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Sorry to put this forum into this position. I didn't intend for any political discussion here.

But, honestly, I prefer Senior Mongerer88's way of being direct and honest about how things around here.

The whole purpose of asking the question was to learn and understand how I can stay out of trouble and how can I enjoy the most given my limitations and my reality.

Even if the advice is an exaggeration, it still keeps me safe.

Not all the people have messaged have been biased.

Some were kind enough to say it upfront that they are not interested.

But, one of them was so offended that they actually added this to their profile next day -.

[QUOTE]No B***k Men[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2632019]Jalimon,

I've followed your posts on other forums. Your political perspective of the United States is framed too much by American news media (CNN perhaps? You have to realize our news media is highly biased and partisan. Liberal media outlets play up the race card and convince minority voters that they are treated poorly. Most Asian-Americans and Hispanic-Americans do not see the United States this way. (African-Americans are totally in line with the Democrats.) However, if you watch CNN or whatever you will not get an accurate depiction of life in the United States.

As a side note, I've worked with many Asian immigrants in the corporate world. Many will say they had a choice to immigrate to the United States or Canada. They opted for the United States. How bad can it be here for Asians?

Separately, I wanted to raise a style point that I have raised in the past. First, I don't think it's fair to come here and start encouraging others to go to other boards. Second, the board in question is infested with shills and overly-impacted by moderator and advertiser influence.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GreenRabit;2632152]Sorry to put this forum into this position. I didn't intend for any political discussion here.

But, honestly, I prefer Senior Mongerer88's way of being direct and honest about how things around here.

The whole purpose of asking the question was to learn and understand how I can stay out of trouble and how can I enjoy the most given my limitations and my reality.

Even if the advice is an exaggeration, it still keeps me safe.

Not all the people have messaged have been biased.

Some were kind enough to say it upfront that they are not interested.

But, one of them was so offended that they actually added this to their profile next day.[/QUOTE]That does us all a favor. Many of us become black when we see that shit, and we cross that provider right off the list.

Same with providers who have too young, or too old, restrictions.

They can do as they please, of course. And so can we.

[QUOTE=GreenRabit;2632152]Sorry to put this forum into this position. I didn't intend for any political discussion here.

But, honestly, I prefer Senior Mongerer88's way of being direct and honest about how things around here.

The whole purpose of asking the question was to learn and understand how I can stay out of trouble and how can I enjoy the most given my limitations and my reality.

Even if the advice is an exaggeration, it still keeps me safe.

Not all the people have messaged have been biased.

Some were kind enough to say it upfront that they are not interested.

But, one of them was so offended that they actually added this to their profile next day.[/QUOTE]Fair enough. You are probably better off being upfront with the providers.

There have been extensive discussions all over ISG and other forums about whether it's fair for escorts to be selective (yes, discriminate) in who they will see. I won't revisit those discussions. However, I would hope that if an escort agrees to meet up with you that she will treat you the same as anyone else.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2632153]That does us all a favor. Many of us become black when we see that shit, and we cross that provider right off the list.

Same with providers who have too young, or too old, restrictions.

They can do as they please, of course. And so can we.[/QUOTE]Of course their reactions may have been fashioned by previous experiences. So who knows?

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2629880]In person at the beginning of the session.

There are some ridiculous people on ISG, mostly from the third world, who think the payment should be at the end of the session.

That doesn't go over well in North America.[/QUOTE]Not sure why you you mention it doesn't go well in North America. I've always paid at the end, In North America and outside as well, and no problem at all. It's more about your demeanor and how you behave that dictates the session, not when you pay. In Montreal I have not paid up front either, and have had great sessions. Paying upfront makes the whole experience even more transactional for me, yes I know it is a transaction after all, but let me at least enjoy for the 50 min the idea that this is not the case. Just my 2 cents, that there is no right or wrong way here, you pick your own.

[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2632652]Not sure why you you mention it doesn't go well in North America. I've always paid at the end, In North America and outside as well, and no problem at all. It's more about your demeanor and how you behave that dictates the session, not when you pay. In Montreal I have not paid up front either, and have had great sessions. Paying upfront makes the whole experience even more transactional for me, yes I know it is a transaction after all, but let me at least enjoy for the 50 min the idea that this is not the case. Just my 2 cents, that there is no right or wrong way here, you pick your own.[/QUOTE]I put an envelope with the money in it in plain sight at the beginning.

That is the standard for escorts in North America.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2632780]I put an envelope with the money in it in plain sight at the beginning.

That is the standard for escorts in North America.[/QUOTE]Yes, we are all usually dealing with known escorts and agencies who have established reputations for service.

Picking up a girl at a bar or club in a third world country is a totally different proposition.

Hey Montreal I saw a former escort with a website advertise 1400 for 4 hours. I'd like to say that in Montreal from personal experience you can get from an escort that is your friend for 1000 an entire week together. Spending time together and having fun, not sex marathon. Duh!

Someone paying 1400 for 4 hours probably doesn't understand European and north American economies.

[QUOTE=Android2987;2633361]Hey Montreal I saw a former escort with a website advertise 1400 for 4 hours. I'd like to say that in Montreal from personal experience you can get from an escort that is your friend for 1000 an entire week together. Spending time together and having fun, not sex marathon. Duh!

Someone paying 1400 for 4 hours probably doesn't understand European and north American economies.[/QUOTE]Most escorts are not your friend LOL, it is a business and work for them and they expect to get paid for it.

$1400 for 4 hours is about the going rate for reputable escorts these days, and most will expect a paid dinner or lunch on top of that for 4 hrs.

Personally I don't do payed for dinners or lunches simply because I don't believe in paying someone to be my friend, if a woman sits across the dinner table from me then it will be because she wants to be there.

Sex, yes I am realistic, when you want a gorgeous woman half your age the easiest and surest way is to hire an escort.

Dinner, sorry I have a enough friends and relatives that I can enjoy a night out with I don't find anything that exiting about paying an escort to eat food and having a conversation which is not real with someone who's real name I don't even know. It is not about the money it just doesn't make sense to me.

[QUOTE=Android2987;2633361]Hey Montreal I saw a former escort with a website advertise 1400 for 4 hours. I'd like to say that in Montreal from personal experience you can get from an escort that is your friend for 1000 an entire week together. Spending time together and having fun, not sex marathon. Duh!

Someone paying 1400 for 4 hours probably doesn't understand European and north American economies.[/QUOTE]Some guys are into that. Often it's because they have money coming out of their ears. I know some that book a girl the entire day simply to make sure to see them.

To be honest never heard of a girl accepting 1000 for an entire week.

This is how it works:

There is a specific type of customer that keeps going back to the same girl. So basically The girl and customer have a mutually exclusive relationship. So at 1st they have a business relationship. In the beginning most girls don't even want to talk (more than is considered normal) to the customer. Then after a lot of appointments there's more talk. After talking a lot of hours they also begin to spend more time together. And slowly they also create a friendship business relationship which is like a real friendship with gifts involved. It's more than just sex.

Usually this type of customer is the one that will give the girl the most money per month. So Once you start giving the girl lumps of money the money inevitably is worth more.

So if it's the right type of customer and right Type of girl. The girl will mention that she does sleepovers weekends entire weeks and also live in for a month. But she will not make these offers on the 1st date. It's only after the business friendship relationship has evolved.

Also the customer makes it easy for the girl to earn rewards. A lot of escorts are sore in the kitten from so much sex so obviously they don't want penetration sex to go on forever. So yeah sex friendship trust money spending time together and doing fun things like eating Getting high etc.

Also I've been told these customers are very rare and each girl may have less than 5.

Since these customers Pay the most and they are trustworthy they actually get more for their money's worth. And these customers always go back to the same girl. They will never know more than 2 or 3 escorts.

Also the customer needs to be considerate and good at building friendship. A lot of people today can't even get along with their sister or their coworkers. And relationship and communication skills are not taught nor are manners.

1 of these customers can get an evening for 400 or 500 Or 350 and that usually includes 2 or 3 hours. But also consider they do this 2 or 3 times a month. So the money goes further. And most of the time is not spent having sex.

Personally I recommend you not pay excessive rates for multiple hours another way to save money is just to book her out call for one hour. The hour before she Arrives to your house house start masturbating to some good porn then the next hour you spend it with her instead of with the porn. So you get one hour with porn and one hour with the girl and you only pay one out call hour.

See no need to break your bank account. LOL.

[QUOTE=Hacsek;2633669]Most escorts are not your friend LOL, it is a business and work for them and they expect to get paid for it.[/QUOTE]That's what I trying to say. Some escorts are also friends with their clients. It's kind of like a sugar baby escort. The client and the escort have sex, friendship, and business relationship.

Like one girl in my apartment in Montreal stayed all night drinking and then went home the next day because she didn't want to drive her car with beer. She only took the money for one hour. There was no sex. We had been good friends for months before this happened.

I know some of you see prices on the website and you think they are written in stone and you lose your flexibility to consider other ideas.

But just think about it if you go out for four hours with a sugar baby do you really think you're going to pay her 1500 cad? Man that must be one lousy date. If she takes so much from you just for four hours.

When you become friends with the escort you will uncover completely different pricing. She will give you these rates herself. Each escort usually has two or three clients that are also her friends.

A lot of men don't even have friends. And can't hold an hour-long conversation with an escort.

Sex is actually more fun when the woman is your friend.

[QUOTE=Hacsek;2633669]Most escorts are not your friend LOL, it is a business and work for them and they expect to get paid for it.

$1400 for 4 hours is about the going rate for reputable escorts these days, and most will expect a paid dinner or lunch on top of that for 4 hrs.

Personally I don't do payed for dinners or lunches simply because I don't believe in paying someone to be my friend, if a woman sits across the dinner table from me then it will be because she wants to be there.

Sex, yes I am realistic, when you want a gorgeous woman half your age the easiest and surest way is to hire an escort.

Dinner, sorry I have a enough friends and relatives that I can enjoy a night out with I don't find anything that exiting about paying an escort to eat food and having a conversation which is not real with someone who's real name I don't even know. It is not about the money it just doesn't make sense to me.[/QUOTE]In my home country I have lunch and dinner only with relatives, family and friends. However, I like company when I'm having a meal so when I am in a country where I have none of the above I sometimes invite a lady who I am banging or intend to bang to dine with me. Nothing expensive of course. We are all different in our likes and dislikes.

That's $350/ HR or $280/ HR USD. At the top end of Indy rates in MTL. Care to say who it was? I did a 4 hour date like that with Heaven but just paid Euphoria's rate, so it was a bit under grand. But still that is a quarter of what I would pay in the states. The only Indy I might consider doing that with is Katrina Vianna. Definitely in on my list when I get back.

[QUOTE=Android2987;2633361]Hey Montreal I saw a former escort with a website advertise 1400 for 4 hours. I'd like to say that in Montreal from personal experience you can get from an escort that is your friend for 1000 an entire week together. Spending time together and having fun, not sex marathon. Duh!

Someone paying 1400 for 4 hours probably doesn't understand European and north American economies.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Android2987;2633944]That's what I trying to say. Some escorts are also friends with their clients. It's kind of like a sugar baby escort. The client and the escort have sex, friendship, and business relationship.

Like one girl in my apartment in Montreal stayed all night drinking and then went home the next day because she didn't want to drive her car with beer. She only took the money for one hour. There was no sex. We had been good friends for months before this happened.

I know some of you see prices on the website and you think they are written in stone and you lose your flexibility to consider other ideas.

But just think about it if you go out for four hours with a sugar baby do you really think you're going to pay her 1500 cad? Man that must be one lousy date. If she takes so much from you just for four hours.

When you become friends with the escort you will uncover completely different pricing. She will give you these rates herself. Each escort usually has two or three clients that are also her friends.

A lot of men don't even have friends. And can't hold an hour-long conversation with an escort.

Sex is actually more fun when the woman is your friend.[/QUOTE]All of what you say is true.

None of that however happens on a first visit to a new country / city.

Pretty lady was fiction and a movie LOL.

It takes a long process and chemistry plus a lot of trust on both sides to have a relationship like that and a willingness on both sides.

Situations like that are rare and like you say maybe each SP might have a couple of favoured clients that they may extend this to, but generally they are in it to make money not to be your friend with benefits.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2633962]In my home country I have lunch and dinner only with relatives, family and friends. However, I like company when I'm having a meal so when I am in a country where I have none of the above I sometimes invite a lady who I am banging or intend to bang to dine with me. Nothing expensive of course. We are all different in our likes and dislikes.[/QUOTE]I think a lot of you are dreaming or chest thumping.

Escorts are in it for the money not to be your friend with benefits.

A person who visits Montreal occasionally and thinks he can just invite a lady to lunch or dinner "nothing expensive" and off the clock is laughable.

This may happen after a period of time with an ATF that has learned to trust you and wants to keep the relationship.

Most escorts that are exceptional and worth seeing have high expectations and will not see you in a 1-3 star hotel or go have dinner with you in a cheap restaurant.

They expect to be treated with class and will not settle for what you describe.

This is not your home country this is Montreal, we have super nice escorts, which are still a bargain compared to the US but they don't come cheap and expect to be treated well. Most of these ladies have an established clientele and don't need to see just anybody.

You want the best then you get what you pay for.

[QUOTE=HarvestBoi;2633985]That's $350/ HR or $280/ HR USD. At the top end of Indy rates in MTL. Care to say who it was? I did a 4 hour date like that with Heaven but just paid Euphoria's rate, so it was a bit under grand. But still that is a quarter of what I would pay in the states. The only Indy I might consider doing that with is Katrina Vianna. Definitely in on my list when I get back..[/QUOTE]Actually Indy rates have risen substantially since the pandemic and $350 is very average, check Indy Companions and you will find that they range from $350-$500 with $400 being about average.

Reputable agencies range from $220-$260 with $240 being the average.

Katrina Vianna is a fabulous young lady you made a great choice I would highly recommend her.

Gorgeous and just an absolute pleasure to spend time with.

Heaven briefly made a comeback and is a very well reviewed lady, but if anybody thinks they will get someone like Heaven to go have dinner with them off the clock and to a cheap restaurant they are dreaming. She might do it on a whim when she happens to be in a really good mood but I wouldn't count on it.

First of all Heaven lives or at least lived with her girlfriend Ruby Red another gorgeous and well reviewed young lady so you can guess how much she would be into being a friend with benefits.

I know you were not the one who was saying this but another poster.

[QUOTE=Hacsek;2634097]I think a lot of you are dreaming or chest thumping.

Escorts are in it for the money not to be your friend with benefits.

A person who visits Montreal occasionally and thinks he can just invite a lady to lunch or dinner "nothing expensive" and off the clock is laughable.

This may happen after a period of time with an ATF that has learned to trust you and wants to keep the relationship.

Most escorts that are exceptional and worth seeing have high expectations and will not see you in a 1-3 star hotel or go have dinner with you in a cheap restaurant.

They expect to be treated with class and will not settle for what you describe.

This is not your home country this is Montreal, we have super nice escorts, which are still a bargain compared to the US but they don't come cheap and expect to be treated well. Most of these ladies have an established clientele and don't need to see just anybody..[/QUOTE]And can I ask you how many you have seen in the USA? There are plenty of girls on SA in the USA who are very nice and down to earth and can hold their own with any of these ladies you describe.

Okay last message. I've already said too much. Here's my experience. You don't have to read it. Sorry if you disagree. Sometimes people just have different life experiences.

And yes I agree with what some of you say that it's difficult develop a sugar friendship. And most girls just aren't interested. And it takes a long time.

Now gather around and listen young fryers as I will not send you out into the wilderness as a wolf amongst sheep.

[QUOTE=HarvestBoi;2633985] Care to say who it was?[/QUOTE]I could. But I shouldn't.

But these special rates are for people she trust and has some sort of friendship with so would it make a difference if I named her?

She's very tall very thin and very blonde. Escort from an agency. 9.5/10 Revealing her identity wouldn't help me accomplish my goals in the bedroom. And we have a little artificial friendship and trust so I can't violate the terms and conditions. But I will say the important part.

For example I paid 350 to 500. For the evening. Usually 2 to 3 hours. I believe personally the standard is somewhere around that range. Once I went to her house just to talk for an hour just for 60. The 2nd time we were going to talk again for 60 but I got carried away and it ended up being a very physical sexy 400 cad conversation. It happens. Also one time we just talked over the video phone. Yes I know a lot of guys and girls think talking is stupid. But whatever.

I really like going over to her house and doing her in her own bed. Maybe silly but I felt like I accomplished something. Haha it was Reverend Paul McCartney that said "what's wrong with silly love songs?

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2633709]To be honest never heard of a girl accepting 1000 for an entire week.[/QUOTE] Jalimon your are a proud young foal today. And tomorrow you will be a strong bull. So you must be wise listen more and keep your ears wide open.

[QUOTE=Hacsek;2633669]$1400 for 4 hours is about the going rate for reputable escorts these days, and most will expect a paid dinner or lunch on top of that for 4 hrs.[/QUOTE]Well that is partly true and I shared your opinion back in the day when I was a young frier. Now that I am an old rooster with a beard I have come to learn that prices are your mileage may vary.

For example as one girl told me there's one guy who comes over to Montreal and pays 1000 per day for 3 days. So he gets Friday Saturday and Sunday. But then there's another customer that gets the whole month in his house for 3150. So go figure.

Now for advice:

- make it easy for her to do her job. A little industry secret. There guys who think just because they pay for an hour they can have 60 minute penetration. These guys get Black listed. Girls don't like their genitals to get strained for so long time.

- instead of in calls do out calls where you may be able to spend more time with the girl.

- when she's ready to give it to you ask for her number.

- try to see the same girl. Although I know some of you prefer to see 50 different girls instead of just one.

- Learn to make her cream her pants or orgasm without hurting her private parts.

- just have fun.

- try to learn about the economy. Like how many hours everyone works? How much everyone makes? That way you can put things into perspective. How much materials and logistic costs. What is the profit for different businesses?

- Be a gentleman.

- be trustworthy and honest.

-be generous but make sure you get your money's worth and that the girl was also generous with you.

-learn to negotiate. Never negotiate means don't try to haggle and rip her off. But if you have her best interest at heart and you propose something beneficial to her then you can negotiate. Also put her in a position where she wants to make her own suggestions and her own negotiations.

- Some of the girls met my friends and even met some relatives. So if you don't like the social thing maybe this is not your ride.

Is sex better with friends? Okay gym locker talk.

Well I've noticed after a few months it gets a lot easier to hit that cervix. One time I even hit twice in one thrust. Also at 1st she licked my balls for minute. But after month a minute turned into 30 minutes. And now for all the ladies reading I also did my service and used a dental dam spent a lot of time eating her ass. You really have to earn that cream. Haha good times. Now that I ate her ass proves I am an honest man so please don't criticize my character. Also please don't tell anyone I eat ass. This information is confidential and only for the members of the church.

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Android,

Pretty sure everyone on the thread with more than 10 posts has figured out the method you are describing, especially Jalimon.

It works best in the USA, actually, where screening is a hassle, and with independents who like to raise their rates after building a customer base. They often grandfather in existing customers at old rates with a promise of secrecy, and accept very reasonable offers from existing customers for multi-hour engagements.

We have all done those things, and still do them. It is certainly great to get to know the ladies better, but what you lose is variety. What makes the Montreal market appealing, especially the agency system, is the constant influx of new 18-25 year-olds. So a lot of posters do things differently in Montreal than they do, or would do, in other markets. They want many shorter sessions with many new ladies.

It isn't a case of you being a better John, although this lady, or ladies, have convinced you that is the case for marketing purposes. And some Montreal agency ladies certainly see regular customers on the side. Everyone, even the agencies, realizes that.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2634473]It isn't a case of you being a better John[/QUOTE]I promise I'm just an ordinary guy. The girls were just doing me a favor. LOL. But that being said I am a priest and a prominent member of the church.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2634473]especially Jalimon.[/QUOTE]I understand J-Mon. Is a black belt. I was joking.

The reason I made that post is to help out the community. Some think they have to spend 1500 to have some fun. It's not always the case. But if you want to spend it!

Can anyone chime in on the overall festivities in town during New Year's? Seems like fireworks, night clubs, parties, etc. All take place, does anyone have any prior experiences good or bad around this time? Thinking of spending some time there during the end of the year, just trying to keep my options open.

Looking at old posts from agencies it seems all stay open and girls are available for the most part. I appreciate any intel.

[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2634587]Can anyone chime in on the overall festivities in town during New Year's? Seems like fireworks, night clubs, parties, etc. All take place, does anyone have any prior experiences good or bad around this time? Thinking of spending some time there during the end of the year, just trying to keep my options open.

Looking at old posts from agencies it seems all stay open and girls are available for the most part. I appreciate any intel.[/QUOTE]Not sure due to the pandemic situation how it will be. Some measure could be reinforce by then (like nightclub restriction.). Make sure to take cancellation options (if you come by plane).

Christmas is usually very quiet with the girls going to their family. But usually by December 27 it picks up a bit. There is a bit less girl available but less client as well (the locals are quiet.). Me it's a period I used to see a lot of girl in the past. It's a fun time and the girls were always happy.

Lots of festivities around old port, on mont-royal and downtown. And of course the bars and clubs are usually full. It can be very cold some years (like last year!

I would always recommend visit to Montreal between April and October but a visit for New year's eve can be a lot of fun.

[QUOTE=NapataJohn;2634176]And can I ask you how many you have seen in the USA? There are plenty of girls on SA in the USA who are very nice and down to earth and can hold their own with any of these ladies you describe.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't know about SA.

I don't have the patience for SA, great if it works for you.

Got my Verifly details cleared up including my arrive. Can receipt so I have all my documents in order, just need my flight to not get screwed by American airlines cancellation last moment and I should be set for a fun time.

So excited.

Top girls I'm hoping to see this trip.

Lina from XO, Rachel from Euphoria / Xo, Elie from Euphoria, and maybe Kourtney / Nelly from Euphoria.

Got 2500 CAD $ in my pocket ready to have some fun tomorrow through Thursday, going to book a two hour session tomorrow night for after I land and check in to my hotel, then probably try to get three 1.5 hour sessions on Wednesday and two 1. 5 hour sessions on Thursday before I leave back to US.

[QUOTE=Hacsek;2634097]I think a lot of you are dreaming or chest thumping.

Escorts are in it for the money not to be your friend with benefits.......[/QUOTE]Its actually a lot simpler than you think. I like company when I'm dining. Its for me, not them.

[QUOTE=Android2987;2633897]This is how it works:


1 of these customers can get an evening for 400 or 500 Or 350 and that usually includes 2 or 3 hours. But also consider they do this 2 or 3 times a month. So the money goes further. And most of the time is not spent having sex.

Personally I recommend you not pay excessive rates for multiple hours another way to save money is just to book her out call for one hour. The hour before she Arrives to your house house start masturbating to some good porn then the next hour you spend it with her instead of with the porn. So you get one hour with porn and one hour with the girl and you only pay one out call hour.

See no need to break your bank account. LOL.[/QUOTE]Hahahaha. What kind of advice is that?

You get one HR w / the girl. You going to get one HR w / the girl.

Some porn, whether 1 or 6 hrs, is just porn.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2629562]Jalimon is giving you great advice. Here are a couple of more points.


3. Don't eat curry beforehand. That smell is completely foreign to these girls. [/QUOTE]I have to go further. Might have to quit it 3 days before. The various systematic spices have to exit the pores of your skin and hair. It is not unlike what they say about the welcome affects of consuming pineapple several days ahead to apply.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2630542]Hum to be honest I never paid up front. Always at the very end. I just take the amount and leave it somewhere and make sure she sees it.

But for a foreigner I think it's a good advice to pay at the beginning I guess.[/QUOTE]I too, do not pay up front. Esp when receiving a visit. If I visit them however and it is their first meeting with me (and they are indy), they tend to want to take care of the details first. Usually just by knowing it is in view. Some do not want an envelope. I once asked why. They've been burned before.

[QUOTE=PCode80;2630039]I managed to visit Montreal a few months ago for two visits, met a few girls, and want to help with some report back. I'm not that active anymore lately but Montreal trips always require a special treatment. For those reading, you can assume these are all standard GFE service and I will call out the special ones if any. I'm a fairly vanilla person.[/QUOTE]She seems to be regularly FB.

I am a POC born and raised in Montreal. I've seen quite a bit of racism in my time including being told to go back to where I came from, talked down to by service personnel and being rejected by escorts.

I'd recommend TO before Montreal if you're a POC.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2631671]Sorry if you took it that way. It was not political. I was only reflecting on my own experience growing up in Quebec versus my Asian American friend experience.

For them coming to Montreal and be seen just as another normal person is amazing. They did not get that feeling growing up in the US. That's it.

Anyhow I was just trying to secure the poster that as an Asian American Montreal he will be welcomed and the girl will love him.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Danibbler;2642284]I am a POC born and raised in Montreal. I've seen quite a bit of racism in my time including being told to go back to where I came from, talked down to by service personnel and being rejected by escorts.

I'd recommend TO before Montreal if you're a POC.[/QUOTE]There are plenty of SP in Montreal who are not in the least racist.

Racism exists everywhere not just Montreal or Toronto for that matter and you don't have to be a visible minority.

I was told many times to go back to my country when I first came to Montreal and I was indistinguishable from the majority until they heard my Aussi accent, ironically I was told the same thing in Australia while I was learning English.

You should never let these things get to you, you will find assholes no matter where you go in the world but luckily you can find just as many kind and caring people also.

I made my way back to spend the holidays in Montreal, and overall it was pretty good. The trip almost didn't happen, with COVID cases surging again and Montreal shutting down bars just a day before my departure I felt tempted to cancel my trip, but I had been talking to some girls from SA for awhile and so my little head won LOL. It turns out my timing was good, since they ended up imposing a curfew on the last day I was there, but restaurants stayed opened throughout my visit and the city seemed overall normal to me minus closed bars. Oh, and it was pretty cold some days, but that is normal for Montreal this time of the year.

Upon arrival the airport was pretty busy, I got questioned about why I was traveling alone but I held my ground about wanting to visit a "friend" and spending some time in the city and I got in no problem.

Downtown seemed quieter than last time I was here in October. But girl selection was good at agencies and massage parlors, I checked off a lot of girls off my TDL without issue. I stayed in a nice hotel near Montreal Convention Center, and the location was perfect to everything. The Basilica of Notre Dame was just a couple of blocks away, and Catherine St the same just a couple of blocks away.

First, let's talk about my SA experience. This is my first encounter ever using SA, and might be my last since I was banned for making rookie mistakes while messaging girls.

Two weeks ago I fired off messages to a bunch of local girls, and focused on this mid 20's girl, beautiful pictures and black skin, pretty face. We kept in touch daily, got along pretty good and got the nice pics from her from time to time. I picked a place to meet and finally got to see her in person. Wow, she was real and quite hot when walking in the restaurant, I had a big smile on my face when she came in, I'm sure! Tall, sexy and well mannered. We had food and drinks, and I just couldn't wait to taste her lips. The food was great, and we finally headed back to my hotel. Now, I might be overthinking it but one thing that gave me "pro" vibes was when walking in my room and we started kissing, she made a comment about taking care of her gift first. We kept going, but I had to give her the gift agreed upon for PPM prior to intercourse. Now, naked she was even hotter than I thought, I'm talking about natural the cups with beautiful dark nipples, tight waist, round ass and smelled great everywhere. Her kisses were tasty too, and her BBBJ was great, almost too good for a non-pro LOL. We continued and switched many positions until I finally blew my load looking at the amazing ass from behind. We chilled for awhile and eventually she asked if I could order an Uber for her to go home. Overall we spent close to 5 hours together, and yes I enjoyed her company to dinner and obviously the great sex, but I never felt I had to see her again and so this was a one time deal. Besides girl talent here is high, and she even acknowledged I probably had other dates lined up LOL.

So I experienced a lot of girls, most were great and I left very satisfied, I will need a break after this!

Massage Parlor.

The 2214. I like this place, except my favorite girl Ella raised her price and this time I skipped. But I picked the following two girls, and they didn't disappoint. Once again I saw the presentation, and went for what I liked. Afterwards I was asked by the co-owner if I liked young spinners, and I said hell yeah! So he said come back tomorrow and see Francesca, she will start soon and so I did! But first.

Li-Anna: 19 years old asian girl, cute and super fun, kept playing with me and teasing me so much, extending my release until I couldn't and even thanked me while having fun with each together. LFK but recommended. Open minded to services.

Francesca: 19 years old, looks Latina but is Lebanese, great spinner body 95 Lbs but has meat in the right places, natural and beautiful young look. A bit weird while talking sometimes but that body, wow natural the cups. LFK but recommended as well. Open minded to services.

Agency Girls.

Euphoria.

Elie: pretty popular, fit girl with enhanced DDD and great ass. She was submissive with me and had high stamina, DFK and got into it pretty good and we had good chemistry, porn star look and I liked her a lot. Her chest tattoos are perfect for COB. Only thing I believe she doesn't do is CIM but I never asked.

Heaven: I believe she works twice a week, so I wanted to catch her while visiting. I was her last appointment of the day, but she opened the door friendly and nicely dressed up with heels. I think she also has a porn star look, big tits and ass with enhanced lips. I was expecting her to have a tighter body but she was more like a tall slim and curvy girl. Service was good, DFK. The session wasn't as great as I expected but I was also a bit tired after seeing 2 other girls the same day. She's easy to talk to, but I'm not sure I'll repeat since I think others like Rachel are hotter.

Marina (Outcall). Very friendly girl, she's a short girl but very cute, petite size with curves in the right places, charming young girl with a pretty French accent. We talked about different topics, but soon enough I wanted to embrace her. When she started removing her clothes I fully appreciated her beauty, her perfect skin, perky tits and delightful small waist with a nice and meaty ass. We moved to the bed to play and we started kissing, a small hint of smokers taste but it wasn't a deal breaker for me. She kissed very well alternating LFK with DFK. I wanted to try DATY so she laid down for me and I went at it for some time, precious kitty with a nice trimmed V shaped Bush. I was overwhelmed a bit to be quite frank, I liked her a lot, and admit I even got slightly nervous, so I needed help getting ready for action, she didn't mind at all, she went at it performing a great BBBJ with DT until she got me hard, it took about 10 min but she persisted and we tried a few positions. I got a great release during K9 and enjoyed time talking after. I recommend her.

Juliette (curvy body). Pretty round face with green eyes and curly black hair. Nice tits with pierced nipples. Fat ass, and beautiful pink pussy with pretty lips, DATY tasted very good. Says she's 22 and looks that way. Got into it, I finished in CIM for 40 extra and seemed to swallow it, then she got me hard again and I asked for 69, she jerked me off while I ate her and I finished again in her mouth. Good session, repeat is possible nice girl. I'll try outcall next time.

Catherine (Spinner with tattoos and big tits) Outcall. We didn't have chemistry, she was conscious about language since the start, seemed uncomfortable and not into it. Mechanical and used a lot of lube, I had to force myself to finish after taking a break from the first action. Asked her to leave about 10 min early to avoid being uncomfortable. Cracked lips, nails and pedicure not done? Not sure why she has so many good reviews, her face and body reminds me of Rachel but with way worse service.

XO. All incalls.

Lola: Wow. She randomly came up on XOs schedule and I got lucky someone cancelled her. She's 5'10" tall, 21 years old, beautiful face, and a body that can easily model in a French runway. The most amazing thing is her ass, seeing her waist to ass ratio is just such a pleasure, tight kitty and great hygiene, she let me feast on her during DATY and DATO. Super easy going too, we talked a bit after the action, amazing girl. A must see.

Bianka (Perfect blonde slim fit body) Amazing girl, just my type. Said she's 28. Pretty face with blue eyes and pretty face, a very good kisser. Great DDs with piercing and pink nipples, and firm round ass, thin waist and nice legs. Tattoos but nothing distracting, perfect tan skin. Great BBBJ with DT, would have been able to CIM but I wanted to fuck her so bad I didn't let her finish me during the blowjob. View from CG and doggie is great, finished round 1 while K9. She started BBBJ for round 2 and got into it, but I wanted to fuck her more. She rode again and I put her on missionary for awhile until I finished again, I felt completely relieved. Just a perfect session, to end my trip, she was my parting gift from Montreal. Good combination of GFE with PSE, she treated me very well and is ATF material for me.

Rebecca (slim & fit girl with pretty skin) Great body just my type, 24 years old but unfortunately not good chemistry between us and she was not into it. Kissing was ok but no passion, we didn't click. I had to lead a lot, she didn't seem to enjoy DATY as much and I had to pause after doing it to try to build some chemistry talking. She was hot enough to get me hard and gave a good BBBJ, sloppy. Then I put the condom on and ask to do doggie, hit her pretty good then switched to CG until I finished. Afterwards I felt rushed and she was not friendly, I rinsed and left with about 10 min left. Bummer, I would not repeat.

Sabrina (Big ass) from Morocco. Beautiful 19 year old tall girl with green eyes and a yummy ass, soft skin and just couldn't stop grabbing her big ass. She was responsive and cool attitude. She likes to DFK a lot. Small tits but her ass was great. MSOG in 1 hour. Saw her again the next day, wow I couldn't help to enjoy her body, she is great with a small waist and flat stomach, great hips and her ass OMG I played even more with it the second time and she enjoys it, great DATY and DATO. Great sessions and follow up conversations when we were not fucking, which was barely any time, I got lucky and she said I was her first customer in 3 months and she was looking forward to seeing me. Then the next day she seemed very happy to see me again. One of my top 3 visits here.

VOG. Outcalls.

Laura: Wow. She only works once or twice a week I believe. As soon as I saw her coming in the hotel lobby she was smiling at me. We get in the elevator and she starts kissing me. I offered her wine and when she got undressed I was so pleased to see this beautiful white girl with an amazing fit body and gorgeous face, smiling non stop and DFK without care. Her BBBJ was sloppy and delicious, eventually I just picked her up and laid her flat on bed so I could return the favor, pushed her legs up and I ate until she finished. Then had her ride me for awhile, switched to doggie and she came again. Switch to missionary and she says finish inside me, oh how I wish it was BBFS but one can only dream. Time flew by, she seemed genuine about not wanting to leave. I saw her again the following week, and once again she didn't disappoint. She was top 3 in my visits here as well. Highly recommended.

Eleonore (White Spinner) best session in Montreal last trip, and once again she delivered. GFE+, sweet and beautiful face and smile. Amazing 90 min session. She smiled a lot again, looked beautiful and kissed a lot, her eyes where focused on me the whole time again, great chemistry. All positions again, the most on CG, hit her hard on K9 and then missionary, I asked her if I could finish in her mouth and she said yes you can. I pulled up and threw off the condom, she puts puts my dick in her mouth and sucks until I finish, then swallows my cum and giggles, I gave her a kiss she was so hot. Then laid down like lovers until she starts to play with my dick again, sucks me hard and rides me more, fucked for another 20 min and another great release. She loves sex, and it shows. I would see this girl weekly and not get tired. My favorite girl by far.

Honey (Black spinner) not too friendly upon meeting, had to work hard to help her settle down. Great body, some tattoos, tight waist but she had a strong smell during DATY which turned me off. Good BBBJ so she got me hard again and tried a few positions until I finished In missionary. Not strong chemistry, nice girl but I won't repeat.

I had the chance to visit some restaurants before they closed them. I recommend Tiradito and Chiffa for Peruvian food. I visited Fish & Bone for sushi, and it was good but not great, however the waitresses show a lot of cleavage and seem friendly so it was worth the visit. I also went to Solmar, which is a Portuguese place and their Seafood Rice was great!

I walked around Old Port a lot and its a nice place! I hope to come back during summer and once everything reopens again.

I like Montreal a lot. I had a lot of fun and got a lot of GFE sex, so much that I need to take a break from mongering trips LOL. I took my antigen test using the Emed option with certified online assistance and once again it was smooth sailing. I keep being amazed how after seeing all these girls I keep testing negative, luck I guess but I also took my booster a couple of weeks prior to my trip so in the end it all worked out in my favor.

Montreal is a perfect mongering spot, but also a lovely city. I have nothing negative to say other than currently they are dealing with a lot of COVID restrictions, but I'm sure they'll get over them soon and things will be great again.

EB.

Great report! I've flown dozens of times into Canada and elsewhere and no one has ever asked me why I was traveling alone! How much money. Have I ever been fingerprinted. Etc. But never why was I alone? Weird!

What rookie mistakes are you talking about? Thanks!

[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2646089]
Upon arrival the airport was pretty busy, I got questioned about why I was traveling alone but I held my ground about wanting to visit a "friend" and spending some time in the city and I got in no problem.

First, let's talk about my SA experience. This is my first encounter ever using SA, and might be my last since I was banned for making rookie mistakes while messaging girls.

.[/QUOTE]

That's a great report for sure.

Would you recommend the 8 HR bus trip to mongers from NYC for a few days? I see Busbud has rates of $75.

Are there any marijuana dispensaries within the city limits?

I would recommend that you keep an eye on the now suspended Amtrak service from NYC to Montreal. This line called the Adirondack was cancelled when Covid began and Amtrak is considering the reinstatement of the service sometime in 2022.

[QUOTE=Artisttyp;2646182]That's a great report for sure.

Would you recommend the 8 HR bus trip to mongers from NYC for a few days? I see Busbud has rates of $75.

Are there any marijuana dispensaries within the city limits?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tomasb;2646305]I would recommend that you keep an eye on the now suspended Amtrak service from NYC to Montreal. This line called the Adirondack was cancelled when Covid began and Amtrak is considering the reinstatement of the service sometime in 2022.[/QUOTE]The 11 hour train ride is a long trip in lieu of a 1. 5 flight. I'm sure depending on the season there is some great scenery, but I find that's too much time to spend back and forth on a train.

By the way, great report EverythingBlue. It's great to have a library of Montreal reviews here on ISG. You hit some of the famous girls. Laura at Vogue is a well-regarded beauty. Heaven has been around awhile and is very popular with the guys looking for an accentuated pornstar look. Heaven has a Twitter feed where one can get a very good look at what to expect. Interestingly, some of Heaven's Twitter photos and clips are quite graphic. I suspect your success in booking was amplified by the winter season.

[URL]https://twitter.com/MtlHeaven[/URL]

[QUOTE=Danibbler;2646132]Great report! I've flown dozens of times into Canada and elsewhere and no one has ever asked me why I was traveling alone! How much money. Have I ever been fingerprinted. Etc. But never why was I alone? Weird!

What rookie mistakes are you talking about? Thanks![/QUOTE]I should've switched to texting prior to using phrases like "getting intimate" on SA during conversations with girls. A girl must've reported me when I disagreed with her PPM during texts, she seemed upset. I've learned that you should switch to text ASAP and not discuss anything other that maybe go out for fun and go from there. I haven't decided if I'll give it another try somehow, seems like too much work right now.

[QUOTE=Artisttyp;2646182]That's a great report for sure.

Would you recommend the 8 HR bus trip to mongers from NYC for a few days? I see Busbud has rates of $75.

Are there any marijuana dispensaries within the city limits?[/QUOTE]I really can't comment on bus trips or dispensaries since I don't partake. I've seen a lot of discussions about land crossings in their local board Merb, I would give that a read. I have to say that it it's worth the trip once they reopen back up though.

[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2646328]I should've switched to texting prior to using phrases like "getting intimate" on SA during conversations with girls. A girl must've reported me when I disagreed with her PPM during texts, she seemed upset. I've learned that you should switch to text ASAP and not discuss anything other that maybe go out for fun and go from there. I haven't decided if I'll give it another try somehow, seems like too much work right now.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the excellent review below. Not surprised you had an excellent encounter via SA. But if it was her first time meeting you, and you were able to complete a full session high chances that she also work as an SP and / or has so many encounters via SA that she's actually one. I mean let's be fair girl on SA that provide sex are escort. The difference is the medium and the fact that you cannot, for the life of me, call them escort!

Surprised to learn Elie does not provide CIM. Must be recent as I had it with her. You got me interested in Sabrina and Juliette.

By the way I also was banned fast on SA. Exactly like you. I thinks they check for keywords and can easily find people negotiating. I Created another account and switch to email very fast. For me SA was very good because I live in the suburb. I found girl that were living about 1 h from downtown with much lower fee. It's on SA that I found a young cute teacher. She had not said to her BF that she had every Friday morning off in order to try out SA. She was so nervous the first time. It turned out she was a total nympho. She said her BF did not like sex that much. She devoured me. After about 3 months of crazy sex she dumped her BF and began doing more SA at night. She discovered having sex with 50 year old dude can be a lot of fun. Of course I said to her. We always fuck like it's going to be the last time! Then she found a new hot BF and I guess that one like sex because she forgot about me. I continue on SA a few month but never found anything near that teacher.

[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2646329]I really can't comment on bus trips or dispensaries since I don't partake. I've seen a lot of discussions about land crossings in their local board Merb, I would give that a read. I have to say that it it's worth the trip once they reopen back up though.[/QUOTE]OK. Thank You.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2646368]Thanks for the excellent review below. Not surprised you had an excellent encounter via SA. But if it was her first time meeting you, and you were able to complete a full session high chances that she also work as an SP and / or has so many encounters via SA that she's actually one. I mean let's be fair girl on SA that provide sex are escort. The difference is the medium and the fact that you cannot, for the life of me, call them escort!

Surprised to learn Elie does not provide CIM. Must be recent as I had it with her. You got me interested in Sabrina and Juliette.

By the way I also was banned fast on SA. Exactly like you. I thinks they check for keywords and can easily find people negotiating. I Created another account and switch to email very fast. For me SA was very good because I live in the suburb. I found girl that were living about 1 h from downtown with much lower fee. It's on SA that I found a young cute teacher. She had not said to her BF that she had every Friday morning off in order to try out SA. She was so nervous the first time. It turned out she was a total nympho. She said her BF did not like sex that much. She devoured me. After about 3 months of crazy sex she dumped her BF and began doing more SA at night. She discovered having sex with 50 year old dude can be a lot of fun. Of course I said to her. We always fuck like it's going to be the last time! Then she found a new hot BF and I guess that one like sex because she forgot about me. I continue on SA a few month but never found anything near that teacher.[/QUOTE]To be fair I didn't ask Elie directly if she'the do it, just got the vibe so I might be wrong. Sabrina we clicked instantly and the rest is history. I hope to see her again one day.

How did you create a new account? Just used a different email and it worked? I tried and it banned me right away again. Did you use a different device and different network? I've read that they track your devices but haven't tried to join again. I think Montreal could be a good place to find girls, with so many young students and such a diverse population in the suburbs I'm sure there are girls curious to explore. I'd love to try again in the future.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2646368]Thanks for the excellent review below. Not surprised you had an excellent encounter via SA. But if it was her first time meeting you, and you were able to complete a full session high chances that she also work as an SP and / or has so many encounters via SA that she's actually one. I mean let's be fair girl on SA that provide sex are escort. The difference is the medium and the fact that you cannot, for the life of me, call them escort![/QUOTE]I find the need to label SA girls as escorts a bit humorous. I don't think this is the first time you have emphasized this point. And you are certainly not alone in this effort to put a label to it.

There are guys on the SA thread who try to set their multi-meeting hook-ups apart from the guys seeking one-time hook-ups. At the end of the day, none of the SA transactions really need to be labeled. If a young woman says "okay, I will only come to your hotel to have sex with you" or whatever euphemism she uses to describe intimacy, well then that's clearly an escort.

Steve (likely the most active SA sugar daddy) is an excellent case and point. He wines, dines and even dances with the young women. He genuinely likes hanging out with them. I know he has many one night SA sexual encounters. However when he finds a woman he enjoys hanging out with and having sex with, he will see them several times over long periods. Nobody believes these girls on SA have limited sexual experience. And other than getting lucky and finding a sexually-willing girl totally new to SA, no one believes these girls aren't meeting other guys on SA.

Likely, EverythingBlue's Montreal girl is active on SA. Maybe she truly likes the whole dating aspect in addition to the monetary gain. Maybe she likes to establish a rapport with the men she has sex with. From my experience, you simply call an escort or her agency and you meet up for a quick dalliance.

One of the reasons I find this all humorous is that the labeling also goes in the reverse manner. You will find guys on the third world country threads looking for non-pro girls who will spend a week with them hanging out and having sex. Other guys will use phrases like semi-pro in third world countries. I don't know what that means exactly.

Everyone here knows what we are all here for without trying to put a label to every transaction and every girl who benefits monetarily from sexual encounters.

I saw below girls from XO agency's current roaster. Incall location is downtown. Booking process was through text messages.

Arielle: I believe, she has Algerian background and currently in her late 20's. Facially, I found her above average. She has great fit body. Very service oriented girl. After I took my shower, I saw she was waiting for me in the bed in a nice lingerie. We started immediately with DFK and then slowly progressed through BBBJ and Full Service. Overall, great encounter with her.

Bianka: She started in this industry about 10+ years ago and currently, I think in her late 30's. Facially, I found her good looking. She has slim body with few tattoos and enhanced boobs. This girl definitely knows how to talk and also how to provide great GFE service. She is a keeper.

Elizabeth: Facially, she has GND looks. Probably, in her late 20's. I was little disappointed when I saw her. She was little bit on healthier side and that is not really my type. She was very eager to please but honestly, I was not that interested. So, I finished the session early within 35 minutes.

Estelle: She looks very young and cute. Has very nice body too. No tattoos. I would say her service was average. She was having some trouble with different positions.

Evelyn: She has European background and for sure a head-turner. I found her little bit lazy in bed though and I had to do all the work. The highlight of our session was we did greek.

Harley: Facially, I found her very good looking and young. She has very nice pair of 32 the natural boobs. She gave me great GFE Service. I have repeated with her several times.

Kate: She has German background and currently in her late 20's. Facially, she looks very hot and very nice to talk to. Her service is more PSE than GFE. The highlight of our session was receiving Rimming from her.

Olivia: Facially, she is not really my type. Has GND looks. Her body is fit but noticed several tattoos. She has prior experience working in a massage parlor and so, I also took a massage from her after we finished.

Sabrina: She has Moroccan background and probably, in her early 20's. Facially I found her very GND. She has very nice fit body with big ass. She was very eager to please and I had overall good time with her. The highlight of our session was lot of DFK.

This parlor is located outside of downtown in Montreal East. From downtown, I took an Uber to go there. Took about 1 hour with all the traffic. I saw 2 girls there.

Eva: Facially, she is drop dead gorgeous. You can see her pictures in twitter account at EvasAngelsMtl. I believe she is also currently the manager of this parlor. I would say giving massage is not her biggest strength but otherwise she is great to talk to and provides good debutante level service. If you connect with her, you will have good time. YMMV.

Alexia: Facially, she is hot. You can see her twitter account at AlexiaFei. Due to lack of Asian girls in Montreal, she is very popular among guys. Conversation with her was not very fluent but otherwise she delivered a passionate GFE service. I saw her in the parlor but I know she also does outcalls.

I always enjoyed Jalimon's many posts and reviews on the local board, but I can tell you pretty confidently that he is primarily a Montreal mongerer with a taste for its better escorts.

The guys here on ISG that insist on distinguishing Sugar Babies from prostitutes are often guys who have a lot of experience in the third world.

While I don't have Jalimon's level of Montreal experiences, I have done enough in the third world to understand that there are a lot of prostitutes there who could simply not pull off the Sugar experience. They just aren't educated or cultured enough. Doesn't mean some of them can't be a good fuck, though.

Montreal's higher-end escorts are different and more versatile. I don't mean the LeoList ones, but I do mean the agency and independents with a Twitter / website presence.

I saw one of Jalimon's favorites once. I got lucky in that she was working that afternoon with XO escorts at her low rate. I had a fantastic time. We talked some, and at that moment she was working with XO on certain afternoons. She had a big web channel subscription thing where she did performances at night under a different name. She occasionally worked as an independent under yet a different name at a much higher price per hour. It was revealed later on the local board that she had six, yes six, different Sugar Daddies for a while that she presumably met through Seeking Arrangement. None of them knew about the other Sugar Daddies.

You have to understand that when we meet, and grow to really like, girls such as her, we laugh when we read comments about how Seeking Arrangement ladies are so much different than hookers. As I said, that may be true sometimes in the Third World due to the practicalities of life. But these bilingual Montreal escorts are well educated and they can be whatever the situation calls for.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2646817]I find the need to label SA girls as escorts a bit humorous. I don't think this is the first time you have emphasized this point. And you are certainly not alone in this effort to put a label to it.

There are guys on the SA thread who try to set their multi-meeting hook-ups apart from the guys seeking one-time hook-ups. At the end of the day, none of the SA transactions really need to be labeled. If a young woman says "okay, I will only come to your hotel to have sex with you" or whatever euphemism she uses to describe intimacy, well then that's clearly an escort.

Steve (likely the most active SA sugar daddy) is an excellent case and point. He wines, dines and even dances with the young women. He genuinely likes hanging out with them. I know he has many one night SA sexual encounters. However when he finds a woman he enjoys hanging out with and having sex with, he will see them several times over long periods. Nobody believes these girls on SA have limited sexual experience. And other than getting lucky and finding a sexually-willing girl totally new to SA, no one believes these girls aren't meeting other guys on SA..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Artisttyp;2646182]That's a great report for sure.

Would you recommend the 8 HR bus trip to mongers from NYC for a few days? I see Busbud has rates of $75.

Are there any marijuana dispensaries within the city limits?[/QUOTE]Hmm, do you really want an experience of, accounting for delays, 8-10 HR public bus ride? Esp if it is in the winter? Rest room breaks must be horrid. Not worth it IMHO for the price.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2632019]Jalimon, As a side note, I've worked with many Asian immigrants in the corporate world. Many will say they had a choice to immigrate to the United States or Canada. They opted for the United States. How bad can it be here for Asians?[/QUOTE]How deep did your survey go? A choice can be driven by which place they might make better money for their time. USD $$$ vs CAD?

Maybe they would tolerate with intolerance for the sake of accumulating wealth until they are ready to make a move elsewhere, which means you can't say it isn't that bad just because they opted for the USA rather than CAD.

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So one thing I didn't mention earlier is that when I met my date and we got back to my hotel room we started the action, and when she made a comment about her gift I ended up taking care of it before we consummated the act, but how I did it mattered to her apparently LOL. What I did is I placed the cash on a counter visible to her. When she saw this she complained, she said I hate you did that like if I'm an escort LOL. I just kept going and so did she, but it got me thinking how would she know that? And would giving it to her directly have been better?

During other conversations some girls made comments about first meeting nothing physical is guaranteed, or that a gift is expected nevertheless. Well is that not an escort aka companion anyhow? I guess the terminology matters to the girls, and to some of us it matters too. It's all a fantasy, and that's fine by me. I still think about my date with my Brazilian girlfriend for the night during my last trip to SP, her beautiful tight dress and our conversation at dinner about climate change and Brazilian exports LOL. About literature and how she never wants to leave Brazil, she's a proud girl. Of course I enjoyed the sex after, but I enjoyed it more because all this lead up got me stimulated more than a double dose of Viagra.

So I agree, girls can be anything they want to be with whoever they want to, so let's not forget, money is the worlds greatest aphrodisiac! LOL.

Will be heading out for f1 weekend this year.

Can anyone recommend a few AMP's located closer to downtown? Or do I have to take a cab ride outside?

Thanks in advance!

[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2647018]So one thing I didn't mention earlier is that when I met my date and we got back to my hotel room we started the action, and when she made a comment about her gift I ended up taking care of it before we consummated the act, but how I did it mattered to her apparently LOL. What I did is I placed the cash on a counter visible to her. When she saw this she complained, she said I hate you did that like if I'm an escort LOL. I just kept going and so did she, but it got me thinking how would she know that? And would giving it to her directly have been better?

During other conversations some girls made comments about first meeting nothing physical is guaranteed, or that a gift is expected nevertheless. Well is that not an escort aka companion anyhow? I guess the terminology matters to the girls, and to some of us it matters too. It's all a fantasy, and that's fine by me. I still think about my date with my Brazilian girlfriend for the night during my last trip to SP, her beautiful tight dress and our conversation at dinner about climate change and Brazilian exports LOL. About literature and how she never wants to leave Brazil, she's a proud girl..[/QUOTE]Perhaps the woman has ideas of escorts from movies and television. Maybe she was an "escort", but now prefers SA. In the "sugar babies are escorts" discussion, I have to think an escort makes more money much faster. I'm not sure how you laid out the cash. Even with escorts, I tend to show up with an envelope and place it to the side. As you know, in Brazil it's different. Generally everything is more playful and then at the end you hand the girl cash. She gives you a kiss.

I only find the desire to label P4 P activities humorous. And yes, SA on this forum is basically a form of P4 P. One or two guys on the SA thread mention possibly marrying a third world sugar baby with whom they enjoy their company. Does that move along the escort to sugar baby to gold digger spectrum to use common labels?

The humor for me lies in the allusion men and women create in their heads in this P4P world. As I noted, some SA guys get a little self-righteous that they "date" girls multiple times while others are just "butterflies" as the Thai hookers use to describe men who bounced around from girl to girl.

The craziest discussions are on the flipside where first world guys who travel to Brazil, Thailand, etc. And proclaim here that they don't want to shack up with a pro. Huh? The phrase semi-pro is another one of those allusions. Does that mean a girl who only looks for a score one or two nights a week? Some guys here get off on thinking about some sweet girl who only does this once in awhile to pay for her college education. This also ventures off into the dirty girl / clean girl allusion that some guys have.

I had a buddy who came back from Brazil after spending most of his week with a girl he met at Shenanigan's Irish Pub in Ipanema. You would not automatically assume an English-speaking Brasileira here is a working girl. He went on and on about her. Her beauty, her intelligence, her humor. He wanted to go back to see her. He claimed she didn't want money, but he took her to the mall to buy her some gifts. It sounded nice. When he showed me her photos (lovely woman by the way), I did not want to burst his bubble. I had seen her photos on a sex forum not once but on two separate occasions.

[QUOTE=RafiXo;2646880]I saw below girls from XO agency's current roaster. Incall location is downtown. Booking process was through text messages.[/QUOTE]Thanks Rafi. This is a good addition to the library of MTL reviews.

I'm curious. How was Kate with DFK? I came across some photos of her awhile back. She had a pretty, Germanic look. I can't seem to find the photos on a Twitter account or the XO site.

And, Eva the manager at Maya's Angels is a knockout.

[QUOTE=Kabukicho;2646983]How deep did your survey go? A choice can be driven by which place they might make better money for their time. USD $$$ vs CAD?

Maybe they would tolerate with intolerance for the sake of accumulating wealth until they are ready to make a move elsewhere, which means you can't say it isn't that bad just because they opted for the USA rather than CAD.[/QUOTE]For obvious reasons, I'm not going to discuss my social or professional life. Nor will I discuss where I live or have lived.

Let's just say my experience / survey goes much deeper than CNN's commentary on America. That is not a real gauge of what is going on in the country.

By the way, some USA Immigrants flirt with the idea of going back one day but it rarely seems to happen.

[QUOTE=MitForLfe;2647047]Will be heading out for f1 weekend this year.

Can anyone recommend a few AMP's located closer to downtown? Or do I have to take a cab ride outside?

Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]Forgot that as a new user that my posts have to be approved by a moderator. Lost access to my older ISG handle Mit4 LFE and can't seem to recover it.

Will be arriving at 2230 so most agencies are closed and am looking for a quick session before my friends arrive.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2646974]I always enjoyed Jalimon's many posts and reviews on the local board, but I can tell you pretty confidently that he is primarily a Montreal mongerer with a taste for its better escorts.

The guys here on ISG that insist on distinguishing Sugar Babies from prostitutes are often guys who have a lot of experience in the third world.

While I don't have Jalimon's level of Montreal experiences, I have done enough in the third world to understand that there are a lot of prostitutes there who could simply not pull off the Sugar experience. They just aren't educated or cultured enough. Doesn't mean some of them can't be a good fuck, though.

Montreal's higher-end escorts are different and more versatile. I don't mean the LeoList ones, but I do mean the agency and independents with a Twitter / website presence.[/QUOTE]I enjoy Jalimon's posts on the Montreal scene. I'm glad he's here and not elsewhere. However, I don't agree with everything he posts. I know I don't agree with his politics.

To give you more perspective on my chuckle, there is a correlation between guys who get thrown off Seeking Arrangements and those who feel compelled to insist that sugar babies are just escorts. Seeking Arrangements itself certainly has enough legal motivation to keep the pay for play aspect off-line. I believe Seeking Arrangements is not an escort site. I also believe Seeking Arrangements is an escort site. LOL.

I think EverythingBlue might have burned by a SA chick who decided his lower monetary offer was an offer for sex. If he met her high quote, he would have been a sugar daddy. Whoever said young women were rational.

As far as escorts and sugar babies in the first world vis-à-vis the third world, you might be overgeneralizing and underestimating the working girls in the third world. My experience in places like Brazil, Colombia and SE Asia is that you can find sharp working girls to hang out with if that's your thing. They know how to dress better. They teach themselves English. You can take them to nicer restaurants. They can hold a conversation and entertain first world males of a higher stature for an extended period.

Yes, I didn't mean all the ladies in the Third World. Most ladies I saw from Bangkok Gold years ago would have made great long-term dates, but only a few ladies I met in Pattaya would have. Seeking Arrangement is a very good demarcation device in the Third World.

But almost every lady working at Montreal's better agencies and as independents can, and will, do excellent dinner dates. So Everything Blue could have had the same seductive experience with a Montreal escort that he had with the Montreal Sugar Baby, without a snarky comment about the envelope.

Most Montreal escorts don't heavily discount the dinner and social time, though.

Some guys seem to value the uncertainty regarding sex at the end that accompanies the Sugar Baby system. Personally, I dislike uncertainty in life.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2647268]I enjoy Jalimon's posts on the Montreal scene. I'm glad he's here and not elsewhere. However, I don't agree with everything he posts. I know I don't agree with his politics.

To give you more perspective on my chuckle, there is a correlation between guys who get thrown off Seeking Arrangements and those who feel compelled to insist that sugar babies are just escorts. Seeking Arrangements itself certainly has enough legal motivation to keep the pay for play aspect off-line. I believe Seeking Arrangements is not an escort site. I also believe Seeking Arrangements is an escort site. LOL.

I think EverythingBlue might have burned by a SA chick who decided his lower monetary offer was an offer for sex. If he met her high quote, he would have been a sugar daddy. Whoever said young women were rational.

As far as escorts and sugar babies in the first world vis--vis the third world, you might be overgeneralizing and underestimating the working girls in the third world. My experience in places like Brazil, Colombia and SE Asia is that you can find sharp working girls to hang out with if that's your thing. They know how to dress better. They teach themselves English. You can take them to nicer restaurants. They can hold a conversation and entertain first world males of a higher stature for an extended period.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2647248]Thanks Rafi. This is a good addition to the library of MTL reviews.

I'm curious. How was Kate with DFK? I came across some photos of her awhile back. She had a pretty, Germanic look. I can't seem to find the photos on a Twitter account or the XO site.

And, Eva the manager at Maya's Angels is a knockout.[/QUOTE]Kate provides passionate DFK with lots of tongue action. I know she is very active nowadays in Onlyfans. Her onlyfans account is katealmond. You should be able to see more photos of her there if you subscribe.

[QUOTE=MitForLfe;2647047]Will be heading out for f1 weekend this year.

Can anyone recommend a few AMP's located closer to downtown? Or do I have to take a cab ride outside?

Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]Montreal does not have very good AMP scene. If you are looking for good massage and handjob then you could go to Jolie Massage which is close to downtown.

Another option is to go to Chinatown. You can find many AMPS there but remember most ladies are much older aunties and most likely will provide only massage and handjob.

If you need full service then you can call mae88 Asian agency. This agency does not have very good reputation. Lots of hit and miss. If money is not an issue for you then you should always book the highest priced girl from that agency. Usually good looking girls are highly priced there.

[QUOTE=RafiXo;2647315]Montreal does not have very good AMP scene. If you are looking for good massage and handjob then you could go to Jolie Massage which is close to downtown.

Another option is to go to Chinatown. You can find many AMPS there but remember most ladies are much older aunties and most likely will provide only massage and handjob.

If you need full service then you can call mae88 Asian agency. This agency does not have very good reputation. Lots of hit and miss. If money is not an issue for you then you should always book the highest priced girl from that agency. Usually good looking girls are highly priced there.[/QUOTE]Appreciate the recs, Rafi!

[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2646514]To be fair I didn't ask Elie directly if she'the do it, just got the vibe so I might be wrong. Sabrina we clicked instantly and the rest is history. I hope to see her again one day.

How did you create a new account? Just used a different email and it worked? I tried and it banned me right away again. Did you use a different device and different network? I've read that they track your devices but haven't tried to join again. I think Montreal could be a good place to find girls, with so many young students and such a diverse population in the suburbs I'm sure there are girls curious to explore. I'd love to try again in the future.[/QUOTE]Different email but I created the second one from my phone on my data plan (no WIFI). I didn't know if they were checking IP address or banning VPN.

[QUOTE=Kabukicho;2646988]Say, that's sweet, meanwhile was it not some racist comment you made on that "other board" which left you here?.[/QUOTE]Not at all. It was just a comment about something racist I had heard while working in the USA (before covid I would go to the US pretty much each month for work). The mod decided that it was racist.

To be fair I have highly liberal values.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2647288]Yes, I didn't mean all the ladies in the Third World. Most ladies I saw from Bangkok Gold years ago would have made great long-term dates, but only a few ladies I met in Pattaya would have. Seeking Arrangement is a very good demarcation device in the Third World.

But almost every lady working at Montreal's better agencies and as independents can, and will, do excellent dinner dates. So Everything Blue could have had the same seductive experience with a Montreal escort that he had with the Montreal Sugar Baby, without a snarky comment about the envelope.

Most Montreal escorts don't heavily discount the dinner and social time, though.

Some guys seem to value the uncertainty regarding sex at the end that accompanies the Sugar Baby system. Personally, I dislike uncertainty in life.[/QUOTE]I have read all your post Whyetarp and Mongerer.

It's true that I have no third world experience therefore my comment were purely for the Montreal scene. I have met so many girl over the last few years that also use SA to meet client. It's when some girl decided to also advertise on Twitter that they got kicked out of their agency. Like Lola.

When I asked Sonia Von Sacher what she calls herself. A Courtesan, an escort, an SA girl. She answered. I prefer you call me a ***** or 'une grosse cochonne' haha Sorry for the french. There is no correct translation that can capture the humor correctly.

One thing that I should have mention. When I was researching on SA I wave out all girl asking for monthly fee. I did not want to fall in that trap. So basically pretty much all other girl I exchanged with were fine with non scheduled meet up. Even one time meet. In that regards those girl were escort.

[QUOTE=RafiXo;2647307]Kate provides passionate DFK with lots of tongue action. I know she is very active nowadays in Onlyfans. Her onlyfans account is katealmond. You should be able to see more photos of her there if you subscribe.[/QUOTE]Kate did confess to me she likes it when it's a bit nasty. Therefore the pse side resurface quickly. She is in my opinion the girl to see in Montreal if you like it a bit on the nastier side. That said she's so pretty that pure GFE vanilla session will suit her, and you, just fine for those who prefer that.

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OK thanks I got it. I will strictly focus on talking about girls from now on.

On a positive note Elly has returned to XO. She is a bomb. Like the stars Kate, Heaven, Arielle and some others very beautiful and with an amazing attitude.

Becky has also returned to XO. She's like Bianka. A bit older (but not 30) with amazing service. I really like her.

And to finish Arielle of XO, like Bianka, does not up charge CIM. Nice.

Cheers,

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2650816]On a positive note Elly has returned to XO. She is a bomb. Like the stars Kate, Heaven, Arielle and some others very beautiful and with an amazing attitude.

Becky has also returned to XO. She's like Bianka. A bit older (but not 30) with amazing service. I really like her.

And to finish Arielle of XO, like Bianka, does not up charge CIM. Nice.

Cheers,[/QUOTE]I noticed many additions to XO's line up. I wish they would agree to Outcalls, I'd love to spend time with these young ladies in my hotel room.

[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2650884]I noticed many additions to XO's line up. I wish they would agree to Outcalls, I'd love to spend time with these young ladies in my hotel room.[/QUOTE]XO will do outcall. Maybe not all the girl but most will do. They have refused you? Next time call and ask if you could speak to Sam. Pretty sure he will fix it for you.

Many addition to XO and Euphoria. I will know shortly a bit more about them. I just know that Riley is already out of Euphoria. Or maybe they only book her to their VIP. I saw a pic of her and tough ho my god this one won't last long. She is just perfect. A big shot guy will grap her in exclusivity.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2651131]XO will do outcall. Maybe not all the girl but most will do. They have refused you? Next time call and ask if you could speak to Sam. Pretty sure he will fix it for you.

Many addition to XO and Euphoria. I will know shortly a bit more about them. I just know that Riley is already out of Euphoria. Or maybe they only book her to their VIP. I saw a pic of her and tough ho my god this one won't last long. She is just perfect. A big shot guy will grap her in exclusivity.[/QUOTE]Seems like each time I've asked they say the girl doesn't do Outcall. But then when I talk to the girl and I ask her she says yes, so I think you are right I need to try someone else.

I saw Riley's pic on Euphoria's site and she looked good, you saw a different pic? Each time she came up on the schedule she was already booked, at 10 pm each night mysteriously LOL. I guess VIP's get preference. Were you able to see her at all?

I think the website should add in detail of natural or enhanced breasts for each girl like other agencies do. Sometimes it's hard to tell if the girl has natural breasts or not.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2650246]Not at all. It was just a comment about something racist I had heard while working in the USA (before covid I would go to the US pretty much each month for work). The mod decided that it was racist.

To be fair I have highly liberal values.[/QUOTE]Never in my life online have I seen mods as intrusive and dictatorial as the ones over on the green board. It's entirely ridiculous. But look, this is all a bit of a crazy business, so no surprised those moderating something like that might be a little off themselves.

[QUOTE=DethManRulz;2652144]Never in my life online have I seen mods as intrusive and dictatorial as the ones over on the green board. It's entirely ridiculous. But look, this is all a bit of a crazy business, so no surprised those moderating something like that might be a little off themselves.[/QUOTE]Yes, the mods there will mix it up with members over petty stuff. They like to have their presence known. I'm not even talking about just the escort reviews. I'm talking about everywhere.

Beware of the reviews as well. There are a couple guys there who seem to be able to sample the new girls from the major agencies. They tend to write glowing reviews to get new girls started. It also helps them to maintain their first position with the agencies. Best to book a girl that has a range of consistent reviews. Or even better follow the advice of our trusted ISG members here.

[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2651237]Seems like each time I've asked they say the girl doesn't do Outcall. But then when I talk to the girl and I ask her she says yes, so I think you are right I need to try someone else.

I saw Riley's pic on Euphoria's site and she looked good, you saw a different pic? Each time she came up on the schedule she was already booked, at 10 pm each night mysteriously LOL. I guess VIP's get preference. Were you able to see her at all?[/QUOTE]It's much easier for them to schedule incal. That is why. But if you are in a nice hotel downtown let them know. Just be prepared to be the girl last booking and / or book 90 minutes that helps.

I saw Riley's full pic (do not ask how and if I can share. It's no) but was not able to book her yet. I am definitely no VIP so my chances are slim.

She looks a bit like this actress on this particular pic: [URL]https://images.complex.com/complex/images/c_fill[/URL], dpr_auto, f_auto, q_auto, w_1400/ fl_lossy, pg_1/ lxdyhp3 ul5 siofjuowgo / victoria-pedretti? Fimg-client.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2652259]It's much easier for them to schedule incal. That is why. But if you are in a nice hotel downtown let them know. Just be prepared to be the girl last booking and / or book 90 minutes that helps.

I saw Riley's full pic (do not ask how and if I can share. It's no) but was not able to book her yet. I am definitely no VIP so my chances are slim.

She looks a bit like this actress on this particular pic: [URL]https://images.complex.com/complex/images/c_fill[/URL], dpr_auto, f_auto, q_auto, w_1400/ fl_lossy, pg_1/ lxdyhp3 ul5 siofjuowgo / victoria-pedretti? Fimg-client.[/QUOTE]That's what I figured, either first client in the morning or last at night to get an outcall. We'll see next time I'm in town, I'm waiting for them to reopen restaurants to head back.

What about Sienna or Yana? Same story with them, always fully booked by 10 pm. And what is going on with Euphoria's roster? I see it's gotten smaller over the last few weeks, some girls have departed and new ones are added but not a lot of photos, some don't look as good. I'm curious about Erika, Amara or Angie, any intel?

[QUOTE=DethManRulz;2652144]Never in my life online have I seen mods as intrusive and dictatorial as the ones over on the green board. It's entirely ridiculous. But look, this is all a bit of a crazy business, so no surprised those moderating something like that might be a little off themselves.[/QUOTE]You are absolutely correct, mods there have allowed a small group of left wing crazies to dominate the board.

It has become a very political left wing board, I have stopped posting there, basically I don't need them anyway I can get enough referrals from the Indies I know.

Same old story give a security guard a uniform and he thinks he is the chief of the FBI.

[QUOTE=Hacsek;2654415]Same old story give a security guard a uniform and he thinks he is the chief of the FBI.[/QUOTE]Are you speaking to James Comey or Robert Mueller? LOL.

[QUOTE=Hacsek;2654415]You are absolutely correct, mods there have allowed a small group of left wing crazies to dominate the board.

It has become a very political left wing board, I have stopped posting there, basically I don't need them anyway I can get enough referrals from the Indies I know.

Same old story give a security guard a uniform and he thinks he is the chief of the FBI.[/QUOTE]I'm not actually talking about their politics (I don't engage in that stuff there, too many idiots on the right and the left) - I'm talking about the mods tendency to over-curate the comments in every thread. From comment length to the minutest bit of content. If they decide something isn't relevant, they will delete. If they decide your response is one sentence too long, they will edit / delete. It goes on.

[QUOTE=DethManRulz;2654664]I'm not actually talking about their politics (I don't engage in that stuff there, too many idiots on the right and the left) - I'm talking about the mods tendency to over-curate the comments in every thread. From comment length to the minutest bit of content. If they decide something isn't relevant, they will delete. If they decide your response is one sentence too long, they will edit / delete. It goes on.[/QUOTE]Yes, they're absurd.

[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2654081]That's what I figured, either first client in the morning or last at night to get an outcall. We'll see next time I'm in town, I'm waiting for them to reopen restaurants to head back.

What about Sienna or Yana? Same story with them, always fully booked by 10 pm. And what is going on with Euphoria's roster? I see it's gotten smaller over the last few weeks, some girls have departed and new ones are added but not a lot of photos, some don't look as good. I'm curious about Erika, Amara or Angie, any intel?[/QUOTE]Sienna and Yana they get booked very fast.

I do not have much info on new Euphoria ones. I am a bit out of the loop as I only saw Arielle or Kate of XO in the last few months.

And to be honest I might keep seeing only them as long as they work.

These 2 girls love what they do. They love sex. They were built for sex. They are in their prime for sex haha.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2655062]Sienna and Yana they get booked very fast.

I do not have much info on new Euphoria ones. I am a bit out of the loop as I only saw Arielle or Kate of XO in the last few months.

And to be honest I might keep seeing only them as long as they work.

These 2 girls love what they do. They love sex. They were built for sex. They are in their prime for sex haha.[/QUOTE]I've missed Arielle on all my trips, so I will put her at the top of my list then. I haven't made a her a priority. I really just want to see Sabrina and Bianka from XO again. I got a text over the weekend telling me that Bianka was available, it pained me to say I was not in town, otherwise I'the see her again in a heartbeat. I know she's been around awhile, but sometimes you find a provider that just does it for you.

My top girls currently are.

Eleonore at Vog.

Sabrina at XO.

Bianka at Xo.

Kate at XO.

Laura at Vog.

[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2655115]I've missed Arielle on all my trips, so I will put her at the top of my list then. I haven't made a her a priority. I really just want to see Sabrina and Bianka from XO again. I got a text over the weekend telling me that Bianka was available, it pained me to say I was not in town, otherwise I'the see her again in a heartbeat. I know she's been around awhile, but sometimes you find a provider that just does it for you.

My top girls currently are.

Eleonore at Vog.

Sabrina at XO..[/QUOTE]Saw Bianka a few years ago. I remember as she was blindfold for the first 30 minutes She is super cool. Great girl.

You should see her friend Becky. She's like her really like sex. About same age. Becky is often not advertised you need to ask the booker.

Meryem and Sabrina at xo are amazing, I got multiple greek sessions with both, and even discussed a DP with Sabrina (hard to organize 3 people's schedules for this, but hopefully will do it soon).

Sabrina's booty was made for s3 x. She's a goddess IMHO.

Meryem is also very intense. Perfect for this job.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2655062]Sienna and Yana they get booked very fast.
[/QUOTE]They're pre-booked! No chance to book them at all if you're a normal person.

Who's this Becky you referred to? I don't see a Becky on the Euphoria or XO roster.

[QUOTE=DethManRulz;2655564]They're pre-booked! No chance to book them at all if you're a normal person.[/QUOTE]I'm not a normal person. That's why I'm here.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2655815]I'm not a normal person. That's why I'm here.[/QUOTE]Still too normal to book Yana though LOL.

[QUOTE=DethManRulz;2655564]They're pre-booked! No chance to book them at all if you're a normal person.

Who's this Becky you referred to? I don't see a Becky on the Euphoria or XO roster.[/QUOTE]Becky is not listed at all. I think they do list her on Merb's add only to let know her regular she's working. But if you ask the booker and she's free it will be fine. I really liked her.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2655815]I'm not a normal person. That's why I'm here.[/QUOTE]Good one.

But it's also because you know.

You are probably better then average joe to book the best girl upon your trip because. (Let me guess here. Let me know if I'm right or totally missed it):

- you call instead of text.

- you try pre-booking even for agency that normally don't (like euphoria. I pre-book so often with them).

- you ask the booker what do you have to do to get X or why girl.

- you accept the proposed plan be of booker if plan a gets canceled.

- you book more then one hour.

- you give a lot of lattitude in your booking time to booker.

- you accept and never complain about all the last minute delay / cancellation, etc.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2657900]Good one.

But it's also because you know.

You are probably better then average joe to book the best girl upon your trip because. (Let me guess here. Let me know if I'm right or totally missed it):

- you call instead of text.

- you try pre-booking even for agency that normally don't (like euphoria. I pre-book so often with them).

- you ask the booker what do you have to do to get X or why girl.

- you accept the proposed plan be of booker if plan a gets canceled.

- you book more then one hour.

- you give a lot of lattitude in your booking time to booker.

- you accept and never complain about all the last minute delay / cancellation, etc.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]Good points. I never tried calling to book before, the only time I spoke to an agency is when Vog called about a cancellation and the booker (lady) was very friendly. I might try next time though. Euphoria seems friendly enough over text, XO is more cut and dry though.

[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2657993]Good points. I never tried calling to book before, the only time I spoke to an agency is when Vog called about a cancellation and the booker (lady) was very friendly. I might try next time though. Euphoria seems friendly enough over text, XO is more cut and dry though.[/QUOTE]When you have very specific girl calling is magic. The booker needs to make decision on the spot on a call. Best is about 8 pm a day before for agency going day by day (no schedule).

[QUOTE=RafiXo;2646880]I saw below girls from XO agency's current roaster. Incall location is downtown. Booking process was through text messages.

Arielle: I believe, she has Algerian background and currently in her late 20's. Facially, I found her above average. She has great fit body. Very service oriented girl. After I took my shower, I saw she was waiting for me in the bed in a nice lingerie. We started immediately with DFK and then slowly progressed through BBBJ and Full Service. Overall, great encounter with her.

Bianka: She started in this industry about 10+ years ago and currently, I think in her late 30's. Facially, I found her good looking. She has slim body with few tattoos and enhanced boobs. This girl definitely knows how to talk and also how to provide great GFE service. She is a keeper.

Elizabeth: Facially, she has GND looks. Probably, in her late 20's. I was little disappointed when I saw her. She was little bit on healthier side and that is not really my type. She was very eager to please but honestly, I was not that interested. So, I finished the session early within 35 minutes.

Estelle: She looks very young and cute. Has very nice body too. No tattoos. I would say her service was average. She was having some trouble with different positions.

Evelyn: She has European background and for sure a head-turner. I found her little bit lazy in bed though and I had to do all the work. The highlight of our session was we did greek.

Harley: Facially, I found her very good looking and young. She has very nice pair of 32 the natural boobs. She gave me great GFE Service. I have repeated with her several times.

Kate: She has German background and currently in her late 20's. Facially, she looks very hot and very nice to talk to. Her service is more PSE than GFE. The highlight of our session was receiving Rimming from her.

Olivia: Facially, she is not really my type. Has GND looks. Her body is fit but noticed several tattoos. She has prior experience working in a massage parlor and so, I also took a massage from her after we finished.

Sabrina: She has Moroccan background and probably, in her early 20's. Facially I found her very GND. She has very nice fit body with big ass. She was very eager to please and I had overall good time with her. The highlight of our session was lot of DFK.[/QUOTE]I chuckled when I read that wrote "I found her little bit lazy in bed though and I had to do all the work. " followed by "The highlight of our session was we did greek. ".

That's a trade-off I'll take any day!

[QUOTE=RafiXo;2646880]Bianka: She started in this industry about 10+ years ago and currently, I think in her late 30's. Facially, I found her good looking. She has slim body with few tattoos and enhanced boobs. This girl definitely knows how to talk and also how to provide great GFE service. She is a keeper.[/QUOTE]No Bianka is in her early 30's. Great girl indeed. Note that both Bianka and Becky are very similar girl that provide amazing service. Both are often not listed on XO website you need to ask to see them.

Had three sessions when I visited in December recently.

Saw Kourtney of Euphoria, Rachel of Euphoria, and also saw Lina from XO.

Ironically hadn't been on a sex trip in a while so had some nervousness / performance issues getting up more than once in an hour but all three were quite fun.

Rachel looks quite amazing body wise, got really soft skin but an incredible ass and her tits look great too. She works super hard and her oral skills are top notch. Only thing I disliked a bit was her face looks rather weird, almost like she has a large forehead but something else. If not for that she'd be a 10, but her body and sex was quite good. Only annoying part was booker took a while to let me in losing ten minutes on a 90 minute booking and I left after finishing twice with 15 minutes left on my 90 (so I stayed for about an hour total after the ten minute delay). Chemistry was weaker though than I'm used to, felt a bit like she was disinterested and just spent time casually vaping between rounds which I have no issue with, but made her come off a bit aloof. Probably wouldn't repeat despite how hot she is.

Kourtney was more of a PSE style experience, really enjoyed things rougher and really sweet personality good for conversation between rounds. A little bigger than I'd expected at first, but after you take her in you realize she's just really curvy but in a short frame. Would repeat though I would consider trying other girls first (still need to find time to see Elie at some point who is one of my ATF!

Lina was definitely a highlight of the trip, still looks as amazing as ever and her skills and my chemistry with her were still top notch. Super fit body, incredible oral skills especially BLS and her routine is consistently such a fun process as she goes from teasing you and I let her have control till I flip the switch and dominate her afterwards. Lots of saliva and deep action. Wish I'd booked 2-3 hours with her but it was the last day of my trip and I'd just done 90 minutes which was not enough. Would 100% repeat as an ATF.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2651131]XO will do outcall. Maybe not all the girl but most will do. They have refused you? Next time call and ask if you could speak to Sam. Pretty sure he will fix it for you.

Many addition to XO and Euphoria. I will know shortly a bit more about them. I just know that Riley is already out of Euphoria. Or maybe they only book her to their VIP. I saw a pic of her and tough ho my god this one won't last long. She is just perfect. A big shot guy will grap her in exclusivity.[/QUOTE]Back in Nov. / December, xo told me they are not doing outcall. This was definitely also when a uber took like 15-20 min to get one.

On one occasion one night, I happened to want a girl late, and she was incall only of course. I asked how about if it was the end of her shift, after knowing of where I am, she agreed. When she was over I learned she agreed to it as she lives in the area.

After, her uber to leave took forever and she decided to walk home.

I asked why she won't do outs, she said its a complete waste of time for her.


i wouldn't mind being able to get a kate to do a outcall.

Ellie of Euphoria i am told, is in call only as well.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2650259]Kate did confess to me she likes it when it's a bit nasty. Therefore the pse side resurface quickly. She is in my opinion the girl to see in Montreal if you like it a bit on the nastier side. That said she's so pretty that pure GFE vanilla session will suit her, and you, just fine for those who prefer that.[/QUOTE]LOL she going to let me tie her up and do her?

[QUOTE=Kabukicho;2666218]LOL she going to let me tie her up and do her?[/QUOTE]Kate and at least one other XO girl do gangbangs from time to time on the weekends. So yeah, they like it nasty.

[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2655115]I've missed Arielle on all my trips, so I will put her at the top of my list then. I haven't made a her a priority. I really just want to see Sabrina and Bianka from XO again. I got a text over the weekend telling me that Bianka was available, it pained me to say I was not in town, otherwise I'the see her again in a heartbeat. I know she's been around awhile, but sometimes you find a provider that just does it for you.

My top girls currently are.

Eleonore at Vog.


[/QUOTE]For anyone who may know, how is she facially? She goes as as far as being fully booked sometimes.

[QUOTE=DethManRulz;2666341]Kate and at least one other XO girl do gangbangs from time to time on the weekends. So yeah, they like it nasty.[/QUOTE]Not on the week-end it's during the week. I went to the 2 she did It was just unbelievable.

And to answer Kabukicho yes I do think Kate would let you tie her up. Not sure what kinks she does or not. But I do know she can go nasty. I've seen it.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2666791]Not on the week-end it's during the week. I went to the 2 she did It was just unbelievable.

And to answer Kabukicho yes I do think Kate would let you tie her up. Not sure what kinks she does or not. But I do know she can go nasty. I've seen it.[/QUOTE]So does she offer greek through XO or is this only when she does gangbangs? Greek with real German girls is something special in my FKK experience.

I spent another week in Montreal last week, once I saw restaurants were back open I decided to book and I had a great time once again. I love this amazing city and their amazing girls.

I've settled in staying in hotels near the same area near St. Catherine St by the Des Jardins Mall and close enough to Old Montreal. This time I picked the AC Hotel, Its very conveniently located with many good restaurants and close to many agency incalls. I never have issues waiting for girls at the lobby and we just walk up to the elevator and to my room, no issues at all.

Weather was a bit messy outside with melting snow, rain and a couple of days it snowed pretty hard, but I still had time to go out and explore a bit. I visited a few restaurants, Kyo Sushi, Chiffa, Les Pyrenees (awesome Spanish paella) and Iberica (Spanish as well) and they were delicious, I recommend them. I also went out walking during the day when the sun was out. I can't wait for summer, Montreal is going to be rocking by then.

I wanted to see some girls I rate high in my to do list, like Bianka at XO and also meet Becky at XO as recommended by member Jalimon2, unfortunately Becky cancelled on two separate occasions, and Bianka cancelled on the last day I was there. A chance to meet Elly at XO came up as well, but only on the day after I left, so that was also a no go. I decided to call the bookers this time, and sure enough we built good rapport and things seemed better, except the girls kept having issues and the booker did seem sorry about it and tried to make it up the best he could, I wasn't mad at all, I think the agencies are great.

With that being said, there were 2 events that highlighted my trip and made it memorable:

First, I was able to go out to dinner with a girl I had a session with in a prior trip, we'll call her Ashley. She is a 25 year old gal of European descent with a beautiful face and curves in the right places. We had great chemistry in our session and so I got her number, we messaged a few times and decided to meet at a local restaurant for dinner. The food was great, and our conversation was on point, we really hit it off. We decided to head back to my hotel, open a bottle of wine, and let our instincts do the rest. Wow. From the moment we started kissing and reached the bed, we were onto each other non stop. I ate her delicious body for an eternity, then she returned the favor, and we made love like passionate lovers for the entire night. We would bang for about an hour, then rest a bit and then go at it again. Crazy chemistry, I lost count of how many pops I had, it was more than four LOL. I'm glad I had taken a little vitamin earlier in the day. She said she never had so many orgasms in a day, I think she was being generous LOL. We finally fell asleep around 5 am, then we woke up at 8 and went at it one last time. We never talked about money, this was an actual date, but before she left, I did give her a gift. It was hard to see her leave, we actually stopped at the door and started kissing again with passion, I almost undressed her again LOL. So I had an actual girlfriend experience, way beyond others I've had before. I hope to see her again, we were both sad to part ways.

Second, I met a middle eastern girl at a sushi restaurant near my hotel, and as it turns out she was a working girl or maybe a SB? I got her number and we messaged to meet at a different day. She came over, I opened a bottle of wine, and soon enough we started passionately kissing. I had a pretty nice suite with a separate living room, so when we moved to bed we left everything behind in the couch, including her bag with the covers LOL. Once naked in bed, I started eating her out and she was going crazy, she was super wet and horny, her pussy tasted great and her ass was marvelous. She claims she is 20, I think she might be 23, but her body was slim and curvy, with small be cups and a big ass, I would say her face is attractive but not beautiful. We have great chemistry, and her DFK is one of the best I've experienced, eventually with all the foreplay I couldn't resist and I simply just went for it and placed my bare little friend deep inside her, she moaned and inhaled deeply while opening her eyes wide open like wondering if we were really going to do it bare but then she just grabbed me to kiss me more and I continued stroking bare inside her. I think she realized we were not going to stop to go grab covers, in my head I was like hell yeah!. OMG it was hard to resist not blowing my load deep inside her, but I resisted. From there on we switched many positions, until I couldn't take it anymore and while on missionary with her bomb DFK I barely had enough time to pull out and give her my first load in her mouth. After a little recovery we banged another 2 hours, all bare and 2 more pops, until she had to go. All this for a gift of 500 roses. Amazing time and amazing find.

I also saw the following agency girls, I enjoyed all of them!

Leila at VOG: Short girl but cute and big natural tits, she is a nice girl, really friendly and she got into me. Pussy looks great with a bit of hair. Not a clock watcher, good conversation and nice young body. I think her kisses are a bit soft for my taste but her attitude is nice and she stayed a bit past her time, I would repeat.

Charlie at VOG: She is a tall redhead with very pale skin and long legs. Started a bit slow and distant, but warmed up after. Friends with Juliette at Euphoria and Leila at VOG. Ok BBBJ, pretty eyes. Great pussy lips, tasted great. I was a bit tired, last session of the day, but still enjoyable. Repeat? Maybe.

Leah at XO: (Outcall) Great spinner body with nice natural tits and yummy ass, tight waist. Half Brazilian half Canadian? Her face was cute. Started a bit chatty to warm up and drank wine, once we started kissing and went to bed she was very turned on and into it. She likes it a bit rough, and gives a great BBBJ. Her pussy lips are fat and yummy, she tastes great and she likes getting eaten, she lets you eat her good, and likes DATO too. I gave it to her rough and she loved it, moaned a lot and got very wet. She said I fucked her up, I slapped her ass a lot, pulled her hair. She finished me with her mouth on 69, her BBBJ is sloppy and great. We had a lot of action and caused her to go over time, not a clock watcher. I will repeat for sure.

Rym at XO: She is a tall, curvy girl with a pretty face. Big tits and ass, not a spinner or fit body, but she has a lot of potential if you like thick and curvy girls. Her moans were a big turn on. Her pussy wasn't completely shaved, but she tasted great. She started a bit slow but we had good chemistry, so the session got better as we went on. I noticed her kissing was a bit light at first, but eventually evolved into DFK. The view while on K9 was great, and my release was good. Repeat? Maybe.

Arielle at XO: I finally saw Arielle, for 90 min. She is definitely a spinner with great legs and pretty face. Innocent smile, soft voice and intelligent. Her face is highlighted by her pretty eyes and her cute nose. Her attitude is very caring, she hugged me a lot, treated me with tenderness and passion. I had a good time during DATY, she got very wet and possibly finished. We had a lot of action, we were sweating a lot, tried many positions until I finished with CIM and she swallowed with a smile. Super friendly, definitely GFE+. I can see why she's popular, and I would see her again, but I think I prefer girls that can take charge from time to time and have a stronger character in them.

Kimberly at XO: Beautiful blonde white girl, great enhanced DDs with small nipples. Pretty face, slim waist and great ass & legs. Just my type, when it comes down to looks, I mean this girl is perfect for me. The thing is her service is not great, not great on BBBJ and only pecks as kisses, but a beautiful girl to enjoy. So beautiful that I popped twice in an hour even though she doesn't kiss much, but that body is worth it for me. I think with time she could be trained to do what you want, I would certainly like to try.

Lina at XO: She has a great body, to me her face is not very attractive, she is mixed Asian with Russian, and didn't wear any makeup or fixed up her hair, kind of glad the room was a bit dark to be honest. However, her skin is nice and soft, she has great hygiene, and that body is hard. Her attitude is great and she provides passionate kissing. She's a bit limited in English and a little awkward in her personality, but when it comes down to the action she performs very well. I finished all over her breasts and belly, and it was a good session. I would repeat, but wouldn't be a top choice.

Kate at XO: I saw her again, she seems even hotter than last time. I think this girl is a sex machine, that face with her square jaw, her smile and that sexy body is too much to resist. I told her I had fucked a bunch of girls that week, and she took it as a challenge to see how much more I had in me. Well, we banged hard for the full hour, until I fucked her hard while on lazy dog and I grabbed her by her neck and went as deep as I could, she was yelling loud and that bed felt like it was going to break LOL. She exhaled in pleasure and finished, then asked me for a break, I still didn't finish until the hour was almost up. I would love to see her more often, with girls like Kate you don't need anyone else. She recommended me an independent girl she said she likes, Katrina Vienna, she said if she was a guy she would fuck her often LOL. You got to love Kate.

My favorite girl Eleonore was on vacation, and like I said before I missed Bianka and Becky, but I scored big with my restaurant pickup and my dinner date turned into an overnight like the ones I've only experienced in Brazil. I love Montreal, I can't wait until summer to enjoy going to bars and banging until the morning hours again.

Until next time!

EB.

[QUOTE=Sedition;2670789]So does she offer greek through XO or is this only when she does gangbangs? Greek with real German girls is something special in my FKK experience.[/QUOTE]There is rumor she did it in gb. I kind of trust the guy that reported it. But she refused it in the 2 events I did.

My take is, like many, she will do it once in a while. When it suits them. Which is fine.

[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2671027]I spent another week in Montreal last week, once I saw restaurants were back open I decided to book and I had a great time once again. I love this amazing city and their amazing girls.[/QUOTE]Such a nice report!

Sorry that Bianka and Becky both were unreliable. Some contact reported the same recently so yes they are.

Glad you like Arielle. I do too.

And well yes Kate is a definite sex machine. Just built for it. Which is. Perfectly fine haha.

[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2671027]I spent another week in Montreal last week, once I saw restaurants were back open I decided to book and I had a great time once again. I love this amazing city and their amazing girls.

I've settled in staying in hotels near the same area near St. Catherine St by the Des Jardins Mall and close enough to Old Montreal. This time I picked the AC Hotel, Its very conveniently located with many good restaurants and close to many agency incalls. I never have issues waiting for girls at the lobby and we just walk up to the elevator and to my room, no issues at all.

Weather was a bit messy outside with melting snow, rain and a couple of days it snowed pretty hard, but I still had time to go out and explore a bit. I visited a few restaurants, Kyo Sushi, Chiffa, Les Pyrenees (awesome Spanish paella) and Iberica (Spanish as well) and they were delicious, I recommend them. I also went out walking during the day when the sun was out. I can't wait for summer, Montreal is going to be rocking by then.

I wanted to see some girls I rate high in my to do list, like Bianka at XO and also meet Becky at XO as recommended by member Jalimon2, unfortunately Becky cancelled on two separate occasions, and Bianka cancelled on the last day I was there. A chance to meet Elly at XO came up as well, but only on the day after I left, so that was also a no go. I decided to call the bookers this time, and sure enough we built good rapport and things seemed better, except the girls kept having issues and the booker did seem sorry about it and tried to make it up the best he could, I wasn't mad at all, I think the agencies are great.[/QUOTE]Fantastic report.

Just inspired me to extend my vacation trip early April to be a full 5-6 days vs my original 3-4 day plan.

[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2671027]I wanted to see some girls I rate high in my to do list, like Bianka at XO and also meet Becky at XO as recommended by member Jalimon2, unfortunately Becky cancelled on two separate occasions, and Bianka cancelled on the last day I was there. A chance to meet Elly at XO came up as well, but only on the day after I left, so that was also a no go..[/QUOTE]I had a cancellation by Becky as well when I tried to see her many months ago. Seem she is great when you do manage to be with her, but getting to actually meet her in the part that is hard.

Saw Bianka many many years ago twice, was great, would like to see her again for sure.

Elly at Xo is one of the best ever, both look and kinkiness and all. A must.

[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2671027]I spent another week in Montreal last week, once I saw restaurants were back open I decided to book and I had a great time once again. I love this amazing city and their amazing girls.[/QUOTE]EB,

You are logging in some serious mongering time in Montreal. I do believe we both prefer Brazil over Montreal, but enjoy both destinations.

My question for you is if Brazilian working girls are a 10 (as the benchmark) for looks, attitude and performance, how would you score Montreal escorts against that 10 scale? If anyone else here who has experience in both destinations wants to answer, that's cool.

I like to hear other's opinions. Ignore how easy it is to get to Montreal. That's the big trade-off for me. I can drop into Montreal for a long weekend. It's hard to get the time I want to go to Brazil unless I am lucky enough to be sent there for work. I enjoy Montreal, Sao Paulo and Rio culturally so that's not an issue. Please disregard the costs of travel and the cost for sessions.

When I was in Montreal right before COVID, I found the MTL top agency escorts I selected to be every bit as hot as the Brazilian working girls at the top Brazilian venues if not more. The attitude of the Montreal escorts I met was fine. Performance was the big difference. The performance of Brazilian working girls is sublime.

Thanks for your reports.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2674758]EB,

You are logging in some serious mongering time in Montreal. I do believe we both prefer Brazil over Montreal, but enjoy both destinations.

My question for you is if Brazilian working girls are a 10 (as the benchmark) for looks, attitude and performance, how would you score Montreal escorts against that 10 scale? If anyone else here who has experience in both destinations wants to answer, that's cool.

I like to hear other's opinions. Ignore how easy it is to get to Montreal. That's the big trade-off for me. I can drop into Montreal for a long weekend. It's hard to get the time I want to go to Brazil unless I am lucky enough to be sent there for work. I enjoy Montreal, Sao Paulo and Rio culturally so that's not an issue. Please disregard the costs of travel and the cost for sessions.

When I was in Montreal right before COVID, I found the MTL top agency escorts I selected to be every bit as hot as the Brazilian working girls at the top Brazilian venues if not more. The attitude of the Montreal escorts I met was fine. Performance was the big difference. The performance of Brazilian working girls is sublime.

Thanks for your reports.[/QUOTE]What started as a trip just to change things up has suddenly become a frequent adventure. I only wanted to check Montreal once or twice, but like you mentioned, because of how easy it is to go I keep going back. Also, to me I've found that my preference in girls is white girls, or light skinned, so for this reason once again Montreal plays to my desires, although Brazil has such a heavy European influence that I have no problem finding my share of white girls.

I've found that I get GFE or PSE service in Montreal, with French kissing and most recently passionate girls just like in Brazil. I think what makes it different is the setting. In Brazil there's something about going to a club and interacting with the girl prior to taking her, like a conquest. I think it turns the girl on too, and this deliver better services. To me in the club you're not the only one looking for the right girl, she's also looking for the right client.

But as I start t to spend more time in Montreal the gap closes more and more. Unless I find a couple of girls willing to do the dating type I will go back to Brazil as soon as I can. I miss the Latina flavor LOL. That's not to say I put Montreal behind, I just think it's different. One thing I haven't got in Montreal is the same level of enjoyment for anal sex, Brazilian girls are more open to it. Also, BBFS is not easy in Montreal. If you care for that, Brazil is the way to go IMO.

As far as scores, that’s even harder to decide. I’m a picky guy, and I’ve fucked girls as high as a 9 in Brazil, haven’t got a 10 yet. In Montreal, I think I’ve scored as high as 8.5, so pretty close I would say. Service wise, it’s a tie for me, with anal as the deal breaker. If you don’t care for it, it’s a tie.

[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2675128]What started as a trip just to change things up has suddenly become a frequent adventure. I only wanted to check Montreal once or twice, but like you mentioned, because of how easy it is to go I keep going back. Also, to me I've found that my preference in girls is white girls, or light skinned, so for this reason once again Montreal plays to my desires, although Brazil has such a heavy European influence that I have no problem finding my share of white girls.

I've found that I get GFE or PSE service in Montreal, with French kissing and most recently passionate girls just like in Brazil. I think what makes it different is the setting. In Brazil there's something about going to a club and interacting with the girl prior to taking her, like a conquest. I think it turns the girl on too, and this deliver better services. To me in the club you're not the only one looking for the right girl, she's also looking for the right client.

But as I start t to spend more time in Montreal the gap closes more and more. Unless I find a couple of girls willing to do the dating type I will go back to Brazil as soon as I can. I miss the Latina flavor LOL. That's not to say I put Montreal behind, I just think it's different. One thing I haven't got in Montreal is the same level of enjoyment for anal sex, Brazilian girls are more open to it. Also, BBFS is not easy in Montreal. If you care for that, Brazil is the way to go IMO..[/QUOTE]The good synopsis. I knew you would bring up the advantage of Brazilian venues whether it be clubs or a more daytime, early evening venue. All allow you to select a girl from several or many. It is fun and exciting to do the Brazilian hooker clubs. It's literally a night out with some flirting and foreplay. Can't really go to a mongering venue like that in Canada.

If I am scoring, I would give Montreal escorts an 8 to 8.5 versus a 10 for Brazilian working girls. (Don't bust my balls about a 10 score. 10 is just a benchmark to grade against.) Yes, I have traveled all over the world and Brazilian working girls are by far the best.

Almost all Brazilian girls are passionately all over you with DFK. Sometimes even before you have selected them at the club. Unfortunately, I have received a lot of LFK from some MTL escorts. Everything Blue, I'm guessing you are in your 30's or 40's. Young Montreal escorts can still imagine you as a partner.

Anal is offered by an exceptionally high percentage of Brazilian girls. As far as the girl is concerned, this is just part of the service. Now I said cost should not be a consideration, but it's nice to just know anal is available without negotiation. The last thing is if I see a Brazilian girl outside a venue most of them are not clock watchers. This goes for some hourly escorts as well. If they dig your vibe, time literally slows down with them.

Having said that, I love the Montreal scene especially in the summer.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2675149]Having said that, I love the Montreal scene especially in the summer.[/QUOTE]That's a very important sentence. Montreal in the summer is different. You walk down the streets of popular area and you can smell sex. Never got that in any other American cities except perhaps Miami and well off course New Orleans.

Never been to Brazil. But saw many Brazilian girl in Spain. They are my type of girls. One day I will make it to Brazil and Colombia.

But well I live in Montreal and because I have 2 kids who cost me a fortune I cannot munger much elsewhere. Kids are expensive. Especially if they play competitive sports.

Keep on writing guys it's cool to read.

I hate driving downtown, parking, hotel fees for cars, etc. Usually go to Toronto and stay near the airport. But plan to return to Montreal. Have a whole website about Montreal sexwork but was done in 2000 - the last time I was there.

I am debating forgetting renting a car and just using Uber Airport to DT hotel to DT incalls and Massage places. I see one report on this thread that took a long time to get an Uber. But that was early this year perhaps more COVID-related.

I assume my US Uber app will work in Montreal it worked great in Germany in 2019.

So am I crazy about not renting a car but depending on Uber? I am planning to stay a week in Montreal.

[QUOTE=DavePhx;2675331]I hate driving downtown, parking, hotel fees for cars, etc. Usually go to Toronto and stay near the airport. But plan to return to Montreal. Have a whole website about Montreal sexwork but was done in 2000 - the last time I was there.

I am debating forgetting renting a car and just using Uber Airport to DT hotel to DT incalls and Massage places. I see one report on this thread that took a long time to get an Uber. But that was early this year perhaps more COVID-related.

I assume my US Uber app will work in Montreal it worked great in Germany in 2019.

So am I crazy about not renting a car but depending on Uber? I am planning to stay a week in Montreal.[/QUOTE]You're not crazy. I have not rented a car on any trip in Montreal, and the US Uber app works great. What I would say is you have to give yourself a little more time when calling it there vs the US. Not as many drivers are available, but I never had a problem being stuck anywhere. I use it from the airport to my hotel in downtown each time and it's fast there, by the way prices are more affordable than in the US too, Uber is the way to go. I bet we see an increase of drivers during summer too!

I can't wait until summer, like literally I might have to go up there soon again LOL. The honeys need help paying for their school and I must oblige!

[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2675372]You're not crazy. I have not rented a car on any trip in Montreal, and the US Uber app works great. What I would say is you have to give yourself a little more time when calling it there vs the US. Not as many drivers are available, but I never had a problem being stuck anywhere. I use it from the airport to my hotel in downtown each time and it's fast there, by the way prices are more affordable than in the US too, Uber is the way to go. I bet we see an increase of drivers during summer too!

I can't wait until summer, like literally I might have to go up there soon again LOL. The honeys need help paying for their school and I must oblige![/QUOTE]Hang on guys pretty soon the new electric train (the REM) will relay the airport to downtown (then down to south-shore so you guys can visit Katrina! In about 20 minutes. It should be in service by end of 2023.

Until then why not hop in bus 747 from the airport to subway stations Lionel Groulx? It cost much less and will most probably be faster then uber or cab. From that subway stations you can directly walk to XO incall (hehe) or get downtown a few stations to the east.

Cheers,

Planning a week long trip to Montreal on Business. Will be free on the weekend. Was wondering how the club scene is in Montreal.

Also, is Quebec city a good place for mongering? I don't speak french and most ads are in that language so need advise on whether it will be worth it to visit quebec city and any agency / indies you can recommend.

[QUOTE=Dealwader;2677582]Planning a week long trip to Montreal on Business. Will be free on the weekend. Was wondering how the club scene is in Montreal.

Also, is Quebec city a good place for mongering? I don't speak french and most ads are in that language so need advise on whether it will be worth it to visit quebec city and any agency / indies you can recommend.[/QUOTE]Montreal will keep you busy and happy over a weekend, for certain.

Join MERB and do your research, and you'll have a great time. Quebec is a smaller version of Montreal, in all regards. W / o knowing French, QC will be a challenge. Enjoy Mtl!

[QUOTE=Dealwader;2677582]Planning a week long trip to Montreal on Business. Will be free on the weekend. Was wondering how the club scene is in Montreal.

Also, is Quebec city a good place for mongering? I don't speak french and most ads are in that language so need advise on whether it will be worth it to visit quebec city and any agency / indies you can recommend.[/QUOTE]Old Quebec City is one of the most beautiful historic centers in North America if not the most beautiful.

If you are not going to QC for business or for the history, stay in Montreal for mongering. I think you can get by with only English in QC, but it's a small city so the pickins are small.

As far as the club scene, Montreal has very active nightlife. It's strictly civilian though. If you got game, Montreal women tend to be more friendlier than say NYC, Boston, etc. I'd say Montreal women are Midwestern friendly with a more liberal outlook towards sex. Of course, that's a generalization, but it only takes one or two women to make a trip.

[QUOTE=DavePhx;2675331]I hate driving downtown, parking, hotel fees for cars, etc. Usually go to Toronto and stay near the airport. But plan to return to Montreal. Have a whole website about Montreal sexwork but was done in 2000 - the last time I was there.

I am debating forgetting renting a car and just using Uber Airport to DT hotel to DT incalls and Massage places. I see one report on this thread that took a long time to get an Uber. But that was early this year perhaps more COVID-related.

I assume my US Uber app will work in Montreal it worked great in Germany in 2019.

So am I crazy about not renting a car but depending on Uber? I am planning to stay a week in Montreal.[/QUOTE]Since someone asked about Quebec City, I thought I would respond to your post mentioning TO and MTL. We know that the Toronto has a significantly larger escort scene than Montreal, but Montreal has more than enough agencies and girls. The escorts can be a bit more expensive in Toronto, but I think the slight difference should not discourage anyone from visiting this great city. The issue really is checking the Toronto agency schedules and finding escorts available where you are located. Toronto agency escorts routinely bounce around between downtown, the airport and the various suburbs. Sometimes a girl will be working in two or three locations throughout the week.

So in regards to Montreal, one can Uber for sure. I found that most of the time the Metro system more than sufficed for my sightseeing and mongering. Everything I wanted to do and that includes agency incall locations are near Metro stations. The agency incalls are mostly downtown. I also enjoy walking around Montreal. I only Uber late in the evening when I was tired of walking and not near enough to the Metro.

Quick answer: Don't rent a car. You also want to stay downtown in Montreal or perhaps at an AirBnB in one of the trendy neighborhoods bordering downtown. As Jalimon mentioned, the airport shuttle bus #747 is a real easy way to get back and forth between the airport and downtown. The shuttle ride is also included with certain multi-day Metro passes.

[URL]https://www.stm.info/en/info/networks/bus/shuttle/747-yul-montreal-trudeau-airport-downtown-shuttle[/URL]

[QUOTE=Dealwader;2677582]Planning a week long trip to Montreal on Business. Will be free on the weekend. Was wondering how the club scene is in Montreal.

Also, is Quebec city a good place for mongering? I don't speak french and most ads are in that language so need advise on whether it will be worth it to visit quebec city and any agency / indies you can recommend.[/QUOTE]Only Aventuriere ([URL]https://aventuriere.ca[/URL]) in Quebec city is truly worth it. They do have some great girl. You need to understand that many of their girl are traveling SP from Jonquiere, Gaspésie or other Quebec area. Most have limited English. They provide awesome services. Yet they are really hard to book. Most go away to local rich regular. You will have better luck in Montreal as the market is much bigger.

Sunday is not a good day in Montreal. Few girl works. Plan ahead!

[QUOTE=DavePhx;2675331]I hate driving downtown, parking, hotel fees for cars, etc. Usually go to Toronto and stay near the airport. But plan to return to Montreal. Have a whole website about Montreal sexwork but was done in 2000 - the last time I was there.

I am debating forgetting renting a car and just using Uber Airport to DT hotel to DT incalls and Massage places. I see one report on this thread that took a long time to get an Uber. But that was early this year perhaps more COVID-related.

I assume my US Uber app will work in Montreal it worked great in Germany in 2019.

So am I crazy about not renting a car but depending on Uber? I am planning to stay a week in Montreal.[/QUOTE]Hello the famous DavePhx. I read your site with much fascination back in the day.

I am shocked you merely stay close to the toronto pearson, please just take the handy clean several years established airport to downtown union station dedicated train ride of about 25 min and consider a stay downtown along / near queenstreet, just be a part of the night life area of downtown.

As for montreal yul into montreal downtown via uber, absolutely no problem presently. They are easily booked, 4 min and you can get one, as you said the issues are of the past. Past 9 pm at the airport, I can't say at this time.

I don't think that being said, have all the carriers reverted to offering a full schedule (I think not yet) to me it had appeared there are not many flights after 7 pm as there used to be.

Within the city, uber wait might be 12 min sometimes out of the core area. Like to lasalle or something, nothing to be of much inconvenience now any more for DT to plateau or mile end etc. There is no canadian specific version of the uber app.

unless you loathe? walking 12 blocks or 5 blocks as needed every few hours of the day or are so used to possibly being behind the wheel for phoenix life i dont see a need to rent a car/manage the thing while having it.

uber plus riding the handy local metro is fine. you get to be amongst the local people alot more instead of being secluded within your rental.

sooo many of the uber drivers are so sweet and kind.

[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2671027]I spent another week in Montreal last week, once I saw restaurants were back open I decided to book and I had a great time once again. I love this amazing city and their amazing girls.
Leila at VOG: Short girl but cute and big natural tits, she is a nice girl, really friendly and she got into me. Pussy looks great with a bit of hair. Not a clock watcher, good conversation and nice young body. I think her kisses are a bit soft for my taste but her attitude is nice and she stayed a bit past her time, I would repeat.

Charlie at VOG: She is a tall redhead with very pale skin and long legs. Started a bit slow and distant, but warmed up after. Friends with Juliette at Euphoria and Leila at VOG. Ok BBBJ, pretty eyes. Great pussy lips, tasted great. I was a bit tired, last session of the day, but still enjoyable. Repeat? Maybe.


EB.[/QUOTE]Thanks for report.

Leila, seen her a few times pre pandemic. Seen her 2 month ago, she has added pounds. Face rounder, a chin, little belly LOL. Her pussy has always been a bit meaty for my visual tastes.

Her O can be so strong as to lift herself off the sofa in a spasm. Not much vocally however.

Charlie, the hair are extensions, the pussy is pink, didn't appear as very smart but not dumb, several tattoos, looked less thin than vog photos, booty very prominent. Just a slight belly as well.

Looking to come back to Montreal from the US after the last couple years. Just want to make sure things are pretty much back to normal with the girls and with the city. I don't mind showing my vax card and testing to go thru customs but checking that its still worth it before I buy a ticket.

Also asking where to stay. Been told to stay in an Airbnb in the Plateau but want to make sure that's ok for incalls. I prefer Airbnb to hotels and want an interesting neighborhood to explore and eat.

Thanks in advance but as you can see from my posts, I am pretty good about reviewing girls and sharing info.

[QUOTE=StrawMan83;2679406]Looking to come back to Montreal from the US after the last couple years. Just want to make sure things are pretty much back to normal with the girls and with the city. I don't mind showing my vax card and testing to go thru customs but checking that its still worth it before I buy a ticket.

Also asking where to stay. Been told to stay in an Airbnb in the Plateau but want to make sure that's ok for incalls. I prefer Airbnb to hotels and want an interesting neighborhood to explore and eat.

Thanks in advance but as you can see from my posts, I am pretty good about reviewing girls and sharing info.[/QUOTE]An Airbnb in the Plateau is a sure thing. Some girl might ask you to still go incall but I think it's still best to stay on the Plateau. Try to find one close to Mount-Royal street to the north and st- Laurent to the west.

But an Airbnb on Notre-Dame griffintown area could be cool as well and then you would be close to agency thus easier for outcall.

Currently things are back to normal except having to wear a mask here and there. No biggie.

It's getting warmer now. Good time to come to horny Montreal.

[QUOTE=StrawMan83;2679406]Also asking where to stay. Been told to stay in an Airbnb in the Plateau but want to make sure that's ok for incalls. I prefer Airbnb to hotels and want an interesting neighborhood to explore and eat.[/QUOTE]I do recommend the LE Plateau neighborhood particularly near Rue St. Laurent for dining, drinking, etc.

The issue with the LE Plateau neighborhood Airbnb is that it is mostly a low-rise, residential community. I personally don't want to stay in a flat where the owner lives downstairs and I have girls walking up the stairs. So you have to look hard to find something else in LE Plateau if that doesn't work for you either.

On my last trip I stayed off of Rue Ste. Catherine which has a ton of drinking and dining options. I would jump on the Metro nearby to go to LE Plateau. The benefit is there are many Airbnb condos in high-rise buildings. These Airbnb condo owners generally just administer a portfolio of properties for income and don't live on-site.

I had Vogue incall escorts get dropped off and I met them in the lobby. I like meeting them downstairs when they arrive. In this building, there was no concierge and thus no need to register. I could have just had them come up and no one would have cared. The girls just looked like any attractive, young woman around town. Even if there is a concierge, these people see everything.

Thanks Jal & Wyatt. Great tips about location, I want to be able to get girls to incall. And definitely want to avoid Airbnb hosts. I'll be up there in late May. Can't wait.

[QUOTE=Kabukicho;2679066]Thanks for report.

Leila, seen her a few times pre pandemic. Seen her 2 month ago, she has added pounds. Face rounder, a chin, little belly LOL. Her pussy has always been a bit meaty for my visual tastes.

Her O can be so strong as to lift herself off the sofa in a spasm. Not much vocally however.

Charlie, the hair are extensions, the pussy is pink, didn't appear as very smart but not dumb, several tattoos, looked less thin than vog photos, booty very prominent. Just a slight belly as well.[/QUOTE]Thanks so much for sharing your experience with VOG and Euphoria. I have been wanting to try them. Do you know if they require reference or screening?

No screening required. One of the nice things about MTL.

[QUOTE=Suzhilang;2681906]Thanks so much for sharing your experience with VOG and Euphoria. I have been wanting to try them. Do you know if they require reference or screening?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HarvestBoi;2682097]No screening required. One of the nice things about MTL.[/QUOTE]Yep, all you have to do is show up on time with your money and no one will ever ask you your name.

[QUOTE=HarvestBoi;2682097]No screening required. One of the nice things about MTL.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I have been planning my 1st trip to MTL, and I can't wait.

For this trip, I would love to explore both agency girls and independence. While researching, I was surprised that independence girls charge a lot higher than agency. For the three most reviewed agency, the average for 1 HR is 240, but independence girls are asking 400+, which is as expensive as in the US.

[QUOTE=Suzhilang;2684315]While researching, I was surprised that independence girls charge a lot higher than agency. For the three most reviewed agency, the average for 1 HR is 240, but independence girls are asking 400+, which is as expensive as in the US.[/QUOTE]It seems that agency girls who generate a lot of buzz and have a loyal clientele often become independents. They then generally increase their rates. It has been discussed here before that legacy clients are likely grandfathered (pun intended you old geezers) at lower rates. An independent has the freedom to give regulars preferred rates.

There are two other things worth noting beyond the fact independent escorts usually have reviews detailing solid and consistent service. First, many Canadian independents reveal their faces all the way or just enough on their web pages and / or Twitter. Second, I've noticed many top Canadian independents do limited tours of Canada and sometimes the United States. That tells me that at their higher rates their might not be enough local demand to fill up their dance card every day.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2684475]It seems that agency girls who generate a lot of buzz and have a loyal clientele often become independents. They then generally increase their rates. It has been discussed here before that legacy clients are likely grandfathered (pun intended you old geezers) at lower rates. An independent has the freedom to give regulars preferred rates.

There are two other things worth noting beyond the fact independent escorts usually have reviews detailing solid and consistent service. First, many Canadian independents reveal their faces all the way or just enough on their web pages and / or Twitter. Second, I've noticed many top Canadian independents do limited tours of Canada and sometimes the United States. That tells me that at their higher rates their might not be enough local demand to fill up their dance card every day.[/QUOTE]That is completely correct pattern. Most of the top indy now have a regular base clientele here in Montreal. Not sure about grandfathered rate tho. I have been offered a few times but it never really worked.

These indy are now 400 or more but 500 or sometimes more in Toronto or Vancouver. So many travel often.

In my opinion if I was a traveler I would not bother. I would stick with agencies. They have a lot to offer at lower price. Better see them now before they become one of those high price indy.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2684727]That is completely correct pattern. Most of the top indy now have a regular base clientele here in Montreal. Not sure about grandfathered rate tho. I have been offered a few times but it never really worked.

These indy are now 400 or more but 500 or sometimes more in Toronto or Vancouver. So many travel often.

In my opinion if I was a traveler I would not bother. I would stick with agencies. They have a lot to offer at lower price. Better see them now before they become one of those high price indy.[/QUOTE]I totally agree. It can be hard to justify paying an independent 400 plus Canadian Dollars when an eager agency girl is around 250. There are other things to consider. Independents by nature tend to be older. That doesn't bother me, but some guys like their 19-22 year olds. The independents are very good at marketing themselves and their companionship skills. Some are experts at role play and various kink. You will pay more for this regardless if you just want vanilla sex. Vanilla sex in the Montreal agency might include BBBJCIM / COF and if the girl offers it, anal is likely with a slightly upcharge. Independents provide a wider variety of options.

For us American tourists, we have an advantage when booking top agency talent. Never specify time. Just tell them you want XXXX at any time today or tomorrow. Schedule your day and evening around the agency talent.

I hear from local intel that terrasas are starting to be installed in some downtown areas. I have not been able to experience the terrasa ambience during summer in Montreal, what is it like? I could imagine St Catherine or St Laurent gets crowded with girls showing off their beauty and catching some sun while sipping on mimosas. Is this an all day event? Do terrasas happen at night too?

What else should I look forward to during summer with COVID finally in the rear view mirror? I'm hoping to entertain myself and maybe my selected companion during some downtime activities while not fucking. Anyone else excited for what summer might bring to Montreal? I have a trip booked soon.

[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2685588]I hear from local intel that terrasas are starting to be installed in some downtown areas. I have not been able to experience the terrasa ambience during summer in Montreal, what is it like? I could imagine St Catherine or St Laurent gets crowded with girls showing off their beauty and catching some sun while sipping on mimosas. Is this an all day event? Do terrasas happen at night too?

What else should I look forward to during summer with COVID finally in the rear view mirror? I'm hoping to entertain myself and maybe my selected companion during some downtime activities while not fucking. Anyone else excited for what summer might bring to Montreal? I have a trip booked soon.[/QUOTE]It's terrasses EverythingBleu. The terrasses are great summer spaces for the hip and chill folks. They do stay open into the evening, but given they're outside they don't generally go into the wee morning hours because of noise restrictions. You will find attractive women if you do some research on the best terrasses. There are many terrasses open in a normal summer season.

In the summer, Montreal is a party hard city as are many large Northern cities. Montreal is also a festival city. The three events that come to mind our Formula One in June, the Montreal Jazz Festival early July and the Just for Laughs comedy festival at the end of July. The comedy festival is the largest of its kind in the world. If you check out the 2022 stand-up headliners, it's quite impressive. I recommend checking out the smaller venues where there are five or six comedians of varying fame throwing out their best stuff for limited sets.

There are many music festivals and ethnic festivals all summer. Check out a Montreal event website for the period you are there. You might think you are not interested in the Caribbean festival or whatever. These festivals tend to be laid back and the women there are more approachable. They are also good for an afternoon activity.

While you are there, check out all the front patios lined up on Rue St. Denis just north of the UQAM campus and on Rue Ste. Crescent. I guess technically some or all our terrasses, but generally I think of terrasses as elevated above the street. It doesn't matter it's all outdoor eating and drinking.

P.S- I think you are at an age where you hit it off with younger, civilian women. However, keep your eyes open for mature, civilian Quebecoise. Quebec women are known for being open-minded. Having said, there are many attractive, mature women in Montreal who are very receptive to male attention. FWIW, they are less flaky than the younger girls.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2685598]It's terrasses EverythingBleu. The terrasses are great summer spaces for the hip and chill folks. They do stay open into the evening, but given they're outside they don't generally go into the wee morning hours because of noise restrictions. You will find attractive women if you do some research on the best terrasses. There are many terrasses open in a normal summer season.

In the summer, Montreal is a party hard city as are many large Northern cities. Montreal is also a festival city. The three events that come to mind our Formula One in June, the Montreal Jazz Festival early July and the Just for Laughs comedy festival at the end of July. The comedy festival is the largest of its kind in the world. If you check out the 2022 stand-up headliners, it's quite impressive. I recommend checking out the smaller venues where there are five or six comedians of varying fame throwing out their best stuff for limited sets.

There are many music festivals and ethnic festivals all summer. Check out a Montreal event website for the period you are there. You might think you are not interested in the Caribbean festival or whatever. These festivals tend to be laid back and the women there are more approachable. They are also good for an afternoon activity.

While you are there, check out all the front patios lined up on Rue St. Denis just north of the UQAM campus and on Rue Ste. Crescent. I guess technically some or all our terrasses, but generally I think of terrasses as elevated above the street. It doesn't matter it's all outdoor eating and drinking.

P.S- I think you are at an age where you hit it off with younger, civilian women. However, keep your eyes open for mature, civilian Quebecoise. Quebec women are known for being open-minded. Having said, there are many attractive, mature women in Montreal who are very receptive to male attention. FWIW, they are less flaky than the younger girls.[/QUOTE]This is great info, just what I was hoping to hear. I would love to attend some of the festivals! I think a man has good chances of hitting it off with civilian women in Montreal no matter the age, many girls have told me that guys from the US tend to be more polite and willing to treat ladies right. In fact, on my last visit, I took a girl to dinner and she was telling me that it is not uncommon to see hot girls make the first move on guys in Montreal, but that many guys are just cheap or asholes. Locals can chime in, but I think I've experienced it, and I'm not Mr. Charming in any way, I simply try to be interested in them, you know just hear the blah blah blah for awhile then it’s go time, I become interested in all of them really LOL. I hope I can score me a sexy mature woman, It's hard though with the quality of 20-30 year olds my eyes tend to drift to younger skin.

Agencies seem to have new blood, I imagine summer time they'll have a lot more to try. I appreciate the intel WyattEarp, and the correction "Terrases" LOL.

[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2685640]I hope I can score me a sexy mature woman, It's hard though with the quality of 20-30 year olds my eyes tend to drift to younger skin.[/QUOTE]There is a big difference in flake factor from 20 to 30. However, as our boy Steve on the Seeking (and Sao Paulo) forums says the women start thinking about marriage.

So true, but as a tourist a 30 year old Quebecoise will look at you as a fun night or weekend at the most.

Hi there,

I've read a lot about the different agencies, but it isn't totally clear to me if people are doing incall or outcall? Could someone clarify if its incall, and if so, roughly where the top agency places are located (e. G. XO, Euphoria). I'm staying at a regular 3/4 star hotel, not sure what they would be like for a visitor.

Sounds like lots of good options.

Thanks for the help.

[QUOTE=OlderNotWiser;2686467]Hi there,

I've read a lot about the different agencies, but it isn't totally clear to me if people are doing incall or outcall? Could someone clarify if its incall, and if so, roughly where the top agency places are located (e. G. XO, Euphoria). I'm staying at a regular 3/4 star hotel, not sure what they would be like for a visitor.

Sounds like lots of good options.

Thanks for the help.[/QUOTE]Canada, Western Europe, and even the United States is so fundamentally different than South America, The Middle East, Asia, the Caribbean, etc. , that it is very difficult for many to get their heads around this simple fact. All hotels are guest friendly. If there is no elevator key card, she will walk into the hotel unmolested, and walk to the elevator as a free and equal person, push the button all by herself, walk to your room, and knock. If the hotel requires a keycard, everything will be the same except that you will text her what you are wearing and where you are sitting, and you will meet, greet, and walk together to the elevator unmolested. Guys who start this activity in a region other than Canada, Western Europe, or the United States apparently have trauma from the hotel molesting them or the lady, and never seem comfortable with hotel outcalls. You don't need to be concerned about this in Canada.

[QUOTE=OlderNotWiser;2686467]Hi there,

I've read a lot about the different agencies, but it isn't totally clear to me if people are doing incall or outcall? Could someone clarify if its incall, and if so, roughly where the top agency places are located (e. G. XO, Euphoria). I'm staying at a regular 3/4 star hotel, not sure what they would be like for a visitor.

Sounds like lots of good options.

Thanks for the help.[/QUOTE]The general rule is that all agencies will consider doing outcall. I'm not sure the more popular girls will hop in a car or taxi to meet you unless there is an incentive to leave their incall location. The reasons are obvious. When I say incentive, I mean higher rate or two plus hour session.

Vogue which typically has solid line-ups does exclusively outcall appointments. Outcall is their niche. The newer agency Luxury seems to cater to outcall.

Agency incall locations are usually in and around downtown. If you stay in the center of Montreal, visiting agency incall locations is very easy.

Mongerer88 is correct. There is no issue with escorts coming to your hotel.

Do you know if in-call agencies such as Euphoria and XO can accommodate two sessions at the same time? I want to go with a friend, and each of us would book a girl in separated rooms. Assuming all the girls are working in the same location, I can't find a reason to not accommodate such request. Have anyone tried doing this before?

Alternatively, me and my friend might just need to text / call the booker separately to request session in the same time-slot (with different girls).

[QUOTE=Suzhilang;2684315]Yeah, I have been planning my 1st trip to MTL, and I can't wait.

For this trip, I would love to explore both agency girls and independence. While researching, I was surprised that independence girls charge a lot higher than agency. For the three most reviewed agency, the average for 1 HR is 240, but independence girls are asking 400+, which is as expensive as in the US.[/QUOTE]Speaking of rates, what's the going price at MPs in Montreal these days?

[QUOTE=Suzhilang;2687473]Do you know if in-call agencies such as Euphoria and XO can accommodate two sessions at the same time? I want to go with a friend, and each of us would book a girl in separated rooms. Assuming all the girls are working in the same location, I can't find a reason to not accommodate such request. Have anyone tried doing this before?

Alternatively, me and my friend might just need to text / call the booker separately to request session in the same time-slot (with different girls).[/QUOTE]In my experience, they're not in the same location. They're usually in a single-bedroom condo.

It would definitely be cheaper for the agency to book a multi-room apartment, and maybe more secure for the girls but that means the clients will see or hear one another.

It's more likely that you get clients that want to maintain their privacy than ones who will want to book rooms at the same time.

[QUOTE=Suzhilang;2687473]Do you know if in-call agencies such as Euphoria and XO can accommodate two sessions at the same time? I want to go with a friend, and each of us would book a girl in separated rooms. Assuming all the girls are working in the same location, I can't find a reason to not accommodate such request. Have anyone tried doing this before?

Alternatively, me and my friend might just need to text / call the booker separately to request session in the same time-slot (with different girls).[/QUOTE]I have done it a lot back in the 2015-2018 period when I was active (I pretty much retired from seeing SP).

Both XO and Euphoria accommodate us for this. We either knew which girl were friend with each other or we would book one and let the booker chose the other one as most girl will do it with a girl they know or have heard about.

Back then I never had an upcharge for this. And what was great is we switch girl back in forth during the session And sometime there was only one bed anyway so. But nowadays it's possible they ask you for an upcharge.

[QUOTE=Jmioffe;2687654]In my experience, they're not in the same location. They're usually in a single-bedroom condo.

It would definitely be cheaper for the agency to book a multi-room apartment, and maybe more secure for the girls but that means the clients will see or hear one another.

It's more likely that you get clients that want to maintain their privacy than ones who will want to book rooms at the same time.[/QUOTE]If girls are not even in the same building, this will make it more challenging for us as my friend and I share one vehicle. If girls are in the same building, but different floors / rooms, I think we can simply just book different girls at the same time-slot. To clarify, we do not plan on having group sex, but rather not wanting to have one person waiting while the other person is meeting with a girl.

[QUOTE=Suzhilang;2687863]my friend and I share one vehicle[/QUOTE]I'm guessing you're not from Montreal. You don't need a car, it's more of a liability in town.

[QUOTE=Suzhilang;2687863]If girls are not even in the same building, this will make it more challenging for us as my friend and I share one vehicle. If girls are in the same building, but different floors / rooms, I think we can simply just book different girls at the same time-slot. To clarify, we do not plan on having group sex, but rather not wanting to have one person waiting while the other person is meeting with a girl.[/QUOTE]Ha OK. Euphoria is most of the time in same building. Sometimes they rent a hotel nearby their incall location because they are missing room.

XO use about 3 or 4 different building but they are all very close to each other.

I much prefer the Euphoria location for it's proximity to downtown.

Hello all,

I am currently booked in Brossard. Is this a mistake, or do I definitely want to be downtown? The hotel in Brossard was far, far more affordable. If I do stay there, are there any Indy's or agencies that are in or near Brossard? Any issues with downtown agencies providing outcall to Brossard?

Also, for when I have business in the city, what agency (or am Indy or two) is closest to the convention center?

Thanks!

[QUOTE=ThatGuy23;2690500]Hello all,

I am currently booked in Brossard. Is this a mistake, or do I definitely want to be downtown? The hotel in Brossard was far, far more affordable. If I do stay there, are there any Indy's or agencies that are in or near Brossard? Any issues with downtown agencies providing outcall to Brossard?

Also, for when I have business in the city, what agency (or am Indy or two) is closest to the convention center?

Thanks![/QUOTE]I think you will pay in Transport what you saved for the hotel. This hotel has good rates usually. I have been there a few time for girl [URL]https://www.lenouvelhotel.com/[/URL] It's close to Euphoria and XO incall.

Euphoria is closest to convention center. About 3 subway stations only.

The only girl I know that are on the south shore are [URL]https://katrinavianna.com/[/URL] She's amazing.

Most agencies will outcall to Brossard yes. But out of traffic hours. You may be ask an extra 20 or 40 $ Hint money you could have saved paying more for the room downtown.

[QUOTE=ThatGuy23;2690500]Hello all,

I am currently booked in Brossard. Is this a mistake, or do I definitely want to be downtown? The hotel in Brossard was far, far more affordable. If I do stay there, are there any Indy's or agencies that are in or near Brossard? Any issues with downtown agencies providing outcall to Brossard?[/QUOTE]I don't live in Montreal, but from my experience Brossard is not a good location. First off, I think you will need a car. I'm guessing that eats up all or most of your hotel savings. It has been said here many times you absolutely don't need or want a car in downtown Montreal.

I don't know for sure, but I think you will struggle to get major agencies to send their top talent to Brossard unless you pay something for travel time.

You really need to be staying in the center of Montreal if you plan on seeing a lot of escorts.

[QUOTE=ThatGuy23;2690500]Hello all,

If I do stay there, are there any Indy's or agencies that are in or near Brossard?

[/QUOTE]Yeah, Katrina Vianna and apparently after her you won't need anyone else.

[QUOTE=DethManRulz;2690752]Yeah, Katrina Vianna and apparently after her you won't need anyone else.[/QUOTE]Apparently?

[QUOTE=ThatGuy23;2690765]Apparently?[/QUOTE]Katrina is a Brazilian-Quebecois escort that's a big deal in Montreal (Brossard specifically). I don't think one escort is reason enough to stay in Brossard. Click on her website and see for yourself.

Jalimon knows what he's talking about when he's not talking politics.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2690733]I don't live in Montreal, but from my experience Brossard is not a good location. First off, I think you will need a car. I'm guessing that eats up all or most of your hotel savings. It has been said here many times you absolutely don't need or want a car in downtown Montreal.

I don't know for sure, but I think you will struggle to get major agencies to send their top talent to Brossard unless you pay something for travel time.

You really need to be staying in the center of Montreal if you plan on seeing a lot of escorts.[/QUOTE]In about 1 year Brossard could become a good location. There will be a new train that will relay Brossard's popular 10/30 square to downtown in about 15 minutes. Same train will then go up to the airport in another 15 minutes! So until that train is up and running (the REM) I would avoid the south-shore.

Currently if your hotel is walking distance from Brossard Panama bus station you can get on a very regular bus that relay downtown in less then 30 minute. And you want to take that bus because otherwise by car you are often in crazy traffic.

I know a lot of girl that actually live on the south shore but do incall only at xo or euphoria. Once you've met them once you can then invite them outcall on a day they are actually not working. I have done that often with girl coming to my place on the north shore because they lived close by.

P.S. That Katrina Vianna is quite something. She can do any scenario you ever imagine.

If you decide for a lower price hotel in Montreal do not go east of St-Denis (unless it's in old port). Do not go north of Cremazie (highway 40). And hotel close to the airport are too far for outcalls.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2691091]That Katrina Vianna is quite something. She can do any scenario you ever imagine.[/QUOTE]Something else is that Katrina charges 400-450 for incall-outcall versus the top downtown agencies charging around 250 give or take.

Katrina is a very good example of an earlier discussion about independent escorts who have great reputations, regular clientele and internet marketing savvy. Katrina can charge more and maybe take less appointments if she chooses.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2691425]Something else is that Katrina charges 400-450 for incall-outcall versus the top downtown agencies charging around 250 give or take.

Katrina is a very good example of an earlier discussion about independent escorts who have great reputations, regular clientele and internet marketing savvy. Katrina can charge more and maybe take less appointments if she chooses.[/QUOTE]I've only ever done agencies in Montreal, and I've never been disappointed, so it would be wise of me to stick with them I'm sure. But a few Indy's have caught my eye, Katrina being the top one.

Thanks everyone for the tips.

Oh, one more thing. Just how bad is the traffic? If I am staying at a hotel in Brossard and I'm done with my work day by the convention center (let's assume 6-ish?) how long is my drive back to my hotel, approximately? Hotel near DIX30. If bad, I could hit dinner (or an incall) before heading back, but when does traffic ease up?

Thanks again!

[QUOTE=Suzhilang;2687473]Do you know if in-call agencies such as Euphoria and XO can accommodate two sessions at the same time? I want to go with a friend, and each of us would book a girl in separated rooms. Assuming all the girls are working in the same location, I can't find a reason to not accommodate such request. Have anyone tried doing this before?

Alternatively, me and my friend might just need to text / call the booker separately to request session in the same time-slot (with different girls).[/QUOTE]Reporting back to the forum as I just came back from my 1st ever trip to Montreal, and my impression is WOW, I wished I have the time and freedom to visit more often.

I've only visited agency, so I will just provide a few tip and lesson learned:

1. Incall is much more reliable than outcall. I have scheduled 4 outcall, and three out of four were cancelled a few hours before the scheduled time.

2. book as early as you can. Agency published the next day schedule on around mid-night, and some girls only have limited slot. So if you wait until a few hours before you want to meet, your selection would be limited.

3. I have visited 4 incall during my trip and they are all located downtown. In fact, two incalls (in different date) are in the exact same room. The condos are all 1 b1 b, so my original plan of visiting the same building with my friend didn't work out. However, we were able to book from the same agency different girls at the same time slot, and the locations are walking distance.

4. I stayed at an airb&b downtown. Since all my incall visit happen to be near the Notre-Dame, I will stay near the Notre-Dame next time I visit.

5. Uber is pretty convenience, and it costs about $10 USD one-way from my Airbnb to incall locations.

After all, I really love the hobbying scene in Montreal. It provides high quality services, from high quality providers, at a reasonable price. It would probably cost 3 x or 4 x to get the same level of quality from the USA.

If I were single, I would probably visit Montreal every month. Now that wifey can monitor location through phone, it is making it very difficult to find excuse to get away for a few days.

[QUOTE=Suzhilang;2692164]

1. Incall is much more reliable than outcall. I have scheduled 4 outcall, and three out of four were cancelled a few hours before the scheduled time.[/QUOTE]What agency or agencies was this? Very interested in a couple girls from Vogue but they're outcall only.

I've been having a great time in Montreal since my last report. The only requirement left is masks, but people are pretty relaxed about COVID now which is great. Just bring a mask or two in case you need it, but the requirement should go away soon. For the return trip to the US I used the antigen test from eMed again, hopefully this is the last time it's needed. I enjoyed great sunny weather, and even had brunch in a terrasse, the sun was strong but people seem to enjoy it out here, specially after a long winter.

I'm faced with a monger dilemma, I've become close with a local girl and we are spending a lot of time together, she satisfies me during each encounter and condoms are a thing of the past, which is good. It's great having someone local to show you around too, but it's time consuming and I miss the freedom to keep mongering, so I'll need to decide what to do, she's a sweetheart so it's a hard choice at the moment. It's nice having a date for dinner and banging all night long, but the novelty factor wears out quickly, and as we walk around I find myself wanting a piece of every other girls ass I see on the street.

I stayed in downtown as usual, but this time my local girl and I ventured to Brossard, she likes the area so it worked out great. I think going to the DIX30 outdoor shopping mall is a good idea if looking to shop, eat, drink and enjoy eye candy. We spent an afternoon shopping, having a pizza at Monza, then walked back and hung out in one of the restaurants & bars. Many places have a rooftop setting which is nice. At night the scene is pretty active. We had dinner at Lucille's, the food was good and plenty of beer selections to pick from, I saw a lot of Milfs and hot fixed up blondes, I was salivating. The drive from downtown is short without traffic, about 15 min, but the issue is traffic builds up approaching downtown on the way back. I saw the train system being built mentioned by Jalimon, it will be great once finished. If you are looking for a break from downtown it's a cool area to explore.

Back in downtown I finally saw Becky from XO. She is top service. Friendly from the start, she has beautiful green eyes, slim tanned body with a few tasteful tattoos, a pair of pear shaped natural tits that hang just right and bounce to the tune of your banging speed with delicious pink nipples, those are some of the best tits I've seen. Her highlight is her BBBJ, she is relentless and performs DT as much as you want, at least with my little friend, if you are in the bigger size category then I'm not sure. If you say let's do this or that she keeps smiling and goes for it, DATY DATO and DFK is available without hesitation, when I finished while on top I stayed inside her for at least 5 min kissing her, she never rushed me to pull out like others do once the deed is done. We messed around again a bit later and she never watched the clock, she said she loses track of time easily. Big thumbs up.

I'm curious about the nightclubs in old port, I had dinner nearby on Saturday night and the area was full of girls walking around going to clubs looking sexy. I think my club days are behind but I can still hang if it's needed to chase a fine young lady, so I might need to explore at some point.

I originally wanted to come back for the Grand Prix, but I think I'll wait since prices are starting to creep up in hotels and I imagine girls from agencies will be booked a lot. Selection wise I've seen Euphoria add quite a few girls to the roster, but they get booked fast and you need to be ready to text the booker at 10 p the night before.

Montreal has a ton to offer, not just for mongering but for tourists too. I plan to visit Mont Tremblant, I hear the scenery is quite beautiful.

I hope reports from others continue to trickle in as summer kicks in, and that a recession doesn't derail this much deserved summer of sex and love in a foreign country.

EB.

[QUOTE=ThatGuy23;2691773]Oh, one more thing. Just how bad is the traffic? If I am staying at a hotel in Brossard and I'm done with my work day by the convention center (let's assume 6-ish?) how long is my drive back to my hotel, approximately? Hotel near DIX30. If bad, I could hit dinner (or an incall) before heading back, but when does traffic ease up?

Thanks again![/QUOTE]At 6 pm it will take about 1 h to drive back to dix30. Do a 1 h incall at euphoria nearby as it will take 20 minutes at 7 pm.

[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2692250]I've been having a great time in Montreal since my last report. The only requirement left is masks, but people are pretty relaxed about COVID now which is great. Just bring a mask or two in case you need it, but the requirement should go away soon. For the return trip to the US I used the antigen test from eMed again, hopefully this is the last time it's needed. I enjoyed great sunny weather, and even had brunch in a terrasse, the sun was strong but people seem to enjoy it out here, specially after a long winter.

I'm faced with a monger dilemma, I've become close with a local girl and we are spending a lot of time together, she satisfies me during each encounter and condoms are a thing of the past, which is good. It's great having someone local to show you around too, but it's time consuming and I miss the freedom to keep mongering, so I'll need to decide what to do, she's a sweetheart so it's a hard choice at the moment. It's nice having a date for dinner and banging all night long, but the novelty factor wears out quickly, and as we walk around I find myself wanting a piece of every other girls ass I see on the street.

I stayed in downtown as usual, but this time my local girl and I ventured to Brossard, she likes the area so it worked out great. I think going to the DIX30 outdoor shopping mall is a good idea if looking to shop, eat, drink and enjoy eye candy. We spent an afternoon shopping, having a pizza at Monza, then walked back and hung out in one of the restaurants & bars. Many places have a rooftop setting which is nice. At night the scene is pretty active. We had dinner at Lucille's, the food was good and plenty of beer selections to pick from, I saw a lot of Milfs and hot fixed up blondes, I was salivating. The drive from downtown is short without traffic, about 15 min, but the issue is traffic builds up approaching downtown on the way back. I saw the train system being built mentioned by Jalimon, it will be great once finished. If you are looking for a break from downtown it's a cool area to explore..[/QUOTE]Thank you for the detailed FR. I checked their website there is only Becca I don't see a Becky. Can you confirm the name please.

[QUOTE=BrownHunter;2692617]Thank you for the detailed FR. I checked their website there is only Becca I don't see a Becky. Can you confirm the name please.[/QUOTE]It's her, sometimes names get slightly changed for their top girls, not exactly sure why.

[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2692659]It's her, sometimes names get slightly changed for their top girls, not exactly sure why.[/QUOTE]Becca is not Becky.

Becky is only advertised via Merb. And sometimes not at all. You need to ask booker.

Be warned that she cancels a lot! But when you do get to see her wow wow wow I remember last time I saw her I was about to leave at the end. Close back the door, unzip. She told me you pervert. She went on her knee and suck me another 5 minutes. Not many girl I would have had the guts to do that haha.

I passed a pleasant sojourn in Montreal recently. My first foreign hobby trip since the start of the pandemic and what can I say? Montreal is, if not the best mongering scene in North America, then certainly the easiest. Admittedly I haven't been to Mexico (my hopes are not high in that regard, but I will eventually get down to Tijuana to at least visit the clubs to check them off the list) but I find it hard to believe you can beat Montreal in terms of beaty / service level of the girls, price and especially the professional service run by the agencies. This was my typical day: wake up, scan the Euphoria & Vogue websites for today's target, make and appt, work out, fuck, eat dinner and fuck again if I felt like it (usually not but there were always attractive targets available).

Here are some of the girls I didn't see for lack of time: Amira, Angie, Arielle, Brooke, Catherine, Heaven, Mila, Taylor all at Euphoria. At Vogue: Romy, Megan, Arielle, Stacy, Noemie, Alexia, Tia, Anastasia. I've used XO in the past, but they've stopped posting a daily lineup on the green board. Conjecture is that they already can fill their lineup with regulars so don't need new clients? No matter, I found their lineup less to my taste. XO tends to be incall only and I prefer outcall if I can get it. When calling Euphoria I found it's easier to get outcall if you are the first or last call of the day or you are willing to book multiple hours.

I stayed at the Intercontinental downtown. It was on the pricey side (hotels everywhere look like they have gotten expensive) and in need of a refresh but I chose it because no need for a keycard to it's easier for the girls.

Who I did see: Euphoria: Kourtney, Elie, Juliette. Vogue: Crystal, Mia. Plus, the indy, Katrina Vianna. I'm posting detailed reviews on the green board but I'm willing to answer any questions guys have about any of the above.

But since she was just mentioned a couple of posts ago, I thought I'the include a short review of Katrina Vianna. She has a rep as being one of the best providers in MTL, so I emailed her ahead of time to start the trip off right. That morning she texted me saying she was feeling sick so she'the need to reschedule. She was very apologetic, and I managed to get a booking with Elie at Euphoria on short notice. Katrina said she would see my a few days hence. So I'm a little worried, the girl's rates are nearly double the agencies, her incall is all the way out in Brossard ($30 uber ride each way) so I'm preparing myself for a big disappointment.

Well, let me tell you, SHE'S WORTH EVERY PENNY. Easily one of the top 5 experiences I've had in over 20 years of mongering. I will say that her looks are right in my wheelhouse. Tall, athletic, brown skin with a beautiful set of manmade. Her pics if anything don't convey her beauty. But her performance is even better. She gave the most inhibited and generous DFK / BBBJ of any girls of the trip, even letting me put my fingers in her mouth & down her throat while submissively dirty talking me. Digits going everywhere (except her ass which is off limits except for my tongue) She's amazingly sensual, really loves sex and doing this work. Her skin is satin smooth and bronze all over. She even had a kitty with a cute 5 o'clock shadow like the girls in Gary Roberts comics. Her incall is full toys and outfits for role-play at which she is excellent. What a find! I'm already thinking about coming back to see her for a longer time. Girls like her often will get harder to see as high rollers tie them up or they age out or get married even. Enjoy a tru unicorn.

Hb.

Thanks for the info Harvestboi. After reading your report, I plan to make a trip out to Montreal myself this coming up summer. A couple of questions for you. 1) I plan to stay for a week, check out the Montreal tourist scene in the morning, and escort service in the afternoon. I want to stay close to agencies like XO, Euphoria, Vogue, any 4/5 star hotel recommendations? 2) Should I get a rental car? Or just Uber? 3) how much is the service? Do I need to pay extra for cum? 4) I am into pale skin girls, any specific girl you recommend from those agencies you used? 5) how is the facilities and girls compared to German FKKs? Thanks much in advanced!

[QUOTE=HarvestBoi;2693915]This was my typical day: wake up, scan the Euphoria & Vogue websites for today's target, make and appt, work out, fuck, eat dinner and fuck again if I felt like it (usually not but there were always attractive targets available).[/QUOTE]

J, Just my opinions but here goes:

1. Hotels were expensive, between 2-300 a night, but there are plenty of them downtown. If you plan to do outcall, it's a bit easier to be in a hotel w / o a key card but you can always just meet a girl in the lobby too. Bring something distinctive to wear (a hat is good) to make it easy for the girl to ID you. The green board has a hotel thread which is worthwhile. I've stayed at the doubletree, intercontinental and LE Mount Stephan. The last is a true 5 star if you want to spend the money. The Doubletree was supposed to have a refresh, the intercontinental was a bit old. The incalls were all close to downtown. See previous posts about incall vs outcall availability. Vogue only does outcall and XO only does incall now it seems. Euphoria can be outcall depending on the girl / schedule. Ask James or that days booker, they are really friendly and helpful. On my next visit I may go the Airbnb route as I was disappointed in the quality / price ratio of the hotels but it may limit the number of outcalls I can arrange. I asked one girl where she would get an Airbnb if she was me and she said Griffintown. Downtown can be a bit dead at night and Griffintown has more nightlife but still close enough.

2. A car is just a burden. For incalls a car may be useful as a place to hang out if the girl is running late but the agencies are so good I never had it happen. Walk, transit or Uber is the way to go.

3. Tarifs are listed on the agency or Indy girls sites. Not sure what you mean but CIM / COF is a YMMV situation. Most who do it charge something extra. Not a big thing with me so I'm not the best to ask. Katrina Vianna included it in her service. Extra to make her swallow she said.

4. The photos are accurate so depending on your definition of pale skin there are plenty of targets. I can recommend Juliette and, if you're lucky enough to book her, Heaven at Euphoria.

5. MTL is an escort agency scene so not comparable to FKK re: facilities. The incalls were nice enough but had no saunas LOL. Most of the girls I had would be right at home in most of the FKK I've been in.

Hb.

[QUOTE=Jay2574;2694407]Thanks for the info Harvestboi. After reading your report, I plan to make a trip out to Montreal myself this coming up summer. A couple of questions for you. 1) I plan to stay for a week, check out the Montreal tourist scene in the morning, and escort service in the afternoon. I want to stay close to agencies like XO, Euphoria, Vogue, any 4/5 star hotel recommendations? 2) Should I get a rental car? Or just Uber? 3) how much is the service? Do I need to pay extra for cum? 4) I am into pale skin girls, any specific girl you recommend from those agencies you used? 5) how is the facilities and girls compared to German FKKs? Thanks much in advanced![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jay2574;2694407]Thanks for the info Harvestboi. After reading your report, I plan to make a trip out to Montreal myself this coming up summer. A couple of questions for you. 1) I plan to stay for a week, check out the Montreal tourist scene in the morning, and escort service in the afternoon. I want to stay close to agencies like XO, Euphoria, Vogue, any 4/5 star hotel recommendations? 2) Should I get a rental car? Or just Uber? 3) how much is the service? Do I need to pay extra for cum? 4) I am into pale skin girls, any specific girl you recommend from those agencies you used? 5) how is the facilities and girls compared to German FKKs? Thanks much in advanced![/QUOTE]There are also a lot of Airbnb's in the high-rises in Shaughnessy Village. Many are cheaper than the hotels, but always read the reviews a lot of hosts don't necessarily keep up their rental properties. Some of the high-rise buildings are long in the tooth, but everyone minds their own business (I. E. Outcall). From observational evidence, the area has been on the upswing for several years. Rue Sainte-Catherine has a lot of interesting and inexpensive dining and drinking options with buzzing front patios. Concordia University seems to bring a young vibe to the area.

I don't think it as cool and hip as Griffintown, but it has great access to the metro. The Orange line and Green line cut right through the neighborhood. The Orange line takes me to more chill neighborhood of LE Plateau and the Jean Talon Market further Northwest. LE Plateau has been mentioned, but I just don't think their are a lot of Airbnbs with privacy. Think low-rise development with owners possibly living next door. If you are only doing incall, it's worth a look.

This leads me to a great point. When I see a Airbnb host has several units available around the city, I know they likely don't live in the building.

Jay2547, Jalimon and I always recommend taking the 747 express shuttle from the airport to the center of Montreal. It will take you to the Lionel-Groulx metro station which is on the doorstep of both Griffintown and Shaughnessy Village.

Some of the multi-day and weekend metro passes include this shuttle.

[URL]https://www.stm.info/en/info/fares/transit-fares[/URL]

I am planning a trip to Montreal and have been reading reports. I don't have much experience mongering in Canada and wanted to know a few things.

1. If you book a girl for let's say 60 or 90 minutes. Will they spend that whole time with you or once you are done you get out? In other words, is there a time watching.

2. Do agency girls offer DFK? I love intense kissing and foreplay which are a quintessential aspect of a good sex. Do agency girls like to talk about what their client wants? If you know any girls who are good at foreplay and DFK, please drop the names. I have Lina, Elanore and Becky on the list.

3. I am guessing, GFE covers DFK and foreplay. Right??

I am new monger here and would love to know answers to these questions. I am sorry if it comes out as stupid questions, its just the inexperience.

Thank you in advance for taking the time to respond.

[QUOTE=BrownHunter;2694908]I am planning a trip to Montreal and have been reading reports. I don't have much experience mongering in Canada and wanted to know a few things.

1. If you book a girl for let's say 60 or 90 minutes. Will they spend that whole time with you or once you are done you get out? In other words, is there a time watching.

2. Do agency girls offer DFK? I love intense kissing and foreplay which are a quintessential aspect of a good sex. Do agency girls like to talk about what their client wants? If you know any girls who are good at foreplay and DFK, please drop the names. I have Lina, Elanore and Becky on the list.

3. I am guessing, GFE covers DFK and foreplay. Right??

I am new monger here and would love to know answers to these questions. I am sorry if it comes out as stupid questions, its just the inexperience.

Thank you in advance for taking the time to respond.[/QUOTE]Yes to all.

Never hurts to read reviews, but it is a matter of degree.

All the ladies to some level of GFE, DFK, and foreplay. And BBBJ is standard in Montreal. For what it is worth, Indian dishes are not a big part of Montreal cuisine, so it is better not to eat curry beforehand.

And the ladies stay for the duration of time purchased.

Montreal is a first-world area, so third-world concepts like leaving after the first cum are not part of its escort scene.

Brownhunter,

1. I'm probably the wrong person to ask about this because if I get 1 shot off I'm happy and if the girl is in a hurry or isn't all that interesting to hang with I'm happy to let her leave a few minutes early. If you are looking for 2 shots in a session, my sense is this is typically a YMMV situation. A 90 minutes session increase your odds I'the think. Then there is the ritual shower (for the outcallee) which can chew up 10-15 minutes. I found outcall girls keener for a early exit and incalls more relaxed. BUT I'the say that an hour is an hour and if you feel a girl shorted you, raise it with the booker.

2/3. Of the 6 girls I saw, 5 gave DFK with varying enthusiasm. This proportion conforms to my previous visits. I'm still trying to figure if what Elie provided was true DFK but whatever it's very compelling LOL. Kourtney and Juliette at Euphoria and Crystal and Romy at Vogue are names I can suggest. Avoid Mia at Vogue. You'the need to define what is meant precisely meant by "foreplay". But mostly girls are open to direction / suggestion.

Finally, the agencies want to work with the girls to provide you a positive experience. That being said, it's not possible for them to navigate the exact details of everyone's taste, yours and the girl's. If you have a session that is sub-optimal, don't get discouraged a great session is just a call away.

Hb.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2692929]Becca is not Becky.

Becky is only advertised via Merb. And sometimes not at all. You need to ask booker.

Be warned that she cancels a lot! But when you do get to see her wow wow wow I remember last time I saw her I was about to leave at the end. Close back the door, unzip. She told me you pervert. She went on her knee and suck me another 5 minutes. Not many girl I would have had the guts to do that haha.[/QUOTE]They are the same person. Ex Chelsea at Mike Mansion and Euphoria.

[QUOTE=BrownHunter;2694908]Do agency girls offer DFK? I love intense kissing and foreplay which are a quintessential aspect of a good sex. Do agency girls like to talk about what their client wants? If you know any girls who are good at foreplay and DFK, please drop the names. I have Lina, Elanore and Becky on the list.

I am guessing, GFE covers DFK and foreplay. Right??[/QUOTE][QUOTE=HarvestBoi;2694938]Of the 6 girls I saw, 5 gave DFK with varying enthusiasm.[/QUOTE]HarvestBoi gave a very accurate and succinct answer. No, GFE doesn't automatically include DFK.

Nothing on the review boards garners more debate. Some guys getting LFK think they are getting DFK. In Montreal where a handful of top agency dominate, some local yokels who are good customers of an agency will report DFK with every new girl from said agency. Later, others with no agency clout weigh in and say DFK was not offered. The come back from the fortunate few to receive DFK is very often YMMV (your mileage may vary). I generally search for Canadian escorts who have solid track records including DFK.

I previously mentioned this here. I met the blonde bombshell April McAdams when she was with Vogue. (She may have permanently retired during COVID). Her first clients said you must book this girl before she's too popular. And yes they said, she offers DFK.

I basically got a bit of LFK and then her lips were blocking the goal. (Gratuitous hockey metaphor on the Montreal thread. LOL.) Anyway, April was very beautiful and her body was one of the best I have ever seen in person or in media. She was built like a Barbie Doll with very firm, large natural breasts. It was still worth meeting her.

Word from the wise. If DFK is a big thing for you, take a trip to Brazil. The Brazilian working girls will suck your tongue right out of your mouth.

I will prb just use uber or Metro to get around, per Havestboi's suggestion.

Would Lionel-Groulx metro station be close to the 4 top escort agencies? Euphoria, XO, Vogue, Godiva. I am looking for a hotel / metro station in the middle of those 3 agencies, so I can get there by uber, public transportation, or even walking.

I actually prefer "incall" where I go over to their place and spend an hour with the ladies, are those 4 agencies listed above all provide in-call? Or do they only come to my hotel?

Thanks in advanced for any tips!

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2694694]Jay2547, Jalimon and I always recommend taking the 747 express shuttle from the airport to the center of Montreal. It will take you to the Lionel-Groulx metro station which is on the doorstep of both Griffintown and Shaughnessy Village.

Some of the multi-day and weekend metro passes include this shuttle.

[URL]https://www.stm.info/en/info/fares/transit-fares[/URL][/QUOTE]

I will defer to WyattEarp and Jalimon who know the city better but the incalls I did with Euphoria were about 2 km or 25 minute walk from Lionel-Groulx. You can take the Metro 2-3 stops which cuts that travel time in half.

Vogue is outcall only. Says so right in their ads.

XO is incall only now apparently.

I haven't used Godiva.

Euphoria is mostly incall especially for popular girls but you can get outcall if you contact them early or do a session that is the first or last of the girls shift.

[QUOTE=Jay2574;2696086]I will prb just use uber or Metro to get around, per Havestboi's suggestion.

Would Lionel-Groulx metro station be close to the 4 top escort agencies? Euphoria, XO, Vogue, Godiva. I am looking for a hotel / metro station in the middle of those 3 agencies, so I can get there by uber, public transportation, or even walking.

I actually prefer "incall" where I go over to their place and spend an hour with the ladies, are those 4 agencies listed above all provide in-call? Or do they only come to my hotel?

Thanks in advanced for any tips![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jay2574;2696086]I will prb just use uber or Metro to get around, per Havestboi's suggestion.

Would Lionel-Groulx metro station be close to the 4 top escort agencies? Euphoria, XO, Vogue, Godiva. I am looking for a hotel / metro station in the middle of those 3 agencies, so I can get there by uber, public transportation, or even walking.[/QUOTE]A quick response would be don't overthink it. All the incall locations are near downtown. Montreal is not that vast and getting around the center is easy.

The best thing to do is find a neighborhood near the center that you would enjoy and get a room near a Metro station. It will not be hard to get to the agency incall locations. Think of it this way. Let's say you do two incalls a day. That's only two hours. That leaves at least ten hours a day to do things in an exciting North American city. Montreal is a great city to just walk around.

My advice: Pick a fun location. Don't worry about where the incall locations are located.

[QUOTE=Jay2574;2696086]I will prb just use uber or Metro to get around, per Havestboi's suggestion.

Would Lionel-Groulx metro station be close to the 4 top escort agencies? Euphoria, XO, Vogue, Godiva[/QUOTE]Godiva? They been out of business for years?

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2696316]A quick response would be don't overthink it. All the incall locations are near downtown. Montreal is not that vast and getting around the center is easy.

The best thing to do is find a neighborhood near the center that you would enjoy and get a room near a Metro station. It will not be hard to get to the agency incall locations. Think of it this way. Let's say you do two incalls a day. That's only two hours. That leaves at least ten hours a day to do things in an exciting North American city. Montreal is a great city to just walk around.

My advice: Pick a fun location. Don't worry about where the incall locations are located.[/QUOTE]Yeah I so much agree.

One of my good friend often books airbnb in Montreal and the best place he booked was on the Plateau Mont-Royal.

Anything north of Sherbrooke street, south of St-Joshef, between Park avenue to the west and st-denis to the east is a fucking winner.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2696418]Yeah I so much agree.

One of my good friend often books airbnb in Montreal and the best place he booked was on the Plateau Mont-Royal.

Anything north of Sherbrooke street, south of St-Joshef, between Park avenue to the west and st-denis to the east is a fucking winner.[/QUOTE]Did he do any outcall appointments?

I look at Airbnb's on-line exactly in the Plateau. It's a fun area. I'm always seeing flats that look like the owner lives there too. Private apartments, but not necessarily discreet.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2696661]Did he do any outcall appointments?

I look at Airbnb's on-line exactly in the Plateau. It's a fun area. I'm always seeing flats that look like the owner lives there too. Private apartments, but not necessarily discreet.[/QUOTE]Yes he does only outcall. But this guy has a magic twist with bookers as he often gets what other client cannot!

I cannot find the exact Airbnb he was renting but it was great! Close to St-Laurent.

But look at this one:

[URL]https://www.airbnb.ca/rooms/621719401693613079?adults=1&children=0&infants=0&location=Montreal%2C%20Quebec%2C%20Canada&check_in=2023-03-16&check_out=2023-03-23&federated_search_id=7eb9e5a7-98c8-45f5-858d-c83e1f40bc12&source_impression_id=p3_1652477573_5ygjPbjw5cVcQ9%2BR[/URL]

Great location. Nice place.

[QUOTE=JosephBrenner;2696361]Godiva? They been out of business for years?[/QUOTE]Yeah have not heard from Godiva in a while.

Agency gaining traction now in Montreal are Luxury, Sensation, Velvet (use them many time, great!) and there is also Candy. But not too sure if that one is really good.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2696759]I cannot find the exact Airbnb he was renting but it was great! Close to St-Laurent.

But look at this one:

[URL]https://www.airbnb.ca/rooms/621719401693613079?adults=1&children=0&infants=0&location=Montreal%2C%20Quebec%2C%20Canada&check_in=2023-03-16&check_out=2023-03-23&federated_search_id=7eb9e5a7-98c8-45f5-858d-c83e1f40bc12&source_impression_id=p3_1652477573_5ygjPbjw5cVcQ9%2BR[/URL]

Great location. Nice place.[/QUOTE]It looks like a great place in a good location. There's one problem. There's no private entrance. So you are essentially booking loft space most likely above the guy's main living area.

One could ask the owner if he's cool with young girls dropping by for an hour or two. I myself am not too comfortable with that.

Even if there is a private entrance, in urban neighborhoods like the Plateau that can mean it's a two or three flat with the owner living in the building.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2696316] The best thing to do is find a neighborhood near the center that you would enjoy and get a room near a Metro station. It will not be hard to get to the agency incall locations. [/QUOTE]Is there any way maybe privately I can find out more exact locations of major incalls? I assume agencies won't tell till book. I am a pre-planning nerd famous for my spreadsheets of potential escorts etc based on lots of review reading for a month or so before a trip. Sometimes I have them at 3 levels. When I arrive and want to see someone just compare the current schedule on the website to my spreadsheet which to me is more efficient than just picking by a day without time to research.

Likewise, ideally, I prepare maps ahead of time of locations (like incalls, massage, strip clubs) and may set up my GPS for them which makes it far easier once I get to Montreal (or other cities I visit).

As it has been many years since I've been to Montreal (have favored Toronto but want to return to Montreal), I have been following the threads, especially about hotels and locations. I have ruled out Airbnb due to privacy wanted if do any outcalls but if convenient more interested in incalls and massage places. I am not into most of the sex stuff most are like DFK etc. And think large breasts are ugly. Give me slim, not over see and with a personality that enjoys intimacy. This has always been my interest.

I was one of the first to coin the term GFE back when we had 300 baud dialups and only newsgroups before websites. The original meaning has been perverted since it had nothing to do with any sex acts. But a genuine for the moment interaction as a warm human for the time together like a GF, even if paid for and if would never see again.

I have never been on public transit since a kid and rely on Uber or short walks. It seems Uber is no problem in Montreal. Before Covid, I went all over Frankfurt Germany FKKs etc on Uber even though I was near the Main Train Station. I am 75 years old but no health issues but am a couch potato. Or in my office chair working. And really not into walking more than 10 minutes for an incall. I have never not rented a car since I typically avoid downtowns- stay in Mississauga / airport area in Toronto which has scads of agency incalls near by. However, Montreal is so concentrated downtown my plan is to Uber and not rent a car.

My only minor hesitation why it has taken so long to return to Montreal is I speak no French and have a hard time with accents even if speaks English. However, there are many positive aspects of Montreal that tug at me to return. I may meet a long-time friend in Toronto, who is more familiar with Montreal. We may take the train from Toronto to Montreal and then each fly back to our home cities. He also has other interests in Montreal not just of the more intimate nature.

[QUOTE=DavePhx;2697454]Is there any way maybe privately I can find out more exact locations of major incalls? I assume agencies won't tell till book. I am a pre-planning nerd famous for my spreadsheets of potential escorts etc based on lots of review reading for a month or so before a trip. Sometimes I have them at 3 levels. When I arrive and want to see someone just compare the current schedule on the website to my spreadsheet which to me is more efficient than just picking by a day without time to research.

Likewise, ideally, I prepare maps ahead of time of locations (like incalls, massage, strip clubs) and may set up my GPS for them which makes it far easier once I get to Montreal (or other cities I visit).

I have ruled out Airbnb due to privacy wanted if do any outcalls but if convenient more interested in incalls and massage places.

I was one of the first to coin the term GFE back when we had 300 baud dialups and only newsgroups before websites.[/QUOTE]I'm going to stick what I said "don't overthink it". Also, I have not been to MTL since COVID. The agencies do change their locations once in awhile. The major incall agencies people focus on EscortXO and Euphoria are always near downtown. If you need more guidance, look at a metro map. If you stay near the green line or orange line between where they intersect Berri-UQAM and Lionel-Groulx, you will be near their incall locations. Since you want to Uber, you don't have to be on top of a Metro but the Metro map gives you good markers.

I would not rule out Airbnb. Again, many neighborhoods near downtown have higher rise buildings where privacy is not a concern. In fact if you peruse listings, you will see some units are owned by the same person in different buildings. They are running a Airbnb business and most likely don't live in the building.

Someone else might have more advice, but Montreal strip clubs are no longer what they once were. It's far from the days, where hot women were offering intense dances and backroom action. I have no experience with massage parlors, but what they will offer a newcomer seems opaque. Regular clients establish trust with the MP girls.

If you are from Phoenix and remember 300 baud dial-ups, you might remember a guy who wrote an on-line bible on Nevada brothels. Somehow I think his on-line handle was Bump.

[QUOTE=DavePhx;2697454]Is there any way maybe privately I can find out more exact locations of major incalls? I assume agencies won't tell till book. I am a pre-planning nerd famous for my spreadsheets of potential escorts etc based on lots of review reading for a month or so before a trip. Sometimes I have them at 3 levels. When I arrive and want to see someone just compare the current schedule on the website to my spreadsheet which to me is more efficient than just picking by a day without time to research.

Likewise, ideally, I prepare maps ahead of time of locations (like incalls, massage, strip clubs) and may set up my GPS for them which makes it far easier once I get to Montreal (or other cities I visit).

As it has been many years since I've been to Montreal (have favored Toronto but want to return to Montreal), I have been following the threads, especially about hotels and locations. I have ruled out Airbnb due to privacy wanted if do any outcalls but if convenient more interested in incalls and massage places. I am not into most of the sex stuff most are like DFK etc. And think large breasts are ugly. Give me slim, not over see and with a personality that enjoys intimacy. This has always been my interest..[/QUOTE]Subway station.

Agency.

XO: lionel-groulx (5 min walk).

Euphoria: Bonaventure (walk out via south exit, 5 minute walk).

Velvet: Mt-Royal (3 minute walk).

MP.

MP LE Penthouse: De la Savane (blue line, a bit far out).

MP YPG: Beaudry (in the gay village).

Excited for my upcoming visit. One question, may be over thinking it but how do I answer "What is the reason for your visit?" in customs? Can I just say vacation and I just plan on being a tourist. It will be my third time in 5 years and I'll be staying for 10 days. Plus I'm a middle aged single guy. What reasons do regular visitors use?

[QUOTE=StrawMan83;2698907]Excited for my upcoming visit. One question, may be over thinking it but how do I answer "What is the reason for your visit?" in customs? Can I just say vacation and I just plan on being a tourist. It will be my third time in 5 years and I'll be staying for 10 days. Plus I'm a middle aged single guy. What reasons do regular visitors use?[/QUOTE]Yes, that is not excessive.

Say you haven't gotten to travel much the last few years, but Europe is too expensive in terms of flight prices or award miles needed to travel (which is true), and the flight schedules are too limited to Asia / Australia, and South America is too dangerous for your tastes (assuming you are coming from the USA). Just focus on the things you are going to do other than buying sex, like bike riding, hiking, etc.

Honestly the big scrutiny is on single guys traveling a lot and staying a day or two or three. They think you might be smuggling drugs. So you get more scrutiny. Your facts don't meet that criteria. Even short trips are okay, you just say you had two free hotel award nights, so you are staying two nights and you are too busy at work to stay longer. If they look through your bags occasionally due to it being a short trip that you take often, it isn't that big of a deal. They ignore condoms. It isn't wise to have a running text stream with an escort that can be accessed by only entering the phone code. So delete that type of text history just to be sure. Don't have an email app with your hobby email showing, either.

[QUOTE=StrawMan83;2698907]Excited for my upcoming visit. One question, may be over thinking it but how do I answer "What is the reason for your visit?" in customs? Can I just say vacation and I just plan on being a tourist. It will be my third time in 5 years and I'll be staying for 10 days. Plus I'm a middle aged single guy. What reasons do regular visitors use?[/QUOTE]Vacation should work. And if you want you could say vacation because I like the escorts in Montreal. They won't give a shit about that.

The only question I would turn around would be "Do you offer women money for sex?" No. They ask me for money, I have never had to offer anything. But you will never get that, they really don't care. And nor do the police as far as I know.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2699073]Vacation should work. And if you want you could say vacation because I like the escorts in Montreal. They won't give a shit about that.

The only question I would turn around would be "Do you offer women money for sex?" No. They ask me for money, I have never had to offer anything. But you will never get that, they really don't care. And nor do the police as far as I know.[/QUOTE]An American gets more questions entering Canada than any other country in the western world, and there was a credible report on the green board of a guy who was selected for additional security screening (usually a bag search, but in his situation they made him unlock his electronics) being refused entry when they read his text messages with escort agencies. They did not list that as the reason, but he thought it was. So that is why many of us are cautious.

Consistently saying you are going on vacation and you like the city and countryside works. But there is no reason to even mention sex, in my opinion. The Prioritization Policy that protects us from see-36 is purely a local police pronouncement for metro Montreal, Toronto and Vancouver. Customs and Birder Patrol is federal, unpredictable, and can deny entry with no due process.

[QUOTE=StrawMan83;2698907]Excited for my upcoming visit. One question, may be over thinking it but how do I answer "What is the reason for your visit?" in customs? Can I just say vacation and I just plan on being a tourist. It will be my third time in 5 years and I'll be staying for 10 days. Plus I'm a middle aged single guy. What reasons do regular visitors use?[/QUOTE]I would suggest you look at an events calendar for your time in Montreal. In the summer, there are many festivals. In the autumn-winter-spring period, there is hockey.

Since I like many forms of music, comedy, Formula 1 and the Montreal Canadians, it's pretty easy for me to answer that question. Of course, that doesn't mean you have to actually do any of these things.

Funny video below. Don't pack like this guy.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpeIymIqTa0[/URL]

FWIW I breezed thru customs on my last trip a few weeks ago. The interview lasted about 5 seconds and consisted of asking me my reason for visiting. I said (mostly) tourism as I do have conceivable business there. They want to know what your local address is. They have so many people to process that you're very unlikely to be questioned unless you stand out in some dramatic way. Also make sure you have registered your visit with ArriveCAN app, uploading your vaccine & passport info. I had a problem doing this on my iPad but it was OK once I switched to a laptop (go figure). The people at the help desk were. Helpful surprisingly.

The legal status of our hobby in Canada is interesting. From M88's post I gather that it is de jure illegal but unenforced? This means that the whole scene can disappear tomorrow. Witness what happened in Argentina for example. Montreal is a real gem in the international mongering scene. High quality girls at reasonable prices all transacted in English. And not least of all because it has a vibrant local board. So visit while they are looking the other way, it won't go on forever. And remember a battle is coming as the millions of blue nosed, envious, bitter people want to come after us, once they're done with unwed mothers, gays, contraception users and other deviants.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2699111]
Consistently saying you are going on vacation and you like the city and countryside works. But there is no reason to even mention sex, in my opinion. The Prioritization Policy that protects us from see-36 is purely a local police pronouncement for metro Montreal, Toronto and Vancouver. Customs and Birder Patrol is federal, unpredictable, and can deny entry with no due process.[/QUOTE].

Yes, 49 out of 50 times there is no problem. But every once in a while they give you the dreaded card of a certain color where you go in another room, they look through your bags, and often ask you to unlock your cell phone while they scroll though your messages. No reason to leave them low-hanging fruit like a recent conversation confirming that Sunshine allows CIM.

Escorting is almost impossible to make disappear, and our hobby is alive and well even in the USA And in Argentina from an escorting perspective.

The escort sells time and companionship, which is legal, even in situations where the sale of sex is not legal. It is very easy for the government to make incalls with published addresses and licenses go away, particularly if many ladies work at the place at one time.

Escorting has never been as popular on ISG as venues where the customer sees several ladies at once and interacts with them. It works best when we freely share information through reviews.

[QUOTE=HarvestBoi;2699205]FWIW I breezed thru customs on my last trip a few weeks ago. The interview lasted about 5 seconds and consisted of asking me my reason for visiting. I said (mostly) tourism as I do have conceivable business there. They want to know what your local address is. They have so many people to process that you're very unlikely to be questioned unless you stand out in some dramatic way. Also make sure you have registered your visit with ArriveCAN app, uploading your vaccine & passport info. I had a problem doing this on my iPad but it was OK once I switched to a laptop (go figure). The people at the help desk were. Helpful surprisingly..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HarvestBoi;2699205]And remember a battle is coming as the millions of blue nosed, envious, bitter people want to come after us, once they're done with unwed mothers, gays, contraception users and other deviants..[/QUOTE]I don't know if you are joking, politicking or both. Remember the conservatives will find some willing allies among the feminazis.

When you put things in a box, it's easy to leave things out. Nevada was a hardcore Red state and they have always had totally legalized prostitution. I also knew of some "look the other way" bordellos in the rural South that have gone extinct in the last few decades. Strange, but true.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2699218]Yes, 49 out of 50 times there is no problem. But every once in a while they give you the dreaded card of a certain color where you go in another room, they look through your bags, and often ask you to unlock your cell phone while they scroll though your messages. No reason to leave them low-hanging fruit like a recent conversation confirming that Sunshine allows CIM.
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Escorting has never been as popular on ISG as venues where the customer sees several ladies at once and interacts with them. It works best when we freely share information through reviews.[/QUOTE]Yes, most of the time the border agent doesn't even seem to be listening to my answer as to why I am visiting Canada. However, I have been grilled as to my purpose there. They weren't necessarily focused on stopping foreign sex mongers. However, they can be dicks trying to make sure you're not illegally working in Canada, trafficking drugs or other illegal activities. So if you are stupid enough to leave them breadcrumbs that you are meeting escorts, yeah they might keep you out.

M88, it's funny how, yes the ISG membership is very interested in venues with many women to see and choose. If you have traveled abroad and enjoyed these venues, it is a head rush. They generally don't exist in the First World with the exception of the German speaking countries.

I think that's why ISG members are curious about the Montreal massage parlors and strip clubs. One can have a great time if they do some MTL escort research.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2699111] But there is no reason to even mention sex, in my opinion. The Prioritization Policy that protects us from see-36 is purely a local police pronouncement for metro Montreal, Toronto and Vancouver. Customs and Birder Patrol is federal, unpredictable, and can deny entry with no due process.[/QUOTE]I totally agree mi amigo. It's like wearing a marijuana leaf tshirt when you drive through. These guys know what's going on. They don't want their face rubbed in it.

Best Regards.

Smuler.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2699218]
Escorting is almost impossible to make disappear, and our hobby is alive and well even in the USA And in Argentina from an escorting perspective.
It works best when we freely share information through reviews.[/QUOTE]Maybe so but any scene can be made so much less friendly and more expensive. My local scene lost it's best review ad board about 5 years ago because "traphicking". Before that, while spendy by ISG standards, I was a happy camper. I had a rotation of 5 girls and could search the board for likely players off the bench. When the board was shut, the result was a flood of low looks scammers and cheats. Escorts who were good then priced themselves 2-3 times higher. And of course, because there was no local board for QA you could never be sure whether that centerfold who looked good was photoshopped, non-GFE etc. So spending more money didn't help. I tried * and P411 but once a tute has found her way there, she's not going to be a fresh faced unicorn anymore. And of course, the AAMPs, where likely traphicking IS sometimes taking place, they go on as if nothin has changed. For the record, I never encountered an escort who claimed she was forced into it. In fact, I spoke to some of the MTL girls I saw and they were scornfully dismissive of the idea.

A good local board is key but it can be shut down by an aggressive prosecutor.

I usually get asked the reason for my visit, if I'm traveling alone and how I met my supposed friend (s) in Montreal. Also, I get asked if I've been there before. I practically live there part time LOL.

Once I was asked to go to secondary screening, and strangely enough it was late at night. More questions along the same lines, my profession and why am I there. Their tone was firm and direct, but I was not intimidated. One time the guy asked the same thing twice, and I looked at him like really? I answered again anyhow but he made an excuse for it, I just said it's been a long day huh? He acknowledged. I wouldn't get caught up on the questioning too much.

On the topic of girls, locations and restaurants, I've continued to expand my horizons and visited some restaurants on recent visits.

Euphoria seems to be loading up their roster, many new girls on my TDL. XO has a few new ones as well. I used to be a big fan of Vog on initial trips due to their outcalls, but I think they're falling behind on girls. I think agencies keep tabs on their computers about your mileage, and that helps with setting appointments. One thing I did is I used each agency one at a time until I built some rapport, now it seems it's easier to book.

I visited March Atwater recently, nice market and the area around it is nice to walk around. Some good restaurants can be found around too. I tried Modavie in Old port, I thought it was overrated. Same with Gibby's steakhouse, long waits and just okay for me.

Les Pyrandes was good if you're looking for some paella, it's a Catalan restaurant.

I'd appreciate any other restaurant recommendations, I'd like to treat a young lady to a nice meal from time to time.

Seems like nearly all the agencies only offer 1 hour sessions in Montreal. Is that everyone's experience? Any agencies known to offer 30 minute incalls?

Take into consideration that I try to take the Viagra on an empty stomach and I had just finished an excellent session, but I thought this place was fantastic.

[URL]https://www.britandchips.com/[/URL]

[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2699331]I usually get asked the reason for my visit, if I'm traveling alone and how I met my supposed friend (s) in Montreal. Also, I get asked if I've been there before. I practically live there part time LOL.

Once I was asked to go to secondary screening, and strangely enough it was late at night. More questions along the same lines, my profession and why am I there. Their tone was firm and direct, but I was not intimidated. One time the guy asked the same thing twice, and I looked at him like really? I answered again anyhow but he made an excuse for it, I just said it's been a long day huh? He acknowledged. I wouldn't get caught up on the questioning too much.

On the topic of girls, locations and restaurants, I've continued to expand my horizons and visited some restaurants on recent visits.

Euphoria seems to be loading up their roster, many new girls on my TDL. XO has a few new ones as well. I used to be a big fan of Vog on initial trips due to their outcalls, but I think they're falling behind on girls. I think agencies keep tabs on their computers about your mileage, and that helps with setting appointments. One thing I did is I used each agency one at a time until I built some rapport, now it seems it's easier to book..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ctytek;2700057]Seems like nearly all the agencies only offer 1 hour sessions in Montreal. Is that everyone's experience? Any agencies known to offer 30 minute incalls?[/QUOTE]Mae88 does offer 30 minute incalls.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2700066][URL]https://www.britandchips.com/[/URL][/QUOTE]This place is owned by the British Pub, the Burgundy Lion group in Griffintown.

It was not too far from that Airbnb that I had.

Best Regards.

Smuler.

Keeping in mind I like average size girls without piercings, too many tattoos and fake tits, here are my top targets for next week. I'm pretty simple, I value BBBJ, English, and friendly types.

1. Holly (Euphoria).

2. Khloe (Euphoria).

3. Yana (Euphoria).

4. Ruby (Velvet Love).

5. Arielle (XO).

6. Kate (XO).

7. Kylie (Euphoria).

8. Maeva (Luxury).

9. Crystal (VOG).

10. Estelle (XO).

11. Harley (XO).

12. Leah (XO).

13. Brooke (Euphoria).

14. Erika (Euphoria).

15. Mila (Euphoria).

16. Nadia (Euphoria).

17. Paisley (Euphoria).

18. Stella (Euphoria).

19. Taylor (Euphoria).

20. Kourtney (Luxury).

Please let me know if there is anyone here to avoid or if there are any recommendations based on my tastes. I also want to try COF, roleplaying and a three-way.

Thanks for the help. In return, I promise detailed reviews as always.

Harvestboi, I love your daily schedule, think mine will be similar Quick question Harvestboi, I will be there for 10 days from 6/22-7/2. Can I use my credit card anywhere in Montreal? Do all agencies take credit card? If not, how much do you think I should withdraw from ATM for the 10 days? Thanks much!

[QUOTE=Jay2574;2694407]Thanks for the info Harvestboi. After reading your report, I plan to make a trip out to Montreal myself this coming up summer. A couple of questions for you. 1) I plan to stay for a week, check out the Montreal tourist scene in the morning, and escort service in the afternoon. I want to stay close to agencies like XO, Euphoria, Vogue, any 4/5 star hotel recommendations? 2) Should I get a rental car? Or just Uber? 3) how much is the service? Do I need to pay extra for cum? 4) I am into pale skin girls, any specific girl you recommend from those agencies you used? 5) how is the facilities and girls compared to German FKKs? Thanks much in advanced![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=StrawMan83;2700421]Keeping in mind I like average size girls without piercings, too many tattoos and fake tits, here are my top targets for next week. I'm pretty simple, I value BBBJ, English, and friendly types.

19. Taylor (Euphoria).[/QUOTE]I took a quick glance and Taylor jumped out. She is very pretty with a nice natural body. However, she has a large tattoo on her back and speaks limited English. I'm not sure how much you like to talk. I've been with women all over the world and the language thing seems to get worked out. In any event, I'm sure Taylor speaks enough English.

Yes normal vendors will all take cards. I use one that waves foreign transaction fees (can be high as 3%- adds up). I don't think the agencies use cards for the girls. I have never tried because I think it wiser to leave no paper trail and just bring cash. I can recommend this place to exchange currency. [URL]https://www.bureaudechangemtl.com/.[/URL] Fair rate and easy to deal with.

[QUOTE=Jay2574;2700474]Harvestboi, I love your daily schedule, think mine will be similar Quick question Harvestboi, I will be there for 10 days from 6/22-7/2. Can I use my credit card anywhere in Montreal? Do all agencies take credit card? If not, how much do you think I should withdraw from ATM for the 10 days? Thanks much![/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Jay2574;2700474]Harvestboi, I love your daily schedule, think mine will be similar Quick question Harvestboi, I will be there for 10 days from 6/22-7/2. Can I use my credit card anywhere in Montreal? Do all agencies take credit card? If not, how much do you think I should withdraw from ATM for the 10 days? Thanks much![/QUOTE]Your getting into all the foreign traveler questions that are quite common. My opinion is that smart travelers don't bring a lot of cash, but that is from my personal opinion and preparation. You can use your credit card almost anywhere in Montreal. However, I don't believe the agency girls accept credit card.

A lot of foreign travelers recommend a Schwab ATM card. It gets mentioned by several members on various threads here. Your ATM withdrawals anywhere in the world are reimbursed and there are no foreign exchange fees.

If you still need to bring over a lot of cash to Montreal, Bureau de Change as Harvestboi mentioned is a good foreign exchange venue.

Planning out one's use of cash during a trip is very specific to the traveler. You know agency girls cost about 250 Canadian dollars (approximately 200 USA Dollars). I would guess Kate at XO might be 300 or 350 since the agency asks you to inquire about prices. Escorts are obviously your biggest cash expense.

Strawman,

Sadly, girls without tattoos are becoming a rare thing these days LOL & what constitutes "too many" is a matter of taste. I don't like them but if a girl is hot enough I look beyond it. You can't always tell from the photo. I saw Elie at Euphoria who has big chest and neck tattoos that are airbrushed. She reminded me of the pornstar Annabelle Peaks, who I've fapped to in the past. Her service was good if a bit professional but it was a good session. I will not repeat because there are so many targets, as your post demonstrates.

Our tastes diverge, I like implants if well done & proportionate. On your list, I saw Crystal who is fun, natural and probably a good role play candidate; we did a bit of that during my session. I saw Brooke on a previous visit and definitely recommend but she is enhanced. Beautiful face, like a young Genevieve Bujold. I have seen about 2 dozen girls during my trips so far and there was only one who didn't speak any English but it was either Brooke or Noemie, I can't remember. Crystal's English was fluent. There's always Google translate. Many of your others will have multi page reviews on the local board. I don't know what constitutes "normal size" but I thought Juliette's (Euphoria) pictures made her look more BBW than she was in person. She was really fun, naturally sexy and could be a good role play or 3 some partner. The usual caveats about 3 somes applies. As usual YMMV. Hope this helps.

Hb.

[QUOTE=StrawMan83;2700421]Keeping in mind I like average size girls without piercings, too many tattoos and fake tits, here are my top targets for next week. I'm pretty simple, I value BBBJ, English, and friendly types.

1. Holly (Euphoria).

2. Khloe (Euphoria).

3. Yana (Euphoria).

4. Ruby (Velvet Love).

5. Arielle (XO).

6. Kate (XO).

7. Kylie (Euphoria).

8. Maeva (Luxury).

9. Crystal (VOG).

10. Estelle (XO).

11. Harley (XO).

12. Leah (XO).

13. Brooke (Euphoria).

14. Erika (Euphoria).

15. Mila (Euphoria).

16. Nadia (Euphoria).

17. Paisley (Euphoria).

18. Stella (Euphoria).

19. Taylor (Euphoria).

20. Kourtney (Luxury).

Please let me know if there is anyone here to avoid or if there are any recommendations based on my tastes. I also want to try COF, roleplaying and a three-way.

Thanks for the help. In return, I promise detailed reviews as always.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the tips HB. I really just want to avoid pierced or hard boobs. I hope to see 8 girls so not everyone will be perfect.

[QUOTE=HarvestBoi;2700687]Strawman,

Sadly, girls without tattoos are becoming a rare thing these days LOL & what constitutes "too many" is a matter of taste. I don't like them but if a girl is hot enough I look beyond it. You can't always tell from the photo. I saw Elie at Euphoria who has big chest and neck tattoos that are airbrushed. She reminded me of the pornstar Annabelle Peaks, who I've fapped to in the past. Her service was good if a bit professional but it was a good session. I will not repeat because there are so many targets, as your post demonstrates.

Our tastes diverge, I like implants if well done & proportionate. On your list, I saw Crystal who is fun, natural and probably a good role play candidate; we did a bit of that during my session. I saw Brooke on a previous visit and definitely recommend but she is enhanced. Beautiful face, like a young Genevieve Bujold. I have seen about 2 dozen girls during my trips so far and there was only one who didn't speak any English but it was either Brooke or Noemie, I can't remember. Crystal's English was fluent. There's always Google translate. Many of your others will have multi page reviews on the local board. I don't know what constitutes "normal size" but I thought Juliette's (Euphoria) pictures made her look more BBW than she was in person. She was really fun, naturally sexy and could be a good role play or 3 some partner. The usual caveats about 3 somes applies. As usual YMMV..[/QUOTE]

Good list. I would be prepared for alternate daily plans, since some girls are not scheduled sometimes for a whole week and ruling out someone based off tattoos or fake tits is going to thin out your prospects significantly.

Example:

Arielle at XO hasn't been on schedule for at least 6 weeks.

Harley, Yana & Taylor book real fast and are not scheduled frequently either.

Kate is usually weekly, and a great choice to get nasty and kinky with.

Crystal at Vog I have a different opinion than some locals, I guess having tasted Latinas from Brazil spoiled me but she's a bit overweight and her attitude wasn't great with me, I would skip.

Leah has some tattoos but she is a great one, she likes it a bit rough too!

Elizabeth at XO has no tattoos either and natural, great girl.

I also don't see you having Eleonore at VOG on your TDL, she has no tattoos and all natural spinner. She is amazing, I would see her weekly if I lived there. Throw in Becca & Bianka too!

Have fun!

[QUOTE=StrawMan83;2700421]Keeping in mind I like average size girls without piercings, too many tattoos and fake tits, here are my top targets for next week. I'm pretty simple, I value BBBJ, English, and friendly types.

1. Holly (Euphoria).

2. Khloe (Euphoria).

3. Yana (Euphoria).

4. Ruby (Velvet Love).

5. Arielle (XO).

6. Kate (XO).

7. Kylie (Euphoria).

8. Maeva (Luxury).

9. Crystal (VOG).

10. Estelle (XO).

11. Harley (XO).

12. Leah (XO).

13. Brooke (Euphoria).

14. Erika (Euphoria).

15. Mila (Euphoria).

16. Nadia (Euphoria).

17. Paisley (Euphoria).

18. Stella (Euphoria).

19. Taylor (Euphoria).

20. Kourtney (Luxury).

Please let me know if there is anyone here to avoid or if there are any recommendations based on my tastes. I also want to try COF, roleplaying and a three-way.

Thanks for the help. In return, I promise detailed reviews as always.[/QUOTE]

I've dug around and could not find much on LE Penthouse here. Does anyone have any intel on the services offered?

They seem to have a photoshopped line up, but a few have caught my eye (Luna, Layla, Lisa).

[QUOTE=JoeThighsMan;2702798]I've dug around and could not find much on LE Penthouse here. Does anyone have any intel on the services offered?

They seem to have a photoshopped line up, but a few have caught my eye (Luna, Layla, Lisa).[/QUOTE]I was in Canada Pre-Covid, so things may have changed. I believe it was like $200 per hour (part of that is the house fee). Pick a girl. You get a few minute massage, then she discusses what you want. Do your deed and you are done in 15 minutes. (I paid for the hour).

Good looking girls. Coming from the USA, I thought it was rub and tug. It's more of what you would get at an Asian massage place off the high way, fulfilling service.

I went preCovid. Room was $60 or something an hour. Pick a girl. I think she wanted between 120-200 in the room depending what you wanted. Services were very GFE.

I was expecting a rub and tug place and make the money I had last a few visits. I was wrong.

Girls were good looking, would repeat.

[QUOTE=JoeThighsMan;2702798]I've dug around and could not find much on LE Penthouse here. Does anyone have any intel on the services offered?

They seem to have a photoshopped line up, but a few have caught my eye (Luna, Layla, Lisa).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Necrochaos1;2703714]I went preCovid. Room was $60 or something an hour. Pick a girl. I think she wanted between 120-200 in the room depending what you wanted. Services were very GFE.

I was expecting a rub and tug place and make the money I had last a few visits. I was wrong.

Girls were good looking, would repeat.[/QUOTE]Awesome! Thank you for the advice.

I'm from NYC where the AMP are GFE and stock full of gorgeous Koreans. I'm looking forward to reporting back on my Penthouse experience!

[QUOTE=JoeThighsMan;2703755]Awesome! Thank you for the advice.

I'm from NYC where the AMP are GFE and stock full of gorgeous Koreans. I'm looking forward to reporting back on my Penthouse experience![/QUOTE]Before covid Penthouse was known as the place the most beautiful SP would move as soon as they could. They got more $, stayed incall only and very often for less work.

Now I don't know. Honestly the market changed a lot since covid. Hopefully you will report some feedback.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2704189]Before covid Penthouse was known as the place the most beautiful SP would move as soon as they could. They got more $, stayed incall only and very often for less work.

Now I don't know. Honestly the market changed a lot since covid. Hopefully you will report some feedback.[/QUOTE]Maya's line up is pretty impressive at the moment. Technically Nikky and Mikaella are also available for SP bookings, so I assume they can do full GFE. Although Victoria is also on xxxtase website, she barely ever worked for them, so not sure if she would do everything. I never been much of a massage place guy personally, but Maya's line up is really impressive, if only they were not that far from downtown Montreal. It seem those massage places are always located in far regions. At least the major agencies have their incalls conveniently downtown.

I am interested in Asians, I think I read one post about Mae88, what's the scoop on this place?

Any other ways to meet Asians. Chinese, Koreans, Thai, Filipinas etc?

[QUOTE=BobKelso954;2704730]I am interested in Asians, I think I read one post about Mae88, what's the scoop on this place?

Any other ways to meet Asians. Chinese, Koreans, Thai, Filipinas etc?[/QUOTE]Mae88 is really a miss and hit thing. Once in a while you hear someone is good. Most of the time not.

Asian in Montreal? It's a rarity. XO currently has 2 in their line up but never heard about them yet.

[QUOTE=JosephBrenner;2704407]Maya's line up is pretty impressive at the moment. Technically Nikky and Mikaella are also available for SP bookings, so I assume they can do full GFE. Although Victoria is also on xxxtase website, she barely ever worked for them, so not sure if she would do everything. I never been much of a massage place guy personally, but Maya's line up is really impressive, if only they were not that far from downtown Montreal. It seem those massage places are always located in far regions. At least the major agencies have their incalls conveniently downtown.[/QUOTE]I so much agree with you. I had forgot about Maya. But I am not an MP guy myself as well.

[QUOTE=BobKelso954;2704730]I think I read one post about Mae88, what's the scoop on this place?[/QUOTE]Stay away. Period.

[QUOTE=BobKelso954;2704730]I am interested in Asians, I think I read one post about Mae88, what's the scoop on this place?

Any other ways to meet Asians. Chinese, Koreans, Thai, Filipinas etc?[/QUOTE]If you are a cheap Charlie, this isn't going to help much, but the excellent Vog agency is trying to be more diverse, and has added two new Asians and a couple of black ladies.

You might give them a try.

[URL]https://vogmtl.com/escortes/[/URL]

[QUOTE=BobKelso954;2704730]I am interested in Asians, I think I read one post about Mae88, what's the scoop on this place?[/QUOTE]MAE88 pre-COVID was fine, but their line up is currently bare bones. If you're into Asians, Toronto, Vancouver, even Edmonton / Calgary have better options to Montreal.

If booking MAE, stick with Korean girls, Chinese escorts are very hit and miss. Unfortunate because back in the early 2000's before the Koreans swamped the market, many Chinese escorts were pretty good. Nowadays, they're either old ladies or young girls that cost $$$ and have little experience.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2704830]If you are a cheap Charlie, this isn't going to help much, but the excellent Vog agency is trying to be more diverse, and has added two new Asians and a couple of black ladies.

You might give them a try.

[URL]https://vogmtl.com/escortes/[/URL][/QUOTE]I really like Savana's breasts. They look unaugmented too.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2707494]I really like Savana's breasts. They look unaugmented too.[/QUOTE]Vogue generally calls attention to natural with their girls who are natural see cups or higher. They do not however denote enhanced breasts like Euphoria. I think it's rather a case of understanding the omission.

So vogue does NOT do incall where I go to their apts correct?

I am getting ready for my first Montreal trip, since I live in an airbnb, I will only do incalls where I go to their place.

I will visit europia, xo, and I am also interested in LEPenthouse, does LE work the same ways as xo and euphoria where I contact the agency to setup appointment for the following day? Any other escorts or massage parlors I should visit? Don't really worry about how much I'll spend, I just want to have a good time! Any high end places I should go to?

Also since I don't have a local Canadian cell phone, I'll be using my textnow app to call them, is that going to be a problem? Also, how do I let them know I am legit customer?

Thanks all in advance for your advice, this forum has provided many invaluable info, and I am thankful!!

[QUOTE=Turgid;2707494]I really like Savana's breasts. They look unaugmented too.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jay2574;2707677]So vogue does NOT do incall where I go to their apts correct?

I am getting ready for my first Montreal trip, since I live in an airbnb, I will only do incalls where I go to their place.

I will visit europia, xo, and I am also interested in LEPenthouse, does LE work the same ways as xo and euphoria where I contact the agency to setup appointment for the following day? Any other escorts or massage parlors I should visit? Don't really worry about how much I'll spend, I just want to have a good time! Any high end places I should go to?

Also since I don't have a local Canadian cell phone, I'll be using my textnow app to call them, is that going to be a problem? Also, how do I let them know I am legit customer?

Thanks all in advance for your advice, this forum has provided many invaluable info, and I am thankful!![/QUOTE]If you are staying in downtown in a hotel I would consider trying Vogue for outcalls, they don't have an incall, girls come to you. LePenthouse you can call and make an appointment with a girl you've picked, its preferred. If you show up asking for a presentation chances are the hottest girls will be busy, the place is about 20-30 min away from downtown, so it would be better to make an appointment.

[QUOTE=Jay2574;2707677]So vogue does NOT do incall where I go to their apts correct?

I am getting ready for my first Montreal trip, since I live in an airbnb, I will only do incalls where I go to their place.

I will visit europia, xo, and I am also interested in LEPenthouse, does LE work the same ways as xo and euphoria where I contact the agency to setup appointment for the following day? Any other escorts or massage parlors I should visit? Don't really worry about how much I'll spend, I just want to have a good time! Any high end places I should go to?

Also since I don't have a local Canadian cell phone, I'll be using my textnow app to call them, is that going to be a problem? Also, how do I let them know I am legit customer?

Thanks all in advance for your advice, this forum has provided many invaluable info, and I am thankful!![/QUOTE]You know your cell phone plan better than me, I guess. But for USA Folks, some carriers will add Canada roaming for $0-$10 more a month. Some agencies don't like anonymous text apps, at least according to their ads. You might consider joining the local board that is mentioned in this thread and private message them in conjunction with an anonymous text app.

[QUOTE=Jay2574;2707677]Also since I don't have a local Canadian cell phone, I'll be using my textnow app to call them, is that going to be a problem? Also, how do I let them know I am legit customer?[/QUOTE]I think using a text app will be an issue. The Canadian agencies aren't too fussy about setting up appointments with tourists, but I think they want to see a Canadian number on the other side to assure you are actually in Canada.

Walk into a convenience store in Montreal and buy a cheap SIM card.

I always use my US cell phone when in Montreal. My carrier adds a daily fee but it's worth it, mostly for the use of the data for navigation. None of the agencies had any problem responding by voice or text to that number.

[QUOTE=HarvestBoi;2707975]I always use my US cell phone when in Montreal. My carrier adds a daily fee but it's worth it, mostly for the use of the data for navigation. None of the agencies had any problem responding by voice or text to that number.[/QUOTE]Yes, I misspoke. If you use your USA Phone, you will be fine.

I believe the agencies don't like these anonymous text apps. I know for sure in Toronto some of the agency websites expressly say they won't respond to text apps.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2708050]Yes, I misspoke. If you use your USA Phone, you will be fine.

I believe the agencies don't like these anonymous text apps. I know for sure in Toronto some of the agency websites expressly say they won't respond to text apps.[/QUOTE]I just got back from Montreal (reviews to come). I bought a phone app so calls and texts with agencies would not appear on my phone bill. It was a Canadian number but this proved not to matter. The first agency I texted asked me to message them from my green board account and reference my username and phone #. Once I did that, they accepted my texts on the app. I messaged several agencies from the green board to tell them I was legit.

This was good enough for everyone but Euphoria, they said they only accept real phone numbers so I had to use my personal number to book.

Next time I will buy a sim card since I don't want agency texts on my phone bill but that's my preference. The bookers do not mind US or CAN numbers.

I thought VOG did incall, can anyone confirm?

[QUOTE=JoeZakary;2708825]I thought VOG did incall, can anyone confirm?[/QUOTE]Vogue has been strictly outcall for several years. I'm not sure they ever offered incall.

What is a "green board" acct?

Thanks!

[QUOTE=StrawMan83;2708738]I just got back from Montreal (reviews to come). I bought a phone app so calls and texts with agencies would not appear on my phone bill. It was a Canadian number but this proved not to matter. The first agency I texted asked me to message them from my green board account and reference my username and phone #. Once I did that, they accepted my texts on the app. I messaged several agencies from the green board to tell them I was legit.

This was good enough for everyone but Euphoria, they said they only accept real phone numbers so I had to use my personal number to book.

Next time I will buy a sim card since I don't want agency texts on my phone bill but that's my preference. The bookers do not mind US or CAN numbers.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jay2574;2708915]What is a "green board" acct?

Thanks![/QUOTE]The local Montreal board at merb. CC.

[QUOTE=StrawMan83;2708738]I just got back from Montreal (reviews to come). I bought a phone app so calls and texts with agencies would not appear on my phone bill. It was a Canadian number but this proved not to matter. The first agency I texted asked me to message them from my green board account and reference my username and phone #. Once I did that, they accepted my texts on the app. I messaged several agencies from the green board to tell them I was legit.

This was good enough for everyone but Euphoria, they said they only accept real phone numbers so I had to use my personal number to book.

Next time I will buy a sim card since I don't want agency texts on my phone bill but that's my preference. The bookers do not mind US or CAN numbers.[/QUOTE]Now this is weird. Pre-Covid I used my mongering google voice phone with US number and no one had any issues. Has something changed recently. I have a trip planned next month. Can someone please help me? Do I have to buy a local real phone?

[QUOTE=Jay2574;2707677]So vogue does NOT do incall where I go to their apts correct?

I am getting ready for my first Montreal trip, since I live in an airbnb, I will only do incalls where I go to their place.

I will visit europia, xo, and I am also interested in LEPenthouse, does LE work the same ways as xo and euphoria where I contact the agency to setup appointment for the following day? Any other escorts or massage parlors I should visit? Don't really worry about how much I'll spend, I just want to have a good time! Any high end places I should go to?

Also since I don't have a local Canadian cell phone, I'll be using my textnow app to call them, is that going to be a problem? Also, how do I let them know I am legit customer?

Thanks all in advance for your advice, this forum has provided many invaluable info, and I am thankful!![/QUOTE]I do outcall to my hotel all the time in Montreal. Vogue, Euphoria, XO etc. Not an issue.

Hey guys,

One very important thing when you come to Montreal.

Tell Booker of agency to put you on waiting list. Let them know some day / time where you would be available upon very short notice. It does work I am telling you!

Cheers.

I actually replace my Verizon sim with Google Fi. Supposedly it will give me free text / call / data in Canada as well. Hopefully, that solves the problem of using a real US number instead of a text app.

I'll let you guy know if it works, once I get there.

[QUOTE=StrawMan83;2708738]I just got back from Montreal (reviews to come).
This was good enough for everyone but Euphoria, they said they only accept real phone numbers so I had to use my personal number to book..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jay2574;2709912]I actually replace my Verizon sim with Google Fi. Supposedly it will give me free text / call / data in Canada as well. Hopefully, that solves the problem of using a real US number instead of a text app.

I'll let you guy know if it works, once I get there.[/QUOTE]This always works. Verizon also works in Canada. There is no issue with phone service in Canada, this is not like mongering in South America or Europe where you need a special SIM. One thing you can do if you have a dual SIM phone is get a physical SIM from Google Fi, place it in your phone while keeping your main SIM in using the eSIM and now you have your mongering phone number plus your regular phone working in one device. I do this on an iPhone 13, works great. You can text the agencies from your mongering number and call them too.

[QUOTE=DirkMingInt;2709448]Now this is weird. Pre-Covid I used my mongering google voice phone with US number and no one had any issues. Has something changed recently. I have a trip planned next month. Can someone please help me? Do I have to buy a local real phone?[/QUOTE]As you can see, there's several ways to skin this cat. Canadian phone number, USA Phone number it should make no difference. Some of us that prefer anonymity buy Canadian SIM cards when we arrive. It sounds like you have solved the issue of anonymity by having a mongering phone.

If you have a USA Phone number, the booker might ask you if you are already in the city or something to that effect. It's been recommended here by several members to have a real phone number rather than a text app.

Great idea, I'll do that next time I book. If a girl I want is fully booked, I'll just tell them to put me on wait list, I'll take the slot, if there is late cancellation.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2709727]Hey guys,

One very important thing when you come to Montreal.

Tell Booker of agency to put you on waiting list. Let them know some day / time where you would be available upon very short notice. It does work I am telling you!

Cheers.[/QUOTE]

I notice many popular girls get booked up quickly, when is the daily schedule released? Should I book it the morning of, or the night before?

When do they stop taking calls / text?

[QUOTE=Jay2574;2710523]I notice many popular girls get booked up quickly, when is the daily schedule released? Should I book it the morning of, or the night before?

When do they stop taking calls / text?[/QUOTE]XO anytime as long as schedule is up. What I used to do is look at the schedule 2-3 weeks ahead of time to look at the pattern schedule of girl you want to see. Then ask booker to pre-book as soon as you know when you are in town. They may ask you to call later but more often then not they will pre-book you.

Euphoria. Schedule usually come out around 9 pm for the next day. It's the best time to text. They might do the booking for the next day or ask you to call the next morning. Depending on who is the booker.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2710965]XO anytime as long as schedule is up. What I used to do is look at the schedule 2-3 weeks ahead of time to look at the pattern schedule of girl you want to see. Then ask booker to pre-book as soon as you know when you are in town. They may ask you to call later but more often then not they will pre-book you.

Euphoria. Schedule usually come out around 9 pm for the next day. It's the best time to text. They might do the booking for the next day or ask you to call the next morning. Depending on who is the booker.[/QUOTE]Thanks Jalimon. This is a common question for Americans (or other foreigners) visiting Montreal. It helps to provide and update this info periodically.

I just realized my license expired.

Is this going to be a problem crossing the border? Do they only check your passport?

[QUOTE=ThatGuy23;2711566]I just realized my license expired.

Is this going to be a problem crossing the border? Do they only check your passport?[/QUOTE]They only check your passport.

[QUOTE=ThatGuy23;2711566]I just realized my license expired.

Is this going to be a problem crossing the border? Do they only check your passport?[/QUOTE]I always tough we needed to show our driver's license crossing the border by car. So I always showed it up front and actually never shown my passport. I think you should not take any chances and renew it before. Beside if you get arrested for speed limit or other shit you will be in big trouble.

I am a long-time monger in the US, planning out a Montreal trip next month. The info here and on the green board has been very valuable. I am planning a mix of MPs and escorts during my visit. For MPs, I am scouting out which providers are open to extras and have a fuller menu, but finding tipping info has been vague at best. Obviously, I can just stick with escorts, but I do loves me some massage. Thus, two questions:

*for MP providers that have a more open menu, does the room+tip end up being on par with the 250 for an escort, or more?

*the MPs offer different rooms with different rates and amenities. Is that merely for the amenities, or is there an implication that more extras may be considered in a room with a higher fee?

[QUOTE=Tripudulous;2712368]I am a long-time monger in the US, planning out a Montreal trip next month. The info here and on the green board has been very valuable. I am planning a mix of MPs and escorts during my visit. For MPs, I am scouting out which providers are open to extras and have a fuller menu, but finding tipping info has been vague at best. Obviously, I can just stick with escorts, but I do loves me some massage. Thus, two questions:

*for MP providers that have a more open menu, does the room+tip end up being on par with the 250 for an escort, or more?

*the MPs offer different rooms with different rates and amenities. Is that merely for the amenities, or is there an implication that more extras may be considered in a room with a higher fee?[/QUOTE]You can expect to pay a bit more at MPs. Choose good MP like YPG or Penthouse and you will be treated as good as agencies.

Second question is no. You pay a fee for the room. You pay more if you choose a bigger room with sofa, jacuzzi, etc. The extras remains the same.

I'm thinking of a last-minute trip to Montreal this weekend, as I've never been there before. For simplicity, I think I will stick to MP's and Agencies, unless anyone has another recommendation I have a few questions after reading through some of this thread:

1. What are the typical tips at MP's (HJ, BJ, FS)?

2. Are there any agencies that post particularly accurate photos?

3. What are the most accessible MP's or agency incalls either downtown or via Metro? I see YPG are within a short walk from a Metro station.

4. I've heard that Montreal strip clubs are particularly good, but am I correct in assuming that they still are not as good as escort services?

Thank you for any help.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2697789]Subway station.

Agency.

XO: lionel-groulx (5 min walk).

Euphoria: Bonaventure (walk out via south exit, 5 minute walk).

Velvet: Mt-Royal (3 minute walk).

MP.

MP LE Penthouse: De la Savane (blue line, a bit far out).

MP YPG: Beaudry (in the gay village).[/QUOTE]Thank you! This is extremely helpful.

[QUOTE=SexyBra;2713515]I'm thinking of a last-minute trip to Montreal this weekend, as I've never been there before. For simplicity, I think I will stick to MP's and Agencies, unless anyone has another recommendation I have a few questions after reading through some of this thread:

1. What are the typical tips at MP's (HJ, BJ, FS)?

2. Are there any agencies that post particularly accurate photos?

3. What are the most accessible MP's or agency incalls either downtown or via Metro? I see YPG are within a short walk from a Metro station.

4. I've heard that Montreal strip clubs are particularly good, but am I correct in assuming that they still are not as good as escort services?

Thank you for any help.[/QUOTE]1. Most MP's in Montreal can be viewed as escort agency.

2. No not really. Photo's do not mean much.

3. Closest to downtown is Euphoria. XO just a few metro station away.

4. Strip club are going down the drain. Thinking they can be good is like believing in maga. An old fart will try to convince you it's good and you will end up spending a lot of money for nothing haha.

I was in Montreal last month and had 6 girls. Below are my reviews.

-Khloe Euphoria. Had her the first thing in the morning. She looks like girl next door, very friendly. Blonde, pale and smooth skin. So totally my type. But very mechanical in bed, and no DFK, so that's a big turn-off for me. I was there for 45 minutes and I left. Will not repeat.

-Jade Euphoria. She has darker skin than what her pix show on the website, but she does have a cute face. A super warm personality and is talkative. She said she worked as a stripper for 5 years, so I had her dance for me. She's really good! In bed, great service and terrific BBBJ, the only drawback is she wouldn't let me touch her face. Other than that, it was a good experience. On top of that, she's very easy to talk to and genuinely a nice gal, I will repeat with her!

-Beatrice of XO. There is no picture of her on the website, but she's hot. Blonde, 175 cm, pretty face, very playful. My friend recommended her I decided to give her a try, great service. She liked it rough, so I would pull her nipples and spank her ass, and talk dirty to her. She loved it! Total GFE. I would definitely repeat with her.

-Heaven of Euphoria. She looks like one of those tall stuck-up Russian models, unapproachable. But that's very deceiving, she's actually a very nice girl when I started talking to her. She is very open-minded, has an amazing model body, also a great kisser. Terrific service in bed! In the end, she asked me to cum in her mouth and I happily obliged. She's so good that I tipped her extra.

-Matilde of XO. Blonde young girl with glasses. She has one of those school nerdy looks, pretty cute. Pale skin with the tattoo, she said she does those tags herself. Tall spinner. Very down to earth and easy to talk to. In bed, she provided great service, long BJ, and rim. I got a little rough with her and she seems to have enjoyed it. She lives far away so she only does this on Saturday. Very nice experience will repeat.

-Holly Euphoria: Tall spinner about 5'7, very skinny and flat-chested. She was kind of buzzed when I arrived, and she kept drinking some type of alcoholic seltzer, she said she would keep drinking that stuff while she works, kind of strange. She also like to talk nonstop and kept interrupting me when I try to talk, so I couldn't even get a word in. She goes on and on about her BF which is a mood killer. In the bedroom it was a disaster, minimum DFK, minimum touching, she just feel distance physically and mentality. Very disappointing. Will not repeat.

Final thought:

1) Google Fi works excellent in Canada, highly recommended and it's required to book. As they do not accept TextApps.

2) Popular service-oriented girls get booked up very quickly! So book early.

3) XO girls cancel very often, better to have backups.

4) Compare to FKK, where I would pay 50 Euro and fuck some girl for 30 minutes. It'd be a quick in-and-out hardcore action. So trying out Canadian escort and spending a whole hour with the girls is something that's new to me. At first, I was skeptical, not sure if this is something that makes sense to me. But after this trip, I actually prefer this type of meet-up vs FKK. With the Canadian escort, I get to chat with the girls and get to know a little about them, before I fuck them. It is really a different and more fulfilling sexual experience than just fuck a stranger outright. I don't know, maybe I am becoming more sentimental. The way I look at it is that I am no longer in my 20's, so I don't have the stamina and energy to fuck for 60 straight minutes, so actually having a good conversation with a pretty girl before I spend less time fucking her is not such a bad idea after all. Just my two cents.

[QUOTE=Jay2574;2713631]I was in Montreal last month and had 6 girls. Below are my reviews.

...[/QUOTE]Great report. Thanks for posting.

[QUOTE=Jay2574;2713631]I was in Montreal last month and had 6 girls. Below are my reviews........[/QUOTE]I quite like the Montreal board on ISG as one gets a lot of useful info such as this one. My usual haunts in FKKland seem to be on the decline since covid so I'm looking for a different destination for similar girls and Montreal seems to fit that bill.

French Canadien chicks seem to be more educated / classy, little more "high end" than FKK's Romanian chicks. Yes, I need to pay $240 CND vs $100 Euro for one hour, but I think it's worth it. Also, Canada is a little closer to the US so it's more convenient. Happy Hunting!

[QUOTE=Turgid;2715402]I quite like the Montreal board on ISG as one gets a lot of useful info such as this one. My usual haunts in FKKland seem to be on the decline since covid so I'm looking for a different destination for similar girls and Montreal seems to fit that bill.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jay2574;2713631]
1) Google Fi works excellent in Canada, highly recommended and it's required to book. As they do not accept TextApps.
[/QUOTE]What is Google Fi, and how important is it? My previous three trips to Montreal I booked with Euphoria, and Google Voice texting was enough. (I maybe had to call for my first appointment, though. If I remember correctly).

[QUOTE=Jay2574;2715509]French Canadien chicks seem to be more educated / classy, little more "high end" than FKK's Romanian chicks. Yes, I need to pay $240 CND vs $100 Euro for one hour, but I think it's worth it. Also, Canada is a little closer to the US so it's more convenient. Happy Hunting![/QUOTE]Unfortunately now, you are not getting the Quality of Canadian woman with GFE for 100 Euro in German FKK anymore. They all want 100-150 for 30 mins with BBBJ in the big FKK clubs. Plus, the quality has gone down hill. I was in Frankfurt last month and was disappointed with the FKK prices and quality. MOntreal has surpassed it now. But, you don't get that FKK experience.

IMO.

[QUOTE=FastMdSter;2715770]Unfortunately now, you are not getting the Quality of Canadian woman with GFE for 100 Euro in German FKK anymore. They all want 100-150 for 30 mins with BBBJ in the big FKK clubs. Plus, the quality has gone down hill. I was in Frankfurt last month and was disappointed with the FKK prices and quality. MOntreal has surpassed it now. But, you don't get that FKK experience.

IMO.[/QUOTE]Don't forget you have to pay EUR65-75 to enter the FKK. Add the cost to get there from home and Montreal seems like the better deal.

I have planned a weekend trip the end of this month and realize the Osheaga music festival will be going from Fri. -sun 7/29-7/31. The last festival was pre-Covid in 2019. Will the agency lineups be a lot smaller because the girls would probably be attending the festival? It seems their lineups are rather limited on Saturdays and Sundays anyway. Was this the case in years past?

[QUOTE=Turgid;2715784]Don't forget you have to pay EUR65-75 to enter the FKK. Add the cost to get there from home and Montreal seems like the better deal.[/QUOTE]I agree 100%. Montreal is better right now for me.

I stopped going to Frankfurt FKK long time ago, I prefer Dusseldorf FKK much better, because you have the local german guys to ensure price stays low and service level stays high. Frankfurt is a tourist trap with ugly chicks and sh*tty service.

[QUOTE=FastMdSter;2715770] I was in Frankfurt last month and was disappointed with the FKK prices and quality. Montreal has surpassed it now. But, you don't get that FKK experience.

IMO.[/QUOTE]

Not sure how google voice works, but google fi (it's same as phone carrier Verizon) provides free text / call / data in US and Canada. Sorry if I sound like I'm advertising for google fi, but it works well for me during my last hunting trip.

[QUOTE=ThatGuy23;2715737]What is Google Fi, and how important is it? My previous three trips to Montreal I booked with Euphoria, and Google Voice texting was enough. (I maybe had to call for my first appointment, though. If I remember correctly).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jay2574;2715875]I stopped going to Frankfurt FKK long time ago, I prefer Dusseldorf FKK much better, because you have the local german guys to ensure price stays low and service level stays high. Frankfurt is a tourist trap with ugly chicks and sh*tty service.[/QUOTE]Could you please make a suggestion on where to go in Montreal that would mimic the German FKK experience?

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2699181]I would suggest you look at an events calendar for your time in Montreal. In the summer, there are many festivals. In the autumn-winter-spring period, there is hockey.

Since I like many forms of music, comedy, Formula 1 and the Montreal Canadians, it's pretty easy for me to answer that question. Of course, that doesn't mean you have to actually do any of these things.

Funny video below. Don't pack like this guy.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpeIymIqTa0[/URL][/QUOTE]Since I live in New England, I usually drive to Montreal rather than fly. I travel to Montreal regularly for visits that include mongering and, like WyattEarp, always mention that I'll be attending either a hockey game (not true) or a Montreal Impact soccer game (usually true, I plan summer visits around their home schedule) as part of a short vacation. If they ask how long I intend to be in Montreal, I always tell the truth and add "I have to be back at my job on Monday. " I've never spent more than 30 seconds at the border entering Canada, usually, the biggest hassle to driving is re-entering the US since the lines are long.

[QUOTE=GianniVersace;2716267]Could you please make a suggestion on where to go in Montreal that would mimic the German FKK experience?[/QUOTE]I don't believe he was saying there was a place in Montreal that is exactly like a German FKK.

The same debate exists with respect to Barcelona, Madrid, Lisbon and Prague in comparison to a German FKK.

Germany has large fixed-location incalls with a lot of women in one place, with a customer having the option, in fact the incentive, to stay at that place for a long period of time due to the entrance fee, and fuck a lot of girls during the stay.

Montreal has as many, if not more, beautiful young ladies as any given German FKK, working in a given day. Montreal is a big city college / party town that draws a tremendous gathering of young women. The service level is very high. BBBJ is standard, with CIM being commonplace. Anal is offered by a lot of young ladies, and fetish is also offered by many independents. English is widely spoken, even by the escorts from French-speaking areas, and the young women are nice and friendly. So even if a guy only ejaculates one in a sixty minute session, he might still find value in the experience versus a 30 minute session at a German FKK.

With Montreal, you don't get to choose from women in a mingle, or line-up environment. You read reviews, look at pictures, and make appointments. Guys who like spending hours and hours at a German FKK aren't into that. On the other hand, Montreal is moderately touristy, so many guys prefer to have something to do between appointments.

The biggest factor for Americans is often the cost and inconvenience. For a northeasterner, a top NYC escort often costs $600 an hour and requires significant screening and is most often in her 30's. Nothing wrong with that since most women hit their sexual prime in their 30's, but that same $600 can get the guy, after currency translations, three different one-hour sessions with beautiful young Montreal escorts. So many drive across the border.

For other Americans, the flight to Montreal is relatively short and inexpensive. Not a no-brainer compared to USA Escorts, but worth at least the occasional trip. Now should a USA Guy bother with a long, overnight trip to Germany versus a trip to Montreal? The decision is different for everyone, but international travel right now is expensive (either in terms of cash or award miles) and certainly inconvenient with the delays and cancellations. It doesn't take much of a price increase or service decrease, to make Germany less appealing to an American compared to Montreal. And honestly the same decision exists for Montreal versus any destination in Europe, although many parts of Europe are much more tourist appealing than Montreal if the vacation element is important. I am not sure if most people would say that is necessarily the case for Germany.

[QUOTE=GianniVersace;2716267]Could you please make a suggestion on where to go in Montreal that would mimic the German FKK experience?[/QUOTE]Unfortunately there is nothing of this sort available in Montreal.

[QUOTE=GianniVersace;2716267]Could you please make a suggestion on where to go in Montreal that would mimic the German FKK experience?[/QUOTE]None that I know of. FKK do not really exist in north America.

[QUOTE=GianniVersace;2716267]Could you please make a suggestion on where to go in Montreal that would mimic the German FKK experience?[/QUOTE]There is nothing like it in Montreal.

You have 3 options.

1. Escorts from an agency.

2. Independent Escorts.

3. Massage Parlours.

Suggest you log onto local escort review forum and use agencies and Indy's advertising there as there are a few sights that usually come up on a search that are full of bait and switch and scam artists and could even be dangerous.

The following are safe places.

Agency's: Vog, XO, Euphoria.

Indy's: Indy companion has many Indy's that are decent and safe.

MP: YPG, Rouge Massage, Mayas Massage, Adagio.

More can be found on the local review board or if you check the history of this sight here.

[QUOTE=HarvestBoi;2699205]
The legal status of our hobby in Canada is interesting. From M88's post I gather that it is de jure illegal but unenforced?
.[/QUOTE]Up until Nov 2014 there was no criminal prohibition of exchanging money for sex. There were only peripheral "crimes" such as soliciting in public, living from proceeds of prostitution (pimp), or being found in a "bawdy house" (largely unenforced since the last 1970's). But in 2014 that all changed thanks to an inept Conservative government. For the first time ever purchasing sex (but not selling sex) was now a crime punishable by up to 5 years in prison. I would not go as far as saying that is not enforced. In fact there has been many cases prosecuted. Rather I would say that it is not a LE priority. To complicate matters parts of the law were found to be unconstitutional by an Ontario Court in Feb 2020 (that is not the part about buying sex though).

[QUOTE=Jay2574;2715875]I stopped going to Frankfurt FKK long time ago, I prefer Dusseldorf FKK much better, because you have the local german guys to ensure price stays low and service level stays high. Frankfurt is a tourist trap with ugly chicks and sh*tty service.[/QUOTE]Same here, I have always preferred NRW over Frankfurt. Unfortunately, my two go-to FKKs like GoldenTime and Living Room are now closed. The thing about FKK is that I can spend the whole day in the FKK just to chill out and relax. I am not sure how to spend my time in Montreal beyond those hours with the escorts. It could make for one boring trip.

[QUOTE=Ggekko2009;2716325]Same here, I have always preferred NRW over Frankfurt. Unfortunately, my two go-to FKKs like GoldenTime and Living Room are now closed. The thing about FKK is that I can spend the whole day in the FKK just to chill out and relax. I am not sure how to spend my time in Montreal beyond those hours with the escorts. It could make for one boring trip.[/QUOTE]I usually hike Mont Royal and rent a bike from the rental place by Old Town and the canal to do the many bike paths.

Shopping is pretty good on St. Catherine, although many of the local clothiers have sold out to big chains.

Same with food, but there is still a pretty good selection of local restaurants with international cuisine.

It isn't Europe, but it has enough of a European feel to make exploring it interesting.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2716335]Shopping is pretty good on St. Catherine, although many of the local clothiers have sold out to big chains.[/QUOTE]Excellent comment. And the same goes with independent coffee shops vs. Big chains. And everything else.

I lived in Montreal from 1981 to 1989, then again since 2005 and it's incredible how the city has changed, and not for the better IMHO.

[QUOTE=Gentleman88;2716306]Up until Nov 2014 there was no criminal prohibition of exchanging money for sex. There were only peripheral "crimes" such as soliciting in public, living from proceeds of prostitution (pimp), or being found in a "bawdy house" (largely unenforced since the last 1970's). But in 2014 that all changed thanks to an inept Conservative government. For the first time ever purchasing sex (but not selling sex) was now a crime punishable by up to 5 years in prison. I would not go as far as saying that is not enforced. In fact there has been many cases prosecuted. Rather I would say that it is not a LE priority. To complicate matters parts of the law were found to be unconstitutional by an Ontario Court in Feb 2020 (that is not the part about buying sex though).[/QUOTE]Yes, exactly, but it is useful to note that there is a formal prioritization policy in Montreal, Toronto and Vancouver.

The prioritization policy says the police in those cities will only prioritize prostitution crimes that involve underaged persons, trafficked / coerced persons, and instances of public nuisance.

The arrests / prosecutions have indeed occurred outside of those three metropolitan areas. The areas outside those metropolitan areas have included some suburbs of a Toronto.

Canada wants to force sex work into the big cities where no one gives a shit. I don't know if Ottawa, Quebec City, or Edinburgh have formal prioritization policies, but the activity appears safe in those cities, although the independents do seem to screen more. Same with Windsor, where the city has never been very sex-worker friendly. The suburbs and rural Canada are much less safe from a legal perspective.

So avoid the street scene in Montreal. And do your part to keep the exact location of incalls off the internet. Neighbors complaining can create a public nuisance issue. Follow the practical advice of escorts. Don't stand in the hallway upon leaving to just say she was was a great fuck, you love her, and you want to fuck her again. And when she opens the incall door but you don't see her that means she is naked behind the door. Just walk in. Don't assume you just saw a ghost and make her motion with her hand to come in.

As far as underaged and coercion is concerned, don't try to pursue deals that are a fraction of the normal market price that are advertised on seedy websites. Those are the places where any underaged ladies would be advertised.

Get independent ladies and do business with agencies mentioned in this thread and you will have no legal problems in Montreal. But do clean your cell phone so that there are no running text strings with escorts or agencies that will be easily visible if border control demands to see your cell phone when entering Canada. Just email yourself the cell phone number an pick back up on the text conversation once you get past border control. But not to an email address where all the emails are visible by just clicking one icon on your cell phone.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2716335]I usually hike Mont Royal and rent a bike from the rental place by Old Town and the canal to do the many bike paths.

Shopping is pretty good on St. Catherine, although many of the local clothiers have sold out to big chains.

Same with food, but there is still a pretty good selection of local restaurants with international cuisine.

It isn't Europe, but it has enough of a European feel to make exploring it interesting.[/QUOTE]Monger88 thanks for the reply. You need to clean your inbox. It is full & you no longer can receive messages.

All the Asian restaurants in Chinatown and off Saint Catherine are great, I usually go there for all my meals. As for bike rental, its actually pretty expensive, BIXI cost $18 monthly, plus $7 an hour for electric bike, I thought about biking in mount royal but ended up just taking the bus to Mt Royal Chalet, which is a great place for 180 views. All the churches are great to visit, but all those touristy place can be done in 2-3 days. What I usually do is 9 am text to book girls, 1 am first pop, 2 am-7 pm visit all the nice parks throughout Montreal like Parc La Fontaine, and have lunch in St. Catherine, then 7 pm second pop. That pretty much sums it up for me. Any other recommendations?

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2716335]I usually hike Mont Royal and rent a bike from the rental place by Old Town and the canal to do the many bike paths.

Shopping is pretty good on St. Catherine, although many of the local clothiers have sold out to big chains.

Same with food, but there is still a pretty good selection of local restaurants with international cuisine.

It isn't Europe, but it has enough of a European feel to make exploring it interesting.[/QUOTE]

I am actually visiting NRW soon, will visit Samya, Acapulco Gold, Mondial and Babylon. Prb the top 4 place near Dusseldorf now. Yes, I am sad to see GT and LR go, but it's time to move on. I did hear that gold GT management is opening up a new place call Golden Gate FKK that's supposed to open soon, do you know anything about it?

[QUOTE=Ggekko2009;2716325]Same here, I have always preferred NRW over Frankfurt. Unfortunately, my two go-to FKKs like GoldenTime and Living Room are now closed. The thing about FKK is that I can spend the whole day in the FKK just to chill out and relax. I am not sure how to spend my time in Montreal beyond those hours with the escorts. It could make for one boring trip.[/QUOTE]

I agree with you 100%, Europe is way too far to travel, coming from US, about 12+ hours for me, also I would need to transfer from FRA to DUL, which is another 2-3 hours, so I wasted a lot of time on traveling when I go to FKK. But Montreal is a different story, short 4 hour flight, easy 30 min shuttle from airport to the city, then I can start whoring immediately, nice quick and cheap way to get what I want, very efficient! And you are right, Canadian escort girls are very open minded, CIM and greek is pretty common. So as for right now, I actually prefer Montreal over FKK. I wonder if there another city I would explore, any suggestions?

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2716291]I don't believe he was saying there was a place in Montreal that is exactly like a German FKK.

Montreal has as many, if not more, beautiful young ladies as any given German FKK, working in a given day. Montreal is a big city college / party town that draws a tremendous gathering of young women. The service level is very high. BBBJ is standard, with CIM being commonplace. Anal is offered by a lot of young ladies, and fetish is also offered by many independents. English is widely spoken, even by the escorts from French-speaking areas, and the young women are nice and friendly. So even if a guy only ejaculates one in a sixty minute session, he might still find value in the experience versus a 30 minute session at a German FKK.

For other Americans, the flight to Montreal is relatively short and inexpensive. Not a no-brainer compared to USA Escorts, but worth at least the occasional trip. Now should a USA Guy bother with a long, overnight trip to Germany versus a trip to Montreal? The decision is different for everyone, but international travel right now is expensive (either in terms of cash or award miles) and certainly inconvenient with the delays and cancellations. It doesn't take much of a price increase or service decrease, to make Germany less appealing to an American compared to Montreal. And honestly the same decision exists for Montreal versus any destination in Europe, although many parts of Europe are much more tourist appealing than Montreal if the vacation element is important. I am not sure if most people would say that is necessarily the case for Germany.[/QUOTE]

There's lots to do in Montreal. It's a city of festivals. Big fests, small fests, city-wide fests and neighborhood fests. You can hang out in Old Montreal or walk around one of the charming neighborhoods. And as was mentioned, there is also hockey, soccer and a casino.

If you are there for a week or more, consider a day in Ottawa.

[QUOTE=Jay2574;2716371]I agree with you 100%, Europe is way too far to travel, coming from US, about 12+ hours for me, also I would need to transfer from FRA to DUL, which is another 2-3 hours, so I wasted a lot of time on traveling when I go to FKK. But Montreal is a different story, short 4 hour flight, easy 30 min shuttle from airport to the city, then I can start whoring immediately, nice quick and cheap way to get what I want, very efficient! And you are right, Canadian escort girls are very open minded, CIM and greek is pretty common. So as for right now, I actually prefer Montreal over FKK. I wonder if there another city I would explore, any suggestions?[/QUOTE]Toronto. It's bit more expensive then Montreal (not that much). There is more agency. Quality is very good. And it's a fun city to visit (would not have said that 20 years ago but things have change for the better there).

[QUOTE=Jay2574;2716367]All the Asian restaurants in Chinatown and off Saint Catherine are great, I usually go there for all my meals. As for bike rental, its actually pretty expensive, BIXI cost $18 monthly, plus $7 an hour for electric bike, I thought about biking in mount royal but ended up just taking the bus to Mt Royal Chalet, which is a great place for 180 views. All the churches are great to visit, but all those touristy place can be done in 2-3 days. What I usually do is 9 am text to book girls, 1 am first pop, 2 am-7 pm visit all the nice parks throughout Montreal like Parc La Fontaine, and have lunch in St. Catherine, then 7 pm second pop. That pretty much sums it up for me. Any other recommendations?[/QUOTE]If you rent a bike try the Canal Lachine path. It's a great ride. But watch out you will see tons of cleavage.

For street food the best is marche Atwater (not to far from XO agency).

Hopefully if you go in the summer there is a festival somewhere in the city. Good place to listen to music and see wonderful young girl in sunny dress or any very provocative outfit. I love it.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2716565]If you rent a bike try the Canal Lachine path. It's a great ride. But watch out you will see tons of cleavage.[/QUOTE]I am more of an ass man. If I ride my bike past the front of a woman, I have a pretty good instinct for whether she has a nice ass. The danger is turning my head back to check it out.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2717000]I am more of an ass man. If I ride my bike past the front of a woman, I have a pretty good instinct for whether she has a nice ass. The danger is turning my head back to check it out.[/QUOTE]Hahaha!

Well not sure it's more dangerous because if I see a girl with a nice cleavage I will turn my head back to see if she also has a nice ass! So we are evenly dangerous.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2717000]I am more of an ass man. If I ride my bike past the front of a woman, I have a pretty good instinct for whether she has a nice ass. The danger is turning my head back to check it out.[/QUOTE]And true that. Looking back might result in an accident. So, better to approach from the rear LOL!

I returned from my first visit to Montreal last weekend. Here are my experiences.

I stayed at the AC Hotel, which was about a 5 minute walk from Place the'Armes Metro. This was an excellent location to walk to Old Montreal, Old Port, and the area where the Jazz Festival was being put on. The Metro made most other things I wanted to do, both hobby and tourist-related, easily accessible as well. I did not have a car, and I only used Uber for transport to and from the airport.

Paisley at Euphoria. After reading reviews of her I put her at the top of my list. It was extremely easy to book an appointment with her. Euphoria do their schedule the night prior by 10 pm, so you can text their booker anytime after that for the next day, or you can text them early in the day for same-day. Their ladies do get fully booked, so don't wait too long or you'll be very limited in selection and available times. The incall was a short walk from the Bonaventure metro stop on the orange line. Although Paisley was nice looking and sweet, she was my least favourite of my trip. Upon arrival, she greeted me in sweatpants and a casual t-shirt. She then took the first 15 minutes talking so we could 'get to know each other'. Then, I took a shower and met her afterwards on the bed. We exchanged some massage, and then time was suddenly up. So, no sex and no finish. Now, this very well may be at least partially my fault for not leading the session more, but I also think a service provider should share some responsibility in keeping the time and making sure things "progress" toward the end. I don't want to start that debate here, but that's what happened this time, and what happened was a lot of not much of anything. LOL. Body - 8, Face - 8, Service - 3. Would I Repeat? No.

Flora at Massage8080 - So now I have about the worst case of blue balls I've ever had, so I text Massage8080 to see if one of their providers on my TDL is available to finish the job. They have two locations, and Flora was working at St-Denis. Their spa is located very close to the Sherbrooke metro on the orange line. Flora met me and started a decent massage, and she was pretty much what I expected from the pics. The flip was good, and the he did the trick. HJ only with roaming on top of clothes. More was on the menu, but I wasn't entirely into it after my experience with Paisley and just wanted the 'essential' release. Body - 8, Face - 7.5, Service - 7.5. Would I repeat? No. It wasn't bad, but I'd want to try others before coming back to Flora.

Lydia at YPG. This was by far the best experience of the lot. Note that you must CALL to schedule an appointment here; they do no respond to texts. YPG is located within a short walk of the Beaudry metro on the green line. Lydia probably had the best sexual, seductive energy of any provider I've ever seen, and is definitely in the top 3. Absolutely gorgeous body, pretty face, small naturals that she'll rub all over you, amazing oral skills, and takes direction very well--not that she needed much of it. I would have booked her again and again if she was available, but she wasn't through the end of my stay, unfortunately. I am getting worked up just thinking back on her, though. I would almost fly back to Montreal just to see her again. Finished BBBJCIM. Body - 9, Face - 9.5, Service - 9.5. Would I repeat? Without question!!

Francesca at Amazing. My last visit was to Francesca at Amazing spa. Easy to book by text, and the spa was near St Michel metro at the end of the blue line. I was actually trying to see another provider, but she got sick during my visit, so I decided to try Francesca instead. Very pretty young girl from the Dominican Republic with a sexy body and great fuck me eyes. Massage was non-therapeutic, but exactly what I want from this kind of experience. My only complaints were that she could have used a breath mint, and CBJ only. Body - 8. 5, Face - 8, Service - 7. Would I repeat? Maybe.

I did try to see another provider from Euphoria, but the timing didn't work out, and I was getting tired by the end of the third day of walking around and exploring the city, Jazz Fest, etc. It was an excellent trip, and I would not hesitate to visit again.

Totally agree. During all of my prior trips I would take a few hour walk all around Old Montreal and the main city. Grab a coffee and pretend you are in Europe. Fantastic places to eat and would find myself having a drink or glass of wine in one restaurant and then walk to another to do same or have dinner. If you can, head to Marcus at the Four Seasons for a drink as the eye candy can be amazing. Work your charms and see what happens. Am heading back there shortly for a work trip and cannot wait!

[QUOTE=SexyBra;2717088]Lydia at YPG. This was by far the best experience of the lot. Note that you must CALL to schedule an appointment here; they do no respond to texts. YPG is located within a short walk of the Beaudry metro on the green line. Lydia probably had the best sexual, seductive energy of any provider I've ever seen, and is definitely in the top 3. Absolutely gorgeous body, pretty face, small naturals that she'll rub all over you, amazing oral skills, and takes direction very well--not that she needed much of it. I would have booked her again and again if she was available, but she wasn't through the end of my stay, unfortunately. I am getting worked up just thinking back on her, though. I would almost fly back to Montreal just to see her again. Finished BBBJCIM. Body - 9, Face - 9.5, Service - 9.5. Would I repeat? Without question!!

Francesca at Amazing. My last visit was to Francesca at Amazing spa. Easy to book by text, and the spa was near St Michel metro at the end of the blue line. I was actually trying to see another provider, but she got sick during my visit, so I decided to try Francesca instead. Very pretty young girl from the Dominican Republic with a sexy body and great fuck me eyes. Massage was non-therapeutic, but exactly what I want from this kind of experience. My only complaints were that she could have used a breath mint, and CBJ only. Body - 8. 5, Face - 8, Service - 7. Would I repeat? Maybe.[/QUOTE]Are the spas full service for a first time client or is it limited to just HJ / BJ on your first visit? I read ambiguous posts. Because of legal restrictions, the local boards don't like to get into too much detail.

It would be great if you discussed the process and prices. It seems some places have a base room fee for the "massage" and then you negotiate extras directly with the girl behind closed doors.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2717421]Are the spas full service for a first time client or is it limited to just HJ / BJ on your first visit? I read ambiguous posts. Because of legal restrictions, the local boards don't like to get into too much detail.

It would be great if you discussed the process and prices. It seems some places have a base room fee for the "massage" and then you negotiate extras directly with the girl behind closed doors.[/QUOTE]Also curious about pricing, and if 2 pops is considered standard in an hour.

I had been told at one point that $60 for the room, and between $140-$160 tip. I don't know if that still holds true. I assume a duo is twice the room fee as well as twice the tip. Not sure if more tip is expected for two shots.

EB checking in with the Montreal crowd, I've been a bit quiet here lately but I've continued to visit this lovely city very frequently. Before I share my intel on MP, I have to say that Montreal is a gem for mongering and sightseeing, hanging out at Vieux Port on weekends has been cool, huge crowd partying and of course hot young girls are everywhere, OMG.

I've visited 2214 and LePenthouse, and yes FS is available, even for a first time visitor. I have no doubt that's the case in most others as well. 2214 has not been accepting new clients, but LePenthouse basically you pick the girl, pay the room fee at the reception, once in the room with the girl she says the basic massage is this much, or the full massage with extras is that much. You can ask what's the extras, then the girl will say FS, CBJ or BBBJ, etc. From my experience there was a massage either before or after the sex, you pick. So two shots was not in the cards here. At the 2214 is one fee for everything included, no need to negotiate anything in the room with the girl. One pop also.

Hi all. Getting ready for another trip to Montreal. Any recommendations for Greek? Besides Katrina of course.

[QUOTE=LurkerZ;2718012]Hi all,

Getting ready for another trip to Montreal. Any recommendations for Greek? Besides Katrina of course.[/QUOTE]Ouzeri on St-Denis Street up on the plateau mont-royal.

Hey everyone,

I will be making my way back to Montreal from Boston after almost 3 years! Last time I was there I stopped by Adagio, saw Lina from XO, and another girl from XO flaked. I would like some intel on YPG can I walk in or do I have to make an appointment? Also any recommendations agencies, spas, or independent?

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2718230]Ouzeri on St-Denis Street up on the plateau mont-royal.[/QUOTE]LOL. Knew someone would respond like this.

Any suggestions for girls who like Greek? (Besides Katrina).

[QUOTE=Razgrizace00;2718593]Hey everyone,

I will be making my way back to Montreal from Boston after almost 3 years! Last time I was there I stopped by Adagio, saw Lina from XO, and another girl from XO flaked. I would like some intel on YPG can I walk in or do I have to make an appointment? Also any recommendations agencies, spas, or independent?[/QUOTE]Scroll down to SexyBra's post #5282.

I will be in Montreal in August and I wanted to know if there is an equivalent site to Escortbabylon or Skipthegames for Canada? I am familiar with merb which is a great resource but every now and then I like bargain hunting too. Thank you in advance.

[QUOTE=LurkerZ;2719178]Scroll down to SexyBra's post #5282.[/QUOTE]Yes I did see that post. He said to call and not text for appointments, are walk-ins allowed? I'm going to be in town with people and don't know when I can slip away so I don't want to make an appointment and not keep it.

[QUOTE=Jay2574;2716371]I agree with you 100%, Europe is way too far to travel, coming from US, about 12+ hours for me, also I would need to transfer from FRA to DUL, which is another 2-3 hours, so I wasted a lot of time on traveling when I go to FKK. But Montreal is a different story, short 4 hour flight, easy 30 min shuttle from airport to the city, then I can start whoring immediately, nice quick and cheap way to get what I want, very efficient! And you are right, Canadian escort girls are very open minded, CIM and greek is pretty common. So as for right now, I actually prefer Montreal over FKK. I wonder if there another city I would explore, any suggestions?[/QUOTE]In order of English-friendliness, Costa Rica, Tijuana, Mexico City, Colombia, and Dominican Republic are all excellent monger destinations. Canada will have the best white women but Latin America is full of sexy Latinas at a much lower price point if you can navigate the language barrier.

[QUOTE=KcDark;2719229]I will be in Montreal in August and I wanted to know if there is an equivalent site to Escortbabylon or Skipthegames for Canada? I am familiar with merb which is a great resource but every now and then I like bargain hunting too. Thank you in advance.[/QUOTE]Leolist. CC and announce123. Just like EB and STG there's a lot of scams and bait and switch. If you read the reviews on the green board, the 4 digits they post for non-agency girls usually refers to the last 4 of their number on one of those sites. Happy Hunting!

[QUOTE=LurkerZ;2719349]Leolist. CC and announce123. Just like EB and STG there's a lot of scams and bait and switch. If you read the reviews on the green board, the 4 digits they post for non-agency girls usually refers to the last 4 of their number on one of those sites. Happy Hunting![/QUOTE]Thank you! Looking to try that Greek place Jalimon recommended as well. I can't wait for the great food and women!

[QUOTE=LurkerZ;2719349]Leolist. CC and announce123. Just like EB and STG there's a lot of scams and bait and switch. If you read the reviews on the green board, the 4 digits they post for non-agency girls usually refers to the last 4 of their number on one of those sites. Happy Hunting![/QUOTE]Correct.

Before the pandemic I knew about 10 great indy lower price girl. But none of them where in Montreal. All in the suburbs. Since the pandemic they are all gone.

Leolist, annonce 123 and the like for indy in Montreal is full of crap. Do not venture. You will save more on your budget sticking with agencies. See fewer girl but pay a bit more.

At Jalimon or someone else who might know. Any info on these rumors that uncle Sam has left XO and is no longer running the agency?

[QUOTE=DethManRulz;2721160]At Jalimon or someone else who might know. Any info on these rumors that uncle Sam has left XO and is no longer running the agency?[/QUOTE]I just know he moved on to other things to occupy himself. Someone else is running the agency. But not sure if ownership was changed.

I met the guy who now run the agency. Very cool down to earth guy.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2720026]Correct.

Before the pandemic I knew about 10 great indy lower price girl. But none of them where in Montreal. All in the suburbs. Since the pandemic they are all gone.

Leolist, annonce 123 and the like for indy in Montreal is full of crap. Do not venture. You will save more on your budget sticking with agencies. See fewer girl but pay a bit more.[/QUOTE]Great advice. Would you just show up to the agencies or do you need to make an appointment with a specific girl? In your opinion what are the top 2 agencies near McGill?

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2721425]I just know he moved on to other things to occupy himself. Someone else is running the agency. But not sure if ownership was changed.

I met the guy who now run the agency. Very cool down to earth guy.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Hopefully it doesn't change much. They're always top 1 or 2 in Montreal. Would be a shame to see them fall.

[QUOTE=GianniVersace;2721516]Great advice. Would you just show up to the agencies or do you need to make an appointment with a specific girl? In your opinion what are the top 2 agencies near McGill?[/QUOTE]The idea that visiting members want to stay near a major agency or patronize agencies near their lodging persists for some reason. The major incall agencies EscortsXO, Euphoria and VelvetLove are all very close to the center of Montreal. Montreal downtown is reasonably small and concentrated. With the Metro's convenience staying near a Green or Orange line stop is more key than where the agencies are located.

The first question seems a bit odd. Of course, you have to make an appointment with a specific girl. That's how escorts and agencies work. They are not walk-ins like massage parlors. The incall agencies don't have waiting rooms.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2717421]Are the spas full service for a first time client or is it limited to just HJ / BJ on your first visit? I read ambiguous posts. Because of legal restrictions, the local boards don't like to get into too much detail.

It would be great if you discussed the process and prices. It seems some places have a base room fee for the "massage" and then you negotiate extras directly with the girl behind closed doors.[/QUOTE]Sorry it took me awhile to respond to this.

For the spas, there was no issue with FS being available for a first-timer. One of the spas in particular (Amazing Spa) required an appointment. They stated in their lineup post that it was by appointment only--no walk ins. I always made an appointment, as I had specific providers I wanted to see. However, I believe at most you can walk-in and take your chances if you don't want to pre-book, based on other reports I read.

As I mentioned, the pricing was different depending on the spa. At YPG and Amazing, it was all-inclusive. $70 for the room, $140 for the girl, paid up front. I did not have any issues getting the expected service or my full allotted time. From what I read, certain providers may try to negotiate 'extra tip' for certain services, such as CIM for example. However, the providers I saw did not ask for extra tips at any point. At Massage8080, it was much more like the AMP experience I've had in the US-70 for the room, tip negotiated based on services rendered. In my case, I believe I gave her $50 for the he.

I found it extremely easy to hobby in Montreal--easier than anywhere I've lived or visited in the US. The agencies and spas were as easy to work with as texting (or calling in the one case) for an appointment and then showing up.

I hope that helps.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2721714]The idea that visiting members want to stay near a major agency or patronize agencies near their lodging persists for some reason. The major incall agencies EscortsXO, Euphoria and VelvetLove are all very close to the center of Montreal. Montreal downtown is reasonably small and concentrated. With the Metro's convenience staying near a Green or Orange line stop is more key than where the agencies are located.

The first question seems a bit odd. Of course, you have to make an appointment with a specific girl. That's how escorts and agencies work. They are not walk-ins like massage parlors. The incall agencies don't have waiting rooms.[/QUOTE]I second this. As long as you are within walking distance of a Metro Green or Orange line station, then you can easily access the majority of agencies, spas, etc.

[QUOTE=Razgrizace00;2719233]Yes I did see that post. He said to call and not text for appointments, are walk-ins allowed? I'm going to be in town with people and don't know when I can slip away so I don't want to make an appointment and not keep it.[/QUOTE]It looked to me like YPG did accept walk-ins. The only one I saw that explicitly prohibited walk-ins was Massage8080. However, I wouldn't be afraid to try to choose who you want to see and book an appointment. As along as you make any changes or cancellations within a reasonable amount of time, I believe most bookers I worked with would gladly do what they could to accommodate you. Just communicate and keep them posted if you need to alter your appointment.

[QUOTE=SexyBra;2721931]Sorry it took me awhile to respond to this.

For the spas, there was no issue with FS being available for a first-timer. One of the spas in particular (Amazing Spa) required an appointment. They stated in their lineup post that it was by appointment only--no walk ins. I always made an appointment, as I had specific providers I wanted to see. However, I believe at most you can walk-in and take your chances if you don't want to pre-book, based on other reports I read.

As I mentioned, the pricing was different depending on the spa. At YPG and Amazing, it was all-inclusive. $70 for the room, $140 for the girl, paid up front. I did not have any issues getting the expected service or my full allotted time. From what I read, certain providers may try to negotiate 'extra tip' for certain services, such as CIM for example. However, the providers I saw did not ask for extra tips at any point. At Massage8080, it was much more like the AMP experience I've had in the US-70 for the room, tip negotiated based on services rendered. In my case, I believe I gave her $50 for the he.

I found it extremely easy to hobby in Montreal--easier than anywhere I've lived or visited in the US. The agencies and spas were as easy to work with as texting (or calling in the one case) for an appointment and then showing up.

I hope that helps.[/QUOTE]Thanks this helps a ton!

Wondering if more than HJ can be had here? I've been here a couple of times recently and had sessions with Layla and Mya. Both were good (Mya was better). Neither were open to BJ or FS, but I wonder if it was because it was the first time they saw me. There's some stern warnings on the monitors advising not to push for extras, so I'm guessing the answer is no.

I had a great weekend in Montreal! I wish I had more time and energy because I was only able to see 2 providers. I highly recommend and would repeat.

Texted James and I saw Elie from Euphoria. She was so hot and alot of tattoos, I felt like I was with a porn star. I won't bore with details but usual routine and had a great time.

Called and booked Lydia at YPG for the next day after I saw Elie. She was the cute girl next door with great sensual and sexual energy and super sweet.

I'm visiting in second week of Aug. Any suggestions on what are good dance clubs must to visit? Particularly, some place with young crowd.

Anyone flown a Montreal girl to USA for 4 days? And if so what did it cost?

[QUOTE=NapataJohn;2725971]Anyone flown a Montreal girl to USA for 4 days? And if so what did it cost?[/QUOTE]Considered this years ago and ultimately decided it was better to just fly to Montreal due to expense and variety. If you fly a girl in you had better be sure you get along as 4 days is a long time. I like diversity and would at most consider an overnight. 8-12 hours max.

On my last trip to Montreal spent a few hours with Katrina. In the past our schedules did not align. In short, amazing experience and she looks better in person. Slimmer / leggier and more taller spinner type than the pix would suggest and she is frankly just gorgeous and a sweetheart. Her breasts appear to bit hard in the photos but trust me, they are actually soft and supple and spent a good amount of time examining them. Yes, she is at the higher end of the spectrum but for me worth it. She was on time, agreed to the role play I wanted happily, dressed as I requested when she arrived and brought several outfits to change into. DFK, passionate, CIM w / spit on the table and believe no greek. Not into that so did not bother me. I would and will repeat with her as she is the total package for me. Looks and skills and fun personality.

My first priority was to see Kate from XO but was told she was on vacation. A duo with her and Katrina is next during my next trip.

[QUOTE=CharlieSmart;2727072]...If you fly a girl in you had better be sure you get along as 4 days is a long time...[/QUOTE]Excellent point that should not be underestimated! The first 18-24 hours may be a fantastic mix of sex, sleeping, more sex, breakfast, then more sex, but Days 3 and 4 could be tortuous if you're not compatible with each other or if she's a Francophone with weak English skills. Not every working girl in Montreal is fluent in English.

[QUOTE=MightySpearsman;2727762]Excellent point that should not be underestimated! The first 18-24 hours may be a fantastic mix of sex, sleeping, more sex, breakfast, then more sex, but Days 3 and 4 could be tortuous if you're not compatible with each other or if she's a Francophone with weak English skills. Not every working girl in Montreal is fluent in English.[/QUOTE]Yes thanks. Reason is I wanted to do it in the winter and did not want to fly into cold. The place where I stay is hot all the time but thanks for the advice.

When one goes to the Spa's can you expect to get 2 pops out of your entire paid for session? Or is it always just 1 pop?

Experienced hobby from the US, visiting Montreal this week. Any recon for SB's or Escorts? Bit tight on time, figured I would ask here on the forum.

New account on ISG, but I am senior on the USASG.

[QUOTE=Dealwader;2725939]I'm visiting in second week of Aug. Any suggestions on what are good dance clubs must to visit? Particularly, some place with young crowd.[/QUOTE]Dealwader- which dates will you be in Motreal? Perhaps we could meet up, get some nice girls to have fun with.

[QUOTE=SexyBra;2717088]I returned from my first visit to Montreal last weekend. Here are my experiences.

Francesca at Amazing. My last visit was to Francesca at Amazing spa. Easy to book by text, and the spa was near St Michel metro at the end of the blue line. I was actually trying to see another provider, but she got sick during my visit, so I decided to try Francesca instead. Very pretty young girl from the Dominican Republic with a sexy body and great fuck me eyes. Massage was non-therapeutic, but exactly what I want from this kind of experience. My only complaints were that she could have used a breath mint, and CBJ only. Body - 8. 5, Face - 8, Service - 7. Would I repeat? Maybe.[/QUOTE]Hi SexyBra,

Thank you for the info here. I will be visiting next week. Any more info on the Amazing? I can't seem to find it online, phone or address, and nothing comes up close to the Metro station you mentioned.

Thank you in advance!

[QUOTE=GianniVersace;2729180]When one goes to the Spa's can you expect to get 2 pops out of your entire paid for session? Or is it always just 1 pop?[/QUOTE]You can get even three if you find a girl that likes you. Though mostly one is offered for more extra pay.

[QUOTE=MrCharmo;2729382]Experienced hobby from the US, visiting Montreal this week. Any recon for SB's or Escorts? Bit tight on time, figured I would ask here on the forum.

New account on ISG, but I am senior on the USASG.[/QUOTE]You're a senior, and post this?

LAZY.

Will do send you a photo of the new girls? How do you make a choice with no pictures?

Booked Katrina the day before my visit. Great comms with mamasan, went on time and she pointed me to the shower. No discussion of of fees upfront but I already expected a decent amount. In comes this lovely 20 year old mix of Arabic and Asian oh my, she was lovely! A+'s (almost be's) and lovely skin. GFE but no kissing, she's easy to talk to, great performance and made this old guy feel great again LOL. Nice attention to the small head. At the end, $260 for an hour of pure joy. She's in my list when I go back again.

[QUOTE=Smuler;2730098]You're a senior, and post this?

LAZY.[/QUOTE]Lazy? I wish. Just overworked and on a last-minute trip. Figured I'd ask the forum, since we are very helpful to eachother on our board back home. We look out for visitors.

Not needed, though, I have quite a few promising leads already, once I got to hop online.

NOT LAZY. Bent get.

[QUOTE=Akibono;2730170]Will do send you a photo of the new girls? How do you make a choice with no pictures?[/QUOTE]They do send pics if you ask.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2730447]They do send pics if you ask.[/QUOTE]Jalimon,

Does this require some clarification? Do all agency bookers send photos? Will they really send photos of ALL the girls on their roster?

My limited MTL experience relative to yours is that they might send photos of a couple girls with availability. If you have booked with the agency before, you stand a better chance that they will send photos.

Last but not least, the most popular girls get booked up fast and very early. I don't mess around trying to communicate back and forth with the booker. I just say book me an appointment with so and so anytime she is available.

[QUOTE=BobKelso954;2730217]Booked Katrina the day before my visit. Great comms with mamasan, went on time and she pointed me to the shower. No discussion of of fees upfront but I already expected a decent amount. In comes this lovely 20 year old mix of Arabic and Asian oh my, she was lovely! A+'s (almost be's) and lovely skin. GFE but no kissing, she's easy to talk to, great performance and made this old guy feel great again LOL. Nice attention to the small head. At the end, $260 for an hour of pure joy. She's in my list when I go back again.[/QUOTE]Is this the Thai place? Can you share a tip how to find their number and location?

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2730725]Jalimon,

Does this require some clarification? Do all agency bookers send photos? Will they really send photos of ALL the girls on their roster?

My limited MTL experience relative to yours is that they might send photos of a couple girls with availability. If you have booked with the agency before, you stand a better chance that they will send photos.

Last but not least, the most popular girls get booked up fast and very early. I don't mess around trying to communicate back and forth with the booker. I just say book me an appointment with so and so anytime she is available.[/QUOTE]Indeed I can make it more clear.

If a girl as no pics on the agency website it usually means she's new. And many guys will be reluctant to book a girl without seeing any pic. So the booker will have a pic (or a few) that the girl took before her real agency pic comes up. They will send you these pics.

It might happen that the booker will say 'just forget the pics and trust me on this one and book! If it happens you are lucky and do book this girl!!

Now if you ask for pics of a girl that already has pics on the website. Nah I do not really know of a booker that will send you extra pics.

One thing you should ask is if the agency has any girl that are not advertised at all. It happens often. They are usually reserved for VIP. Ask and give some availability to the booker. You never know. The VIP guy may need to cancel last minute and you'll see the booker filling back her schedule real fast with only some guys he knows would be available.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2730784]Indeed I can make it more clear.

If a girl as no pics on the agency website it usually means she's new. And many guys will be reluctant to book a girl without seeing any pic. So the booker will have a pic (or a few) that the girl took before her real agency pic comes up. They will send you these pics.

It might happen that the booker will say 'just forget the pics and trust me on this one and book! If it happens you are lucky and do book this girl!!

Now if you ask for pics of a girl that already has pics on the website. Nah I do not really know of a booker that will send you extra pics.

One thing you should ask is if the agency has any girl that are not advertised at all. It happens often. They are usually reserved for VIP. Ask and give some availability to the booker. You never know. The VIP guy may need to cancel last minute and you'll see the booker filling back her schedule real fast with only some guys he knows would be available.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]Thanks Jalimon. I actually thought there was a member or two pre-COVID saying the agencies would send some face shots of some of the girls. I have never seen face shots. The issue is why does the agency need to send a face shot of a girl who is always booked solid. Amanda (retired from Euphoria?) comes to mind. Guys said she had a passing resemblance to Tori Black and looked to me maybe a better body.

Went this week around 9 pm at night and Jazmine was only one free. Dark skinned big booty girl that had a great personality. Experience was just so, so. Made the mistake of only carrying US dollars and their exchange rate was 1 to 1 which sucked. Paid the $70 room fee with CC but girls fee had to be in cash.

No where near GFE for $220 girl. Also shorted time by 25 minutes. Would not repeat. But this was just a dream.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2720026]Correct.

Before the pandemic I knew about 10 great indy lower price girl. But none of them where in Montreal. All in the suburbs. Since the pandemic they are all gone.

Leolist, annonce 123 and the like for indy in Montreal is full of crap. Do not venture. You will save more on your budget sticking with agencies. See fewer girl but pay a bit more.[/QUOTE]So many industries have experienced a diappearance of workers, where have they gone LOL. With inflation as well, you would think these young girls in life, would show up for this cash, but no I see.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2730883]Thanks Jalimon. I actually thought there was a member or two pre-COVID saying the agencies would send some face shots of some of the girls. I have never seen face shots. The issue is why does the agency need to send a face shot of a girl who is always booked solid. Amanda (retired from Euphoria?) comes to mind. Guys said she had a passing resemblance to Tori Black and looked to me maybe a better body.[/QUOTE]It is not specifically front and center clear face shot if that's what some may start to think? It will often just be a selfie type so the flash might be there washing out some of the photo and it's a photo of the body in a bathroom or gym or mall or dinner that might include the face and the face may well still be hidden / cut off / blocked or filtered so you get a general idea of things not much more, and the girl can still look totally different in person as the photos run a myriad of time from whenever they were actually taken.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2730883]Thanks Jalimon. I actually thought there was a member or two pre-COVID saying the agencies would send some face shots of some of the girls. I have never seen face shots. The issue is why does the agency need to send a face shot of a girl who is always booked solid. Amanda (retired from Euphoria?) comes to mind. Guys said she had a passing resemblance to Tori Black and looked to me maybe a better body.[/QUOTE]Ho but what they share is pic without face. Rarely otherwise. And to be honest those pics are usually much better then photoshop agency pics! That's why I like SP that have Twitter profile.

Ho Amanda. Yes she was good looking. But my god that body of her. She hit the gym a lot and it showed.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2716562]Toronto. It's bit more expensive then Montreal (not that much). There is more agency. Quality is very good. And it's a fun city to visit (would not have said that 20 years ago but things have change for the better there).[/QUOTE]Hey Jalimon,

What 2-3 agencies would you recommend?

I'm visiting for the first time in a few weeks.

[QUOTE=Alohatapshake;2732558]Hey Jalimon,

What 2-3 agencies would you recommend?

I'm visiting for the first time in a few weeks.[/QUOTE]In order for the one I know:

Euphoria.

Vog.

XO.

Velvet.

2 agencies that seems to be getting interest lately:

Sensation.

Luxury.

I would not venture with the others. I know not much about massage place as I don't go there. If you go indy look for the one advertising on Merb. Do not venture on leolist 99% is bait.

[QUOTE=Paspartu74;2730760]Is this the Thai place? Can you share a tip how to find their number and location?[/QUOTE]Can you please shear her contact and possible to shear few pics?

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2732876]In order for the one I know:

Euphoria.

Vog.

XO.

Velvet.

2 agencies that seems to be getting interest lately:

Sensation.

Luxury.

I would not venture with the others. I know not much about massage place as I don't go there. If you go indy look for the one advertising on Merb. Do not venture on leolist 99% is bait.[/QUOTE]For Toronto, not Montreal.

Last time I was in Montreal, I missed one of my ATF, Elly from XO. It was the day she came back temporarily. There was some amazing talent back then between her, Kat, and Scarlet.

[QUOTE=Alohatapshake;2733008]For Toronto, not Montreal.

Last time I was in Montreal, I missed one of my ATF, Elly from XO. It was the day she came back temporarily. There was some amazing talent back then between her, Kat, and Scarlet.[/QUOTE]So go to the Toronto thread. To agencies are discussed there.

There is no top 3 like Montreal. There are many large agencies that are very popular. It's much bigger scene. It's also spread out.

[QUOTE=Alohatapshake;2733008]For Toronto, not Montreal.

Last time I was in Montreal, I missed one of my ATF, Elly from XO. It was the day she came back temporarily. There was some amazing talent back then between her, Kat, and Scarlet.[/QUOTE]Ho Toronto sorry! You should go on Terb.

I used to travel to Toronto often but to be honest I only saw girl from Allegra. The only one still there that I saw is Kimber Ryan. She was awesome. Got a cimsw finish that she 'required' But I see she's now 500/ hour. Good lord Toronto is now quite expensive. Saw her at 300 3 years ago.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2733252]Ho Toronto sorry! You should go on Terb.

I used to travel to Toronto often but to be honest I only saw girl from Allegra. The only one still there that I saw is Kimber Ryan. She was awesome. Got a cimsw finish that she 'required' But I see she's now 500/ hour. Good lord Toronto is now quite expensive. Saw her at 300 3 years ago.[/QUOTE]Post-COVID the Toronto agency price range ratcheted up to 260-300/ hour. Now I see some agency girls (not superstars necessarily) are trying to get 320.

I hope Montreal stays tame on prices, but one would believe more Montreal girls will make Toronto visits. And more Toronto guys will plan long weekends in Montreal.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2733317]Post-COVID the Toronto agency price range ratcheted up to 260-300/ hour. Now I see some agency girls (not superstars necessarily) are trying to get 320.

I hope Montreal stays tame on prices, but one would believe more Montreal girls will make Toronto visits. And more Toronto guys will plan long weekends in Montreal.[/QUOTE]Back in February 2020, I had planned a visit to Montreal to hook up with Nala Baez (gorgeous escort) and one of the incall places like Montreal Nuru (I even posted about this here on ISG). I believe that Nala Baez's rate was 250 Canadian dollars for one hour back then. Unfortunately, COVID took over so I never made the trip.

I finally had the chance to plan a visit to Montreal this summer, only to find that Nala is in Toronto (advertising as an independent) and charging a minimum of 500 Canadian dollars for one hour, stating that she prefers that a newbie client book 1. 5 hours for 750 Canadian. Huh?

I hope that her prices are lower than that when she returns to Montreal. I realize that Nala has received lots of great reviews but $750 is an awful lot of money.

Anyone using SA and escorts may want to glance at this. Please take it with a pinch of salt.

[URL]www.whatisasugarbaby.com/how-much-does-sugar-daddy-pay-sugar-baby-allowance-per-visit.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=MightySpearsman;2733515]Back in February 2020, I had planned a visit to Montreal to hook up with Nala Baez (gorgeous escort) and one of the incall places like Montreal Nuru (I even posted about this here on ISG). I believe that Nala Baez's rate was 250 Canadian dollars for one hour back then. Unfortunately, COVID took over so I never made the trip.

I finally had the chance to plan a visit to Montreal this summer, only to find that Nala is in Toronto (advertising as an independent) and charging a minimum of 500 Canadian dollars for one hour, stating that she prefers that a newbie client book 1. 5 hours for 750 Canadian. Huh?

I hope that her prices are lower than that when she returns to Montreal. I realize that Nala has received lots of great reviews but $750 is an awful lot of money.[/QUOTE]Once a popular agency girl goes independent, she can get pretty expensive. We've talked about it here. Based on an independent's solid reputation and established customers, they can become masters of variable pricing. They might have a book of clients that pay one rate and newbies pay a higher list price.

Once a girl like Nala begins touring Canada, it's not a good thing for pricing from a client perspective.

[QUOTE=NapataJohn;2733613]Anyone using SA and escorts may want to glance at this. Please take it with a pinch of salt.

[URL]www.whatisasugarbaby.com/how-much-does-sugar-daddy-pay-sugar-baby-allowance-per-visit.html[/URL][/QUOTE]SA is very popular. Many girl on it. Many escort also use SA to get their clientele. It does work.

1. Girl that message you back on the site, ask for an email to get the discussion out of SA as fast as you can.

2. No social date, have her confirm intimacy on the first date. If she's not sure make a meet up in a safe place like a coffee shop and say she can leave if not sure.

3. Pay per visit (they often try to hook you up for the week and ask like 1.5 k. You fall into the trap it seems cheap. Then she vanish for the rest of the week).

4. It's not cheap! It's actually often more pricy then escort. They want big buck. But you will see absolute great looking student healthy girl.

5. It's time consuming!

6. Have a plan be. These young girl are busy and in demand. If a big shot offers more you're out without warning. A girl told me once her 'daddy' pays full 10 h day to stay at the hotel on his visit to Montreal because he does not know when he can see her. Some have too much cash!

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2733720]SA is very popular. Many girl on it. Many escort also use SA to get their clientele. It does work.

1. Girl that message you back on the site, ask for an email to get the discussion out of SA as fast as you can.

2. No social date, have her confirm intimacy on the first date. If she's not sure make a meet up in a safe place like a coffee shop and say she can leave if not sure.

3. Pay per visit (they often try to hook you up for the week and ask like 1.5 k. You fall into the trap it seems cheap. Then she vanish for the rest of the week).

4. It's not cheap! It's actually often more pricy then escort. They want big buck. But you will see absolute great looking student healthy girl.

5. It's time consuming!

6. Have a plan be. These young girl are busy and in demand. If a big shot offers more you're out without warning. A girl told me once her 'daddy' pays full 10 h day to stay at the hotel on his visit to Montreal because he does not know when he can see her. Some have too much cash![/QUOTE]This is all true. But you are overstating #4 cost. If you correspond with a lot of Montreal SA girls, you should be able to find an attractive girl for 300 or a little more. The benefit is that for the amount you pay a top escort you could have an evening companion, dinner, drinks plus sex. If you act like a sex-focused weirdo, you will have a hard time.

Of course, there are girls on SA asking for ridiculous money and gifts. You can many times figure that out by reading her profile.

The Seeking Arrangements thread here under the category Dating Agencies goes into all the strategy and technique in detail.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2733797] If you act like a sex-focused weirdo, you will have a hard time.
[/QUOTE]In one sentence. The problem of course is that I AM a sex obsessed weirdo and attempting to pretend otherwise causes me to pull muscles at my age.

Hb.

[QUOTE=HarvestBoi;2733906]In one sentence. The problem of course is that I AM a sex obsessed weirdo and attempting to pretend otherwise causes me to pull muscles at my age.

Hb.[/QUOTE]A sex obsessed weirdo with money does not need to tug and pull his own vital muscle, he can have a vagina do that for him.

[QUOTE=HarvestBoi;2733906]In one sentence. The problem of course is that I AM a sex obsessed weirdo and attempting to pretend otherwise causes me to pull muscles at my age.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Turgid;2734074]A sex obsessed weirdo with money does not need to tug and pull his own vital muscle, he can have a vagina do that for him.[/QUOTE]It's all discussed in great detail on the Seeking Arrangements thread. I believe Jalimon has learned the hard way that you can't go on SA and ask the girls about sex acts and prices. He reported you need to get them to discuss things off SA (I. E. Whatsapp, et cetera). And generally, considerable discretion is still needed to advance to "Go". Some girls will report you to SA and have you suspended if you are not discreet. Seeking Arrangements does not want to be shut down by the puritan USA Law enforcement.

It can all be rather confusing on a mental level. It's a sex site! It's a dating site! Sex site! Dating site!

While there are some true pros on the site, they might not deliver on the companionship quotient. Many girls on SA like the veneer of a date before jumping into bed for money. Many guys on SA seem to like it too. They will tell you that on the SA thread. And a few guys will occasionally go to the SA thread and insist the girls are prostitutes. Honestly, it's not worth having those discussions. The labels are not necessary. It is, what it is to you.

The girls choose who they "date". The pretty girls are contacted by many guys. So you need to be able to have interesting conversations on-line, show them a nice evening and make them comfortable back at your place. There are conversations off-line that amount to discussing intimate time at your place after a nice dinner, drinks, etc. And even then, some girls will not agree to that on a first date. You generally don't want to be drawn into successive non-sex dates. Bottom-line, don't contact SA girls and ask "can I get two shots on goal on our date?" or can I "cum in your mouth?" And probably the one they hear the most "can we have sex without a condom?" Good luck and happy hunting.

After trial and error I concluded the quality of escorts in Montreal is so good that there's no need to venture out to SA. Chances are you'll end up with a semi pro in SA anyways.

Try to be nice to some of the agency girls, make good passionate love to them and don't be afraid to discuss meeting for drinks or dinner. If you find good chemistry with one, money won't even have to be discussed, take them to a nice place to dine and come back to your hotel for a night of fun. Give them a nice compensation for the time, and now you have yourself a nice thing.

YMMV, but I think if you are moderately attractive, I'm not, but nice enough, I try, you can score even civi girls in Montreal. If not, like I said, agencies have so much to offer that you won't miss a beat anyways. My 2 cents.

Sorry been away for a bit.

Just Google the exotic paradise Montreal.

[QUOTE=Paspartu74;2730760]Is this the Thai place? Can you share a tip how to find their number and location?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2733692]Once a popular agency girl goes independent, she can get pretty expensive. We've talked about it here. Based on an independent's solid reputation and established customers, they can become masters of variable pricing. They might have a book of clients that pay one rate and newbies pay a higher list price.

Once a girl like Nala begins touring Canada, it's not a good thing for pricing from a client perspective.[/QUOTE]This is happening with independents also.

Perfect example is Katrina Vianna (Katrinagirl).

She was voted number 1 Indy last year by the local board.

I saw her 2 years ago at $250 HR.

Today it is $500 and she wants a $100 deposit for all appointments.

She is undoubtedly gorgeous and has earned her reputation, just an amazing provider and worth every penny and I don't blame her at all for the increase, she is a smart lady and obviously is still very much in demand even with her new prices.

Will I see her again, still thinking about it, I was lucky to have seen her when she was not as well known.

Finally made it back to my favourite hobbying destination after years of lockdown and travel restrictions, and (mostly) had a great time. It may just be the quality of their website photography, but my initial impression was that Euphoria had the best looking roster and I planned to mostly use them. As luck would have it though, I didn't actually get to meet any of my chosen girls, as some were on a break (Brooke, Heaven, Veronique and Yana), one seems to have retired (Taylor), and one was instantly fully booked (Cersei).

Moved to Plan be, and as my preference is for outcalls, most of my bookings were with Vogue. As in previous years, I found them easy to deal with and they generally had girls available even at short notice.

Maeva, Vogue.

My trip got off to a disastrous start with Maeva, one of the worst sessions I've ever had in my life. Was originally supposed to see Sasha but she cancelled. The booker texted me a few pics of Maeva, and as she looked great I saw her instead for a late evening (11 pm) booking. Maeva is a slim, pretty blonde around 20, with perky be cup tits, who would normally be exactly my type, but the whole thing turned out to be an uncomfortable waste of money. The first thing Maeva said to me was "I'm so tired, I can't wait to get home", and things went downhill from there. Her English isn't good and my French is terrible so we had communication issues, but she clearly just did not want to be with me. Kissing was restricted to little closed-mouth pecks (which was perhaps for the good, as she had eaten something spicy and her breath was foul). She claimed to be extremely ticklish, so kissing or gently touching any part of her body saw her squirming out of reach; she did not allow DATY; and she was even reluctant to do BBBJ. As it was my first session in a while I didn't last long in FS, but there was no option for another shot. Within seconds of me coming Maeva was off me and into the shower, then out the room less than 40 minutes after she arrived. I didn't have change and had left out $250 for her $240 fee; I was not looking for it, but Maeva did not offer to give the $10 change. Perhaps it's just her age, perhaps she was indeed exhausted, or perhaps she just generally gives a very restricted service, but it was a terrible session.

Would not recommend, would not repeat.

Cassandra, Vogue.

I texted Vogue to tell them of my disappointment with Maeva, and to their credit Celine apologised and gave me a $40 discount from my next booking.

This was Cassandra, and I cannot imagine a bigger contrast with Maeva. Cassandra was warm and friendly from the start, greeting me with a big kiss and a hug, and my hour with her flew by. After a drink and a chat she excused herself to the bathroom, and reappeared shortly after in a sexy crotchless negligee and silk robe. Absolutely beautiful girl, long dark hair, curvy (not fat) body with full natural see cup breasts and a great ass. She was passionate, involved and just plain fun. I believe she only works limited shifts, and it shows in her great service; she is a smart girl, very chilled out and a great conversationalist who speaks English well (but with a very sexy Qubecois accent). Only restrictions were no anal or CIM, which I had no issue with. So my faith in Vogue was restored, and I particularly appreciated the effort Cassandra made with the classy lingerie. I wish more girls would do that, I adore the visuals of a hot girl in lingerie and love to "unwrap" my present. The fee was $210 ($250 less my discount).

Would recommend, and would repeat.

Ana, LE Penthouse.

I had never been to a massage parlour in Montreal, and fancied the idea of an oily bodyslide and BBBJ with a hot girl. LE Penthouse has been around for a while so I took that as a good sign, and (despite some over the top photoshopping), the girls on their website looked fantastic. It's a bit out of the city centre (though still convenient for the metro), so rather than risk no girls being available, I made a booking with Ana. I arrived 10 minutes early, but instantly started to regret my booking with the bad vibes I got from the brusque unfriendly receptionist. I asked to meet the other available girls while I was waiting for Ana with a view to a future visit, but was told this was not permitted. Apparently only walk-in's without an appointment are allowed to meet the ladies. Okay, whatever. I was then shown into one of their basic rooms, but was charged for a VIP room. I must say, Ana looked hot when she came in, exactly like her website pictures. She is a petite young blonde, pretty (despite the ridiculous lip filler), curvy, and with massive firm natural 32 DDD tits. Her English is good, but engaging her in small talk proved a waste of time as she was distant, cold and mechanical throughout my session. I am easy going and try to be friendly with the girls, but I felt Ana pretty much treated me with contempt. In addition to the room fee of $70, Ana told me a CBJ was an extra $160, and FS $200. Kissing and BBBJ were most definitely not on offer with her, and she said of those girls that did offer this "GFE" service, the fee would be $300. To my disappointment Ana used lotion instead of oil, but as her bodyslide was pretty cursory I suppose it did not really make any difference. Despite her hostility, feeling those fantastic tits got me so turned on that to my immense frustration, I could feel myself about to cum. After an initial protest, Ana reluctantly allowed me to take the condom off for a tit wank (though only after warning me that she would charge another $100 if I got any cum on her tits! Those fabulous breasts were too much for me and I came far too quickly. Ana made no offer to continue the service, immediately jumping into the shower before disappearing from the room completely. After showering and dressing alone in the room, I was wondering whether to leave when Ana reappeared, explaining she had to leave "to dispose of the condom". Sure, okay. Around 40 minutes after the start, my session was clearly ended. The receptionist said "see you again" as I was leaving, prompting me to say how disappointed I had been with Ana's coldness and very limited service, but all I got was a lecture on how "BBBJ is unsafe and the customer's health and safety is their top priority". In summary, I felt LE Penthouse was one big ripoff from start to finish. A 30 minute booking just to play with Ana's tits might have been satisfying, but with hindsight I wish I had just stuck to the downtown agencies.

Would not recommend, would not repeat.

Zoey, Vogue.

Zoey has some quite hostile reviews on the green board, and while I can sort of see why, I must say I had a good time with her. The Vogue website does not make it clear that Zoey is of mixed race African descent, so she is definitely not the white Parisienne girl you might be expecting, but I found her pretty with fine defined cheekbones, nice smile, long dark hair in a pigtail, a slim toned body, and in particular long nipples that are extremely responsive to being sucked. She is very chatty (which I liked), and over a glass of wine I found her strong minded and opinionated (which I also liked). I am guessing this has put off some of the green board members, who complain they found her rude and pushy. Zoey certainly took control of my session. After our drink, she asked if I would like her to change into lingerie (which I certainly did), explaining this would take her 5 to 6 minutes (which it did). She looked so sexy when she emerged from the bathroom wearing a barely there bondage type outfit, and our session quickly got hot and heavy. She gives a terrific wet and sloppy BBBJ, taking time to check I was enjoying it and responding enthusiastically to my request to lick my balls. She was also vocal in telling me exactly how she likes DATY, which was fine by me as I love pleasuring women. I was enjoying our 69 so much that I told her I was happy to keep going with it, but Zoey basically demanded I fuck her and I'm glad she did as FS in cowgirl and doggy was deep and vigorous. Only negative for me was she demanded a ludicrous $100 for CIM. I was so close to the point of no return that I had to agree, but I do think this was wildly excessive. Anyway, I will not not complain too much as she is a very sexy 30-something lady who knows what she wants, is happy to do exactly what you want, and will give you an hour of pure sex. Her fee was $240.

Would recommend, but probably would not repeat as I am more naturally drawn to the pretty young things.

Fay, XO.

Fay is listed as a petite, late 20's American brunette on the XO website, and as I like both petite girls and to have a nice chat, I booked a one hour outcall with her. I had numerous booking hassles with XO on my last visit to Montreal, but everything went smoothly this time and Fay arrived on time (although the XO booker texted me that her fee was "$250 plus $20 taxi plus tip", which I thought was a bit cheeky). Anyway, Fay was lovely. Smartly dressed, pretty, slim with long dark hair, and clearly a very classy lady. She is very clever and lovely to chat with, is well travelled, and seems to be a very successful business woman who just does a small number of shifts with XO which she approaches with enthusiasm and an open mind. She indulged my request to get hot and slippery with my bottle of baby oil with a seductive smile, and we had a great time sliding over each other in between bouts of BBBJ and DATY. I honestly cannot remember how I came and if she offered CIM, but in any case, Fay is the kind of girl who will make you feel good about life, yourself, and the pleasure of hassle free sex.

As with Zoey, I would recommend but personally maybe would not repeat (which I realise shows how shallow I am).

Charlie, Vogue.

Charlie was recommended to me by Celine at Vogue, and she proved to be a very solid provider and I really enjoyed my hour with her. There is a strange debate on the green board about whether Charlie's face is too angular. I did not see the issue at all, and thought she was very beautiful. She is probably mid 20's, and the photos on the Vogue website are accurate; tall and slim, long red hair, small perky tits, and a cute hot student vibe. She was friendly from the outset, greeting me with a warm smile and a kiss, and she looked great in a little black crop top and figure hugging pale blue jeans. After a drink and some small talk, I couldn't wait to get my hands under that crop top, but Charlie disappointed me by asking if she could take a shower. I have no problem with the girls showering on my time after a session, but I must say I was a bit annoyed that she had not arrived freshly showered and it momentarily killed the mood. She was gone for what felt like ages, and worse, when she did finally reappear she was wrapped in a towel with wet hair rather than the sexy lingerie I was imagining her to be changing into. Anyway, things picked up once she started kissing me and the towel came off, and she has a great body. I spent a while tasting her sweet little pussy, then got to work with the baby oil and had a lot of fun playing with her slippery oiled breasts. Charlie's reviews on the green site highlighted her blow job skills, so I decided to let her go to work and I must confess she gives fantastic head. Lots of attention to the shaft and balls, and at times she took me deep, all with a good amount of spitting and saliva. Charlie had told me CIM was an extra $40 and I really wanted to finish in her mouth, so we settled into an extended blow job where I was thrusting hard into her mouth, which she took without complaint. I finally exploded into her mouth for a very satisfying cum, and Charlie sucked my dick until I was spent. I loved that, as some girls rush to the bathroom as soon as you finish to spit out your cum. She took another shower then came out of the bathroom in that sexy top again. Not sure what it was exactly, but god it turned me on. I rarely manage more than one shot nowadays, though, so I was not tempted to extend. Charlie's fee was $250, and apart from my mild annoyance about the two showers, I had a great time with her and she worked hard to please me.

Would recommend, and would repeat.

Ashley, Sensations.

By the time of my booking with Ashley I was running a bit low on stamina, but my goodness, I definitely lucked out in finding her and she was far and away the highlight of my trip. In fact, it was one of the most full on sessions I ever had, and I absolutely adored her. Ashley was about 20 minutes late in arriving in the early hours of the morning, but the booker kept me updated so it was not a problem. When she did arrive, I was blown away. Ashley is a beautiful blonde (facially perhaps a little like Amanda Seyfried), wearing a classy little black dress and pink heels. She greeted me with the widest smile and literally ran into my arms, planting me with the most passionate kisses. And this was before we had even got into the room! She is from British Columbia so we had a nice chat and a wine, then Ashley decided things were moving too slowly and jumped into my lap. More deep kissing, then the dress came off to reveal a trim figure and jaw dropping big natural breasts. She slid down to her knees, took my cock out of my pants, and sucked like an angel while looking up at me with those big eyes. Her tits were just asking to be oiled up, and after the two of us writhed around in a slippery tangle, we got into a vigorous 69. To my eternal regret, my dick failed me and I just could not cum, perhaps because Ashley is so full on that I could not take her vigorous wanking and sucking any more, but I satisfied myself by giving her multiple orgasms. She is absolutely non-stop, and I got a final cum out of her even after time was up and she was intending to go to the bathroom. She made the mistake of kissing me one more time, I slid down to taste her pussy for a last time, and we were off again. I cannot remember ever being kissed so passionately in a session and she a wonderful genuine girl who is kind, sweet and sexy as hell. I had not heard of Sensations and only came across their website by accident, and I am cursing I did not find them sooner. Ashley's fee was $260. Sensations advertise a duo with Ashley and another girl, and I will regret forever that I did not get the chance to experience that. I have my fingers crossed Ashley is still working next year when I plan to return to Montreal.

Would recommend, and would repeat.

Lanah is a great girl, super fun and easy going. Very GFE. Her photo is somewhat glamoured up but she is still very nice, about 8/10. If I wasn't this selfish ID go see her again, but now I want to see someone different haha. Euphoria is easy to deal with. Lanah has a nice flat in Southwest Montreal 5-20 minute walk from my hotel downtown.

Whinger, great reviews. Thank you for your posts.

Sensation is a new agency on my radar. I'm sure the locals have more knowledge and history with the Montreal agency dynamics. It seems to me that Euphoria, Escorts XO and Vogue have dominated the scene for a few years. A star might pop up at a second tier agency and she gets poached by one of the big three. Of course, some popular girls never leave their second tier agencies.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2735697]Whinger, great reviews. Thank you for your posts.

Sensation is a new agency on my radar. I'm sure the locals have more knowledge and history with the Montreal agency dynamics. It seems to me that Euphoria, Escorts XO and Vogue have dominated the scene for a few years. A star might pop up at a second tier agency and she gets poached by one of the big three. Of course, some popular girls never leave their second tier agencies.[/QUOTE]XO has a new manager and are now out of Merb, which I am not sure is good. Let's see if they hold up. Without Kate and Arielle (still on display but I know Kate stopped and Arielle very rarely works) I am not sure if they should remain in the big 3. We'll see.

Thanks Whinger! I had that Ashley on the radar. She might make me do a comeback to see an SP soon (haven't since Nov 2021).

[QUOTE=Whinger;2735449]
Ana, LE Penthouse.

I had never been to a massage parlour in Montreal, and fancied the idea of an oily bodyslide and BBBJ with a hot girl. LE Penthouse has been around for a while. BBBJ were most definitely not on offer with her, and she said of those girls that did offer this "GFE" service, the fee would be $300. After an initial protest, Ana reluctantly allowed me to take the condom off for a tit wank (though only after warning me that she would charge another $100 if I got any cum on her tits! Those fabulous breasts were too much for me and I came far too quickly. Ana made no offer to continue the service, immediately jumping into the shower before disappearing from the room completely. The receptionist said "see you again" as I was leaving, prompting me to say how disappointed I had been with Ana's coldness and very limited service, but all I got was a lecture on how "BBBJ is unsafe and the customer's health and safety is their top priority". In summary, I felt LE Penthouse was one big ripoff from start to finish. A 30 minute booking just to play with Ana's tits might have been satisfying, but with hindsight I wish I had just stuck to the downtown agencies.

Would not recommend, would not repeat.[/QUOTE]Thanks a lot for this review. The Green Board does not allow reviews of Massage places, so exept if asking trough Private Messages, you can't really know much about them. Obviously the pictures are heavily photoshoped but like you I been looking at them and was interested to see someone there, but the whole a la card ymmv thing always turned me away. And you pretty much confirmed my fears. A Standard GFE would bump the price to nearly 400 $, wich is the price you could expect by a well reviewed ans reputed indy, but not a random agency girl with no reviews etc. And it seem at LE Penthouse its not really much of a thing. 100 $ for a COB is ludacris. Thats was included in just about every agency meeting I had. CIM or COF may be extras between 40 and 60 $ but never been charged for a COB. The receptionist lecturing you on BBBJ may just be the cherry on top. She seem to be in the wrong business.

[QUOTE=JosephBrenner;2735817]Thanks a lot for this review. The Green Board does not allow reviews of Massage places, so exept if asking trough Private Messages, you can't really know much about them. Obviously the pictures are heavily photoshoped but like you I been looking at them and was interested to see someone there, but the whole a la card ymmv thing always turned me away. And you pretty much confirmed my fears. A Standard GFE would bump the price to nearly 400 $, wich is the price you could expect by a well reviewed ans reputed indy, but not a random agency girl with no reviews etc. And it seem at LE Penthouse its not really much of a thing. 100 $ for a COB is ludacris. Thats was included in just about every agency meeting I had. CIM or COF may be extras between 40 and 60 $ but never been charged for a COB. The receptionist lecturing you on BBBJ may just be the cherry on top. She seem to be in the wrong business.[/QUOTE]It's well known by locals that LePenthouse has some great girl who are there because of the $$ It's a rip off place.

I heard some good about YPG because it's well run. Other good massage place I don't know as I never went to any.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2736036]It's well known by locals that LePenthouse has some great girl who are there because of the $$ It's a rip off place.

I heard some good about YPG because it's well run. Other good massage place I don't know as I never went to any.[/QUOTE]Same goes for Rouge Massage.

Some of the girls are actually stunning.

$70 for room $220 for girl includes covered FS, and BJ, no kissing or oral on her.

I guess if if you want to be with someone who is totally gorgeous and pleasant to talk it is OK, but as far as bang for your buck most Indies that advertise on the local board or the popular agency girls are a much better value and experience.

My one and only adventure into an MP, won't be back.

I know a few guys also who say that YPG is by far the best MP place, never went there and I think I will stick with the Indy's I usually see.

[QUOTE=Hacsek;2736429]I know a few guys also who say that YPG is by far the best MP place[/QUOTE]I met the owner at the GT and I knew the girl I was seeing. It was 2018 , and it cost me 190 CDN all in.

But that was before the pandemic.

Mari and her crew had the reputation of no nonsense, so I was comfortable checking it out.

Best Regards.

Smuler.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2735743]XO has a new manager and are now out of Merb, which I am not sure is good. Let's see if they hold up. Without Kate and Arielle (still on display but I know Kate stopped and Arielle very rarely works) I am not sure if they should remain in the big 3. We'll see.

Thanks Whinger! I had that Ashley on the radar. She might make me do a comeback to see an SP soon (haven't since Nov 2021).[/QUOTE]Just saw that Kate is back at XO! If you are not convince look at her Twitter.

[QUOTE=Whinger;2735449]Finally made it back to my favourite hobbying destination after years of lockdown and travel restrictions, and (mostly) had a great time. It may just be the quality of their website photography, but my initial impression was that Euphoria had the best looking roster and I planned to mostly use them. As luck would have it though, I didn't actually get to meet any of my chosen girls, as some were on a break (Brooke, Heaven, Veronique and Yana), one seems to have retired (Taylor), and one was instantly fully booked (Cersei).

Moved to Plan be, and as my preference is for outcalls, most of my bookings were with Vogue. As in previous years, I found them easy to deal with and they generally had girls available even at short notice.

Maeva, Vogue.

My trip got off to a disastrous start with Maeva, one of the worst sessions I've ever had in my life. Was originally supposed to see Sasha but she cancelled. The booker texted me a few pics of Maeva, and as she looked great I saw her instead for a late evening (11 pm) booking. Maeva is a slim, pretty blonde around 20, with perky be cup tits, who would normally be exactly my type, but the whole thing turned out to be an uncomfortable waste of money. The first thing Maeva said to me was "I'm so tired, I can't wait to get home", and things went downhill from there. Her English isn't good and my French is terrible so we had communication issues, but she clearly just did not want to be with me. Kissing was restricted to little closed-mouth pecks (which was perhaps for the good, as she had eaten something spicy and her breath was foul). She claimed to be extremely ticklish, so kissing or gently touching any part of her body saw her squirming out of reach; she did not allow DATY; and she was even reluctant to do BBBJ. As it was my first session in a while I didn't last long in FS, but there was no option for another shot. Within seconds of me coming Maeva was off me and into the shower, then out the room less than 40 minutes after she arrived. I didn't have change and had left out $250 for her $240 fee; I was not looking for it, but Maeva did not offer to give the $10 change. Perhaps it's just her age, perhaps she was indeed exhausted, or perhaps she just generally gives a very restricted service, but it was a terrible session.

[/QUOTE]Lurker here, You lucked out with Sasha, IMO she is obese. Had her recently, she has to be 160 lbs, her stomach sticks out and the photoshop pics are just straight up sorcery. The greenboard has to have a lot of shills in there. One of the reviews there said the same thing and he was being gaslighted as to her not being fat. She was FAT, made me want to avoid vogue.

[QUOTE=Whinger;2735449]...... The first thing Maeva said to me was "I'm so tired, I can't wait to get home", and things went downhill from there.......[/QUOTE]This is why I like German FKKs. Imagine being in a club with 60 naked women and you approach one and the first thing she tells you is: "I'm so tired, I can't wait to get home".

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2737570]Just saw that Kate is back at XO! If you are not convince look at her Twitter.[/QUOTE]Hey,

I don't really use forums like this much and if my question is one that shouldn't be asked then by all means ignore. I am visiting Montreal soon and was thinking of going to a FS massage place cause I heard it's legal to do that there. Then I seen you post about XO and looked at some of the woman on there and was interested.

I guess my questions are first is this something I have to worry about getting caught doing? I am so confused by the laws cause basically it seems like they can offer but I can't ask for it and I don't know how that works with stuff like XO. Second if it's cool to go through them I know they have an hourly rate is it customary to tip and if so what is considered a decent tip. Again if this is something that shouldn't be asked I understand.

[QUOTE=Somedude2932;2740036]Hey,

I don't really use forums like this much and if my question is one that shouldn't be asked then by all means ignore. I am visiting Montreal soon and was thinking of going to a FS massage place cause I heard it's legal to do that there. Then I seen you post about XO and looked at some of the woman on there and was interested.

I guess my questions are first is this something I have to worry about getting caught doing? I am so confused by the laws cause basically it seems like they can offer but I can't ask for it and I don't know how that works with stuff like XO. Second if it's cool to go through them I know they have an hourly rate is it customary to tip and if so what is considered a decent tip. Again if this is something that shouldn't be asked I understand.[/QUOTE]It is okay to be confused by the law in Canada because it is a clusterfuck.

Bottom line is that you can pay for sex in Montreal, Toronto and Vancouver without worrying about being arrested as long as the lady is 18 or over, and the lady is not forced into prostitution.

There is no legal difference between getting an escort for outcall, at her incall, or at a full-service massage parlor.

Now let's discuss the law, which is called c36.

The basic statute says that prostitution is illegal.

Since Canada has the Nordic Model, some people describe the system as legal to sell, illegal to purchase.

That is an efficient way to put it, but not really correct. The problem in the Charter of Rights that says everyone is equal and the laws must be applied equally to every person, whether male or female, black, white or aboriginal.

To get around that frustrating part of the Constitution, the law says that the seller of sex is simply exempt from prosecution of the criminal act of prostitution.

The courts in the province of Ontario have not taken kindly to the blanket exclusion of sellers of sex from prosecution and several of the Ontario court cases have essentially ruled c36 as being unconstitutional. But the cases limited the scope of the decisions to the province of Ontario.

The reason that these cases are not that big of a deal is that long before those cases were heard, the police in Montreal, Toronto and Vancouver announced a prioritization policy, often called a non enforcement bulletin, where they said that consensual adult prostitution would receive the lowest possible priority, unless evidence exists that the seller of sex is a minor or that she was forced to commit the compensated sex act.

The Ontario cases, by the way, were brought in jurisdictions outside of Toronto.

So life goes on as though c36 never happened. If you book a lady from any of the major agencies or book an independent who has her own website, she is going to be 18 or over, and not coerced. If you want to approach this with an abundance of caution, stay away from mass classified advertising sites like LeoList and Humpchies. There is no real control of who is advertising on those low-end sites.

Massage parlors are certainly fine, also.

Law enforcement within Montreal will not give you any problem. You should however, delete phone calls and texts to escorts and escort agencies from your phone before going through Border Patrol. And don't have auto log-in on your phone or laptop to an email address you use to communicate with sex workers. Border Patrol has some bad actors who go on power trips. They are federal and are not part of the local law enforcement agencies that issued the prioritization policy. About 1 out of 100 visitors gets selected for additional screening in a separate room, and they do go through your basic phone history.

[QUOTE=Somedude2932;2740036]Hey,

I don't really use forums like this much and if my question is one that shouldn't be asked then by all means ignore. I am visiting Montreal soon and was thinking of going to a FS massage place cause I heard it's legal to do that there. Then I seen you post about XO and looked at some of the woman on there and was interested.

I guess my questions are first is this something I have to worry about getting caught doing? I am so confused by the laws cause basically it seems like they can offer but I can't ask for it and I don't know how that works with stuff like XO. Second if it's cool to go through them I know they have an hourly rate is it customary to tip and if so what is considered a decent tip. Again if this is something that shouldn't be asked I understand.[/QUOTE]And as to your other question, no. Tipping is not really part of Montreal sex work culture. Most ladies charge a supplement for anal sex, and a few charge extra for CIM. Those aren't really tips, but are surcharges.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2740128]And as to your other question, no. Tipping is not really part of Montreal sex work culture. Most ladies charge a supplement for anal sex, and a few charge extra for CIM. Those aren't really tips, but are surcharges.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the response it was very helpful. This is probably another noob question but what is a non-application number or what is merb? I was told to use these but never heard of either.

[QUOTE=Somedude2932;2740371]Thank you for the response it was very helpful. This is probably another noob question but what is a non-application number or what is merb? I was told to use these but never heard of either.[/QUOTE]Merb is the local review board.

[QUOTE=Hacsek;2716305]There is nothing like it in Montreal.

You have 3 options.

1. Escorts from an agency.

2. Independent Escorts.

3. Massage Parlours.

Suggest you log onto local escort review forum and use agencies and Indy's advertising there as there are a few sights that usually come up on a search that are full of bait and switch and scam artists and could even be dangerous.

The following are safe places.

Agency's: Vog, XO, Euphoria.

Indy's: Indy companion has many Indy's that are decent and safe.

MP: YPG, Rouge Massage, Mayas Massage, Adagio.

More can be found on the local review board or if you check the history of this sight here.[/QUOTE]Been reading these forums and this looks to be the options in Montreal in terms of pay to play. With that being said, any recommendations on nightlife for a good looking, young, healthy male?

In addition, are there any strip club recommendations? As someone who frequents South America often I prefer to window shop and pick and choose, rather than spending hours online and meeting girls virtually per se. I like to spark up a conversation with a girl in person and get a feel for their energy.

I'll be in Montreal for work early October and was hoping to scout some local talent. If any wingmen would like to get together, feel free to shoot a DM.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2739225]This is why I like German FKKs. Imagine being in a club with 60 naked women and you approach one and the first thing she tells you is: "I'm so tired, I can't wait to get home".[/QUOTE]Its not often, but I have booked for late at night / girls last shift etc, I haven't had one blurt that out or show me disinterest attributable to a long night.

I would have ceased it / cut my losses and send her away w / $40 and let the agency know.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2737570]Just saw that Kate is back at XO! If you are not convince look at her Twitter.[/QUOTE]She has added pounds. However her asshole was horny.

[QUOTE=Whinger;2735451]



Fay, XO.

Fay is listed as a petite, late 20's American brunette on the XO website, and as I like both petite girls and to have a nice chat, I booked a one hour outcall with her. I had numerous booking hassles with XO on my last visit to Montreal, but everything went smoothly this time and Fay arrived on time (although the XO booker texted me that her fee was "$250 plus $20 taxi plus tip", which I thought was a bit cheeky).

.[/QUOTE]I recently did a 1 HR outcall for someone at XO and I was quoted $300 total.

[QUOTE=Mcd2293;2740917]Been reading these forums and this looks to be the options in Montreal in terms of pay to play. With that being said, any recommendations on nightlife for a good looking, young, healthy male?

In addition, are there any strip club recommendations? As someone who frequents South America often I prefer to window shop and pick and choose, rather than spending hours online and meeting girls virtually per se. I like to spark up a conversation with a girl in person and get a feel for their energy.

I'll be in Montreal for work early October and was hoping to scout some local talent. If any wingmen would like to get together, feel free to shoot a DM.[/QUOTE]Montreal strip club were dying way before the pandemic. Since the pandemic it's even worse. I do not think that is still a good option for Montreal.

I recently got back from Montreal and so I will relay some of my experiences. I'm normally an incall guy since outcall in America is so much more annoying but I exclusively used outcall while in Montreal due to the fact I was doing tourist things. If you are doing a lot of tourist stuff, it definitely feels easier to book an appointment in the afternoon / night to come to you after a long day, and give you time to relax / wash up. If you're energized, you can also book a morning appointment (or visit the incall), do your tourist stuff, and then book in the afternoon / night. I stuck with VOG and found them easy to work with and schedule with. If you are looking to get the top tier girls, make sure to book early because they get swallowed up fast. I put some deeper reviews over on the green board but I'll leave some comments here and some advice, for what it's worth.

VOG Reviews:

Diana. She was decent overall but in comparison to the women that came afterward, our session was pretty meh. I did find that I wasn't too interested in her body type (she's really thin and arguably has a teenager-like body) and that could have been a factor as well. She wasn't too keen on kissing but was game for everything else. If you book her, treat her right and take things slowly if you are on the bigger size because she is tiny and you can definitely feel it right away.

Angela. She was decently attractive with a softer body (not a super fit and toned body like some of the other girls) and definitely works to please. She did have a few restrictions that made it a bit more business-like and she definitely gave off that vibe, but it was an overall good experience. She was also super chill to talk to.

Tori. Tori really has a great look that you'll see a lot of in Montreal, which is quite alluring. She was really cool to talk to and the sex was great. DFK, great BBJ, multiple positions, etc. For butt guys, I highly recommend. If you see her available, book it!

Laura. Her reviews on the green board are definitely correct. She is the real deal and really connects with you. There is not much more to add here. If you see her available, book it!

Stacey. Legitimately, she might be one of the most beautiful girls I've ever had the pleasure of spending time with in this hobby. Some of the other reviews have also said this so I don't think it's just a preference thing. She wasn't as open with DFK unlike Tori and Laura - she was good to start with LFK and as we got into it, it eventually turned into DFK so maybe she needs time to get warmed up (I kinda liked this in retrospect). But everything else was great from beginning to end. For butt guys, I highly recommend. If you see her available, book it! I'm really biased because she and I have a shared background so we really connected well, but she was my favorite of this trip and is definitely a Top 3 experience of my entire hobby.

Random thoughts:

I booked at the Intercontinental Montreal and it was a great place to stay. It's a little run-down and pretty tacky but the price is good for that area and it doesn't require a keycard for the elevators. It feels great to just have girls knock on your door and not deal with any hassles.

I'm not sure if it's specific to Montreal or to outcalls, but I definitely felt like the girls were looking for you to drive when and how things would progress. I'm too used to K-agencies and the "guided" experience you get so it felt like a funny quirk to have to push it forward like in real life. Still the girls were game for most everything if you want to set some ground rules and would tell you what they don't like if they weren't. Just make sure to watch your time.

The girls usually have an alarm that sounds at 15 minutes before the end of a session so don't expect to get some last minute action. That's their cue to hit the shower and get ready to leave (understandable since they have to go to other clients).

I do like a bit of DFK so it was a bit disappointing that it wasn't a given since it makes any type of foreplay a bit more transactional.

For zoomer and millennial mongers, it was refreshing to see how much it felt like a date atmosphere due to actually having shared history in tv / movies / music / etc. I met a regular girl at an event and we had a late night date afterward and I was struck by how similar the conversations were. So that's a nice little plus, in my view.

I'll definitely be heading back (hopefully soon).

[QUOTE=TheDerilious;2742389]I recently got back from Montreal and so I will relay some of my experiences[/QUOTE]Excellent report. Thanks for the hotel review as well. Vogue has always had a decent reputation.

Thanks for your time.

Best Regards.
Smuler.

[QUOTE=TheDerilious;2742389]I recently got back from Montreal and so I will relay some of my experiences. I'm normally an incall guy since outcall in America is so much more annoying but I exclusively used outcall while in Montreal due to the fact I was doing tourist things. If you are doing a lot of tourist stuff, it definitely feels easier to book an appointment in the afternoon / night to come to you after a long day, and give you time to relax / wash up. If you're energized, you can also book a morning appointment (or visit the incall), do your tourist stuff, and then book in the afternoon / night. I stuck with VOG and found them easy to work with and schedule with. If you are looking to get the top tier girls, make sure to book early because they get swallowed up fast. I put some deeper reviews over on the green board but I'll leave some comments here and some advice, for what it's worth.

VOG Reviews:

Diana. She was decent overall but in comparison to the women that came afterward, our session was pretty meh. I did find that I wasn't too interested in her body type (she's really thin and arguably has a teenager-like body) and that could have been a factor as well. She wasn't too keen on kissing but was game for everything else. If you book her, treat her right and take things slowly if you are on the bigger size because she is tiny and you can definitely feel it right away.

Angela. She was decently attractive with a softer body (not a super fit and toned body like some of the other girls) and definitely works to please. She did have a few restrictions that made it a bit more business-like and she definitely gave off that vibe, but it was an overall good experience. She was also super chill to talk to.

Tori. Tori really has a great look that you'll see a lot of in Montreal, which is quite alluring. She was really cool to talk to and the sex was great. DFK, great BBJ, multiple positions, etc. For butt guys, I highly recommend. If you see her available, book it!

Laura. Her reviews on the green board are definitely correct. She is the real deal and really connects with you. There is not much more to add here. If you see her available, book it!

Stacey. Legitimately, she might be one of the most beautiful girls I've ever had the pleasure of spending time with in this hobby. Some of the other reviews have also said this so I don't think it's just a preference thing. She wasn't as open with DFK unlike Tori and Laura - she was good to start with LFK and as we got into it, it eventually turned into DFK so maybe she needs time to get warmed up (I kinda liked this in retrospect). But everything else was great from beginning to end. For butt guys, I highly recommend. If you see her available, book it! I'm really biased because she and I have a shared background so we really connected well, but she was my favorite of this trip and is definitely a Top 3 experience of my entire hobby.

Random thoughts:

I booked at the Intercontinental Montreal and it was a great place to stay. It's a little run-down and pretty tacky but the price is good for that area and it doesn't require a keycard for the elevators. It feels great to just have girls knock on your door and not deal with any hassles.

I'm not sure if it's specific to Montreal or to outcalls, but I definitely felt like the girls were looking for you to drive when and how things would progress. I'm too used to K-agencies and the "guided" experience you get so it felt like a funny quirk to have to push it forward like in real life. Still the girls were game for most everything if you want to set some ground rules and would tell you what they don't like if they weren't. Just make sure to watch your time.

The girls usually have an alarm that sounds at 15 minutes before the end of a session so don't expect to get some last minute action. That's their cue to hit the shower and get ready to leave (understandable since they have to go to other clients).

I do like a bit of DFK so it was a bit disappointing that it wasn't a given since it makes any type of foreplay a bit more transactional.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report. I'm not sure if I have a strong preference between incall and outcall. It just depends on the mood. There is kind of relaxed, chill feeling having the girl come to you. However, you're right they want to get up and clean up before the hour is up.

Laura at Vogue is a legend. She's been around for awhile and continues to get great reviews. Tori Brennan is billed as a porn star. I think she has used the name Victoria Brennan in a few scenes. This would appear to her in this porn clip. Definitely a Montreal look. Nice tush also!

[URL]https://xhamster.com/videos/blow-me-pov-couch-surfing-blowjobs-xhPT32T[/URL]

As far as DFK in Montreal, that is one of my few criticisms of the MTL scene. It's very hit and miss. Be careful with the green board. Many times the early reviewers are test drivers for the agency. They usually post more favorable reviews and often try to represent that the girl is a DFKisser. They are either exaggerating or the agency as clued the girl in that the guy is a forum influencer. Many times these early reviewers will try to convince the poor blokes who don't receive DFK treatment that it is a YMMV scenario. In my mind, that usually diminished the value of the reviews. If the girl is not providing consistent service, her reviews are of little help to me.

Since I highly value kissing, I usually look for girls with some experience where they've established a well-earned reputation for DFK service.

I met xsweetsuga through SA. Initially I was a bit skeptical because I felt the pics were heavily photoshopped. She is the one in the pics, curvy for sure.

Met her at a bar in downtown. She is bubbly and can hold a good conversation. Spent an hour at the bar and headed back to Marriott downtown. The next hour and a half was a bliss. She gave an awesome BBJ and deep throated. The eye contact during BBJ was a killer, I can still remember those eyes.

She rode me to start with and tried a couple of different positions. Ended with a missionary. She was an absolute treat. She took a good pounding hence her pussy was sore. She didn't want to go for the second round and I didn't push her either. It was a good experience, I wish she stayed longer for the second round.

$500 and will definitely see her again if I'm in Montreal.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/9cf1062b-4b5f-4f17-bd37-75be41b2bde0[/URL]

[QUOTE=Whinger;2735449]Maeva, Vogue.

My trip got off to a disastrous start with Maeva, one of the worst sessions I've ever had in my life. Was originally supposed to see Sasha but she cancelled. The booker texted me a few pics of Maeva, and as she looked great I saw her instead for a late evening (11 pm) booking. Maeva is a slim, pretty blonde around 20, with perky be cup tits, who would normally be exactly my type, but the whole thing turned out to be an uncomfortable waste of money. The first thing Maeva said to me was "I'm so tired, I can't wait to get home", and things went downhill from there. Her English isn't good and my French is terrible so we had communication issues, but she clearly just did not want to be with me. Kissing was restricted to little closed-mouth pecks (which was perhaps for the good, as she had eaten something spicy and her breath was foul). She claimed to be extremely ticklish, so kissing or gently touching any part of her body saw her squirming out of reach; she did not allow DATY; and she was even reluctant to do BBBJ. As it was my first session in a while I didn't last long in FS, but there was no option for another shot. Within seconds of me coming Maeva was off me and into the shower, then out the room less than 40 minutes after she arrived.[/QUOTE]Weird, she must've really not liked you, I saw her earlier in April I think when I visited MTL and she was very enthusiastic (deep kisses, incredible BBBJ and very freely interacting). I speak French and am under 30 though so perhaps this contributed. I had a good time with her though her boobs had this awkward shape that I find unattractive (when they point downwards) and had some acne that I thought lowered her face value.

I love your review on Ashley and appreciate it, she is someone I've been meaning to visit / see for a while so its great to get some signal on her performance outside of the green board!

Does anyone have experience with these hotels and whether or not it's difficult to host an outcall:

Hotel Alt.

Hotel Bonaventure.

Hotel Monville.

Hotel Zero 1.

Hotel10.

Holiday Inn Centre-Ville.

Hotel Intercontinental.

Le Square Phillips Hotel.

[QUOTE=WryCooter;2748092]Does anyone have experience with these hotels and whether or not it's difficult to host an outcall:

Hotel Intercontinental.[/QUOTE]I haven't stayed at the others and I'd love to hear about their policies because I may want to try other hotels in the future, but the Intercontinental Montreal has no keycard for the elevator. I ordered outcall multiple times as per my review and all the ladies came directly to my room and knocked on my door when they arrived. You simply need to the give your hotel, the room, and the ladies will come to you.

Intercontinental was an alright hotel (maybe a bit tacky is design and outdated) but it served well and I had no issues while there. I would recommend it.

[QUOTE=WryCooter;2748092]Does anyone have experience with these hotels and whether or not it's difficult to host an outcall:

Hotel Alt.

Hotel Bonaventure.

Hotel Monville.

Hotel Zero 1.

Hotel10.

Holiday Inn Centre-Ville.

Hotel Intercontinental.

Le Square Phillips Hotel.[/QUOTE]I don't think to have any issue you just call the main reception that my friend will be coming mention time or something like don't think too much.

[QUOTE=WryCooter;2748092]Does anyone have experience with these hotels and whether or not it's difficult to host an outcall:


Le Square Phillips Hotel.[/QUOTE]I have stayed here many times. Their elevators are not key card controlled (at least until before the start of pandemic), so it is easy for the girl to come straight to your room. I like the very high ceilings in their rooms.

I did some research and found a thread on the green board. Bonaventure, Holiday Inn Centre-Ville, Monville, Renaissance, Le Square Phillips, Zero1, Novotel, Le Cantlie Suites, and Intercontinental as you and I confirmed def DO NOT require keycards to get into the elevators and up to the floors. Some might close access to the building from the street later in the evening though (starting as early as 9 pm) but it shouldn't be an issue as the reception people all know the score and will prob let them in if you let them know. It's just more convenient when I can focus on getting myself and the room ready while I wait for the outcall to show up. They're usually running late so waiting for them in the lobby is inconvenient. Meeting them at the lobby bar and getting some liquor in them isn't a bad idea though. Prob cheaper to make use of a hotel bar than go in search of an SAQ to get supplies.

[QUOTE=TheDerilious;2748174]I haven't stayed at the others and I'd love to hear about their policies because I may want to try other hotels in the future, but the Intercontinental Montreal has no keycard for the elevator. I ordered outcall multiple times as per my review and all the ladies came directly to my room and knocked on my door when they arrived. You simply need to the give your hotel, the room, and the ladies will come to you.

Intercontinental was an alright hotel (maybe a bit tacky is design and outdated) but it served well and I had no issues while there. I would recommend it.[/QUOTE]

This is 4 months late but I get a lot of advice from this site so I want to share.

If it helps, my preferences are speak English, GFE, no piercings, no major tattoos. I don't like to get into the details but ask me anything.

Victoria be, Vog, 250+100 to video, 1 h.

Perfect slim but curvy figure. Pretty face too. Her full name, Twitter and Instagram and face picture are on the website. She does porn too but was sweet when I saw her. Was up for dirty talk, was responsive to requests and aimed to please. FIV, DATY, etc was good. Would repeat.

Ruby. Velvet. 360/90 m.

Nice, thin body, pretty eastern euro face. I read she is into role playing but was not with me. I enjoyed myself anyway. She listened well and sucked well. Liked to talk too much but stopped when I asked. Very satisfying. Would repeat.

Holly, Euphoria 360/90 m.

Beautiful face, thin body but so nice. Very sweet and intelligent. Great BJ and teased me all over my body. Enjoyed talking with her. Would repeat.

Heaven Euphoria 400/90 m.

I had a good time with her a few years ago so I knew she had big fakes but she was fun. This time she had her nips and pus pierced and plastic surgery on her face. Just a heads up, had a good time but would not repeat.

Eleonore Vog 375/90 min.

Very pretty face, nice petite body. She did have a untrimmed patch of hair on the top of each thigh, not great but not a dealbreaker. Spoke French and was not confident with her English so it took her a while to warm up which was disappointing because I like talking so much. She showed up in a sundress and could have been a random hot chick on the street. Maybe the language barrier but there was no connection. Still enjoyable but not as much as the others. No repeat.

Maeva, Luxury 90 Min.

Beautiful face and wonderful body, looked like a young Stacey Kiebler. Ok English so the first half was boring for my tastes. Warmed up in bed and finished strong but recommend for French speakers or non-GFE fans. No repeat for me but maybe others.

Karina Vianna 800/90 m.

Took the chance and stepped up to an indy. Costs twice as much but a guaranteed good time. More gorgeous than her pictures and Instagram. Perfect body, fakes were pretty good but tan, soft skin, perfect ass, and brown eyes were so perfect. She has a bunch of costumes and toys but lingerie and heels plus her body were enough fantasy for me. Booking was simple over email but required $100 over PayPal. 20 minutes outside the city but a cheap bus ride is convenient.

One time there was a kid's party outside my Airbnb and the girl and I had to walk through it. I don't think anyone realized but who cares. Another time I was leaving a incall and a guy asked me for directions, I could tell he was going to the same place but I just smiled to myself.

A great trip. As always if you are polite the girls will work hard to make you happy.

Is Prostitution Escort Services legal in Montreal Canada.

[QUOTE=ChrisLong;2748663]Is Prostitution Escort Services legal in Montreal Canada.[/QUOTE]Yes. It would be rather ridiculous to think that all these agencies are openly advertising if doing so were illegal.

When you hire an escort, you are purchasing her time and companionship. That is legal.

Canada's national law, known as see-36, makes prostitution illegal, which is the exchange of sex for money. That is different than the purchase of time and companionship.

However, a provision of the law exempts from prosecution the seller of sex, and exempts from prosecution the assistants to the seller of sex who did services at her request, including security. That broad exemption likely covers escort services.

Most importantly, after the examination of the national law known as see-36, the police departments of Montreal, Toronto and Vancouver announced that they would view the exchange of sex for money as the lowest possible priority for arrests if such transaction involved consenting adults with no acts of force or coercion, and obviously no minors.

Although the police prioritization policy only covers those cities, it is useful to note that the one police ' prosecution activity against an agency in a suburb of Toronto resulted in a court decision that arguably held the new law to be unconstitutional. But the court chose to limit its ruling to the province of Ontario.

The bottom line is that Canada's much publicized Nordic Model has had little or no real consequence. You can book an independent or agency escort without law enforcement concerns. That having been said, Border Patrol in Canada are national police, and not everyone in Canada, including those who came from the much more conservative and religious prairie towns and villages liked the Great Fuck You that was extended by the police departments of Montreal, Toronto and Vancouver to the national government. And you have zero due process rights at the border. They can deny a foreigner entry into Canada for any damn reason they want. And they can look through your phone at will. So clean your electronics and don't have ongoing text messages and phone call histories with escort services when crossing the border. You don't have legal risks, but you have the practical risk of some asshole on a power trip denying you entry.

I would really appreciate any pointers you could give. Although I have been to the FKKs in Germany, I am new to the Montreal scene and would appreciate any help. I am looking for someone in the 35 - 45 age group. I don't like the term, but I fancy someone in the MILF / mature category. Been my fantasy for long. I was hoping to reach out to Lana Lush, but she has not posted any new posts here since 2019. I really liked Evelina Lowell and was wondering if any one has any reviews on her. Any other recommendations who is like Evelina (busty, natural, and thick) would be appreciated? Also, I am a non-Caucasian so I would have to check if folks would OK to see me. Thanks!

[QUOTE=ArtVande;2748780]I would really appreciate any pointers you could give. Although I have been to the FKKs in Germany, I am new to the Montreal scene and would appreciate any help. I am looking for someone in the 35 - 45 age group. I don't like the term, but I fancy someone in the MILF / mature category. Been my fantasy for long. I was hoping to reach out to Lana Lush, but she has not posted any new posts here since 2019. I really liked Evelina Lowell and was wondering if any one has any reviews on her. Any other recommendations who is like Evelina (busty, natural, and thick) would be appreciated? Also, I am a non-Caucasian so I would have to check if folks would OK to see me. Thanks![/QUOTE]Your best bet is to start at this MTL independent escort site below. I don't think the top agencies have very many MILF / mature escorts if at all. Of course Indys generally charge more, but that is the trade-off you're going to have to make.

[URL]https://www.indycompanion.com[/URL]

I would also consider a quick trip to Ottawa to meet up with Ruby Lust "the Red MILF". She's a Canadian MILF that gets quite a bit of positive buzz.

[URL]https://www.theredmilf.com/meet-ruby[/URL]

Vogue definitely has one, Julia, who they list as 35. Vicky is listed as 31 so I'll guess she's actually in your desired range as well.

[QUOTE=ArtVande;2748780]I would really appreciate any pointers you could give. Although I have been to the FKKs in Germany, I am new to the Montreal scene and would appreciate any help. I am looking for someone in the 35 - 45 age group. I don't like the term, but I fancy someone in the MILF / mature category. Been my fantasy for long. I was hoping to reach out to Lana Lush, but she has not posted any new posts here since 2019. I really liked Evelina Lowell and was wondering if any one has any reviews on her. Any other recommendations who is like Evelina (busty, natural, and thick) would be appreciated? Also, I am a non-Caucasian so I would have to check if folks would OK to see me. Thanks![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2748788]Your best bet is to start at this MTL independent escort site below. I don't think the top agencies have very many MILF / mature escorts if at all. Of course Indys generally charge more, but that is the trade-off you're going to have to make.

[URL]https://www.indycompanion.com[/URL]

I would also consider a quick trip to Ottawa to meet up with Ruby Lust "the Red MILF". She's a Canadian MILF that gets quite a bit of positive buzz.

[URL]https://www.theredmilf.com/meet-ruby[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks very much, WyattEarp. Appreciate it. Will definitely check out Ruby. I also liked a couple from indycompanion.

[QUOTE=WryCooter;2748840]Vogue definitely has one, Julia, who they list as 35. Vicky is listed as 31 so I'll guess she's actually in your desired range as well.[/QUOTE]Hey thanks! Julia and Vicky from Vogue look nice. Will check them out.

[QUOTE=ArtVande;2748847]Thanks very much, WyattEarp. Appreciate it. Will definitely check out Ruby. I also liked a couple from indycompanion.[/QUOTE]Yes,

Take a look at these three from Indycompanion. They are among the highest rated in Montreal. Some might be a few years younger than what you listed, but they have been around a long time and ages and pictures aren't always updated, and they have great reputations for longer, relaxed sessions.

[URL]https://gabriellegarniercompanion.ca/[/URL]

[URL]https://rosedelacourt.ch/[/URL]

[URL]https://sashajohansen.com/[/URL]

And I saw and loved this lady many years ago, so she would be in her 30's by now I think, although the almost unbelievable breasts make her seem forever young.

[URL]https://vogmtl.com/escorts/daryn/[/URL]

[QUOTE=ChrisLong;2748663]Is Prostitution Escort Services legal in Montreal Canada.[/QUOTE]In Canada it is illegal to offer money for sex. How that law is enforced and interpreted may vary.

Last time in Montreal was 1999. Sure lot has changed.

There were some great strip bars back then. A lot of fun with some cute gals.

Headed to Mexico with my Thai GF this month, and we're stopping for 5 nights in Montreal. Anyplace to go for just a show (nude preferable). Not looking for any action, just someplace to have a few overpriced beers and look at the girls. Don't want to get ripped off tho by two door guys presenting a large bill.

Appreciate any recommendations.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2748894]Yes,

Take a look at these three from Indycompanion. They are among the highest rated in Montreal. Some might be a few years younger than what you listed, but they have been around a long time and ages and pictures aren't always updated, and they have great reputations for longer, relaxed sessions.

[URL]https://gabriellegarniercompanion.ca/[/URL]

[URL]https://rosedelacourt.ch/[/URL]

[URL]https://sashajohansen.com/[/URL]

And I saw and loved this lady many years ago, so she would be in her 30's by now I think, although the almost unbelievable breasts make her seem forever young.

[URL]https://vogmtl.com/escorts/daryn/[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks very much, Mongerer88! But boy, these women are stunning. I am intimidated to even message them LOL.

[QUOTE=ArtVande;2748780]I would really appreciate any pointers you could give. Although I have been to the FKKs in Germany, I am new to the Montreal scene and would appreciate any help. I am looking for someone in the 35 - 45 age group. I don't like the term, but I fancy someone in the MILF / mature category. Been my fantasy for long. I was hoping to reach out to Lana Lush, but she has not posted any new posts here since 2019. I really liked Evelina Lowell and was wondering if any one has any reviews on her. Any other recommendations who is like Evelina (busty, natural, and thick) would be appreciated? Also, I am a non-Caucasian so I would have to check if folks would OK to see me. Thanks![/QUOTE]I have met these four providers and definitely recommend meeting them.

[URL]https://rosedelacourt.ch/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.lavieenaprilrose.com/[/URL]

[URL]https://norabordeleau.com/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.christinadimilano.com/[/URL]

I have seen both Rose and April several times. I have seen Nora and Christina once, but would love to meet again.

Rose and Nora are in their mid to late twenties, but are mature beyond there age. Both qualify for your busty, natural and thick request. Nora lives and studies in Montreal and is usually available. Rose lives in Winnipeg and tours quite often. She may be difficult to book in Montreal, but it never hurts to ask!

April is in her early thirties. I'm not sure if she would qualify as thick. She is short, 5 feet tall, but has nice natural breasts and a big round ass for her size.

Christina is in her mid to late thirties. I would say she is between thick and petite, but certainly falls into the "MILF" category.

These three ladies are on my to do list. I hope to meet them sometime.

[URL]https://www.ledahaze.com/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.missjenniferlove.com/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.roxannevalois.com/[/URL]

Leda is in her mid thirties and is busty, natural, and thick.

Jennifer is in her early forties.

Roxanne is in her early forties. She is slim and petite, but natural and very fit.

[QUOTE=Stabbin36;2749212]I have met these four providers and definitely recommend meeting them.

[URL]https://rosedelacourt.ch/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.lavieenaprilrose.com/[/URL]

[URL]https://norabordeleau.com/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.christinadimilano.com/[/URL]

I have seen both Rose and April several times. I have seen Nora and Christina once, but would love to meet again.

Rose and Nora are in their mid to late twenties, but are mature beyond there age. Both qualify for your busty, natural and thick request. Nora lives and studies in Montreal and is usually available. Rose lives in Winnipeg and tours quite often. She may be difficult to book in Montreal, but it never hurts to ask!

April is in her early thirties. I'm not sure if she would qualify as thick. She is short, 5 feet tall, but has nice natural breasts and a big round ass for her size.

Christina is in her mid to late thirties. I would say she is between thick and petite, but certainly falls into the "MILF" category.

These three ladies are on my to do list. I hope to meet them sometime.

[URL]https://www.ledahaze.com/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.missjenniferlove.com/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.roxannevalois.com/[/URL]

Leda is in her mid thirties and is busty, natural, and thick.

Jennifer is in her early forties.

Roxanne is in her early forties. She is slim and petite, but natural and very fit.[/QUOTE]Great recommendations.

April Rose is my favorite in Montreal. I just never think of her as being in her 30's since I started seeing her many years ago and she looks younger than her age.

As to his other question as to whether they see non-caucasians, he has nothing to worry about.

The Indy Companions are all left-wingers to the max. I honestly doubt they would let a lady join if she discriminated.

That part is of course good. The bad part is that online you have to be kind of careful what you say.

April Rose and Gabrielle Garnier are good businesswomen, and although they may have left-wing opinions, they tend to keep politics to themselves. So they aren't like what I am going to mention below.

Many of the others do tweets and posts full of Social Justice type stuff. If you don't agree with all of that, just be cognizant not to discuss politics during the session.

Same with body issues. Indy Companions has ladies ranging from stick figures to fat chicks.

But god don't use the term fat chick, even to the stick figures. Some guy on the local board said that Indy Companions has too many fat chicks and I thought they were going to go Kill Bill and take him out.

They don't understand that older people simply talk like that. A couple of decades ago, I regularly saw one escort who had a lot of doubles partners, and she asked me once if I had seen the pictures of one of them (who I also saw regularly) and if I noticed that the other lady's new pictures made it appear that she is now a heifer.

[QUOTE=Stabbin36;2749212]I have met these four providers and definitely recommend meeting them.
...
[/QUOTE]Wow, thanks for the detailed info. Really appreciate it. Now to reach out to them and hope someone is willing to see me LOL.

[QUOTE=Stabbin36;2749212][URL]https://rosedelacourt.ch/[/URL]

I have seen both Rose and April several times. I have seen Nora and Christina once, but would love to meet again.

Rose and Nora are in their mid to late twenties, but are mature beyond there age. Both qualify for your busty, natural and thick request. Nora lives and studies in Montreal and is usually available. Rose lives in Winnipeg and tours quite often. She may be difficult to book in Montreal, but it never hurts to ask![/QUOTE]Rose is very pretty. I love her smile. She has a very athletic, toned workout body which she is very candid about. She would warn guys who liked slim girls on her website. For my old man aestetic, I only wish she stopped adding more tattoos a few years ago.

I was surprised Rose is basing herself out of Winnipeg these days, but she tours so much it probably doesn't matter much. (Rose Delacourt was previously Montreal-based and is very popular.).

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2748935]In Canada it is illegal to offer money for sex. How that law is enforced and interpreted may vary.[/QUOTE]Yes, this is correct. I think for newbies we need to assure them the law is not enforced with escorts and massage parlors in Montreal or Toronto. I don't think it's enforced in other Canadian cities either.

As a general rule, don't pursue girls on the streets. Keep your mongering in private. I don't know of a MTL streetwalking scene, but a few guys like this action.

I was thinking of going Nov 20 to 27th to Montreal, am very experienced but first time to Montreal.

Usually in USA I pay 400 to 600 in SA and other places the going market rate.

I am thinking of doing only outcalls to my hotel.

Hotels I was thinking of are Doubletree, Renaissance, Vogue and.

[URL]http://www.squarephillips.com/fr/chambres-et-suites/1-studios.html[/URL]

[URL]https://www.hotelfaubourgmontreal.com/rooms/one-queen-suite-with-balcony[/URL]

[URL]https://www.hotelfaubourgmontreal.com/rooms/studio-two-queen-bed[/URL]

Thinking of using Vogue and [URL]https://www.escortsensation.ca[/URL] and [URL]https://escortsluxury.agency[/URL] and XO and Euphoria.

Worst case if they cancel I can try a quick incall with anyone available.

So doing the outcall at 4 for about 2 and half hours.

Is this a good idea for a trip? I hate cold hence doing the outcalls but in may when I go will do both incall and outcall as the weather will be better.

Thanks in advance.

Plan looks fine to me.

I prefer outcall personally in a location where the ladies do not charge extra for it.

The Doubletree is very central and connected to a mall that has decent restaurants, so you can stay indoors for a lot of things. I usually stay there.

But you might want to consider a coat and gloves and embracing the cold. It won't be that cold in November and Montreal is a great city to explore on foot, including outdoor hiking.

[QUOTE=NapataJohn;2749354]I was thinking of going Nov 20 to 27th to Montreal, am very experienced but first time to Montreal.

Usually in USA I pay 400 to 600 in SA and other places the going market rate.

I am thinking of doing only outcalls to my hotel.

Hotels I was thinking of are Doubletree, Renaissance, Vogue and.

[URL]http://www.squarephillips.com/fr/chambres-et-suites/1-studios.html[/URL]

[URL]https://www.hotelfaubourgmontreal.com/rooms/one-queen-suite-with-balcony[/URL]

[URL]https://www.hotelfaubourgmontreal.com/rooms/studio-two-queen-bed[/URL]

Thinking of using Vogue and [URL]https://www.escortsensation.ca[/URL] and [URL]https://escortsluxury.agency[/URL] and XO and Euphoria.

Worst case if they cancel I can try a quick incall with anyone available.

So doing the outcall at 4 for about 2 and half hours.

Is this a good idea for a trip? I hate cold hence doing the outcalls but in may when I go will do both incall and outcall as the weather will be better.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2749444]Plan looks fine to me.
But you might want to consider a coat and gloves and embracing the cold. [/QUOTE]Thanks sure I will have the coat and gloves for sure!!

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2749444]Plan looks fine to me.

But you might want to consider a coat and gloves and embracing the cold. It won't be that cold in November and Montreal is a great city to explore on foot, including outdoor hiking.[/QUOTE]Reminds me of the first time I went to Montreal in Oct of 2019. I'm from Boston and I can handle some cold and that weekend it was forecasted to be 30 degrees F which a coat can handle with layers. Nope, Canadian cold feels like 10 degrees F colder. But I agree with Mongerer88 just get a nice warm coat, gloves, hat, and embrace that cold. I was amazed at the Montreal girls at the clubs wearing barely anything and handling the cold like it a was nice spring day haha.

I am heading up in 2 weeks, do any agencies offer duos? I looked (not hard enough) I saw lepenthouse has duos, but last time I went there in 2019 every girl did CBJ. I've grown accustomed to and spoiled by the BBBJ at agencies.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2748894]Yes,

Take a look at these three from Indycompanion. They are among the highest rated in Montreal. Some might be a few years younger than what you listed, but they have been around a long time and ages and pictures aren't always updated, and they have great reputations for longer, relaxed sessions.

[URL]https://gabriellegarniercompanion.ca/[/URL]

[URL]https://rosedelacourt.ch/[/URL]

[URL]https://sashajohansen.com/[/URL]

And I saw and loved this lady many years ago, so she would be in her 30's by now I think, although the almost unbelievable breasts make her seem forever young.

[URL]https://vogmtl.com/escorts/daryn/[/URL][/QUOTE]I haven't seen Sasha or Rose but I can definitely tell you about Gabrielle.

I have been seeing Gabrielle for close to 5 years now.

In short she is the girl friend everyone dreams about, but without all the hassles.

This lady in my eyes is absolutely gorgeous and one of the nicest, most thoughtful women I have ever met.

She always looks like she just stepped out of a fashion magazine. Her outfits are amazing like her lingerie, she is not your wild PSE type but a sensual magical girlfriend experience and going out with her for dinner or lunch is the ultimate.

She offers all the GFE items and talking and being with her is as close as you can get to a real girlfriend.

I think if I was anywhere near her age I would never let this lady go as it is I will just keep seeing her as long as she is available.

Mongerer 88 I can text the agencies on whatsapp using my USA phone?

[QUOTE=NapataJohn;2749763]Mongerer 88 I can text the agencies on whatsapp using my USA phone?[/QUOTE]Yes, definitely.

It is basically the 51st state.

It is definitely worth converting currency and paying in Canadian, since you get a 25 percent discount, excluding the exchange fees.

[QUOTE=Hacsek;2749734]I haven't seen Sasha or Rose but I can definitely tell you about Gabrielle.

I have been seeing Gabrielle for close to 5 years now.

In short she is the girl friend everyone dreams about, but without all the hassles.

This lady in my eyes is absolutely gorgeous and one of the nicest, most thoughtful women I have ever met.

She always looks like she just stepped out of a fashion magazine. Her outfits are amazing like her lingerie, she is not your wild PSE type but a sensual magical girlfriend experience and going out with her for dinner or lunch is the ultimate.

She offers all the GFE items and talking and being with her is as close as you can get to a real girlfriend.

I think if I was anywhere near her age I would never let this lady go as it is I will just keep seeing her as long as she is available.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the detailed review, Hacsek! Appreciate it. I would love to see her but since I am just starting out she wants either a reference or an active board handle. What constitutes an active board handle? I only hope someone would see me and serve a reference for future meet ups LOL.

[QUOTE=ArtVande;2749793]Thanks for the detailed review, Hacsek! Appreciate it. I would love to see her but since I am just starting out she wants either a reference or an active board handle. What constitutes an active board handle? I only hope someone would see me and serve a reference for future meet ups LOL.[/QUOTE]I believe she is talking about the local green board Merb.

If you have an active handle there she can review your posts and decide if based on your comments and how you conduct yourself, you are someone she would be comfortable seeing.

Many posters on that board don't realize that acting like a total jerk is not going to win them any favours with the ladies as they have their own network and do discuss who to see and not see.

She is an amazing lady and I feel lucky to have found her.

I do see others sometimes but for me she is in a league of her own.

[QUOTE=ArtVande;2749793]What constitutes an active board handle? LOL.[/QUOTE]She wants your board name from the other forum, to look at what you posted.

Best Regards
Smuler

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2749322]Great recommendations.

April Rose is my favorite in Montreal. I just never think of her as being in her 30's since I started seeing her many years ago and she looks younger than her age.

As to his other question as to whether they see non-caucasians, he has nothing to worry about.

The Indy Companions are all left-wingers to the max. I honestly doubt they would let a lady join if she discriminated.

That part is of course good. The bad part is that online you have to be kind of careful what you say.

April Rose and Gabrielle Garnier are good businesswomen, and although they may have left-wing opinions, they tend to keep politics to themselves. So they aren't like what I am going to mention below.

Many of the others do tweets and posts full of Social Justice type stuff. If you don't agree with all of that, just be cognizant not to discuss politics during the session.

Same with body issues. Indy Companions has ladies ranging from stick figures to fat chicks.

But god don't use the term fat chick, even to the stick figures. Some guy on the local board said that Indy Companions has too many fat chicks and I thought they were going to go Kill Bill and take him out.

They don't understand that older people simply talk like that. A couple of decades ago, I regularly saw one escort who had a lot of doubles partners, and she asked me once if I had seen the pictures of one of them (who I also saw regularly) and if I noticed that the other lady's new pictures made it appear that she is now a heifer.[/QUOTE]Thanks very much for the detailed info, Mongerer88! I really appreciate it. Good to know that ladies would see me, but you mentioned you have to be kind of careful what you say, is it OK to provide your name and ID if the ladies ask? What other info would constitute as being not safe? Would really appreciate your input here.

[QUOTE=ArtVande;2749812]Thanks very much for the detailed info, Mongerer88! I really appreciate it. Good to know that ladies would see me, but you mentioned you have to be kind of careful what you say, is it OK to provide your name and ID if the ladies ask? What other info would constitute as being not safe? Would really appreciate your input here.[/QUOTE]You are safe giving them whatever screening information they want.

I was making a lighthearted comment.

Some of them participate in the local board.

When guys make politically incorrect comments online, and Boy Talk, as Melania Trump called it, some of them get angry. It isn't as bad as it used to be, since the one that did that the most has left the business.

Hopefully that doesn't show up in a session, just keep in mind that a not insignificant number of them are the rather left of center feminist types. But just in case, I would avoid discussing politics during the session if you don't agree with that ideology.

I just came back from Montreal and had an awesome time. Fall is beautiful over there.

Not all the agency girls especially the highly rated ones do outcalls. In fact I did all incalls without a single outcall. Call the agencies early in the morning around 10 am to book the sessions for the day. Good girls get fully booked by noon. In this way, you can have good pickings.

I stayed at Doubletree. It is a nice hotel with no noise to catch some nice Zs. However, the elevator requires key card to go up to the floors. So let agency know this so that you can go to the lobby and receive the girl.

Euphoria requires you to use real phone. No text apps or VOIP like google voice or textnow. So make sure that your US phone has roaming in Canada or carry an unlocked GSM phone and buy a Canadian SIM.

Girls are amazing and way better than you are used to in the US. And don't worry if the profile says little or no English but only French, you guys will still manage to communicate and they will still suck and fuck you very well. All in all, enjoy and have a nice time.

[QUOTE=NapataJohn;2749354]I was thinking of going Nov 20 to 27th to Montreal, am very experienced but first time to Montreal.

Usually in USA I pay 400 to 600 in SA and other places the going market rate.

I am thinking of doing only outcalls to my hotel.

Hotels I was thinking of are Doubletree, Renaissance, Vogue and.

[URL]http://www.squarephillips.com/fr/chambres-et-suites/1-studios.html[/URL]

[URL]https://www.hotelfaubourgmontreal.com/rooms/one-queen-suite-with-balcony[/URL]

[URL]https://www.hotelfaubourgmontreal.com/rooms/studio-two-queen-bed[/URL]

Thinking of using Vogue and [URL]https://www.escortsensation.ca[/URL] and [URL]https://escortsluxury.agency[/URL] and XO and Euphoria.

Worst case if they cancel I can try a quick incall with anyone available.

So doing the outcall at 4 for about 2 and half hours.

Is this a good idea for a trip? I hate cold hence doing the outcalls but in may when I go will do both incall and outcall as the weather will be better.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Razgrizace00;2749499]I am heading up in 2 weeks, do any agencies offer duos? I looked (not hard enough) I saw lepenthouse has duos, but last time I went there in 2019 every girl did CBJ. I've grown accustomed to and spoiled by the BBBJ at agencies.[/QUOTE]XO or Euphoria do not advertise duo but they do it often. You become instantly privilege over other client as the double booking is easier for them. Careful that many only do incalls.

A duo with Kate of XO or Heaven of Euphoria is a sure winner no matter who is the other girl. Just ask booker that she bring a friend.

[QUOTE=DirkMingInt;2749846]I just came back from Montreal and had an awesome time. Fall is beautiful over there..[/QUOTE]Thanks that was awesome report. I will get the Canada plan and add it for a month so that I can use my phone there.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2749819] It isn't as bad as it used to be, since the one that did that the most has left the business[/QUOTE]Amber Rumples?

Best Regards
Smuler

[QUOTE=Smuler;2750128]Amber Rumples?

Best Regards
Smuler[/QUOTE]Yes, I have no doubt she would have bit my dick off if I had ever booked a session with her.

I don't think any of the other Indy Companions ladies are anything like her, thank god.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2749976]XO or Euphoria do not advertise duo but they do it often. You become instantly privilege over other client as the double booking is easier for them. Careful that many only do incalls.

A duo with Kate of XO or Heaven of Euphoria is a sure winner no matter who is the other girl. Just ask booker that she bring a friend.[/QUOTE]I only do incalls when I am up in Montreal. Thanks for the info Jali!

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2750133]Yes, I have no doubt she would have bit my dick off if I had ever booked a session with her.

I don't think any of the other Indy Companions ladies are anything like her, thank god.[/QUOTE]Her nasty sister is on there too, so yes, there is another one LOL.

Best Regards
Smuler

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2629501]You should try Montreal local board if live in Montreal. [URL]https://merb.cc[/URL].

For many reason I will not debate here there is many SP that do not see people of color. If you are, disclose it to the booker.

Over the years I heard of many girl complaining of Indian and other ethnicity (very often physicians or highly rank paid engineer) being total ass hole and very disrespectful to them. They said they feel because they pay they are entitled to do anything and the ***** has to 'serve' them. If you know what I mean. This is probably a culture issue. Again I will not debate here but the role of women in society is still, unfortunately, not the same everywhere.

Just disclose it to the booker and ask him to trust you. That you will be a total gentlemen.

One of the most prolific reviewer on Merb (a guy I met a few time) is also Indian and he is very popular with the SP's. So no worry for you. Just disclose it and be respectful. You will have some fucking amazing time you'll see.[/QUOTE]As I posted earlier asking if SPs would be OK to see people of color in Montreal, this is what I was worried. I totally understand why some SPs have reservations seeing PoCs, but I wanted to ask specifically what should I disclose for indies to gain trust, besides mentioning I am a person of color, flying in from the US and have a US passport. Of course, I am respectful, client, hygienic and all the other good stuff.

Should I just message a few indies and take my chances? If I just see one, I am hoping for future visits that she would serve as a reference.

[QUOTE=GreenRabit;2629846]Thanks for the solid advise. It sounds very logical to disclose upfront and save everyone's time.[/QUOTE]I guess if you tell them you are well travelled and have been abroad for a while it would carry weight.

I am surprised that the booker would ask all these details.

[QUOTE=Smuler;2750128]Amber Rumples?

Best Regards
Smuler[/QUOTE]She was thrown out of Indy Companions and moved to Ottawa and actually was offering glory hole sessions for a while.

Was known as the cat lady. Meow.

One nasty lady and not that great looking either I had a few run ins with her on that board. Great when a 20 something knows everything and calls everyone who disagrees with her ignorant fools.

There was a friend of hers almost as nasty who is still with Indy Companions but she doesn't advertise or post anymore on the board has changed her name 3-4 times.

There are however quite a few amazing women who are part of Indy Companions you just have to know which ones.

[QUOTE=Hacsek;2750997]She was thrown out of Indy Companions and moved to Ottawa and actually was offering glory hole sessions for a while.
[/QUOTE]That's ironic, during the heyday of the parties, she basically said that she was the "voice of the Indy's ".

We were gonna arrange a death match between her and Hungry LOL

Best Regards
Smuler

[QUOTE=ArtVande;2750706]Should I just message a few indies and take my chances? If I just see one, I am hoping for future visits that she would serve as a reference.[/QUOTE][URL]https://montrealxxxtase.com/[/URL] if you click on each lady link and look at where it says other:

[QUOTE=Smuler;2751188]That's ironic, during the heyday of the parties, she basically said that she was the "voice of the Indy's ".

We were gonna arrange a death match between her and Hungry LOL

Best Regards
Smuler[/QUOTE]She may have won she was huge LOL. Was called Amber Meow in Ottawa, don't know if she is still around, wouldn't go near her anyways.

After a lot of research and screening, I finally got to see an indy here. Being non-Caucasian I am grateful an indy saw me, but the experience has not been great. The reviews on the Montreal green board about this provider were great. Folks mentioned she did DFK, CIM, and BBBJ. But all I got was LFK, CBJ and a HJ. I know like everything in life, ymmv. But before folks say it depends on your hygiene, trust me I am pretty clean. I showered and throughly mouthwash before reaching the incall location and again after reaching I shower and mouthwash. If anything, found the SP not that clean tbh.

I would appreciate any comments from folks who had similar experiences. And any pointers on how to book in the future.

[QUOTE=Artvand1;2762164]After a lot of research and screening, I finally got to see an indy here. Being non-Caucasian I am grateful an indy saw me, but the experience has not been great. The reviews on the Montreal green board about this provider were great. Folks mentioned she did DFK, CIM, and BBBJ. But all I got was LFK, CBJ and a HJ. I know like everything in life, ymmv. But before folks say it depends on your hygiene, trust me I am pretty clean. I showered and throughly mouthwash before reaching the incall location and again after reaching I shower and mouthwash. If anything, found the SP not that clean tbh.[/QUOTE]First, you should really tell us who she was. By sharing with the community, we can avoid the mistake of booking her.

Second, beware of the green board. It requires some knowledge as to who is prone to shill and who is an honest reviewer. The green board moderators give the shills a lot a leeway especially if it is an indy or an agency that advertises on the platform. They also tend to put their thumb on the scale. A review like yours above might be edited if it was posted there.

If we know which Indy you met, I'm sure some of us would be able to detect if you were the prey of shills or the woman was just having an off day.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2762634]First, you should really tell us who she was. By sharing with the community, we can avoid the mistake of booking her.

Second, beware of the green board. It requires some knowledge as to who is prone to shill and who is an honest reviewer. The green board moderators give the shills a lot a leeway especially if it is an indy or an agency that advertises on the platform. They also tend to put their thumb on the scale. A review like yours above might be edited if it was posted there.

If we know which Indy you met, I'm sure some of us would be able to detect if you were the prey of shills or the woman was just having an off day.[/QUOTE]Thanks very much for your reply, WyattEarp! I really appreciate it. I did not mention her name because I want to be in her good books as I plan to use her as a reference. Also I did not mention because there is another thread on the green board where non-Caucasian folks posted similar experience where they mention they were not given the full GFE services that others got. And there too the OP said he was clean and he had tried several agency girls and indies and all did not get the full GFE service. I think he quit now LOL. These are all very well reviewed indies and have very high reputation in the community. And few non-Caucasian folks words may not be trusted.

I do not want to say they have some bias or anything like that. I understand some indies might have some inhibitions. Some feel even gross too, but it would be nice to know about folks who might give the full service others have got. And my mission is to find them LOL Hopefully I can. Appreciate any inputs on how to find them. Also I do not ask anything specific I just got what the SP was willing to give.

Hi,

Had couple of interesting experiences in Montreal last week. Tried independents but no one responded. So tried 2 agencies. 1) Escort sensation: Easy booking, Joe was friendly. But then flaked last min. Offered a discount and another alternative I did not like so passed. 2nd) VOG was very easy. Called for bkng. Showed up 10 minutes early too. Was ok exp. Not bad or grt. A bit mechanical and fake. No DFK etc. I think if you are there for a day only, it is hrd to book. Overall a disappointment a little as I heard grt things, but experience was just ok. Maybe got unlucky with short stay.

[QUOTE=MattBrown;2763279]Hi,

Had couple of interesting experiences in Montreal last week. Tried independents but no one responded. So tried 2 agencies. 1) Escort sensation: Easy booking, Joe was friendly. But then flaked last min. Offered a discount and another alternative I did not like so passed. 2nd) VOG was very easy. Called for bkng. Showed up 10 minutes early too. Was ok exp. Not bad or grt. A bit mechanical and fake. No DFK etc. I think if you are there for a day only, it is hrd to book. Overall a disappointment a little as I heard grt things, but experience was just ok. Maybe got unlucky with short stay.[/QUOTE]You got unlucky with Vog as they had a good reputation. But you should have tried Euphoria or XO.

After many months I saw a girl last week. Bianka of XO. My freeking god is she great! She's been on and off for quite a few years now. Still amazing!

[QUOTE=MattBrown;2763279]Hi,

Had couple of interesting experiences in Montreal last week. Tried independents but no one responded. So tried 2 agencies. 1) Escort sensation: Easy booking, Joe was friendly. But then flaked last min. Offered a discount and another alternative I did not like so passed. 2nd) VOG was very easy. Called for bkng. Showed up 10 minutes early too. Was ok exp. Not bad or grt. A bit mechanical and fake. No DFK etc. I think if you are there for a day only, it is hrd to book. Overall a disappointment a little as I heard grt things, but experience was just ok. Maybe got unlucky with short stay.[/QUOTE]Absolutely MB. If you are showing up just 1 day and on this day of, rather than prep the night before, you are trying to book. It's not always easy.

[QUOTE=Stabbin36;2749212]I have met these four providers and definitely recommend meeting them.



[URL]https://www.lavieenaprilrose.com/[/URL]


April is in her early thirties. I'm not sure if she would qualify as thick. She is short, 5 feet tall, but has nice natural breasts and a big round ass for her size.


[/QUOTE]At only 5', I think she is thick in my book. Looked at her gallery and her photos are heavily post processed, edges and curves are accented / cleaned up. Similar to many Xo photos.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2749444]Plan looks fine to me.

I prefer outcall personally in a location where the ladies do not charge extra for it.

The Doubletree is very central and connected to a mall that has decent restaurants, so you can stay indoors for a lot of things. I usually stay there.

But you might want to consider a coat and gloves and embracing the cold. It won't be that cold in November and Montreal is a great city to explore on foot, including outdoor hiking.[/QUOTE]I'd say above any gloves, snow shoes by Nov, no sneakers. Half the day can be dreary gray skies, the sun is gone if not, by 3-4 pm anyway, and snow showers can happen any hour, any day. Accumulation or not.

I am not surprised by what you experienced. I too have been denied service in the past by providers who only take Caucasians.

Some on here might dispute that there is any bias but it is the unfortunate truth. You can't win them all. I would start my search by contacting the provider beforehand if they have any restrictions. Go from there and good luck. Unfortunately, I haven't been back in Montreal for a while. Sort of stuck in a place where getting service is not an issue. Haha.

[QUOTE=Artvand1;2762164]After a lot of research and screening, I finally got to see an indy here. Being non-Caucasian I am grateful an indy saw me, but the experience has not been great. The reviews on the Montreal green board about this provider were great. Folks mentioned she did DFK, CIM, and BBBJ. But all I got was LFK, CBJ and a HJ. I know like everything in life, ymmv. But before folks say it depends on your hygiene, trust me I am pretty clean. I showered and throughly mouthwash before reaching the incall location and again after reaching I shower and mouthwash. If anything, found the SP not that clean tbh.

I would appreciate any comments from folks who had similar experiences. And any pointers on how to book in the future.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Danibbler;2765756]I am not surprised by what you experienced. I too have been denied service in the past by providers who only take Caucasians.

Some on here might dispute that there is any bias but it is the unfortunate truth. You can't win them all. I would start my search by contacting the provider beforehand if they have any restrictions. Go from there and good luck. Unfortunately, I haven't been back in Montreal for a while. Sort of stuck in a place where getting service is not an issue. Haha.[/QUOTE]Thanks very much for the suggestions, Danibbler! Much appreciated. Totally agree, can't win them all. When I reach out to SPs, I infact mention my race and occupation. I also mention that I am happy to pay for a deposit. I think that's why they agreed to see me, but at the incall location the service hasn't been great as other reviews say. I did find two ladies in an FKK in Germany who were absolutely phenomenal. The issue is I can only travel every so often from the States given the time it takes. But if everything else fails here would have to resort to only that. Would love to hear the place where you are getting service without issues. I understand if you wish to keep it secret. Thanks again!

[QUOTE=Kabukicho;2765331]At only 5', I think she is thick in my book. Looked at her gallery and her photos are heavily post processed, edges and curves are accented / cleaned up. Similar to many Xo photos.[/QUOTE]I'd say April is borderline thick. She's been around awhile and is not going to be slender like some of the youngins at the agencies.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2766904]I'd say April is borderline thick. She's been around awhile and is not going to be slender like some of the youngins at the agencies.[/QUOTE]Agreed. Yet the sessions I had with her were fantastic. She is very cool down to earth girl. Really like her.

My 2 cents.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2767127]Agreed. Yet the sessions I had with her were fantastic. She is very cool down to earth girl. Really like her.

My 2 cents.[/QUOTE]Yes, I have seen her many times, and I have an appointment who see her again very soon.

She has an incredible number and variety of service offerings. That is really important to me.

A great fuck, a hard worker who aims to please, and just a really great person.

If someone books a session with her, they will leave happy.

[URL]https://www.aprilkillian.com/[/URL]

I would try Thailand or the Philippines if I were you. Or, stick with Germany.

[QUOTE=Artvand1;2766018]The issue is I can only travel every so often from the States given the time it takes. But if everything else fails here would have to resort to only that. Would love to hear the place where you are getting service without issues. I understand if you wish to keep it secret. Thanks again![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Artvand1;2766018]Thanks very much for the suggestions, Danibbler! Much appreciated. Totally agree, can't win them all. When I reach out to SPs, I infact mention my race and occupation. I also mention that I am happy to pay for a deposit. I think that's why they agreed to see me, but at the incall location the service hasn't been great as other reviews say. I did find two ladies in an FKK in Germany who were absolutely phenomenal. The issue is I can only travel every so often from the States given the time it takes. But if everything else fails here would have to resort to only that. Would love to hear the place where you are getting service without issues. I understand if you wish to keep it secret. Thanks again![/QUOTE]If you mean internationally I would highly suggest Barcelona and / or Lisbon.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2769933]If you mean internationally I would highly suggest Barcelona and / or Lisbon.[/QUOTE]Thanks very much, Jalimon2 and Danibbler for the suggestions! Much appreciated. Looks like Thailand is a no-go for me based on the reports haha. I gather that the Indians have ruined the reputation for all brown guys there LOL.

Lisbon and Barcelona seems like it has not been ruined yet LOL, so I think I will give those places a try. Thanks guys!

[QUOTE=Artvand1;2770018]Thanks very much, Jalimon2 and Danibbler for the suggestions! Much appreciated. Looks like Thailand is a no-go for me based on the reports haha. I gather that the Indians have ruined the reputation for all brown guys there LOL.

Lisbon and Barcelona seems like it has not been ruined yet LOL, so I think I will give those places a try. Thanks guys![/QUOTE]There is a guy on Merb with handle name is Patron who has written very detailed review about these 2 cities that he knows very well.

[QUOTE=Artvand1;2770018] Lisbon and Barcelona seems like it has not been ruined yet LOL, so I think I will give those places a try. Thanks guys![/QUOTE]Germany (and Austria) are fantastic. Barcelona is fun, but not as good, IMO. Lisbon is not as good.

Has anyone seen her lately? I hear great things about her, but she does not seem to be on the schedule anymore?

LOL, over at the green board, the classic year end votes for best girls, agencies, etc.

Now you're only allowed to vote for those that advertise on the site. So, XO, Perhaps the biggest agency in Montreal, can't be voted for. What a joke that place is.

I wish this place was more active, so that a proper poll could be conducted.

[QUOTE=DethManRulz;2774770]LOL, over at the green board, the classic year end votes for best girls, agencies, etc.

Now you're only allowed to vote for those that advertise on the site. So, XO, Perhaps the biggest agency in Montreal, can't be voted for. What a joke that place is.

I wish this place was more active, so that a proper poll could be conducted.[/QUOTE]Agree, I get petty vibes from this stance, might have been some fallout between xo and green.

[QUOTE=Kabukicho;2774793]Agree, I get petty vibes from this stance, might have been some fallout between xo and green.[/QUOTE]I saw one or two posts get deleted that were asking for "other" instead of naming a specific non-advertiser.

That board knows they are the only real game in town so they can get however crazy they want with moderation.

[QUOTE=Kabukicho;2774793]Agree, I get petty vibes from this stance, might have been some fallout between xo and green.[/QUOTE]Didn't Jalimon or someone mention some fallout recently? I drop in once in a every month or so to read reviews. I couldn't find any XO girls' reviews. Seems crazy since XO has been one of the top MTL agencies for several years.

Most of us know the green board has it's odd peculiarities and it seems the site owners allow the moderators to perpetuate them. The mods are far too meddlesome and edit or delete fairly innocuous comments at their whim. It's now kind of fun to watch the mods there try to fuck with one of their former sponsors. I always thought XO, Euphoria and Vogue didn't need the green board to thrive.

[QUOTE=DethManRulz;2774770]LOL, over at the green board, the classic year end votes for best girls, agencies, etc.

Now you're only allowed to vote for those that advertise on the site. So, XO, Perhaps the biggest agency in Montreal, can't be voted for. What a joke that place is.

I wish this place was more active, so that a proper poll could be conducted.[/QUOTE]XO is the biggest? I'm surprised. I like VOG, personally. They seem to have more variety and options daily.

[QUOTE=LurkerZ;2772267]Germany (and Austria) are fantastic. Barcelona is fun, but not as good, IMO. Lisbon is not as good.[/QUOTE]Ah, thanks very much! Yeah, FKKs in Germany is my go to place. Will checkout Austria as I love to sightsee places in.

Was in Montreal for work and decided to try one last time. So I booked two indies and both cancelled the last minute. One ghosted and never returned the deposit. Lesson learnt LOL. Had time to kill so decided to call agency girls. But boy, I was surprised. The service was awesome. First girl was Ashley from Sensation and second was Maria from Euphoria. Both were nice to talk to and had great personalities. They were very accommodating and provided standard GFE service. I will probably stick with them when I visit Montreal next. Thank you Ashely and Maria.

I really appreciate all the help and input from members here.

[QUOTE=JoeThighsMan;2774874]XO is the biggest? I'm surprised. I like VOG, personally. They seem to have more variety and options daily.[/QUOTE]Well the big three are XO, Euphoria, and VOG.

[QUOTE=DethManRulz;2774881]Well the big three are XO, Euphoria, and VOG.[/QUOTE]Yes. In my opinion in judging ease of booking, variety of women, quality of experience, VOG is the best by far, followed by Euphoria, then XO.

[QUOTE=JoeThighsMan;2774874]XO is the biggest? I'm surprised. I like VOG, personally. They seem to have more variety and options daily.[/QUOTE]When I went before the panedemic I recall that VOG is mainly if not only outcall? Do they do incall or is it strictly outcalls? I remember only doing XO and Euphoria mainly because of this.

[QUOTE=Bearsi;2774946]When I went before the panedemic I recall that VOG is mainly if not only outcall? Do they do incall or is it strictly outcalls? I remember only doing XO and Euphoria mainly because of this.[/QUOTE]Correct, only outcall for VOG. I only visit Montreal, so having a girl visit the hotel is no sweat for me. It may be different if I was a Montreal resident and they were visiting my home.

[QUOTE=Bearsi;2774946]When I went before the panedemic I recall that VOG is mainly if not only outcall? Do they do incall or is it strictly outcalls? I remember only doing XO and Euphoria mainly because of this.[/QUOTE]Vogue is still only outcall. Oddly, I don't think that is mentioned specifically on their website.

I'm guessing the economics are different for the agency and the girl. Perhaps some girls like getting shuttled around town rather than being cooped up in a condo.

For guys, you can wait and relax in your own place. You aren't directed to the shower as you are when you walk into an incall.

I remember when I booked superstar April of Vogue (quickly became an Indy now retired) awhile back she got there a bit early. As I was just returning from the liquor store, I was texted she was waiting out front of my AirBnB building. She was wearing a cute summer dress and didn't look like an escort. She was still a very pretty blonde who stood out even in this young, happening part of town.

[QUOTE=JoeThighsMan;2774896]Yes. In my opinion in judging ease of booking, variety of women, quality of experience, VOG is the best by far, followed by Euphoria, then XO.[/QUOTE]Vogue, Euphoria and XO are the big three. Perhaps Vogue is the best. These three have the largest rosters and have a superstar or two at various times. They all have popular girls who work sparingly so you really have to be ready to pull the trigger when they pop on the schedule. For whatever reasons, some of the girls jump agencies and have stints at two and even three agencies.

Just a general observation, but Vogue seems to currently have a lot of tenure. Outcall only might also make it easy for us visitors to get a crack at Vogue's top talents. Locals might just want to slip into a condo building in a quiet neighborhood for an incall. These could be reasons why you perceive them as the best.

At the end of the day, it only take one or two incredible girls to really make an agency impression. So I am not sure about brand loyalty unless you really prefer Vogue's outcall preponderance.

Side note: I always encourage visitors to stay near the center and tell the agency that anytime works when booking. Vogue can work it into a popular girl's schedule much easier. You are also competing with less locals as far as the time of day and the outcall set-up (mentioned above). (If you are on business, of course your schedule will be tighter.).

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2775111]Vogue is still only outcall. Oddly, I don't think that is mentioned specifically on their website.

I'm guessing the economics are different for the agency and the girl. Perhaps some girls like getting shuttled around town rather than being cooped up in a condo.

For guys, you can wait and relax in your own place. You aren't directed to the shower as you are when you walk into an incall.

I remember when I booked superstar April of Vogue (quickly became an Indy now retired) awhile back she got there a bit early. As I was just returning from the liquor store, I was texted she was waiting out front of my AirBnB building. She was wearing a cute summer dress and didn't look like an escort. She was still a very pretty blonde who stood out even in this young, happening part of town.[/QUOTE]Yea they don't have the listed so I thought maybe they have changed their policies. I was staying at a hostel in the gay village so I had no place to bring a girl over. I was going to book an airbnb but I didn't know if girls would be ok with that as some girls / agencies prefer a hotel for safety reasons which I understand, so I decided to go with a hostel since A) this was my first visit and don't speak a lick of french and might need some help B) I would be saving some coin doing so. Hostel was $33 a night compared to $75 a night for a private place on airbnb or $100 a night at a hotel.

So I guess a private condo / house on airbnb is ok? Don't want to book a place and have them say they only do hotels.

I'll most likely do a long weekend trip to MTL in 2023 maybe during the summer. They have some cool music festivals in the summer. I like to travel and enjoy the city as well as it's female occupants. Plus MTL although nice, I dislike the fact that girls are constantly booked or they cancel last minute.

What would be the months to avoid tho?

[QUOTE=Bearsi;2775330]So I guess a private condo / house on airbnb is ok? Don't want to book a place and have them say they only do hotels.

I'll most likely do a long weekend trip to MTL in 2023 maybe during the summer. They have some cool music festivals in the summer. I like to travel and enjoy the city as well as it's female occupants. Plus MTL although nice, I dislike the fact that girls are constantly booked or they cancel last minute.

What would be the months to avoid tho?[/QUOTE]I do not have any problems booking outcalls staying in a Montreal AirBnB. I would recommend staying in the center. I like the area around Concordia University. It's conveniently between the green and orange metro lines. There is a young, hip crowd centered around Rue Sainte-Catherine. Let's say you won't go hungry or thirsty. If you think you have game with the under 30 civilian girls, it's a target rich environment.

Of course, you can always reach out to Vogue to confirm they are cool with AirBnBs. I don't see any "hotels only" policy anywhere.

Yes, the summer festivals are great. Besides the music and street festivals, don't forget the big comedy festival in July. A who's who of comics drop into Montreal to perform.

One might say avoid January through March unless you enjoy hockey, but there other things to consider. The girls might not be as booked up because a drop in tourists. The cost of lodging definitely drops. The St. Patrick's Day parade can be fun.

Having said that all, if you want to have a great vacation the summer months in Montreal can't be beat.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2774862]Didn't Jalimon or someone mention some fallout recently? I drop in once in a every month or so to read reviews. I couldn't find any XO girls' reviews. Seems crazy since XO has been one of the top MTL agencies for several years.

Most of us know the green board has it's odd peculiarities and it seems the site owners allow the moderators to perpetuate them. The mods are far too meddlesome and edit or delete fairly innocuous comments at their whim. It's now kind of fun to watch the mods there try to fuck with one of their former sponsors. I always thought XO, Euphoria and Vogue didn't need the green board to thrive.[/QUOTE]If you go in Incall section (wich is what Xo does mostly these days with few exeptions) there is reviews. They allow reviews of anyone, not only just advertisers. Otherwise the board would really loose A TON of its purpose.

Now that said, I have been censored multiple times on the Green board. You are not even allowed to talk about rates and screening anymore wich is laughable. You can't talk about Twitter either. The moderation has always been overboard in my opinion but it has gotten worst the past few years. Fred Zed is not Fred Zed anymore either (dude passed away). I would like to know who own the board and who are the mods but they keep these secrets tied.

On the Xo situation specifically its a bit weird. Xo mentioned on their twitter that they had issues with them allowing certain bad reviews that were made only to "dirt" them. I know for a fact from a time where a "blue board clone" (not here obviously) existed that Xo had some big haters. Maybe competition or clients they banned for various reasons, no idea, but the hate was strong. Now that being said my personal issue with the greens is the censorship and not being allow to talk enough about very important topics. So kinda like the opposite of what Xo has against them.

In any case, ultimately Xo (and likely Euphoria too for sure, maybe even VOG as you say) clearly do not need them to make $. Their reputation has been done and they are always almost fully booked very early. Avertising there always meant that your agency was legit, not a fraud, GFE (unless specified differently) and just overall safe. After winning 6 or so years in a row of best agency, I think they don't need more. They can thrive of their current clients for many more years.

I don't want to remove anything off other agencies, I had great services myself from them, but winning when the champ does not compete pretty much is the equivalent of entering a competition for second place. Euphoria has always been a rather solid agency. Mostly due to James exeptional services. They always had a chance to win even if they finish 2nd every year. I think they will win by default this year. Vog will be 2nd and a smaller agency will snatch 3rd place. Its easy to predict. Altough it may be cool to see a small agency get 3rd place, it would had been much better to see Xo and Euphoria go head to head again.

[QUOTE=Artvand1;2762164]After a lot of research and screening, I finally got to see an indy here. Being non-Caucasian I am grateful an indy saw me, but the experience has not been great. The reviews on the Montreal green board about this provider were great. Folks mentioned she did DFK, CIM, and BBBJ. But all I got was LFK, CBJ and a HJ. I know like everything in life, ymmv. But before folks say it depends on your hygiene, trust me I am pretty clean. I showered and throughly mouthwash before reaching the incall location and again after reaching I shower and mouthwash. If anything, found the SP not that clean tbh.

I would appreciate any comments from folks who had similar experiences. And any pointers on how to book in the future.[/QUOTE]I live in Montreal and frequently hobby here. Being a brown guy, I have never faced any race-specific discrimination from indies / agencies, and I have seen girls from both humpchies and the green board. Some escorts on humpchies exclude black men, but most reputable indies do not discriminate. Without knowing the name of the girl you saw, I can only guess that it's a problem with that specific girl or maybe she was just having a bad day.

If an escort is biased against or makes it a policy to exclude certain races, they would usually ask for your "appearance" in the booking email and / or explictly mention it in their ad.

If you're in Montreal as a visitor, booking indies might be difficult as it requires planning ahead. I would recommend to check out reputed agencies lile Vog / Euphoria / XO, or the high-mileage massage places like Amazing Thai Spa / YPG / Adagio / the 2214 if the agencies are all booked.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2775379]I do not have any problems booking outcalls staying in a Montreal AirBnB. I would recommend staying in the center. I like the area around Concordia University. It's conveniently between the green and orange metro lines. There is a young, hip crowd centered around Rue Sainte-Catherine. Let's say you won't go hungry or thirsty. If you think you have game with the under 30 civilian girls, it's a target rich environment.

Of course, you can always reach out to Vogue to confirm they are cool with AirBnBs. I don't see any "hotels only" policy anywhere.

Yes, the summer festivals are great. Besides the music and street festivals, don't forget the big comedy festival in July. A who's who of comics drop into Montreal to perform.

One might say avoid January through March unless you enjoy hockey, but there other things to consider. The girls might not be as booked up because a drop in tourists. The cost of lodging definitely drops. The St. Patrick's Day parade can be fun.

Having said that all, if you want to have a great vacation the summer months in Montreal can't be beat.[/QUOTE]I agree that asking is better than speculation. However, the inability to pay for a 100 a night hotel is exactly the reason the services rules people out. People who cannot afford a decent hotel are very likely not able to afford an escort or by experience likely to be poor customers (like cancelling an appointment). Good clients attracts better girls which creates a positive feedback loop. Girls have no incentive to pay an agency that wastes their time. That is why the better girls become independents. They have good paying regulars and don't have to share their fees.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2775379]I do not have any problems booking outcalls staying in a Montreal AirBnB. I would recommend staying in the center. I like the area around Concordia University. It's conveniently between the green and orange metro lines. There is a young, hip crowd centered around Rue Sainte-Catherine. Let's say you won't go hungry or thirsty. If you think you have game with the under 30 civilian girls, it's a target rich environment.

Of course, you can always reach out to Vogue to confirm they are cool with AirBnBs. I don't see any "hotels only" policy anywhere.

Yes, the summer festivals are great. Besides the music and street festivals, don't forget the big comedy festival in July. A who's who of comics drop into Montreal to perform.

One might say avoid January through March unless you enjoy hockey, but there other things to consider. The girls might not be as booked up because a drop in tourists. The cost of lodging definitely drops. The St. Patrick's Day parade can be fun.

Having said that all, if you want to have a great vacation the summer months in Montreal can't be beat.[/QUOTE]BIG COMEDY FAN!

Will definitely look out for that! Looks like the summer will be my time to go!

It's been 3 years since I been back so will be fun to check out the city and be a tourist again. Hopefully this time around the girls I'm looking forward arent booked.

I'm rather fond of the petite french quebec girls.

[QUOTE=JosephBrenner;2775457]On the Xo situation specifically its a bit weird. Xo mentioned on their twitter that they had issues with them allowing certain bad reviews that were made only to "dirt" them. I know for a fact from a time where a "blue board clone" (not here obviously) existed that Xo had some big haters. Maybe competition or clients they banned for various reasons, no idea, but the hate was strong. Now that being said my personal issue with the greens is the censorship and not being allow to talk enough about very important topics. So kinda like the opposite of what Xo has against them.[/QUOTE]The irony of the clash between the green board and XO is not lost. I have to wonder if there is something more going on behind the scenes.

I say this because the green board usual shills are quite noticeable in launching new agency girls. You would have to wait for more reviews to come in from objective players to honestly gauge new girls. So basically it appears the shills get first crack at the new girls with the agency knowing they will help launch their escort career. It even seems that being aware of the shill's importance some of the girls provide better service to them. You know the typical response "She provided intense DFK to me. Sorry chap, you know YMMV."

The green board has also been known to remove poor reviews for girls. This is particularly true if they leave the business for awhile and come back. Even when they change names and move around their erratic service tends to resurface and their reputation haunts them.

[QUOTE=Akibono;2775512]I agree that asking is better than speculation. However, the inability to pay for a 100 a night hotel is exactly the reason the services rules people out. People who cannot afford a decent hotel are very likely not able to afford an escort or by experience likely to be poor customers (like cancelling an appointment). Good clients attracts better girls which creates a positive feedback loop. Girls have no incentive to pay an agency that wastes their time. That is why the better girls become independents. They have good paying regulars and don't have to share their fees.[/QUOTE]I would not suggest that there was an issue booking Montreal outcalls to an Airbnb unless this is actually known.

If you book an Airbnb in the center of Montreal, you will likely be in a high-rise. The agency will easily be able to determine this. True, some of the Airbnb's interiors are more austere than others. The agency will not know what you are paying. You can easily spend over $100 a night. Many of us book Airbnb's because we like the comfort and space. I don't even cook. Though I have brought back carryout.

If one was staying away from the center in a walk-up apartment, the agency might balk for a variety of reasons including security.

[QUOTE=AnwarFarzad;2775488]I live in Montreal and frequently hobby here. Being a brown guy, I have never faced any race-specific discrimination from indies / agencies, and I have seen girls from both humpchies and the green board. Some escorts on humpchies exclude black men, but most reputable indies do not discriminate. Without knowing the name of the girl you saw, I can only guess that it's a problem with that specific girl or maybe she was just having a bad day.

If an escort is biased against or makes it a policy to exclude certain races, they would usually ask for your "appearance" in the booking email and / or explictly mention it in their ad.

If you're in Montreal as a visitor, booking indies might be difficult as it requires planning ahead. I would recommend to check out reputed agencies lile Vog / Euphoria / XO, or the high-mileage massage places like Amazing Thai Spa / YPG / Adagio / the 2214 if the agencies are all booked.[/QUOTE]Thanks very much for the info, AnwarFarzad! Much appreciated. Like you mentioned the girl might have been having a bad day. And like you said booking an indy if I am only visiting Montreal has been difficult. I did not try indies up until recently as I was not sure if they would have any inhibitions seeing a brown guy, buy tried two as a last resort. I did a trip report a few posts below and yeah like you said I tried reputed agencies. I booked a girl from Euphoria and a girl from Sensation and boy I was blown away by their services. They were very nice, accommodating and provided excellent GFE. Probably the best I had so far outside FKKs in Germany. Will probably stick to them and good to know you have not faced any discrimination. I think I am too conscious / paranoid that way LOL. Thanks again!

[QUOTE=JosephBrenner;2775457]
In any case, ultimately Xo (and likely Euphoria too for sure, maybe even VOG as you say) clearly do not need them to make $. Their reputation has been done and they are always almost fully booked very early. Avertising there always meant that your agency was legit, not a fraud, GFE (unless specified differently) and just overall safe. After winning 6 or so years in a row of best agency, I think they don't need more. They can thrive of their current clients for many more years.

I don't want to remove anything off other agencies, I had great services myself from them, but winning when the champ does not compete pretty much is the equivalent of entering a competition for second place.[/QUOTE]The shame is really more for the girls of XO and any indies who do not have ads on the green board. As you mentioned, XO will be fine. Everyone knows them. The awards are very useful for the girls, should they continue in this career. But, it's been crazy to have a vote for best girls when all the XO girls are off the vote list.

My experience in MTL as a brown guy is very good. MTL is still on top of my list for best service and best quality of providers.

As a brown guy, I never felt any discrimination or bad service.

Rather, I always had best service in MTL and providers themselves referred me to other providers and suggested 3 somes.

Only once I had incident where one provider (highly reviewed and one of the top provider) who said NO to brown client after making appointment, so I had to make another plan.

I just assume she had bad experience with brown client before my appointment, so she changed her policy.

As AnwarFarzad said this maybe one off experience but IMP, MTL providers are one of the best.

[QUOTE=AnwarFarzad;2775488]I live in Montreal and frequently hobby here. Being a brown guy, I have never faced any race-specific discrimination from indies / agencies, and I have seen girls from both humpchies and the green board. Some escorts on humpchies exclude black men, but most reputable indies do not discriminate. Without knowing the name of the girl you saw, I can only guess that it's a problem with that specific girl or maybe she was just having a bad day.

If an escort is biased against or makes it a policy to exclude certain races, they would usually ask for your "appearance" in the booking email and / or explictly mention it in their ad.

If you're in Montreal as a visitor, booking indies might be difficult as it requires planning ahead. I would recommend to check out reputed agencies lile Vog / Euphoria / XO, or the high-mileage massage places like Amazing Thai Spa / YPG / Adagio / the 2214 if the agencies are all booked.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2775626]The irony of the clash between the green board and XO is not lost. I have to wonder if there is something more going on behind the scenes.

I say this because the green board usual shills are quite noticeable in launching new agency girls. You would have to wait for more reviews to come in from objective players to honestly gauge new girls. So basically it appears the shills get first crack at the new girls with the agency knowing they will help launch their escort career. It even seems that being aware of the shill's importance some of the girls provide better service to them. You know the typical response "She provided intense DFK to me. Sorry chap, you know YMMV."

The green board has also been known to remove poor reviews for girls. This is particularly true if they leave the business for awhile and come back. Even when they change names and move around their erratic service tends to resurface and their reputation haunts them.[/QUOTE]That's understandable. Some guys have lots of $ so they book often. In counterpart they get offered new girls first by agencies and unless things would go very south, they make a good review and keep this business relationship going. I wouldn't be surprise they embelish a lot of stuff. But hey if you can afford to "loose" 250 $ like its no big deal and still get some privileges, I supose its understandable.

They do so.

[QUOTE=Pk099;2775632]My experience in MTL as a brown guy is very good. MTL is still on top of my list for best service and best quality of providers.

As a brown guy, I never felt any discrimination or bad service.

Rather, I always had best service in MTL and providers themselves referred me to other providers and suggested 3 somes.

Only once I had incident where one provider (highly reviewed and one of the top provider) who said NO to brown client after making appointment, so I had to make another plan.

I just assume she had bad experience with brown client before my appointment, so she changed her policy.

As AnwarFarzad said this maybe one off experience but IMP, MTL providers are one of the best.[/QUOTE]Thanks, my recent experience has been very positive. I have posted my report below. I always mention I am brown before booking. That way if they have reservations they can avoid. But it takes just one bad client to ruin it though like you said about the one provider. That's why I was wary and always conscious on what I do.

Just taugh I would put mini-reviews and feelings about my 2022 year and who I met in a "trip report" format but for a year instead. 2022 was incredible not only because I met excellent providers and didn't had a single bad meeting, but because I also crossed ladies off my bucket list that I had for years. I am still undecided if I will vote in the green board polls as I feel its kinda shady this year. Part of me do not want to penalize the ladies or Luxury wich I used a lot, but I don't like to partake in the way its made excluding others. So here ill just shout out to the ones I enjoyed.

1) Audrey at Luxury Escort (Currently not available there or elsewhere that I know).

Started the year strong. Wanted to meet her for a while when she was at Vog. Finally was able but at Luxury. Blonde with big fake breast. Loved it! Friendly and great in bed. CIM extra. No SW.

2) Becca at Escortsxo.

Had her on bucket list since she was called Chelsea at Mike's Mansion and then Euphoria. Was cancelled once in the past when trying to book to my disapointement but we finally met. Very friendly. One of the best kisser in a long time. Great BJ too. CIM / COF ending for extra.

3) Christina Di Milano Indy (think she retired but unsure 100%, not advertised in a while).

Not our first meeting. Always great. As a regular as I can have I would say. Ended with CIM.

4) Kourtney Luxury Escorts.

This one was unplanned but turn out great. Fun lady. Good look. CIM (can't remember if extra or included).

5) Adriana Milan Indy.

Another bucket list for many years. Booking failed a few times in the past. Pricy tough at 400 $/ h but oh so worth it for what I got. Exceeded my expectation. CIM / COF included. She has a twitter with a mail but she seem to not advertise really. I found out she was available cause I was sub to Anastasia WithLove OF and she appeared in it with a client as a threesome. I supose she has regulars enough so she don't need advertising but she ain't close to meeting new clients from what I saw.

6) Stacy Luxury Escorts.

Again another bucket list girl I wanted to see for years, as way back as when she was at XXXtase under a different name. We talking like 2014 or so. So obviously she is a bit older but she still has a rocking body and provided great service. CIM / SW Included.

7) Mya Luxury Escorts.

She had face pics (but not anymore) on the website and I just taught she looked gorgeous. Petite Latina with perfect medium see breast with small nips. Also reputed to be very open minded so I really want to see her. Again exceeded my expectation. CIM / SW and a bit of COF for extra.

8) Brooke wich was at Euphoria but saw as indy (currently not on their roster but still available indy).

I seen her a few times over the years, she's been around since 2013 or so. Last I saw her was many years ago so I really wanted to meet her again. She look better than ever. She has some blond in her hair, her body was even more in shape than in my souvenir, still super pretty. Bombshell of porn kinda look with big manmades. CIM / COF for extra.

And that was it for 2022.8 meetings wich is about what I do per year. But several bucket list ladies I wanted to see for years, a few "regulars" I was happy to see again, and a couple new cummers that turned out to be amazing. No bad meetings at all. So a year to remember.

For 2023 my plans tough are a bit different. I don't really have a huge TDL. There is one on it wich is super hard (for me) to get a hold on I will try to see. Her location is pretty bad but maybe we will be able to work something out, will see. Other than that, I would like to see Bianka at Xo wich I seen way way in the past like 10 years ago, but I don't really have anyone else on a specific list. There is a few indies I would love to meet but at 400-500 $ or even 600 in some cases its really a vague "maybe depending on how goes the year". I will probably be in Montreal for a few events so could end up seeing some of the ones I saw in 2022, or ladies that were not on my radar but happen to be available. Obviously seeing a bucket list lady you been lusting for years is great, but sometimes a new surprise can have a similar effect if she is also amazing.

Happy New Year all!

[QUOTE=DethManRulz;2775630]The shame is really more for the girls of XO and any indies who do not have ads on the green board. As you mentioned, XO will be fine. Everyone knows them. The awards are very useful for the girls, should they continue in this career. But, it's been crazy to have a vote for best girls when all the XO girls are off the vote list.[/QUOTE]I ran the award myself on the green board for 2 years. I never had any interference by any of the mods. They actually thanked me both times.

Then Fred Zed unfortunately passed away.

Then I begin to receive suspensions and warning for many post. Then they suspend me indefinitely. They wrote me saying they would reinstate me but never did. I was very active back then and probably became a bit too popular. And some were quite jealous of the little party me and a few buddies had with the best girl Also, there was a real indy scene back then (before Covid). Me and a few guys on the board were sharing info on about 15 non advertising indy SP that were fantastic. That could have been the reason but anyhow all that is gone since covid. I think site like Seeking completely took over that market as there is absolutely no indy scene anymore (except green board indy a few on Twitter like Lola or indycompanion site). Classified site like Leolist is 99.99% BS now.

Things I know for sure is that yes the green board was removing bad reviews. But it's also absolutely true that some guys were writing bad reviews on purpose, out of vengeance or anything else. I knew some of these guys back then. So yeah it must be hard to maintain balance for the mods on the green board. I have no inside clue what happened between XO and green board. But having an award this year without XO girl like Kate, Arielle, Bianka for example is silly. These 3 could easily be top 3 in Montreal currently.

I know for a fact that you never ever never ever mention the green board to ANY of the girl. They all hate it haha.

Still you can get good info on the green board. Not that much with reviews but way more via the direct messages. That's the tool that help me so much back then.

Cheers!

[QUOTE=JosephBrenner;2776402]2) Becca at Escortsxo.

Had her on bucket list since she was called Chelsea at Mike's Mansion and then Euphoria. Was cancelled once in the past when trying to book to my disapointement but we finally met. Very friendly. One of the best kisser in a long time. Great BJ too. CIM / COF ending for extra.

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For 2023 my plans tough are a bit different. I don't really have a huge TDL. There is one on it wich is super hard (for me) to get a hold on I will try to see. Her location is pretty bad but maybe we will be able to work something out, will see. Other than that, I would like to see Bianka at Xo wich I seen way way in the past like 10 years ago, but I don't really have anyone else on a specific list. There is a few indies I would love to meet but at 400-500 $ or even 600 in some cases its really a vague "maybe depending on how goes the year". I will probably be in Montreal for a few events so could end up seeing some of the ones I saw in 2022, or ladies that were not on my radar but happen to be available. Obviously seeing a bucket list lady you been lusting for years is great, but sometimes a new surprise can have a similar effect if she is also amazing.[/QUOTE]Becca is awesome but by god always have a plan be as she cancel a lot.

Bianka is the only one I saw last 6 months. She's incredible. Very PSE if you want. Fuck I had seen her in 2015 and really beside boob job her body has not change at all. Fit and firm wow!

You should really try to see Kate. [URL]https://twitter.com/katealmond_/media[/URL].

She is hot and so horny my god!

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2776484]I ran the award myself on the green board for 2 years. I never had any interference by any of the mods. They actually thanked me both times.

Then Fred Zed unfortunately passed away.

Then I begin to receive suspensions and warning for many post. Then they suspend me indefinitely. They wrote me saying they would reinstate me but never did. I was very active back then and probably became a bit too popular. And some were quite jealous of the little party me and a few buddies had with the best girl Also, there was a real indy scene back then (before Covid). Me and a few guys on the board were sharing info on about 15 non advertising indy SP that were fantastic. That could have been the reason but anyhow all that is gone since covid. I think site like Seeking completely took over that market as there is absolutely no indy scene anymore (except green board indy a few on Twitter like Lola or indycompanion site). Classified site like Leolist is 99.99% BS now..[/QUOTE]I followed you (Jalimon) pre-Covid. Your account is all pretty much true.

You were single-handedly bringing life to the Indy scene at that time. And not the well-known high priced Indys, but the girls out of the center who seemed adventurous and just wanted to make a little cash. I never experienced any of your Indy recommendations. I usually was in the center without a car and it was just more convenient to contact the agencies. Besides it seemed the Indys you were hooking up with preferred a local, regular type of clientele.

Your observation of Seeking is interesting. It did appear that some of your Indys were fairly low mileage girls looking for a side hustle. Seeking works well for that, but is really not all that good for a girl looking for volume. (I seemed to remember your curvy girl in LE Plateau who enjoyed giving great head. LOL. I hope I remembered that right.).

I just know the green board mods seemed to want to be very active participants by means of moderation. In your case, perhaps your endearing nature with some of the girls caused resentment. Your "parties" were quite well-known. To use a sports metaphor, they should keep their whistle in their pocket and let us play.

Joseph Brenner is more tolerant than I am of the shenanigans. I have had some polite but firm exchanges with the shills. You learn who is who and how to read past the hyperbole. And yes Jalimon just like here if I find fellow members with the same aesthetic, I reach out to them by way of DM. Those candid exchanges are priceless as far as I am concerned.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2776484]I ran the award myself on the green board for 2 years. I never had any interference by any of the mods. They actually thanked me both times.

Then Fred Zed unfortunately passed away.

[/QUOTE]Fred passed away?

This was posted over on the green by one of the mods in regard to this years voting:

"After discussion with Fred Zed, it has been decided that from now on and effective immediately the only agencies, providers, etc. , eligible for discussions or polls on MERB that lead to the nomination of a MERB Agency of the Year, or MERB SP of the Year, or MERB Independent Provider, etc. , will need to be a MERB advertiser in good standing, or work for one (e. G. , an agency or a massage parlour). That is, by December 1st and they will need to have supported MERB for a significant portion of the year. ".

He's also been referenced a number of times over the year, and his profile says he was "last seen" today (his last post was in 2021).

[QUOTE=DethManRulz;2776815]Fred passed away?

This was posted over on the green by one of the mods in regard to this years voting:

"After discussion with Fred Zed, it has been decided that from now on and effective immediately the only agencies, providers, etc. , eligible for discussions or polls on MERB that lead to the nomination of a MERB Agency of the Year, or MERB SP of the Year, or MERB Independent Provider, etc. , will need to be a MERB advertiser in good standing, or work for one (e. G. , an agency or a massage parlour). That is, by December 1st and they will need to have supported MERB for a significant portion of the year. ".

He's also been referenced a number of times over the year, and his profile says he was "last seen" today (his last post was in 2021).[/QUOTE]New mods kept his handle after he passed away.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2776764]I followed you (Jalimon) pre-Covid. Your account is all pretty much true.

You were single-handedly bringing life to the Indy scene at that time. And not the well-known high priced Indys, but the girls out of the center who seemed adventurous and just wanted to make a little cash. I never experienced any of your Indy recommendations. I usually was in the center without a car and it was just more convenient to contact the agencies. Besides it seemed the Indys you were hooking up with preferred a local, regular type of clientele.

Your observation of Seeking is interesting. It did appear that some of your Indys were fairly low mileage girls looking for a side hustle. Seeking works well for that, but is really not all that good for a girl looking for volume. (I seemed to remember your curvy girl in LE Plateau who enjoyed giving great head. LOL. I hope I remembered that right.).

I just know the green board mods seemed to want to be very active participants by means of moderation. In your case, perhaps your endearing nature with some of the girls caused resentment. Your "parties" were quite well-known. To use a sports metaphor, they should keep their whistle in their pocket and let us play.

Joseph Brenner is more tolerant than I am of the shenanigans. I have had some polite but firm exchanges with the shills. You learn who is who and how to read past the hyperbole. And yes Jalimon just like here if I find fellow members with the same aesthetic, I reach out to them by way of DM. Those candid exchanges are priceless as far as I am concerned.[/QUOTE]Hey thanks! You got it right except the girl on the plateau, Zoé, was not really curvy she was just perfect. To this day I must admit this girl was one of the most beautiful sp I ever saw.

One of those low mileage low profile indy is now public figure. It's her: [URL]https://www.instagram.com/ninadiamondzhub/[/URL].

You needed experience to hook up with her. One bad word and you were out the door (after she took your $). Her all natural body is probably the best I ever had sex with. She was a regular of UncleBob on the green board. I remember a Friday night get together at pat's house me and unclebob were talking about her. 3 girls arrived at the party and one of them greeted us by lifting her shirt. We kept our discussion as it was more important to us talking about Nina then seeing great free boobs haha.

There was also Jenny. My god all of north of Montreal hobiest have seen her. Not perfect but always smiling and so nympho. And a few others. One little crazy blond young girl who I forgot her name but got so damn popular.

But it's the past. There is no such indy scene now it's totally gone.

The good news is there are still great girl on the agency side. I have said it before but will say again it's quite amazing to have girls like Kate, Bianka, Arielle of XO. Girl that are not in the award for 2022? Get out of here.

Jalimon's mention of independents reminded me that I need to post reviews of the two independents I recently saw.

There was a previous discussion here on ISG of whether April Killian (formerly April Rose) is thick. I don't find her to be thick at all. She has some Middle Eastern genes that give her naturally wide hips, but she isn't thick as in fat. She said she weighs exactly what she advertises. She said she gained a few pounds on vacation in the Caribbean, but has shed those pounds. That could explain her looking a little bigger in some of the pictures than in real life. Anyway, here is my review.

"April Rose now goes by April Killian. Since this was my fourth time seeing her, she is clearly my current long-term favorite in Montreal.

She has a nice big incall apartment with several rooms including a nice bathroom. If you have time to kill, there is a McDonalds a couple of blocks away with tables not visible from the counter. You can get a hot chocolate and play with your phone to keep out of the cold.

April's assistant is very responsive, so booking is a breeze. And frankly one thing I appreciate about April is that she is a hard worker who tries her best to see everyone who wants to make a booking. None of this damn Fully Booked For Three Months Out marketing nonsense you see on Twitter from so many higher-end independents, even though they seem to have the time to pose for a picture every 60 minutes on Twitter with the new expensive gift that the Richer Than Fuck client just sent them, apparently for no reason.

Sorry, I digressed. I do that a lot. But I just wanted to point out that April, despite being an upper-end escort with an OnlyFans presence, manages to remain extremely likable and one of the best persons I have ever been with.

You can see what April looks like from her significant internet presence. I would note that her boobs are bigger than in the past. But they are upright and perky. She has a heritage that gives her naturally wide hips, but there is no fat anywhere. She has the classic built for sex body, and that is one of her best characteristics. She enjoys sex and can keep up the action for the whole session while seeming to enjoy it herself. The customer definitely enjoys it. I find her facially very pretty, helped by her smiles and bubbly personality.

And you can see from her website that she offers just about every foreplay and sex act known to man and woman. She is a serious student of this stuff. We started by going through her cabinet at her incall and picking out toys for some of the activities she remembered that I like. She is quite intelligent and remembers her customers well. She is someone who is great to repeat with. You can always do GFE vanilla with her, or you can venture into fetish and alternative and BDSM activities if you want.

From an activities standpoint, we did BBBJ, including side by side. She says she gets aroused from that. CFS doggie style for the first cum. Foreplay activities included DATY, FIV, FIA, and using her vibrator on her for a really good climax from her. The second one for me was a combination BBBJ and handjob that took a long time because it was my fourth for the trip and she had to use her tantric skills and her natural hard work. But it was great for me.

Anyway, if you haven't seen her, do so. And if you have, then see her again. She looks as great as ever, and there is always something new to try with her. "

[URL]https://www.aprilkillian.com/[/URL]

I also saw Melina May for the first time. I really liked her. Here is my review of Melina.

"Melina May was very responsive to emails and showed up right at the planned time.

The two most memorable things about the session was her very pretty face and her great attitude.

That, and hair, but let's get to that last.

From a performance standpoint, she is fantastic.

I had a very big, albeit not fancy, hotel room.

The session started with talking and kissing and slow undressing on the couch. She is very intelligent and has done some traveling. She speaks fluent English and is multilingual. Not sure what her native tongue is. She us intelligent and well educated and you won't have any complaints about conversing with her. Melina is a nice, sweet girl. Looks mid-twenties in age.

Body is athletic. Definitely not fat, but not thin. Although she looked thinner than some if the pics on the website. The body was perfect for my tastes. Breasts are natural and firm and good to play with. I am not a boobs guy, though.

I had mentioned in emails some of the things I like, and she has the characteristic I find most important in an escort. She aims to please. She likes to have fun and to enjoy herself, but she tailors the session to the customer, rather than putting on the same performance several times a week for varying customers. That is difficult to put into words, but you know it when you experience it.

She has a lot of service offerings on her website, and the hour and a half I spent with her didn't encompass everything she offers. Oral sex was natural (BBBJ) and done well enough. Both cums were CFS vaginal doggie style. She is tight, so that was my preference. I didn't ask about CIM since I wanted to finish the way I just described. Among the other foreplay activities were DATY, FIV and FIA. I had asked her to bring a toy, and she brought a very interestingly shaped vibrator that was a joy to use on her and she seemed to really climax.

Melina advertises fetish on her website in the PSE offerings. She isn't a super experienced player, but she makes up for it with enthusiasm. She is a fun and open-minded girl.

Now, the hair. I am not into, or not into, female body hair. She leaves her body hair pretty natural. So there is some natural hair on her as shown on her website pics, including the Bush. She is extremely clean, and associating hair negatively is mostly just being a slave to marketing. But if you can't deal with some natural female body hair, then she isn't for you. For me, she was great and a definite repeat."

[URL]https://www.melinamay.co/melina-may-fr[/URL]

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2776850]New mods kept his handle after he passed away.[/QUOTE]When I go, you all promise me you will have the administrator retire my handle.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2776851]Hey thanks! You got it right except the girl on the plateau, Zoe, was not really curvy she was just perfect. To this day I must admit this girl was one of the most beautiful sp I ever saw.[/QUOTE]If this was the same girl I'm talking about, she was curvy in a good way. She wasn't one of these skinny young girls that our popular in Montreal.

I know some people use the term curvy to describe chubby girls. I always use it to describe a woman who has some ass, but with some tone.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2776957]If this was the same girl I'm talking about, she was curvy in a good way. She wasn't one of these skinny young girls that our popular in Montreal.

I know some people use the term curvy to describe chubby girls. I always use it to describe a woman who has some ass, but with some tone.[/QUOTE]Ho my god yes she did had a very perfect bumpy bums. I remember first time I saw her she greeted me with a light kiss then turned around, lifted her sexy silk dress and moved her bum over my jeans. Swear to god I nearly came in my jeans haha I know she was on Tinder. I am sure she found a rich dude that 'grabbed' her.

Covid had effects on many many area of life. In the next few years we will see an apocalypse in the commercial real estate market. What will all these city buildings do when company do not fully release their lease?

On the escort scene it did change a lot. Strip club were dying before covid they are now on their last wave. Only Montreal or Toronto still has a great escort agency which are affordable. On the indy side the price have jump out of proportion. For the life of me I cannot comprehend anyone spending 500 for an hour for any girl out there. None are worth that. 1 hour of sex is not worth that.

I am also seeing for the last 2 years that girl are hooking up more and more with other girl. Forget about men toxicity. Men are being put aside. I have done many kinky swinging event in my life. And one thing that I found is that women take the lead and men are just a tool. That's actually what make such event successful. Shut your mouth, get hard and we will play with your dick for our own pleasure. Well now men are being put aside as women like to play with other women more and more.

Anyway I am speaking out loud just to mention I think we are on our last years for this hobby as we all loved so much.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2776905]I am not a boobs guy, though[/QUOTE]Oh the Horror!
You're off the team.

Best Regards

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2777163]Covid had effects on many many area of life. In the next few years we will see an apocalypse in the commercial real estate market. What will all these city buildings do when company do not fully release their lease?

On the escort scene it did change a lot. Strip club were dying before covid they are now on their last wave. Only Montreal or Toronto still has a great escort agency which are affordable. On the indy side the price have jump out of proportion. For the life of me I cannot comprehend anyone spending 500 for an hour for any girl out there. None are worth that. 1 hour of sex is not worth that.[/QUOTE]I think things will work themselves out over the next few years.

The future of WFH (Work from home) is greatly exaggerated. In my opinion, it's not as productive as working in an office environment. Perhaps rents will come down, but commercial rents have always been volatile.

As far as Indys charging 500, something's got to give. I think Indy rates and agency rates have to converge. I would suggest that since Covid perhaps Indys have cut back their volume. They also might have been hunkering down with regulars who have grandfathered rates. In any event, I don't think the market has normalized.

[QUOTE=Smuler;2777230]Oh the Horror!
You're off the team.

Best Regards[/QUOTE]I was waiting for him to defend himself. Nevertheless, when I say that I am not a boobs guy I do not mean that I do not like boobs, I love boobs but I prefer ass and would not like to be kicked off the team for that. I am an ass guy and always have been. I love kissing, squeezing and generally frolicking with the derriere especially a big one. I don't necessarily have to frig it but I certainly spend more time with it in foreplay than the boobies.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2779849]I was waiting for him to defend himself. Nevertheless, when I say that I am not a boobs guy I do not mean that I do not like boobs, I love boobs but I prefer ass and would not like to be kicked off the team for that. I am an ass guy and always have been. I love kissing, squeezing and generally frolicking with the derriere especially a big one. I don't necessarily have to frig it but I certainly spend more time with it in foreplay than the boobies.[/QUOTE]Smuler and I are friends and he was just having fun. He is a tremendous connoisseur of fine breasts.

No one ever appreciates how much people like me are discriminated against, though.

It is double trouble for me since kissing doesn't do much for me.

Society does the first base, second base, third base thing in dating, and it is awful.

I know I have met someone really special, sex worker or not, when she is okay with me taking her pants off as the first thing.

I laughed when I listened to a podcast once with a sex worker who was asked about adjusting to sex work, and she said the weirdest thing was that one customer ate her out like first thing in the session, like before anything else. I was like Oh No, that might have been me.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2779897]It is double trouble for me since kissing doesn't do much for me.
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I laughed when I listened to a podcast once with a sex worker who was asked about adjusting to sex work, and she said the weirdest thing was that one customer ate her out like first thing in the session, like before anything else. I was like Oh No, that might have been me.[/QUOTE]Isn't some cunnilingus kissing?

I like face to face kissing myself, but some guys like to get down to business. Suck-fuck one might say. Straight to BJ and then intercourse.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2779971]Isn't some cunnilingus kissing?

I like face to face kissing myself, but some guys like to get down to business. Suck-fuck one might say. Straight to BJ and then intercourse.[/QUOTE]Excellent point.

I may get a T-Shirt made saying Beer is Food and Cunnilingus is Kissing to wear to picnics next summer and see if any drunk girls are okay with Pants Off First.

Apparently research on some of this started as early as 1915.

[URL]https://www.proquest.com/openview/71b06d003d55be0879f0f03909d26d93/1?pq-origsite=gscholar&cbl=51134[/URL]

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2780207].....Apparently research on some of this started as early as 1915.

[URL]https://www.proquest.com/openview/71b06d003d55be0879f0f03909d26d93/1?pq-origsite=gscholar&cbl=51134[/URL][/QUOTE]If I'm not mistaken didn't Thorg on a cave wall in France do a dissertation on this in 75,000 BC?

Last night, I decided to go for a late night massage at one of the parlors (I think Adagio). I noticed when I entered that there was a camera in the room that welcomes you, and a sign that said something like "smile, you're on camera". I'm not exactly super experienced, but I have done thins a few times and usually the places are much more discrete. DO I have anything to worry about? More concerned about next time I try to enter Canada. Is this just for the parlor in case a client misbehaves or do the police collect these? I know its legally a gray area, but I understood that the police widely tolerate this as long as there is no trafficking or minors. Just nervous all of a sudden and would appreciate if someone set my mind at ease.

[QUOTE=Throwaway2948;2785333]Last night, I decided to go for a late night massage at one of the parlors (I think Adagio). I noticed when I entered that there was a camera in the room that welcomes you, and a sign that said something like "smile, you're on camera". I'm not exactly super experienced, but I have done thins a few times and usually the places are much more discrete. DO I have anything to worry about? More concerned about next time I try to enter Canada. Is this just for the parlor in case a client misbehaves or do the police collect these? I know its legally a gray area, but I understood that the police widely tolerate this as long as there is no trafficking or minors. Just nervous all of a sudden and would appreciate if someone set my mind at ease.[/QUOTE]The police have no access to that camera for ordinary transactions, nor would they have any interest in it. And it is not illegal to enter the massage parlor.

It is there in case a lady files an assault or robbery charge against a customer for something that allegedly happened inside the room.

[QUOTE=Bearsi;2775330]Yea they don't have the listed so I thought maybe they have changed their policies. I was staying at a hostel in the gay village so I had no place to bring a girl over. I was going to book an airbnb but I didn't know if girls would be ok with that as some girls / agencies prefer a hotel for safety reasons which I understand, so I decided to go with a hostel since A) this was my first visit and don't speak a lick of french and might need some help B) I would be saving some coin doing so. Hostel was $33 a night compared to $75 a night for a private place on airbnb or $100 a night at a hotel.

So I guess a private condo / house on airbnb is ok? Don't want to book a place and have them say they only do hotels.

I'll most likely do a long weekend trip to MTL in 2023 maybe during the summer. They have some cool music festivals in the summer. I like to travel and enjoy the city as well as it's female occupants. Plus MTL although nice, I dislike the fact that girls are constantly booked or they cancel last minute.

What would be the months to avoid tho?[/QUOTE]Avoid for what? The summer months draw the most tourists and have the most mainstream events too. I guess I'm hinting a catch 22.

Cancelations from girls happen at any time. Constantly booked can be due to popular, or coming back from a absence, or influx of tourist booking. You can't plan for this just like you have to book your visit weeks ahead, and the girl ends up not working on your week.

Private condo / house are very okay. You're not getting a microwave in a hotel unless you book a suite.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2776851]Hey thanks! You got it right except the girl on the plateau, Zo, was not really curvy she was just perfect. To this day I must admit this girl was one of the most beautiful sp I ever saw.


But it's the past. There is no such indy scene now it's totally gone.

The good news is there are still great girl on the agency side. I have said it before but will say again it's quite amazing to have girls like Kate, Bianka, Arielle of XO. Girl that are not in the award for 2022? Get out of here.[/QUOTE]Was that zoe as in the blonde who toured toronto a bit and then moved there?

[QUOTE=Artvand1;2774879]Was in Montreal for work and decided to try one last time. So I booked two indies and both cancelled the last minute. One ghosted and never returned the deposit. Lesson learnt LOL. Had time to kill so decided to call agency girls. But boy, I was surprised. The service was awesome. First girl was Ashley from Sensation and second was Maria from Euphoria. Both were nice to talk to and had great personalities. They were very accommodating and provided standard GFE service. I will probably stick with them when I visit Montreal next. Thank you Ashely and Maria.

I really appreciate all the help and input from members here.[/QUOTE]Wow, ghosted too. Screw taking a chance on low end indies requesting a deposit and I suspect, no social media presence. Agencies way better bet for the safety of your money.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2777506]
As far as Indys charging 500, something's got to give. I think Indy rates and agency rates have to converge. I would suggest that since Covid perhaps Indys have cut back their volume. They also might have been hunkering down with regulars who have grandfathered rates. In any event, I don't think the market has normalized.[/QUOTE]Oh heck yes. They want to see less of us since covid but not wanting to drop their income in tandem, so they jacked their rates.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2777163]
On the escort scene it did change a lot. Strip club were dying before covid they are now on their last wave. Only Montreal or Toronto still has a great escort agency which are affordable. On the indy side the price have jump out of proportion. For the life of me I cannot comprehend anyone spending 500 for an hour for any girl out there. None are worth that. 1 hour of sex is not worth that.

Anyway I am speaking out loud just to mention I think we are on our last years for this hobby as we all loved so much.[/QUOTE]500 / HR still cheap for a millionaire w / cashflow. Nothing much has changed much to 'them'.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2774862]Didn't Jalimon or someone mention some fallout recently? I drop in once in a every month or so to read reviews. I couldn't find any XO girls' reviews. Seems crazy since XO has been one of the top MTL agencies for several years.

Most of us know the green board has it's odd peculiarities and it seems the site owners allow the moderators to perpetuate them. The mods are far too meddlesome and edit or delete fairly innocuous comments at their whim. It's now kind of fun to watch the mods there try to fuck with one of their former sponsors. I always thought XO, Euphoria and Vogue didn't need the green board to thrive.[/QUOTE]Sam hasnt been running the place. They have continued to be able to add new girls, but it seems as tho the new girls, service is flaky/upcharging.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2775116]Vogue, Euphoria and XO are the big three. Perhaps Vogue is the best. These three have the largest rosters and have a superstar or two at various times. They all have popular girls who work sparingly so you really have to be ready to pull the trigger when they pop on the schedule. For whatever reasons, some of the girls jump agencies and have stints at two and even three agencies.

[/QUOTE]Vog has nicely pissed me off as of late. I had a ocassion where 5 min past her agreed arrival time I casually contacted them to just ask that she is on the way. I then get told no, she's home.

This was a evening booking, multi HR, I had no backup plan. This was set up 2 days earlier, and clearly they would not have contacted me, since I made the contact to them.

I had purchased wine and food about $100 and of course freshly showered.

Few days later, I was itchin and nobody of interest at the other agencies on schedule I reluctactly contact vog and asked about 1 chick not on their schedule presently or the next day. I merely asked for her possibility the next day and I'd be ready multi HR (I have done this in the past w / vog) I get a no idea (which is fine).

About 2 HR later I had just randomly refreshed their site and she is on for tomorrow.

Recontacting vog, and of course, the time slot I expressed 2 HR earlier, has been taken / given away. As you see what I'm getting at, there was no 'hey she's on" (meanwhile just this week I did get a random 'hey xyz is working tomorow xhr to zhr'. So they are fully capable of notifying me.

So, on the night of her scheduled dual HR visit, I baby the agency by inquiring status when it was 15 min to arrival.

45 min later, 30 min past her arrival time, and again me with no backup plan made, again me with vog, she's still enroute.

Why? Somehow they sent her elsewhere. This despite having the correct location since the prior cancelattion on me that I had to cough them up for 3 days ago.

[QUOTE=Kabukicho;2786719]Was that zoe as in the blonde who toured toronto a bit and then moved there?[/QUOTE]No you are talking about [URL]https://mobile.twitter.com/ladyzoeto[/URL].

Not the same girl. But that Zoe in Toronto is quite something I heard. Never saw her taught.

[QUOTE=Kabukicho;2786722]500 / HR still cheap for a millionaire w / cashflow. Nothing much has changed much to 'them'.[/QUOTE]I know.

If it wasn't for my 2 kids which cost me a fortune I would have the cash flow for such price.

Still I envy those guys who get their dick serviced instead of mine.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2376291]I am going to take the liberty of copying and pasting one of Nala's merb reviews from a very trusted reviewer to provide a detail of Nala's services.

"NALA. Pics and description are accurate. Spinner type-petite all natural busty babe with beautiful 32 DD, dark blond, short hair. Looks Mediterranean. If you are into spinner you can't ask for more.

As soon I enter she receives me with deep and hot DFK. From there I knew I would have a good time. She asked me to proceed in the shower before seeing her in the bed, where she was waiting for me in a nice white lingerie.

I asked her to come near me standing on the wall in front of the little mirror. And again passionate and hot DFK. I told her I could spend all the hour just kissing her. Sooo good. So if you like kissing NALA is there for you. She enjoys a lot.

And she decided to honour Mr. Johnson with a long and delicious BBBJ. Was looking at her in the mirror. OMG her BBBJ skills are just wow. And she kept looking at me. Houha. Was about to explode. Told her was time to please her.

Went to bed and she offers me to taste her SOFT big boobs. She will show you how she likes it. While playing with her pussy. Nice moment. After I asked her if she was ready for the plat principal and she said yes. So I proceeded to my favorite meal. A long, long, succulent DATY-DIGITS for at least 30 min. She really enjoyed it. After she asked me if I was ready for the condom. With 5 min. Left I just asked her to tease me with kisses. And I came with a big big smile.

Nala is not a clock watcher at all. No tats and piercings. Very very clean. Speaks French and English fluently. But please guys handle her with care. And NALA will deliver.[/QUOTE]

Three years ago, in February 2020, I made plans to visit Montreal beginning mid-March 2020. I read the posts here and determined that my two top choices would be either Montreal Nuru or Adagio for a massage spa session and an hour with Nala Baez, who was working for Escorts XO. Nala had received several good reviews (such as the one I've quoted above from September 2019) and her look and body type match what I'm looking for (spinner, from North Africa, seems to be someone who'd be enjoyable to be with both in and out of bed).

COVID-19 intervened, so I had to postpone my trip. I'm finally getting a chance to travel to Montreal next month, March 2023, and hope that I'll finally be able to spend some time with Nala.

During the last three years, Nala switched from Escorts XO to VOG, graduated from college, then became an independent, meaning she has a more flexible schedule, has fewer customers, charges more per hour (up from $250 to $400) but will provide great service if she clicks with the guy.

Unfortunately, I've seen few if any reports on Nala here. Can anybody provide an update on this beautiful young lady?

The photo below is a screenshot from her old Twitter account. She has a new Twitter account plus can be found at [URL]nalabaez.com[/URL].

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2777506]

As far as Indys charging 500, something's got to give. I think Indy rates and agency rates have to converge. I would suggest that since Covid perhaps Indys have cut back their volume. They also might have been hunkering down with regulars who have grandfathered rates. In any event, I don't think the market has normalized.[/QUOTE]Lots of indies are friends, and its known fact among the community that they have their own private boards / groups they use to communicate, be it to exchange infos on clients (the dangerous ones for instance) and other things like that. For years some indies been pushing for rates to get higher, mostly the ones touring often to the west or toronto as rates there are higher by nature. I seen one in particular mention on Twitter she WANT the other escorts to charge more so she can justify her above market rates. I assume the inflation of the last year and a half is the reason why indies decided it was the time to up their rate, but the issue is I seen some jump from 400 (wich was already pretty high for Montreal) to 500 right away, while other tried 450 $ but it didn't last long, they "adjusted" fast to 500. Some wich were already 500 pushed as far as 600 or in some cases the jumps happened back to back, like they were 400 2 years ago and now they are 600.

I know inflation is a thing and I don't expect to pay the same rate forever. But if you look at agencies wich were roughly 180-200 in 2010, they are now 240-250 13 years later. Thats normal inflation. I wouldn't be surprise to see maybe a 20 $ jump soon also. But upping 200 $ (out of an original 400 $) in 2 years ain't normal inflation. Also if these rates were all inclusive but often its just basic GFE (no CIM, no COF).

I think its up to us the clients to not gives us our business, or at least too much. Unless you are a millionaire and money is no issue at all for you then enjoy I guess, but normies especially in Montreal are the nerv of escorts business. Why you think these "high end indies" tour that often? Its not just cause they love Toronto or Vancouver. Its because they couldn't sustain themselves financially in Montreal in most case. They have to create a "fear of missing out" by being here just sometimes so they know they will get some bookings. Providers have a lot of ways to "trick" clients. For instance these twitter screenshots of guys gifting 500 $ or sometimes 1000-2000 $ or very expensive items. Sure some of it may be real, but there has been reports in the back channel that some simply edit the pictures, change the ammount, or litteraly make a fake post because when a client gift them these expensive things, it entitle other clients to "match" it. Some clients want to be "their favorite" and will not apreciate behind outmatched by another client.

It is a business, I get it, but its up to us to be smart about it and read between the lines.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2776764]

Joseph Brenner is more tolerant than I am of the shenanigans. I have had some polite but firm exchanges with the shills. You learn who is who and how to read past the hyperbole. And yes Jalimon just like here if I find fellow members with the same aesthetic, I reach out to them by way of DM. Those candid exchanges are priceless as far as I am concerned.[/QUOTE]The funniest thing about the green board is with a lot of indies it has a bad rep yet some of them keep advertising there at least sporadically cause it does give them a legitimacy with clients that places like Leolist can't (wich has a lot of fake, pimps, scams etc). They don't see highly of clients reviews. They feel its below them. Yet the green board is highly protective of them and do not let many opinions and facts from clients pass. Its a funny thing in a way. I supose despite this "hate relationship" between providers and the board, the providers know its a usefull assets so they use it while the admins / mods love the $ so they keep this "huge filtering" on.

I have no idea how big a stream of revenue is that board but I wish sometimes it would get "Elon Musked". Bough out and become much more open / unfiltered. Personally I especially dislike the lack of transparency that the administration is. The Admin was hiding behind a nickname, he passed away, yet the new "boss" kept the same name, no idea who he is, and the mods are just numbers, much likely also using a real nickname on the board as clients. There was even rumors saying one of the mods at some point was a provider or ex provider.

But ultimately to answer your claim about tolerance, I supose its the same as the providers, I kinda need that Green Board as there are no real alternative. We got a nice thread here going on but it can't compare on the grand scheme of things. Its not focussed as much on Montreal. Its a more general board. But it seem much more open / less restrictive from what I saw since I been there.

Nala got an 8 out if 10 overall in her latest review on the big American review board a couple of months ago. She does BBBJ but not CIM. She is a great choice if you have a real thing for ladies who are part Arab. Otherwise, her performance and service offerings don't really seem to match her price, honestly. She was more popular when she was an agency lady at a lower price. Her reviews indicate she can come across as a bit uppity.

[QUOTE=MightySpearsman;2789020]Three years ago, in February 2020, I made plans to visit Montreal beginning mid-March 2020. I read the posts here and determined that my two top choices would be either Montreal Nuru or Adagio for a massage spa session and an hour with Nala Baez, who was working for Escorts XO. Nala had received several good reviews (such as the one I've quoted above from September 2019) and her look and body type match what I'm looking for (spinner, from North Africa, seems to be someone who'd be enjoyable to be with both in and out of bed).

COVID-19 intervened, so I had to postpone my trip. I'm finally getting a chance to travel to Montreal next month, March 2023, and hope that I'll finally be able to spend some time with Nala.

During the last three years, Nala switched from Escorts XO to VOG, graduated from college, then became an independent, meaning she has a more flexible schedule, has fewer customers, charges more per hour (up from $250 to $400) but will provide great service if she clicks with the guy..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JosephBrenner;2789198]Why you think these "high end indies" tour that often? Its not just cause they love Toronto or Vancouver. Its because they couldn't sustain themselves financially in Montreal in most case. They have to create a "fear of missing out" by being here just sometimes so they know they will get some bookings.[/QUOTE]So true. There are quite a few very attractive providers who really hustle their ass all across Canada not just Toronto, Vancouver and Montreal. I think it's a lot of work to make periodic appearances in the other provinces. Is two nights in Winnipeg or Halifax worthwhile? But then you see the woman relaxing in the French Riviera for a few weeks, so for those less tethered perhaps it is a good lifestyle.

[QUOTE=JosephBrenner;2789198]The funniest thing about the green board is with a lot of indies it has a bad rep yet some of them keep advertising there at least sporadically cause it does give them a legitimacy with clients that places like Leolist can't (wich has a lot of fake, pimps, scams etc). They don't see highly of clients reviews. They feel its below them. Yet the green board is highly protective of them and do not let many opinions and facts from clients pass. Its a funny thing in a way. I supose despite this "hate relationship" between providers and the board, the providers know its a usefull assets so they use it while the admins / mods love the $ so they keep this "huge filtering" on.[/QUOTE]It's interesting you mentioned the desire to protect the indies. My kerfuffle with the green board mods was quite bizarre. A new escort to the green board made a splash with a lot of advertising. Strangely, she was on the political threads and other threads voicing her opinions in order to keep eyes on her. I had (what I thought) was a friendly, humorous exchange going with her. The mod started editing my responses. I think the mod got frustrated with the persistent dialogue so he suspended me.

It was very odd. All I can think was that she had been using the board to advertise so the mod thought she needed to be sheltered from dissenting views. Or possibly the mod didn't like my views. It wasn't an issue over a bad review, criticism or anything like that. In my opinion, they have crossed over from moderating to actually censoring and curating the board posts. I'm not sure they even understand the difference.

Don't ask me who she was? I forgot. I never kept up with her whereabouts.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2789509]Nala got an 8 out if 10 overall in her latest review on the big American review board a couple of months ago. She does BBBJ but not CIM. She is a great choice if you have a real thing for ladies who are part Arab. Otherwise, her performance and service offerings don't really seem to match her price, honestly. She was more popular when she was an agency lady at a lower price. Her reviews indicate she can come across as a bit uppity.[/QUOTE]I seem to remember as an agency girl Nala had decent but not great reviews.

There was also some opinion that she wasn't very tone. If you look at her photos you will see that she is a small, curvy girl who is all natural. It's hard for a girl to carry those natural curves while simultaneously being a gym rat. Having said that, Nala looks like she is in better shape than her agency days.

[QUOTE=JosephBrenner;2789198]There was even rumors saying one of the mods at some point was a provider or ex provider.[/QUOTE]Wouldn't be the first.

Best Regards
Smuler

But ultimately to answer your claim about tolerance, I supose its the same as the providers, I kinda need that Green Board as there are no real alternative. We got a nice thread here going on but it can't compare on the grand scheme of things. It's not focussed as much on Montreal. It's a more general board. But it seem much more open / less restrictive from what I saw since I been there.

The green board is ok for some things.

The agencies and Indy's that advertise there are usually a much safer bet for you to have a decent time with them.

You need to be around for a while to know which reviewers are fairly trustworthy and not shills or just plain reviewing themselves how great they are.

As far as the mods they totally suck, a bunch of self centred power driven assholes.

Same old story give a security guard a uniform and he believes he is Sherlock Holmes.

It is the mods that are ruining this board and the freaks on the political threads which are totally biased and left leaning.

They have 6 or 7 similar threads and these idiots have been repeating the same crap on each thread and it is the same group of 7-8 posters that enjoy patting each other on the head like bobble head dolls and marvel at the crap they post.

If mods had half a brain they would cancel all these threads and tell them to stick to pussy.

Now days I spend very little time on this board. I don't really need them anymore as I know a few Indy's that I repeat with and they are more than happy to refer you to their friends for whatever your fantasies are.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2789520]It's interesting you mentioned the desire to protect the indies. My kerfuffle with the green board mods was quite bizarre. A new escort to the green board made a splash with a lot of advertising. Strangely, she was on the political threads and other threads voicing her opinions in order to keep eyes on her. I had (what I thought) was a friendly, humorous exchange going with her. The mod started editing my responses. I think the mod got frustrated with the persistent dialogue so he suspended me.

It was very odd. All I can think was that she had been using the board to advertise so the mod thought she needed to be sheltered from dissenting views. Or possibly the mod didn't like my views. It wasn't an issue over a bad review, criticism or anything like that. In my opinion, they have crossed over from moderating to actually censoring and curating the board posts. I'm not sure they even understand the difference.

Don't ask me who she was? I forgot. I never kept up with her whereabouts.[/QUOTE]I think the lady was known as Kinky Cinderella, also went by Alyssia Rose. She wasn't really that new, an ex stripper and had various other handles on the green board before.

She was a strange one, I also had PM conversations with her, on some days she was really pleasant and interesting then went weird on other days, drugs, booze who knows.

She has disappeared from the scene.

I met her once but only for lunch and a drink as a friend kind of thing, never did have a session with her, I was a bit scared of seeing her as a client thinking that she would be too clingy after, especially after the conversation we had during lunch.

A strange lady, life was not kind to her. I hope she got her life together. She could be very sweet at times.

It was also rumored that she had connections with the mods or was actually one of them, but I doubt it.

I once had a client…..

Best Regards

Great!

So let's get back to pussy.

For all newbies to Montreal, Vog, Velvet, Euphoria, XO, are agencies you can't go wrong with in Montreal and prices are very reasonable.

For Indy's. Indy companions (they are all independent providers but advertise also on one website roughly about 90 escorts) has a good selection of ladies that are reputable and you will find whatever your fantasy is but they are much more expensive.

For Indy's (I see Indy's mainly).

I would recommend.

Sexy Judy.

Katrina Vienna.

Maria Star.

KiKi blonde super star.

Alicia de la Fleur.

Gabrielle Garnier.

Julia Sky.

Sasha Johansson.

Nora Bordeleau, she is on hiatus right now.

Remember when I talked about indies trying to raise market prices. Well it looks like some are now pushing 800 $/ h. I noticed Bianca White, wich is very pretty facially ill give it, has now jumped from 600 to 800 just like that, pouf, and she already had raise from 400 to 500 to 600 in like a year or 2. And on top of that she has a 2 hour requirement. OUCH. I see only 1 possible things there. She do not want new customers (or only big whales that are multi millionaire) and may had grandfathered her regulars to a more normal price. So she still have that influx of cash coming in while trying to raise the market as she want, and may ocasionally get one of these rich dudes and make a huge ammount with them. I mean, I know in the US some escorts charge 1000 $/ h on the very high end side but that's the US, not Montreal, and even pornstars, like super known, you can get some at 1500 or even less. Basically to see Bianca White currently you have to be able to shred 1600 $. Even if you get 2 hours, that's an obscene ammount of money for a normal guy, even if you are well at ease financially.

She ain't the first to post 800, as I saw Romy Daniel also with a 800 $ per hour. Marie Cruz been at 600 for a while (also ocasionally go for a 2 h minimum) and I wouldn't be surprise she bump as well to follow Bianca as they are friends.

Now of course if guys don't follow they will have no choice to lower their rate back. Its rare but I seen it happen. I think it will depend on how much regulars they have at grandfathered rates (wich is of course just a suposition from myself, not a fact).

Honestly the only couple persons outside Hollywood / tv actresses or such that I would be willing to pay 1500-2000 $ for an hour or 2 would be like my top 3 pornstars. Not ANY pornstars, really my top 3. For a once in a lifetime experience kinda.

[QUOTE=JosephBrenner;2791468] Bianca White[/QUOTE]A question. Have you or anyone you know ever done a session with her?

You know about her past?

Best Regards
Smuler

[QUOTE=Smuler;2791495]A question. Have you or anyone you know ever done a session with her?

You know about her past?[/QUOTE]I regret not having seen her when she was at 400, which was still pricy but more "fair" back then. Sadly it didn't happened. I heard about her robbing someone (another provider I think) violently with a guy or something like that but it was a LONG time ago. Nothing like that ever came again in recent years. We all make mistakes.

Hello fellow forum members.

Have two parlors to report:

1. La Suite 300.

Site: lasuite300. Ca.

Price: $60 CAD for Massage.

Tip: $150 CAD for FS.

Girl: Ellie (Irish, No Longer There).

Details: Call to make appointment the day of, the girls don't always show up or the schedule is not accurate. Unmarked door, walk up the stairs and ring bell. Secretary will direct you to room. Pay her the massage fee up front. Girls come in one by one if no appt. Starts with body to body oil massage with thong on. Switches to nude after finishing massage. First time I was there did not get oral but second time I did. Covered full service session, no DFK but kissing is allowed but YMMV. Pay tip afterwards. Rooms are nice and showers in each room. Can easily take the bus to get there. Located off ave. Du parc. Also goes by Lux Massage I believe.

2. Montreal Nuru.

Site: [URL]montrealnurumassage.com[/URL].

Price: $220 CAD 1 HR.

Girl: Bambi.

Details: In the downtown area, not a far walk from metro. Expensive but "mainstream". Very popular and rec getting an appt by calling. Nice rooms and good nuru massage. Hand completion but no touching. I've heard the girls upcharge to see the deli counter but I had no problem. Good massage and service but pricey. Would recommend if the ending is not the main goal. Girls tend to be higher quality in terms of looks.

Vog is my go to agency for escorts. Recommend using Merb. Ca to find reviews on girls. They know there stuff.

First report so let me know if you have any advice!

[QUOTE=JosephBrenner;2791468]Remember when I talked about indies trying to raise market prices. Well it looks like some are now pushing 800 $/ h. I noticed Bianca White, wich is very pretty facially ill give it, has now jumped from 600 to 800 just like that, pouf, and she already had raise from 400 to 500 to 600 in like a year or 2. And on top of that she has a 2 hour requirement. OUCH. I see only 1 possible things there. She do not want new customers (or only big whales that are multi millionaire) and may had grandfathered her regulars to a more normal price. So she still have that influx of cash coming in while trying to raise the market as she want, and may ocasionally get one of these rich dudes and make a huge ammount with them. I mean, I know in the US some escorts charge 1000 $/ h on the very high end side but that's the US, not Montreal, and even pornstars, like super known, you can get some at 1500 or even less. Basically to see Bianca White currently you have to be able to shred 1600 $. Even if you get 2 hours, that's an obscene ammount of money for a normal guy, even if you are well at ease financially.[/QUOTE]Everything you said is likely true. Bianca White is now based in Toronto and she indicates she's traveling. Her website is a slick production.

No offense, but I don't think she's all that. Definitely not a natural beauty. If one was going to drop $600, Sasha Johansen is an extraordinary, natural beauty.

In the end, it's always best to not lock in too hard on an escort. There are always new ones coming into the game. Try to catch the rare beauties before they get too popular.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2791692]Everything you said is likely true. Bianca White is now based in Toronto and she indicates she's traveling. Her website is a slick production.

No offense, but I don't think she's all that. Definitely not a natural beauty. If one was going to drop $600, Sasha Johansen is an extraordinary, natural beauty.

In the end, it's always best to not lock in too hard on an escort. There are always new ones coming into the game. Try to catch the rare beauties before they get too popular.[/QUOTE]I agree for me Sasha is head and shoulders above Bianca.

Honestly to me Bianca looks like the poster girl for blonde bimbo porn star.

I wouldn't go near her. I won't go into detail but look into her past issues with LE.

Hopefully she has changed and this attempt at being a high end provider is legit.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2791692]

No offense, but I don't think she's all that. Definitely not a natural beauty. If one was going to drop $600, Sasha Johansen is an extraordinary, natural beauty.

In the end, it's always best to not lock in too hard on an escort. There are always new ones coming into the game. Try to catch the rare beauties before they get too popular.[/QUOTE]She has enhancement of course, and its a personal préférence if you enjoy this or not. I personally love what can be refer as the "bimbo look" when its not too exagerated, wich in the case of Bianca I think her face and upper body are amazing (but her bottom is a bit too large compare to what I prefer, but again personal preference). Overall tough she is what I consider very pretty.

As for Sasha, she is indeed very pretty, I seen her way back when she was 350 $ and open to just about everything kinky. One of the best girl I seen. I heard she changed her services to a more GFE only side and as you said had a major price rise so she is now out of my league but well can't deny she was one hell of an experience. I guess you right, see them when they start if you want affordable prices.

Hi,

Anyone got pics of the Thai girl Thalia at VOG? Or experiences.

First time you only got a massage because that's all she wanted to give or what does it depend on?

[QUOTE=SwimmingFish22;2791543]Hello fellow forum members.

Have two parlors to report:

1. La Suite 300.

Site: lasuite300. Ca.

Price: $60 CAD for Massage.

Tip: $150 CAD for FS.

Girl: Ellie (Irish, No Longer There).

Details: Call to make appointment the day of, the girls don't always show up or the schedule is not accurate. Unmarked door, walk up the stairs and ring bell. Secretary will direct you to room. Pay her the massage fee up front. Girls come in one by one if no appt. Starts with body to body oil massage with thong on. Switches to nude after finishing massage. First time I was there did not get oral but second time I did. Covered full service session, no DFK but kissing is allowed but YMMV. Pay tip afterwards. Rooms are nice and showers in each room. Can easily take the bus to get there. Located off ave. Du parc. Also goes by Lux Massage I believe.

2. Montreal Nuru.

Site: [URL]montrealnurumassage.com[/URL].

Price: $220 CAD 1 HR.

Girl: Bambi.

Details: In the downtown area, not a far walk from metro. Expensive but "mainstream". Very popular and rec getting an appt by calling. Nice rooms and good nuru massage. Hand completion but no touching. I've heard the girls upcharge to see the deli counter but I had no problem. Good massage and service but pricey. Would recommend if the ending is not the main goal. Girls tend to be higher quality in terms of looks.

Vog is my go to agency for escorts. Recommend using Merb. Ca to find reviews on girls. They know there stuff.

First report so let me know if you have any advice![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JoeZakary;2794152]First time you only got a massage because that's all she wanted to give or what does it depend on?[/QUOTE]She did not want to and I wasn't sure what to expect. They only offer CBJ for the ones that do. If I remember correctly it is 120 for just CBJ and 100 for HJ but might have changed or be slightly inaccurate.

[QUOTE=Hacsek;2790734]Great!

For all newbies to Montreal, Vog, Velvet, Euphoria, XO, are agencies you can't go wrong with in Montreal and prices are very reasonable.

[/QUOTE]Thanks. Will hit MTL in June. Haven't RTFF yet but may come back with questions on how to contact.

[QUOTE=SwimmingFish22;2791543]

2. Montreal Nuru.

Site: [URL]montrealnurumassage.com[/URL].

Price: $220 CAD 1 HR.

Girl: Bambi.

Details: In the downtown area, not a far walk from metro. Expensive but "mainstream". Very popular and rec getting an appt by calling. Nice rooms and good nuru massage. Hand completion but no touching. I've heard the girls upcharge to see the deli counter but I had no problem. Good massage and service but pricey. Would recommend if the ending is not the main goal. Girls tend to be higher quality in terms of looks.

Vog is my go to agency for escorts. Recommend using Merb. Ca to find reviews on girls. They know there stuff.

First report so let me know if you have any advice![/QUOTE]What do you mean by "mainstream" ? 220 for only a handjob and massage is. Expensive. You can have GFE for 240.

[QUOTE=JosephBrenner;2795099]What do you mean by "mainstream" ? 220 for only a handjob and massage is. Expensive. You can have GFE for 240.[/QUOTE]It was one of my first times indulging in the hobby, it is well marked on a main road and busy with a modern and clean interior with a large roster.

[QUOTE=MightySpearsman;2789020]Three years ago, in February 2020, I made plans to visit Montreal beginning mid-March 2020. I read the posts here and determined that my two top choices would be either Montreal Nuru or Adagio for a massage spa session and an hour with Nala Baez, who was working for Escorts XO. Nala had received several good reviews (such as the one I've quoted above from September 2019) and her look and body type match what I'm looking for (spinner, from North Africa, seems to be someone who'd be enjoyable to be with both in and out of bed).

COVID-19 intervened, so I had to postpone my trip. I'm finally getting a chance to travel to Montreal next month, March 2023, and hope that I'll finally be able to spend some time with Nala.

During the last three years, Nala switched from Escorts XO to VOG, graduated from college, then became an independent, meaning she has a more flexible schedule, has fewer customers, charges more per hour (up from $250 to $400) but will provide great service if she clicks with the guy.

Unfortunately, I've seen few if any reports on Nala here. Can anybody provide an update on this beautiful young lady?

The photo below is a screenshot from her old Twitter account. She has a new Twitter account plus can be found at [URL]nalabaez.com[/URL].[/QUOTE]Is she still doing duos with Lola? Now that's a North African dream date.

Hello folks, hoping to pay Montreal a visit in a few months time.

It seems like agencies are the way to go for a 'traditional' hobby experience. Is my best bet to just get a local sim to communicate with them? It would be nice if they had a Telegram channel or even Whatsapp.

Also planning to try my luck with Seeking, as had some success with it in Latin America. I'm wondering would you say most of the 20 something chics in Montreal still live with their families? (Just trying to get an idea if they might be able to host since I normally stay in air bnbs.).

[QUOTE=GuyPerson;2799178]Hello folks, hoping to pay Montreal a visit in a few months time.

It seems like agencies are the way to go for a 'traditional' hobby experience. Is my best bet to just get a local sim to communicate with them? It would be nice if they had a Telegram channel or even Whatsapp.

Also planning to try my luck with Seeking, as had some success with it in Latin America. I'm wondering would you say most of the 20 something chics in Montreal still live with their families? (Just trying to get an idea if they might be able to host since I normally stay in air bnbs.).[/QUOTE]Generally, it's all text and phone calls with the Montreal agencies. You don't have to get a SIM card, but you do have to have a way to connect by phone over the regular phone network. Many of us get SIM cards for a variety of reasons including privacy.

Your last question about whether 20 somethings still live with their families. It doesn't matter what impressions members have. Some girls might live at home. Some not. Some will have roommates in which they hide their Seeking life from. Others will have roommates where they can just ask them to leave. And whoo-hee a very small percentage of girls will say she and her roommate do threesomes.

You just have to get on Seeking and see who can host. Clearly, it will shrink the pool of girls.

More importantly, I have posted about staying in AirBnBs in downtown MTL in high-rise condo buildings. That's the best route to go for Seeking and Outcall escort agencies like Vogue.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2799183]Generally, it's all text and phone calls with the Montreal agencies. You don't have to get a SIM card, but you do have to have a way to connect by phone over the regular phone network. Many of us get SIM cards for a variety of reasons including privacy.

Your last question about whether 20 somethings still live with their families. It doesn't matter what impressions members have. Some girls might live at home. Some not. Some will have roommates in which they hide their Seeking life from. Others will have roommates where they can just ask them to leave. And whoo-hee a very small percentage of girls will say she and her roommate do threesomes.

You just have to get on Seeking and see who can host. Clearly, it will shrink the pool of girls.

More importantly, I have posted about staying in AirBnBs in downtown MTL in high-rise condo buildings. That's the best route to go for Seeking and Outcall escort agencies like Vogue.[/QUOTE]Completely agree here.

Seeking can work but my god you will loose so much time over it. And be prepared to have a plan be because most will ghost you. I would say if you really want to make sure to have a good time stick to agencies.

XO has an online chat for booking. Yet for last minute details you will anyway need a phone so yes go with a local SIM card.

Now I do not know where in the world you have done this before. Montreal is like Europe. If you have good humor, polite and communicate correctly the girl in Montreal can deliver a lot more then you ever tough they would.

[QUOTE=GuyPerson;2799178]Hello folks, hoping to pay Montreal a visit in a few months time.

It seems like agencies are the way to go for a 'traditional' hobby experience. Is my best bet to just get a local sim to communicate with them? It would be nice if they had a Telegram channel or even Whatsapp.

Also planning to try my luck with Seeking, as had some success with it in Latin America. I'm wondering would you say most of the 20 something chics in Montreal still live with their families? (Just trying to get an idea if they might be able to host since I normally stay in air bnbs.).[/QUOTE]I highly suggest you get a local SIM and not use any VOIP. I tried using my google voice service from US on my last trip and Euphoria Girls refused to setup a session. They said they only work with clients that communicate using real phones and not some VOIP.

[QUOTE=JosephBrenner;2795099]What do you mean by "mainstream" ? 220 for only a handjob and massage is. Expensive. You can have GFE for 240.[/QUOTE]Lots of escorts from Montreal and other cities in Canada on Annoncemarket now.

[QUOTE=HelloMe1238;2800552]Lots of escorts from Montreal and other cities in Canada on Annoncemarket now.[/QUOTE]I looked at it and no. These a 95% bait. Beside advertising indy on Merb's montreal board there are no more an Indy market in Montreal. Covid killed it. From 2014 to 2019 I had a pool of about 20 pure indy that were awesome in the Montreal area. All of them vanished. And now site like this or Leolist are pure crap.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2800693]I looked at it and no. These a 95% bait. Beside advertising indy on Merb's montreal board there are no more an Indy market in Montreal. Covid killed it. From 2014 to 2019 I had a pool of about 20 pure indy that were awesome in the Montreal area. All of them vanished. And now site like this or Leolist are pure crap.[/QUOTE]Yes, you had quite a few Indys working out of their homes scattered around town. You had some very good, low key providers who had a solid book of regulars.

For convenience, tourists were better off with the downtown agencies and Indys. I think Annonce was always a crapshoot for locals and French speakers alike.

First time mongering after a long break and thought I'd try my luck on a visit to Montreal. Called up Euphoria as I girl I had my eye on for a while was on the schedule that day. But no luck as she hadn't called in. So I TOFTT with Nelly.

The booker spoke good English but wasn't completely forthright with his assessment of her tattoos. He described as discrete, but she was more or less covered from knee to elbow. Nonetheless she was a sweet girl and easy to talk to too. Her English is also fine.

I was looking for a slow and sensual experience. She said that was fine, but then her mental script took over and it was pure PSE. The BBBJ included moaning and spitting, which is kind of a turn off and distraction for me. Then she put on the cover and mounted CG style. But her extremely enhanced boobs and tats were also a distraction. I rolled her over missionary and continued, but the distractions and my nerves had been mounting, so it was a BJ finish. I took a good while, but she did her job with good deep suction and accomplished the mission.

She had politely mentioned a 50 CIM surcharge and so I shot while she had lifted her head up for a moment, but she said some got in her mouth. I suppose it must've shot while she was hovered without sealed lips. Not sure if that should be chargeable, but she didn't make any drama about it, just a playful warning that I need to give her advanced notice.

All in all, not my cup of tea as I like a GND look and routine better, but if you're looking for the PSE look and script she'd be a good option. Sweet girl.

Was it incall?

[QUOTE=Notyou;2803363]First time mongering after a long break and thought I'd try my luck on a visit to Montreal. Called up Euphoria as I girl I had my eye on for a while was on the schedule that day. But no luck as she hadn't called in. So I TOFTT with Nelly.

The booker spoke good English but wasn't completely forthright with his assessment of her tattoos. He described as discrete, but she was more or less covered from knee to elbow. Nonetheless she was a sweet girl and easy to talk to too. Her English is also fine.

I was looking for a slow and sensual experience. She said that was fine, but then her mental script took over and it was pure PSE. The BBBJ included moaning and spitting, which is kind of a turn off and distraction for me. Then she put on the cover and mounted CG style. But her extremely enhanced boobs and tats were also a distraction. I rolled her over missionary and continued, but the distractions and my nerves had been mounting, so it was a BJ finish. I took a good while, but she did her job with good deep suction and accomplished the mission.

She had politely mentioned a 50 CIM surcharge and so I shot while she had lifted her head up for a moment, but she said some got in her mouth. I suppose it must've shot while she was hovered without sealed lips. Not sure if that should be chargeable, but she didn't make any drama about it, just a playful warning that I need to give her advanced notice.

All in all, not my cup of tea as I like a GND look and routine better, but if you're looking for the PSE look and script she'd be a good option. Sweet girl.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JoeZakary;2808366]Was it incall?[/QUOTE]Incall is you get to see the girl in her (or the agency) condo or hotel room.

Outcall is when the girl comes to your hotel room or house.

Is BBFS available in the city or discussing it will result in a black list?

[QUOTE=Razgrizace00;2809655]Is BBFS available in the city or discussing it will result in a black list?[/QUOTE]You can discuss it here, but I think you are telegraphing a bit of naivety. You will not find it in Canada with professionals. Perhaps some locals have established certain relationships with pros over time, but it is still unlikely.

Some guys on Seeking work this angle and have had success. I don't think it's a first time thing though.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2809799]You can discuss it here, but I think you are telegraphing a bit of naivety. You will not find it in Canada with professionals. Perhaps some locals have established certain relationships with pros over time, but it is still unlikely.

Some guys on Seeking work this angle and have had success. I don't think it's a first time thing though.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your input.

Usually use agencies, but curious about a few of the venues in the city.

LE penthouse. YPG. Mayas Angels. Amazing. (Among others).

Are two pops the standard at these places? What kind of damages should one expect, all in (house fee plus tip)?

Thinking of going to MTL in the summer around June-August for a 4 day weekend (Friday-Monday).

Haven't been to MTL for 3 years since I've been to Brazil and enjoy that much more but want to visit the petite quebec girls I've come to like in my little trek to the land of syrup.

August I believe has a music festival happening.

Since MTL is a huge college town the summer will affect the amount of girls for sure as soon will be leaving for vacation.

Can anyone give some insights when to go and I guess when not to go.

Looking forward to the trip as MTL is a nice little escape and is pretty easy to move around and has great food.

The only thing that sucks is that some of the girls can cancel last minute or they are booked for the entire day so tough to get ahold of some girls.

Also if you guys know of any great redheads I'd greatly appreciate the help as that's exactly my type and seems XO and Euphoria have just a few and VOG doenst have too many pics.

Will be getting an Airbnb so I can try out VOG and maybe some seeking girls.

[QUOTE=Bearsi;2810245]Thinking of going to MTL in the summer around June-August for a 4 day weekend (Friday-Monday).............Since MTL is a huge college town the summer will affect the amount of girls for sure as soon will be leaving for vacation.

Can anyone give some insights when to go and I guess when not to go.[/QUOTE]This is obviously a good question for a local like Jalimon.

I have not noticed a drop off in young civilians or pros during the summer. It's a place everyone wants to be June through August. Like all the cities in the North, they come alive during the summer. You noted the music festivals. There is the big comedy festival in July.

So I guess what I am saying is that you will have fun in all your MTL pursuits in the summer.

Yes I know, euphoria have incall?

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2808605]Incall is you get to see the girl in her (or the agency) condo or hotel room.

Outcall is when the girl comes to your hotel room or house.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2810737]This is obviously a good question for a local like Jalimon.

I have not noticed a drop off in young civilians or pros during the summer. It's a place everyone wants to be June through August. Like all the cities in the North, they come alive during the summer. You noted the music festivals. There is the big comedy festival in July.

So I guess what I am saying is that you will have fun in all your MTL pursuits in the summer.[/QUOTE]Sounds good! Miss the poutine and the old european town feel of the place. XO, Euphoria and VOG are my picks this trip and will report back once I go and do the rounds.

[QUOTE=JoeZakary;2810836]Yes I know, euphoria have incall?.[/QUOTE]Euphoria is primarily incall. So are EscortsXO and Velvet Love.

Vogue is strictly outcall.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2810737]This is obviously a good question for a local like Jalimon.

I have not noticed a drop off in young civilians or pros during the summer. It's a place everyone wants to be June through August. Like all the cities in the North, they come alive during the summer. You noted the music festivals. There is the big comedy festival in July.

So I guess what I am saying is that you will have fun in all your MTL pursuits in the summer.[/QUOTE]That's true. Summer, especially August, is quite bad as many girl are not working. They are enjoying the sun and partying.

Best is June but maybe avoid F1 Grand Prix as it's too crazy. Best is during Jazz Festival late June early July. Nothing beats that. And if the weather is good all the girls out there partying are a feast for your eyes.

Then the just for laugh festival in July is also a good time.

If you do need to come in August it's still ok as the city is vibrant. It can be so damn hot. Which is for me a pure pleasure.

[QUOTE=Bearsi;2810914]Sounds good! Miss the poutine and the old european town feel of the place. XO, Euphoria and VOG are my picks this trip and will report back once I go and do the rounds.[/QUOTE]I have heard some of the girl of newer agency like Luxury were quite great. And do not forget smaller Velvet agency. The booker there is awsome and a few great girl.

If you hit XO you can walk back to Greenspot Restaurant. Amazing Poutine and / or great Smoked Meat. Probably best fast food joint in all downtown / griffintown area.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2811864]I have heard some of the girl of newer agency like Luxury were quite great. And do not forget smaller Velvet agency. The booker there is awsome and a few great girl.

If you hit XO you can walk back to Greenspot Restaurant. Amazing Poutine and / or great Smoked Meat. Probably best fast food joint in all downtown / griffintown area.[/QUOTE]Never heard of luxury, velvet I will see if any good redheads pop up.

Great ill try that place out!

Heard about this place where they blindfold you to really AMP up your taste buds.

[URL]http://www.onoir.com/en[/URL]

Can't wait to go!

[QUOTE=ThatGuy23;2810171]Usually use agencies, but curious about a few of the venues in the city.

LE penthouse. YPG. Mayas Angels. Amazing. (Among others).

Are two pops the standard at these places? What kind of damages should one expect, all in (house fee plus tip)?[/QUOTE]I have only visited one massage parlour in Montreal, LE Penthouse, which I reviewed last August (#5351). In my experience it was really poor and I would definitely not recommend it. For subsequent sessions I stuck to the main escort agencies, and all the girls I saw were happy to get hot and slippery with a bottle of baby oil as well as providing FS.

[QUOTE=Whinger;2812261]I have only visited one massage parlour in Montreal, LE Penthouse, which I reviewed last August (#5351). In my experience it was really poor and I would definitely not recommend it. For subsequent sessions I stuck to the main escort agencies, and all the girls I saw were happy to get hot and slippery with a bottle of baby oil as well as providing FS.[/QUOTE]Hum LE Penthouse is known in Montreal as the high hand MP with beautiful girl and very high price. But I never went.

You could try YPG next time. They used to have great girl and booker Maria is great.

So tried reading through this forum either the links are dead or the information has no frame of reference. What's the best way of find escort girls or girls in general in montreal.

[QUOTE=David032;2814450]So tried reading through this forum either the links are dead or the information has no frame of reference. What's the best way of find escort girls or girls in general in montreal.[/QUOTE]Threads can indeed drift into irrelevance with Cheap Charlie nonsense and code words.

Here are the best agencies and advertising venue for independents.

[URL]https://www.euphoriagirls.com/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.vogmtl.com/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.escortsxo.com/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.velvetlovemtl.com/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.escortsensation.ca/[/URL]

[URL]https://escortsluxury.agency/models/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.indycompanion.com/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2814513]Threads can indeed drift into irrelevance with Cheap Charlie nonsense and code words.

Here are the best agencies and advertising venue for independents.

[URL]https://www.euphoriagirls.com/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.vogmtl.com/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.escortsxo.com/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.velvetlovemtl.com/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.escortsensation.ca/[/URL]

[URL]https://escortsluxury.agency/models/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.indycompanion.com/[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks that's perfect.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2814513]Threads can indeed drift into irrelevance with Cheap Charlie nonsense and code words.

Here are the best agencies and advertising venue for independents.

[URL]https://www.euphoriagirls.com/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.vogmtl.com/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.escortsxo.com/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.velvetlovemtl.com/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.escortsensation.ca/[/URL]

[URL]https://escortsluxury.agency/models/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.indycompanion.com/[/URL][/QUOTE]In all fairness to the membership here, the first four agencies which is all a MTL newbie really needs to know are mentioned here repeatedly. In fact, they are literally mentioned a couple times on this same page a few posts back along with Luxury.

There's nothing wrong with laying out everything out if you choose. However, it's not unusual here to expect newcomers to do a basic google search when agencies are mentioned.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2815127]In all fairness to the membership here, the first four agencies which is all a MTL newbie really needs to know are mentioned here repeatedly. In fact, they are literally mentioned a couple times on this same page a few posts back along with Luxury.

There's nothing wrong with laying out everything out if you choose. However, it's not unusual here to expect newcomers to do a basic google search when agencies are mentioned.[/QUOTE]Yes, sorry. I was thinking of another thread when I posted that.

I looked back after I hit enter, and most of the discussion was about those groups.

But never a bad idea to do a post with the most important links.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2815127]

There's nothing wrong with laying out everything out if you choose. However, it's not unusual here to expect newcomers to do a basic google search when agencies are mentioned.[/QUOTE][URL]https://merb.cc/xenforo********%E2%80%A2-montreal-%E2%80%BA-escorts-outcall-%E2%80%BA-reviews-only.8/[/URL]

Fellow gents,

I was helped tremendously last time I was in town and had a blast. Stayed at Sheraton downtown and was ok for outcall and walked to Vog incall. This time needs to be closer to convention center and was planning to stay with Marriott or Hilton brand, cab you recommend a few hotels that would be easy for outcall and not too far away from major agency incall locations? Things must have changed for the past couple of years and I desperately need to update my situation awareness.

I am still eyeing Heaven, last time met Ellie and Amanda (retired), so a few recommendation of similar type of girls would be Great. Thanks so much in advance.

[QUOTE=MrNiubility;2815799]Fellow gents,

I was helped tremendously last time I was in town and had a blast. Stayed at Sheraton downtown and was ok for outcall and walked to Vog incall. This time needs to be closer to convention center and was planning to stay with Marriott or Hilton brand, cab you recommend a few hotels that would be easy for outcall and not too far away from major agency incall locations? Things must have changed for the past couple of years and I desperately need to update my situation awareness.

I am still eyeing Heaven, last time met Ellie and Amanda (retired), so a few recommendation of similar type of girls would be Great. Thanks so much in advance.[/QUOTE]Edit: it was euphoria incall that I walked to.

This time I am looking at delta hotel by Marriott, not sure if it requires keycard to enter elevator.

Will mostly see agency girls.

[QUOTE=MrNiubility;2815799]Fellow gents,

I was helped tremendously last time I was in town and had a blast. Stayed at Sheraton downtown and was ok for outcall and walked to Vog incall. This time needs to be closer to convention center and was planning to stay with Marriott or Hilton brand, cab you recommend a few hotels that would be easy for outcall and not too far away from major agency incall locations? Things must have changed for the past couple of years and I desperately need to update my situation awareness.

I am still eyeing Heaven, last time met Ellie and Amanda (retired), so a few recommendation of similar type of girls would be Great. Thanks so much in advance.[/QUOTE]If money is not really an issue I would say go to the W hotel. It's close enough to convention center. It does requires key card buy very honestly the hotel staff there will not give a fuck. Many of their clients see SP as it's the hotel of choice for that.

I once walked in front of the desk with 2 girls that I was bringing to a little party and the staff saluted me 'Have a nice evening Mr. Daneault' just out of politeness and of course perfectly knowing Daneault is not my name at all.

And by god drop by St-Paul Steak / Frites restaurant as it's so freaaaaakingggg good!

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2811863]That's true. Summer, especially August, is quite bad as many girl are not working. They are enjoying the sun and partying.

Best is June but maybe avoid F1 Grand Prix as it's too crazy. Best is during Jazz Festival late June early July. Nothing beats that. And if the weather is good all the girls out there partying are a feast for your eyes.

Then the just for laugh festival in July is also a good time.

If you do need to come in August it's still ok as the city is vibrant. It can be so damn hot. Which is for me a pure pleasure.[/QUOTE]How is it the end of September? I was here last year in August and had a blast.

[QUOTE=MrNiubility;2815970]Edit: it was euphoria incall that I walked to.

This time I am looking at delta hotel by Marriott, not sure if it requires keycard to enter elevator.

Will mostly see agency girls.[/QUOTE]The Delta hotel is more of a business hotel. Imo the location sucked and you needed a key card to get up the elevator. Also the rooms are tired.

[QUOTE=GianniVersace;2817854]How is it the end of September? I was here last year in August and had a blast.[/QUOTE]September and October are absolutely perfect. You will get much more choices then in August. Although to be honest any month is great in Montreal to see escort.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2814513]Threads can indeed drift into irrelevance with Cheap Charlie nonsense and code words.

Here are the best agencies and advertising venue for independents.

[URL]https://www.euphoriagirls.com/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.vogmtl.com/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.escortsxo.com/[/URL]

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[URL]https://www.indycompanion.com/[/URL][/QUOTE]Thank you for providing this, seems all the providers I could ever need. I'm trying to find an easy 2 day trip for Labor Day Weeked 9/2-9/4 and Montreal was suggested.

What area / girl friendly hotel is recommended that's centrally located to all the incalls & escort services? I don't care much for amenities, but yes it'd be nice to be a safe area with restaurants & access to nightlife.

I prefer white (plenty of Latina and AA home in southeast USA), 20's, conventionally attractive Instagram types, enhance or all natural doesn't matter but I do like in shape with large bust and ass. Is there a board that reviews these girls? Thank you for any beginner recs.

I'm hoping to get 2-3 sessions a day.

[QUOTE=DJHeywood;2821869]Thank you for providing this, seems all the providers I could ever need. I'm trying to find an easy 2 day trip for Labor Day Weeked 9/2-9/4 and Montreal was suggested.

What area / girl friendly hotel is recommended that's centrally located to all the incalls & escort services? I don't care much for amenities, but yes it'd be nice to be a safe area with restaurants & access to nightlife.

I prefer white (plenty of Latina and AA home in southeast USA), 20's, conventionally attractive Instagram types, enhance or all natural doesn't matter but I do like in shape with large bust and ass. Is there a board that reviews these girls? Thank you for any beginner recs.

I'm hoping to get 2-3 sessions a day.[/QUOTE]Hopefully the local board link is okay with the ISG mods since it is a free review board.

[URL]https://merb.cc/[/URL]

All Montreal hotels are girl-friendly for outcall.

If you have Hilton points, the Doubletree that used to be a Hyatt is very centrally-located.

If you are on your own dime, or are using the more arcane generic hotel loyalty points, this place is also a great value for the money:

L'Appartement Hôtel.

Montreal is great. I need to do some Toronto reviews, as Toronto is also fantastic.

But Montreal is more European and less expensive than Toronto (although as a result of the higher overall price, Toronto has more published 30 and 45 minute offerings).

But you will have a great time in Montreal. It will be interesting for you to compare and contrast Barcelona and Montreal. Your great recent Barcelona contributions are greatly appreciated.

Montreal has almost all white women, with plenty of curvy ones.

[QUOTE=DJHeywood;2821869]e with large bust and ass. Is there a board that reviews these girls? .[/QUOTE]Merb. CC. Is the board.

You should get your hotel in oldport area I have tried intercontinental and Hotel Place the'Armes both were girl friendly.

[QUOTE=DJHeywood;2821869]Thank you for providing this, seems all the providers I could ever need. I'm trying to find an easy 2 day trip for Labor Day Weeked 9/2-9/4 and Montreal was suggested.

What area / girl friendly hotel is recommended that's centrally located to all the incalls & escort services? I don't care much for amenities, but yes it'd be nice to be a safe area with restaurants & access to nightlife.

I prefer white (plenty of Latina and AA home in southeast USA), 20's, conventionally attractive Instagram types, enhance or all natural doesn't matter but I do like in shape with large bust and ass. Is there a board that reviews these girls? Thank you for any beginner recs.

I'm hoping to get 2-3 sessions a day.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DJHeywood;2821869]Thank you for providing this, seems all the providers I could ever need. I'm trying to find an easy 2 day trip for Labor Day Weeked 9/2-9/4 and Montreal was suggested.

What area / girl friendly hotel is recommended that's centrally located to all the incalls & escort services? I don't care much for amenities, but yes it'd be nice to be a safe area with restaurants & access to nightlife.

I prefer white (plenty of Latina and AA home in southeast USA), 20's, conventionally attractive Instagram types, enhance or all natural doesn't matter but I do like in shape with large bust and ass. Is there a board that reviews these girls? Thank you for any beginner recs.

I'm hoping to get 2-3 sessions a day.[/QUOTE]Merb. Montreal erotic review board. Not to be confused with terb.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2821876]Hopefully the local board link is okay with the ISG mods since it is a free review board.[/QUOTE]If you want to speak freely without intervention of mods, ISG is a far more open platform. MERB has what I call the green hand (little joke). The mods there are constantly fiddling around with posts. So after you return, post your thoughts and reviews here as well.

As with any review site for anything, beware of shills. You won't know their names like M88 and myself. However, I usually wait for a girl to establish superior service with several guys not just a few guys who are friendly with the agencies.

M88 also mentioned Toronto which is another great weekend destination from the States. There are many, more girls than MTL, but they are also spread out around the metro area. MTL girls for the most part are downtown. There are certainly enough girls in downtown TO. To my way of thinking, you only need a few gems.

Both cities are great for tourists. MTL is more intimate with some of the European charm. TO is more of a modern North American city with some British undertones.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2822050]If you want to speak freely without intervention of mods, ISG is a far more open platform. MERB has what I call the green hand (little joke). The mods there are constantly fiddling around with posts. So after you return, post your thoughts and reviews here as well.

As with any review site for anything, beware of shills. You won't know their names like M88 and myself. However, I usually wait for a girl to establish superior service with several guys not just a few guys who are friendly with the agencies.

M88 also mentioned Toronto which is another great weekend destination from the States. There are many, more girls than MTL, but they are also spread out around the metro area. MTL girls for the most part are downtown. There are certainly enough girls in downtown TO. To my way of thinking, you only need a few gems.

Both cities are great for tourists. MTL is more intimate with some of the European charm. TO is more of a modern North American city with some British undertones.[/QUOTE]I think it's a no, but for those agencies that host their girls, do they offer any sort of lineup or even to pick 1 of even a couple? I'll use that other review board, but tastes vary & I'm very particular on looks (I'll pick a 10 looks with 7 performance, over a 7 looks 10 performance). Using several brothels in BCN I've learned how much these glamor shots can change. 1 girl looked completely different, but still a different type of 10 sexy.

[QUOTE=DJHeywood;2822223]I think it's a no, but for those agencies that host their girls, do they offer any sort of lineup or even to pick 1 of even a couple? I'll use that other review board, but tastes vary & I'm very particular on looks (I'll pick a 10 looks with 7 performance, over a 7 looks 10 performance). Using several brothels in BCN I've learned how much these glamor shots can change. 1 girl looked completely different, but still a different type of 10 sexy.[/QUOTE]You will find Montreal (and Toronto) incalls a lot different than Barcelona incalls. Part of it is cultural and part of it is legal.

Most often it is just you and that particular lady at the incall. Some of the incalls are one bedroom and some are two bedroom. At least the ones I have been to. I do more outcall than incall, so others can correct me if I am wrong.

So you won't get a line-up, but you won't need to wait if another customer is in the shower. That brings back a funny memory. I got a line-up at a San Francisco now-closed big massage parlor / brothel once. The lady I saw was fine, but one of the ladies in the line-up glared at me from the start. I don't think there was any way I had ever seen her anywhere else, but the Asians do love their circuits. I was taking a long leisurely post-coitus shower when none other than the lady who had glared at me walked right in, pulled the curtain back, and said Hurry Up, my customer is waiting.

Anyway, prostitution is technically illegal in Canada. But the law provides an automatic exemption from prosecution for the seller of sex. The Montreal, Toronto and Vancouver police announced a practical exemption from arrest for the purchaser of sex (and for any third party participating in the selling of sex (like an agency)) provided the purchase of sex does not involve minors, involve force / coercion, or involve the disturbing of the peace. So you won't find loud or continuous foot traffic into the incalls, which is more likely to occur when many ladies are present in a rather giant four or five bedroom / multi-bath facility. You will get the address, be buzzed in after entering the door code, take the elevator up to the apartment. You are expected to knock lightly, and the door will open with her hiding behind it. If you are not bright enough to understand that a half-naked girl is behind the door, her hand will appear to motion you in. But try not to make her do that, just walk in. Every once in a while, a lady on the local board will remind customers who are leaving the incall not to keep reiterating how great the sex was while exiting the apartment door within earshot of neighbors. In other words, we all have an obligation not to disturb the peace.

One other bizarre thing to remember about Canadians. They don't jaywalk. It is partially cultural and partially legal. The cops will give you a ticket if you walk against a Don't Walk sign.

[QUOTE=DJHeywood;2822223]I think it's a no, but for those agencies that host their girls, do they offer any sort of lineup or even to pick 1 of even a couple? I'll use that other review board, but tastes vary & I'm very particular on looks (I'll pick a 10 looks with 7 performance, over a 7 looks 10 performance). Using several brothels in BCN I've learned how much these glamor shots can change. 1 girl looked completely different, but still a different type of 10 sexy.[/QUOTE]In Canada, you have to rely on the local review boards and ISG. I have had great success finding lookers providing great service in MTL and TO.

I know from experience with the members on the Sao Paulo board many of them would prefer spending twice as much (Scandallo night club) to be able to select from a group of girls in front of them. A hot escort could wind up being half the price. They would not invest any time reading and understanding reviews.

So if you want line-ups in the afternoon, evening and night, Canada is not a good place. Some members have had success in massage parlors but the odds of a tourist strolling in and getting great service or even full service is greatly diminished. Even that requires some research in my opinion.

But as I said in the Sao Paulo thread regarding Montreal: In the immortal words of Bill Murray from the movie Stripes, you zip in, you zip right-out. It's an easy trip from most of the USA.

Spent a weekend in Montreal. Much needed Summer break while returning from Costa Rica. Stayed at Hotel Bonaventure. The place has a nice hot pool to enjoy the evening after sessions LOL. The hotel has a weird layout so SPs get lost trying to find the room. Had to explain in detail where the room is. Saw Maddie from Luxury and Emily from Escort Sensation. Maddie wasn't much into DFK so it was kind of a bummer but her BBBJ was good. All other acronyms were on the menu. The service overall was OK. But Emily was something else. DFK was long and her BBBJ was really good. 2 positions and one SOG. She was kind enough to take my directions. I can't complain. Overall a great weekend.

[QUOTE=GianniVersace;2817856]The Delta hotel is more of a business hotel. Imo the location sucked and you needed a key card to get up the elevator. Also the rooms are tired.[/QUOTE]Changed to Hyatt Centric for other reasons. It seems to be a relatively new hotel, and I could not find any info searching "hyatt" (only the DoubleTree which used to be a Hyatt).

Anyway, another main question from me is getting some of the recommendation from you local gents. Back in 2019, I had a great time with Elie (then VOG, but now with Euphoria), and I was impressed by the outcall here in Canada (no added on charge compared to US). Impressed by Amanda (Euphoria, now retired)'s look, but had no chemistry (in call). Trying to get Heaven but she wasn't on roster while I was in town.

I'm into girls with fit body (does not need to be very athletic, but needs to be proportional), see / the cups (natural or enhanced), white / latina, 5'5 and above, good attitude. Outcall will be preferred, but I do not mind incall.

I probably will reach out to see Elie (is she outcall or incall now?) and Heaven, but would like to have a few other names as backups just in case.

Much appreciated it.

Really need to update my situational awareness about their new talents. Who are the popular ones in Vog / Euphoria / XO these days? Thanks a lot.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2775116]Vogue, Euphoria and XO are the big three. Perhaps Vogue is the best. These three have the largest rosters and have a superstar or two at various times. They all have popular girls who work sparingly so you really have to be ready to pull the trigger when they pop on the schedule. For whatever reasons, some of the girls jump agencies and have stints at two and even three agencies.

Just a general observation, but Vogue seems to currently have a lot of tenure. Outcall only might also make it easy for us visitors to get a crack at Vogue's top talents. Locals might just want to slip into a condo building in a quiet neighborhood for an incall. These could be reasons why you perceive them as the best.

At the end of the day, it only take one or two incredible girls to really make an agency impression. So I am not sure about brand loyalty unless you really prefer Vogue's outcall preponderance.

Side note: I always encourage visitors to stay near the center and tell the agency that anytime works when booking. Vogue can work it into a popular girl's schedule much easier. You are also competing with less locals as far as the time of day and the outcall set-up (mentioned above). (If you are on business, of course your schedule will be tighter.).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrNiubility;2827266]Really need to update my situational awareness about their new talents. Who are the popular ones in Vog / Euphoria / XO these days? Thanks a lot.[/QUOTE]On MERB there's a 2022 Awards list of best agencies and girls. Of course everyone's tastes differ. But as someone who's making a 1st short visit in Sept, it helps to rely on crowd sourcing.

[QUOTE=DJHeywood;2827856]On MERB there's a 2022 Awards list of best agencies and girls. Of course everyone's tastes differ. But as someone who's making a 1st short visit in Sept, it helps to rely on crowd sourcing.[/QUOTE]Just in town for the weekend and is looking to hit up an agency and massage place. Being looking on merb. CC and here but of course not so good with location. Rex's for the downtown area as would like to be close to hotel. Looking strictly for incall and massage places. Appreciate the help.

[QUOTE=DJHeywood;2827856]On MERB there's a 2022 Awards list of best agencies and girls. Of course everyone's tastes differ. But as someone who's making a 1st short visit in Sept, it helps to rely on crowd sourcing.[/QUOTE]The Merb awards were relatively useless as of 2022 due to their complete ban on XO girls (or the agency) being a part of it.

[QUOTE=DethManRulz;2828453]The Merb awards were relatively useless as of 2022 due to their complete ban on XO girls (or the agency) being a part of it.[/QUOTE]The merb awards polls are pure horseshit with its minimal participation. Get contacts for girls and don't read anything else from those lifeless losers.

[QUOTE=TapTap;2828875]The merb awards polls are pure horseshit with its minimal participation. Get contacts for girls and don't read anything else from those lifeless losers.[/QUOTE]Don't really know most of the girls and I don't us agencies (saw Heaven in a duo arranged by an Indy friend Imhave been seeing) but would agree with Heaven as top agency escort and Katrina Vianna as best Indy.

Can't go wrong with either both gorgeous and provide top of the line service.

Katrina of course is way up there in price, I saw her when she was still at $250 HR. Her service matches her amazing looks.

I am not a fan of Merb per say as I think the Mods are biased and way over controlling but it can be useful in finding decent talent and ones where you won't be scammed or be in danger unlike the local shit sites like LL, humpchies etc. Which are full of bait and switch, pimps and scam artists.

[QUOTE=TapTap;2828875]The merb awards polls are pure horseshit with its minimal participation. Get contacts for girls and don't read anything else from those lifeless losers.[/QUOTE]I appreciate the warning. I'm making my 1st trip in September & it seemed like a resource that's better than nothing. I will stick with Euphoria Vogue & XO as a beginner.

It seems Downtown district is the best place to be for proximity to girls / where they can easily come to me? Is it safe & walkable to restaurants, nightlife? I'm 30 so I like a balance of safety & liveliness that you'd see in say hipster parts of Brooklyn.

Recs for edibles or prerolls? I believe it's just SQDC. I've smoked for 15 years but now it's just edibles 1-2 x a year. Would be nice to pop something quick after an in / outcall and walk for food.

I appreciate any advice, from Sat morning until Mon afternoon I plan on 5 or 6 sessions & will give detailed reports.

Looking for a good rub and tug, but I wouldn't turn down FS for the right price / girl. I was in Montreal before Covid and went to LePenthouse. I was just expecting a handy, but prices were more than I expected so I Went for the whole thing to make it worth it. Much different than down here in the US.

Any place to get a good looking woman and a manual? Or good cheaper options for FS? I like that LePenthouse had a menu of ladies to choose from. Just wasn't expecting the damage and spent all my funds at once.

[QUOTE=DJHeywood;2831622]I appreciate the warning..[/QUOTE]I think using merb and seeing the reviews from a few members who have been reporting for 2 or so years. And see if they post good and bad reviews. You would know who is more neutral and.

Not a middleman for the agency who is trying to entice you.

[QUOTE=DethManRulz;2828453]The Merb awards were relatively useless as of 2022 due to their complete ban on XO girls (or the agency) being a part of it.[/QUOTE]This is the first time I've heard about this. (Obviously wouldn't hear it there.) They've had winners from XO in the past. Why is this? XO didn't pay to play with ads?

[QUOTE=Jmioffe;2832127]This is the first time I've heard about this. (Obviously wouldn't hear it there.) They've had winners from XO in the past. Why is this? XO didn't pay to play with ads?[/QUOTE]Basically, yes. XO stopped advertising with them last year, which pissed off the merb dictators. Even mentioning XO in the awards thread and that they were missing would get you banned.

Is there a particular agency you guys might recommend for threesomes? I'm planning to mostly do incall but would probably get a room if needed to make the threesome happen.

Ideally they would just charge each girl's hourly rate and not tack on some additional BS fees.

Thanks.

Hi All,

It was exhaustive Monday for you and wanted to have a break. So I explored euphoria for IN Calls and all booked. After research, I decided to visit Adigo's, opted for Rosalia for 60 minutes. Had 5-10 minutes for name sake oil massage and then moved on FS. She is able to speak bits of english and tried 4-5 positions and finally out for CBJ. Looks like She is on fire, I can feel for shivering and shaking while doing fingering and while action.

Charges on higher side compared to regular escorts.

Room - 95 cad for 60 minutes, FS - 220 for one pop.

Boobs - 11/10.

Kitty - 8/10.

Support - 9/10.

I was wondering Adigo's was mentioned very few times in ISG. Is it that bad or not explored properly?

Can anyone here compare Montreal to Medellin in terms of price, service, and looks of girls? I have been to Montreal once a few years and I hit the strip clubs up hoping to pull a girl and I was unsuccessful. I ended up in what I thought was a massage place / girls would fuck you there but it was just a naked nuru massage kind of thing with a happy ending. Reason I want to check Montreal out is also the Casinos. Is there any working girls you can pick up at the Casinos? Strip clubs? Thanks in advance for any replies.

[QUOTE=GuyPerson;2834526]Is there a particular agency you guys might recommend for threesomes? I'm planning to mostly do incall but would probably get a room if needed to make the threesome happen.

Ideally they would just charge each girl's hourly rate and not tack on some additional BS fees.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]I did quite a few with XO and Euphoria in the past. Sometimes booker tried to add an upcharge which I always refused. It always went through anyhow.

[QUOTE=GuyPerson;2834526]Is there a particular agency you guys might recommend for threesomes? I'm planning to mostly do incall but would probably get a room if needed to make the threesome happen.

Ideally they would just charge each girl's hourly rate and not tack on some additional BS fees.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]VOG and Euphoria both have great opportunities.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2834638]Can anyone here compare Montreal to Medellin in terms of price, service, and looks of girls? I have been to Montreal once a few years and I hit the strip clubs up hoping to pull a girl and I was unsuccessful. I ended up in what I thought was a massage place / girls would fuck you there but it was just a naked nuru massage kind of thing with a happy ending. Reason I want to check Montreal out is also the Casinos. Is there any working girls you can pick up at the Casinos? Strip clubs? Thanks in advance for any replies.[/QUOTE]Montreal is a world-class city. It is not the type of location to use a strip club as a deli counter and handpick who you want to eat later. If that's your speed, try Tijuana, Jaco Beach, Medellin, Sao Paolo or Bangkok. Your best bet in Mtl are the agencies, or trying your luck at the bars and clubs. In a city like Mtl, why keep your fingers crossed you'll do well at a club when a trophy fish can be delivered to your room?

[QUOTE=DJHeywood;2831622]I appreciate the warning. I'm making my 1st trip in September & it seemed like a resource that's better than nothing. I will stick with Euphoria Vogue & XO as a beginner.

It seems Downtown district is the best place to be for proximity to girls / where they can easily come to me? Is it safe & walkable to restaurants, nightlife? I'm 30 so I like a balance of safety & liveliness that you'd see in say hipster parts of Brooklyn.

Recs for edibles or prerolls? I believe it's just SQDC. I've smoked for 15 years but now it's just edibles 1-2 x a year. Would be nice to pop something quick after an in / outcall and walk for food.

I appreciate any advice, from Sat morning until Mon afternoon I plan on 5 or 6 sessions & will give detailed reports.[/QUOTE]I just noticed your question did not get answered so here if my 2 c. I have stayed at several hotels downtown. The last several times at the Residence Inn. Have had girls come to me with no issues at all in any of the hotels. Just remembered one other was a Best Western. I had a nice suite on the top floor with a view that impressed the girl that night.

As far as safe, I have walked many blocks from the hotels several times during the day and early evening. I did not feel concerned during any of the walks. For reference though, I go to Tijuana and walk quite a bit and get a rental car and drive in Sao Paulo.

Good luck to you and I hope to hear wonderful experiences reports!

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2834638]Can anyone here compare Montreal to Medellin in terms of price, service, and looks of girls? I have been to Montreal once a few years and I hit the strip clubs up hoping to pull a girl and I was unsuccessful. I ended up in what I thought was a massage place / girls would fuck you there but it was just a naked nuru massage kind of thing with a happy ending. Reason I want to check Montreal out is also the Casinos. Is there any working girls you can pick up at the Casinos? Strip clubs? Thanks in advance for any replies.[/QUOTE]I would say no. You will almost never find a working girl that you can pick up in any of those venues. Strippers work at strip clubs because they do not want to be working girls. Most of the time. And no, they do not hang out in other places trying to find customers.

[QUOTE=Sunny986;2834558]Hi All,

It was exhaustive Monday for you and wanted to have a break. So I explored euphoria for IN Calls and all booked. After research, I decided to visit Adigo's, opted for Rosalia for 60 minutes. Had 5-10 minutes for name sake oil massage and then moved on FS. She is able to speak bits of english and tried 4-5 positions and finally out for CBJ. Looks like She is on fire, I can feel for shivering and shaking while doing fingering and while action.

Charges on higher side compared to regular escorts.

Room - 95 cad for 60 minutes, FS - 220 for one pop.

Boobs - 11/10.

Kitty - 8/10.

Support - 9/10.

I was wondering Adigo's was mentioned very few times in ISG. Is it that bad or not explored properly?[/QUOTE]Have you ever been to LE Penthouse? I think it was a similar rate when I was there before COVID. Sounds like a similar experience. The girl I saw spoke Arabic and isn't there anymore. I might try Adiago next time.

Are there any massage places in Montreal that still offer release and aren't full service? Sometimes I get too nervous when it comes around to the FS part.

Had a confirmed booking with an agency. However, come appointment time, I reached out to ask for ETA, and found out they cancelled me for someone else with a multi-HR booking.

I'm sure I'm not the first this has happened to. But curious how often this might occur? And did any of them offer to make it up with a future booking?

It's my first time exploring Montreal. I enjoy spending time with women in the 30-40 year old range. My erotic review site search comes up with nothing. I looked through several agencies recommended in this forum but everyone is in their 20's. Are there any agencies where I might look or how do I find the more experienced gals?

[QUOTE=LurkerZ;2838050]Had a confirmed booking with an agency. However, come appointment time, I reached out to ask for ETA, and found out they cancelled me for someone else with a multi-HR booking.

I'm sure I'm not the first this has happened to. But curious how often this might occur? And did any of them offer to make it up with a future booking?[/QUOTE]Happened to me a few times. Usually it happens when the girl is already with a client and the client decides to extend. I do no know bookers who refuse that. It sucks.

I would usually just ask the booker if he had good replacement. Often I would just cancel.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2839156]Happened to me a few times. Usually it happens when the girl is already with a client and the client decides to extend. I do no know bookers who refuse that. It sucks.

I would usually just ask the booker if he had good replacement. Often I would just cancel.[/QUOTE]Yah, didn't think they would do anything for us.

Probably smarter these days to just cancel. These days it seems even the semi-good ones get fully booked.

[QUOTE=RedBlanket;2838502]It's my first time exploring Montreal. I enjoy spending time with women in the 30-40 year old range. My erotic review site search comes up with nothing. I looked through several agencies recommended in this forum but everyone is in their 20's. Are there any agencies where I might look or how do I find the more experienced gals?[/QUOTE]The age listed by many agencies is often exaggerated, but most are still on the younger side. There are some listed in that age range, for example Amy at luxury, Azalee at vogue, katherina or nina at xxxclusive / xxxtase (laetitia and sophia are also said to be in that range in reality). Some of the indys are also in the more mature range. Eva Luna and April Dyson are similar with fairly open menus and IOP / dirty talk that is popular these days. Fiona777 is another who gives AMP style service.

When booking outcalls to hotels are members using phones tablets or laptops in their rooms? A phone would be too limited maybe? Having experienced FKK clubs I'm considering montreal mainly for the canadian girls which can't be found in europe.

[QUOTE=StarletVoyager;2841889]When booking outcalls to hotels are members using phones tablets or laptops in their rooms? A phone would be too limited maybe? Having experienced FKK clubs I'm considering montreal mainly for the canadian girls which can't be found in europe.[/QUOTE]All of the above.

Phone can't be too limited, no.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2839156]Happened to me a few times. Usually it happens when the girl is already with a client and the client decides to extend. I do no know bookers who refuse that. It sucks.

I would usually just ask the booker if he had good replacement. Often I would just cancel.[/QUOTE]Does not work both ways for me. I was with a girl and asked for an extension and was denied.

On the other hand, I had pre booked a girl for a HR, then another pre booker took my prebooking. But only due pretaking her entire day. Neither off us being o course, nnew customers to the agency.

[QUOTE=RedBlanket;2838502]It's my first time exploring Montreal. I enjoy spending time with women in the 30-40 year old range. My erotic review site search comes up with nothing. I looked through several agencies recommended in this forum but everyone is in their 20's. Are there any agencies where I might look or how do I find the more experienced gals?[/QUOTE]Bless you for comming to mlt. And. Only have interest in their 30 and 40 yr olds BTW.

[QUOTE=DJHeywood;2831622]I appreciate the warning. I'm making my 1st trip in September & it seemed like a resource that's better than nothing. I will stick with Euphoria Vogue & XO as a beginner.

It seems Downtown district is the best place to be for proximity to girls / where they can easily come to me? Is it safe & walkable to restaurants, nightlife? I'm 30 so I like a balance of safety & liveliness that you'd see in say hipster parts of Brooklyn.

Recs for edibles or prerolls? I believe it's just SQDC. I've smoked for 15 years but now it's just edibles 1-2 x a year. Would be nice to pop something quick after an in / outcall and walk for food.

I appreciate any advice, from Sat morning until Mon afternoon I plan on 5 or 6 sessions & will give detailed reports.[/QUOTE]It is not a big deal. Ie: if you stayed in griffintown, theyd still easily come to you. Yeah Sqdc for pre rolls for sure. No edibles I don't believe. Safe and walkable? Hell yes. The most common and by that not meaning endless. Is just going to be to keep an eye out on someone asking for some change, someone walking eratic get too close to you.

You have to walk in order to eyewitness the more colourful aspects the city can give you at night. Maybe stumble at the ocassional rare street walker, or more so, barely dressed clubgoers etc. But alongside deal with a few zombies.

[QUOTE=DJHeywood;2821869]
I prefer white (plenty of Latina and AA home in southeast USA), 20's, conventionally attractive Instagram types, enhance or all natural doesn't matter but I do like in shape with large bust and ass. Is there a board that reviews these girls? Thank you for any beginner recs.

I'm hoping to get 2-3 sessions a day.[/QUOTE]DJ I think you would like Serena at Vog. She been there only about possibly less than a year. Thing is any girl, who knows if she going to be on schedule.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2811864]I have heard some of the girl of newer agency like Luxury were quite great. And do not forget smaller Velvet agency. The booker there is awsome and a few great girl.

If you hit XO you can walk back to Greenspot Restaurant. Amazing Poutine and / or great Smoked Meat. Probably best fast food joint in all downtown / griffintown area.[/QUOTE]I find it funny there is a McDonalds across the street and then another burger place across the street as well. What a intersection that is.

[QUOTE=StarletVoyager;2841889]When booking outcalls to hotels are members using phones tablets or laptops in their rooms? A phone would be too limited maybe? Having experienced FKK clubs I'm considering montreal mainly for the canadian girls which can't be found in europe.[/QUOTE]Have used phone app for several years. A few years ago, some agencies asked for real phone or pm on board (citing fear of fake booking or bad / banned client), but lately no problems.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2834638]Can anyone here compare Montreal to Medellin in terms of price, service, and looks of girls? I have been to Montreal once a few years and I hit the strip clubs up hoping to pull a girl and I was unsuccessful. I ended up in what I thought was a massage place / girls would fuck you there but it was just a naked nuru massage kind of thing with a happy ending. Reason I want to check Montreal out is also the Casinos. Is there any working girls you can pick up at the Casinos? Strip clubs? Thanks in advance for any replies.[/QUOTE]In my experience, Montreal is a lot more professional, in good ways and bad. Higher prices ($200 USD vs $50-100 roughly) but the girls are classier and on-time. But you're less likely to get extra time or have them hang out with you either. Montreal is Northern European (and like any big city has variety of all sorts.) Medellin is primarily Latin, but some girls look more white, or Indian, or black.

I haven't heard much about YPG Spa in awhile. Are they no longer relevant?

[QUOTE=Jmioffe;2844225]In my experience, Montreal is a lot more professional, in good ways and bad. Higher prices ($200 USD vs $50-100 roughly) but the girls are classier and on-time. But you're less likely to get extra time or have them hang out with you either. Montreal is Northern European (and like any big city has variety of all sorts.) Medellin is primarily Latin, but some girls look more white, or Indian, or black.[/QUOTE]He didn't ask about it but I think it should be mentioned and that is the issue of security. Montreal is way safer than Medellin.

Among the well-known agencies such as Euphoria, XO and Vog are all equally good for outcall? Are you disadvantaged in terms of availability by doing outcall instead of in call because the girl will have to interrupt her schedule to come to you and therefore may be less likely or willing to do so, hence limiting potential options of who might be available.

Also, what is preferred location if you're planning to do outcall? Is it better to be in central St. Catherine Street area (eg St. Catherine and Drummond Streets), Old Montreal, or somewhere else?

Thank much.

Back to Montreal in about 6 wks, anf desperately need to get some updated info on agency girls (outcall best, incall is fine too). Into white girls, 20 late 30's, see cup and larger (in shape type of busty, not because of extra few pounds), good looking face would be better, but I can cope with a 6 face with a 8 body.

Anyone from vog, euphoria (who is the next agency I should try?) I should really prebook? Thanks a lot in advance.

[QUOTE=Jersey135;2846287]Among the well-known agencies such as Euphoria, XO and Vog are all equally good for outcall? Are you disadvantaged in terms of availability by doing outcall instead of in call because the girl will have to interrupt her schedule to come to you and therefore may be less likely or willing to do so, hence limiting potential options of who might be available.

Also, what is preferred location if you're planning to do outcall? Is it better to be in central St. Catherine Street area (eg St. Catherine and Drummond Streets), Old Montreal, or somewhere else?

Thank much.[/QUOTE]Euphoria and XO are almost exclusively incall. Unless you are a long time client and / or one of those that book multi hours you will not get the prime girl going outcall.

VOG is only outcall so it's your best bet if it's that important to you.

If you like busty then Lena is the girl for you, not the best face or the best english but will probably get the job done.

[QUOTE=MrNiubility;2846318]Back to Montreal in about 6 wks, anf desperately need to get some updated info on agency girls (outcall best, incall is fine too). Into white girls, 20 late 30's, see cup and larger (in shape type of busty, not because of extra few pounds), good looking face would be better, but I can cope with a 6 face with a 8 body.

Anyone from vog, euphoria (who is the next agency I should try?) I should really prebook? Thanks a lot in advance.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2846338]Euphoria and XO are almost exclusively incall. Unless you are a long time client and / or one of those that book multi hours you will not get the prime girl going outcall.

VOG is only outcall so it's your best bet if it's that important to you.[/QUOTE]Helpful. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Jersey135;2846287]

Also, what is preferred location if you're planning to do outcall? Is it better to be in central St. Catherine Street area (eg St. Catherine and Drummond Streets), Old Montreal, or somewhere else?

Thank much.[/QUOTE]For those two locations I'd suggest neither poses any difference to the delivery.

Girls on profile all appear now to be $260.

Some are $280.

IMHO this rate hike came waaaay too soon since their prior one, which was waaay too soon too. (that one being a pandemic jack.) the one before the pandemic jack, they gave excuses of being able to provide wifi for their girls (haha) being able to attract the top talent, and being able to have the best facilities (meh).

If it is still true they are declining new clients still since the beginning of summer while shifting to new incall locations, this jack might be to help fund these decisions long term.

[QUOTE=JoeZakary;2846459]If you like busty then Lena is the girl for you, not the best face or the best english but will probably get the job done.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.euphoriagirls.com/lena[/URL]

From pix, she looks on the heavier side though. Not too many pix showing midsection either. Had a bad experience with this Andrea girl from xxxtaste last time I was here. Pix looked promising, but was a heavy girl in person although busty.

Anyone else from VOG? I don't really care that much if it's natural or enhanced, but I like good attitude and DFK.

Ellie (VOG then euphoria, but retired?) set the bar for me.

Those previously praised girls that I have impression seem to all retire or semi-retire (Heaven and Amanda at euphoria for example). Anyone on the new roster that are similar to Heaven or Amanda or Ellie?

[QUOTE=MrNiubility;2847103][URL]https://www.euphoriagirls.com/lena[/URL]

From pix, she looks on the heavier side though. Not too many pix showing midsection either. Had a bad experience with this Andrea girl from xxxtaste last time I was here. Pix looked promising, but was a heavy girl in person although busty.

Anyone else from VOG? I don't really care that much if it's natural or enhanced, but I like good attitude and DFK.

Ellie (VOG then euphoria, but retired?) set the bar for me.

Those previously praised girls that I have impression seem to all retire or semi-retire (Heaven and Amanda at euphoria for example). Anyone on the new roster that are similar to Heaven or Amanda or Ellie?[/QUOTE]Checked on merb, and the recent reviews of Lena mentioned about the weight gain.

Looks like Elie is back at VOG with a new name, but tats allover now compared to when I saw her back in 2019. The search continues.

[QUOTE=MrNiubility;2847103][URL]https://www.euphoriagirls.com/lena[/URL]

From pix, she looks on the heavier side though. Not too many pix showing midsection either. Had a bad experience with this Andrea girl from xxxtaste last time I was here. Pix looked promising, but was a heavy girl in person although busty.

Anyone else from VOG? I don't really care that much if it's natural or enhanced, but I like good attitude and DFK.

Ellie (VOG then euphoria, but retired?) set the bar for me.

Those previously praised girls that I have impression seem to all retire or semi-retire (Heaven and Amanda at euphoria for example). Anyone on the new roster that are similar to Heaven or Amanda or Ellie?[/QUOTE]Ah if that's your taste, then you'd be pleased to know she recently slid BACK into VOG.

[URL]https://vogmtl.com/escorts/anastasia-2/[/URL]

Heaven is just taking summer off is the only thing conclusive. Like kate at xo.

[QUOTE=MrNiubility;2847103][URL]https://www.euphoriagirls.com/lena[/URL]

From pix, she looks on the heavier side though. Not too many pix showing midsection either. Had a bad experience with this Andrea girl from xxxtaste last time I was here. Pix looked promising, but was a heavy girl in person although busty.

[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.euphoriagirls.com/lilly[/URL]

10 lbs lighter whilst same height and better lookin pics, same agency.

[QUOTE=RedBlanket;2838502]It's my first time exploring Montreal. I enjoy spending time with women in the 30-40 year old range. My erotic review site search comes up with nothing. I looked through several agencies recommended in this forum but everyone is in their 20's. Are there any agencies where I might look or how do I find the more experienced gals?[/QUOTE]The easiest way is to txt the agencies and ask.

Most the chicks are older than listed.

[URL]https://vogmtl.com/escorts/romy/[/URL] def older than the 30 listed. Would she work for you?

[URL]https://vogmtl.com/escorts/clara/[/URL] older than 30.

[URL]https://vogmtl.com/escorts/anastasia-2/[/URL] pretty certain above 30 at this point.

[URL]https://vogmtl.com/escorts/azalee/[/URL] even listed as MILF.

[URL]https://montrealxxxclusive.com/escort/rose/[/URL]

[URL]https://montrealxxxclusive.com/escort/andrea/[/URL]

[URL]https://montrealxxxclusive.com/escort/katherina-2/[/URL] 38 listed.

Kate at xo, back next week. 32 yrs this year.

[URL]https://vogmtl.com/escorts/julia/[/URL] listed 35 yrs.

[QUOTE=MrNiubility;2847103][URL]https://www.euphoriagirls.com/lena[/URL]

From pix, she looks on the heavier side though. Not too many pix showing midsection either. Had a bad experience with this Andrea girl from xxxtaste last time I was here. Pix looked promising, but was a heavy girl in person although busty.

Anyone else from VOG? I don't really care that much if it's natural or enhanced, but I like good attitude and DFK.

Ellie (VOG then euphoria, but retired?) set the bar for me.

Those previously praised girls that I have impression seem to all retire or semi-retire (Heaven and Amanda at euphoria for example). Anyone on the new roster that are similar to Heaven or Amanda or Ellie?[/QUOTE]Kate at XO.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2847673]Kate at XO.[/QUOTE]Thanks a lot. Her rate seems to be higher than most xo girls, hopefully that reflects at looks and services. Any experience with Kasha and Jennifer from xo, pix look promising.

Any recommendation from vog and euphoria current lineup? Thanks again.

[QUOTE=Kabukicho;2847228][URL]https://www.euphoriagirls.com/lilly[/URL]

10 lbs lighter whilst same height and better lookin pics, same agency.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the recommendation.

[QUOTE=Kabukicho;2847396]The easiest way is to txt the agencies and ask.

Most the chicks are older than listed.

[URL]https://vogmtl.com/escorts/romy/[/URL] def older than the 30 listed. Would she work for you?

[URL]https://vogmtl.com/escorts/clara/[/URL] older than 30.

[URL]https://vogmtl.com/escorts/anastasia-2/[/URL] pretty certain above 30 at this point.

[URL]https://vogmtl.com/escorts/azalee/[/URL] even listed as MILF.

[URL]https://montrealxxxclusive.com/escort/rose/[/URL]

[URL]https://montrealxxxclusive.com/escort/andrea/[/URL]

[URL]https://montrealxxxclusive.com/escort/katherina-2/[/URL] 38 listed.

Kate at xo, back next week. 32 yrs this year.

[URL]https://vogmtl.com/escorts/julia/[/URL] listed 35 yrs.[/QUOTE]Adding 39 yrs old.

[URL]https://vogmtl.com/escorts/eve/[/URL]

[QUOTE=MrNiubility;2848013]Thanks a lot. Her rate seems to be higher than most xo girls, hopefully that reflects at looks and services. .[/QUOTE]I would not say her higher rate is toward her looks as much as it is more toward her service profile and she squirts.

Arielle is also higher than most xo.

[URL]https://www.escortsxo.com/models/sofia[/URL] is another + rate girl.

Coming to Montreal this weekend, first time in decades and first as a monger. I'm very excited for all these gorgeous easily accessible girls. What appears to bed 240-260 CAD (around $180-$190 USD) per hour, its so much cheaper than what I'm getting in ATL & MIA. My favorite ATL club is a minimum $270 for 30 min in a dirty club with little privacy curtains. So the equivalent of $540 for 60 min. The $190 for 60 is 2. 8 x cheaper. Plus theres the comfort, privacy of an own room / hotel bed, plus knowing the girl didn't just have a session 10 min before so I imagine they're more fresh. Then there's the talent pool in ATL its mostly Latinas and AAs that are easily, the American white girls are far more costly. So I'm loving the selection of French / Canadian / Middle Eastern / Euro mix options.

Will be posting a report. I land Friday midnight so I doubt I can get a 2-3 am session at hotel. Some obligations most of Sat but my goal is 2 sessions each on Sat and Sun. May gamble and just do 90 minute sessions since I'll be using the merb reviews and when calling the services from my hotel phone number I'll be explicit with what I want.