your own girl on SA. .

[QUOTE=CoolDumble;2921897]Sorry guys. SA is not for sharing. The girl asked me not to share. You will need to find your own girl on SA. .[/QUOTE]My bad. What is SA?

[QUOTE=PoopyGuy125;2922001]My bad. What is SA?[/QUOTE]SA - Seeking Arrangements, I think it's just called seeking dot com now.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2921659]I had a couple baits and switches in Hanoi, HCMC Dis 1 and 10, but most pics are accurate and recent. Dis 8 is especially better.

I would make dates with girls to the hotels. Show the pics to the hotel reception if the girls are no problem. If they show up vastly different to pics or try to change their deals, I would reject them and go down to reception, complain, get credit for the room, and text other girls. Hotel people know problem girls and penalize them.

Local guys leave comments in the site and would report on fake or bad performers. Narrow down to a list of best prospects. Try to read the translated comments. Make dates with them and be firm with your expectations.

These are a few hot girls I bagged in HCMC Dis 8 and 10.[/QUOTE]Good job, Solo. There are definitely some stunners in Ho Chi Minh. I was supposed to go back there (from PI where I live) but the idiots that processed my visa mistakenly listed my last name twice on the visa so fucking Philippine Airlines wouldn't even let me on the flight. I am still fighting them to get my money back. I'll try again next year. Meanwhile, there's always Indonesia and Thailand. Cheers.

Lots of nice, hot girls are listed in GAITO. Imagine 5,000 girls within half a mile block hehe. Outside of Dis 1, a lot, if not most, are semi-pros, not hardened career hoes, really nice and sweet young girls. They try the trade for a few months when they need money, then they just quit and go home.

New young girls are from the provinces, new to the cities and would love to hang out with foreigners to explore the city life.

Of course they have to eat and help their moms and pops, so give them some money for spending time with you.

If you want to spend money, Boss Karaoke at Dis 8's main rotary has dozens beautiful, classy young girls every night. It's within walking distance of the hotels. This place is where the upper crust goes to be entertained.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2922630]Lots of nice, hot girls are listed in GAITO. Imagine 5,000 girls within half a mile block hehe. Outside of Dis 1, a lot, if not most, are semi-pros, not hardened career hoes, really nice and sweet young girls. They try the trade for a few months when they need money, then they just quit and go home.

New young girls are from the provinces, new to the cities and would love to hang out with foreigners to explore the city life.

Of course they have to eat and help their moms and pops, so give them some money for spending time with you.

If you want to spend money, Boss Karaoke at Dis 8's main rotary has dozens beautiful, classy young girls every night. It's within walking distance of the hotels. This place is where the upper crust goes to be entertained.[/QUOTE]Solo you are a legend for HCMC mongering. Actually tried 4 Gaito / gaigu girls from 300 k-700 k. Actually found my fave girl so far in Tan Binh. She has a tiny bitty waste that my hands can almost wrapped around and a nice round Latina ass that almost me passed out from reverse doggy for only 500 k.

By the way, how do you get them to go to your hotel rooms? I have always taken a grab to a hotel that the girl give after texting them and pay that hotel for 100 k /1 HR.

[QUOTE=PoopyGuy125;2922725]Solo you are a legend for HCMC mongering. Actually tried 4 Gaito / gaigu girls from 300 k-700 k. Actually found my fave girl so far in Tan Binh. She has a tiny bitty waste that my hands can almost wrapped around and a nice round Latina ass that almost me passed out from reverse doggy for only 500 k.

By the way, how do you get them to go to your hotel rooms? I have always taken a grab to a hotel that the girl give after texting them and pay that hotel for 100 k /1 HR.[/QUOTE]This would be nice especially if we already have a guest friendly hotel room. Saves some logistical steps.

Jessica has landed back in Saigon, sadly for me as I'm in Dubai.

Here's a report from a fellow punter:

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2394-Dubai-Reports&p=2915112[/URL]#post2915112.

Message me and I'll share her contact details to anyone that contributes and shares.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2922630]Lots of nice, hot girls are listed in GAITO. Imagine 5,000 girls within half a mile block hehe. Outside of Dis 1, a lot, if not most, are semi-pros, not hardened career hoes, really nice and sweet young girls. They try the trade for a few months when they need money, then they just quit and go home..[/QUOTE]Been seeing a lot of "GAITO" in the HCMC forum but not sure what it means? Is it an app or location? Thanks Guys.

Poopy.

A lot of girls would go to hotels. Negotiate a deal with them. I was staying at hotel A25 on 167 Pham Ngu Lao in HCMC, had many girls over. An old Euro guy took 2 hot women in for a 3 some. Reception did not even look up.

Just smile a lot. Don't be afraid to express your feelings. Give them extra cash. Offer to take them to nice spots like parks, cafes, bars, restaurants ect where young people hang out. They would love to go.

I had a beautiful civie date from a top family in Hanoi, who did not know how to dress like high-class girls; her clothes were all mixes of clashing colors. I took her to nice stores and suggested how some subtle clothes would greatly enhance her natural beauty, and bought her some latest fashion. Also had a date who took me to jewelry stores, drooled at the expensive jewelries. I told her I did not bring money and promised the next meet. Clothes are fairly cheap but jewelries are not cool for dates.

Surprisingly even GAITO girls are good companies in fancy places. They are grateful for a chance to explore big cities unfamiliar to them.

[QUOTE=PoopyGuy125;2922725]Solo you are a legend for HCMC mongering. Actually tried 4 Gaito / gaigu girls from 300 k-700 k. Actually found my fave girl so far in Tan Binh. She has a tiny bitty waste that my hands can almost wrapped around and a nice round Latina ass that almost me passed out from reverse doggy for only 500 k.

By the way, how do you get them to go to your hotel rooms? I have always taken a grab to a hotel that the girl give after texting them and pay that hotel for 100 k /1 HR.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Andres901;2923044]Been seeing a lot of "GAITO" in the HCMC forum but not sure what it means? Is it an app or location? Thanks Guys.[/QUOTE]It's an escort website.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2923177]Poopy.

A lot of girls would go to hotels. Negotiate a deal with them. I was staying at hotel A25 on 167 Pham Ngu Lao in HCMC, had many girls over. An old Euro guy took 2 hot women in for a 3 some. Reception did not even look up.

Just smile a lot. Don't be afraid to express your feelings. Give them extra cash. Offer to take them to nice spots like parks, cafes, bars, restaurants ect where young people hang out. They would love to go.

I had a beautiful civie date from a top family in Hanoi, who did not know how to dress like high-class girls; her clothes were all mixes of clashing colors. I took her to nice stores and suggested how some subtle clothes would greatly enhance her natural beauty, and bought her some latest fashion. Also had a date who took me to jewelry stores, drooled at the expensive jewelries. I told her I did not bring money and promised the next meet. Clothes are fairly cheap but jewelries are not cool for dates.

Surprisingly even GAITO girls are good companies in fancy places. They are grateful for a chance to explore big cities unfamiliar to them.[/QUOTE]How do you even meet Non Gaito girls? Tinder?

There's an airport express bus that goes to the Ben Tranh market area. Wondering if it's doable to use this cheap bus and then get a Grab for Ben Tranh to my hotel near Bui Vien if I have a large backpack and a carry on for luggage. If not, I'll just have to use a Grab from the airport all the way to my hotel.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;2924203]Airport Express Bus Doable With Luggage?[/QUOTE]Grab and taxis are super cheap in HCM. $6-8 US from airport to D1. If you want to save a couple of dollars you can take a bus I guess but is that where you want to fight your battles to save a buck or two? It's hot in HCM. When I landed last month it was real feel 53 Celsius. Forecast was 60 Celsius so I got lucky.
HCM airport imo is about as chaotic as they come as well. You want to be out of there ASAP.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2924279]Grab and taxis are super cheap in HCM. $6-8 US from airport to D1. If you want to save a couple of dollars you can take a bus I guess but is that where you want to fight your battles to save a buck or two? It's hot in HCM. When I landed last month it was real feel 53 Celsius. Forecast was 60 Celsius so I got lucky.
HCM airport imo is about as chaotic as they come as well. You want to be out of there ASAP.[/QUOTE]Thanks as this is good to know. I don't do that well in heat -- I snow ski in -20 see many winter days where I live and scuba dive in 7 see water here. So in the temps you are talking about, yes, I won't want to be out there being too physical for too long.

AC City bus right outside arrival goes to the main bus depot on Pham Ngu Lao. Walk 1 short block to Bui Vien. Have 12 K the for the conductor.

It goes as fast as any car or bike in that heavy traffic. I take that bus back and forth to airport with luggage, no difficulties.

Tinder and Wechat are mostly old, ugly, hardened hookers of the worst kinds.

Girls and professional women hang out in upscale clubs and bars, try to snag BFs. Could get expensive, like $400-1600 a Cognac bottle. I have contacts with club owners so I can partake cheaper and easier.

A few cafes in HCMC (on CMT8) have mid 30's or so women hang out with friends, eying crowd, not drinking or buying. They are usually not the youngest and prettiest, desperate for BFs, relationships or casual sex. Just talk to them like friends. If they smile and act friendly, offer to buy them coffees or smoothies, cheap like $1 to 3. They would be appreciative and open for hook ups or relationships. The cafes are quiet, relaxed places, easier for conversations.

[QUOTE=CoolDumble;2923732]How do you even meet Non Gaito girls? Tinder?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2924437]Tinder and Wechat are mostly old, ugly, hardened hookers of the worst kinds.

Girls and professional women hang out in upscale clubs and bars, try to snag BFs. Could get expensive, like $400-1600 a Cognac bottle. I have contacts with club owners so I can partake cheaper and easier.

A few cafes in HCMC (on CMT8) have mid 30's or so women hang out with friends, eying crowd, not drinking or buying. They are usually not the youngest and prettiest, desperate for BFs, relationships or casual sex. Just talk to them like friends. If they smile and act friendly, offer to buy them coffees or smoothies, cheap like $1 to 3. They would be appreciative and open for hook ups or relationships. The cafes are quiet, relaxed places, easier for conversations.[/QUOTE]What the website for gaito? I've looked here and Googled. Can't find it.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2924414]AC City bus right outside arrival goes to the main bus depot on Pham Ngu Lao. Walk 1 short block to Bui Vien. Have 12 K the for the conductor.

It goes as fast as any car or bike in that heavy traffic. I take that bus back and forth to airport with luggage, no difficulties.[/QUOTE]Thanks for this tip!

I see that motobikes are cheap and can get around quickly unlike cars there. My question is how to not fall off one? I'm worried that I'll slide off the back of a seat if the driver accelerates and then traffic hits me from behind. Any insights from you guys who are experienced riding motobikes as a passenger?

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;2924928]I see that motobikes are cheap and can get around quickly unlike cars there. My question is how to not fall off one? I'm worried that I'll slide off the back of a seat if the driver accelerates and then traffic hits me from behind. Any insights from you guys who are experienced riding motobikes as a passenger?[/QUOTE]For the last 22 years I have pretty much visited Vietnam every year, riding behind friends, my wife, and Grab drivers. I have never seen that happen and would be shocked to say the least if it did. You are worrying over something that has a million to one chance of happening.

Hello folks,

Planning to come to HCMC for mongering for 2-3 days. How can I best use my time?

I have RTTF'ed, and see the LC and NPK recommendations.

But I usually prefer the more private style of getting a take out to my hotel room.

Any recommendations for getting beauties coming to my room, kinda like smooci but a much bigger choice?

Also, I am looking for BBBJ, CIM, swallow. Is HCMC better for it or go to Manila?

Thanks a lot!

Anyone rented a monitor in Ho Chi Minh City for a week? I'm traveling next week and need help with some contacts.

Tried to look up options on google, but no luck so far.

[QUOTE=NRandom940;2924454]What the website for gaito? I've looked here and Googled. Can't find it.[/QUOTE]Think it is or was gailangchoi. Me.

Can't get images to load.

Many sites list girls by cities.

I never had problem for full access with Gaito. Org in Vietnam or in US.

Gentlemen, does anyone know a good bar with multiple TVs that shows all the American NFL football games? Its an unusual time for games, I believe NFL games on Sundays in America will kick off in HCMC at midnight on a Monday so the bar would have to be open all night past midnight until 10 am.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;2924928]I see that motobikes are cheap and can get around quickly unlike cars there. My question is how to not fall off one? I'm worried that I'll slide off the back of a seat if the driver accelerates and then traffic hits me from behind. Any insights from you guys who are experienced riding motobikes as a passenger?[/QUOTE]Hold on the handle tightly and wear a helmet. Don't worry, it's safe enough.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2921659]I had a couple baits and switches in Hanoi, HCMC Dis 1 and 10, but most pics are accurate and recent. Dis 8 is especially better.
.....
These are a few hot girls I bagged in HCMC Dis 8 and 10.[/QUOTE]Hi!

Tomorrow I am going to Ho Chi Minh and in the next days, if price of massage are crazy, I would try Gaito too.

Gaito page is this:

[URL]https://www.gaito.shop[/URL]

Thanks in advance.

Hello. I will arrive to Ho Chin Minh tomorrow. I saw your report and I would have a question, if you could reply.

In District 8 and 10 there are also some place where you can see the girls form live? (no just contact by internet?

In case, can you suggest some places?

Thank you.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2921589]The 8 and 10 each has 5,000 girls listed in mongers' sites, a lot more than other districts. It's easier to find the girls you like working at any time and more competition between girls.

Districts 8 and 10 also have more sex hotels, restaurants and street food clusters, nearer to tourist areas in district 1, easier to navigate with better transportation.

Better selections of girls and food in large clusters, easier navigation and transportation, make life easier and more fun.

I also went to other districts, took long time in congested traffic, found a few hot girls, but did not feel it was worth the time and effort.[/QUOTE]

The only place in Dis 8 with a line up is the Boss Karaoke right at the Trung Son rotary, couple hundred feet from the love hotels. Dozens girls come in at about 6. Could be expensive. Make sure you know prices of everything before you buy. Pay bar fines and take girls to the hotel or wait for her after her shift.

Bars in Little Tokyo, off LE Thanh Ton in Dis 1, have girls you can pick and choose. Buy her drinks and work out deals. She would probably have to go only after her shift or the next day.

Diamond Massage on Cao Ba Nha near Bui Vien back packers in District 1 has half dozen girls day and night for services on premises.

[QUOTE=GiovanniVolo;2931578]Hello. I will arrive to Ho Chin Minh tomorrow. I saw your report and I would have a question, if you could reply.

In District 8 and 10 there are also some place where you can see the girls form live? (no just contact by internet?

In case, can you suggest some places?

Thank you.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2931751]
The only place in Dis 8 with a line up is the Boss Karaoke right at the Trung Son rotary, couple hundred feet from the love hotels. Dozens girls come in at about 6. Could be expensive. Make sure you know prices of everything before you buy. Pay bar fines and take girls to the hotel or wait for her after her shift.

Bars in Little Tokyo, off LE Thanh Ton in Dis 1, have girls you can pick and choose. Buy her drinks and work out deals. She would probably have to go only after her shift or the next day.

Diamond Massage on Cao Ba Nha near Bui Vien back packers in District 1 has half dozen girls day and night for services on premises.[/QUOTE]Thanks.

So Dis 8, aside this karaoke, just Gaito?

I never found in Google a Diamond massage on Cao Ba Nha.

I dound this Diamond Massage:

[URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/rDJvEZgkUgrFqHbn6[/URL]

If is not, tomorrow I will go to Cao Ba Nha to look for it.

Today I asked about full services to two nice girls. One told 2 m, another one, in another massage, go away.

Today I was tired. Tomorrow I tre something. Just I would avoid scam.

Bar where yiu have to pay a lot of drink and take to your hotel the girl when I will be tired, is not my goal.

Thanks for informations.

[QUOTE=Trace79;2893550]I primarily live in HCMC for the past 18 months with almost all my visa runs to Bangkok and also a 3-month stay in Sukhumvit area.

- pussy is by far the cheapest in Vietnam compared to practically anywhere in Asia. It's not really in your face (except Little Tokyo or Pasteur Street bars), but there's so much pussy for sale here it's insane. Vietnam has the most free market 'local' economy out of anywhere I've been in the world and there is fierce competition between the girls. There's streets where girls just ride up and down on their motorbikes slinging puss (about 500 k-800 k for these types). I have a couple good looking girls I've found that I keep in my rotation that give me full service (BBBJ too) for 1 M vnd. About 1/3 of Tinder are hookers. These girls usually ask for 1. 5-2 M vnd but I've never sampled one off a dating site out of fear they'll just take the money and run (these girls want money upfront, which is why I don't use them. I always pay after. Even in Thailand.).

With that
y.[/QUOTE]


I am in Ho Ching Minh now.

Do you have some suggestion? I am near little Tokyo, noce area but look full of scam.

Do you know if there are other place where I can find young girls with better price and no scam? I am not interessino about BJ. Full sex is right.

I can move by taxy every day, or also change hotel from Friday.

Banana Boi. Captain Solo. Since you two post the most here. What is the most important bus route to know and why?

Banana Boi. Captain Solo. Since you two post the most here. Curious roughly how many girls total you have taken from the Gaito site in HCMC? Now roughly how many girls are available in District 8?

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;2924928]I see that motobikes are cheap and can get around quickly unlike cars there. My question is how to not fall off one? I'm worried that I'll slide off the back of a seat if the driver accelerates and then traffic hits me from behind. Any insights from you guys who are experienced riding motobikes as a passenger?[/QUOTE]My girl drove me around on two days. I was never in danger of falling: the One day we risked it even without a helmet for me.

Because of the national mourning of the late party chief, there is a lot of dampened activity in HCMC. All the large KTVs were closed. Though I did manage to find a small one that was secretly open. And the massage parlors were still very steady business. Hopefully more open businesses starting Saturday!

LoveItHere,

Too many to remember exact number.

In the last 3 visits, I took about 50-60 GAITO girls.

Before that, [URL]KYNU.NET[/URL] was the first site to list girls. I took may be 40 from KYNU. I gave a list of 20 favorite KYNU girls with tels to expats. They were able to navigate the on line supply which cater only to locals then.

GAITO lists about 5,000 girls in Dis 8, not all are available all the time. Other sites may be additionally listing different sets of girls. The red light zone in Dis 8 is very nice, clean, green and compact, only a little over 1 mile from Central Market. You can pick up a bus from the backpacker district and ride over in about 15 minutes.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2932073]Banana Boi. Captain Solo. Since you two post the most here. Curious roughly how many girls total you have taken from the Gaito site in HCMC? Now roughly how many girls are available in District 8?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2933093]LoveItHere,

Too many to remember exact number.

In the last 3 visits, I took about 50-60 GAITO girls.

Before that, [URL]KYNU.NET[/URL] was the first site to list girls. I took may be 40 from KYNU. I gave a list of 20 favorite KYNU girls with tels to expats. They were able to navigate the on line supply which cater only to locals then.

GAITO lists about 5,000 girls in Dis 8, not all are available all the time. Other sites may be additionally listing different sets of girls. The red light zone in Dis 8 is very nice, clean, green and compact, only a little over 1 mile from Central Market. You can pick up a bus from the backpacker district and ride over in about 15 minutes.[/QUOTE]I've mongered in Asia but not VN. I noticed many girls on Gaito are not shaved.

Of the 50-60 you have sessioned with, what percentage were shaved? And is shaved your preference?

Hi seniors,

Will be traveling to Vietnam. Can you please suggest friendly hotels in Saigon and action packed scene nearby to get a girl or near to nightlife.

Vendelo,

Vietnamese and Chinese believe women with bald pussies bring bad luck. They are called "White Tiger" and are avoided.

Out of the 100 girls I bagged in Vietnam I think I got only 1 bald pussy. The rest are hairy, some thin like new rice patches, some thick and tall like the deep green Amazon jungle.

I prefer them with thin hairs, look feminine and sexy, like fine dining, compared to thick bushes, like big buffets.

I tried Gaito.

It work easly.

After found and write to girls, I arrived to an hotel. I wrote her room number an she arrived after 20 minutes.

I was two times. Both the girls were nice and respectful.

They was 200 k tourist surcharge. I paid it with no problem, but I never live tips.

Totale price 500 k girl, 200 k tourist surcharge, 160 k hotel.

960 k. Very good price.

Girl declaere to be 19 year old. Noce body, also if was not two models. But they were kind.

Hotel was clean.

I was in Lin Cherry Massage three times.

Price 600 k for 90 ,minutes (or 500 k for 60 minutes).

THEN you can chose the girl.

In the room you pay her for sex, 2 m.

Massage was just OK. Sex was just Ok, no more. Then she want to leave, but I asked at least for other Massage.

First girl was very beautiful but never nice at all. Second look crazy. Third was not so beautiful.

All arel dress up white. After sex spend a lot of time to fix make up, in paid times.

I think these girls with so much millions pretend too much. Do quite nothing.

Thing theat here the average salary is 400 euro a month, for 12 hours of work a day, for 28 days every month.

Everywhere prostitute gain more, it's ok. But I think it became to high price for here.

Room are wonderful, but I never go for the room.

Much appreciation for all the useful information here. Leaning towards gaito girls. Non-scientific survey: anything to older providers offering generally better experiences? Sure, young ladies are hot. But I'm attracted to mature women, too. My last encounter was with a Thai working girl. She was older than advertised (in her 40's) but was fun and enthusiastic. Went overtime without charging more. We talked after the act, too, and she shared pics with me of her family, including her father, who was seriously ill. I like that connection; it can be more than simply a transaction.

Thanks in advance for any insights!

14 day trip.

In my hotel 15 minutes and kick the corner of the bed. The tip of my second smallest toe turned a pretty purple a few hours later. Hobbled around Walking Street for a few days. I hate all the motorcycles that still go up and down so called "Walking Street" every 3-5 minutes. Food is great even at the convenience stores. Family store had a good chicken curry for $1. 40 (35,000 Dong) and a Mulberry pasta at GS25 for same price.

District 10.

I stayed at a crappy ST hotel for 2 days. Never saw any ST girls staying there. But rooms were being used for ST.

I contact a Gaito girl. I try to pay the hotel and he says after. Text the girl. Two girls come down the stairs. The first one is chubby and did not see the one behind her as they walk past and outside as I am trying to deal with the hotel cashier. I go up and take a shower. Wait a few minutes and a girl appears. Not the one pictured on the Gaito site. She is chubby. Pretty sure the one I saw walk down the stairs. Basically, she and her friend went down to check me out to see if they would accept or not, ask the hotel guy if I was a newbie or not, and discuss what game to play. So I pay and we get to business. Salty boobs. She did not even take a shower in her room. 25 minutes later she says she has to go but she has a pretty friend I can finish with. Most likely the girl I was supposed to meet originally. This game they get double commission and try to get double hotel payment. I learned what I needed and left unhappy.

Contacted a super hot Telegraph girl. I told her to send me a picture with her hand in a fist with her little finger pointing up like the picture I sent her to verify a real current picture. Guess what never came? She sent me two 5 second videos of her face. Cute face but no idea how old the video was or if it was really her. Did not show her boobs or body in the videos of course. I told her I would be angry sitting around waiting for a girl that is late and does not match the Telegraph pictures and it would end up with me yelling and cussing. She tells me she will come and I can decide when she gets there. She is thinking I am so horny I will screw anything that comes or I will feel bad and do a mercy screw. So I tell her she can send me 2 videos but not a simple picture like I sent her that took me less than a minute to make and send. No thanks. Bye.

The Van Hanh Mall is nice. The basement grocery store is better than the Big see Store 1 kilometer north. On the 4th or so floor is a bowling alley. I bowled 3 games one day and 3 games a few days later. They have a worker there watching everyone bowl. I believe because there is an escalator nearby inside the gaming area someone could not pay and disappear down the escalator. My second time there I am playing at 10:30 am with nobody near me. I throw the ball and turn around and there is a 25 year old guy standing in my area watching me. My area is the bench seating in my lane. That is far from normally no reason to be that close. I throw another ball and he is still there. I walk over and pick up my phone sitting on the floor equal distance between us and put it in my pocket. Throw another ball and when I turn around he is gone. I think the guy working there told one of his buddies I was an easy person to steal from. The guy I believe to be a thief was not there to watch my wonderful bowling skills because I suck. I enjoy it but suck at it.

District 8.

Reserve 1 night on Agoda at Hotel Tam My (Tammy) rated 9. 3. Try checking in at 1:30 pm when check in is at 2:00 pm. They say they are full. WTF! No rooms 30 minutes before check in with a reservation. Tell me try their sister hotel across the street on the corner. Place is a complete dump. Go back to Tammy Hotel to use wifi and find another hotel. 10 minutes later they have a room. More of a 7. 0 rating. Far from a 9. 3 that they had friends or they themselves rated. The 25 year old girl has a bitchy attitude. I had a bad feeling.

Walked around. The area had a residential feel. No malls or big grocery stores in the area. Not nearly as many restaurants or convenience stores as District 10. Texted a Gaito girl and she texted she was at "Love Hotel" and the street. The only "Love Hotel" I saw on Google maps was a little off the street she texted. Got there and waited for 10 minutes before the guy their told me I was at the wrong hotel. Texted her back and canceled. It felt like an Easter egg hunt. Next day returned to District 1 trying to figure out how much time I really wanted to be in HCMC. I paid cash for the hotel I had a bad feeling about and checked my credit card to see if Agoda paid them too. No double payment. But there was a $30 purchase for something, $160 pizza order, and another $160 pizza order that day in the USA. Cancelled my credit card. No more guessing needed. Bought a plane ticket leaving 3 days later. Total time 14 days and only 1 girl and did not finish.

City was really nice but felt like way too many scams.

XXXXX.

Gaito changes web address. Currently, it is [URL]www.gaito.shop[/URL].

District 8 lists 3776. I did some 1st grade math which others are unable to accomplish. Follow along. Per page there are 4 girls across X 5 girls down X 11 pages = 220. After page 11 the girls are "busy" or "pending". You ever see those signs in the mall on the wall saying "Something is coming soon!" but it never happens most the time. We have 220 not 3776 girls. But 30% of the girls never answer your texts. 220 - 30% = 154. Now you need to delete 30% of those girls because they are not what you really want because of Photoshopped pictures in which the girl is 15% older, fatter, uglier and then the outright fake pictures of another girl that was used. So 154 - 30% is 108. Now take 108 and delete 3% who go with only Asians. Reality is 105 girls is the true number of girls available to you and that is being so very very generous.

District 10 lists 3486 girls but only really has 10 pages so 4 X 5 X 20 = 200 girls.

Some of you are lazy so I will make it even easier for you by looking at 3 districts with the least amount of girls.

District 3 lists 51 girls. Click the link and you count only 1 girl available.

District 5 lists 16 girls. Click the link and you count only 2 girl available.

District Nha Be lists 16 girls. Click the link and you count only zero girls available.

I love all you fools that say thousands available in Districts 8 and 10. So clueless. The entire Gaito HCMC (Saigon) website has less than 850 girls available. All districts combined is less than 850 girls. Learn to count.

XXXXX.

Bus 152.

I love all the guys that say grab the 152 bus at the airport but fail to tell someone where to find it as if they really have never been on it. At the airport get your luggage and walk outside. Look to your right. Look for the Burger King and go to it. In front is the 152 15 passenger bus. The first driveway is for pickups so step off the curb and walk across and wait there. About every 15 minutes. June 12 it was 5000 Dong but I think it is 6000 now. 6000 Dong (. 23 USD = 23 cents) for you and 6000 Dong for every bag / suitcase. Schedules change but roughly 6 am to 9 pm. I took the bus around 5 pm leaving the airport and 9 am going to the airport. Both times on a Sunday and there were only 3 other passengers on it with me.

There is a stop 1 block from Pasteur Street (girlie bars).

There is a stop 1 block from Bui Vien Walking Street.

There are 2 stops 1 parallel street from the District 8 Gaito girls. District 8 is very long horizontally on the map but 90+% of the girls are at the east end of the district.

So one bus gets you to 4 important locations.

June 12 Sunday at 9:00 am I tried to get a Gojek ride twice but nobody available. Tried Grab and they wanted 230,000 ($9). Very few available early on a Sunday and jack the price knowing I had to catch a flight. A taxi would have been even more. Pissed me off so I walked for 7 minutes and grabbed the bus for 12,000 Dong (47 cents). Taking the Grab or taxi costs 19 times or 1,800% more.

Why am I pointing this out? Simple. I feel sorry for all the guys reading BS posts dreaming for months or even years to finally make it to Pu $$why Heaven. Then they arrive and reality crushes them and their dream vacation. Many of these guys have never had such a vacation and feel as if they did something wrong. That they screwed up. But it is many of the posters on sites such as these selling their endless BS.

I'm in HCMC for a week mostly for work purposes. I speak absolutely no Vietnamese, but I do have a co-worker here who does speak fluent Vietnamese, which helps. (he is Vietnamese, and I very clearly am not.).

At least at some of the bars, the girls are definitely available for takeout. We were walking down the street (where everyone is shoving menus in your face and trying to get you in their bar / restaurant) but some of the places are just too loud for this old guy.

But a smaller place a couple of girls grabbed us and managed to get us to a table. (I found out later that my co-worker knew some of them, so maybe they recognized him but saw me as fresh meat).

Anyhow, an older girl quoted me 2. 3 m all in (for unspecified services) but I negotiated down to 2 m. She took me to a small hotel up the street and around the corner, where she asked for the 2 m and then 200 k for the hotel (so much for my negotiated discount). But she immediately removed all her clothes, and mine, and began BBBJ. I did some DATY (probably not the best idea, but she seemed clean) and eventually she put a cover on me for FS. At my age with a cover I'm not finishing that way, so eventually we finished with HJ (cover still on). We then just relaxed in the bed for a few minutes before getting dressed and leaving (and she asked for a 100 k tip, so ended up getting her 2. 3 m in the first place). But all in all, not a bad time and didn't feel too rushed.

Some other things I have learned: when you buy them drinks at 120 k, they generally get a 40 k cut. And the alcohol is weak enough that they can probably handle 40 drinks in an evening. Also, if they try to get you to do "balloons" (I had no idea what that was--and it was same place, but different girl on different night), it's a large balloon filled with nitrous oxide. Not my thing, so didn't really inhale much (gave it to her), but the balloons are priced the same as a girl's drink (120 k).

Hope that info is helpful for some.

Just a quick note on KTVs. In general, these are one of your most expensive options and not for everybody. You have to pay for the room, the girls, food and drink and almost everyone expects to be tipped. Everyone has different tastes and budgets, but for me, doing this every once in awhile is great. Before you start, always make sure you know the prices of everything and if you want to take the girl out. Definitely make sure the manager points out which girls will 'go out' and which ones do not. Generally, KTVs are for Asian clients, many of whom are even happy with just partying in the room and don't even plan on sleeping with the girls!

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2933883]Vendelo,

Vietnamese and Chinese believe women with bald pussies bring bad luck. They are called "White Tiger" and are avoided.

Out of the 100 girls I bagged in Vietnam I think I got only 1 bald pussy. The rest are hairy, some thin like new rice patches, some thick and tall like the deep green Amazon jungle.

I prefer them with thin hairs, look feminine and sexy, like fine dining, compared to thick bushes, like big buffets.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your reply. I have heard chinese men prefer hair but did not know the reason. I've also heard they don't DATY.

If you've only been with one shaved pussy out of 100, maybe I don't want to go to Vietnam! Haha.

KTVs are expensive venues aimed at Asians, mostly Korean, Chinese and Taiwanese, businessmen with expense accounts. Sellers would treat buyers to a night of food, drinks with girls in KTVs, then take them back to hotel all night.

Boss KTV has a few branches in HCMC, allegedly top of the line. I checked on the girls in Dis 8. They looked good. VN KTVs girls never branded themselves as premiere entertainers like Geishas in Japan. But KTVs' prices are ridiculous for everything, including $3,000, $4,000 bottles of Cognacs and Whiskeys, all fake liquors produced in back alleys shops. Don't let the girls order. Make sure you know prices of everything before you order and check the bills carefully. Some guys have to order the most expensive items to impress the girls or they would lose face.

There are rings of escort bookers pimping top quality, famous girls, movie stars, beauty queens, models, singers ect, $3 K to 5 K a night. They have been targets for vice cops and busted frequently.

Went to no name KTV at 13 Ly Tu Trong, Dis 1, high-class neighborhood but frequented by locals. Prices were low. I spent less than $100 a night including all tips, but Southern girls tend to look and act crude, did not take one home. As alternatives to bars in Little Tokyo, will ask local contacts for KTVs for local clients in Dis 3, Phu Nhuan and Tan Binh. There may be hot girls all night at low costs.

I went to the biggest Chinese hotel in Dis 5 with couple business guys. By 8 PM most girls had been taken, only 1 left. It was very dark inside, could not see her face, but she looked tall, in good shape so I took her back to the hotel for all night. Everyone had their hands out of tips, from the mamasan to the security guys outfront. Shit. Back to the hotel, her face was very ugly, like a monkey. Worse yet her pussy stank horribly. I made her take a shower but it still stank. I was extremely disgusted, told her to leave. Damn, I am still disgusted at her stink. Needless to say, I would never come back to that shithole hotel and KTV.

Vietnam is the world's capital of shady businesses, scams, gouging, especially related women and sex. I went to a lot of KTVs in China, ShenZhen, ChongPing, Dongguan, Beijing ect. Prices were posted upfront and very reasonable, no hidden charges, no scams, had many good times. Too bad Xi Jin Ping shut them all down. However, an America Born Chinese wingman, got sucked in by girl touts, both in Beijing and Shanghai bars and Tea houses, kidnapped, gouged for US $ 10 K's on his credit cards. He's an experienced monger, speak good Chinese, went with me to Tijuana many times, took HK girls to vacations ect. He wanted to fall in love so he let his guard down.

[QUOTE=Vendelo;2937616]……….If you've only been with one shaved pussy out of 100, maybe I don't want to go to Vietnam! Haha.[/QUOTE]Went to Vietnam in January and had two girls from Linh Cherry. First one had a bald pussy, the second had a heart shaped Bush. No hair on the lips but thick on top. I have seen pictures of trimmed heart shaped beavers but to experience once was a huge turn on.

[QUOTE=Tj555;2918408]I have delayed this post a bit due to laziness, but now finally get to posting:

First Gaito run. In HCMC District 1. Being easily suggestible, I chose a girl that had already had her URL listed here in the forum, looked good, and was close to my location:

[URL]https://www.gaito.org/gai-goi/chi-tiet/52038/kami-duyen-dang-xinh-sang-dep-sin-bao-ngon[/URL]



Total damage: 800 k for the girl as listed, 400 k foreigner surcharge, 200 k for the hotel - 1400 k all in.

Yes that's ridiculous for a foreigner surcharge to be so much.

Per instructions in this forum, I began this transaction by texting with her and saying "I'm a foreigner using google translate. " She immediately asked for 400 k foreigner surcharge. I agreed to this without negotiation as I'm leaving soon and I am too lazy to go to another area.

I had also just read a post from a member that said: he wanted to make sure he went all the way through the process and pop his Gaito cherry. I strongly agreed with this idea, as I had been postponing Gaito and wanted to make sure I went through with it all the way, today.

As I left the hotel, the front desk asked me to wait in the lobby while they checked the room, which took a few minutes.

Total time: about one hour from check in to checkout, including 30 minutes of waiting in the room for the girl to arrive.

As a final insult, I had intended on swiping the instant coffee and tea packets from the hotel room.

She swiped them first![/QUOTE]When and where does one learn of foreigner surcharge?

[QUOTE=DCups;2922529]Good job, Solo. There are definitely some stunners in Ho Chi Minh. I was supposed to go back there (from PI where I live) but the idiots that processed my visa mistakenly listed my last name twice on the visa so fucking Philippine Airlines wouldn't even let me on the flight. I am still fighting them to get my money back. I'll try again next year. Meanwhile, there's always Indonesia and Thailand. Cheers.[/QUOTE]Misspell a first name- leave off a middle name. Put a dot by your name. Your F'd.

[QUOTE=Joseph88;2931191]Gentlemen, does anyone know a good bar with multiple TVs that shows all the American NFL football games? Its an unusual time for games, I believe NFL games on Sundays in America will kick off in HCMC at midnight on a Monday so the bar would have to be open all night past midnight until 10 am.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Why not bring your own firestick and hook it up to a smart tv in your hotel. I do that all the time when I travel. I program Firesticks so I can get everything on them. It's not my platform but the programmer allows me to bring in my own customers (monthly subscription) . When overseas the tough part is watching the game live which is usually in some odd hour. If you're interested just dm me. If not no worries.

Hi,

I'm planning a trip to Saigon for 5 days and wanted to know if overnight outcalls are impossible in the city? I've been reading that the saigon is not for beginners and its mainly gaito / massage parlours. Is there a reccomended way for overnight outcalls?

Thanks in advance.

I'm going to apply online for the EVisa as my trip is a month away. I assume I'll need to get a photo that is separate from the one inside my passport and scan it as part of my application online. Do I need to bring the physical photo with me when I get to the immigration at the airport and surrender it to them?

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;2953170]I'm going to apply online for the EVisa as my trip is a month away. I assume I'll need to get a photo that is separate from the one inside my passport and scan it as part of my application online. Do I need to bring the physical photo with me when I get to the immigration at the airport and surrender it to them?[/QUOTE]No unless it is business visa.

Am planning to visit Ho Chi Min in the second week of November and have been reading the reviews, not much mention on any good 5 star hotels which are girl friendly. Request advice please.

Hi All,

As a laid-back traveller, I have been planning a solo long-stay (35-day) trip to one place, and I am confused about whether to travel to Saigon. HCM or Pattaya.

Can anyone tell me about the culture compared to Pattaya in terms of parties, good-looking girls, prices for FS, GFE and more?

As everyone knows, Pattaya goes crazy about clubs, chills, and how HCM is compared similarly.

[URL]https://guestfriendlyhotel.com/guest-friendly-hotel-ho-chi-minh-city/[/URL]

[QUOTE=TotalFreak;2955336]Hi All,

As a laid-back traveller, I have been planning a solo long-stay (35-day) trip to one place, and I am confused about whether to travel to Saigon. HCM or Pattaya.

Can anyone tell me about the culture compared to Pattaya in terms of parties, good-looking girls, prices for FS, GFE and more?

As everyone knows, Pattaya goes crazy about clubs, chills, and how HCM is compared similarly.[/QUOTE][URL]https://guestfriendlyhotel.com/guest-friendly-hotel-ho-chi-minh-city/[/URL]

I am thinking to travel to HCMC, Which is the best district to stay? I plan to see ladies from Vietnam Cupid and some out calls. Ill be visiting Cebu first and then HCMC.

District 1 (Central location) or District 3 (Preferred by expats).

[QUOTE=HotelAl;2957704]I am thinking to travel to HCMC, Which is the best district to stay? I plan to see ladies from Vietnam Cupid and some out calls. Ill be visiting Cebu first and then HCMC.[/QUOTE]

I'll be staying at a hotel near Bui Vien off a side street but actually a bit closer to that big park. Wondering if it's walkable from there to Ben Tranh market and Nguyen Hue Street which I believe is where the big pedestrian walkway is. Or are the streets which connect these areas way too difficult to cross with that crazy traffic in Ho Chi Minh?

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;2957954]I'll be staying at a hotel near Bui Vien off a side street but actually a bit closer to that big park. Wondering if it's walkable from there to Ben Tranh market and Nguyen Hue Street which I believe is where the big pedestrian walkway is. Or are the streets which connect these areas way too difficult to cross with that crazy traffic in Ho Chi Minh?[/QUOTE]You can walk to Ben Thanh Market from Bui Vien, though it would not be advisable. As for Nguyen Hue, no no no. It is a good ways away and the traffic is murder. You can get the Grab App and hire a motorbike to take you to Cho Ben Thanh and Nguyen Hue, Dong Khoi and LE Loi or Pasteur. Cheap and quick! Good luck.

Ben Thanh market is only 1 block NN West of Bui Vien, easily walkable. Main intersections have traffic lights and traffic does stop. Occasionally some fuckers in cars or bikes may try to run red lights, so still look around and be careful.

From Ben Thanh market walk North East on LE Thanh Ton about 3000 feet, you will reach the huge City Hall, which is the start of Nguyen Hue walking street. That street takes you to the river bank.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2958264]Ben Thanh market is only 1 block NN West of Bui Vien, easily walkable. Main intersections have traffic lights and traffic does stop. Occasionally some fuckers in cars or bikes may try to run red lights, so still look around and be careful.

From Ben Thanh market walk North East on LE Thanh Ton about 3000 feet, you will reach the huge City Hall, which is the start of Nguyen Hue walking street. That street takes you to the river bank.[/QUOTE]Thanks for this. I'll report on my trip coming up later this month.

Hey,

I'm thinking about visiting Vietnam. I also curious about mongering here. Where's the best places to check out for streetwalkers or websites? How much is a average price? I'm thinking of mostly staying in ho chi minh. What's the best tools to use? I have a little experience in Thailand. Tinder was alright to use or thaicupid. I heard Vietnam was less pricier then other Bangkok. Is that true? If you could recommend that would be great. Ty.

I was staying in HCMC for only two nights since I still have Cambodia, Thailand and Indonesia to travel through. After flying for two days, I decided to just take the first night to recover from jet lag instead of even attempting to monger. So this unfortunately left me with only one night to check the scene out so went over to Little Tokyo Japan Town. Upon arrival at the gates, I saw a few hot freelancers and as I ventured down each alleyway, I was met by stunning looking girls all waving and saying Hello Sir. At one corner as I was the only guy walking there, at least 20 women all got up from their chairs and did this same greeting simultaneously. This is a sight that was a bit overwhelming and I'll certainly remember the moment.

Now the thing about Japan Town is that from advance research, there are many bars that offer just overpriced drinking companions. This sort of activity is quite popular among Japanese and Koreans as it's part of business entertainment culture. Although I'm Asian from Canada, just drinking with girls no matter how hot they are is a waste of time and money for me. To each his own. I'm there for full service only. In addition to the much recommend Linh Cherry Spa, I did manage to figure out that the several massage shops in Little Tokyo are the places for FS. These include one called Cherry Spa which is a part of the same umbrella as Linh Cherry but maybe at a slightly lower price point, Nice Massage and Sky Spa. Sky Spa like Linh Cherry is located just outside of Little Japan on the main streets.

These massage shops serve as a front for FS as girls and / or mamasans hold cards with massage room rates. But mamasans at both Sky Spa and Nice Massage whispered in my ear that boom boom was available for 2,000,000 be all in (no extra room charges). Most places here were not too aggressive with the exception of Nice Massage when the mamasan along with two of her girls tried hard to pull me into their shop. I did manage to break free because I already decided that if I have only one night there, I ought to try the big one Linh Cherry first even though I knew they were at 2,500,000 be. If I had extra nights I would have like to try out all them.

Linh Cherry Experience.

So at about 11:30 pm, I went up the stairs of Linh Cherry where a mamasan greeted me. All the girls much like at Cherry, Sky Spa and Nice Massage were wearing long white outfits. I was then steered to a young guy at the desk and he showed me the card of room rates including 60 minutes room charge at 500,000 be. I wanted to get him to verbalize exactly what was offered and he said I have to pay the 500,000 room charge first before discussion of services. I wasn't going to take any of this nonsense so he must have sensed that I was more than willing to walk out. He then asked for my photo ID for some reason. I was thinking, what the fuck, but since I was holding my phone anyway and had a photo of my passport already, I just decided on the spot to show him. He looked at it and immediately said it's 2,500,000 for boom boom with no extra 500,000 room charge. I really don't know what that all was about but I agreed to pay the amount and he then used an ink pad to stamp three stars on my wrist and directed me further into a room just behind him. This is where another mamasan was waiting and she invited me to sit with her on a sofa. She then called about 30-40 girls into this room which wasn't really that big. I suddenly had a room full of white dressed girls crowded in two rows with the first row kneeling and the back row standing in a horseshoe formation in front of us on the sofa. It was a sight to see with 30-40 pairs of eyeballs looking at me at the same time, many of them smiling. I had to pick one of course and I actually said out loud that they were all so beautiful which resulted in even more grins. It was an overwhelming task because the overall quality among this huge selection all crammed into this room was very high.

I settled on one named Anne in the front row. I followed Anne through the back out of a back exit where there were even more girls in white just sitting around waiting to be in the next lineup I guess. Right across the back alley was the entrance to a high rise building as we took a small elevator up to floor 6 where I followed Anne into our fun room. The room was sort of divided into a bathroom and a bedroom separated by a wall but no door that I noticed. The bedroom itself was left very dark with no lights turned on by Anne while the bathroom was lit. Anne instructed me to disrobe while she kept most of her clothing on. She then led me into the bathroom and asked me to stand in the tub. She stood just outside the tub and this is how she washed me. While this is okay, I would have preferred her to be in the tub with me but I went along with her system. After drying me off, she asked me to lie face down on the bed.

This is when she started a massage and boy was she ever strong. She actually put in effort to do a deep massage which I found a bit painful. I told her that she was strong which she laughed. She backed it up a bit as I endured her routine. After this she got me to turn over to the front and used a small flashlight to inspect my private parts since the room was so dark. This seemed funny as I never saw a girl use a flashlight before during a session. I jokingly asked if everything was okay doctor? She giggled some more. I was really hoping that she doesn't kill me on the front side too with her strong hands. Fortunately this is when she completely disrobed to reveal a great pair of fake boobs which she used to massage my front side while also alternating to kiss and lick my nipples. I've had this nipples think on me by other Asian girls and to be honest it doesn't so much for me but since she was also using one hand on my prick, I was starting to finally get turned on. She noticed that I brought my own condom which I wanted her to use. She asked me how many did I bring on my trip. I said a pack and she then asked me how many in a pack? I lied and just blurted out ten when I probably brought 15-16 to last me for the trip. She was giggling more at this point.

Anyway she started a covered BJ which was not bad but of course I would have liked BBBJ. During the covered BJ she used tissue to wipe my prick at times for some reason before finally climbing aboard for cowgirl. She was pretty decent with this along with her soft moans. After awhile I asked to change positions to missionary where she was also really good here. I moved in for a kiss but she didn't really go for it so I sensed that there was no kissing so not a GFE session. I went with the flow since this was my first time in this scene. Her pussy felt good enough that I did finish. She was actually surprised that I was able to finish since I told her that I didn't get much sleep from my long flights into Asia. She even looked at the condom right after I pulled out and said there was a 'small finish' judging from just a smaller amount of cum inside. Funny that she actually bothered to do this at all but I was satisfied.

She went off on shower off suggesting that I lay in bed to rest. Afterwards she put most of her clothes back on and led me back to the tub to wash me again. Again I wished she did this together but if that's their system then so be it. I had a decent time with a very hot girl despite a lack of real GFE. I don't know if this is the norm there at Linh Cherry but I had only one night to experience this scene. With all our laughs through the session (she had much better than expected English by the way) and I managed to finish, I had a good time. No clock watching whatsoever.

After I left the place and sat on a bench in the main alleyway of Little Tokyo, I met two other dudes there also from the Toronto area where I'm from. We had a great convo about Vietnam.

As sidenotes, I stayed in district 1 within steps of the party street Bui Vien. I actually found that scene way too crowded and loud with partying tourists. Didn't see much mongering opportunities aside from a few freelancers in which some were definite ladyboys. Also heard that many hotels there were not girl friendly. Mine had written statement info inside my room stating no prostitutes allowed in rooms but wasn't fully sure if in practice it was okay or not. Didn't matter anyway since my only night available was for Japan Town. The location was great for walking distance to Ben Trahn Market where I liked eating for cheap. Also took a girl scooter drivers food tour just before my Japan Town visit and this was a ton of fun too.

This was my first trip to Vietnam. Would I go back? If this scene was the only mongering scene in Southeast Asia, I would return in a heartbeat as the girls in Japan Town are hot enough. But this was my first stop at the beginning of my four country mongering tour so it would largely depend how the other destinations compare.

Thanks to all who help answer my many questions over the last few months. Hopefully I did my part with this report as I said I would do.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;2961858]I was staying in HCMC for only two nights .

Linh Cherry Experience.

So at about 11:30 pm, I went up the stairs of Linh Cherry where a mamasan greeted me. All the girls much like at Cherry, Sky Spa and Nice Massage were wearing long white outfits. I was then steered to a young guy at the desk and he showed me the card of room rates including 60 minutes room charge at 500,000 be. I wanted to get him to verbalize exactly what was offered and he said I have to pay the 500,000 room charge first before discussion of services. I wasn't going to take any of this nonsense so he must have sensed that I was more than willing to walk out. He then asked for my photo ID for some reason. I was thinking, what the fuck, but since I was holding my phone anyway and had a photo of my passport already, I just decided on the spot to show him. He looked at it and immediately said it's 2,500,000 for boom boom with no extra 500,000 room charge. I really don't know what that all was about but I agreed to pay the amount and he then used an ink pad to stamp three stars on my wrist and directed me further into a room just behind him. This is where another mamasan was waiting and she invited me to sit with her on a sofa. She then called about 30-40 girls into this room which wasn't really that big. I suddenly had a room full of white dressed girls crowded in two rows with the first row kneeling and the back row standing in a horseshoe formation in front of us on the sofa. It was a sight to see with 30-40 pairs of eyeballs looking at me at the same time, many of them smiling. I had to pick one of course and I actually said out loud that they were all so beautiful which resulted in even more grins. It was an overwhelming task because the overall quality among this huge selection all crammed into this room was very high.

I settled on one named Anne in the front row. I followed Anne through the back out of a back exit where there were even more girls in white just sitting around waiting to be in the next lineup I guess. Right across the back alley was the entrance to a high rise building as we took a small elevator up to floor 6 where I followed Anne into our fun room. The room was sort of divided into a bathroom and a bedroom separated by a wall but no door that I noticed. The bedroom itself was left very dark with no lights turned on by Anne while the bathroom was lit. Anne instructed me to disrobe while she kept most of her clothing on. She then led me into the bathroom and asked me to stand in the tub. She stood just outside the tub and this is how she washed me. While this is okay, I would have preferred her to be in the tub with me but I went along with her system. After drying me off, she asked me to lie face down on the bed.

This is when she started a massage and boy was she ever strong. She actually put in effort to do a deep massage which I found a bit painful. I told her that she was strong which she laughed. She backed it up a bit as I endured her routine. After this she got me to turn over to the front and used a small flashlight to inspect my private parts since the room was so dark. This seemed funny as I never saw a girl use a flashlight before during a session. I jokingly asked if everything was okay doctor? She giggled some more. I was really hoping that she doesn't kill me on the front side too with her strong hands. Fortunately this is when she completely disrobed to reveal a great pair of fake boobs which she used to massage my front side while also alternating to kiss and lick my nipples. I've had this nipples think on me by other Asian girls and to be honest it doesn't so much for me but since she was also using one hand on my prick, I was starting to finally get turned on. She noticed that I brought my own condom which I wanted her to use. She asked me how many did I bring on my trip. I said a pack and she then asked me how many in a pack? I lied and just blurted out ten when I probably brought 15-16 to last me for the trip. She was giggling more at this point.

Anyway she started a covered BJ which was not bad but of course I would have liked BBBJ. During the covered BJ she used tissue to wipe my prick at times for some reason before finally climbing aboard for cowgirl. She was pretty decent with this along with her soft moans. After awhile I asked to change positions to missionary where she was also really good here. I moved in for a kiss but she didn't really go for it so I sensed that there was no kissing so not a GFE session. I went with the flow since this was my first time in this scene. Her pussy felt good enough that I did finish. She was actually surprised that I was able to finish since I told her that I didn't get much sleep from my long flights into Asia. She even looked at the condom right after I pulled out and said there was a 'small finish' judging from just a smaller amount of cum inside. Funny that she actually bothered to do this at all but I was satisfied.

She went off on shower off suggesting that I lay in bed to rest. Afterwards she put most of her clothes back on and led me back to the tub to wash me again. Again I wished she did this together but if that's their system then so be it. I had a decent time with a very hot girl despite a lack of real GFE. I don't know if this is the norm there at Linh Cherry but I had only one night to experience this scene. With all our laughs through the session (she had much better than expected English by the way) and I managed to finish, I had a good time. No clock watching whatsoever.

Thanks to all who help answer my many questions over the last few months. Hopefully I did my part with this report as I said I would do.[/QUOTE]

Good report and similar to my experiences last January. Gave two reviews on this forum from LC. Both girls gave me BBBJ without me asking and both allowed DATY. DFK / LFK was a no no and I respected their decision on that. I'm there again in January and I am going to offer them money to see if they will do GFE with kissing as I find this a huge turn on during the session.

Hello guys,

What are the chances of bareback being available from the Vietnamese girls? In the Philippines sex without condoms is pretty standard, do the Vietnamese have the same attitude?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=ThePenetrator;2964912]Hello guys,

What are the chances of bareback being available from the Vietnamese girls? In the Philippines sex without condoms is pretty standard, do the Vietnamese have the same attitude?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Not at all. Viet girls are condoms Nazis LOL.

Picked a "cute" girl from Gaito. She even sent me face video to verify.

She came to my hotel looking different, but claiming she was the girl in the photos. I asked her to leave.

She threatened to call the police unless I give her 500,000 ($20 usd) for the taxi. This is at least 10 x what a taxi cost since she got here in 15 minutes. But I had no choice.

From now on, I'll stick to massage parlors only.

You got fucked by the hoe. They will squeeze you if they think they can do it. Gaito in Dis 1 are mostly old, hardened, nasty and mercenary because they could rob foreigners and get away with it. You should report this nasty hoe to Gaito admin to get her banned.

First of all, police resources are stretched. They would never come for civil matters, especially matters involving hoes. If they ever come, they would verify the facts if any criminal codes were violated. If not, they would just leave.

You should call hotel's security to kick her out. If she acts up, security guys know how to deal with them. They would remember those nasty girls and ban them from entering in the future.

Gaito is Dis 8 and 10 deal mostly with locals. They are young, pretty, nice, sweet, honest.

[QUOTE=NRandom940;2965056]Picked a "cute" girl from Gaito. She even sent me face video to verify.

She came to my hotel looking different, but claiming she was the girl in the photos. I asked her to leave.

She threatened to call the police unless I give her 500,000 ($20 usd) for the taxi. This is at least 10 x what a taxi cost since she got here in 15 minutes. But I had no choice.

From now on, I'll stick to massage parlors only.[/QUOTE]Of course you have choice. Prostitution is officially forbidden in Vietnam. There is no way she would have called the police. Another classic scam.

[QUOTE=JohnWick6969;2965042]Not at all. Viet girls are condoms Nazis LOL.[/QUOTE]I'm happy they use them. Would be terrible if they wouldn't.

Guys, one from left field. I've been to 5 ATMs in D1 today trying to get cash and, while they were functioning, none would give me cash. I bumped into a group is Swedes walking around trying to do the same. Anyone have some reliable banks or even specific ATMs that I should be looking for that will allow VND cash withdrawals from a foreign Wise Visa card?

I got cash from the airport ATM but in the city do I need to go into the bank branch?

There are a gazillion tourists in town so they must be getting cash somewhere.

FWIW, yes my card is being accepted everywhere for point of sale purchases.

Thanks. G.

[QUOTE=JohnWick6969;2965133]Of course you have choice. Prostitution is officially forbidden in Vietnam. There is no way she would have called the police. Another classic scam.[/QUOTE]I gladly parted with $20 to get her to leave with no risk of police. Lesson learned.

[QUOTE=NRandom940;2965561]I gladly parted with $20 to get her to leave with no risk of police. Lesson learned.[/QUOTE]I never paid for a girl to leave. I raised my voice that's enough. The girl is wrong she s not the girl you chose so no reason to pay. You didn't do anything with her so no reason to pay. Else she does this scam over and over and she doesn't even need to perform.

I would like to thank the author of original report on bars lined up from corner bar onwards. Not able to find the thread now. Did a kind of pub hopping, went to six bars in a row, most girls were good, got drunk in the bargain. Final stop was last bar on that road. I was only one looking for a pick up. Even the owner came and met. Fat east Asian, funnybone. Eyed one hottie here, I guess bar name was du drop something. She was good at small talk. Bar has large pool table with Australian expats playing. Had few drinks with her. 100 usd was the fees. Went to hotel on her two wheeler. Reception kept her ID. She was a beauty. Flawless skin, laser removed all hairs, perky boobs. Bathed me. Sloppy BBJ, I couldn't cum. Had covered sex, still couldn't cum, too many drinks. We slept naked. Didn't refuse a early morning BJ. Finished in doggy, even fingered her ass. Said no to anal though. Chatted a lot, she told while choosing a girl, its okay to size them up, take your hands inside clothes, people do so before deciding. Similarly ask the girl what all she can offer beforehand. There's no restriction on number of shots in full night payment. She sleeps between morning 9 to evening five, and can stay awake all night. I slept else she was expecting more action. Didn't share number, can do so on next visit. Bathed me again and left. Worth repeating next time.

[QUOTE=JohnWick6969;2965133]Of course you have choice. Prostitution is officially forbidden in Vietnam. There is no way she would have called the police. Another classic scam.[/QUOTE]Almost all gaito girls photos are photoshopped.

In my experience 99% of Gaito girls you meet are indeed.

The girls you.

See on the site and I think she was indeed the same.

Girl.

They would never call the police but have some buddies.

And, knowing your address, you did right to pay up.

[QUOTE=TedWhite1;2968383]Almost all gaito girls photos are photoshopped.

In my experience 99% of Gaito girls you meet are indeed.

The girls you.

See on the site and I think she was indeed the same.

Girl.

They would never call the police but have some buddies.

And, knowing your address, you did right to pay up.[/QUOTE]So many guys are scared of everything these days.

[QUOTE=BulletWalebaba;2968376]I would like to thank the author of original report on bars lined up from corner bar onwards. Not able to find the thread now. Did a kind of pub hopping, went to six bars in a row, most girls were good, got drunk in the bargain. Final stop was last bar on that road. I was only one looking for a pick up. Even the owner came and met. Fat east Asian, funnybone. Eyed one hottie here, I guess bar name was du drop something. She was good at small talk. Bar has large pool table with Australian expats playing. Had few drinks with her. 100 usd was the fees. Went to hotel on her two wheeler. Reception kept her ID. She was a beauty. Flawless skin, laser removed all hairs, perky boobs. Bathed me. Sloppy BBJ, I couldn't cum. Had covered sex, still couldn't cum, too many drinks. We slept naked. Didn't refuse a early morning BJ. Finished in doggy, even fingered her ass. Said no to anal though. Chatted a lot, she told while choosing a girl, its okay to size them up, take your hands inside clothes, people do so before deciding. Similarly ask the girl what all she can offer beforehand. There's no restriction on number of shots in full night payment. She sleeps between morning 9 to evening five, and can stay awake all night. I slept else she was expecting more action. Didn't share number, can do so on next visit. Bathed me again and left. Worth repeating next time.[/QUOTE]I would love to know who this lady is, I have had many hit and miss nights in VT.

[QUOTE=BulletWalebaba;2968376]I would like to thank the author of original report on bars lined up from corner bar onwards. Not able to find the thread now. Did a kind of pub hopping, went to six bars in a row, most girls were good, got drunk in the bargain. Final stop was last bar on that road. I was only one looking for a pick up. Even the owner came and met. Fat east Asian, funnybone. Eyed one hottie here, I guess bar name was du drop something. She was good at small talk. Bar has large pool table with Australian expats playing. Had few drinks with her. 100 usd was the fees. Went to hotel on her two wheeler. Reception kept her ID. She was a beauty. Flawless skin, laser removed all hairs, perky boobs. Bathed me. Sloppy BBJ, I couldn't cum. Had covered sex, still couldn't cum, too many drinks. We slept naked. Didn't refuse a early morning BJ. Finished in doggy, even fingered her ass. Said no to anal though. Chatted a lot, she told while choosing a girl, its okay to size them up, take your hands inside clothes, people do so before deciding. Similarly ask the girl what all she can offer beforehand. There's no restriction on number of shots in full night payment. She sleeps between morning 9 to evening five, and can stay awake all night. I slept else she was expecting more action. Didn't share number, can do so on next visit. Bathed me again and left. Worth repeating next time.[/QUOTE]Can you share where these bars are.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2965109]You got fucked by the hoe. They will squeeze you if they think they can do it. Gaito in Dis 1 are mostly old, hardened, nasty and mercenary because they could rob foreigners and get away with it. You should report this nasty hoe to Gaito admin to get her banned.

First of all, police resources are stretched. They would never come for civil matters, especially matters involving hoes. If they ever come, they would verify the facts if any criminal codes were violated. If not, they would just leave.

You should call hotel's security to kick her out. If she acts up, security guys know how to deal with them. They would remember those nasty girls and ban them from entering in the future.

Gaito is Dis 8 and 10 deal mostly with locals. They are young, pretty, nice, sweet, honest.[/QUOTE]Yes, the other districts are also cheaper, I had good experiences in Phú Nhuậand. Thủ Đ7913;see was a funny / not funny experience, the girl was not down with foreigner and walked right back out of the room. When I was leaving her friends had a good laugh. I have noticed they change profiles often so reporting them might be pointless though you can leave a review.

I looked back but don't see that I ever reported on HCMC. I have been to this city many times and love the feel. It is a great place to visit, eat, and have fun.

My go to spot for quick and easy is Bui Vien Walking Street and the spas down the alley ways. There are 2 girls I had many visits with and a few I tried. The alley that splits the park and walking street has a few spas down them. The girls are straight forward and will tell you what they offer and cost. A few girls refused full service and were really hot. I beggged but no budging. 1 girl and her manager on walking street tried to drag me into their shop but the girl was honest and said she is not full service so I just left. There is a cute blonde on walking street with a small body around 20. I had great time with her. The other girl sits near the alley entance at the park side. Full service was 1 -1. 5 mil.

Gaito: Phú Nhuậand had a good options and many close together. I was able to book back to back and had good experience. These places are usually mechanical. Take a shower, wait for her to shower, BBBJ, covered few positions. Finish, shower again, get dressed and leave. About a 30-45 min time but it is cheap and the girls were under 25 and the profiles with reviews had pics of their body. Full service is 400,000 to 1 mil. Rooms were 100 to 300,000.

District 1 Japan area was not very busy with guys, but a lot of hot girls. Did not want to pay 2 mil this trip but I have had great experiences here in the past. Less mechincal and you get to see her face before deciding unlike gaito.

[QUOTE=JohnWick6969;2965133]Of course you have choice. Prostitution is officially forbidden in Vietnam. There is no way she would have called the police. Another classic scam.[/QUOTE]Yup, oldest scam in the book. A sex worker cannot "call the cops" for anything related to sex work. Prostitution is not a recognized or legal job.

Hotels do not like sex workers either, and only tolerate them for the guests who like them.

Until you run into one associated to a higher up on the police force or in government. Then the hotel won't know who you are. That's a dangerous assumption.

[QUOTE=Rocko20;2972177]Yup, oldest scam in the book. A sex worker cannot "call the cops" for anything related to sex work. Prostitution is not a recognized or legal job.

Hotels do not like sex workers either, and only tolerate them for the guests who like them.[/QUOTE]

First stop Bui Vien street. Some great bars, good music and some hot dancers. Very busy, lot of non-mongering tourists, grab drivers and old ladies from nearby Asian countries makes it difficult to figure which bar to go and have a look! Some side streets have massage parlours with std happy ending or more depending on the lady. They keep on changing the domain for Gaito so could not get hold of anything there. I used another site called Gaipho? Or something similar to get one to visit me. Hotel address given on text. Hotels mostly in Dist 8 and Dist 10. SOP -Go to hotel and wait for the lady to arrive in about 20-30 minutes. Few ladies hung up on the phone after hearing english, few laughed it off and few asked for 'dick size' LOL. FS short time available at around 1-1. 5 M plus hotel and tip. Sometimes small charge for foreigners of 200-300 K quoted. Little Tokyo has some very talented ladies but I was busy with one I bumped into Pasteur st so could not experience.

I was watching this video here.

[URL]https://youtu.be/HBcxlrgadNE[/URL]

And became obsessed with the girl at 0:56! I am going to be there in 3 weeks, and would like to know if any fellow monger has any idea of the name and / or the area of this establishment. Thanks in advance!

[QUOTE=JohnnieX;2977902]I was watching this video here.

[URL]https://youtu.be/HBcxlrgadNE[/URL]

And became obsessed with the girl at 0:56! I am going to be there in 3 weeks, and would like to know if any fellow monger has any idea of the name and / or the area of this establishment. Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]Looks like the Little Tokyo (Little Japan) area behind Linh Cherry; solely on the basis of the narrow alleyways and the sheer number of chics hanging out in the alleys. It's an area sanctioned by the government of Vietnam to cater to tourists, primarily Japanese and Korean due to the style of entertainment that's offered. This is what a local tour guide told us when I visited in December '24.

[QUOTE=Xnxx1;2970574]Can you share where these bars are.[/QUOTE]He is obviously talking about the bars near the Palace Hotel and Casino in Vung Tau. Don't know why it is in the HCMC thread.

There are lots of girls but you cannot take them back to the Palace. You will need a local hotel that is cheaper.

Hi,

Can someone who knows both countries well tell me the difference in the behavior of the girls? In other words, which one is more friendly and gives more GF experience? Then. Is it easy to have some girlfriends in Vietnam too?

Thanks!

Hello fellow mongers.

I spent 5 months in Bangkok, where I had a lot of freebies, mostly met on ThaiFriendly, some on Tinder. When I say free, I mean it, I didn't even pay dinner in most cases.

Now I am in Saigon and I am struggling hard. Very few matches on Tinder, and girls do not reply, same with Badoo. One girl I met on Tinder asked me money straight away as soon as we moved to WhatsApp. Tinder and Badoo are full of beautiful girls, but I matched with very few, and not the ones I list the most. If I am lucky I get a match every two days, looks like I am in Europe, not in Asia. On Tinder in Thailand I did not have a great success either, but I was able to pull a few freebies. ThaiFriendly works much better. I do not pay for Tinder or Badoo, but I paid for ThaiFriendly because the price is reasonable.

I had a number of girls offering boom boom (so they call it here) on the streets, but so far I declined.

I heard of people getting constantly laid in Vietnam. Should I randomly stop girls I like in shopping centres or on the street? I am struggling hard.

Any suggestion is highly appreciated!

Can anyone recommend providers who will offer a long stay 3 some. I'd be looking for several rounds with anal being a big plus. I'm going to be staying right off Bui Vien street so I know I will have a lot of girls to choose from, and a lot of girls trying to scam me. Please PM me if you have specific provider you can recommend. I'd love to know the details on your session and what's offered.

[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2978990]Hello fellow mongers.
Now I am in Saigon and I am struggling hard. Very few matches on Tinder, and girls do not reply, same with Badoo. [/QUOTE]If the girls are not even matching then all they know about you is your profile. The pics and the bio? Something is either turning them off or not catching their attention.

Vn 'real' girls are much more focus on their life and future. How can you profile address these?

I suggest trying some different profiles. If you have too many pic try less. If one pic, then try more.

If your bio is short, try longer. If long, try shorter.

I believe less is better creating more aeras for girls to want to know you.

Hey folks, I was looking for input by the regulars of Vietnam. I'm planning a multi-country trip later this year and Vietnam is possibly on the list. I would only be able to do a 3 night trip and wanted to know which city I should go to if I wanted to monger but also be a regular tourist.

So far in looking at the forum, HCMC looks like the obvious choice for mongering but what I've seen on Google Hanoi is good for touring. For the folks that have experienced both places what would suggest for a 3 night trip? I appreciate any advice and thanks.

My job is to prep sexcations for my clients, and our trips to Vietnam is 30:1, HCMC is far better with much better options and girls.

DM me if you need some advice or girls numbers.

[QUOTE=Zeyto;2980544]Hey folks, I was looking for input by the regulars of Vietnam. I'm planning a multi-country trip later this year and Vietnam is possibly on the list. I would only be able to do a 3 night trip and wanted to know which city I should go to if I wanted to monger but also be a regular tourist.

So far in looking at the forum, HCMC looks like the obvious choice for mongering but what I've seen on Google Hanoi is good for touring. For the folks that have experienced both places what would suggest for a 3 night trip? I appreciate any advice and thanks.[/QUOTE]

I am using the same profile I had in Thailand. I am not saying that in Thailand I had incredible results on Tinder (I did not use Badoo), but I was able to match and meet a number or girls, even though the most I have known were from ThaiFriendly.

Indeed here is a desert, very few matches, and with the least attractive ones, which on a second look I unmatch, because I do not think they are worth the effort. The only one who really wanted to meet me was a girl from the Philippines, who is teaching English in Saigon. She is overweight and not that attractive, and when she realised I was not into her, she unmatched me.

I guess girls here really do not like me. I mean, I would have more chances to get laid in London, than I have here.

I asked the number of a girl who works in a grocery shop, she was enthusiast, she even installed WhatsApp because I have only data on the phone. She was smiling at me a lot. But when I invited her out for a date, she told me she is always busy. So I asked her why she gave me the number, and she said she only wanted to have a friend.

I had a lot of fun in Thailand, gave me a lot of confidence, I got here and my confidence has been destroyed.

I think I will approach more girls in person, and let's see how it goes. I am tired to swipe left and right.

[QUOTE=ShaggerAu;2979488]If the girls are not even matching then all they know about you is your profile. The pics and the bio? Something is either turning them off or not catching their attention.

Vn 'real' girls are much more focus on their life and future. How can you profile address these?

I suggest trying some different profiles. If you have too many pic try less. If one pic, then try more.

If your bio is short, try longer. If long, try shorter.

I believe less is better creating more aeras for girls to want to know you.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Rewsna;2980785]My job is to prep sexcations for my clients, and our trips to Vietnam is 30:1, HCMC is far better with much better options and girls.

DM me if you need some advice or girls numbers.[/QUOTE]Hello,

What s the ave of the girls you know?

I live in hcmc and I'm looking for ladies 20-30 that can stay overnight, GFE if possible.

Hope to hear from you.

Was on a 3 week trip of Saigon in late January.

Out of curiosity, went to this DJ coffee place called Hana in the same district as the airport.

Ambience. Large, stylish, big sofas.

Music. Too loud!

Smoke. A bit as many were smoking.

DJ. Smoking hot!

Dancers. One was bit aged, the other looked about early 20's with a good body.

Other girls - 2-3 girls came and sat next to me. None looked that great, so did not entertain.

Damages: 200 k VND (1 beer and 1 iced tea).

Wanted to explore other DJ coffees and I had heard good things about them. Other FRs coming up.

[QUOTE=JonesLover;2978893]Hi,

Can someone who knows both countries well tell me the difference in the behavior of the girls? In other words, which one is more friendly and gives more GF experience? Then. Is it easy to have some girlfriends in Vietnam too?

Thanks![/QUOTE]PH girls are more GFE in nature plus the English helps.

VN girls are more traditonal and could take days if not weeks to score. Plus the language barrier is a major roadblock.

[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2978990]Hello fellow mongers.

I spent 5 months in Bangkok, where I had a lot of freebies, mostly met on ThaiFriendly, some on Tinder. When I say free, I mean it, I didn't even pay dinner in most cases.

Now I am in Saigon and I am struggling hard. Very few matches on Tinder, and girls do not reply, same with Badoo. One girl I met on Tinder asked me money straight away as soon as we moved to WhatsApp. Tinder and Badoo are full of beautiful girls, but I matched with very few, and not the ones I list the most. If I am lucky I get a match every two days, looks like I am in Europe, not in Asia. On Tinder in Thailand I did not have a great success either, but I was able to pull a few freebies. ThaiFriendly works much better. I do not pay for Tinder or Badoo, but I paid for ThaiFriendly because the price is reasonable.

I had a number of girls offering boom boom (so they call it here) on the streets, but so far I declined.

I heard of people getting constantly laid in Vietnam. Should I randomly stop girls I like in shopping centres or on the street? I am struggling hard.

Any suggestion is highly appreciated![/QUOTE]VietnamCupid has more genuine girls than other apps. Tinder is shit and full of scammers.

Take a paid plan on VietnamCupid and explore. But, it will take days and weeks to score as the girls are mostly looking for long term relationships.

[QUOTE=MWiggly2;2979187]Can anyone recommend providers who will offer a long stay 3 some. I'd be looking for several rounds with anal being a big plus. I'm going to be staying right off Bui Vien street so I know I will have a lot of girls to choose from, and a lot of girls trying to scam me. Please PM me if you have specific provider you can recommend. I'd love to know the details on your session and what's offered.[/QUOTE]Try VTB spa, some of the girls will be open to 2 hands (threesome) but do not expect them to play with each other. Just two BJs or HJs.

[QUOTE=Zeyto;2980544]Hey folks, I was looking for input by the regulars of Vietnam. I'm planning a multi-country trip later this year and Vietnam is possibly on the list. I would only be able to do a 3 night trip and wanted to know which city I should go to if I wanted to monger but also be a regular tourist.

So far in looking at the forum, HCMC looks like the obvious choice for mongering but what I've seen on Google Hanoi is good for touring. For the folks that have experienced both places what would suggest for a 3 night trip? I appreciate any advice and thanks.[/QUOTE]If you are in the country just for 3 days, and mongering is your main agenda, definitely Saigon.

If you want to visit Halong Bay etc, just take the quick flight out to Saigon for 1 day. Hanoi has options, but nothing as compared to Saigon.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2965498]Guys, one from left field. I've been to 5 ATMs in D1 today trying to get cash and, while they were functioning, none would give me cash. I bumped into a group is Swedes walking around trying to do the same. Anyone have some reliable banks or even specific ATMs that I should be looking for that will allow VND cash withdrawals from a foreign Wise Visa card?

I got cash from the airport ATM but in the city do I need to go into the bank branch?

There are a gazillion tourists in town so they must be getting cash somewhere.

FWIW, yes my card is being accepted everywhere for point of sale purchases.

Thanks. G.[/QUOTE]Just back from a trip in late Jan. Try these ATMs:

VP Bank - 50 k VND fee.

TP Bank - 30 k VND Fee.

OCB Bank - 20 k VND Fee.

My visa cards worked in all three above.

[QUOTE=Oopsboy;2984076]If you are in the country just for 3 days, and mongering is your main agenda, definitely Saigon.

If you want to visit Halong Bay etc, just take the quick flight out to Saigon for 1 day. Hanoi has options, but nothing as compared to Saigon.[/QUOTE]I appreciate the advice! It's definitely looking like HCMC is a strong candidate for my trip but I still got to ask the folks on the Singapore sub what its like over there. Again thanks for the input.

[QUOTE=Oopsboy;2984077]Just back from a trip in late Jan. Try these ATMs:

VP Bank - 50 k VND fee.

TP Bank - 30 k VND Fee.

OCB Bank - 20 k VND Fee.

My visa cards worked in all three above.[/QUOTE]I found that if it didn't have a Visa sign then you were out of luck. Mostly only gave a maximum 3000000 VND. (about 200 AUD). Lunar New Year meant most of the machines were empty anyway.

Hi guys,

Been to both cities last time I visited (which was 2019). Then it was clearly HCMC that had better offerings. Actually both on pricing and activities.

Is this still the case today?

Mainly also wanna try escorts to my hotel room. Is there a reliable site for those?

Planning my next trip.

There is a very wide spread of competence and reliability among dental professionals in Asia.

I happen to know the top dental doctors at HCMC's National Teeth, Jaws, Face Hospital in HCMC, the most prestigious in the country. These people are professors at their medical and dental schools, so their credentials and competence are assured. They train dentists and oral surgeons at this hospital.

They make peanut salaries from the government so they do private business in their own clinics on the side for their wives and kids. Their works are known for the best quality; rates for root canals, crowns, veneers, implants ect are much lower than any country Asia. They can do whole mouth implants with US or European anchors quickly at very low prices. Their schedules are flexible and service is good.

Any bro need dental work can make arrangement with them in advance, stay in District 1 or 3, have your dental work done in the day time, party and chase hot, young girls at night. Everything is cheaper and stricter in Vietnam. Savings in dental works likely pay for your trips and any extracurricular activities on location.

I can give you the tel # for the spouse of the top professor. You can text her and ask for details. She speaks English but Translate could help. Ask her for details and negotiate schedule, rates and terms. Take pics of your teeth and send them to her to get things going. They can send guys to pick you up at your hotel and bring you in for the procedures.

Will the escorts not visit you f. Eks in a district 5 hotel, when they are from district 10?

Or is it just the few pennies of taxi money you'd need to pay up?

Wondering where to stay.

GAITO will never go to your hotel in another district. They want you to come to their hotels where they have arrangements for security and kickbacks.

Once you know they girls and they like you, all kinds of arrangements are possible. They might stay a few days and tour the city with you. Sometimes you might even have problems asking them to leave.

In District 8, stay at hotels Micasa or Enjoy 6 B; Dis 10 hotels Friday Premium, Hoa Thuy Tien or Hoang Ha. Girls there all know those hotels and might come to you.

Dis 1 has many decent hotels on Pham Ngu Lao, Bui Vien, nice, fun, lively with girls, bars and food all night. Better to stay there and Uber to the girls.

[QUOTE=Tomster99;2986778]Will the escorts not visit you f. Eks in a district 5 hotel, when they are from district 10?

Or is it just the few pennies of taxi money you'd need to pay up?

Wondering where to stay.[/QUOTE]

GAITO will never go to your hotel in another district. They want you to come to their hotels where they have arrangements for security and kickbacks.

Once you know they girls and they like you, all kinds of arrangements are possible. They might stay a few days and tour the city with you. Sometimes you might even have problems asking them to leave.

In District 8, stay at hotels Micasa or Enjoy 6 B; Dis 10 hotels Friday Premium, Hoa Thuy Tien or Hoang Ha. Girls there all know those hotels and might come to you.

Dis 1 has many decent hotels on Pham Ngu Lao, Bui Vien, nice, fun, lively with girls, bars and food all night. Better to stay there and Uber to the girls.

[QUOTE=Tomster99;2986778]Will the escorts not visit you f. Eks in a district 5 hotel, when they are from district 10?

Or is it just the few pennies of taxi money you'd need to pay up?

Wondering where to stay.[/QUOTE]

Many thanks for your information.

Are there any districts that are dangerous to go or is it more or less safe? I read the rip-offs in District 1, but otherwise it seems fairly OK, right?

How is the STD-risk in HCMC? With all the BBBJ's I assume this to be quite an issue.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2986863]GAITO will never go to your hotel in another district. They want you to come to their hotels where they have arrangements for security and kickbacks.

Once you know they girls and they like you, all kinds of arrangements are possible. They might stay a few days and tour the city with you. Sometimes you might even have problems asking them to leave.

In District 8, stay at hotels Micasa or Enjoy 6 B; Dis 10 hotels Friday Premium, Hoa Thuy Tien or Hoang Ha. Girls there all know those hotels and might come to you.

Dis 1 has many decent hotels on Pham Ngu Lao, Bui Vien, nice, fun, lively with girls, bars and food all night. Better to stay there and Uber to the girls.[/QUOTE]

To clarify, some GAITOs state in their ads that they will do outcalls, usually in the same district. I had a spinner come to my hotel in Dis 1 for 1. 2 M or $50, turned out to be a nice, clean, pretty girl with GFE. Street girls on Bui Vien will go to your hotels for 1-1. 2 M, some are transexuals.

Dis 4 has been the ghetto for gangs for decades. The young ones may be deportees from the US, emulate Mexican gangs, all tatted up, cruise streets on their motorbikes and low rider jalopies. Avoid Dis 4, otherwise all other districts are benign. Even in crowded Dis 1, it's not a good idea to wander into dark alleys at night, even with friends. Drugs addicts are desperate and unpredictable. They may do hit and runs.

I have never done BBFS in Vietnam. They are very strict with condoms. HPVs are spread with or without condoms.

[QUOTE=Tomster99;2986993]Many thanks for your information.

Are there any districts that are dangerous to go or is it more or less safe? I read the rip-offs in District 1, but otherwise it seems fairly OK, right?

How is the STD-risk in HCMC? With all the BBBJ's I assume this to be quite an issue.[/QUOTE]

Thanks again for your insights well noted.

Concerning STD's, don't plan to have BBFS, just BJs without condom. So it's more about gonorrhea / chlamydia that can be transmitted anyway. I guess a HPV refresher vaccine might be a good idea yes if it's still wide-spread.

Do you know a good clinic for testing localy?

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2987008]To clarify, some GAITOs state in their ads that they will do outcalls, usually in the same district. I had a spinner come to my hotel in Dis 1 for 1. 2 M or $50, turned out to be a nice, clean, pretty girl with GFE. Street girls on Bui Vien will go to your hotels for 1-1. 2 M, some are transexuals.

Dis 4 has been the ghetto for gangs for decades. The young ones may be deportees from the US, emulate Mexican gangs, all tatted up, cruise streets on their motorbikes and low rider jalopies. Avoid Dis 4, otherwise all other districts are benign. Even in crowded Dis 1, it's not a good idea to wander into dark alleys at night, even with friends. Drugs addicts are desperate and unpredictable. They may do hit and runs.

I have never done BBFS in Vietnam. They are very strict with condoms. HPVs are spread with or without condoms.[/QUOTE]

There is government STD clinics in many locations, but will be crowded with prostitutes and drugs addicts.

Better to search for private clinics.

[QUOTE=Tomster99;2987085]Thanks again for your insights well noted.

Concerning STD's, don't plan to have BBFS, just BJs without condom. So it's more about gonorrhea / chlamydia that can be transmitted anyway. I guess a HPV refresher vaccine might be a good idea yes if it's still wide-spread.

Do you know a good clinic for testing localy?[/QUOTE]

I have never read or heard that gonorrhea / chlamydia can be transmitted by mouths via BBBJ, unless the girls' mouths have oozing open sores and your dick have open wound.

[QUOTE=Tomster99;2987085]Thanks again for your insights well noted.

Concerning STD's, don't plan to have BBFS, just BJs without condom. So it's more about gonorrhea / chlamydia that can be transmitted anyway. I guess a HPV refresher vaccine might be a good idea yes if it's still wide-spread.

Do you know a good clinic for testing localy?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2987184]I have never read or heard that gonorrhea / chlamydia can be transmitted by mouths via BBBJ, unless the girls' mouths have oozing open sores and your dick have open wound.[/QUOTE]Well, only small wound in her mouth can be enough afaik. HPV probably 80-90% of the western civilisation is said to have this. Me in my 40's probably too.

Hepatitis A & be we were probably all vaccinated some 20 years ago and that should make you safe apparently for the rest of our lives.

So fingers crossed. Or what do you suggest.

I should have researched more beforehand before finding its just drink hustle culture at all these bars in Vietnam. This trip sucks. The girls don't go out to motels rooms at all. At least that was a possibility in Cambodia. What are you guys methods, cause I'm about to alter my trip to Thailand instead. Maybe some vets can chime in. Was it always like this??

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2987184]I have never read or heard that gonorrhea / chlamydia can be transmitted by mouths via BBBJ, unless the girls' mouths have oozing open sores and your dick have open wound.[/QUOTE]Both gonorrhea and chlamydia can be transmitted during oral sex.

[QUOTE=MongerWS;2987593]I should have researched more beforehand before finding its just drink hustle culture at all these bars in Vietnam. This trip sucks. The girls don't go out to motels rooms at all. At least that was a possibility in Cambodia. What are you guys methods, cause I'm about to alter my trip to Thailand instead. Maybe some vets can chime in. Was it always like this??[/QUOTE]Go to Linh Cherry Massage in Little Tokyo.

[QUOTE=NRandom940;2987793]Go to Linh Cherry Massage in Little Tokyo.[/QUOTE]When I last was in HCMC I was always just offered BBBJ, but no FS in particular in massage places around the city.

I take it, that this isn't always right.

What other massage+ places can anyone recommend throughout the city?

AND:
There's no brothel-style operation with a decent girls line up still, right? Only the usual Gaigo-Hotelrooms. ?

Any one offering some fun mongering tours maybe around the city?

[QUOTE=NRandom940;2987793]Go to Linh Cherry Massage in Little Tokyo.[/QUOTE]Been there. Over priced IMO.

Old, flabby, crude farm women.

I would not let them touch my dick even if they pay me big bucks.

[QUOTE=Rolledup;2990126]Been there. Over priced IMO.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MongerWS;2987593]I should have researched more beforehand before finding its just drink hustle culture at all these bars in Vietnam. This trip sucks. The girls don't go out to motels rooms at all. At least that was a possibility in Cambodia. What are you guys methods, cause I'm about to alter my trip to Thailand instead. Maybe some vets can chime in. Was it always like this??[/QUOTE]That's why best stick to Thailand. The known quantity is always better. It's the same everywhere, like why try your luck in Poland when you know the Czech Republic has reliable hobbying options. I've read about all kinds of experiences in Vietnam, kinda all over the place, but with Thailand, you know what you're getting. At this point in my life, I'd do anything to get back to Bangkok again.

At the airport the grab pick up is a bit confusing, it says go to D1, but there are a few D1's, like exits D1-10, traffic lanes A-the, parking A-Z. The one you need is actually D1 inside the parking structure, be there when you order, because the driver may be already there, and cannot wait, is pick up only.

By the way Grab to Pasteur street was 100 K, the taxis were asking 300 K. (3 X).

Air con buses run every 10 minutes right outside arrival, cost about $1 drop off along the way, end at the bus depot on Pham Ngu Lao next yo Bui Vien walking street.

Traffic is heavy so they run as fast as any car or limousine. You will have a scenic ride and get to know how locals live.

I always take the bus from and to SGN.

Hey Guys,

I am planning with my friends a trip to Ho Chi Minh later in the year. We would like to get some girls come over for longer durations like overnight or whole day. The idea then is to have feck a few times and also go around the town a bit. Like for site seeing, dinner, drinks etc.

Does anyone know what are the best websites to book some good girls for this? I have used escort news and euro girls before, but that has been in Europe and generally been satisfied. What are the suggested resources for Ho Chi Minh? Is it only Gaito?

Hello all short notice.

Headed to Vietnam tomorrow 3/24.

Looking for a few recommendations mongering.

Friendly decent location decently priced hotel for a couple days.

Thanks in advance.

Anyone know if these are easily available at any pharmacy?

Recipe needed?

Check out hotel A25 at 175 Pham Ngu Lao about $25, next to the big park, 1 block North of Bui Vien walking street which is noisy all night.

It's nice, clean, comfortable, good large screen TV with international streaming.

A25 is a chain with many locations. Girls use them for St dates, some live in those hotels. Reception never seem to care which girls you bring in.

Hey guys.

I just came from Thailand and wanted to see what's available. But I don't know where to look. What's the best way to find free lancers? It was easy in Thailand with the Thaifriendly app but don't know what to use here.

I can't use tinder sadly.

Please help.

[QUOTE=Tomster99;2992029]Anyone know if these are easily available at any pharmacy?

Recipe needed?[/QUOTE]Readily available and easy to ask for. Just go into any official-looking pharmacy and ask for it, or if just show them the name / photo of Cialis on your smartphone (most speak good enough english, at least on pharmaceuticals). BTW, all the pharmacy workers are women and they won't bat an eye when you ask. It wasn't as super cheap as I was expecting (not like Brazil or the Phils), and I think there are reports of cheaper sources, but there are also concerns about poor quality and counterfeit product, so I felt more comfortable in the reputable looking pharmacies.

[QUOTE=CarloRogue;2993090]Readily available and easy to ask for. Just go into any official-looking pharmacy and ask for it, or if just show them the name / photo of Cialis on your smartphone (most speak good enough english, at least on pharmaceuticals). BTW, all the pharmacy workers are women and they won't bat an eye when you ask. It wasn't as super cheap as I was expecting (not like Brazil or the Phils), and I think there are reports of cheaper sources, but there are also concerns about poor quality and counterfeit product, so I felt more comfortable in the reputable looking pharmacies.[/QUOTE]Super helpful, thanks buddy.

[QUOTE=Rewsna;2980785]My job is to prep sexcations for my clients, and our trips to Vietnam is 30:1, HCMC is far better with much better options and girls.

DM me if you need some advice or girls numbers.[/QUOTE]How can I dm you?

[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2981006]I am using the same profile I had in Thailand. I am not saying that in Thailand I had incredible results on Tinder (I did not use Badoo), but I was able to match and meet a number or girls, even though the most I have known were from ThaiFriendly.

Hi, can i ask you what area did you stay in Bkk?
Im glad Thaifriendly worked out for you.
Did you invite them for coffee before taking them
Up?

VN is way different than TH


Indeed here is a desert, very few matches, and with the least attractive ones, which on a second look I unmatch, because I do not think they are worth the effort. The only one who really wanted to meet me was a girl from the Philippines, who is teaching English in Saigon. She is overweight and not that attractive, and when she realised I was not into her, she unmatched me.

I guess girls here really do not like me. I mean, I would have more chances to get laid in London, than I have here.

I asked the number of a girl who works in a grocery shop, she was enthusiast, she even installed WhatsApp because I have only data on the phone. She was smiling at me a lot. But when I invited her out for a date, she told me she is always busy. So I asked her why she gave me the number, and she said she only wanted to have a friend.

I had a lot of fun in Thailand, gave me a lot of confidence, I got here and my confidence has been destroyed.

I think I will approach more girls in person, and let's see how it goes. I am tired to swipe left and right.[/QUOTE]Hi, can I ask you what area did you stay in Bkk?

I'm glad Thaifriendly worked out for you.

Did you invite them for coffee before taking them.

Up?

VN is way different than TH.

[QUOTE=Rewsna;2980785]My job is to prep sexcations for my clients, and our trips to Vietnam is 30:1, HCMC is far better with much better options and girls.

DM me if you need some advice or girls numbers.[/QUOTE]I messaged you, but no reply.

After 10 pm you can find some cute freelancers in front of the K5 cafe on Nguyen Hue, and close by in front of Sir the Taylor on Mac Thi Buoi. Watch out for LBs, I didn't see any when there but you'll never know.

I am planning for 12 HR layover in HCM while travelling from Sydney to Bangalore.

Any suggestions on scoring decent girls near by airport? Heard that love hotels are good for quickie, I am trying to see reliable way of getting a girl without KLPD.

If girls are available for rent for a 12 hrs to accompany and service, that is even better.

Any advice on east Asian looking women? Where to find them? Or freelancers?

I was devastated to learn, during an internet search, that Dustin Q, died back in 2024. I met him many times in HCMC and was my best friend in Saigon. He showed me so much of the city and the experiences I had alongside of him AI will truly cherish. The Alabama boy with spiky hair on top was always a memorable person and friend.

It will be hard to return to HCMC knowing that you won't be there bro.

RIP.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2987184]I have never read or heard that gonorrhea / chlamydia can be transmitted by mouths via BBBJ, unless the girls' mouths have oozing open sores and your dick have open wound.[/QUOTE]Both Gonorrhoea and chlamydia are quite easily spread via oral sex (sans condom). This is true for both males and females. HSV and HPV can also be readily contracted through oral sex. Her mouth and / or your dick do not have to have "oozing sores and open wounds" In fact most people are asymptomatic. Albeit the risk is smaller than vaginal sex, it's still quite common.

Stirling.

[QUOTE=Sharath;2997793]I am planning for 12 HR layover in HCM while travelling from Sydney to Bangalore.

Any suggestions on scoring decent girls near by airport? Heard that love hotels are good for quickie, I am trying to see reliable way of getting a girl without KLPD.

If girls are available for rent for a 12 hrs to accompany and service, that is even better.[/QUOTE]Go to a spa, they have the girls and the rooms, problem solved. Other wise make arrangements on line prior to arrival, but it maybe a noshow (most likely).

[QUOTE=Sharath;2997793]I am planning for 12 HR layover in HCM while travelling from Sydney to Bangalore.

Any suggestions on scoring decent girls near by airport? Heard that love hotels are good for quickie, I am trying to see reliable way of getting a girl without KLPD.

If girls are available for rent for a 12 hrs to accompany and service, that is even better.[/QUOTE]Hotel is crap but the spa on 4th floor has everything you'd want. Vietnam is not for service tbh. But the girls are smoking hot. Almost no DFK, GFE and everything with condom including oral. Also most of them have an amazon jungle down there. If I was you, get a day use room to store bags and then head to Muong Thanh and / or to Cherry Linh in District 1. But again the service thing depends on mutual chemistry. HCMC needs time, girls are more conservative compared to other SEA countries. But there's plenty to potential sugar babies to be had. Which is a time consuming sport, more so in here given the language barrier, girls don't speak much English.

Anyone living in Saigon that would like to go out to some beer bars, the ones where the waitresses are beer company representatives? It was so much fun to go with Dustin and his friends. Drinking beer was an Olympic sport when we went out. It's not the kind of thing that one can do alone.

If anyone is interested in going to some beer bars when I'm in Saigon in August, please send me a message.

Dan.

Beer and alcohol distributors hired some of the prettiest young girls to push their products at big restaurants and busy bars. Hit on them and you may get lucky.

Call up distributors of foreign brands like Heineken, Tiger, Foster, Remy Martin, Martell ect. Ask them where they send these girls. Or check busy bars on Hai Ba Trung and LE Thanh Ton.

[QUOTE=Mexidan;3017498]Anyone living in Saigon that would like to go out to some beer bars, the ones where the waitresses are beer company representatives? It was so much fun to go with Dustin and his friends. Drinking beer was an Olympic sport when we went out. It's not the kind of thing that one can do alone.

If anyone is interested in going to some beer bars when I'm in Saigon in August, please send me a message.

Dan.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;3019307]Beer and alcohol distributors hired some of the prettiest young girls to push their products at big restaurants and busy bars. Hit on them and you may get lucky.

Call up distributors of foreign brands like Heineken, Tiger, Foster, Remy Martin, Martell ect. Ask them where they send these girls. Or check busy bars on Hai Ba Trung and LE Thanh Ton.[/QUOTE]Very true CPT! That's why I need a wingman. As you know, drinking beer at beer bars is an Olympic event in Saigon and you really can't do it alone, especially since the beer girl rep will have beers open at several tables at the same time and shifts between them every few minutes.

I'll be there in a couple weeks. Interested in a beer?

[QUOTE=Mexidan;3019513]Very true CPT! That's why I need a wingman. As you know, drinking beer at beer bars is an Olympic event in Saigon and you really can't do it alone, especially since the beer girl rep will have beers open at several tables at the same time and shifts between them every few minutes.

I'll be there in a couple weeks. Interested in a beer?[/QUOTE]I do sexcation tours around the world, and I send plenty of clients to Saigon. I think some would be interested in hanging out and having a beer. PM me if interested.

Will be visiting HCMC very soon. I'd like to know where the locations are and your experience. I'm from Vegas so if there's anything you'd like to know about the scene there feel free to hit me up.

Hi, I have RTFF extensively, saw all about bars (seems like a scam) and massage places (good but not always FS). Now if I look on social media I see a lot of videos of HCMC streets with pretty girls who seem to me very much like freelancers but see no mention of that in this revered forum. Are they just pretty girls going around with no interest for paid fun or is it a bit like in some areas of BKK where you get these girls on the street or in bar areas and you can negotiate directly? Thanks to those who know and would help me out. Going there in January and looking to make good use of my time.

How's the pricing at Muong Thanh? Is it better near the airport here or district 1?

[QUOTE=EdAdams;3013115]Hotel is crap but the spa on 4th floor has everything you'd want. Vietnam is not for service tbh. But the girls are smoking hot. Almost no DFK, GFE and everything with condom including oral. Also most of them have an amazon jungle down there. If I was you, get a day use room to store bags and then head to Muong Thanh and / or to Cherry Linh in District 1. But again the service thing depends on mutual chemistry. HCMC needs time, girls are more conservative compared to other SEA countries. But there's plenty to potential sugar babies to be had. Which is a time consuming sport, more so in here given the language barrier, girls don't speak much English.[/QUOTE]

Hi all From my RTFF I think the answer to my question is no, but I want to double check please.

I'm going to Thailand next month and I want to take a 3 day sidetrip somewhere. I'm torn between PP and HCMC. There is a particular look in some vietnamese women that I'm really attracted to so, from that perspective, HCMC would be my preference. However, I'm not a spa type of guy, so places like LC are not really my thing. Also, I'm not sure I will be navigating Gaito on this trip.

What I'd ideally like is a few bars similar to the beer bar setup in Thailand. I. e. , you meet and drink with ladies and have the option to take the lady out of the bar if you want to spend more time with them. From what I've read, I don't think anything like that really exists in HCMC. Am I right?

I know there are bars, and you can informally arrange with a lady to meet her out of hours, but I was hoping for a specific setup where barfining is on the table from the get go. Please correct me if I'm wrong! Thanks.

[QUOTE=FlagRunner77;3031045]Hi all From my RTFF I think the answer to my question is no, but I want to double check please.

I'm going to Thailand next month and I want to take a 3 day sidetrip somewhere. I'm torn between PP and HCMC. There is a particular look in some vietnamese women that I'm really attracted to so, from that perspective, HCMC would be my preference. However, I'm not a spa type of guy, so places like LC are not really my thing. Also, I'm not sure I will be navigating Gaito on this trip.

What I'd ideally like is a few bars similar to the beer bar setup in Thailand. I. e. , you meet and drink with ladies and have the option to take the lady out of the bar if you want to spend more time with them. From what I've read, I don't think anything like that really exists in HCMC. Am I right?

I know there are bars, and you can informally arrange with a lady to meet her out of hours, but I was hoping for a specific setup where bar-fining is on the table from the get go. Please correct me if I'm wrong! Thanks.[/QUOTE]Just back from HCM and there is nowhere like what you are looking for. There are masses of bars with ladies that will more than happily sit and chat to you and bleed you dry of cash, but they are not going to be emptying anything else. All bars have the same MO, pull you in, sit you down, and want you to buy numerous lady's drinks. They may hold your hand, but you most likely are not getting any further.

If Vietnamese ladies are your thing, and you want to sit and drink with them and not have to worry about paying a bar fine, go to KL and Changkat Bukit Bintang will fill your boots. But be prepared, there are only a few good looking ones in amongst the masses.

Plus you will then also miss the 2 hour immigration queue in Saigon Airport. Unless you pay 40 USD for VIP service (well worth it).

[QUOTE=IrishMongrel;3031067]Just back from HCM and there is nowhere like what you are looking for. There are masses of bars with ladies that will more than happily sit and chat to you and bleed you dry of cash, but they are not going to be emptying anything else. All bars have the same MO, pull you in, sit you down, and want you to buy numerous lady's drinks. They may hold your hand, but you most likely are not getting any further.

If Vietnamese ladies are your thing, and you want to sit and drink with them and not have to worry about paying a bar fine, go to KL and Changkat Bukit Bintang will fill your boots. But be prepared, there are only a few good looking ones in amongst the masses.

Plus you will then also miss the 2 hour immigration queue in Saigon Airport. Unless you pay 40 USD for VIP service (well worth it).[/QUOTE]Thank you for clarifying. Looks like I'll be heading to PP this time.

Unless you're doing online stuff which you said you won't HCM isn't for a short visit. However, if you have game and some looks you can date these bar girls that are unattainable to the majority (re 98.5%) of their bar customers. That is not going to be accomplished in 3 days unless you look like a kpop model. There are the massage joints in HCM I won't repeat the ones everyone goes to. Also a bunch of massage places in hotels in District 5 (Chinatown).

HCM is worth the effort if you have time, some looks, and game. The girl basically has to fall for you. There is a huge difference in looks between HCM vs PHN bar girls imo.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;3031095]However, if you have game and some looks [/QUOTE]Yeah, I'm screwed LOL.

For those that may be on the look out for Generic Cialis. Managed to buy this in the small pharmacy beside Ben Thanh market - 90,000 VND for a packet of 2.

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[QUOTE=IrishMongrel;3031890]For those that may be on the look out for Generic Cialis. Managed to buy this in the small pharmacy beside Ben Thanh market - 90,000 VND for a packet of 2.

[URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/9cP9HExLBLEMjyiY9[/URL][/QUOTE]So gave these things a bit of a trial run and found them pretty useless. I use Cialis to help me last longer and have more fun with the younger ladies I chase after. I usually cut a 20 MG tab into 3 and that is more than enough for 5 days of fun.

Split one of these generic pills in two and had it zero impact. I normally get a bit of a initial flush as the brand Cialis gets into the system and starts to kick in. Went for 20 MG the next time, got a bit of a flush after an hour, a crap headache and one hell of a dry mouth in the morning. Think I'll stick to brand name Cialis, may be a lot more expensive, but I'd say a lot more active ingredient in it.

[QUOTE=IrishMongrel;3031890]For those that may be on the look out for Generic Cialis. Managed to buy this in the small pharmacy beside Ben Thanh market - 90,000 VND for a packet of 2.

[URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/9cP9HExLBLEMjyiY9[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks for the information.

Hey lads!

Is it really that bad in Vietnam?

I am looking for a destination for my next moger trip. But there is not much info about Vietnam.

I will be looking for pros girls, do you have any references for websites with trusted ads?

I'd like to go, but I want a sure thing and I know Vietnam doesn't have Gogo bars and beer bars where you can bar fine girls like Thailand.

Does Vietnam have freelancers that work in bars or clubs that are actually Vietnamese? Where would I go?

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2987184]I have never read or heard that gonorrhea / chlamydia can be transmitted by mouths via BBBJ, unless the girls' mouths have oozing open sores and your dick have open wound.[/QUOTE]As an infectious diseases doc, I can guarantee you that both gonorrhoea and chlamydia can be transmitted via oral sex. Oropharyngeal infections are not as uncommon as you might think. Many of them are asymptomatic, but you can still pass them on.

Stirling.

Hello fellow brethren.

I met a Viet girl in Singapore and I loved her looks and we had fun. Since then, I was planning to visit Vietnam for sexcation. And since I am from India, my looks are quite below average and not desirable for the women over here. I did lot of research online and tried many dating websites including Vietnam Cupid, Tinder etc with not much luck. SugardaddyMeet and AsianMatchmate are not possible for me as they are having trouble processing my credit cards issued in India. And after advise from few blogs, I even tried cam sites and lots of tips later, got contact from a couple of girls who said okay to meet and be my guide during my visit. One of them was not so good looking but she wants a serious commitment and the other is hot but always asks for more and more tips even without video chat. I am sure she will be a no show once I reach Vietnam (I mean not sure but most probably this will happen). Well, since I want to make an international mongering weekend trip and now I am seriously considering cancelling the plans to Vietnam, should I make plans to Philippines? Or any kind soul throw me a guiding light and help a bro who is lost?

[QUOTE=EagerGuy;3042110]Hello fellow brethren.

I met a Viet girl in Singapore and I loved her looks and we had fun. Since then, I was planning to visit Vietnam for sexcation. And since I am from India, my looks are quite below average and not desirable for the women over here. I did lot of research online and tried many dating websites including Vietnam Cupid, Tinder etc with not much luck. SugardaddyMeet and AsianMatchmate are not possible for me as they are having trouble processing my credit cards issued in India. And after advise from few blogs, I even tried cam sites and lots of tips later, got contact from a couple of girls who said okay to meet and be my guide during my visit. One of them was not so good looking but she wants a serious commitment and the other is hot but always asks for more and more tips even without video chat. I am sure she will be a no show once I reach Vietnam (I mean not sure but most probably this will happen). Well, since I want to make an international mongering weekend trip and now I am seriously considering cancelling the plans to Vietnam, should I make plans to Philippines? Or any kind soul throw me a guiding light and help a bro who is lost?[/QUOTE]Saigon should not be avoided, however the PI is a better choice for P4P in case you've not yet been there. But following Siddhartha's advice, you should go your own way.

[QUOTE=Stirling;3041048] .. both gonorrhoea and chlamydia can be transmitted via oral sex. Oropharyngeal infections are not as uncommon as you might think ...

Stirling.[/QUOTE]Hey Doc Stirling.

Got any probability data on transmission rates? Specifically male rates of infection due to female blowjob. I've seen numerical data once, but I can't find it again.

Difficult for me to evaluate risk using cost data alone.

Thanks in advance.

Fargler.

Commercial sex in Vietnam is illegal and frequently prosecuted, especially for foreigners. The underground on-line venues are frequently busted, difficult to navigate and negotiate. So, yes, HCMC should be avoided for short mongering trips.

OTOH lots of Viet girls work in the streets, bars and brothels in Geylang in Singapore, on Sukhumvit and Soi 4 in Bangkok, PhnomPenh and Siem Reap. Their rates are $30-40. Bigger, better, easier selection, may be even cheaper than on line deals in Vietnam.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;3042750]Commercial sex in Vietnam is illegal and frequently prosecuted, especially for foreigners. The underground on-line venues are frequently busted, difficult to navigate and negotiate. So, yes, HCMC should be avoided for short mongering trips.

OTOH lots of Viet girls work in the streets, bars and brothels in Geylang in Singapore, on Sukhumvit and Soi 4 in Bangkok, PhnomPenh and Siem Reap. Their rates are $30-40. Bigger, better, easier selection, may be even cheaper than on line deals in Vietnam.[/QUOTE]Well, every trip starts with a short trip. In fact no one in clear mind won't venture a long stay without figuring it out if the destinations works for him. So, where exactly in Saigon. Exactly is the purpose of the question. A foreigner can get laid? Let's put a $150 cap on any engagement, and let's exclude blow jobs at barber shops. Any exact practical advise on 'gai goi' online is appreciated as well.