Rants and WTF are you talking about and Coronavirus!

[QUOTE=Beijing4987;2556303]Take a ride to India, Brazil, Michigan state, Oregon State, Washington state USA, then tells us that it's only the seasonal flu.[/QUOTE]Comparing 3rd world countries like Brazil and especially India, with abhorrent hygiene 'standards,' to Western Europe and the US is just plain silly and yet another example of the gaslighting CCP trolls at work here. Why haven't TENS of MILLIONS of people died in the EU or US alone (combined population of approx 780 million people) if this is more dangerous than the seasonal flu?

Besides that, the absolute number from India are of course high, but the usual trolls here are too uneducated to see things in perspective: it's a 1. 4 billion inhabitants country, Sherlock, with a primitive caste system, huge poverty and malnutrition, and even more primitive hygiene standards. Duh! If it wasn't Covid, then it would have been something else. But the neo-Marxist CCP globalists here now pretend that Indian society is on par with Western Europe or the US because they want to use this for their "pro-lockdown" and "zero-Covid" vaxxing propaganda! LOL!

By the way, millions of Indians died before 2020 every year of malaria, malnutrition, a bubonic plague in 1994 (because of those 'fantastic' hygiene standards in India), or other 3rd world causes, but apparently nobody gave a shit about this in 2019 when "Covid19" wan't even 'invented' yet! / sarc.

P.S. Let's see how 'humane' you are by advocating that India should also have the same lockdowns as in Germany or even as brutal as in China, because according to your CCP ideology "lockdowns work," right? Let's see how many tens of millions of deaths that will cause due to the massive famine and resulting economic destruction!

There is supposedly a cock tail effect among mRNA vaccinated men with micro penises and a dog living in their vicinity. Supposedly the mRNA mixes with a dog virus (proton tunneling), and a mutation that caused the micro penis in the man (also proton tunneling). And then from there on through proton tunneling it causes something known as the cri du chat syndrome through a reduction of the small arm of the 5th chromosome.

As we know already, this in turn can lead to rabies stemming from the dog getting frisky from hearing mjau mjau sounds from the mrna vaccinated micro penis guy, who starts speaking cat in an effort to get kinky with his dog. Superimposed through this entire chain of events also being linked the increased levels of a loneliness syndrome stemming from watching too much porn. Or in essence a mixture of oxytocin and testosterone at a specific dosage.

This is very high tech science, and I don't expect you guys in here to understand it. But just go ahead and take the mRNA vaccine! Especially our wannabe doctors!

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2556281][URL]https://www.br.de/nachrichten/bayern/oktoberfest-2021-in-muenchen-absage-immer-wahrscheinlicher[/URL], SVlhH91.

This is how 'effective' all those "vaccines" are! / sarc.

Think about this guys: when they are seriously contemplating to cancel an event where people meet for a beer, do you really think that in September they will allow hundreds of horny men to walk around inside a steamy, smokey, poorly ventilated FKK club and so that they can have close physical contact with women?

Many people here are thinking with the wrong 'head. ' LOL! Ok

My amateur translation: 'The Bild newspaper quotes OB Reiter with the words: "hope is getting weaker from week to week. " Already a few weeks ago, Reiter has expressed reluctance regarding the chances of a "Wiesn" in this year. Bavaria's minister president, Markus Soeder (CSU), has also shown scepticism.'
[/QUOTE]Sadly it was officially cancelled today, citing concerns because Oktoberfest is a global event.

Basically, they don't want the risk of the Oktoberfest brand becoming associated with a global super spreader event if the worst happened.

If one chose to view with a optimistic lens, the fact that the fears are because of the risk of international spread, that means the authorities are expecting that international travel will be allowed by September.

[URL]https://www.dw.com/en/germanys-oktoberfest-canceled-again-in-2021-due-to-coronavirus/a-57413659[/URL]

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2556154]I made before phone calls from the terrace, even if not while with a WG. Phone in the pocket and bluetooth headset. How do manage to tie your shoe laces alone?[/QUOTE]Of course, hiding, you can do everything, but I thought you respected rules, reproaching me not to. When you say can use phone from Globe roof, you lie, but you can hide in showers in corner. But you can call from room, your girl will be happy you pay her to rest.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2556345]Of course, hiding, you can do everything, but I thought you respected rules, reproaching me not to. When you say can use phone from Globe roof, you lie, but you can hide in showers in corner. But you can call from room, your girl will be happy you pay her to rest.[/QUOTE]You compare speeding 100 km / h with making a phone call.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2556344]Sadly it was officially cancelled today, citing concerns because Oktoberfest is a global event.

Basically, they don't want the risk of the Oktoberfest brand becoming associated with a global super spreader event if the worst happened.

If one chose to view with a optimistic lens, the fact that the fears are because of the risk of international spread, that means the authorities are expecting that international travel will be allowed by September.

[URL]https://www.dw.com/en/germanys-oktoberfest-canceled-again-in-2021-due-to-coronavirus/a-57413659[/URL][/QUOTE]I don't think anybody was expecting Oktoberfest which has 6 million visitors to go ahead mid of September. Large tents with thousand of people crammed inside getting drunk, singing and shouting sure would not be prudent.

Eu definitely wants to open up for travel: [URL]https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_21_2121[/URL].

"The Commission proposes to allow entry to the EU for non-essential reasons not only for all persons coming from countries with a good epidemiological situation but [B]also all people who have received the last recommended dose of an EU-authorized vaccine[/B]".

And here is something for the local toddler: "This reflects the latest scientific advice showing that vaccination considerably helps to break the transmission chain".

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2556278]New alternate reality.Years of training 30+ h / week are useless, all you need is 1000 km a year during 4 months and some kind of crappy Taiwanese made mountain bike mounted with slick tires to compete with champions.[/QUOTE]After all his ridiculous claims how can I believe even the 1000 km claim. Maybe he does 0, just puts a bike on the car and drives up. Or borrows a bike at the top to make a picture. Still waiting for his strava files.

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2556281]Here is North Dakota versus South Dakota: [URL]https://www.postbulletin.com/newsmd/coronavirus/6824462-North-Dakota-got-a-mask-mandate-South-Dakota-didnt.-COVID-19-cases-have-plummeted-in-both[/URL].
Go ahead guys, keep on destroying our hobby and our freedom for the virus with roughly the same mortality as the seasonal flu![/QUOTE]Too funny, you like to quote articles that don't support what you are saying. I want to congratulate you that you made it past the title and read the first paragraph. Unfortunately, you stopped there.

Here's how it continues: "low virus testing in South Dakota leaves observers with an incomplete picture of its outbreak".

"By Dec. 19, North Dakota had fallen more than 50% from its average hospitalizations high. By contrast, South Dakota had dropped just 29% over the same interval and still had not cleared the 50% threshold as of Dec. 30."

"Any parallel must come with the major caveat that South Dakota tests for the virus far less than North Dakota (North Dakota has consistently ranked in the top three states nationally in per capita testing, while South Dakota currently falls in the bottom 10)".

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2556281]For all the "lockdowns-work" fanatics here: have a look at this graph: [URL]https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2020-03-01..latest&pickerSort=desc&pickerMetric=new_deaths_per_million&Metric=Confirmed[/URL]+deaths&Interval=7-day+rolling+average&Relative+to+Population=true&Align+outbreaks=false&country=DEU SWE CHE.

Here is North Dakota versus South Dakota: [URL]https://www.postbulletin.com/newsmd/coronavirus/6824462-North-Dakota-got-a-mask-mandate-South-Dakota-didnt.-COVID-19-cases-have-plummeted-in-both[/URL].

Go ahead guys, keep on destroying our hobby and our freedom for the virus with roughly the same mortality as the seasonal flu![/QUOTE]To be clear, the article regarding the Dakotas referenced mask mandates, not lockdown-restrictions.

This is an interesting case worthy of analysis. Mask mandate North Dakota and Maskless South Dakota are similar in every way except the differing policies present. They present a convenient direct comparison of the effects of masks. As such, it would be nice to objectively discuss the case analytically with nuance rather than start another ideological flame war.

I think you previously made the point that the more you test, the more cases you will find. I agree. That being said, per your article:

[QUOTE]North Dakota has consistently ranked in the top three states nationally in per capita testing, while South Dakota currently falls in the bottom 10 (article was from January)[/QUOTE]Up to this point, the two states share similar case numbers. However, mask mandate-North Dakota has tested at over twice the rate as maskless South Dakota; yet, the number of positive results are similar in both states. This is the result of the positivity rate being over double in maskless South Dakota, 14.5% versus 7%. It would seem that the combination of the lack of a mask mandate and infrequent testing led to more asymptomatic cases spreading. Since South Dakota tests less, naturally their asymptomatic cases go unaccounted and the tests that are positive reflect more critical cases. I. E. There are more excess unreported cases in South Dakota than North Dakota.

This is reflected in the deaths per test in South Dakota being tripled that of North Dakota (0. 28 versus 0. 10) and total deaths being 30% higher.

Furthermore, prior to the mandate in North Dakota, both states reached their peaks around November 15th. However North Dakota reduced their cases to one-third in about four weeks while it took South Dakota about 7 weeks.

It appears that the masks are having a significant effect in North Dakota.

South Dakota:

[URL]https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/region/us/south-dakota[/URL]

North Dakota:

[URL]https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/region/us/north-dakota[/URL]

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2556357]You compare speeding 100 km / h with making a phone call.[/QUOTE]Never flashed above 120 on small Switzerland for snails autobahns, but I don't want to kill my brakes when limited to 100 or 80 from Globe back to Zurich, when I make huge effort not to feel asleep on snails autobahns, when I enjoy much more to pass curves full speed from Zurich to Globe, do you know radar can't flash in curves when then waves can't follow you, so Switzerland is the only country where you are more safe to be fast in curves than in straight lines. I miss some curves in Germany, arriving and passing so fast, needing 4 lines, targeting very inside entering and finishing on very left line, maybe you go to toilets before. So many kilometers in Switzerland and Germany, with 0 crash.

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2556325]Comparing 3rd world countries like Brazil and especially India, with abhorrent hygiene 'standards,' to Western Europe and the US is just plain silly and yet another example of the gaslighting CCP trolls at work here. Why haven't TENS of MILLIONS of people died in the EU or US alone (combined population of approx 780 million people) if this is more dangerous than the seasonal flu?

Besides that, the absolute number from India are of course high, but the usual trolls here are too uneducated to see things in perspective: it's a 1. 4 billion inhabitants country, Sherlock, with a primitive caste system, huge poverty and malnutrition, and even more primitive hygiene standards. Duh! If it wasn't Covid, then it would have been something else. But the neo-Marxist CCP globalists here now pretend that Indian society is on par with Western Europe or the US because they want to use this for their "pro-lockdown" and "zero-Covid" vaxxing propaganda! LOL!

By the way, millions of Indians died before 2020 every year of malaria, malnutrition, a bubonic plague in 1994 (because of those 'fantastic' hygiene standards in India), or other 3rd world causes, but apparently nobody gave a shit about this in 2019 when "Covid19" wan't even 'invented' yet! / sarc.

P.S. Let's see how 'humane' you are by advocating that India should also have the same lockdowns as in Germany or even as brutal as in China, because according to your CCP ideology "lockdowns work," right? Let's see how many tens of millions of deaths that will cause due to the massive famine and resulting economic destruction![/QUOTE]Have you ever seen a side by side comparison of a flu-pneumonia chest xray versus a covid-ARDS chest xray?

Here are sample xrays. Normal chest xray attached. One tip, white in the airspace on a chest xray is not very good.

The COVID one isn't even from an intubated patient on a ventilator.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2556382]Here's how it continues: "low virus testing in South Dakota leaves observers with an incomplete picture of its outbreak".[/QUOTE]Lies! I know a guy in South Dakota who does testing. He says he is testing everyone. But I never expected you to have first hand knowledge on this! You are just brained with lies and eat them raw. Just like you do with something else.

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2556281]Go ahead guys, keep on destroying our hobby..[/QUOTE]Once again, no one here cares if you ever get to buy another hooker ever again. With all the time you spend every day repeating the same fallacious arguments over and over, making a fool of yourself trying to convince a relatively small number of mongers, you could be out in your own neighborhood or city finding a hooker to have sex with. The world's oldest profession isn't going anywhere. And the pandemic is going to end when it ends, no matter how much flailing you do for other mongers.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2556412]Lies! I know a guy in South Dakota who does testing. He says he is testing everyone. But I never expected you to have first hand knowledge on this! You are just brained with lies and eat them raw. Just like you do with something else.[/QUOTE]Ah yes, you know a guy. This was from the article posted by your buddy HT. Please tell him to not post lies then. Be careful, he lures you into a trap. He doesn't think MMR vaccine is evil.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2556395]Never flashed above 120 on small Switzerland for snails autobahns, but I don't want to kill my brakes when limited to 100 or 80 from Globe back to Zurich, when I make huge effort not to feel asleep on snails autobahns, when I enjoy much more to pass curves full speed from Zurich to Globe, do you know radar can't flash in curves when then waves can't follow you, so Switzerland is the only country where you are more safe to be fast in curves than in straight lines. I miss some curves in Germany, arriving and passing so fast, needing 4 lines, targeting very inside entering and finishing on very left line, maybe you go to toilets before. So many kilometers in Switzerland and Germany, with 0 crash.[/QUOTE]You yourself said that you once were over 100 km / h over the speed limit in Germany. And you yourself say now that you are incapable to stay in your lance hence you can't control your car. Either you are lying like you are most of the time or it's just dumb luck that you survived so far.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2556412]Lies! I know a guy in South Dakota who does testing. He says he is testing everyone. But I never expected you to have first hand knowledge on this! You are just brained with lies and eat them raw. Just like you do with something else.[/QUOTE]You really have a problem with logic don't you? One case doesn't make one rule.

It's like your crappy figures about the side effects rate (and my screenshots by the way?

[QUOTE=MrHo;2556147]Many tours and came back alive penetrating into Anal of Brazil LOL! Purple star monger LOL!

How real American looks like? To me Native Indian people, but somehow they are forgotten out of whole debate, I went to their reservation, and it was just bunch of trailer houses. I think US fed should put more investment into their cultural heritage that actually is / should be beautiful original American heritage!

More south you go in Brazil whiter it get? I wonder how that settlement formation came from? Maybe Germans etc first arrived in Southern part of Brazil and settle there first, that is why?[/QUOTE]It's a lost cause to push for Native Americans as representative of America. They are too few in number and have never held any status in the general popular culture. Their unfortunate history also means that they never made an impression on the global stage. Similarly, no one pushes for aborigines to represent an Australian but for some reason, that does not get nearly as much global criticism.

As for why the more south you go, the more white South America gets, I casually explored this topic before in the case of Argentina and Uruguay. I suspect that since those countries border Brazil's southern borders, the reasons spill over.

First, slavery in those countries was not nearly as prominent as in Brazil and North America. The colonial economy of the former nations were dominated by mining and ranching rather than for example the labor intensive sugar plantations of Brazil and the Caribbean. As such, the indigenous population supplied enough labor to mine rather than farm. By sheer quantity, there were less African genes introduced into the gene pool. That in itself "lightens" the entire population.

The other gene pool comes from the indigenous people of South America. Sadly, in those countries, much like Natives in North America, they never rose to any significant positions of power and suffered from a similar history of genocide and social oppression. Lacking the prevalent agricultural societies, there were less opportunities for the European elite to breed with their laborers. The indigenous people always remained separate as the European population grew. There is more to the history but that is the basics.

Alternatively, Paraguay posed a completely opposite scenario. In 1814, after gaining independence from Spain, the country's new dictator actually passed a law banning European people from marrying each other. By law, Europeans had to marry Mestizos, Africans, or native people. This is one of the most unrecognized example of blatant racial social engineering that most people never heard of. As a result, Paraguay is one of the most genetically homogenous populations in the world. On the spectrum of race, it is the complete opposite of racially homogenous societies like Japan and the Scandinavian stereotype.

[URL]https://www.srf.ch/news/international/forscherpaar-der-stunde-biontech-gruender-ugur-sahin-skizziert-die-neue-normalitaet[/URL]

Summary: Europe to achieve herd immunity in July, latest August. Booster shots to be required after 12 - 18 months.

Too optimistic?

[QUOTE=Pistons;2556338]There is supposedly a cock tail effect among mRNA vaccinated men with micro penises and a dog living in their vicinity. Supposedly the mRNA mixes with a dog virus (proton tunneling), and a mutation that caused the micro penis in the man (also proton tunneling). And then from there on through proton tunneling it causes something known as the cri du chat syndrome through a reduction of the small arm of the 5th chromosome.[/QUOTE]Good. Good. I can feel your anger. Let the Hate flow through you. -Emperor Palpatine.

Why I'm always happy: The best revenge is living a better life. Winning.

Hilarious. Conservative? Like stuffing the customer (patient) pipeline full to ensure inadequate patient time to maximize revenue; or the opiod over-prescribing for cash; regular prosecution for defrauding the government, thalidomide and the list goes on. Doctoring and the white coat of objectivity is just as much a bullshit priesthood industry as any other with its mystique. The outcomes for diabetes and treatment of symptoms and not causes is incompatible with the business model. Ask a barber if you need a haircut.

Medical profession has caused plenty of harm. They even have a fancy name "iatrogenic" for "we fucked up". And never explain, foreclose options etc etc.

PS: Tatyana in the last post would certainly cure depression or stress ! Smoking hot !

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2556281]Go ahead guys, keep on destroying our hobby and our freedom for the virus with roughly the same mortality as the seasonal flu![/QUOTE]3. 2 million have died from Covid19 so far, a flu season can have about 250,000 to 600,000 deaths.

[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2556529]Hilarious. Conservative? Like stuffing the customer (patient) pipeline full to ensure inadequate patient time to maximize revenue; or the opiod over-prescribing for cash; regular prosecution for defrauding the government, thalidomide and the list goes on. Doctoring and the white coat of objectivity is just as much a bullshit priesthood industry as any other with its mystique. The outcomes for diabetes and treatment of symptoms and not causes is incompatible with the business model. Ask a barber if you need a haircut.

Medical profession has caused plenty of harm. They even have a fancy name "iatrogenic" for "we fucked up". And never explain, foreclose options etc etc.

PS: Tatyana in the last post would certainly cure depression or stress ! Smoking hot ![/QUOTE]You entirely missed the point. It was to say that physicians recognize that the role is under absurd amounts of scrutiny. Trust as a healthcare provider, once lost, is extremely difficult to regain. As such, when people ask for predictions, good physicians will make the most conservative predictions and very little promises or guarantees because if you are unsure, you don't say that you are sure.

But to counter your point, not many people go into the profession for priesthood mystique. Most would say you all can take the "prestige" of it all if it allows providers to do our jobs without the extra responsibility of being the Brother's Keeper, a role most of us never ask for.

"This is our recommendation. We can't force you to do anything" is a more preferable position.

Blaming physicians for medical noncompliance by patients when we tell them to eat right and exercise but they come back 10 pounds heavier and a blood sugar needing emergent attention is ludicrous. Hell, I've seen you stuff your face with a double portion of white pasta in 2.5 minutes yourself. Might as well have burped when you finished the last bite. While it added to a soft gut, that's hardly the worst example of average lazy humans always asking for the easiest pill when we suggest less invasive methods first.

Funny how you blame physicians for profiteering but don't look to the causes that got us to the high cost of medical care: expensive education, insurance payment systems, and ambulance chaser legal systems.

Yeah, there are money chasers and lazy providers. Or providers without a backbone to pushback against patient demands. But blaming the entire profession for the bad habits of a few is a moron's talking point.

It's like blaming all cops for black murder. Yeah, bad behavior exists but it is hardly representative of the entire group. Go ahead, #DefundWhiteCoats and see how many people will sacrifice their youth, delaying life, and take on education debt for a $100 K salary.

Do these positions come from personal bias? I had a plastic surgeon ex girlfriend that dumped me. I'm still a little bitter toward plastic surgeons. Is that it? Or is it that you are in California that jaded you. It is after all, the land of humans consumed with self interest while pretentiously feigning the virtues and morality of equality.

You want better doctors? Call your Senator and have them fix the education, legal, and healthcare insurance problems first. And we can all do our parts and trim that waistline. Abdominal girth is directly correlated with metabolic syndrome leading to strokes, heart attacks, and diabetes.

I'm happy to see many ISG "lurkers" (no insult) besides our predictable cast coming out to contest the misinformation. I think it reflects the air of optimism, showing that people are becoming more confident about the future.

I follow the American politics thread and laugh out loud every time I see the admin censoring ShooBree, citing "useless waste of bandwidth. " Hilarious every time. Sadly that pushes him over here to get his trolling fix. It's okay though, momentum is on the side of good.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2556351]EU need tourism for our economy, but if only vaccine and no test, we may have a real catastrophe like on last year. Vaccine is to protect yourself, not enough about risk to still spread, when some are vaccined and positive. I don't worry much about virus, but vaccine is not forever and not sure for efficiency about mutants. I wish EU will be much more careful than only vaccine, when we already have more than 300 000 deaths, I think this is enough for us. US should be allowed on June, UK should also, despite their mutant which killed so many of our citizens. But I doubt for German brothels on this Summer, but sea sun and sex in Spain and Austria should open, when many clubs are already open in Switzerland.[/QUOTE]UK study has shown that 1 dose of vaccine cuts the risk of transmission by 50%. So vaccinated people with two doses are significantly less likely to transmit the virus.

[QUOTE=Downandup;2556532]3. 2 million have died from Covid19 so far, a flu season can have about 250,000 to 600,000 deaths.[/QUOTE]3.2 million since Jan 2020, but one flu season is only 3-4 months.

Furthermore, again it's important to see things in perspective: the world population is 7.8 billion and every year 60 million people die and 110 million people are born.

From Jan2020 until Jan 2021, about 2 million people 'died' of Covid, if you include all the manipulated data, like counting a motorcyclist in Florida who crashed his bike, died, and was counted as a "Covid19 death. " The United Kingdom has also been caught redhanded with manipulating Covid19 deaths;.

[URL]https://cbs12.com/news/local/man-who-died-in-motorcycle-crash-counted-as-covid-19-death-in-florida-report[/URL]

[URL]https://www.bbc.com/news/health-53722711[/URL]

Those "3.2 million deaths" have been grossly pimped and manipulated, and all over sudden, normal flu deaths have plummeted. How many of these 3.2 million are regular seasonal flu deaths? [URL]https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/12/19/fact-check-flu-activity-low-likely-due-pandemic-precautions/3880001001/[/URL].

Of course they will claim that this is "because lockdowns and face diapers work," but then somehow these very same lockdowns and face diapers don't seem to work against Covid19 as "cases" continue to rise.

What we see is a SCAMdemic and a PLANdemic where the regular flu has been re-labeled re-branded as "Covid19."

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2556415]Once again, no one here cares if you ever get to buy another hooker ever again. With all the time you spend every day repeating the same fallacious arguments over and over, making a fool of yourself trying to convince a relatively small number of mongers, you could be out in your own neighborhood or city finding a hooker to have sex with. The world's oldest profession isn't going anywhere. And the pandemic is going to end when it ends, no matter how much flailing you do for other mongers.[/QUOTE]And we don't care about your opinion.

I understand that you have no interest in mongering but the rest of us are tired of you crying about how "dangerous" COVID-19 is.

You should try to post a trip report.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2556415].... The world's oldest profession isn't going anywhere. And the pandemic is going to end when it ends, no matter how much flailing you do for other mongers.[/QUOTE]We are in the era of new normals. 9/11 brought along more cumbersome restrictions in international travel. With covid 19 will come further inconveniences with respect to travel and entering establishments.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2556420]Yeah, one has to look at genetic studies in Brazil. Self reported race is kind of a joke. Most white Brazilians have something like 20% African in them.[/QUOTE]That being said let it be known that there are many white Brazilian providers who have no percentage of any other race in them just like the general population.

I do now and have always liked 100% Caucasian women even though I do date other women. Nevertheless, my favorite destination of all time was not even in Europe, it was Argentina. However, disaster struck in around 2010 when the authorities decided to clamp down on p4p there. That affected me badly. No more abundant cheap beautiful white women; I then began to visit more often Brazil and Germany. One has to roll with the times.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2556602]We are in the era of new normals. 9/11 brought along more cumbersome restrictions in international travel. With covid 19 will come further inconveniences with respect to travel and entering establishments.[/QUOTE]Exactly, so even if you manage to get on a plane to Europe, count on standing outside before the closed door of an FKK club, even with your "vaccination" card and your face masks in hand, and your tracking apps installed on your phone.

Munich cancelled the Oktoberfest again (just like last year) so this shows you how much 'confidence' the politicians have in the effectiveness of the "vaccine" and those bullshit 'fast-tests.'

If you can't be with other people in a tent drinking beer because of the "pandemic," then how can you be lying on top of a WG and fuck her, or walk around in a poorly ventilated, muggy, and smokey FKK club?

FKK clubs will be branded as "super-spreaders" and won't be reopening any time soon, mark my words!

By the way my track record isn't bad;.

*) I predicted last year that the reopening of FKK clubs would be very short-lived and by September-October all clubs were closed again and Germany entered a full lockdown in November.

*) I predicted that there will be more and more vaccine-resistant mutations and lots of problems surrounding the hastily manufactured "vaccines. " South Africa has already stopped AstraZeneca because it's useless against the South African strain, and a whole bunch of other countries have stopped or limited the use of the Johnson & Johnson and AstraZeneca vaccines. In Germany, more and more fully VACCINATED people are showing up in hospitals with a Covid19 test result.

*) I already predicted in Jan-Feb that lockdowns in Germany are getting tougher, instead of more relaxed. Needless to say, since a week, Germany even has a 10 pm -5 am curfew.

*) and I predicted this year to forget about any reopening, despite all the naive and vaccinated fanboys here were cheering for a May 1st reopening.

Merkel passed a new law a few weeks ago, basically giving the Federal Government in Berlin a free hand in imposing nationwide lockdowns, depending on the "Incident Value" which can easily be manipulated with either more or less testing.

I was in Germany recently for business and public life in Germany is dead! Hair dressers were allowed to reopen, but are closing again because of a total lack of customers because people refuse to spend an extra 6 Euros for a quick-test for a 15 Euro haircut. The same is true for bars and cafes, people refuse to pay 6 Euros for a silly and highly inaccurate bullshit quick-test in order to have a 2 Euro cup of coffee. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyWZTbtOc4s[/URL].

Russia Today is rapidly becoming like the Voice of America during the Cold War, except now the tables are turned. During the Cold War, the Soviet people were brainwashed by Pravda and had to illegally listen to Voice of America if they wanted to know what's going on. Nowadays, you have to watch [URL]RT.com[/URL] to know what's going on in Europe.

[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voice_of_America[/URL]#Cold_War.

Make sure to thank all the old-fart-babyboomers and scaremongers here for 'cancelling' our hobby! / sarc.

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2556554]3.2 million since Jan 2020, but one flu season is only 3-4 months.
What we see is a SCAMdemic and a PLANdemic where the regular flu has been re-labeled re-branded as "Covid19."[/QUOTE]Why are you constantly lying and skipping from an argument to another when proven wrong?

We showed you two reliable sources, covid vs flu in USA and covid vs flu worldwide. You said that mortality was roughly the same, in both cases it's a blatant lie.

Every time, there are obviously a lot more deaths from covid, not just +10 % but a LOT more. The death count for covid worldwide is clearly under estimated, just compare the excess mortality and the mortality related to covid in Russia and in all the other countries that you like so much.

For a 5 yo old boy, it's normal to lie from time to time. As the boy grows up and turns into a teenager, it becomes a source of concern. But for an adult that's pathetic.

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2556613]Russia Today is rapidly becoming like the Voice of America during the Cold War, except now the tables are turned. During the Cold War, the Soviet people were brainwashed by Pravda and had to illegally listen to Voice of America if they wanted to know what's going on. Nowadays, you have to watch [URL]RT.com[/URL] to know what's going on in Europe..[/QUOTE]What a joke.

Do you realize they're constantly sucking Putin's cock? There is zero critic on Russia in this propaganda. Do you read reliable newspapers sometime? In every country, you find medias who are not constantly praising the actions of their government.

I checked recently: they insist about Navalny being related to corruption, they advertise about their super vaccine and so on. Nothing about the accusations of poisoning if you like them so much, why you don't just take their super sputnik?

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2556613]Russia Today is rapidly becoming like the Voice of America during the Cold War, except now the tables are turned. During the Cold War, the Soviet people were brainwashed by Pravda and had to illegally listen to Voice of America if they wanted to know what's going on. Nowadays, you have to watch [URL]RT.com[/URL] to know what's going on in Europe.[/QUOTE]Wow, just wow. If for you Putin is a champion of truth and liberty, that tells me everything I need to know about you.

According to Reuters the number of cases and deaths in India related to covid is underreported by 5-10 times. Exactly like I already wrote here! Sounds like they have been doing their work well in analytics. Something a few ISG members are not so good at.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2556526]Good. Good. I can feel your anger. Let the Hate flow through you. -Emperor Palpatine.

Why I'm always happy: The best revenge is living a better life. Winning.[/QUOTE]Why would I have any anger? I am not the one who is in danger of getting Rabies.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2556514]You really have a problem with logic don't you? One case doesn't make one rule.

It's like your crappy figures about the side effects rate (and my screenshots by the way?[/QUOTE]Actually I admit I was trolling with South Dakota.

But my 8% is correct. Admin censored it when I tried to post the screenshots I had. Send me a PM and an e-mail address, and I will send them to you within a day or two!

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2556562]And we don't care about your opinion.

I understand that you have no interest in mongering but the rest of us are tired of you crying about how "dangerous" COVID-19 is.

You should try to post a trip report.[/QUOTE]No, [B]we[/B] don't care about [B]your[/B] opinion. Funny how you like to project, just like your idol Obese Orangeman. Did [B]you[/B] ever post a trip report?

[QUOTE=Turgid;2556602]We are in the era of new normals. 9/11 brought along more cumbersome restrictions in international travel. With covid 19 will come further inconveniences with respect to travel and entering establishments.[/QUOTE]This is a valid statement. But just as people continued to fly after 9/11, life will go on with covid. Inconvenience will be corona pass and vaccines.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2556608]That being said let it be known that there are many white Brazilian providers who have no percentage of any other race in them just like the general population.

I do now and have always liked 100% Caucasian women even though I do date other women. Nevertheless, my favorite destination of all time was not even in Europe, it was Argentina. However, disaster struck in around 2010 when the authorities decided to clamp down on p4p there. That affected me badly. No more abundant cheap beautiful white women; I then began to visit more often Brazil and Germany. One has to roll with the times.[/QUOTE]I am sure there are. But it is not a matter of 40% this and 50% that. It is more fluid.

From wikipedia:

According to a genetic study about Brazilians, on the paternal side, 98% of the White Brazilian why Chromosome comes from a European male ancestor, only 2% from an African ancestor and there is a complete absence of Amerindian contributions. On the maternal side, 39% have a European Mitochondrial DNA, 33% Amerindian and 28% African MtDNA.

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2556554]Those "3.2 million deaths" have been grossly pimped and manipulated[/QUOTE]Wait, you need to sync up with your colleague who says that covid deaths are seriously undercounted. What was his claim, 30 million covid deaths by end of 2021?

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2556614]Why are you constantly lying and skipping from an argument to another when proven wrong?

We showed you two reliable sources, covid vs flu in USA and covid vs flu worldwide. You said that mortality was roughly the same, in both cases it's a blatant lie.

Every time, there are obviously a lot more deaths from covid, not just +10 % but a LOT more. The death count for covid worldwide is clearly under estimated, just compare the excess mortality and the mortality related to covid in Russia and in all the other countries that you like so much.

For a 5 yo old boy, it's normal to lie from time to time. As the boy grows up and turns into a teenager, it becomes a source of concern. But for an adult that's pathetic.[/QUOTE]Saw his list of things he "predicted correctly. " To be fair, of the three people I'm thinking of regarding misinformation he's the least outlandish of them all. (I'm not even counting your two elder countrymen. They merely just regurgitate talking points in popular media headlines.) While it sets a low bar, he consistently gets it right that German authorities have recently been extending restrictions perhaps a bit too conservatively.

Things he has been proven wrong:

-Unlike other vaccinated diseases, covid is too fast mutating to vaccinate. It's amongst the slower ones.

-Hot temperatures will cause less spread and we're all doomed when it's cold again. Not entirely disproved but the heat in Brazil, India, and Turkey suggests that temperature is not the ultimate predictor.

-Masks don't work. More careful analysis of his Dakotas comparison shows that simple masks has significant effects on transmission reduction.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2556506]I like 75 percent of the color spectrum, so long as there is not an inch of belly fat or jiggle in the butt. A little softness in the belly is okay but if I see even a tiny belly roll, it's likely a no-go. Likewise, big butts are okay for me, but there is a difference between a bouncy butt and a jiggly butt.[/QUOTE]Romania has the slimmest adult population in Europe.

[QUOTE]The share of obesity among the population aged over 18 in Romania was 9.4%, in 2014, compared to an EU average of 15.9%.

[URL]https://www.romania-insider.com/eurostat-romania-least-obese-country-eu/[/URL]
[/QUOTE]Brazilian men, in general, may like more meat on the bones, and this may reduce the pressure for Brazilian women to maintain a thin figure. In any cases, Brazil's waistline has been expanding over the last two decades. At the provided link, there are charts that break down Brazilian obesity rate by sex and by age separately, but not one that gives you say the 18-30 yo slice for women. Ofc, one would also want to know the difference between WG and civilian women, but I doubt any government figures would dive into that amount of specificity.

[QUOTE]Obesity among persons aged 20 and over increased from 12.2% to 26.8% between 2002/2003 and 2019.

Approximately one third of the persons aged 18 to 24 were overweight and among those aged 40 to 59, 70.3%.

[URL]https://agenciadenoticias.ibge.gov.br/en/agencia-news/2184-news-agency/news/29208-one-out-of-every-adults-in-brazil-were-obese-in-2019-and-primary-health-care-was-positively-evaluated#:~:text=The%20percentage%20of%20obese%20adults,thirds%20of%20the%20Brazilian%20population.[/URL].[/QUOTE]Cane, I would also add that some mongers have an extreme preference for WGs who are 18-22 or even look younger. So you may have to direct them to where the newbie, fresh-off-the-bus WGs work, the ones who still might possess the teeny body. I suspect that would reduce the average English proficiency, which is not that high to begin with. Would it be fair to say that the termas are for the more polished WGs who have been in the business longer?

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2556613]Munich cancelled the Oktoberfest again (just like last year) so this shows you how much 'confidence' the politicians have in the effectiveness of the "vaccine" and those bullshit 'fast-tests.'[/QUOTE]Aaand just in time, Bayern announces less restrictions for vaccinated people. [URL]https://www.br.de/nachrichten/bayern/bayerns-corona-lockerungen-im-ueberblick-gastro-hotels-schulen[/URL], SWRv7 Mz.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2556516]Alternatively, Paraguay posed a completely opposite scenario. In 1814, after gaining independence from Spain, the country's new dictator actually passed a law banning European people from marrying each other. By law, Europeans had to marry Mestizos, Africans, or native people. This is one of the most unrecognized example of blatant racial social engineering that most people never heard of. As a result, Paraguay is one of the most genetically homogenous populations in the world. On the spectrum of race, it is the complete opposite of racially homogenous societies like Japan and the Scandinavian stereotype.[/QUOTE]Brazil encouraged miscegenation. Importing white Catholic Europeans (Spain, Portugal, Italian) and encouraging them to mix with the black population to "whiten" them. At some point the Italians stopped coming so then they "settled" for Japanese.

[QUOTE]Racial whitening, or "whitening" (branqueamento), is an ideology that was widely accepted in Brazil between 1889 and 1914, as the solution to the "Negro problem." However, racial whitening specific to Brazil also encompasses the perception of individuals as being white in relation to their position in the class system. Supporters of the Whitening ideology believed that the Negro race would advance culturally and genetically, or even disappear totally, within several generations of mixed breeding between white people and black people. This ideology gained its support from two scientific racism beliefs that were prominent during this time. One being social Darwinism, which applied Darwin's theory of natural selection to a society or race, and the other being Aryanism, the belief that the "white" "Aryan" race was superior to all other cultures. By combining these two ideas, the white elites of the time believed that because "white" blood was superior it would inevitably "whiten" the inferior races' blood.[/QUOTE]Brazil already had a mixed-class at the time slavery was abolished because the Portuguese in Brazil was not settled by families but men, so invariably they sowed their seed with the Black and indigenous populations.

By world renown scientist John Ioannidis:

[URL]https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.07.22.20160341v3.full-text[/URL]

[QUOTE]Results While model 1 found that lockdown was the most effective measure in the original 11 countries, model 2 showed that lockdown had little or no benefit as it was typically introduced at a point when the time-varying reproductive number was already very low. Model 3 found that the simple banning of public events was beneficial, while lockdown had no consistent impact. Based on Bayesian metrics, model 2 was better supported by the data than either model 1 or model 3 for both time horizons.

Conclusions Inferences on effects of NPIs are non-robust and highly sensitive to model specification. [u]Claimed benefits of lockdown appear grossly exaggerated.[/u][/QUOTE]Emphasis mine.

"Trust the science" is basically another term for "trust the propaganda" because TRUE scientists are also willing to listen to counter-arguments! With Covid1984, all other arguments that deviate from the WEF / Global Elite's Great Reset Agenda are either banned, censored, shadow-banned and-or ignored by the mainstream media. What do they have to hide?

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2556614]Why are you constantly lying and skipping from an argument to another when proven wrong?

We showed you two reliable sources, covid vs flu in USA and covid vs flu worldwide. You said that mortality was roughly the same, in both cases it's a blatant lie.

Every time, there are obviously a lot more deaths from covid, not just +10 % but a LOT more. The death count for covid worldwide is clearly under estimated, just compare the excess mortality and the mortality related to covid in Russia and in all the other countries that you like so much.

For a 5 yo old boy, it's normal to lie from time to time. As the boy grows up and turns into a teenager, it becomes a source of concern. But for an adult that's pathetic.[/QUOTE]It's hilarious to see the big troll accusing others of lying considering his absurd lies about Sweden having a lockdown because "the museums were closed".

COVID-19 only kills the old, weak, fat, already sick and extremely unlucky. It's obvious that people should have been allowed to make their own decisions. I only got one life and I'm not going to put in hold because of some stupid and afraid fascists.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2556547]I'm happy to see many ISG "lurkers" (no insult) besides our predictable cast coming out to contest the misinformation. I think it reflects the air of optimism, showing that people are becoming more confident about the future.

I follow the American politics thread and laugh out loud every time I see the admin censoring ShooBree, citing "useless waste of bandwidth. " Hilarious every time. Sadly that pushes him over here to get his trolling fix. It's okay though, momentum is on the side of good.[/QUOTE]You're not only a loser and a pathetic troll, you're also an enemy of democracy and free speech.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2556514]You really have a problem with logic don't you? One case doesn't make one rule.

It's like your crappy figures about the side effects rate (and my screenshots by the way?[/QUOTE]Aren't you the guy who didn't know the difference between millions and billions? Yes, you're! LMFAO!

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2556613]Exactly, so even if you manage to get on a plane to Europe, count on standing outside before the closed door of an FKK club, even with your "vaccination" card and your face masks in hand, and your tracking apps installed on your phone.

Munich cancelled the Oktoberfest again (just like last year) so this shows you how much 'confidence' the politicians have in the effectiveness of the "vaccine" and those bullshit 'fast-tests.'

If you can't be with other people in a tent drinking beer because of the "pandemic," then how can you be lying on top of a WG and fuck her, or walk around in a poorly ventilated, muggy, and smokey FKK club?

FKK clubs will be branded as "super-spreaders" and won't be reopening any time soon, mark my words!

By the way my track record isn't bad;.

*) I predicted last year that the reopening of FKK clubs would be very short-lived and by September-October all clubs were closed again and Germany entered a full lockdown in November.

*) I predicted that there will be more and more vaccine-resistant mutations and lots of problems surrounding the hastily manufactured "vaccines. " South Africa has already stopped AstraZeneca because it's useless against the South African strain, and a whole bunch of other countries have stopped or limited the use of the Johnson & Johnson and AstraZeneca vaccines. In Germany, more and more fully VACCINATED people are showing up in hospitals with a Covid19 test result.[/QUOTE]It's obvious that politicians are not interested in getting life back to normal. They should go to jail for their crimes against the people.

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2556554]3.2 million since Jan 2020, but one flu season is only 3-4 months.[/QUOTE]I'm probably losing my time but whatever.

Since the 2010-2011 season, the estimated number of deaths from flu in United States has varied from 12,000 a year (2011-2012) to 61,000 a year (2017-2018).

From November the 25th of 2020 to February (3 months during which the scamdemic has been very efficient), the 25th of 2021 (3 months no? Close to 250,000 deaths in USA.

250,000/61,000 equals roughly 4. 250,000/12,000 equals roughly 20. Evolution of USA population from 2010 to 2020 : x1,07.

Your conclusion: roughly the same mortality.

What kind of numeral system are you using? A Babylonian - Egyptian hybrid, where 4 or 20 are close to 1 ?

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2556619]Wow, just wow. If for you Putin is a champion of truth and liberty, that tells me everything I need to know about you.[/QUOTE]The guy is totally obsessed about CCCP and he elaborated some fucked up theory about Merkel being a Stasi agent.

And what do you find on his idol Vlad's official page? [URL]http://en.putin.kremlin.ru/bio/page-3[/URL].

KGB! We all know that they were champions of freedom, in this nice little boys club.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2556490]You yourself said that you once were over 100 km / h over the speed limit in Germany. And you yourself say now that you are incapable to stay in your lance hence you can't control your car. Either you are lying like you are most of the time or it's just dumb luck that you survived so far.[/QUOTE]Yes, only very small overspeed only on radar flashes in Switzerland lead to jail when no proof about driver, when German polizei don't put you in jail when they catch and arrest you at more than 200 for 100 , on autobahn of course, and with 0 for alcohol as always. My real data are around 90 000 kms per year, most often at night, as often as possible full speed, for no crash, and I look forward when returning to Germany, for kickdown to push to limit of the car. If I go to see my past beloved RS500 Cosworth, maybe will Mustang Shelby to make breathe V8 and listen to engine noise. Did you ever go downhill on narrow tires bicycle at 70 km / h? To feel real sensations, more than at 250 on German autobahns.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2556619]Wow, just wow. If for you Putin is a champion of truth and liberty, that tells me everything I need to know about you.[/QUOTE]You can stick to all the usual corporate propaganda sites like CNBC, CNN, the NYT and the WP and your illusion of "freedom," "truth" and "choice. " LOL!

[URL]https://www.businessinsider.com/these-6-corporations-control-90-of-the-media-in-america-2012-6?r=US&IR=T[/URL]

[QUOTE=RockyV;2556550]UK study has shown that 1 dose of vaccine cuts the risk of transmission by 50%. So vaccinated people with two doses are significantly less likely to transmit the virus.[/QUOTE]After last Summer and Christmas experiences, if EU don't ask for negative tests just on arrival, more than vaccine, then Autumn will be complicated for France, Italy, Spain, maybe also Greece, which are the most attractive to spend holidays, like was on previous Autumn, and now with UK mutant which is now the main killer and even in India. I don't worry for me, but for how long weak will be protected by vaccine and versus mutants? I don't think we can trust much be. Johnson for honesty and his dead meat sentence, no comment.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2556401]Have you ever seen a side by side comparison of a flu-pneumonia chest xray versus a covid-ARDS chest xray?

Here are sample xrays. Normal chest xray attached. One tip, white in the airspace on a chest xray is not very good.

The COVID one isn't even from an intubated patient on a ventilator.[/QUOTE]Thought I could get away from covid scaremongering and you trot by. 😡.

[QUOTE=LukasFlirt;2556715]Thought I could get away from covid scaremongering and you trot by. 😡.[/QUOTE]Hi,

I live here. Welcome. Nice to meet you.

It's just the facts. Scared is a personal feeling. I'm not scared. You shouldn't be either. Enjoy your stay.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2556604]Most of the girls you meet won't speak English, but you will invariably run into some that do. For those who don't, if you can speak Spanish, that will aid you greatly, since if you speak it slowly enough most will understand you (even if they say they don't speak Spanish). But just don't walk up to a Brazilian person and start jabbering away in Spanish expecting them to understand you. That's just plain rude. They speak Portuguese, which is something close to Spanish, but obviously not the same. Now, I've never had a major problem communicating. Between what Portuguese I know, and between what English and Spanish they know (plus the indispensable Google Translate app), I've been fine. Brazilian people tend to be patient and friendly and willing to work with you if you show the same. That's not always true with respect to other peoples and cultures I have experienced around the world.[/QUOTE]Thank you! Sounds like communication will be a little tougher than at the other typical mongering destinations but easily doable. Should be worth it.

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2556707]You can stick to all the usual corporate propaganda sites like CNBC, CNN, the NYT and the WP and your illusion of "freedom," "truth" and "choice. " LOL!

[URL]https://www.businessinsider.com/these-6-corporations-control-90-of-the-media-in-america-2012-6?r=US&IR=T[/URL][/QUOTE]The irony of this comment then to just turn around and quote business insider. I wonder which of the above is their parent company?

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2556690]You're not only a loser and a pathetic troll, you're also an enemy of democracy and free speech.[/QUOTE]I love my freedom and encourage an open society where people are free to succeed or fail. Lowers the bar and sure does make it easier for me. Thank you for keeping the average low. Also, please continue to enjoy your free speech. Just respect mine to criticize.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2556714]Many here are repeating internet data, when I prefer information's from French journalists or doctors. Also good point to be able to think with own brain, not just to be a follower. I'm not a good sheep.[/QUOTE]French docs were the first to say Hydroxychloroquine works after showing results in a test tube. I can also put mercury in a test tube and kill a lot of things.

[URL]https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/12/covid-professor-didier-raoult-hydroxychloroquine[/URL]

[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2556721]On the other hand, doctors do not allocate the time or attempt to fix the underlying lifestyle error, and that in turn is because of a warped payment scheme that encourages short consults.

Doctors work hard, some specialists extremely so, and training is high stress slave labor. But so are many other occupations. Most are well meaning. Most manage to avoid becoming cynical and mercantile. But it is also an industry and has the most influence to educate and change and also enjoys information asymmetry on options it often has a financial interest in steering[/QUOTE]Oh, and way to criticize the most poorly compensated specialty for price gouging. You might want to also talk about the million dollar paper pushing CEOs.

Thanks for bringing up slave labor. Because, after graduation, after accruing 6 figures in medical debt, MDs earn about $60 K per year for 3-7 years working 80 hour weeks. That amounts to about $16 per hour before taxes. Oh and student loan payments also become due during this time.

Finally this information asymmetry crap has been brought up here before. But wait, during this pandemic Joe WebMD knows that vaccines are poisons because his nurse sister in Law who works at a plastic surgeon's office said so. Pffft.

There is no secret medical stockpile of information. Anyone is free to read up and take the time to learn the same info we do. Just go get some baseline knowledge first and somehow put it together without killing yourself. UpToDate is what the profession uses to keep up with newest interventions and guidelines or refresh on old knowledge. We have to pay for that service just as you have to. No hidden / secret hoarding of medical information. It's all there.

Happy reading:

[URL]https://www.uptodate.com/login[/URL]

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2556706]Yes, only very small overspeed only on radar flashes in Switzerland lead to jail when no proof about driver, when German polizei don't put you in jail when they catch and arrest you at more than 200 for 100 , on autobahn of course, and with 0 for alcohol as always. My real data are around 90 000 kms per year, most often at night, as often as possible full speed, for no crash, and I look forward when returning to Germany, for kickdown to push to limit of the car. If I go to see my past beloved RS500 Cosworth, maybe will Mustang Shelby to make breathe V8 and listen to engine noise. Did you ever go downhill on narrow tires bicycle at 70 km / h? To feel real sensations, more than at 250 on German autobahns.[/QUOTE]Here we go again. You got caught speeding and everything was done according to the law. Everything you say is demonstrably false. Instead of stroking yourself while you think of your delusions, maybe take care next time to not let hookers scam you out of 15 k Euros.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2556712]After last Summer and Christmas experiences, if EU don't ask for negative tests just on arrival, more than vaccine, then Autumn will be complicated for France, Italy, Spain, maybe also Greece, which are the most attractive to spend holidays, like was on previous Autumn, and now with UK mutant which is now the main killer and even in India. I don't worry for me, but for how long weak will be protected by vaccine and versus mutants? I don't think we can trust much be. Johnson for honesty and his dead meat sentence, no comment.[/QUOTE]One big difference to last year, that is vaccines. Countries where vaccination rates are highest (UK, Israel, US) show a significant drop in infection rates. Plenty of studies show that. If only people would be willing to read instead of repeating unproven claims ad-nauseam the world would be a better place. If it will take longer for countries to reopen, is only because there are too many anti-vaxxers.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2556622]According to Reuters the number of cases and deaths in India related to covid is underreported by 5-10 times. Exactly like I already wrote here! Sounds like they have been doing their work well in analytics. Something a few ISG members are not so good at.[/QUOTE]You and HT need to sync up. You say covid deaths are seriously underreported, he claims exactly the opposite.

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2556707]You can stick to all the usual corporate propaganda sites like CNBC, CNN, the NYT and the WP and your illusion of "freedom," "truth" and "choice. " LOL!

[URL]https://www.businessinsider.com/these-6-corporations-control-90-of-the-media-in-america-2012-6?r=US&IR=T[/URL][/QUOTE]Well with RT you know exactly who's mouthpiece they are. Big daddy Volodya Putin, riding on a Russian bear with an AK in each hand is your hero. So, since you are against all these new vaccines, what do you think about Sputnik V? You can go and enjoy your freedom in Russia. Just don't make the wrong joke with the wrong people or you end up in Norilsk.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2556714]Many here are repeating internet data, when I prefer information's from French journalists or doctors. Also good point to be able to think with own brain, not just to be a follower. I'm not a good sheep.[/QUOTE]Feel free to quote non-Internet sources. You know, journal X, published on day why, on page z. Otherwise people might believe that you just make things up.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2556746]The irony of this comment then to just turn around and quote business insider. I wonder which of the above is their parent company?[/QUOTE]There's actually a very simple solution but libtards (and some right wing folks too) won't like it. FCC (and equivalent govt agency in each country) should ask a simple yes / no question if the news agency supports any political party. If they say yes, take the license away, and force them to show clearly that they are affiliated to or supporter of that political party. If they say no, any violation should be fined $10 mm per occurrence, and 3 strikes and you lose business license. This will fix the problems of all biased so called "news media", both right and left wing, and we can finally start seeing unbiased news.

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2556670]By world renown scientist John Ioannidis:

[URL]https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.07.22.20160341v3.full-text[/URL]

Emphasis mine.

"Trust the science" is basically another term for "trust the propaganda" because TRUE scientists are also willing to listen to counter-arguments! With Covid1984, all other arguments that deviate from the WEF / Global Elite's Great Reset Agenda are either banned, censored, shadow-banned and-or ignored by the mainstream media. What do they have to hide?[/QUOTE]Another instance of not reading your own source. As such, you always seem to counter your own position with your own sources.

True scientists also read the entire papers. It didn't seem like you made it past the abstract. The paper explicitly states that they compared mobility data for only the USA and made their conclusion based on mobility reduction data at a time when infection numbers were already low. So of course the effectiveness of lockdowns were less than compared to the European initial lockdown where the data said that lockdowns produced the most effective results.

Furthermore the discussion states:

[QUOTE]Another modeling approach has found that benefits can be reaped by simple self-imposed interventions such as washing hands, [b]wearing masks[/b], and some social distancing[/QUOTE]So pick something to fight for. You don't like these vaccines. You don't like lockdowns. You don't like masks. Well guess what, no one does. But going against all of them when your own sources have repetitively validated each individual one separately just paints you as a contrarian, standing for nothing. Your only conviction seems to just be a nihilist and complainer.

Not a single person this past year, public figure or individual got everything right. But at least many are trying. You on the other hand have fought every single intervention along the way. Nothing seems to be good enough for you, like a baby crying incessantly until he gets his pacifier. Have some conviction, recognize when you said something erroneous, and lastly, actually read your articles beyond the one line that fits your argument.

I've recognized that you're not as crazy as Pistons and actually push thought forward more than Shoo. All you have to do is pick one thing to be objective about. Hell, just admit one thing you said that turned out to be false.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2556746]The irony of this comment then to just turn around and quote business insider. I wonder which of the above is their parent company?[/QUOTE]You're talking to a guy who thinks that Russia today is reliable. He could subscribe to the magazines published by AL qaeada and Isis, I'm sure he would love their 'non mainstream media' views of the world.

According to Wikipedia, Business insider is owned by the Axel Springer group who is owned in majority by KKR. No idea what KKR is, but it seems like it's a massive corporation.

Whatever it is regarding gene mixture in Latin America, it is an interesting experiment on how women turn out. I just wish there was a tropical island dedicated to sex on the beach or on beach beds with 1 million girls from all over the world and of all varieties. Of course all being 8+ looks wise! Diversity is still key!

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2556752]French docs were the first to say Hydroxychloroquine works after showing results in a test tube. I can also put mercury in a test tube and kill a lot of things.

[URL]https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/12/covid-professor-didier-raoult-hydroxychloroquine[/URL][/QUOTE]Doctor Raoult is not whole French medical but only one who tried to reach the fame light, but he was not followed, when chloroquine was forbidden by French medical to cure covid. Real French facts. I prefer to trust French medical, but keeping on thinking by myself, rather than just repeating internet with all fakes, when not being able to check data reliability. I think we should all agree about real catastrophe in India which is 20% of world population, talking and scared about new Indian mutant, when in real fact, India is killed by UK mutant for 80% cases and unfortunately poverty also. Why so many deaths in so powerful US, with also poverty for many and 40% US are obese, meaning even more are fat. But I always agreed vaccine is useful to protect weak: old, obese, diabetic, lungs or heart problems, asthm, not healthy, for less deaths when already more than 3 millions and probably much more when Russia have 460000 more deaths than on previous year, how did they die? In Ukraine which is killed by Putin? But some vaccined fell positive to covid and French medical telling they can still give to others. I wish EU will be careful to protect citizens, despite need of tourism, when I didn't blame any country to close borders, to try to protect, much more important for me than risky playfield brothels. US should be allowed in EU for this Summer, but more safe with negative test on arrival. My thinking, even I don't worry much for me about covid.

And with plenty of good food, aphrodisiacs and fruits on the trees inside from the wide beaches. And bungalows going far out into the sea. As well as big air conditioned gyms so the girls can stay fit along the beach road where t-shirts or tops / bras are not allowed.

I am a simple guy. That is all I need.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2556706]Yes, only very small overspeed only on radar flashes in Switzerland[/QUOTE]Remember when you were arguing that you didn't overspeed? The problem with lying and making things up is that you have to always remember what your story is.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2556712]After last Summer and Christmas experiences, if EU don't ask for negative tests just on arrival.[/QUOTE]You don't have to worry, negative tests will be required. For people that are not vaccinated that is.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2556746]The irony of this comment then to just turn around and quote business insider. I wonder which of the above is their parent company?[/QUOTE]Yes, the propaganda is so blatant and 'in-your-face' that the corporate media cartel freely admit that they control everything, and yet most people are still too stupid and brainwashed to realize it! LOL!

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2556746]The irony of this comment then to just turn around and quote business insider. I wonder which of the above is their parent company?[/QUOTE]Yes, the propaganda is so blatant and 'in-your-face' that the corporate media cartel freely admit that they control everything, and yet most people are still too stupid and brainwashed to realize it! LOL!

[QUOTE=RockyV;2556550]UK study has shown that 1 dose of vaccine cuts the risk of transmission by 50%. So vaccinated people with two doses are significantly less likely to transmit the virus.[/QUOTE]Let's review the CDC's key points regarding the 'vaccine' and let's highlight the "shoulds' the 'coulds' the 'suggests' and the 'mays. ' LOL!

[URL]https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/science-briefs/fully-vaccinated-people.html[/URL]

Let me start with the real kicker:

[QUOTE] The risks of SARS-CoV-2 infection in fully vaccinated people cannot be completely eliminated as long as there is continued community transmission of the virus. Vaccinated people could potentially still get COVID-19 and spread it to others. [/QUOTE]Emphasis and comments (IN BOLD) mine:

[QUOTE]Key Points
* COVID-19 vaccines currently authorized in the United States are effective against COVID-19, including severe disease. ("ARE EFFECTIVE?" SEE DISCLAIMERS BELOW)

* Preliminary evidence (SUGGESTS) that the currently authorized COVID-19 vaccines (MAY) provide (SOME) protection against a variety of strains, including B.1.1.7 (originally identified in the United Kingdom). Reduced antibody neutralization and efficacy have been observed for the B.1.351 strain (originally identified in South Africa). However, across studies, antibody neutralizing activity of sera from vaccinated people was still generally higher than that observed for convalescent sera from people who have recovered from COVID-19. ("MAY PROVIDE SOME PROTECTION" TRANSLATION: WE HOPE IT WORKS)

* A growing body of evidence (SUGGESTS) that fully vaccinated people are less likely to have asymptomatic infection and potentially less likely to transmit SARS-CoV-2 to others. However, further investigation is ongoing. (TRANSLATION: WE HOPE, BUT WE'RE NOT SURE BECAUSE WE STILL NEED MORE INVESTIGATION)

* Modeling studies (SUGGESTS) that preventive measures such as mask use and social distancing will continue to be important during vaccine implementation. However, there are ways to take a balanced approach by allowing vaccinated people to resume some lower-risk activities. ("SOME LOWER-RISK ACTIVITIES?" SO 5,5 FEET SOCIAL DISTANCING INSTEAD OF 6 FEET?)

* Taking steps towards relaxing certain measures for vaccinated people (MAY) help improve COVID-19 vaccine acceptance and uptake. (HAHAHA, THIS IS COMPLETE BULLSHIT AND BLACKMAIL!)

* The risks of SARS-CoV-2 infection in fully vaccinated people (CANNOT BE COMPLETELY ELIMINATED) as long as there is continued community transmission of the virus. Vaccinated people (COULD) potentially still get COVID-19 and spread it to others. However, the benefits of relaxing some measures such as testing and self-quarantine requirements for travelers, post-exposure quarantine requirements and reducing social isolation (MAY) outweigh the residual risk of fully vaccinated people becoming ill with COVID-19 or transmitting the virus to others. (TRANSLATION: WE SIMPLY DON'T KNOW ANYTHING AND LEAVE THE DOOR WIDE OPEN TO DENY ALL OUR 'CLAIMS.')

* At this time, (THERE ARE LIMITED DATA) on vaccine protection in people who are immunocompromised. People with immunocompromising conditions, including those taking immunosuppressive medications, (SHOULD) discuss the need for personal protective measures after vaccination with their healthcare provider. (TRANSLATION: GOOD LUCK, YOU'RE ON YOUR OWN!)

* See updated guidance for fully vaccinated people including updated public health recommendations for domestic and international travel. This updated science brief reflects recent changes to the guidance document and will continue to be updated as more information becomes available.[/QUOTE]In other news: my psychic tarot card reading friend today suggested that I could buy a lotto ticket today because I should or may win the lotto jackpot tonight if the stars align in the right way! LOL!

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2556613]Exactly, so even if you manage to get on a plane to Europe, count on standing outside before the closed door of an FKK club....[/QUOTE]Be aware that when those doors reopen in Hesse I will be right there waiting to enter.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2556804]According to Wikipedia, Business insider is owned by the Axel Springer group who is owned in majority by KKR. No idea what KKR is, but it seems like it's a massive corporation.[/QUOTE]KKR is private equity firm. Definitely socialist.

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2556851]Let's review the CDC's key points regarding the 'vaccine' and let's highlight the "shoulds' the 'coulds' the 'suggests' and the 'mays. ' LOL!

[URL]https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/science-briefs/fully-vaccinated-people.html[/URL]

Let me start with the real kicker:

Emphasis and comments (IN BOLD) mine:

In other news: my psychic tarot card reading friend today suggested that I could buy a lotto ticket today because I should or may win the lotto jackpot tonight if the stars align in the right way! LOL![/QUOTE]In Science knowledge evolves with the availability of data, so I'm afraid you will see a lot of should, could and ifs in scientific reports. A more recent research has addressed the issue of transmission in vaccinated people: [URL]https://www.gov.uk/government/news/one-dose-of-covid-19-vaccine-can-cut-household-transmission-by-up-to-half[/URL].

Have a read!

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2556905]KKR is private equity firm. Definitely socialist.[/QUOTE]They are called "Champagne Socialists" in English: people who shamelessly fill their pockets while talking the 'woke leftwing socialist talk. ' You're probably one of them! LOL! [URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Champagne_socialist[/URL].

The good old Soviet Union and the communist DDR was full of them: politburo members living a life in luxury with chauffeured ZIL limousines, beautiful dachas, and being able to buy luxury (mostly Western) goods in special shops, while the Proletariate had to stand in line for hours in order to get a loaf of bread.

[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intershop[/URL]

But not to worry, Feldwebel Klaus Schwab will solve all those Central Planning problems, and I'm sure that "this time it will be different. " LOL!

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2556774]Feel free to quote non-Internet sources. You know, journal X, published on day why, on page z. Otherwise people might believe that you just make things up.[/QUOTE]I have so many followers like your obsessed bald fat French here with his carbon bike but I m sure too heavy to perform on climbings, reading all of me since 2012/2013, really obsessed, when I think you are near to nothing on this forum, so I don't need you believe my writings, just don't read me, but don't forget my invitation for Gran San Bernardino on August, land of only truth there and expensive light carbon won't climb for you. There Newton decide, but not for bicycle. I wish to go to Tignes for Summer ski, maybe Breuil. It for Klein Matterhorn, and start my climbings on end of June. I love my sports. And you?

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2556770]One big difference to last year, that is vaccines. Countries where vaccination rates are highest (UK, Israel, US) show a significant drop in infection rates. Plenty of studies show that. If only people would be willing to read instead of repeating unproven claims ad-nauseam the world would be a better place. If it will take longer for countries to reopen, is only because there are too many anti-vaxxers.[/QUOTE]If you were really able to read and understand, you would know I m not against vaccine and I m the most generous giving my turn to those who need more than me, because they are scared, or weak. For sure vaccine mean more people being protected and less deaths, but some vaccined fell positive and can spread, just ask Swiss doctors, but if you are so sure no more spreading and no more mutants, time will say, where warmer now, but wet cold will return on Autumn after holidays.

Maybe I should have written I m lighter than Sagan, when fit mean slim for me, what he is not, nor a climber. But I know guy on bicycle is more efficient than bicycle.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2556817]You don't have to worry, negative tests will be required. For people that are not vaccinated that is.[/QUOTE]I wish EU will ask for negative test for each non EU, even vaccined, on arrival, for EU citizens safety, when you are not EU and we experienced enough from UK, with Johnson not respecting agreements, like about vaccines. This is not worry for me when I didn't change my life, just became more complicated, under covid.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2556763]Here we go again. You got caught speeding and everything was done according to the law. Everything you say is demonstrably false. Instead of stroking yourself while you think of your delusions, maybe take care next time to not let hookers scam you out of 15 k Euros.[/QUOTE]I was never caught over speeding in Switzerland. You just don't understand the meaning of words. I was caught in Germany or France. You are just one more bullshitting follower, not more, when you don't know anything, just repeating, like what you read on internet.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2556432]What is the Internet? Trusted organizations publish data on the internet. Scientists publish research in a journal accessed via the internet. The internet is also used as a place for professionals to come together and share ideas, discoveries, facts and construct a plan of action. The "internet" is what you take from it. Trust bullshit sources, get bullshit information. But knowing your source and which ones are objective, verifiable, and dependable allows you to extract accurate information and DATA more offen than not.

To trust journalists more than data is trusting that sensationalism and opinion is never part of a report. They are by definition, second-hand sources. Meanwhile, published data in research and statistics journals are actually primary sources. Or sometimes people only retain the information that they want to believe.

If you were medical personnel, you might know that western physicians are at the core, scientifically trained. As such most physicians will not make declarations without knowing most of the data. The nature of the profession prepares most physicians to speak with conservative tendencies, at least when speaking when in the professional role. As such, a physician's statements will most often veer on the side of the worst possible scenario considering the facts given. However, that will often not mean the most likely scenario. In private, most healthcare providers in developed nations are optimistic about the near future. However, public speech is usually more reserved and conservative in the forecast. In addition, accuracy and precision of your words are of utmost importance. Instead of saying that "a procedure is safe" your mother will live, one would say the risks are relatively low and statistics suggests a favorable outcome. Even that last bit is questionable.[/QUOTE]Do you check all your internet date reliability before repeating? Where is your free mind? I love when formula 1 pilots say to their engineer on computer: don't talk to me, I love Kimi for this.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2556771]You and HT need to sync up. You say covid deaths are seriously underreported, he claims exactly the opposite.[/QUOTE]I can only write for myself. There is no conspiracy here. I am an open book. Like the nurse already told you guys, I am an expert in media and information. And I know that Machiavellianism is dead, and a thing of the past. Honesty rules.

The wannabe medical specialists might think they are telling the truth, but when I highlight quantum biology for example, a response I get is: "that is interesting. Let's keep an eye out for it. But right now, we cannot look at it. So you just have to take your poison and die". Something along those lines at least.

I will let the smart ones here analyze everything that is wrong with such stance!

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2556816]The problem with lying and making things up is that you have to always remember what your story is.[/QUOTE]Some people just repeat the lie, and replay it over and over again until the story becomes "true". If one is emotionally invested enough and desperate enough to believe something, one could convince themselves of anything. No amount of logic will dissuade them. In the age of social media, the one who repeats the loudest can control the narrative.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2556966]I have so many followers like your obsessed bald fat French here with his carbon bike but I m sure too heavy to perform on climbings, reading all of me since 2012/2013, really obsessed, when I think you are near to nothing on this forum, so I don't need you believe my writings, just don't read me, but don't forget my invitation for Gran San Bernardino on August, land of only truth there and expensive light carbon won't climb for you. There Newton decide, but not for bicycle. I wish to go to Tignes for Summer ski, maybe Breuil. It for Klein Matterhorn, and start my climbings on end of June. I love my sports. And you?[/QUOTE]Got it, you have no sources, all is made up, hence you deflect.

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2556963]They are called "Champagne Socialists" in English: people who shamelessly fill their pockets while talking the 'woke leftwing socialist talk. ' You're probably one of them! LOL! [URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Champagne_socialist[/URL].

The good old Soviet Union and the communist DDR was full of them: politburo members living a life in luxury with chauffeured ZIL limousines, beautiful dachas, and being able to buy luxury (mostly Western) goods in special shops, while the Proletariate had to stand in line for hours in order to get a loaf of bread.

[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intershop[/URL]

But not to worry, Feldwebel Klaus Schwab will solve all those Central Planning problems, and I'm sure that "this time it will be different. " LOL![/QUOTE]Did you figure out that Klaus Schwab has children in the meantime? You, the person who is always right. What about Bill Gates, does he have children?

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2556980]I was never caught over speeding in Switzerland. You just don't understand the meaning of words. I was caught in Germany or France. You are just one more bullshitting follower, not more, when you don't know anything, just repeating, like what you read on internet.[/QUOTE]Don't forget your story, I know it's difficult to keep it straight when you make things up. Buy a dictionary. Since you were sent a fine, by definition it means you were caught. Here is another hint, the person who makes up things is a bullshitter. Since you were proven wrong so many times, here is another hint, the bullshitter is you. If you don't like being called on your bullshit, stop bullshitting. Since you like to understand the meaning of words, here is something for you. Follower. A person who supports and admires a particular person or set of ideas. So, do you understand the meaning of words?

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2556975]Maybe I should have written I m lighter than Sagan, when fit mean slim for me [/QUOTE]Wait, is that you admitting you were wrong? So you agree that anorexic doesn't mean fit?

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2556966]so I don't need you believe my writings, just don't read me.[/QUOTE]I just perform a public service helping the casual reader understand who has credibility and who doesn't. Personally, I don't feel the need to write about myself how amazing and unique I am.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2556981]Do you check all your internet date reliability before repeating? Where is your free mind? I love when formula 1 pilots say to their engineer on computer: don't talk to me, I love Kimi for this.[/QUOTE]1. Yes.

2. I am not a formula one driver. Neither are you.

America is the Scandinavia of corporate welfare. They even run the government in a public-private deal, cash for access and convenient laws. KKR is very socialist to its owners and investors, lavishing huge pay in return for all sorts of rigged accounting, bullshit projections, stock watering, fake 13 F reports and planned strategic bankruptcy, usually to grab pension funds for redistribution the the needy, defined as the Board. But also to screw banks that in turn are not really owned by anyone and have a revolving door with friends, the chickens welcome in the fox! And a bit of inside trading! Yay!

This is why hertz went bankrupt and its stock rose. This is what lifters and creators, hard working and enterprising kleptocracy after the usual Wharton and McKinsey breeding ground where the most able slime rises. They are successful. All others are useless whiners.

[QUOTE=RockyV;2556925]In Science knowledge evolves with the availability of data, so I'm afraid you will see a lot of should, could and ifs in scientific reports. A more recent research has addressed the issue of transmission in vaccinated people: [URL]https://www.gov.uk/government/news/one-dose-of-covid-19-vaccine-can-cut-household-transmission-by-up-to-half[/URL].

Have a read![/QUOTE]Science cannot explain everything.

But conspiracy theories can.

[QUOTE=RockyV;2556925]Have a read![/QUOTE]Why don't you quote the relevant parts instead of sending people on a wild-goose chase?

[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2557070]America is the Scandinavia of corporate welfare. They even run the government in a public-private deal, cash for access and convenient laws. KKR is very socialist to its owners and investors, lavishing huge pay in return for all sorts of rigged accounting, bullshit projections, stock watering, fake 13 F reports and planned strategic bankruptcy, usually to grab pension funds for redistribution the the needy, defined as the Board. But also to screw banks that in turn are not really owned by anyone and have a revolving door with friends, the chickens welcome in the fox! And a bit of inside trading! Yay!

This is why hertz went bankrupt and its stock rose. This is what lifters and creators, hard working and enterprising kleptocracy after the usual Wharton and McKinsey breeding ground where the most able slime rises. They are successful. All others are useless whiners.[/QUOTE]You've been watching too much Keiser Report.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2557037]Got it, you have no sources, all is made up, hence you deflect.[/QUOTE]Legs will do the climbing. No regular training equals no legs. Absolute truth, Irrefutable.

[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2557070]America is the Scandinavia of corporate welfare. They even run the government in a public-private deal, cash for access and convenient laws. KKR is very socialist to its owners and investors, lavishing huge pay in return for all sorts of rigged accounting, bullshit projections, stock watering, fake 13 F reports and planned strategic bankruptcy, usually to grab pension funds for redistribution the the needy, defined as the Board. But also to screw banks that in turn are not really owned by anyone and have a revolving door with friends, the chickens welcome in the fox! And a bit of inside trading! Yay!

This is why hertz went bankrupt and its stock rose. This is what lifters and creators, hard working and enterprising kleptocracy after the usual Wharton and McKinsey breeding ground where the most able slime rises. They are successful. All others are useless whiners.[/QUOTE]Wow, Wharton / McKinsey bashing. You must be a Harvard to BCG or Bain guy LOL.

France to Open Borders for Vaccinated Tourists in May, Including Americans & Britons.

[URL]https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/news/france-to-open-borders-for-vaccinated-tourists-in-may-including-americans-britons/[/URL]

Macron doesn't listen to French doctors and facts?

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2557045]Wait, is that you admitting you were wrong? So you agree that anorexic doesn't mean fit?[/QUOTE]Anorexia like addiction like obesity are diseases. Fit mean slim for me, which is nothing anorexic, when each sporty making dynamic knows weight is the enemy, reason why Sagan is not a good climber. I think being fit help to be healthy and to resist to covid. Why to use a light carbon bicycle if You are heavy and with more than 70 kgs, then You are too heavy for really steep climbings I love, completely useless if You are not able on your bicycle potential. Same like Swiss snails driving cars I would push far beyond 300 km / h. I really regret You don t answer for my many times repeating invitation for Gran San Bernardino, I would even enter little China among EU for You, maybe my bicycle could be flashed going downhill. But no answer when will have to test the truth, when I will enjoy in swim suit and topless, to breathe and make my muscles breathe deep, no bullshit there, just You are able or not. Are you?

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2557178]Wow, Wharton / McKinsey bashing. You must be a Harvard to BCG or Bain guy LOL.[/QUOTE]Biochem drop out from what I remember. Somehow ended up "owning some data security company" with an NSA contract from his claims. Apparently the contract was worth tens / hundreds of millions.

But for some reason, was extremely concerned about the cost of a 500 euro repair when he scraped the compact-economy class rental car while driving *Forward* out of a parking garage. Was quite hilarious.

Sometimes it's fun to not say anything and just see how much bullshitters will bullshit.

So far from this forum, I've met a world champion cyclist / F1 driving Casa Nova, a Machiavellian communications expert / society manipulator with access to privilege social engineering plans, and here we have Fat Edward Snowden.

Building up quite a collection here.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2557053]1. Yes.

2. I am not a formula one driver. Neither are you.[/QUOTE]If somebody behind a computer told me what to do, I will answer like them: shut up. Now, bicycle racers do what their ear tell them, and it became so boring to watch them, when I remember Pantani starting in steep with double acceleration to kill others, or funny stories about Toledo eagle, Federico Bahamontes who has his picture on kilometer 4 in where you can't lie, Zoncolan. Pantani also has his picture just before 3 tunnels. Under dopping, he fell under cocaine, but he remains a real legend for Italians, when Stelvio from Prato is like church for Italians on week end. Look forward returning in this paradise for me.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2557019]Some people just repeat the lie, and replay it over and over again until the story becomes "true". If one is emotionally invested enough and desperate enough to believe something, one could convince themselves of anything. No amount of logic will dissuade them. In the age of social media, the one who repeats the loudest can control the narrative.[/QUOTE]Wasn't it true you told me on Summer 2015 at Sharks, wow beauty Karin told you she was Spanish and I answered you: I'm sure she is Romanian, and she told me after 1 minute, she is Romanian born. Same like German Lucifer, waiting for key with you, but going to another guy, already thinking about next after your fast room. I would have told her: go and stay with him. Not real facts?

The news isn't all doom & gloom despite what some say on this board:

Health experts "haven't seen any hint" of a Covid variant that can fully evade the effectiveness of vaccines, a leading scientist has said.

Sharon Peacock, head of the Covid-19 Genomics UK Consortium (COG-UK) and professor of public health and microbiology at the University of Cambridge, said it could be the case that coronavirus mutates to become less infectious. Though she warned it could take years for it to become like the common cold.

"We know that as mutations accumulate in the virus, it can actually make it more fit in terms of avoiding our immune system, but the more mutations it accumulates, it could actually lead to a virus that is less infectious, for example.

"Some people have predicted that a virus could emerge that is pretty resistant to vaccines, but we haven't seen any hint of that."

She continued: "And the idea that this could arise is based on models from previous viruses, not this current one, so at the moment, I remain optimistic that we're in a good place – that the viruses that are circulating are susceptible to vaccinations.

"And the key thing is to get on and vaccinate the world so that we can clamp down on disease. If we can reduce disease rates, then we reduce the risk of variants arising in the first place."

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2557043]Don't forget your story, I know it's difficult to keep it straight when you make things up. Buy a dictionary. Since you were sent a fine, by definition it means you were caught. Here is another hint, the person who makes up things is a bullshitter. Since you were proven wrong so many times, here is another hint, the bullshitter is you. If you don't like being called on your bullshit, stop bullshitting. Since you like to understand the meaning of words, here is something for you. Follower. A person who supports and admires a particular person or set of ideas. So, do you understand the meaning of words?[/QUOTE]When you seem much more performing for bullshitting than being able to understand what you read, once more and you can read again all my writings, only radars photos of my cars, but Swiss never arrested me while overspeeding, so no proof I was the driver, so I m innocent when nobody can prove I was the driver, so I will never pay and same on next times, whatever are your bullshits I don't care about. I don't pay in France, even when I m arrested, and they don't put me in jail, nor in Germany. Switzerland is just little China in the middle of EU, behind green grass. Just for brothels, 40 CHF for vignette, around 60 for 4 valleys skipass from 11 am to extreme free ride for 6 hours and not worthing more for me. I wish you will understand this and you are free to think what you want, but you are not me.

LOL!

[URL]https://twitter.com/Gee2TheAitch/status/1390097045885751296?s=20[/URL]

[QUOTE]The really frustrating thing…is that they’ve spent months, they’ve spent 5 months telling us to get vaccinated – ‘oh get vaccinated and this will all be over’ – and I was like great, I’ll get all four vaccines if it means I’ll get my life back.

But now they’re putting out a chart and it says even if you get vaccinated, you can only do two more things without a mask on – two!

Guys, what the hell? The shit you’re telling people is incoherent. You’re telling us these new vaccines are 95% effective and will stop coronavirus but we still can’t do anything without a mask on – which is it?

“Is this one of the most effective vaccines in the world or does it not work? It’s not clear messaging especially if you’re desperately trying to convince people to get the vaccine.[/QUOTE]Enjoy your Frankenstein "vaccine" boys, and enjoy all the 'updates' for the "mutations. " LOL! Cue 'PiZ' a. K. a. 'The Murse' with their usual misinformation that 'people just don't understand the science.'

P.S. This is what I already said a few days ago in this post, where I made a sarcastic analysis of the CDC's "Key Points" about the vaccine: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4160-Rants-and-WTF-are-you-talking-about-and-Coronavirus[/URL]!&p=2556851&viewfull=1#post2556851.

Oh my god, I really misjudged COVID-19. I just learned that 76 Swedes under the age of 40 have died with (not because of, but with) COVID-19. That sounds really dangerous!

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2557228]If somebody behind a computer told me what to do, I will answer like them: shut up. Now, bicycle racers do what their ear tell them, and it became so boring to watch them, when I remember Pantani starting in steep with double acceleration to kill others, or funny stories about Toledo eagle, Federico Bahamontes who has his picture on kilometer 4 in where you can't lie, Zoncolan. Pantani also has his picture just before 3 tunnels. Under dopping, he fell under cocaine, but he remains a real legend for Italians, when Stelvio from Prato is like church for Italians on week end. Look forward returning in this paradise for me.[/QUOTE]Guy in the Chair: [I]noun[/I].

"Characters in superhero movies that provide technical support to the main hero. They can usually hack, and they are always sitting in front of a computer screen and talking into headsets. The most integral part of a team, behind the scenes".

Hi, welcome to 2021 where things have progressed to levels beyond what individuals people can achieve alone. You might want to adapt or go extinct like the dinosaurs.

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2557241]LOL!

[URL]https://twitter.com/Gee2TheAitch/status/1390097045885751296?s=20[/URL]

Enjoy your Frankenstein "vaccine" boys, and enjoy all the 'updates' for the "mutations. " LOL! Cue 'PiZ' a. K. a. 'The Murse' with their usual misinformation that 'people just don't understand the science.'

P.S. This is what I already said a few days ago in this post, where I made a sarcastic analysis of the CDC's "Key Points" about the vaccine: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4160-Rants-and-WTF-are-you-talking-about-and-Coronavirus[/URL]!&p=2556851&viewfull=1#post2556851.[/QUOTE]I would be butthurt also if I had someone factchecking all of my bogus claims. Sorry. Not going to stop but sorry anyway, basic human courtesy and all.

P.S. A handful of people often include phrases like "I already said" or "I proved this or that" in their arguments. If your words had merit, that usually is not necessary. It often has roots in insecurity, something about being thirsty for approval or validation. Better to just let your words and facts speak for themselves. But that means selecting better words and facts.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2557199]Anorexia like addiction like obesity are diseases. Fit mean slim for me, which is nothing anorexic, when each sporty making dynamic knows weight is the enemy, reason why Sagan is not a good climber. I think being fit help to be healthy and to resist to covid. Why to use a light carbon bicycle if You are heavy and with more than 70 kgs, then You are too heavy for really steep climbings I love, completely useless if You are not able on your bicycle potential. Same like Swiss snails driving cars I would push far beyond 300 km / h. I really regret You don t answer for my many times repeating invitation for Gran San Bernardino, I would even enter little China among EU for You, maybe my bicycle could be flashed going downhill. But no answer when will have to test the truth, when I will enjoy in swim suit and topless, to breathe and make my muscles breathe deep, no bullshit there, just You are able or not. Are you?[/QUOTE]Remember you said you are 25 kg lighter than Sagan according to you watching him on TV, and Sagan according to official sources was 73 kg at the Tour de Romandie just days ago. So we all agreed you are 48 kg, that goes in anorexia territory. Can you do even one single pull-up? You must open jars by cutting the lids with a can opener because you don't have enough strength to twist the lid off.

No sane person in this world would want to meet up with somebody as delusional as you. I have zero interest to meet mentally ill people. For you, who derives his self worth by making things up in forums, it must be frustrating to get called on your BS. How does it compare with when you found out that a prostitute scammed you for 15 K EUR?

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2557241]LOL!
[URL]https://twitter.com/Gee2TheAitch/status/1390097045885751296?s=20[/URL]
Enjoy your Frankenstein "vaccine" boys, and enjoy all the 'updates' for the "mutations. " LOL! C[/QUOTE]Cute, you saw Trevor Noah. He can be funny, though personally I think Jon Stewart was much better. These days John Oliver is good and Jordan Klepper too (Jordan Klepper fingers the pulse. Into the MAGAverse).

As usual, you completely missed the point. His complaint is that the CDC is too cautious with reopening, he is the opposite of an antivaxxer.

I got my first shot recently and I am disappointed, I didn't grow a third ball. One day of a little local discomfort in the injection area and that's it.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2557228]If somebody behind a computer told me what to do, I will answer like them: shut up. Now, bicycle racers do what their ear tell them, and it became so boring to watch them, when I remember Pantani starting in steep with double acceleration to kill others, or funny stories about Toledo eagle, Federico Bahamontes who has his picture on kilometer 4 in where you can't lie, Zoncolan. Pantani also has his picture just before 3 tunnels. Under dopping, he fell under cocaine, but he remains a real legend for Italians, when Stelvio from Prato is like church for Italians on week end. Look forward returning in this paradise for me.[/QUOTE]You are not a bicycle racer either. You never had a race number on, you wouldn't even know how to pin the number. Cycling a few weekends per year (if you don't make it up and that is a big if) counts at best as a cyclotourist. There are plenty of grandmas around Zurich who cycle more and faster than you.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2557201]So far from this forum, I've met a world champion cyclist / F1 driving Casa Nova, a Machiavellian communications expert / society manipulator with access to privilege social engineering plans, and here we have Fat Edward Snowden.

Building up quite a collection here.[/QUOTE]LOL, this was a good one.

[QUOTE=Canary;2557233]The news isn't all doom & gloom despite what some say on this board:
Health experts "haven't seen any hint" of a Covid variant that can fully evade the effectiveness of vaccines, a leading scientist has said.
Sharon Peacock, head of the Covid-19 Genomics UK Consortium (COG-UK) and professor of public health and microbiology at the University of Cambridge, said it could be the case that coronavirus mutates to become less infectious. Though she warned it could take years for it to become like the common cold.
...
"Some people have predicted that a virus could emerge that is pretty resistant to vaccines, but we haven't seen any hint of that.[/QUOTE]Biontech and Moderna vaccines are still effective against the current major strains. Even so, both companies are already testing booster shots with better effectiveness against be. 1.351 and P.1.

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2557265]Oh my god, I really misjudged COVID-19. I just learned that 76 Swedes under the age of 40 have died with (not because of, but with) COVID-19. That sounds really dangerous![/QUOTE]You must be an orphan.

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2557241]LOL!

[URL]https://twitter.com/Gee2TheAitch/status/1390097045885751296?s=20[/URL][/QUOTE]I didn't like that guy there before, but he is growing on me! Big plus in the book there!

The saying goes like this: It's the economy, stupid!

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2557201]Biochem drop out from what I remember. Somehow ended up "owning some data security company" with an NSA contract from his claims. Apparently the contract was worth tens / hundreds of millions.

But for some reason, was extremely concerned about the cost of a 500 euro repair when he scraped the compact-economy class rental car while driving *Forward* out of a parking garage. Was quite hilarious.

Sometimes it's fun to not say anything and just see how much bullshitters will bullshit.

So far from this forum, I've met a world champion cyclist / F1 driving Casa Nova, a Machiavellian communications expert / society manipulator with access to privilege social engineering plans, and here we have Fat Edward Snowden.

Building up quite a collection here.[/QUOTE]For real facts and you can read again with your friends here, I wrote I was happy about my speed compare to tour de France gruppetto in new French Loze with more than 20% steep, but not 2 kilometers with more than 19% steep for average like in Zoncolan, but Loze is up to above 2400 meters high when Zoncolan is around 1650, not same oxygen for effort. And furthermore when I really climbed just like a tourist. I remember when putting my great friend bicycle down of car back and preparing, people looking at me in swim suit and topless, asking: You go to Loze? Yes. You know it? No. But it s so difficult, I will see. When I have since 2018,28% of Gentile stuck in my mind, just waiting they clean the narrow road among trees, then, even vomishing, but I want it. For my Summer holidays, now I know, so I will repeat Loze, only aim being to improve my speed to be faster than gruppetto and Sagan climbing on tour de France 2020. And when going for Zoncolan, for sure I will go to see if I can try Gentile, if no wood on road, but also having to get used to pain in legs, lungs, heart and head. Compare to Swiss snails, give me a French hands made Bugatti Chiron and I will enjoy to go much faster than 400 km / h on German autobahns where legal, when formula 1 or moto GP don t reach more than 370 . Look forward returning to test new engine, so relaxing to speed in Germany where this is legal, when so stressful to be a snail when around 20 radars on less than 300 kms between Basel and Geneva, just exhausting nightmare. When they try everything to rob your money, but they can t even imagine how huge effort to drive like a snail, maybe why Swiss think driving between Zurich and Basel or Bern is so far, when less than 100 kms, when I drive sometimes 3000 kms on a week end. If I go to Catalunya, Costa del Sol, Madrid, I will drive not far from 4000 kms on few days and just easy, but for sure not like a snail and no problem in Spain, like in Italy. I remember one of my very rare brothels friends telling me: Maybe You prefer to speed in Germany than brothels.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2557201]So far from this forum, I've met a world champion cyclist / F1 driving Casa Nova, a Machiavellian communications expert / society manipulator with access to privilege social engineering plans, and here we have Fat Edward Snowden.[/QUOTE]I can imagine life is weird for someone who grew up reading printed lies regarding drugs and medicines when not being told these remedies came from nature and have been used for thousands of years. The fool is strong with this one!

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2557265]Oh my god, I really misjudged COVID-19. I just learned that 76 Swedes under the age of 40 have died with (not because of, but with) COVID-19. That sounds really dangerous![/QUOTE]Well said Shoo and I hear India is a great place to visit this time of year. I suggest you should visit as soon as possible.

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2557241]LOL!

[URL]https://twitter.com/Gee2TheAitch/status/1390097045885751296?s=20[/URL]

Enjoy your Frankenstein "vaccine" boys, and enjoy all the 'updates' for the "mutations. " LOL! Cue 'PiZ' a. K. a. 'The Murse' with their usual misinformation that 'people just don't understand the science.'

P.S. This is what I already said a few days ago in this post, where I made a sarcastic analysis of the CDC's "Key Points" about the vaccine: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4160-Rants-and-WTF-are-you-talking-about-and-Coronavirus[/URL]!&p=2556851&viewfull=1#post2556851.[/QUOTE]Did you understand you science guys? The HT has got a video from Trevor Noha (a comedian) and one of his own posts to show that all the published science on vaccines and Covid is wrong! HT is so confident that Covid is nothing more than the flu that he's booking a holiday in India together with Shoo! You will all see. They will both come back healthier than ever!

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2557265]Oh my god, I really misjudged COVID-19. I just learned that 76 Swedes under the age of 40 have died with (not because of, but with) COVID-19. That sounds really dangerous![/QUOTE]Oh dear, abandon the entire plant! LOL!

Spaceballs: [URL]https://youtu.be/EfkNvOOiZ_8[/URL].

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2557123]Why don't you quote the relevant parts instead of sending people on a wild-goose chase?[/QUOTE]He posted a 500 word article. If that's your idea of a wild-goose chase, that explains the quality of most of your claims.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2557335]Biontech and Moderna vaccines are still effective against the current major strains. Even so, both companies are already testing booster shots with better effectiveness against be. 1.351 and P.1.[/QUOTE]There are absolutely no evidences about it, they self declare it. If it is true why a "booster" in fact a new vaccine is needed (like for the normal flue), why Israel have already ordered millions of new vaccines?

[QUOTE=Pistons;2557356]I can imagine life is weird for someone who grew up reading printed lies regarding drugs and medicines when not being told these remedies came from nature and have been used for thousands of years. The fool is strong with this one![/QUOTE]You think paracetamol came from tree bark.

That was aspirin.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2557355]For real facts and you can read again with your friends here, I wrote I was happy about my speed compare to tour de France gruppetto in new French Loze with more than 20% steep, but not 2 kilometers with I remember one of my very rare brothels friends telling me: Maybe You prefer to speed in Germany than brothels.[/QUOTE]Okay Michael Schumacher.

[QUOTE=RockyV;2557369]Did you understand you science guys? The HT has got a video from Trevor Noha (a comedian) and one of his own posts to show that all the published science on vaccines and Covid is wrong! HT is so confident that Covid is nothing more than the flu that he's booking a holiday in India together with Shoo! You will all see. They will both come back healthier than ever![/QUOTE]It just further shows that HT can't approach this topic with nuance and objectivity. The commentary was about messaging and how authorities have not clearly set expectations for the public. I agree.

This fair commentary just provides further supporting evidence that this pandemic suffers more from incompetence than sourced from some deviant plan.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2557355]For real facts and you can read again with your friends here..[/QUOTE]Cycling faster than professional cyclists. Driving faster than formula 1 drivers. Leaping over tall buildings in single bound.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2557355]so I will repeat Loze, only aim being to improve my speed to be faster than gruppetto.[/QUOTE]So your dream is that when you go as hard as you can, you are faster than when they go as slow as they can. Without the 150 km before plus Col de la Madeleine.

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2557424]There are absolutely no evidences about it, they self declare it. If it is true why a "booster" in fact a new vaccine is needed (like for the normal flue), why Israel have already ordered millions of new vaccines?[/QUOTE]Sigh, there are studies and there will be more going forward. Why do you think the numbers are down so much from their peaks early January in UK and Israel?

No news here, this was evident a long time ago. Booster shots are needed because antibody immunity after vaccines, just like antibody immunity after an infection, decreases in time. It's not an on off switch. If you can get infected 2 years after the vaccine, you can get infected 2 years after a "natural" infection too.

Booster shots will take into account what they believe will be the major strains going forward. US, EU and so on, they all prepare for that and already have large contracts in place for delivery after 2021.

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2557424]There are absolutely no evidences about it, they self declare it. If it is true why a "booster" in fact a new vaccine is needed (like for the normal flue), why Israel have already ordered millions of new vaccines?[/QUOTE]Most current Pfizer Data:

87+ effective against British infection.

75+ against South African infection.

100% effective against severe disease for both.

Data from 200.000+ person study.

[URL]https://www.nejm.org/doi/10.1056/NEJMc2104974[/URL]

Booster not likely suggested within 12 months (ongoing):

[URL]https://www.clinicaltrialsarena.com/comment/pfizer-biontechs-covid-19-vaccine-not-expected-to-require-a-booster-in-6-12-months-variant-of-concern-specific-shot-preferred/[/URL]

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2557436]So your dream is that when you go as hard as you can, you are faster than when they go as slow as they can. Without the 150 km before plus Col de la Madeleine.[/QUOTE]And with a mountain bike cassette.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2557431]Cycling faster than professional cyclists. Driving faster than formula 1 drivers. Leaping over tall buildings in single bound.[/QUOTE]Well I never knew he was Spider-Man, & on this board, wow!

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2557337]You must be an orphan.[/QUOTE]Nope, but I'm extremely capable of understanding simple statistics and not letting the media brainwash me into making decisions based on fear.

I'm a man, not some scared little sucker.

[QUOTE=RockyV;2557368]Well said Shoo and I hear India is a great place to visit this time of year. I suggest you should visit as soon as possible.[/QUOTE]It must be hard to live in fear as you do.

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2557410]Oh dear, abandon the entire plant! LOL!

Spaceballs: [URL]https://youtu.be/EfkNvOOiZ_8[/URL].[/QUOTE]LMFAO! Have mercy on them, it can't be easy being so afraid and easily fooled by the media.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2557441]Most current Pfizer Data:

87+ effective against British infection.

75+ against South African infection.

100% effective against severe disease for both.

Data from 200.000+ person study.

[URL]https://www.nejm.org/doi/10.1056/NEJMc2104974[/URL]

Booster not likely suggested within 12 months (ongoing):

[URL]https://www.clinicaltrialsarena.com/comment/pfizer-biontechs-covid-19-vaccine-not-expected-to-require-a-booster-in-6-12-months-variant-of-concern-specific-shot-preferred/[/URL][/QUOTE]If you still believe what Pfister is saying it is your problem, I don t believe it, they all get so many free shares they will never say the contrary, also so many doctors get some financial advantages I also don't trust them, we need strong independent specialist with no link to all those companies, really independent but this is a dream today in the US, probably possible in China or Japan.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2557436]So your dream is that when you go as hard as you can, you are faster than when they go as slow as they can. Without the 150 km before plus Col de la Madeleine.[/QUOTE]Do you think you would be able to climb Loze? Just try, but without engine, not like Cancellara. Tour de France won't repeat on this year, when I will, but without Cormet Roselent before, to be faster than Sagan on last year, I don't say faster than Roglic even I think to remember he didn't win on top. I will wait for you for Gran San Bernardino which is not so difficult. In Loze, climbers are on 32 on rear, better to turn legs faster to prevent lactic acid.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2557429]Okay Michael Schumacher.[/QUOTE]When he was a dangerous behavior pilot, he was lucky despite crash in Silverstone, but really unlucky when skiing in Meribel, not even free riding, and he had helmet when I don't put on, not even when going downhill on bicycle at more than 70 km / h. Some snails drive cars which are faster for maximum speed than formula 1, when I wait to go to play in Germany.

Seychelles with 70% citizens vaccined with Chinese quality, but covid still spreading with 30% positive who were vaccined. I think kind of same in Chile with Brazilian mutant, despite vaccine, but also with Chinese quality vaccine.

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2557467]If you still believe what Pfister is saying it is your problem, I don t believe it, they all get so many free shares they will never say the contrary, also so many doctors get some financial advantages I also don't trust them, we need strong independent specialist with no link to all those companies, really independent but this is a dream today in the US, probably possible in China or Japan.[/QUOTE]Good thing that it was an independent study that was peer reviewed.

-Biomedical Research Program and the Biostatistics, Epidemiology, and Biomathematics Research Core at Weill Cornell Medicine.

What else you got?

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2557428]You think paracetamol came from tree bark.

That was aspirin.[/QUOTE]LOLOLOLOLOL!

You suck so much? What did you just do 1 Google search now, and then you found on the 10 first hits it told you about aspirin? LOL!

Quote:

History of Paracetamol.

It takes us back to ancient and medieval times, when the people existing in that era knew about antipyretic agents were actually the compounds contained in white willow bark of a tree majorly found in Central Asia and Europe, which is in fact family of chemicals 'Salicin', which similarly also leads to development of another famous drug 'Aspirin' and also about compounds contained in South American native tree called cinchona.

You can continue reading about it here:

[URL]http://www.medgazette24.com/paracetamol-the-drug-we-know-the-uses-we-dont/[/URL]

As the n00b wannabe can read from my source, paracetamol is nothing more than a natural willow tree bark piss compound:

"In 1893, urine samples of individuals who consumed phenacetin were tested and as result paracetamol was found in them, this was then concentrated into a white, bitter tasting crystalline compound."

So enjoy your piss! Maybe you just love getting Pisst on?

Lets introduce a new saying here for our wannabe health crowds who get equally brainwashed patients or victims of criminal patent laws on nature:

If you have a sexy hot female patient in need of a painkiller up their anus, or in order to relieve the stress from a long day's work, there is no need for factory produced mechanical paracetamol. Do it the natural way, and call on Pistons! He'll chug some willow bark, and be ready to go, like the superhero he is!

[QUOTE=Pistons;2557496]LOLOLOLOLOL!

You suck so much? What did you just do 1 Google search now, and then you found on the 10 first hits it told you about aspirin? LOL!

Quote:

History of Paracetamol.

It takes us back to ancient and medieval times, when the people existing in that era knew about antipyretic agents were actually the compounds contained in white willow bark of a tree majorly found in Central Asia and Europe, which is in fact family of chemicals 'Salicin', which similarly also leads to development of another famous drug 'Aspirin' and also about compounds contained in South American native tree called cinchona.

You can continue reading about it here:

[URL]http://www.medgazette24.com/paracetamol-the-drug-we-know-the-uses-we-dont/[/URL][/QUOTE]Ok Frankenstein's monster, your own source proves you wrong again and that you're not very good at reading. Try reading that again buddy. Stay in your lane because anything science or medical ain''t it.

In short for everyone else, paracetamol and aspirin are antipyretics. Not all antipyretics are paracetamol. Paracetamol / Tylenol / acetaminophen is a purely synthetic compound with no previous use.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2557496]LOLOLOLOLOL!

You suck so much? What did you just do 1 Google search now, and then you found on the 10 first hits it told you about aspirin? LOL!

Quote:

History of Paracetamol.

It takes us back to ancient and medieval times, when the people existing in that era knew about antipyretic agents were actually the compounds contained in white willow bark of a tree majorly found in Central Asia and Europe, which is in fact family of chemicals 'Salicin', which similarly also leads to development of another famous drug 'Aspirin' and also about compounds contained in South American native tree called cinchona.

You can continue reading about it here:

[URL]http://www.medgazette24.com/paracetamol-the-drug-we-know-the-uses-we-dont/[/URL][/QUOTE]Even funnier that they gave a master's degree in "communications" when to a person who fails a simple exercise in reading comprehension.

Go demand your weathergirl degree back. Apparently you got ripped off.

Sit the fuck down. Back of the class. You lose. Again.

How fucking embarrassing for you.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2557477]and he had helmet when I don't put on, not even when going downhill on bicycle at more than 70 km / h.[/QUOTE]Well that sounds like a dumb thing to do. Especially at your age.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2557497]As the n00b wannabe can read from my source, paracetamol is nothing more than a natural willow tree bark piss compound:

"In 1893, urine samples of individuals who consumed phenacetin were tested and as result paracetamol was found in them, this was then concentrated into a white, bitter tasting crystalline compound."

So enjoy your piss! Maybe you just love getting Pisst on?[/QUOTE]Absolutely not because your phenacetin doesn't come from the tree bark.

Try to draw Venn diagrams, they're like big potatoes (mathematics for 14 yo but efficient).

Little potato A: paracetamol.

Bigger potato be which totally includes A: antipyretics.

Big potato see which intersects be but not A: natural medicines.

Got it?

For one I know or a fact that there is a difference between an invention and a creation. And noone created phenacetin. It was invented from willow tree bark by adding something to the mix. That is what an invention is. And how phenacetin was publicly brought forth in a certain narrative. But I can assure you that the added compound was a natural one as well! Just like the piss it ends up as after you take it!

So yes, reading comprehension!

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2557467]If you still believe what Pfister is saying it is your problem, I don t believe it, they all get so many free shares they will never say the contrary, also so many doctors get some financial advantages I also don't trust them, we need strong independent specialist with no link to all those companies, really independent but this is a dream today in the US, probably possible in China or Japan.[/QUOTE]Pfizer tell now for third dose for mutants and now even to vaccine children older than 12. And play again in 1 year. They are making good business, when many Western EU, at least in France and Germany refuse now to be vaccined with AZ. Our doctors have now AZ doses but don t find clients. Now seem to need to vaccine nearly 80% of world population, how is it possible in India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Africa? And when Chinese quality vaccined, but virus still spreading, like in Seychelles.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2557539]Well that sounds like a dumb thing to do. Especially at your age.[/QUOTE]How age matter about helmet and crash? Didn't you learn, when being healthy of course, but you make better resistance, I don t say stamina nor recovery, but resistance for intense efforts, when you get older. When I started to ski before 3 yo, because my father loved ski and bicycle, great fan of Federico Bahamontes he told me about, but I was crying because had cold feet, but when I was 14, I was a bit sad because he couldn't follow me anymore when I started to find a bit extreme spots, and after 35 years free riding, looking for the most extreme spots through crevaces and rocks, called call then die, without helmet nor airbag nor detection ARVA for avalanche, same like driving as fast as car can reach since I started, even under rain with rear wheels driving, driving for 25 years legendary rodeo girl, race car RS500 Cosworth I improved with more than 50% power more for engine, improving also balance of course, better performances than 911 on early 90's, and still alive bad guy never crashed anybody, but only my car and me and rebuilt twice, making more performing each time. When I decided to climb 18 years ago, when I preferred my Suzuki ER when I was 14 , I remember I was crying from nerves pressure in Mont Ventoux and my hands full of blood, but I improved so much, with more than 1 hour less on climbing, improving knowledge for this sport, turning legs and rhythm technique and bicycle technique of course, to stay on cardio rhythm to prevent lactic acid. When I tell to sports doctors when I make effort cardio control, before starting my Summer and at the end, they tell me I m really crazy for this. Italians are so funny, dressed like professionals, with helmet, on their pinarello, when I am with my swim boxer suit, topless my skin being my passion sponsor, no helmet because I prefer to let my hair breathing, but when I arrive on top of Zoncolan or Mortirolo, few Italians who dare to try there, never think tramp climber is not Italian, all looking at my bicycle they never saw same, when I don t care about pinarello or trekk or Cannondale, when I know my bicycle has potential to go faster than Roglic or Pogacar are able to push, and of course, guy turning legs and his body are more efficient than bicycle, except if You use with electric engine. Each year and again on this Summer, I go to perform better and for sure will return to improve in Loze where I didn't see anything else climbing on my discovery. Passion for extreme and I m pretty sure, even never asked my sports doctors, but help to be hard with girls, when over 50 but I let Viagra to those who try to play porn, when at least I have the size, when Viagra won t help for this. Wish for high altitude Summer ski to prepare and make oxygen for a great Summer. I just have to be more careful not to hurt my body and fall in Anemia after more than 10 days with intense efforts, like on last Summer, because then, after 1 h /1 h30 of intense effort, performances are falling and then not worthing to go on top. Look forward to drink mountains fresh water, to feel cleaning inside my body, when sport will clean my lungs to be strong for covid.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2557474]to be faster than Sagan on last year...[/QUOTE]I can do the 100 m faster than Usain Bolt. That is, if I run as fast as I can and he is walking and he has no intention to walk fast.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2557232]Wasn't it true you told me on Summer 2015 at Sharks, wow beauty Karin told you she was Spanish and I answered you: I'm sure she is Romanian, and she told me after 1 minute, she is Romanian born. Same like German Lucifer, waiting for key with you, but going to another guy, already thinking about next after your fast room. I would have told her: go and stay with him. Not real facts?[/QUOTE]Ofc, I knew she was Romanian. Even Ho can tell us that. I am sure if I told Karin "It's too bad that you are Spanish, I love Romanian elegance", she would have admitted that she was Romanian after one minute also. Not because she likes me more than any other monger, but because she wants to close the sale.

I have heard heard this Lucifer key waiting story 1000 times, and I have never responded because I know you need these "victories" more than me. But as I told you via PM. I noticed she was annoyed. In a ten minute span, she turned around three times, and you were staring at her back all three times. I told her, "Go talk to him". I encouraged her because this is her job. She makes money if she is continuously booked, so I want her to have her next client lined up. I have said to many of my regular WGs, "You should go with my friend after this" or "This client told me he wants to go with you next". I do this to be helpful to the WG and the other monger.

On a busy day, it is especially important. At LR, once you arrived late. Your Eve was in the room. Normally, you monitor her strategically, but for some reason this day you went to get food first. Maybe because she messaged you and told you that her appointment with another client would be longer, and for some reason her appointment ended earlier than expected. I said to her "Your client was looking for you in the dining room eating". She thanked me. Afterwards you came and thanked me too. Understand that I have always tried to be helpful. Even now, I am trying to be helpful. I do not write this because I am jealous. Or I am trying to embarrass you. Or even defend myself (because I do not care what others think on here).

I hope you find the help you need. I have tried to explain to you. I know you are trying to be chivalrous or romantic, but women think it is creepy, if you give all your attention to them. Be honest, your Eve at LR, you probably know at all times which client she is with, which room number she is in, what time she arrived, what time she left. Even if you never plan or want to go with her again. You desperately want her to be jealous. You want her to acknowledge your "superiority". That is the only thing that is important to you. You will probably even ask Lucifer about my version of events. You will ask her because you are desperate for proof of your superiority. You are always looking for evidence of it. All the readers can see it. And I am sure the WGs can see it and they know, "he will like me if I acknowledge his superiority". Do not worry. Lucifer will tell you what you want to hear.

[URL]https://www.goldentime.at/news-wien/789-wiedereroeffnung-am-19-mai-reopening-on-may-19[/URL]

"Entering the club is only possible with a FFP2-mask and one of the following proofs (the guidelines apply to prostitutes and male guests):

- Vaccination certificate.

- Antibody detection.

- PCR max. 72 h old.

- Antigen max. 48 h old.

- Self test max. 24 h old".

I am not sure how it's going to work with the FFP2 masks, possibly just carried around in a pocket like in the Swiss clubs.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2557609]How age matter about helmet and crash? Didn't you learn, when being healthy of course, but you make better resistance, I don t say stamina nor recovery, but resistance for intense efforts, when you get older. When I started to ski before 3 yo, because my father loved ski and bicycle, great fan of Federico Bahamontes he told me about, but I was crying because had cold feet, but when I was 14, I was a bit sad because he couldn't follow me anymore when I started to find a bit extreme spots, and after 35 years free riding, looking for the most extreme spots through crevaces and rocks, called call then die, without helmet nor airbag nor detection ARVA for avalanche, same like driving as fast as car can reach since I started, even under rain with rear wheels driving, driving for 25 years legendary rodeo girl, race car RS500 Cosworth I improved with more than 50% power more for engine, improving also balance of course, better performances than 911 on early 90's, and still alive bad guy never crashed anybody, but only my car and me and rebuilt twice, making more performing each time. When I decided to climb 18 years ago, when I preferred my Suzuki ER when I was 14 , I remember I was crying from nerves pressure in Mont Ventoux and my hands full of blood, but I improved so much, with more than 1 hour less on climbing, improving knowledge for this sport, turning legs and rhythm technique and bicycle technique of course, to stay on cardio rhythm to prevent lactic acid. When I tell to sports doctors when I make effort cardio control, before starting my Summer and at the end, they tell me I m really crazy for this. Italians are so funny, dressed like professionals, with helmet, on their pinarello, when I am with my swim boxer suit, topless my skin being my passion sponsor, no helmet because I prefer to let my hair breathing, but when I arrive on top of Zoncolan or Mortirolo, few Italians who dare to try there, never think tramp climber is not Italian, all looking at my bicycle they never saw same, when I don t care about pinarello or trekk or Cannondale, when I know my bicycle has potential to go faster than Roglic or Pogacar are able to push, and of course, guy turning legs and his body are more efficient than bicycle, except if You use with electric engine.[/QUOTE]Older age: Calcium-VitD imbalance. Bones more fragile, Inefficient repair, prolonged healing. Longer time to recovery. More loss of function after injury. Worse neuro-hemodynamic in response to changes in cerebral pressure due to neuro-trauma.

As always, didn't care to read the middle gibberish after the 3rd line.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2557597]For one I know or a fact that there is a difference between an invention and a creation. And noone created phenacetin. It was invented from willow tree bark by adding something to the mix. That is what an invention is. And how phenacetin was publicly brought forth in a certain narrative. But I can assure you that the added compound was a natural one as well! Just like the piss it ends up as after you take it!

So yes, reading comprehension![/QUOTE]I get it, you're an ESL kid, English as a Second Language. But no active ingredient / component of paracetamol came from tree bark.

In your excitement to get something right, just one thing, you read wrong. Blew your nut before you closed the deal. Typical and not surprised.

[QUOTE]Phenacetin may be synthesized as an example of the Williamson ether synthesis: ethyl iodide, paracetamol, and anhydrous potassium carbonate are heated in 2-butanone to give the crude product, which is recrystallized from water.[/QUOTE][QUOTE] Too much cutting down of cinchona tree led to its scarcity in the year 1880 and this led to people finding a replacement for it. Alternative antipyretic agents by the name of acetanilide and phenacetin were discovered in year 1886 and 1887 respectively. Finally an American chemist named as Harmon Northrop Morse was the man, who invented paracetamol as he synthesized paracetamol via the reduction of p-nitrophenol with tin in glacial acetic acid [/QUOTE]French isn't Catholic. Zeus or Zevs is never spelled Zews. Paracetamol is a synthetic compound.

I said sit the fuck down boy.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2557612]I can do the 100 m faster than Usain Bolt. That is, if I run as fast as I can and he is walking and he has no intention to walk fast.[/QUOTE]Just try to climb Loze, to be able to understand, rather than your bullshiting, when gruppetto was already very late at the bottom, after la Madeleine, and needed to finish less than 40 mn after winner, if Sagan wanted to see Champs Elysees. Same like your French bald friend here who may think they climb more than 20% steep on 24 on rear, when they climb on 32 , like me, sometimes putting 36 to turn legs and put heart faster, to avoid lactic acid which paralyze your muscles, but just have to know what is this sport, when I climb every day on my holidays, as long I m able. I think I climb on my Summer as much as Giro, Tour de France and Vuelta all together, but only the highest ranked for me, when Tour de France 2021 will be quite poor for climbings, climbing Mont Ventoux from Sault, much less difficult than from Malaucene, maybe they thought from Malaucene and Bedoin would be too difficult for some, when I love this for 40 kms climbing for more than 4 hours with 2 downhill. Will wait for You for easier Gran San Bernardino, only 4 last kilometers on 9% average, but then You are used to effort.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2557663][URL]https://www.goldentime.at/news-wien/789-wiedereroeffnung-am-19-mai-reopening-on-may-19[/URL]

"Entering the club is only possible with a FFP2-mask and one of the following proofs (the guidelines apply to prostitutes and male guests):

- Vaccination certificate.

- Antibody detection.

- PCR max. 72 h old.

- Antigen max. 48 h old.

- Self test max. 24 h old".

I am not sure how it's going to work with the FFP2 masks, possibly just carried around in a pocket like in the Swiss clubs.[/QUOTE]Golden Time Vienna is not open, nor Wellcum and won t very soon, just read Massimo. Only Switzerland with many clubs which are open and some discounts less expensive than Germany and Spain with more expensive girls rate but no entry to pay, for those who can t control balls pain or addiction if they suffer from miss. Addiction being when not able to control, not when looking for pleasure.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2557682]Golden Time Vienna is not open, nor Wellcum and won t very soon, just read Massimo. [/QUOTE]Nobody said it's open now. It says that it will open May 19th, it's right there in the title.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2557670]Older age: Calcium-VitD imbalance. Bones more fragile, Inefficient repair, prolonged healing. Longer time to recovery. More loss of function after injury. Worse neuro-hemodynamic in response to changes in cerebral pressure due to neuro-trauma.

As always, didn't care to read the middle gibberish after the 3rd line.[/QUOTE]But I have a secret, when most drink beer which make become fat and bad breathe, I always drank milk, like a little veal. I think I'm still quite healthy and powerful for my Summer to come, even I know it will be difficult when no intense efforts in high altitude on this Winter, so I will start with Summer ski, wish Tignes will open on 19 June as they tell, but I trust my passion and motivation, stronger than money. When many followers in brothels, but they will never experience same like me because they are not me, I'm sure I won't have many followers in my mountains, but they should just understand, from passion when you are able to have, or from strong motivation, you can push your limits, even going beyond and can achieve what you thought you would never be able. My way of thinking, no limits for me.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2557678] ... I think I climb on my Summer as much as Giro, Tour de France and Vuelta all together...[/QUOTE]Please go see a psychiatrist. You badly need one. If not for you, than for the sake of people around you. You are putting them in danger.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2557653]Ofc, I knew she was Romanian. Even Ho can tell us that. I am sure if I told Karin "It's too bad that you are Spanish, I love Romanian elegance", she would have admitted that she was Romanian after one minute also. Not because she likes me more than any other monger, but because she wants to close the sale.

I have heard heard this Lucifer key waiting story 1000 times, and I have never responded because I know you need these "victories" more than me. But as I told you via PM. I noticed she was annoyed. In a ten minute span, she turned around three times, and you were staring at her back all three times. I told her, "Go talk to him". I encouraged her because this is her job. She makes money if she is continuously booked, so I want her to have her next client lined up. I have said to many of my regular WGs, "You should go with my friend after this" or "This client told me he wants to go with you next". I do this to be helpful to the WG and the other monger.

On a busy day, it is especially important. At LR, once you arrived late. Your Eve was in the room. Normally, you monitor her strategically, but for some reason this day you went to get food first. Maybe because she messaged you and told you that her appointment with another client would be longer, and for some reason her appointment ended earlier than expected. I said to her "Your client was looking for you in the dining room eating". She thanked me. Afterwards you came and thanked me too. Understand that I have always tried to be helpful. Even now, I am trying to be helpful. I do not write this because I am jealous. Or I am trying to embarrass you. Or even defend myself (because I do not care what others think on here)..[/QUOTE]Didn't see Ho who has shameful ugly Woodman for idol, but you didn't tell me Karin is Romanian but Spanish, don't you remember? I do, when she told me she is Romanian born but feel more Spanish since long time she lived there. A bit like Kate feeling Italian. No problem for me with both. About Lucifer, she came to me before you were waiting for key and also after, when many waited for her, but I didn't want to go with her, even she really tried, and I promise you I won't ask her about this Saturday at crowded GT, when since Palace on April 2017 , she doesn't interest me anymore. About LR, I never took appointment with my Eve, I didn't need when she always made free for me, and I loved her behavior for me, like I never took appointment with Kate when she proposed me to be free for me. But I fully confirm, when she didn't know I would come, when I wanted to have diner before anything else, when first meal of my day at nearly 10 pm when I woke up at 6 am, worked whole day and did speed from Paris, but I heard her thanking you, she told me it was nice from you to tell her I was in restaurant when she didn't know I would come on this Thursday evening, when she knew I came on Friday and sometimes Saturday, and yes I still thank you for this, despite your total misunderstanding: when I decided to stop with her and never return like I did before, when she told me I humiliated her in front of all the club, she didn't know how it was difficult for me to refuse my best pleasure when she came to me again after Thursday 12 October night. She had many others better than me waiting for her, she could have chosen them before, she kept on her busy business, when I needed 11 months to find new pleasure at LR, when at this time many new girls didn't stay for long at LR with slow business for most girls. From her anger, she disappointed me and her new image and behavior didn't worth anymore my money, nothing about her look when I always told her I found her pretty, but not anymore the image of woman for me. She kept on her business for much longer than she told when she started, I knew I lost my best girl, but she didn't make me regret my decision when looking at what she became. I let guys or vulgar Jane bullshitting, I only focus to try to find a beauty for my eyes and then to make her be good for my tastes, same for me everywhere, hardest job being to find a woman image and also for manners. But you are right, after discovery when I show girls who I am, I really need they come to me, running after or waiting would kill my desire. I loved also when Globe busy superstar, ex Hessen superstar, Kate chose me for first choice when I wanted, and then she was not jealous, being my first girl, when she told: because I know how you treat me, when I was just a tramp in her Globe business, but a tramp valuating her as a woman. I don't plan to change, still looking for woman images and next when no more, when no consequences in brothels, not more than anger and disappointment.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2557653]I have heard heard this Lucifer key waiting story 1000 times, and I have never responded because I know you need these "victories" more than me. But as I told you via PM. I noticed she was annoyed. In a ten minute span, she turned around three times, and you were staring at her back all three times.

You will probably even ask Lucifer about my version of events. You will ask her because you are desperate for proof of your superiority. You are always looking for evidence of it. All the readers can see it. And I am sure the WGs can see it and they know, "he will like me if I acknowledge his superiority". Do not worry. Lucifer will tell you what you want to hear.[/QUOTE]Facts. Pure facts.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2557705]Please go see a psychiatrist. You badly need one. If not for you, than for the sake of people around you. You are putting them in danger.[/QUOTE]Come on it makes total sense. Each one of the three 'grand tours' has 40,000-50,000 meters of climbing. At least 120,000 m for the three combined.

Spider Casanova rides 1000 km in a year, that makes something like 500 km uphill and 500 km downhill maximum.

If you ride only 24 % climbs, that's good!

The definition of a delusion is 'a false, unshakeable idea or belief. Held with extraordinary conviction and subjective certainty.' Delusions are a common symptom of a range of psychiatric illnesses including schizophrenia, depression, bipolar disorder and dementia.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2557702]Nobody said it's open now. It says that it will open May 19th, it's right there in the title.[/QUOTE]You really don't know much, same like about climbing, GT Vienna won't open on 19 May, just because they should not be allowed. Just read Austrian thread to know a bit. I'm pretty sure Globe should open before GT Vienna.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2557678]Just try to climb Loze, to be able to understand, rather than your bullshiting, when gruppetto was already very late at the bottom, after la Madeleine, and needed to finish less than 40 mn after winner, if Sagan wanted to see Champs Elysees. Same like your French bald friend here who may think they climb more than 20% steep on 24 on rear, when they climb on 32 , like me, sometimes putting 36 to turn legs and put heart faster, to avoid lactic acid which paralyze your muscles, but just have to know what is this sport, when I climb every day on my holidays, as long I m able. I think I climb on my Summer as much as Giro, Tour de France and Vuelta all together, but only the highest ranked for me, when Tour de France 2021 will be quite poor for climbings, climbing Mont Ventoux from Sault, much less difficult than from Malaucene, maybe they thought from Malaucene and Bedoin would be too difficult for some, when I love this for 40 kms climbing for more than 4 hours with 2 downhill. Will wait for You for easier Gran San Bernardino, only 4 last kilometers on 9% average, but then You are used to effort.[/QUOTE]When you lie this much and seems to believe in your own lies. It is a problem. A huge problem.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2557705]Please go see a psychiatrist. You badly need one. If not for you, than for the sake of people around you. You are putting them in danger.[/QUOTE]Like on last Summer, warm up to test bicycle and technique on Iseran up to Tignes waterfront, not so bad to start for 15 kms with my friends donkeys under the tunnel. Then to make strength, very beautiful Gran San Bernardino from above Aosta, then telegraphe Galibier up to 2650 high, then col Agnel 2744 high on Italian side to get used to very steep, then Bonette 2802 high, then both sides of Iseran up to 2765 high, then both sides of Cormet Roselend with so beautiful lake, tour de France 2021 will climb only from Beaufort, then will go to improve in Loze to be faster than Sagan who wanted to see Champs Elysees, then Gavia from Ponte di Legno, then both sides of Stelvio 2758 meters high, then Zoncolan and maybe 28% Gentile I will try to climb on 39/24 like Superman, when you need 34/36 there, then if I didn't die there, Mortirolo, then Gran San Bernardino Swiss side to recover a bit, than Agnel 2744 high on French side, then a sprint in easy Alpe Huez, then both sides of la Madeleine, then a bit of rest before both sides of Mont Ventoux in September, but from Malaucene, much more difficult than from Sault tour de France will climb. My great Summer to feel healthy from my passion and always pushing as fast I m able, putting heart at least on red zone edge, to feel French free bird, when Federico Bahamontes was named Toledo eagle. Ask any professional team manager about my Summer I choose and make with minimum 24 highest ranked climbings for about 30.000 meters to climb, I'm sure Sagan would not go with me, but I wait for You, to see if carbon bicycle help for such sport, when you would for sure experience, more efficient to be friend with Newton gravity. If I can start with a bit of Summer ski to make oxygen and for adrenaline of course, then should make my Summer great like since many previous. If open, GT Vienna and Wellcum to recover before extreme violent Zoncolan and Gentile.

[QUOTE=McGrath;2557863]When you lie this much and seems to believe in your own lies. It is a problem. A huge problem.[/QUOTE]Those who know me, know I just do it, from my passion. If some want to follow me, but I m sure I won't have many followers for this, even I'm sure it helps to be hard with girls.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2557675]French isn't Catholic. Zeus or Zevs is never spelled Zews. Paracetamol is a synthetic compound.

I said sit the fuck down boy.[/QUOTE]French is catholic. Zews is a superior spelling, and paracetamol is piss, stemming from tree bark heated with one or more natural substances (tin etc) just like your source!

Also Crispr science started almost 10 years ago. All gut bacteria communicate with the brain. You have a micro penis, and certain toxins in the water supply for example in Atlanta reduces on average penis sizes in that city by roughly 10%. In addition RNA / DNA does not need to enter the nucleus of the cell in order for it to cause DNA changes.

A discovery is also not a creation. Columbus thought he had discovered the America's. Leif Ericsson beat him by about 600 years! One can always ponder weather or not Columbus had heard stories of Leif Ericsson for a long time before starting his voyage.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2557717]Didn't see Ho who has shameful ugly Woodman for idol, but you didn't tell me Karin is Romanian but Spanish, don't you remember? I do, when she told me she is Romanian born but feel more Spanish since long time she lived there..[/QUOTE]I said to you "She told you me she is Spanish". When I told you "Spanish" I used air quotes and laughed at same time. Every forum since I started FKKing in 2009 makes jokes about Romanians who claim to be either Italian or Spanish. I probably even warned newbies on here in 2013 or 2014 when I started posting. It is one of Ho's "jokes" that he recycles every two weeks.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2557717]About Lucifer, she came to me before you were waiting for key and also after, when many waited for her, but I didn't want to go with her, even she really tried, and I promise you I won't ask her about this Saturday at crowded GT, when since Palace on April 2017 , she doesn't interest me anymore.[/QUOTE]What I can offer is constructive criticism. Some people, might consider things I write to be attacks. That is usually not my intention. I do not think anything in my posting history suggests that I compete with other men for WGs attention. And similarly, I do not care if another WG likes another monger more than me. I am not looking for validation. You have made a lot of mentions to Lucifer incident, I haven't, so I say write this only because I think it will help you.

You stand (never sit) arms crossed at the busiest traffic point in the club, usually 15 of the 18 hours you are in the club. You ensure that your Lucifer / Eve / Kate / cocaine YY girl walks by 100 times during her shift. You stare and try to initiate eye contact every time. Maybe you do not physically and immediately run up to her and speak to her. But you stay five meters away and try to initiate eye contact. If she goes to the smoke area, you wait three minutes and then you slowly go to the smoke area and start the game again from five meters away. If your WG goes to room 7, you find a seat near that hallway and you stare at the door. So yes, you are technically correct, you are not standing there one meter away as the customer is paying her, but you are "third in line" watching her get paid. You are always making sure you are the first person your WG sees as she leaves the dressing room. Ofc, naturally she will think a few things: (1) this man worships me and is maybe in love with me, (2) this man is ready for a room with me and really some attention so I should go talk to him, (3) this extremely loyal and faithful man seems to not get much sleep, spends a lot of time in the club, so he probably has no family or hobbies to spend his money on, and if he gives me 90 percent of his attention, maybe he will give me 90 percent of his money.

Maybe conducting surveillance is your idea of romantic. Maybe you feel like you are protecting them like a dog protects his owner. Maybe this is rooted in childhood abandonment and separation anxiety issues that started with your parental figures. And you are afraid that if they leave your sight, they will never come back. Maybe you just want to compare yourself against other men. You want to compare how she treats him against how she treats you. You want to monitor her interactions with other customers. You think "he seemed to tip an extra 100 or she gave exactly 36 minutes of pre-zimmer time, 3 hours in the room, 15 minutes after post-zimmer smoke break, so maybe she is giving him AO".

I do not believe you are signalling what you think you are signalling to WGs. Maybe not Kate GT (who she seems to have a conscience), but there are lot of other WGs who will try to take advantage, thinking you are vulnerable. I suspect it is difficult, but you should at least obsess a little less over the WG. This is my recommendation to you. From what I seen, you do not seem like the type to harm people. We have always had a cordial relationship. But other peoples eyes, for instance security and reception at smaller clubs, may observe your behavior and believe you fit the profile for an obsessive stalker and ban you.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2557663][URL]https://www.goldentime.at/news-wien/789-wiedereroeffnung-am-19-mai-reopening-on-may-19[/URL]

...

I am not sure how it's going to work with the FFP2 masks, possibly just carried around in a pocket like in the Swiss clubs.[/QUOTE]Great News!

What's the word for clubs opening up in Switzerland and Germany? I've heard some opinions that Switzerland may open up months earlier than Germany. What do the experts in this forum think? What time frame do you guys guess? Is GT in Austria in any way connected / affiliated with GT in Gernamy?

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2557663][URL]https://www.goldentime.at/news-wien/789-wiedereroeffnung-am-19-mai-reopening-on-may-19[/URL]

"Entering the club is only possible with a FFP2-mask and one of the following proofs (the guidelines apply to prostitutes and male guests):

- Vaccination certificate.

- Antibody detection.

- PCR max. 72 h old.

- Antigen max. 48 h old.

- Self test max. 24 h old".

I am not sure how it's going to work with the FFP2 masks, possibly just carried around in a pocket like in the Swiss clubs.[/QUOTE]I will travel again only when there is no longer a requirement for masks. I need to admire women without masks on.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2557901]I will travel again only when there is no longer a requirement for masks. I need to admire women without masks on.[/QUOTE]In Switzerland open now, when You sit to chat with your girl and in room of course, You can put off mask. No real problems on my visits. On 2020 , except at LR which is under Kaarst administration fire, no other club in Germany, Switzerland or Austria asked for test. I doubt risky playfield brothels looking for business when slower and slower with balkanians not coming because they don t want to give their data, will select much when most are not crowded, Swiss clubs offering discounts. I don t think many Swiss clubs which are open, ask for test or vaccine, even some like Zeus and Cleo tell girls are tested, they are not administration but only brothels. GT Vienna and Wellcum didn't ask on 2020, just taking temperature. When You go to brothels, better to know there are risks and not only covid, but You can also die when sleeping in your bed. About Germany situation, they decided to put in quarantine 36 Bundesliga and Bundesliga 2 played at LR professional teams after cluster in Herta Berlin and I think Kiel, so spreading is really not finished, when EU plan to reopen a bit on 19 May and more during June, but don t mean for brothels in Germany, when Austria and ZH which is brothel of Switzerland should for Summer.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2557663][URL]https://www.goldentime.at/news-wien/789-wiedereroeffnung-am-19-mai-reopening-on-may-19[/URL]

"Entering the club is only possible with a FFP2-mask and one of the following proofs (the guidelines apply to prostitutes and male guests):

- Vaccination certificate.

- Antibody detection.

- PCR max. 72 h old.

- Antigen max. 48 h old.

- Self test max. 24 h old".

I am not sure how it's going to work with the FFP2 masks, possibly just carried around in a pocket like in the Swiss clubs.[/QUOTE]Are there lots of test centers around Austria and Germany also usable for non-locals?

[URL]https://sex-vienna.com/2021/05/06/sexclubs-seriously-have-to-stop-doing-this/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Oregon97;2557926][URL]https://sex-vienna.com/2021/05/06/sexclubs-seriously-have-to-stop-doing-this/[/URL][/QUOTE]All brothels, in Austria, Germany, Globe in ZH, would like to open to make money, but they will open only when they will be allowed and not on 19 May for Austria nor Germany. But in future and different in different countries.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2557901]I will travel again only when there is no longer a requirement for masks. I need to admire women without masks on.[/QUOTE]At least in Cleo or Zeus nobody wears a mask inside. People have one with them just in case, that's it.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2557874]I said to you "She told you me she is Spanish". When I told you "Spanish" I used air quotes and laughed at same time. Every forum since I started FKKing in 2009 makes jokes about Romanians who claim to be either Italian or Spanish. I probably even warned newbies on here in 2013 or 2014 when I started posting. It is one of Ho's "jokes" that he recycles every two weeks.

What I can offer is constructive criticism. Some people, might consider things I write to be attacks. That is usually not my intention. I do not think anything in my posting history suggests that I compete with other men for WGs attention. And similarly, I do not care if another WG likes another monger more than me. I am not looking for validation. You have made a lot of mentions to Lucifer incident, I haven't, so I say write this only because I think it will help you..[/QUOTE]We only sometimes met and not much chatting, so you just don't know me but you have great imagination. When girls come to me weekly for months, I should not make them so much problems, but some became angry at World or LR when finished, but I can tell you my LR Eve was always honest about money with me, we never even talk about money except her telling what she asked to some or for couch companionship and I answered: I would never pay for time in couch, and she answered: do I ever ask you? She never did. Also no money talk with Kate, when I m fully sure girls prefer I return than fucking me. Usually no extra asked and just taking what I give them, most often without looking counting, but Kate didn't need to tell me 100 at GT rather than 80 at Velbert. I was not interested by Lucifer, she came to me, I didn't and I think problem was a bit different with GT boss than WGs safety, when no girl never sent me staff at GT nor LR. But yes, some think I m in love, from my manners to treat them, but they also experience I control all, when I never proposed anything to any. Just laughable bullshit here from some telling story I gave 15 000 for gift to a prostitute, when they just don't know anything, but land of bullshits, reason why I really don't need this kind of brothels friends. I prefer guys who are as passionate as me for sports, but also performing, to know what it is about, not just watching on TV.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2557871]A discovery is also not a creation. Columbus thought he had discovered the America's. Leif Ericsson beat him by about 600 years! One can always ponder weather or not Columbus had heard stories of Leif Ericsson for a long time before starting his voyage.[/QUOTE]What a racist eurocentric mind that is revealed when the natives were there 10.000 years prior. Simpleton.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2557867]French is catholic. Zews is a superior spelling, and paracetamol is piss, stemming from tree bark heated with one or more natural substances (tin etc) just like your source!

Also Crispr science started almost 10 years ago. All gut bacteria communicate with the brain. You have a micro penis, and certain toxins in the water supply for example in Atlanta reduces on average penis sizes in that city by roughly 10%. In addition RNA / DNA does not need to enter the nucleus of the cell in order for it to cause DNA changes.[/QUOTE]You're a moron who has failed in the real world. It's funny to watch you create this safe space in your mind. Future Siri over here.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2557987]We only sometimes met and not much chatting, so you just don't know me but you have great imagination. When girls come to me weekly for months, I should not make them so much problems, but some became angry at World or LR when finished, but I can tell you my LR Eve was always honest about money with me, we never[/QUOTE]Takes a lot to get one of the least confrontational posters to go in on you. Yet here you are, still not listening to reason with administrators enabling your problems.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2557999]It is called intentionally setting up a false straw man to repeat your prior argument for no real purpose.

No one (at least not I) said a monger should skip a hot girl due to her ethnicity. If you can show me where I or someone else said so, I would be happy to see it. Like many men, I am happy to fuck hot girls (as I perceive them) regardless of their race.

What I did say was that based on my perusal of the girls on a specific site (seeking), many girls claiming to be white in Brazil do not have the same body structure as I perceive the White girls in some other countries do. That is MY perception. If you perceive differently, good for you.

For some reason, some guys took it upon themselves to be the keepers of Brazilian women and misrepresenting what I or others did say. Hypersensitive, are we?[/QUOTE]I mean, you have a history of misquoting others yourself with no admittance of error. Seems only fair.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2557987]Just laughable bullshit here from some telling story I gave 15 000 for gift to a prostitute..[/QUOTE]You yourself told the story, what is once on the internet never goes away. It must still sting. After all that is 300 sessions that you gave away.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2557809]Come on it makes total sense. Each one of the three 'grand tours' has 40,000-50,000 meters of climbing. At least 120,000 m for the three combined.

Spider Casanova rides 1000 km in a year, that makes something like 500 km uphill and 500 km downhill maximum.

If you ride only 24 % climbs, that's good![/QUOTE]LOL, I sure would like to see those 500 km of 24% climbs.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2557987]We only sometimes met and not much chatting ..[/QUOTE]So you have met and you have talked. McA just tries to tell you something in a nicer way. I can offer you the summary. You spend 15 hours in the club after the object of your obsession at the time, "you stare and try to initiate eye contact every time." You are "conducting surveillance". You are "like a dog." People "may observe your behavior and believe you fit the profile for an obsessive stalker."

You didn't boil the bunny yet, but you are getting there.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2558024]What a racist eurocentric mind that is revealed when the natives were there 10.000 years prior. Simpleton.[/QUOTE]LOL, look at the little snowflake.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2558048]You're a moron who has failed in the real world. It's funny to watch you create this safe space in your mind. Future Siri over here.[/QUOTE]Actually you're the moron who failed in the real world, you're unemployed, you got no friends, you spend all your time on ISG trolling and a majority of the France belongs to the Catholic Church. You're already at the same level as Siri.

[URL]https://www.britannica.com/place/France/Religion[/URL]

[URL]https://www.statista.com/statistics/459982/population-distribution-religion-france/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2558051]I mean, you have a history of misquoting others yourself with no admittance of error. Seems only fair.[/QUOTE]Nursenary is a little troll, and as everyone can see he freely admits that he's a lying scum bag.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2558051]I mean, you have a history of misquoting others yourself with no admittance of error. Seems only fair.[/QUOTE]Admission* of error.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2558051]I mean, you have a history of misquoting others yourself with no admittance of error. Seems only fair.[/QUOTE]Ah, Mr. Mursenary comes to help out his friend. Very touching.

Actually, I never misquoted" you. If I paraphrased you inaccurately, that was because I couldn't bother to go back pages and pages to get the exact quotes. But the key difference here is strawman.

Germany's brothels during the pandemic: [URL]https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-europe-57029723[/URL].

Woodman is very good to make this women look like tramps. When he plays in his own videos, he doesn't even bother to get his back waxed or to exercise a little bit and he fucks like a dog. All the actresses (including Casey N) look ten times better when they shoot with sexart, babes, nubile films and so on and at least the performer doesn't insult them and doesn't piss in their mouth. I wonder if the girl understands what he says since he speaks in French and if she agrees with it but honestly it makes him look like a real asshole and a poor weirdo who can only get excited when he mistreats the girl. I'd love to see him get kicked in the nuts by a girl.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2557584]Absolutely not because your phenacetin doesn't come from the tree bark.

Try to draw Venn diagrams, they're like big potatoes (mathematics for 14 yo but efficient).

Little potato A: paracetamol.

Bigger potato be which totally includes A: antipyretics.

Big potato see which intersects be but not A: natural medicines.

Got it?[/QUOTE]He's basically like your leprechaun friend. The words right in front of them will not matter because for them, admitting error means their false realities are deconstructed. But as we all can see, most of those types are cowards. Best you get from them is silence. Actually admission of consequential error? Never. Their fragile egos won't allow for that.

And then you have this fool who lives in Imagination Land. Even when the facts are printed right in front of him, he tries to say the contrary. No paracetamol from his own citation. Just bad reading comprehension from a self professed communications expert Machiavellian weather girl.

[QUOTE]It takes us back to ancient and medieval times, when the people existing in that era knew about antipyretic agents were actually the compounds contained in white willow bark of a tree majorly found in Central Asia and Europe, which is in fact family of chemicals Salicin, which similarly also leads to development of another famous drug Aspirin and also about compounds contained in South American native tree called cinchona. Later cinchona bark was also used to create the anti-malaria drug quinine. Like white willow bark, even quinine also has antipyretic effects. Various researches and programs were undertaken in mid and late nineteenth century in order to refine and isolate salicin and salicylic acid and was accomplished by Bayer chemist Felix Hoffmann.

Too much cutting down of cinchona tree led to its scarcity in the year 1880 and this led to people finding a replacement for it. Alternative antipyretic agents by the name of acetanilide and phenacetin were discovered in year 1886 and 1887 respectively.[/QUOTE]Anyway, he can't even spell a 4 letter word in his own language and tries to make up more lies about grammar to save face.

Who in here cares about his penis dribble rants about future / fringe science when he doesn't even comprehend current, tangible science. It's typical behavior of a fraud. This person wants the prestige and respect granted to those with skill and expertise but these frauds are too lazy to actually do the work to master the fundamentals.

His behavioral pattern is both ignorant and unethical. He's part of the masses that would have benefited from better parenting or even religious indoctrination.

[QUOTE=Oregon97;2557926][URL]https://sex-vienna.com/2021/05/06/sexclubs-seriously-have-to-stop-doing-this/[/URL][/QUOTE]Great post / link. Thanks!

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2558093]Actually you're the moron who failed in the real world, you're unemployed, you got no friends, you spend all your time on ISG trolling and a majority of the France belongs to the Catholic Church. You're already at the same level as Siri.

[URL]https://www.britannica.com/place/France/Religion[/URL]

[URL]https://www.statista.com/statistics/459982/population-distribution-religion-france/[/URL][/QUOTE]But I make more money than you. Strange metrics.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2558024]What a racist eurocentric mind that is revealed when the natives were there 10.000 years prior. Simpleton.[/QUOTE]And before the Asians entered through the bearing strait, there were people of African origin living in Central America. I suppose some racists killed off the Africans there at some point.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2558231]But I make more money than you. Strange metrics.[/QUOTE]1. Covid-19 payments to the American nurses is beyond economically reasonable. Even local nurses here have gone to USA to make 100.000 usd in a month. It has nothing to do with planned smartness. Only luck! And soon there will be a great reset with the usd. Did you bet on Dogecoin? If not, you are a joke!

2. Nothing strange about France being catholic. It is called history, and basic knowledge. I believe this is part of 2nd or 3rd grade primary school lectures across Europe!

[URL]https://face2faceafrica.com/article/why-the-olmec-civilization-in-south-america-is-from-the-african-gene-pool[/URL]

These original Olemc people in central America of African gene pool, were later killed off by the invading Asian racist tribes.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2558243]And before the Asians entered through the bearing strait, there were people of African origin living in Central America. I suppose some racists killed off the Africans there at some point.[/QUOTE]Talk to me when Omec theories become proof.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2558228]Because it is different in the US. In much of the world race issues are overt. In the US, it is much more clandestine and subtle. It is not like in the news where they suggest that black people are being killed in large numbers every day in the streets. The race issues comes from the fact that many Americans are not able to understand diversity of culture as well as the more culturally diverse Europe. Asia would be worse if it had more diversity in each country, but I can't think of an Asian country that faces the same diversity issues as a Western country.

Anyway, to me, Cane's post was more a critique on Colombian perceptions than American. The woman wanted to be perceived as white because her culture has taught her that fair skin was superior. That has nothing to do with America but Colombia's own endemic perception. Heck, Japan and other countries have the same problems. The Japanese are very critical of darker skin Asians such as those from SE Asia and the Pacific Islands. Hell Japanese and rich Chinese are some of the most racist people in the world. Heck, you have called me a brown monkey yourself.

Indigenous Americans' problems are far too removed from society's concern. Most native Americans live on their own reservations without much integration into mainstream society. That is one reason why you do not hear about them.[/QUOTE]For a guy who likes to play the race warrior on ISG, you do a fair amount of stereotyping when it suits you. All middle aged women are Karens. All women are high maintenance. Anyone older than you is a boomer and all White dudes are dorks. You keep bashing Siri about his language skills. I can't keep up with the slew of other insults that came forth from your keyboard. Other than MacAdonis and a couple of other pals, you have a running feud with one or other on this forum nonstop.

No doubt you will reply that I too did this and that; when I spoke about Brazilian women, it is in the context of mongering which is a relevant topic for this forum. If we are not allowed to talk about how women look in various mongering destinations, what else can we talk about? But your pet peeves are about bashing anyone who was mildly annoying towards you in high school and then combine that with every other stereotype that you take a fancy to at that moment.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2558231]But I make more money than you. Strange metrics.[/QUOTE]Dude, you don't even have a job. You're an unemployed loser, stop trolling. Get a life.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2558073]You yourself told the story, what is once on the internet never goes away. It must still sting. After all that is 300 sessions that you gave away.[/QUOTE]Did you see me? Did you read yourself I gave such money for nothing? Of course not, but you are just a repeater and you compete for bullshit with your bald fat French friend here.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2558049]Takes a lot to get one of the least confrontational posters to go in on you. Yet here you are, still not listening to reason with administrators enabling your problems.[/QUOTE]I just don't care what other guys think, brothels worth just for girls for me, when I have hard job to succeed to find a beauty on my standard. I just know most of girls return to repeat and I need they return to me, when I could not run after or wait for hours. Eyes contact is part of brothels game, but girls can choose not to play or go with others. Lucifer wanted so much I go with her, when she didn't want I leave the room after 15 mn at Palace, but I told her no on 3 times on this evening, and 1 month later, she came again at Velbert, but I was very friendly to let her free for you. Really laughable, prettiest and busiest girls go weekly for months with a guy who makes so big problems, or I must really be a pornstar, as say some, and insulting for me. But when finished, they are more angry about me, when they don't care much about many. When Mac informed my LR Eve, when she didn't know I was at LR, she could tell him: I m busy, no time for him, but not what she answered. I loved her behavior to always make free for me, delaying much bigger money than me. On week end I stopped, she was booked for whole week end, but she managed to make free to start with me as always, for a bad guy making problems, when not free for anybody else. Unfortunately, as she asked since a while: you don't like me anymore? When public exhibitions killed my desire. Never felt anymore desire for her, when I loved so much playing with her in bed. More interesting than just finding a hole to empty balls.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2558085]LOL, I sure would like to see those 500 km of 24% climbs.[/QUOTE]Didn't you read my great Summer tour below, like you read all, quite same than on last Summer but I wish to still being able to improve and of course in Loze now I know, with around 25 days climbing highest ranked, just for free and big pleasure, and no dopping but just my passion, no small hills like mur de Bretagne or even col des Saisies, I go only for the most difficult ranked, where Giro won't even climb Zoncolan from Ovaro, the real climbing, and tour de France climbing Mont Ventoux from easy Sault side, when I will climb more difficult from Malaucene. Look at profiles on climbike and try to experience about Newton, when I look forward my great Summer, just for pleasure.

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2558277]Dude, you don't even have a job. You're an unemployed loser, stop trolling. Get a life.[/QUOTE]LOL, telling a healthcare provider that they don't have a job during a pandemic. How wonderfully delusional. Still getting moderated on the American Politics board I see.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2558247]1. Covid-19 payments to the American nurses is beyond economically reasonable. Even local nurses here have gone to USA to make 100.000 usd in a month. It has nothing to do with planned smartness. Only luck! And soon there will be a great reset with the usd. Did you bet on Dogecoin? If not, you are a joke!

2. Nothing strange about France being catholic. It is called history, and basic knowledge. I believe this is part of 2nd or 3rd grade primary school lectures across Europe![/QUOTE]Good for the nurses, they deserve the money during this pandemic. How that pertains to me, no idea. Although 100,000 usd in a month is utter bullshit. No surprises coming from you also. Let me guess, waiting for your parents to die to get an inheritance?

Yeah, I put a little on dogecoin. $1000 turned into $30 K in 3 months. Beauty of US system. Lots of disposable income versus socialist Norway. Probably doesn't help that you're a 75 K menial task office worker. No skills, no value, and no money. I would try to live in Imagination Land if I had as little value as you.

Did you ever learn to spell a 4 letter word? Prolly not. Still can't read and can't admit that you misread your own source? Probably. Still ugly? Definitely.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2558294]I just don't care what other guys think, brothels worth just for girls for me, when I have hard[/QUOTE]Maybe you should start.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2558228]Because it is different in the US. In much of the world race issues are overt. In the US, it is much more clandestine and subtle. It is not like in the news where they suggest that black people are being killed in large numbers every day in the streets. The race issues comes from the fact that many Americans are not able to understand diversity of culture as well as the more culturally diverse Europe. Asia would be worse if it had more diversity in each country, but I can't think of an Asian country that faces the same diversity issues as a Western country..[/QUOTE]In South East Asia, they have diversity, like Thailand for example, it is actually very mixed race nations yet they do not have racial issue. But it is fair point that quite many Americans do not understand diverse cultures of the world, but only accept their culture, that is not so in bigger cities like NYC, LA, Chicago, Vegas etc, but what intrigue me is that I have been to USA quite a lot and stayed around in various city, talking to people, I never ever faced any racism, but I actually found people to be most friendly of all the places I went to around world, I mean you can go and drink coffee and have nice conversation with random stranger in USA.

As for native Indians reservation, well it is called reservation, but it is abandon land middle of no where with bunch of trailer houses. I mean that is more like concentration camp of 20th and 21st century of just keep them in middle of nowhere. Well I just found it funny how some white politicians in USA are making speech about how they welcome other races and I always inside think to my self, it is not up you to say, but more native Indians position to say. I just think US racial issues more to do with how the country is founded, it was founded by force with guns! So guns are still there and tensions are subtly still there under the surface and it comes up during certain situations in life when police arrest certain people with certain race etc.

Anyways, all this is out of window in FKK, FKK is happy place!

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2558262]For a guy who likes to play the race warrior on ISG, you do a fair amount of stereotyping when it suits you. All middle aged women are Karens. All women are high maintenance. Anyone older than you is a boomer and all White dudes are dorks. You keep bashing Siri about his language skills. I can't keep up with the slew of other insults that came forth from your keyboard. Other than MacAdonis and a couple of other pals, you have a running feud with one or other on this forum nonstop.

No doubt you will reply that I too did this and that; when I spoke about Brazilian women, it is in the context of mongering which is a relevant topic for this forum. If we are not allowed to talk about how women look in various mongering destinations, what else can we talk about? But your pet peeves are about bashing anyone who was mildly annoying towards you in high school and then combine that with every other stereotype that you take a fancy to at that moment.[/QUOTE]Strange that you got worked up over a post that was pretty harmless. Strange that a few uses of Karen means to you that I said All middle age. Strange that calling a couple women who I personally know to be high maintenance means all women. Strange that using the term OK boomer a couple of times means I am ageist. Makes your claim of race warrior seems to be a little disingenuous. What's funny is that you also hold negative attitudes towards the same people with whom I feud but you're unable to parse your personally feelings from your logical mind. You seem to be a man who thinks with his emotions. Sounds like a waste of having balls between your legs.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2558199]Woodman is very good to make this women look like tramps. When he plays in his own videos, he doesn't even bother to get his back waxed or to exercise a little bit and he fucks like a dog. All the actresses (including Casey N) look ten times better when they shoot with sexart, babes, nubile films and so on and at least the performer doesn't insult them and doesn't piss in their mouth. I wonder if the girl understands what he says since he speaks in French and if she agrees with it but honestly it makes him look like a real asshole and a poor weirdo who can only get excited when he mistreats the girl. I'd love to see him get kicked in the nuts by a girl.[/QUOTE]Yeah this chien! Chien! Suka! LOL! He also speak in Russian too LOL Pierre Woodman is the pride of French men LOL!

I think people like woodman as he get the porn stars at the very beginning of their career with limited make up, so those who are pretty are the natural beauty in there and woodman just exploit them LOL! Savage! That is the way to roll in FKK LOL! Fuck them hardcore! Go hard in FKK or go home LOL! There is no negotiation, you just do it, do it like Woodman LOL!

[QUOTE=TheCane;2558192]Germany's brothels during the pandemic: [URL]https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-europe-57029723[/URL].[/QUOTE]It is good that mass media often just only broadcast street and not FKK, imagine they broadcast FKK all the time, one it will be packed with new mongers who did not know as many people do not know about FKK or think of it as what most people think of brothels just bunch of ugly old girls and also two more attention by mass media in anyways lead to more attention from government to target such place to raise their popularity etc.

I wonder how most of our regulars and stunner girls are living now, but I guess they have regular clients to support them during pandemic doing escort work! But prostitutes in Germany supposed to be registered are official, so government should give them life support basic income!

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2558085]LOL, I sure would like to see those 500 km of 24% climbs.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2558312]Didn't you read my great Summer tour below, like you read all, [/QUOTE]You would need 500 km of [B]average 24%[/B], not some 200 m ramp of 24%. With rare exceptions all the long climbs have average of 4% - 8%. Pesky math. Here is one example from climbbybike, Col de la Loze via Meribel 23.4 km, average 7.3%, max slope 18%, Col de la Loze via Courchevel 26 km, average 6. 5%.

Plus don't forget, nobody believes you. Just because you looked up climbs on [URL]climbbybike.net[/URL].

[QUOTE=MrHo;2558367]In South East Asia, they have diversity, like Thailand for example, it is actually very mixed race nations yet they do not have racial issue. But it is fair point that quite many Americans do not understand diverse cultures of the world, but only accept their culture, that is not so in bigger cities like NYC, LA, Chicago, Vegas etc, but what intrigue me is that I have been to USA quite a lot and stayed around in various city, talking to people, I never ever faced any racism, but I actually found people to be most friendly of all the places I went to around world, I mean you can go and drink coffee and have nice conversation with random stranger in USA.

As for native Indians reservation, well it is called reservation, but it is abandon land middle of no where with bunch of trailer houses. I mean that is more like concentration camp of 20th and 21st century of just keep them in middle of nowhere. Well I just found it funny how some white politicians in USA are making speech about how they welcome other races and I always inside think to my self, it is not up you to say, but more native Indians position to say. I just think US racial issues more to do with how the country is founded, it was founded by force with guns! So guns are still there and tensions are subtly still there under the surface and it comes up during certain situations in life when police arrest certain people with certain race etc.

Anyways, all this is out of window in FKK, FKK is happy place![/QUOTE]So Thailand is more mixed than Japan, Korea, and coastal China but it is not as mixed as the west. But even in Thailand, there is a lot of racism and prejudice between native fair skin Thais and dark skin Thais. It gets even worse when they speak about the dark South Asian types like the people from Burma. Indonesian Muslims are basically social outcasts. And there is an ongoing resentment toward the Chinese, first toward the poor Chinese refugees and now against new the Chinese elitist class. So racism in Thailand is very much present, it's just a culture where at one end, the minority group must lay down and take it because Thai culture, while friendly, reminds ethnic foreigners when they are present, that Thailand is a sovereign nation with a distinctly Thai culture.

America was redesigned to advertise that we are a melting pot of nations and cultures. How true that is and how authentic is that mission statement is a little questionable at the moment. Chances of a Native American.

Culture was basically eliminated on Day 1. They have about as much chances of impacting American culture as Neanderthal culture has on Europe.

But as for current day issues is the US, they have always been here. It was just not brought up to the surface before. So if you were above a certain social-economic threshold, you never had to deal with it or even see it in your face. Yes, the average American is more approachable than the average European (other than Southern Europe), but these days in 2021, I'm not so sure we're as nice to each other as we used to be. That is especially true in big cities.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2558369]Strange that you got worked up over a post that was pretty harmless. Strange that a few uses of Karen means to you that I said All middle age. Strange that calling a couple women who I personally know to be high maintenance means all women. Strange that using the term OK boomer a couple of times means I am ageist. Makes your claim of race warrior seems to be a little disingenuous. What's funny is that you also hold negative attitudes towards the same people with whom I feud but you're unable to parse your personally feelings from your logical mind. You seem to be a man who thinks with his emotions. Sounds like a waste of having balls between your legs.[/QUOTE]The only strange thing is that you rationalize your perverse biases but accuse others. I may or may not disagree with some or many people here on some or all issues. But it is a waste of time to keep arguing. Other than with you, I haven't argued with many others constantly; even with you, it is only because you just have a habit of picking up some mud and throwing at passersby. I am almost tempted to click ignore user just to save myself some time but it won't do much good if I read the forum w / o logging in. As for you accusing me of being emotional, that is a bit rich given the hundreds of screaming fights you seem to have with practically every member here.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2558247]2. Nothing strange about France being catholic. It is called history, and basic knowledge. I believe this is part of 2nd or 3rd grade primary school lectures across Europe![/QUOTE]Yes it was the case until the beginning of the 20th century. Not anymore.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2558357]LOL, telling a healthcare provider that they don't have a job during a pandemic. How wonderfully delusional. Still getting moderated on the American Politics board I see.[/QUOTE]Stop fantasizing, you spend all your awake time on ISG and you still live in your mother's basement. You're pathetic, just admit it. You're unemployed, you don't have any friends and you most certainly have never fucked a girl you didn't pay.

It's hilarious how you claim to be a "healthcare provider" in a "pandemic" yet you have multiple troll accounts and post more comments than anyone else on this site. Too bad all of your comments are insults and irrelevant BS.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2558359]Good for the nurses, they deserve the money during this pandemic. How that pertains to me, no idea. Although 100,000 usd in a month is utter bullshit. No surprises coming from you also. Let me guess, waiting for your parents to die to get an inheritance?

Yeah, I put a little on dogecoin. $1000 turned into $30 K in 3 months. Beauty of US system. Lots of disposable income versus socialist Norway. Probably doesn't help that you're a 75 K menial task office worker. No skills, no value, and no money. I would try to live in Imagination Land if I had as little value as you.

Did you ever learn to spell a 4 letter word? Prolly not. Still can't read and can't admit that you misread your own source? Probably. Still ugly? Definitely.[/QUOTE]This is hilarious, Norway is way richer than the US. You're poor and ignorant.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2558363]Maybe you should start.[/QUOTE]When I see guys in brothels, I really don't need. I prefer to focus on girls rather than looking at other guys, and I find interesting eyes contact game, when girls are free to play or not. I remember busy superstar Kate at Globe but she looked at what I did, or Kate reaction on a night at Velbert when I drove from Palace leaving Lucifer after 15 mn. Girls reactions and behavior are the most interesting, much more than guys. I let You making this level of friends there and here, I don't need this.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2558256]Talk to me when Omec theories become proof.[/QUOTE]Learn to type first! OLMEC.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2558359]Yeah, I put a little on dogecoin. $1000 turned into $30 K in 3 months. Beauty of US system. Lots of disposable income versus socialist Norway. Probably doesn't help that you're a 75 K menial task office worker. No skills, no value, and no money. I would try to live in Imagination Land if I had as little value as you.[/QUOTE]No you didn't! If you had known anything about cryptocurrencies at all, let alone have invested in one you would have known a few things.

1. They are not a part of a US system.

2. Heck bitcoin, the largest currency was developed by a Japanese or an Australian guy. Ethereum was developed by a Russian dude. Dogecoin was made as a joke on behalf of all currencies. So a joke on all systems.

3. If you bet on the joke regarding what you call the US system, and then go on to cheer on the US system, you must be clueless as to what you are talking about.

4. The currency system is anything but American. The only innovative thing done by the US is to link the usd more to the oil price, but even that is up for debate as the Germans tried some of the same although failing at it. Everything else has been done ad nauseum by former world leading currencies: pound, shilling, etc etc back through history.

So, you have 0 Dogecoins. You lie has been found out!

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2557682]Golden Time Vienna is not open, nor Wellcum and wont very soon, just read Massimo. [/QUOTE]They forgot to ask your opinion I suppose, after all it's you who knows everything about anything without any sources.

About GT Vienna Massimo said "Openings seem realistic".

Wellcum now says they are opening on 29 May:

[QUOTE=Maxime;2558479]See here: [URL]https://www.instagram.com/p/COteOYqMpb4/?igshid=b1pz2bjdtnul[/URL].[/QUOTE]How does it feel to be always wrong?

OMG how much I miss FKK, Partytreffs, GBs Party. Normally during this time, I could book a sort holiday spending a few days in FKK spending hours outside sunbathing on the Lounger for the whole day. You could enjoy Hotel class Food, barbeques, drinks, exotic meats (puss1es) are available for you to enjoy for the whole day.

Where anywhere else could you have that experience?? The only one that could match is probably a specially programmed cruiselines full of escorts and/or swingers onboard. But for this it will cost you a fortune, so ordinary Joe will not be able to enjoy that sort of world class experience.

I got angry, frustrated as COVID-19 have taken all of this from me. They have taken the job, the essential supply lines for survival of the FKK girls. The government who are responsible spreading the deadly virus still do not want to learn, to listen, do not accept criticism. Almost every deadly pandemic come from this country and they keep consuming dogs, bats, rats, snakes, pangolins, tigers, etc as they do not want to learn, to listen, do not accept criticism.

I think we should campaign for them to adapt their diet; they should eat more exotic meats such as puss1es, arses. But the main problem with China is that there are a lack of supplies of these exotic meats due to single child policy where chinese people will prefer a boy rather than a girl. So when these exotic meats are made abundant and know how good they are they will stop eating dogs, bats, rats, snakes, pangolins, tigers, etc and eating more puss1es. The world will be better with less pandemic.

They get more puss1es when they start opening their border and make it easy to open brothels and invite people from neighbouring Asian countries such as Vietnam, Cambodia, Miammar, Thailand, etc. What do you think??

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2558088]So you have met and you have talked. McA just tries to tell you something in a nicer way. I can offer you the summary. You spend 15 hours in the club after the object of your obsession at the time, "you stare and try to initiate eye contact every time." You are "conducting surveillance"...[/QUOTE]My modus operandi when I enter an FKK is to first eat then grab a drink. I then chill out at a convenient location and conduct surveillance during which I identify all the girls I wish to copulate with in order of priority. I relax and when my food is digested and I feel ready to go into action I embark on hunting mode when I go after the top priority. If that does not work out I go after the next on the list until I head to the room. After that I eat again and drink and then relax until I'm ready for round two which will be a girl on the priority list or a girl who may have arrived after my first session who may have jumped the line on the priority list. Then its off to round two. In my younger years there would have been a round three and even round four. Imagine if I was in my twenties and going with ten FKK girls in one visit!

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2558359]Good for the nurses, they deserve the money during this pandemic. How that pertains to me, no idea. Although 100,000 usd in a month is utter bullshit. No surprises coming from you also. Let me guess, waiting for your parents to die to get an inheritance?

Yeah, I put a little on dogecoin. $1000 turned into $30 K in 3 months. Beauty of US system. Lots of disposable income versus socialist Norway. Probably doesn't help that you're a 75 K menial task office worker. No skills, no value, and no money. I would try to live in Imagination Land if I had as little value as you.

Did you ever learn to spell a 4 letter word? Prolly not. Still can't read and can't admit that you misread your own source? Probably. Still ugly? Definitely.[/QUOTE]Yes, this "US system" is so "beautiful" that US mongers need to fly to Europe to fuck some pussy! LOL! It's so 'free' and 'great' that the ISG server is based in The Netherlands! (note the. NL at the end of the web address).

And talking about socialism: what do you call the Federal Reserve determining interest rates and GOP / DNC politicians excelling in subsidising their favourite financial, military and pharmaceutical industries? What do you call Obama bailing out General Motors, AIG, and Freddie Mac / Fannie Mae? What do you call Trump launching trade wars and imposing tariffs against China? What do you call the US trying to block the North Stream 2 gas pipeline and imposing sanctions on Russia and EU companies that do business with Russia? It's the same socialist central planning, you moron! HAHAHAHA! [URL]https://youtu.be/cC-1ihrOs1E[/URL].

Stick to your medical 'wisdom' and impressing your little 'fan club' (PiZ, BB69 etc) on a sex forum, because you clearly still haven't figured out how the 'real-world-for-grown-ups' works! LOL!

[QUOTE=Turgid;2558530]My modus operandi when I enter an FKK is to first eat then grab a drink. I then chill out at a convenient location and conduct surveillance during which I identify all the girls I wish to copulate with in order of priority. I relax and when my food is digested and I feel ready to go into action I embark on hunting mode when I go after the top priority. If that does not work out I go after the next on the list until I head to the room. After that I eat again and drink and then relax until I'm ready for round two which will be a girl on the priority list or a girl who may have arrived after my first session who may have jumped the line on the priority list. Then its off to round two. In my younger years there would have been a round three and even round four. Imagine if I was in my twenties and going with ten FKK girls in one visit![/QUOTE]I like to arrive around 4 in the afternoon. I get into my robe and go take a shower. Next, I grab a drink and check out the facilities, especially if I have not been in the club for awhile. And while I'm walking around checking the place out, of course I'm checking the talent out too, as they are me. If I see somebody I got to have (rare and happens maybe only once a trip), I will approach her. If not, then I park it somewhere and wait for the hungry tutes to come to me (I will move around from time to time). If I like her, we go to the room. If not, then we don't. After the first session, I will shower again. If food is available, I may have something light to eat. And of course, another drink, and repeat process. Definitely by the time dinner time rolls around I will eat something. And another drink! My ideal is three sessions for the day. But, sometimes I don't see three I want. Sometimes I don't see anybody, and sometimes it's more than three (I take a mental note for my return visit to the club in a few days). This is how I do. It allows me to keep going over a 10-day to two week (or more) trip while staying within a workable budget for me.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2558359]Yeah, I put a little on dogecoin. $1000 turned into $30 K in 3 months.[/QUOTE]Is that what they teach you in CCP Troll School?

CCP Instructor: "add to your credibility, by claiming participation in recent financial developments. ".

It's easy to look at a recent success story and then 'claim credibility' by pretending that you participated in this, but you would have been believable if you told people 3 months AGO that you put $1000 into DogeCoin! LOL!

You're just as pathetic as that James-Bond-mountain-climbing Frenchman! Hahahaha!

[QUOTE=MrHo;2558378]It is good that mass media often just only broadcast street and not FKK, imagine they broadcast FKK all the time, one it will be packed with new mongers[/QUOTE]It would be the end of the world as we know it once the stag do's find the FKK's but I'm thinking they don't dare too even if they knew. Getting a lap dance in a red light district or flirting with local girls whilst stupidly drunk can be explained away but going to a FKK not.

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2558548]Is that what they teach you in CCP Troll School?

CCP Instructor: "add to your credibility, by claiming participation in recent financial developments. ".

It's easy to look at a recent success story and then 'claim credibility' by pretending that you participated in this, but you would have been believable if you told people 3 months AGO that you put $1000 into DogeCoin! LOL!

You're just as pathetic as that James-Bond-mountain-climbing Frenchman! Hahahaha![/QUOTE]Yes. America pop news story in January 2021: SuperBowl Dogecoin commercial: Dogecoin to the moon? $1000 in Dogecoin. Not exactly a large investment or a difficult decision. But you wouldn't understand.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2558359]Good for the nurses, they deserve the money during this pandemic. How that pertains to me, no idea. Although 100,000 usd in a month is utter bullshit. No surprises coming from you also. Let me guess, waiting for your parents to die to get an inheritance?

Yeah, I put a little on dogecoin. $1000 turned into $30 K in 3 months. Beauty of US system. Lots of disposable income versus socialist Norway. Probably doesn't help that you're a 75 K menial task office worker. No skills, no value, and no money. I would try to live in Imagination Land if I had as little value as you.

Did you ever learn to spell a 4 letter word? Prolly not. Still can't read and can't admit that you misread your own source? Probably. Still ugly? Definitely.[/QUOTE]You are really a great investor, I think Warren Buffet is afraid by your performance.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2558530]My modus operandi when I enter an FKK is to first eat then grab a drink. I then chill out at a convenient location and conduct surveillance during which I identify all the girls I wish to copulate with in order of priority. I relax and when my food is digested and I feel ready to go into action I embark on hunting mode when I go after the top priority. If that does not work out I go after the next on the list until I head to the room. After that I eat again and drink and then relax until I'm ready for round two which will be a girl on the priority list or a girl who may have arrived after my first session who may have jumped the line on the priority list. Then its off to round two. In my younger years there would have been a round three and even round four. Imagine if I was in my twenties and going with ten FKK girls in one visit![/QUOTE]Same for me, eating first before sport, girls can wait a bit like did Megan at Sharks when she wanted I started with her, but I can perform as soon finishing eating, after popo but I don't ask girls to wash me, and when I m motivated, 3 rooms at GT Vienna on last July between 6 pm with Anita for who I drove and 1 am for third with wow Iranian, just easy, desire make me hard without needing Viagra, my sports make me powerful for sex, and finished fluently on 3 rooms. With my best ever FKK girl, I always finished fluently for about 70 rooms, sometimes 3 rooms on week end for about 4 hours and then I started not to finish anymore, so she asked me: you don't like me anymore? But not reason why I stopped, even woman images excite me more than prostitute images, but I was still hard to fuck her, but probably not anymore same pleasure in mind.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2558490]They forgot to ask your opinion I suppose, after all it's you who knows everything about anything without any sources.

About GT Vienna Massimo said "Openings seem realistic".

Wellcum now says they are opening on 29 May:

How does it feel to be always wrong?[/QUOTE]Just let s wait and see. For sure brothels want to open, but will they be allowed by administration? I m sure Ingo would like to open Globe, when History and Westside are open since months, but does he decide? When I m sure he has very good contacts. In Germany, Finca with Hells behind claimed to open on June 2020 , but never opened, when some other German brothels reopened. Austria only reopened on beginning of July on 2020, but with no mask nor test asked.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2558385]You would need 500 km of [B]average 24%[/B], not some 200 m ramp of 24%. With rare exceptions all the long climbs have average of 4% - 8%. Pesky math. Here is one example from climbbybike, Col de la Loze via Meribel 23.4 km, average 7.3%, max slope 18%, Col de la Loze via Courchevel 26 km, average 6. 5%.

Plus don't forget, nobody believes you. Just because you looked up climbs on [URL]climbbybike.net[/URL].[/QUOTE]Famous Loze part is above Meribel. Look at Zoncolan from Ovaro with 2 kms which are steeper than 19% on average for 1 km, when Giro will climb easier other side, when professionnals don't like from Ovaro, too difficult as they say. Poggio or Huy are for babies compare to my tour climbings and rather than bullshitting, just come with me when I already proposed you on many posts, when I never saw a carbon light bicycle climbing alone, when I will be on Gran San Bernardino Swiss side on 15/20 August. I will enjoy my climbings and furthermore when I know make me powerful hard with girls. No followers never seen there.

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2558536]Yes, this "US system" is so "beautiful" that US mongers need to fly to Europe to fuck some pussy! LOL! It's so 'free' and 'great' that the ISG server is based in The Netherlands! (note the. NL at the end of the web address).

And talking about socialism: what do you call the Federal Reserve determining interest rates and GOP / DNC politicians excelling in subsidising their favourite financial, military and pharmaceutical industries? What do you call Obama bailing out General Motors, AIG, and Freddie Mac / Fannie Mae? What do you call Trump launching trade wars and imposing tariffs against China? What do you call the US trying to block the North Stream 2 gas pipeline and imposing sanctions on Russia and EU companies that do business with Russia? It's the same socialist central planning, you moron! HAHAHAHA! [URL]https://youtu.be/cC-1ihrOs1E[/URL].

Stick to your medical 'wisdom' and impressing your little 'fan club' (PiZ, BB69 etc) on a sex forum, because you clearly still haven't figured out how the 'real-world-for-grown-ups' works! LOL![/QUOTE]It was a commentary on income generation in the US. That's all.

I have no fans. People are free to think. Others are free to criticize. We're not fascist here.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2558478]Learn to type first! OLMEC.[/QUOTE]I admit to a misspelling, you insist on Zews. We are not the same.

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2558619]You are really a great investor, I think Warren Buffet is afraid by your performance.[/QUOTE]It was a nice lottery ticket. That's all. No claims otherwise.

Another retail player with perfect hindsight throwing darts of predictable brand names. Centene / Wellspring made 800% gain in 8 years, some of the others in pharma, privately owned by PE made even more. None of this was shared with the non-scalable and replaceable coal face labor (add Amazon and UBER slaves to that, and probably most union labor too) that has no pricing power, and mostly no clue about swaps, 144 As, straddles, CDOs sidecars etc. They not only don't get invited to the table, they don't even know the table exists. And that differential will only get greater as automation / outsourcing / selling visa and falling real share of labor continues to fall.

If you think that's rich, LIBOR via the unlimited FED is currently 0. 026% and on re-priced at about 3% (allowing for all the made up fees) on mortgages and 20% credit cards to the players. The do inverse log: 1,200% (or more) p / a tax free ROI, and for the most part they sell it off as fast as they mint it and pocket the NPV. DE Shaw, Blackstone and Renaissance have been the new aristocracy for a while and don't give a damn about primped up butlers and footmen (meaning most professionals and anyone selling labor with their middle class delusions and thin veneer of status).

[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2558739]Another retail player with perfect hindsight throwing darts of predictable brand names.[/QUOTE]Exactly, and then doing the most pathetic thing ever: bragging about it!

He would have been a real hero if he said 3 month ago what he was doing, so then he could have said "told-you-so. " Instead, the 'Murse' decided to invent a story by looking at what's going up today, and pretend he bought it 3 months ago, in order to increase his credibility and show the entire ISG 'cummunity' how 'smart' he is! Hahaha!

Hey 'Murse' why don't you add some more to your credibility and explain us how your 'Covid-Vaccination-and-Lockdown-Cult' doing? LOL!

[URL]https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-05-04/world-s-most-vaccinated-nation-reintroduces-curbs-as-cases-surge[/URL]

[QUOTE]World’s Most-Vaccinated Nation Activates Curbs as Cases Rise

Seychelles, which has fully vaccinated more of its population against the coronavirus than any other country, has closed schools and canceled sporting activities for two weeks as infections surge.[/QUOTE][QUOTE]By April 12, 59% of the doses administered were Sinopharm vaccines and the rest were Covishield, a version of AstraZeneca Plc’s shot made under license in India.[/QUOTE]Gee, AstraZeneca?! Garbage Chinese vaccines?! Cases rising again? Who would have thought.

[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2558739]Another retail player with perfect hindsight throwing darts of predictable brand names. Centene / Wellspring made 800% gain in 8 years, some of the others in pharma, privately owned by PE made even more. None of this was shared with the non-scalable and replaceable coal face labor (add Amazon and UBER slaves to that, and probably most union labor too) that has no pricing power, and mostly no clue about swaps, 144 As, straddles, CDOs sidecars etc. They not only don't get invited to the table, they don't even know the table exists. And that differential will only get greater as automation / outsourcing / selling visa and falling real share of labor continues to fall.

If you think that's rich, LIBOR via the unlimited FED is currently 0. 026% and on re-priced at about 3% (allowing for all the made up fees) on mortgages and 20% credit cards to the players. The do inverse log: 1,200% (or more) p / a tax free ROI, and for the most part they sell it off as fast as they mint it and pocket the NPV. DE Shaw, Blackstone and Renaissance have been the new aristocracy for a while and don't give a damn about primped up butlers and footmen (meaning most professionals and anyone selling labor with their middle class delusions and thin veneer of status).[/QUOTE]Would day allow one on this site.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2558483] No you didn't! If you had known anything about cryptocurrencies at all, let alone have invested in one you would have known a few things.

1. They are not a part of a US system.

2. Heck bitcoin, the largest currency was developed by a Japanese or an Australian guy. Ethereum was developed by a Russian dude. Dogecoin was made as a joke on behalf of all currencies. So a joke on all systems.

3. If you bet on the joke regarding what you call the US system, and then go on to cheer on the US system, you must be clueless as to what you are talking about.

4. The currency system is anything but American. The only innovative thing done by the US is to link the usd more to the oil price, but even that is up for debate as the Germans tried some of the same although failing at it. Everything else has been done ad nauseum by former world leading currencies: pound, shilling, etc etc back through history.

So, you have 0 Dogecoins. You lie has been found out![/QUOTE]Wow, exclamations. You must be really upset that you missed out on easy cash.

But again, another reading comprehension fail for a comm major, proving that you wasted tens of thousands of your Daddy's dollars. I merely stated that Americans had more disposable income to invest. But since you "can't read so good," you wasted your time with this diatribe.

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2558789]Exactly, and then doing the most pathetic thing ever: bragging about it!

He would have been a real hero if he said 3 month ago what he was doing, so then he could have said "told-you-so. " Instead, the 'Murse' decided to invent a story by looking at what's going up today, and pretend he bought it 3 months ago, in order to increase his credibility and show the entire ISG 'cummunity' how 'smart' he is! Hahaha!

Hey 'Murse' why don't you add some more to your credibility and explain us how your 'Covid-Vaccination-and-Lockdown-Cult' doing? LOL!


Gee, AstraZeneca?! Garbage Chinese vaccines?! Cases rising again? Who would have thought.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2558739]Another retail player with perfect hindsight throwing darts of predictable brand names. Centene / Wellspring made 800% gain in 8 years, some of the others in pharma, privately owned by PE made even more. None of this was shared with the non-scalable and replaceable coal face labor (add Amazon and UBER slaves [/QUOTE]Didn't think men participating in international hookering would get all bent out of shape about a $1000 lotto ticket, as if $1000 is anything more than weekend of bar tabs. For the people who deem that statement (which was made in response to an accusation) as a brag, I suggest getting your finances in order before your next hooker.

These accusations of bragging to be an investment expert or financial philosophy diatribes must come from some pretty insecure men. Sorry to have brought out those feels. It's okay guys, it's only money.

As for the vaccination cult life? Still going wonderfully over here in the Florida Keys. But you keep up the good fight over wherever the hell you are. Vive La Resistance!

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2558413]The only strange thing is that you rationalize your perverse biases but accuse others. I may or may not disagree with some or many people here on some or all issues. But it is a waste of time to keep arguing. Other than with you, I haven't argued with many others constantly; even with you, it is only because you just have a habit of picking up some mud and throwing at passersby. I am almost tempted to click ignore user just to save myself some time but it won't do much good if I read the forum w / o logging in. As for you accusing me of being emotional, that is a bit rich given the hundreds of screaming fights you seem to have with practically every member here.[/QUOTE]Ok Boomer.

Like I said. I'm an asshole. But I'm okay with that. The difference is that I know I walk the walk and stay on the side of objectivity. You however seem to let your personal feelings sway your judgement and cloud objective integration of facts.

Very feminine.

But what's wrong with that right? It's 2021. Hashtag MeToo. Being called feminine shouldn't be an insult to you right?

BTW, do you only have one level? Like, is this office energy all you've got? It's okay, we all have varying degrees of personality depth. If this manicured, corporate attitude persona is all you have, that is certainly okay.

Personally I think you and I actually agree on 80-90% of these topics. Unfortunately, you got very insulted at being called out for verbiage promoting religious persecution in the 21st century. It's a similar energy when you are proven wrong during various conversations. It seems that people tarnishing your groomed online persona is one of your hang ups. Relax. Welcome to the internet Boomer. It only gets worse from here. But Karen, since you're here, would you like to speaker to the manager? (Remember: wipe the vagina from front to back to avoid recto-vaginal UTIs).

[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2558739]If you think that's rich, LIBOR via the unlimited FED is currently 0. 026% and on re-priced at about 3% (allowing for all the made up fees) on mortgages and 20% credit cards to the players. The do inverse log: 1,200% (or more) p / a tax free ROI, and for the most part they sell it off as fast as they mint it and pocket the NPV. DE Shaw, Blackstone and Renaissance have been the new aristocracy for a while and don't give a damn about primped up butlers and footmen (meaning most professionals and anyone selling labor with their middle class delusions and thin veneer of status).[/QUOTE]You might want to reign that back. We're talking about a five figure cash grab, not an invitation to join the Bilderberg group.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2558461]When I see guys in brothels, I really don't need. I prefer to focus on girls rather than looking at other guys, and I find interesting eyes contact game, when girls are free to play or not. I remember busy superstar Kate at Globe but she looked at what I did, or Kate reaction on a night at Velbert when I drove from Palace leaving Lucifer after 15 mn. Girls reactions and behavior are the most interesting, much more than guys. I let You making this level of friends there and here, I don't need this.[/QUOTE]Calling more bullshit.

You can look down on everyone, fine. But why have you been here this past year when fkks have mostly been closed. There seems to be 2 major sides developing in this thread and both have recognized their distaste for you. What reason does one have to stick around here getting blasted by those who you consider to be "low-level people". Hell, even as the Lounge board is setting off with actual conversation about women, you prefer to stay here. And when you do speak on other threads, it adds nothing novel to the conversation.

But again, why do you write on here, telling the same stories for the past 8 years when there are no FKKs and you don't even like the people?

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2558432]This is hilarious, Norway is way richer than the US. You're poor and ignorant.[/QUOTE]Well that's an incorrect statement.

Yes, the average Norwegian generates more income than the average American. Norway no.

And our representative from Norway certainly does not generate much.

[QUOTE=Sailor501;2558813]Would day allow one on this site.[/QUOTE]Would be interesting to see how mongers invest, and if there are certain trends. But my experience about investment internet discussion boards, the less exclusivity, the more garbage information.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2558413]The only strange thing is that you rationalize your perverse biases but accuse others. I may or may not disagree with some or many people here on some or all issues. But it is a waste of time to keep arguing. Other than with you, I haven't argued with many others constantly; even with you, it is only because you just have a habit of picking up some mud and throwing at passersby. I am almost tempted to click ignore user just to save myself some time but it won't do much good if I read the forum w / o logging in. As for you accusing me of being emotional, that is a bit rich given the hundreds of screaming fights you seem to have with practically every member here.[/QUOTE]To top it all off, I actually intentionally laid off of you for these past couple of weeks, directing attention to actual crazies. I was thinking that perhaps you moved past your personal feelings and could approach things with a calm mind. But recent posts have revealed otherwise.

You came out screaming out of the closet with some garbage rant about calling all women high maintenance. And then some unrelated rant in a response to a post that targeted no one. A post that merely said the racism seen in Europe is more overt than the subtle racism seen in America. And that East Asia does not have as much racial diversity so racism is less visible. And that in amongst many Asians, there exists a prejudice towards darker skin Asians due to historical association with the poor, working class. Most Asians from Asia will confirm that cultural bias themselves. For some reason that post seemed to have set you off.

If an apology from me will set things straight, no problem.

[B]I am sorry for calling you out and hurting your feelings[/B]

P.S,

1. I tried the ignore button approach. Your page would just be littered with ignore status notifications while others will often quote the user's posts, making the garbage visible to you anyway.

2. Most browsers have the option of having your browser remember your login credentials. Try using the password manager to easily ignore posts with just one extra click as soon as the URL loads. You'll only see my posts in quotes and italics, yay!

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2558631]Just let s wait and see. For sure brothels want to open, but will they be allowed by administration? I m sure Ingo would like to open Globe, when History and Westside are open since months, but does he decide? When I m sure he has very good contacts. In Germany, Finca with Hells behind claimed to open on June 2020 , but never opened, when some other German brothels reopened. Austria only reopened on beginning of July on 2020, but with no mask nor test asked.[/QUOTE]GT opening in one week and Wellcum opening on 29 May have nothing to do with when Austria opened last year or when clubs opened or didn't open in Germany last year or when clubs in ZH will open. It's about the situation now, in 2021 and about those 2 clubs only. My initial post was just "look, on the GT website they say they are opening on 19 May".

I just like to point out to the casual reader of this site that you have [B]ZERO credibility.[/B] You live all alone in your own personal fantasy world and you keep repeating to yourself all your stories about you and WGs, all your stories about your cycling and skiing like a broken record. [B]ZERO credibility[/B].

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2558933]Calling more bullshit.

You can look down on everyone, fine. But why have you been here this past year when fkks have mostly been closed. There seems to be 2 major sides developing in this thread and both have recognized their distaste for you. What reason does one have to stick around here getting blasted by those who you consider to be "low-level people". Hell, even as the Lounge board is setting off with actual conversation about women, you prefer to stay here. And when you do speak on other threads, it adds nothing novel to the conversation.

But again, why do you write on here, telling the same stories for the past 8 years when there are no FKKs and you don't even like the people?[/QUOTE]Initially I felt pity for him, but ignoring him doesn't make it stop, he just posts the same crap since years.

He has some major insecurities and keeps repeating to himself made up stories to try to feel good about himself, at the same time he likes being gangbanged. I wouldn't be surprised if he likes being pegged.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2558945]To top it all off, I actually intentionally laid off of you for these past couple of weeks, directing attention to actual crazies. I was thinking that perhaps you moved past your personal feelings and could approach things with a calm mind. But recent posts have revealed otherwise.

You came out screaming out of the closet with some garbage rant about calling all women high maintenance. And then some unrelated rant in a response to a post that targeted no one. A post that merely said the racism seen in Europe is more overt than the subtle racism seen in America. And that East Asia does not have as much racial diversity so racism is less visible. And that in amongst many Asians, there exists a prejudice towards darker skin Asians due to historical association with the poor, working class. Most Asians from Asia will confirm that cultural bias themselves. For some reason that post seemed to have set you off.

If an apology from me will set things straight, no problem.

[B]I am sorry for calling you out and hurting your feelings[/B]

P.S,

1. I tried the ignore button approach. Your page would just be littered with ignore status notifications while others will often quote the user's posts, making the garbage visible to you anyway.

2. Most browsers have the option of having your browser remember your login credentials. Try using the password manager to easily ignore posts with just one extra click as soon as the URL loads. You'll only see my posts in quotes and italics, yay![/QUOTE]You don't need to say sorry if you don't mean it. And I too did not want to prolong it either but for no reason whatsoever you start chiming in w / it is just fine to misrepresent and misquote me because I do it all the time. As for the browser, I use a private browser that wipes out all the cookies, including first party cookies. For obvious reasons. Have a nice day.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2558933]Calling more bullshit.

You can look down on everyone, fine. But why have you been here this past year when fkks have mostly been closed. There seems to be 2 major sides developing in this thread and both have recognized their distaste for you. What reason does one have to stick around here getting blasted by those who you consider to be "low-level people". Hell, even as the Lounge board is setting off with actual conversation about women, you prefer to stay here. And when you do speak on other threads, it adds nothing novel to the conversation.

But again, why do you write on here, telling the same stories for the past 8 years when there are no FKKs and you don't even like the people?[/QUOTE]When many French go to their second house every week end, I used to do same in FKK land, sometimes for 5 days week end, but only for girls, not for guys nor to make friends there or here. When I don t care about clubs, only woman images and behavior interest me. Good breakfast, what You are used to when You make sports, good shower washing my ass, not needing girls for, then seeing even only one woman image make my day, I don t need anything else. I know my return will be difficult for me like on mid June 2020 at Swiss Dietikon, but with a bit of time to get used, I know it will work for me as always and wherever I go. I experienced same in Germany, Switzerland, Austria and YY, must have a reason. I don t understand guys who are more interested by other guys in this business than by girls, who need to come to speak to me, but I know I'm different, many girls telling me. My great sporty Summer I will build, will keep me powerful for sex and I just wish beautiful images I will see in my sports, will wake up my desire. But no hurry, I control when I don t know when will reopen and don t even go to Switzerland where about 10 clubs are already open. Adapting like always, when I doubt I will have followers climbing with me, when we all know in this sport, the guy is more efficient than the bicycle, even nobody climb on 24 on rear on more than 20% steep. When many claim to WGs to be businessman, but I don t feel impressed in brothels or here and furthermore when just repeating internet data, when so many fakes, like many fakers in this business. As we often told with some girls: no friend in FKK, where jealousy is not only between girls, but many guys can really compete. Good rule for me, only girls, girls, girls, even I m already very happy when I succeed to find only one, and only one would even be the best for my mind, if she wants to play with me, most even putting their own rule: I don t want You go with others, like played weekly for months some and one at LR, when I also got Kate, Megan with 3 different names and clubs and Isabella / Larissa in 3 different clubs, for 5 years, so long way with a so bad guy. I'm fully sure no other guy went for so long than a so bad guy like me, with them 3. My little pride for this.

Japan telling now about fourth wave, also under UK mutant, just before Olympics. Maybe better to cancel, when many Japanese ask for. Our Guyane stuck to Brazil, fall again under confined. What will happen to EU after Summer? When UK mutant was able to swim from Tamise to Tokyo.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2558898]As for the vaccination cult life? Still going wonderfully over here in the Florida Keys. But you keep up the good fight over wherever the hell you are. Vive La Resistance![/QUOTE]Hahahaha, the pro-lockdown-pro-vaxxing-pro-tracking-app Fascist goes on vacation to *drumroll-please* Florida, the Republican state without any Covid1984 restrictions and where Governor DeSantis has banned Covid 19 vaccine passports!

[URL]https://www.flgov.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/EO-21-81.pdf[/URL]

Why didn't you go to lockdown-Commiefornia or lockdown-Michigan where you can 'enjoy' social-distance and wear your face-diaper? What a disgusting hypocrite you are!

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2558898]Wow, exclamations. You must be really upset that you missed out on easy cash.

But again, another reading comprehension fail for a comm major, proving that you wasted tens of thousands of your Daddy's dollars. I merely stated that Americans had more disposable income to invest. But since you "can't read so good," you wasted your time with this diatribe.


Didn't think men participating in international hookering would get all bent out of shape about a $1000 lotto ticket, as if $1000 is anything more than weekend of bar tabs. For the people who deem that statement (which was made in response to an accusation) as a brag, I suggest getting your finances in order before your next hooker.[/QUOTE]Newsflash: we don't care about your 'investing,' and of course you provide NO answer to the one thing that truly matters: the PLANdemic, lockdowns and the closure of FKK clubs:

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2558789]Hey 'Murse' why don't you add some more to your credibility and explain us how your 'Covid-Vaccination-and-Lockdown-Cult' doing? LOL!

[URL]https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-05-04/world-s-most-vaccinated-nation-reintroduces-curbs-as-cases-surge[/URL]

Gee, AstraZeneca?! Garbage Chinese vaccines?! Cases rising again? Who would have thought.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-05-04/world-s-most-vaccinated-nation-reintroduces-curbs-as-cases-surge[/URL]

In the most vaccinated country on earth, the Seychelles, "cases" are again going through the roof! And lockdowns are re-introduced Perhaps people should take Geert vanden Bossche's warnings more serious?

Bret Weinstein's interview with Geert vanden Bossche: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dX_Cr7lh-g[/URL].

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2558938]Well that's an incorrect statement.

Yes, the average Norwegian generates more income than the average American. Norway no.

And our representative from Norway certainly does not generate much.[/QUOTE]Actually ShooBree was right. Norway is the rich part. Norwegians on the other hand kinda like Americans. Lazy. But our wealth fund divided on each citizen is over 200 k usd. So it is the state that is rich.

But the idea that you are wrong is beyond the stage of discussion by now. On almost every topic!

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2558981]GT opening in one week and Wellcum opening on 29 May have nothing to do with when Austria opened last year or when clubs opened or didn't open in Germany last year or when clubs in ZH will open. It's about the situation now, in 2021 and about those 2 clubs only. My initial post was just "look, on the GT website they say they are opening on 19 May".

I just like to point out to the casual reader of this site that you have [B]ZERO credibility.[/B] You live all alone in your own personal fantasy world and you keep repeating to yourself all your stories about you and WGs, all your stories about your cycling and skiing like a broken record. [B]ZERO credibility[/B].[/QUOTE]If only my too many followers in this business, many who saw me for real, others who could often check my writings, could believe and follow a ghost like You, then You would really help me and I would thank You, when some are not able to understand we don t experience same in life. Wish GT Vienna and Wellcum won t be too far for You when will be allowed for reopening, even a bit more far than Dietikon. Wellcum is only around 1 hour driving from my yearly appointment Zoncolan, Giro won t even climb from Ovaro on this year, when I will for sure, for pleasure to be able, and I love Italians supporting the topless heroe on top, when they can t believe a French go so far only for this climbing, but passion can lead so far, and such engine to be able to go far beyond limits. Just have to be able to have passions.

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2559105]

In the most vaccinated country on earth, the Seychelles, "cases" are again going through the roof! And lockdowns are re-introduced Perhaps people should take Geert vanden Bossche's warnings more serious?

Bret Weinstein's interview with Geert vanden Bossche: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dX_Cr7lh-g[/URL].[/QUOTE]So you have decided you don't like the part of the article that says: "Other nations that have vaccinated large portions of their populations have seen Covid cases plunge. In the you. K. , where 52% of people have a first dose, cases are down 96% from a recent high in January. In Israel, where 60% have had at least one dose, new cases are down 99%."

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2559019]You don't need to say sorry if you don't mean it. And I too did not want to prolong it either but for no reason whatsoever you start chiming in w / it is just fine to misrepresent and misquote me because I do it all the time. As for the browser, I use a private browser that wipes out all the cookies, including first party cookies. For obvious reasons. Have a nice day.[/QUOTE]Was just a formality bud. Like when you know a woman is just being irrational so you just say sorry to squash it even though you know she's wrong.

Recent history showed that you have chimed in with angry criticism, unprovoked and for no reason (high maintenance women and race observations). I have actually responded to your post with civility, and as stated intentionally. Have never misquoted you. Usually the other way around. But hey, construct your own reality in whatever way you need to feel good about yourself. You would just be joining the Siri-Pistons construct your own reality club. Would probably be healthier to just say, "yeah, my posts to you have been personal, not objective."

[QUOTE=Pistons;2559112]Actually ShooBree was right. Norway is the rich part. Norwegians on the other hand kinda like Americans. Lazy. But our wealth fund divided on each citizen is over 200 k usd. So it is the state that is rich.

But the idea that you are wrong is beyond the stage of discussion by now. On almost every topic![/QUOTE]Nope:

Total wealth: USA-1, Norway-31.

[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_total_wealth?wprov=sfti1[/URL]

Wealth per capita: USA-2, Norway-19.

[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_financial_assets_per_capita?wprov=sfti1[/URL]

Per capita income: USA-8, Norway-4.

[URL]https://www.worlddata.info/average-income.php[/URL]

Obviously total GDP numbers would also put USA higher.

USA generates more as a whole. Norway more per capita. Americans keep a higher worth of assets, total and per capita. Maybe because we're not taxed so high.

No idea why these obvious numbers are even up for debate.

Men who can't be objective due to personal vendettas, pathetic.

P.S. Zeus or Zevs but never Zews. Paracetamol not from tree bark. Catholicism in a minority mindset in France. All things that are easily verifiable.

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2559105]Newsflash: we don't care about your 'investing,' and of course you provide NO answer to the one thing that truly matters: the PLANdemic, lockdowns and the closure of FKK clubs:

[URL]https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-05-04/world-s-most-vaccinated-nation-reintroduces-curbs-as-cases-surge[/URL]

In the most vaccinated country on earth, the Seychelles, "cases" are again going through the roof! And lockdowns are re-introduced Perhaps people should take Geert vanden Bossche's warnings more serious?

Bret Weinstein's interview with Geert vanden Bossche: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dX_Cr7lh-g[/URL].[/QUOTE]Newsflash, you cared enough to post several times on the topic.

Newsflash, your Norwegian man crush brought up the subject first.

Newsflash, in a population of 100.000, you might want to consider the effect that small sample sizes have on data.

P.S. Still doing great in the "Lockdown Brainwashed USA." 1 kg Lobster was delicious. I named him Pinchy Jr.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2559043]When many French go to their second house every week end, I used to do same in FKK land, sometimes for 5 days week end, but only for girls, not for guys nor to make friends there or here. When I don t care[/QUOTE]You did not answer the question. If you are not interested in the opinions of the people on here or in clubs. Why are you here when clubs have been closed.

There are others who have disappeared since the pandemic, Optimists, KosherKowboy. They were nice people who actually only care about the hobby and feel no need to post here when there is no club action. Yet they are not the ones saying how low level people are here.

So again, why are you here?

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2559055]Hahahaha, the pro-lockdown-pro-vaxxing-pro-tracking-app Fascist goes on vacation to *drumroll-please* Florida, the Republican state without any Covid1984 restrictions and where Governor DeSantis has banned Covid 19 vaccine passports!

[URL]https://www.flgov.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/EO-21-81.pdf[/URL]

Why didn't you go to lockdown-Commiefornia or lockdown-Michigan where you can 'enjoy' social-distance and wear your face-diaper? What a disgusting hypocrite you are![/QUOTE]Or perhaps it's because I live in this state when I'm not working in another (which also has not been locked down since summer 2020). Guessing I might know a bit more about my home than you. I know you like to use my tax state for your political purposes but the people are actually not as retarded as your political agenda suggests. Things are open, masks are generally worn in doors, most venues maintain low capacity limits. Not to mention I'm on a boat outside for 18 hours a day.

But I guess you're not that exposed to Florida-boat life.

No nuance in your post that actually reflect my feelings on the mask-lockdown matter, just more far right versus far left simpleton garbage.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2558985]Initially I felt pity for him, but ignoring him doesn't make it stop, he just posts the same crap since years.

He has some major insecurities and keeps repeating to himself made up stories to try to feel good about himself, at the same time he likes being gangbanged. I wouldn't be surprised if he likes being pegged.[/QUOTE]Those Swiss prison stories? I'm sure he left out the pillow-biting stories.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2559167]You did not answer the question. If you are not interested in the opinions of the people on here or in clubs. Why are you here when clubs have been closed.

There are others who have disappeared since the pandemic, Optimists, KosherKowboy. They were nice people who actually only care about the hobby and feel no need to post here when there is no club action. Yet they are not the ones saying how low level people are here.

So again, why are you here?[/QUOTE]When you ask others, but what about you with your several profiles on this forum? When only 1 is enough for me and for sure I can't compete with you for pathetic Sharks story. In France, I thought also in US except to promote communism, we are free to express our opinion, but no need to agree and I have no problem if some don't agree with me, when you won't change my way and life. Keep on with your friends here, when I don't need such friends.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2559158]Was just a formality bud. Like when you know a woman is just being irrational so you just say sorry to squash it even though you know she's wrong.

Recent history showed that you have chimed in with angry criticism, unprovoked and for no reason (high maintenance women and race observations). I have actually responded to your post with civility, and as stated intentionally. Have never misquoted you. Usually the other way around. But hey, construct your own reality in whatever way you need to feel good about yourself. You would just be joining the Siri-Pistons construct your own reality club. Would probably be healthier to just say, "yeah, my posts to you have been personal, not objective."[/QUOTE]OK, your senseless attacks against all and sundry are easy to verify with a click for anyone who cares. Apparently the way you feel good about yourself is having screaming matches with a thousand people simultaneously on ISG. I don't know why you denigrate Siri or Pistons -- to most sensible people you appear no better and often worse.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2559272]OK, your senseless attacks against all and sundry are easy to verify with a click for anyone who cares. Apparently the way you feel good about yourself is having screaming matches with a thousand people simultaneously on ISG. I don't know why you denigrate Siri or Pistons -- to most sensible people you appear no better and often worse.[/QUOTE]We're still talking? Why?

I have no problems with confrontation but that has no bearing on my self worth. Projection.

I disagree with your assessment regarding sensible people because sensible people gravitate toward truth. Perhaps if you only speak with other corporate-wear-blinders-through-life types like yourself, your assessment holds merit. But those people are quite boring. As such, you bore me. Yawn.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2559272]I don't know why you denigrate Siri or Pistons -- to most sensible people you appear no better and often worse.[/QUOTE]I dunno, I don't know BB69 or PinZ but they seem to share the same assessment of those other 2. Are they insensible? Is McA insensible? Comparing your chosen current compatriots, I'm comfortable with who might be put off with my persona if they agree with your assessment. Feel free to use that ignore button at anytime. In fact, please do. Or you can just make the conscious decision to stop being an emotional tool.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2559167]You did not answer the question. If you are not interested in the opinions of the people on here or in clubs. Why are you here when clubs have been closed.

There are others who have disappeared since the pandemic, Optimists, KosherKowboy. They were nice people who actually only care about the hobby and feel no need to post here when there is no club action. Yet they are not the ones saying how low level people are here.

So again, why are you here?[/QUOTE]Sorry to repeat it again but maybe you should think a little bit about Voltaire " even I don't agree with what you are saying, I will fight until my death that you have the right to tell it" How arrogant are you to asking him what he is doing on this forum?

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2559272]Apparently the way you feel good about yourself is having screaming matches with a thousand people simultaneously on ISG. I don't know why you denigrate Siri or Pistons -- to most sensible people you appear no better and often worse.[/QUOTE]Exactly, the definition of a sad troll who needs validation with his alter online ego. One guy pretending to be a mountain climbing James-Bond-Casanova, the other one is a pathetic Snowflake Millennial pretending to be a pandemic and investing expert, posting pictures of his gay shaved legs on a boat. LOL!

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2559168]. Not to mention I'm on a boat outside for 18 hours a day.

But I guess you're not that exposed to Florida-boat life.[/QUOTE]So you traded in your car and started living in one of these trailer trash sailboats that move up and down the coast? We got some of those here also. Worse than trailer trash actually.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2559162]No idea why these obvious numbers are even up for debate.

Men who can't be objective due to personal vendettas, pathetic.

P.S. Zeus or Zevs but never Zews. Paracetamol not from tree bark. Catholicism in a minority mindset in France. All things that are easily verifiable.[/QUOTE]Your wikipedia numbers doesn't take into account the Norwegian oil fund. Simple as that.

Also: Zews, Tree bark and most definitely catholic France.

P.S: crispr, olmec, gut bacteria, and you are a brainless uneducated twat!

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2559299]I dunno, I don't know BB69 or PinZ but they seem to share the same assessment of those other 2. Are they insensible? Is McA insensible? Comparing your chosen current compatriots, I'm comfortable with who might be put off with my persona if they agree with your assessment. Feel free to use that ignore button at anytime. In fact, please do. Or you can just make the conscious decision to stop being an emotional tool.[/QUOTE]Here are all the ways you are worse:

1. It is easy to ignore their postings. They don't bother me, I don't bother them. If they live in their own real or fantasy worlds and post what they want to post, it is of no consequence. Most people in this world do live their real and fantasy lives as they please, and most people in the world also know how to let others live in their own head space. You on the other hand go strutting around with your mud throwing stunts at every single passerby.

2. Your comments are almost entirely devoid of joy. You seem to live a miserable life; like a ISG dementor. Your medical comments are of no interest to me. My own spouse is a non surgical specialist, she has been working in the next room for a year and I see all that she goes through for 10 hours a day and I wonder how you have any time to post all this nonsense if you are a physician as you claim to be. In any case, if I have any healthcare question, I have my own resource. I come here to read interesting tidbits about mongering life and you instead muck up threads w / your noxious drivel.

3. You pose around as a woke obsessed millennial but you are brimming to the edge w / a lot of internal hate which bubbles up every once in a while w / your age / sex / race based insults. If you had used your Karens and boomer epithets in any real conversation, you would be shunned and your ass will get fired if you had done that at any work related gatherings. And your anti White agenda is very transparent.

You are like a blood sucking leech that won't go away. I need better self control to ignore you more effectively.

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2559318]Sorry to repeat it again but maybe you should think a little bit about Voltaire " even I don't agree with what you are saying, I will fight until my death that you have the right to tell it" How arrogant are you to asking him what he is doing on this forum?[/QUOTE]Oh, he has all right. I am just asking why and implying that his assertion is disingenuous.

Objectivity over emotional bias.

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2559323]Exactly, the definition of a sad troll who needs validation with his alter online ego. One guy pretending to be a mountain climbing James-Bond-Casanova, the other one is a pathetic Snowflake Millennial pretending to be a pandemic and investing expert, posting pictures of his gay shaved legs on a boat. LOL![/QUOTE]I'm no investing expert. A monkey could have made money this past year in the market. If you didn't, well perhaps you are lower than a monkey. Or just scared. Or have no capital.

[B]My[/B] shaved legs? Where?

P. s is grey pubic hair a requirement of using "millennial" as an insult? It's 2021, Millennials have 401 ks and mortgages.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2559325]So you traded in your car and started living in one of these trailer trash sailboats that move up and down the coast? We got some of those here also. Worse than trailer trash actually.[/QUOTE]Weren't you the one who couldn't comprehend how a person has 2 cars? I get it, getting taxed at 50% leaves for light wallets.

Where can I see the word Zews on the internet? Where is tree-bark-paracetamol source? Nope none.

Friend of mine crossed the Atlantic twice (Morocco to Bahamas and Greenland to Iceland and shetland) in one of those cheap trailer garbage trash sail boats, costing him about 15000 SEK. Now given that our resident nurse here on ISG has lost his job due to lack of health related knowledge, this is one way to save on those expensive transvestite continental flights going forward (because only trans persons cannot sail themselves).

Or is he a wuss? Not man enough to tackle the weather? Living in a boat, just to run on diesel? Chicken! Or only to stay at harbor? Cockroach!

Lets see what he is really made of!

[QUOTE=Pistons;2559328]Your wikipedia numbers doesn't take into account the Norwegian oil fund. Simple as that. [/QUOTE]'Forgetting' to include one of the world's largest sovereign wealth funds? Meh! Minor detail! LOL!

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2559377]Here are all the ways you are worse:

1. It is easy to ignore their postings. They don't bother me, I don't bother them. If they live in their own real or fantasy worlds and post what they want to post, it is of no consequence. Most people in this world do live their real and fantasy lives as they please, and most people in the world also know how to let others live in their own head space. You on the other hand go strutting around with your mud throwing stunts at every single passerby.

2. Your comments are almost entirely devoid of joy. You seem to live a miserable life; like a ISG dementor. Your medical comments are of no interest to me. My own spouse is a non surgical specialist, she has been working in the next room for a year and I see all that she goes through for 10 hours a day and I wonder how you have any time to post all this nonsense if you are a physician as you claim to be. In any case, if I have any healthcare question, I have my own resource. I come here to read interesting tidbits about mongering life and you instead muck up threads w / your noxious drivel.

3. You pose around as a woke obsessed millennial but you are brimming to the edge w / a lot of internal hate which bubbles up every once in a while w / your age / sex / race based insults. If you had used your Karens and boomer epithets in any real conversation, you would be shunned and your ass will get fired if you had done that at any work related gatherings. And your anti White agenda is very transparent.

You are like a blood sucking leech that won't go away. I need better self control to ignore you more effectively.[/QUOTE]1. Good, so my posts should be of no consequence.

2. LOL, was that a Harry Potter reference? Wow, you really are a dad.

3. It's 2021, Millennials have 401 Ks and mortgages.

Bonus: why are corporate engineering trained people all the same cookie cutters?

[QUOTE=Pistons;2559395]Friend of mine crossed the Atlantic twice (Morocco to Bahamas and Greenland to Iceland and shetland) in one of those cheap trailer garbage trash sail boats, costing him about 15000 SEK. Now given that our resident nurse here on ISG has lost his job due to lack of health related knowledge, this is one way to save on those expensive transvestite continental flights going forward (because only trans persons cannot sail themselves).

Or is he a wuss? Not man enough to tackle the weather? Living in a boat, just to run on diesel? Chicken! Or only to stay at harbor? Cockroach!

Lets see what he is really made of![/QUOTE]LOL, so much hate and envy. Maybe just get better.

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2559318]Sorry to repeat it again but maybe you should think a little bit about Voltaire " even I don't agree with what you are saying, I will fight until my death that you have the right to tell it" How arrogant are you to asking him what he is doing on this forum?[/QUOTE]Always thought that Voltaire quote is stupid. The little frenchman have obvious mental health problems and is disqualified from freedom of speech.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2559389]I'm no investing expert. A monkey could have made money this past year in the market. If you didn't, well perhaps you are lower than a monkey. Or just scared. Or have no capital.[/QUOTE]I don't need to make money NOW by speculating on some phantasy "coin" that Millennials use with their TikTok accounts, as I have enough disposable income to live a comfortable life. I invest (mostly in commodities) for the long term. Markets crashes in the next few weeks? Great! I'll just buy more and lower my average price.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2559389]It's 2021, Millennials have 401 ks and mortgages.[/QUOTE]So you are a psychologically deranged Snowflake Millennial who has zero clue about how the world works, and is therefore easily brainwashed by the mainstream media and the "science!" Thanks for the confirmation, but most of us had already figured this out a long time ago! LOL!

[QUOTE=Pistons;2559395]Friend of mine crossed the Atlantic twice (Morocco to Bahamas and Greenland to Iceland and shetland) in one of those cheap trailer garbage trash sail boats, costing him about 15000 SEK. Now given that our resident nurse here on ISG has lost his job due to lack of health related knowledge, this is one way to save on those expensive transvestite continental flights going forward (because only trans persons cannot sail themselves).

Or is he a wuss? Not man enough to tackle the weather? Living in a boat, just to run on diesel? Chicken! Or only to stay at harbor? Cockroach!

Lets see what he is really made of![/QUOTE]What the hell are you rambling about? Who lives on a boat?

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2559409]'Forgetting' to include one of the world's largest sovereign wealth funds? Meh! Minor detail! LOL![/QUOTE]And Norway's SWF is worth how much? So this matters how? Correct. It doesn't. You guys debate like females.

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2559458]I don't need to make money NOW by speculating on some phantasy "coin" that Millennials use with their TikTok accounts, as I have enough disposable income to live a comfortable life. I invest (mostly in commodities) for the long term. Markets crashes in the next few weeks? Great! I'll just buy more and lower my average price.

So you are a psychologically deranged Snowflake Millennial who has zero clue about how the world works, and is therefore easily brainwashed by the mainstream media and the "science!" Thanks for the confirmation, but most of us had already figured this out a long time ago! LOL![/QUOTE]You sure do like to focus on parts of a picture without seeing the whole picture. No responsible person would put everything in crypto and tech speculation. Obviously investments should be diversified according to your personal life schedule and risk tolerance. Significant in low risk investments, some in high dividend, some bonds, some high risk speculation. Personally 5% in Crypto is my risk tolerance.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2559471]What the hell are you rambling about? Who lives on a boat?[/QUOTE]I have to side with Frankenstein on this one. You said you were spending 18 hours on a boat. Go look. LOL.

[QUOTE=McGrath;2559454]Always thought that Voltaire quote is stupid. The little frenchman have obvious mental health problems and is disqualified from freedom of speech.[/QUOTE]I'm a real free bird, like in my mountains I miss so much but wish Summer ski will open soon, not a sheep for me. I just regret to have too many followers and some really obsessed here, criticizing but reading all of me when they should not if they don't like my writings. Same in clubs with guys coming to speak to me when I don t go to guys, except to very few I know. I remember on my last Globe visit, a French guy who knew me from Sharks, was too often coming to me, when I really needed to concentrate to find a attractive girl and when I enjoyed a Palace lovely woman type, but was very frustrated because noticed, but too late, a fresh, pretty sure Romanian, natural with milky skin beauty who was more attractive for me, so this guy, even no problem about him, but wasted my time when I need all my precious time to focus on girls for who I spend to drive and pay entry. At least I don t mind about other opinions than mine, when some seem not to learn meaning of open mind and tolerance, which show cleverness for me, to be able to accept differences, not meaning to agree. But I was never impressed by cleverness in brothels. So many claimed to WGs businessmen making me laugh.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2559473]You guys debate like females.[/QUOTE]Talking about females:

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2554117]Hell my game got way better after visiting FKKs. In my mind, talking to hot women became just like talking to any average girl. The nervousness was gone and now I just joke with them like I would a 5. Same lame jokes, just delivered with more confidence. Women can smell it.[/QUOTE]I already gave you a pro tip: try funny jokes next time! LOL!

Anyway, more confirmation that you are a deeply insecure and emotionally disturbed Snowflake Millennial, who needs FKK clubs and a Professor-George-Clooney-Alter-Ego on a sex & hooker forum to overcome his anxieties and boost his confidence.

Another friendly piece of advice for you: use some of that 30 K you apparently made on DogeCoin and spend it on a good therapist to solve your problems, anxieties, and emotional issues.

Good news for the fanboys of lockdowns, vaccines and other totalitarian measures that don't work:

[URL]https://www.dw.com/en/germany-classifies-uk-coronavirus-risk-region/a-57532159[/URL]

[QUOTE]Germany classifies UK coronavirus risk region The UK has one of the fastest vaccine rollouts in the world. But the emergence of a highly infectious variant first discovered in India has caused concern.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson told journalists on Friday that there was currently no evidence that the variant would evade the vaccines that are being deployed across the country.
“I have to level with you, this new variant could pose a serious disruption to our progress,” he said.[/QUOTE]When a politician says "there was currently no evidence that the variant would evade the vaccines," you can assume that the opposite is true. Notice the key word: "currently. " Additionally, he already hedged this previous statement this with "this new variant could pose a serious disruption to our progress!" LOL!

Gee, new variants-mutations that render the 'vaccine' useless? Who could have possibly foreseen this? LOL! / sarc.

All you vaccine-addicts better take a few extra shots of that experimental 'gene-therapy-vaccine,' surrender all your privacy and civil liberties to a Vaccination App, and hurry up flying to Europe, because I'm afraid that all re-openings (if FKK clubs re-open at all) will be short-lived. Once the globalist elites have secured the victory of the neo-communist Greens together with the CDU-CSU and SPD in the upcoming September national elections in Germany, the hammer can come down again with more lockdowns! That's why Mutti MerKill changed the law.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2559377]And your anti White agenda is very transparent.[/QUOTE]Many Whites feel under attack. This person seems to despise mainstream media speaking of White privilege, dismissing it as a myth. Seems to embrace half of what the alt-right espouses, while resisting the pull of the "uglier stuff":

[QUOTE]Im a white guy. Im a well-educated intellectual who enjoys small arthouse movies, coffehouses and classic blues. If you didnt know any better, youd probably mistake me for a lefty urban hipster.

And yet. I find some of the alt-right stuff exerts a pull even on me. Even though Im smart and informed enough to see through it. Its seductive because I am not a person with any power or privilege, and yet I am constantly bombarded with messages telling me that Im a cancer, Im a problem, everything is my fault.

I am very lower middle class. Ive never owned a new car, and do my own home repairs as much as I can to save money. I cut my own grass, wash my own dishes, buy my clothes from Walmart. I have no clue how I will ever be able to retire. But oh, brother, to hear the media tell it, I am just drowning in unearned power and privilege, and America will be a much brighter, more loving, more peaceful nation when I finally just keel over and die.

Trust me: After all that, some of the alt-right stuff feels like a warm, soothing bath.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2559473]And Norway's SWF is worth how much? So this matters how? Correct. It doesn't. You guys debate like females.[/QUOTE][URL]www.nbim.no[/URL]

So yes, it kind of changes your numbers quite a bit. Also of note is that 100% of it is invested abroad, so it is impossible to use the fund in the same metrics as national debt (with its own currency). Since abroad investments functions in several inverse relationships as the economy increases or drops.

HammerTime: well of course they have to keep using those words for maybe a few more months. So that more idiots will grab more vaccines of that first round of jabs. Hell, even after it will be debunked that the first jab is about to be rendered useless, the idea will be put forth that it at least causes people to survive future covid mutation infections! Even if the side effects totally fucks them up, and they want to suicide rather than live! Just so the death cabal of insanity wannabe doctors will get fix.

Oh, and that Agenda 2030 which requires a heavy global population decrease of course!

When that is said, I wonder what the plans are now regarding reintroducing it into China, and what about Africa? I know they are not reporting, but still.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2559601][URL]www.nbim.no[/URL]

So yes, it kind of changes your numbers quite a bit.[/QUOTE]Oops! Don't show him any facts and figures, Snowflakes are allergic to that and can get triggered! LOL!

I have a couple of friends who are portfolio managers at Norges. IMO, it is the premier sovereign fund in the world and I would put it ahead of ADIA. They have also been way ahead of other funds in taking the lead on ESG although one can rightly question the morality of a fund built on oil riches preaching ESG. That said, it is at the end, a bit like an endowment. They are running more than $1. 3 T now, which for a country of 5 mil would imply a wealth of $260 K per capita. However, this is misleading. This wealth will not be dissolved and divvied up now or soon. The wealth belongs to not just current but future generations and that could be not just the next 10 years or 50 years but in principle forever. Endowments typically draw down low single percent amounts (say 3% or 4%) which will be balanced by the return they generate -- in theory the fund sustains at similar size for a very long time (and grow if they keep getting new contributions from donors). I think Norway is doing the right thing with regards to taking money out and I know it is always a big source of discussion in their country.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2559543]I have to side with Frankenstein on this one. You said you were spending 18 hours on a boat. Go look. LOL.[/QUOTE]Not sure how 18 hours on a boat constitutes as living on one. But yeah, I'm on holiday and 5th day on boat. I mean, have none of you ever spent time on vacation? Does that mean "living" in your holiday spot? Jesus Christ.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2559596]Many Whites feel under attack. This person seems to despise mainstream media speaking of White privilege, dismissing it as a myth. Seems to embrace half of what the alt-right espouses, while resisting the pull of the "uglier stuff":[/QUOTE]It is advisable to lay off race related topics, especially using half baked anecdotes, selective snippets, and out of context quotes by people who are located continents away.

Every country has more or less privilege to the locals. It is a global thing, and is nothing special. Hardly more so either in USA, England, Sweden or China, Singapore, Japan, South Africa or Saudi Arabia. Actually across large parts of the wealthier Europe, immigrants have it easier in terms of getting stable state jobs, while also harder in terms of private sector jobs. Which makes sense due to networking etc. This cannot be said about Asian countries, or even African.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2559601][URL]www.nbim.no[/URL]

So yes, it kind of changes your numbers quite a bit. Also of note is that 100% of it is invested abroad, so it is impossible to use the fund in the same metrics as national debt (with its own currency). Since abroad investments functions in several inverse relationships as the economy increases or drops.[/QUOTE]That's cute. 100 Trillion NOK is about 12 T USD. Not so impressive when US total assets minus debts is still over 120 T USD.

But yes, Wikipedia article putting US ahead per capita is off if you consider SWF.

Doesn't change the original point, USA is more rich. Norway more worth per capita.

[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financial_position_of_the_United_States?wprov=sfti1[/URL]

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2559573]Talking about females:

I already gave you a pro tip: try funny jokes next time! LOL!

Anyway, more confirmation that you are a deeply insecure and emotionally disturbed Snowflake Millennial, who needs FKK clubs and a Professor-George-Clooney-Alter-Ego on a sex & hooker forum to overcome his anxieties and boost his confidence.

Another friendly piece of advice for you: use some of that 30 K you apparently made on DogeCoin and spend it on a good therapist to solve your problems, anxieties, and emotional issues.[/QUOTE]Not sure how that constitutes weak. Had a deficit, got better. Boom. Personal progress. What are you doing to make yourself a better human? Or are you the type that peaked when he was 22 years old. How limiting an existence that must be.

Reinvested 100% of all market gains this year. Duh. Good thing my therapist takes my crappy health insurance.

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2559576]Good news for the fanboys of lockdowns, vaccines and other totalitarian measures that don't work:

[URL]https://www.dw.com/en/germany-classifies-uk-coronavirus-risk-region/a-57532159[/URL]


When a politician says "there was currently no evidence that the variant would evade the vaccines," you can assume that the opposite is true. Notice the key word: "currently. " Additionally, he already hedged this previous statement this with "this new variant could pose a serious disruption to our progress!" LOL!

Gee, new variants-mutations that render the 'vaccine' useless? Who could have possibly foreseen this? LOL! / sarc.

All you vaccine-addicts better take a few extra shots of that experimental 'gene-therapy-vaccine,' surrender all your privacy and civil liberties to a Vaccination App, and hurry up flying to Europe, because I'm afraid that all re-openings (if FKK clubs re-open at all) will be short-lived. Once the globalist elites have secured the victory of the neo-communist Greens together with the CDU-CSU and SPD in the upcoming September national elections in Germany, the hammer can come down again with more lockdowns! That's why Mutti MerKill changed the law.[/QUOTE]Didn't we already go through this with your Chicken Little claims about UK and South Africa variants? Can you wait for some data before you start fear mongering your QAnon propaganda again? Por favor, S'il vous plait, bitte.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2559682]It is advisable to lay off race related topics, especially using half baked anecdotes, selective snippets, and out of context quotes by people who are located continents away.[/QUOTE]Says the person with a textbook, self-defensive position regarding race. The claims are disingenuous and superficial at best. Saying "better to lay off"' is for people speaking to coworkers or people with fingers in their ears.

Speak away about race, even if many people are offended by reality.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2559675]Not sure how 18 hours on a boat constitutes as living on one. But yeah, I'm on holiday and 5th day on boat. I mean, have none of you ever spent time on vacation? Does that mean "living" in your holiday spot? Jesus Christ.[/QUOTE]18 hours a day it actually said, but you've clarified so all good. Enjoy your vacation.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2559631]HammerTime: well of course they have to keep using those words for maybe a few more months. So that more idiots will grab more vaccines of that first round of jabs. Hell, even after it will be debunked that the first jab is about to be rendered useless, the idea will be put forth that it at least causes people to survive future covid mutation infections! Even if the side effects totally fucks them up, and they want to suicide rather than live! Just so the death cabal of insanity wannabe doctors will get fix.

Oh, and that Agenda 2030 which requires a heavy global population decrease of course!

When that is said, I wonder what the plans are now regarding reintroducing it into China, and what about Africa? I know they are not reporting, but still.[/QUOTE]Conspiracy theory junkies and other trolls already are switching to the next conspiracy theory, that somehow vaccinated people are infecting the nonvaccinated people with something. You are not keeping up.

In the meantime side effects of the vaccine include opening of FKKs. I am sure they will have a PCR test center right next to the entry door of every FKK so you can get in. For you, it's either that or keep enjoying pornhub.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2559325]So you traded in your car and started living in one of these trailer trash sailboats that move up and down the coast? We got some of those here also. Worse than trailer trash actually.[/QUOTE]When I have to keep my house, but my car is my usual office, driver seat is my good bed for few hours I'm able to sleep, I love to sleep in mountains like a snail in his house, with my skis and bicycle. Only in Switzerland, I m not a good snail enough, being same criminal than Albanian drugs dealers who looked at me kicking in door and insulting administration with kantonal polizei coming to tell they would put me in room, alone with no window, but only for 2 nights and Sunday, when Lauberhorn was on Saturday, but shortened on 2019 .

[QUOTE=Pistons;2559684]Every country has more or less privilege to the locals. It is a global thing, and is nothing special. Hardly more so either in USA, England, Sweden or China, Singapore, Japan, South Africa or Saudi Arabia. Actually across large parts of the wealthier Europe, immigrants have it easier in terms of getting stable state jobs, while also harder in terms of private sector jobs. Which makes sense due to networking etc. This cannot be said about Asian countries, or even African.[/QUOTE]I agree with most of that. All but state level jobs in USA. Don't see too many legal immigrants working those jobs over here. Maybe in some large cities but it's mostly locals.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2559702]That's cute. 100 Trillion NOK is about 12 T USD. Not so impressive when US total assets minus debts is still over 120 T USD.

But yes, Wikipedia article putting US ahead per capita is off if you consider SWF.

Doesn't change the original point, USA is more rich. Norway more worth per capita.

[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financial_position_of_the_United_States?wprov=sfti1[/URL][/QUOTE]Please take an economics class! This discussion is too stupid for me to bother with! It is also just 11 trillion nok that fund. Or 1.3 trillion usd. Divided on only 5.5 million people. So the state is rich per capita. That is 1. 4% of all shares. Not as big as the 4 top American private funds, but those are on private hands, and not state owned (Like Blackrock, Vanguard, Charles Swab or State Street. And those also have holders from all over world.

That financial position of USA however is just laughable! On so many accounts! For one, it is not even updated since 2014? So you figured like most of us here have known for ages: you blow at googling!? So then you moved onto Wikipedia only? LOL! Next best thing? Jesus!

It is like the biggest derail of the century! Just look at what it is counting! (And not counting for that matter, like all sorts of bank debts).

1. The wealth of a state is counted per capita.

2. Per capita wealth is private ownership per capita.

I thought 1 and 2 was simple basics!

Your last retarded Wikipedia article is a complete mess, and manages to handpick what it is counting. A bit of this, and a bit of that! And 7 year old figures!

Nobody cares about household and non-profit wealth here: the major chunk in the link you got me (which doesn't include bank debt, derivatives etc etc of course). As people can change citizenship almost at will If you have the cash.

This is strictly speaking about public assets. A few links for you:

[URL]https://wolfstreet.com/2021/04/04/us-national-debt-passes-28-trillion-4-7-trillion-in-13-months-general-treasury-account-down-by-480-billion-in-2-months-620-billion-to-go/[/URL]

[URL]https://wallstreetonparade.com/2021/04/the-fed-has-misled-the-public-about-the-strength-of-the-wall-street-mega-banks-this-chart-shows-the-true-picture/[/URL]

Also, the way the fractional reserve system works, you can always fake the numbers short term to make it sound liquid! Just shuffle things around and have it seem like you have 10 x wealth! Banks are great at doing this! But take that away, and USA is massively on the minus side. It is inbuilt into the system, and also why hedge funds are the richest. As seen here: 12-13 trillion (125 trillion after some tricksing) from just one type of loans. In one year only!

[URL]https://wallstreetonparade.com/2021/03/senator-ossoff-drops-a-bombshell-the-12-or-13-largest-banks-got-the-trillions-from-the-feds-repo-loans-last-year/[/URL]

It's a joke! Certainly not a part of your link! And why you cannot look at certain numbers.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2559704]Didn't we already go through this with your Chicken Little claims about UK and South Africa variants? Can you wait for some data before you start fear mongering your QAnon propaganda again? Por favor, S'il vous plait, bitte.[/QUOTE]Accusing me of QAnon propaganda? Hahaha, well, that sounds very "scientific. " Again, when cornered with facts, our poor little emotionally challenged Chinese Snowflake Troll goes into full gaslighting mode.

I thought a 'doctor' a 'scientist' and a 'virus expert' like yourself could do better than that. LOL!

The facts speak for themselves;.

*) South Africa stopped using AstraZeneca because it's useless against the local mutation.

*) "Cases" are skyrocketing in the Seychelles, the most vaccinated country on earth.

*) More travel restrictions due to the "double-mutant" Indian variant.

People who buy into Mursenary's Globalist Scam (lockdowns, "vaccines," and Vaccine Passports) need to wake up REAL FAST that this is NOT the road back to going to an FKK club. It's quite the opposite, it's a never ending road of; lockdowns, bankruptcies, a destroyed middle class that keeps food on the table for FKK club owners and WGs who make clubbing possible in the first place, a totalitarian Big Governments, permanent vaccine "updates" resulting in permanent travel restrictions and country entry restrictions, and a total loss of privacy.

If you can't take pushback, don't write BS in a public forum. Writing BS in a condescending tone is asking for it.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2559654]I have a couple of friends who are portfolio managers at Norges. IMO, it is the premier sovereign fund in the world and I would put it ahead of ADIA. They have also been way ahead of other funds in taking the lead on ESG although one can rightly question the morality of a fund built on oil riches preaching ESG. That said, it is at the end, a bit like an endowment. They are running more than $1. 3 T now, which for a country of 5 mil would imply a wealth of $260 K per capita. However, this is misleading. This wealth will not be dissolved and divvied up now or soon. The wealth belongs to not just current but future generations and that could be not just the next 10 years or 50 years but in principle forever. Endowments typically draw down low single percent amounts (say 3% or 4%) which will be balanced by the return they generate -- in theory the fund sustains at similar size for a very long time (and grow if they keep getting new contributions from donors). I think Norway is doing the right thing with regards to taking money out and I know it is always a big source of discussion in their country.[/QUOTE]Yeah, you got the figures correct. But the whole reason it is brought up as a topic is that such wealth funds changes certain metrics in the wikipedia articles posted by a certain n00 b boat trash we have here. Everything else is not really on topic. I could write a book about it, capitalism and local conditions as well. But many wikipedia statistics, especially in economics is a joke.

The 3-4% endowments is approximately 20% of the budget though. Just imagine if the figures of the n00 b was correct: you would have yearly 3-4% endowments from the fund making up 170% of the national budget! LOL!

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2559722]Says the person with a textbook, self-defensive position regarding race. The claims are disingenuous and superficial at best. Saying "better to lay off"' is for people speaking to coworkers or people with fingers in their ears.

Speak away about race, even if many people are offended by reality.[/QUOTE]MacAdonis probably means well but lives continents away and has no effing clue about American race relations based on what he has written so far. Wiki readings and a few links do not mean much.

You on the other hand are a race warrior but a blatant ageist, sexist, and worst of all bubbling with anti White bigotry. Fighting like women? Can you be a bit more tone deaf and sexist?

Very few ISG readers come here to listen to US race lectures, especially from people living a million miles away and only learned things from some links on the internet or 1st gen immigrants still carrying grudges after 40 years of kindness shown by Americans. Thankfully, most of the immigrants I know are much better human beings; I guess our immigration policy is working with a few exceptions.

The problem with these useless race discussions is that they change no views, educate no one, and only serve to increase the decibel level. Given that your favorite pastime (or your only hobby in life) is throwing mud at passersby and having a running feud with a thousand people, you would naturally like them (while being a hypocrite who is full of the very sins you accuse others of).

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2559778]need to wake up REAL FAST that this is NOT the road back to going to an FKK club...[/QUOTE]So what is the road back according to you?

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2559778]Accusing me of QAnon propaganda? Hahaha, well, that sounds very "scientific. " Again, when cornered with facts, our poor little emotionally challenged Chinese Snowflake Troll goes into full gaslighting mode.

I thought a 'doctor' a 'scientist' and a 'virus expert' like yourself could do better than that. LOL!

The facts speak for themselves;.

*) South Africa stopped using AstraZeneca because it's useless against the local mutation.

*) "Cases" are skyrocketing in the Seychelles, the most vaccinated country on earth.

*) More travel restrictions due to the "double-mutant" Indian variant.

People who buy into Mursenary's Globalist Scam (lockdowns, "vaccines," and Vaccine Passports) need to wake up REAL FAST that this is NOT the road back to going to an FKK club. It's quite the opposite, it's a never ending road of; lockdowns, bankruptcies, a destroyed middle class that keeps food on the table for FKK club owners and WGs who make clubbing possible in the first place, a totalitarian Big Governments, permanent vaccine "updates" resulting in permanent travel restrictions and country entry restrictions, and a total loss of privacy.[/QUOTE]I don t know why but Seychelles used low quality Chinese vaccine, after we already knew about low quality Chinese tests. I won t run to vaccine, I never tested but I know how to control how are my lungs, but vaccine, even cheap AZ which is most often refused now in France when we have around 3 millions doses with no client, lower deaths when protecting weakest. UK was out of control on Christmas and beginning of year and much less deaths now, even with their mutant, US have also much less deaths under Biden compare to crazy orange golfer who advised to drink disinfectant. Japan is a surprise with fourth wave now when very low vaccine rate. Russia have to explain us where come from their 460 000 more deaths. I m pretty sure China don t even know how many deaths they have, when they don t vaccine old, and You can disappear so fast there, same like in Switzerland where people who know You can think You died.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2559749]I agree with most of that. All but state level jobs in USA. Don't see too many legal immigrants working those jobs over here. Maybe in some large cities but it's mostly locals.[/QUOTE]USA was not Europe last time I checked. Maybe you need to look up on your atlas.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2559847]MacAdonis probably means well but lives continents away and has no effing clue about American race relations based on what he has written so far. Wiki readings and a few links do not mean much.

You on the other hand are a race warrior but a blatant ageist, sexist, and worst of all bubbling with anti White bigotry. Fighting like women? Can you be a bit more tone deaf and sexist?

Very few ISG readers come here to listen to US race lectures, especially from people living a million miles away and only learned things from some links on the internet or 1st gen immigrants still carrying grudges after 40 years of kindness shown by Americans. Thankfully, most of the immigrants I know are much better human beings; I guess our immigration policy is working with a few exceptions.

The problem with these useless race discussions is that they change no views, educate no one, and only serve to increase the decibel level. Given that your favorite pastime (or your only hobby in life) is throwing mud at passersby and having a running feud with a thousand people, you would naturally like them (while being a hypocrite who is full of the very sins you accuse others of).[/QUOTE]Ok Boomer. McA I think knows plenty, def more than someone who grew up and still lives a life oblivious to other social class realities. My 75% white social group would be quite shocked to hear this rando dork describe me as anti-white. It's okay, admitting other people's struggles should not take away from your personal achievements. But your insecurities and / or personal vendettas prevent you from true enlightenment.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2559745]Conspiracy theory junkies and other trolls already are switching to the next conspiracy theory, that somehow vaccinated people are infecting the nonvaccinated people with something. You are not keeping up.[/QUOTE]Oh believe me, I am getting spammed on messenger with those theories also. But I am not after conspiracy theories. Just the truth!

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2559847]Very few ISG readers come here to listen to US race lectures, especially from people living a million miles away and only learned things from some links on the internet or 1st gen immigrants still carrying grudges after 40 years of kindness shown by Americans. Thankfully, most of the immigrants I know are much better human beings; I guess our immigration policy is working with a few exceptions.[/QUOTE]His religion is that every time some immigrant makes money, it is because of hard work. And every time a non-immigrant beats him, it is because of inheritance. Doesn't matter if you tell him your dad is already dead long ago and you inherited 0 (because your mom is still alive). As long as it interfere with his religion, it goes in one ear, and out the other!

He is even proud of lifting 110 kg in bench after working hard to get there for years. Laughable! It took me 5 rounds at the bench now to get to 112.5! And I still don't have the technique! And I feel weak given I see people living 200 kg+ (though I know they have taken something). He is a nobody! And I don't even take lifting seriously.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2559755]Please take an economics class! This discussion is too stupid for me to bother with! It is also just 11 trillion nok that fund. Or 1.3 trillion usd. Divided on only 5.5 million people. So the state is rich per capita. That is 1. 4% of all shares. Not as big as the 4 top American private funds, but those are on private hands, and not state owned (Like Blackrock, Vanguard, Charles Swab or State Street. And those also have holders from all over world.

That financial position of USA however is just laughable! On so many accounts! For one, it is not even updated since 2014? So you figured like most of us here have known for ages: you blow at googling!? So then you moved onto Wikipedia only? LOL! Next best thing? Jesus![/QUOTE]Too dumb to bother with yet immediately makes 3 posts on the topic. So strange.

My guess is that European countries opening it doors to US tourists, making exception to per capita incidence rate requirements, says quite alot about the worth of American expendable income. France next month, Greece, Ireland, and Croatia to follow suit soon.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2559755]1. The wealth of a state is counted per capita.

2. Per capita wealth is private ownership per capita.

I thought 1 and 2 was simple basics!

Your last retarded Wikipedia article is a complete mess, and manages to handpick what it is counting. A bit of this, and a bit of that! And 7 year old figures![/QUOTE]I'm no economics expert but can see both definitions of national wealth. I can also understand why you would personally choose to look at per capita values versus total. However you choose to feel good about yourself, the topic started with a statement about disposable income with lowly taxed Americans having more of it.

[QUOTE]https://www.investopedia.com/terms/w/wealth.asp

The wealth of a country or a Nation can be estimated as the [b]sum[/b] of three major components:

Natural capital or Resources- It is calculated as the [b]sum[/b] of the stock value of the renewable and non renewable resources (pasture land, agricultural land, protected areas, oil, coal, natural gas, minerals)

Produced assets It represents the [b]sum[/b] of the value of a countrys stock of machinery and equipment, structures and urban land.
Human resources- They consist of raw labor, determined mainly by the number of people in a countrys labor force; human capital and an important element known as social capital[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2559778]Accusing me of QAnon propaganda? Hahaha, well, that sounds very "scientific. " Again, when cornered with facts, our poor little emotionally challenged Chinese Snowflake Troll goes into full gaslighting mode.

I thought a 'doctor' a 'scientist' and a 'virus expert' like yourself could do better than that. LOL!

The facts speak for themselves;.

*) South Africa stopped using AstraZeneca because it's useless against the local mutation.

*) "Cases" are skyrocketing in the Seychelles, the most vaccinated country on earth.

*) More travel restrictions due to the "double-mutant" Indian variant.

People who buy into Mursenary's Globalist Scam (lockdowns, "vaccines," and Vaccine Passports) need to wake up REAL FAST that this is NOT the road back to going to an FKK club. It's quite the opposite, it's a never ending road of; lockdowns, bankruptcies, a destroyed middle class that keeps food on the table for FKK club owners and WGs who make clubbing possible in the first place, a totalitarian Big Governments, permanent vaccine "updates" resulting in permanent travel restrictions and country entry restrictions, and a total loss of privacy.[/QUOTE]A little strange to accuse others of gaslighting but goes to ad hominem attacks yourself, No? Anyway, I'll be enjoying these months of travel opening up for my overly vaccinated nation despite the horribly "ineffective vaccines". You continue your sky is falling, Chicken Little life. Trump2024.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2559729]18 hours a day it actually said, but you've clarified so all good. Enjoy your vacation.[/QUOTE]Thank you for parsing details and being objective to at least see other points of view.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2559847]MacAdonis probably means well but lives continents away and has no effing clue about American race relations based on what he has written so far. Wiki readings and a few links do not mean much.

You on the other hand are a race warrior but a blatant ageist, sexist, and worst of all bubbling with anti White bigotry. Fighting like women? Can you be a bit more tone deaf and sexist?[/QUOTE]His few linked sources mean more than your's which is none. And certainly trumped your string of ad hominems, and yet another temper tandrum rehearing your white victimization. Here's a good article by the way, and with an outstanding recommendation, "have a nervous breakdown, get therapy and come to terms with the modern world. "

[URL]https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/16/opinions/fareed-gop-special-op-ed/index.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2559847]The problem with these useless race discussions is that they change no views, educate no one, and only serve to increase the decibel level. Given that your favorite pastime (or your only hobby in life) is throwing mud at passersby and having a running feud with a thousand people, you would naturally like them (while being a hypocrite who is full of the very sins you accuse others of).[/QUOTE]Well, here's some perspective. I "feud" with about a half dozen people on here. Those people are Pistons, Sirioja, HT, Shoo, ExPat, and Gino. There are a few on here with whom I consistently agree with regarding various topics. You, yourself, have made many valid, informed points. However, in our discussions, the tendency to ignore and misconstrue have been a bit more copious.

Whatever your personal assessment of my views, try and let your objective side determine if your company is a desirable one.

And if you think that I am a race warrior, then you might be part of the problem of people not being able objectively parse through valid criticisms of race relations versus those of social-justice warrior, bleeding liberals.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2559899]His religion is that every time some immigrant makes money, it is because of hard work. And every time a non-immigrant beats him, it is because of inheritance. Doesn't matter if you tell him your dad is already dead long ago and you inherited 0 (because your mom is still alive). As long as it interfere with his religion, it goes in one ear, and out the other!

He is even proud of lifting 110 kg in bench after working hard to get there for years. Laughable! It took me 5 rounds at the bench now to get to 112.5! And I still don't have the technique! And I feel weak given I see people living 200 kg+ (though I know they have taken something). He is a nobody! And I don't even take lifting seriously.[/QUOTE]Nah, some immigrants break the law or cheat the system to make their money also. On average though, they don't benefit from as much generational wealth. Some locals have it easy, some have it hard, but on average start at a higher spot. They don't need to feel guilty about that but some perspective for the immigrants who have not made it yet seems to be a reflection of a good human state of mind.

I would hope that someone who is 10-15 kg taller and 10-20 kg heavier can naturally lift more than a 170 cm 70 kg man. Anyway, this 70 kg man is up to 125 kg bench and 200 kg deadlift. Pretty happy with my hard work. Compete with yourself and not others.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2559908]His few linked sources mean more than your's which is none. And certainly trumped your string of ad hominems, and yet another temper tandrum rehearing your white victimization. Here's a good article by the way, and with an outstanding recommendation, "have a nervous breakdown, get therapy and come to terms with the modern world. "

[URL]https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/16/opinions/fareed-gop-special-op-ed/index.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Are you reading challenged? I challenge you to show "yet another temper tandrum rehearing your white victimization. " from me. I don't even believe Whites are victimized, for the record. But I also think nothing good comes out of these useless race discussions, especially on ISG. As for MacAdonis, fine be his worshipper, but that reply of his with some random anecdote served zero purpose.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2559852]So what is the road back according to you?[/QUOTE]I've asked that too. His only answer has been "lock up the old and vulnerable". But his own argument that restrictions only delay future spread comes to a halt when you ask, "what do you do to eventually let those people out of quarantine?" doesn't seem to provide solutions since he is anti covid vaccines. Perhaps he wanted old and vulnerable people to be locked up until the vaccine testing meant his 5-10 year requirement.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2559889]USA was not Europe last time I checked. Maybe you need to look up on your atlas.[/QUOTE]I stand corrected. You did say Europe. No need for an Atlas, School Geography Bee champion in 1996. Beat a German kid in the final round.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2559908]His few linked sources mean more than your's which is none. And certainly trumped your string of ad hominems, and yet another temper tandrum rehearing your white victimization. Here's a good article by the way, and with an outstanding recommendation, "have a nervous breakdown, get therapy and come to terms with the modern world. "

[URL]https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/16/opinions/fareed-gop-special-op-ed/index.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Original post got truncated. The source, judging from the name of article does not appear to be a "liberal rag": [URL]https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/creating-the-white-tribe/[/URL].

Author posts comments made by a reader. The point they are trying to make is that the left is throwing fuel on the fire and pushing straight white males towards the alt-right movement. Reader is firing a warning shot.

[QUOTE]Im a white guy. Im a well-educated intellectual who enjoys small arthouse movies, coffehouses and classic blues. If you didnt know any better, youd probably mistake me for a lefty urban hipster.

And yet. I find some of the alt-right stuff exerts a pull even on me. Even though Im smart and informed enough to see through it. Its seductive because I am not a person with any power or privilege, and yet I am constantly bombarded with messages telling me that Im a cancer, Im a problem, everything is my fault.

I am very lower middle class. Ive never owned a new car, and do my own home repairs as much as I can to save money. I cut my own grass, wash my own dishes, buy my clothes from Walmart. I have no clue how I will ever be able to retire. But oh, brother, to hear the media tell it, I am just drowning in unearned power and privilege, and America will be a much brighter, more loving, more peaceful nation when I finally just keel over and die.

Trust me: After all that, some of the alt-right stuff feels like a warm, soothing bath. A safe space, if you will. I recoil from the uglier stuff, but some of it the hey, white guys are actually okay, you know! Be proud of yourself, white man! stuff is really VERY seductive, and it is only with some intellectual effort that I can resist the pull. And yet I still follow this stuff, not really accepting it, but following it just because its one of the only places I can go where people are not always telling me Im the seed of all evil in the world. If its a struggle for someone like me to resist the pull, I imagine its probably impossible for someone with less education or cultural exposure.

It baffles me that more people on the left cant understand this, cant see how theyre just feeding, feeding, feeding the growth of this stuff. They have no problem understanding, and even making excuses for, say, the seductive pull of angry black radicalism for disaffected black men. Theyre totally cool with straightforwardly racist stuff like La Raza. Why are they unable to put themselves into the shoes of disaffected white guys and see how something similar might appeal to them? Or if they can make this mental leap, why are they so caustically dismissive of it an attitude theyd never do with, say, a black kid who has joined the Nation of Islam?

Im sorry, but there are two alternatives here. You can push for some kind of universalist vision bringing everybody together, or you can have tribes. Theres not a third option. If you dont want universalism, then you just have to accept that various forms of open white nationalism are eventually going to become a permanent feature of politics. You dont have to LIKE it. But you have to accept it and learn to live with it including the inevitable violence and strife that will flow from it.

[b]If the Left cant let go of identity politics, then let me be clear: What comes next is on THEM. A lot of us dont want to live in a world of tribes, and we never asked for it. But people will like those young dudes attracted to white nationalism are going to play the game according to the rules as they find them, and they will play to win. Dont say you werent warned.[/b][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Pistons;2559899]His religion is that every time some immigrant makes money, it is because of hard work. And every time a non-immigrant beats him, it is because of inheritance. Doesn't matter if you tell him your dad is already dead long ago and you inherited 0 (because your mom is still alive). As long as it interfere with his religion, it goes in one ear, and out the other![/QUOTE]Sorry for your loss. Didn't remember that. A father figure would have served you well.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2559908]His few linked sources mean more than your's which is none. And certainly trumped your string of ad hominems, and yet another temper tandrum rehearing your white victimization. Here's a good article by the way, and with an outstanding recommendation, "have a nervous breakdown, get therapy and come to terms with the modern world. "

[URL]https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/16/opinions/fareed-gop-special-op-ed/index.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Here is one example.

Around Feb 2020, after Covid first surfaced, Gino made a string of posts advocating that FKKs should ban entry for any Asian types. He never defined who those would be. When I pushed, he admitted it would include any dude with an Asian look.

I was pretty much the only one who had a month long dispute with him, pushing back on that preposterous idea. I said (a) if Germany or any other country feels they need to protect their denizens, they should implement a travel ban (b) people who are already inside the country and free to visit restaurants, movie theaters, grocery stores, train stations etc are not any more of a risk inside the FKKs (c) if the club should make discriminatory door policy, it should be based on testing, at least temp checks etc and not based on looks of ethnicity.

I am sorry, but I don't recall you jumping in at that time. This back and forth w / Gino went on for weeks. He accused me of being a libtard (his favorite expression). And now you barge in and I am crying white victimization? Really?

I aggressively pushed back on that issue because FKK door policy is a relevant topic for ISG. But MacAdonis' half baked theses with a few links from the first page of Google search probably impress you but anyone who has been living in the US know how complex is a race discussion, how it goes nowhere after endless mutual recriminations, and how shallow are some of the observations from MacAdonis on this topic. And yes, I will not be bothered to provide a bunch of links -- this is not a high school paper I am submitting. Perhaps you are still in school somewhere and those sorts of citations impress you.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2559892]Oh believe me, I am getting spammed on messenger with those theories also. But I am not after conspiracy theories. Just the truth![/QUOTE]The problem is that you don't have enough formal education on various subjects to make your extremely strong views. I have a bachelors's in a hard science plus multiple graduate degrees in health sciences, medicine, and public health but would never make the same assumptions as you. It takes years to learn all of the background information in order to make your assertions and be able to truly think independently but you seem to think that you have done so by watching youtube videos and reading message boards.

Familiarity and Competency are two very different things.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2559890]Ok Boomer. McA I think knows plenty, def more than someone who grew up and still lives a life oblivious to other social class realities. My 75% white social group would be quite shocked to hear this rando dork describe me as anti-white. It's okay, admitting other people's struggles should not take away from your personal achievements. But your insecurities and / or personal vendettas prevent you from true enlightenment.[/QUOTE]So says the 40 year old good for nothing immigrant. You are certainly an exception to the successful Asian immigrant story that has become a cliche. As for you and that other butt kisser of McA. MCA is alright but boringly pedantic and just prints basic stuff from his Google search front page results. Perhaps that sort of thing impresses simple minds like yours.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2559890]Ok Boomer. McA I think knows plenty, def more than someone who grew up and still lives a life oblivious to other social class realities. My 75% white social group would be quite shocked to hear this rando dork describe me as anti-white. It's okay, admitting other people's struggles should not take away from your personal achievements. But your insecurities and / or personal vendettas prevent you from true enlightenment.[/QUOTE]Because your friends don't know all the trash you post you here. Do all the women you know realize the kinda anti women diatribes you dumped on us? Do your gay friends know the absolutely disgusting gay slurs you posted? As for me being disconnected. I did not come from money, I don't think I have that much money and just in the last week alone we donated $3 K for Covid, including $500 to an Indian charity after an Indian friend alerted me and now I am trying to get a match from my firm -- if I am so disconnected why would I help a country so far removed from me? And no, it is not for tax benefit, with my filing we get no help from those.

The other day you said I don't have balls because I was not fighting whoever you were fighting. That shows the kinda detached world you and your pals live in (I noticed you roped in one of them for support; makes sense. Around here, it seems like a Survivor show with a couple of groups pitted against each other). You think throwing mud and fighting endlessly is evidence of balls. If ever you are actually responsible for other people's lives and bring them up and make them into productive human beings, you will know what real guts are. If paid sex is all I cared about and if I was that selfish, I could park myself in DE and other mongering destinations forever and not have to work but I am not doing that.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2559918] the problem of people not being able objectively parse through valid criticisms of race relations versus those of social-justice warrior, bleeding liberals.[/QUOTE]Yeah. Ok. Right. Does anyone else need a whiskey now?

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2559939]Sorry for your loss. Didn't remember that. A father figure would have served you well.[/QUOTE]You're obviously brain dead.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2559930]Are you reading challenged? I challenge you to show "yet another temper tandrum rehearing your white victimization. " from me. I don't even believe Whites are victimized, for the record. But I also think nothing good comes out of these useless race discussions, especially on ISG. As for MacAdonis, fine be his worshipper, but that reply of his with some random anecdote served zero purpose.[/QUOTE]Waahh! Sounds like someone has the need to be the smartest person in the room. The problem is, you haven't earned it. Sorry, you're not the governor of all that is worthy and good. Too limited a life experience with zero EQ. It's clear that you have an engineer's mind, and that is certainly an insult rather than a compliment. Dork.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2559165]Newsflash, you cared enough to post several times on the topic.

Newsflash, your Norwegian man crush brought up the subject first.

Newsflash, in a population of 100.000, you might want to consider the effect that small sample sizes have on data.

P.S. Still doing great in the "Lockdown Brainwashed USA." 1 kg Lobster was delicious. I named him Pinchy Jr.[/QUOTE]How cute, did your mother finally take you out to dinner or did you just find the photo online? Anyways, I hope that you enjoy being an unemployed loser living with his mother.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2559950]So says the 40 year old good for nothing immigrant. You are certainly an exception to the successful Asian immigrant story that has become a cliche. As for you and that other butt kisser of McA. MCA is alright but boringly pedantic and just prints basic stuff from his Google search front page results. Perhaps that sort of thing impresses simple minds like yours.[/QUOTE]OK Boomer. It's cute that you learned the word pedantic, seems like your word of the day. But clearly, you're overly emotional as you have repeatedly shown an inability to separate facts from personal sentiment. Are you jealous that McA has garnered respect by showing emotional control? You both share somewhat similar educational backgrounds but your boring life of wife and kids from too early an age has left you in arrested development, leaving you with the same ability to process world views as a 29 year old.

You think you're well informed because your simple world of home and work life has instilled a false sense of achievement, but your personal development is obviously stunted. Maybe you should work on your post-family-professional man life in which you clearly stopped growing as an independently thinking man. Nice start when you disappeared for a few months but you came back without any personal growth. More work to be done.

I have yet to see a quote that displays the anti-white sentiment for which you accuse me. It seems that you think criticism means anti-whatever.

Here's some advice, those inbox messages you received from Pistons way back when were the seeds that currently poisons your mind and judgement. Come back to the light.

Pessimist: I hope your friends in nbim gets fired soon! That fund should never have had portfolio managers. The very idea that they have it reeks of corruption. Plus they do a terrible lousy job looking at the results they manage statistically over time. I know people that make trading robots for Wallstreet banks who could automate better results than all the nbim portfolio managers combined. Portfolio managers can be fine in certain funds, but not in this type of fund. It is basically an index fund with some added wannabe rules. Easily automated.

Nurse: weird how 6/6 of the mentioned people you have feuds with are whites.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2559957]Because your friends don't know all the trash you post you here. Do all the women you know realize the kinda anti women diatribes you dumped on us? Do your gay friends know the absolutely disgusting gay slurs you posted? As for me being disconnected. I did not come from money, I don't think I have that much money and just in the last week alone we donated $3 K for Covid, including $500 to an Indian charity after an Indian friend alerted me and now I am trying to get a match from my firm -- if I am so disconnected why would I help a country so far removed from me? And no, it is not for tax benefit, with my filing we get no help from those.

The other day you said I don't have balls because I was not fighting whoever you were fighting. That shows the kinda detached world you and your pals live in (I noticed you roped in one of them for support; makes sense. Around here, it seems like a Survivor show with a couple of groups pitted against each other). You think throwing mud and fighting endlessly is evidence of balls. If ever you are actually responsible for other people's lives and bring them up and make them into productive human beings, you will know what real guts are. If paid sex is all I cared about and if I was that selfish, I could park myself in DE and other mongering destinations forever and not have to work but I am not doing that.[/QUOTE]I hear this mindset a lot from parents. Life is so hard, so many responsibilities, Waahh. Do you think you deserve a trophy for raising the product of a sperm and ovum that you voluntarily brought into the world? It's called your responsibility for your life choices.

I say you don't have balls not because I perceived your lack of alpha male masculinity. I called out your lack of balls to criticize your tendency to think with your emotion rather than with a logical mind, despite your capability to do so. Must be tough to be so emotional yet having such little EQ.

I think Donald Trump donated a decent bit to charity in his life, dude's still a pretty shitty human. You want a cookie for donating 3 K? I've donated hundreds of hours of my personal time providing free medical aid to people much less fortunate than anyone you likely personally know. (Side note, many providers I worked with were white and wealthy and were genuinely interesting in helping other humans). Anyway, at my bill rate, that's worth magnitudes more than your little donation that you use to feel good about yourself. God, you're so cookie cutter it hurts.

To you, on one hand I'm a social-justice race warrior; on the other, I'm a homophobic, ageist chauvinist. Whatever suits your post of the day I guess. But my comments are rooted in sarcasm and trolling, welcome to the internet Boomer. I jokingly call my gay friends fags and lady friends cunts, but they're smart enough to know that. Again, I suspect your issues come from the engineer-corporate man's stereotypically low EQ. Try breaking the stereotype. Grow a little.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2559966]Yeah. Ok. Right. Does anyone else need a whiskey now?[/QUOTE]Clearly you wouldn't understand. You need actual human relationships to truly understand human social dynamics. Poser doesn't even drink. Even too scared to have a beer when in Germany in September. Gin? Whiskey? Do you even know the difference? Hint to start, one is usually clear, the other is usually not.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2559957]That shows the kinda detached world you and your pals live in (I noticed you roped in one of them for support; makes sense. Around here, it seems like a Survivor show with a couple of groups pitted against each other). You think throwing mud and fighting endlessly is evidence of balls.[/QUOTE]Do you feel the ISG walls closing in on you? Good. I've sparred with Paulie numerous times on various ISG threads and messages, much over the exact opposite position for which you accuse me. He and I clearly have differing views, yet here he is, without any nudging from me, independently calling you out on your bullshit. Only the conspiracy theorists and super right wingers form tribes here. The others just come together when we agree on a particular topic. I know I have also disagreed with Rocky before, but we seem to always agree on hard science. Paulie and I disagree on political dichotomies but come together when we see right wing propaganda. McA and I disagree on so many things but seem to be able to discuss them to a point of agreement or respectful disagreement. You on the other hand seem to need validation for your intellect and moral virtues. You're not only not-manly, you're also a little girl who needs constant validation and a tribe of her own.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2559852]So what is the road back according to you?[/QUOTE]When you find yourself in a hole: STOP DIGGING!

"The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result. " - Albert Einstein.

The Hippocratic Oath: "First, do no harm. " Locking up billions of healthy people and strangling the world economy is extremely harmful.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2559934]I've asked that too. His only answer has been "lock up the old and vulnerable". But his own argument that restrictions only delay future spread comes to a halt when you ask, "what do you do to eventually let those people out of quarantine?" doesn't seem to provide solutions since he is anti covid vaccines. Perhaps he wanted old and vulnerable people to be locked up until the vaccine testing meant his 5-10 year requirement.[/QUOTE]So now you concur that the "vaccine" is a rush-job that was never fully tested? For the rest, see my answer to PiZ.

And in other news, it seems that self-proclaimed Vaccine Tsar Bill Gates has been lying about vaccine patents: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZ5DavuOkcM[/URL].

This is what it's al about folks: money & power!

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2559857]I don t know why but Seychelles used low quality Chinese vaccine, after we already knew about low quality Chinese tests. I won t run to vaccine, I never tested but I know how to control how are my lungs, but vaccine, even cheap AZ which is most often refused now in France when we have around 3 millions doses with no client, lower deaths when protecting weakest. UK was out of control on Christmas and beginning of year and much less deaths now, even with their mutant, US have also much less deaths under Biden compare to crazy orange golfer who advised to drink disinfectant. Japan is a surprise with fourth wave now when very low vaccine rate. Russia have to explain us where come from their 460 000 more deaths. I m pretty sure China don t even know how many deaths they have, when they don t vaccine old, and You can disappear so fast there, same like in Switzerland where people who know You can think You died.[/QUOTE]When they gave their mutant for 80% cases in India, UK is now under Indian mutant, telling spreading very fast in UK, when not so fast in EU where UK mutant remain main one. Let s see for evolution and AZ efficiency to protect and stop spreading, when vaccined can still catch. China is erasing in their history Wuhan accident, like they already did for 1989 riots. Never happened in China, rest of the world just invented, with more than 3,5 millions deaths and probably more and not finished and crisis after.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2559328]
Also: Zews,[/QUOTE]Norwegians spell it Zevs.

[URL]https://www.reddit.com/r/norge/comments/95w8b9/zevs_eller_zeus/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Ararat;2560076]Norwegians spell it Zevs.

[URL]https://www.reddit.com/r/norge/comments/95w8b9/zevs_eller_zeus/[/URL][/QUOTE]Yes but in his alternate Norway French are catholic, WHO is a satanist cult, paracetamol comes from tree bark (or from piss I'm getting confused) and Romania lost one half of its population after the fall of the Wall (oops I think it's a theory from another weirdo).

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2559576]When a politician says "there was currently no evidence that the variant would evade the vaccines," you can assume that the opposite is true. Notice the key word: "currently. " Additionally, he already hedged this previous statement this with "this new variant could pose a serious disruption to our progress!" LOL!

Gee, new variants-mutations that render the 'vaccine' useless? Who could have possibly foreseen this? LOL! / sarc.[/QUOTE]Early data suggests that the "Pfizer and Moderna vaccines will still work well against be. 1. 617, just as they do for the variant from South Africa, known as be. 1.351. In both cases, the shots will likely offer high protection from death and severe illness, but they may lose some ability to stop mild or asymptomatic infections."

[QUOTE=Pistons;2560001]Pessimist: I hope your friends in nbim gets fired soon! That fund should never have had portfolio managers. The very idea that they have it reeks of corruption. Plus they do a terrible lousy job looking at the results they manage statistically over time. I know people that make trading robots for Wallstreet banks who could automate better results than all the nbim portfolio managers combined. Portfolio managers can be fine in certain funds, but not in this type of fund. It is basically an index fund with some added wannabe rules. Easily automated.

Nurse: weird how 6/6 of the mentioned people you have feuds with are whites.[/QUOTE]Orphan, funny how 9/10 people on this board are likely white. Statistics is a funny thing.

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2559992]How cute, did your mother finally take you out to dinner or did you just find the photo online? Anyways, I hope that you enjoy being an unemployed loser living with his mother.[/QUOTE]Got some more pics online. Enjoy your less than amazing life. Loser.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2560002]I hear this mindset a lot from parents. Life is so hard, so many responsibilities, Waahh. Do you think you deserve a trophy for raising the product of a sperm and ovum that you voluntarily brought into the world? It's called your responsibility for your life choices.

I say you don't have balls not because I perceived your lack of alpha male masculinity. I called out your lack of balls to criticize your tendency to think with your emotion rather than with a logical mind, despite your capability to do so. Must be tough to be so emotional yet having such little EQ.

I think Donald Trump donated a decent bit to charity in his life, dude's still a pretty shitty human. You want a cookie for donating 3 K? I've donated hundreds of hours of my personal time providing free medical aid to people much less fortunate than anyone you likely personally know. (Side note, many providers I worked with were white and wealthy and were genuinely interesting in helping other humans). Anyway, at my bill rate, that's worth magnitudes more than your little donation that you use to feel good about yourself. God, you're so cookie cutter it hurts..[/QUOTE]"To you, on one hand I'm a social-justice race warrior; on the other, I'm a homophobic, ageist chauvinist. " How so? You are a fucking hypocrite; hence very consistent. You pretend to be a woke idiot but you are just an idiot, period.

"I hear this mindset a lot from parents. Life is so hard" how would you know? Your biggest accomplishment is paying 50 for the next room. When you have actually done something to help other human beings besides your dick, you will know what being a real man is.

"because I perceived your lack of alpha male masculinity. " whatever. I am already in the top 2% by networth and with time alone and staying on the path I am on already, will be top 1% in another 6 to 7 years. You are still sleeping in cars to save bucks for rooms.

Boomer, fags, blah blah. You just blurt out what comes to your mind to feel good at that point. That explains why you are meandering in life pushing 40 and one of the few Asian failures in this nation.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2560097]Early data suggests that the "Pfizer and Moderna vaccines will still work well against be. 1. 617, just as they do for the variant from South Africa, known as be. 1.351.[/QUOTE]And confirmed data says that the covid 19 is way more deadly than the seasonal flu but don't worry, he'll find another paranoid and nonsensical theory.

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2560028]When you find yourself in a hole: STOP DIGGING!

"The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result. " - Albert Einstein.

The Hippocratic Oath: "First, do no harm. " Locking up billions of healthy people and strangling the world economy is extremely harmful.

So now you concur that the "vaccine" is a rush-job that was never fully tested? For the rest, see my answer to PiZ.

And in other news, it seems that self-proclaimed Vaccine Tsar Bill Gates has been lying about vaccine patents: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZ5DavuOkcM[/URL].

This is what it's al about folks: money & power![/QUOTE]Nah. Clearly I said that was your criticism. I actually understand how the clinical trial process works. You are also capable but refuse to listen to facts. Political ideology is your main motivator. That usually hinders authenticity. Do better.

BTW, Albert Einstein never said that. Do you believe everything you read? Apparently so.

[QUOTE] Verdict: False

There is no evidence that Einstein ever said this.

Fact Check:

It does appear in The Ultimate Quotable Einstein, a compilation of Einstein quotes published by Princeton University Press, where it falls under the misattributed

[url]https://checkyourfact.com/2019/06/26/fact-check-albert-einstein-definition-instanity-same-thing-over-different-results/[/url].[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2560028]When you find yourself in a hole: STOP DIGGING! [/QUOTE]If your solution is do nothing, open it up and let it rip, then I suggest you take a look at India or UK or US before the restrictions. The virus is not going away and lockdowns are only delaying the inevitable. Lockdowns or restrictions just buy some time to not overwhelm the hospitals and to have more time to vaccinate people. The virus will be around for the foreseeable future. Most people who are not vaccinated will catch it at some point. Many will not get sick and some will get sick with all the downsides of that.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2560001]Pessimist: I hope your friends in nbim gets fired soon! That fund should never have had portfolio managers. The very idea that they have it reeks of corruption. Plus they do a terrible lousy job looking at the results they manage statistically over time. I know people that make trading robots for Wallstreet banks who could automate better results than all the nbim portfolio managers combined. Portfolio managers can be fine in certain funds, but not in this type of fund. It is basically an index fund with some added wannabe rules. Easily automated.

Nurse: weird how 6/6 of the mentioned people you have feuds with are whites.[/QUOTE]NBIM is run pretty conservatively. You look at NBIM return, think it is 8% or 10% and think hmm, I put 100% in equities and had much higher return, I am better than NBIM. But when they are running $1. 3 T, they can't risk as an individual investor would; their returns are based on allocation.

Having said that, I do think they did underperform of late. As a PM, it is a nice job if you can get it. They don't pay as well as independent asset managers do from what I understood, but even so, the ones managing more than one billion in equities are taking home north of $1 M.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2560013]Do you feel the ISG walls closing in on you? Good. I've sparred with Paulie numerous times on various ISG threads and messages, much over the exact opposite position for which you accuse me. He and I clearly have differing views, yet here he is, without any nudging from me, independently calling you out on your bullshit. Only the conspiracy theorists and super right wingers form tribes here. The others just come together when we agree on a particular topic. I know I have also disagreed with Rocky before, but we seem to always agree on hard science. Paulie and I disagree on political dichotomies but come together when we see right wing propaganda. McA and I disagree on so many things but seem to be able to discuss them to a point of agreement or respectful disagreement. You on the other hand seem to need validation for your intellect and moral virtues. You're not only not-manly, you're also a little girl who needs constant validation and a tribe of her own.[/QUOTE]Couldn't care who you are pals with and not. I don't know this Paulie fella and only noticed him when he attacked me out of fealty to McA. Matter of fact, the first time you randomly attacked me also happened when I got into some argument with McA. Apparently McA has a few butt kissers, with you being at the head. Until you had attacked me the first time, I didn't much attention to you either. And speaking of respectful disagreement, that is a hoot -- you can't open your potty mouth w / o using slurs. Your problem is that you are a washed up riff raff, a stain on the Asian immigrant story.

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2559778]*) "Cases" are skyrocketing in the Seychelles, the most vaccinated country on earth.

*) More travel restrictions due to the "double-mutant" Indian variant.[/QUOTE]Looked into Seychelles. I too can cherry pick data. And here, Seychelles shows a lover case fatality rate than De, US, UK, Israel. Apparently the vaccine is doing the most important job: preventing severe death.

[URL]https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2020-11-21..latest&pickerSort=asc&pickerMetric=location&Metric=Case+fatality+rate&Interval=7-day+rolling+average&Relative+to+Population=true&Align+outbreaks=false&country=SYC~DEU~SWE~USA~IND~ISR~GBR[/URL]

More restrictions? Well not for me:

Italy for Americans:

[URL]https://www.forbes.com/sites/lauriewerner/2021/05/15/italy-reopens-to-us-travelers-if-they-fly-delta/?sh=7e9d7d9f7590[/URL]

Greece, Iceland, others for Americans:

[URL]https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/us-international-travel-covid-19/index.html[/URL]

France on 09. June:

[URL]https://www.travelawaits.com/2657617/france-reopening-to-visitors-june-9-2021/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2560148]NBIM is run pretty conservatively. You look at NBIM return, think it is 8% or 10% and think hmm, I put 100% in equities and had much higher return, I am better than NBIM. But when they are running $1. 3 T, they can't risk as an individual investor would; their returns are based on allocation.

Having said that, I do think they did underperform of late. As a PM, it is a nice job if you can get it. They don't pay as well as independent asset managers do from what I understood, but even so, the ones managing more than one billion in equities are taking home north of $1 M.[/QUOTE]In 9 out of 10 quarters, they get beaten by average index funds. Meaning lousy work. There is no excuse. Just 60% is stocks by the way. A robot also doesn't care how much money it is.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2560128]Orphan, funny how 9/10 people on this board are likely white. Statistics is a funny thing.[/QUOTE]Likely not true. Asians are always overrepresented statistically on these boards. It is probably 30%+ Asians reading this forum. Maybe 40%.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2560084]Yes but in his alternate Norway French are catholic, WHO is a satanist cult, paracetamol comes from tree bark (or from piss I'm getting confused) [/QUOTE]You mix the tree bark with something else. Then you eat the mix and piss out paracetamol. I am not sure what you mix it with yet though. But it's clear.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2560006]Clearly you wouldn't understand. You need actual human relationships to truly understand human social dynamics. Poser doesn't even drink. Even too scared to have a beer when in Germany in September. Gin? Whiskey? Do you even know the difference? Hint to start, one is usually clear, the other is usually not.[/QUOTE]I just don't like the cops outside sharks pulling me over. Only idiots take that risk.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2560149]Couldn't care who you are pals with and not. I don't know this Paulie fella and only noticed him when he attacked me out of fealty to McA. Matter of fact, the first time you randomly attacked me also happened when I got into some argument with McA. Apparently McA has a few butt kissers, with you being at the head. Until you had attacked me the first time, I didn't much attention to you either. And speaking of respectful disagreement, that is a hoot -- you can't open your potty mouth w / o using slurs. Your problem is that you are a washed up riff raff, a stain on the Asian immigrant story.[/QUOTE]You sure about that? I think the first time I criticized you was for your emotional diatribe about deporting Muslims. Before that, we had friendly debates, one being about age of populace and crime. Facts and things.

You seem to be fixated on McA. Creepy dude. I don't think he's into you man. Move on.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2560149]Apparently McA has a few butt kissers, with you being at the head. [/QUOTE]Well, I'm pretty sure that they have some racial and heritage commonalities. Ask me how I know, LOL!

I tried to send you a DM, but it seems like you disabled the DM option.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2560140] How so? You are a fucking hypocrite; hence very consistent. You pretend to be a woke idiot but you are just an idiot, period.[/QUOTE]Ok Boomer. So sensitive. What's the word they use? Snowflake is it. ? I'm definitely not woke, just capable of seeing bullshit. Women and gay people are capable humans just as valuable to society as straight men. But they can also be cunts and fags.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2560140] how would you know? Your biggest accomplishment is paying 50 for the next room. When you have actually done something to help other human beings besides your dick, you will know what being a real man is.[/QUOTE]Okay Dad Bod. Have anymore Harry Potter dementor references? My biggest accomplish is just being a decent human being. Might have pulled a few people from the grasps of death and illness in a my life, took care of some Hondurans and Haitians without access to healthcare, but whatev. You continue being a slave to your senior partner. How does his asshole taste BTW? Make sure you clean his taint and chode thoroughly.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2560140]whatever. I am already in the top 2% by networth and with time alone and staying on the path I am on already, will be top 1% in another 6 to 7 years. You are still sleeping in cars to save bucks for rooms.[/QUOTE]Yes! Slept in the back of a minivan last night on the beach in Saint Pete en route to Pensacola. Was great! Awesome that you are filthy rich! But are you oblivious to how much of a douche you sound with that statement? I have enough put away and investing and command a high enough bill rate to live my nice comfortable, modest life. Good enough for me!

But a household consisting of a physician and a partner at a law / investment firm in their mid 40's should probably be in the top 1% by now. Better get moving!

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2560140]Boomer, fags, blah blah. You just blurt out what comes to your mind to feel good at that point. That explains why you are meandering in life pushing 40 and one of the few Asian failures in this nation.[/QUOTE]Yep, nearing 40. Had my first prostate exam a few weeks ago. Good news, not enlarged!

Anyway, I started my first years in Uni at Georgia Tech. It's amazing how much you remind me of those guys. So well groomed, so well trained. All uniform in thought. Engineers, mostly all the same. Limited in their ability to genuinely interact with humans and think freely outside of protocol, terrible under pressure, and routinely drop the ball when things don't go to plan. Good news is that most grow to become complete humans since their 20's. For some reason, you still live in that cookie cutter world, still confined in arrested development. Come down south, I'll show you my hood. Maybe bring you up to speed on how us bottom 98 percenters live.

[QUOTE=Ararat;2560076]Norwegians spell it Zevs.

[URL]https://www.reddit.com/r/norge/comments/95w8b9/zevs_eller_zeus/[/URL][/QUOTE]Thank you kind sir. Things the rest of us already suspected. But he mentioned something about a "superior" form being spelled Zews. Do you happen to what know that means? In English we have superlative forms of adjectives (most, fastest, biggest, strongest, etc). Never heard of superior forms of nouns though, especially proper nouns.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2560084]Yes but in his alternate Norway French are catholic, WHO is a satanist cult, paracetamol comes from tree bark (or from piss I'm getting confused) and Romania lost one half of its population after the fall of the Wall (oops I think it's a theory from another weirdo).[/QUOTE]What reality are you from where France is not catholic?

Also please stop sucking nurse cock. I know it is tiny, but it really is a penis and not a vaginus. Nature was a bit in a limbo there most likely, so you are excused if you pull away now. But it is starting to look bad for you.

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2560028]The Hippocratic Oath: "First, do no harm. " Locking up billions of healthy people and strangling the world economy is extremely harmful.[/QUOTE]It wasn't doctors who "locked up" people, it was politicians. I agree that there are politicians who enjoy having less checks on their powers during these times.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2560143]And confirmed data says that the covid 19 is way more deadly than the seasonal flu but don't worry, he'll find another paranoid and nonsensical theory.[/QUOTE]Of course. It's a bioweapon!

[QUOTE=Pistons;2560169]Likely not true. Asians are always overrepresented statistically on these boards. It is probably 30%+ Asians reading this forum. Maybe 40%.[/QUOTE]I agree with those numbers. Too bad that's not relevant as they tend to be lurkers and not active in these discussions. Fail again. Whomp whomp whomp.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2560173]I just don't like the cops outside sharks pulling me over. Only idiots take that risk.[/QUOTE]More bullshit from someone who gets to a club at 11 am and leaves the next morning at 4 am. A 2 pm beer would pose no problems for anyone not trying to be a poser.

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2560187]Well, I'm pretty sure that they have some racial and heritage commonalities. Ask me how I know, LOL!

I tried to send you a DM, but it seems like you disabled the DM option.[/QUOTE]Oh look [B]Pessimist[/B], your bullshit is attracting flies. Bend the knee and come back to team good guys. All will be forgiven.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2560197]What reality are you from where France is not catholic?.[/QUOTE]I am in the reality where I live in France, and catholic church has zero influence in France, since the 70's or 60's I would say.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2560195]Thank you kind sir. Things the rest of us already suspected. But he mentioned something about a "superior" form being spelled Zews. Do you happen to what know that means? In English we have superlative forms of adjectives (most, fastest, biggest, strongest, etc). Never heard of superior forms of nouns though, especially proper nouns.[/QUOTE]No, this isn't something I know about. Even normal Norwegians are quite peculiar when it comes to their language since there are two different written languages but I've confirmed that both use Zevs. The only thing I can think of is that he's stuck in time before one of many spelling reforms. V and W are pronounced the same way and these days W is only used in names and loanwords.

What's more is that it's very un-Norwegian to insist a certain spelling is superior. That's because of the 'controversy' of their two languages where one is 'better' but very, very similar to written Danish. The other is using weird spelling that is approximately like the rural dialects of Western Norway.

Wow, so much knowledge Ararat. Maybe you should also know that languages evolve over time as well then? Or that dialects can have tons of different spellings on all sorts of words. Or have you just lived in that hole known as Oslo your entire life?

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2560243]I am in the reality where I live in France, and catholic church has zero influence in France, since the 70's or 60's I would say.[/QUOTE]It still lives on in the minds of the people. Not to mention the entire French book of law is basically built around it! Otherwise, why all the debacle when that old catholic church lit on fire a few years ago?

I seem to recall some rather intricate wordings from several different well known Frenchmen at the time.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2560238]More bullshit from someone who gets to a club at 11 am and leaves the next morning at 4 am. A 2 pm beer would pose no problems for anyone not trying to be a poser.[/QUOTE]Well I've been stopped 2 or 3 times outside of sharks by the cops there, having to exhale. But you are right. It is not the only reason. I also like to stay on top of my chess game and win each time I play. Unlike you! Mr. Micro.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2560236]I agree with those numbers. Too bad that's not relevant as they tend to be lurkers and not active in these discussions. Fail again. Whomp whomp whomp.[/QUOTE]LOL! How can you even say it's fail when you don't have any numbers? You just want to say it's fail because you are a looser.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2560192]Yep, nearing 40. Had my first prostate exam a few weeks ago. Good news, not enlarged![/QUOTE]Well, hardly anyone here is anything near bemused, nor surprised at any of your private parts being the opposite of enlarged.

The nurse is correct on one thing though. We are not the same.

Me: an Alpha who calls anyone anything he likes. (Such as Zews; Because it looks superior).

Nurse: a beta who is afraid of calling an old tribe something else. (Such as Omec. Because he is scared, and follows alphas like me who told him here on the forum that Olmec is a better word. A superior word that simply looks better!

Like I have written here before. I change paradigms. While the nurse is a sheep!

Coming up with new words or spellings is what real intellectual alphas do all the time.

I do it all the time. Almost every day I have a new word or a new spelling.

Here is the word of today, may the 18th: Compostwanker. It describes the nurse and his followers here on ISG who thinks it is a good idea to be wanking in a compost bin. Such as the floating junkyard the nurse spends 18 hours a day in. Really strange people! Weirdos!

[QUOTE=Pistons;2560197]What reality are you from where France is not catholic?

Also please stop sucking nurse cock. I know it is tiny, but it really is a penis and not a vaginus. Nature was a bit in a limbo there most likely, so you are excused if you pull away now. But it is starting to look bad for you.[/QUOTE]The difference between you and I and the people with whom we agree is that I don't have to inbox them like little girls in Jr High. You get credit for puppeteering Pessimist, but people of sound mind and thought don't need to coordinate behind the scenes.

It looks pretty bad when you continuously emulate me. Get over me dude. If I was gay, I'd still be out of your league. You're just too ugly dude.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2556351]Vaccine is to protect yourself, not enough about risk to still spread, when some are vaccined and positive. I don't worry much about virus, but vaccine is not forever and not sure for efficiency about mutants.[/QUOTE]Here's some real data on the results of the vaccine program, this is real world data based on eight different studies. [URL]https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/975911/S1184_SPI-M_University_of_Warwick_Road_Map_Scenarios_and_Sensitivity.pdf[/URL] There are also [B]early[/B] reports that vaccines still work just as well with any variant including the new Indian variant. The big worry at this time is the very easy transmission of the Indian variant which might be 50% worse than the others.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2560149]Couldn't care who you are pals with and not. I don't know this Paulie fella and only noticed him when he attacked me out of fealty to McA. Matter of fact, the first time you randomly attacked me also happened when I got into some argument with McA. Apparently McA has a few butt kissers, with you being at the head.[/QUOTE]Butt kissers? Fealty? Seems like hyperbole. I really do not care who takes my side or is against me, personal connections other posters might have to each other on a sex forum. Pedantic, boring? That seems fair. Debates that go back and forth, that is history to me. I enjoy your analysis and you bring up solid points, and you never struck me as hateful towards any one group. I haven't been fully following the back and forth between you and Mursenary.

Italian study: "The prevalence of ED, measured with the Sexual Health Inventory for Men, was significantly higher in the COVID+ group (28% vs. 9. 33%; p = 0. 027)."

[URL]https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/andr.13003[/URL]

[QUOTE=Downandup;2560380]Here's some real data on the results of the vaccine program, this is real world data based on eight different studies. [URL]https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/975911/S1184_SPI-M_University_of_Warwick_Road_Map_Scenarios_and_Sensitivity.pdf[/URL] There are also [B]early[/B] reports that vaccines still work just as well with any variant including the new Indian variant. The big worry at this time is the very easy transmission of the Indian variant which might be 50% worse than the others.[/QUOTE]I prefer the reality: In Marseilles IHU (I don't believe that those people are not trustful) in the last weeks had 350 infected people who already got the 2 shots of vaccine at least 2 weeks back. IHU is one of the leading team which probably published the most about the covid.

[QUOTE=Downandup;2560380]Here's some real data on the results of the vaccine program, this is real world data based on eight different studies. [URL]https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/975911/S1184_SPI-M_University_of_Warwick_Road_Map_Scenarios_and_Sensitivity.pdf[/URL] There are also [B]early[/B] reports that vaccines still work just as well with any variant including the new Indian variant. The big worry at this time is the very easy transmission of the Indian variant which might be 50% worse than the others.[/QUOTE]How do you know it is the real data? I think we no longer know what is real and what is not as there are so many bullshit surrounding this virus as well as the vaccines LOL!

These real whatever is truthful as FKK girls to me LOL! It is all kinda hard to believe and only thing that is real in FKK is orgasm LOL!

[QUOTE=Downandup;2560380]Here's some real data on the results of the vaccine program, this is real world data based on eight different studies. [URL]https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/975911/S1184_SPI-M_University_of_Warwick_Road_Map_Scenarios_and_Sensitivity.pdf[/URL] There are also [B]early[/B] reports that vaccines still work just as well with any variant including the new Indian variant. The big worry at this time is the very easy transmission of the Indian variant which might be 50% worse than the others.[/QUOTE]You guys are being duped by the vaccine. The vaccines are serving the billionaires to make money and keep you sick by crap vaccines (deliberate). SICKNESS = PROFIT.

1. If you are healthy and young, risk of having a fatal Covid19 infection is very low and no reason to take the vaccine.

2. If you get infected by Covid19, you will have LIFELONG immunity for ALL MUTATIONS / STRAINS because all variants are SIMILAR to each other.

3. If you take the vaccine you are taking a serious risk of damaging your body with adverse reactions (blod clots, heart attack, auto-immune response).

4. Experimental Covid Vaccine causes long-term damage and harm to your body and immune system.

5. Research paper from Texas Uni from 2012 shows that mice that got treated with SARS vaccines developed fatal immunopathology.

6. The Covid vaccine offers no protection against other mutations (hence the BigPharma mafia pushes "booster" vaccine scam as reason to profit more from the crisis they created).

7. yes Covid is a bio weapon. According to Francis Boyle, bio-weapon expert from Wuhan. Therefore vaccine agenda is a scam. They offer false solution (they profit and make you sick).

8. The Covid vaccine is experimental and has no long term track record. Mandatory vaccinations are a violation of human rights.

Which one of the anti vaxxers trolls created a new nickname?

[QUOTE=Pistons;2560314]Wow, so much knowledge Ararat. Maybe you should also know that languages evolve over time as well then? Or that dialects can have tons of different spellings on all sorts of words. Or have you just lived in that hole known as Oslo your entire life?[/QUOTE]You're not funny. I saw another post by you that you since you couldn't spell Zeus properly even in your own language you are an intellectual alpha.

Did you also ride your bike in the mountains faster than the TdF champs?

Neither him nor you realize how it looks.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2560317]Well I've been stopped 2 or 3 times outside of sharks by the cops there, having to exhale. But you are right. It is not the only reason. I also like to stay on top of my chess game and win each time I play. Unlike you! Mr. Micro.[/QUOTE]Asian penis jokes and calling me a nurse seems to be all you can come with. How aggressively unoriginal of you.

Here's what you and I both know: no matter how much you want to save face with the ISG public, resorting to fabricating realities and stereotypes in order to reach for insults means that you don't have anything tangible on me. You're just confirming my belief that you are an inferior human.

Congratulations, you've admitted to a simple misspelling in the least elegant way possible. You sound like a 12 year old kid caught in a lie and is now trying to salvage a story. The adult thing to do and the all around better strategy is to just admit error and move on. Same for paracetamol.

Intellectuals gain a thorough understanding on a subject before professing insightful knowledge. You however just throw a pile of superficial familiarity against the wall and hope that a few things stick. That's not intelligence. It's a broken clock being right twice a day. (You might have to think really hard about that last line).

[B][u]And finally:[/u][/B]

Your six subsequent posts to me is a textbook display of keyboard rage. Furthermore, it just reconfirms this pathetic, personal vendetta of yours. Accept the truth: your only value has ever been to be an [B]FKK downtime filler[/B] during the middle of the week when lineups were weaker and other mongers were working. Once the weekends came or another international monger arrived, you no longer had any use. In fact, you became an [B]embarrassing, socially awkward liability[/B], only offering negative value to social situations. You have tried to befriend several FKK mongers and [B]every single one has preferred to sever personal communications with you.[/B].

P.S. Alpha's never have to label themselves alphas. Other people will silently anoint them.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2560384]Butt kissers? Fealty? Seems like hyperbole. I really do not care who takes my side or is against me, personal connections other posters might have to each other on a sex forum. Pedantic, boring? That seems fair. Debates that go back and forth, that is history to me. I enjoy your analysis and you bring up solid points, and you never struck me as hateful towards any one group. I haven't been fully following the back and forth between you and Mursenary.[/QUOTE]I pledge Fealty (sic) to King McAdonis. Bending the knee!

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2560494]Which one of the anti vaxxers trolls created a new nickname?[/QUOTE]I think he was shooting for how many absurd things he can cram in one single post.

[QUOTE=Ararat;2560514]You're not funny. I saw another post by you that you since you couldn't spell Zeus properly even in your own language you are an intellectual alpha.

Did you also ride your bike in the mountains faster than the TdF champs?

Neither him nor you realize how it looks.[/QUOTE]Oh buhu! Go cry to your mommy! You cannot even articulate a single sentence. I found 3 errors in just one of the sentences you tried to spell out there just now. Halfwit! Let alone have any knowledge regarding the hundreds of dialects we have. I have my own dialect by the way. There is 0 pride in new Norwegian as you claim. Some places take pride in dialects. But you don't seem to know that. Meaning you are either a wikipedia wannabe, or some double who moved into Oslo a few years ago!

[QUOTE=Pistons;2560316]It still lives on in the minds of the people. Not to mention the entire French book of law is basically built around it! Otherwise, why all the debacle when that old catholic church lit on fire a few years ago?

I seem to recall some rather intricate wordings from several different well known Frenchmen at the time.[/QUOTE]Less and less among young ones, but still many people who need to go to church in France, mainly in villages where church is socialize place, like market. Of course, covid and lockdown slowered, but these people will return after tomorrow.

From Pfizer and Moderna data. The relative risk reduction is around 95%. Sound great right? That mean it does not matter if you take the vaccine or not. If 100% of the population take the vaccine. You reduce your risk by 95%. This number will be less if population vaccination is less than 100%.

Now, using the same data to calculate absolute risk reduction. This look at risk on the individual level, taking the vaccine will reduce your risk by only 0. 7 to 1%.

With variants both risk reduction number will drop. Oh shit.

Dr Geert Vanden Bossche made a logical argument why mass vaccination is a bad idea. He may or may not be right, but it is logical.

The data from VitaminD is good. Ivermectin is better. I take 5000 IU a day. And brought some ivermectin for the I-MASK protocol just in case I need it. This virus is not a big deal. They will never approve the use of ivermectin for COVID because by doing so, the vaccine will loose its EUA status.

If I remember correctly. In the past, you are positive when PCR cycle thresholds are 40 or less. But what does this mean? If your CT is 10, you are very positive. If your CT is 20, yep you are still positive. If your CT is 28, you are positive. If your CT are 39, I don't know, maybe, I demand a second test, opinion.

Now that they roll out the vaccine. The CDC reduce the CT to 28! Anything over 28 is now negative LOL. Soo we are over counting positive in the past. Now, we want to count it correctly too make the vaccine look good. LOL. You can't make this shit up.

[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2560591]From Pfizer and Moderna data. The relative risk reduction is around 95%. Sound great right? That mean it does not matter if you take the vaccine or not. If 100% of the population take the vaccine. You reduce your risk by 95%. This number will be less if population vaccination is less than 100%.

Now, using the same data to calculate absolute risk reduction. This look at risk on the individual level, taking the vaccine will reduce your risk by only 0. 7 to 1%.

With variants both risk reduction number will drop. Oh shit.

Dr Geert Vanden Bossche made a logical argument why mass vaccination is a bad idea. He may or may not be right, but it is logical.

The data from VitaminD is good. Ivermectin is better. I take 5000 IU a day. And brought some ivermectin for the I-MASK protocol just in case I need it. This virus is not a big deal. They will never approve the use of ivermectin for COVID because by doing so, the vaccine will loose its EUA status.[/QUOTE]Ivermectin has caused a lot of problems in clinical use. It has become a talking point for people of a specific political ideology but has routinely caused more harm than good. We have used it on 3 occasions (per family request) in my hospital. No ICU provider would actually clear it but if used under the umbrella of "compassionate care", the palliative medicine team was willing to help manage the case. Basically, at that point, in order to rationalize its use per family request, these patients became designated as "end of life" patients. For all 3 patients, it caused severe cardiac dysrhythmias and one was passed within 12 hrs.

For background reference, ivermectin is an anti-parasitic drug mainly used in livestock. While it may be effective in preventing viral replication and safe in low doses, the much higher dose needed to be effective in humans causes severe side effects, specifically cardiac death.

Our resident Keebler Elf Dr. Fauxchi says that Pfizer and Moderna effectively combat the Indian mutation. No word on J&J, wonderful / s Also, EU might make an announcement today RE USA travel to EU. Perhaps things are moving along at quicker pace than expected. Or not.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2560316]It still lives on in the minds of the people. Not to mention the entire French book of law is basically built around it! Otherwise, why all the debacle when that old catholic church lit on fire a few years ago.[/QUOTE]The French book of law is not built around it, since one century ago there was a law written saying that the church and the state were now separated. Unless you mean that prohibiting and punishing murder is a catholic law.

Of course France has deep catholic roots like a good share of western Europe, it was considered as the eldest daughter of the Church, protestants were segregated or even slaughtered during the Middle Age but now it's a thing of the past. Notre Dame is a famous monument now, most of the people (including me) were shocked because of the symbol, just like if there was an accident at the Eiffel tower.

The last government which was clearly catholic was the Vichy administration during the German occupation and they were collaborating with the nazis.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2560519]Asian penis jokes and calling me a nurse seems to be all you can come with. How aggressively unoriginal of you.

Here's what you and I both know: no matter how much you want to save face with the ISG public, resorting to fabricating realities and stereotypes in order to reach for insults means that you don't have anything tangible on me. You're just confirming my belief that you are an inferior human.

Congratulations, you've admitted to a simple misspelling in the least elegant way possible. You sound like a 12 year old kid caught in a lie and is now trying to salvage a story. The adult thing to do and the all around better strategy is to just admit error and move on. Same for paracetamol..[/QUOTE]Not my business, but just laughable story with 2 ex brothels friends who fell under jealousy, when they used to go to meet in brothels. I heard so many times such story, but when heard some guys who were in love and looked her beloved going to be fucked, or some taking bank credit to buy a house in Romania without even being the owner, but I never heard such pathetic Sharks story. You needed to tell me rather than keeping for you, like being proud to be so pathetic, furthermore when knowing the girl and how she became after her first month, and even knowing not to be her only Sharks BF, also to laugh about LR Bob Marley daughter story, so I can just laugh when reading about my behavior and my advice can only be: stay safe with no brothel friend, best way to be only focused on only worthing goal = girls and hard job for me to find one who looks like a woman and I know how it may be difficult for me on my return, like at Swiss 1 year ago when I was not even able to go with any girl, after driving 650 kms for a Globe girl on tagesplan, smiling when I arrived, Gianina. De also coming smiling like she often did, but too difficult for me on that day. Didn't even return on next day because I felt I was not ready. Needed a bit of time to get used to this business.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2560557]Oh buhu! Go cry to your mommy! You cannot even articulate a single sentence. I found 3 errors in just one of the sentences you tried to spell out there just now. Halfwit! Let alone have any knowledge regarding the hundreds of dialects we have. I have my own dialect by the way. There is 0 pride in new Norwegian as you claim. Some places take pride in dialects. But you don't seem to know that. Meaning you are either a wikipedia wannabe, or some double who moved into Oslo a few years ago![/QUOTE]Your schoolshooter anger can't disguise that you're being called out for being a delusional clown.

I'm sure you have a katana hanging on your bedroom wall.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2560519]Asian penis jokes and calling me a nurse seems to be all you can come with. How aggressively unoriginal of you.

Here's what you and I both know: no matter how much you want to save face with the ISG public, resorting to fabricating realities and stereotypes in order to reach for insults means that you don't have anything tangible on me. You're just confirming my belief that you are an inferior human.

Congratulations, you've admitted to a simple misspelling in the least elegant way possible. You sound like a 12 year old kid caught in a lie and is now trying to salvage a story. The adult thing to do and the all around better strategy is to just admit error and move on. Same for paracetamol.

Intellectuals gain a thorough understanding on a subject before professing insightful knowledge. You however just throw a pile of superficial familiarity against the wall and hope that a few things stick. That's not intelligence. It's a broken clock being right twice a day. (You might have to think really hard about that last line)..[/QUOTE]Why don't you get a job and a real life? It's rather pathetic to see how you live your life on ISG, no one cares about your opinion and all of your posts are irrelevant. You're a pathetic troll.

[QUOTE=Ararat;2560514]You're not funny. I saw another post by you that you since you couldn't spell Zeus properly even in your own language you are an intellectual alpha.

Did you also ride your bike in the mountains faster than the TdF champs?

Neither him nor you realize how it looks.[/QUOTE]Yikes dude, do you even realize how you come across with all your BS posts? How about a trip report? Oh right, you've probably never even been to any FKK.

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2560420]I prefer the reality: In Marseilles IHU (I don't believe that those people are not trustful) in the last weeks had 350 infected people who already got the 2 shots of vaccine at least 2 weeks back. IHU is one of the leading team which probably published the most about the covid.[/QUOTE]I don't know what Marseilles IHU is, it does not seem to be a source of knowledge accepted in the real world.

IHU is the home of Didier Raoult who is a little bit of an attention working girl. He's the one who advertised for hydroxychloroquin, he also said last year that there would not be a second wave. He has some tricks to make everyone believe he publishes a lot so he can get lots of money for his hospital.

He's loved among all the conspiracy theories circles.

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2560420]I prefer the reality: In Marseilles IHU (I don't believe that those people are not trustful) in the last weeks had 350 infected people who already got the 2 shots of vaccine at least 2 weeks back. IHU is one of the leading team which probably published the most about the covid.[/QUOTE]Do you have a link, I wouldn't mind reading about that. I know enough French. One small caveat about IHU Marseilles, it's led by Didier Raoult, the original HCQ guy.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2560519]Asian penis jokes and calling me a nurse seems to be all you can come with. How aggressively unoriginal of you.[/QUOTE]It was not a joke. And it had nothing to do with stereotyping. It was facts related to you. Simply put.

P.S. you also write too much. I get bored halfway through your second paragraph. ZzzZZZzzz.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2560519]Asian penis jokes and calling me a nurse seems to be all you can come with. How aggressively unoriginal of you.[/QUOTE]It was not a joke. And it had nothing to do with stereotyping. It was facts related to you. Simply put. And Mr. Micro is your new name. I will stop calling you nurse from now on. This is my dialect. And I am proud of it!

P.S. you also write too much. I get bored halfway through your second paragraph. ZzzZZZzzz. Please take a writing course in order to keep interest up!

Listen to yourself: 'you might want to think really hard about that last line'. Geez! Give me a break Mr. Micro. You are wrong about everything. Have 0 friends. Suck some other guys cock in what you call bending the knee position, in order to keep 1 single friend. And you have no idea how to talk to girls. Even FKK girls!

And what is up with the bold and underlined scribbles? New tactics? Reminds me of these people on Facebook who write one sentence in caps lock with some colored background. Thereby thinking they are Plato or Socrates. LOL!

[QUOTE=Ararat;2560677]Your schoolshooter anger can't disguise that you're being called out for being a delusional clown.

I'm sure you have a katana hanging on your bedroom wall.[/QUOTE]Hah! I should have known! You are just one more of Mr. Micro's alternate handles!

That linguistic there can only be his drivel! Read it too many times before. Only a micro penis mind works like that!

With your next handle, please put more effort into hiding it past the first 2 posts!

I cannot imagine anything more beta than sucking a guys cock while still attending FKKs and paying girls to go to the room. But Mr. Micro is pushing boundaries. Dude, it's fine as long as you admit to being gay! I don't have anything against gay people. Just be honest about it! And I thought the beta linguistics with Omec was bad. Boy was I wrong!

[QUOTE=Pistons;2560718]I cannot imagine anything more beta than sucking a guys cock while still attending FKKs...[/QUOTE]This is a bit too much even for Rants and WTF are you talking about, in my opinion.

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2560688]How about a trip report? Oh right, you've probably never even been to any FKK.[/QUOTE]Says the guy without any trip report. Funny.

Why are people who post so much BS so obsessed with penises?

Pathetic little clown. What you're saying is that sane people must be the one and the same person behind all the handles. To you it's inconceivable that all these people acting like you're crazy could be different people.

Your doctor told you to take the pills every day. It's quite common for lunatics to stop doing that after a while but I'm urging you to start again. You're obviously unwell.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2560712]Hah! I should have known! You are just one more of Mr. Micro's alternate handles!

That linguistic there can only be his drivel! Read it too many times before. Only a micro penis mind works like that!

With your next handle, please put more effort into hiding it past the first 2 posts![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Turgid;2560772]This is a bit too much even for Rants and WTF are you talking about, in my opinion.[/QUOTE]He's clearly lost it. His diatribe after being called out for his misspelling of Zeus can't be written by a normal person.

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2560688]Yikes dude, do you even realize how you come across with all your BS posts? How about a trip report? Oh right, you've probably never even been to any FKK.[/QUOTE]Bror,

You're a funnier troll than Pistons. He is probably sincere but you're clearly only here to rile up people.

Your nunber of trip reports is Zero. That's why you 'accuse' others of not writing any trip reports. I chuckled a bit.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2560785]Why are people who post so much BS so obsessed with penises?[/QUOTE]I think they all had a crush on Murse. And the break-up was nasty.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2560785]Why are people who post so much BS so obsessed with penises?[/QUOTE]Why are people on a hunting forum so obsessed with guns?

I was discussing my cock with a girl at Sharks two years ago. She claimed it was so big. So I started laughing after telling her 17-18 cm is just standard average size. But she refused, and said most guys only had like 12 cm (Mr. Micro I've been told only has 4-5 cm). That was what she showed me with her hand. It ended up with us both agreeing that the reason many people go to fkks, is that their gfs have broken up with them due to small penises.

I don't have an issue talking about my weapon here. But I understand someone might want to hide it.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2560820]Why are people on a hunting forum so obsessed with guns?[/QUOTE]It's good that you agree that you are obsessed with penises. First step is to admit your problem. Good boy.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2560820]Why are people on a hunting forum so obsessed with guns?[/QUOTE]Well normally on an heterosexual paysex forum you could be obsessed with pussies.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2560835]It's good that you agree that you are obsessed with penises. First step is to admit your problem. Good boy.[/QUOTE]Kinda obsessed with my own cock! But the only psychologists I go to are hot girl. My ex is a psychologist. She was into all these stone age instinctual games and wanted to find out why. So understanding the sexual mind is something I've discussed plenty with her! Don't need a weak minded 'penis guy' like you.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2560772]This is a bit too much even for Rants and WTF are you talking about, in my opinion.[/QUOTE]That's double standards! So discussing BBJ and CBJ from a girl is fine, but a brojob is not? Where I am from, we introduced equality between genders long ago. Doesn't mean I like brojobs myself. But on a sex form it is certainly within the limits of discussion!

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2560420]I prefer the reality: In Marseilles IHU (I don't believe that those people are not trustful) in the last weeks had 350 infected people who already got the 2 shots of vaccine at least 2 weeks back. IHU is one of the leading team which probably published the most about the covid.[/QUOTE]Didn't hear about this on french national news? Maybe hidden in Marseille north suburb? But yes, can be vaccined and still get and can even give. French medical ask to keep protection: mask, distance, washing hands, even being vaccined, furthermore with mutants, when Indian is now spreading in UK who will come for holidays in EU.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2560830]I was discussing my cock with a girl at Sharks two years ago. She claimed it was so big. So I started laughing after telling her 17-18 cm is just standard average size. But she refused, and said most guys only had like 12 cm (Mr. Micro I've been told only has 4-5 cm). That was what she showed me with her hand. It ended up with us both agreeing that the reason many people go to fkks, is that their gfs have broken up with them due to small penises.

I don't have an issue talking about my weapon here. But I understand someone might want to hide it.[/QUOTE]Your girl was right: Caucasian average is 12, my mistake when I was sure from when I played football, at about 14/15 when body change, so we compared, when some were hiding, and I got in mind from this time, less than 15 is small, but when you open eyes under shower in brothels, when some are still up from viagra, then you understand, and even for Caucasians. But length is not all if like a long finger, when thick fill better and being very hard from blood pressure when you have sporty heart not in prison in fat, is better felt by girls who are proud to make you very hard and when you tell them this is all natural, from reaction about her. Average Caucasian pussy is not much more than 10 cm. In brothels, easy to know: if girls don't tell you anything or let you fuck hard, then you are small. If all girls worry, then you have to adapt and good test is do they come back or not? I doubt if you hurt them. Women in normal life seem to have more vagina potential and to desire more real size.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2560818]I think they all had a crush on Murse. And the break-up was nasty.[/QUOTE]Trail of tears. I gave them try-outs for the Make-A-Wish-Foundation. Dangled the possibility of having a friend then snatched it away. They didn't make the team.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2560676]Not my business, but just laughable story with 2 ex brothels friends who fell under jealousy, when they used to go to meet in brothels. I heard so many times such story, but when heard some guys who were in love and looked her beloved going to be fucked, or some taking bank credit to buy a house in Romania without even being the owner, but I never heard such pathetic Sharks story. You needed to tell me rather than keeping for you, like being proud to be so pathetic, furthermore when knowing the girl and how she became after her first month, and even knowing not to be her only Sharks BF, also to laugh about LR Bob Marley daughter story, so I can just laugh when reading about my behavior and my advice can only be: stay safe with no brothel friend, best way to be only focused on only worthing goal = girls and hard job for me to find one who looks like a woman and I know how it may be difficult for me on my return, like at Swiss 1 year ago when I was not even able to go with any girl, after driving 650 kms for a Globe girl on tagesplan, smiling when I arrived, Gianina. De also coming smiling like she often did, but too difficult for me on that day. Didn't even return on next day because I felt I was not ready. Needed a bit of time to get used to this business.[/QUOTE]Boring and repetitive as always.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2560708]It was not a joke. And it had nothing to do with stereotyping. It was facts related to you. Simply put. And Mr. Micro is your new name. I will stop calling you nurse from now on. This is my dialect. And I am proud of it!

P.S. you also write too much. I get bored halfway through your second paragraph. ZzzZZZzzz. Please take a writing course in order to keep interest up!

Listen to yourself: 'you might want to think really hard about that last line'. Geez! Give me a break Mr. Micro. You are wrong about everything. Have 0 friends. Suck some other guys cock in what you call bending the knee position, in order to keep 1 single friend. And you have no idea how to talk to girls. Even FKK girls!

And what is up with the bold and underlined scribbles? New tactics? Reminds me of these people on Facebook who write one sentence in caps lock with some colored background. Thereby thinking they are Plato or Socrates. LOL![/QUOTE]Rant away, I know the truth hurts more:

Accept the truth: your only value has ever been to be an [B]FKK downtime filler[/B] during the middle of the week when lineups were weaker and other mongers were working. Once the weekends came or another international monger arrived, you no longer had any use. In fact, you became an [B]embarrassing, socially awkward liability[/B], only offering negative value to social situations. You have tried to befriend several FKK mongers and [B]every single one has preferred to sever personal communications with you.[/B].

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2560866]Your girl was right[/QUOTE]Great, the two of you found your intellectually equivalent, now the two of you can compare your cocks. Which one of you has the measuring tape?

[QUOTE=Ararat;2560797]Bror,

You're a funnier troll than Pistons. He is probably sincere but you're clearly only here to rile up people.

Your nunber of trip reports is Zero. That's why you 'accuse' others of not writing any trip reports. I chuckled a bit.[/QUOTE]Thank you for exposing yourself so obviously, you're self-admittedly just here to troll and spread lies. Your number of trip reports is Zero.

I've written multiple trip reports and it's easily to see for anyone that isn't a liar or moron. So what are you, a liar or just a moron?

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2560866]Your girl was right: Caucasian average is 12, my mistake when I was sure from when I played football, at about 14/15 when body change, so we compared, when some were hiding, and I got in mind from this time, less than 15 is small, but when you open eyes under shower in brothels, when some are still up from viagra, then you understand, and even for Caucasians. But length is not all if like a long finger, when thick fill better and being very hard from blood pressure when you have sporty heart not in prison in fat, is better felt by girls who are proud to make you very hard and when you tell them this is all natural, from reaction about her. Average Caucasian pussy is not much more than 10 cm. In brothels, easy to know: if girls don't tell you anything or let you fuck hard, then you are small. If all girls worry, then you have to adapt and good test is do they come back or not? I doubt if you hurt them. Women in normal life seem to have more vagina potential and to desire more real size.[/QUOTE]Well, what I've read and been told from all sorts of girls is that unless they are horny, 10-12 cm is the length of the pussy. But if you make them horny, 18-20 cm. But probably dependent on the height of the girl too. Maybe even more with 1.70+ or 1.75+ tall girls for all I know. Science numbers is one thing. Practice and first hand info is usually a better one.

I just know I go similar to balls deep with 90% of the girls age 23+. With younger ones perhaps slightly fewer, but there thickness can be more of an issue. Even tiny girls like Stephania who was maybe 19 at the time there was no problem. But some girls are more wild and extrovert than others too of course! I'm talking about the different chess pieces of course. Just for the record now.

[QUOTE=Ararat;2560792]He's clearly lost it. His diatribe after being called out for his misspelling of Zeus can't be written by a normal person.[/QUOTE]Mental health and the pandemic restrictions have exacerbated a lot of people's internal problems. You can clearly see it in how radical people's online presence have become. I myself have fallen into some pretty bad screen addiction and have definitely entertained my introvert side more than is healthy. Those are things that I feel I can overcome relatively easily with concerted effort as society opens back up. However, the bad habits of those with prepandemic mental health issues such as self grandiose delusions and irrational thinking or even extreme laziness will pose much tougher challenges for those people. I suspect that posters like Shoo have not changed much. He's a clown, simple as that. HT doesn't seem to be affected so much as his posts are just rooted in political ideology. But examine Pistons and Sirioja and you can see that they have fallen deeper into their fabricated realities constructed as a defense mechanism against social rejection. The problem for them is that their imaginary worlds have become more cemented as reality the more time they are removed from society's checks against an individual's alternate realities.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2560866]1. Your girl was right: Caucasian average is 12, I

2. In brothels, easy to know: if girls don't tell you anything or let you fuck hard, then you are small.[/QUOTE]1. Fairly certain that it would be bigger than 12 cm.

2. That's the most insightful thing you've ever said.

Well, what I've read and been told from all sorts of girls is that unless they are horny, 10-12 cm is the length of the pussy. But if you make them horny, 18-20 cm. But probably dependent on the height of the girl too. Maybe even more with 1.70+ or 1.75+ tall girls for all I know. Science numbers is one thing. Practice and first hand info is usually a better one.

I don't believe there is a link between the deepness of the vagina and the size of the girl. Many girls are telling me that I am anaconda, but sometimes even with fresh beauties far from being over fucked I feel nothing just because their vagina is too large, sometimes I met woman over 30 with extremely tight vagina very difficult to enter. When you see a man you can t guess how big is his dick, same for the woman until you try impossible to guess about the size or form of their vagina.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2560896]Great, the two of you found your intellectually equivalent, now the two of you can compare your cocks. Which one of you has the measuring tape?[/QUOTE]Better than that, put them side by side in the lockers or in the showers, take a picture and post it here so we can judge.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2560878]Boring and repetitive as always.[/QUOTE]Don't forget, you needed to come to me at LR, telling me your so pathetic story when I didn't ask You anything, asking me advice for a girl and I advised you your bald French friend here ex risky GF, did she take many towels for bed? Did I ask you any advice? Or on next day at GT? When I did let Lucifer. De free for You who were waiting whole evening. I would not even have seen you if You didn't come to me and it would have been better when I don t need. I even remember you told me I improved my English, didn't you? Covid just confirmed me I can control easily, I could go to Switzerland, I don t go when many Germans who are in need and French go, I'm too demanding for escorts looks now in Paris, when I really liked to taste weekly when I enjoyed a girl. More difficult frustration about no ski, but wish I can on this Summer when snow should be not so bad, even not safe solid.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2560905]Well, what I've read and been told from all sorts of girls is that unless they are horny, 10-12 cm is the length of the pussy. But if you make them horny, 18-20 cm. But probably dependent on the height of the girl too. Maybe even more with 1.70+ or 1.75+ tall girls for all I know. Science numbers is one thing. Practice and first hand info is usually a better one.

I just know I go similar to balls deep with 90% of the girls age 23+. With younger ones perhaps slightly fewer, but there thickness can be more of an issue. Even tiny girls like Stephania who was maybe 19 at the time there was no problem. But some girls are more wild and extrovert than others too of course! I'm talking about the different chess pieces of course. Just for the record now.[/QUOTE]When I use to DATY to cum girls before fucking, how I started to rebuild for sex my 2 last girlfriends who were little mum, to make girls open and wet, but nevertheless, after this, I have to be careful when entering and when starting to move inside, when You know I m attracted by some taller than 170, but vagina length have nothing to do with height, same like for dick length. I just noticed most of fat have small dick size. If girls could extend vagina to 18, it would be much easier for me, when I really need to start slowly. For sure I can t fuck like shame ugly Woodman, because no girl would accept to repeat and they would not even be able to let me finish. I remember with Luana LR on September 2016, I could hardly enter 10 cm, like in porn, just entering a bit to show movement, and I worried so much to hurt her. One 173 and 55 kgs, not so far from my weight to be on top for climbing performances, told me with round eyes: I can t with You, when I was not even hard up, I thought she wanted to stop the room, I told her: trust me, I will be careful. I remember her round eyes, like terrified, holding my arms when entering inside her, even very slowly, but even I didn't even think about at the end of discovery, but we repeated 2 hours later and she always made free for me after. Other example is when extra 200 for anal at Globe, but no girl never proposed me, nor at Amesia ex Bumsalp. Sex was easier for me in real life, when mostly small pussies in brothels. Even with my fitness 177 model German escort who was fire for love sex, always looking me in the eyes, but after second round, she usually started to push me off, contracting her vagina, so I asked her: You don t want me anymore, and once she threw me: You can become a real animal exhausting me. Peste / pimps may be really Asian size. I remember with pretty, classy Floretina. Ro at Sharks on end of 2017, unfortunately booked whole Fridays, so I stopped, but I asked her to go to elephant room close to SM. I made her laugh telling her: look at my brother, standing close to elephant head, but I had to be so careful with her, after she was booked from 2 pm to midnight, telling me: You wait me. After 2 Fridays, I told her: I stop, even she was the prettiest at this time for me, but I'm not a waiter, I need girls make free for me.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2560878]Boring and repetitive as always.[/QUOTE]All your posts are irrelevant, boring and full of personal attacks.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2560850]That's double standards! So discussing BBJ and CBJ from a girl is fine, but a brojob is not? Where I am from, we introduced equality between genders long ago. Doesn't mean I like brojobs myself. But on a sex form it is certainly within the limits of discussion![/QUOTE]

This is what the Admin says:

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[QUOTE=Ararat;2560983]This is what the Admin says:

No Discussion about Homosexuals, Transvestites, Transsexuals or She-Males: Please do not post any messages anywhere on this site that refers to Homosexuals, Transvestites, Transsexuals or She-Males. This website is about sex between men who were always men and women who were always women. Any person violating this policy will banned immediately.[/QUOTE]Let's ban all the weirdos who check other dude's dicks under the showers.

I think they're on the wrong forum.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2560972]When I use to DATY to cum girls before fucking, how I started to rebuild for sex my 2 last girlfriends who were little mum, to make girls open and wet, but nevertheless, after this, I have to be careful when entering and when starting to move inside, when You know I m attracted by some taller than 170, but vagina length have nothing to do with height, same like for dick length. I just noticed most of fat have small dick size. If girls could extend vagina to 18, it would be much easier for me, when I really need to start slowly. For sure I can t fuck like shame ugly Woodman, because no girl would accept to repeat and they would not even be able to let me finish. I remember with Luana LR on September 2016, I could hardly enter 10 cm, like in porn, just entering a bit to show movement, and I worried so much to hurt her. One 173 and 55 kgs, not so far from my weight to be on top for climbing performances, told me with round eyes: I can t with You, when I was not even hard up, I thought she wanted to stop the room, I told her: trust me, I will be careful. I remember her round eyes, like terrified, holding my arms when entering inside her, even very slowly, but even I didn't even think about at the end of discovery, but we repeated 2 hours later and she always made free for me after. Other example is when extra 200 for anal at Globe, but no girl never proposed me, nor at Amesia ex Bumsalp. Sex was easier for me in real life, when mostly small pussies in brothels. Even with my fitness 177 model German escort who was fire for love sex, always looking me in the eyes, but after second round, she usually started to push me off, contracting her vagina, so I asked her: You don t want me anymore, and once she threw me: You can become a real animal exhausting me. Peste / pimps may be really Asian size. I remember with pretty, classy Floretina. Ro at Sharks on end of 2017, unfortunately booked whole Fridays, so I stopped, but I asked her to go to elephant room close to SM. I made her laugh telling her: look at my brother, standing close to elephant head, but I had to be so careful with her, after she was booked from 2 pm to midnight, telling me: You wait me. After 2 Fridays, I told her: I stop, even she was the prettiest at this time for me, but I'm not a waiter, I need girls make free for me.[/QUOTE]Well, in my personal opinion, the height of the girls has little correlation with the size of the cocks they could take.

Do you watch BlackedRaw?? Some of the girls there could be considered tiny petite, but she could take giant cocks such as from Jason Luv, Sly Digger, Isiah Maxwell, Jason Brown, etc.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2560961]Don't forget, you needed to come to me at LR, telling me your so pathetic story when I didn't ask You anything, asking me advice for a girl and I advised you your bald French friend here ex risky GF, did she take many towels for bed? Did I ask you any advice? Or on next day at GT? When I did let Lucifer. De free for.[/QUOTE]In English we say choose, not need.

Your reality is so off. Stop stalking me in the shower room at 2 am psycho.

[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2560608]If I remember correctly. In the past, you are positive when PCR cycle thresholds are 40 or less. But what does this mean? If your CT is 10, you are very positive. If your CT is 20, yep you are still positive. If your CT is 28, you are positive. If your CT are 39, I don't know, maybe, I demand a second test, opinion.

Now that they roll out the vaccine. The CDC reduce the CT to 28! Anything over 28 is now negative LOL. Soo we are over counting positive in the past. Now, we want to count it correctly too make the vaccine look good. LOL. You can't make this shit up.[/QUOTE]Spot on, but people are dumb brainwashed sheep who can't even do basic math or logical reasoning.

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2561130]Spot on, but people are dumb brainwashed sheep who can't even do basic math or logical reasoning.[/QUOTE]So true. One year after the start of the pandemic, you still find some jerks to say that Covid-19 has the same mortality rate as flu, when confirmed numbers on the who website (among other reliable sources) tell that it's at least 5 times as deadly.

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2560978]All your posts are irrelevant, boring and full of personal attacks.[/QUOTE]Totally agree here! Except they are hardly full of personal attacks. He is just projecting himself on other people he doesn't like. As a self study more or less. I just giggle each time I read his comments here. Same with BigB, PaulinZurich etc. Although they are just plain dull with zero personality and zero humor. Must be very boring!

Cheers!

Fuck, I am such an intellectual alpha!

ZzzzZzzZzz Mr. Micro, BigB and PaulinZurich are introvert betas.

ZzzZzzZzz.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2561097]In English we say choose, not need.

Your reality is so off. Stop stalking me in the shower room at 2 am psycho.[/QUOTE]So you chose if you didn't need, but you needed to ask advice for a girl, did you forget? When I might laugh so much if really I looked at you under shower, like I often laugh under shower.

I'm going to tell you all a bit of a secret here. I actually have memories from outside the Matrix we are living in. When I was there, before I was sent back in, I was told that the reason so many people had moved into the simulation (s) instead of living on earth was due to a human made virus that had contaminated everything. So we were on a spaceship towards a new planet, or inside the moon. I cannot recall exactly. I seem to recall being told by the supervisor that we were on the way to another planet, and the simulation was here to make us less bored during flight. While also lecturing us on what happened back on earth. Although as the simulation started, it seemed like I was sent from the moon as a ball of light towards the earth. So it was either all just part of the simulation, or some avatar-like technology based inside the moon. (Did it also send me back in time? I don't know).

And lo and behold, part of the Agenda 2030 plan is to also create a Matrix like simulation. Elon Musk is definitely on it, and so is Darpa! At least the first baby steps towards one. Just look at the ERI project, their zenneck surface wave technology and the BCI projects they have ongoing, which they are feeding onto Elon's Neurallink. Now the question is just how much freedom that will give us.

Also, most people we see here are nothing more than non playable characters. But it is impossible to tell the difference between a player and a non-player. Although stupidity might be an indicator. Like Mr. Micro. I mean, nobody would start off playing the game with a micro penis right?

Welcum to the Matrix inside The Matrix!

[QUOTE=Adindas;2561069]Well, in my personal opinion, the height of the girls has little correlation with the size of the cocks they could take.

Do you watch BlackedRaw?? Some of the girls there could be considered tiny petite, but she could take giant cocks such as from Jason Luv, Sly Digger, Isiah Maxwell, Jason Brown, etc.[/QUOTE]Don't you know porn is not real sex, but just a show. When I m more impressed by tall girls with long legs, but really don't mean long vagina. But same for guys.

Read:

[URL]https://singularityhub.com/2019/06/05/darpas-new-project-is-investing-millions-in-brain-machine-interface-tech/[/URL]

So when you see Jesus returning in 2033, you've most likely just been hacked!

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2561169]So you chose if you didn't need, but you needed to ask advice for a girl, did you forget? When I might laugh so much if really I looked at you under shower, like I often laugh under shower.[/QUOTE]Art of social interaction escapes you. When someone asks for your opinion and recommendation you perceive it as a need. How detached from normal social interaction you must be. 50+ years on this earth and you still haven't figured it out. That is the really pathetic part.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2561152]Totally agree here! Except they are hardly full of personal attacks. He is just projecting himself on other people he doesn't like. As a self study more or less. I just giggle each time I read his comments here. Same with BigB, PaulinZurich etc. Although they are just plain dull with zero personality and zero humor. Must be very boring!

Cheers![/QUOTE]And here you are, basically agreeing with a bot with Tourette's.

Your only value has ever been to be an [B]FKK downtime filler[/B] during the middle of the week when lineups were weaker and other mongers were working. Once the weekends came or another international monger arrived, you no longer had any use. In fact, you became an [B]embarrassing, socially awkward liability[/B], only offering negative value to social situations. You have tried to befriend several FKK mongers and [B]every single one has preferred to sever personal communications with you.[/B].

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2561130]Spot on, but people are dumb brainwashed sheep who can't even do basic math or logical reasoning.[/QUOTE]BTW in the past there was only one category. Covid death. Now that we have the vaccine, some of the expert are talking in term of "death of covid" and death with covid. I'm waiting to see when they will make these two category official.

When they do, death of covid will drop like a rock.

[QUOTE=Adindas;2561069]Well, in my personal opinion, the height of the girls has little correlation with the size of the cocks they could take.

Do you watch BlackedRaw?? Some of the girls there could be considered tiny petite, but she could take giant cocks such as from Jason Luv, Sly Digger, Isiah Maxwell, Jason Brown, etc.[/QUOTE]I'm a bit skeptical. These small porn girls may very well be the exception to a more general rule. On my last rooms, I try to go for smaller girls thinking a tighter vag may make it easier to finish. Tony Estra / Astra with the great tits but terrible teeth at Sharks became my go to late night girl. It always seem to work out for me but that may be because she is so small, it was easier to throw her around and fuck her aggressively.

[QUOTE=Downandup;2560975]That won't happen for a long time. The EU has agreed to allow visitors back from counties on a safe list with low cases but the final decision will include a requirement that visitors are fully vaccinated.[/QUOTE]Maybe sooner than you think. France is letting Americans in on June 9th without vaccination or quarantine if a negative covid tests is provided. Greece and Iceland open up next week.

[URL]https://www.travelandleisure.com/travel-news/france-reopening-allowing-american-tourists-june[/URL]

Italy has already already opened up to unvaccinated Americans if they arrive on a Delta / Alitalia flight. Delta will add daily flights next week from Atlanta / NYC to Rome / Milan.

[URL]https://www.forbes.com/sites/lauriewerner/2021/05/15/italy-reopens-to-us-travelers-if-they-fly-delta/?sh=65024f217590[/URL]

Some FKKs have already opened in Austria, Switzerland, and Netherlands. One poster reported that a small German club is already open.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2512650]Yes, we are likely going to have a long winter with late March / April looking to show the first signs of normalcy. I wouldn't make any international travel plans before May, June to be safe.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=HammerTime96;2542153]The stupidity and the total lack of 'science,' is mindblowing, and that's why there will most probably NOT be any FKK openings in 2021, despite of Mursenary's 'science,' lies and gaslighting. Don't forget to update your "time capsule" for a June 1st. August 1st opening of FKK clubs Mursenary![/QUOTE]Don't think I've forgotten. Your tears of defeat tastes sweet.

You know, if you actually took the time to approach the topic with an objective mind, you would have picked up that I actually favored a lighter approach to restrictions than you insinuate.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2560988]Let's ban all the weirdos who check other dude's dicks under the showers.

I think they're on the wrong forum.[/QUOTE]Honestly, if I ever see them again, I'd take my robe off and swing it around like a helicopter so they can take a good look.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2561175]Don't you know porn is not real sex, but just a show. When I m more impressed by tall girls with long legs, but really don't mean long vagina. But same for guys.[/QUOTE]

It might not be sex as usual as they are acting. But the penetration is not unreal. So, the size of vaginas and cocks are matter. From the previous discussion, it is about the height of the girls and the size of vaginas.

But I also more attracted to girls with decent height (e.g 165 cm+) with proportional body mass, especially if they are blond, and with blue eyes. Taller girl will look more attractive and sexier when they start opening their legs.

From the previous discussion, it is about the height of the girls and the size of vaginas.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2561173]I'm going to tell you all a bit of a secret here. I actually have memories from outside the Matrix we are living in. When I was there, before I was sent back in, I was told that the reason so many people had moved into the simulation (s) instead of living on earth was due to a human made virus that had contaminated everything. So we were on a spaceship towards a new planet, or inside the moon. I cannot recall exactly. I seem to recall being told by the supervisor that we were on the way to another planet, and the simulation was here to make us less bored during flight. While also lecturing us on what happened back on earth. Although as the simulation started, it seemed like I was sent from the moon as a ball of light towards the earth. So it was either all just part of the simulation, or some avatar-like technology based inside the moon. (Did it also send me back in time? I don't know).

And lo and behold, part of the Agenda 2030 plan is to also create a Matrix like simulation. Elon Musk is definitely on it, and so is Darpa! At least the first baby steps towards one. Just look at the ERI project, their zenneck surface wave technology and the BCI projects they have ongoing, which they are feeding onto Elon's Neurallink. Now the question is just how much freedom that will give us.

Also, most people we see here are nothing more than non playable characters. But it is impossible to tell the difference between a player and a non-player. Although stupidity might be an indicator. Like Mr. Micro. I mean, nobody would start off playing the game with a micro penis right?

Welcum to the Matrix inside The Matrix![/QUOTE]Wooow, the Matrix inside the Matrix. Impressive this is a very high level of conspiracy theory defining a new world order. Unfortunately, I do not have sufficient knowledge to judge or to argue against this theory. To me it looks like science fiction I have watched in the movies.

I prefer to keep enjoying having fun with the stunners, good looking girls in the FKKs or anywehre in the world as many as I can until the sky fall.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2561173]I'm going to tell you all a bit of a secret here. I actually have memories from outside the Matrix we are living in. When I was there, before I was sent back in, I was told that the reason so many people had moved into the simulation (s) instead of living on earth was due to a human made virus that had contaminated everything. So we were on a spaceship towards a new planet, or inside the moon. I cannot recall exactly. I seem to recall being told by the supervisor that we were on the way to another planet, and the simulation was here to make us less bored during flight. While also lecturing us on what happened back on earth. Although as the simulation started, it seemed like I was sent from the moon as a ball of light towards the earth. So it was either all just part of the simulation, or some avatar-like technology based inside the moon. (Did it also send me back in time? I don't know).

And lo and behold, part of the Agenda 2030 plan is to also create a Matrix like simulation. Elon Musk is definitely on it, and so is Darpa! At least the first baby steps towards one. Just look at the ERI project, their zenneck surface wave technology and the BCI projects they have ongoing, which they are feeding onto Elon's Neurallink. Now the question is just how much freedom that will give us.

Also, most people we see here are nothing more than non playable characters. But it is impossible to tell the difference between a player and a non-player. Although stupidity might be an indicator. Like Mr. Micro. I mean, nobody would start off playing the game with a micro penis right?

Welcum to the Matrix inside The Matrix![/QUOTE]

Wooow, the Matrix inside the Matrix. Impressive this is a very high level of conspiracy theory defining a new world order. Unfortunately, I do not have sufficient knowledge, neither do I have time to analyse about this new world order, to judge or to argue against this theory. I do not get paid to anyalise this conspiracy theory either. To me it looks more like an enjoyment to wacth science fiction that I have watched in the movies.

I prefer to keep enjoying having fun with the stunners, good looking girls in the FKKs or anywhere in the world as many as I can until the sky fall.

1 - Winners don't use drugs.

2 - stay away from weirdos.

[QUOTE=Adindas;2561292]Wooow, the Matrix inside the Matrix. Impressive this is a very high level of conspiracy theory defining a new world order. Unfortunately, I do not have sufficient knowledge, neither do I have time to analyse about this new world order, to judge or to argue against this theory. I do not get paid to anyalise this conspiracy theory either. To me it looks more like an enjoyment to wacth science fiction that I have watched in the movies.

I prefer to keep enjoying having fun with the stunners, good looking girls in the FKKs or anywhere in the world as many as I can until the sky fall.[/QUOTE]Maybe you have heard of transhumanism, and the transhuman agenda? Well that is just a small tidbit of the real story which I brought you here.

Ray Kurzweil is one of the visionaries. He is now leading Google innovation department. And Elon Musk is deep into it as well.

You can even look at these yearly predictions Ray Kurzweil has done in order to see how the agenda will enfold. Because all he is talking about is basically already done, waiting for release. He doesn't mention the zenneck waves (stoles from Nicola Tesla) and a few other things though. Because of how that means free electricity and anti gravity. But in not too long we will have technology on molecular level with things like foglets for example. Meaning it will be possible to create any structure we want just using thought, with a brain machine interface. So we will be like God's. Just imagine such power. Basically there will have to be new laws implemented. And moving into different virtual worlds will be the solution. Either will the sheep's be told about it, or they will just be hacked into it. Computer power will be vastly more powerful than today given the electronic resurgence initiative and computer chips using carbon nanotubes, or even quantum effects for faster access to memory. Plus we can always use chips that are vastly larger than the small ones being used today. Think billions of times faster compute structured as a brain, in order to enhance AI abilities. And this can be done in just 10 years if not for economic incentives to hold it back and slowly release it, such as Moores Law basically is.

It doesn't have to be a conspiracy unless people are being brought behind the light though. And given all the information is out there, no one really is. You just have to know where to look and what to look at. And the policies regarding transhumanism is just natural evolution of politics as technology advances.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2561296]1 - Winners don't use drugs.

2 - stay away from weirdos.[/QUOTE]Well, mostly true but some caveats and counter examples.

1 a. Weed has only been considered an illicit within the past 100 years. Furthermore, that trend started in Anglo / Euro countries because it was a substance often used by third-world populations. In the USA, there was a cultural bias element. Previously, we used the term cannabis or even hemp. In legal verbiage, political activists purposefully code switched to the word "marijuana" in oder to attach it to the Mexican population. In England, the British colonies started regulating way before England itself. British colonies in India and Southeast Asia had the same views toward weed and indigenous populations as Americans had for Mexicans. The rest of the world followed suit in the 20th century as American-British culture began its dominance. The history of weed being a criminalized substance has been too much determined by cultural attitudes than actual science.

1_b. Other drugs are and have always been used by the elite class for years if you are to consider them winners. Stimulants are used more by successful people than the poor class. Opium was the drug of the kings. Weed was used by the royal families of Europe to treat pain. Western elite military forces and the US Air Force have been using stimulants such as amphetamines and modafinil for over half a century to perform at their peaks mentally and physically. Japanese and German WWII pilots used to use methamphetamines for focus and alertness.

And my favorite: Arnold Schwarzenegger, American's greatest Immigrant, used the hell out of steroids and weed to rise to fitness-entertainment and eventually political fame.

*Bonus: porn would not be what it is today if porn actors didn't use the hell out of Viagra.

**Digression: I would love to see a worldwide Olympics where non-mechanical performance enhancers are allowed. Let's push and see what the human body can really do.

2. I know, bad habit. The weird immigrant child in me does have some sympathy for the social outsiders of the world. The difference between the people I have affection for and these weirdos here is that these guys profess self grandeur rather than aim for self-improvement.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2561318]Maybe you have heard of transhumanism, and the transhuman agenda? Well that is just a small tidbit of the real story which I brought you here.[/QUOTE]All of this talk about transhumanism is incongruent with the author's disdain for current pharmaceutical technology. He believes in the future advancement of human capabilities but shuns the current advancements that will help get us there. Medicine, vaccines, and nootropic drugs are just the beginning of performance enhancement but instead of embracing those things, he opts for "natural" remedies that are much less effective. Ray Kurzweil himself takes over 100 pills per day, not just natural supplements buy also common diabetic and cholesterol medications, not to mention a few nootropic drugs. There are obviously potential harmful effects that must be managed and improved upon but the same will have to be done with AI technology as the field progresses. Yet the poster expresses zero apprehension it its advancement. We are much closer to Terminator 2 Skynet than we are to unlocking the science behind quantum physics and quantum biology yet his concerns are more focused on the latter.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2561319]Computer power will be vastly more powerful than today given the electronic resurgence initiative and computer chips using carbon nanotubes, or even quantum effects for faster access to memory. Plus we can always use chips that are vastly larger than the small ones being used today. Think billions of times faster compute structured as a brain, in order to enhance AI abilities. And this can be done in just 10 years if not for economic incentives to hold it back and slowly release it, such as Moores Law basically is.[/QUOTE]Computing power is just obstacle. Data scarcity, especially the collection and implementation of good unbias data poses an equal challenge.

Sentiency may be the biggest obstacle with no solution in sight as we don't even have a rudimentary understanding of it. As such, AI's potential is limited by the fact that AI will remain a machine subject to the bias of the creator. Even with all the data and computing power in the galaxy, it must be programmed by a human or a machine / algorithm developed by humans. As such, it's potential is limited by the boundaries of human imagination. That is a process that cannot be shortcutted. True AI in our lifetime remains a huge question mark unless we unlock the mystery of what sentiency really is. Human sentiency is currently restricted to our own primary motivation: the need to procreate our race. As such, the highest level of AI will be limited by our primary mission: survival and preservation.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2561318]Maybe you have heard of transhumanism, and the transhuman agenda? Well that is just a small tidbit of the real story which I brought you here.[/QUOTE]

Transhuman agenda !! Ehmm interesting

https://www.forbes.com/sites/sarwantsingh/2017/11/20/transhumanism-and-the-future-of-humanity-seven-ways-the-world-will-change-by-2030/?sh=31075f157d79

But why would anyone here wants to care about Transhuman agenda?. Scientists, futurists create this fantasy, sci-fi, let them argue among themselves, let them solve the problem that they themselves have created. I believe punters will care more about the availability of quality puss1es at a more affordable price. They will try as many as they can until they drop.

[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2561219]BTW in the past there was only one category. Covid death. Now that we have the vaccine, some of the expert are talking in term of "death of covid" and death with covid. I'm waiting to see when they will make these two category official.

When they do, death of covid will drop like a rock.[/QUOTE]Some lies and conspiracy theories never die. Comorbidities have always been recorded, at least by the CDC in the US. Speaking of rocks, if someone is walking down the sidewalk with high blood pressure and COPD and perhaps five to ten years left to live, and a rock falls on their head and takes them out, it's the rock that killed them, not the comorbidities. The overwhelmed hospital systems throughout the world during the pandemic refutes your sort of moronic thinking. The good news is this, word is that Trump will resume his "rallies" this summer. Perhaps you can find a way to attend some. Wink.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2561204]Art of social interaction escapes you. When someone asks for your opinion and recommendation you perceive it as a need. How detached from normal social interaction you must be. 50+ years on this earth and you still haven't figured it out. That is the really pathetic part.[/QUOTE]No need for me in brothels, where I trust only my eyes and mind. In France, we say: better to be single than bad companionship. I don't find guys so interesting, even in real life. I find much more interesting women, even without sex, I much prefer to speak with them, they are more clever for me in real life.

[QUOTE=Adindas;2561394]Transhuman agenda !! Ehmm interesting

https://www.forbes.com/sites/sarwantsingh/2017/11/20/transhumanism-and-the-future-of-humanity-seven-ways-the-world-will-change-by-2030/?sh=31075f157d79

But why would anyone here wants to care about Transhuman agenda?. Scientists, futurists create this fantasy, sci-fi, let them argue among themselves, let them solve the problem that they themselves have created. I believe punters will care more about the availability of quality puss1es at a more affordable price. They will try as many as they can until they drop.[/QUOTE]While I Believe that the original poster has self-serving interest in discussing this topic, the topic of trans humanism is not science fiction. The main idea is advancing the human condition. Things like prolonging life and enhancing cognitive ability are very real. The OP speaks in abstracts with technical word vomit, but the we are already living in the early stages of transhumanism. Nootropic drugs that enhance our mood and cognitive ability are already in use in the form of antidepressants, antianxiolytics, stimulants, and drugs that combat Neurodegenerative disease of old age such as Alzheimers, Huntingtons, and Parkinsons disease. The future of technology such as augmented reality, enhanced eye and ear implants with super human capabilities are already in development. The final stage that you refer to as science fiction involves eternal life and uploading consciousness. They are far out, but are certainly feasible endeavors that can be achieved.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2561403]No need for me in brothels, where I trust only my eyes and mind. In France, we say: better to be single than bad companionship. I don't find guys so interesting, even in real life. I find much more interesting women, even without sex, I much prefer to speak with them, they are more clever for me in real life.[/QUOTE]I'll tell you like it is. You're too simple for me. Our conversations have no value. Goodbye.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2560384]Butt kissers? Fealty? Seems like hyperbole. I really do not care who takes my side or is against me, personal connections other posters might have to each other on a sex forum. Pedantic, boring? That seems fair. Debates that go back and forth, that is history to me. I enjoy your analysis and you bring up solid points, and you never struck me as hateful towards any one group. I haven't been fully following the back and forth between you and Mursenary.[/QUOTE]Actually, I shouldn't have dragged you into my "argument" (if I can call it that) with the Murse. You have been a victim of the crossfire. Sorry about that.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2560192]Ok Boomer. So sensitive. What's the word they use? Snowflake is it. ? I'm definitely not woke, just capable of seeing bullshit. Women and gay people are capable humans just as valuable to society as straight men. But they can also be cunts and fags.

Okay Dad Bod. Have anymore Harry Potter dementor references? My biggest accomplish is just being a decent human being. Might have pulled a few people from the grasps of death and illness in a my life, took care of some Hondurans and Haitians without access to healthcare, but whatev. You continue being a slave to your senior partner. How does his asshole taste BTW? Make sure you clean his taint and chode thoroughly.

Yes! Slept in the back of a minivan last night on the beach in Saint Pete en route to Pensacola. Was great! Awesome that you are filthy rich! But are you oblivious to how much of a douche you sound with that statement? I have enough put away and investing and command a high enough bill rate to live my nice comfortable, modest life. Good enough for me!.[/QUOTE]In what universe are you classified as a good human being? In the middle of Asian gangs? I did not say you are woke; my teen aged nephew seems totally woke. You pose around as a woke millennial but underneath that fake veneer, you are bubbling with hatred towards women, gays, sometimes other ethnicities, and god knows who else.

Too bad you couldn't finish at GTech. Some more time at that school could have done you some good.

You are stuck in some medieval period. Perhaps you fancy yourself as some kungfu master in one of those Zhang Zhimou flying dragon flicks, with your adonis svelte body and shining sword or whatever the heck they fight with (BTW, I don't have any muscles but I am also very skinny, so your dad bod insults are a little off target). In today's world, the only scorecard is money. Every other skill you home and acquire is to run up that score. The ones who truly make it know they will never consume any of it. The pleasure is in running up that score card. You can't run up the score in other games, they have a forced end, but not this one. And yes, I admire my senior partner and anyone else who made it working hard and honest. Why not? Anyway, the truly great ones make billions and donate billions.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2560167]In 9 out of 10 quarters, they get beaten by average index funds. Meaning lousy work. There is no excuse. Just 60% is stocks by the way. A robot also doesn't care how much money it is.[/QUOTE]I think you missed the point. The decision to allocate x percent to sovereign debt, why to corporate, z to US stocks, z1 to them stocks etc is made by people much higher up in the hierarchy, namely political appointees. The well being of that fund impacts all of Norway and they don't leave that decision to some MBA from the US. The average PM just manages a small amount (in their case, even small amounts to one or two billion) and s / he may well beat his bogey handily but the allocation decision has a much bigger bearing on the total returns of the fund. But if you want to curse the PMs, go ahead but their feelings will not be hurt.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2561437]In what universe are you classified as a good human being?.[/QUOTE]In the universe of "in sickness and in health." The universe where loyalty is a virtue. Boom. Debate over. Monger on Monger.

Game. Set. Match.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2561437]I did not say you are woke; my teen aged nephew seems totally woke. You pose around as a woke millennial but underneath that fake veneer, you are bubbling with hatred towards women, gays, sometimes other ethnicities, and god knows who else.[/QUOTE](You should have stayed an engineer instead of selling out).

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2560140]You pretend to be a woke idiot but you are just an idiot, period.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Pessimist;2559377]3. You pose around as a woke obsessed millennial but you are brimming to the edge w / a lot of internal hate which bubbles up every once in a while w / your age / sex / race based insults. If you had used your Karens and boomer epithets in any real conversation, you would be shunned and your ass will get fired if you had done that at any work related gatherings. And your anti White agenda is very transparent.

You are like a blood sucking leech that won't go away. I need better self control to ignore you more effectively.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Pessimist;2552651] And for someone who lectures profusely about race and other woke ideas, you exhibit a generous amount of ageism.[/QUOTE]P.S. I am okay with not being the smartest guy in the room. Question is, are you?

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2561437]In today's world, the only scorecard is money. Every other skill you home and acquire is to run up that score. The ones who truly make it know they will never consume any of it. The pleasure is in running up that score card. You can't run up the score in other games, they have a forced end, but not this one. And yes, I admire my senior partner and anyone else who made it working hard and honest. Why not? Anyway, the truly great ones make billions and donate billions.[/QUOTE]1. I mostly agree.

2. But, human value is also important. Other skills can help humankind.

3. Infidelity is a good measure of character or lack thereof.

A man is only as good as his word. For better or worse. In sickness and in health.

Boom. Sit down.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2561423]I'll tell you like it is. You're too simple for me. Our conversations have no value. Goodbye.[/QUOTE]Wait for some steamy chit-chat under the showers!

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2561423]I'll tell you like it is. You're too simple for me. Our conversations have no value. Goodbye.[/QUOTE]And be fully 100% sure, I don't need guys on your level with girls, just playing for pathetic level with not even top beauties nor really exclusive, I rank you on your claimed story you needed to tell, or chose if You prefer when I didn't ask You anything, level. This only for brothels and girls of course, when I really wish You to be higher level in your real life. When I look for a bit of my past life, but I think many guys play their dark side in brothels, when they are frustrated with women, even wife, in real life, when from my childhood, I can only love women and elegance and I think girls feel my love for women very fast, but I never told any WG, not even asking to meet outside but always avoided, even sometimes a bit complicated, trying not to kill room mood. You control all as say some girls. Just not my image for a girlfriend.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2561434]Actually, I shouldn't have dragged you into my "argument" (if I can call it that) with the Murse. You have been a victim of the crossfire. Sorry about that.[/QUOTE]You got emotional and failed to think logically, again. Your employees must hate working for you.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2561434]Actually, I shouldn't have dragged you into my "argument" (if I can call it that) with the Murse. You have been a victim of the crossfire. Sorry about that.[/QUOTE]The last time I injected myself between you and Murse was the "immigrant being able to more easily save" debate. Mursenary posted the savings rates of countries (government, business, households), but since the debate was centered within the context of culture, I posted that the household savings rates was more relevant. Chinese households save the most, and they immigrate to every corner of the globe bringing those habits with them. While culture plays a part, I would argue that recent history (political and economic uncertainty and instability) play a bigger part. It is estimated that in the the early 1950's, 30 million people starved to death in China. If you have a 3-4 generations, where nobody in the family has faced uncertainty or economic hardship, that "savings reflex" diminishes. Case in point some Chinese students in Iowa:

[QUOTE]Lin said that while American students might view luxury cars as an expensive folly, Chinese students see them as the bargain of a lifetime.

“What if I told you that if you moved abroad you could buy a Ferrari for half or even a third of the price back home? What would you do?” he asked. “You’d buy that Ferrari because it’s a huge discount and a once in a lifetime chance to experience a car you might never afford otherwise.”

Exorbitant taxes on luxury goods in mainland China can mean that a Ferrari 458 that retails for $290,000 in Boston costs more than $700,000 in Beijing. Consequently, some Chinese students in the so-called “rich second generation” look at their four-year American college experience as the time to try out a dream car, buy designer clothing and live out a discounted version of the luxury lifestyle.

Lin, who graduated from Ohio’s Miami University in 2012, views the Chinese students in America right now as The Generation of Great Gatsby. “We’re acting out an American history that was happening 100 years ago,” he explained. “A lot of people in China are making new money so they want to buy luxury things, luxury clothes, luxury foods, luxury cars. They want to try all the new things.”[/QUOTE]Murse and I do not always agree. I believe my stance was unique to both of yours. Maybe even closer to your side. I guess this was a less loaded topic though. Or my memory is too selective.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2561296]1 - Winners don't use drugs.[/QUOTE]Many musicians use drugs to tap into creativity. Money, fame, youth, talent, access to beautiful women, good looks, so winners in almost every sense of the word.

Men on the higher spectrum of IQ also seem to dabble: Steve Jobs (LSD, marijuana) and Bill Gates (LSD only once).

[QUOTE]With respect to his drug use, Jobs explained that he used LSD from 1972 through 1974.

"Throughout that period of time I used the LSD approximately ten to fifteen times," Jobs said. "I would ingest the LSD on a sugar cube or in a hard form of gelatin. I would usually take the LSD when I was by myself. I have no words to explain the effect the LSD had on me, although, I can say it was a positive life changing experience for me and I am glad I went through that experience.”

Explaining the impetus behind his marijuana usage, Jobs said that it helped him relax and made him more creative.

All told, Jobs said that he used drugs anywhere from once a week to once a month during that time period.

https://www.networkworld.com/article/2222575/data-center-steve-jobs-lsd-habit-why-he-indulged-in-marijuana-and-his-1975-arrest.html[/QUOTE]There is a difference between recreational use and addiction.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2561540]Many musicians use drugs to tap into creativity. Money, fame, youth, talent, access to beautiful women, good looks, so winners in almost every sense of the word.
Men on the higher spectrum of IQ also seem to dabble: Steve Jobs (LSD, marijuana) and Bill Gates (LSD only once).[/QUOTE][URL]https://youtu.be/hhrfrhc98Ro[/URL]

[QUOTE] There is a difference between recreational use and addiction.[/QUOTE]Ah yes, just like with prostitution. I can see severe addicts here (often serial posters) with a totally fucked up brain.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2561537]The last time I injected myself between you and Murse was the "immigrant being able to more easily save" debate. Mursenary posted the savings rates of countries (government, business, households), but since the debate was centered within the context of culture, I posted that the household savings rates was more relevant. Chinese households save the most, and they immigrate to every corner of the globe bringing those habits with them. While culture plays a part, I would argue that recent history (political and economic uncertainty and instability) play a bigger part. It is estimated that in the the early 1950's, 30 million people starved to death in China. If you have a 3-4 generations, where nobody in the family has faced uncertainty or economic hardship, that "savings reflex" diminishes. Case in point some Chinese students in Iowa:

Murse and I do not always agree. I believe my stance was unique to both of yours. Maybe even closer to your side. I guess this was a less loaded topic though. Or my memory is too selective.[/QUOTE]Well, regardless, it was a lousy thing on my part to have trashed you for no reason whatsoever; not one of my proud moments. Internet forums never bring out the best in me, and I keep proving it to myself again and again.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2561587][URL]https://youtu.be/hhrfrhc98Ro[/URL]

Ah yes, just like with prostitution. I can see severe addicts here (often serial posters) with a totally fucked up brain.[/QUOTE]You must addicted considering the number of posts you have on here.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2561423]I'll tell you like it is. You're too simple for me. Our conversations have no value. Goodbye.[/QUOTE]You make Sirioja seem rather smart, funny, mature and humble.

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2561649]You make Sirioja seem rather smart, funny, mature and humble.[/QUOTE]Sirioja seems quite unique. I skip most of his writings. To me, he is like a one man show doing both sides of Abbott and Costello's who is on first. Is he humble? Well, he has points of pride I guess but if you let him be, he will ignore you as well and go on with his endless whatever he wants to write about. It is easy to steer clear of him. When I first ran into his posts a couple of years ago, they appeared confusing, amusing, bizarre, and mildly funny all at once. But one or two posts are a good enough sample to understand his "views". I bet if you read his comments from 5 years ago, they would have read the same. That said, I forget most of the posters' names here unless I get into a prolonged fight w / them but Siri's name is one that stays in mind even if I had never got into any trouble with him.

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2561649]You make Sirioja seem rather smart, funny, mature and humble.[/QUOTE]Bror,

Read in one of the tabloids that some assyrian crime lord called himself Shoobree. What does it mean in your language? I'm Swedish so I don't keep track of the turk slang so I'd thought I'd ask you.

I guess it's not you but just your idol. Right?

[QUOTE=Ararat;2561689]Bror,

Read in one of the tabloids that some assyrian crime lord called himself Shoobree. What does it mean in your language? I'm Swedish so I don't keep track of the turk slang so I'd thought I'd ask you.

I guess it's not you but just your idol. Right?[/QUOTE]I feel sorry for you, you're obviously a mentally ill loser.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2561528]You got emotional and failed to think logically, again. Your employees must hate working for you.[/QUOTE]That's assuming he has any employees, that his wife is a doctor, etc. Etc. We have a guy named Canada on the American politics thread that claims to be a high roller CEO and to have started many successful companies. But this almost surely isn't so as he spends all his days and evenings reciting the same talking points over and over here in ISG. That leaves little time for the grand ventures that he alleges, plus anyone who values their time and sees it as money wouldn't spend it that way. Not to mention that his spelling is often atrocious. At the end of the day about all we know about anyone here is that they pay for sex. Other than that we are reliant on what they tell us about themselves which is often worthy of a big grain of salt. If you are looking for the rich, and otherwise very important and successful people, look no further than a mongering venue or the seedy bars surrounding such. Just find a stool, say Hello, to the guy sitting next to you and he'll be glad to tell you all about it. Wink.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2561489]And be fully 100% sure, I don't need guys on your level with girls, just playing for pathetic level with not even top beauties nor really exclusive, I rank you on your claimed story you needed to tell, or chose if You prefer when I didn't ask You anything, level. This only for brothels and girls of course, when I really wish You to be higher level in your real life. When I look for a bit of my past life, but I think many guys play their dark side in brothels, when they are frustrated with women, even wife, in real life, when from my childhood, I can only love women and elegance and I think girls feel my love for women very fast, but I never told any WG, not even asking to meet outside but always avoided, even sometimes a bit complicated, trying not to kill room mood. You control all as say some girls. Just not my image for a girlfriend.[/QUOTE]Is there a correlation with men who do not have male friends and prolonged breastfeeding from mother's teat? She stopped breastfeeding when you were what, 15?

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2561486]Wait for some steamy chit-chat under the showers![/QUOTE]"Erotic Shower Confessions of a Leprechaun".

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2561537]While culture plays a part, I would argue that recent history (political and economic uncertainty and instability) play a bigger part. It is estimated that in the the early 1950's, 30 million people starved to death in China. If you have a 3-4 generations, where nobody in the family has faced uncertainty or economic hardship, that "savings reflex" diminishes. Case in point some Chinese students in Iowa:.[/QUOTE]It would be prudent to say that political and economic history is intertwined with culture.

The anecdote about the Chinese student spending lavishly is a fair one in which I can relate. I was pretty financially reckless in my 20's but have since made up for that. But we these are examples of immigrants who have secure occupations and education. We seem to be focusing on the "Crazy Rich Asians" demographic or at least the financially above average ones who try to emulate that life. What about the blue collar immigrants and those of other nationalities and ethnicities outside of East Asia? Would your university student example apply to the grocery store / gas station owner types? Would it apply to Indians and West Africans?

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2561716]Is there a correlation with men who do not have male friends and prolonged breastfeeding from mother's teat? She stopped breastfeeding when you were what, 15?[/QUOTE]With a so exceptional mother, you can only love women. Enjoy with your friends here and in brothels, when you didn't understand from your experience in brothels.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2561698]That's assuming he has any employees, that his wife is a doctor, etc. Etc. We have a guy named Canada on the American politics thread that claims to be a high roller CEO and to have started many successful companies. But this almost surely isn't so as he spends all his days and evenings reciting the same talking points over and over here in ISG. That leaves little time for the grand ventures that he alleges, plus anyone who values their time and sees it as money wouldn't spend it that way. Not to mention that his spelling is often atrocious. At the end of the day about all we know about anyone here is that they pay for sex. Other than that we are reliant on what they tell us about themselves which is often worthy of a big grain of salt. If you are looking for the rich, and otherwise very important and successful people, look no further than a mongering venue or the seedy bars surrounding such. Just find a stool, say Hello, to the guy sitting next to you and he'll be glad to tell you all about it. Wink.[/QUOTE]Yeah, that Canada guy is very Shoo-ish but with a larger lexicon. But he might be telling the truth. I used to have a side hustle in internet marketing and named myself the CEO of my own 1-man company. The average internet marketing guy I met were not exactly the sharpest tools either, but many were "CEOs" also.

I actually think that Pessimist is a white collar professional. I give him a hard time because I think he's a tool with a narrow life experience who can't bare the thought of not being the smartest guy in the room; but he's not completely disconnected from society like many of these other guys.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2561540]Many musicians use drugs to tap into creativity. Money, fame, youth, talent, access to beautiful women, good looks, so winners in almost every sense of the word.

Men on the higher spectrum of IQ also seem to dabble: Steve Jobs (LSD, marijuana) and Bill Gates (LSD only once).

There is a difference between recreational use and addiction.[/QUOTE]In some ZH clubs, cocaine which is cheap there, is for free for girls, maybe to help them to compete for Nobel award. I remember one reporting Linda. De at Globe was ballet dancer, but not really around the pole on few times she danced. I was proposed drugs only twice by girls, both German at Bruggen on Summer 2016. But my only drug is adrenaline I look for in my sports or on German autobahns. Look forward going to test and improve new engine, or maybe to push a Mustang Shelby I was proposed to try, even not really sporty, but what engine noise, best music.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2561698]That's assuming he has any employees, that his wife is a doctor, etc. Etc. We have a guy named Canada on the American politics thread that claims to be a high roller CEO and to have started many successful companies. But this almost surely isn't so as he spends all his days and evenings reciting the same talking points over and over here in ISG. That leaves little time for the grand ventures that he alleges, plus anyone who values their time and sees it as money wouldn't spend it that way. Not to mention that his spelling is often atrocious. At the end of the day about all we know about anyone here is that they pay for sex. Other than that we are reliant on what they tell us about themselves which is often worthy of a big grain of salt. If you are looking for the rich, and otherwise very important and successful people, look no further than a mongering venue or the seedy bars surrounding such. Just find a stool, say Hello, to the guy sitting next to you and he'll be glad to tell you all about it. Wink.[/QUOTE]We all know that you're a pathetic old fart and Nursenary is an unemployed troll. I doubt that any of you have ever mongered anywhere.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2561728]It would be prudent to say that political and economic history is intertwined with culture.

The anecdote about the Chinese student spending lavishly is a fair one in which I can relate. I was pretty financially reckless in my 20's but have since made up for that. But we these are examples of immigrants who have secure occupations and education. We seem to be focusing on the "Crazy Rich Asians" demographic or at least the financially above average ones who try to emulate that life. What about the blue collar immigrants and those of other nationalities and ethnicities outside of East Asia? Would your university student example apply to the grocery store / gas station owner types? Would it apply to Indians and West Africans?[/QUOTE]The CRA demographic is an extreme example, but it seems the average Chinese millennial is also losing the savings reflex compared to past generations. The money that their parents saved is allowing Chinese millennials to have some financial cushion, which would provide them with more disposable income than their salary would suggest. It also seems common for Chinese parents (even on a taxi driver salary) to buy their children a home. This is due to their parents' legendary saving habits. And in part due to the one-child policy, that allowed financial resources to flow to a single offspring. P2 P lending also seems to be fueling new spending habits for the younger generation.

[QUOTE]While mortgages are the lion’s share of household debt, credit card and consumer loans have shot up from just 4.6 percent of household debt in 2015 to 16 percent now, BMI Research shows.

“The young generation today has a totally different attitude to my generation,” said Ma’s grandmother, Wei Chunyin, 76. She grew up in the 1960s and said she was in debt just once - for 100 yuan, the equivalent today of $14.50.

“We were very economical and hardworking,” she said. “Clothing was just to wear, and we wouldn’t even really eat snacks, just food from our unit,” she said, referring to her workplace.

Ma’s generation is the first in China’s modern history to be raised in relative prosperity and social stability.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-debt-millennials-idUSKBN14015H[/QUOTE][QUOTE]While young people around the world are struggling to get on the property ladder, an HSBC study found that 70% of Chinese millennials have achieved the milestone.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-39512599[/QUOTE][QUOTE]Chinese regulators attempting to rein in Ant Group Co. and a swelling online-lending industry have a target in their sights: the excessive, debt-fueled lifestyles of the country’s youth.

Many used short-term loans to pay for expenses such as prestige cosmetics, electronic gadgets and costly restaurant meals. They found credit easy to obtain, thanks to Ant and other Chinese financial-technology companies that provided unsecured loans to millions of people who didn’t have bank-issued credit cards.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/chinas-youthful-debt-fueled-spending-spree-sparks-a-reckoning-11615631400[/QUOTE]RE: Nigerians and Indians. I emphasize the Chinese story here, because they are the worlds best savers. And if the younger generation can undergo such a drastic change in spending habits, then it could happen anywhere. Immigrant savings habits are forged in great part due to the economic conditions back home, and much of that is dependent on what decade they were born in, and what year they left their home country. If each successive generation of Nigerians and Indians get more "spoiled" like the Chinese have, their savings reflex will also diminish. You said yourself, you are frugal, but nowhere near as frugal as your mother.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2561438]I think you missed the point. The decision to allocate x percent to sovereign debt, why to corporate, z to US stocks, z1 to them stocks etc is made by people much higher up in the hierarchy, namely political appointees. The well being of that fund impacts all of Norway and they don't leave that decision to some MBA from the US. The average PM just manages a small amount (in their case, even small amounts to one or two billion) and s / he may well beat his bogey handily but the allocation decision has a much bigger bearing on the total returns of the fund. But if you want to curse the PMs, go ahead but their feelings will not be hurt.[/QUOTE]Sure thing. And I agree on all of that. But it just also depends on how advanced the trading robots are.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2561384]. As such, it's potential is limited by the boundaries of human imagination. That is a process that cannot be shortcutted. True AI in our lifetime remains a huge question mark unless we unlock the mystery of what sentiency really is. Human sentiency is currently restricted to our own primary motivation: the need to procreate our race. As such, the highest level of AI will be limited by our primary mission: survival and preservation.[/QUOTE]I am not so sure it has to be sentient. Any human ways of structurally learning can be taught to a machine. Theoretically, but of course fare more difficult to understand than a human mind can manage. But a machine might step by step. Our mind is probably using some quantum physics, but we are about to develop quantum machines also.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2561363]All of this talk about transhumanism is incongruent with the author's disdain for current pharmaceutical technology. He believes in the future advancement of human capabilities but shuns the current advancements that will help get us there. Medicine, vaccines, and nootropic drugs are just the beginning of performance enhancement but instead of embracing those things, he opts for "natural" remedies that are much less effective. Ray Kurzweil himself takes over 100 pills per day, not just natural supplements buy also common diabetic and cholesterol medications, not to mention a few nootropic drugs. There are obviously potential harmful effects that must be managed and improved upon but the same will have to be done with AI technology as the field progresses. Yet the poster expresses zero apprehension it its advancement. We are much closer to Terminator 2 Skynet than we are to unlocking the science behind quantum physics and quantum biology yet his concerns are more focused on the latter.[/QUOTE]I just don't trust amateurs. And there are plenty of amateurs. I take about 10 pills per day myself ATM.

The only iffy thing here is that in order to achieve general AI, we might first have to understand the brain better on a large data sample. And one of the simplest ways of doing that is by nanorobots (not that it is simple. But the lesser of some difficulties perhaps). And that is where we are with vaccines and test kits developed by darpa too. This is where it stems from. It is due to transhimanism.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2561808] ... But my only drug is adrenaline I look for in my sports or on German autobahns... [/QUOTE]Did you ever thing to race cars on a track, not on public roads? You know, so that you don't put other people in danger? You probably would be laughed off the track though, so it's easier to brag in a forum.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2561871] I emphasize the Chinese story here, because they are the worlds best savers.[/QUOTE]True, but saving is only smart if you are the only one doing it. It's like avoiding bitcoin or dogecoin the moment the herds are investing.

So I remember somebody here who was very sure that this is not possible when I posted about this weeks ago. Will that person now admit that they were wrong?

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2561892]So I remember somebody here who was very sure that this is not possible when I posted about this weeks ago. Will that person now admit that they were wrong?[/QUOTE]I knew they will open in the last days I saw many big cars with Rumanian plates and prostitutes inside driving around Vienna. I could already go there today or tomorrow, will I go there for sure not.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2561884]I just don't trust amateurs. And there are plenty of amateurs. I take about 10 pills per day myself ATM.[/QUOTE]You're the one who was afraid of the vaccines and now you're talking about nanorobots? Enjoy.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2561871]The CRA demographic is an extreme example, but it seems the average Chinese millennial is also losing the savings reflex compared to past generations. The money that their parents saved is allowing Chinese millennials to have some financial cushion, which would provide them with more disposable income than their salary would suggest. It also seems common for Chinese parents (even on a taxi driver salary) to buy their children a home. This is due to their parents' legendary saving habits. And in part due to the one-child policy, that allowed financial resources to flow to a single offspring. P2 P lending also seems to be fueling new spending habits for the younger generation.

RE: Nigerians and Indians. I emphasize the Chinese story here, because they are the worlds best savers. And if the younger generation can undergo such a drastic change in spending habits, then it could happen anywhere. Immigrant savings habits are forged in great part due to the economic conditions back home, and much of that is dependent on what decade they were born in, and what year they left their home country. If each successive generation of Nigerians and Indians get more "spoiled" like the Chinese have, their savings reflex will also diminish. You said yourself, you are frugal, but nowhere near as frugal as your mother.[/QUOTE]To be honest, I've lost track of the main point of contention. Mine was that immigrant savings rates are higher than native born.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2561888]Did you ever thing to race cars on a track, not on public roads? You know, so that you don't put other people in danger? You probably would be laughed off the track though, so it's easier to brag in a forum.[/QUOTE]If you know what it is, or look on internet, I rebuilt a crashed RS500 Cosworth when I was 26, using race pieces, putting more than 50% more on engine power, with race yellow injectors, race bigger Garett turbo and so impressive noise for race turbo wastegate for 1,8 bar, making fire under and behind car, and drove daily to go to work for nearly 15 years. When I meet people 15 years later, none forgot but asking about the legend, the image, the noise and starts with engine at 5000 tours / mn and putting left feet off clutch, good game with fire behind, was called rodeo girl, when new cars are so easy and my figures are 0 crash in Germany or Switzerland for snails, when I often see crashes there and was so many times in Switzerland with RS500 , I remember when climbing, maximum accelerating to ski resorts, like rallye runs. No radars in mountains. If You ever tried, You would know circuits kill tires, brakes and suspensions, when Audi don t understand how I kill so fast brakes disks, not only plaques, but just normal when You brake on high speed, then brakes reach high temperature and are killed much faster. I feel more safe pushing in Germany than snailing risking to feel asleep in Switzerland where I didn't return since 6 months. I regret for Verbier, but just easy about brothels.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2561871]RE: Nigerians and Indians. I emphasize the Chinese story here, because they are the worlds best savers. And if the younger generation can undergo such a drastic change in spending habits, then it could happen anywhere. Immigrant savings habits are forged in great part due to the economic conditions back home, and much of that is dependent on what decade they were born in, and what year they left their home country. If each successive generation of Nigerians and Indians get more "spoiled" like the Chinese have, their savings reflex will also diminish. You said yourself, you are frugal, but nowhere near as frugal as your mother.[/QUOTE]For a long time, the Chinese saved because there was not much consumption to be had, no other ways to save money. By law, no one owns land, it is only a lease right for a few decades. Even this reform was introduced not that long ago, perhaps 20 or 30 years ago. Real interest rates are suppressed, capital flows in and out of the country are controlled by the government. Real estate was the primary investment vehicle but in the absence of a truly developed mortgage market, buyers need to save for down payments which are rather large. US is one of the few markets with long term mortgages widely available w / no pre-payment penalties; can never underestimate the impact this lack of prepayment penalty clause had in the development of this market here. There is a wide institutional ownership of such mortgages here, but such capital markets are not developed anywhere else. In fact, even in Europe, even now, even corporates depend on their banks for a large percent of their funding needs. Anyway, coming back to China, in the last decade, shadow banking is developing fast, there are other venues for investments, A share market is massive, and of course consumption has taken off. You can't ignore government role in all of this. Up to a decade ago, China's economy was inverted from that of US; here consumption is 70% of GDP while in China it was in the 40's. It was primarily an export driven economy funded by the people and their savings which were receiving artificially low interest rates. Now, they are engineering a massive turnaround into a consumption focused economy, as exports are slowing, there is widespread backlash from other nations due to trade deficits, and many other reasons. I would not attribute the savings rate differential to some mythical cultural traits ingrained in one race v other; under different circumstances, different economic conditions and policies by their governments, the same set of people would save and consume at different rates.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2561892]So I remember somebody here who was very sure that this is not possible when I posted about this weeks ago. Will that person now admit that they were wrong?[/QUOTE]I didn't think Austria would allow risky brothels opening so fast, but how? FFP2? QR code? I will wait before going, I don't want to go to a hospital and I want free foods, even I really enjoyed my GT Vienna discovery on last Summer when not so crowded, without mask nor QR code. Maybe ZH and Germany will follow soon. Let's see, when Germany put now UK under 15 days quarantine. I don't believe so much what claim brothels.

[URL]https://www.wsj.com/articles/intelligence-on-sick-staff-at-wuhan-lab-fuels-debate-on-covid-19-origin-11621796228?mod=hp_lead_pos3[/URL]

I realize this site is full of CCP sympathizers and their apologists. But slowly the dialog is shifting to figuring out the true origin of this virus. The vicious backlash from CCP towards Australia with some CCP officials even mentioning nuclear weapons usage shows their defensiveness, and how edgy they continue to be. As of now, even the most strident CCP critics are staying with the accidental leak theory. At some point, if / when the lab origin of the virus is confirmed, the next question to be asked will be if the leak was accidental indeed or had the full blessing of Chinese admin / Xi.

A year ago, WSJ wouldn't have touched a story like this w / a ten foot pole. Now, it is their headline.

Good morning guys, right now I have to pay $1.22 us to buy one euro, anybody want to comment on this, why this is happening, not the best deal to go to Europe, even if you could get there.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2561980][URL]https://www.wsj.com/articles/intelligence-on-sick-staff-at-wuhan-lab-fuels-debate-on-covid-19-origin-11621796228?mod=hp_lead_pos3[/URL]

I realize this site is full of CCP sympathizers and their apologists. But slowly the dialog is shifting to figuring out the true origin of this virus. The vicious backlash from CCP towards Australia with some CCP officials even mentioning nuclear weapons usage shows their defensiveness, and how edgy they continue to be. As of now, even the most strident CCP critics are staying with the accidental leak theory. At some point, if / when the lab origin of the virus is confirmed, the next question to be asked will be if the leak was accidental indeed or had the full blessing of Chinese admin / Xi.

A year ago, WSJ wouldn't have touched a story like this w / a ten foot pole. Now, it is their headline.[/QUOTE]What I find very confusing about the theory that the CCP deliberately leaked a lab engineered virus is why would they leak it in their own country?

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2561729]With a so exceptional mother, you can only love women. Enjoy with your friends here and in brothels, when you didn't understand from your experience in brothels.[/QUOTE]Won't exactly don't I understand?

[QUOTE=Turgid;2562184]What I find very confusing about the theory that the CCP deliberately leaked a lab engineered virus is why would they leak it in their own country?[/QUOTE]Motives of CCP are not necessarily in alignment with the humanistic values we assume in the West. Here is one possibility: If they had felt they could control it and keep it limited to one province and deaths to a manageable #, and then unleash it on the rest of the world which crippled all their rivals while their own GDP was stable to growing, it was a calculated risk with large upside. The thousands of lives lost in Wuhan were acceptable collateral.

Now, even to their own citizens, CCP look like heroes. "hey, the party had defeated the virus much better; look at how the rest of the world struggled". CCP's regime and legitimacy constantly depend on stoking the "us v them" netionalistic fervor. I have no doubt that if a real poll were done, CCP's popularity in China is higher today than it was in December 2019.

I am not saying this is what happened. But there is also no proof that it did not happen. The investigation has been shoddy and non-existent at best, the west caved in, China feigned haughty indignity when pressed and some extreme elements in their regime almost threatened nuclear missile launches at the Aussies.

If this virus was leaked, and especially deliberately leaked (but even if done accidentally), something that resulted in potentially more deaths than from Nazi pogroms, should that be investigated? Even if it is a 1% chance, it should be investigated IMO. But the CCP apologists like to call it baseless conspiracy, belittle and shame those demanding investigations and squelch all discussion.

CCP killed millions in their own purges in the past. Whether it was called the Great Leap Forward or something else. People forget because those things happened a while ago that they have become lovey dovey loosey goosey but their goal is to keep absolute control over the nation and potentially expand internationally and the lives of some citizens have been and will be sacrificed in that grand quest.

[QUOTE=Sailor501;2562160]Good morning guys, right now I have to pay $1.22 us to buy one euro, anybody want to comment on this, why this is happening, not the best deal to go to Europe, even if you could get there.[/QUOTE]DXY has weakened from slightly more than 102 on March 20,2020 to slightly less than 90 today. DXY is a weighted dollar index against a basket of all major currencies. Specifically v Euro too, the same pattern: Euro spot weakened from 1. 24 in March'18 to 1. 07 in March'20 and since then rebounded back to 1. 22+. During the sell off into Covid crash, dollar strengthened as a safe haven. That might be laughable for some, but beggar they neighbor applies when it comes to currencies. Conversely, from March 2020, markets priced in an improving outlook (as reflected in stock prices as well), and during rebounds, the weakest that got crushed the most also rebound the most. Which is helping the other currencies vs Dollar. Finally, the US Fed has committed to a very extended extremely easy monetary policy and have stayed steadfast -- even in the face of obviously rising inflation. When the Fed says rates will stay at zero on the short end, no currency trader will fight it.

Personally, the market will snap at some point. Any business owner can tell you it is so tough to hire people these days. Inflation is creeping up quite fast. We will see how long the Fed will stay on this route. If / when Fed breaks their resolve and signal they will let go of the easy policy, dollar will rise sharp v other currencies. Conversely, I am a Euro skeptic, never see any sustained growth in Euro, and sooner or later their economy WILL suck, and that will pull down Euro with it.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2561903]You're the one who was afraid of the vaccines and now you're talking about nanorobots? Enjoy.[/QUOTE]I have understood for a long time that you have issues understanding logic. So here are a few hints:

1. Vaccines are a massive risk for all sorts of reasons, and the database showing side effects is only growing larger by the day. It is also just the top of the iceberg! And already hundreds of thousands of people in Europe alone are on the list of affected. If not millions (I haven't checked in awhile). Plus there is a lag on these numbers. And doctors and others have a tendency to point fingers at other causes.

2. The link between nanorobots and vaccines is not something I personally believe in. The darpa funded test kits and its potential link to such nanobots might even be more reasonable, though still dubious. But just because I wrote about it does not mean I think we are there yet. If ever.

3. If I were to insert nanorobs into a large population to study and control their brains, I'd contact Nestle or Coca Cola about it instead of some dubious (LOL) vaccine company! Though I have realised long time ago that even the richest or presumably smartest people on this planet are not as alpha as myself when it comes to smart strategical thinking! So who knows?

Then again, if Elon's brain chip becomes a success, people might just sign up for nanorobots for increased functionality as a 2nd generation arrives in 9 or 10 years anyway. Unless that is too late or unforeseen complications arrives. But that is the projected timeline.

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2562097]For sure ASAP most of the FKK will reopen, but what will be the LU and more importantly do you really believe that being vaccinated protect you to get sick, I will not meet any prostitute before the pandemy is completely under control.[/QUOTE]Quite average casting on 2020 reopening at Samya. If you are afraid to get sick, better not to go to risky playfield FKK. I survived from my many visits in Germany, Austria and Switzerland under covid, giving my real number to get contacted if needed.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2562230]Though I have realised long time ago that even the richest or presumably smartest people on this planet are not as alpha as myself when it comes to smart strategical thinking! So who knows?[/QUOTE]Strange that a super intellectual alpha exists in such a mediocre position in life socially, professionally, physically, and financially. The appropriate question is: "By what metric."

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2562196]Motives of CCP are not necessarily in alignment with the humanistic values we assume in the West. Here is one possibility: If they had felt they could control it and keep it limited to one province and deaths to a manageable #, and then unleash it on the rest of the world which crippled all their rivals while their own GDP was stable to growing, it was a calculated risk with large upside. The thousands of lives lost in Wuhan were acceptable collateral.[/QUOTE]They would be morons in that case which is not impossible but it would make more sense that the viruses escaped from the lab.

Each time I read you, I wonder if you're trolling since the beginning or if you're just totally nuts.

Believe me, no one of us will see the day when you can easily replace some body parts with cybernetic prosthetics or use nanorobots to fix I don't know what. It will remain science fiction stuff for a really long time.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2562211]Inflation is creeping up quite fast. We will see how long the Fed will stay on this route.[/QUOTE]"Everything Screams Inflation: Investors are woefully unprepared for what may be a once-in-a-generation shift in the market": [URL]https://www.wsj.com/articles/everything-screams-inflation-11620163599?mod=article_inline[/URL].

"If Inflation Is Coming, Here Is What to Do About It: Investing to protect a portfolio against the likelihood of rising prices is harder than it looks": [URL]https://www.wsj.com/articles/if-inflation-is-coming-here-is-what-to-do-about-it-11620694235[/URL].

Both from the same author. Is he just trying to get more hits? Or some truth?

[QUOTE=Ararat;2562398]They would be morons in that case which is not impossible but it would make more sense that the viruses escaped from the lab.[/QUOTE]I feel the same. While conspiracy and deliberate intent is often the more sexy story, I have found that incompetence and laziness more often than not explains society's problems.

[QUOTE=Ararat;2562398]They would be morons in that case which is not impossible but it would make more sense that the viruses escaped from the lab.[/QUOTE]What we call them. Morons, heroes, etc - (depending on who is doing the calling) is less relevant.

What does matter is that there is evidence and an investigation that should have been pursued but which was not. Through 2020, there was even a rush to ignore it, give CCP a clean chit and accept their version of the origin. It was only some dogged pursuit of this by people who were ridiculed throughout 2020 that there is some new info coming to the surface.

If the leak was even an accidental one, it is a monumental scandal and heads would roll and many things would change in the future. But whether it even originated and leaked from a lab itself was almost not investigated because people (mostly the same ones who are now pooh poohing the deliberate leak or even the accidental leak possibility) were desperate to whitewash such a chance.

But if, as I said, there is even a 1% chance it was a deliberate leak, the CCP would most certainly be not morons. They would be perpetrators of a massive genocide. It may be more insidious and less public than the pogroms of WW2, but it would be a genocide in no unclear terms.

The question is, why would anyone (here or elsewhere) be so eager to ignore such a possibility? Are they always eager to turn a blind eye to genocides?

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2562518]"Everything Screams Inflation: Investors are woefully unprepared for what may be a once-in-a-generation shift in the market": [URL]https://www.wsj.com/articles/everything-screams-inflation-11620163599?mod=article_inline[/URL].

"If Inflation Is Coming, Here Is What to Do About It: Investing to protect a portfolio against the likelihood of rising prices is harder than it looks": [URL]https://www.wsj.com/articles/if-inflation-is-coming-here-is-what-to-do-about-it-11620694235[/URL].

Both from the same author. Is he just trying to get more hits? Or some truth?[/QUOTE]Do you think the two articles you cited are contradictory? I see them quite aligned.

James Mackintosh is one of the better journalists at WSJ IMO.

In the first link, he rightfully observes that if inflation is real, it is being ignored (by central banks, pols) at a time when things which kept inflation down for 50 years such as globalization and demographics are coming to the end of their cycles.

In the second, he is telling WSJ readers "hey, if inflation does come, at least protect your nest egg by doing x / why / z".

The key question is whether Mackintosh is actually right in that inflation does spike up and how sustainably. Even the Fed has not denied it but called it transitory. CPI came at 4. % you last week, so it would be futile for Fed to deny CPI is high. They are just saying it will not stay high for too long. As of now, markets (bonds, equities, other) are less certain than the Fed on this matter.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2562448]Each time I read you, I wonder if you're trolling since the beginning or if you're just totally nuts.

Believe me, no one of us will see the day when you can easily replace some body parts with cybernetic prosthetics or use nanorobots to fix I don't know what. It will remain science fiction stuff for a really long time.[/QUOTE]I agree with your assessment of the poster but not the science. We can already create simple organs and have the scaffolding and cell lineage to create more complex organs. Many synthetic organs implant have already been successfully performed. We're just in the lull of hammering out the nuts and bolts of more complex organs.

But yes, the poster's diatribes about quantum whatever remains far far away. Cybernetic limbs and synthetic prothetics however not only will be achieved in our lifetimes, some already have. Easiest example of complex prosthetics; cochlear implants that have been around for decades. Simple synthetic organ implants such as urinary bladders and tracheas have already been performed and common use is right around the corner as they just have to be made financially affordable to the public. Complex organs such as hearts, lungs, and cybernetic limbs will take a few more decades to iron out kinks but the science is already there.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2562533]Do you think the two articles you cited are contradictory? I see them quite aligned.[/QUOTE]They did not seem contradictory. I only read the titles and bylines (behind paywall). With so many things competing for our attention, scarier headlines sell. If Mackintosh is persuasive enough in the first article (threat is real), then that should drive traffic to the second article (how to protect against the threat).

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2562533]In the second, he is telling WSJ readers "hey, if inflation does come, at least protect your nest egg by doing x / why / z".[/QUOTE]Any useful advice offered?

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2562534]Cybernetic limbs and synthetic prothetics however not only will be achieved in our lifetimes, some already have. Easiest example of complex prosthetics; cochlear implants that have been around for decades. Simple synthetic organ implants such as urinary bladders and tracheas have already been performed and common use is right around the corner as they just have to be made financially affordable to the public.[/QUOTE]Well I was thinking more of cybernetic arms, eyes and so on. I don't think that we'll see in our lifetime something as effective as our natural limbs and organs, or even half as effective. They've been working on synthetic hearts for decades, for the moment it's just still a way to delay your death a little bit no? And plugging chips in human brains? Well I don't want to think at the risk of infections, or neurodegerenative diseases. I just had a look at your cochlear implants, how do they rate compared to ears in good condition? There was a scandal lately about some kind of 'prostethic nets for pussies' made to prevent the prolapse of I don't know which internal organs, it turned out to be a fucking disaster with women totally crippled for life. The only prosthetics I have are three teeth and I don't want to get any more.

[URL]https://www.wsj.com/articles/inquiry-into-covid-19s-origins-splits-u-s-and-china-11621969480?mod=hp_lead_pos3[/URL]

"A deeper inquiry into the pandemic's origins is "a critical priority for us," Andy Slavitt, the White House senior adviser for the Covid-19 response, said at a briefing Tuesday. "We need to get to the bottom of this and we need a completely transparent process from China. We need the WHO to assist in that matter. We don't feel like we have that now."

But those efforts are up against a push by China to have the WHO shift that probe into other countries, contending that the pandemic may have originated elsewhere.

Complicating matters, leading public health officials—including WHO Director General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus —have called for a thorough investigation into whether the pandemic could have begun with a lab accident.

Anthony Fauci, President Biden's chief medical officer, was asked in a May 11 Senate hearing whether the Covid-19 virus could have escaped from a lab in Wuhan—home to the Wuhan Institute of Virology, which conducted extensive research on bat-borne coronaviruses. He responded, "that possibility certainly exists and I am totally in favor of a full investigation of whether that could have happened. "

China strongly contests that such a lab accident is a plausible explanation for the pandemic. "

So, China even denies that it leaked out of their lab is not even plausible. Seems like we have a fair number of CCP acolytes doing their bidding here.

The China stance that this virus instead originated in the US is reminiscent of the US politics. GOP contending that January 6 is not the issue but that summer 2020 protests needed to be investigated; or that Russia probe should never have happened but instead Hunter needs to be investigated.

I admire Fauci but he lost some credibility. He jumped the gun last year a little too soon. I remember having a dispute w / some dude here about this matter. At least, to his credit, Fauci now sensibly is supportive of a proper investigation.

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2562097]do you really believe that being vaccinated protect you to get sick, I will not meet any prostitute before the pandemy is completely under control.[/QUOTE]Yes, I do really "believe" that being vaccinated protects me from getting sick. You know, there is this thing called "medical science", which operates on facts and not just a matter of what you "believe".

You are certainly free to wrap yourself in a full body condom and lock yourself in the basement for the rest of times.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2562553]They did not seem contradictory. I only read the titles and bylines (behind paywall). With so many things competing for our attention, scarier headlines sell. If Mackintosh is persuasive enough in the first article (threat is real), then that should drive traffic to the second article (how to protect against the threat).

Any useful advice offered?[/QUOTE]Since most of the readers already paid the subscription, there is no specific advantage to driving traffic to one article v the other. In general, he has a good reputation. WSJ is normally center right, their news articles are informative but the opeds are very right leaning. The ideologue readers come to WSJ mostly for the opeds and then argue endlessly about political points in the comments section. Kinda like ISG. Articles by people like Mackintosh, Greg IP and others are technical and don't drive up reader passions much. Anyway, inflation onset is being debated for 5 to 6 months now, and his headline is not scary nor new. It is just that he wrote up this theme again after the 4% number came out. As for tips, the usual suspects about buying commodities and TIPS as hedges; but commodity index funds have already run up huge. DBC is one example (GSG, CCRV are some others). There are many others. TIP is the ishares TIPS ETF and that has already run up big amount as well.

Generally speaking, by the time some advice appears in WSJ, that particular idea has been priced in the market more often than not. Not always, but often enough. The ones writing for WSJ get paid a small fraction of what the traders do; the ones who have the information keep it to themselves and make money off it, not writing and sharing it w / others.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2562556]Well I was thinking more of cybernetic arms, eyes and so on. I don't think that we'll see in our lifetime something as effective as our natural limbs and organs, or even half as effective. They've been working on synthetic hearts for decades, for the moment it's just still a way to delay your death a little bit no? And plugging chips in human brains? Well I don't want to think at the risk of infections, or neurodegerenative diseases. I just had a look at your cochlear implants, how do they rate compared to ears in good condition? There was a scandal lately about some kind of 'prostethic nets for pussies' made to prevent the prolapse of I don't know which internal organs, it turned out to be a fucking disaster with women totally crippled for life. The only prosthetics I have are three teeth and I don't want to get any more.[/QUOTE]Any neuro-prosthetic is for sure a much much longer time away. We don't even understand the mapping of the brain and it is the most individualized organ. Add that we barely know anything about consciousness and sentiency and yeah, preserving life in regards to the human brain may not be accomplished in our lifetimes.

But the rest are just nuts and bolts, although complex ones. In most cases, you are right to assume that artificial implants do not compare to optimal natural varieties. For the ear, the common deficit is quality of sound but sensitivity can be superior. Overall, that's probably a win for natural ears. The same can be said for all other organs mentioned, They are inferior, currently.

But remember that these things are in their infancy. The fact that we can even successfully accomplish the basic implant in itself is huge and I think takes it out of the realm of science fiction. I dare say that we are deep into the research phase and are having to deal with the long-haul engineering and troubleshooting phase.

Currently, the tech is not evolving like science fiction where an entire diseased heart is replaced by a totally artificial one (although stem cell-derived hearts have already been made on top of a cartilage scaffolding. It was even stimulated to beat indefinitely). The current technology can replace the lower chambers of the heart (France actually leads in this sector), valves, and of course the pacemaker. Piece by piece it is coming together. One of the major problems with artificial hearts is one you where the average person not think, it is the problems of blood clotting when it comes in contact with inorganic substances such as the plastics and other materials in these prothesis.

As for cybernetic limbs, obviously they are still behind and not like the arm seen in the Winter Soldier. But prosthetics that are neurologically linked are already out there. The newest developments in Sweden even allow for sensation. As all of the neuro-sensory issues are hammered out to more closely emulate fine motor control, obviously these limb prosthesis will be far superior in terms of strength and durability.

Point is, these things are not exactly science fiction. But we are talking about the real world, tangible applications, not the dreamland tech that the original poster writes about. They are topics in which he does not understand but uses to profess his "enlightened superiority". That's why in his posts you only see superficial mentioning of hotwords and key terms. Anytime there is any indepth discussion, his ignorance is revealed. Just like when a kid who didn't do his assigned reading for school can be easily outed because it was obvious that he just wrote a book report using the summary in the back of the book.

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2562097]For sure ASAP most of the FKK will reopen, but what will be the LU and more importantly do you really believe that being vaccinated protect you to get sick, I will not meet any prostitute before the pandemy is completely under control.[/QUOTE]I am not pessimistic sir. But I think It will haunt us for some more time (couple of years). So one have to get acclimatize with the situation. I feel it will be better to move parallel with the situation. I will definitly take some calculated risk. But the main worry is when everything will open at least half way before this pandemic.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2562530]What does matter is that there is evidence and an investigation that should have been pursued but which was not. [/QUOTE]The problem is that China will never ever allow a proper investigation. The only goal of the CCP is to stay in power and bully anybody who questions any of their decisions.

[QUOTE=Thampi62;2562710]I am not pessimistic sir. But I think It will haunt us for some more time (couple of years). So one have to get acclimatize with the situation. I feel it will be better to move parallel with the situation. I will definitly take some calculated risk. But the main worry is when everything will open at least half way before this pandemic.[/QUOTE]I am really wondering how you can take calculated risk, knowing that the virus could be present everywhere, hair, skin, body fluid, table, door handle, even inside the air of the FKK, to protect our self we should open 15 minutes every hour the door and windows, this is just impossible in a FKK. Vaccinations are showing some efficiency against the serious form of covid but will not prevent to get sick for many days or weeks as long you don t need a ICU bed, for Pfister, and all the others the vaccines are efficient.

[QUOTE=Ctytek;2562604]Yes, I do really "believe" that being vaccinated protects me from getting sick. You know, there is this thing called "medical science", which operates on facts and not just a matter of what you "believe".

You are certainly free to wrap yourself in a full body condom and lock yourself in the basement for the rest of times.[/QUOTE]Advice you to look carefully about the documents provided by Pfister and others to get approved, vaccines prevent you around 50% not to need a ICU bed, but you can get seriously sick for days and weeks. Nevertheless everyone can choose is destiny, I will not taking any risk just to fuck a prostitute, just because I believe it is at very high risk. Just try to understand why so many doctors and nurses even vaccinated are getting sick.

[QUOTE=Ctytek;2562604]Yes, I do really "believe" that being vaccinated protects me from getting sick. You know, there is this thing called "medical science", which operates on facts and not just a matter of what you "believe".[/QUOTE]So please explain the "science" behind these stories.

[URL]https://www.dw.com/en/coronavirus-infection-despite-vaccination-maybe-but-jabs-still-save-lives/a-57014640[/URL]

[URL]https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-56992121[/URL]

Perhaps you haven't noticed, but the narrative is once again being manipulated by Big Pharma, the media and the lying politicians.

Last year, vaccinations were pumped and promoted as 'stopping Covid19,' but now suddenly the narrative has shifted to 'you still get it, but you'll be LESS sick. ' Hahahahaha!

Please explain the "science" that fully 'vaccinated' people will still have to socially distance and wear your face diaper.

[QUOTE=Ararat;2562398]They would be morons in that case which is not impossible but it would make more sense that the viruses escaped from the lab.[/QUOTE]Geez! When Sean Connery and Nicolas Cage manage to escape from Alcatraz, do you really think microscopic viruses we cannot even see with the naked eye has any problems at all escaping a Chinese lab? How dumb are you really?

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2562448]Believe me, no one of us will see the day when you can easily replace some body parts with cybernetic prosthetics or use nanorobots to fix I don't know what. It will remain science fiction stuff for a really long time.[/QUOTE]We can already make nanorobots, but it is costly at large scale. At least publicly. I haven't mentioned cybernetic prosthetics. Not sure why you mention that here, but I met a guy at the gym just 2 days ago who did 150 kg squats with one artificial leg and one normal leg. And it was certainly the artificial one holding him back he claimed! But I don't see the essence of transhumanism to replace limbs. It is far more a question of neuromorphic compute and censoring as well as memory links that will enhance the human experience. Imagine boosting certain hormonal stimuli to the brain 10 x, making you into true sex junkie! I bet some militaries would love this! Just project a front line of holographic strippers near the enemy base and send brain stimulus through zenneck waves to make them 20 times hornier. They wouldn't give a shit in regards to winning, and just stand there frozen while ejaculating!

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2562448]Each time I read you, I wonder if you're trolling since the beginning or if you're just totally nuts.

Believe me, no one of us will see the day when you can easily replace some body parts with cybernetic prosthetics or use nanorobots to fix I don't know what. It will remain science fiction stuff for a really long time.[/QUOTE]I am just setting it straight!

Through Machiavellianism and the covid play, our entire world is currently being trolled!

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2562530]The question is, why would anyone (here or elsewhere) be so eager to ignore such a possibility? Are they always eager to turn a blind eye to genocides?[/QUOTE]Very true! As I have posted a few times here before already, everyone should watch the Australian 60 minutes episode related to the Wuhan lab virus leakage! There they are 100% aligned with me and Pessimist on this. And the chance of it being more than a 1% chance of a government plot is very high given how the event unfolded!

Like always, I am right and the amateur gang here on ISG who claims to be doctors are in essence snake sacrificing Satanists!

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2562556]Well I don't want to think at the risk of infections, or neurodegerenative diseases. I just had a look at your cochlear implants, how do they rate compared to ears in good condition? There was a scandal lately about some kind of 'prostethic nets for pussies' made to prevent the prolapse of I don't know which internal organs, it turned out to be a fucking disaster with women totally crippled for life. The only prosthetics I have are three teeth and I don't want to get any more.[/QUOTE]All these things will be modeled through the use of AI. As soon as we can emulate the entire body, a lot of the problems we see today will be fixed. The question is all related to how much computing power we need, as well as the software of course. But that usually matures around 5 years after the hardware arrives.

[URL]https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-coventry-warwickshire-57234741[/URL]

[QUOTE]"Covid-19: First man to get jab William Shakespeare dies of unrelated illness"[/QUOTE]Note how the the BigBlackCock propaganda outfit label his death an "unrelated illness" LOL! Where is the autopsy report?

[QUOTE]Mr Shakespeare, who had lived in Brownshill Green, was an inpatient on the hospital's frailty ward at the time of his first jab, and said it had been "wonderful".[/QUOTE]Wonderful! Hahahahaha! It's almost like a religious cult where the First Communion is replaced with a "jab!" 'Branch Covidian!' 'Corona's Witnesses!' LOL!

You die in a motorcycle accident, then you get labeled "Covid19" but you die 6 months after getting injected with an experimental vaccine then it's quickly labeled as "unrelated illness."

[URL]https://wpde.com/news/nation-world/man-who-died-in-motorcycle-crash-counted-as-covid-19-death-in-florida-report-07-18-2020[/URL]

This is how you are brainwashed and manipulated!

Go ahead suckers: line up for those "jabs" and die! The planet will be much better off, the global average IQ will go up, and there will be more pussy for the rest of us!

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2562778]So please explain the "science" behind these stories.

[URL]https://www.dw.com/en/coronavirus-infection-despite-vaccination-maybe-but-jabs-still-save-lives/a-57014640[/URL]

[URL]https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-56992121[/URL]

Perhaps you haven't noticed, but the narrative is once again being manipulated by Big Pharma, the media and the lying politicians.

Last year, vaccinations were pumped and promoted as 'stopping Covid19,' but now suddenly the narrative has shifted to 'you still get it, but you'll be LESS sick. ' Hahahahaha!

Please explain the "science" that fully 'vaccinated' people will still have to socially distance and wear your face diaper.[/QUOTE]Looking forward to visiting Samya in the near future.

So happy to see things progressing and international travel opened up by May. These signs of normalcy with German cases falling below 50 per 100 K are very encouraging!

So glad to see the vaccines are helping put an end to the pandemic by reducing disease severity, giving the body some ammo to fight off the virus before the person becomes very ill while also reducing the time for which transmission is possible / likely.

In the mean time, fully vaccinated people who now have the tools to fight the virus can help reduce transmission by slapping on a mask and reducing asymptomatic spread. Hooray for humans who are not likely to suffer much from the disease itself, but opting to help society by preventing vulnerable from getting sick.

Miss you on the rants thread bud. I understand that it must be difficult to face your critics but no hard feelings. We all make mistakes!

[QUOTE=Pistons;2562808]Geez! When Sean Connery and Nicolas Cage manage to escape from Alcatraz, do you really think microscopic viruses we cannot even see with the naked eye has any problems at all escaping a Chinese lab? How dumb are you really?[/QUOTE]He literally said that it was more likely that the virus escaped from a lab.

Autopsy? That's a joke isn't it? I believe the snake sacrificers at WHO have clearly advised against this! The Russians are however rumored to not giving shit at least, and found expanded veins full of clotted radioactive bacteria in many of the dead covid victims. I guess only time will tell how accurate Russian news reports are. But I would not be surprised.

The wannabe gang are worse than just religious cultists. They are depopulation agenda sheeples and brainwashed Satanists. And the funny thing is that they seem woefully unaware of it themselves! LOL!

And this is why I stick to my anti coagulation strategy. Taking sauna, be-vitamin, the-vitamin, onion oil and have aspirin ready in case I start feeling ill.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2562817]Very true! As I have posted a few times here before already, everyone should watch the Australian 60 minutes episode related to the Wuhan lab virus leakage! There they are 100% aligned with me and Pessimist on this. And the chance of it being more than a 1% chance of a government plot is very high given how the event unfolded!

Like always, I am right and the amateur gang here on ISG who claims to be doctors are in essence snake sacrificing Satanists![/QUOTE]Why some people never admit error:

[QUOTE]The answer is related to their ego, their very sense-of-self. Some people have such a fragile ego, such brittle self-esteem, such a weak "psychological constitution," that admitting they made a mistake or that they were wrong is fundamentally too threatening for their egos to tolerate. Accepting they were wrong, absorbing that reality, would be so psychologically shattering, their defense mechanisms do something remarkable to avoid doing so they literally distort their perception of reality to make it (reality) less threatening. Their defense mechanisms protect their fragile ego by changing the very facts in their mind, so they are no longer wrong or culpable.

People who repeatedly exhibit this kind of behavior are, by definition, psychologically fragile. However, that assessment is often difficult for people to accept, because to the outside world, they look as if theyre confidently standing their ground and not backing down, things we associate with strength. But psychological rigidity is not a sign of strength, it is an indication of weakness. These people are not choosing to stand their ground; theyre compelled to do so in order to protect their fragile egos. Admitting we are wrong is unpleasant, it is bruising for any ego. It takes a certain amount of emotional strength and courage to deal with that reality and own up to our mistakes. Most of us sulk a bit when we have to admit we're wrong, but we get over it.

But when people are constitutionally unable to admit theyre wrong, when they cannot tolerate the very notion that they are capable of mistakes, it is because they suffer from an ego so fragile that they cannot sulk and get over it they need to warp their very perception of reality and challenge obvious facts in order to defend their not being wrong in the first place.

How we respond to such people is up to us. The one mistake we should not make is to consider their persistent and rigid refusal to admit theyre wrong as a sign of strength or conviction, because it is the absolute opposite psychological weakness and fragility.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-squeaky-wheel/201811/why-certain-people-will-never-admit-they-were-wrong[/QUOTE]Let me admit error as to at least attempt to not fall into this trap of prideful psychological fragility:

Over a year ago I was wrong. I thought that this virus would run its course in a few months, half a year max. Only looking at the pathology of the disease with what we knew at the time, I thought that it was a mere respiratory disease, easily controlled by modern medicine and sound public health. By summer 2020, we learned so much more, proving how wrong I was. While my ignorance to the full nature of the virus's pathologic process led me to make these poor assumptions, my biggest mistake was ignorance and optimism regarding human nature. It created a blindspot to the degree to which human pride can thwart human progress and our ability to surmount challenges at the population level.

Are you also fucking nuts or what? That's the sex deprivation which drives you so crazy?

[QUOTE=MrHo;2562714]A lot of varieties, but limited access LOL! It is like watch, but do not touch situation LOL! America should make most innovative brothel, but their religious belief and society norm forbid them, I wonder where that comes from?[/QUOTE]It's a country founded by English puritans and further populated by Catholic immigrants and the incorporation of the Spanish southwest. The church was the foundation of westward expansion towns and cities.

We're still a relatively new society where the people owed much of their survival to the resources of the church. As such, our society is not too far removed from the days in which social pressure from the church and churchgoers dictates your place in society. More cosmopolitan areas such as the Northeast and Pacific coasts are a little different but those areas are still bound to the social resistance of rest of the nation.

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2562858][URL]https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-coventry-warwickshire-57234741[/URL]

Note how the the BigBlackCock propaganda outfit label his death an "unrelated illness" LOL! Where is the autopsy report?

Wonderful! Hahahahaha! It's almost like a religious cult where the First Communion is replaced with a "jab!" 'Branch Covidian!' 'Corona's Witnesses!' LOL!

You die in a motorcycle accident, then you get labeled "Covid19" but you die 6 months after getting injected with an experimental vaccine then it's quickly labeled as "unrelated illness."

[URL]https://wpde.com/news/nation-world/man-who-died-in-motorcycle-crash-counted-as-covid-19-death-in-florida-report-07-18-2020[/URL]

This is how you are brainwashed and manipulated!

Go ahead suckers: line up for those "jabs" and die! The planet will be much better off, the global average IQ will go up, and there will be more pussy for the rest of us![/QUOTE]I guess any vaccinated person to die will now be linked to the horrible vaccine. Give it a rest and put down your fragile ego. We're making progress in ending the pandemic. It's okay to be happy even when you're wrong.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2561980]I realize this site is [b]full of CCP sympathizers and their apologists[/b]. But slowly the dialog is shifting to figuring out the true origin of this virus. The vicious backlash from CCP towards Australia with some CCP officials even mentioning nuclear weapons usage shows their defensiveness, and how edgy they continue to be. As of now, even the most strident CCP critics are staying with the accidental leak theory. At some point, if / when the lab origin of the virus is confirmed, the next question to be asked will be if the leak was accidental indeed or had the full blessing of Chinese admin / Xi.[/QUOTE]I assume you are referring to me (or Delta Indigo) as we are both by your definition "acolytes". I have zero issue with the accidental leak theory. Intentional leak is borderline. I mostly took issue with your contention that the virus was man-made. Saying the virus was not man-made is to me not a pro-China stance. It simply is a sentiment that China does not not have the scientific know-how to manipulate the virus in a manner that other virologists would not be able to detect the tampering.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2454155]That is the key point I was making -- that the [b]view that the virus is man made and came out of a Wuhan Lab is effectively the view of US government at the moment[/b]. We can all disagree but it IS the US government view for now.[/QUOTE]Here are my words from May 2020. I do not believe I am attacking China, but I am not sure if it would classify as a pro-China stance either:

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2454208]Scientists can look at the RNA in the samples to determine if it is man made or not, they need not go to Wuhan to make this conclusion. [b]I agree that China is in the wrong for blocking investigations of the Wuhan labs[/b]. It suggests a possible cover-up. Maybe scientists did not follow proper safety protocols and caught the virus from infected animals, resulting in an accidental spread to the general population.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=McAdonis;2454429][b]China is most likely hiding that there was some sort of accident at the lab[/b]. I posted a link from Dot Gov website, not some liberal rag. This link from the Director of National Intelligence states that the scientific consensus believes the virus is not man made.[/QUOTE]AFAIK, the current stance continues to be either zoonotic spillover or accidental leak. There is now more circumstantial evidence pointing to accidental leak. But back in May 2020, these were also the two prevailing theories:

[QUOTE]"The Intelligence Community also concurs with the wide scientific consensus that the COVID-19 virus was not manmade or genetically modified. The IC will continue to rigorously examine emerging information and intelligence to determine whether the outbreak began through contact with infected animals or if it was the result of an accident at a laboratory in Wuhan."

https://www.dni.gov/index.php/newsroom/press-releases/item/2112-intelligence-community-statement-on-origins-of-covid-19[/QUOTE]It seems to me that when someone does not 100 percent adopt and endorse your viewpoint, you apply labels, and are convinced that they have "fealty" to the opposing side. I tend to just look at the arguments presented. I suppose I might attempt to assess if the person I am debating is mentally stable. Otherwise, I do not care about the other person's profession, nationality, allegiances between posters, or who is agreeing with who.

About two years ago, there were a few senior posters who believed one poster was behind half the handles in the German FKK threads. Their belief was that this person was harvesting ISG handles (many of which had 1000 or more posts). And he was replying to himself using these different handles, and agreeing with his other fake handles to build "credibility". I was slightly skeptical, simply because I have a hard time believing someone could make posting on ISG their full-time job. And without conclusive evidence, I did not want to malign someone. I try not to read too much into another poster's intent or hidden agendas. If one person is indeed behind most of the handles on here, then there is even less reason to care about who is agreeing with who!

Also, I must come across as sneaky or as someone who is always up to something. If there is something about my writing style, that makes others impugn my motives, I welcome the criticism. The last debate I had with Cane (whites in Brazil), I remember him saying something along the lines of: "I knew that would be your next tactic". Anyway if I cherry-picked or pulled anything out of context, those quotes should be clickable.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2562900]It's a country founded by English puritans and further populated by Catholic immigrants and the incorporation of the Spanish southwest. The church was the foundation of westward expansion towns and cities.

We're still a relatively new society where the people owed much of their survival to the resources of the church. As such, our society is not too far removed from the days in which social pressure from the church and churchgoers dictates your place in society. More cosmopolitan areas such as the Northeast and Pacific coasts are a little different but those areas are still bound to the social resistance of rest of the nation.[/QUOTE]The evangelicals are a broken, spent political force these days. The feminazis are the problem now. The USA is genuinely hopeless, better to remain apolitical and just collect those frequent flyer miles across the pond.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2562894]Are you also fucking nuts or what? That's the sex deprivation which drives you so crazy?[/QUOTE]I've also noticed his declining mental health.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2562873]Looking forward to visiting Samya in the near future.

So happy to see things progressing and international travel opened up by May. These signs of normalcy with German cases falling below 50 per 100 K are very encouraging!

So glad to see the vaccines are helping put an end to the pandemic by reducing disease severity, giving the body some ammo to fight off the virus before the person becomes very ill while also reducing the time for which transmission is possible / likely.

In the mean time, fully vaccinated people who now have the tools to fight the virus can help reduce transmission by slapping on a mask and reducing asymptomatic spread. Hooray for humans who are not likely to suffer much from the disease itself, but opting to help society by preventing vulnerable from getting sick.

Miss you on the rants thread bud. I understand that it must be difficult to face your critics but no hard feelings. We all make mistakes![/QUOTE]There are news reports noting the efficacy of Pfizer and Moderna against the Indian mutation. Has anyone heard anything about the J&J and India variant yet? Unfortunately (or not), I did the J&J and now I'm in limbo when it comes to follow-up studies. Thanks.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2562938]I assume you are referring to me (or Delta Indigo) as we are both by your definition "acolytes". I have zero issue with the accidental leak theory. Intentional leak is borderline. I mostly took issue with your contention that the virus was man-made. Saying the virus was not man-made is to me not a pro-China stance. It simply is a sentiment that China does not not have the scientific know-how to manipulate the virus in a manner that other virologists would not be able to detect the tampering.

Here are my words from May 2020. I do not believe I am attacking China, but I am not sure if it would classify as a pro-China stance either:

AFAIK, the current stance continues to be either zoonotic spillover or accidental leak. There is now more circumstantial evidence pointing to accidental leak. But back in May 2020, these were also the two prevailing theories:

It seems to me that when someone does not 100 percent adopt and endorse your viewpoint, you apply labels, and are convinced that they have "fealty" to the opposing side. I tend to just look at the arguments presented. I suppose I might attempt to assess if the person I am debating is mentally stable. Otherwise, I do not care about the other person's profession, nationality, allegiances between posters, or who is agreeing with who.[/QUOTE]I don't remember who is Delta Indigo. I know I had some arguments with you in the past but the ones who stick in my mind very negatively are Gino with the endless Asian entry ban and the more recent not even debate but back and forth insults with a certain slimeball.

If I was referring to you, I would have said so very clearly. As you know, I did throw unnecessary insult at you last week but then regretted it and apologized for it because you were not in the middle of it.

As for the rest of your argument: believe what you believe and if what you said in the past is consistent with the more recent developments, it is fine. Whatever you think, millions died from a virus that came from China and my point in the past, present and until it is proven in the future is this: it was never investigated properly. CCP certainly had a motive. Many people in the west were too eager to swallow CCP's lies and ridicule people who did not nod their heads.

"Here are my words from May 2020. " If those were all the words you said and nothing more, good for you. I don't know why I would have disputed you on whether it was zoonotic or not, given I have no bio background. I stick w / topics I know.

[URL]https://www.ft.com/content/57174621-3863-42b0-a39a-a36801fd7481[/URL]

Now, Biden is also calling for a thorough investigation. Perhaps he is also a conspiracy monger. Fauci did a you turn. Apparently Fauci is out of favor in China and w / CCP now.

If you are behind the paywall for FT, below is a snippet from the above FT link:

"But questions over the institute's role resurfaced over the weekend after a report in the Wall Street Journal said that US intelligence agencies had concluded three researchers from the WIV fell ill with the disease in November 2019, a month before the first official case was reported.

Andy Slavitt, one of Biden's pandemic advisers, on Tuesday reiterated the US's demand for a more comprehensive international investigation.

That demand prompted an angry response from China, where state media described the lab leak hypothesis as "a conspiracy created by US intelligence agencies". "

Whether it was you or whoever attacked me last year pretty much implied I was a conspiracy monger. Now, CCP / China's state media is accusing US intelligence agencies of being conspiracy mongering because they too questioned the origin of the virus. I guess we can who is aligned with whose view here.

"I mostly took issue with your contention that the virus was man-made. " Oh? Did I say so categorically that it was definitely man made? Care to show me when I said so?

"Saying the virus was not man-made is to me not a pro-China stance. " Straw man. But more importantly, how did you ever know it was definitely NOT man made? Privy to some info that even US intelligence / Fauci not have?

"It seems to me that when someone does not 100 percent adopt and endorse your viewpoint, you apply labels, and are convinced that they have "fealty" to the opposing side. " Pure nonsense. But no doubt it will please the slimeball and his other pimp. As such, I did not even mention your name but you found some chip on some shoulder and came out swinging. If anyone is throwing around labels, here it is clearly you, McAdonis.

Get this: From the beginning my stance was that this was never investigated, people who suggested alternate explanations were plausible were instead ridiculed (as you are doing to me here, and no doubt your slimeball friend will do so again, and he has a few more attacking dog pimps in his pay); however, from the beginning it was obvious that the one who benefited the most was indeed China. Which is what I said then, if I remember correctly.

In Financial crimes they say "follow the cash trail". Or just "who has the motive". China benefited. It originated in China. Why did some people (whether it was you or others is irrelevant to me, but the fact is, people did) rush to give a clean chit to China and disagree vehemently that a man made virus intentionally leaked was an impossibility?

I again want to know, if this virus was deliberately leaked, it is nothing short of a global genocide. Why was there a rush, at least an inclination, to not demand a thorough investigation? In fact, are you now demanding a thorough investigation into this? Are your views aligned with Biden's and Fauci's?

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2562938]I assume you are referring to me (or Delta Indigo) as we are both by your definition "acolytes". I have zero issue with the accidental leak theory. Intentional leak is borderline. I mostly took issue with your contention that the virus was man-made. Saying the virus was not man-made is to me not a pro-China stance. It simply is a sentiment that China does not not have the scientific know-how to manipulate the virus in a manner that other virologists would not be able to detect the tampering.

Here are my words from May 2020. I do not believe I am attacking China, but I am not sure if it would classify as a pro-China stance either:

AFAIK, the current stance continues to be either zoonotic spillover or accidental leak. There is now more circumstantial evidence pointing to accidental leak. But back in May 2020, these were also the two prevailing theories:[/QUOTE]Same. The accidental leak seems to be very plausible. But the jump to human virulence does imply that human manipulation played a role.

Actual intent seems contradictory to China's game plan. They have been steadfast and steady for decades. See financial lending, third world infrastructure building, finding a key position in supply chains, sending all their students to nearly every leading nation's institutions of higher learning. Western economies were already on a steady decline compared to theirs. Divisions among western nations were already seeded. Bioweapon sabotage would undermine decades of precision game-planning.

Still, even if accidental, they bear large responsibility for the cover up. Even if the jump occurred naturally, they still bear responsibility for the cover up in December of 2019.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2562938]Also, I must come across as sneaky or as someone who is always up to something. If there is something about my writing style, that makes others impugn my motives, I welcome the criticism. The last debate I had with Cane (whites in Brazil), I remember him saying something along the lines of: "I knew that would be your next tactic". Anyway if I cherry-picked or pulled anything out of context, those quotes should be clickable.[/QUOTE]Agreed. I know you enough to not be that clever. Pussy! Then again, those sneaky ching chongs. Jkjkjk!

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2562725]The problem is that China will never ever allow a proper investigation. The only goal of the CCP is to stay in power and bully anybody who questions any of their decisions.[/QUOTE]Of course. But who will stop an investigation? Who has the strongest motive in obstructing an investigation? If someone was clean, why would they stop this?

Several millions already died officially, but clearly death tolls are hugely understated. The number of Covid deaths worldwide make it clear this was nothing but a massive genocide, if it was an intentional leak. Only one group, namely CCP, is stopping that investigation.

[QUOTE=Clodius1;2562954]There are news reports noting the efficacy of Pfizer and Moderna against the Indian mutation. Has anyone heard anything about the J&J and India variant yet? Unfortunately (or not), I did the J&J and now I'm in limbo when it comes to follow-up studies. Thanks.[/QUOTE]The WHO says so. No evidence to think otherwise.

[URL]https://www.dw.com/en/covid-vaccines-effective-against-all-known-variants-says-who/a-57600323[/URL]

[QUOTE=Clodius1;2562950]The evangelicals are a broken, spent political force these days. The feminazis are the problem now. The USA is genuinely hopeless, better to remain apolitical and just collect those frequent flyer miles across the pond.[/QUOTE]Not so sure man. Politicians in the States still pander to the evangelicals. Even the most liberal politicians still would not dare declare a disbelief in a God, and certainly not the Christian God. We all know Trump isn't a religious man but he still courted all of the conservative evangelicals and nearly won a second time. I have no faith that Obama was religious either, but his team always made sure to show him at church around election season.

We're still decades behind Western / Northern Europe in regards to secularism.

Agreed that unbridled (American) liberalism may actually be the bigger threat going forward. On average, our people just don't have enough knowledge about world affairs to know any better.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2562900]It's a country founded by English puritans and further populated by Catholic immigrants and the incorporation of the Spanish southwest. The church was the foundation of westward expansion towns and cities.

We're still a relatively new society where the people owed much of their survival to the resources of the church. As such, our society is not too far removed from the days in which social pressure from the church and churchgoers dictates your place in society. More cosmopolitan areas such as the Northeast and Pacific coasts are a little different but those areas are still bound to the social resistance of rest of the nation.[/QUOTE]That explains a lot of things, but because of that people are pressured sexually among other things and go and shoot guns as it was also found with guns by killing native Indian people and also left the country divided as they also kidnapped African people and enslave them to build a country and never really apologized for it, but act as it was normal thing and now they are welcome kind of attitude as if they did it for them. Well I must say though comparison to 20th century a lot more equality is restored to USA and many part of the world.

So church is the reason behind sexual oppression in USA? That kind of make sense why many things are happening as it is happening in USA. I never get how one can put so much value on things that is written 2000 years ago, one can get inspire from it, but to base all your value is not a wise thing in my opinion.

But I also value myself on something that was created even few thousands years ago before that, naked young beautiful stunner LOL! I like to fuck them, that is my religion LOL and believe me, it is very peaceful hobby as after fucking them, the last thing I want is to have war with someone or fight LOL!

Since you dug up some past posts, I clicked on the link you presented; below that, in one of my own comments I said this:

"I appreciate the political discourse and insightful lessons from you Delta. The point still remains (a) the origin of the virus is not established because China is blocking any investigation (b) consequently we also have zero clarity on how it spread and how much of the spread and leak was intentional and unintentional (c) yes, many countries are adversely impacted w. Are. T. Their economies, including China BUT some are impacted much worse than others, and so far the trends are that China is less impacted than its key geopolitical rivals. If you have proof to refute these points, please do present them. Whether China foresaw how the impact would work out and was prepared to sacrifice a few pawns to capture the Queen of its opponent, that I do not know but there is no proof to say such a thing didn't happen. I will let you put probabilities. "

I did see the name Delta Indigo. It has been a long time, I guess that man has not been posting here much, or at least I did not see his name, so I forgot about getting into an argument with him.

But my own comment is quoted above. That was then. I still hold the same exact view. What has changed though is that now the US government is also pushing that view. Here is Biden today:

"As of today, the USA Intelligence Community has 'coalesced around two likely scenarios' but has not reached a definitive conclusion on this question. Here is their current position: 'while two elements in the IC leans toward the former scenario and one leans more toward the latter -- each with low or moderate confidence -- the majority of elements do not believe there is sufficient information to assess one to be more likely than the other,' " Biden said in the statement.

[QUOTE=MrHo;2562965]So church is the reason behind sexual oppression in USA? That kind of make sense why many things are happening as it is happening in USA. I never get how one can put so much value on things that is written 2000 years ago, one can get inspire from it, but to base all your value is not a wise thing in my opinion.

But I also value myself on something that was created even few thousands years ago before that, naked young beautiful stunner LOL! I like to fuck them, that is my religion LOL and believe me, it is very peaceful hobby as after fucking them, the last thing I want is to have war with someone or fight LOL![/QUOTE]Religion is the nominal scapegoat that is the culprit in the US. More universally, it is social the pressure of the herd and the flock needing a shepherd. Basically many people find comfort in being a part of a pack with a leader. In our case, that mantle falls on the church, at least historically. But the mentality has already taken root despite people not being really all that religious.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2562955]I don't remember who is Delta Indigo. I know I had some arguments with you in the past but the ones who stick in my mind very negatively are Gino with the endless Asian entry ban and the more recent not even debate but back and forth insults with a certain slimeball.[/QUOTE]Let the hate run through you. Feel it course through your veins. It gives me great pleasure. Whoops, just creamed my pants. Excuse me while I grab a towel.

After Germany, France also now put under quarantine all UK, even vaccined or negative test, to try to protect versus Indian mutant highly spreading there despite vaccine high rate, when despite brexit, but UK are the closest to EU. Only Spain can t afford anymore to protect. EU put AZ in trial and stop with this vaccine.

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2562770]Advice you to look carefully about the documents provided by Pfister and others to get approved, vaccines prevent you around 50% not to need a ICU bed, but you can get seriously sick for days and weeks. Nevertheless everyone can choose is destiny, I will not taking any risk just to fuck a prostitute, just because I believe it is at very high risk. Just try to understand why so many doctors and nurses even vaccinated are getting sick.[/QUOTE]This is real world data from the results of the British vaccination program, one of the most closely large population monitoring results out there. The western vaccines are unusually effective if not perfect, few other vaccines for other diseases are so good.

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2562778]
Last year, vaccinations were pumped and promoted as 'stopping Covid19,' but now suddenly the narrative has shifted to 'you still get it, but you'll be LESS sick. ' Hahahahaha!

Please explain the "science" that fully 'vaccinated' people will still have to socially distance and wear your face diaper.[/QUOTE]I am not aware any scientist ever claims "vaccinations will stop Covid19", vaccine will be 100% effective. If you have evidence, link please!!

What have you probably seen is that a tabloid exaggerating the news? Keep in mind, the editor of a the tabloid is highly likely not a health expert, or virologist.

Nowadays almost every child/ toddler (if not all) gets various vaccinations. The decision is made by their parents. It does not matter whether later in your life when become an adult you want to reject the vaccine. It is already in your body.

You do not need to be a genius to understand that vaccination will not stop people from getting infection. What it does is to significantly reduce the chance of getting infection. That is the value that we accept and or forced to accept since in our childhood.

[QUOTE=Downandup;2563079]This is real world data from the results of the British vaccination program, one of the most closely large population monitoring results out there. The western vaccines are unusually effective if not perfect, few other vaccines for other diseases are so good.[/QUOTE]Problem is that lots of people (usually the grumpy and paranoid ones) still listen to the likes of our good French doctor Didier Raoult despite the fact that he has been proven wrong constantly since one year.

[QUOTE=Downandup;2563079]This is real world data from the results of the British vaccination program, one of the most closely large population monitoring results out there. The western vaccines are unusually effective if not perfect, few other vaccines for other diseases are so good.[/QUOTE]What I really will never understand, all the figures are looking very positive, efficiency is also there against the Indian variant but more and restriction are put on place for travelers from the UK or India. Why in Marseilles 400+ people already with the 2 doses are sick, why so many doctors and nurses vaccinated are getting sick and some are dying. For me all those vaccines are just as efficient as the normal flue vaccine but life must go on so better to make the people think in the directions of the governments want. Are you aware that all those labs were condemned for bribery.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2562957]Same. The accidental leak seems to be very plausible. But the jump to human virulence does imply that human manipulation played a role.[/QUOTE]The way I interpret the below (removed middle part for sake of brevity): virologists do not yet possess the skill to develop a virulent virus from scratch; they can only take an already virulent virus and make minor tweaks to it. But SARS-CoV-2 does not closely resemble anything they have seen before. Is this not the general negative opinion many hold of Chinese? They cannot develop anything themselves, they only know how to steal technology and make minor tweaks.

The devious ching-chongs could have randomly manipulated the genetic material, trying different combinations until they got lucky. I have no idea what kind of brute force effort or luck would be required. Would it be similar to digital encryption where it would take the fastest supercomputer a million years to crack 256-bit AES encryption?

[QUOTE][b]To genetically engineer a new virus, scientists can combine pieces of viruses they’ve seen before. In the case of a genetically engineered coronavirus that was designed to infect humans, the bulk of its genetic material — its “backbone” — would come from SARS or a close relative, while the tools it used to infect cells would be grafted on. But the backbone doesn’t look like any disease-causing virus, and other key parts of the virus are new to science.[/b]

But, Garry said, the tip of the SARS-CoV-2 spike is unlike anything scientists have seen before, sharing only a single key amino acid with SARS. Modeling suggests that it shouldn’t be able to bind to human lungs well, but the new configuration is about as effective as the optimized SARS.

How SARS-CoV-2 acquired this unusual tip is still a mystery. [b]But blaming it on genetic engineering overstates the abilities of scientists[/b], Garry said. Guessing that these particular amino acids can bind to ACE2 so effectively is nearly impossible— there are 20 common types of amino acids, and tens of millions of ways to arrange them into a binding tip. It would be like if you looked out over the proverbial infinite monkeys with their infinite typewriters, guessed that a specific macaque would type out King Lear, and then picked the right animal.

“Nobody has that kind of insight into how the viruses evolve or cause disease,” said Garry. [b]“You could randomly try to make changes, but we’re talking about thousands of years of trying pathogens out. I’ve been really lucky to know a lot of talented virologists, and they’re not clever enough to come up with a virus that’s quite this good at spreading.”[/b]

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-scientists-think-the-novel-coronavirus-developed-naturally-not-in-a-chinese-lab/.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Mursenary;2562957]Agreed. I know you enough to not be that clever. Pussy! Then again, those sneaky ching chongs. Jkjkjk![/QUOTE]I will leave the leading questions and cross-examination of witnesses to someone like yourself, who is clever enough to think six moves ahead.

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2563126]Why in Marseilles 400+ people already with the 2 doses are sick, why so many doctors and nurses vaccinated are getting sick and some are dying.[/QUOTE]Anyone else hear about the 400+ sick vaccinated people in Marseille? Or the dying doctors and nurses?

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2562955]Are your views aligned with Biden's and Fauci's?[/QUOTE]Fauci simply says they need to investigate the matter further. His exact words when asked if it is possible that the virus is not naturally occuring: "That is a possibility". But he never quantifies how likely or unlikely he believes that possibility to be. Like most scientists, Fauci seems to not like being pinned down. If I am allowed to be pedantic, something can simultaneously be considered both possible and highly unlikely. For instance, one could say that it possible to win the lottery, but also realize that it is highly unlikely.

Apparently Fauci himself does not believe he flip-flopped according to what he told a reporter this Monday:

[QUOTE]Some used Fauci's recent comments about the potential of a lab being the source of COVID-19 as a means of maligning his credibility. [b]Fauci, however, denied he switched his stance on the origin, telling a reporter on Monday that he still believes it's a naturally occurring virus but since it can't be fully proven, he's open to investigating other theories.[/b]

https://www.newsweek.com/timeline-what-dr-fauci-has-said-about-wuhan-lab-covids-origins-1594698
[/QUOTE]In May 2020, Fauci does not speak with absolute certainty. He states that virologists are "strongly leaning" toward the virus being naturally occuring.

[QUOTE]"There's two issues. If you look at the evolution of the virus in bats, and what's out there now it's very, very strongly leaning toward this virus could not have been artificially or deliberately manipulated—the way the mutations have naturally evolved. A number of very qualified evolutionary biologists have said that everything about the stepwise evolution over time strongly indicates that it evolved in nature and then jumped species"[/QUOTE]Biden says the the IC has coalesced around two scenarios: naturally occurring or lab accident. This is EXACTLY what the Director of National Intelligence said in May 2020. And what I concurred with in May 2020.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2563245]Fauci simply says they need to investigate the matter further. His exact words when asked if it is possible that the virus is not naturally occuring: "That is a possibility". But he never quantifies how likely or unlikely he believes that possibility to be. Like most scientists, Fauci seems to not like being pinned down. If I am allowed to be pedantic, something can simultaneously be considered both possible and highly unlikely. For instance, one could say that it possible to win the lottery, but also realize that it is highly unlikely.

Apparently Fauci himself does not believe he flip-flopped according to what he told a reporter this Monday:

In May 2020, Fauci does not speak with absolute certainty. He states that virologists are "strongly leaning" toward the virus being naturally occuring.

Biden says the the IC has coalesced around two scenarios: naturally occurring or lab accident. This is EXACTLY what the Director of National Intelligence said in May 2020. And what I concurred with in May 2020.[/QUOTE]Everyone can judge if Fauci did flip and flop or not. He is an honorable man but even he will not admit a mistake publicly, few people do. Even the way you characterized his statements (I am too lazy to data check all your quotes), it was totally irresponsible on his part then to have (a) washed his hands off the matter by pointing to other virologists (b) even if that was a strong chance, it was not 100% chance and something that could be so egregiously horrible needed to be investigated to the last detail and not evading responsibility by pointing to the views of other virologists.

Since you are a scientist I believe, at least the slimeball implied it and also claimed the same status for himself (don't remember if his pimp was also a scientist), when you presented your scientific conclusions, did you do it with "I think X is almost 95% certain, probably 99% certain because that's what my gut tells me" (about Chinese authorities in this case) but whatever is the appropriate gut instinct in the proof you are presenting? QED.

So, there is a chance a genocide may have been committed. I don't know if it is 1% chance, 2% chance 0. 01% chance. Even back in May 2020, I had said "I will let you put the probabilities". Are you claiming it is 0% chance? If so, please present your evidence, and something more than whatever you think are commonsense arguments and gut instincts.

If it is a non zero chance, I want to know how you decided it is not worth pursuing and worth turning a blind eye to. You made some laughable excuse that because Hua Wei's business was killed in reaction to the Covid crime (it was not; Hua Wei was considered for entity list from 2019 itself, and Meng Wangzhou was arrested in 2018). In your view, a genocide and business sanctions on a criminal enterprise make it even stevens.

Even when a solitary murder is committed, are police expected to drop a lead because in their view, that lead is not very likely? But here, you kept arguing China was absolutely unlikely to have leaked the virus intentionally (note: a deliberate leak does not need to come from Xi himself. Could be a rogue element in the lab somewhere). In fact, it would be nice to hear that you are even supportive of a proper, open, no limit, investigation w / o the interference of the CCP thugs.

I don't have any doubt you will again be evasive as usual and pick and harp on some totally irrelevant point and play to your gallery. Anyway, that is your prerogative.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2563238]Anyone else hear about the 400+ sick vaccinated people in Marseille? Or the dying doctors and nurses?[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5ksZgwL7BA&ab_channel=IHUM%C3%A9diterran%C3%A9e-InfectionIHUM%C3%A9diterran%C3%A9e-Infection[/URL]

It is from 10 of mai now it is 400+, just as a small reminder IHU Marseilles is the team which published the most on viruses and covid.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2563238]Anyone else hear about the 400+ sick vaccinated people in Marseille? Or the dying doctors and nurses?[/QUOTE]The 400 figure comes from Didier Raoult, the famous French doctor who is always wrong and constantly craving for attention. And it's 400 infected or positive but they don't all have symptoms. The good doctor is carefully avoiding to say if they are really afflicted or not.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2563245]Fauci simply says they need to investigate the matter further. His exact words when asked if it is possible that the virus is not naturally occuring: "That is a possibility". But he never quantifies how likely or unlikely he believes that possibility to be. Like most scientists, Fauci seems to not like being pinned down. If I am allowed to be pedantic, something can simultaneously be considered both possible and highly unlikely. For instance, one could say that it possible to win the lottery, but also realize that it is highly unlikely.

Apparently Fauci himself does not believe he flip-flopped according to what he told a reporter this Monday:

In May 2020, Fauci does not speak with absolute certainty. He states that virologists are "strongly leaning" toward the virus being naturally occuring.

Biden says the the IC has coalesced around two scenarios: naturally occurring or lab accident. This is EXACTLY what the Director of National Intelligence said in May 2020. And what I concurred with in May 2020.[/QUOTE]Precise and detailed as usual. However, I personally think we will never find patient 0 and know exactly where Covid originated. It may not even have originated in China, given its ability to transmit (via aerosol) and therefore spread exponentially around the world. For other types of viruses, identifying patient 0 is easier. E. g. The outbreak of Chapare virus in Colombia in 2020 was contained very well as soon as the virus acquired the ability to transmit from human to human. This is because that particular virus only transmits via contact and the spread is therefore much slower. I think they have even identified patient 0 now.

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2563126]What I really will never understand, all the figures are looking very positive, efficiency is also there against the Indian variant but more and restriction are put on place for travelers from the UK or India. Why in Marseilles 400+ people already with the 2 doses are sick, why so many doctors and nurses vaccinated are getting sick and some are dying. For me all those vaccines are just as efficient as the normal flue vaccine but life must go on so better to make the people think in the directions of the governments want. Are you aware that all those labs were condemned for bribery.[/QUOTE]In Europe you are, on average, 30 times more likely to be murdered than having a serious reaction to AstraZeneca Covid vaccine, just to put things into perspective.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2563238]Anyone else hear about the 400+ sick vaccinated people in Marseille? Or the dying doctors and nurses?[/QUOTE]

Oppps Only 400? and only a few dying doctors and nurses !!! lol. Considering millions of people have been vaccinated in France it should be more is it not??

I think I know what has happened. The nurses is getting jab by an infected patient using a special syringe from e.g., the patient private part. The vaccine is also very special as it comes directly from the patient private part. Other nurses then keeps getting jab by the doctors and other patients so they are all have been vaccinated.

Those who are sensible and have evidence that could stand scrutiny will see this as a golden opportunity to make money if the news has not been covered elsewhere.

Those who have evidence about 400+ sick vaccinated people or the dying doctors and nurses in Marseille sell news to the newspaper to make money.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2563217]The way I interpret the below (removed middle part for sake of brevity): virologists do not yet possess the skill to develop a virulent virus from scratch; they can only take an already virulent virus and make minor tweaks to it. But SARS-CoV-2 does not closely resemble anything they have seen before. Is this not the general negative opinion many hold of Chinese? They cannot develop anything themselves, they only know how to steal technology and make minor tweaks.

The devious ching-chongs could have randomly manipulated the genetic material, trying different combinations until they got lucky. I have no idea what kind of brute force effort or luck would be required. Would it be similar to digital encryption where it would take the fastest supercomputer a million years to crack 256-bit AES encryption?

I will leave the leading questions and cross-examination of witnesses to someone like yourself, who is clever enough to think six moves ahead.[/QUOTE]The second half of the passage ignores one thing: The Shotgun Approach.

I've been out of the lab for over 10 years so am not up to date on the minutia of the current tech, but even back then, if you wanted to create a complimentary protein that binds to a receptor, it could be done by sequencing the amino acid chain with a specific region that has affinity for the receptor. While predicting how an amino acid chain would fold into its final protein form is quite a challenge, you would not have to do it with precision. Instead, you create numerous candidate amino acid chains containing that specific region, then you isolate the ones with affinity to the receptor using various methods such as tagging it with a fluorescent antibody. Once isolated, you just reverse sequence the corresponding DNA / rna sequence and insert it in your new virus using the most appropriate delivery vector for that virus. The rest is just the nuts and bolts of ensuring that your new virus expresses the protein. That's the theory anyway.

Anyway, the Chinese have the resources. Most state universities with a top tier microbiology department do. I just question why the Chinese would purposefully unleash a plan like that. Considering their new found formidable yet insecure position on the world stage, they had too much to lose to risk such a devious plan.

As for type of research they might have been conducting, all sorts of reasons exists. Outside of purposefully engineering a bioweapon, it could have even been an altruistic venture such as creating an inert protein that neutralizes the pathogenicity of a future SARS virus. After all, that region of the world have been dealing those types of endemics for quite a while, which each new strain having the potential for more severe disease. At any step leading to a final product, there could have been all sorts of steps from original virus to a final beneficial strand with intermediaries having unintended pathogenic properties. Such is the process of scientific development that the general public does not consider. It's sexier to go straight to the narrative of good versus evil, us versus them, rather than chalking things up to mere incompetence.

It's human nature to believe there is a plan devised by a more powerful authority. In a way it gives them comfort. It's much scarier for people to think that we are floating around with no plan or purpose. It's the basis of religion. Most people don't want to believe that they are insignificant.

[QUOTE=RockyV;2563291]Precise and detailed as usual. However, I personally think we will never find patient 0 and know exactly where Covid originated. It may not even have originated in China, given its ability to transmit (via aerosol) and therefore spread exponentially around the world.[/QUOTE]Point of contention and a personal one as it affects my daily life with PPE requirements.

It's not actually aerosol. It's mainly droplet. By happenstance, it may become aerosolized temporarily under high pressure such as sneezes or medical respiratory devices.

Main point, it being a droplet disease, simple face coverings prevent most transmission. Transient aerosolization (becoming airborne) happens buy that's not the actual mode of transmission. All that focus on sanitizing surfaces and wearing full hazmat suits is quite a waste of resources. That is unless people are sucking the air from other people's sneezes or licking surfaces after an infected person recently just coughed on it.

Get vaccinated or just plop on a simple face covering and transmission would be negligible.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2563278]Since you are a scientist I believe,[/QUOTE]He's not.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2563278]at least the slimeball implied it and also claimed the same status for himself (don't remember if his pimp was also a scientist)[/QUOTE]Former scientist. But weren't you the one who went on and on about how I'm *just* a lowly researcher? Respect and love to my research scientists out there!

But I'm not the type of slimeball that pledged "fealty" to another human in front of state or religious officials (perhaps both) only to betray the trust of the co-parent to his progeny. Shame on you, you sinner.

Slimeball, LOL. What a boomer word.

Why would China release the virus?

I'm not saying that China did purposely release the virus, but let's have a look at the numbers.

[URL]https://tradingeconomics.com/china/gdp-growth-annual[/URL]

[URL]https://tradingeconomics.com/germany/gdp-growth[/URL]

Let's see what's happening in the world, and the connection between Chinese vaccines, growing influence, PR victories and expensive loans.

[URL]https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-05-26/-comrade-xi-statue-serbia-wants-to-thank-its-friends-in-china[/URL]

[URL]https://www.google.se/amp/s/www.rferl.org/amp/china-in-eurasia-hungary-montenegro-standish/31238707.html[/URL]

[URL]https://apnews.com/article/sao-paulo-china-coronavirus-pandemic-business-global-trade-b455cc11c8a971fd1b72230e3b6be7b3[/URL]

OK here are two sets of statements from Fauci:

"If you look at the evolution of the virus in bats and what's out there now, the scientific evidence is very, very strongly leaning toward this could not have been artificially or deliberately manipulated. Everything about the stepwise evolution over time strongly indicates that this virus evolved in nature and then jumped species," Fauci says.

[URL]https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/anthony-fauci-no-scientific-evidence-the-coronavirus-was-made-in-a-chinese-lab-cvd[/URL]

And now; Dr Fauci in May 2021:

"I am not convinced about that," he added. "I think we should continue to investigate what went on in China until we continue to find out to the best of our ability what happened. ".

He continued: "Certainly, the people who investigated it say it likely was the emergence from an animal reservoir that then infected individuals, but it could have been something else, and we need to find that out. So, you know, that's the reason why I said I'm perfectly in favor of any investigation that looks into the origin of the virus."

Yes, entirely consistent. That is what MacAdonis says.

I am perfectly happy if Fauci changes his views. When new evidence comes in, a good scientist changes his views. But McA claims Fauci did not change his views. Do the two sets of statements above sound identical? To McA perhaps.

Here is McA's evasion: In May 2020 when I argued with you, the dispute was not whether it could have originated in a lab. You conceded it was not impossible then.

But McA maintained categorically that it was impossible that China deliberately leaked it. From Xi himself or a rogue actor. Period. Impossible. How did he know?

If a genocide occurred, however remote chance it might have been, we are supposed to go with the gut instinct of sino apologists that it is impossible for China to ever have taken such a rogue action. After all the regime that killed millions of their own citizens in past purges and who threatens Taiwan everyday and purged thousands in Tibet and Xinjiang, is incapable of such atrocity, as per these people. So, we should abide by the gut instincts of sino apologists and assume that a deliberate leak never happened.

However, there are people who would want to get to the bottom of this and not necessarily take the word of CCP rogue regime about a potential genocide. That unfortunately does not appeal to the sino apologists (whoever they may be).

From the far rightwing rag aka MIT Tech Review:

[URL]https://www.technologyreview.com/2021/03/26/1021263/bat-covid-coronavirus-cause-origin-wuhan/[/URL]

"It's important to know how the pandemic started, because after killing more than 2. 5 million people and causing trillions of dollars in economic losses, it's not over. The virus may well be establishing itself in new species, like wild rabbits or even house pets. Learning how the pandemic began could help health experts avert the next one, or at least react more swiftly.

We know that the payoffs of origin hunting are real. After the 2003 SARS outbreak, researchers started building up a big knowledge base about this type of virus. That knowledge is what turbocharged the development process for vaccines against the new coronavirus in early 2020.

One price of the politically charged atmosphere is that an entire year passed before WHO origins investigators got on the ground, arriving in January for a closely chaperoned trip. "It's a year later, so you have to ask what took so long," says Alan Schnur, a former WHO epidemiologist in China who helped track the original SARS outbreak. During that year, memories faded and so did antibodies, possibly erasing key clues. ".

Again and again, it comes back to the same thing: Who has an incentive to erase evidence of a crime? Who has the incentive to obstruct investigation? Why are so many sino apologists so supportive of that rogue regime, a regime that may have directly or negligently perpetrated a genocide? Why do these apologists have so little regard for human life but work super hard to absolve the rogue regime of any culpability?

(this is addressed to sino apologists, whoever they may be).

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2563314]Why would China release the virus?

I'm not saying that China did purposely release the virus, but let's have a look at the numbers.

[URL]https://tradingeconomics.com/china/gdp-growth-annual[/URL]

[URL]https://tradingeconomics.com/germany/gdp-growth[/URL]

Let's see what's happening in the world, and the connection between Chinese vaccines, growing influence, PR victories and expensive loans.

[URL]https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-05-26/-comrade-xi-statue-serbia-wants-to-thank-its-friends-in-china[/URL]

[URL]https://www.google.se/amp/s/www.rferl.org/amp/china-in-eurasia-hungary-montenegro-standish/31238707.html[/URL]

[URL]https://apnews.com/article/sao-paulo-china-coronavirus-pandemic-business-global-trade-b455cc11c8a971fd1b72230e3b6be7b3[/URL][/QUOTE]Obviously they have benefitted. Their attempts at burying the story late in 2019 should result in reparations to the world of some sort whether the source was zoonotic, accidental, or intentional.

Hey, maybe they did release it intentionally. That cannot be 100% ruled out. But temporary economic growth when they were already in a position of strength and gaining favor with then Serbian Communist party hardly seems worth becoming more of a pariah to their geographic neighbors and to western nations, especially when it is completely contrary to their previous decades of power sequestration that was characterized by stepwise and precise methods.

Logic would suggest that if they were to commit an act of global mass murder, they would do it when they were either in a position of desperation or if they saw an opportunity to deal a finishing blow to their rivals. Neither of those were / are the reality.

Investigating the source is warranted. Demanding accountability is warranted. But accusing without proper evidence is just detrimental warmongering speak.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2563303]The second half of the passage ignores one thing: The Shotgun Approach[/QUOTE]Video and transcript: [URL]https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-lab-manmade-myth-debunked-2020-6?r=DE&IR=T[/URL].

Creating the backbone of a virulent virus from scratch is virtually impossible. So the only known way to produce a new deadly virus inside of a lab is to use an existing backbone. The recycled backbone approach allows for two options.

[QUOTE][b]Simply, there is just not enough knowledge about how to make a new virus that would also cause significant devastation, like SARS-CoV-2 has. So creating a new, deadly backbone is pretty much impossible. But there is another way the novel coronavirus could have been created in a lab, and that would be using an existing virus backbone or genetic sequence as a starting point[/b][/QUOTE]Existing backbone, option one: random additions, deletions:

[QUOTE]They could've either quickly mutated it, or added and deleted parts of the existing virus. But additions and deletions in a virus leave a trace that can be pointed out pretty quickly, a little bit like removing a red brick from a wall and replacing it with a black brick.[/QUOTE]Existing backbone, option two, mutating an existing virus:

[QUOTE]This is known as serial passage and acts in a similar way to selective breeding. Scientists are able to mimic evolution, to a degree. By forcing the virus to mutate over and over again into a potentially different form. This can be used to weaken a virus, which is how some vaccines have been made, or to strengthen a virus, say, by making it more transmissible.

But for this to work, the existing virus would have to show significant genetic similarity to the new virus. In fact, they would have to be almost identical. Yet Garry and his team found that the backbone for SARS-CoV-2 was strictly unique, differing significantly from other coronaviruses. The best candidate is RaTG13, a bat coronavirus with a 96% gene sequence similarity. .[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2563283]The 400 figure comes from Didier Raoult, the famous French doctor who is always wrong and constantly craving for attention. And it's 400 infected or positive but they don't all have symptoms. The good doctor is carefully avoiding to say if they are really afflicted or not.[/QUOTE]Yeah, just saw ExPat's video.

In summary, it broke down the roughly 9555 positive cases in what I assume to be found in that region from 7. Jan to 7. May. 350 of those were vaccinated with only 40 having had both jabs (not all 350). The video further goes on to breakdown the nature of the cases. His data suggests that the ratio of symptomatic cases and hospitalizations were the same when comparing vaccinated people with at least one vaccine dose to the unvaccinated population.

Giving the publisher of video the benefit of the doubt in regards to data accuracy since they did not cite sources; and ExPat the benefit in regards to the oversight of claiming that 400 people with 2 doses tested positive when only 40 had received both, the good news from the video was that of the the 9555 covid+ cases, only 40 were found in fully vaccinated people.

Of those 40, only 4 showed symptoms. That means that only 10% of fully vaccinated covid+ people even show symptoms. Unfortunately, it did not discuss the severity of symptoms in the fully vaccinated, so maybe 0% hospitalized?

In comparison, of the 9205 non-vaccinated covid+ cases, 8747 showed symptoms. That's a 95% chance of having symptoms when you are not vaccinated get infected compared to only 10% when you are fully vaccinated. That means getting vaccinated reduces your chance of showing symptoms by 9. 5 x.

Thank you ExPat for sharing such good news about vaccine efficacy!

P.S. I'm kinda impressed with myself for extracted the information from a video spoken and written totally in French. Bravo me.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2562962]The WHO says so. No evidence to think otherwise.

[URL]https://www.dw.com/en/covid-vaccines-effective-against-all-known-variants-says-who/a-57600323[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks for posting that DW link to the WHO report on J&J. Vielen Dank!

Patient 0 and patient 1 was found dead in a bat cave in Yunnan province in 2015. It was formerly a mining cave. This is a fact! Then the researchers (some Satanista) brought the virus samples from the cave to the Wuhan lab.

And there they ran the virus through the petri dish experiments multiple times in order to test different mutations. Thus speeding up the normal mutation process by tens of thousands of years. And at the end of the gain of function lab tests, we had covid19.

USA funded it:

[URL]https://www.businesstoday.in/current/economy-politics/shocking-us-gave-37-million-to-chinas-wuhan-lab-that-conducted-coronavirus-tests-on-bats/story/400831.html[/URL]

And France (especially funded by billionaire Alan Mérieux) conducted the training of the researchers:

[URL]https://www.mediapart.fr/en/journal/france/310520/strange-saga-how-france-helped-build-wuhans-top-security-virus-lab?_locale=en&onglet=full[/URL]

And we all know China did the whole coverup.

This is a true collaborative effort in order to both reduce the human population, create methods of control and implement a modern financial system aligned with modern and future automation, blockchain and AI technology.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2563313]He's not.

Former scientist. But weren't you the one who went on and on about how I'm *just* a lowly researcher? Respect and love to my research scientists out there!

But I'm not the type of slimeball that pledged "fealty" to another human in front of state or religious officials (perhaps both) only to betray the trust of the co-parent to his progeny. Shame on you, you sinner.

Slimeball, LOL. What a boomer word.[/QUOTE]I have enormous respect for researchers, more so for the productive ones; and wish they would get paid more especially the ones doing truly fundamental research in academia. I have a couple of friends, extremely bright people, who spent years in lowly paid post doc roles. I did not insult you because you are a lowly researcher, I claimed you were a researcher and not a physician. That was a deduction. If I am wrong in my deduction, so be it.

I have no doubt I am a sleazeball myself for doing what I am doing, but I cover my tracks well and one can't be hurt by what they do not know. Not a rationalization, just a fact so far. And you would have more credibility with your insults if you demonstrated that you stayed loyal after 15+ years of marriage but you can't. From Gates and Bezos on, many men I respect have cheated; at least in my defense I am good in terms of my support and deeds otherwise.

Boomer. Whatever. In a year, you would have reached that status yourself and one of the things you pride most about yourself would be gone, forever. Poor baby.

There have however for years been a shift towards liberalizing and legalizing the p6 law. And even rewriting what constitutes a pimp. Mainly among the youth parties, as the divide between the young generation z and the boomers / get why seems to be a strong one in this case. That is how all the right wing parties shifted. And it seems to be the trend across the left side also, just that it takes longer there.

There is also a joke sentiment to everything related to Swedish politics sometimes. So being anti Swedish can even be an argument of itself when we see the swedes be naive.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2563217]The way I interpret the below (removed middle part for sake of brevity): virologists do not yet possess the skill to develop a virulent virus from scratch; they can only take an already virulent virus and make minor tweaks to it. But SARS-CoV-2 does not closely resemble anything they have seen before. Is this not the general negative opinion many hold of Chinese? They cannot develop anything themselves, they only know how to steal technology and make minor tweaks.

The devious ching-chongs could have randomly manipulated the genetic material, trying different combinations until they got lucky. I have no idea what kind of brute force effort or luck would be required. Would it be similar to digital encryption where it would take the fastest supercomputer a million years to crack 256-bit AES encryption?

I will leave the leading questions and cross-examination of witnesses to someone like yourself, who is clever enough to think six moves ahead.[/QUOTE]To clarify, my gut instinct is that it actually does have a natural origin. I just meant to say that artificial engineering is *possible* if one were to take a Shotgun Approach to modifying an already evolved virus, not to create one from scratch.

I'll add my personal hunch of what I think actually happened leading up to December 2019, given all the probabilities and possibilities. Considering all of the other acquired traits of this virus (such as efficient human antibody evasion), it evolved naturally from animal to humans in a less pathogenic form. Over time, it acquired various traits that allowed it to infect the host without much harm to the host (That's parasite life 101). After some period of relatively dormant virulence, a more lethal strain eventually popped up in natural human circulation. At this point, it began its spread to God knows how far. (Donated blood in the United States from December 2019 already showed cases of SARS-CoV2 antibodies, which means that the virus was circulating around much earlier, at least since October 2019.)

The Chinese government or even maybe just the WIV itself likely had isolated the virus prior to the Wuhan outbreak and were likely already studying it. All of the other tidbits about labs leaks and bioweapons may be possible, but scientifically plausible? I'm not so sure. It could be just as likely that as the scientists in Wuhan were studying the virus, they became infected and jumpstarted the spread. Even this simple goof would cause to Chinese government to cover it up to "save face. " Given their history, protecting their image of control and competency is completely consistent with their modus operandi.

Well, we all know who in USA politically benefited from the Covid virus. So just follow the trail and you can easily find why half of the US politicians were against going after China all of last year. Funny that same half is now trying to come clean LOL.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2563334]Obviously they have benefitted. Their attempts at burying the story late in 2019 should result in reparations to the world of some sort whether the source was zoonotic, accidental, or intentional..[/QUOTE]JB Hunt insures each of their truckers for a million. Often that is not enough. It is one of the largest trucking companies in the country. I think the average award in a serious accident against jB Hunt is a bit more than half a million dollars, as I recall. Serious accident but not death. And that half a million is averaged over several dozens of accidents, probably hundreds. If I recall right, each year, JB Hunt drivers are involved in causing a couple of dozen fatal accidents and the awards in those cases are much higher. If a young 40 year old high earning dad or mom is killed by a reckless JBHT driver, it ruins their family forever. Awards could be in dozens of millions in such instances. Sometimes these amounts are big enough that it impacts their quarterly earnings result.

What shall be the reparation for intentional or even more benign, reckless death of several million people around the world. Could be dozens of millions if accounted properly. Let me do the math: even an award of a million per capita for 5 million people means 5 trillion dollars.

If indeed this was deliberate, how is that not a crime against humanity? We tried Nazis at Nuremberg and later some were hung.

And no, we are only accusing the regime of culpably obstructing investigations. It is not an irresponsible accusation nor is it war mongering. Biden and Fauci had shut down prior investigation but now evidence is too damning, so they reopened it.

Accusing Chinese regime is not the same as being racist against Asian Americans or any Asians. The latter is reprehensible, the former is absolutely warranted.

One of the reasons we have NPT nuclear nonproliferation treaties is that dirt bombs may not fall into the hands of terrorists. Accidentally having nuclear bombs leak into the hands of rogue elements makes the leaker just as responsible as someone who sells the bomb to a terrorist. To the people who die in the bombing, it is no comfort to know that the bomb that killed them was obtained through an accidental leak and not through a greedy sale.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2563398]Well, we all know who in USA politically benefited from the Covid virus. So just follow the trail and you can easily find why half of the US politicians were against going after China all of last year. Funny that same half is now trying to come clean LOL.[/QUOTE]What stopped Trump from really going after China in 2020? Other than coming up with Kung flu to appease his easily amused masses, he took zero action whatsoever. Too bad his thugs could not overturn the election for him on Jan 6.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2563383]I have enormous respect for researchers, more so for the productive ones; and wish they would get paid more especially the ones doing truly fundamental research in academia. I have a couple of friends, extremely bright people, who spent years in lowly paid post doc roles. I did not insult you because you are a lowly researcher, I claimed you were a researcher and not a physician. That was a deduction. If I am wrong in my deduction, so be it.

I have no doubt I am a sleazeball myself for doing what I am doing, but I cover my tracks well and one can't be hurt by what they do not know. Not a rationalization, just a fact so far. And you would have more credibility with your insults if you demonstrated that you stayed loyal after 15+ years of marriage but you can't. From Gates and Bezos on, many men I respect have cheated; at least in my defense I am good in terms of my support and deeds otherwise.

Boomer. Whatever. In a year, you would have reached that status yourself and one of the things you pride most about yourself would be gone, forever. Poor baby.[/QUOTE]I have all the room to talk because I knew to not make that empty promise in the first place. Making promises you can't keep is nothing to be proud of dude.

If you can lie to the person you most love, your life partner, your teammate, you can lie to anyone. That is why you're the type that can't be trusted, ever. 15 years of marriage and a lifetime of infidelity. Yet here you are, calling someone else a slime ball. Your words have no meaning. You're just another cookie cutter, life by the recipe, color by numbers, corporate dork.

Nah man, the older I get, the better I get. Except that damn shoulder. Bugger's been giving me fits! Anyway, I'm getting some salt and pepper grays on the side. It looks great!

The thing I most pride myself are my personal relationships. Honest relationships. Mutually beneficial relationships. Entertaining relationships. Unique Relationships between people with interesting life experiences and worldviews. You on the other hand seem to be a generic slave of corporate institutions with a low "interesting human" factor. A blah human. In fact, that would be the best name for you, Blah. As in, no real personality. Certainly no character, no interesting hobbies, no interesting stories, no interesting experiences, no interesting points of views. Just a Blah human living a Blah life with Blah expectations. The movie American Beauty comes to mind when I imagine how boring your miserable life must be.

Have a good day Blah. Or a Blah day, whatever.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2563347]Video and transcript: [URL]https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-lab-manmade-myth-debunked-2020-6?r=DE&IR=T[/URL].

Creating the backbone of a virulent virus from scratch is virtually impossible. So the only known way to produce a new deadly virus inside of a lab is to use an existing backbone. The recycled backbone approach allows for two options.

Existing backbone, option one: random additions, deletions:

Existing backbone, option two, mutating an existing virus:[/QUOTE]See my addendum that posted after your reply. The original just explained how China could feasibly have modified a more virulent virus if that was the intention. I agree that evolution in nature and circulation is the more likely course. Isolating the virus and causing a local lab leak in heavily populated Wuhan is also entirely plausible. Manipulation of a less virulent strain found in nature is also possible. Like your paper states, there are many adaptations in the virus that likely developed during normal circulation in a population. The spike protein however seemed inconsistent with expectations, hence the Shotgun Approach theory, I. E. Selective Kitchen Sink.

But again, refer to my reply for my actual suspicions.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2563386]There have however for years been a shift towards liberalizing and legalizing the p6 law. And even rewriting what constitutes a pimp. Mainly among the youth parties, as the divide between the young generation z and the boomers / get why seems to be a strong one in this case. That is how all the right wing parties shifted. And it seems to be the trend across the left side also, just that it takes longer there.

There is also a joke sentiment to everything related to Swedish politics sometimes. So being anti Swedish can even be an argument of itself when we see the swedes be naive.[/QUOTE]Why am I getting censored so heavily? This is ridiculous!

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2563305]Point of contention and a personal one as it affects my daily life with PPE requirements.

It's not actually aerosol. It's mainly droplet. By happenstance, it may become aerosolized temporarily under high pressure such as sneezes or medical respiratory devices.

Main point, it being a droplet disease, simple face coverings prevent most transmission. Transient aerosolization (becoming airborne) happens buy that's not the actual mode of transmission. All that focus on sanitizing surfaces and wearing full hazmat suits is quite a waste of resources. That is unless people are sucking the air from other people's sneezes or licking surfaces after an infected person recently just coughed on it.

Get vaccinated or just plop on a simple face covering and transmission would be negligible.[/QUOTE]Clinical precision, as usual!

Kind of stuff which can happen when the anti vaxxers get totally freaking nuts:

[URL]https://abcnews.go.com/US/tennessee-woman-arrested-speeding-covid-19-vaccination-tent/story?id=77937352&cid=social_twitter_abcn[/URL]#CS1-6.

Amateurs always go by gut instinct. This is another fact.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2563413]If indeed this was deliberate, how is that not a crime against humanity? We tried Nazis at Nuremberg and later some were hung.[/QUOTE]If deliberate, who said it wouldn't be?

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2563413]And no, we are only accusing the regime of culpably obstructing investigations. It is not an irresponsible accusation nor is it war mongering.[/QUOTE]Perhaps you, but not the other.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2563413]Accusing Chinese regime is not the same as being racist against Asian Americans or any Asians.[/QUOTE]Who said it was?

Do better Blah.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2563484]Why am I getting censored so heavily? This is ridiculous![/QUOTE]Baby needs his binkie. Must have missed his nap.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2563543]Amateurs always go by gut instinct. This is another fact.[/QUOTE]Not sure you know the meaning of the word fact.

Amateurs usually go by textbook protocol. That is a hallmark of novices. People not even on the field of play however often try to act like infallible experts. See "Armchair Quarterback".

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2563565]If deliberate, who said it wouldn't be?[/QUOTE]The person to whose butt you are so firmly attached claims the chance of it being deliberate is 0%. Your own statements have been suspiciously supportive of the CCP regime in this thread. When a doofus claims no investigation is warranted because it could never have happened, then the claim "if it was indeed deliberate, we are supportive of holding them responsible" is useless. You will never establish the culpability w / o an investigation and McA's posts have not demanded any investigations but he has posted several comments justifying his view that the cuddly Xi regime could never have done that (and so have you).

It is fine if you guys feel some allegiance to some ancestral lands but that won't change the responsibility for the genocide perpetrated by those mass murderers if they had indeed leaked it deliberately. Even an accidental leak would mean they killed millions around the world through their sheer incompetence and negligence.

Anyway, it is useless to discuss these things with a street thug like you.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2563565]If deliberate, who said it wouldn't be?

Perhaps you, but not the other.

Who said it was?

Do better Blah.[/QUOTE]And as usual, you (and MCA. Just as I predicted0 are evasive. The question was about reparations. You made the claim that some reparations are warranted and in the past, your solution was that in return for the crime of murdering millions around the world, China should give a vaccine (that does not even work) for free. McA of course came up with his "they already suffered enough because Hua Wei was punished' theory. Unreal.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2563422]I have all the room to talk because I knew to not make that empty promise in the first place. Making promises you can't keep is nothing to be proud of dude.

If you can lie to the person you most love, your life partner, your teammate, you can lie to anyone. That is why you're the type that can't be trusted, ever. 15 years of marriage and a lifetime of infidelity. Yet here you are, calling someone else a slime ball. Your words have no meaning. You're just another cookie cutter, life by the recipe, color by numbers, corporate dork.

Nah man, the older I get, the better I get. Except that damn shoulder. Bugger's been giving me fits! Anyway, I'm getting some salt and pepper grays on the side. It looks great!

The thing I most pride myself are my personal relationships. Honest relationships. Mutually beneficial relationships. Entertaining relationships. Unique Relationships between people with interesting life experiences and worldviews. You on the other hand seem to be a generic slave of corporate institutions with a low "interesting human" factor. A blah human. In fact, that would be the best name for you, Blah. As in, no real personality. Certainly no character, no interesting hobbies, no interesting stories, no interesting experiences, no interesting points of views. Just a Blah human living a Blah life with Blah expectations. The movie American Beauty comes to mind when I imagine how boring your miserable life must be.

Have a good day Blah. Or a Blah day, whatever.[/QUOTE]Oh brother. Well, you got one thing right, I am pretty happy to be boring. Most people have boring, normal lives. You appear to be one of those dysfunctional people who lives on the edge and thinks borderline kooky behavior makes you look interesting. You will only spiral down in life. And what fucking relationships do you have? With the hookers you bang for 50? I bet you get sentimental and have endless chats with the WGs in the clubs and thinks that implies they love you. Hint: they don't. It is just a pre-sales pitch for their next heist on you; I would not be surprised if you love all the Asian hunters too.

Considering you worship the CCP regime, it is certainly strange that you think corporations are slave owners. Well, in our case, we are a small sized firm in the scheme of things, but America runs on its corporations. By your definition, most Americans are slaves and some slave owners. And yet you love the CCP. Interesting.

Speaking of old movies, you remind me of the Anne Hathaway character in Rachel Getting Married: high on drugs (check), borderline psychotic (check, but more than borderline), and destroying everyone in their family (most likely, if you are being honest but you will not be), and thinks her / his life is interesting (if being a street thug is interesting).

Enjoy the facts:

[URL]https://youtu.be/8h2h3HNTnIc[/URL]

This guy is summing up quite a few things I have posted here for a very long time now! So I will just save you some time given he complied a couple of dousin good sources into one good video!

Ofcourse China Uncensored is a anti Chinese youtube channel. But it is mainly 80-90% correct in all they fish up. Including this report. Or especially this report. Weather or not Peter Daszak was in on the leakage and planned it alongside the French businessman and a couple of Chinese among others is not something he can rule out though. But given the political stance of the channel, he has to. But it clearly is a bioweapon even if some people in all of this had no idea.

As always I am right and the Satanists are wrong (even if they are woefully unaware of being satanists themselves).

Fauci also lied:

[URL]https://youtu.be/tvomW4IkPN0[/URL]

Again, all politics. Machiavellianism. And the idiots eat it for breakfast every time! Suddenly when things are 'debunked' (LOL what a word), the sheeples come up and nearly admit it. Just not totally. But the dick cutter snakes sacrificers here might just as well start. At least since there is not much of a dick they can cut off on themselves anyway.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2563621]Oh brother. Well, you got one thing right, I am pretty happy to be boring. Most people have boring, normal lives. You appear to be one of those dysfunctional people who lives on the edge and thinks borderline kooky behavior makes you look interesting. You will only spiral down in life. And what fucking relationships do you have? With the hookers you bang for 50? I bet you get sentimental and have endless chats with the WGs in the clubs and thinks that implies they love you. Hint: they don't. It is just a pre-sales pitch for their next heist on you; I would not be surprised if you love all the Asian hunters too.

Considering you worship the CCP regime, it is certainly strange that you think corporations are slave owners. Well, in our case, we are a small sized firm in the scheme of things, but America runs on its corporations. By your definition, most Americans are slaves and some slave owners. And yet you love the CCP. Interesting.

Speaking of old movies, you remind me of the Anne Hathaway character in Rachel Getting Married: high on drugs (check), borderline psychotic (check, but more than borderline), and destroying everyone in their family (most likely, if you are being honest but you will not be), and thinks her / his life is interesting (if being a street thug is interesting).[/QUOTE]Pretty happy with my friends and family. And yeah, I also love dem ho's.

No kooky behavior, my life stories and experiences makes me interesting. No eccentricity needed.

You think "cookie cutter corporate dork is just a criticism of corporations? No dude, it's a criticism of your Blah personality. I'm a capitalist and an entrepreneur, corporations are fine by me. People who let the corporate mindset sink into their personal lives? Well those are slaves. Dude, you're a slave.

You seem to be able to think from only one perspective, your profession. Your mind only has one level. Anyway, the emphasis was the word "dork". You're just a boring dork who can only see society from one single angle shaped by your very boring thoughts and experiences. In millennial girl terms, they would call you a Basic.

I don't watch a lot of Anne Hathaway movies. No clue what you're referencing. But I'll assume it was quite a zinger from a Anne Hathaway fanboy. How was the Devil Wears Prada? Did it tickle your inner Basic.

A Blah Man is just a Basic B. Go put on your Yoga pants and have a Starbucks. Make it Pumpkin Spiced.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2563596]The person to whose butt you are so firmly attached claims the chance of it being deliberate is 0%. Your own statements have been suspiciously supportive of the CCP regime in this thread. When a doofus claims no investigation is warranted because it could never have happened, then the claim "if it was indeed deliberate, we are supportive of holding them responsible" is useless. You will never establish the culpability w / o an investigation and McA's posts have not demanded any investigations but he has posted several comments justifying his view that the cuddly Xi regime could never have done that (and so have you).[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Mursenary;2563334]Obviously they have benefitted. Their attempts at burying the story late in 2019 should result in reparations to the world of some sort whether the source was zoonotic, accidental, or intentional.

[b]Hey, maybe they did release it intentionally. That cannot be 100% ruled out.

Investigating the source is warranted. Demanding accountability is warranted.[/b] But accusing without proper evidence is just detrimental warmongering speak.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Mursenary;2563303]The second half of the passage ignores one thing: The Shotgun Approach.

[i]*science passage. blah blah blah*[/i]

Anyway, the Chinese have the resources. Most state universities with a top tier microbiology department do. I just question why the Chinese would purposefully unleash a plan like that. Considering their new found formidable yet insecure position on the world stage, they had too much to lose to risk such a devious plan.

[/QUOTE]Can't speak for McA, even though that would be quite unlike him to make such a definitive statement regarding unknowns, but I certainly never claimed the chance of it being deliberate is 0%. Also pretty sure that I never said that the CCP could not have done it. In fact, I've posted a pretty lengthy retort to McA that said that they were capable. Saying that is unlikely because it would not be in the greatest long term interest and would also be against their modus operandi is a very different point. Did I imply that no investigation was warranted? Pretty sure the exact opposite actually.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2563596]It is fine if you guys feel some allegiance to some ancestral lands but that won't change the responsibility for the genocide perpetrated by those mass murderers if they had indeed leaked it deliberately. Even an accidental leak would mean they killed millions around the world through their sheer incompetence and negligence.[/QUOTE]LOL, I'm not even Chinese. I'm Thai American. That's like asking if you have some allegiance to Athens or Sparta.

Then again, this is consistent with your previous tendency to paint an entire group of people as the enemy. Even innocent people who have nothing to do with your admitted biases. Instead of merely criticizing, you have a tendency to paint people as the enemy, warmongering.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2498229]For once, I agree with you 100%. France needs to be tougher. All these Muslims went to France because they wanted to, France did not abduct them from the ghettos they lived in their home countries. If they can't put up with their mullah and allah ribbed a little, they should have stayed in their homeland ghettos. The weird thing is that at least a majority of the Muslims in France must be aghast at these atrocities committed by their Islamic brothers, but as usual, they always keep quiet but raise their heads only when their beloved prophet is insulted. [b]France should round these barbarians up and ship them back to their homeland.[/b] That is one action I would be fully supportive of.[/QUOTE]Evasive? Me?

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2563603]And as usual, you (and MCA. Just as I predicted0 are evasive. The question was about reparations. You made the claim that some reparations are warranted and in the past, your solution was that in return for the crime of murdering millions around the world, China should give a vaccine (that does not even work) for free. McA of course came up with his "they already suffered enough because Hua Wei was punished' theory. Unreal.[/QUOTE]Oh you know, those sneaking slanty eyes. It must be built in to my nature. Evasive about what? Why don't you just answer the questions? Who said that deliberate release wouldn't be a crime against humanity? Who said anything about holding the CCP accountable would be racist? Pretty sure my criticism of the CCP and holding them accountable was pretty fair. Never even said that they should supply the inferior Sinovac vaccine. But you tell me:

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2554817]But facts are facts and the Chinese government made things worse than it could have been. [b]Instead of being assholes about it, it would behoove the nation to accept responsibility.[/b] And since their economy is the only major power to not substantially suffer, I would say some financial repercussion would be in order. [b]At the very least[/b], they could supply vaccines for free to every nation that needs it and wants it.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Mursenary;2563334]Obviously they have benefitted. Their attempts at burying the story late in 2019 should result in reparations to the world of some sort whether the source was zoonotic, accidental, or intentional.

Investigating the source is warranted. Demanding accountability is warranted. But accusing without proper evidence is just detrimental warmongering speak.[/QUOTE]I think my criticism of the CCP and Chinese people has been pretty clear.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2558228] Hell Japanese and rich Chinese are some of the most racist people in the world. Heck, you have called me a brown monkey yourself..[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Mursenary;2522941]Can't forget the Chinese either. As the Chinese middle class grows, they are quickly becoming known to travel in large packs while on holiday and be absurdly unaware of how their noisiness disturbs the ambiance. I remember being in serene locales in Vietnam and Portugal only to have the majesty of the natural surroundings ruined by busloads of Chinese tourists invading like locust. Ugh, they're the worst.

Even the Vietnamese government had to ban Chinese tourists at one point, citing "uncivilized" behavior. When a third world country calls a nation's people uncivilized, there's a problem.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Mursenary;2563390] Even this simple goof would cause to Chinese government to cover it up to "save face. " Given their history, protecting their image of control and competency is completely consistent with their modus operandi.[/QUOTE]Daaayyuum Boomer, did you call me a thug? I love your word choices! Hahahaha. I'll take this as a compliment. But despite this, here you are, restarting it all by calling me a slime ball out of the blue even when I purposefully laid off of you. You just can't resist. I guess every Basic B_itch likes a bad boy. "Baby because I'm a thug. ". [I]-Trick Daddy,2001[/I].

[URL]https://youtu.be/rotWBW9af_Q?t=78[/URL]

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2563596]
Anyway, it is useless to discuss these things with a street thug like you.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2563596]The person to whose butt you are so firmly attached claims the chance of it being deliberate is 0%. Your own statements have been suspiciously supportive of the CCP regime in this thread. When a doofus claims no investigation is warranted because it could never have happened, then the claim "if it was indeed deliberate, we are supportive of holding them responsible" is useless. You will never establish the culpability w / o an investigation and McA's posts have not demanded any investigations but he has posted several comments justifying his view that the cuddly Xi regime could never have done that (and so have you).

It is fine if you guys feel some allegiance to some ancestral lands but that won't change the responsibility for the genocide perpetrated by those mass murderers if they had indeed leaked it deliberately. Even an accidental leak would mean they killed millions around the world through their sheer incompetence and negligence.

Anyway, it is useless to discuss these things with a street thug like you.[/QUOTE]You keep using that word genocide. But are you sure you know what it means? I wasn't aware that a specific ethnicity, religion, culture, or nationality was targeted. Pretty sure people from a wide range of nations and ethnicities have died.

But I guess the word genocide does illicit some pretty nasty feelings and serves your intent of creating an us versus them scenario. Warmonger.

Guys, he's kind of a big deal.

His apartment smells of rich Mahogany. He has many leather bound books. He's kind of a big deal.

[URL]https://youtu.be/Hzx8KHjQD6c?t=15[/URL]

[QUOTE=Pistons;2563671]As always I am right and the Satanists are wrong (even if they are woefully unaware of being satanists themselves).[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Pistons;2545742]I, Pistons should be head of center for disease control. In any country for that matter.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Pistons;2557500]Do it the natural way, and call on Pistons! He'll chug some willow bark, and be ready to go, like the superhero he is![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Pistons;2560326]Coming up with new words or spellings is what real intellectual alphas do all the time.

I do it all the time. [/QUOTE][QUOTE=Pistons;2560324]Like I have written here before. I change paradigms. [/QUOTE][QUOTE=Pistons;2560323]Me: an Alpha who calls anyone anything he likes. (Such as Zews; Because it looks superior).[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Pistons;2556997] I am an expert in media and information. [/QUOTE]

More good news from the UK showing that the Vaccines really do work even with the Indian variant.

Only two people have died with the Indian variant after receiving both vaccinations, suggesting the jabs are playing a major role in preventing serious disease, even for the mutated strain.

UK health authorities say despite 5,599 cases of the Indian variant in the UK, just 12 people have died, of whom only two had been fully vaccinated.

Just 3% of infections were in people who had received both doses, with nearly 73 per cent of all cases in unvaccinated people, and 24% infected who had just one dose.

Of 201 people who ended up in hospital with the Indian variant, just five people had been fully vaccinated.

To give some perspective, way back in 2005, I take the envelope of HIV and combine it with a SIV core to create a SHIV. And grew massive amount of it in bioreactor. The purpose was to study HIV env in monkey to create a vaccine. The technology have come a long way in the last 15 years.

Now doing something like that you have to have respect for what the virus can do and to protect yourself and the general public. There need to be a culture of safety at the BLS facility to make this kind of work safe. For example, if I or anyone make a mistake, we feel very free to speak up and not fear ANY repercussion. Hey everyone look at me, I fuck up. That way everyone can take appropriate precaution.

Been Asian myself, I think that Asian culture in general (especially Chinese culture) is not good for this type of work. There is a pressure to not get out of line, not fuck up. And to sweep it under the rug. You get punish for stepping out or fucking up. Growing up in the west and knowing both cultures, I say this is a competitive advantage of the west.

Anyway, what most likely to happen is. They was doing gain of function research. Someone fuck up. That person hide it. Got themselves and their family sick. And you know the rest. Having say all of this. I think dr geert vanden bossche might be right. If he is right, the world is fucking up on a massive scale with covid vaccination. I personally will not take this vaccine.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2563690]Pretty happy with my friends and family. And yeah, I also love dem ho's.

No kooky behavior, my life stories and experiences makes me interesting. No eccentricity needed.

You think "cookie cutter corporate dork is just a criticism of corporations? No dude, it's a criticism of your Blah personality. I'm a capitalist and an entrepreneur, corporations are fine by me. People who let the corporate mindset sink into their personal lives? Well those are slaves. Dude, you're a slave.

You seem to be able to think from only one perspective, your profession. Your mind only has one level. Anyway, the emphasis was the word "dork". You're just a boring dork who can only see society from one single angle shaped by your very boring thoughts and experiences. In millennial girl terms, they would call you a Basic.

I don't watch a lot of Anne Hathaway movies. No clue what you're referencing. But I'll assume it was quite a zinger from a Anne Hathaway fanboy. How was the Devil Wears Prada? Did it tickle your inner Basic.

A Blah Man is just a Basic B. Go put on your Yoga pants and have a Starbucks. Make it Pumpkin Spiced.[/QUOTE]Haha, you are interesting to who? Your other fake handles that agree with you here on this site? You do seem to have populated yourself a few times. Your admiration for CCP has been quite clear as is a visceral hatred for White Americans, whether you are Thai or Chinese or whatever. Do the Asian hunters tell you they love Thai food, is that why you squander your precious few dollars on them and then sleep in the car? (One wonders why you don't like girls of your own kind, not very pretty for your eyes or is that a revenge factor at work? That must have been quite a sob story high school experience, your life choices are still being driven by those days. Listen, you are a kook and thug just based on the way you lash out at every second member on this site. Enjoy your 40th birthday, grandpa. Apparently you are already going bald and grey, and a beer tummy will not be far behind a bum shoulder. Don't worry though, the Asian hunter will still take your money and confirm that you are "interesting " in her own English.

For example why did Dr. Shi Zhengli, who clearly is a well educated expert now in regards to gain-of-function lab testing, and headed this effort at the Wuhan virology lab send parts of the work over to level 2 and level 3 labs? Where some ignorant scientists of course got infected? If that is not one more smoking gun that it was planned to leak, I don't know!

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2563717]You keep using that word genocide. But are you sure you know what it means? I wasn't aware that a specific ethnicity, religion, culture, or nationality was targeted. Pretty sure people from a wide range of nations and ethnicities have died.

But I guess the word genocide does illicit some pretty nasty feelings and serves your intent of creating an us versus them scenario. Warmonger.[/QUOTE]I guess you must be retarded. Genocide has to be of one specific race or ethnicity only? Hitler killed millions of Jewish people, Poles, Catholics, Russians, Romany, and on and on. He pretty much had no regard for any lifeform that was not his ideal Aryan and with enough time and power would have wiped out all human life from this planet except his own kind. Tell each of those groups that Hitler did not commit genocide because he also killed other people. CCP likes to do today what Hitler tried then; except, they also killed millions of own citizens in their purges.

You keep defending your CCP overlords and then deny that you admire their handiwork. OK then. The only us v them is those who are trying to take the CCP thugs to task and the slimeballs defending the genocide of CCP.

Our healthcare analyst is ethnic Chinese. One of the nicest gentlemen, super bright and educated. Nothing like you. You keep trying to include other people in your little bandwagon to feel secure, even when it comes to online flame wars. Must be the Bsian beta man in you.

[QUOTE=Canary;2563737]More good news from the UK showing that the Vaccines really do work even with the Indian variant.

Only two people have died with the Indian variant after receiving both vaccinations, suggesting the jabs are playing a major role in preventing serious disease, even for the mutated strain.

UK health authorities say despite 5,599 cases of the Indian variant in the UK, just 12 people have died, of whom only two had been fully vaccinated.

Just 3% of infections were in people who had received both doses, with nearly 73 per cent of all cases in unvaccinated people, and 24% infected who had just one dose.

Of 201 people who ended up in hospital with the Indian variant, just five people had been fully vaccinated.[/QUOTE]But after UK mutant, Germany and France prefer now to put UK under 15 days quarantine, Bo Johnson probably not being anymore reliable enough for EU, even Spain can t afford anymore to protect. Not even test needed for French for a day in Germany.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2563862]I guess you must be retarded. Genocide has to be of one specific race or ethnicity only? Hitler killed millions of Jewish people, Poles, Catholics, Russians, Romany, and on and on. He pretty much had no regard for any lifeform that was not his ideal Aryan and with enough time and power would have wiped out all human life from this planet except his own kind. Tell each of those groups that Hitler did not commit genocide because he also killed other people. CCP likes to do today what Hitler tried then; except, they also killed millions of own citizens in their purges.

You keep defending your CCP overlords and then deny that you admire their handiwork. OK then. The only us v them is those who are trying to take the CCP thugs to task and the slimeballs defending the genocide of CCP.

Our healthcare analyst is ethnic Chinese. One of the nicest gentlemen, super bright and educated. Nothing like you. You keep trying to include other people in your little bandwagon to feel secure, even when it comes to online flame wars. Must be the Bsian beta man in you.[/QUOTE]Facts:

[QUOTE]genocide

noun: genocide; plural noun: genocides

the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group

Origin
Genos (Greek): race
-cida (Latin) : kill

[url]https://www.google.com/search?q=genocide&rlz=1CDGOYI_enUS769US769&oq=genocide&aqs=chrome..69i57j0i433j46i433j0i433l2j0.1660j1j4&hl=en-US&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8
[/url][/QUOTE]What an angry elf. You must be from the South Pole.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2563802]Haha, you are interesting to who? Your other fake handles that agree with you here on this site? You do seem to have populated yourself a few times. Your admiration for CCP has been quite clear as is a visceral hatred for White Americans, whether you are Thai or Chinese or whatever. Do the Asian hunters tell you they love Thai food, is that why you squander your precious few dollars on them and then sleep in the car? (One wonders why you don't like girls of your own kind, not very pretty for your eyes or is that a revenge factor at work? That must have been quite a sob story high school experience, your life choices are still being driven by those days. Listen, you are a kook and thug just based on the way you lash out at every second member on this site. Enjoy your 40th birthday, grandpa. Apparently you are already going bald and grey, and a beer tummy will not be far behind a bum shoulder. Don't worry though, the Asian hunter will still take your money and confirm that you are "interesting " in her own English.[/QUOTE]Oh Blah, I get it, you hate being wrong. This must be quite frustrating to have the paper trail repeatedly prove you wrong.

I understand your sentiment though, we both look down on each other. The difference is that you look down with disdain. I do so with pity and disgust.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2563723]Guys, he's kind of a big deal.

His apartment smells of rich Mahogany. He has many leather bound books. He's kind of a big deal.

[URL]https://youtu.be/Hzx8KHjQD6c?t=15[/URL][/QUOTE]I will start an Onlyfans soon!

Just so that tiny willy guys can get even more frustrated.

Given how you managed to collect so many of my quotation gems, you could almost be one of my disciples. If you had a bigger dick.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2563873]But after UK mutant, Germany and France prefer now to put UK under 15 days quarantine, Bo Johnson probably not being anymore reliable enough for EU, even Spain can t afford anymore to protect. Not even test needed for French for a day in Germany.[/QUOTE]It's the Indian variant that's now the concern as it is spreading through the unvaccinated population faster than other variants. Yet Spain is begging UK tourists to come back.

[QUOTE=Downandup;2564078]It's the Indian variant that's now the concern as it is spreading through the unvaccinated population faster than other variants. Yet Spain is begging UK tourists to come back.[/QUOTE]Are you so sure that vaccinated people are not spreading anymore the virus? Even Moderna explain on Friday that the will be more variant around in the coming years. I am convinced that the vaccines from today will not be used in 2 years.

[QUOTE=Downandup;2564078]It's the Indian variant that's now the concern as it is spreading through the unvaccinated population faster than other variants. Yet Spain is begging UK tourists to come back.[/QUOTE]Yes Indian mutant spreading now in UK and after UK mutant spread on beginning of the year in EU, so Germany first, followed by France, don t want to experience again same spreading, even not good for our business, for tourism in France and complicated about channel, but already too many deaths. Germany already forbid UK few months ago about UK mutant. English football teams couldn't play in Germany.

[QUOTE=Downandup;2564078]It's the Indian variant that's now the concern as it is spreading through the unvaccinated population faster than other variants. Yet Spain is begging UK tourists to come back.[/QUOTE]Don't worry Downandup, it seems to me that Sirioja is on another planet!

Reports from Vietnam is that the Indian and British versions have kinda fused together. Meaning they have the mutations from both of them. I bet it happened in India and not in Vietnam though. But they hardly have much control in India, so there may soon be even more.

And this hybrid has like 8 or 9 mutations in the spike alone then I assume? (Just guessing here since I'm lazy right now). Wonder how inefficient the vaccines are against this one.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2564066]Given how you managed to collect so many of my quotation gems, you could almost be one of my disciples. If you had a bigger dick.[/QUOTE]Ugh, bring back Pessimist. I already have visual confirmation that this one's completely beneath me.

[QUOTE=Canary;2564118]Don't worry Downandup, it seems to me that Sirioja is on another planet![/QUOTE]Not my decision, but Germany twice on this year and even France when complicated about channel tunnel.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2564066]Given how you managed to collect so many of my quotation gems, you could almost be one of my disciples. If you had a bigger dick.[/QUOTE]Normally when a person is faced with such collection of one's own quotes the reaction would and should be to accuse the other poster of selectively quoting or taking things out of context.

You on the other hand seem to think the quotes are flattering.

[QUOTE=Ararat;2564250]Normally when a person is faced with such collection of one's own quotes the reaction would and should be to accuse the other poster of selectively quoting or taking things out of context.

You on the other hand seem to think the quotes are flattering.[/QUOTE]That's a common feature among the most severely afflicted serial posters of this board: they don't understand 2nd degree, underlying messages, they don't realize that they are constantly embarrassing themselves and they are keen on self quoting.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2564416]The bride and the bridesmaids are also sexy (better faces than miss titties). But holy shit, this music is a total disaster.

And as a side note, I wonder how McA finds this kind of videos on YouTube. Does he search for 'Turkish wedding big tits'?[/QUOTE]The algorithm sees snd knows on.

(Maybe part of the reason the kooks on the rants thread always seem to find videos by other kooks.).

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2563886]Facts:

What an angry elf. You must be from the South Pole.[/QUOTE]Hmm. You must have used up both of your brain cells to look up genocide / s. Impressive. You can copy / paste.

According to this "genius", all that the CCP has to do to not be called genocidal is to murder millions of multiple sets of people around the world. Retarded is indeed the right word to describe you.

Ching Chongs? Nice. Is that like members of a certain ethnic group allowed to use and-word to each other but the rest of us will lose our jobs for saying it? I thought you were just a Thai anyway. Perhaps you are automatically granted honorary access to the insider status due to your CCP slavishness.

Is there any group you have left out? Women are cunts and Karens, gays are faggots and worse, Chinese are now Ching Chongs and on and on. And here, I'm getting trashed for saying the CCP goons caused genocide and for demanding deportation of throat slitting Islamic thugs out of Europe. Hypocrite is your middle name, Fucking is the fist name, we all know Slimeball is your last name.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2563892]Oh Blah, I get it, you hate being wrong. This must be quite frustrating to have the paper trail repeatedly prove you wrong.

I understand your sentiment though, we both look down on each other. The difference is that you look down with disdain. I do so with pity and disgust.[/QUOTE]Blah man? So lame. You never amounted to much but at least could be counted on for a good insult once in a while. Now, the best you can do is blah man. Pity. Seems like you are losing your edge and aging in dog years now, fast sliding into senility.

What happened to your attack pimps? Don't see them much, anymore. Did you forget the passwords to your fake handles? Try resetting them. You badly need a show of support to feel secure, Bsian!

[QUOTE=Ararat;2564250]Normally when a person is faced with such collection of one's own quotes the reaction would and should be to accuse the other poster of selectively quoting or taking things out of context.

You on the other hand seem to think the quotes are flattering.[/QUOTE]He must have done an extremely poor job analyzing me if he thought those quotes was anything but flattering. Of course they are. I made about a dousing posts with those quotes at the center. LOL.

But given his weird psychology links all the time, it doesn't surprise me that he is confused.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2564543]Blah man? So lame. You never amounted to much but at least could be counted on for a good insult once in a while. Now, the best you can do is blah man. Pity. Seems like you are losing your edge and aging in dog years now, fast sliding into senility.

What happened to your attack pimps? Don't see them much, anymore. Did you forget the passwords to your fake handles? Try resetting them. You badly need a show of support to feel secure, Bsian![/QUOTE]The best insult is usually the most accurate one Blah.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2564541]Hmm. You must have used up both of your brain cells to look up genocide / s. Impressive. You can copy / paste.

According to this "genius", all that the CCP has to do to not be called genocidal is to murder millions of multiple sets of people around the world. Retarded is indeed the right word to describe you.[/QUOTE]Man,

All I have to add is that originality and creativity is hard to coach. Figure it out. You a grown man.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2564386]That's a common feature among the most severely afflicted serial posters of this board: they don't understand 2nd degree, underlying messages, they don't realize that they are constantly embarrassing themselves and they are keen on self quoting.[/QUOTE]No no, believe me. This is a clash of civilizations! Any Scandinavian with a brain would have caught onto the meaning of all the posts he just quoted. I didn't think Americans were that backwards, but clearly he is. Or is it the Thai or Asian subculture? I am not sure. Either way, I can't stop laughing!

Actually the English here should get the meaning also.

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2564091]Are you so sure that vaccinated people are not spreading anymore the virus? Even Moderna explain on Friday that the will be more variant around in the coming years. I am convinced that the vaccines from today will not be used in 2 years.[/QUOTE]Yes, quite sure that transmission risk is much lower from fully vaccinated people. There are enough real world studies now from Israel, UK and US. Current case rise in England is due to not yet (fully) vaccinated people, it affects much more younger people compared to before. It has been said before, sooner or later everybody gets impacted by the virus. Either you get vaccinated or you will catch it at some point. Good for you if won't have symptoms when you catch it, but at minimum you will pass it on to others.

And yes, vaccines will be updated in time, booster shots will be available towards the end of the year, trials are already in progress. Let's not forget that we have many countries with very low vaccination rates outside Europe or US. Until the rest of the world gets enough vaccines the virus will be around. From a pure business point of view Pfizer, Moderna and other companies will make tons of money for years.

I find it interesting how in the US both sides are against a covid pass. I guess it will only impact them if they want to travel internationally.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2564575]He must have done an extremely poor job analyzing me if he thought those quotes was anything but flattering. Of course they are. I made about a dousing posts with those quotes at the center. LOL.

But given his weird psychology links all the time, it doesn't surprise me that he is confused.[/QUOTE]The lack of self awareness that is obvious to others is glaring.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2564386]That's a common feature among the most severely afflicted serial posters of this board: they don't understand 2nd degree, underlying messages, they don't realize that they are constantly embarrassing themselves and they are keen on self quoting.[/QUOTE]I agree, it's hilarious that you don't realize how much you're embarrassing yourself.

[QUOTE=Ararat;2564250]Normally when a person is faced with such collection of one's own quotes the reaction would and should be to accuse the other poster of selectively quoting or taking things out of context.

You on the other hand seem to think the quotes are flattering.[/QUOTE]I could quote your posts, but I wouldn't find any trip report or anything else relevant to the topic of this forum.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2564542]Ching Chongs? Nice. Is that like members of a certain ethnic group allowed to use and-word to each other but the rest of us will lose our jobs for saying it? I thought you were just a Thai anyway. Perhaps you are automatically granted honorary access to the insider status due to your CCP slavishness.

Is there any group you have left out? Women are cunts and Karens, gays are faggots and worse, Chinese are now Ching Chongs and on and on. And here, I'm getting trashed for saying the CCP goons caused genocide and for demanding deportation of throat slitting Islamic thugs out of Europe. Hypocrite is your middle name, Fucking is the fist name, we all know Slimeball is your last name.[/QUOTE]If you weren't such a boomer dork I would say that your "firm" is a marketing firm. Your selective memory, baseless accusations, and / or purposeful manipulation of the paper trail is quite blatant. Shame on you for steering so far away from your STEM background. The lack of professional loyalty in addition to the already established unapologetic matrimonial infidelity is rather disappointing. I can't help but suspect that the decline in integrity of your recent posting style is affecting by your alliance with Pistons. Lay with stray dogs and you'll get fleas.

Do better Blah, do better. Elevate yourself from the cesspool.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2564728]Yes, quite sure that transmission risk is much lower from fully vaccinated people. There are enough real world studies now from Israel, UK and US. Current case rise in England is due to not yet (fully) vaccinated people, it affects much more younger people compared to before. It has been said before, sooner or later everybody gets impacted by the virus. Either you get vaccinated or you will catch it at some point. Good for you if won't have symptoms when you catch it, but at minimum you will pass it on to others.

And yes, vaccines will be updated in time, booster shots will be available towards the end of the year, trials are already in progress. Let's not forget that we have many countries with very low vaccination rates outside Europe or US. Until the rest of the world gets enough vaccines the virus will be around. From a pure business point of view Pfizer, Moderna and other companies will make tons of money for years.

I find it interesting how in the US both sides are against a covid pass. I guess it will only impact them if they want to travel internationally.[/QUOTE]Nice to see that you still believe in what all the big pharma are communicating, I repeat all were condemned for corruption and bribery. Sorry there is no serious study confirming that the vaccinated are less contagious, I have nothing against those vaccines but I am quite sure that there efficiency is like the one for the normal flue which is around 50% and that we will need to get new shots every year at least like for the normal flue why should it be different?

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2564819]I could quote your posts, but I wouldn't find any trip report or anything else relevant to the topic of this forum.[/QUOTE]Good thing we're coming out of a pandemic and this is a Rants thread.

Zero COVID deaths in UK today despite Indian Variant now accounting for about 75% of new cases.

[URL]https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/uk-reports-no-new-covid-19-deaths-3165-new-infections-2021-06-01/[/URL]

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2564851]Nice to see that you still believe in what all the big pharma are communicating, I repeat all were condemned for corruption and bribery. Sorry there is no serious study confirming that the vaccinated are less contagious, I have nothing against those vaccines but I am quite sure that there efficiency is like the one for the normal flue which is around 50% and that we will need to get new shots every year at least like for the normal flue why should it be different?[/QUOTE]He mentioned the most important study, what we see in the real world. Cases are significantly down in most vaccinated countries. More importantly deaths are magnitudes less in all vaccinated countries.

And again, different from flu vaccine because SARS CoV-2 mutates much more slowly than slowly.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2564728]Yes, quite sure that transmission risk is much lower from fully vaccinated people. There are enough real world studies now from Israel, UK and US. Current case rise in England is due to not yet (fully) vaccinated people, it affects much more younger people compared to before. It has been said before, sooner or later everybody gets impacted by the virus. Either you get vaccinated or you will catch it at some point. Good for you if won't have symptoms when you catch it, but at minimum you will pass it on to others.

And yes, vaccines will be updated in time, booster shots will be available towards the end of the year, trials are already in progress. Let's not forget that we have many countries with very low vaccination rates outside Europe or US. Until the rest of the world gets enough vaccines the virus will be around. From a pure business point of view Pfizer, Moderna and other companies will make tons of money for years.

I find it interesting how in the US both sides are against a covid pass. I guess it will only impact them if they want to travel internationally.[/QUOTE]UK are so safe that they are under 15 days quarantine for Germany and France when really difficult for France business. UK were already forbidden few months ago by Germany. Liverpool was not allowed to play in Germany.

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2564851]Nice to see that you still believe in what all the big pharma are communicating, I repeat all were condemned for corruption and bribery. Sorry there is no serious study confirming that the vaccinated are less contagious, I have nothing against those vaccines but I am quite sure that there efficiency is like the one for the normal flue which is around 50% and that we will need to get new shots every year at least like for the normal flue why should it be different?[/QUOTE]I am not disputing that new shots will be needed.

Everything else you say is just wrong, as always you never have any data to support your claims.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2564742]The lack of self awareness that is obvious to others is glaring.[/QUOTE]You have an extraordinarily small brain. I believe it could be a paralel to your micropenis.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2564953]You have an extraordinarily small brain. I believe it could be a paralel to your micropenis.[/QUOTE]Your dick is tiny. A girl told me so.

See how that works?

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2564633]Man,

All I have to add is that originality and creativity is hard to coach. Figure it out. You a grown man.[/QUOTE]It only is if you have a tiny brain. Creativity is something that has been highly studied in parts of Europe and USA. The funny thing is that the more you seem to be educated in a factory like manner, the less creative you become. In other words, the more you get brainwashed, the tinier your brain gets. And you are clearly an arch example in all of this as you have shown here again and again and again and again! BigB also seem to have a tiny brainwashed brain.

The Waldorf education method pioneered by Rudolph Steiner is one example of a training method that can be used in order to avoid the reduction of creative thinking as you develop your brain. Media studies too helps in reducing the negative impact of the standard brainwashing schooling system.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2564957]It only is if you have a tiny brain. Creativity is something that has been highly studied in parts of Europe and USA. The funny thing is that the more you seem to be educated in a factory like manner, the less creative you become. In other words, the more you get brainwashed, the tinier your brain gets. And you are clearly an arch example in all of this as you have shown here again and again and again and again! BigB also seem to have a tiny brainwashed brain.

The Waldorf education method pioneered by Rudolph Steiner is one example of a training method that can be used in order to avoid the reduction of creative thinking as you develop your brain. Media studies too helps in reducing the negative impact of the standard brainwashing schooling system.[/QUOTE]Says the office worker who gets paid to make other men rich, having no streams of asset allocation other than his trade-time-for-money mentality. A slave without any skills, easily replaceable. How sad.

Angry, ugly, with no marketable skills is a terribly combination.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2564961]Says the office worker who gets paid to make other men rich, having no streams of asset allocation other than his trade-time-for-money mentality. A slave without any skills, easily replaceable. How sad.

Angry, ugly, with no marketable skills is a terribly combination.[/QUOTE]Typical mr. Micro: all assumptions. And of course all wrong. Like always.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2564940]UK are so safe that they are under 15 days quarantine for Germany and France when really difficult for France business. UK were already forbidden few months ago by Germany. Liverpool was not allowed to play in Germany.[/QUOTE]You are a lost cause when it comes to reading comprehension, so this is for the benefit of others reading the thread. None of what you say is contradicting my statement.

By the way, creativity is usually defined as Divergent Thinking.

One famous study looked at a lot of kids at the age of 3, and then retested them as they grew older several times. The result was that the more the kids got brainwashed by societal norms of thinking, the less divergent and thus less creative they got. Hence societal and schooling based brainwashing.

One of the questions they gave these kids was for example:

- How many things can you use a paperclip to?

3 year olds could in average come up with over 200 different uses. Later this average number fell in inverse correlated to their schooling and aging in society. So they got dumber and less creative. Basically they were unable to look at a task from different angles. They didn't manage to change paradigms in ways of thinking.

This certainly puts into question the idea of feng shui. And it is the essence and root of the legend of Chinese people copying things instead of being creative and inventive. But of course given China's lagging start of industrialization, we cannot yet say for sure. We have to wait for China to catch up. But unless Feng shui is given the middle finger, and some of the central ideas behind the ccp changes, they might just be having a big problem in terms of creativity and divergent thinking. Which is also probably why rich Chinese sends their kids to western schools and universities. Though this normally has deeper roots that won't be fixed after 3 or 5 years at a western school.

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2564851]Nice to see that you still believe in what all the big pharma are communicating, I repeat all were condemned for corruption and bribery. Sorry there is no serious study confirming that the vaccinated are less contagious, I have nothing against those vaccines but I am quite sure that there efficiency is like the one for the normal flue which is around 50% and that we will need to get new shots every year at least like for the normal flue why should it be different?[/QUOTE]If you say there is no serious study, according to you where would serious studies be published? NEMJ, Lancet, BMJ or youtube videos uploaded by John RandomInternetUser?

Here we go again:

China reports human case of H10 N3 bird flu, a possible first ([URL]https://apnews.com/article/china-bird-flu-flu-health-b5862e1d9892b25fdb470abf30432289[/URL]).

Beijing (AP) A man in eastern China has contracted what might be the world's first human case of the H10 N3 strain of bird flu, but the risk of large-scale spread is low, the government said Tuesday.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2564918]Zero COVID deaths in UK today despite Indian Variant now accounting for about 75% of new cases.

[URL]https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/uk-reports-no-new-covid-19-deaths-3165-new-infections-2021-06-01/[/URL][/QUOTE]Yes no death and very good point, but increasing Indian cases put them under 15 days quarantine, ranked as risky mutants for UK and Indian area. Only Spain or Portugal can t afford anymore to protect their citizens, because too poor now without tourism, but spreading could cost much.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2564926]He mentioned the most important study, what we see in the real world. Cases are significantly down in most vaccinated countries. More importantly deaths are magnitudes less in all vaccinated countries.

And again, different from flu vaccine because SARS CoV-2 mutates much more slowly than slowly.[/QUOTE]Have a look on the curbs of countries like UK, France, Israel. You will see that in mid 2020 there were going down more without vaccination, it is too early to see what are the real impacts of the vaccination, nobody can predict the future of any epidemic.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2564957]It only is if you have a tiny brain. Creativity is something that has been highly studied in parts of Europe and USA. The funny thing is that the more you seem to be educated in a factory like manner, the less creative you become. In other words, the more you get brainwashed, the tinier your brain gets. And you are clearly an arch example in all of this as you have shown here again and again and again and again! BigB also seem to have a tiny brainwashed brain.

The Waldorf education method pioneered by Rudolph Steiner is one example of a training method that can be used in order to avoid the reduction of creative thinking as you develop your brain. Media studies too helps in reducing the negative impact of the standard brainwashing schooling system.[/QUOTE]Oh, that explains it.

I thought you were mentally ill but if you have been attending Waldorf schools then the illness is part of the eternal nature or nurture question. Did your parents send you there because they're insane or did you become insane by going to one of those 'schools'?

Your grandiose self-image combined with your real life failures is prime school shooter territory.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2564940]UK are so safe that they are under 15 days quarantine for Germany and France when really difficult for France business. UK were already forbidden few months ago by Germany. Liverpool was not allowed to play in Germany.[/QUOTE]It's the Indian varient that is causing this, it is spreading far faster than the Kent variant and that means that it is sweeping through the unvaccinated, but the UK will reach 49% / 50% fully vaccinated today and 75% of adults will have had their first jab. More good news is that the current vaccines are still working very well against the Indian variant if not as well as against the other strains. It's only a matter of time before enough of the population is covered. Europe is catching up too. I do think that ending the current restrictions in less than thee more weeks is too soon but it won't need to be too much longer.

[QUOTE=Downandup;2565079]It's the Indian varient that is causing this, it is spreading far faster than the Kent variant and that means that it is sweeping through the unvaccinated, but the UK will reach 49% / 50% fully vaccinated today and 75% of adults will have had their first jab. More good news is that the current vaccines are still working very well against the Indian variant if not as well as against the other strains. It's only a matter of time before enough of the population is covered. Europe is catching up too. I do think that ending the current restrictions in less than thee more weeks is too soon but it won't need to be too much longer.[/QUOTE]UK keep on own restrictions and Germany and France prefer to protect after experiencing previous mutant which killed too many of our citizens. I wish heat will help Spain and Portugal when they take Indian spreading risk.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2564942]Everything else you say is just wrong, as always you never have any data to support your claims.[/QUOTE]It's a common feature among bitter grumpy trolls.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2564976]Typical mr. Micro: all assumptions. And of course all wrong. Like always.[/QUOTE]Ugly was definitely not an assumption. Visual confirmation was obtained. Frankenstein's Monster. Good news, all you have to do is buy 2 bolts and fix them to the sides of your neck and you have an easy Halloween costume.

180 cm monster with a 10 cm cock. How unfortunate.

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2565066]Have a look on the curbs of countries like UK, France, Israel. You will see that in mid 2020 there were going down more without vaccination, it is too early to see what are the real impacts of the vaccination, nobody can predict the future of any epidemic.[/QUOTE]You said that a few months ago too. And here we are, 5-6 months of general decline in cases and more importantly consistent decline in deaths in the UK, USA, and Israel. Compared to EU countries that lagged in vaccinations, it took until April before getting to the peak.

Was that a coincidence? Hmmm. Good thing that the early vaccination countries didn't take the side of vaccine hesitancy.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2565157]Good news, all you have to do is buy 2 bolts and fix them to the sides of your neck and you have an easy Halloween costume..[/QUOTE]Perfect for the next Halloween party in LivingRoom. Because now we have a leprechaun and the Frankenstein monster on this board. Maybe they'll get a free entrance?

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2565161]You said that a few months ago too. And here we are, 5-6 months of general decline in cases and more importantly consistent decline in deaths in the UK, USA, and Israel. Compared to EU countries that lagged in vaccinations, it took until April before getting to the peak.

Was that a coincidence? Hmmm. Good thing that the early vaccination countries didn't take the side of vaccine hesitancy.[/QUOTE]Waiting you are a great believer in vaccines, I am more skeptical, just today Israel announced 250 cases of severe heard disease on young people being vaccinated with Pfister. There is no medicine without side effects. Politicians are scrupules as long as their power is concerned: Take the shot, close your mouth and business as usual. And please on top of that don t start to think you are here to obey and so many are following it.

In the past people are talking about dodge coin here. Does anyone here take part in AMC stock short squeeze?? Google it and see what people are saying.

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2565064]I think also in the US the situation is quite different between a highly paid software engineer living on the west coast or a retired guy in Florida or a farmer from Arizona or a single mum with 2 children in NY, so it is the same in Europe. In none competitive economies like France, Italy, Spain the prices are facing strong inflation but this is not true in Germany or eastern Europe. The crisis is bringing big changes like people selling the apartments in the city centres to buy a house outside the cities, home working means also less travel. In March 20 I invested strongly on the stock market with very good results 1 year later, crisis always are bringing opportunities. My real-estate investment from 2018 has triple the value, I am not desperately waiting the reopening of the FKK to fuck, sex is not forbidden and I would say for those who are not so stupid, a bit attractive and flexible the opportunities are like on the stock market or real-estate very important at least for me.[/QUOTE]Yes for sure individual situations matter. But behind all of the media hoopla in the States, I don't think individual situations have turned for the worse for the average person, [B]yet[/B]. For now, the poorer class have been saved by the generous unemployment benefits. In addition to the normal unemployment payments, various economic relief packages have given them first an extra $600 per week, then downgraded to $400, and now $300. In addition they were given $3600 in stimulus payments over 3 distributions plus another $400-$600 per child three times. That's a decent bit of money for vast amount of people accustomed to making a lower wage; in many cases, it was more than they would normally make. These people have been given between $2000 to $3500 per month when they were accustomed to probably something along the lines of taking home $2000-$2500 per month after taxes. That is why American businesses are now having a hard time re-hiring employees. $10-$15 per hour, taxed, is not worth giving up the $500+ per week for doing nothing. At the next level, professionals have enjoyed decent job security as so many industries have been declared "essential." I think there is a subset of people that fall in an unfortunate sweet spot of making too much money to qualify for relief payments and not working in industries that were able to keep their finances above water.

The most affected here are the entrepreneurs of retail businesses and temporary / gig workers. But recent relief packages have provided large sums of money to small businesses as requirements have been relaxed. For example, the most recent package only required people to show bank statements from February 2020 and fill out a small amount of paperwork.

There are some who fell through the cracks or didn't bother to apply for the relief money, but most people here are not suffering like the media suggests. Those people would be young people who were just entering the workforce or businesses that were doing very well to the point that relief money actually equated to less income. In addition, some small chain businesses have had to close or large businesses have seen lower profit margins due to increased cost of operation due to rises in expenses due to supply chain disruptions. Many non-essential professional firms have also seen losses such as the legal sector or elective medicine.

We also initially saw the same real estate shifts to the suburbs and countryside but that has subsided and home prices in major cities have skyrocketed after the initial dip at the beginning of the pandemic.

In the end, the average American pocketbook has not been so negatively impacted. The recent boom in holiday travel and retail sector provides optimism but what happens going forward may however change all of this. With all of the new printed money and paradigm shifts in how people view the the relationship between their personal lives and their professional work priorities is in flux, no one can know for sure how the elephant in the room that is pending inflation will affect our society. It may all come crashing down. But for now, most people's financial health is not ruined, save some that slipped through the cracks and various individual situations.

I assume that the differences between European nations will not be as uniform as what is happening in the States as each nation's economies and response to the pandemic differ much more than the economies and policies between American States. I don't know how all of the various European nations handled the pandemic but my family in rural, northern Italy say that they are doing just fine. My friends with lower incomes in the Netherlands say that their finances are okay. My professional friends in London tell me that they have not financially suffered.

But the big question is how will the profit losses in each nation's numerous businesses and corporations affect the lives of individual people. How will the huge amounts of money printing in Western nations affect inflation and future cost of living? Are Europeans culturally seeing the same paradigm shift that many middle and lower-middle class Americans seeing?

Perhaps some others here know more about the specific situations in various European nations.

[QUOTE=Adindas;2565234]In the past people are talking about dodge coin here. Does anyone here take part in AMC stock short squeeze?? Google it and see what people are saying.[/QUOTE]FOMO here as I took profits during the initial bump. But was a good day for people who were heavily invested in speculation and recovery companies.

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2565186]Waiting you are a great believer in vaccines, I am more skeptical, just today Israel announced 250 cases of severe heard disease on young people being vaccinated with Pfister. There is no medicine without side effects. Politicians are scrupules as long as their power is concerned: Take the shot, close your mouth and business as usual. And please on top of that don t start to think you are here to obey and so many are following it.[/QUOTE]Their is a risk-benefit in all of medicine. But educating myself on the background science, critiquing my sources, integrating the data with personal knowledge, and observing real world observations allows me to formulate an educated stance. If you come into a decision situation with previously constructed expectations, without the willingness to bend and incorporate new data, your own positions can always be reasoned with selective sourcing of "evidence".

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2565172]Perfect for the next Halloween party in LivingRoom. Because now we have a leprechaun and the Frankenstein monster on this board. Maybe they'll get a free entrance?[/QUOTE]They asked me to make the party flyer.

[QUOTE=Ararat;2565071]Oh, that explains it.

I thought you were mentally ill but if you have been attending Waldorf schools then the illness is part of the eternal nature or nurture question. Did your parents send you there because they're insane or did you become insane by going to one of those 'schools'?

Your grandiose self-image combined with your real life failures is prime school shooter territory.[/QUOTE]I never went there actually. But studies show the kids who do perform better in creativity tasks as they grow older.

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2565186]just today Israel announced 250 cases of severe heard disease on young people being vaccinated with Pfister....[/QUOTE]Any sources for that?

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2565271]They asked me to make the party flyer.[/QUOTE]I'm impressed! But you need to do even more work if you want that disciple status we were discussing earlier!

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2565251]FOMO here as I took profits during the initial bump. But was a good day for people who were heavily invested in speculation and recovery companies.[/QUOTE]

I am already part of the ape rabid community and will "HODL" it until it reaches $100+ (hyperbolism obviously). When it reaches that price, I might quit my current job and focusing more on puss1es hunting. Theoretically, it could reach $100k, but practically I personally do not believe, if it will ever reach near that price

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2565157]Ugly was definitely not an assumption. Visual confirmation was obtained. Frankenstein's Monster. Good news, all you have to do is buy 2 bolts and fix them to the sides of your neck and you have an easy Halloween costume.

180 cm monster with a 10 cm cock. How unfortunate.[/QUOTE]I was really not impressed by your look at LR, didn't see a NBA tall and when you were hidden in Bruggen couch whole evening, Lucifer didn't notice your look, even she was looking for business when she couldn't get me. And when I see your French bald friend here, I just think we can't experience same, some girls making free for me, but never free as he told.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2565157] with a 10 cm cock. How unfortunate.[/QUOTE]At 18 Sauna in Macau while getting a thigh massage from one of the Vietnamese masseuses in the lounge there, another one of them ran over with a meter stick trying to measure it. It went down slightly as the pro masseuse left it over to the girl with the meter stick, but I clocked in at 18 cm. Apparently it was a bit of a talking point among those masseuses there. I haven't self tested higher, but I know I had more in me at the time, and need a hot girl to do the work. But it was enough to get a lot of jealous looks.

My go to Hunan girl at the time there claimed it was 22 or even 25 cm to all the other 150 or so girls at the club there. Maybe exaggerating a bit (LOL), but according to her it was pretty extreme on a girl at 1.53 or so tall. Still she took it all balls deep and she started choking me (while she was on top), demanding me to continue when I came for the first time. So with a dong full of cum, I kept going for another 3-5 minutes or so before the second time so she could get yet another orgasm. Memories!

She was even bragging so much about it to all the other girls that it became a talking point, and quite a bit of drama afterwards. Especially between the Chinese and Vietnamese. But also with two other Chinese girls I played chess with.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2565373]I was really not impressed by your look at LR, didn't see a NBA tall and when you were hidden in Bruggen couch whole evening, Lucifer didn't notice your look, even she was looking for business when she couldn't get me. And when I see your French bald friend here, I just think we can't experience same, some girls making free for me, but never free as he told.[/QUOTE]We all have our taste and I'm glad that you do not want to fuck me!

But look, I found a picture of you spying on your love at LR.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2565462]At 18 Sauna in Macau while getting a thigh massage from one of the Vietnamese masseuses in the lounge there, another one of them ran over with a meter stick trying to measure it. It went down slightly as the pro[/QUOTE]Replies right on cue with more unverifiable stories. How predictable and how sad. Siri Jr in the making.

[URL]https://youtu.be/Hzx8KHjQD6c[/URL]

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2565373]I was really not impressed by your look at LR, didn't see a NBA tall and when you were hidden in Bruggen couch whole evening, Lucifer didn't notice your look, even she was looking for business when she couldn't get me. And when I see your French bald friend here, I just think we can't experience same, some girls making free for me, but never free as he told.[/QUOTE]Yeah it's funny how Mr. Micro considers 1.80 to be tall. In Europe at least 1.95 is a minimum to be considered tall. Average height for men in the Netherlands is 1.83 for example.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2565342]Any sources for that?[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-sees-probable-link-between-pfizer-vaccine-small-number-myocarditis-cases-2021-06-01/[/URL]

I didn't know that "mild" was another word for "severe". Maybe among conspiracy theorist circles?

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2565483]We all have our taste and I'm glad that you do not want to fuck me!

But look, I found a picture of you spying on your love at LR.[/QUOTE]You came to me, I didn't ask you anything. Small ears, girls are jealous, and no hat for me, I don't even put helmet when I free ride in rocks or bicycle downhill, with more sensations when reaching 70 km / h than cleaning German autobahns at 250. I like too much my beautiful hair girls want to touch, they would need hours to get same. About my own image, when I often look at me in brothels mirrors, maybe they put more at Bruggen for me, girls saying: You are beautiful, some want to touch my face, many want to touch my hair.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2565500]Yeah it's funny how Mr. Micro considers 1.80 to be tall. In Europe at least 1.95 is a minimum to be considered tall. Average height for men in the Netherlands is 1.83 for example.[/QUOTE]But he is not 180, I didn't see him so tall, maybe because I saw him spending too long time sitting in couch waiting for girls. No complex for me because I understood when I was 14/15 where was power, among those hiding looking at the wall and few proud, and it helps to be self confident and impress girls, even complicated with brothels small pussies, it was much easier in real life with normal women. Fortunately for me, I m not 20 cm because no girl would accept to have sex with me, when I really have to be very careful, even with busy superstars sex machines, but: You are big and very hard, and fucking more than 20's guys, so I really don t need Viagra.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2565500]Yeah it's funny how Mr. Micro considers 1.80 to be tall. In Europe at least 1.95 is a minimum to be considered tall. Average height for men in the Netherlands is 1.83 for example.[/QUOTE]Funny how you only seem to consider certain people. Average height for men in the world is around 171 cm. Objective facts. Big world.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2565462]At 18 Sauna in Macau while getting a thigh massage from one of the Vietnamese masseuses in the lounge there, another one of them ran over with a meter stick trying to measure it. It went down slightly as the pro masseuse left it over to the girl with the meter stick, but I clocked in at 18 cm. Apparently it was a bit of a talking point among those masseuses there. I haven't self tested higher, but I know I had more in me at the time, and need a hot girl to do the work. But it was enough to get a lot of jealous looks.

My go to Hunan girl at the time there claimed it was 22 or even 25 cm to all the other 150 or so girls at the club there. Maybe exaggerating a bit (LOL), but according to her it was pretty extreme on a girl at 1.53 or so tall. Still she took it all balls deep and she started choking me (while she was on top), demanding me to continue when I came for the first time. So with a dong full of cum, I kept going for another 3-5 minutes or so before the second time so she could get yet another orgasm. Memories![/QUOTE]Remains me the stories from the fishermen, they always catch the biggest fish, in German we say " Einbildung ist auch eine Bildung".

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2565514] No complex for me because I understood when I was 14/15 where was power, among those hiding looking at the wall and few proud, and it helps to be self confident and impress girls, even complicated with brothels small pussies, it was much easier in real life with normal women. Fortunately for me, I m not 20 cm because no girl would accept to have sex with me, when I really have to be very careful, even with busy superstars sex machines, but: You are big and very hard, and fucking more than 20's guys, so I really don t need Viagra.[/QUOTE]This would be hilarious if you wouldn't be delusional. Please visit a mental health professional, you need help.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2565514]But he is not 180, I didn't see him so tall, maybe because I saw him spending too long time sitting in couch waiting for girls.[/QUOTE]I said I was tall? No I did not. But am also not leprechaun sized. LOL.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2565509]girls saying:
You are beautiful, some want to touch my face, many want to touch my hair.[/QUOTE]In your worlds, the "land of bullshits," and you believe the girls when they say this to you. Face reality, too many wrinkles, too many grey hairs, and no muscles for women to genuinely think you are physically beautiful. But then again you also believe them when they tell you their weight, not knowing what 55 kg really looks like.

Believe me little Leprechaun, they women only want your pot of gold.

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2565569]Remains me the stories from the fishermen, they always catch the biggest fish, in German we say " Einbildung ist auch eine Bildung".[/QUOTE]Every so often we agree.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2565514]But he is not 180, I didn't see him so tall, maybe because I saw him spending too long time sitting in couch waiting for girls. No complex for me because I understood when I was 14/15 where was power, among those hiding looking at the wall and few proud, and it helps to be self confident and impress girls, even complicated with brothels small pussies, it was much easier in real life with normal women. Fortunately for me, I m not 20 cm because no girl would accept to have sex with me, when I really have to be very careful, even with busy superstars sex machines, but: You are big and very hard, and fucking more than 20's guys, so I really don t need Viagra.[/QUOTE]He was talking about my height. But I totally understand you given the 10 cm dick reference. Which is his own size and not mine. But even that was an exaggeration for him as both the two girls who mentioned it to me showed something more in the line of 5 cm with their fingers.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2565499]Replies right on cue with more unverifiable stories. How predictable and how sad. Siri Jr in the making.

[URL]https://youtu.be/Hzx8KHjQD6c[/URL][/QUOTE]Take a trip there and show them a picture of me. I bet you they still recognize me. At least some of them.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2565629]Take a trip there and show them a picture of me. I bet you they still recognize me. At least some of them.[/QUOTE]How can people forget when Frankenstein's monster makes a visit?

[QUOTE=Pistons;2565628]He was talking about my height. But I totally understand you given the 10 cm dick reference. Which is his own size and not mine. But even that was an exaggeration for him as both the two girls who mentioned it to me showed something more in the line of 5 cm with their fingers.[/QUOTE]Stop lying, we both know that girls don't talk to you unless it is the word "Zimmer"? Or "Euros"? Or more often the words "Let me".

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2565615]This would be hilarious if you wouldn't be delusional. Please visit a mental health professional, you need help.[/QUOTE]I love my image, thanks to my so lucky and full of love childhood and nobody can do versus this. In brothels, I look at me in mirrors and girls often come to look with me, when I don't ask them anything. When in room, I asked some girls to come with me full naked in front of mirror, I was usually more comfortable about my own image than beauties.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2565622]I said I was tall? No I did not. But am also not leprechaun sized. LOL.

In your worlds, the "land of bullshits," and you believe the girls when they say this to you. Face reality, too many wrinkles, too many grey hairs, and no muscles for women to genuinely think you are physically beautiful. But then again you also believe them when they tell you their weight, not knowing what 55 kg really looks like.

Believe me little Leprechaun, they women only want your pot of gold.[/QUOTE]Yes, they call me Richard Gere even I have less, but playing pretty woman. When I kick in my firm with no fat belly, they look at me with round eyes, asking me to stop, firm hard from everywhere, like a black wild pig. I wish you were at least able to see, after waiting her for hours, Lucifer is less than 50 kgs. Despite curves, Kate is 168 and around 50, didn't you ask them? Don't you know more fat and water for women than only bones and muscles for a black wild pig like me, when water is less heavy. In fashion, a 60 kgs girl would have to be at least 185, not many, when most are 177/180 and closer to 55 than 60 kgs. Maybe your US standards with plastic, but EU are slimmer, fortunately for me.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2565622]In your worlds, the "land of bullshits," and you believe the girls when they say this to you.[/QUOTE]When someone bragged constantly about never visiting prostitutes before 2010 and bragged in another place that he started in 2007, every weekend, does that qualify for 'land of bullshits'?

Same thing for applying a strict 'club rate policy' when he bragged before about overpaying in Golden Time?

And having no relationships outside the clubs when he was proud of helping his first love interest when she was contacting him from Romania? And cancelled an hotel night with him?

Seems like some people create their own 'land of bullshits'.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2565676]Stop lying, we both know that girls don't talk to you unless it is the word "Zimmer"? Or "Euros"? Or more often the words "Let me".[/QUOTE]How is it to have a micro penis while having the body of a 57 year old at the age of 37? With Viagra you might be able to get hard, but 1. You won't feel anything. And 2. It still won't get longer than 5 cm.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2565810]When someone bragged constantly about never visiting prostitutes before 2010 and bragged in another place that he started in 2007, every weekend, does that qualify for 'land of bullshits'?

Same thing for applying a strict 'club rate policy' when he bragged before about overpaying in Golden Time?

And having no relationships outside the clubs when he was proud of helping his first love interest when she was contacting him from Romania? And cancelled an hotel night with him?

Seems like some people create their own 'land of bullshits'.[/QUOTE]In the land of bullshits anybody can be number one Casanova in Europe, better driver than Lewis Hamilton and better cyclist than Peter Sagan.

It's also called being delusional "delusional. Characterized by or holding idiosyncratic beliefs or impressions that are contradicted by reality or rational argument, typically as a symptom of mental disorder".

[QUOTE=Pistons;2565874]How is it to have a micro penis while having the body of a 57 year old at the age of 37? With Viagra you might be able to get hard, but 1. You won't feel anything. And 2. It still won't get longer than 5 cm.[/QUOTE]LOL. All of your insults don't affect me when we both know that they are fabricated in order for you to save face in front of ISG strangers. Common mongers who have met us both can attest to as much. Fact is, you're still ugly and that can be attested by all. But go on ugly duckling, use the techniques of self delusion that sets you on your way to carrying the Siri torch. It's your personal decision. Frankenstein's monster and the little Leprechaun, makes for some entertaining folklore.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2565789]Yes, they call me Richard Gere even I have less, but playing pretty woman. When I kick in my firm with no fat belly, they look at me with round eyes, asking me to stop, firm hard from everywhere, like a black wild pig. I wish you were at least able to see, after waiting her for hours, Lucifer is less than 50 kgs. Despite curves, Kate is 168 and around 50, didn't you ask them? Don't you know more fat and water for women than only bones and muscles for a black wild pig like me, when water is less heavy. In fashion, a 60 kgs girl would have to be at least 185, not many, when most are 177/180 and closer to 55 than 60 kgs. Maybe your US standards with plastic, but EU are slimmer, fortunately for me.[/QUOTE]Yes, the people who went with Lucy before me were my friends. We pretty much ran a train on her. What are friends you ask? I forget that you don't have the pleasure of having these things called "friendships".

That's cute that you think that Kate is only 50 kg. She would be flattered. I wrestled in my whole life and coached the girls, I think I am better able than you to judge weight.

Richard Gere, LOL. Was there a movie where he played a Leprechaun?

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2565810]When someone bragged constantly about never visiting prostitutes before 2010 and bragged in another place that he started in 2007, every weekend, does that qualify for 'land of bullshits'?

Same thing for applying a strict 'club rate policy' when he bragged before about overpaying in Golden Time?

And having no relationships outside the clubs when he was proud of helping his first love interest when she was contacting him from Romania? And cancelled an hotel night with him?

Seems like some people create their own 'land of bullshits'.[/QUOTE]I suspect that deep down inside he actually knows. Same with Frankenstein's monster. Sometimes I feel a little guilty for constantly reminding them that it is their fabricated armor in a cruel world that has always reminded them of their inferior place. The thing is, they have constantly revealed their asshole tendencies so that makes me feel less guilty. Being as asshole without the credentials to back it up is an unfortunately way to live.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2565905]I suspect that deep down inside he actually knows. Same with Frankenstein's monster. Sometimes I feel a little guilty for constantly reminding them that it is their fabricated armor in a cruel world that has always reminded them of their inferior place. The thing is, they have constantly revealed their asshole tendencies so that makes me feel less guilty. Being as asshole without the credentials to back it up is an unfortunately way to live.[/QUOTE]Mr. Micro. Wow, it must feel weird being such a beta not able to give women a proper orgasm.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2565902]LOL. All of your insults don't affect me when we both know that they are fabricated in order for you to save face in front of ISG strangers. Common mongers who have met us both can attest to as much. Fact is, you're still ugly and that can be attested by all. But go on ugly duckling, use the techniques of self delusion that sets you on your way to carrying the Siri torch. It's your personal decision. Frankenstein's monster and the little Leprechaun, makes for some entertaining folklore.[/QUOTE]Compared to you I'm a superstar model. Everyone who has met us both know this for a fact!

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2565904]Yes, the people who went with Lucy before me were my friends. We pretty much ran a train on her. What are friends you ask? I forget that you don't have the pleasure of having these things called "friendships".

That's cute that you think that Kate is only 50 kg. She would be flattered. I wrestled in my whole life and coached the girls, I think I am better able than you to judge weight.

Richard Gere, LOL. Was there a movie where he played a Leprechaun?[/QUOTE]You were lucky I did let her for others, when she came on 3 times and when she arrived at 7.30 pm. I really don t need brothels friends, I m only interested by attractive images. I wrote around 50, but not 55, when Kate needed to talk about her weight and image, at least with me. Weight full naked of course.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2565905]I suspect that deep down inside he actually knows. Same with Frankenstein's monster. Sometimes I feel a little guilty for constantly reminding them that it is their fabricated armor in a cruel world that has always reminded them of their inferior place. The thing is, they have constantly revealed their asshole tendencies so that makes me feel less guilty. Being as asshole without the credentials to back it up is an unfortunately way to live.[/QUOTE]You can keep on as much you need, no problem for me from guys I know so pathetic stories about, with your obsessed follower who doesn't know anything, bald French friend here. I wish at least you met, because easier to understand when you see guys. Enjoy with your brothels friends, I prefer guys in my sports. No obsessed followers in my sports.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2565932]Compared to you I'm a superstar model. Everyone who has met us both know this for a fact![/QUOTE]LOL. Sometimes your jokes are funny. I'm pretty average, but you sir, well, how do quantify the word "gross"? Being so void of physical attributes, how does one not acquire some degree of charm or wealth in 35+ years on earth? Your mother cries every night knowing she raised such a failure. Having a father figure would have done you some good. Maybe that's why you were so thirsty to be attached to my hip when we met. So sad for you. Ugly, arrogant, and lacking skills is sad way to live.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2565954]You were lucky I did let her for others, when she came on 3 times and when she arrived at 7.30 pm. I really don t need brothels friends, I m only interested by attractive images. I wrote around 50, but not 55, when Kate needed to talk about her weight and image, at least with me. Weight full naked of course.[/QUOTE]Um, she arrived around 5 pm when she talked to my French friend before you even knew.

You were lucky that McA told her to go talk to you. His mistake in contributing to your delusions.

Again, you believe a woman when she says her weight? How do live so many years and not know that and their age are the things they most lie about, too old to be so naive.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2565956]You can keep on as much you need, no problem for me from guys I know so pathetic stories about, with your obsessed follower who doesn't know anything, bald French friend here. I wish at least you met, because easier to understand when you see guys. Enjoy with your brothels friends, I prefer guys in my sports. No obsessed followers in my sports.[/QUOTE](Imaginary) Friends in your sport? Funny that of all sports, you pick the ones where people can escape from you at fast speeds.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2565932]Compared to you I'm a superstar model. Everyone who has met us both know this for a fact![/QUOTE]Man rips you apart and you basically just say the same thing he just said. What happened to that acclaimed "media studies" originality?

This is the online equivalent of "Nuh-Uh, you are."

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2565971]I'm pretty average, [/QUOTE]Indeed, for a 57 year old.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2565789]Yes, they call me Richard Gere even I have less, but playing pretty woman. [/QUOTE]Are you sure they don't call you Richard Gere because of the gerbilectomy internet rumor? Is that linked to you wanting to repeat your jail adventure with your Albanian friends?

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2565975](Imaginary) Friends in your sport? Funny that of all sports, you pick the ones where people can escape from you at fast speeds.[/QUOTE]Which sports? Two days of ski every two years and a ridiculously low total cycling distance on an old beaten mountain bike with slick tires, only 4 months a year? Never took part in a competition because the outcome could damage his fantasy works?

Oh and I forgot the wrc driving on the highways with the car given by the company. Everyone knows that highways are narrow technical tracks with hairpin turns, jumps and so on.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2565972]Um, she arrived around 5 pm when she talked to my French friend before you even knew.

You were lucky that McA told her to go talk to you. His mistake in contributing to your delusions.

Again, you believe a woman when she says her weight? How do live so many years and not know that and their age are the things they most lie about, too old to be so naive.[/QUOTE]I didn't wait nor look for her when I left her after 15 mn without touching her at Palace 9 months ago, but she came to me in outside restaurant before Mac and again after him, before you. I m fully sure she didn't try same with any other guy at Bruggen, if I followed her, you had to return on next day, when I'm not a rabbit, and again 1 month later at Velbert when she didn't like Bruggen rules, but I didn't go again. Remind me busy superstar at LR, I wrote her it was finished for me, but she delayed her whole week end booking and returned again on next Friday, she thought I would fall and I can only thank her for what she did to try to get me, but I already made so big efforts to return to her on 3 previous times, when I never returned to any other girl before her. But I like real facts more than words. In real life, women are proud to show You on weight machine, to be the prettiest for you, when they are in love. We may not have same standards from fat US and slim European women, but I wish you knew at least Ariana was less than 50 kgs when not full pregnant. Weight and image were so important for Kate, to even need to change her self image when she really didn't need, but what this business make to girls about their self image.

Many guys seem more interested by other guys than girls in brothels, needing to come to speak, when I only focus on girls. I remember I missed a rare fresh brunette on my last Globe visit because of a too talkative guy. When I hear guys speaking about girls or what pathetic he needed to tell me, I prefer to run away, not at all interesting for me. I only laughed when I was told bald French story at LR, when I didn't even understand what she proposed me, but not pretty enough for me to pay even only 50 for her, when all girls don t worth same rate for me. Pretties worth more expensive when I don t pay for girls I would not go for free outside.

So there are some flights from the USA to Greece or Italy, but what is the situation in the border between Greece and Italy and Switzerland? Can people with a USA passport fly to Switzerland from Greece or Italy to get to one of the open clubs?

[QUOTE=Pistons;2565932]Compared to you I'm a superstar model. Everyone who has met us both know this for a fact![/QUOTE][QUOTE=Pistons;2565994]Indeed, for a 57 year old.[/QUOTE]Okay Mr superstar model, no need for men to judge other men. Let the ladies decide. I'm doing pretty well for a "57 year old. " But explain the 2.8 rating. So embarrassing for you.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2566218]Okay Mr superstar model, no need for men to judge other men. Let the ladies decide. I'm doing pretty well for a "57 year old. " But explain the 2.8 rating. So embarrassing for you.[/QUOTE]I am also aware fat girls like fat guys. And old women likes old women. Goes to show what type of old fat American women go to that obscure website. Unless you just did more of your usual multihandelling.

LOL, I just tested that site, and only 3 out of the 15 people I got to vote on were women. Hardly something you can take serious! This is men voting on other men. Fine, so I don't look as gay as you!

I also voted the lowest score on all except one girl who I gave average score to.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2566255]LOL, I just tested that site, and only 3 out of the 15 people I got to vote on were women. Hardly something you can take serious! This is men voting on other men. Fine, so I don't look as gay as you!

I also voted the lowest score on all except one girl who I gave average score to.[/QUOTE]You took the bait. Loser.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2565975](Imaginary) Friends in your sport? Funny that of all sports, you pick the ones where people can escape from you at fast speeds.[/QUOTE]When I climb or free ride, I most often meet foreigners for me and sometimes a bit complicated to communicate, but we immediately feel our passion, even can have different level or aim, but we are there for passion, not to be paid, sharing about passion, much more interesting than sharing about fucking girls, when I don't need advice. Look forward starting, I wish with Summer ski soon and planned around 25 highest ranked climbing's, to make my Summer great.

I've been pondering about the sniping and posturing here, not because I care, but as a mind exercise. Some have super human mountaineering. Others insight into CIA / fake moon landing COVID conspiracies. Others are into putting others down on a really personal note whist resorting to "proof" of their glamor / success / wealth / etc with screen shots and grade school type petty insults. Then the professor role comes out in the same way as a dog lifting its leg and marking its territory. And personal attacks. Naturally this is all one way hit 'and run. More humorous is the predictable lame symbols and superficiality. But the bigger question is: why bother? Look at the audience. Many would class this board as losers. Banging Romanian prostitutes is not exactly something to shout from the rooftops or requiring skill. Nor are low class Thai hooker wannabes with their airs.

The investment in time and energy (that they feel the need to impress this board) finally caused the penny to drop: the louder the drum, the more hollow inside. And look at where the drum is being furiously pounded.

[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2566274]I've been pondering about the sniping and posturing here, not because I care, but as a mind exercise. Some have super human mountaineering. Others insight into CIA / fake moon landing COVID conspiracies. Others are into putting others down on a really personal note whist resorting to "proof" of their glamor / success / wealth / etc with screen shots and grade school type petty insults. Then the professor role comes out in the same way as a dog lifting its leg and marking its territory. And personal attacks. Naturally this is all one way hit 'and run. More humorous is the predictable lame symbols and superficiality. But the bigger question is: why bother? Look at the audience. Many would class this board as losers. Banging Romanian prostitutes is not exactly something to shout from the rooftops or requiring skill. Nor are low class Thai hooker wannabes with their airs.

The investment in time and energy (that they feel the need to impress this board) finally caused the penny to drop: the louder the drum, the more hollow inside. And look at where the drum is being furiously pounded.[/QUOTE]I'm sure you also can see that some of the most active in that feud obviously have met IRL and it didn't go well.

I know from other venues that it can be hard to know whether someone's forum personality will translate to IRL so I won't bother with that. I don't think I'm above occasional sniping but I'd agree with you that it's not worth it.

I really think the big difference is between posters who realize they're (we're) 'losers' because we use prostitutes and those who don't see that. Then again, some of the more bizarre behaviour is clearly a coping mechanism.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2566255]LOL, I just tested that site, and only 3 out of the 15 people I got to vote on were women. Hardly something you can take serious! This is men voting on other men. Fine, so I don't look as gay as you!

I also voted the lowest score on all except one girl who I gave average score to.[/QUOTE]That's why you select "Females only" dummy.

Numbers don't lie, you ugly. Mr 2.8. I mean, you're uglier than the ugliest girl at an FKK.

[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2566274]I've been pondering about the sniping and posturing here, not because I care, but as a mind exercise. Some have super human mountaineering. Others insight into CIA / fake moon landing COVID conspiracies. Others are into putting others down on a really personal note whist resorting to "proof" of their glamor / success / wealth / etc with screen shots and grade school type petty insults. Then the professor role comes out in the same way as a dog lifting its leg and marking its territory. And personal attacks. Naturally this is all one way hit 'and run. More humorous is the predictable lame symbols and superficiality. But the bigger question is: why bother? Look at the audience. Many would class this board as losers. Banging Romanian prostitutes is not exactly something to shout from the rooftops or requiring skill. Nor are low class Thai hooker wannabes with their airs.

The investment in time and energy (that they feel the need to impress this board) finally caused the penny to drop: the louder the drum, the more hollow inside. And look at where the drum is being furiously pounded.[/QUOTE]Right, you're the guy who sabotages a hooker's business because she wouldn't stroke his ego. Get off your high horse the next time you come around in 3 weeks.

Get off the rants thread if you don't like it. Before I have the ladies rate your ugly ass too.

Nobody cares. It's all about getting the last word.

[QUOTE=Beijing4987;2566294]Nobody cares. It's all about getting the last word.[/QUOTE]I care buddy. I care.

[QUOTE=Ararat;2566265]You took the bait. Loser.[/QUOTE]Cost me 1 minute. Then I realized Mr. Micro has used one of these costly looserproof tinder photographs. Since I had access to the picture he was using, I can tell. While for me he took a 15 year old plain Webcam photo.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2566287]That's why you select "Females only" dummy.

Numbers don't lie, you ugly. Mr 2.8. I mean, you're uglier than the ugliest girl at an FKK.[/QUOTE]Maybe so, but you most likely clicked male only while testing my generic picture.

Phallus just called me more humorous than Mr. Micro.

836 - 0.

I am almost loosing count.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2566324]Cost me 1 minute. Then I realized Mr. Micro has used one of these costly looserproof tinder photographs. Since I had access to the picture he was using, I can tell. While for me he took a 15 year old plain Webcam photo.[/QUOTE]Just respective WhatsApps photos.

Costly? Flattered that you think my photos are professional quality. I'll tell my friend that she's a great photographer.

Either way. A fucking 2.8. Jeesus. I was expecting around a 4, but a 2.8? Never in my wildest trolling dreams would would the troll Gods return a 2.8. I didn't know they made them that ugly.

Man (70)(almost the age of Mr. Micro) died the day after he received the 3rd vaccine dosage! (Pfizer).

[URL]https://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/i/oAX4PK/mann-i-70-aarene-doede-dagen-etter-at-han-fikk-tredje-vaksinedose[/URL]

Of course he was not really supposed to get 3 dosages, but still.

Remember the reports on a needed extra 3rd dosage?

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/15/pfizer-ceo-says-third-covid-vaccine-dose-likely-needed-within-12-months.html[/URL]

The real havoc from vaccine side effects have barely begun!

[QUOTE=Ararat;2566279]I'm sure you also can see that some of the most active in that feud obviously have met IRL and it didn't go well.

I know from other venues that it can be hard to know whether someone's forum personality will translate to IRL so I won't bother with that. I don't think I'm above occasional sniping but I'd agree with you that it's not worth it.

I really think the big difference is between posters who realize they're (we're) 'losers' because we use prostitutes and those who don't see that. Then again, some of the more bizarre behaviour is clearly a coping mechanism.[/QUOTE]Good points. I can admit to my own vitriol-filled posts and know-it-all, asshole tendencies on this board. The internet face and the public face are often different personas. But the most important one is the one that comes out when you're around those you care most about, not the anonymous internet one or the public, professional one. Simple realities I think (that is if you are able to compartmentalize).

That being said, labeling losers and winners here is generally, indeed, a pretty trivial exercise. Gaining social validation on a hooker forum can't be a secure way to maintain psychological health, can it? But let me tell you, putting some people in their place is often a social faux pas that feels damn good on the anonymous interweb.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2566250]I am also aware fat girls like fat guys. And old women likes old women. Goes to show what type of old fat American women go to that obscure website. Unless you just did more of your usual multihandelling.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=DrPoon;2566143]So there are some flights from the USA to Greece or Italy, but what is the situation in the border between Greece and Italy and Switzerland? Can people with a USA passport fly to Switzerland from Greece or Italy to get to one of the open clubs?[/QUOTE]From my ExPat American boots on the ground: as of now, no. The EU is supposed to begin opening up to approved non-EU travelers by the beginning of July. Details are still in flux regarding quarantine, proof of vax / antibodies / negative tests. But given Italy and Greece are open and France being due for non-vax entry on 9th of June, it's hard to see other nations not following suit within the month.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2566100]I didn't wait nor look for her when I left her after 15 mn without touching her at Palace 9 months ago, but she came to me in outside restaurant before Mac and again after him, before you. I m fully sure she didn't try same with any other guy at Bruggen, if I followed her, you had to return on next day, when I'm not a rabbit, and again 1 month later at Velbert when she didn't like Bruggen rules, but I didn't go again.

But I like real facts more than words. In real life, women are proud to show You on weight machine, to be the prettiest for you, when they are in love. We may not have same standards from fat US and slim European women, but I wish you knew at least Ariana was less than 50 kgs when not full pregnant. Weight and image were so important for Kate, to even need to change her self image when she really didn't need, but what this business make to girls about their self image.[/QUOTE]You still don't realize that the three of us already had her booked for the next several hours before you even caught sight and McA was nice enough to tell her to go to you because you staring at us with your arms crossed for 2 hours made everyone including the girl feel uncomfortable.

Wish I [B]knew[/B]? Ariana, being near the same height as Kate was 54 kg at week 12 on a "weight machine" at the doctor's office and she was much more slim than Kate. Hell, she was on the low end of healthy weight for 170 cm, more slim than nearly all FKK girls. Facts.

American girls are on average heavier than Europeans, big whoop.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2566289]Right, you're the guy who sabotages a hooker's business because she wouldn't stroke his ego. Get off your high horse the next time you come around in 3 weeks.

Get off the rants thread if you don't like it. Before I have the ladies rate your ugly ass too.[/QUOTE]No, you're the one who is sabotaging the FKK business by advocating lockdowns, vaccines, and tracking apps!

[QUOTE=Carpaccio18;2566304]Isn't this a rather peculiar discussion to have on a forum dedicated to people fucking prostitutes as a hobby.

I'm 50+, and unless you're very rich or a rock star (I'm neither), chasing women half your age you quickly become ridiculous. And even if you're succesful, you're a generation apart and most likely have nothing in common. I would never date a 25 year old, ever.

But I do want to fuck 25 year old prostitutes. Why? Obviously because they are hot and sexy. But I sure as hell would not fuck a 50+ prostitute.

This GF or spouse vs prostitute discussion doesn't make sense, its not the same thing or purpose.[/QUOTE]Do like I do nowadays. Just scroll fast past and don't read his and the little Frenchmans posts.

[QUOTE=McGrath;2566500]Do like I do nowadays. Just scroll fast past and don't read his and the little Frenchmans posts.[/QUOTE]LOL, snap!

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2566349]You still don't realize that the three of us already had her booked for the next several hours before you even caught sight and McA was nice enough to tell her to go to you because you staring at us with your arms crossed for 2 hours made everyone including the girl feel uncomfortable.

Wish I [B]knew[/B]? Ariana, being near the same height as Kate was 54 kg at week 12 on a "weight machine" at the doctor's office and she was much more slim than Kate. Hell, she was on the low end of healthy weight for 170 cm, more slim than nearly all FKK girls. Facts.

American girls are on average heavier than Europeans, big whoop.[/QUOTE]Don't make me laugh when you waited for hours and when she tried so much to get me before you and if I accepted, then you couldn't have her, when I never needed Mac for any girl when he gave me wrong information at Sharks, even he informed my LR girl I arrived and was diner. Ariana was a bit less tall than Kate, not more than 165 bare feet and less than 50 when she was empty. Did you forget she had other than You? As You told me. I agree with You American women are on average not so slim than Europeans, maybe why You think women weight 60 , which is heavy for a European woman, except strong sporty ones or taller than 180 and even young women are now not so slim than before. Also more and more fat now in Europe, from US culture for feeding, with MacDo and Cola. Preparing my ironman Summer tour, I was told 3/4 kgs make lose more than 5 mn on 15 kms 7% climbing, which is really not steep for me, so it would be much more time lost on my steeper and more than 70 kgs is handicap for real climbings, not only 2/3 kms, when some climbings are around 30 kms. I will be perfect with my great bicycle when need to be able to turn legs fast enough to make heart work on high enough rhythm versus lactic acid. Knowledge also help to perform.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2566532] I will be perfect with my great bicycle [/QUOTE]Delusional Pierrot.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2566333]Either way. A fucking 2.8. Jeesus. I was expecting around a 4, but a 2.8? Never in my wildest trolling dreams would would the troll Gods return a 2.8. I didn't know they made them that ugly.[/QUOTE]The site is AI driven. I got an e-mail describing how to raise the score from 9% to 81%. You probably got the same e-mail. So they have AI bots giving out scores based on smiling, 3 d perception, outdoor etc etc. Probably with income generation in mind. Only fools buys into that sort of thing. But true, a lot of girls also look at those things on tinder. (My whatsapp is not a tinder though). Which only goes to show that most women (also) are not real persons, but AI programs in the matrix we live in. Simple AIs. Just like you.

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2566438]No, you're the one who is sabotaging the FKK business by advocating lockdowns, vaccines, and tracking apps![/QUOTE]He must be such a powerful man if the FKK business is in his hands.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2566349]You still don't realize that the three of us already had her booked for the next several hours before you even caught sight and McA was nice enough to tell her to go to you because you staring at us with your arms crossed for 2 hours made everyone including the girl feel uncomfortable.[/QUOTE]Next time do a gang bang in the lounge!

[QUOTE=Pistons;2566551]The site is AI driven. I got an e-mail describing how to raise the score from 9% to 81%. You probably got the same e-mail. So they have AI bots giving out scores based on smiling, 3 d perception, outdoor etc etc. Probably with income generation in mind. Only fools buys into that sort of thing. But true, a lot of girls also look at those things on tinder. (My whatsapp is not a tinder though). Which only goes to show that most women (also) are not real persons, but AI programs in the matrix we live in. Simple AIs. Just like you.[/QUOTE]Okay 2.8. The first stage of grief is denial. Next comes pain, and then anger.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2566325]Maybe so, but you most likely clicked male only while testing my generic picture.[/QUOTE]Whoops try again. The 2.8 rating is embarrassing enough. Skipping to the 3rd stage of morning, bargaining, just makes you seem that much more pathetic.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2566327]Phallus just called me more humorous than Mr. Micro.

836 - 0.

I am almost loosing count.[/QUOTE]I think you meant to type:

Pistons (2.8) - Mursenary (7.7).

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2566532]mAriana was a bit less tall than Kate, not more than 165 bare feet and less than 50 when she was empty. Did you forget she had other than You?[/QUOTE]Yes prostitutes have many men, obviously.

I think the measurements taken by a nurse in a doctor's office is more reliable than your aging eyes.

[QUOTE=RockyV;2566569]He must be such a powerful man if the FKK business is in his hands.[/QUOTE]Oh, he's just mad because he can't gracefully accept that he is being proven wrong with FKKs opening up all over Europe.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2512650]Yes, we are likely going to have a long winter with late March / April looking to show the first signs of normalcy. I wouldn't make any international travel plans before May, June to be safe.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=HammerTime96;2548193]Hey Nursenary, our 'favourite rambling CCP Troll: how's the weather in China?

#) Care to comment about YOUR prediction that "with late March / April looking to show the first signs of normalcy?" (By the way, we're talking about German FKK clubs in, wait for it, Germany, and not about "the UK and Portugal".

Fact is, you've been consistently WRONG about everything; lockdowns, vaccine efficacies, reopening FKK clubs, EVERYTHING, and with your insults to other forum users you display your true primitive character and a total lack of IQ.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2566532]Don't make me laugh when you waited for hours and when she tried so much to get me before you and if I accepted, then you couldn't have her, when I never needed Mac for any girl when he gave me wrong information at Sharks,[/QUOTE]Look what you did McA. This is what happens when you show mercy. Just crush them and be done with it.

7-Day daily German case incidence is well below the popular requirement of sub-35 per 100 K. The current 7 day average for the nation as a whole is 25 cases per 100 K. It was 35.1 per 100 K less than a week ago. If it holds, I wonder if the national "Emergency Brake" will be ended earlier.

25 per 100 K:

[URL]https://graphics.reuters.com/world-coronavirus-tracker-and-maps/countries-and-territories/germany/[/URL]

Original "Emergency Brake" plan.

[URL]https://www.thelocal.de/20210601/latest-germanys-emergency-brake-set-to-expire-in-june-amid-low-covid-figures/[/URL]

They wouldn't shift the thresholds again, could they?

[URL]https://www.dw.com/en/opinion-shifting-coronavirus-targets-irk-many-germans/a-56620744[/URL]

[QUOTE=McGrath;2566500]Do like I do nowadays. Just scroll fast past and don't read his and the little Frenchmans posts.[/QUOTE]You can put them on your ignore lists, that is even faster! ;)

[QUOTE=Maxime;2566751]You can put them on your ignore lists, that is even faster![/QUOTE]Yes, you give so good advice. If all my obsessed jealous followers could follow your so good advice, but unfortunately for me, I m fully sure they won t, needing to read all of me, one other French here but with no hair, really obsessed since 2012 on another forum where I m not anymore. Followers lickers, but not on my real sports, when there, only truth on the field and the guy is more efficient than bicycle or skis.

[QUOTE=Maxime;2566751]You can put them on your ignore lists, that is even faster!.[/QUOTE]The problem is that they are quoted, answered, and every time they make the discussions diverge.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2566540]Delusional Pierrot.[/QUOTE]As I proposed you many times and same for your French bald fat friend here if You want to play twins, we can climb Gran San Bernardino Martigny side in August and I won t ask your data, but I m fully sure I will climb, but single with no followers shadows. I will climb from Aosta on July, to prepare for my ironman tour, and wish for Breuil opening to reach Klein Matterhorn to open my lungs free riding through crevaces through forbidden lines on the right when going out of tunnel. You can check all this, when I want to make my ironman Summer tour great for my holidays from end of June to end of September / maybe October depending on weather and anemia risk which could delay but not cancel my tour.

[QUOTE=RockyV;2566569]He must be such a powerful man if the FKK business is in his hands.[/QUOTE]No, actually he's a 57 year old Snowflake keyboard warrior with multiple usernames who's afraid of the Wuhan-Flu, and won't return to FKK Land until the entire planet is vaccinated! LOL!

I've seen 18 year old girls who are more brave and MUCH more intelligent in their risk-reward decisions.

By the way, the plot thickens around Tony Fauxi, the NIH, and the Wuhan Institute of Virology! [URL]https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=242602[/URL].

One couldn't make this shit up: the US subsidising the China's PLA biological warfare program, and 'the good doctor' Antony Fauci right in the middle of it! LOL!

Unless we get these FKKs open again, who fucked Lucy is less of a concern. I always felt I clicked well with her sexually, but she did get slightly annoyed at me for choosing one or two other girls instead of her at Aca once. Even if Lucy may be just as pretty, Hannah was easier accessible sometimes, and about as hot. And although I may have clicked better with Lucy (Hannah is all business), the option of both is even better. And then there was also Adelina. But I guess she quit. At least before covid.

Too bad really when a club only has one girl at that level. Which is why GoldenTime Bruggen was such a dull club. If you found one very hot girl, she either had upselling bargaining power on you, like that Asian girl who tried upselling me and McA. Or twenty guys were just waiting for her in the lounge forever. Not to mention the retarded backwards towel practice all the old German and Dutch men were into.

[QUOTE=Maxime;2566751]You can put them on your ignore lists, that is even faster!.[/QUOTE]Absolutely, I put them all in my ban list. Makes me crazy to read their BS, I really can't anymore.

[QUOTE=Pistons] Not to mention the retarded backwards towel practice all the old German and Dutch men were into.[/QUOTE]What do you call 'backward towel practice '?

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2566763]No, actually he's a 57 year old Snowflake keyboard warrior with multiple usernames who's afraid of the Wuhan-Flu, and won't return to FKK Land until the entire planet is vaccinated! LOL!

I've seen 18 year old girls who are more brave and MUCH more intelligent in their risk-reward decisions.
[/QUOTE]Nah, I'm not at risk for severe disease and would just rather not contribute to the spread to someone who can develop severe disease unless most of the community is protected. But here we are, almost done. I'll be in EU next month. See you in the club if you want to reminiscence on some of these "debates."

[QUOTE=Pistons;2566807]Unless we get these FKKs open again, who fucked Lucy is less of a concern. I always felt I clicked well with her sexually, but she did get slightly annoyed at me for choosing one or two other girls instead of her at Aca once. Even if Lucy may be just as pretty, Hannah was easier accessible sometimes, and about as hot. And although I may have clicked better with Lucy (Hannah is all business), the option of both is even better. And then there was also Adelina. But I guess she quit. At least before covid.

Too bad really when a club only has one girl at that level. Which is why GoldenTime Bruggen was such a dull club. If you found one very hot girl, she either had upselling bargaining power on you, like that Asian girl who tried upselling me and McA. Or twenty guys were just waiting for her in the lounge forever. Not to mention the retarded backwards towel practice all the old German and Dutch men were into.[/QUOTE]Prior to covid, Adalina moved to Great Palace / Penelope in Castrop Rauxel near Dortmund. Saw here there in February 2020.

My experience is that GT Bruggen was one of the less upsell clubs. Most upsell I got there was a girl pushing for 1 HR. Not a problem if you prefer 1 hour rooms anyway. Has been well reported and seems to be a consensus amongst regulars that management keeps a high service for the girls, especially the new girls in the lineup.

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2566763]One couldn't make this shit up: the US subsidising the China's PLA biological warfare program, and 'the good doctor' Antony Fauci right in the middle of it! LOL![/QUOTE]Flipping between "covid is just a flu" versus calling it a bioweapon seems to be pretty incongruent positions. A negligible bioweapon? Who would bother?

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2566649]Yes prostitutes have many men, obviously.

I think the measurements taken by a nurse in a doctor's office is more reliable than your aging eyes.[/QUOTE]I said less than 50 for sure when she was empty. I can't say when full because I never aimed to be in such situation with a prostitute. Just incredible crazy for a doctor. Some girls take more than 20 kgs more on pregnancy. Some return very firm slim even with still firm tits.

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2566763]No, actually he's a 57 year old Snowflake keyboard warrior with multiple usernames who's afraid of the Wuhan-Flu, and won't return to FKK Land until the entire planet is vaccinated! LOL!

I've seen 18 year old girls who are more brave and MUCH more intelligent in their risk-reward decisions.[/QUOTE]You forgot he sold his car to buy a floating garbage tin can so he could stay in for 18 hours a day. Meaning he would get even more isolated from the scary virus infected world out there.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2566807]Unless we get these FKKs open again, who fucked Lucy is less of a concern. I always felt I clicked well with her sexually, but she did get slightly annoyed at me for choosing one or two other girls instead of her at Aca once. Even if Lucy may be just as pretty, Hannah was easier accessible sometimes, and about as hot. And although I may have clicked better with Lucy (Hannah is all business), the option of both is even better. And then there was also Adelina. But I guess she quit. At least before covid.

Too bad really when a club only has one girl at that level. Which is why GoldenTime Bruggen was such a dull club. If you found one very hot girl, she either had upselling bargaining power on you, like that Asian girl who tried upselling me and McA. Or twenty guys were just waiting for her in the lounge forever. Not to mention the retarded backwards towel practice all the old German and Dutch men were into.[/QUOTE]If you mean Lucifer, I was really generous on this crowded Saturday at Bruggen, letting her for others, when she came to me on 3 times, starting at 7.30 pm, but I didn't want after Palace where she broke freshness magic, even I know she only followed other German girls asking extra 50 for kissing. Was never attracted by Ana face nor her behavior in lounge, when saw her weekly when going for Kate. Velbert was where I discovered Turkish girls. If ATM on end of 2015, I would have fucked so sensual, sweating, erotic Darla. Tu for hours. Had some great Turkish beauties at Velbert. Unfortunately fell after Kate, even I enjoyed just after Ina. Ro ex Wellcum on June after Ramadan.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2566914]I said less than 50 for sure when she was empty. I can't say when full because I never aimed to be in such situation with a prostitute. Just incredible crazy for a doctor. Some girls take more than 20 kgs more on pregnancy. Some return very firm slim even with still firm tits.[/QUOTE]At 12 weeks, 1st trimester, there is very little weight gain, only 1 or 2 kg. She was the same as when you know. So like I said, 170 cm and 54 kg. She was more slim than Kate with less muscle, and almost the same height as Kate who is the same height as me, 170 cm. Impossible for Kate to be less than 55 kg.

Like I said, you being shorter than Kate and Ariana maybe makes you see them different than reality. Or it is the aging eyes. Maybe you think the gravity is different in NRW than in Hessen?

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2566861]What do you call 'backward towel practice '?[/QUOTE]Only thing I know about is that sometimes management will ask for men to put on the robe when inside the lounge or food tent.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2566807]Unless we get these FKKs open again, who fucked Lucy is less of a concern. I always felt I clicked well with her sexually, but she did get slightly annoyed at me for choosing one or two other girls instead of her at Aca once. Even if Lucy may be just as pretty, Hannah was easier accessible sometimes, and about as hot. And although I may have clicked better with Lucy (Hannah is all business), the option of both is even better. And then there was also Adelina. But I guess she quit. At least before covid.

Too bad really when a club only has one girl at that level. Which is why GoldenTime Bruggen was such a dull club. If you found one very hot girl, she either had upselling bargaining power on you, like that Asian girl who tried upselling me and McA. Or twenty guys were just waiting for her in the lounge forever. Not to mention the retarded backwards towel practice all the old German and Dutch men were into.[/QUOTE]When you are travelling from far what is the problem of a little bit of upselling? Very limited financially but it is touching the proud of the guys so most of them over react even it is 0 impact on their finances.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2566914]I said less than 50 for sure when she was empty. I can't say when full because I never aimed to be in such situation with a prostitute. Just incredible crazy for a doctor. Some girls take more than 20 kgs more on pregnancy. Some return very firm slim even with still firm tits.[/QUOTE]May be but I can immediately tell you if a girl was pregnant or not, and I don t go with those kind of woman, like sili, botox, tattoos. A no go for me.

[QUOTE=YellowFinTuna;2566910]Hello Mr Ho.

I am also waiting impatiently. This organization for prostitutes publishes regulation updates now and then, the latest one states that the fuck factories in Hessen (where Oase and Palace are located) must remain closed until the end of June: [URL]https://www.donacarmen.de/wp-content/uploads/07-Corona-Prostitution-UPDATE-31.05.2021.pdf[/URL].

Local authorities re-evaluate the covid situation regularly, and the tendency is towards safe rather than sorry. If no new variants take hold, vaccines prove to work, ICU cases drop below 3% of max capacity and detected cases <20/100 k /7 the, then they might ease restrictions for the pussy houses. Unless of course the politicians take the opportunity to permanently ban organized prostitution "for health reasons". I really don't see the big problem with nightclubs and FKKs. Just test everyone at the entrance. But that would be too simple a solution for the Germans.

Note that the rules are different in the federal states of Germany, it seems as if some FKKs in NRW are opening soon. Will be interesting to observe how that goes![/QUOTE]You don't see the problem? May be just try to understand how long the virus can survive on hair, skin. Or even door handles, how you can take it with you on your shoes when you enter the FKK. That the air in close places should be renew every hour which means need to open the windows and doors for 15 minutes every hour. Have you not understand that the politicians were always late to fight the pandemic and that it is better to apply your own rules and for sure visiting prostitutes is at very high risk but if a little bit pleasure for you is above your safety and that from your loves one, nobody can help you.

[QUOTE=YellowFinTuna;2566910]Hello Mr Ho.

I am also waiting impatiently. This organization for prostitutes publishes regulation updates now and then, the latest one states that the fuck factories in Hessen (where Oase and Palace are located) must remain closed until the end of June: [URL]https://www.donacarmen.de/wp-content/uploads/07-Corona-Prostitution-UPDATE-31.05.2021.pdf[/URL].

Local authorities re-evaluate the covid situation regularly, and the tendency is towards safe rather than sorry. If no new variants take hold, vaccines prove to work, ICU cases drop below 3% of max capacity and detected cases <20/100 k /7 the, then they might ease restrictions for the pussy houses. Unless of course the politicians take the opportunity to permanently ban organized prostitution "for health reasons". I really don't see the big problem with nightclubs and FKKs. Just test everyone at the entrance. But that would be too simple a solution for the Germans.

Note that the rules are different in the federal states of Germany, it seems as if some FKKs in NRW are opening soon. Will be interesting to observe how that goes![/QUOTE]Some NRW brothels reopened on last September, but 0 in Hessen. Maybe Germans are not so in hurry to reach 100 000 deaths, when brothels are real playfield for covid, furthermore with foreigners, when Germany put UK under 15 days quarantine to protect versus mutants. SC Venus seem already open in Germany. Many clubs in Switzerland, Spain. Some in Austria.

[QUOTE=YellowFinTuna;2566910]Note that the rules are different in the federal states of Germany, it seems as if some FKKs in NRW are opening soon.[/QUOTE]In fact some clubs have started to open in districts that have a case rate below 35/100,000 for at least 7 days, you might see a list in another tread here. So far not any of the top clubs have posted that they are open (maybe Dolce Vita? I'd say that most NRW clubs will be able to open by the end of the month.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2566878]I'll be in EU next month. See you in the club if you want to reminiscence on some of these "debates."[/QUOTE]For everybody's sake (not just for us men, but also for all the amazing, lovely and beautiful WGs and club owners who earn a living in the P4 Sex business and who make it possible for us to have a good time) I sincerely hope that clubs will be open next month, but I also seriously doubt it.

Even in the very Covid19-rules-liberal Russia (where there were no more lockdowns when Russians realized in April-May 2020 that lockdowns don't work) most discos and dance clubs are still closed while restaurants and bars are open.

By the way, even scientists of the University of Munich have now reached the politically incorrect conclusion that lockdowns simply don't work: [URL]https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/06/03/german-study-finds-lockdown-had-little-effect-virus-infections/[/URL].

[QUOTE]Scientists at Munich University found German infection rate was already falling before lockdown was imposed[/QUOTE]'Infection rates' are dropping again, just like last year when there was no vaccine, simply because Corona viruses retreat during summer. It's a normal flu that can, potentially, overload the healthcare system if vulnerable and people in risk groups don't self-isolate! Locking up the entire healthy population whilst shutting down the economy (that actually pays for that healthcare system) is complete madness, as more and more scientists are beginning to understand.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2566888]Flipping between "covid is just a flu" versus calling it a bioweapon seems to be pretty incongruent positions. A negligible bioweapon? Who would bother?[/QUOTE]Newsflash for people new to geopolitics: (bio) -weapons don't necessarily need to to deadly. (see my comment above) With propaganda and scaremongering (the WHO controlled by China + plenty of leftwing CCP sympathizers in Western media) in combination with stupid and incompetent politicians in charge of the Target Country, a lot can be achieved by releasing a normal flu.

I respect that some people like CIM. CIM will significantly reduce the chance to get infected by HIV and / or STD.

But to me I prefer CIP when I believe it is safe to do so.

Since the creation of our ancestors, pus1es have always be intended to be creampied, mouths & tongue are for eating and Licking. So we should use our mouths & tongue to eat and lick pus1 es and use our syringe body part to creampie those pus1es.

What do you think. What is your preference.

Here's how 'well' lockdowns work (ed) in China, after a massive lockdown last year: [URL]https://www.reuters.com/world/china/chinas-guangzhou-city-imposes-more-covid-19-prevention-measures-2021-06-05/[/URL].

[QUOTE]China’s Guangzhou city imposes more COVID-19 prevention measures[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/06/03/german-study-finds-lockdown-had-little-effect-virus-infections/[/URL]

[QUOTE]Lockdown 'had no effect' on coronavirus pandemic in Germany

Scientists at Munich University found German infection rate was already falling before lockdown was imposed[/QUOTE]And last but not least, more 'good' news from the vaccine front;.

[URL]https://www.eutimes.net/2021/05/uk-pathologist-warns-spike-proteins-will-cause-all-men-to-lose-their-reproductive-capacity/[/URL]

[QUOTE]UK Pathologist Warns Spike Proteins will Cause All Men to Lose their Reproductive Capacity[/QUOTE][URL]https://dailyexpose.co.uk/2021/03/28/number-of-pregnant-women-suffering-miscarriage-after-having-covid-vaccine-increases-by-483-in-just-7-weeks/[/URL]

[QUOTE]Number of Pregnant Women suffering Miscarriage after having Covid Vaccine increases by 483% in just 7 weeks[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.bbc.com/news/health-56901353[/URL]

[QUOTE]Covid vaccine: Period changes could be a short-term side effect[/QUOTE]Haha, of course the fake news BigBlackCock News writes that this "could" be a short-term effect. Funny how, when it doesn't fit the official narrative,' the 'objective quality news outlets' already sow possible doubt in the title.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2566861]What do you call 'backward towel practice '?[/QUOTE]Other than personally attacking people and 'assisting' your alter-egos Mursenary and Rocky, you obviously haven't been reading much around here. LOL!

[QUOTE]Here come the Germans! The beach towel brigade.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9s8wPPmwhk[/URL]

[QUOTE=Adindas;2567116]I respect that some people like CIM. CIM will significantly reduce the chance to get infected by HIV and / or STD.

But to me I prefer CIP when I believe it is safe to do so.

Since the creation of our ancestors, pus1es have always be intended to be creampied, mouths & tongue are for eating and Licking. So we should use our mouths & tongue to eat and lick pus1 es and use our syringe body part to creampie those pus1es.

What do you think. What is your preference.[/QUOTE]My preferences are safe sex, I don t trust any prostitute, I am really wondering which criterias you are considering to make you believe it is safe.

[QUOTE=Downandup;2567062]In fact some clubs have started to open in districts that have a case rate below 35/100,000 for at least 7 days, you might see a list in another tread here. So far not any of the top clubs have posted that they are open (maybe Dolce Vita? I'd say that most NRW clubs will be able to open by the end of the month.[/QUOTE]Even it si open I will not go, I could go every day to GT Vienna but will not go there before a long time. My concern is that the people are learning nothing from the pandemic and the way it was treated by the politicians and authorities. They just want to come back to the life from before without trying to taking in account the new situation. The covid is still around even at a lower rate, why should I take even a small risk just to fuck a prostitute? Sex is not forbidden, I don t need to fuck prostitutes who are by nature at high risk due to their working conditions and the multiple fluid contacts.

[QUOTE=YellowFinTuna;2566910]Hello Mr Ho.

I am also waiting impatiently. This organization for prostitutes publishes regulation updates now and then, the latest one states that the fuck factories in Hessen (where Oase and Palace are located) must remain closed until the end of June: [URL]https://www.donacarmen.de/wp-content/uploads/07-Corona-Prostitution-UPDATE-31.05.2021.pdf[/URL].

Local authorities re-evaluate the covid situation regularly, and the tendency is towards safe rather than sorry. If no new variants take hold, vaccines prove to work, ICU cases drop below 3% of max capacity and detected cases <20/100 k /7 the, then they might ease restrictions for the pussy houses. Unless of course the politicians take the opportunity to permanently ban organized prostitution "for health reasons". I really don't see the big problem with nightclubs and FKKs. Just test everyone at the entrance. But that would be too simple a solution for the Germans.

Note that the rules are different in the federal states of Germany, it seems as if some FKKs in NRW are opening soon. Will be interesting to observe how that goes![/QUOTE]Testing is not a solution, you can be negative but already being infected, or carrying the virus on your hair, shoes. If the things were so simple why so many doctors and nurses died or got infected even some who were fully covered by vaccination. But all this is for the intelligent part of the brain, so many guys don t care they follow there basic instinct (reptical), they want to fuck prostitutes at any costs even putting their own heath at danger, a little bit pleasure is the only driver.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2566878]I'll be in EU next month.[/QUOTE]Do you have some concrete info about EU reopening or is it just your best guess? TIA.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2566861]What do you call 'backward towel practice '?[/QUOTE][URL]https://youtu.be/pDWZAu5OU9M[/URL]

Funny when you are not annoyed by it yourself indeed. But at GoldenTime it is just retarded. Do they have any social brain at all?

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2566886]Prior to covid, Adalina moved to Great Palace / Penelope in Castrop Rauxel near Dortmund. Saw here there in February 2020.[/QUOTE]Nice!

Lucy went to Bernds by the way.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2566878]Nah, I'm not at risk for severe disease and would just rather not contribute to the spread to someone who can develop severe disease unless most of the community is protected. But here we are, almost done. I'll be in EU next month. See you in the club if you want to reminiscence on some of these "debates."[/QUOTE]Oh please, you have never been to any FKK nor will you ever visit any. You're just a pathetic, unemployed troll without any friends or prospects. You still live with in your mother's basement and will never get a real job.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2567134][URL]https://youtu.be/pDWZAu5OU9M[/URL]

Funny when you are not annoyed by it yourself indeed. But at GoldenTime it is just retarded. Do they have any social brain at all?[/QUOTE]The Easter egg RE British dam buster bombs is classic LOL.

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2567120]Other than personally attacking people and 'assisting' your alter-egos Mursenary and Rocky, you obviously haven't been reading much around here. LOL[/QUOTE]Thank you. By the way you never answered when I compared the mortality rates of covid and seasonal flu.

But according to your new theory it's a communist bio weapon so it probably doesn't matter anymore.

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2567129]My preferences are safe sex, I don t trust any prostitute, I am really wondering which criterias you are considering to make you believe it is safe.[/QUOTE]HIV, STD testing. If you join some of German AO Partytreff there is HIV testing before they allow you to join for AO party.

[QUOTE=Adindas;2567184]HIV, STD testing. If you join some of German AO Partytreff there is HIV testing before they allow you to join for AO party.[/QUOTE]I don't believe in the reliability of those tests, I will never join any partytreff that is for sure and I will never do any AO with a prostitute. Prostitutes doing AO are desperate, young fresh and natural beauties will never do AO with a monger except may be if she really trust in him after a long relation. Monger doing AO and paying for it should really think about what they do and what is controlling their life: probably just their libido and the little bit more pleasure they believe to have without condom.

[QUOTE=SaratogaX;2567132]Do you have some concrete info about EU reopening or is it just your best guess? TIA.[/QUOTE]There is a proposal from the Commission to open for fully vaccinated travellers from some other countries. France is opening to fully vaccinated tomorrow and apparently Spain is opening soon / now for the same group.

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2567131]Testing is not a solution, you can be negative but already being infected, or carrying the virus on your hair, shoes. If the things were so simple why so many doctors and nurses died or got infected even some who were fully covered by vaccination. But all this is for the intelligent part of the brain, so many guys don t care they follow there basic instinct (reptical), they want to fuck prostitutes at any costs even putting their own heath at danger, a little bit pleasure is the only driver.[/QUOTE]Same way you could be positive and not infected, the tests are not accurate, and no we're not afraid of a virus that kills 0. 01 of people and if you base the total population on the active cases overall, the odds of getting are extremely low, add to that you being vaccinated with not 1, but 2 DOSES of vaccines, the chances of being infected are close to 0. 00001%. If you don't want to go, so be it, but there's absolutely no reason to keep anything closed, when the USA is 100% open, with no masks everywhere, nobody cares about the virus, and still germanny got supposedly more cases population / ratio.

[QUOTE=JoeZakary;2567232]Same way you could be positive and not infected, the tests are not accurate, and no we're not afraid of a virus that kills 0. 01 of people and if you base the total population on the active cases overall, the odds of getting are extremely low, add to that you being vaccinated with not 1, but 2 DOSES of vaccines, the chances of being infected are close to 0. 00001%. If you don't want to go, so be it, but there's absolutely no reason to keep anything closed, when the USA is 100% open, with no masks everywhere, nobody cares about the virus, and still Germany got supposedly more cases population / ratio.[/QUOTE]Just remain me how many deaths in the US, I am not sure they are a good example like the UK. I am not afraid about the covid, I am healthy, no smoking, and never had a cough in my life so I presume that my lungs are in good shape nevertheless I don t want to take any risk and I still consider that prostitutes and FKK are at very high risk.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2566919]You forgot he sold his car to buy a floating garbage tin can so he could stay in for 18 hours a day. Meaning he would get even more isolated from the scary virus infected world out there.[/QUOTE]Two Point Eight.

[QUOTE=SaratogaX;2567132]Do you have some concrete info about EU reopening or is it just your best guess? TIA.[/QUOTE]Not guessing, it has already started. That is if you trust articles by Forbes.

Germany has not opened and will likely keep Americans out a bit longer so FKK dreams are not realized yet. But Italy, Greece, and Croatia already has.

[URL]https://www.forbes.com/sites/lauriewerner/2021/05/15/italy-reopens-to-us-travelers-if-they-fly-delta/?sh=3d7003f27590[/URL]

Spain just opened up and France on Wednesday (today by the time this posts) to vaccinated Americans with a negative test prior to boarding.

[URL]https://www.forbes.com/sites/roberthart/2021/06/07/spain-and-france-are-opening-up-to-americans-this-weekheres-what-you-need-to-know/[/URL]

I'm okay if Germany doesn't let me in. Seeing various friends around the EU is good enough. But by the second half of July, maybe Germany will have lifted the travel ban also. Some smaller FKKs are already open and the criteria to open all over Germany has already been laid out. If I get lucky and Germany lets Americans in, even better!

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2567051]You don't see the problem? May be just try to understand how long the virus can survive on hair, skin. Or even door handles, how you can take it with you on your shoes when you enter the FKK. That the air in close places should be renew every hour which means need to open the windows and doors for 15 minutes every hour. Have you not understand that the politicians were always late to fight the pandemic and that it is better to apply your own rules and for sure visiting prostitutes is at very high risk but if a little bit pleasure for you is above your safety and that from your loves one, nobody can help you.[/QUOTE]Another uncertain question is that of viral load. How common is it to catch the covid from door handles and hair? Smashing junk with a Ro upstairs is obviously a different matter. Any thoughts out there on this angle?

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2567051]You don't see the problem? May be just try to understand how long the virus can survive on hair, skin. Or even door handles, how you can take it with you on your shoes when you enter the FKK.[/QUOTE]For enough to be an infectious viral load, not very long.

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2567076]I sincerely hope that clubs will be open next month, but I also seriously doubt it.[/QUOTE]Hmmm. Next month? Some already have. Austrian and Swiss clubs already opened. Smaller ones in De already opened. The domino has already dropped.

So, wrong again. Feel free to wait until 2022.

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2567155]Oh please, you have never been to any FKK nor will you ever visit any. You're just a pathetic, unemployed troll without any friends or prospects. You still live with in your mother's basement and will never get a real job.[/QUOTE]Shhhh. No one help him. Let's see what he knows.

At Oase, what is (was) the name of the resident cat?

At Samya, how many entries before you get a free pass?

At GT, what type of vending machine is located next to the exit door before you enter the garden?

At Mondial, what night is live music night?

At Mainhattan, what type of business is located right next door?

At Acapulco, what does the sign say as you are driving up the hill to the entrance?

At Artemis, on what level is the gym located?

At Globe, where is the garden located?

At Welcum, where do the girls sleep?

At Sharks, where is the kino located?

We'll wait. Get 4 out of 10 and perhaps we'll believe that you yourself have seen the inside of an FKK? Better start.

[QUOTE=Ararat;2567215]There is a proposal from the Commission to open for fully vaccinated travellers from some other countries. France is opening to fully vaccinated tomorrow and apparently Spain is opening soon / now for the same group.[/QUOTE]Thank you Ararat. I am little bit surprised by the lack of uniform rules across EU. What's stopping someone from landing in France for example and driving off to neighboring country? BTW from what I've read France is still requiring pcr test for entry.

[QUOTE=Clodius1;2567305]Another uncertain question is that of viral load. How common is it to catch the covid from door handles and hair? Smashing junk with a Ro upstairs is obviously a different matter. Any thoughts out there on this angle?[/QUOTE]There is a lot of controversy on this topic, but unfortunately I recently need to visit several times a family member who was in a ICU in France. On each door there was writing on red and big the type of variant. Had the opportunity to speak with doctors and nurses, who confirm that the transmibility is very different between the variants. What is sure is that the medical staff is extremely precautious, wearing multiple lyers of masks, clothes and after the patient leave the room you can t not imagine the measures which a implemented to clean again the room.

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2567190]I don't believe in the reliability of those tests, I will never join any partytreff that is for sure and I will never do any AO with a prostitute. Prostitutes doing AO are desperate, young fresh and natural beauties will never do AO with a monger except may be if she really trust in him after a long relation. Monger doing AO and paying for it should really think about what they do and what is controlling their life: probably just their libido and the little bit more pleasure they believe to have without condom.[/QUOTE]

Likewise Rubber is also not 100% safe, similarly with unprotected oral sex.
Well Go to SE Asia. BB CIP is a standard service over there.
These countries have been reported by another monger that all girsl he has met a re doing BB CIP

Indonesia - 100%.

Philippines - 100%.

Cambodia - 100%.

Laos - 100%.

Tunisia - 100%.

Morocco - 100%.

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2567246]She is just awful, when I see her I just want to vomit. Even she gives me 10000 euros I will not fuck her. Last time I saw her it was IN FKK First, she was completely crazy because no rooms despite hunting like never. She came 5 times to me, despite I told her 30 times in the last 10 years that I will never go the room with her.[/QUOTE]Why not? By your own rules, she is 'totally fresh' and you can be sure that she hasn't fucked any customer that day! LOL!

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2567133]I have a basic rule with any prostitute I want to be the first of the day, and that is not negotiable, you will never see me waiting for a girl, mostly or I come at opening time or I have a appointment with the girl and when she starts at 3 PM I will be the first customer.[/QUOTE]

Also the countries where you can find gonorrhea resistant to antibiotics no?

[QUOTE=Adindas;2567453]Likewise Rubber is also not 100% safe, similarly with unprotected oral sex.
Well Go to SE Asia. BB CIP is a standard service over there.
These countries have been reported by another monger that all girsl he has met a re doing BB CIP

Indonesia - 100%.

Philippines - 100%.

Cambodia - 100%.

Laos - 100%.

Tunisia - 100%.

Morocco - 100%.[/QUOTE]Always the same story why trying to find examples to validate risky behaviours. I always go to test in France in a dedicated centre for STD and always the doctors are telling me not to have sex without condom with prostitutes. This centres are free and they see 1000 of patients every year, they have no interest not to tell the truth.

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2567460]Why not? By your own rules, she is 'totally fresh' and you can be sure that she hasn't fucked any customer that day! LOL![/QUOTE]You just forget my main rule I only fuck fresh and natural beauty.

[QUOTE=Adindas;2567453]Likewise Rubber is also not 100% safe, similarly with unprotected oral sex.
Well Go to SE Asia. BB CIP is a standard service over there.
These countries have been reported by another monger that all girsl he has met a re doing BB CIP

Indonesia - 100%.

Philippines - 100%.

Cambodia - 100%.

Laos - 100%.

Tunisia - 100%.

Morocco - 100%.[/QUOTE]A few HIV vaccine candidates are being tested in some of the countries you have listed there because of their high HIV transmission rates, which would give a good indication of whether those vaccines work or not. So good luck going bareback with girls in those countries!

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2567359]Shhhh. No one help him. Let's see what he knows.

At Oase, what is (was) the name of the resident cat?

At Samya, how many entries before you get a free pass?

At GT, what type of vending machine is located next to the exit door before you enter the garden?

At Mondial, what night is live music night?

At Mainhattan, what type of business is located right next door?

At Acapulco, what does the sign say as you are driving up the hill to the entrance?

At Artemis, on what level is the gym located?

At Globe, where is the garden located?

At Welcum, where do the girls sleep?

At Sharks, where is the kino located?

We'll wait. Get 4 out of 10 and perhaps we'll believe that you yourself have seen the inside of an FKK? Better start.[/QUOTE]Only nerds remember these things. I don't remember any of them!

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2567310]For enough to be an infectious viral load, not very long.[/QUOTE]Are you really so sure, Brazilian frozen chicken and German frozen pork were able to transmit and make Chinese people sick after 6 weeks of travel that is the reality.

Mursenary:

1. Where is the shisha area at Paradise Stuttgart?

2. Where is the cinema at Planet Happy Garden?

3. Where is / was the jacuzzi at Marina?

4. Where is the TV room / area with the slot machines at GoldenTime Linz?

5. Where is the Milking Table at Andiamo?

If you manage 2 out of 5, then I believe you have been to any FKKs in Europe!

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2567359]Shhhh. No one help him. Let's see what he knows.

At Oase, what is (was) the name of the resident cat?

At Samya, how many entries before you get a free pass?

At GT, what type of vending machine is located next to the exit door before you enter the garden?

At Mondial, what night is live music night?

At Mainhattan, what type of business is located right next door?

At Acapulco, what does the sign say as you are driving up the hill to the entrance?

At Artemis, on what level is the gym located?

At Globe, where is the garden located?

At Welcum, where do the girls sleep?

At Sharks, where is the kino located?

We'll wait. Get 4 out of 10 and perhaps we'll believe that you yourself have seen the inside of an FKK? Better start.[/QUOTE]Just answer why you are lying and trolling on this forum, is it some strange attempt to sabotage the forum? You're obviously a loser with nothing better to do with your time.

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2567569]Always the same story why trying to find examples to validate risky behaviours. I always go to test in France in a dedicated centre for STD and always the doctors are telling me not to have sex without condom with prostitutes. This centres are free and they see 1000 of patients every year, they have no interest not to tell the truth.[/QUOTE]You are right! My doctor told me it's too risky to see prostitutes, more so now than before the pandemic because the prostitutes may get exposed to one of those new deadly strains that the vaccines don't cover, just before me, and then I might get that deadly Covid strain even with vaccine. He always suggested me to have a single sex partner who is also clean like me as that's the least chance of getting any STD or any other diseases from unknown women.

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2567569]Always the same story why trying to find examples to validate risky behaviours. I always go to test in France in a dedicated centre for STD and always the doctors are telling me not to have sex without condom with prostitutes. This centres are free and they see 1000 of patients every year, they have no interest not to tell the truth.[/QUOTE]French doctors advice me to use condom not only with prostitutes, but even all women when I m not sure about her and same for her, and this is much more dangerous than covid for me.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2567359]Shhhh. No one help him. Let's see what he knows.

At Oase, what is (was) the name of the resident cat?

At Samya, how many entries before you get a free pass?

At GT, what type of vending machine is located next to the exit door before you enter the garden?

At Mondial, what night is live music night?

At Mainhattan, what type of business is located right next door?

At Acapulco, what does the sign say as you are driving up the hill to the entrance?

At Artemis, on what level is the gym located?

At Globe, where is the garden located?

At Welcum, where do the girls sleep?

At Sharks, where is the kino located?

We'll wait. Get 4 out of 10 and perhaps we'll believe that you yourself have seen the inside of an FKK? Better start.[/QUOTE]Except my beloved yellow little tiger who died, I have to return to answer, maybe I just dreamed I was visiting.

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2567570]You just forget my main rule I only fuck fresh and natural beauty.[/QUOTE]Does the words "sarcasm" and "humour" mean anything to you? A "joke" perhaps?

[QUOTE=Pistons;2567138]Nice!

Lucy went to Bernds by the way.[/QUOTE]German Lucifer?