Medellin Reports

This topic seems to come up a lot so I'll put my two cents in.

First off all women want something from a man if they are involved sexualy.

All of them are expensive. Sometimes with a non pro it may not be so much money as more of needing you to take them to the doctors or going to a wedding or any number of things that men find boring.

Pro's want money from you. Yes you can take them to dinner and dancing, but getting money from you is their goal.

So now I will cut to the chase and state IMHO what is the real difference.

Pro's will go with almost anyone for money while a true non Pro will just be with you. (for the time being).

You make the call. Do you want a different girl anytime you want with any position or maybe an extra one thrown in the mix, or do you want someone who you believe wants to really be with you?

A tough call as when with non pro's your ego and pride comes in to play.

I guess for you younger guys it is a harder call. For me I just had a smoking Pro in CTG that I took for 3 days and when she got real drunk she would tell me how much she loved me. Since I was also drunk I ate that up. Guess what I perfer. LOL.

Cubanut,

Your swing girl looks like she was ridden hard and put up wet.

[QUOTE=Hioctane]I've never been to a swingers party. Switch sounds like a place I want to try! How do you convince a girl (even a pro) to go? It sounds like you must bring a girl right?[/QUOTE]Go for it. I wouldn't say much to a non-pro about what she's in store for. In the end with alcohol and lots of sex going on it all just falls into place. The girl I rented for the night had no idea what she was in store for. But during the course of the night, this shy girl with amazing tits and a bit tipsy was laughing and having a blast! I think I heard her say te quiero 3 times that night. So sweet those young 20 something girls can be! I'll be calling on her again This Friday and maybe headed back to Switch! Love it!

I've heard that all these clubs in Colombia can get chicks for you! It will probably be an older gal. But judging from what cubanut had. I'd gladly use her as a filler!

[QUOTE=Hioctane]I've never been to a swingers party. Switch sounds like a place I want to try! How do you convince a girl (even a pro) to go? It sounds like you must bring a girl right?[/QUOTE]Lets see, why would I want to go to a swingers party, when I can rent all the girls that I want? I like the word "switch" when they go from face to dick, and back! Just a pic of what "switch" means to me!

I will be making another trip to Colombia in Sept and would like to know if anyone can put me on to newer fresher young beauties. I have done the Mansion/Castillo with no complaints. I have walk up the road from the Bella Villa and met a few of the hostlers (including the guys at the door hustling for a tip), I have done a lot of casas and I have gotten a great deal of help from a lot on this site. Now it might be a final trip for a little while and I would like new fresh young (but legal) trigena, slim, athletic beauties.

Anyone who can contribute please get back with me, with contact info.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Manizales911]Did anyone hear that Dollhouse has already gone tits up? I'm not surprised it failed but I would have expected it to take a little longer.[/QUOTE]I haven't heard that yet. I'll be in Medellin September 11th. If anyone has information please post.

[QUOTE=Zing23]I have been to Colombia 10 times in the last 2 years. I have had my pocket picked, my iPod stolen by a girl in a cheap apartment in Santa Fe, and this time I was drugged by a "non-pro" girl that I met on colombiancupid.Zing[/QUOTE]Zing:

Please tell about this.

One night I was out with some regular girls I met online and had a strange experience. It was in a very hot tropical area of Colombia. Went to a disco with the main squeeze & 3 of her female friends. All very straight conservative middle class student types.

The disco was not crowded. In fact, I'd say it was 1/4 filled at best so we weren't mixing with other patrons. We bought a bottle of rum with coke & ice set-up as beverage. Two or three hours in and as I was dancing it started to feel like the A/C was blowing too cold which was strange since I thought it had been marginal all night. I sat down and continued to feel colder & colder until I started to shiver. I told my dates I wasn't feeling well and went outside to try to "warm up" but that did not help. I went back inside and told my friends "I have to go, NOW". I proved it by grabbing my gal's arm so she could feel my uncontrollable shivering. She and one of the other gals helped me find a taxi and accompanied me to my apartment. I layed down and they stayed with me until it passed in about 90 mins. About 4 hours total for the enitre episode.

I always thought it must have been a microbe but my family members seem to think I was drugged. Slipped a "mickey" was the way they put it. I never went out of conscienceness but the family members argue that different people have different reactions to drugs and maybe I just wasn't given enough.

I still think it was a brief microbial attack even though I had no diarhea. I'm in excellent health and physical condition so my immune system is very good. But in the back of my mind there is that lingering doubt.

I went out with the same girls for four more days & nights with no other incidents and nothing ever went missing from my apartment. It's possible that the bar staff could have done it but then how would they have separated me from my date and her friends?

Never had a similar experience any other time in my life.

Schwmm

We had given up this place after visiting on 3 separate days this past week and finding zero hotties. But we went last night at 10pm to meet a buddy, Xxnegrito (dude where were you?) and came across a beautiful, gorgeous spinner named Natalia.

About 19 yrs, light skin, long straight jet black hair, wearing a tight-fitting pink mini-skirt and heels. She did not appear to belong there. 25k 30 min plus 12k room. Just the visual alone was worth the session. But her service was good too. The icing on the cake was during doggie and her tiny pussy lips did an amazing thing. Every time she pulled away, her lips would momentarily be wrapped around my cock like a suction cup. Highly recommended.

Been here 7 days now and been checking out most of the centro casas and hands-down Atena has been the most consistent as the best casa. They have more good looking and doable chicas wheras the others have just 1 or 2 doables.

More than just the visual, the girls are also nicer and warmer personality-wise than the others, generally speaking. There are gems at the others but if you go with a wingman and others this is the place to go.

The owner makes the place comfortable to socialize and have a beer at the bar area while relaxing before or after the session. The place is clean.

We kept coming back to this place several times that my wingman jokenly said if we were back in the States and frequented an establishment many times we would get a freebie after the nth time. We thought the owner was also joking when he said if we session 3 times there, he would provide a freebie.

Yesterday was our third session visit and we jokenly called the owner on it. True to his word, we got a free session each! This place is awesome.

[QUOTE=Vitrea]I have not been to Bonaire but for the rest, I second that statement. Some clubs it is close 100% some clubs it is around 50% but these clubs are fewer. Overall, it is supermajority Colombians in these three islands.[/QUOTE]They are the exception and not the rule.. Most countries don't have places that are dominated by woman from another country. I guess that's why Colombians need visas to go there now!

[QUOTE=Zig Monger]Lets see, why would I want to go to a swingers party, when I can rent all the girls that I want? I like the word "switch" when they go from face to dick, and back! Just a pic of what "switch" means to me![/QUOTE]That's not the point. It's a different experience. Sure you can fuck doggy all your life. But there are other positions! Get it?!

[QUOTE=Manizales911]Did anyone hear that Dollhouse has already gone tits up? I'm not surprised it failed but I would have expected it to take a little longer.[/QUOTE]
This is the email I got from them:

[quote]27 y 28 De Agosto -> La Ultima Fiesta De DOLLHOUSE, Fiesta De Fin De Año, Tu ULTIMA Oportunidad para conocer la Discoteca Mas Lujosa De Colombia este Fin De Semana. Artistas en Tarima: Piel Canela, Maxi Morell, Mariachis y Mucho Mas, vamos a tirar la casa por la ventana, Muchísimas anchetas de Dollhouse y regalos de nuestros patrocinadores.[/quote]So yeah I think they're done.

[QUOTE=Hioctane]They are the exception and not the rule.. Most countries don't have places that are dominated by woman from another country. I guess that's why Colombians need visas to go there now![/QUOTE]You are absolutely right. The first time I heard about it, I did not believe it until I went there to check it out myself. Once you realize that these are the Dutch Antilles, it is easy to understand the phenomenon though. The Dutch laws allow it and the tourist market is prime for it.

[QUOTE=Vics Picks] ...You make the call. Do you want a different girl anytime you want with any position or maybe an extra one thrown in the mix, or do you want someone who you believe wants to really be with you?

A tough call as when with non pro's your ego and pride comes in to play.

I guess for you younger guys it is a harder call. For me I just had a smoking Pro in CTG that I took for 3 days and when she got real drunk she would tell me how much she loved me. Since I was also drunk I ate that up. Guess what I perfer. LOL.[/QUOTE]That's the best of both worlds then, when you´re with a pro and she actually enjoys being with you too.

[QUOTE=Sexmetv]This is the email I got from them:

So yeah I think they're done.[/QUOTE]I was in the place 4 or 5 times and it was always dead. The place must have cost them a fortune to open and then they had so much security that had to be a big expense. I was not surprised that the place would fail, but I am a little sad as sometimes a few hotties that worked there would wander down to the Mayorista strip. You could spot them real quick as they were dressed real sharp and looked more classy then the regulars who work on the strip. I took a few like that dancing and always had a good time with them. A few more pesos than the regulars, but well worth the money.

[QUOTE=Dos Lunas]About 19 yrs, light skin, long straight jet black hair, wearing a tight-fitting pink mini-skirt and heels. She did not appear to belong there.[/QUOTE]DL:

Thanks for the report but I have to tell ya that the above quote is a tad humorous, contradictory.

I'm sure you were referring to her fresh face and attitude. I got a chuckle out of it anyway.

All the best,

Schwmm

[QUOTE=Sexmetv]This is the email I got from them:

So yeah I think they're done.[/QUOTE]They are still advertising on this (ISG) forum's main page though. May be they have a pre paid ad contract.

[QUOTE=Cuero99]Peru (specifically Lima city) rates pretty high, perhaps better than Medellin strictly for easier non pro scoring [/QUOTE]I thought Brazil. Do you know Brazil too?

[QUOTE=Vics Picks]I was in the place 4 or 5 times and it was always dead. The place must have cost them a fortune to open and then they had so much security that had to be a big expense. [/QUOTE]Maybe it existed long enough to get money laundred!

[QUOTE=Schwmmr]DL:

Thanks for the report but I have to tell ya that the above quote is a tad humorous, contradictory.

I'm sure you were referring to her fresh face and attitude. I got a chuckle out of it anyway.

All the best,

Schwmm[/QUOTE]Absolutely.

She is a hottie spinner.

[QUOTE=Best Fucking]I thought Brazil. Do you know Brazil too?[/QUOTE]I know Brazil very well. Pros are great providers and sex machines all holes provided for a price. Non Pros ,unless your tall blond and blue eyed with Brad Pitt looks forget it! You also must speak P-O-R-T-U-G-E-S-E!

[QUOTE=Arjay]I know Brazil very well. Pros are great providers and sex machines all holes provided for a price. Non Pros ,unless your tall blond and blue eyed with Brad Pitt looks forget it! You also must speak P-O-R-T-U-G-E-S-E![/QUOTE]You sure do know Brazil very well. That's for certain.

Hi guys,

In Bogota for a couple of days checking out some intel from one of my girls. All you need to know in Bogota is "Discoteca Troya" and "Fiebre Sex" on Crra. 16A Nº. 23-50, Barrio Santa Fe. Taxi Drivers will try to take you to "Zona Rosa, "Plaza Las Americas". "1ro de Mayo", etc.... High end places, and expensive. Some of the girls that work at those high end places also work at the 2 places I mentioned.

The girls at Discoteca Troya were anywhwere between a 7-10. The one I took for 50,000cop had all the goods. Beautiful face, 6 million pesos silicon "boobs" and even the supplemmented "ass". I was not in the mood,, but just had to take her to see what the "whole works" looked like. Just stuck my dick in her, didn`t do much, just contemplated that beautiful body and caressed her "38" size boobs. Kissed her lightly, and just let her go. I just wanted to taste her so ever lightly. I have 4 girlfriends in Medellin which give me all the works, all night, without any condoms, but I just had to be inside this gorgeous woman for at least a few minutes. She was sweet, just a bit shy and just went through the motions.

Most of the girls there were pretty hot. The only foreigner I met was from Europe and he said you don`t get too many tourist in that area, he had it all to himself. This area is considered El Centro (Santa Fe). Taxi Drivers will try to scare you and tell you that it is a very bad and dangerous area, not true. The area looked a lot better than El Centro in Medellin. The clubs were filled with executive looking type Bogoteños. There are like 6-7 clubs in this area, which is closed in like they do in La Mayorista, in Medellin, on the weekend. The European guy told me that "Fiebre Sex" and "Discoteca Troya" have older more executive type clientele and that the other clubs have a younger crowd.

Girls will ask for 60cp for 15-20 minutes, I told her for 20 minutes I`ll give you 50cp and she agreed. But we were in there for half an hour, we left before anybody even knocked on the door. The guy told me that outside the club, the same girls will ask 25-30cop.

You can take the "Transmillenium", Metro Bus going South on Avenida Caracas and get off at clle. 22 (Barrio Santa Fe). You`ll see "La Piscina" immediately to your right, just make a right on the first street after La Piscina and walk down about 3 blocks. Ask for Discoteca La Troya and anybody should be able to tell you. There are a lot of other clubs on the way down, but they are not as good. Don`t need to go and spend "big bucks" anywhere else. You`ll be more than satisfied there, and safe tons of money.

I will, however stick to my "Medellin Paradise" as the weather in Bogota is miserable, not only rainy, but cold as hell. You`ll freeze in the hotels. I stayed under the blankets most of the day, not much in the mood for touring. Make sure you have a good warm jacket to walk around. Good Luck !

P.S. Excuse the typos, as I`m writing from an Internet Cafe in Bogota and will not have time to review. I`m afraid of loosing what I have written.

Frank Casio !

Short comparison from a newbie who visited 2 great places this summer. Both places are definitely worth your visit. Any input on these or similar hotels/resorts are greatly appreciated.

Casa Blanca, Medellin, Colombia

Activities outside of hotel (non sexual) Many things to do, nice city. 8

Air ticket prices (summer 2010) Return trip from NYC-400-600$. 7

Chicas availability 4 PM-9 PM, can be called for on request. Of course, with many Casas and strip clubs you won't be alone. 5

Chicas choice (in house) Good. 8

Chicas prices ($) ST-85, TLN-110 & up. 7

Chicas quality Many great girls. Limited English spoken, not so good with that amount of English speaking customers. 8

Hotel food Free breakfast, no restaurant but food can be prepared on request, lots of choices near hotel. 8

Hotel rooms Different in size and amenities. 8

Hotel staff Very helpful, English speaking. 9

Taxi prices Reasonable. 9

Weather Beautiful, no sweating, almost no humidity. 10

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Barba Negra (Black Beard), Puerto Plata, DR

Activities outside of hotel (non sexual) Some tours, town is far from great. 3

Air ticket prices (summer 2010) Return trip from NYC-300-400$. 8

Chicas availability 11 AM-11 PM, can be called for on request, strip clubs are not far away, but taxi prices are very high. 9

Chicas choice (in house) Good. 8

Chicas prices ($) ST-42, TLN-84 (fixed prices is a great idea). 10

Chicas quality Many great girls. Limited English spoken, not so good with that amount of English speaking customers. 7

Hotel food Restaurant is open all day long and prices are reasonable, limited choice near hotel. 8

Hotel rooms Different in size and amenities. 9

Hotel staff Very helpful, English speaking. 9

Taxi prices Rip off. 2

Weather Hot, sweating all day long, high humidity. 3

76

Anyone knows good Spanish language courses near Casa Blanca?

Or even better chica who can help with learning Spanish during intermissions?

[QUOTE=Arjay]I know Brazil very well. Pros are great providers and sex machines all holes provided for a price. Non Pros ,unless your tall blond and blue eyed with Brad Pitt looks forget it! You also must speak P-O-R-T-U-G-E-S-E![/QUOTE]Except for the part about speaking Portuguese, I totally disagree with you about the non pros.

Speaking portuguese of course is essential, but having to be some tall, Brad Pitt model, absolutely not true IMO.

I find the non-pros here in Brasil much easier to approach and date than anywhere else I have ever been.

I'm in Sao Paulo at the moment.

Very friendly people.

[QUOTE=Best Fucking]I thought Brazil. Do you know Brazil too?[/QUOTE]Just to add in Brazil Non Pro girls can be labeled a "puta" for being with a gringo. Many are scared to death of this. I often have been mistaken for Brazilian cause of my looks. I speak a fair amount of Portuguese but, just don't have the accent down. Non Pro girls are very friendly such as in the gym's or discos until I open my mouth then it's "Uh? Tchau".

[QUOTE=Arjay]Just to add in Brazil Non Pro girls can be labeled a "puta" for being with a gringo. Many are scared to death of this. I often have been mistaken for Brazilian cause of my looks. I speak a fair amount of Portuguese but, just don't have the accent down. Non Pro girls are very friendly such as in the gym's or discos until I open my mouth then it's "Uh? Tchau".[/QUOTE]Sounds like you're talking about Rio, full and famous for sex tourism.

The non pros in most other parts of Brasil don't have the same fear of gringos.
Matter of fact, being a gringo is a plus.

I've met many girls in Sao Paulo who had never met a gringo before and were fascinated to meet one.

The sex tourism gringo tag just isn't anything at all like in Rio.

[QUOTE=Ricker]Except for the part about speaking Portuguese, I totally disagree with you about the non pros.

Speaking portuguese of course is essential, but having to be some tall, Brad Pitt model, absolutely not true IMO.

I find the non-pros here in Brasil much easier to approach and date than anywhere else I have ever been.

I'm in Sao Paulo at the moment.

Very friendly people.[/QUOTE]Here is my take on the question of bedding non-pros.

I currently have non pro girlfriends in Rio, Salvador, Manaus and Porto Velho. I am in my late 50s and definitely was never a Brad Pitt type. And, I am often meeting women who would be easy to bed if it were not for the fact that I pretty much with one of my girlfriends 75% of the time, and none of them fancy threesomes. All of my girls are in their early to mid 20's.

Yes, Rio and Sao Paulo are hard to pick up a girl in a short (less than 24 hours) amount of time, but to call these cities difficult to find non-pros ignores the basic reality of Brazil. The place has very liberal morals concerning sex, the cities are very large (and hence there are simply LOTS of women), Brazilian men do not treat their women well, and there are vast numbers of financially-challenged women who are charmed by foreign men who simply give them some cash for phone cards, a nice dinner and are non violent. I find it hard to believe that anyone who has hung out in Brazil for any reasonable amount of time isn't thrilled by all of the "free" sex available. Of course, when they become your namorada, the price of "free" sex goes way up.

By the way, I have been to many cities in otherwise rural Brazil: for example, Parauapebas (Para), Porto Velho (Rondonia), Ouro Preto (Minais Gerais). If you speak Portuguese, these places are incredible fun and really easy to find non-pros. My guess is that with beginner Portuguese, any guy who is not physically deformed or grossly obese could close his eyes and put his finger to the map randomly. When he got to his new destination, he would be overwhelmed with non-pro action within a week.

By the way, all of these small cities have flourishing sex industries, but it can take a while to find the P4P action. I always rely upon cab drivers, most of whom don't have enough money to ever use a gdp, and hence can be unreliable. But, if you check enough drivers, someone will know where to find a hidden strip bar or even a house of girls who do programs.

Mr. B,

Great report. I liked the way you put a number on everything. I wish when you were in the DR you tried Sosua. I would love to see your numbers on that also.

[QUOTE=Ricker]Sounds like you're talking about Rio, full and famous for sex tourism.
[/QUOTE]Same applies to Fortaleza Ricker. Non pros they hardly go to Avenida Beira Mar (same as Avenida Atlantica in Rio).

Avenida Beira Mar is full of pro girls walking up and down after 9pm. So non pro ones don't want to be seen there at all. Especially the younger ones 20-30 yo.

You can still score in some night places inside the city providing you can communicate in Porto.

Are La Mayorista and the casas in El Centro closed/dead on Christmas eve, Chiristmas, New Year's eve and New Year's day? What can single visitors, without acquaintances in Medellin, could do on these days?

[QUOTE=Arjay]Just to add in Brazil Non Pro girls can be labeled a "puta" for being with a gringo. Many are scared to death of this. [/QUOTE]It is not only being with a gringo and not only in Brazil but here in Colombia as well - and even non gringos. If a girl is out with an older guy (I'm talking 15-20+ years diff or even if the guy is just totally out of her league but the age difference is only 10 years) and even if he is Colombian she is looked at as if she were a "kept woman".

Is that not the same in any country?

[QUOTE=Arjay] I know Brazil very well. Pros are great providers and sex machines all holes provided for a price. Non Pros ,unless your tall blond and blue eyed with Brad Pitt looks forget it! You also must speak P-O-R-T-U-G-U-E-S-E![/QUOTE]Most of the time when there's a need to mention an "attractive" man, Brad Pitt comes up. What's going on here, were you guys ugly in your youth? Just give me back my looks when I was 18 with the experience I have today and I''ll get more chicks than Brad.

As for your "tall, blond, blue eye" thing, that's BS, anywhere in the world, in order to get chicks all you need is skills, what happens is that most of the time, we (men) use the mouth to BS instead of talking our way into panties and other necessities.

Charm and persuasion are skills that can be learned, mostly with practice. Guys, don't be afraid to talk to women, they're just women, and most importantly, don't listen to those who tell you "you can't". Life is supposed to be fun!

[QUOTE=Bliadun]Short comparison from a newbie who visited 2 great places this summer. Both places are definitely worth your visit. Any input on these or similar hotels/resorts are greatly appreciated.

Casa Blanca, Medellin, Colombia

Activities outside of hotel (non sexual) Many things to do, nice city. 8

Air ticket prices (summer 2010) Return trip from NYC-400-600$. 7

Chicas availability 4 PM-9 PM, can be called for on request. Of course, with many Casas and strip clubs you won't be alone. 5

Chicas choice (in house) Good. 8

Chicas prices ($) ST-85, TLN-110 & up. 7

Chicas quality Many great girls. Limited English spoken, not so good with that amount of English speaking customers. 8

Hotel food Free breakfast, no restaurant but food can be prepared on request, lots of choices near hotel. 8

Hotel rooms Different in size and amenities. 8

Hotel staff Very helpful, English speaking. 9

Taxi prices Reasonable. 9

Weather Beautiful, no sweating, almost no humidity. 10

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Barba Negra (Black Beard), Puerto Plata, DR

Activities outside of hotel (non sexual) Some tours, town is far from great. 3

Air ticket prices (summer 2010) Return trip from NYC-300-400$. 8

Chicas availability 11 AM-11 PM, can be called for on request, strip clubs are not far away, but taxi prices are very high. 9

Chicas choice (in house) Good. 8

Chicas prices ($) ST-42, TLN-84 (fixed prices is a great idea). 10

Chicas quality Many great girls. Limited English spoken, not so good with that amount of English speaking customers. 7

Hotel food Restaurant is open all day long and prices are reasonable, limited choice near hotel. 8

Hotel rooms Different in size and amenities. 9

Hotel staff Very helpful, English speaking. 9

Taxi prices Rip off. 2

Weather Hot, sweating all day long, high humidity. 3

76[/QUOTE]First off I think you are comparing Apples and Oranges. If you have preference for dark Girls which are more present in DR compared to Medellin then you can compare Black Beard to Casa Blanca. IMHO even if you like Dark colored Chicas even then I would say that if Casa Blanca is an 87 then Black Beard can not be higher then a 65.

Come on the Girls Quality at Black Beard is nothing phenomenal. First off Black Beards is way far out from the main city in DR being Sosua. Casa Blanca on the other hand is right in the heart of Medellin's best area being El Poblado.

In any ways in my opinion compared to Casa Blanca, Black Beard is just a waste of time. I would rather go to the main city in DR being Sosua. Sosua has lots of hustle and bustle but girl quality in Sosua is nothing compared to Girl Quality in Medellin.

In my opinion at best the top quality girl that I saw in Sosua was may be a 7, but top quality girls in Medellin and plenty of them are close to a 9 in my book.

Regards,

John

First off I think you are comparing Apples and Oranges.

-I don't agree both are very rare places because of ''in house'' chicas. This is what unites them. I only know about one more similar place in CR and I wish to I knew more.

If you have preference for dark Girls which are more present in DR compared to Medellin then you can compare Black Beard to Casa Blanca. IMHO even if you like Dark colored Chicas even then I would say that if Casa Blanca is an 87 then Black Beard can not be higher then a 65.

-Agree. Black chicas are a majority, yet lighter colored are available. In general Colombianas are more beautiful than Dominicanas.

Come on the Girls Quality at Black Beard is nothing phenomenal.

-Still plenty of talents.

First off Black Beards is way far out from the main city in DR being Sosua.

-No argue about that, shopping is also way better in Medellin.

Casa Blanca on the other hand is right in the heart of Medellin's best area being El Poblado.

-Right, but there's no beach within 5 minutes' walk.

In any ways in my opinion compared to Casa Blanca, Black Beard is just a waste of time.

-If you don't want to go outside of hotel, Black Beard is more convenient because of lower prices and time frame to choose chicas. 10-20 chicas in Black Beard from 11 am till almost midnight is so much better than 3-12 chicas between 4 and 9 pm in Casa Blanca.

Probably, the biggest flaw in Casa Blanca.

Best,

Bliadun

[QUOTE=Rebel Monger]Most of the time when there's a need to mention an "attractive" man, Brad Pitt comes up. What's going on here, were you guys ugly in your youth? Just give me back my looks when I was 18 with the experience I have today and I''ll get more chicks than Brad.

As for your "tall, blond, blue eye" thing, that's BS, anywhere in the world, in order to get chicks all you need is skills, what happens is that most of the time, we (men) use the mouth to BS instead of talking our way into panties and other necessities.

Charm and persuasion are skills that can be learned, mostly with practice. Guys, don't be afraid to talk to women, they're just women, and most importantly, don't listen to those who tell you "you can't". Life is supposed to be fun![/QUOTE]Yeah but, you don't got his money! Tall blond blue eyed in these countries you don't need any "skills". Same in Thailand they'll breed with you just for the genes. It makes them unique from the rest of the populace.

[QUOTE=Forest]Here is my take on the question of bedding non-pros ...

...to call these cities difficult to find non-pros ignores the basic reality of Brazil. The place has very liberal morals concerning sex, the cities are very large (and hence there are simply LOTS of women), Brazilian men do not treat their women well, and there are vast numbers of financially-challenged women who are charmed by foreign men who simply give them some cash for phone cards, a nice dinner and are non violent. I find it hard to believe that anyone who has hung out in Brazil for any reasonable amount of time isn't thrilled by all of the "free" sex available. Of course, when they become your namorada, the price of "free" sex goes way up.[/QUOTE]Well put senhor. My thoughts exactly.

I've met girls in Sao Paulo also, who were divorced, well off financially, and just wanted to date a guy who wasn't of the Brasillian man mentality.

I'll now get off the Brasil topic and back to Medellin.

[QUOTE=Rebel Monger]Most of the time when there's a need to mention an "attractive" man, Brad Pitt comes up. What's going on here, were you guys ugly in your youth? Just give me back my looks when I was 18 with the experience I have today and I''ll get more chicks than Brad.

As for your "tall, blond, blue eye" thing, that's BS, anywhere in the world, in order to get chicks all you need is skills, what happens is that most of the time, we (men) use the mouth to BS instead of talking our way into panties and other necessities.

Charm and persuasion are skills that can be learned, mostly with practice. Guys, don't be afraid to talk to women, they're just women, and most importantly, don't listen to those who tell you "you can't". Life is supposed to be fun![/QUOTE]Skills! This post was for the guy that wanted to know where the best place to bag Non Pros without learning the language.

[QUOTE=El Greco]Same applies to Fortaleza Ricker. Non pros they hardly go to Avenida Beira Mar (same as Avenida Atlantica in Rio).

Avenida Beira Mar is full of pro girls walking up and down after 9pm. So non pro ones don't want to be seen there at all. Especially the younger ones 20-30 yo.

You can still score in some night places inside the city providing you can communicate in Porto.[/QUOTE]Makes sense, it's another sex-tourism area.

Like trying to pick up a non-pro girl on Avenida Augusta in Sao Paulo, not gonna happen normally.

There's, however, many many other areas in the city to take them or find them.

[QUOTE=LuckyEddie]It is not only being with a gringo and not only in Brazil but here in Colombia as well - and even non gringos. If a girl is out with an older guy (I'm talking 15-20+ years diff or even if the guy is just totally out of her league but the age difference is only 10 years) and even if he is Colombian she is looked at as if she were a "kept woman".

Is that not the same in any country?[/QUOTE]You are right. I totally agree with you.

[QUOTE=Ricker]Except for the part about speaking Portuguese, I totally disagree with you about the non pros.

Speaking portuguese of course is essential, but having to be some tall, Brad Pitt model, absolutely not true IMO.

I find the non-pros here in Brasil much easier to approach and date than anywhere else I have ever been.

I'm in Sao Paulo at the moment.

Very friendly people.[/QUOTE]Yes and if don't speak Portuguese then Brad Pitt works!

[QUOTE=Ricker]Sounds like you're talking about Rio, full and famous for sex tourism.

The non pros in most other parts of Brasil don't have the same fear of gringos.
Matter of fact, being a gringo is a plus.

I've met many girls in Sao Paulo who had never met a gringo before and were fascinated to meet one.

The sex tourism gringo tag just isn't anything at all like in Rio.[/QUOTE]Yes I am talking about Rio, and Fortaleza and Recife

[QUOTE=Arjay]Skills! This post was for the guy that wanted to know where the best place to bag Non Pros without learning the language.[/QUOTE]We are wasting out time with that guy. I mean, this is a mongers' forum and we're here exchanging information of where to find the best pussy at the cheapest price. Anyone who doesn't know where regular women are most be blind. Nobody needs that information, they are everywhere!

By the way Arjay, Brad most be famous (which it's not for me, I rather fly under the radar), but we don't know (for sure) who has more money. Most of the time, those "stars" live on credit, like in "they are living today in what they will make tomorrow".

Anyway, I'm not trying to antagonize you, I'm just trying to say that nothing can stop a determined man, but it seems that in this case, we're dealing with a clueless man (not you, the one who asked!)

Good day!

[QUOTE=Rebel Monger]We are wasting out time with that guy. I mean, this is a mongers' forum and we're here exchanging information of where to find the best pussy at the cheapest price. Anyone who doesn't know where regular women are most be blind. Nobody needs that information, they are everywhere!

By the way Arjay, Brad most be famous (which it's not for me, I rather fly under the radar), but we don't know (for sure) who has more money. Most of the time, those "stars" live on credit, like in "they are living today in what they will make tomorrow".

Anyway, I'm not trying to antagonize you, I'm just trying to say that nothing can stop a determined man, but it seems that in this case, we're dealing with a clueless man (not you, the one who asked!)

Good day![/QUOTE]True that! Lets move on please.

Well I took plenty of notes and made many plans for my first Medellin trip. I traveled to Medellin with retired monger Xxnegrito and he went AWOL until our flight back; but I adjusted without difficulty. Most of the trip I spent with two non-pros whom I met at the El Alamo bar near Parque Lleras on the first night. I stayed at Medellin Executive Suites, which is just a couple of blocks from Parque Lleras. The hotel is very private and has a great staff.

When I did head out to monger by myself, these are the places I went:

Loutron Spa. This place is up a very steep hill and very guarded with security guards and mean looking dogs. You sit in a area and the girls (7 or 8), come out one by one, disrobe, spin around to show the goodies, say their name, and then walk away. When they finished, a pretty lady asked me which one I wanted. I told her that I was not paying any attention to their names and did not remember one single name; the women were hot. They all came back out together at the same time and each said their names again. I picked a beautiful 22 year old (forgot the name). The price was 200K for a great hour.

Luna Lunera. I went there on Friday night at about 10 and sat on one of the couches in front of the stage. After two hours, only two women danced on stage and I got about a 15 second lap dance from each. And the girls did not get completely nude, bummer, I left. Went back to El Alamo, picked up the girls, and went dancing.

La Napa. I really liked this place! One of the guys from the hotel brought me there. He explained to me that the place was an "underground" club that is only open from 4 to 6 in the morning. Apparently, when all the other strip clubs close at 3 or 4, the girls come to La Napa to try to grab customers for what is left of the morning. Before entering, I got patted down twice, which made me a tad nervous. Once in the club, I sat in front of the stage, and enjoyed life. The girls came to the stage in twos and within 2 songs, they were completely naked. After their dance, they walked around for tips, and this was the point when you could touch and feel the goodies; which I did! The prices ranged from 100 to 150k.

Non-pro places:

El Alamo Bar. This place is great. It is owned by Americans and they have a special way to bring in the women; they drink free beer until midnight daily. There are some women in there that speak English; one of which I spent time with.

Le Bon Cafe. This place is near a major taxi pick-up and drop-off area at Parque Lleras. I spent some time there just watching the beautiful daily ass parade go by.

Parque Lleras area. On Thursday, Friday, and Saturday nights, this place is great. There are literally thousands of women in the bars, restaurants, cafes, and on the streets.

Lessons I learned:

Have a cell phone; would have made my life easier on a few occasions.

Rain + hills + flip-flops = bad combination!

Learn some fucking Spanish!

Overall I thought this place had some of the hottest women I have ever encountered; bodies and faces included! I now understand why it is a hot spot.

[QUOTE=Tomjackin]Well I took plenty of notes and made many plans for my first Medellin trip. I traveled to Medellin with retired monger Xxnegrito and he went AWOL until our flight back; but I adjusted without difficulty. Most of the trip I spent with two non-pros whom I met at the El Alamo bar near Parque Lleras on the first night. I stayed at Medellin Executive Suites, which is just a couple of blocks from Parque Lleras. The hotel is very private and has a great staff.

When I did head out to monger by myself, these are the places I went:

Loutron Spa. This place is up a very steep hill and very guarded with security guards and mean looking dogs. You sit in a area and the girls (7 or 8), come out one by one, disrobe, spin around to show the goodies, say their name, and then walk away. When they finished, a pretty lady asked me which one I wanted. I told her that I was not paying any attention to their names and did not remember one single name; the women were hot. They all came back out together at the same time and each said their names again. I picked a beautiful 22 year old (forgot the name). The price was 200K for a great hour.

Luna Lunera. I went there on Friday night at about 10 and sat on one of the couches in front of the stage. After two hours, only two women danced on stage and I got about a 15 second lap dance from each. And the girls did not get completely nude, bummer, I left. Went back to El Alamo, picked up the girls, and went dancing.

La Napa. I really liked this place! One of the guys from the hotel brought me there. He explained to me that the place was an "underground" club that is only open from 4 to 6 in the morning. Apparently, when all the other strip clubs close at 3 or 4, the girls come to La Napa to try to grab customers for what is left of the morning. Before entering, I got patted down twice, which made me a tad nervous. Once in the club, I sat in front of the stage, and enjoyed life. The girls came to the stage in twos and within 2 songs, they were completely naked. After their dance, they walked around for tips, and this was the point when you could touch and feel the goodies; which I did! The prices ranged from 100 to 150k.

Non-pro places:

El Alamo Bar. This place is great. It is owned by Americans and they have a special way to bring in the women; they drink free beer until midnight daily. There are some women in there that speak English; one of which I spent time with.

Le Bon Cafe. This place is near a major taxi pick-up and drop-off area at Parque Lleras. I spent some time there just watching the beautiful daily ass parade go by.

Parque Lleras area. On Thursday, Friday, and Saturday nights, this place is great. There are literally thousands of women in the bars, restaurants, cafes, and on the streets.

Lessons I learned:

Have a cell phone; would have made my life easier on a few occasions.

Rain + hills + flip-flops = bad combination!

Learn some fucking Spanish!

Overall I thought this place had some of the hottest women I have ever encountered; bodies and faces included! I now understand why it is a hot spot.[/QUOTE]Where is La Napa?

If you have the address please post.

Regards,

John

[QUOTE=Tomjackin]La Napa. I really liked this place! One of the guys from the hotel brought me there. He explained to me that the place was an "underground" club that is only open from 4 to 6 in the morning. Apparently, when all the other strip clubs close at 3 or 4, the girls come to La Napa to try to grab customers for what is left of the morning. Before entering, I got patted down twice, which made me a tad nervous. Once in the club, I sat in front of the stage, and enjoyed life. The girls came to the stage in twos and within 2 songs, they were completely naked. After their dance, they walked around for tips, and this was the point when you could touch and feel the goodies; which I did! The prices ranged from 100 to 150k.[/QUOTE]If you can tell us the address to this place it would be greatly appreciated? What time did you get there? Is it located in Centro? I went to a place before La Manzana that was on the second floor. Don't remember any strip show though. The prices you quote was it for on-site action? Like they had rooms in the back for the session.

[QUOTE=Almotu]If you can tell us the address to this place it would be greatly appreciated? What time did you get there? Is it located in Centro? I went to a place before La Manzana that was on the second floor. Don't remember any strip show though. The prices you quote was it for on-site action? Like they had rooms in the back for the session.[/QUOTE]I was traveling blindly with the guy from the hotel and not really sure what part of town we were in; but I think it was close to Parque Botero (El Centro). Prices that were quoted were onsite for an hour. We got there right after it opened, just after 4, and we stayed until it close, just after 6. My understanding is that La Napa is the sister club of Fase II; so I'm sure you can get more direct information when you do to Fase II.

Hey everybody, I been quiet for the last few months, I figure why bore everyone with the same information. I have only been traveling to Peru, Brazil, and Medellin & San Andres. I reported on all these places and I have mostly continued to be doing exactly what I previously been doing.

Ok, so I still hit both Luna Lenera and The San Diego Show and farm numbers from both. I grab girls late at night as they are both getting off shifts to keep from paying the house there fee's. If I am looking for new girls at San Diego I pull in around 3:45am and have some kind of meat off the cart and wait for the girls to all pile out. Then I and my trusted best driver in the world Ruben cuts some kind of deal with them, for me. I can't do this as much as I like because I have about 2-3 from each house that want to own me the minute they see me. So I been just texting them around 2am and tell them to come over after there shifts. I love looking into the taxi's when I go down to get them because usually 3-4 girls ride back in a cab to Bello or another neighborhood together. It's like looking into the toystore.

I have made some good friends as well both guys and girls, and when I roll into town I throw some kind of party at my place. I invite some guys and I let my friends that are females invite both normal girls, semi-pro's and full time pro's. The semi's are my favorite really, they been coming from this all female secretary school that Joanna goes to with Lorena. Lorena and I been seeing each other but when she doesn't sleep over due to early 6am school I start letting my fingers do the walking through my phone, for some kind of bed mate just for the evening. My new one is Darling from San Diego, small spinner brunnette, that has no problems blowing sin condom and then snuggeling up and sleeping over, gone by 7am if you call that a sleep over 3 and half hours. Anyway the new apartment biz I ventured into is doing very well knock on wood, I guess until the next gringo gets shot to death over his wallet. But my strategy has been well, I buy fucked up places that need either vision and work, or the seller is in trouble and must sell. I am having the time of my life with this. Everytime I come into town I try and throw a party for ISG members and my renters at my other apartments. First one went so well. It was me and like 8 supper models and my biz partner in the supermarket buying supplies. I put these future secretaries to work. I will be in Medellin with friends September 19-29th. Throwing parties on both the 21st for my friends coming in and my new friend who is staying at my place Mr. RS. Then a second party on the 24th. If your in town either day and your not a jack ass, just a cool like minded person, the invitation is there please come over. We expect nothing in return just drinking beers and inviting the secretaries over and the lovely Angie and her regular Bello sisters and girlfriends. The semi's started off asking to much money but they came down, way down by the end of the night.

I googled it can found a report from CRT:

[quote]Fase II was closing as the lights came on. Me and one other american decided to go to the late hour club named La Napa which is the sister club of Fase II. We had outside and there's a bus waiting for the girls and customers going to La Napa which is pretty close to Parque Botero (El Centro) as I see on the back of the business cards the bouncers were passing out. We arrive and go upstairs that's when I realize it's now 4AM[/quote]It's upstairs too, but from the pricing it doesn't sound like La Manzana.

[QUOTE=Hioctane]I googled it can found a report from CRT:

It's upstairs too, but from the pricing it doesn't sound like La Manzana.[/QUOTE]There's a newer place that opened earlier this year -- in Centro just behind the annex hotel to the Nutibara, and next door to the Intercontinental hotel.
it's called Ladies Club. seem to be open weekends only. been there a couple times now and it's clean and a step up from anything in the neighborhood, with girls, younger, fresher types. a few months ago, I noticed drink coasters there from Fas II and doorman said it was Fas IV. wasn't sure what he was talking about, but this does not sound like the place as it is below street level.

Genleman,

My ist trip

How is Nutibara, hotel to stay for 5 days or so, is it SAFE or I need to look into Pablado for hotels, more expensive though.

How are the location of casas for girls, price for short term or long term in us dollars?

Thanks

Arrived Thursday and checked into the crib in Envigado. Envigodo is different from El pablado. Envigado is more of a community, not as upscale as El Pablado but very safe.

Hit Mayorista at 11pm Same player's from July. Granny was still tricking, all the girl's have potbellie's'and more latin dude's this time. Left there at 12 and went to San Diego to see my favorita Maria.

No one knew I was coming, so when Maria see's me walk in she yell's my fake name and run's to me. Her friend's that my boy's banged the last trip also approach asking where my friend's are. Maria is claiming me saying I'm her's. How do you work in a trick house and claim guy's? I order a bottle of rum and a coke for 53k. All the girl's walk over and ask for a shot of rum, one girl even drink's straight out the coke bottle which I didn't like. I figure out to put my gum in the shot glass and the girl's put their nose's up and walked away. I Ask about La Napa and she say's it's in El Centro. She said it's right around the corner from the three strip club's on 53(Ejecutive, Americas, and I forgot the name of the other one). It opens at 4am, and other strippers from other clubs free lance there.

Well back at San Diego all the girl's have on maid outfit's. I buy Maria a cervasa for 8k as I'm rubbing her legs. As I glance left I see Jensey who I banged my first time in Medellin talking to a dude. Every 30 second's she make's eye contact even though I'm with Maria. Okay let's play. As we casually play our eye game I'm thinking how to pull this off without Maria finding out. I could say"fuck it" and leave with Jensey, but that would create drama in my favorite hangout. I thought about asking security outside to give her a message, but I can't trust him like that. I could motion her over to the bathroom but all the girl's hangout there. Maria catches on to the game, but I play it off by telling her how much I miss her and giving her a kiss. She then state's it's 100 exit fee for her. I didn't ask if it was US dollar's or peso's because I wasn't paying it. After my second bottle of rum I realized to get my ass home. I went outside and did a walk through of the street walker's around the corner. Nothing good there so I hop a cab to Envigado.

This slick ass cab driver doesn't hop on 43a(pablado) he goes another way that I'm thinking is a short cut. When I realize he took me five mile's out my way we start to argue. The meter is at 18k and we just passed the McDonald's. I say let me out this mother fucker and pay him. I walk about 200 yard's and the police pull up. They put me against the wall and frisk me. After a few questions I'm let go. I hop another cab and give him my address he ask's two other driver's how to get there WTF. I finally get home.

Indian1.

I stayed there for about a week at the beginning of July. I think it was about $58 a night, less on weekends, unless it's one of the holiday weekends. They claim it was the first hotel built in Medellin, and it could use an upgrade. But it's clean, the staff is friendly, and the security is good.

I always felt safe around the area during the day, but I was told to avoid walking around at night. You can walk to most of the casas in fifteen minutes, or they have secure taxis in front where they write down the number of the taxi that you take. The pool area looks rather nice (though I never used it), and the weight room is full of 1970's equipment (I was desperate for a workout, and I managed with what they had).

So, the place is conveniently located for the center of Medellin, right near a metro stop, it's clean, good security, friendly, and not a bad price for what you get if you want to spend most of your time hitting the casas. It's dated, but I found it kind of charming in a historic kind of way.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo]Well back at San Diego all the girl's have on maid outfit's. I buy Maria a cervasa for 8k as I'm rubbing her legs. As I glance left I see Jensey who I banged my first time in Medellin talking to a dude. Every 30 second's she make's eye contact even though I'm with Maria. Okay let's play. As we casually play our eye game I'm thinking how to pull this off without Maria finding out. I could say"fuck it" and leave with Jensey, but that would create drama in my favorite hangout. I thought about asking security outside to give her a message, but I can't trust him like that. I could motion her over to the bathroom but all the girl's hangout there. Maria catches on to the game, but I play it off by telling her how much I miss her and giving her a kiss. She then state's it's 100 exit fee for her. I didn't ask if it was US dollar's or peso's because I wasn't paying it. After my second bottle of rum I realized to get my ass home. I went outside and did a walk through of the street walker's around the corner. Nothing good there so I hop a cab to Envigado.

This slick ass cab driver doesn't hop on 43a(pablado) he goes another way that I'm thinking is a short cut. When I realize he took me five mile's out my way we start to argue. The meter is at 18k and we just passed the McDonald's. I say let me out this mother fucker and pay him. I walk about 200 yard's and the police pull up. They put me against the wall and frisk me. After a few questions I'm let go. I hop another cab and give him my address he ask's two other driver's how to get there WTF. I finally get home.[/QUOTE]Gents,

Please shoot me if I ever post something that indicates that I give 2 shits what a hooker in a Strip Joint thinks of me if I want to fuck another girl in the same joint. LOL, I can't even think what "drama' this would cause. The drama "if at all" possibly is only the one implanted in one's naive mind.

Aside from that, I only once had a taxi driver go the "long" way from a spot I knew all too well how to get back from. So when we got to where I was going, I "calmly" said to the driver that I had taken many, many taxis from and to where I was going and it always cost about $xx amount. With that said I handed him the amount that I had stated it "should" cost as opposed to the amount on the meter. Not a word came from the taxi driver as I walked away and he left with no incident at all.

BTW- The only problem with going to La Napa at 4:00am is that it is 4:00am. What kind of session or TLN can one hope for. The girls are wore out from the night. But I'm sure they are willing to still take you money for a lame tired ass session. Best to set up something for later in the evening before they go into work again.

Cheers,

Cubanut

[QUOTE=Indian1]Genleman,

My ist trip

How is Nutibara, hotel to stay for 5 days or so, is it SAFE or I need to look into Pablado for hotels, more expensive though.

How are the location of casas for girls, price for short term or long term in us dollars?

Thanks[/QUOTE]Indian1,

I would have to question why you are thinking of staying in Nutibara as this is your 1st trip. Do you speak any Spanish? You can bet that you will not have English speaking staff at hotels there to assist should the need arise.

Sure Poblado is more expensive but it's only for 5 DAYS! How much of a bank can that break?

The location for casas is great no matter where you are in Medellin. Always just a taxi ride away. Prices "generally" range from $15 USD to $90 USD depending on the casa and the time spent and or take out. As always YMMV.

But you really should take "some" time and read the vast information in the Medellin Lists section regarding casas.

And yes I'm going to say it "again" the best place for the 1st timer to stay is Casa Blanca (see their thread below). And just in case you don't have "or want" the time to read, just go to medellinmansion.com and call or email the ever so cute Sara and make a booking.

Cheers,

Cubanut

damn rain and lightning at 11pm i'm at my usual spot san diego. i got darly and karen sitting with me as i watch louisa dance. she is the chick with the tatoo on her leg. i've banged darly and karen but louisa is a keeper. as she dance's she make's eye contact, which is all the approval i need.

first let me explain my history. my grand dad owned a strip club in dc on eastern ave. i lost my virginity at 14 to a stripper who was between free bassing episoides. so i love a good performer.

anyway i slide louisa my number and we agree to meet for an afternoon delight. she is so fine i begin to understand how guy's go soft. as she come's in the crib i'm mesmerized by her beautiful. i can't fuck this up.

i take a shower and she doe's the same. all the cardio and working out is paying dues. i walk up behind her and kiss her neck but i'm worried about her fucking up the mood with that condom blow job talk. but i got a surprise for her courtesy of black sultan. one day at four rose's bar in sosua in 08 he peeped game. more on that later.

after i kiss her neck to weeken her i slide my tongue down her back. i slide her pantie's off as she gyrate's with antisapation. yeah black sultan told me about munching ass. this is reserved for the special one's. as my tongue dart's in her ass i feel her relax. i was expecting a fart in my face as she moaned. the thing about munching ass is that you have to back it up with a hard dick. i move around to her face with the moment of truth. if i munch your ass are you going to give me a bbcbj?

she gobble's it up. i escort her to the bed as my tongue is in her ear lobe. i push her on the bed and spread her leg's, pure pussy open and waiting. i wanted to go bare back but i keep condom's on the bed stand. the good in me reached for the condom. i strapped up and mounted her missionary. if i can do 60 on the cardio machine i can atleast pound her for 10. she lose's her mind tense's and everyting is soaking wet. we do doggie, reverse cowgirl and everything and i can't come. ohh i forgot to mention i took a half a cialias for lunch.

this chick is in a zone she came twice but i can't cum and call a timeout. she take's the condom off washes my dick with a wash cloth then start's sucking. i want the ass but she say's not til were married. i fake a nut, roll over and chill.

i wake up with a hard on and hump her leg. i'm ready to go bareback but at the last minute she reach's for the condom on the dresser. we finish and i don't want to ever leave her. i give her 220k and walk her out. if i wasn't a selfish mother fucker i would sell the farm and move to colombia to be with her.

Indian1,

Adding another take related to CubaNut's response:

I reported on Nutibara in the Accomodations section. I liked it in many ways but my recent stay at Casa Blanca 1 was far more enjoyable and for me easily well worth the extra bucks. My next MDE arrival on Thanksgiving holiday I have booked at Casa Blanca 2 - I doubt I would return to a centro accommodation for any future trip.

You should also consider, unless you are a strictly budget monger looking to casa and mayorista scenes for very cheap play, the value added by the mansion girls on site at CB1 available to any guest staying at CB1 and CB2. These girls are for me an excellent value considering their looks and performance, and the fact that you do not have to consider a number of extra expenses that come with a strip-club pull or a takeout from, say, Casa de Piedra - taxi expenses, girl drink prices, and salida.

A Poblado apartment is also a decent option and I like having a big space, quiet and privacy, and my own kitchen- but the availability of the mansion girls as a guest at CB1 or 2 is significant to me. Being able to pass some of the in-between time bs-ing with other mongers at either of the Casa Blancas is also nice but personally being a private, quiet person myself, other than an occasional hunting tip or girl recommendation that aspect I can take or leave. The main objective of my trips is memorable GFE with hot girls at reasonable cost wherever and however I can get it.

[QUOTE=Indian1]Genleman,

My ist trip

How is Nutibara, hotel to stay for 5 days or so, is it SAFE or I need to look into Pablado for hotels, more expensive though.

How are the location of casas for girls, price for short term or long term in us dollars?

Thanks[/QUOTE]Most recent stay at Nutibara was 26-29 August and I was only landed there because the Gran Hotel was full. The Gran IMO is better. Gran has bigger rooms, free internet in room, and is roughly the same rate. Joiner fees in both run about 40,ooo pesos. As for the neighborhood after dark, unless you look and act like you just dropped in from another planet, there's no reason to be scared to death to go outside after dark.

I just finished two weeks trip in Colombia including eight days in Medellin. When it comes to hotels/casas/chicas, I think it is a personal choice depending on lot of factor. On this site, there is lot of information and options, and it is hard to provide recommendation because personal choices will always vary. This is just my opinion:

El Centro: In El Centro, in the same area close to Nutibara there is an another hotel “Hotel Botero Plaza” where I stayed for couple of nights. In general, this area is noisy and very high risk during the night. Even during the day, you have to be careful especially around “Parque Bolívar”. On their website, Hotel Botero Plaza has lowest rate of 118k, but when I called they quoted me 85k including taxes, breakfast and parking. In addition, they charged me 25k for the girl to stay overnight. During my stay, staff was very nice and moved me to 14th floor when I complained about street noise. During this move, I left one my credit card in the previous room, but the cleaning staff found it and brought me back. These hotels are very close to metro station “ Parque Berrío”, numerous casas, and a block from strip clubs Las Americas, Club Maracaibo, and La Barra/Ejecutivo on Calle 53.

Laureles: During first two nights at Hotel Botero Plaza, I continued to talk to other mongers and girls about the places to stay, and I decided to move to “Laureles” where two very nice mongers were already staying in a “Hotel Villa Real”, and I believe they were paying around 50k, just a block from metro “Estadio” and there was about 30k additional fee for the girl to stay overnight. After searching, I decided to stay at “Hotel Laureles 70” for 95k cash including breakfast, taxes and car parking and no fee for short visits, but may be for overnight stays. It is few blocks away from metro station (Estadio), but it was an easy walk for me. The “Carrera 70” or “La 70” in general is the area between metro station “Estadio” and “Universidad Pontificia Bolivariana”-map attached, and has about 20 hotels including some on the side streets. La 70 has wide sidewalks with a bike lane, venders and cafees, and is very safe, but I will not suggest walking alone late at night. During my search, I was quoted varying hotel prices 40k-130k. Again, you will find information about this area here saying that it is hassle to get to and from, but I liked it.

Mayorista: We took some girls from Mayrista (called 85) to a very clean hotel in this area called “Hotel Alcaraván. They charged us 20k for 2 hours, but they did not ask for any identification or deposit, and just gave keys to the room. We simply left when done, and I found the room keys next day in my pocket which I forgot to return. This hotel seems to very convenient to action at Mayorista, but the security may be an issue.

[QUOTE=Jak]Indian1.

I stayed there for about a week at the beginning of July. I think it was about $58 a night, less on weekends, unless it's one of the holiday weekends. They claim it was the first hotel built in Medellin, and it could use an upgrade. But it's clean, the staff is friendly, and the security is good.

I always felt safe around the area during the day, but I was told to avoid walking around at night. You can walk to most of the casas in fifteen minutes, or they have secure taxis in front where they write down the number of the taxi that you take. The pool area looks rather nice (though I never used it), and the weight room is full of 1970's equipment (I was desperate for a workout, and I managed with what they had).

So, the place is conveniently located for the center of Medellin, right near a metro stop, it's clean, good security, friendly, and not a bad price for what you get if you want to spend most of your time hitting the casas. It's dated, but I found it kind of charming in a historic kind of way.[/QUOTE]

Just back about a week from the Medellin Paradise. Landed on a Thursday night, was staying at the Mansion for the weekends and filled in the gap with a stay at what is the formerly Laureles Penthouse (now a 3 bedroom apt that doubles as a webcam studio, more on this later). First stop, Fase Dos, which turned out to be lack luster. Not a whole lot of talent that night, however I did see a former porn star that appeared in the web site XXXboss.com. She's seen better days, I heard from one of the mongers there that her boobs really sag a whole lot these days. We called it night about 3am.

Day 2: After the Mansion breakfast, we headed out on a casa run with Boyd at about 10: 30am to get the chicas as they are arriving to work. After a few line-ups at a few casas we decided to session at Atena's. At 30k Cop, we could have done the whole line-up that day. I sessioned with Sara, BBBJ, great session to start the trip. We ended up going to Atena's about 4 different times on this trip. Got to know the owner Jesus (go figure), after one of our (my wing man was Dos Lunas) sessions we were having a few beers and chit chating with J, I mentioned (jokingly) with all the business we were bring him maybe he could give us freeby. To our suprise he said if we session 3 times he would give us a freeby. I said I'll take you up on this. As we were finishing our beers a few girls came by from J's other location. A chica named Luisa came over and started grinding me to the point where I told J I'm going to invoke my freeby right know. He said go for it. At this point I'm thinking to myself this really is paradise.

After our first casa run we made our way back to the Mansion to check out Friday nights line up. There was some pretty good talent there. I chose a chica named Sara (alot of Sara's this trip) she was 25 yrs old. I was horny she was horny, it was one wild session. There was slim everywhere. Awesome. Got a few numbers from some of the other girls there that night. We ended the night at Luna lunera. Sessioned with this morena (what's her name) had between a see and the cups, had a little bit of a gut, but not bad.

Day 3, had a session with the famous Liza from the Mansion. I Brought along a massager. Was a great session. An 1 hr or 2 later the Saturday Mansion line up was arriving. Got a few digits from the chicas and decided to session with Diana. This girl is a real dynamo. No matter what position she was in, she moved her hips to meet you (as they say in Brazil "Gostosa"). I'll have to say the Mansion girls were pretty good this trip. After dinner at Parque LLeras, we headed over to barrio Colombia. Alot of drunk chicas there. Girls were smoking weed inside the clubs. Pretty insane.

Oh well, running out of time. Will finish report later.

It sounds like where the Fase ll girls go after 4AM. It`s located in the basement of the Element`s Spa. Beautiful place with red leather sofas all over and the Fase ll cuties.

Frank Casio !

[QUOTE=Almotu]If you can tell us the address to this place it would be greatly appreciated? What time did you get there? Is it located in Centro? I went to a place before La Manzana that was on the second floor. Don't remember any strip show though. The prices you quote was it for on-site action? Like they had rooms in the back for the session.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Cubanut]Gents,

Please shoot me if I ever post something that indicates that I give 2 shits what a hooker in a Strip Joint thinks of me if I want to fuck another girl in the same joint. LOL, I can't even think what "drama' this would cause. The drama "if at all" possibly is only the one implanted in one's naive mind.

Aside from that, I only once had a taxi driver go the "long" way from a spot I knew all too well how to get back from. So when we got to where I was going, I "calmly" said to the driver that I had taken many, many taxis from and to where I was going and it always cost about $xx amount. With that said I handed him the amount that I had stated it "should" cost as opposed to the amount on the meter. Not a word came from the taxi driver as I walked away and he left with no incident at all.

BTW- The only problem with going to La Napa at 4:00am is that it is 4:00am. What kind of session or TLN can one hope for. The girls are wore out from the night. But I'm sure they are willing to still take you money for a lame tired ass session. Best to set up something for later in the evening before they go into work again.

Cheers,

Cubanut[/QUOTE]Señor Cubanut:

No problem dude, I got your back. JUST Kidding!

And BTW, too funny.

Just now getting up off the floor recovering from a laugh fit.

All the best, Schwmm

[QUOTE=Cubanut]Gents,

Please shoot me if I ever post something that indicates that I give 2 shits what a hooker in a Strip Joint thinks of me if I want to fuck another girl in the same joint. LOL, I can't even think what "drama' this would cause. The drama "if at all" possibly is only the one implanted in one's naive mind.

Aside from that, I only once had a taxi driver go the "long" way from a spot I knew all too well how to get back from. So when we got to where I was going, I "calmly" said to the driver that I had taken many, many taxis from and to where I was going and it always cost about $xx amount. With that said I handed him the amount that I had stated it "should" cost as opposed to the amount on the meter. Not a word came from the taxi driver as I walked away and he left with no incident at all.

BTW- The only problem with going to La Napa at 4:00am is that it is 4:00am. What kind of session or TLN can one hope for. The girls are wore out from the night. But I'm sure they are willing to still take you money for a lame tired ass session. Best to set up something for later in the evening before they go into work again.

Cheers,

Cubanut[/QUOTE]Gents,

Please shoot me twice if I ever post about hunting trannies and seeing their dick. Now were even back to positive shit.

Different mongers have different styles. I would never go into my main hangout slanging dick and acting like I don't give a fuck. I would use more discreet measure's. My angle is that I'm different from the guy's who don't give a fuck.

You should be given credit for the way you resolved the cab situation. But I didn't feel like making a stand over 5usd, after my objection had been noted.

I agree 100% with your comment about La napa.

Cheers

[QUOTE=Schwmmr]Señor Cubanut:

No problem dude, I got your back. JUST Kidding!

And BTW, too funny.

Just now getting up off the floor recovering from a laugh fit.

All the best, Schwmm[/QUOTE]" You got his back", are you his girlfriend? Just kidding, now i´m rolling on the floor laughing at your fake rescue attempt.

Real talk, be nice so we don´t have to take up everyone´s time with a flamming war.

[QUOTE=Golfinho]There's a newer place that opened earlier this year -- in Centro just behind the annex hotel to the Nutibara, and next door to the Intercontinental hotel.

it's called Ladies Club. seem to be open weekends only. been there a couple times now and it's clean and a step up from anything in the neighborhood, with girls, younger, fresher types. a few months ago, I noticed drink coasters there from Fas II and doorman said it was Fas IV. wasn't sure what he was talking about, but this does not sound like the place as it is below street level.[/QUOTE]Sweet. It looks like more pick up type spots are opening up in Medellin! If you have an address, please post it the lists section.

[QUOTE=Dogman1]Just back about a week from the Medellin Paradise. Landed on a Thursday night, was staying at the Mansion for the weekends and filled in the gap with a stay at what is the formerly Laureles Penthouse (now a 3 bedroom apt that doubles as a webcam studio, more on this later). First stop, Fase Dos, which turned out to be lack luster. Not a whole lot of talent that night, however I did see a former porn star that appeared in the web site XXXboss.com. She's seen better days, I heard from one of the mongers there that her boobs really sag a whole lot these days. We called it night about 3am.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report! What's the name of the girl at Fase II that is XXXBoss? I wonder if Esperanza Gomez is in a stripclub or casa. LOL

[QUOTE=Cubanut]BTW- The only problem with going to La Napa at 4:00am is that it is 4:00am. What kind of session or TLN can one hope for. The girls are wore out from the night. But I'm sure they are willing to still take you money for a lame tired ass session. Best to set up something for later in the evening before they go into work again.

Cheers,

Cubanut[/QUOTE]I respectfully disagree. To me. A TLN is 8 hours minimum. Whether it's 12AM to 8AM or 4AM to 12PM. I negotiate accordingly. Even if it's for 3-4 hours. Most of these places are asking for 100k for TLN. Even for a ST of 3-4 hours it's not bad. Most of the time the first session is still pretty good. Some might be tired after the first time, but that's ok. I let her sleep a couple of hours and we go at it again. And there's nothing like knocking that morning wood out of the way without getting out of bed!

[QUOTE=Hioctane]I respectfully disagree. To me. A TLN is 8 hours minimum. Whether it's 12AM to 8AM or 4AM to 12PM. I negotiate accordingly. Even if it's for 3-4 hours. Most of these places are asking for 100k for TLN. Even for a ST of 3-4 hours it's not bad. Most of the time the first session is still pretty good. Some might be tired after the first time, but that's ok. I let her sleep a couple of hours and we go at it again. And there's nothing like knocking that morning wood out of the way without getting out of bed![/QUOTE]This a touchy subject that needs to be thoroughly PRE-NEGOTIATED because some chicas regardless of what time you get in think that the crack of dawn first hint of sun is a TLN or will make some bullshit excuse like they have to get home to take the kids to school and make them breakfast, some few others will pass out along with you and leave in the early afternoon when you wake up. I like to take a shower while they are sound asleep because I dont like the girl up and around my room while I am occupied in the shower. So unless you want to be disappointed do both of yourselves a favor and avoid the drama by pre-negotiating the time frame.

[QUOTE=Hioctane]And there's nothing like knocking that morning wood out of the way without getting out of bed![/QUOTE]I think you can forget about knocking that morning wood out of the way during a TLN if you arrive at La Napa at 4 AM. What time will you be back in your place with the chica?

[QUOTE=Hioctane]Thanks for the report! What's the name of the girl at Fase II that is XXXBoss? I wonder if Esperanza Gomez is in a stripclub or casa. LOL[/QUOTE]I wish you could get a pump with Esperanza Gomez! She is TOOO FINEEE!

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo].

... Different mongers have different styles. I would never go into my main hangout slanging dick and acting like I don't give a fuck. I would use more discreet measure's. My angle is that I'm different from the guy's who don't give a fuck ...[/QUOTE]I'm with ya amigo, we all have our own style.

I personally don't like to cause drama either.

As we all know, there is real jealousy and drama in these clubs with these chicas.
The skill is in how to handle it.

PS ... your line about the trannies had me LMAO.

[QUOTE=Menteng]I think you can forget about knocking that morning wood out of the way during a TLN if you arrive at La Napa at 4 AM. What time will you be back in your place with the chica?[/QUOTE]By "morning wood" I mean the first nut of the day after I wake up. So if I get back at at 4-5AM, then the morning nut will be around noon. Maybe earlier because I'm OK with 5-6 hours sleep.

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver]This a touchy subject that needs to be thoroughly PRE-NEGOTIATED because some chicas regardless of what time you get in think that the crack of dawn first hint of sun is a TLN or will make some bullshit excuse like they have to get home to take the kids to school and make them breakfast, some few others will pass out along with you and leave in the early afternoon when you wake up. I like to take a shower while they are sound asleep because I dont like the girl up and around my room while I am occupied in the shower. So unless you want to be disappointed do both of yourselves a favor and avoid the drama by pre-negotiating the time frame.[/QUOTE]Yes, time needs to be pre-negotiated. I've also learned that you also need to pre-negotiate nuts because some feel that a TLN means a nut at night and one in the morning! As for worrying about the girl up and around in your room, it has been discussed before. Maybe not here. But the consensus is lock up everything! No matter how well you know her. Temptation is a *****!

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo]Gents,

Different mongers have different styles. I would never go into my main hangout slanging dick and acting like I don't give a fuck. I would use more discreet measure's. My angle is that I'm different from the guy's who don't give a fuck.[/QUOTE]Mr Gogo,

Different Mongers DO have different styles. That was the point I was making.

I NEVER said that you or anyone else should do as I do. I also never said that you should change your way. No, not at all, if it works for you then have at it, mate.

However, not caring about the drama does not mean being crude or rude. There are several subtle and effective ways of letting a girl know that you re not only hers to be had in any club or any situation.

The Phillipinas in Angeles City are big into throwing fits if you try to session with other girls in the same clubs. Once a girl told me "You are bad, You are Butterfly". I responded, "I am good, I am Helicopter". She thought that was so funny and laughed so hard that the so called drama was gone right from the start. She actually then gave me the low down on which other girls gave the best service.

Cheers,

Cubanut

[QUOTE=Hioctane]Sweet. It looks like more pick up type spots are opening up in Medellin! If you have an address, please post it the lists section.[/QUOTE]It is neon blinking sign-lit when open: Ladies Club. Can't miss it: behind the ugly cylindrical building that is annex to the Nutibara, and next door to the Intercontinental Hotel. On-site or take-out with exit fee.

Gentleman,

I thank you all for suggestions. This forum is helpful. I will give you feedback after the trip. Good day.

[QUOTE=Dogman1]Just back about a week from the Medellin Paradise.. After dinner at Parque LLeras, we headed over to barrio Colombia. Alot of drunk chicas there. Girls were smoking weed inside the clubs. Pretty insane.[/QUOTE]Dogman1, nice first report.

To those in the know, is weed legal in Colombia? Even if not really "legal", is it tolerated? I ran into quite a few Colombianas (outside Colombia) seem to always have a small stash on them and they are very casual about it.

[quote=mr gogo]damn rain and lightning at 11pm i'm at my usual spot san diego. i got darly and karen sitting with me as i watch louisa dance. she is the chick with the tatoo on her leg. i've banged darly and karen but louisa is a keeper. as she dance's she make's eye contact, which is all the approval i need.

first let me explain my history. my grand dad owned a strip club in dc on eastern ave. i lost my virginity at 14 to a stripper who was between free bassing episoides. so i love a good performer.

anyway i slide louisa my number and we agree to meet for an afternoon delight. she is so fine i begin to understand how guy's go soft. as she come's in the crib i'm mesmerized by her beautiful. i can't fuck this up.

i take a shower and she doe's the same. all the cardio and working out is paying dues. i walk up behind her and kiss her neck but i'm worried about her fucking up the mood with that condom blow job talk. but i got a surprise for her courtesy of black sultan. one day at four rose's bar in sosua in 08 he peeped game. more on that later.

after i kiss her neck to weeken her i slide my tongue down her back. i slide her pantie's off as she gyrate's with antisapation. yeah black sultan told me about munching ass. this is reserved for the special one's. as my tongue dart's in her ass i feel her relax. i was expecting a fart in my face as she moaned. the thing about munching ass is that you have to back it up with a hard dick. i move around to her face with the moment of truth. if i munch your ass are you going to give me a bbcbj?

she gobble's it up. i escort her to the bed as my tongue is in her ear lobe. i push her on the bed and spread her leg's, pure pussy open and waiting. i wanted to go bare back but i keep condom's on the bed stand. the good in me reached for the condom. i strapped up and mounted her missionary. if i can do 60 on the cardio machine i can atleast pound her for 10. she lose's her mind tense's and everyting is soaking wet. we do doggie, reverse cowgirl and everything and i can't come. ohh i forgot to mention i took a half a cialias for lunch.

this chick is in a zone she came twice but i can't cum and call a timeout. she take's the condom off washes my dick with a wash cloth then start's sucking. i want the ass but she say's not til were married. i fake a nut, roll over and chill.

i wake up with a hard on and hump her leg. i'm ready to go bareback but at the last minute she reach's for the condom on the dresser. we finish and i don't want to ever leave her. i give her 220k and walk her out. if i wasn't a selfish mother fucker i would sell the farm and move to colombia to be with her.[/quote]nice report gogo. first, how do you fake a nut? lol.

does louisa work pretty regularly at san diego? just planning my upcoming trip.

thank you.

[QUOTE=Vitrea]Dogman1, nice first report.

To those in the know, is weed legal in Colombia? Even if not really "legal", is it tolerated? I ran into quite a few Colombianas (outside Colombia) seem to always have a small stash on them and they are very casual about it.[/QUOTE]It's nearly a year since I was in MDE and there was talk of Uribe changing the law, but at that time possession and use of a small personal amount was entirely legal (and very common with any Colombian under 50). Selling was not legal, but it was easy to find with a minimum of innuendo. Not that I do weed :) but I did some traveling with a Paisa who was much happier when that was taken care of.

[QUOTE=Cubanut]Mr Gogo,

Different Mongers DO have different styles. That was the point I was making.

I NEVER said that you or anyone else should do as I do. I also never said that you should change your way. No, not at all, if it works for you then have at it, mate.

However, not caring about the drama does not mean being crude or rude. There are several subtle and effective ways of letting a girl know that you re not only hers to be had in any club or any situation.

The Phillipinas in Angeles City are big into throwing fits if you try to session with other girls in the same clubs. Once a girl told me "You are bad, You are Butterfly". I responded, "I am good, I am Helicopter". She thought that was so funny and laughed so hard that the so called drama was gone right from the start. She actually then gave me the low down on which other girls gave the best service.

Cheers,

Cubanut[/QUOTE]You stated that someone who had a different style was"naive" because they didn't follow your SOP(standard operating proceedure). And that you would rather be shot than respect their personal style.

You talk about the drama with girl's in the club's in the Phillipine's but then say the drama that I talk about in the club's is made up.

In the past I've made several comment's when I didn't really grasp the situation. But I was man enough to accept that I'm not perfect and learn from my mistake's. You have made a post in the Medellin Mansion forum last week that was not appropriate for this forum that was unfortunate, but we live and we learn and move forward.

Let's get back to the task at hand and provide usefull post's that can assist all member's.

By far "New Life" is the best value of the el centro casas. It is well managed, clean, secure and the Turco Room is a nice amenity. At around 3 p.m. you can find a least a dozen chicas for the lineup ranging from a 6 to an 8, maybe a 8.5 depending on your perspective. I am down here until Oct 10th if looking for a wingman. I am staying in Bello and my cell is [blue][Telephone Number deleted by Admin][/blue]

Marco

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35k will get you 30 minutes at New Life. Beer is inexpensive as well.

Happy hunting.

[QUOTE=Slamcity7777]I wish you could get a pump with Esperanza Gomez! She is TOOO FINEEE![/QUOTE]Nope she just arrived to miami because i saw her at la fitness on monday... she was telling me about she was in cali for the super cola del valle some many fine gilrs

[QUOTE=Cubanut]The Phillipinas in Angeles City are big into throwing fits if you try to session with other girls in the same clubs. Once a girl told me "You are bad, You are Butterfly". I responded, "I am good, I am Helicopter". She thought that was so funny and laughed so hard that the so called drama was gone right from the start. She actually then gave me the low down on which other girls gave the best service.

Cheers,

Cubanut[/QUOTE]The jealous drama is all an act to get:

Repeat business from a high paying gringo

The shot of a fool sending money every month

Longshot: Visa outta dodge

These three things they will NOT get from a local guy who by the way knows the difference between a hoo-ker a girlfriend and a wife.

Once the girls realizes that "homey don't play that" she will drop the act - just like Cubanut mentions.

Fellas, if you think she gives a rat's ass about you and who you session with and it has nothing to do with the 3 above you are sadly mistaken. If I am wrong then you are the king and should get her service for free.

The girl left and the girl middle look like Salome and Valentina, respectively, who were in Belle Suite last month.

[QUOTE=Granjefe]35k will get you 30 minutes at New Life. Beer is inexpensive as well.

Happy hunting.[/QUOTE]

Any casas in Bello?

[QUOTE=Granjefe]By far "New Life" is the best value of the el centro casas. It is well managed, clean, secure and the Turco Room is a nice amenity. At around 3 p.m. you can find a least a dozen chicas for the lineup ranging from a 6 to an 8, maybe a 8.5 depending on your perspective. I am down here until Oct 10th if looking for a wingman. I am staying in Bello and my cell is [blue][Telephone Number deleted by Admin][/blue]

Marco

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Hi Folks,

I will be making my first trip to Columbia and Medellin in November for a month. It's all about mongering, but this is my first trip to a Spanish speaking country in a long time. My Spanish is rusty, but I hope it will come back quickly. (as cheeseball as it may sound, I may kill off some of the daytime by going to Spanish class. The more comfortable I am speaking, the better).

The crux of my post is, I intend to rent a condo for the month I am there. Ultimately, it will be nicer, and cheaper than a hotel. I have done this in Manila before. Worked great, but damn I was far from the action. Such is the hazards of renting over the interweb without knowing the area. In Medellin, I was looking at some condos in Ciudad del Rio, through a company called Paradise Realty. Can anybody comment on the area, and its proximity to night life, or the Realty company.

Any advice or suggestions is appreciated.

Simon

Guys,

For logistical reasons I can't use ATMs on this trip. I searched all the way through 2008 posts in the "peso exchange thread" but I did not find where to exchange foreign currency into Pesos in MDE for best rates and is safe. Please direct me for the first day or two and then I can find my own way around town. Gracias

[QUOTE=Matt Psyche]The girl left and the girl middle look like Salome and Valentina, respectively, who were in Belle Suite last month.[/QUOTE]Valentina lol. Is it just my imagination, or is this the nom de guerre assigned to the newest / youngest girl to be found at any given casa?

I got here on Sunday afternoom with 4 newbes. It has rained on and off for the three days. This should be no surprise to me as my last two trips this year it rained almost every day also.

Sunday and Monday night in Mayorista were not as I hoped it would be. I was able to get some good stuff for myself, but my newbe flock were not so lucky. Of course I did see Porn Star and a few others that I recommeded, but they thought they could do better I guess. I did not mind them not following my picks but then don't complain about the selection. Of course it is there money so beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Went to Atenas casa today and they had only 5 girls working so that was also a problem since only 3 were good. I had to pass so my flock could wet their beaks.

Now I just got word that a huge international moter cycle group is staying in Mayorista. Real great news as most likely they will be having some problems and give Gringos more of a bad name then we already have. Don't get me wrong I have had many cycles in my life but I know how some of these guys get with a few brews into them.

With my full beard maybe I will fit in with them, they won't try to take any girls away from me.

I will try to check out Club Inter, or whatever it is called soon.

More reports to follow unless I have to kill one of my newbes. LOL

[QUOTE=LuckyEddie]The jealous drama is all an act to get:

Repeat business from a high paying gringo

The shot of a fool sending money every month

Longshot: Visa outta dodge

These three things they will NOT get from a local guy who by the way knows the difference between a hoo-ker a girlfriend and a wife.

Once the girls realizes that "homey don't play that" she will drop the act - just like Cubanut mentions.

Fellas, if you think she gives a rat's ass about you and who you session with and it has nothing to do with the 3 above you are sadly mistaken. If I am wrong then you are the king and should get her service for free.[/QUOTE]I think the only way I survive all the drama from the many different girls I pick is I always,and I mean always keep reminding myself that it is all a game and I am playing in their ballpark. Right now I am seeing a real sweet Pro here in MDE and I could not ask for better service.I even think she really likes me a little. All that being said I am on my guard. Sure it kind of spoils things a little to not go with the illusion, but better that then end up with a broken heart and wallet.

[QUOTE=Vitrea]Dogman1, nice first report.

To those in the know, is weed legal in Colombia? Even if not really "legal", is it tolerated? I ran into quite a few Colombianas (outside Colombia) seem to always have a small stash on them and they are very casual about it.[/QUOTE]I don't know if it is legal, but it sure is everywhere. I went in May and again in August. On both occasions it was prevalent, cheap as hell and blew ur mind. Krypa goes for about $3 for a over stuffed joint or blunt pre rolled. On both ocassions I went to massage parlors and was smoked out by girls.

Hello fellow mongers,

I just wanted to ask how do LDV and the Pley clubs in Cartagena compare to the Fase Dos and Loutron in Medellin. Lately , I have noticed that the joints in Medellin have experienced quite a drop off in talent. So I was wondering about the talent in Cartagena.

I would also like to comment that believe it or not there are some *****s that once you fuck them that you will come back for more. So yes, there can be some drama among *****s that think you are dying to fuck them a second time.

Vitrea,

You can easily exchange currency in Oviedo Mall. I think they have two or more casas that change money.

Regards,

John.

[QUOTE=Vitrea]Guys,

For logistical reasons I can't use ATMs on this trip. I searched all the way through 2008 posts in the "peso exchange thread" but I did not find where to exchange foreign currency into Pesos in MDE for best rates and is safe. Please direct me for the first day or two and then I can find my own way around town. Gracias[/QUOTE]

And if you think a real "girlfriend" or "wife" is anything more then a high paid ***** you are wrong my friend. Any smart women looking for a man is after someone able to take care of her. I have seen it over and over, and after awhile they usually meet someone better off and leave you. Women are *****s, make no mistake about it. I would rather pay a *****, by the way, don't take this the wrong way, I love *****s, Let me get back on track, I would rather pay a ***** her hourly rate or overnight, and be happy, then go thru all the drama with what you call a real girlfriend or wife. They drag you thru courts, get restraining orders agaist you, and take you for every last penny they can, when is the last time a real ***** did this to someone, Uh never! Pay them and be happy my friend. Yes they do love you as much as a real girlfriend or wife as you put it. Just show them the money and the love comes in buckets.

[QUOTE=LuckyEddie]The jealous drama is all an act to get:

Repeat business from a high paying gringo

The shot of a fool sending money every month

Longshot: Visa outta dodge

These three things they will NOT get from a local guy who by the way knows the difference between a hoo-ker a girlfriend and a wife.

Once the girls realizes that "homey don't play that" she will drop the act - just like Cubanut mentions.

Fellas, if you think she gives a rat's ass about you and who you session with and it has nothing to do with the 3 above you are sadly mistaken. If I am wrong then you are the king and should get her service for free.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Pepe Tolete]I don't know if it is legal, but it sure is everywhere. I went in May and again in August. On both occasions it was prevalent, cheap as hell and blew ur mind. Krypa goes for about $3 for a over stuffed joint or blunt pre rolled. On both ocassions I went to massage parlors and was smoked out by girls.[/QUOTE]Thank you. I am sorry I don't know what "Krypa" is . I even tried to Google it.

[QUOTE=Pepe Tolete]I don't know if it is legal, but it sure is everywhere. I went in May and again in August. On both occasions it was prevalent, cheap as hell and blew ur mind. Krypa goes for about $3 for a over stuffed joint or blunt pre rolled. On both ocassions I went to massage parlors and was smoked out by girls.[/QUOTE]I've seen it for $1 pre rolled! It doesn't quite smell as good as the shit in the States though, lol.

Vic, dont sweat it, as long as you have money she does like you, probably more then a little, and if your treating her nicely, I am positive she likes you, just like any other girlfriend would, just remember if the money ran out so would she or any other girlfriend. I always keep in mind that the majority of people are just trying to get thru life and getting thru life nicely takes money.

[QUOTE=Vics Picks]I think the only way I survive all the drama from the many different girls I pick is I always,and I mean always keep reminding myself that it is all a game and I am playing in their ballpark. Right now I am seeing a real sweet Pro here in MDE and I could not ask for better service.I even think she really likes me a little. All that being said I am on my guard. Sure it kind of spoils things a little to not go with the illusion, but better that then end up with a broken heart and wallet.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vitrea]Thank you. I am sorry I don't know what "Krypa" is . I even tried to Google it.[/QUOTE]Search for "cripa." It's Colombian weed.

Still raining but the good news is the last few nights have been good on the Mayorista strip. My newbe crew is hooking up with some cute girls and I have been sticking with my old concacts so everyone is happy. I checked out Club Inter and the beers were 7 K and mostly Chicas with fat ass's were working. I counted only 2 good ones and my Wing took one. 70K was the cost for 30 min. Place was kind of run down. I will not return. We went to Centro next and Las Americas was good. Two of my crew hooked up with some Spinners who I rated as 9's. Good performance I was told and 50K was the price.

Next day we all went to New Life. At 4 PM they had about 15 girls working with at least half of them were very good looking women. 35K for 30 minutes and I was a little sore so I just waited for my crew to get done when a girl appeared from another client. She was a stone Stunner, a Total 10.

My crew was at that point now ready to leave so I relutantly left without taking this fine woman. I will be back for her.

We are at the half way point of this 10 day outing and already my newbes are telling me when they get home they will not even look at another American woman. I nod my head and smile thinking yes they in thier minds are already plannig the next trip, but after a week home they will again step into the deep Gringa waters.

[QUOTE=TonySoprano]Hello fellow mongers,

I just wanted to ask how do LDV and the Pley clubs in Cartagena compare to the Fase Dos and Loutron in Medellin. Lately , I have noticed that the joints in Medellin have experienced quite a drop off in talent. So I was wondering about the talent in Cartagena.

I would also like to comment that believe it or not there are some *****s that once you fuck them that you will come back for more. So yes, there can be some drama among *****s that think you are dying to fuck them a second time.[/QUOTE]All of the places you mentioned all have Stunners. For my money forget those four and just wait for 3AM and go to electra in CTG for a place loaded with fine woman who at that point of the night are hungry and will give you a good deal if you know how to operate.

[QUOTE=Vitrea]Thank you. I am sorry I don't know what "Krypa" is . I even tried to Google it.[/QUOTE]I am told it is the Primo stuff. One or two hits and you are gone.

Lets get back to pussy por favor.

Glad to see this topic come up again. I have read here that the exchange rate at the casas de cambio in Medellin is terrible: That you lose as much as 15%. Is that so, or is the rate more or less what one sees quoted on the internet?

[QUOTE=John]Vitrea,

You can easily exchange currency in Oviedo Mall. I think they have two or more casas that change money.

Regards,

John.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Smbkrn]Glad to see this topic come up again. I have read here that the exchange rate at the casas de cambio in Medellin is terrible: That you lose as much as 15%. Is that so, or is the rate more or less what one sees quoted on the internet?[/QUOTE]You are charged a fee just like Travelex and is high 5-8 percent - use ATM and you get real rate.

[QUOTE=Smbkrn]Glad to see this topic come up again. I have read here that the exchange rate at the casas de cambio in Medellin is terrible: That you lose as much as 15%. Is that so, or is the rate more or less what one sees quoted on the internet?[/QUOTE]I was in both Medellin and CTG between 19 and 29 August. Rates the same. In Medellin, cambios where passport not required to change were giving 10 centavos less. In Centro, in the tall, gigantic white building with the sloping roof is Western Union and cambios. Ground level in building next door are better cambios. Sorry about vague directions, can get street address if anyone interested. (have also changed at the casino there too, in a pinch)

[QUOTE=Hioctane]Search for "cripa." It's Colombian weed.[/QUOTE]Cripa or krypa is the chronic. Like here we have regs and krippie (krytonite) they call there hi end sweet swelling stuff cripa. Spend th extra 2 bucks brother it's worth it.

[QUOTE=Smbkrn]Glad to see this topic come up again. I have read here that the exchange rate at the casas de cambio in Medellin is terrible: That you lose as much as 15%. Is that so, or is the rate more or less what one sees quoted on the internet?[/QUOTE]Two weeks ago it was 1785 per dollar at the malls. I exchange at oviedo or at the tesoro malls. Oviedo will get you an extra 5 to 10 pesos more thanks to the competition between various casas but i just use whichever is nearest to home base.

I would like to know around midnight after taking a shower etc are there any casas avail for me or shall I have to go to a bar/disco wed eve will it be quiet. Non pro would be a nice little first project for MDE but not fussed. For me a good start would be a nice late casa any ideas.

Did you see a very tall girl at Las Americanas? Last time I was passing by Americanas, I saw a tall girl at the door. But my friends wanted to go to another club, so I could not talk to her. I want to know her name.

[QUOTE=Vics Picks]We went to Centro next and Las Americas was good. Two of my crew hooked up with some Spinners who I rated as 9's. Good performance I was told and 50K was the price.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vics Picks]I am told it is the Primo stuff. One or two hits and you are gone.

Lets get back to pussy por favor.[/QUOTE]It is always about the pussy my friend. :-) We are talking about pussy experience enhancers. But please pardon the digression.

[QUOTE=Smbkrn]Glad to see this topic come up again. I have read here that the exchange rate at the casas de cambio in Medellin is terrible: That you lose as much as 15%. Is that so, or is the rate more or less what one sees quoted on the internet?[/QUOTE]Really? That is odd.

One would think that there would be enough demand in Colombia for foreign currency that exchange agencies would be making money both ways, hence a decent exchange rate for people coming into the country with foreign currency.

I use Citi Bank Gold checking account.

I get almost the bank to bank interchange rate at a cajero. Also City will give you a credit if you use another banks Cajero. The casas de cambio are ripoffs and the airport in Bogota is even worse. you lose between 15 and 20 percent.

Chase has n charge to use their cajero. They are all over Colombia. If you use a credit card they will charge you a foreign exchange fee.

wat really frosts my cake is, in St Martin I pay in dollars and they still charge me an exchange rate fee.

Ripoff number 2

Mel

[QUOTE=Matt Psyche]Did you see a very tall girl at Las Americanas? Last time I was passing by Americanas, I saw a tall girl at the door. But my friends wanted to go to another club, so I could not talk to her. I want to know her name.[/QUOTE]she's been there like non-stop for a year-and-a-half. In the beginning, she'd go to your apto at closing for over-nighters, but now looks like she's short-timing it next door to her workplace. Name? ASK her!

[QUOTE=Mel365]I use Citi Bank Gold checking account.

I get almost the bank to bank interchange rate at a cajero. Also City will give you a credit if you use another banks Cajero. The casas de cambio are ripoffs and the airport in Bogota is even worse. you lose between 15 and 20 percent.

Chase has n charge to use their cajero. They are all over Colombia. If you use a credit card they will charge you a foreign exchange fee.

wat really frosts my cake is, in St Martin I pay in dollars and they still charge me an exchange rate fee.

Ripoff number 2

Mel[/QUOTE]Keep in mind MOST banks will refund fees and have lower exchange fees if you have a "gold" or "platinum" account with them. Sadly, the ones that can afford to pay the extra fees are the ones that get all the perks.

[QUOTE=Escort King]You are charged a fee just like Travelex and is high 5-8 percent - use ATM and you get real rate.[/QUOTE]I did a study in Medellin I took 400, 000 pesos out of the same atm at the same time. I used 6 different atm cards from 6 different banks. The best were in this order TDBANK(best), UPSIDE card([url]www.Upsidecard.com[/url], prepaid debit card that I find to be the cheapest, and I can load from chase for free in 3 days time), Capital one, Citibank, Bank of america, and finally chase. There were no amazing differences in amounts between first and sixth but maybe like 3 dollars difference but still it's your 3 dollars. Times that over a entire week of pulling money out and you got dinner.

BB

[QUOTE=Bbrocs]I did a study in Medellin I took 400, 000 pesos out of the same atm at the same time. I used 6 different atm cards from 6 different banks. The best were in this order TDBANK(best), UPSIDE card([url]www.Upsidecard.com[/url], prepaid debit card that I find to be the cheapest, and I can load from chase for free in 3 days time), Capital one, Citibank, Bank of america, and finally chase. There were no amazing differences in amounts between first and sixth but maybe like 3 dollars difference but still it's your 3 dollars. Times that over a entire week of pulling money out and you got dinner.

BB[/QUOTE]Bbrocs,

Of all the bank cards you mention, only Citibank has it's own ATM's in Medellin. So aside from the exchange rate, I would think that not having to pay an ATM fee counts for something as well if using let's say a Citbank card at a Citbank ATM as oppsed to using it at a Banco Colombia.

Cheers,

Cubanut

PS. I think the Future of Mongering at least will be making it easier to pay the girls for services rendered.

[QUOTE=Mel365]Chase has n charge to use their cajero. They are all over Colombia.

Mel[/QUOTE]Can you name one in the centro?

I had no idea my bank was branching out into South America.

I've never seen one anywhere outside of the USA.

[QUOTE=Cubanut]Bbrocs,

Of all the bank cards you mention, only Citibank has it's own ATM's in Medellin. So aside from the exchange rate, I would think that not having to pay an ATM fee counts for something as well if using let's say a Citbank card at a Citbank ATM as oppsed to using it at a Banco Colombia.

Cheers,

Cubanut

PS. I think the Future of Mongering at least will be making it easier to pay the girls for services rendered.[/QUOTE]BTW, even if you have a Citibank account there are still ATM fees in Colombia. There are exceptions.

From the best info I found about international ATM fees:

[url]http://www.flyerguide.com/wiki/index.php/Credit/Debit/ATM_Cards_and_Foreign_Exchange[/url]

3% + $1.50 per transaction for all accounts except for Citigold, Private Bank, International Personal Banking and Global Executive Banking customers which pay 0%;

[QUOTE=Bbrocs]I did a study in Medellin I took 400, 000 pesos out of the same atm at the same time. I used 6 different atm cards from 6 different banks. The best were in this order TDBANK(best), UPSIDE card([url]www.Upsidecard.com[/url], prepaid debit card that I find to be the cheapest, and I can load from chase for free in 3 days time), Capital one, Citibank, Bank of america, and finally chase. There were no amazing differences in amounts between first and sixth but maybe like 3 dollars difference but still it's your 3 dollars. Times that over a entire week of pulling money out and you got dinner.

BB[/QUOTE]Good info, thanks.

I use the Capital One. You get the bank to bank exchange rate with no transaction fee.

Only hassle was first time using it finding which machines were linked, to successfully complete the transaction. Once that was established, absolutely no problems. Aside from a low max withdrawal (COP400,000), but never had a problem making multiple withdrawals.

[QUOTE=Cubanut]Bbrocs,

Of all the bank cards you mention, only Citibank has it's own ATM's in Medellin. So aside from the exchange rate, I would think that not having to pay an ATM fee counts for something as well if using let's say a Citbank card at a Citbank ATM as oppsed to using it at a Banco Colombia.

Cheers,

Cubanut

PS. I think the Future of Mongering at least will be making it easier to pay the girls for services rendered.[/QUOTE]That's thinking out of the box.

On second thought, maybe not!

Too many ways to go on this one.

I'll quit now.

All the best, Schwmm

[QUOTE=Schwmmr]Good info, thanks.

I use the Capital One. You get the bank to bank exchange rate with no transaction fee.

Only hassle was first time using it finding which machines were linked, to successfully complete the transaction. Once that was established, absolutely no problems. Aside from a low max withdrawal (COP400,000), but never had a problem making multiple withdrawals.[/QUOTE]Capital one charges 2.00 for using machines outside of network, citibank even at citibank ATM charges 3% unless as said before your citigold or other elite service. Best bang for the buck is TD bank, unless your citigold at a citi branch, and my location for that is San Diego mall, I miss the citibank ATM at blockbuster. Also with some of my cards my bank has no relation with bank if Colombia and will not work. Two examples of that are chase and bank if America.

[QUOTE=Schwmmr]Good info, thanks.

I use the Capital One. You get the bank to bank exchange rate with no transaction fee.

Only hassle was first time using it finding which machines were linked, to successfully complete the transaction. Once that was established, absolutely no problems. Aside from a low max withdrawal (COP400,000), but never had a problem making multiple withdrawals.[/QUOTE]I used Capital One too.. but they also charge $1.50 per transaction. That adds up.. Right now I'm using Charles Schwab. No exchange fee AND they refund ALL ATM fees (domestic and international). Pretty sweet actually, I withdraw from a stripclub ATM at home and they refunded their insane $5 fee.

BBVA Compass Bank out of Florida allows you to make ATM withdrawals from anywhere in the World without ATM Charges.

Frank Casio!

[QUOTE=Cubanut]Bbrocs,

Of all the bank cards you mention, only Citibank has it's own ATM's in Medellin. So aside from the exchange rate, I would think that not having to pay an ATM fee counts for something as well if using let's say a Citbank card at a Citbank ATM as oppsed to using it at a Banco Colombia.

Cheers,

Cubanut

PS. I think the Future of Mongering at least will be making it easier to pay the girls for services rendered.[/QUOTE]

Had my first Mayorista experience last night, and I loved it. Ran into a group of fellow gringos and watched the scene go by. I didn't partake but there are, as many people here have said, some gems to be had amongst the tubbies.

We took the metro/cable up to Santo Domingo today - Highly recommended, it's really a worthwhile trip.

On the way back we went to casa Energy. My last trip here there were only two girls working, but they seem to have gone through a change. There was a lineup of about 8 girls, maybe two 7's and the rest 8's and 9's. I could have done any one of them. I chose Mariana, a dark little spinner, and she did not disappoint. No GFE and covered bj, which unfortunately I'm finding to be the norm here, but great personality and great performance of the basics. She even went about 10 minutes over the hour time-limit. Highly recommended.

More later.

[QUOTE=Frank Casio]BBVA Compass Bank out of Florida allows you to make ATM withdrawals from anywhere in the World without ATM Charges.

Frank Casio![/QUOTE]Yes, I was hoping for the same thing.

My BBVA Compass ATM cards did not work at the BBVA ATMs in Poblado.

[QUOTE=Doc Bill]Had my first Mayorista experience last night, and I loved it. Ran into a group of fellow gringos and watched the scene go by. I didn't partake but there are, as many people here have said, some gems to be had amongst the tubbies.

We took the metro/cable up to Santo Domingo today - Highly recommended, it's really a worthwhile trip.

On the way back we went to casa Energy. My last trip here there were only two girls working, but they seem to have gone through a change. There was a lineup of about 8 girls, maybe two 7's and the rest 8's and 9's. I could have done any one of them. I chose Mariana, a dark little spinner, and she did not disappoint. No GFE and covered bj, which unfortunately I'm finding to be the norm here, but great personality and great performance of the basics. She even went about 10 minutes over the hour time-limit. Highly recommended.

More later.[/QUOTE]It was good to see you again last night. A long time since Santa Marta.

That chica you guys were sitting with I ended up spending some time with her after you guys left. I bought her some drinks and danced with her a little, but when at the table as I put my hand on her leg she pushed it away and told me she was no Puta. This got my attention so I thought I would spend a little time with her to see what she was about. Turns out after a while she brings out a jewlery display. I bought a 10K charm and then after a bit she starts to turn me on to her fat friend who was for sure a WG. As I then made my exit it hit me how hard these people have it. Here is a girl who spent hours working just to make a 10K sale.

As far as the coveted BBBJ in Mayorista in 95% of the time a tip must be offered to get the proper results. I think these girls like to gamble a bit as I offer no amount, just a promise. At first I would tip them 20K, but I soon learned that 10K was enough to made them smile.

that girl, vic, was ****. that's why she wouldn't (or couldn't, i should say) go into one of those hotels. she kept asking me for beer (guess she had enough money for food) and trying to get me to go to her house clear across town. i sensed trouble and left her in the dust. my personal rule is that if she doesn't look 20 i ask for i.d. but even that can be faked. ultimately i rely on my intuition.

that girl, vic, was ****. that's why she wouldn't (or couldn't, i should say) go into one of those hotels. she kept asking me for beer (guess she had enough money for food) and trying to get me to go to her house clear across town. i sensed trouble and left her in the dust. my personal rule is that if she doesn't look 20 i ask for i.d. but even that can be faked. ultimately i rely on my intuition.

by the way, vic, it was great to see you again too!

I have never been to the Medellin area, but cb just doesnt cut it for me, no matter how nice the girl is. That just doesnt do a thing for me, I have never had that happen in Cartagena and I hope I never do.

[QUOTE=Vics Picks]It was good to see you again last night. A long time since Santa Marta.

That chica you guys were sitting with I ended up spending some time with her after you guys left. I bought her some drinks and danced with her a little, but when at the table as I put my hand on her leg she pushed it away and told me she was no Puta. This got my attention so I thought I would spend a little time with her to see what she was about. Turns out after a while she brings out a jewlery display. I bought a 10K charm and then after a bit she starts to turn me on to her fat friend who was for sure a WG. As I then made my exit it hit me how hard these people have it. Here is a girl who spent hours working just to make a 10K sale.

As far as the coveted BBBJ in Mayorista in 95% of the time a tip must be offered to get the proper results. I think these girls like to gamble a bit as I offer no amount, just a promise. At first I would tip them 20K, but I soon learned that 10K was enough to made them smile.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vics Picks]It was good to see you again last night. A long time since Santa Marta.

That chica you guys were sitting with I ended up spending some time with her after you guys left. I bought her some drinks and danced with her a little, but when at the table as I put my hand on her leg she pushed it away and told me she was no Puta. This got my attention so I thought I would spend a little time with her to see what she was about. Turns out after a while she brings out a jewlery display. I bought a 10K charm and then after a bit she starts to turn me on to her fat friend who was for sure a WG. As I then made my exit it hit me how hard these people have it. Here is a girl who spent hours working just to make a 10K sale.

As far as the coveted BBBJ in Mayorista in 95% of the time a tip must be offered to get the proper results. I think these girls like to gamble a bit as I offer no amount, just a promise. At first I would tip them 20K, but I soon learned that 10K was enough to made them smile.[/QUOTE]Vic, you just made her day! The average paisa makes about 20k a day... and that's working full time 10-12 hours a day!

Please pardon or skip over the non-mongering part of this report: Went to the Museo de Antioquia today and saw some great Botero and other stuff. I also like the El Centro vibe during the day. Had a great Middle-East style dinner somewhere in El Poblado, thanks to another Forum member's hospitality. I actually had gotten tired of baby beef. Early in the evening we went to a salsa club in el centro - Very hot Cuban music and Colombian women - My favorite combination.

We hit Fase 2 afterward. It could have been better but it was totally my fault - I broke every rule that Jackson and others have taught me: Check out the attitude first, check out the level of affection (feigned or not), check touching sensitivity, check ability to have a conversation, check rush status, etc. I ignored it all because I couldn't resist the tight jeans, hot body and beautiful face. It was also the last stop of the day and I didn't want to end it watching porn in my room.

Her name is "Veronica," 22. I enjoyed the visuals and the technics of her performance was fine. Just a rushed attitude and performance, no conversation, and asking me for tips afterward (Thank God I said no to that!).

But like I said it was my own fault. I do like the place, there are some extremely hot women there, some actually nice, and a good atmosphere. I would go back, but with a better brain.

Cost: Assorted tipping: 5000COP, drinks: 38,000COP, and the girl 150,000COP - Total damage: 193,000COP. Not for the faint of budget.

[QUOTE=Hioctane]Vic, you just made her day! The average paisa makes about 20k a day... and that's working full time 10-12 hours a day![/QUOTE]And with that 20k they need to pay Almuerzo, Buseta and mintuos, Now add that up! Fucked-up life.

[QUOTE=Doc Bill]Please pardon or skip over the non-mongering part of this report: Went to the Museo de Antioquia today and saw some great Botero and other stuff. I also like the El Centro vibe during the day. Had a great Middle-East style dinner somewhere in El Poblado, thanks to another Forum member's hospitality. I actually had gotten tired of baby beef. Early in the evening we went to a salsa club in el centro - Very hot Cuban music and Colombian women - My favorite combination.

We hit Fase 2 afterward. It could have been better but it was totally my fault - I broke every rule that Jackson and others have taught me: Check out the attitude first, check out the level of affection (feigned or not), check touching sensitivity, check ability to have a conversation, check rush status, etc. I ignored it all because I couldn't resist the tight jeans, hot body and beautiful face. It was also the last stop of the day and I didn't want to end it watching porn in my room.

Her name is "Veronica," 22. I enjoyed the visuals and the technics of her performance was fine. Just a rushed attitude and performance, no conversation, and asking me for tips afterward (Thank God I said no to that!).

But like I said it was my own fault. I do like the place, there are some extremely hot women there, some actually nice, and a good atmosphere. I would go back, but with a better brain.

Cost: Assorted tipping: 5000COP, drinks: 38,000COP, and the girl 150,000COP - Total damage: 193,000COP. Not for the faint of budget.[/QUOTE]This Veronica, 22? Little spinner, Currey Brownish/Dirty Blond Hair, HUGE Booty, SUPER Pretty face? Likes to smoke la cripa?

If this sounds right I had her and yep. No Dice!

[QUOTE=Doc Bill].......I also like the El Centro vibe during the day. Had a great Middle-East style dinner somewhere in El Poblado, thanks to another Forum member's hospitality. .[/QUOTE]Doc, please post the name of the restaurant if you can remember. Planning for my trip in 2 weeks.

Thank you

This 10 day trip has come to an end. Not one of my better outings due to all the Newbes I was helping out. I did get some satisfaction out of everyone having a good time and two fellows seem to have fell in love.

I was able to do at lest one and sometimes two Chicas a day. I mixed new ones in with my proven providers.

Nothing really new to report. I did see a few old friends from past trips and also met a few new guys in Mayorista. A lot of Gringo presence on the strip.

One thing I must mention although it is not breaking news. In Colombia the more you see a pro who you really like and can comunicate with the better each session will become. One of the Pro's I have been seeing each trip to MDE finally went all the way with me. It was my last night and when It came time for the cover she made it very clear it was not for this time. Also IMHO if you think the pro you have really likes you it will be proven in the kisses she gives you.

I guess I will be good for 7 days or so till I get horny again.

There is much down time on anyone's trip to Medellín. Lot's of guy are recommending la 70, but short of that, I am working on identifying places in El Pobalado and Parque Lleras. I don't care how f. Lazy you are, if you don't make it to Aguacates, right next to the actual Parque Lleras, near the Dann Carlton but on the other side of the park, you are missing out big time. And right next to the Aguacate, is the bar Cheers. I love this place! Dollar and a half beers, American blues music, the best, continuous. In addition, check out restaurants like Mondongos on Calle 10, two little breakfast places, and the places across the street, on Calle 9, more restaurants on 10a.

Slamcity. Yes, that's her.

Vitrea. I am really sorry. I should have taken a card. Its just up a hill from Parque Lleiras, I believe, and you could probably ask anybody. I'm sure there are not a lot of (probably not even one other) mid. Eastern restaurants. We were taken there by a fellow Forum member so if he's reading this maybe he can give out the address. Wish I could be more helpful.

Now it's off to Rio, ENOUGH of this BBBJ bullshit!

[QUOTE=Hioctane]I used Capital One too.. but they also charge $1.50 per transaction. That adds up.. [/QUOTE]Adds up to what? $10?

You spend $700 on a flight, and you cry over $10?

[QUOTE=Doc Bill] I'm sure there are not a lot of (probably not even one other) mid. Eastern restaurants. We were taken there by a fellow Forum member so if he's reading this maybe he can give out the address. Wish I could be more helpful.
[/QUOTE]There is one also on the premises of the Carulla supermarket at Las Palmas. It is located in the part where other restaurants like Cuzco are. (This Carulla is, roughly, located between Palmitas and the Intercontinental hotel)

[QUOTE=Doc Bill]Slamcity. Yes, that's her.

Vitrea. I am really sorry. I should have taken a card. Its just up a hill from Parque Lleiras, I believe, and you could probably ask anybody. I'm sure there are not a lot of (probably not even one other) mid. Eastern restaurants. We were taken there by a fellow Forum member so if he's reading this maybe he can give out the address. Wish I could be more helpful.

Now it's off to Rio, ENOUGH of this BBBJ bullshit![/QUOTE]Doc, another friendly forum member sent me the following PM. The directions were very precise so I thought others could benefit from the info. God, I love ISG.

"I think the place you are looking for is called "Byblos". The address is avenida Palmas (carrera 35) at the intersection with calle 18. It's the only place in Medellin I know of where they have lamb on the menu. I recommend the food. By the way, the taxi driver may have trouble finding it. It's in a Centro Comercial, with several other restaurants on top of a Carulla supermercado. Hope this helps. (They used to have another outlet in Oviedo, but it closed a month or so ago for lack of business)."

[quote=chesrep001]there is much down time on anyone's trip to medellín. lot's of guy are recommending la 70, but short of that, i am working on identifying places in el pobalado and parque lleras. i don't care how f. lazy you are, if you don't make it to aguacates, right next to the actual parque lleras, near the dann carlton but on the other side of the park, you are missing out big time. and right next to the aguacate, is the bar cheers. i love this place! dollar and a half beers, american blues music, the best, continuous. in addition, check out restaurants like mondongos on calle 10, two little breakfast places, and the places across the street, on calle 9, more restaurants on 10a.[/quote]i don't know about you.. i don't get enough time to sleep! between casas and hanging out with amigas and favoritas during the day and drinking and partying at night, i barely get 5 hours of sleep a night.

[QUOTE=Kid Brooklyn]Adds up to what? $10?

You spend $700 on a flight, and you cry over $10?[/QUOTE]If you can save the money, why not save it instead of throwing it away? My flight is $300. But hey, if you feel like you must spend double on a specific airline, that's your choice.

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver]And with that 20k they need to pay Almuerzo, Buseta and mintuos, Now add that up! Fucked-up life.[/QUOTE]Most don't buy minutes.. It's free incoming. That's why they call you and then immediately hang up expecting you to call back.

[QUOTE=Doc Bill]Had a great Middle-East style dinner somewhere in El Poblado, thanks to another Forum member's hospitality. I actually had gotten tired of baby beef.[/QUOTE]In Parque Lleras there is a Middle Eastern Restaurant called Lebanese. Or at least The sign on the outside says that. Great food. Had the multi-dish meal which brought 14 different mini versions of popular dishes. It's about half block down from the middle of the Parque Lleras center park but I forget which street. It might be down from Restaurant Lomo's (which has excellent steaks as well).

Never been to this one, but in Laureles there is Fenicia which also features Middle Eastern cuisine, Cra. 73 #2-41 (Ave Jardin).

BTW- Aside from Middle Eastern food, someone mentioned eating at Mondongos on Calle 10 (on the edge of Parque Lleras). My suggestion is going there for lunch Monday through Friday to see some beautiful executive type women and office secretaries having lunch around noon. Lots of high heels and nylons & skirts and formed pant outfits as opposed to just jeans. Oh and the food is pretty decent and at a good price.

Another well kept non-secret is Dodger Dogs right next to La Triada. Dodger Dog has excellent Bar b Que Pork Ribs!

BTW- La Triada is good for lunch or dinner during the week but absolutely Shitty in my opinion on a Friday or Saturday night for dinner. Why? Horrible service when busy. More than once had to wait 15 to 20 minutes for a fresh beer and they practically sneer at bringing prepagos. I have even seen them turn away guys with girls feigning that the tables are reserved to keep out the prepago/monger scene on Friday and Saturday nights.

Also for great snacking or even a meal during the afternoon try some excellent Empanadas on Ave 10 just 1/2 block up from Ave Poblado (half block down from Mondongos). Mmm Mmm good eating! Take some to go, the girls love them to snack on and especially good late night if you have a microwave handy. Excellent picante sauce given to you to go. Standing room only at the little shop front.

Now going down Calle 10 and crossing Ave Poblado is Parque Poblado where the cabbies hang out. Go right on the 1st street parallel to Ave Poblado about 1 & 1/2 blocks (1/2 block past Calle 9) and you will see on your left a Mexican/Italian combo restaurant (it's a one way street). EXCELLENT food!

Well enough writing, think I'll go and grab a bite somewhere.

Stay Hungry My Friends!

Cubanut

[QUOTE=Cubanut]In Parque Lleras there is a Middle Eastern Restaurant called Lebanese. Or at least The sign on the outside says that. Great food. Had the multi-dish meal which brought 14 different mini versions of popular dishes. It's about half block down from the middle of the Parque Lleras center park but I forget which street. It might be down from Restaurant Lomo's (which has excellent steaks as well).

Never been to this one, but in Laureles there is Fenicia which also features Middle Eastern cuisine, Cra. 73 #2-41 (Ave Jardin).

BTW- Aside from Middle Eastern food, someone mentioned eating at Mondongos on Calle 10 (on the edge of Parque Lleras). My suggestion is going there for lunch Monday through Friday to see some beautiful executive type women and office secretaries having lunch around noon. Lots of high heels and nylons & skirts and formed pant outfits as opposed to just jeans. Oh and the food is pretty decent and at a good price.

Another well kept non-secret is Dodger Dogs right next to La Triada. Dodger Dog has excellent Bar b Que Pork Ribs!

BTW- La Triada is good for lunch or dinner during the week but absolutely Shitty in my opinion on a Friday or Saturday night for dinner. Why? Horrible service when busy. More than once had to wait 15 to 20 minutes for a fresh beer and they practically sneer at bringing prepagos. I have even seen them turn away guys with girls feigning that the tables are reserved to keep out the prepago/monger scene on Friday and Saturday nights.

Also for great snacking or even a meal during the afternoon try some excellent Empanadas on Ave 10 just 1/2 block up from Ave Poblado (half block down from Mondongos). Mmm Mmm good eating! Take some to go, the girls love them to snack on and especially good late night if you have a microwave handy. Excellent picante sauce given to you to go. Standing room only at the little shop front.

Now going down Calle 10 and crossing Ave Poblado is Parque Poblado where the cabbies hang out. Go right on the 1st street parallel to Ave Poblado about 1 & 1/2 blocks (1/2 block past Calle 9) and you will see on your left a Mexican/Italian combo restaurant (it's a one way street). EXCELLENT food!

Well enough writing, think I'll go and grab a bite somewhere.

Stay Hungry My Friends!

Cubanut[/QUOTE]Thank you for this highly informative post (as usual). It is very timely for me. Few days ago I asked for a empanada recommendation and no one responded. I was starting to give up.

Ok, guys, I was able to get the info on that Mid-Eastern place I ate at:

El Tabun
Carrera 33 No. 7-99
El Poblado
phone: 311-8209

Highly recommended!

[QUOTE=Poturu]I'd like to know your thought: which is less expensive between Medellin and Lima for fucking, enjoying oneself and living for 2 weeks?. But particularly expenses for fucking.[/QUOTE]Except for the Trocadaro in Lima, and Of course it is the lowest of the low with even some grand mothers working at the Troc so I hate to even mention the place, but I do try to give accurite info. The best value for sexo is MDE

Beautiful girls in the MDE Casas for as low as 30K for 30 minutes. The mid range strip clubs in MDE offer great value compared to the Lima clubs.

Also the street walkers in Mira Flores (the best section in Lima) are terrible compared to MDE SW's. In Lima for almost every locale you need a cab while a guy who knows how to operate in MDE needs only the Metro for all the downtown Casas.

As far as expense other than sex I would rate Lima a little cheaper, but for me the added airfare and travel time all make MDE my number spot in Latin American. Of course I still have not been to Brazil yet.

[QUOTE=Poturu]I'd like to know your thought: which is less expensive between Medellin and Lima for fucking, enjoying oneself and living for 2 weeks?. But particularly expenses for fucking.[/QUOTE]For overall general expenses (food, taxis, hotel/apartment) Lima may still be a little cheaper than Medellin, but not that much. Your question may not have a definite answer. How many girls/pops do you need in a day? And what type/quality of girls? I do think MDE is a much better monger destination than LIM if one of the goals is frequent GFE experiences, and not simply spending as little as possible. I haven't found any source in Lima that has offered anything like the duo I used on my last trip of romancelatina girls and mansion girls for combination of reasonable (not budget) value, attractiveness of girls, and consistent GFE performance. I'm not an expert on budget options but Lima does have them in abundance.

Some Lima guys have had assistance from David_33 and are happy with his girls and I hoped for an introduction or two on my last trip there- but I was unable to get his help so still can't speak to that. GFE is reported but I do know his chicas are over 200 soles so not budget either.

Civilian girls is something else if it is your thing, Lima is a super destination for that. My dates with regular girls are almost always a nice time and can be done very cheaply, but for me only a small percentage of the girls do I end up fucking, and if I do it sometimes takes 2 or 3 dates or a follow up visit. Very often either I or the girl loses interest first. But for me these dates are part of the vacation experience I enjoy no matter what may or may not happen with a girl. But if your plan is to date civs in the early evening just for the company and likely not getting laid, so then needing to go out later for a professional fuck, then your expenses obviously are going up as opposed to simply P4P.

I believe those empanadas, which I suspect are those fried things you put hot sauce or ají on, are actually on calle 9, not calle 10. Also on calle 9, just across the street, are those two places to get a great breakfast, just a block up from the main street, which is 43a, Cra. Poblado I believe. On calle 10, apart from Mondongos, just two blocks or so further up and on the same side of the street, there is a great restaurant catering to the locals, at least great for breakfast.

Best middle eastern food I have ever had. It is owned by an Israeli, Shlomi Something. Try the Marrakech wings. Reasonably priced. Also, best wine I have had in Medellin. (Kaiken Malbec from Mendoza.)

O Velho

[QUOTE=Vitrea]Thank you for this highly informative post (as usual). It is very timely for me. Few days ago I asked for a empanada recommendation and no one responded. I was starting to give up.[/QUOTE]Recently returned from MDE as well and had an excellent and interesting meal at the Lebanese restaurant noted in the post. Watch out for the beets though.

Plan on writing of my experiences in MDE, San Andreas, and Cartagena in near future.

[quote=chesrep001]i believe those empanadas, which i suspect are those fried things you put hot sauce or ají on, are actually on calle 9, not calle 10. also on calle 9, just across the street, are those two places to get a great breakfast, just a block up from the main street, which is 43a, cra. poblado i believe. on calle 10, apart from mondongos, just two blocks or so further up and on the same side of the street, there is a great restaurant catering to the locals, at least great for breakfast.[/quote]an authentic empanada is baked and not fried, but i know what you mean as they look like they may have have been fried. also, a good empanada is not greasy inside or outside. every south american country i go to, i try their empanadas. for me it is part of experiencing true latin culture. can't wait.

Do you have the contact info. I am in Medellin for the next week and would like to try this. They closed my favorite Chinese restaurant by Parque Bolivar so I am looking for another nice place to visit.

[QUOTE=O Velho]Best middle eastern food I have ever had. It is owned by an Israeli, Shlomi Something. Try the Marrakech wings. Reasonably priced. Also, best wine I have had in Medellin. (Kaiken Malbec from Mendoza.)

O Velho[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Justafool]Do you have the contact info. I am in Medellin for the next week and would like to try this. They closed my favorite Chinese restaurant by Parque Bolivar so I am looking for another nice place to visit.[/QUOTE]El Tabun
Carrera 33 No. 7-99
El Poblado
phone: 311-8209

Just lifted this from Doc Bill's report on this page, 8 reports down.

[QUOTE=Vitrea]An authentic Empanada is baked and not fried, but I know what you mean as they look like they may have have been fried. Also, a good empanada is not greasy inside or outside. Every south american country I go to, I try their empanadas. For me it is part of experiencing true latin culture. Can't wait.[/QUOTE]Vitrea

Don't know exactly where you got your information about 'authentic empandadas' being 'baked and not fried' but that certainly isn't my understanding. The varieties of this tasty snack seem to be as varied, and authentic, as the people who make them. The consensus seems to be that they can be either baked or fried, with the latter variety being considered more tasty.

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empanada[/url]

Ciaociao

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[quote=chesrep001]i believe those empanadas, which i suspect are those fried things you put hot sauce or ají on, are actually on calle 9, not calle 10. [/quote]chesrep001,

sorry my bad. you are so right. i got it mixed up because i walk down ave poblado to calle 10 first to drop off my ink cartridges for refilling then walk back to calle 9 for empanada snacking then walk back to calle 10 for the cartridges.


[quote=vitrea]an authentic empanada is baked and not fried, but i know what you mean as they look like they may have have been fried. also, a good empanada is not greasy inside or outside.[/quote]empanadas probably started out being baked rather than fried. sort of like a meat pie. however, i don't believe any of the empanadas i have had in colombia have been baked. and as for the little empanada stand on calle 9, you can watch the dozens upon dozens of empanadas being fried as you munch there. the greasiness of fried foods usually occurs when old worn oil is used or if oil is not hot enough yet when something is place in to fry which allows the oil to soak in. calle 9's empanadas would probably taste different if they baked them but they sure wouldn't be able to keep up the pace of sales they do if they did bake them without a heck of a lot of ovens going.

hope you still try them and post what you thought of them.

stay hungry my friends,


cubanut

[QUOTE=Ciao Ciao]Vitrea

Don't know exactly where you got your information about 'authentic empandadas' being 'baked and not fried' but that certainly isn't my understanding. The varieties of this tasty snack seem to be as varied, and authentic, as the people who make them. The consensus seems to be that they can be either baked or fried, with the latter variety being considered more tasty.

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empanada[/url]

Ciaociao[/QUOTE]Sorry, My Argentinean girlfriend told me. Thank you for enlightening me. Let me go home and enlighten her.

I just returned from Medellin. Just a short 4 day trip to see my novia. Of course the monger came out of me. My novia had to move her stuff to a new apartment one day and left me alone. One of my buddies from Los Angeles that I met on a romance tour 2 years ago was also in town. We decided to catch up on old times at Hooters. Then we headed to Loutron for a one hour session. I already knew Loutron was higher than the average Medellin spot but sometimes I can be a Steinbrenner (high paying) monger. I liked the Nevada style set up at Loutron. The lineup was championship caliber. I had to ask for a second look because all of the girls had the typical Colombian look (light skin, long, straight, jet black hair). I picked Ana Maria who was a little browner skinned and curvier. The hourly rate was 210 mil (115 US) which is high for Colombia but bargain basement compared to what those same girls would have charged in the States. Ana Maria looked no older than 22 so I was surprised when she said she was 31 with 3 children. She said she had lipo but it was hard to tell. Her body was flawless. She had natural breasts that didn't show signs of childbirth. No obvious stretch marks or cellulite. She had a nice round booty which I loved (I'm Black). We started in the shower where she gave me a nice bathing and hj. Then she gave me a massage which I didn't need but it was nice and felt good. She then gave me a cbj. I know a lot of you guys complain about this but I didn't mind. It's understandable when you think about the girl's health and well being. The cbj actually was pretty good. Then we had 3 position sex before I blasted off in the condom. Overall it was a good experience. I went back to my novia as if nothing happened. When I return in November I will return to Loutron but I'll also try some of the cheaper options. That's if I can get away from my novia long enough.

Hey everyone,

I will be making my first trip to MDE from Wed., Dec. 8th- Sun., Dec. 12th later this year. I speak decent Spanish and will be staying in an apartment in Poblado. What bars and/or pick-up spots are there in Medellin like Hotel Del Rey in San Jose, Costa Rica and LDV in Cartagena? I saw "Ladies Club" in Centro mentioned a few pages back but I guess it is only opened on the weekends according to the thread. I know of all the casas in MDE but prefer a take-out place similar to the Del Rey or LDV. Any help is much appreciated.

Hi folks,

Sadly, my post was one that got deleted when Jacksin cleaned house. I will be in Medellin in Nov. For 5 weeks. I was planning on renting a condo while I was there. The complex's I was looking at are in El Poblado, or Ciudad del Rio. Is there anyone here who can tell me what these areas are like, and if they are inconveniently far from Zona Rosa?

Also has anyone dealt with Paradise Realty in Medellin before?

Thankyou for any help anyone can offer.

Simon

Returned last Sunday from my first trip to Medellin (MDE), San Andreas Island (ADZ) and Cartagena (CTG) so will divide the report into three sections for each area of COL.

First, my general comments are that in regard to the overall attractiveness of the women there is no comparison to anywhere else in SA that I have been. I have been to Lima many times, BA more than a few, and several other countries in SA but really felt the woman were much better looking in COL and offered more diversity in looks than these other locales. You can find blonds, redheads, black and morena girls, and some girls whose skin complexion is almost difficult to categorize. Try finding a real blond light skinned girl in Lima or a hot black girl for that matter.

As this was my first trip to MDE, I got a bit lucky in finding a decent small hotel ($35) in the heart of Parque Lleras with a liberal guest policy. This added immeasurably to enjoying the entertainment district in a safe, convenient, and friendly environment. In addition to scoring with a non-pro who I met in Parque Lleras (indeed almost all the girls who come to this area fits the non-pro definition), it was also a good jumping off point for other areas of the city. I did not partake too much in extra curricular activities as the non-pro kept me occupied but did venture to FASE DOS, one of the more expensive strip clubs in MDE. I found the talent there to be generally acceptable but also found it annoying that the girls come up to after dancing on a short runway and asking for tips. You could be on the other side of the bar not even paying attention but rest assured they will find you to request a propina. After several hours, the costs of these tips can add up.

I finally settled on an attractive strawberry blond by the name of Diana who had a Gwen Paltrow look. As it was late and near closing time, she arranged to meet me outside the bar after it closed to avoid paying the take out fee. That way, of course, she got all the proceeds as well. We proceeded to my hotel for one go around and the price was $75. She was not bad overall, and as it was late, I did not protest about having her stay around to the morning. We did arrange to meet again the next evening to go to Mangos. She basically acted as my date/GF for the evening at Mango's. I have to say that I thought Mango's was a blast and really fun. The gorgeous girl dancers are worth the price of admission alone. It's a must see if you go to MDE. She came back to the hotel again for another bit of horizontal refreshment and I was actually successful in getting her off. Alas, the GFE did not include a freebie and she still wanted $75. She actually wanted me to meet her daughter one day and take them on the cable ride but since she also appeared that she wanted to be paid every time I saw her, I decided to stick with the non-pro.

I also drove by Luna Lunera (sp?), another strip club recommended on this board, and my taxi driver, but did not have time to go in. While in MDE, I also tried to find another casa near the soccer stadium called Energie, but as it was Sunday, it was closed. However, it looked like a real dump. The taxi driver then took me to a casa called Oriente, which was located on a small lane above El Poblado but that too was closed on Sunday. I also went to the Botanical Gardens, which was a short walk from the metro stop at Universidad. I noticed quite a few attractive girls there on a Saturday afternoon and it may be a good place to meet regular girls. It was also free admission and there is a nice lunch spot at the gardens.

After that I proceed to San Andreas Island and was a bit concerned what it would be like there. Overall, I did not care for the island. Only 3 real beaches on the island and just not that much to do. However, I did meet a couple of guys who ran a tiki bar near the Coco Plum Hotel. One spoke pretty good english and he took me to a strip club/casa called Sexi, which was located near the airport. If I had known the actual location, I would gone by myself as it was easy to find. I ended up paying too much for the taxi as it was Monday and the taxi guy hung around while I selected my girl so it cost some more for the convenience of having him wait. Apparently, there are at least two other clubs/casa's on the island but of lower quality according to my guide. The waiter at Sexi tried to rip me off, which was corrected by the guide so I guess that was a benefit of having a guide. The other problem on the island is that the hotels generally suck and are overpriced. On top of that they want extra for guests. Almost the same price you pay as a single. As it was, I had to slip the night watchman a few bucks when I brought my girl back but slipped her out in the morning undetected.

I was fortunate that evening as I met a very sexy morena from MDE who was working at the club for three months. As it was explained to me, all the girls were from the mainland or 'continente as they say in Espanol. We negotiated a deal where she would be my girlfriend, more or less, for that evening and the following day. I think the cost was $200 (including the take out fee) from 9 that evening to 7pm the next day. She was great and I had a good time with her. Cute slim body, great ass, allowed photo's, pleasant personality, and I would call her again if I return to MDE. We went swimming the next day and she hung on to me in the water as if we were old lovers. A pleasant memory.

At the end of the trip, I journeyed to CTG. I stayed in a decent little hotel ($40 for a private room) for the first two nights in Getsemani, which is an old barrio just outside the walls to the ancient city called El Centro. I found the area to be safe and though it could look sketchy, I felt pretty comfortable walking around in the evening. The hotel was down the street from the Club Havana. A great salsa club. I went by myself and was accosted by a few prepago's of diminished quality who were offering me a massage in my room etc. But I declined. The last two nights, I was fortunate to find a private apartment with a loft in the old city for $70 per night. It was located in Plaza Madrid, a very nice little park in the northern part of the old town.

I was only in CTG for 4 nights and decided to finish up at the (in)famous LDV disco in Laguito. It really is not that hard to find and any decent taxi driver should get you there for $5 from El Centro. It's across the street from the Dann Hotel. I also decided that I did not have the energy to deal with Tony on the beach. But I will say that I saw some spectacular girls around the city with old and not really good looking guys though how they met these girls, I am not certain so maybe it is worth dealing with Tony. Overall, I found the city to be a blast and was the most interesting part of my trip.

Anyway, LDV lived up to their reputation. Really good looking woman of all types and varieties who would put Tequila Rocks to shame. There is just no comparison. I honed in on a pretty young co-ed type blond (again from MDE) though did not want to hang in LDV too long as the incessant noise, fake smoke, and atmosphere was not appealing to me. This may have reduced some of my negotiating skills as I wanted to beat it out of there as fast as possible. I recall that the blond agreed to an overnight for around $150. She also told me, quite matter of fact, that she was trying to make money to go to Panama for a while. As discussed on many occasions on the board, the problem is that the really pretty one's frequently don't really deliver service wise and for the most part, she was no exception. After a while, the fake squeals and moans were hard to take. She also would not allow photo's (again, forgot to ask), would not offer blowjobs of any type because she claimed she had a sore throat (WTF?). Forgot to ask that too. Next time, I will take a cheat sheet or write it on my hand like Sarah Palin.

All of these questions were not asked because I was in such a hurry to leave the club. On the plus side, she spoke really good English, which was a first for me in COL, as she had just completed an English course in MDE. One other thing: you have to buy an expensive drink at LDV ($15) before they can leave with you. I don't recall this being mentioned on the board before but was curious if I should have held my ground here or if that is the standard take out fee.

My final night in CTG, which was a Saturday, I realized much to my chagrin

That my flight left too early in Sunday morning and I decided not to go out late. I would recommend, if at all possible, to book your departure flight for Monday morning leaving plenty of time to party on Saturday evening.

[QUOTE=Tomasb]Returned last Sunday from my first trip to Medellin (MDE), San Andreas Island (ADZ) and Cartagena (CTG) so will divide the report into three sections for each area of COL.

First, my general comments are that in regard to the overall attractiveness of the women there is no comparison to anywhere else in SA that I have been. I have been to Lima many times, BA more than a few, and several other countries in SA but really felt the woman were much better looking in COL and offered more diversity in looks than these other locales. You can find blonds, redheads, black and morena girls, and some girls whose skin complexion is almost difficult to categorize. Try finding a real blond light skinned girl in Lima or a hot black girl for that matter.

As this was my first trip to MDE, I got a bit lucky in finding a decent small hotel ($35) in the heart of Parque Lleras with a liberal guest policy. This added immeasurably to enjoying the entertainment district in a safe, convenient, and friendly environment. In addition to scoring with a non-pro who I met in Parque Lleras (indeed almost all the girls who come to this area fits the non-pro definition), it was also a good jumping off point for other areas of the city. I did not partake too much in extra curricular activities as the non-pro kept me occupied but did venture to FASE DOS, one of the more expensive strip clubs in MDE. I found the talent there to be generally acceptable but also found it annoying that the girls come up to after dancing on a short runway and asking for tips. You could be on the other side of the bar not even paying attention but rest assured they will find you to request a propina. After several hours, the costs of these tips can add up.

I finally settled on an attractive strawberry blond by the name of Diana who had a Gwen Paltrow look. As it was late and near closing time, she arranged to meet me outside the bar after it closed to avoid paying the take out fee. That way, of course, she got all the proceeds as well. We proceeded to my hotel for one go around and the price was $75. She was not bad overall, and as it was late, I did not protest about having her stay around to the morning. We did arrange to meet again the next evening to go to Mangos. She basically acted as my date/GF for the evening at Mango's. I have to say that I thought Mango's was a blast and really fun. The gorgeous girl dancers are worth the price of admission alone. It's a must see if you go to MDE. She came back to the hotel again for another bit of horizontal refreshment and I was actually successful in getting her off. Alas, the GFE did not include a freebie and she still wanted $75. She actually wanted me to meet her daughter one day and take them on the cable ride but since she also appeared that she wanted to be paid every time I saw her, I decided to stick with the non-pro.

I also drove by Luna Lunera (sp?), another strip club recommended on this board, and my taxi driver, but did not have time to go in. While in MDE, I also tried to find another casa near the soccer stadium called Energie, but as it was Sunday, it was closed. However, it looked like a real dump. The taxi driver then took me to a casa called Oriente, which was located on a small lane above El Poblado but that too was closed on Sunday. I also went to the Botanical Gardens, which was a short walk from the metro stop at Universidad. I noticed quite a few attractive girls there on a Saturday afternoon and it may be a good place to meet regular girls. It was also free admission and there is a nice lunch spot at the gardens.

After that I proceed to San Andreas Island and was a bit concerned what it would be like there. Overall, I did not care for the island. Only 3 real beaches on the island and just not that much to do. However, I did meet a couple of guys who ran a tiki bar near the Coco Plum Hotel. One spoke pretty good english and he took me to a strip club/casa called Sexi, which was located near the airport. If I had known the actual location, I would gone by myself as it was easy to find. I ended up paying too much for the taxi as it was Monday and the taxi guy hung around while I selected my girl so it cost some more for the convenience of having him wait. Apparently, there are at least two other clubs/casa's on the island but of lower quality according to my guide. The waiter at Sexi tried to rip me off, which was corrected by the guide so I guess that was a benefit of having a guide. The other problem on the island is that the hotels generally suck and are overpriced. On top of that they want extra for guests. Almost the same price you pay as a single. As it was, I had to slip the night watchman a few bucks when I brought my girl back but slipped her out in the morning undetected.

I was fortunate that evening as I met a very sexy morena from MDE who was working at the club for three months. As it was explained to me, all the girls were from the mainland or 'continente as they say in Espanol. We negotiated a deal where she would be my girlfriend, more or less, for that evening and the following day. I think the cost was $200 (including the take out fee) from 9 that evening to 7pm the next day. She was great and I had a good time with her. Cute slim body, great ass, allowed photo's, pleasant personality, and I would call her again if I return to MDE. We went swimming the next day and she hung on to me in the water as if we were old lovers. A pleasant memory.

At the end of the trip, I journeyed to CTG. I stayed in a decent little hotel ($40 for a private room) for the first two nights in Getsemani, which is an old barrio just outside the walls to the ancient city called El Centro. I found the area to be safe and though it could look sketchy, I felt pretty comfortable walking around in the evening. The hotel was down the street from the Club Havana. A great salsa club. I went by myself and was accosted by a few prepago's of diminished quality who were offering me a massage in my room etc. But I declined. The last two nights, I was fortunate to find a private apartment with a loft in the old city for $70 per night. It was located in Plaza Madrid, a very nice little park in the northern part of the old town.

I was only in CTG for 4 nights and decided to finish up at the (in)famous LDV disco in Laguito. It really is not that hard to find and any decent taxi driver should get you there for $5 from El Centro. It's across the street from the Dann Hotel. I also decided that I did not have the energy to deal with Tony on the beach. But I will say that I saw some spectacular girls around the city with old and not really good looking guys though how they met these girls, I am not certain so maybe it is worth dealing with Tony. Overall, I found the city to be a blast and was the most interesting part of my trip.

Anyway, LDV lived up to their reputation. Really good looking woman of all types and varieties who would put Tequila Rocks to shame. There is just no comparison. I honed in on a pretty young co-ed type blond (again from MDE) though did not want to hang in LDV too long as the incessant noise, fake smoke, and atmosphere was not appealing to me. This may have reduced some of my negotiating skills as I wanted to beat it out of there as fast as possible. I recall that the blond agreed to an overnight for around $150. She also told me, quite matter of fact, that she was trying to make money to go to Panama for a while. As discussed on many occasions on the board, the problem is that the really pretty one's frequently don't really deliver service wise and for the most part, she was no exception. After a while, the fake squeals and moans were hard to take. She also would not allow photo's (again, forgot to ask), would not offer blowjobs of any type because she claimed she had a sore throat (WTF?). Forgot to ask that too. Next time, I will take a cheat sheet or write it on my hand like Sarah Palin.

All of these questions were not asked because I was in such a hurry to leave the club. On the plus side, she spoke really good English, which was a first for me in COL, as she had just completed an English course in MDE. One other thing: you have to buy an expensive drink at LDV ($15) before they can leave with you. I don't recall this being mentioned on the board before but was curious if I should have held my ground here or if that is the standard take out fee.

My final night in CTG, which was a Saturday, I realized much to my chagrin

That my flight left too early in Sunday morning and I decided not to go out late. I would recommend, if at all possible, to book your departure flight for Monday morning leaving plenty of time to party on Saturday evening.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the great report. I was surprised to learn there is P4P in San Andres.

Of course most guys bring a Novia with them so it is not needed, but still nice to know.

As far as LDV in CTG, I have taken many girls out of there and never had to buy an exit drink. I was there last July but of course things may have changed. To me one of the things I always liked about LDV was the girls were completly free lancers. For them to start crap like demanding a exit drink is to me like having a bar fine. I hate bar fines. Anyway I now prefer Electra after LDV closes and they have no bar fine for sure.

Tomasb,

I especially enjoyed the intel on san adres. Such reports can save a monger valuable ground time.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Tomasb]. While in MDE, I also tried to find another casa near the soccer stadium called Energie, but as it was Sunday, it was closed. However, it looked like a real dump.[/QUOTE]Great trip report!

Thanks.

Energy though is definitely not a dump. Maybe your taxista took you by the wrong place.

If it was closed when you went by, all you would see is some steps leading to a big wooden door.

Not dumpy looking at all, and it's actually one of the nicer facilities, especially compared to some of the casas in el Central.

[QUOTE=Simon Says]Hi folks,

Sadly, my post was one that got deleted when Jacksin cleaned house. I will be in Medellin in Nov. For 5 weeks. I was planning on renting a condo while I was there. The complex's I was looking at are in El Poblado, or Ciudad del Rio. Is there anyone here who can tell me what these areas are like, and if they are inconveniently far from Zona Rosa?

Also has anyone dealt with Paradise Realty in Medellin before?

Thankyou for any help anyone can offer.

Simon[/QUOTE]Stay in the Poblado. That is where the Zona Rosa is, many good restaurants, and the safest area in Medellin.

As I read further I found the address. The message had not yet hit so I could not amend. I wrote to have admin delete but I guess it was pulished anyway. Thanks

[QUOTE=Vitrea]El Tabun
Carrera 33 No. 7-99
El Poblado
phone: 311-8209

Just lifted this from Doc Bill's report on this page, 8 reports down.[/QUOTE]

Hey guys,

I've been to Medellin and planning to go Cali cuz I here casas and clubs are cheaper. Is that true? The mongering was great in medellin. In a lot of places I got a real gfe. Do you thing I'll get that in Cali?

Thanks

For what it is worth, they also have rooms at the Sexi Club so you can slip in for a quickie while your GF is shopping.

[QUOTE=Vics Picks]Thanks for the great report. I was surprised to learn there is P4P in San Andres.

Of course most guys bring a Novia with them so it is not needed, but still nice to know.

As far as LDV in CTG, I have taken many girls out of there and never had to buy an exit drink. I was there last July but of course things may have changed. To me one of the things I always liked about LDV was the girls were completly free lancers. For them to start crap like demanding a exit drink is to me like having a bar fine. I hate bar fines. Anyway I now prefer Electra after LDV closes and they have no bar fine for sure.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Cubanut]Empanadas probably started out being baked rather than fried. Sort of like a meat pie. However, I don't believe any of the Empanadas I have had in Colombia have been baked.[/QUOTE]Salon Versalles is located in downtown Medellin at Junin. The most popular empanada there is the empanada Argentina. Like the other popular empanada (Chilena) in that place, it is baked.

[QUOTE=Tomasb]Anyway, LDV lived up to their reputation. Really good looking woman of all types and varieties who would put Tequila Rocks to shame. There is just no comparison. I honed in on a pretty young co-ed type blond (again from MDE) though did not want to hang in LDV too long as the incessant noise, fake smoke, and atmosphere was not appealing to me. This may have reduced some of my negotiating skills as I wanted to beat it out of there as fast as possible. I recall that the blond agreed to an overnight for around $150. She also told me, quite matter of fact, that she was trying to make money to go to Panama for a while. As discussed on many occasions on the board, the problem is that the really pretty one's frequently don't really deliver service wise and for the most part, she was no exception. After a while, the fake squeals and moans were hard to take. She also would not allow photo's (again, forgot to ask), would not offer blowjobs of any type because she claimed she had a sore throat (WTF?). Forgot to ask that too. Next time, I will take a cheat sheet or write it on my hand like Sarah Palin.

All of these questions were not asked because I was in such a hurry to leave the club. On the plus side, she spoke really good English, which was a first for me in COL, as she had just completed an English course in MDE. One other thing: you have to buy an expensive drink at LDV ($15) before they can leave with you. I don't recall this being mentioned on the board before but was curious if I should have held my ground here or if that is the standard take out fee.[/QUOTE]I can't see LDV imposing a take out fee when the girl can just walk out the door at anytime. They do not work for LDV. Take out fees usually apply when a house offers in house service which LDV does not offer.

Most likely the girl scammed you for the drink of which she got her cut. The girl probably has already worked in Panama or Bogota or some other gringo destination where she has honed her low ball skills.

I can't see LDV management ok'ing the drink fee but a shady bartender may play into the scam. To be quite honest I hate the loud noisy and fake fog disco scene. When in Cartagena I go to LDV early and hang out in front so I can see the gals as they arrive a few times I just approached a hottie and took her back to my place without either of us stepping inside LDV.

One of the worse things to find in a por is that she speaks English. The questions flow like a faucet. My guess is one of the first things she asked was if you had ever been to LDV before. These are the kinda of girls that you really do have to negotiate EVEYTHING up front including no payment until AFTER the session. This gives the girl almost no leverage.

The one good thing about Cartagena or Colombia for that matter is that the girls seldom go nutso on you should you have to toss them out for renegging on a set deal. Unlike the many of the garotas (girls) in Rio that do a bait and switch and yet expect get paid and also threaten to get the police involved, the Colombianas are usually cool headed, unless of course they are drunk. Can't tell you how many of my buddies had a Brazillian chic trash their place. Many just paid them to get them to leave.

What kinda sucks about being at LDV and in Cartagena in general is that most of the hottest chicas are from Medellin. So unless you dig the old city or the dirty beaches then why leave Medellin and pay 2, 3 or 4 times as much for the same quality poon as what you find in Medellin?

Cheers,

Cubanut

Been here since Saturday morning. Overall it's a pretty good spot, but not totally what I was expecting. I've been to Cuba five times about 8 years ago and there the girls just flock to you on the streets. Every chick in Cuba was a semi pro. In mde you can go up to normal girls but it's not the same. They don't flock to you, you have to make all the effort. Definitely more work in mde. Mayorista is dirty and mostly ugly girls. Casas are good. Good quality for about $15 although you have to search through for a good one. Lots of dogs there too. Raining every fucking day which is not helping my mood. Will post more soon.

[QUOTE=Dcfan77]Hey guys,

I've been to Medellin and planning to go Cali cuz I here casas and clubs are cheaper. Is that true? The mongering was great in medellin. In a lot of places I got a real gfe. Do you thing I'll get that in Cali?

Thanks[/QUOTE]The mongering is good in Cali, but I doubt it is cheaper. Your best bet to get good service in Cali is to find a good driver as Cali is not point and click as MDE is.

[QUOTE=Cubanut]I can't see LDV imposing a take out fee when the girl can just walk out the door at anytime. They do not work for LDV. Take out fees usually apply when a house offers in house service which LDV does not offer.

Most likely the girl scammed you for the drink of which she got her cut. The girl probably has already worked in Panama or Bogota or some other gringo destination where she has honed her low ball skills.

I can't see LDV management ok'ing the drink fee but a shady bartender may play into the scam. To be quite honest I hate the loud noisy and fake fog disco scene. When in Cartagena I go to LDV early and hang out in front so I can see the gals as they arrive a few times I just approached a hottie and took her back to my place without either of us stepping inside LDV.

One of the worse things to find in a por is that she speaks English. The questions flow like a faucet. My guess is one of the first things she asked was if you had ever been to LDV before. These are the kinda of girls that you really do have to negotiate EVEYTHING up front including no payment until AFTER the session. This gives the girl almost no leverage.

The one good thing about Cartagena or Colombia for that matter is that the girls seldom go nutso on you should you have to toss them out for renegging on a set deal. Unlike the many of the garotas (girls) in Rio that do a bait and switch and yet expect get paid and also threaten to get the police involved, the Colombianas are usually cool headed, unless of course they are drunk. Can't tell you how many of my buddies had a Brazillian chic trash their place. Many just paid them to get them to leave.

What kinda sucks about being at LDV and in Cartagena in general is that most of the hottest chicas are from Medellin. So unless you dig the old city or the dirty beaches then why leave Medellin and pay 2, 3 or 4 times as much for the same quality poon as what you find in Medellin?

Cheers,

Cubanut[/QUOTE]Your post reminds me of my visit to Costa Rica. As I was in the Del Ray and saw all the stunners were from Colombia and asking for the cien I thought why not I go to the sourse instead of paying top dollar for the hotel and the girls in CR. Needless to say I have not and never will return to Costa Rica.

Also speaking on Costa Rica, while I was there I had two Nicas and I found them to be by far the best providers. I have been putting off a trip to Nicaraqua, but I now just booked two weeks in Nov. To give that spot a try.

This was a hard call for me as Colombia has been great, but even though I know Colombia is a sure winner for me I still like to have some adventure.

All good points. Waiting outside is the best strategy. One could even go inside briefly, select someone, and ask a girl to step outside to talk. From there, you can simply leave and avoid all the racket inside.

I was approached by a waiter who mentioned the drink requirement when she told him we were leaving. She left me briefly during our conversation/negotiation so this must be some kind of pre advanced setup on a newbie. I almost said forget it right there and in retrospect I should have but then thought I must have missed this about LDV when RTFF.

She also did not ask me if I had been to LDV before and I believed her when she said that she was trying to make money to pay for a visa for her first trip to Panama. She even expressed concern that she would not make that much more money if she went. I did not pay her beforehand but had not negotiated oral as I figured that was standard.

Also, if you read my post, you will see that the girl I met in San Andres and the one in Cartagena were both from MDE so your right why leave MDE as that was where I started my trip to begin with. I did enjoy Cartagena though, not so much for the lousy beaches but the general atmosphere in the old town.

[QUOTE=Cubanut]I can't see LDV imposing a take out fee when the girl can just walk out the door at anytime. They do not work for LDV. Take out fees usually apply when a house offers in house service which LDV does not offer.

Most likely the girl scammed you for the drink of which she got her cut. The girl probably has already worked in Panama or Bogota or some other gringo destination where she has honed her low ball skills.

I can't see LDV management ok'ing the drink fee but a shady bartender may play into the scam. To be quite honest I hate the loud noisy and fake fog disco scene. When in Cartagena I go to LDV early and hang out in front so I can see the gals as they arrive a few times I just approached a hottie and took her back to my place without either of us stepping inside LDV.

One of the worse things to find in a por is that she speaks English. The questions flow like a faucet. My guess is one of the first things she asked was if you had ever been to LDV before. These are the kinda of girls that you really do have to negotiate EVEYTHING up front including no payment until AFTER the session. This gives the girl almost no leverage.

The one good thing about Cartagena or Colombia for that matter is that the girls seldom go nutso on you should you have to toss them out for renegging on a set deal. Unlike the many of the garotas (girls) in Rio that do a bait and switch and yet expect get paid and also threaten to get the police involved, the Colombianas are usually cool headed, unless of course they are drunk. Can't tell you how many of my buddies had a Brazillian chic trash their place. Many just paid them to get them to leave.

What kinda sucks about being at LDV and in Cartagena in general is that most of the hottest chicas are from Medellin. So unless you dig the old city or the dirty beaches then why leave Medellin and pay 2, 3 or 4 times as much for the same quality poon as what you find in Medellin?

Cheers,

Cubanut[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Cubanut]... One of the worse things to find in a por is that she speaks English. The questions flow like a faucet. My guess is one of the first things she asked was if you had ever been to LDV before. These are the kinda of girls that you really do have to negotiate EVEYTHING up front including no payment until AFTER the session. This gives the girl almost no leverage ...

Cheers,

Cubanut[/QUOTE]Amen brother!

I run from those chicas unless I'm in the mood for a duel of wits.

Battle weary monger vs hot hardened pro. Hahaha.

Sometimes the challenge is fun.

[QUOTE=Cubanut]The one good thing about Cartagena or Colombia for that matter is that the girls seldom go nutso on you should you have to toss them out for renegging on a set deal. Unlike the many of the garotas (girls) in Rio that do a bait and switch and yet expect get paid and also threaten to get the police involved, the Colombianas are usually cool headed, unless of course they are drunk. Can't tell you how many of my buddies had a Brazillian chic trash their place. Many just paid them to get them to leave ...

Cheers,

Cubanut[/QUOTE]Also a good point here Cubanut.

In Brazil, the police will generally support the chica (garota), and the chica knows it.

In Colombia they generally don't have that support and subsequent power.

Don't think it has anything to do with the Colombiana being more cool headed, which actually they are not IMO, just has to do with the power or lack of it when push comes to shove.

Hey, enough about chicas, let's get back to the empanada debate. Hehehe.

[QUOTE=Dave7613]Been here since Saturday morning. Overall it's a pretty good spot, but not totally what I was expecting. I've been to Cuba five times about 8 years ago and there the girls just flock to you on the streets. Every chick in Cuba was a semi pro. In mde you can go up to normal girls but it's not the same. They don't flock to you, you have to make all the effort. Definitely more work in mde. Mayorista is dirty and mostly ugly girls. Casas are good. Good quality for about $15 although you have to search through for a good one. Lots of dogs there too. Raining every fucking day which is not helping my mood. Will post more soon.[/QUOTE]Having them flock is part of the charm.

Any girl that flocks to you is a definite pro!

Also, it's a sign that sex tourists have been there in full force.

[QUOTE=Runner Up]Haha. I was thinking about a trip and was supposed to leave today but the rain forecast made the decision for me. Is it that bad? I really need a vacation for a few days and have time next week.[/QUOTE]My last three trips to MDE this year was rain, rain, rain. I don't think I saw 2 days in a row without rain. This is really bad for me as I like to walk a lot. Of course it really doesn't rain all day and carrying a unbrealla is always a option.

[QUOTE=Runner Up]Haha. I was thinking about a trip and was supposed to leave today but the rain forecast made the decision for me. Is it that bad? I really need a vacation for a few days and have time next week.[/QUOTE]Rain is not too bad. It rains pretty much every day but some days it is very minor, for 20 minutes or so. The weather is cool though, definitely not hot.

Perish the thought. Makes it more fun, splash around Parque LLeras with the babe in the mud, kind of like football in November.

[QUOTE=Dave7613]Rain is not too bad. It rains pretty much every day but some days it is very minor, for 20 minutes or so. The weather is cool though, definitely not hot.[/QUOTE]Dave7613 and Vicks picks, seriously, I need some on the ground practical info. I am getting ready to pack for my trip. Might sound silly to some .... Do I need heavy duty rain gear or a hotel umbrella would do? I want to do what the locals do and not stick out like a sore thumb.

Talking about packing, do locals walk around in shorts and T shirts during the day? It is not always about the weather right. When I go to Asia, I notice that it might be hot as hell but it is rare to see an adult walking around in shorts.

[QUOTE=Vitrea]Dave7613 and Vicks picks, seriously, I need some on the ground practical info. I am getting ready to pack for my trip. Might sound silly to some .... Do I need heavy duty rain gear or a hotel umbrella would do? I want to do what the locals do and not stick out like a sore thumb.

Talking about packing, do locals walk around in shorts and T shirts during the day? It is not always about the weather right. When I go to Asia, I notice that it might be hot as hell but it is rare to see an adult walking around in shorts.[/QUOTE]A small umbrella would do - definitely not heavy duty rain gear (unless you're planning on riding a motorcycle). If you're going to be staying and hanging around mostly the Parque Lleras/ Poblado area then you should be ok wearing shorts and T shirts as you will be in the company of others who will be doing the same. It is also relatively rare to see locals wearing shorts around here except for when they go play soccer matches and/or on Sundays when people go walking and riding their bikes at the CICLOVIA. I highly recommend the Poblado Sunday CICLOVIAS as they are one of my highlights of the city. The fact that you can walk on the street without having to worry too much about getting run over or driven down by a vehicle comes close to the experience of having so many casas and mongering venues to choose from.

Cheers!

[QUOTE=Vitrea]Dave7613 and Vicks picks, seriously, I need some on the ground practical info. I am getting ready to pack for my trip. Might sound silly to some. Do I need heavy duty rain gear or a hotel umbrella would do? I want to do what the locals do and not stick out like a sore thumb.

Talking about packing, do locals walk around in shorts and T shirts during the day? It is not always about the weather right. When I go to Asia, I notice that it might be hot as hell but it is rare to see an adult walking around in shorts.[/QUOTE]You will not see many locals in shorts. Wearing shorts and especially at night will make you stand out like a sore thumb.

The rain is a pain, but really not that bad. A small umbrella is all you need.

Except for this year on my other trips to MDE it never rained that much. This could be that on your trip the rains will stop. No matter rain or not MDE rules. I just saw a very cheap flight to MDE so over my Wingmans request that I am nuts, I am looking into another trip to pussy heaven. After all it has been 8 days since I got home from my last trip and my Willie is looking for a good home and of course New Jersey is not the place for him.

[QUOTE=Vitrea]Dave7613 and Vicks picks, seriously, I need some on the ground practical info. I am getting ready to pack for my trip. Might sound silly to some .... Do I need heavy duty rain gear or a hotel umbrella would do? I want to do what the locals do and not stick out like a sore thumb.

Talking about packing, do locals walk around in shorts and T shirts during the day? It is not always about the weather right. When I go to Asia, I notice that it might be hot as hell but it is rare to see an adult walking around in shorts.[/QUOTE]A simple umbrella would be fine. You don't need heavy duty anything. I walk around in shorts during the day, and at night I wear jeans. It's in the upper 70s during the day, so really you could wear either and be comfortable. At night definitely jeans. You won't stick out wearing shorts, nobody gives a shit.

[QUOTE=Vics Picks]The mongering is good in Cali, but I doubt it is cheaper. Your best bet to get good service in Cali is to find a good driver as Cali is not point and click as MDE is.[/QUOTE]Thanks, so maybe I should go to Cali and try something new. I did like the fact that Medellin had good trains.

[QUOTE=Vitrea]Dave7613 and Vicks picks, seriously, I need some on the ground practical info. I am getting ready to pack for my trip. Might sound silly to some .... Do I need heavy duty rain gear or a hotel umbrella would do? I want to do what the locals do and not stick out like a sore thumb.

Talking about packing, do locals walk around in shorts and T shirts during the day? It is not always about the weather right. When I go to Asia, I notice that it might be hot as hell but it is rare to see an adult walking around in shorts.[/QUOTE]Maybe I can help. Preparing for Medellin for me is less about making a fashion statement and more about comfort and being prepared for the climate. I always pack a little tote umbrella that I always carry at night. Nice shoes I leave at home along with dress slacks. White sneakers won't be white when you return, so wear dark sneakers. I usually sport some comfortable leather lloufers, preferably dark color. Shorts are not needed outside(or in fashion) but I take a couple pair to lounge around the pad wearing, but a few pair of durable jeans are. A nice comfortable shirt. Also take a light jacket just in case the temp drops. To sum it up don't take your first string wardrobe, take the second or third string wardrobe, something more expendable and comfortable is better. I hang in strip clubs and deal with street walkers, so fashion is not needed.

If your dealing with more upper class establishments, maybe the first string might be appropiate.

[QUOTE=Vitrea]Talking about packing, do locals walk around in shorts and T shirts during the day? It is not always about the weather right. When I go to Asia, I notice that it might be hot as hell but it is rare to see an adult walking around in shorts.[/QUOTE]Do not walk around MDE in shorts if you are more than 12 years old. In Poblado you might get away with it, but other than at the Pool it is not appropriate. Jeans, T shirt and athletic shoes seem to be the standard daytime dress in MDE, it is less dressy than some other Latin countries I have been to and perhaps more Americanized, but still no shorts.

In my experience a small travel umbrella or a light rain jacket is sufficient. Occasionally it will really pour, but then you go inside a cafe or bar or something. It won't last that long.

If they are long enough to go past your knees and you are not over 60, but even then the locals walk around with the longer version of shorts. They appear to like the Hip-Hop deal even if they do not know Hip-Hop.

[QUOTE=Errol Flynn]Do not walk around MDE in shorts if you are more than 12 years old. In Poblado you might get away with it, but other than at the Pool it is not appropriate. Jeans, T shirt and athletic shoes seem to be the standard daytime dress in MDE, it is less dressy than some other Latin countries I have been to and perhaps more Americanized, but still no shorts.

In my experience a small travel umbrella or a light rain jacket is sufficient. Occasionally it will really pour, but then you go inside a cafe or bar or something. It won't last that long.[/QUOTE]

Anyone else have the same problem with Ejecutiva?

The ¨security¨and a waiter has befriended me.

In 2009, Dec., I went in there with my wife, her idea not mine, she wanted to know what strip clubs in MDE are like. SHe has been with me in strip clubs in the US and in Aruba but she claims she had never been to one in Colombia until I took her to Ejecutiva.

Anyway, we enjoyed ourselves and now when I pass by I have that security guard asking me to for una lega. The other day he asked me for 2000 so he can get something to eat. He has done nothing for me but give me a ¨free¨ feel when I went in that time and the one time after in Feb. Yet he thinks I need to list him as one of my dependents.

For the waiter, he remembered me getting wasted when I was there with my wife and the two time after that ushered me to a table and served me. Then asked in a confirming tone, we are friends, will you buy me a drink. I bought him two drinks that night, Pilsen, and he did not drink one of them. It was for him to get that little more out of me. When I went back in Feb. He again said the same and I replied, ¨friend, it is your turn to buy¨.

I have not been inside the bar since Feb. And do not plan on returning but I do pass the bar most every day in El Centro and I am still hustled by that security guard.

Just to infom and to see if other, regulars or semi-regulars have the same experience.

[QUOTE=Errol Flynn]Do not walk around MDE in shorts if you are more than 12 years old. In Poblado you might get away with it, but other than at the Pool it is not appropriate. Jeans, T shirt and athletic shoes seem to be the standard daytime dress in MDE, it is less dressy than some other Latin countries I have been to and perhaps more Americanized, but still no shorts.

In my experience a small travel umbrella or a light rain jacket is sufficient. Occasionally it will really pour, but then you go inside a cafe or bar or something. It won't last that long.[/QUOTE]Hi Guys, What is the problem with appearing Americanized. While I was in CTG I mostly wore khaki shorts and Nike polos. This worked to my advantage there because everyone knew I was not from there. I would say after about 5 sec of making eye contact the girl would ask " de donde eres". Where are you from. Just replied and smiled California USA. Girls lved that I hooked up with mor locL girls than pros and each encounter with a local gis happend that way. Why is this different in MDE. I it because of the weather?

Dave 7613, Gogo and Errol Flynn: Thank you. That is exactly the kind of input I needed. If you see someone walking around in shorts or dress pants, that would not be me.

Gracias

Is there anyone here who has experienced both places?

I love latina pussy and the sexiness of them, but also love the small asian spinners.

How does Columbia compare for price and also pussy preformance?

[QUOTE=Vandaddio]Is there anyone here who has experienced both places?

I love latina pussy and the sexiness of them, but also love the small asian spinners.

How does Columbia compare for price and also pussy preformance?[/QUOTE]I some experience with both, and am now in Hong Kong area. First the similarities, both groups tend to be very passionate and give great GFE type sessions for the most part. They treat you like a "boyfriend" and get a little jealous if you choose another girl. The filipina gals are more like this than the paisas in my experience. Both seem to be proud of their national heritage and also have an "built in" sexiness that is almost irresistible.

As far as body types I think the paisas tend to have more curves and larger bundas, while I found not many "true" spinners in Columbia, they are prolific in the Fils. The fils gals, tend to be small breasted and small bundas, but they know how to use their assets well. The paisas drip sexiness and are rightly proud of their femininity and use it well.

It would be hard to choose only one, the fils gals are a little more "sincere" but you can't go wrong with either. It is a great problem to have!

Enjoy

Yes, I am as I'm sure others on this board are.

My experience of Colombia though is mostly limited to Cartagena and not Medellin. Most of this is obviously just my opinion

Philippines is much cheaper than Colombia. This is especially true these days with the extremely poor exchange rate against the USD and EUR. Not only that, but prices have gone up in Colombia over the last 5 years. However, from what I can see there's still some value in MDE, but CTG is very expensive these days.

Philippines, IMO, have the hottest and most GFE girls in all of Asia, so it's a good choice.

Colombian girls are much hotter than Phil girls. The average standard of girls in a place such as LDV in CTG, for example, won't be found in PI.

A 100%, out-and-out sex destination such as Angeles City (current problems not withstanding) doesn't really exist in CO.

My personal feeling is if you haven't been to either destination then you'll have a great time whichever place you choose.

If money is an issue, choose PI.
If you speak a little Spanish, choose CO.
If you live in the US, choose CO
If you want 24 hour sex, choose PI specifically AC.

[QUOTE=Vandaddio]Is there anyone here who has experienced both places?

I love latina pussy and the sexiness of them, but also love the small asian spinners.

How does Columbia compare for price and also pussy preformance?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Caliguy 2010]Hi Guys, What is the problem with appearing Americanized. While I was in CTG I mostly wore khaki shorts and Nike polos. This worked to my advantage there because everyone knew I was not from there. I would say after about 5 sec of making eye contact the girl would ask " de donde eres". Where are you from. Just replied and smiled California USA. Girls lved that I hooked up with mor locL girls than pros and each encounter with a local gis happend that way. Why is this different in MDE. I it because of the weather?[/QUOTE]CTG is so damn hot and humid, I stuck with shorts even if that did make me stand out, which meant those annoying street touts almost never left me alone. In MDE, you don't have to worry about touts but there are some areas in MDE and BOG where you might be concerned about potentially more dangerous things: street crime, pick pockets, scammers, etc.

In general, it always helps when you travel to "blend in" as much as you can with the locals. I know, however, that's a tall order for many gringos who always seem to be in a sweaty hot mess in weather over 60 deg. F ;) Even in Cali, which gets quite hot during the afternoon, I was able to comfortably wear long thin khakis, but CTG is the one place I make an exception, wearing the long stuff only at night.

[QUOTE=Justafool]Anyone else have the same problem with Ejecutiva?

The ¨security¨and a waiter has befriended me.

In 2009, Dec., I went in there with my wife, her idea not mine, she wanted to know what strip clubs in MDE are like. SHe has been with me in strip clubs in the US and in Aruba but she claims she had never been to one in Colombia until I took her to Ejecutiva.

Anyway, we enjoyed ourselves and now when I pass by I have that security guard asking me to for una lega. The other day he asked me for 2000 so he can get something to eat. He has done nothing for me but give me a ¨free¨ feel when I went in that time and the one time after in Feb. Yet he thinks I need to list him as one of my dependents.

For the waiter, he remembered me getting wasted when I was there with my wife and the two time after that ushered me to a table and served me. Then asked in a confirming tone, we are friends, will you buy me a drink. I bought him two drinks that night, Pilsen, and he did not drink one of them. It was for him to get that little more out of me. When I went back in Feb. He again said the same and I replied, ¨friend, it is your turn to buy¨.

I have not been inside the bar since Feb. And do not plan on returning but I do pass the bar most every day in El Centro and I am still hustled by that security guard.

Just to infom and to see if other, regulars or semi-regulars have the same experience.[/QUOTE]Your posts remind me of BAQ. The waiters and doorman at the 3 clubs I go to there are 10 times more bold. One doorman at Lusitania tried to block my path when I did not give him money.

Of the 3 clubs in a row in MDE El Centro I prefer Las Americas. I have never had a problem there.

[QUOTE=Caliguy 2010]Hi Guys, What is the problem with appearing Americanized. While I was in CTG I mostly wore khaki shorts and Nike polos. This worked to my advantage there because everyone knew I was not from there. I would say after about 5 sec of making eye contact the girl would ask " de donde eres". Where are you from. Just replied and smiled California USA. Girls lved that I hooked up with mor locL girls than pros and each encounter with a local gis happend that way. Why is this different in MDE. I it because of the weather?[/QUOTE]Hahaha. Well, because Cartagena is no longer Cartagena, it's now called San Jose de Cartagena.

It's all about the tourists in Cartagena.

Medellin is really much more of a normal city, except for your known street walker areas, girls just aren't going to approach you like that, and you don't need to wear shorts to be known as a gringo in those girly areas.

Sometimes it's good and beneficial to stand out as a gringo and well, sometimes it ain't.

Downtown Medellin isn't el Laguito and neither is el Central en Cali.

Crime and gang-wars are up in these cities. Low key is in.

Oh, and in their culture, away from the beach, it looks dorky.

I do have a dream though, and I think it's coming, of the streets of Medellin filled with overweight tourists in Bermuda shorts, Nikes, knee high white socks, fanny packs, and a few cameras around the shoulder heading to a Tea Party, and then in the afternoon a run to a casa to get layed. Hahaha.

Just kidding, about the dream that is.

Good luck

He asks me for propina all the time. Sometimes I give 1K peso, sometimes I do not. He and many Colombianos think that gringos are rich, so 2k peso is nothing to us. If you are annoyed, say "no". Still you will be treated the same in club. In general, I avoid being acquainted with workers in clubs and casas. There is marginal or no benefit, and cost exceeds benefit.

[QUOTE=Justafool]Anyone else have the same problem with Ejecutiva?

The ¨security¨and a waiter has befriended me.

Just to infom and to see if other, regulars or semi-regulars have the same experience.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Caliguy 2010]Hi Guys, What is the problem with appearing Americanized. While I was in CTG I mostly wore khaki shorts and Nike polos. This worked to my advantage there because everyone knew I was not from there. I would say after about 5 sec of making eye contact the girl would ask " de donde eres". Where are you from. Just replied and smiled California USA. Girls lved that I hooked up with mor locL girls than pros and each encounter with a local gis happend that way. Why is this different in MDE. I it because of the weather?[/QUOTE]Caliguy,

Very good point but I guess you have to consider how you look like in the first place. If your facial features (clearly white, brown to blonde hair and light colored eyes) obviously make you look like you a foreigner it probably does not matter and ladies might readily approach you regardless. If you look like a typical gringo and dress like a local, they might approach you thinking you are a gringo in the know (speculation). But if you don't look like a typical gringo, but would like to stand out, surfer shorts in MDE might be the way to go.

Myself, I can pass for a local in many countries (except Sweden) until I open my mouth. It is my first time in CO but I have travelled extensively elsewhere. One thing I notice is that chicas have an uncanny ability to spot mongers, just like how we can spot a pro at a mall.

[QUOTE=Ricker]Hahaha. Well, because Cartagena is no longer Cartagena, it's now called San Jose de Cartagena.

It's all about the tourists in Cartagena.

Medellin is really much more of a normal city, except for your known street walker areas, girls just aren't going to approach you like that, and you don't need to wear shorts to be known as a gringo in those girly areas.

Sometimes it's good and beneficial to stand out as a gringo and well, sometimes it ain't.

Downtown Medellin isn't el Laguito and neither is el Central en Cali.

Crime and gang-wars are up in these cities. Low key is in.

Oh, and in their culture, away from the beach, it looks dorky.

I do have a dream though, and I think it's coming, of the streets of Medellin filled with overweight tourists in Bermuda shorts, Nikes, knee high white socks, fanny packs, and a few cameras around the shoulder heading to a Tea Party, and then in the afternoon a run to a casa to get layed. Hahaha.

Just kidding, about the dream that is.

Good luck[/QUOTE]Bingo! This conversation has been done before and to death, wear whatever you want that you feel comfortable in but remember what you wear may or may not have cosequences. #1 Looking like a tourist in a tourist area has its benefits but looking like a tourist in Bello, copacabana, and castilla might not.

Me? I wear whatever the fuck I want that I feel comfortable and confident in knowing well before that good or bad things might come my way. P.S. Dress up and look GQ at night for the ladies because A) they will do the same for you and B) they will appreciate it and C) Some of the nicer places WILL NOT let any sloppy person in, especially a sloppy gringo.

Funny shit Ricker, I also agree low key is in.

When I'm in Mayorista alone I never get a table by myself. It makes me look like a Mark(target). I prefer to post up on the wall with the tricks, it gives the impression I'm the hunter not the prey. When traveling alone I never want to standout for security purposes.

As far as acting American some guys go to far.

Here's what happened my last trip in Sept:

I was getting a pizza at Dominoes in El Pablado. So I walk outside and I see this brother in white tee shirt, shorts, white socks, fake gold chains and Nikes. I strike up a conversation and find out he has been in his room with an online chick for three days. He states he is from Detroit. I give him my number and he calls me to hang that night.

We go to Sandiego (my hangout). We order a bottle of rum and homeboy pulls two chairs up to prop his legs on in the middle of the walk way. He grabs the bowl of popcorn and pours it into his mouth like a drink. He guzzles the rum and starts starring everybody down. Now I can't let him fuck up my main hangout so I say lets hit Mayorista.

At Mayorista we exit the cab and are walking the strip when out of nowhere he yells"Detoit in the motherfucking house". I pull him aside and say"your fucking up" he said"thats how we roll in Detroit". We sit to have more rum and he tells everyone he is from Detroit(who cares).

We finish the bottle of rum and go to 53. At Ejectivo I give him a pep talk that I'm not going to carry his 6'2, 220 pounds around so handle your liquor. Well we go in the club and he passes out(fuck). I'm not hopping a stange cab with this boy like this, so I call one of my trusted cab drivers Julio. Julio arrives an hour later. The night couldve ended bad but we got him home safely. The lesson is when you leave America understand your in someone elses country, adjust your strategy.

Hi Justafool,

I have been going to all those centro bars, Conejitas, Las Americas, Maracaibo and Ejecutiva, for 3-4 years. All the door men are like that and I don´t even look "gringo", just a bit like an upperty class Colombian. They ask anybody that looks like they have money. They are a pest, specially the bar tenders at Barra Ejecutiva. I finally got tired of going to those bars precisely for that reason. I will say that the "Conejita" doormen are not as bad, but the other 3 are deplorable.

You will not be harrassed at Fase ll, San Diego and Luna Lunera. They are more expensive, but the quality of girls is much better and you don´t have to put up with the asshole doormen. I complaint once to one of the managers at Maracaibo, and even to the doormen themselves, and told them that all they are doing is chasing away potential customers, but they are too stupid to understand or care. They just see a gringo, or anybody that looks like he´s well to do, like a personal Mac machine, or Public Assistance worker.

Frank Casio !

[QUOTE=Justafool]Anyone else have the same problem with Ejecutiva?

The ¨security¨and a waiter has befriended me.

In 2009, Dec., I went in there with my wife, her idea not mine, she wanted to know what strip clubs in MDE are like. SHe has been with me in strip clubs in the US and in Aruba but she claims she had never been to one in Colombia until I took her to Ejecutiva.

Anyway, we enjoyed ourselves and now when I pass by I have that security guard asking me to for una lega. The other day he asked me for 2000 so he can get something to eat. He has done nothing for me but give me a ¨free¨ feel when I went in that time and the one time after in Feb. Yet he thinks I need to list him as one of my dependents.

For the waiter, he remembered me getting wasted when I was there with my wife and the two time after that ushered me to a table and served me. Then asked in a confirming tone, we are friends, will you buy me a drink. I bought him two drinks that night, Pilsen, and he did not drink one of them. It was for him to get that little more out of me. When I went back in Feb. He again said the same and I replied, ¨friend, it is your turn to buy¨.

I have not been inside the bar since Feb. And do not plan on returning but I do pass the bar most every day in El Centro and I am still hustled by that security guard.

Just to infom and to see if other, regulars or semi-regulars have the same experience.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Justafool]Anyone else have the same problem with Ejecutiva?

The ¨security¨and a waiter has befriended me.

In 2009, Dec., I went in there with my wife, her idea not mine, she wanted to know what strip clubs in MDE are like. SHe has been with me in strip clubs in the US and in Aruba but she claims she had never been to one in Colombia until I took her to Ejecutiva.

Anyway, we enjoyed ourselves and now when I pass by I have that security guard asking me to for una lega. The other day he asked me for 2000 so he can get something to eat. He has done nothing for me but give me a ¨free¨ feel when I went in that time and the one time after in Feb. Yet he thinks I need to list him as one of my dependents.

For the waiter, he remembered me getting wasted when I was there with my wife and the two time after that ushered me to a table and served me. Then asked in a confirming tone, we are friends, will you buy me a drink. I bought him two drinks that night, Pilsen, and he did not drink one of them. It was for him to get that little more out of me. When I went back in Feb. He again said the same and I replied, ¨friend, it is your turn to buy¨.

I have not been inside the bar since Feb. And do not plan on returning but I do pass the bar most every day in El Centro and I am still hustled by that security guard.

Just to infom and to see if other, regulars or semi-regulars have the same experience.[/QUOTE]I have been traveling back and forth to Medellin for about 5 years now (Once a month) I also have a very good friend (both of us American Born Latins) that enjoy and have steady GF's in Colombia. However, we have BOTH have had this what I believe is a "Cultural" situation happen to us and we ALWAYS have our guard up against this practice of looking at us Americans as we have a money tree in our back yards and we "Owe" them something for just getting to know us. After all aren't we Americans all rich? LOL!

Example: I use to use a driver to pick me up from the airport. The LAST time I used him is when he asked me for a Bottle of Expensive Whiskey FOR free and he was serious! Then he saw me in Medellin and was confused why I didn't call him and started to ask me if I could get him a laptop. Blah blah blah. Next example: A guy I know wanted me to bring him a blackberry, I told him the cost up front and when I brought it he wanted to make payments as he didn't have the money!

This is incidents of many attempts (failed) that I have experienced. Both my buddy and I have learned our lessons and NEVER bring SHIT for anyone especially if they ask! Its unfortunate but this is the "Norm" in Medellin not the "Minority". Which includes door men, security at clubs, hookers, friends etc. Scheesh On my last trip a Airport Police Officer (that I always see) asked me to bring him also something from the states. However, getting paid is a whole another issue!

Just my opinion.

KB151

[QUOTE=Vandaddio]Is there anyone here who has experienced both places?

I love latina pussy and the sexiness of them, but also love the small asian spinners.

How does Columbia compare for price and also pussy preformance?[/QUOTE]Vandaddio,

It would good for you to know how to spell both countries. I copied and pasted the header above from your post.

So:

It's Philippines NOT Phillipines

It's Colombia Not Columbia

Anyway:

I have tried both. I like both.

Aside from bigger difference of cost and time to get to either country:

You can find pussy in the same price range in both countries.

You can also find great GFE in both countries.

Why compare? I try not to. I choose just to try as many countries as I can fit into my time allotment on this earth.

Stay Horny My Friends,

Cubanut

[QUOTE=Cubanut]Vandaddio,

It would good for you to know how to spell both countries. I copied and pasted the header above from your post.

So:

It's Philippines NOT Phillipines

It's Colombia Not Columbia

Anyway:

I have tried both. I like both.

Aside from bigger difference of cost and time to get to either country:

You can find pussy in the same price range in both countries.

You can also find great GFE in both countries.

Why compare? I try not to. I choose just to try as many countries as I can fit into my time allotment on this earth.

Stay Horny My Friends,

Cubanut[/QUOTE]I keep putting off a trip to the Far East. I find all kind off excuses to keep my Wingman off my back. It is to long of a trip, to expensive a flight, etc.
You photo does not help my case. Man I think in one trip I could bag them all. LOL

Ha! I had an encounter with the girl on the far left of the photo just a few weeks ago. She has her photo on Romance Latina and is a hustler and goes by the name of Alejita on the site. I arranged to meet her in Parque Lleras for dinner. When she appeared, with another girl, she declined dinner or going to another bar in the parque and wanted me to get in a taxi with them and go to a disco outside this area.

Needless to say, I declined. Watch out for her.

[QUOTE=Cubanut]Vandaddio,

It would good for you to know how to spell both countries. I copied and pasted the header above from your post.

So:

It's Philippines NOT Phillipines

It's Colombia Not Columbia

Anyway:

I have tried both. I like both.

Aside from bigger difference of cost and time to get to either country:

You can find pussy in the same price range in both countries.

You can also find great GFE in both countries.

Why compare? I try not to. I choose just to try as many countries as I can fit into my time allotment on this earth.

Stay Horny My Friends,

Cubanut[/QUOTE]

Does Medellin have a few mongering places that everyone goes to like Brazil, or is it a bunch of massage parlors all over the city. I am assuming they have american style strip clubs there, but are the girls for take out or take in? I have read many posts here, and still cant get a handle on where to go. Is there a Bwana Dik type guide for Medellin because I want my first time to be stress free.

Weather has been extremely shitty the past 5-6 months here in Medellin. The rainy season should be OVER but it's still here. And it's the coldest it's ever been. Anyone know why? I heard it's going to stay like this until at least March. Argh

[QUOTE=Helprules]Does Medellin have a few mongering places that everyone goes to like Brazil, or is it a bunch of massage parlors all over the city. I am assuming they have american style strip clubs there, but are the girls for take out or take in? I have read many posts here, and still cant get a handle on where to go. Is there a Bwana Dik type guide for Medellin because I want my first time to be stress free.[/QUOTE]If you want a stress free trip in Medellin, all you have to do is stay at Aussie Greg's Casa Blanca. I think as a first timer you will have least amount of hassle and the company of many other mongers who will be able to help you.

If you want further info on Casa Blanca they have a separate forum in Colombia section.

Regards,

John.

"dress up and look gq at night for the ladies because a) they will do the same for you and b) they will appreciate it"

i struggle a bit with the dress code, at heart i'm a velcro sneaker bluejean monger. but since i've decided to pay the extra fee for a carry-on, i might as well carry on some nice clothes. the difference between black slacks, or even black jeans, and some nice slip-on black shoes, and my velcro sneakers, is a lot from an appearance point of view, but very little extra trouble for me. so that's the way i'm going from now on. i think my brother american travelers should consider it also, add to the ambience and not detract.

chesrep001

[QUOTE=Chronoshift]Weather has been extremely shitty the past 5-6 months here in Medellin. The rainy season should be OVER but it's still here. And it's the coldest it's ever been. Anyone know why? I heard it's going to stay like this until at least March. Argh[/QUOTE]Natural thing called "La nina" in the ocean. Google it, search for it.

The summer is "over" this year in Medellin, expect all the remaining months, and like you said until next March to be ....rainy !

[QUOTE=Helprules]Does Medellin have a few mongering places that everyone goes to like Brazil, or is it a bunch of massage parlors all over the city. I am assuming they have american style strip clubs there, but are the girls for take out or take in? I have read many posts here, and still cant get a handle on where to go. Is there a Bwana Dik type guide for Medellin because I want my first time to be stress free.[/QUOTE]I was in the same boat once. Start with World traveller's list in the "Medellin lists" sub-forum and cross reference that with one of the map links he posted. I am not expert (just trying to be helpful) but my impression, after doing what I suggested you do, is that the venues are spread out but manageable with taxis and metro.

[QUOTE=Kickboxer151]This is incidents of many attempts (failed) that I have experienced. Both my buddy and I have learned our lessons and NEVER bring SHIT for anyone especially if they ask! Its unfortunate but this is the "Norm" in Medellin not the "Minority". Which includes door men, security at clubs, hookers, friends etc. Scheesh On my last trip a Airport Police Officer (that I always see) asked me to bring him also something from the states. However, getting paid is a whole another issue![/QUOTE]This is generally true. Sometimes, small gifts or small amounts of cash can be useful in keeping some helpful, competent people in your orbit, but you'll need a good sense of which people are the humble/helpful types and which are the ones that talk a lot of crap but hardly ever deliver.

And keep the gifts/cash outlays small as bigger amounts will NOT guarantee loyalty or better service or friendship or whatever; if anything, just the opposite, it tempts people to try to get/scam even more from you!

Here's a few things to keep in mind when dealing with people asking for tips, gifts, favors:

1) The problem with being a generous nice guy in this country is that people will disappoint you or flake out on you sooner or later.

2) This is a very two-faced yet polite culture. Flat-out denials and refusals are usually not done here. So you might get static from people if the first word out of your mouth is NO! :) There's a whole passive-aggressive shtick involved when turning requests down.

So keep in mind saying no to people in their face or calling them directly on their bs will do you no favors here. It's not like they're ever going to admit that a gringo is right, so don't waste your time and energy.

3) But it also works the other way in your favor! They will almost never challenge you directly to your face so you can get away with all kinds of half-assed excuses as to why you can't tip them right now, or buy whatever it is they want you to buy. Use their bs stories on THEM before they use them on you!

I remember the nonsense started right from the very first night out in Colombia. I was in some club in Cali, and I remember holding on to the expensive bottle of rum that was ordered because I already sensed the other half of the group was going to flake on paying their fair share. They soon left in a huff, although they did grab a bottle of the cheaper aguardiente before they went off.

Just take it all in stride; try to treat it like a fun game. It can actually be entertaining when you see them realize you're not going to stand for their nonsense, and usually no harsh words or scene is necessary. On the contrary, that's bound to make the situation worse, and actually make your position weaker. Don't be afraid to call their bluff, but do it tactfully to control the situation.

Weather Report !!!!!!! Dona Marina !!!

2 sunny seasons in Medellin, Jan Feb and March, also July Aug and Sept.

2 rainy seasons in Medellin, April, May and June, Oct November and Dec.

Both seasons can overlap by months or can miss out altogether. I am asked repeatedly by guests what is the weather going to be, now Im like the Colombians, I just shrug my shoulders.

Aussie Greg.

[QUOTE=Chronoshift]Weather has been extremely shitty the past 5-6 months here in Medellin. The rainy season should be OVER but it's still here. And it's the coldest it's ever been. Anyone know why? I heard it's going to stay like this until at least March. Argh[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tomasb]Ha! I had an encounter with the girl on the far left of the photo just a few weeks ago. She has her photo on Romance Latina and is a hustler and goes by the name of Alejita on the site. I arranged to meet her in Parque Lleras for dinner. When she appeared, with another girl, she declined dinner or going to another bar in the parque and wanted me to get in a taxi with them and go to a disco outside this area.

Needless to say, I declined. Watch out for her.[/QUOTE]Tomasb,

Alejita (aka Alejandra) is one of the sweetest girls you can get with. She's a Casa Blanca regular. She, as well as many other Casa Blanca girls, can be found on RL. Not sure what you feel she was hustling you about though.

The best discos in Poblado are not in Parque Lleras. So I would say if you had wanted to party, then you missed out by not joining them. Different situation of course if you just wanted to eat.

Still, you were there and I wasn't, so it is your opinion that she should be one "to watch out for". I'd say the same thing to others but for a different reason.

Cheers,

Cubanut

[quote=helprules]does medellin have a few mongering places that everyone goes to like brazil, or is it a bunch of massage parlors all over the city. i am assuming they have american style strip clubs there, but are the girls for take out or take in? i have read many posts here, and still cant get a handle on where to go. is there a bwana dik type guide for medellin because i want my first time to be stress free.[/quote]you will find all of the answers by reading the forum, but i know it's big so i'll try to help out: there isn't one single red light district for medellin, rather different things are offered in different parts of the town.

el centro has a number of strip clubs as well as most of the lower priced massage parlors (and a few upscale ones). it also has a small street walker area, but not that's for the feint of heart. the massage parlors offer the cheapest prices for sex but aren't everyone's cup of tea. they are also rep001tered and one needs a map (rtf). the centro strip clubs are cheaper and skankier than some others, but there are diamonds to be had. fs is always available. mostly it's done on site, but take out can be arranged.

mayorista is the place most foreign mongers go for sws. it is relatively safe with a large diversity of girls from 1's to 9's. prices are low, there are no strip clubs, but you can hang out at a street table having a beer and watching the talent go by. frank casio is the mayorista expert on this board.

in other parts of town you will find some upscale (and expensive) establishments like the strip club fase dos and the massage parlor loutron's. it all depends on what you like. some mongers find their girls through web sites like romancelatina, others through drivers or apartment owners. from what i can tell, there isn't much of an outcall escort scene. girlfriend for a week would be the expensive exception to this rule.

for a first time visitor who wants to try a bit of everything i highly recommend staying at casa blanca i or ii (formerly medellin mansion). a select group of girls hangs out there and are available, but more importantly the staff, guests and owners will hook you up with whatever you need from tours of the massage parlors to calls for specific girls. i hate to promote it (because it's overbooked as things are and i can never get in), but unless you know exactly what you want it is the best place to start, and pretty much the only place (except maybe frank's) if you don't speak spanish.

hope this helps.

[QUOTE=Tomasb]Ha! I had an encounter with the girl on the far left of the photo just a few weeks ago. She has her photo on Romance Latina and is a hustler and goes by the name of Alejita on the site. I arranged to meet her in Parque Lleras for dinner. When she appeared, with another girl, she declined dinner or going to another bar in the parque and wanted me to get in a taxi with them and go to a disco outside this area.

Needless to say, I declined. Watch out for her.[/QUOTE]What are you getting at? That is a photo of Mansion chicas (prepagos). Most of them are on RL too.. and RL has a lot of prepagos. You should be glad she doesn't want to go to overprices Parque Lleras for dinner. You didn't think she was a regular girl did you?

[QUOTE=Justafool]Anyone else have the same problem with Ejecutiva?

The ¨security¨and a waiter has befriended me.[/QUOTE]My first trip they did that too. And stupidly I tipped them. After that I got smart. I see them all the time and just ignored them, eventually they stopped bothering me. I still tip them 1k for getting me a beer but that's about it.

Cubanut. Great pictures as usual!

Man I miss SEA. I'm spending a lot of time in Lima now but I still miss the PI and LOS. I need to get back there, maybe in January when the Thai weather is better.

One thing I like about AC better than MDE though is the pricing "structure". TLN usually for 1300 pesos (or a bit more if you take one of the "top tier" girls) I also like the dance shows where they actually are pretty well choreographed. A lot different then the typical Isaan shuffle in Pattaya.

Reef

[QUOTE=Cubanut]:

I have tried both. I like both.

Aside from bigger difference of cost and time to get to either country:

You can find pussy in the same price range in both countries.

You can also find great GFE in both countries.

Why compare? I try not to. I choose just to try as many countries as I can fit into my time allotment on this earth.

Stay Horny My Friends,

Cubanut[/QUOTE]

Walking up to the 24 hour internet to print documents for my family, again that one security guard from Executiva shot my hand and pulled me close and asked for 2000. I pulled my hand back and continued on. He does not get it, unless he does something more than feel me up before I enter he does not deserve the tip/lega. Sorry to hear you have the samy problems but it is good to know I am not the only Gringo they molest.

Anyway, this trip Club Maracabo was a lot better in quality, so I stuck with them. No hustle other than the girls and they are entitled to a bit as that is why I am there.

[QUOTE=Hioctane]My first trip they did that too. And stupidly I tipped them. After that I got smart. I see them all the time and just ignored them, eventually they stopped bothering me. I still tip them 1k for getting me a beer but that's about it.[/QUOTE]

And it is my last night, do you think I can get a number tonight. Wow, what eyes. Can someone call her and tell her to visit Mike at Hotel Bella Villa.

[QUOTE=Cubanut]Tomasb,

Alejita (aka Alejandra) is one of the sweetest girls you can get with. She's a Casa Blanca regular. She, as well as many other Casa Blanca girls, can be found on RL. Not sure what you feel she was hustling you about though.

The best discos in Poblado are not in Parque Lleras. So I would say if you had wanted to party, then you missed out by not joining them. Different situation of course if you just wanted to eat.

Still, you were there and I wasn't, so it is your opinion that she should be one "to watch out for". I'd say the same thing to others but for a different reason.

Cheers,

Cubanut[/QUOTE]

I know that businesses in Colombia value every $ and I posted these experiences for anyone who might know the owners to let them know they are losing business because of this.

Las Americas I have not spent too much time in because the girls walking in and out to smoke did not look very good.

Club Maracaibo has been good to me so far. The last time I was there I was twirling an empty beer bottle and the waiters did not notice. A dancer came over and asked if I need a drink. When she brought me the drink I offered her a Bailey's, knowing that is where they make good money on their return. Then of course came another drink and another Bailey's but I feel she deserved it because she was doing the others job.

I have not hit up those other clubs (I have a friend who works at Luxury at Barrio Colombia and he invites me but still have not gone there). I usually stay around her as this is where my hotel is. I have my wife in my room (repairing shit while waiting on visas) until about 11 so she can watch her novelas oops sorry serials and then when the beauties are with me we usually stay out late until the malls close. Movie, dinner, yesterday was Divercity. Great place to take the kids to the kids of one you might be interested.

[QUOTE=Frank Casio]Hi Justafool,

I have been going to all those centro bars, Conejitas, Las Americas, Maracaibo and Ejecutiva, for 3-4 years. All the door men are like that and I don't even look "gringo", just a bit like an upperty class Colombian. They ask anybody that looks like they have money. They are a pest, specially the bar tenders at Barra Ejecutiva. I finally got tired of going to those bars precisely for that reason. I will say that the "Conejita" doormen are not as bad, but the other 3 are deplorable.

You will not be harrassed at Fase ll, San Diego and Luna Lunera. They are more expensive, but the quality of girls is much better and you don't have to put up with the asshole doormen. I complaint once to one of the managers at Maracaibo, and even to the doormen themselves, and told them that all they are doing is chasing away potential customers, but they are too stupid to understand or care. They just see a gringo, or anybody that looks like he's well to do, like a personal Mac machine, or Public Assistance worker.

Frank Casio![/QUOTE]

I bought an IPhone for the friend I mentioned in another post and he did pay me. I did bring him a Dr. Someone shampoo but never got paid but that $8 is a gift so no biggie.

I do not usually bring for many because usually my bags are over weight with stuff for the children and the duty free is for the wife, perfume and drink. I did bring Sausa for the maintance guy at Bella Villa as a gift because he bought me a couple of beers at the bar next to the hotel on my last visit.

Other than that I am thankful only to have been harrassed at Ejecutiva.

That story about the time I went there with my wife. My wife got me drunk and I could not remember getting back to the hotel. This trip she told me the taxi from Executiva helped her get me home. I cannot remember taking a taxi just that short distance but it was the dancer in the yellow taxi costume who my wife paid to give me a private dance (will not get into my silliness). That is a nice girl and I was shocked to hear one of these dancers went out of their way to help my little wife with this 300 lb behemith.

If anyone knows this GREAT body from that time who dressed a taxi outfit, let me know, I would love to thank her (Liga) on my next trip. I do not remember her face but I think I can remember how fine her body was in that taxi suit.

[QUOTE=Kickboxer151]I have been traveling back and forth to Medellin for about 5 years now (Once a month) I also have a very good friend (both of us American Born Latins) that enjoy and have steady GF's in Colombia. However, we have BOTH have had this what I believe is a "Cultural" situation happen to us and we ALWAYS have our guard up against this practice of looking at us Americans as we have a money tree in our back yards and we "Owe" them something for just getting to know us. After all aren't we Americans all rich? LOL!

Example: I use to use a driver to pick me up from the airport. The LAST time I used him is when he asked me for a Bottle of Expensive Whiskey FOR free and he was serious! Then he saw me in Medellin and was confused why I didn't call him and started to ask me if I could get him a laptop. Blah blah blah. Next example: A guy I know wanted me to bring him a blackberry, I told him the cost up front and when I brought it he wanted to make payments as he didn't have the money!

This is incidents of many attempts (failed) that I have experienced. Both my buddy and I have learned our lessons and NEVER bring SHIT for anyone especially if they ask! Its unfortunate but this is the "Norm" in Medellin not the "Minority". Which includes door men, security at clubs, hookers, friends etc. Scheesh On my last trip a Airport Police Officer (that I always see) asked me to bring him also something from the states. However, getting paid is a whole another issue!

Just my opinion.

KB151[/QUOTE]

This is what I am looking for: I don't do street walkers. I'm not looking for the Tijuana street scene, if thats what Mayorista is. I want a place I can go where they are wearing bikinis, so I can see their bodies. I would like to hook up at that place, and then get their number for later. Since they don't have termas in Colombia, I'm assuming I will have to go the strip club route, but I want it to be inexpensive. Do the strip clubs have 100's of girls which keeps the prices down? Is there a bar fine to take the girl out of the strip club?

No. I didn't think she was a regular girl by her appearance in the RL ad or when I saw her in person. She even has a video on RL. However, I did not know that she was a Mansion chica either as I saw this photo with her on ISG only a few days ago, which was several weeks after we met.

For what it is worth, she did not want to go to my hotel nearby, nor any other restaurant or bar in the Parque Lleras area. Instead, she wanted me to go with her (and her gordita friend) to a disco in an area in MDE I had never heard of. Since we had not even had the opportunity to chat in person and she and her friend were not interested in conversation, I did not think that was a prudent idea. They seemed all business and in the worst possible way.

Maybe I am wrong, but I thought at the time I was being setup. Anyway, how do we know every girl in these photos are cool or are still in the Mansion portfolio, so to speak?

[QUOTE=Hioctane]What are you getting at? That is a photo of Mansion chicas (prepagos). Most of them are on RL too.. and RL has a lot of prepagos. You should be glad she doesn't want to go to overprices Parque Lleras for dinner. You didn't think she was a regular girl did you?[/QUOTE]

I just wrote to another guy about this girl. So it's possible that I was wrong but she and her friend just did not seem very friendly. Needless to say, I knew nothing about the girl at the time and was just going by first impressions, which were not good. At the very least, I wanted to chat with her for a bit or get some food before climbing into a taxi to god knows where.common sense. Right? I invited her to a nearby bar where I had been waiting for her so I could finish my beer. She nixed that idea.

Maybe she and her friend don't like the PL area and perhaps being identified as prepagos but at the time, I did not know what to think. This was my first time in MDE so perhaps I erred on the side of caution.

[QUOTE=Cubanut]Tomasb,

Alejita (aka Alejandra) is one of the sweetest girls you can get with. She's a Casa Blanca regular. She, as well as many other Casa Blanca girls, can be found on RL. Not sure what you feel she was hustling you about though.

The best discos in Poblado are not in Parque Lleras. So I would say if you had wanted to party, then you missed out by not joining them. Different situation of course if you just wanted to eat.

Still, you were there and I wasn't, so it is your opinion that she should be one "to watch out for". I'd say the same thing to others but for a different reason.

Cheers,

Cubanut[/QUOTE]

Does the high end strip club your talking about go for about 80 a girl. That's not bad, if the girls are all 9's and 10's. After what I spent in brazil last trip, that is not expensive at all. Also, I'm assuming the girls are cleaner and more gfe. Are there at least 3 high end strip clubs that I can go back and forth for the week. I really want as close to the terma experience as i can get. Colombian women are so attractive. The thought of going to a strip club there, and getting the hottest colombia has to offer for 80 seems like a good deal to me.

The "real Amazona"

Just flown from Medellin to Quit "LAN" checked out my paisa girlfriends working at the Dollhouse and Extasis clubs in Quito, drove to Coca (on Rio Napo 6 hours from Quito) and travelled down the river on a fast boat (Paisa girlfriend and I)from Coca to Nuevo Rocafuerte, Parque Yasuni, swam with the fresh water dolphins, then two more nights camping on the river until Mazan (15 minutes crossing by motorbike from the Rio Napo to the Rio Amazona, then 40 minutes in a fast boat to Iquitos, Peru.

Had a couple of days in Iquitos then another fast boat to Leticia/Tabatinga/Santa Rosa, the southern most part of Colombia on the Rio Amazona.

If anybody would like more info, just ask, I am heading again to do this trip later in the year, anybody intertested, let me know.

Aussie Greg

[QUOTE=Helprules]Does the high end strip club your talking about go for about 80 a girl. That's not bad, if the girls are all 9's and 10's. After what I spent in brazil last trip, that is not expensive at all. Also, I'm assuming the girls are cleaner and more gfe. Are there at least 3 high end strip clubs that I can go back and forth for the week. I really want as close to the terma experience as i can get. Colombian women are so attractive. The thought of going to a strip club there, and getting the hottest colombia has to offer for 80 seems like a good deal to me.[/QUOTE]Medellin definitely has lots of fun to offer, but if you're comparing it to a Brazil terma experience, you'l probably be disapointed.

Face Dos, the only high end strip club except maybe San Diego, is like a hustling US type strip club, except for the nice cabines they have for private fun with a chica.
GFE, well that depends on you, the chica, your spanish skills and the chemistry.
It's fun but it sure ain't Brazil lovin at Face Dos.

Good luck

[QUOTE=Tomasb]Ha! I had an encounter with the girl on the far left of the photo just a few weeks ago. She has her photo on Romance Latina and is a hustler and goes by the name of Alejita on the site. I arranged to meet her in Parque Lleras for dinner. When she appeared, with another girl, she declined dinner or going to another bar in the parque and wanted me to get in a taxi with them and go to a disco outside this area.

Needless to say, I declined. Watch out for her.[/QUOTE]I saw Alejandra when I was in Medellin June and July of this year. The first time we were together she stayed overnight and is very nice to be with and she was even nicer the next morning when I returned to bed after my morning shower. I plan to see her again in October. I was surprised how tall she is.

Well actually.. You probably did the right thing and erred on the side of caution.. They probably don't want to stay in PL for the prepago stigma. Don't go with a chica to a place you don't know! Only go if you know the area. Even then be vary careful.. That gordita friend is probably her sister. They are pretty well known. I would go just to party with them. LOL.

[QUOTE=Tomasb]No. I didn't think she was a regular girl by her appearance in the RL ad or when I saw her in person. She even has a video on RL. However, I did not know that she was a Mansion chica either as I saw this photo with her on ISG only a few days ago, which was several weeks after we met.

For what it is worth, she did not want to go to my hotel nearby, nor any other restaurant or bar in the Parque Lleras area. Instead, she wanted me to go with her (and her gordita friend) to a disco in an area in MDE I had never heard of. Since we had not even had the opportunity to chat in person and she and her friend were not interested in conversation, I did not think that was a prudent idea. They seemed all business and in the worst possible way.

Maybe I am wrong, but I thought at the time I was being setup. Anyway, how do we know every girl in these photos are cool or are still in the Mansion portfolio, so to speak?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Helprules] ... Do the strip clubs have 100's of girls which keeps the prices down? Is there a bar fine to take the girl out of the strip club?[/QUOTE]Basically the answers are NO and YES.

In Colombia $80 US for a chica for an hour isn't really cheap, and the bars do charge a multa to take them out, of course you can wait til closing time to avoid it or get their contact info a private hook-up.

[QUOTE=Cubanut]Tomasb,

Alejita (aka Alejandra) is one of the sweetest girls you can get with. She's a Casa Blanca regular. She, as well as many other Casa Blanca girls, can be found on RL. Not sure what you feel she was hustling you about though.[/QUOTE]I know Aleja too, and yes she can be sweet but she has a couple sides to her.

You've got a rapport with these Mansion chicas, Cuba.

You're friends with the owners, the chicas know you and your good rep with the other chicas, they feel comfortable with you.

I'm sure you get the sweet Aleja.

She's by no means a bad person but I've seen her act cold and detached with some guys too.

I've over-heard her conversations with other chicas talking about guys before she knew I spoke the lingo.

My last trip to Medellin, Robert and I even talked about her a bit and this very thing.

She's a beautiful girl and if she digs you, you can have a blast, but I can see where this other guy felt a bad vibe about her, and I agree with his decision to ditch her.

Your intuition is usually correct and I almost always go with my gut feeling too.

[QUOTE=Phunluv]Just take it all in stride; try to treat it like a fun game. It can actually be entertaining when you see them realize you're not going to stand for their nonsense, and usually no harsh words or scene is necessary. On the contrary, that's bound to make the situation worse, and actually make your position weaker. Don't be afraid to call their bluff, but do it tactfully to control the situation.[/QUOTE]Excellent post here.

These guys posting about doorman or security asking for tips at an el Central strip club.

Big deal, it's normal, it's the culture, it happens about everywhere you go outside the ritzy areas in Colombia.

From doorman, waiters, bartenders, etc asking for tips, to Mayorista chicas begging for shots of rum or food, to pre-pagos whining for taxi money, etc, etc.

It's normal.

It's how you handle it is all.

Phunluv's post is right on IMO.

[QUOTE=Ricker]In Colombia $80 US for a chica for an hour isn't really cheap[/QUOTE]$80 for one hour?

WTF!

Most Asia mogers couldn't even sleep anymore if they would read that.

Two other things I did not mention about my encounter with Aleja. Once we met that evening and she figured out that I spoke some spanish, she got on her cell phone and walked away from me a good distance to talk to someone. This is when I got suspicious about her motives.

Also, we were originally supposed to meet for dinner the night before but she cancelled at last minute while I was already at the restaurant. Her excuse was she had a sick child at the hospital. Where have I heard that before (LOL)?

After all this, I finally decided that she was not worth pursuing any further. Let's see the potential prospects for the evening: Go to a disco you know nothing about, get ripped off with a cover charge for her and her friend and/or sister, overpay for drinks for everyone, hope someone does not slip you a mickey, yada, yada, yada.

PS: Thanks for all the comments/advice.

[QUOTE=Ricker]I know Aleja too, and yes she can be sweet but she has a couple sides to her.

You've got a rapport with these Mansion chicas, Cuba.

You're friends with the owners, the chicas know you and your good rep with the other chicas, they feel comfortable with you.

I'm sure you get the sweet Aleja.

She's by no means a bad person but I've seen her act cold and detached with some guys too.

I've over-heard her conversations with other chicas talking about guys before she knew I spoke the lingo.

My last trip to Medellin, Robert and I even talked about her a bit and this very thing.

She's a beautiful girl and if she digs you, you can have a blast, but I can see where this other guy felt a bad vibe about her, and I agree with his decision to ditch her.

Your intuition is usually correct and I almost always go with my gut feeling too.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Cubanut]Tomasb,

Alejita (aka Alejandra) is one of the sweetest girls you can get with. She's a Casa Blanca regular. She, as well as many other Casa Blanca girls, can be found on RL. Not sure what you feel she was hustling you about though.

The best discos in Poblado are not in Parque Lleras. So I would say if you had wanted to party, then you missed out by not joining them. Different situation of course if you just wanted to eat.

Still, you were there and I wasn't, so it is your opinion that she should be one "to watch out for". I'd say the same thing to others but for a different reason.

Cheers,

Cubanut[/QUOTE]Lot has been said about Alexjandar. My assesment, an extremly moody chica that when she is and and in the mood, is one an amazing fuck. Actaully a pretty sweet girl when she is centered and feeling ok. Had a near magial four leche night with her one night, and two nights later, she was moody and grouchy. That said, even on a bad night she gave me a BBBJ with attention to every (yes, every) inch of my body for nearlly two hours, non stop. Mad skills, and worth the price of admission, but keep her moderatly fed (she can eat a lot and then become full and cranky), and only moderatly liquired up....As cute as she is in pictures, far better looking in person, and naked? Forget about it!

[QUOTE=Tomasb]Two other things I did not mention about my encounter with Aleja. Once we met that evening and she figured out that I spoke some spanish, she got on her cell phone and walked away from me a good distance to talk to someone. This is when I got suspicious about her motives.

Also, we were originally supposed to meet for dinner the night before but she cancelled at last minute while I was already at the restaurant. Her excuse was she had a sick child at the hospital. Where have I heard that before (LOL)?

After all this, I finally decided that she was not worth pursuing any further. Let's see the potential prospects for the evening: Go to a disco you know nothing about, get ripped off with a cover charge for her and her friend and/or sister, overpay for drinks for everyone, hope someone does not slip you a mickey, yada, yada, yada.

PS: Thanks for all the comments/advice.[/QUOTE]The walking away part is common practice amongst all prepagos and even some "novias" of the fellas on here lol. Nothing really to get suspicious about, remember these girls are not girlfriends but some already hardened putas. Thats not to say that you can't get a nice GFE out of it but take it for what it is.

The sick baby at the hospital is just a small fraction of the outrageous excuses you will receive there. The funny part is that we are suppose to believe them lol. Colombianas are probably the most flaky of all the latinas I have come across in my lifetime. Again, she probably got a better offer. They are always looking for the next best thing around the corner.

The part about going to another bar might be beneficial to you though buddy considering Parque Lleras prices are similar to those of South Beach. If she wanted to take you someplace more humble like la 33 or la 70, fantastic you'll save a fortune.. Mangos or Las Palmas?? You're in for it but good $$$$ lol.

Good Luck!

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Here is a tastefull video i posted in the "Mr Gogo in the DR" section of the DR board. It's a couple Colombian girls in the video with music added by Gogo.

Enjoy

Interesting subthread on Alejita, who I haven't met or done but maybe next trip, she does look good.

I do know it can be hard to get a read these Paisa prepagos based on how you might expect say an american girl who liked you to act on a date or meeting, the Paisas are often very quiet and reserved..but I've found that doesn't necessarily mean they dislike you at all, it just seems to be a common Paisa personality thing. As far as the romancelatina or mansion chicas, once I have gotten with them behind the closed door in my experience so far I've seldom been disappointed whether the girl was outgoing with me beforehand or not.

[QUOTE=Tomasb]Two other things I did not mention about my encounter with Aleja. Once we met that evening and she figured out that I spoke some spanish, she got on her cell phone and walked away from me a good distance to talk to someone. This is when I got suspicious about her motives.

Also, we were originally supposed to meet for dinner the night before but she cancelled at last minute while I was already at the restaurant. Her excuse was she had a sick child at the hospital. Where have I heard that before (LOL)?

After all this, I finally decided that she was not worth pursuing any further. Let's see the potential prospects for the evening: Go to a disco you know nothing about, get ripped off with a cover charge for her and her friend and/or sister, overpay for drinks for everyone, hope someone does not slip you a mickey, yada, yada, yada.

PS: Thanks for all the comments/advice.[/QUOTE]Tomasb,

You went with your gut instinct and no one can knock you for that.

I have no idea what the "secret" cell phone call would have been about but I would be willing to guess.

Aleja and many of the other Casa Blanca girls party together. It could be that she was trying to hook up with the other girls who had dates from the Casa Blanca 1 & 2.

I can't tell you how many times I've seen the girls hook up and go party with their TLN's. It is a lot of fun. I have had some wild times with the groups.

Grant it that depending on where you go can mean paying for entry fees, drinks, etc. But one thing I would say is someone dropping a Mickey is one thing I have heard very, very little about (if ever)from the Medellin Mongering Brotherhood. This is NOT Rio (where it was becoming common).

Anyway, you are a strong willed man to stay away from such a beauty as Aleja.

Cheers,

Cubanut

PS. It's funny but I was just thinking of how many ex-Costa Rica going Mongers saw that the best looking chicas in CR were from Colombia. So much so that they decided to come to the source ie. Medellin.

With that in mind I wonder if some of the best looking girls on Romance Latina are also Casa Blanca girls. If that is the case then it's yet another reason why so mongers stay at Casa Blanca 1 & 2. They once again are cumming to the source.

Cheers,

Cubanut

I'm back in the states now after being in MDE for 10 days for the first time. All in all it was a good trip, lots of girls for a great price. Casas are great, girls for $16 for a half hour. Mayorista picked up a lot and there were some definite hot ones there. I did porn star my last night, she was crazy, in a good way. Weather did suck though, rained every day, and there's of course no beach, something I like to have on my vacations. If my friend wasn't there with me on this trip I would have been bored to tears. I speak Spanish so it's not like I can't communicate with the women and spend time with them to fill up my down time, it's just that I don't want to spend my days hanging out with *****s. I bang them and that's it. Women in Parque Lleras are unbelievably hot and very difficult to get in their pants. I might as well be trying to get girls in Manhattan. Food was overall bad. Those eateries in Mayorista were disgusting and gave me diarrhea the whole trip. Food is simply low quality garbage. Low grade meat, probably refrigerated in 60 degree temperature. Eat at Basilica in Parque Lleras, great food there.

Another thing I didn't like about MDE is that casas are in one area for banging in the day, Mayorista is in another area for banging at night, parque lleras is in another area for good food. Overall just a lot of unneeded traveling.

For my next trip I would like cheap pussy, good food, hotels for $20-$30/night, and beach all within walking distance. Any recommendations? I heard Sosua, DR is good, might try that. I've been to Boca Chica DR 5 times and am tired of that place. Beach is one big bath tub which I don't like, I like waves, and girls are okay but nothing great and still charge $30-$35.

[QUOTE=Cubanut]I have no idea what the "secret" cell phone call would have been about but I would be willing to guess.

Aleja and many of the other Casa Blanca girls party together. It could be that she was trying to hook up with the other girls who had dates from the Casa Blanca 1 & 2 ...

Cubanut[/QUOTE]Or maybe she was calling her stock broker, hahaha, or hmmmm, maybe her novio or maybe another client, or maybe her family.

Whatever.

Sometimes it's best to meet and play with these type chicas at the source first, the Mansion, where it's a more easy going, controlled environment.

Then once you get to know them a bit, and them getting to know and trust you a bit, going out partying is much more relaxed.

Remember, these popular chicas like her, after a while, just see another new guy as just a client.

We all know that once they've been in the biz a bit, it all becomes repetetive for them. You're just another guy who wants their chochita.

Once they get to know you, and if they dig you as a person a bit, they'll usually treat ya with more respect.

We all know this. Basic mongering 101

All girls from Colombia are *****s, its just a matter of how much !!!

As for Aleja, shes got a colombian boyfriend that lets her work and yes she does have a baby but hey, good excuse, itsbetter than my mother has just had a heart attack !!

Aussie Greg

[QUOTE=Cubanut]Tomasb,

You went with your gut instinct and no one can knock you for that.

I have no idea what the "secret" cell phone call would have been about but I would be willing to guess.

Aleja and many of the other Casa Blanca girls party together. It could be that she was trying to hook up with the other girls who had dates from the Casa Blanca 1 & 2.

I can't tell you how many times I've seen the girls hook up and go party with their TLN's. It is a lot of fun. I have had some wild times with the groups.

Grant it that depending on where you go can mean paying for entry fees, drinks, etc. But one thing I would say is someone dropping a Mickey is one thing I have heard very, very little about (if ever)from the Medellin Mongering Brotherhood. This is NOT Rio (where it was becoming common).

Anyway, you are a strong willed man to stay away from such a beauty as Aleja.

Cheers,

Cubanut

PS. It's funny but I was just thinking of how many ex-Costa Rica going Mongers saw that the best looking chicas in CR were from Colombia. So much so that they decided to come to the source ie. Medellin.

With that in mind I wonder if some of the best looking girls on Romance Latina are also Casa Blanca girls. If that is the case then it's yet another reason why so mongers stay at Casa Blanca 1 & 2. They once again are cumming to the source.

Cheers,

Cubanut[/QUOTE]

Cubanut, your posts are the main reason I am staying at Casa Blanca for 5 days starting on October 1st. I have read the forum extensively but I do not still have a good sense of how to book a girl at CB. Do I tell the staff or do bunch of horny guys wait in the lounge to see who shows up and clamor for their attention?
If I want to book Alexandra on October 2nd, how do I do that? Do CB staff take booking requests before you show up?

BTW, Fantastic pictures. All your pics rock. After seeing your pics, I am tempted to travel with my good SLR which I usually do for my non mongering trips.

Vitrea.

[QUOTE=Cubanut]Tomasb,

You went with your gut instinct and no one can knock you for that.

I have no idea what the "secret" cell phone call would have been about but I would be willing to guess.

Aleja and many of the other Casa Blanca girls party together. It could be that she was trying to hook up with the other girls who had dates from the Casa Blanca 1 & 2.

I can't tell you how many times I've seen the girls hook up and go party with their TLN's. It is a lot of fun. I have had some wild times with the groups.

Grant it that depending on where you go can mean paying for entry fees, drinks, etc. But one thing I would say is someone dropping a Mickey is one thing I have heard very, very little about (if ever)from the Medellin Mongering Brotherhood. This is NOT Rio (where it was becoming common).

Anyway, you are a strong willed man to stay away from such a beauty as Aleja.

Cheers,

Cubanut

PS. It's funny but I was just thinking of how many ex-Costa Rica going Mongers saw that the best looking chicas in CR were from Colombia. So much so that they decided to come to the source ie. Medellin.

With that in mind I wonder if some of the best looking girls on Romance Latina are also Casa Blanca girls. If that is the case then it's yet another reason why so mongers stay at Casa Blanca 1 & 2. They once again are cumming to the source.

Cheers,

Cubanut[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vitrea]Cubanut, your posts are the main reason I am staying at Casa Blanca for 5 days starting on October 1st. I have read the forum extensively but I do not still have a good sense of how to book a girl at CB. Do I tell the staff or do bunch of horny guys wait in the lounge to see who shows up and clamor for their attention?
If I want to book Alexandra on October 2nd, how do I do that? Do CB staff take booking requests before you show up?

BTW, Fantastic pictures. All your pics rock. After seeing your pics, I am tempted to travel with my good SLR which I usually do for my non mongering trips.

Vitrea.[/QUOTE]Amigo, of course you can book a chica beforehand, but do yourself a favor and just wait til you get there and check out the scene.

This chica is not the end all, be all chica that you just must have.

Mingle a bit, see who you jive with.

One thing Medellin has is plenty of available chicas.

Check out the Mansion chicas when you arrive, or make a run out to Face Dos, San Diego, el Central.

IMO, always best to chat it up with a chica before diving in.

I'd take a sweet 7 or definitely an 8 in my eyes over a cold 9.

However, if you just need to be with this chica, go ahead and contact Marcy from the Mansion.

I believe she's now the head Mamacita in charge of all that.

Disfrutelo

[QUOTE=Vitrea] . . .
If I want to book Alexandra on October 2nd, how do I do that? Do CB staff take booking requests before you show up? . . .Vitrea.[/QUOTE]I haven't been back to the Mansion for a little while but if you are convinced that you want this girl, just go ask Marcy to call her and set up an appointment for her to visit with you. I would then suggest that you work out the details on what is expected of her in bed and her compensation. Greg or Robert should be able to help get in touch with Alexandra as well.

As far as I know the days when lots of chicas just show up to find 'work' and just hang out poolside at the Mansion are over. Appointments need to scheduled nowadays. There is also a 'catalog' of chicas on the public computer plus I think there is still a photo album of available chicas.

I respect most everyone's opinion, even if I disagree, so I mean no disrepect when I say that I love the food in La Mayorista. I would actually travel there from say El Castillo or Parque Lleras to eat. Especially breakfast. No matter how well you know the language, as a foreigner it's difficult to get what you thought you ordered for breakfast. But I managed to get sort of a Yucca soup, as an appetizer. I love yucca! And then on from there with the normal Bandeja Paisa. The restaurant with the metal seats outside I love. So different strokes, I suppose. But I haven't found better food than they serve there.

[QUOTE=Almotu]I haven't been back to the Mansion for a little while but if you are convinced that you want this girl, just go ask Marcy to call her and set up an appointment for her to visit with you. I would then suggest that you work out the details on what is expected of her in bed and her compensation. Greg or Robert should be able to help get in touch with Alexandra as well.

As far as I know the days when lots of chicas just show up to find 'work' and just hang out poolside at the Mansion are over. Appointments need to scheduled nowadays. There is also a 'catalog' of chicas on the public computer plus I think there is still a photo album of available chicas.[/QUOTE]I used to be the same like you Vitrea, like I have to have this girl and went on ends to try and "reserve her".. The minute I walked into the party I was immediately glad that I didnt for there was so much fish in the sea and quickly meshed well with her friend and not her.. lol.. Shit happens! Needless to say she was kind of upset but glad her friend make some pesos as well.

[quote=chesrep001]i respect most everyone's opinion, even if i disagree, so i mean no disrepect when i say that i love the food in la mayorista. i would actually travel there from say el castillo or parque lleras to eat. especially breakfast. no matter how well you know the language, as a foreigner it's difficult to get what you thought you ordered for breakfast. but i managed to get sort of a yucca soup, as an appetizer. i love yucca! and then on from there with the normal bandeja paisa. the restaurant with the metal seats outside i love. so different strokes, i suppose. but i haven't found better food than they serve there.[/quote]i'm very happy with a chuzo, chuck the rock hard arepa, lol and a fresh buñelo to try and mop up some of the alcohol. so what if in barranquilla many vendors were arrested for selling donkey meat as res. je je lol.

[QUOTE=Dave7613]If my friend wasn't there with me on this trip I would have been bored to tears. I speak Spanish so it's not like I can't communicate with the women and spend time with them to fill up my down time, it's just that I don't want to spend my days hanging out with *****s. I bang them and that's it.[/QUOTE]Sounds like Boyd.. LOL.. If you don't like to hang out with the chicas during a monger vacation what do you like to do? Lay on the beach and sleep? Check out El Penol... a lake outside of town. You like touristy stuff? Check out Santa Fe. Need water? Check out the many pools/water parks. Never a boring time.

I'm a beach guy too, but I'll "settle" with laying next a pool with lots of hot chicas!

I also like the tiny cafe just below New Life, I like the old gal that runs the place and she sort of puts up with me so its a great relationship. I like the Metro, cleaner than anything in new york los angeles or chicago, I like that the taxis are always metered, I like the friendliness of nearly all the colombians I talk to, I like that it rains a bit everyday. I like going to a professional soccer match for around $5. 00, I like the archetechture and the Mountain views. I also LOVE that I can get that GFE or porn star experience, whichever I choose, I also love the fact that a lot of people don't love it. I can roam all over town and Never hear English spoken, never see some some dude in Bermuda shorts.

TD

in day time, many restaurants in la mayorista market are open. they are very good restaurants though they are not cheap.

[quote=chesrep001]i respect most everyone's opinion, even if i disagree, so i mean no disrepect when i say that i love the food in la mayorista. i would actually travel there from say el castillo or parque lleras to eat. especially breakfast. no matter how well you know the language, as a foreigner it's difficult to get what you thought you ordered for breakfast. but i managed to get sort of a yucca soup, as an appetizer. i love yucca! and then on from there with the normal bandeja paisa. the restaurant with the metal seats outside i love. so different strokes, i suppose. but i haven't found better food than they serve there.[/quote]

Vitrea,

Just wait till you are a couple of days away from your trip, e-mail Marcy and ask her to set up an appointment, depends if she is in town at that moment or not or on the "rags" or her colombian boyfriend says no!

Aussie Greg

[QUOTE=Vitrea]Cubanut, your posts are the main reason I am staying at Casa Blanca for 5 days starting on October 1st. I have read the forum extensively but I do not still have a good sense of how to book a girl at CB. Do I tell the staff or do bunch of horny guys wait in the lounge to see who shows up and clamor for their attention?
If I want to book Alexandra on October 2nd, how do I do that? Do CB staff take booking requests before you show up?

BTW, Fantastic pictures. All your pics rock. After seeing your pics, I am tempted to travel with my good SLR which I usually do for my non mongering trips.

Vitrea.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver]I used to be the same like you Vitrea, like I have to have this girl and went on ends to try and "reserve her".. The minute I walked into the party I was immediately glad that I didnt for there was so much fish in the sea and quickly meshed well with her friend and not her.. lol.. Shit happens! Needless to say she was kind of upset but glad her friend make some pesos as well.[/QUOTE]That's what I'm talkin about amigo.

When in pussy-prison, guys drool over Cuba Nut's fotos and are dying to meet a particualr chica he's posting about, and I can't blame 'em really, but then when you arrive in the land of milk and honey hahaha, and the love is abundant, and you see and meet something you jive with better and you just wish you hadn't made that advance reservation while fantasizing back in the prison.

Just IMHO

[QUOTE=Almotu]I haven't been back to the Mansion for a little while but if you are convinced that you want this girl, just go ask Marcy to call her and set up an appointment for her to visit with you. I would then suggest that you work out the details on what is expected of her in bed and her compensation. Greg or Robert should be able to help get in touch with Alexandra as well.

As far as I know the days when lots of chicas just show up to find 'work' and just hang out poolside at the Mansion are over. Appointments need to scheduled nowadays. There is also a 'catalog' of chicas on the public computer plus I think there is still a photo album of available chicas.[/QUOTE]Last time I stopped by the Mansion, a few months back, there were always at least several chicas hanging out by the pool. Sometimes up to 10 or so.

[QUOTE=Cubanut]Tomasb,

You went with your gut instinct and no one can knock you for that.

I have no idea what the "secret" cell phone call would have been about but I would be willing to guess.

Aleja and many of the other Casa Blanca girls party together. It could be that she was trying to hook up with the other girls who had dates from the Casa Blanca 1 & 2.

I can't tell you how many times I've seen the girls hook up and go party with their TLN's. It is a lot of fun. I have had some wild times with the groups.

Grant it that depending on where you go can mean paying for entry fees, drinks, etc. But one thing I would say is someone dropping a Mickey is one thing I have heard very, very little about (if ever)from the Medellin Mongering Brotherhood. This is NOT Rio (where it was becoming common).

Anyway, you are a strong willed man to stay away from such a beauty as Aleja.

Cheers,

Cubanut

PS. It's funny but I was just thinking of how many ex-Costa Rica going Mongers saw that the best looking chicas in CR were from Colombia. So much so that they decided to come to the source ie. Medellin.

With that in mind I wonder if some of the best looking girls on Romance Latina are also Casa Blanca girls. If that is the case then it's yet another reason why so mongers stay at Casa Blanca 1 & 2. They once again are cumming to the source.

Cheers,

Cubanut[/QUOTE]Cubanut,

I am always very impressed with your photos as you can take an ordinary looking girl and make her look like a model. I am wondering do you use Photoshop or some other tools to enhance your photos? If not then what kind of camera and other photography equipments do you use? I have been going to Colombia for years but was nerver into photography but I am trying to get myself educated on this so I can buy the right camera, etc.

Poorbuthappy,

Cubanut can speak for himself, but I can chime in here as an outside witness. I've done photo shoots with Cubanut (uh, no, not us shooting each other you degenerates), and been in on the process from setup to post production and delivery of product to the girls themselves, and no he does no use photoshop. He's something of a purist in that regard. I wouldn't want to speak for him and say that he never has, but I can tell you from what I've seen first hand, that no, he doesn't, and this includes the pictures you guys are talking about here. I was there from start to finish in the shoot, and we used my MacBook to burn the discs etc. So I can speak definitively on all those shots.

I on the other hand use photoshop a lot to manipulate colors etc, and just play in general. But then I don't post pics either, so that's not really relevant.

Also, to Tomasb on Aleja, you were right to follow your instincts and bail. Don't question yourself for that. You may have been right or you may not, but follow your instincts. As for Aleja specifically, she's been one of my favorite girls and remarkably sweet. But I can see her other side too and wouldn't criticize a guy for not going there if he wasn't feeling it. I do that all the time with girls that others recommend. In fact, it took a really long time before I ever went with her for that very reason. But when she's in the zone, she's top notch. She will remember everything about you and use everything you talk about in future conversations like she's known you her whole life. We've spent hours just yapping away even when I was stateside in hell. She's very engaging. But then again, so are most of these girls. It's just about whether you click or not. So stick to your own instincts and pick the ones with whom you click. I think you were doing that, and you shouldn't be faulted for it.

[quote=vitrea]fantastic pictures cubanut. all your pics rock. after seeing your pics, i am tempted to travel with my good slr which i usually do for my non mongering trips.

vitrea.[/quote][quote=poorbutthappy]cubanut,

i am always very impressed with your photos as you can take an ordinary looking girl and make her look like a model. i am wondering do you use photoshop or some other tools to enhance your photos? if not then what kind of camera and other photography equipments do you use? i have been going to colombia for years but was nerver into photography but i am trying to get myself educated on this so i can buy the right camera, etc.[/quote]gents,

i have several slr cameras but my preference when traveling is a nikon d50 with a standard 18-55mm lens kit and also a fixed 50 mm lens for that "sharp image w/blury background" effect.

one of the most important things to master is lighting! i use a pivoting speed light (sb28) attached to the camera's hot shoe to "bounce" the light as oppose to direct light flash if i were using the built in pop up flash. direct flash causes harsh reflections and dark shadows behind the subject. back home i have the umbrellas and reflectors and backgrounds but never lug them along on vacation.

a digital slr is the way to go for professional looking shots, especially with a nice paisa in front of the camera. however, no need to get ridiculous and bring an slr that's in the thousands of dollars range. i have seen gents do just that although i could see from their use of the camera and photo results that they don't really spend time learning how to effectively use the camera's multi functions to the point of which they just turn it on auto and end up with a point and shoot.

composition is going on in my mind as i look through the lens of the camera. am i tilted? is there debri in the background? is there a hair in the girls face? will she look better with or without a smile? etc. robert was nice enough to go along with my suggestion of an outdoor makeshift studio. we cleared an area, brought out some furniture. added the plants for a nature touch. also suspended a white sheet above the shoot area to allow the flash to "bounce" off of.

one thing is it is real work to get that special shot. i take several pictures in order to try to pinpoint one that brings the best out of my subject.

as far as photo shopping. no, i don't really but what i do, if needed, is crop, lighten/darken highlight etc. but as far as the actual girls, pretty much what you see is what you can get. none of them are professional models. some of the girls have a knack for posing, many do not.

cheers,

cubanut,

ps. i have tried my hand at photo shopping backgrounds but i really don't care for it much. too much time and effort for weak results.

i like the look of ps 3 in your photo. is she a mansion girl, prepago, or from mde?

[quote=cubanut]gents,

i have several slr cameras but my preference when traveling is a nikon d50 with a standard 18-55mm lens kit and also a fixed 50 mm lens for that "sharp image w/blury background" effect.

one of the most important things to master is lighting! i use a pivoting speed light (sb28) attached to the camera's hot shoe to "bounce" the light as oppose to direct light flash if i were using the built in pop up flash. direct flash causes harsh reflections and dark shadows behind the subject. back home i have the umbrellas and reflectors and backgrounds but never lug them along on vacation.

a digital slr is the way to go for professional looking shots, especially with a nice paisa in front of the camera. however, no need to get ridiculous and bring an slr that's in the thousands of dollars range. i have seen gents do just that although i could see from their use of the camera and photo results that they don't really spend time learning how to effectively use the camera's multi functions to the point of which they just turn it on auto and end up with a point and shoot.

composition is going on in my mind as i look through the lens of the camera. am i tilted? is there debri in the background? is there a hair in the girls face? will she look better with or without a smile? etc. robert was nice enough to go along with my suggestion of an outdoor makeshift studio. we cleared an area, brought out some furniture. added the plants for a nature touch. also suspended a white sheet above the shoot area to allow the flash to "bounce" off of.

one thing is it is real work to get that special shot. i take several pictures in order to try to pinpoint one that brings the best out of my subject.

as far as photo shopping. no, i don't really but what i do, if needed, is crop, lighten/darken highlight etc. but as far as the actual girls, pretty much what you see is what you can get. none of them are professional models. some of the girls have a knack for posing, many do not.

cheers,

cubanut,

ps. i have tried my hand at photo shopping backgrounds but i really don't care for it much. too much time and effort for weak results.[/quote]

All.

A.G.

[QUOTE=Tomasb]I like the look of PS 3 in your photo. Is she a mansion girl, prepago, or from MDE?[/QUOTE]

[quote=chesrep001]i respect most everyone's opinion, even if i disagree, so i mean no disrepect when i say that i love the food in la mayorista. i would actually travel there from say el castillo or parque lleras to eat. especially breakfast. no matter how well you know the language, as a foreigner it's difficult to get what you thought you ordered for breakfast. but i managed to get sort of a yucca soup, as an appetizer. i love yucca! and then on from there with the normal bandeja paisa. the restaurant with the metal seats outside i love. so different strokes, i suppose. but i haven't found better food than they serve there.[/quote]good post. i always find that some of the best food i have on a trip is in mom and pop eateries, in small market stands, and sometimes even informal, impromtu meals on the street. in mde, my favorite is a little place on parque bolivar, which has terrific mondongo and bandeja. i personally think soups are the best thing about colombian food, but that is just me. the family that runs the place treats me with kindness and respect, and always is gald to see me. is it sophistocate food? no, it is simple, honest, and tasty.

i had a good meal in la mayorista that i would describe the same way.

[QUOTE=Tomasb]I like the look of PS 3 in your photo. Is she a mansion girl, prepago, or from MDE?[/QUOTE]Tomasb,

PS 3 is a Prepago Mansion Girl from MDE. I just forget her name.

Cheers,

Cubanut

What is the name of PS 2? I saw her in when I was at the Mansion last spring, but did not pull he trigger.

Hellp fellow mongers!

Im totally new at ISG (I will post a copy to the other city-posts too).

I will make a tour to this cities mentioned above, with a start the first of december, last for 3-4 weeks.
I have been reading reports of where to go, and I think I can find very much of that kind of information here, but I have two things I haven´t decided/ don´t know yet:

1. In which order do you think I should visit those countries, which first and wish one last; Concerning weather and/or a festival or some attraction to catch.

2.How long time to spend at each city?

( I have 1,5 year school-spanish behind me and think I will have the chance to learn more other, more useful, words this trip.)

If there is someone that have other useful information to add, im happy for that as well.

Thanks in advance.

Keep up your good work around the world :-)

PS 3 is Flakka Ocampos and she is problems, not one of the better ones from the Mansion. PS 2 is Yessica, she is very sweet but alittle smelly down below.

[QUOTE=Cubanut]Tomasb,

PS 3 is a Prepago Mansion Girl from MDE. I just forget her name.

Cheers,

Cubanut[/QUOTE]Her name is Catalina. The word is that she gained some weight since the picture and she has bit of a belly on her now. I also heard that she is very "commercial".

Arrival: Airport exit was pretty painless. Changed money at the airport, 1780 pesos to 1USD. I did not mind the rate but the whole process with the passport copy and computer entry took almost 7-8 minutes which is a long fucking time.

Hector, mansion's driver was waiting for me. Very nice guy, speaks excellent english. The ride from Airport is 45 minutes but it is a beautiful ride. This gave Hector time to give me a quick run down about MDE's history, geography and the general current state of affairs, safety etc. I think that kind of stuff can be useful to put oneself at ease.

The evening guy, Sebastian, checked me in. He is awesome. Lived in the states and speaks excellent english. They have excellent staff working now at the Casa Blanca I (CB I)

General items:

Money changing next day inside the Oveido mall (A block and half from CB I) was a breeze. 1790 pesos but most importantly, the guy did not ask for a passport and the transaction took one minute. Highly recommended.

Food court at the mall is excellent if you want a quick bite. Late and espresso at McD are better than Starbucks in the US. Burger king, also block from CB I is open till 5 AM. For those of you that have a crave for late night/early morning snack I found this to be a better option that to stop at street corner....especially if you are by yourself.

Weather: I was worried before I came here as the weather underground had bleak projections. Not the case at all. Brief light drizzle is all I experienced in the last 48 hrs and it is sunny as I write this. So, don't let the weather keep you away from MDE.

La Cripa: My spanish is not that good and need a local to be able to tell real Cripa from "regular" stuff. I ended up paying anywhere from 3000 to 5000 each.

Food: Las Palmitas is a fancy restaurant over looking the city. Food is quite good but not worth the price. El Alamo is a bar/restaurant in Parque lleras. I ended up there as it was the only place still serving dinner after midnight. The food sucked.

The first night I booked a girl from girlfriend4aweek and I had a fantastic experience. But that is for another report in that section.

[QUOTE=Iguana Six]What is the name of PS 2? I saw her in when I was at the Mansion last spring, but did not pull he trigger.[/QUOTE]Looks like Jimena to me.

Sunday:

I went to New life. They had 8 girls. Couple of them were cute but I did not get a good vibe when I greeted them and shook their hands. I passed and went over to Athena around the corner from New life.

Athena: The had 5 girls. I liked Pamela's looks. I chose 30 minutes. She is 29 yrs old but has a great body, tall thin (not skinny) with tight abs. Spoke a little bit of english and her service was fantastic. BBBJ without asking. I tipped her nicely and agreed to meet for dinner on Monday. Not sure if it will materialize but will be sure to post if it happens.

[QUOTE=Joeknowz]Looks like Jimena to me.[/QUOTE]Yes she is. I am looking at her as I type this. She looks better in real than in this picture (which is unusual for Cubanut's photos)

Several posts back someone said they had a fetish for braces. I don't remember who it is that said but you will in heaven in MDE. Almost a quarter of them seems to have braces. Seems like a popular thing to do, after breast implants.

[QUOTE=Vitrea]Several posts back someone said they had a fetish for braces. I don't remember who it is that said but you will in heaven in MDE. Almost a quarter of them seems to have braces. Seems like a popular thing to do, after breast implants.[/QUOTE]It's because it's cheap. I think it's like $20/month with no upfront fees.. A lot don't even go back to continue because they can't afford it and you'll see missing braces. Implants are cheap too. I should ask my amiga how much hers cost. Similar payment plans.

Few posts back there was discussion that Doll House is closed. If some one is in Medellin can they please let me know if Doll House is for sure closed or is it still open.

Regards,

John.

[QUOTE=John]Few posts back there was discussion that Doll House is closed. If some one is in Medellin can they please let me know if Doll House is for sure closed or is it still open.

Regards,

John.[/QUOTE]Yes it is closed.

As for implants and other dental treatments, Argentina (and possibly other countries) is cheaper than Colombia.

[QUOTE=Hioctane]It's because it's cheap. I think it's like $20/month with no upfront fees.. A lot don't even go back to continue because they can't afford it and you'll see missing braces. Implants are cheap too. I should ask my amiga how much hers cost. Similar payment plans.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Matt Psyche]As for implants and other dental treatments, Argentina (and possibly other countries) is cheaper than Colombia.[/QUOTE]I have found Lima, Peru to have excellent dentists and the cost was almost to cheap to believe. Last year I had A cleaning and a filling done and also a crown installed. Total cost was 125 dollars. Try to match that anywhere.

Since I spend a lot of time in Colombia I get my teeth cleaned there, but the cost is close to double what it is in Lima.

Since I have no health insurance in the Good Ole USA, I love latin America for the health care I need.

Whats that you say there is also beautiful women to be had on the cheap in these areas. Wow, I am a happy camper.

I have been down here in Medellin for two months enjoying all there is to offer. My Intel questions are clearing U.S. Customs in Ft. lauderdale. I fly Sunday Oct 10th from MDE direct to Fort Lauderdale. Anyone have current info or experience with that point of entry? I have very little to declare and hope not to encounter being drilled by civil servant agents who hate there jobs. Past experience at different points of entry have been no pleasant ordeal.

Thanks,

Gran Jefe

Made another trip to the casas. Went to Sexi at around 2:30 on Monday. Did not quite like the line up so I left. Couple of buddies I went with were quite happy with their selections and were not so thrilled with the performance even after a promise of propina for BBBJ. BTW, Sexi only had cold showers.

I had to go run some errands and I made it back to the are and went to New life. Only girl I liked there was Stephanie. She is petite spinner with bubble butt, cute face and a radiant smile. No BBBJ and no besos, regardless of the propina. It was only 35,000 so I did not care. It was a pleasant experience. They have hot (warm) showers which is a big plus for me.

I walked over to Athena at 7:15 to see if Pamela can go out with me as promised. It is a no go. She did apologize profusely and promised that she would go out tomorrow. I really don't think she expected me to show up.

[QUOTE=Matt Psyche]As for implants and other dental treatments, Argentina (and possibly other countries) is cheaper than Colombia.[/QUOTE]I used Juan Carlos Mejia Escalante of ARTICA clinic. He is not inexpensive but very good. I got cleaning, whitening and trays with gel for $280 US. It cost my friend the same stuff over $500 in the USA. Not cheap but good quality here as the doctor himself does all the work as opposed to a dental hygienist in the USA. The guy did such a good job protecting the gums that it was not painful at all. On the other hand, my buddy who had it done in US bitched about the pain and sensitivity to food for almost a week. BTW, he uses the same "zoom" system here in CO.

[QUOTE=Granjefe]I have been down here in Medellin for two months enjoying all there is to offer. My Intel questions are clearing U.S. Customs in Ft. lauderdale. I fly Sunday Oct 10th from MDE direct to Fort Lauderdale. Anyone have current info or experience with that point of entry? I have very little to declare and hope not to encounter being drilled by civil servant agents who hate there jobs. Past experience at different points of entry have been no pleasant ordeal.

Thanks,

Gran Jefe[/QUOTE]When I left MED 2 weeks ago they went into my bags 4 fucking times, when I hit the states they wouldent even look at them.

[QUOTE=Granjefe]I have been down here in Medellin for two months enjoying all there is to offer. My Intel questions are clearing U.S. Customs in Ft. lauderdale. I fly Sunday Oct 10th from MDE direct to Fort Lauderdale. Anyone have current info or experience with that point of entry? I have very little to declare and hope not to encounter being drilled by civil servant agents who hate there jobs. Past experience at different points of entry have been no pleasant ordeal.

Thanks,

Gran Jefe[/QUOTE]FLL is a great point of entry into the USA. I must have done it 10 times this year with no problems. The pain in the ass is when you leave the Colombian airports. I have had my bag checked up to 6 times. One time a guy opened my bag and did a real good inventory. A female stood there watching him and then checked my bag herself all over again. It took all my street smarts to dummy up.

I wanted to go to Lutron on Tuesday afternoon. One of the guys at CB talked me out of it. The rationale was that it is too expensive for a mechanical casa experience. I agreed and went looking at Abydos, Blue room and Energy.

Abydos: they had 9 girls and even though it took them forever to show up, the display is very professional. Hannah was the closest to my liking but I passed and on to Blue room. Price 100 mil for 30 and 120 mil for 60 min.

Blue room. 4 girls in 6-7 range. Price is 85 mil for 1 hr.

Energy: 6 girls. I chose Mia who is medium height, medium looks but seemed friendly and most importantly I am done looking. Her service was OK but no BBBJ unless I give her 50 mil more. Forget it. Took a shower and left satisfied, if not happy


BTW, my original plan was to go back to the chica with best looks which was Hannah at Abydos but these places are lot farther than it seemed on the map and traffic was bad.

I did force myself to showup at Athena at 7:15 PM, half expecting Pamela to be AWOL. Jesus let me in with a knowing smile. BTW, Jesus is awesome. The guy is built like a bouncer at a ritzy club with zero attitude.

As I waited, Jesus poured me some rum and Pamela showed up freshly showered. Off we go. we stop and gather some Vodka plus supplies. In the taxi she tells me that this is her first week. I know this true because Jesus casually mentioned that Pamela is very new and she does not have any regular clients and I am her first regular.

In the room she is all over me. I don't ever remember being romanced this way. We kissed and played with each other fully clothed for a solid 30 minutes. It was like in college (many many years ago). Sex was mind blowing. She came three times, which was a first me. Vodka Plus Viagra (V&V) helps.

She said she wanted to leave but had tears in her eyes when she was leaving. I gave her 150 mil and she said that was too much for her. When the cab arrived, I offered her cab fare and she refused. Sebastian from CB was there watching this and he was blown away. He sees guys sending off chicas everyday and he has never seen a chica with tears in her eyes nor one that ever refused cab fare.

Just reporting....doing my part for the world of ISG

[QUOTE=Vitrea]I did force myself to showup at Athena at 7:15 PM, half expecting Pamela to be AWOL. Jesus let me in with a knowing smile. BTW, Jesus is awesome. The guy is built like a bouncer at a ritzy club with zero attitude.

As I waited, Jesus poured me some rum and Pamela showed up freshly showered. Off we go. we stop and gather some Vodka plus supplies. In the taxi she tells me that this is her first week. I know this true because Jesus casually mentioned that Pamela is very new and she does not have any regular clients and I am her first regular.

In the room she is all over me. I don't ever remember being romanced this way. We kissed and played with each other fully clothed for a solid 30 minutes. It was like in college (many many years ago). Sex was mind blowing. She came three times, which was a first me. Vodka Plus Viagra (V&V) helps.

She said she wanted to leave but had tears in her eyes when she was leaving. I gave her 150 mil and she said that was too much for her. When the cab arrived, I offered her cab fare and she refused. Sebastian from CB was there watching this and he was blown away. He sees guys sending off chicas everyday and he has never seen a chica with tears in her eyes nor one that ever refused cab fare.

Just reporting....doing my part for the world of ISG[/QUOTE]Had to have been the 3 orgasms you gave her, she probably has never been shagged like this before. Hence the tears, bawling and not wanting to leave.

I had a great flight coming in to MDE. I met two guys sitting next to me and I never even opened a book as we talked the whole 3 hour flight time from FLL.

After getting settled in I went to El centro and checked out Las Americas, and Conejitas strip clubs. It was early in the night and nothing I saw was that good. Beer in both Joints was 5K. Unless I hook up with a crew I think Strip Clubs on this trip are now out of bounds for me. There is cheaper and as good if not better in the Casas and Mayorista. (opps I forgot I promised I would not promote that area)

I had my favorite street food in front of Las Americas (sausages for 1K)

Big surpeise it rained all night. A Puta told me in December the weather is better. I think the rain hurt the mayorista Strip as I did not see a lot of the regulars. I took Valeria who I had on my last trip. She has a great body and is super nice. She remarked on Todd who I met on my last trip. If your out there Todd she likes you. I held off on giving up my milk as I wanted at least one more girl to start off this trip. I saw a new one who was a little younger than I usually pick, Hence the handle Vics picks) but I got great vibes from her so I ended up buying her 3 drinks and man she can really dance a sexy reggeaton. She was 30K, and was great in the room. I broke my 10K tip rule and gave her 20K instead.

I guess I will now for the rest of this 9 day trip I will hook up with my regulars. Most of the time I like to hunt for new prospects but since this is such a short trip I will now deal with what I know are reliable firms.

More to follow

P.S. When I meet a ISG Monger I always like to ask about what their screen name is and how they came up with it. Always interesting to me.

[QUOTE=Matt Psyche]As for implants and other dental treatments, Argentina (and possibly other countries) is cheaper than Colombia.[/QUOTE]I was just in Medellin 2 weeks ago, and our driver Juan Carlos, set me up with the dentist from DentImagen in Laureles Calle 36 No80-63. I went in for a teeth cleaning which cost 80k pesos, and ended up getting all ten of my silver fillings changed white and all my teeth whitened using the ultraviolet light for 720k pesos. Which is a 1/3 to 1/4 of what I would have paid for here in the States The Dentist was very nice, and office staff was cool. I would go back.

Hello all,

I will be leaving for Medellin on my first trip!, I guess I am fully prepared.

I will be in Medellin Oct 29th, if any of you in MDE during the same week PM me. We can hook up.

I also need intel on this girl that I met on Romancelatina.

Here is the link to her profile, I need to know if she is a prepaid or a regular girl, so far she did not say she need any money, appreciate you help.

[url]http://www.romancelatina.com/es/member/profile.php?profile_id=1987205&s_list=183357&res_num=1[/url]

[QUOTE=Vitrea]I did force myself to showup at Athena at 7:15 PM, half expecting Pamela to be AWOL. Jesus let me in with a knowing smile. BTW, Jesus is awesome. The guy is built like a bouncer at a ritzy club with zero attitude.

As I waited, Jesus poured me some rum and Pamela showed up freshly showered. Off we go. we stop and gather some Vodka plus supplies. In the taxi she tells me that this is her first week. I know this true because Jesus casually mentioned that Pamela is very new and she does not have any regular clients and I am her first regular.

In the room she is all over me. I don't ever remember being romanced this way. We kissed and played with each other fully clothed for a solid 30 minutes. It was like in college (many many years ago). Sex was mind blowing. She came three times, which was a first me. Vodka Plus Viagra (V&V) helps.

She said she wanted to leave but had tears in her eyes when she was leaving. I gave her 150 mil and she said that was too much for her. When the cab arrived, I offered her cab fare and she refused. Sebastian from CB was there watching this and he was blown away. He sees guys sending off chicas everyday and he has never seen a chica with tears in her eyes nor one that ever refused cab fare.

Just reporting....doing my part for the world of ISG[/QUOTE]I nominate her for an Academy Award.

Or maybe the audience was just a tad impartial.

All the best,

Schwmm

[QUOTE=Joe Six Pack]Hello all,

I will be leaving for Medellin on my first trip!, I guess I am fully prepared.

I will be in Medellin Oct 29th, if any of you in MDE during the same week PM me. We can hook up.

I also need intel on this girl that I met on Romancelatina.

Here is the link to her profile, I need to know if she is a prepaid or a regular girl, so far she did not say she need any money, appreciate you help.

[url]http://www.romancelatina.com/es/member/profile.php?profile_id=1987205&s_list=183357&res_num=1[/url][/QUOTE]Just about every girl on that site is a prepago, has money coming in from all angles. You could be just another western union novio to go along with her Colombian boyfriend. Lets see, 20yr old girl, no job but has new implants and can afford 20k per day to go to Club Body Tech?(hypothetical) p.s. though, Her pics and scenario scream prepago anyways.

Good Luck!

[QUOTE=Joe Six Pack]Hello all,

I will be leaving for Medellin on my first trip!, I guess I am fully prepared.

I will be in Medellin Oct 29th, if any of you in MDE during the same week PM me. We can hook up.

I also need intel on this girl that I met on Romancelatina.

Here is the link to her profile, I need to know if she is a prepaid or a regular girl, so far she did not say she need any money, appreciate you help.

[url]http://www.romancelatina.com/es/member/profile.php?profile_id=1987205&s_list=183357&res_num=1[/url][/QUOTE]She is a working girl. I will see her friday night and I have been with her many times. She is good and a sweet girl but she can be clingy and she gets pissed if you make her leave. I can handle her for a day or so then its time to play because there are two many to experience to girlfriend with her the entire stay in Medellin. I have been with her for free before but that is not normal and she sent an email telling me she was not asking for any money to be with me. This usually means I will have to take her out but not shopping because she can hurt your wallet in the malls in Poblado.

Hey Sharkbait, dont be sharkbait, these girls are prepago and all want something. They dont love you, they love what you can do for them. Dont go there with some crazy notions.

[QUOTE=Shark Bait]She is a working girl. I will see her friday night and I have been with her many times. She is good and a sweet girl but she can be clingy and she gets pissed if you make her leave. I can handle her for a day or so then its time to play because there are two many to experience to girlfriend with her the entire stay in Medellin. I have been with her for free before but that is not normal and she sent an email telling me she was not asking for any money to be with me. This usually means I will have to take her out but not shopping because she can hurt your wallet in the malls in Poblado.[/QUOTE]

I believe this is the girl Aussie Greg said..

"If I had a peso for every lb of leche she's swallowed, I'd be rich.."

[QUOTE=Joe Six Pack]Hello all,

I will be leaving for Medellin on my first trip!, I guess I am fully prepared.

I will be in Medellin Oct 29th, if any of you in MDE during the same week PM me. We can hook up.

I also need intel on this girl that I met on Romancelatina.

Here is the link to her profile, I need to know if she is a prepaid or a regular girl, so far she did not say she need any money, appreciate you help.

[url]http://www.romancelatina.com/es/member/profile.php?profile_id=1987205&s_list=183357&res_num=1[/url][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Joe Six Pack]Hello all,

I will be leaving for Medellin on my first trip!, I guess I am fully prepared.

I will be in Medellin Oct 29th, if any of you in MDE during the same week PM me. We can hook up.

I also need intel on this girl that I met on Romancelatina.

Here is the link to her profile, I need to know if she is a prepaid or a regular girl, so far she did not say she need any money, appreciate you help.

[url]http://www.romancelatina.com/es/member/profile.php?profile_id=1987205&s_list=183357&res_num=1[/url][/QUOTE]She's a sweetheart of a chica, fun to be around, and nice but definitely works PFP.

I've been friends with her for a bit, she even slept in my room one night at the Castillo, no sex, after she didn't like some gringo that she was hangin with.

Just be up front with her and tell her what you're looking for.

[QUOTE=Vitrea]I did force myself to showup at Athena at 7:15 PM, half expecting Pamela to be AWOL. Jesus let me in with a knowing smile. BTW, Jesus is awesome. The guy is built like a bouncer at a ritzy club with zero attitude.

As I waited, Jesus poured me some rum and Pamela showed up freshly showered. Off we go. we stop and gather some Vodka plus supplies. In the taxi she tells me that this is her first week. I know this true because Jesus casually mentioned that Pamela is very new and she does not have any regular clients and I am her first regular.

In the room she is all over me. I don't ever remember being romanced this way. We kissed and played with each other fully clothed for a solid 30 minutes. It was like in college (many many years ago). Sex was mind blowing. She came three times, which was a first me. Vodka Plus Viagra (V&V) helps.

She said she wanted to leave but had tears in her eyes when she was leaving. I gave her 150 mil and she said that was too much for her. When the cab arrived, I offered her cab fare and she refused. Sebastian from CB was there watching this and he was blown away. He sees guys sending off chicas everyday and he has never seen a chica with tears in her eyes nor one that ever refused cab fare.

Just reporting....doing my part for the world of ISG[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reports and updates.

Always nice to connect with a sweet chica and yes, of course, there are and can be legit connections with PFP chicas.

Just keep you're eyes open 'cause as you know, they can be great actresses too.

Have fun amigo!

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver]Just about every girl on that site is a prepago, has money coming in from all angles. You could be just another western union novio to go along with her Colombian boyfriend. Lets see, 20yr old girl, no job but has new implants and can afford 20k per day to go to Club Body Tech?(hypothetical) p.s. though, Her pics and scenario scream prepago anyways.

Good Luck![/QUOTE]Mansion chica.

They're real but did get ass implants.

[QUOTE=Joe Six Pack]Hello all,

I will be leaving for Medellin on my first trip!, I guess I am fully prepared.

I will be in Medellin Oct 29th, if any of you in MDE during the same week PM me. We can hook up.

I also need intel on this girl that I met on Romancelatina.

Here is the link to her profile, I need to know if she is a prepaid or a regular girl, so far she did not say she need any money, appreciate you help.

[url]http://www.romancelatina.com/es/member/profile.php?profile_id=1987205&s_list=183357&res_num=1[/url][/QUOTE]Yep, you can find her regularly at Casa Blanca Uno. THink she was banned for a few weeks, but her time in the penalty box may be over!

Shark bait, dont be shark bait. come on man, these women are prepagos, you must know this. come on.

[QUOTE=Shark Bait]She is a working girl. I will see her friday night and I have been with her many times. She is good and a sweet girl but she can be clingy and she gets pissed if you make her leave. I can handle her for a day or so then its time to play because there are two many to experience to girlfriend with her the entire stay in Medellin. I have been with her for free before but that is not normal and she sent an email telling me she was not asking for any money to be with me. This usually means I will have to take her out but not shopping because she can hurt your wallet in the malls in Poblado.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Joe Six Pack]Hello all,

I will be leaving for Medellin on my first trip!, I guess I am fully prepared.

I will be in Medellin Oct 29th, if any of you in MDE during the same week PM me. We can hook up.

I also need intel on this girl that I met on Romancelatina.

Here is the link to her profile, I need to know if she is a prepaid or a regular girl, so far she did not say she need any money, appreciate you help.

[url]http://www.romancelatina.com/es/member/profile.php?profile_id=1987205&s_list=183357&res_num=1[/url][/QUOTE]Yes Joe, Bibiana is a prepago. I hooked up with her twice during my June trip. I didn't get to see her on my September trip because my novia stayed with me. We still chat on MSN. I will say she is a very nice girl with a great sense of humor. She's barely 5 feet tall. One sobering fact I have learned on my 5 MDE trips is at least 70% of the Paisas between 18-30 years old have or will sell their ass for gringo money. Finding the 30% that won't is a difficult task. If you're looking for just sex then you won't have a problem finding it. If you're looking for a loving relationship then you will have to take a lot of time getting to know a Paisa and testing her to see if she's a prepago or not. I tested my novia by having a friend set up an RL account. We sent her an email posing as a gringo about to visit MDE to see what her response would be. She didn't take the bait. She even asked me to help her remove her profile because she doesn't like being propositioned. You can also test a Paisa when you spend time with her. See if she can spend the night with you for free without having to leave because of a "family emergency". If she can do this for 2 or 3 nights in a row then you may have a good one. Good luck on your trip Joe. I'll be back in MDE 11/27-12/1.

Joe,

You're not accepting PMs. I will be in MDE at the same time and I'm looking for people to hang with.

CC

Here is the link to her profile on Latin American Cupid. She has used both the names above. She is currently using the name Sair.

I think you can click on each thumbnail to view that photo larger.

[url]http://www.latinamericancupid.com/en/profile/showProfile/ID/2478995?searchposition=2&searchtotal=500[/url]

Is she a P4P girl? If so, how much? She is certainly gorgeous!

My friend not only she is a PFP her preference is more towards women. She just does PFP with you for the Gringo Dollar.

If you ask her she would love to give you a Lesbian show with another friend of hers. Although the show gets quiet expensive but it is worth seeing live natural show of two lesbian girls having sex.

I arranged one of these shows in my last visit and right after the show I was so horny that I banged these girls hard core.

Regards,

John

[QUOTE=Joe Six Pack]Hello all,

I will be leaving for Medellin on my first trip!, I guess I am fully prepared.

I will be in Medellin Oct 29th, if any of you in MDE during the same week PM me. We can hook up.

I also need intel on this girl that I met on Romancelatina.

Here is the link to her profile, I need to know if she is a prepaid or a regular girl, so far she did not say she need any money, appreciate you help.

[url]http://www.romancelatina.com/es/member/profile.php?profile_id=1987205&s_list=183357&res_num=1[/url][/QUOTE]

I spent a few days in Medellin in search of the illustrious Latin women that one sees in Miami beach. I wanted tall, hot, and curvy chicas and heard that Medellin boasts the hottest chicks in Latin America thus I opted to check the place out.

I expected Medellin to be the Latin version of Kiev or Odessa and with 8's and 9's du jour and was disappointed. There are plenty of good looking and cute girls about but the place was not overflowing with smoking hot women.

There is a tripartite P4P scene in Medellin: the Mansion girls who are cute but far from spectacular, the casa girls which run the gamut from ass ugly to a small percentage but readily available 8s, and the strip club girls that range from 5s to 8s. I guess there is actually an escort service scene too, but I didn't try it and can't comment upon it although I've heard it's hit or miss and the ol' switch a roo happens about ½ the time.

Mansion Girls: I played third wheel for lunch with a fellow inhabitant of El Castillo who managed to score a pretty sweet babe with big fake tits. The young lad was a war vet and was working as a combat zone contractor so I maintained enough discipline not to try to screw his hooker while he was still at El Castillo. After lunch, as they were going back to fuck I asked if she had a friend. Worst sentence I ever uttered south of the equator. She replied that she had a friend that looked exactly like her but when she arrived she looked nothing like her. The girl was grinning like a Cheshire cat when she saw me and I was terrified that this heffa would eat me for supper. I tried to send a series of subliminal and overt messages to let my el Castillo mate and the girls to broadcast that I was not interested but they were not receiving. In fact, my el Castillo buddy looked at me and shrugged his shoulders while saying, "dude, she's got big titties like you wanted". I smiled and murmured, "she has a big everything, " My mate and his hottie went to go screw and I was left awkwardly standing in the hallway. I decided to play broke and reached into my pocket and pulled out two 50, 000 peso bills. She smiled and practically screamed "no problem. " At this point, I figured that it'd be easier to be a nice guy than to send her away with no money for food so I nodded to the room and then nodded down to my cock. She then proceeded to suck me off as I watched an episode of Spike TVs DEA.

Casa Girls: I'm not much into short-term sessions but I think that the casas are not to be missed; there is virtually something for everybody's tastes and budget. Just viewing the lineups are a great experience: you sit on a sofa and the girls come out one by one in smocks and quickly disrobe to their undies to give the potential customer a better view of the goods. I grabbed a gorgeous 7. 5 from a casa for 120k who said she was from the Amazon jungle. Far out. There are numerous casas around town and surprisingly the higher end casa for 220k didn't have better girls than the 120k casa did. I visited three casas and was nominally impressed by what I saw.

Strip Club Girls: The best strip club is Facie Dos. It's a well kept western styled strip club with an 8 or two in attendance on any given night. For 150k you can fuck any of the girls there for about an hour. The best value and my favorite place was San Diego, which is generally one step below Facie Dos in terms of looks and maybe 1 or two steps below Facie Dos facilities wise—the rooms in the fuck motel next to Facie Dos are pretty nice. San Diego is much darker but the girls there were much more approachable and genuine than the chicks from Facie Dos. While 70% or more of the girls from Facie DOS are enhanced and veterans of the hooker circuit in Costa Rica and Panama less than 25% of the Sand Diego girls are. That being said, the girls from San Diego come from and likely still reside in the worst barrios of Medellin and have thievery in their blood and will rob you at the first chance they get. I actually got robbed by a chic one night during a ménage a trois and then took her again the next night because I just had to fuck her. LOL. Lunna Lunera is an overpriced shithole with ugly girls that is both the worst value for the peso and has the nastiest putas. My suggestion is to avoid that place.

The hitman: highclass hooker analogy—I really wanted to fuck some model types but struck out. Looking for high class semi-pro hoes is akin to looking for a hitman. Everybody knows that assassins exist but trying to parachute into a foreign location and find one in a few days with no connections is damn near impossible. I assume that if one were to wonder around Brighton Beach eventually the " I know a guy who knows a guy" might pan out but your not going to go from inquiry to confirmed whack in eight hours. Same shit with semi-pro type models from Medellin. The fact is that there are hot girls in Medellin—some of which may even be avail—but access to such women is normally limited to the local elite and monied expats (not tourists). I have since gotten a number from a Colombian guy sitting next to me at the Hilton bar in CTG who felt insulted when I said that the hookers in Colombia were not that good looking. We'll see what pans out.

Regular Girls: The desirable ones are a tough nut to crack with or without Spanish skills. I was shocked that virtually nobody speaks English in Colombia. Even the upper-class broads and the people that have lived in the USA for a year or two. They don't learn it in school? In places like Romania or fuck, even Uzbekistan, the girls virtually all speak English. Hell, in Romania one can be in the middle of BFE and stop at a gas station and the clerk will understand English. I saw a bunch of gringos around Medellin and I didn't see one with a top-notch broad. I came to the conclusion that the only way to meet decent Colombian women is to be introduced by a Colombian. Funny story, I went to barrio Colombia and barely got into the place where I was supposed to meet a girl and her friends. I sat at the bar and people basically just kinda ignored me. I smiled at the friends—but didn't know it yet- of the girl and they returned a very tentative half-hearted smile. When the girl—a cousin of the attendant at the Lounge in Miami—came up to me and introduced herself and brought me to the table of the friends the mood turned on a dime and a good and engaging time was had by all. Add to this that Colombians are VERY classist so you'd better advertise yourself appropriately or run the risk of being iced out.

DD

Hello thanks for the advice, these are some of her pictures from her profile, I do not mind a 3 some with Bibiana, Does she look the same in person ?

[url]http://www.romancelatina.com/es/member/profile.php?profile_id=1987205&s_list=183357&res_num=1[/url]

[QUOTE=John]My friend not only she is a PFP her preference is more towards women. She just does PFP with you for the Gringo Dollar.

If you ask her she would love to give you a Lesbian show with another friend of hers. Although the show gets quiet expensive but it is worth seeing live natural show of two lesbian girls having sex.

I arranged one of these shows in my last visit and right after the show I was so horny that I banged these girls hard core.

Regards,

John[/QUOTE]

Dirkdingy great report. Even though I don't agree with your perspective on Colombian women, I really enjoyed your report. Looking forward to reading about your future adventures.

[QUOTE=DirkDingy]I spent a few days in Medellin in search of the illustrious Latin women that one sees in Miami beach. I wanted tall, hot, and curvy chicas and heard that Medellin boasts the hottest chicks in Latin America thus I opted to check the place out.

I expected Medellin to be the Latin version of Kiev or Odessa and with 8's and 9's du jour and was disappointed. There are plenty of good looking and cute girls about but the place was not overflowing with smoking hot women.

There is a tripartite P4P scene in Medellin: the Mansion girls who are cute but far from spectacular, the casa girls which run the gamut from ass ugly to a small percentage but readily available 8s, and the strip club girls that range from 5s to 8s. I guess there is actually an escort service scene too, but I didn't try it and can't comment upon it although I've heard it's hit or miss and the ol' switch a roo happens about ½ the time.

Mansion Girls: I played third wheel for lunch with a fellow inhabitant of El Castillo who managed to score a pretty sweet babe with big fake tits. The young lad was a war vet and was working as a combat zone contractor so I maintained enough discipline not to try to screw his hooker while he was still at El Castillo. After lunch, as they were going back to fuck I asked if she had a friend. Worst sentence I ever uttered south of the equator. She replied that she had a friend that looked exactly like her but when she arrived she looked nothing like her. The girl was grinning like a Cheshire cat when she saw me and I was terrified that this heffa would eat me for supper. I tried to send a series of subliminal and overt messages to let my el Castillo mate and the girls to broadcast that I was not interested but they were not receiving. In fact, my el Castillo buddy looked at me and shrugged his shoulders while saying, "dude, she's got big titties like you wanted". I smiled and murmured, "she has a big everything, " My mate and his hottie went to go screw and I was left awkwardly standing in the hallway. I decided to play broke and reached into my pocket and pulled out two 50, 000 peso bills. She smiled and practically screamed "no problem. " At this point, I figured that it'd be easier to be a nice guy than to send her away with no money for food so I nodded to the room and then nodded down to my cock. She then proceeded to suck me off as I watched an episode of Spike TVs DEA.

Casa Girls: I'm not much into short-term sessions but I think that the casas are not to be missed; there is virtually something for everybody's tastes and budget. Just viewing the lineups are a great experience: you sit on a sofa and the girls come out one by one in smocks and quickly disrobe to their undies to give the potential customer a better view of the goods. I grabbed a gorgeous 7. 5 from a casa for 120k who said she was from the Amazon jungle. Far out. There are numerous casas around town and surprisingly the higher end casa for 220k didn't have better girls than the 120k casa did. I visited three casas and was nominally impressed by what I saw.

Strip Club Girls: The best strip club is Facie Dos. It's a well kept western styled strip club with an 8 or two in attendance on any given night. For 150k you can fuck any of the girls there for about an hour. The best value and my favorite place was San Diego, which is generally one step below Facie Dos in terms of looks and maybe 1 or two steps below Facie Dos facilities wise—the rooms in the fuck motel next to Facie Dos are pretty nice. San Diego is much darker but the girls there were much more approachable and genuine than the chicks from Facie Dos. While 70% or more of the girls from Facie DOS are enhanced and veterans of the hooker circuit in Costa Rica and Panama less than 25% of the Sand Diego girls are. That being said, the girls from San Diego come from and likely still reside in the worst barrios of Medellin and have thievery in their blood and will rob you at the first chance they get. I actually got robbed by a chic one night during a ménage a trois and then took her again the next night because I just had to fuck her. LOL. Lunna Lunera is an overpriced shithole with ugly girls that is both the worst value for the peso and has the nastiest putas. My suggestion is to avoid that place.

The hitman: highclass hooker analogy—I really wanted to fuck some model types but struck out. Looking for high class semi-pro hoes is akin to looking for a hitman. Everybody knows that assassins exist but trying to parachute into a foreign location and find one in a few days with no connections is damn near impossible. I assume that if one were to wonder around Brighton Beach eventually the " I know a guy who knows a guy" might pan out but your not going to go from inquiry to confirmed whack in eight hours. Same shit with semi-pro type models from Medellin. The fact is that there are hot girls in Medellin—some of which may even be avail—but access to such women is normally limited to the local elite and monied expats (not tourists). I have since gotten a number from a Colombian guy sitting next to me at the Hilton bar in CTG who felt insulted when I said that the hookers in Colombia were not that good looking. We'll see what pans out.

Regular Girls: The desirable ones are a tough nut to crack with or without Spanish skills. I was shocked that virtually nobody speaks English in Colombia. Even the upper-class broads and the people that have lived in the USA for a year or two. They don't learn it in school? In places like Romania or fuck, even Uzbekistan, the girls virtually all speak English. Hell, in Romania one can be in the middle of BFE and stop at a gas station and the clerk will understand English. I saw a bunch of gringos around Medellin and I didn't see one with a top-notch broad. I came to the conclusion that the only way to meet decent Colombian women is to be introduced by a Colombian. Funny story, I went to barrio Colombia and barely got into the place where I was supposed to meet a girl and her friends. I sat at the bar and people basically just kinda ignored me. I smiled at the friends—but didn't know it yet- of the girl and they returned a very tentative half-hearted smile. When the girl—a cousin of the attendant at the Lounge in Miami—came up to me and introduced herself and brought me to the table of the friends the mood turned on a dime and a good and engaging time was had by all. Add to this that Colombians are VERY classist so you'd better advertise yourself appropriately or run the risk of being iced out.

DD[/QUOTE]Dirk if you find out anything about the high class escort scene please msg me. I think I would be real interested in this type of service.

Maybe that I'm a big guy in general but I perfer the chic in the white over the other 2 chics. The casa chic looks ok stretch marks and shit on her ass you can tell she has had a kid. The other white girl looking chic doesn't do anything for me. She looks like she needs a shower before going out like that. IMHO.

[QUOTE=DirkDingy]I spent a few days in Medellin in search of the illustrious Latin women that one sees in Miami beach. I wanted tall, hot, and curvy chicas and heard that Medellin boasts the hottest chicks in Latin America thus I opted to check the place out.

I expected Medellin to be the Latin version of Kiev or Odessa and with 8's and 9's du jour and was disappointed. There are plenty of good looking and cute girls about but the place was not overflowing with smoking hot women.

There is a tripartite P4P scene in Medellin: the Mansion girls who are cute but far from spectacular, the casa girls which run the gamut from ass ugly to a small percentage but readily available 8s, and the strip club girls that range from 5s to 8s. I guess there is actually an escort service scene too, but I didn't try it and can't comment upon it although I've heard it's hit or miss and the ol' switch a roo happens about ½ the time.

Mansion Girls: I played third wheel for lunch with a fellow inhabitant of El Castillo who managed to score a pretty sweet babe with big fake tits. The young lad was a war vet and was working as a combat zone contractor so I maintained enough discipline not to try to screw his hooker while he was still at El Castillo. After lunch, as they were going back to fuck I asked if she had a friend. Worst sentence I ever uttered south of the equator. She replied that she had a friend that looked exactly like her but when she arrived she looked nothing like her. The girl was grinning like a Cheshire cat when she saw me and I was terrified that this heffa would eat me for supper. I tried to send a series of subliminal and overt messages to let my el Castillo mate and the girls to broadcast that I was not interested but they were not receiving. In fact, my el Castillo buddy looked at me and shrugged his shoulders while saying, "dude, she's got big titties like you wanted". I smiled and murmured, "she has a big everything, " My mate and his hottie went to go screw and I was left awkwardly standing in the hallway. I decided to play broke and reached into my pocket and pulled out two 50, 000 peso bills. She smiled and practically screamed "no problem. " At this point, I figured that it'd be easier to be a nice guy than to send her away with no money for food so I nodded to the room and then nodded down to my cock. She then proceeded to suck me off as I watched an episode of Spike TVs DEA.

Casa Girls: I'm not much into short-term sessions but I think that the casas are not to be missed; there is virtually something for everybody's tastes and budget. Just viewing the lineups are a great experience: you sit on a sofa and the girls come out one by one in smocks and quickly disrobe to their undies to give the potential customer a better view of the goods. I grabbed a gorgeous 7. 5 from a casa for 120k who said she was from the Amazon jungle. Far out. There are numerous casas around town and surprisingly the higher end casa for 220k didn't have better girls than the 120k casa did. I visited three casas and was nominally impressed by what I saw.

Strip Club Girls: The best strip club is Facie Dos. It's a well kept western styled strip club with an 8 or two in attendance on any given night. For 150k you can fuck any of the girls there for about an hour. The best value and my favorite place was San Diego, which is generally one step below Facie Dos in terms of looks and maybe 1 or two steps below Facie Dos facilities wise—the rooms in the fuck motel next to Facie Dos are pretty nice. San Diego is much darker but the girls there were much more approachable and genuine than the chicks from Facie Dos. While 70% or more of the girls from Facie DOS are enhanced and veterans of the hooker circuit in Costa Rica and Panama less than 25% of the Sand Diego girls are. That being said, the girls from San Diego come from and likely still reside in the worst barrios of Medellin and have thievery in their blood and will rob you at the first chance they get. I actually got robbed by a chic one night during a ménage a trois and then took her again the next night because I just had to fuck her. LOL. Lunna Lunera is an overpriced shithole with ugly girls that is both the worst value for the peso and has the nastiest putas. My suggestion is to avoid that place.

The hitman: highclass hooker analogy—I really wanted to fuck some model types but struck out. Looking for high class semi-pro hoes is akin to looking for a hitman. Everybody knows that assassins exist but trying to parachute into a foreign location and find one in a few days with no connections is damn near impossible. I assume that if one were to wonder around Brighton Beach eventually the " I know a guy who knows a guy" might pan out but your not going to go from inquiry to confirmed whack in eight hours. Same shit with semi-pro type models from Medellin. The fact is that there are hot girls in Medellin—some of which may even be avail—but access to such women is normally limited to the local elite and monied expats (not tourists). I have since gotten a number from a Colombian guy sitting next to me at the Hilton bar in CTG who felt insulted when I said that the hookers in Colombia were not that good looking. We'll see what pans out.

Regular Girls: The desirable ones are a tough nut to crack with or without Spanish skills. I was shocked that virtually nobody speaks English in Colombia. Even the upper-class broads and the people that have lived in the USA for a year or two. They don't learn it in school? In places like Romania or fuck, even Uzbekistan, the girls virtually all speak English. Hell, in Romania one can be in the middle of BFE and stop at a gas station and the clerk will understand English. I saw a bunch of gringos around Medellin and I didn't see one with a top-notch broad. I came to the conclusion that the only way to meet decent Colombian women is to be introduced by a Colombian. Funny story, I went to barrio Colombia and barely got into the place where I was supposed to meet a girl and her friends. I sat at the bar and people basically just kinda ignored me. I smiled at the friends—but didn't know it yet- of the girl and they returned a very tentative half-hearted smile. When the girl—a cousin of the attendant at the Lounge in Miami—came up to me and introduced herself and brought me to the table of the friends the mood turned on a dime and a good and engaging time was had by all. Add to this that Colombians are VERY classist so you'd better advertise yourself appropriately or run the risk of being iced out.

DD[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DirkDingy]The hitman: highclass hooker analogy—I really wanted to fuck some model types but struck out. Looking for high class semi-pro hoes is akin to looking for a hitman. Everybody knows that assassins exist but trying to parachute into a foreign location and find one in a few days with no connections is damn near impossible. I assume that if one were to wonder around Brighton Beach eventually the " I know a guy who knows a guy" might pan out but your not going to go from inquiry to confirmed whack in eight hours. Same shit with semi-pro type models from Medellin. The fact is that there are hot girls in Medellin—some of which may even be avail—but access to such women is normally limited to the local elite and monied expats (not tourists). I have since gotten a number from a Colombian guy sitting next to me at the Hilton bar in CTG who felt insulted when I said that the hookers in Colombia were not that good looking. We'll see what pans out.

Regular Girls: The desirable ones are a tough nut to crack with or without Spanish skills. I was shocked that virtually nobody speaks English in Colombia. Even the upper-class broads and the people that have lived in the USA for a year or two. They don't learn it in school? In places like Romania or fuck, even Uzbekistan, the girls virtually all speak English. Hell, in Romania one can be in the middle of BFE and stop at a gas station and the clerk will understand English. I saw a bunch of gringos around Medellin and I didn't see one with a top-notch broad. I came to the conclusion that the only way to meet decent Colombian women is to be introduced by a Colombian. Funny story, I went to barrio Colombia and barely got into the place where I was supposed to meet a girl and her friends. I sat at the bar and people basically just kinda ignored me. I smiled at the friends—but didn't know it yet- of the girl and they returned a very tentative half-hearted smile. When the girl—a cousin of the attendant at the Lounge in Miami—came up to me and introduced herself and brought me to the table of the friends the mood turned on a dime and a good and engaging time was had by all. Add to this that Colombians are VERY classist so you'd better advertise yourself appropriately or run the risk of being iced out.[/QUOTE]Dirk, please check out my other response to your report in the other thread with regards to strategies for keeping the non-pros in the dark about your p4p activities.

I also noticed in the other thread your interest in "high-end" p4p, the top-looking girls we all fantasize about when we think of Colombia. There have been some ideas tossed around in this board in the past that I can bring up again. Keep in mind though, your Spanish skills MUST be proficient if you expect to get inside the high-end world and gain the confidence of the women who will present you the hottest girls.

First of all, would you like to try Cali? There's a high-end agency there called "Las Profesionales" or "Amantes del Deseo" that while very expensive, does provide what you're looking for. It's also for the most part a "what you see is what you get" agency although be careful with the faces (see below).

I had two girls from this agency from a trip a few years back. One girl was an absolute stunner (for my taste) with the huge silicones (if that's your thing; I enjoy it, but I only look for it half the time at most and I readily admit the size of these sili-hooters has gotten ridiculous in recent years). The second girl also had an amazing body (huge sili-boobs again and an ass that makes you drool, exactly like the ones you see in the popular YouTube vids of the Miss Cola beauty contests that are common down there in the Cali area), but alas the face was one of those you'd want to put a bag on. Still, I enjoyed it very much once she was in doggy. ;)

Prices at this agency go from 160K cop to millions. I paid around 280K for an hour if I remember (back then the rate was 2300 to the dollar, so it wasn't that bad, and it was before the Great Recession which has hit me harder than I anticipated unfortunately). Pricey, but at my income level, it won't break the bank, even with today's lousy exchange rate (unless you do this every day). You might be able to get a better rate for an evening out with the girl.

There is no similar agency that I know of in MDE. However, if any of those hot model shows or certain types of beauty pageants (the car audio shows and Miss Cola contests you can see on You Tube, etc.) are around in the area, talk to the promoters or managers of the event. Again, you need good Spanish skills here. Begin as usual by asking about these kinds of shows, massage their egos, then just say casually "off-the-cuff" how beautiful you think the women are and how you've always wondered what it would be like "pasar una noche rica" (spend a pleasant evening) with one of them. He'll get your point without having to spell it out in case he's not that kind of go-to guy who will introduce you to the girls/madame.

In a hot nightclub that seems to have prepagas partying around, have the security guy or bartender introduce you to the promoter or manager of the place. That's how you network your way in. I think that works better than the cold approach as some of these prepagas might be "off-duty" (just partying) or "taken" by a local, so you definitely don't want to be the stereotypical "clumsy gringo" getting into awkward situations.

I know this sounds ridiculous but if I spot a suspected prepaga at a disco (hot looking chicks showing off their huge siliboobs usually by themselves or with another slutty looking chick), I've had 1-out-of-3 success doing the old "I think my watch is off" cold approach. While we're verifying that my nice expensive watch has the correct time, I tell her discreetly to meet me later at the bar if she's free and wants to talk more. Then just walk away to the other side and do something completely different (e.g., go dance for awhile) like your interaction was nothing special. Be sure to really have the watch off by 15-20 min just in case she's not a prepaga and/or not an idiot. Most of the girls will just laugh at you but just laugh back with them and say see you later (you never know). I don't like cold approaches, I tend to be a reserved shy type of guy so I've never grown comfortable with them but 1 out of 3 ain't bad for a guy who's not naturally good at this stuff. You don't need a brilliant entry line, you just need any bs excuse to get your message out there that you're looking for p4p while not making it obvious.

As for the promoters, you might get further if you're with some local Colombiano friends. These promoter types might not open up to the lonely (maybe also a bit weird, lol!) gringo monger asking too many questions. :) You mentioned this aspect of "social proof" yourself in your report. In the 2nd paragraph I quoted, you wrote how the group changed its attitude once one of their members vouched for you. By the way, going alone to bars & clubs is a pretty big no-no down there; don't do that anymore, that's considered weird at best. Unless you're strictly after the prepagas, you'll almost definitely need to go out with your Colombian buddies. And NEVER try to hunt prepagas and non-pros at the same time. That's asking for a disaster; if you're busted by the non-pros it's game over the rest of your trip.

As for the English thing, I don't understand how you could be "shocked" by that? What were you thinking? This is South America, NOT Eastern Europe or the 'stans. I'm actually thankful English is not common down there, I'd start to worry if I notice more people speaking back to me in Ingles.

I think Bibiana is one of the high maintenance girls in Casa Blanca. She keeps herself looking Imaculate all the time.

Honestly I think she is a bit of user. Not that other girls are not but IMHO she tilts more towards a pro who is beautiful in her own ways.

When I had her I knew what to expect and I was ready to dish out the extra cash for a live natural Lesbian show. If you were to ask me if i would repeat with her my reply would be sure for ST and not TLN.

Regards,

John

[QUOTE=Joe Six Pack]Hello thanks for the advice, these are some of her pictures from her profile, I do not mind a 3 some with Bibiana, Does she look the same in person ?

[url]http://www.romancelatina.com/es/member/profile.php?profile_id=1987205&s_list=183357&res_num=1[/url][/QUOTE]

I'm on Crc 70 near the Metro station Thursday afternoon in Laureles. It is around 3 pm when all at once this fierce lighting storm kicks up with very high winds and driving rain. A huge tree falls across the street on a cab. This blocked the road and traffic was tied up. By now the streets are flooded and then all at once it starts hailing. A guy told me he has lived in MDE for 24 years and never did it hail.

I like the atmosphere of this area. Very good resturants that are not as expensive as Poblado and no hills to walk up and down.

I was doing 2 new girls a night, but now I have hooked up with my 3 regulars so I will cut down to one a night as I'm sure my back and balls will thank me.

Yesterday (Friday) was no rain, but of course I lugged my unbrella around all day. Maybe that is the answer, bring the unbrella and it will not rain.

So far I have met some new guys staying at different parts of the city and all have turned out to be good guys. I love sitting at a table on the Strip with a few guys and reviewing the talent as it walks by.

Everday I learn some new Spanish and different things about this place I call Pussy Central.

Dirk, how hard is it to get the girls from the strip club to meet after work. I would think you would session first, so they are comfortable with you, and then get their number so you can avoid the bar fine.

I was just wondering what site has hotter girls from Colombia?

I want to join one of them, but I'm not sure yet.

Cheers

[QUOTE=Helprules]Dirk, how hard is it to get the girls from the strip club to meet after work. I would think you would session first, so they are comfortable with you, and then get their number so you can avoid the bar fine.[/QUOTE]Most girls arent allowed to have phones on the floor when they are working. I usually write my number down on a couple peices of paper and slip it to them later. I really hate calling girls, im conceited like that. If they call me i like their initiative. Understand the door men and waiters are casually watching these girls like hawks. They know most of these girls trick after hours, but they would rather get an exit fee.

Be discreet when changing info.

If you subscribe to the Forum, you could get PM's and I'm sure a lot of guys would answer your questions. Romance latina is a sure thing.

[QUOTE=Assman666]I was just wondering what site has hotter girls from Colombia?
I want to join one of them, but I'm not sure yet.

Cheers[/QUOTE]Why do you like to pay for dating? There are many free dating web sites: Tagged, Badoo, hi5, MySpace, LatinSolteros, etc.etc. I use them and I get many replies.

Hi, I like to share my experience. This time I have chatted with many peruvian and colombian girls in Colombia and Peru on some dating web sites. I have noticed peruvian girls are much more responsive than colombian girls.

Peruvian girls like much more to speak with gringos. It is a pleasure to chat with them. Colombian girls are cold and uninterested. They seem to be frightened.

I have seen many pictures of peruvian and I can tell you many are wonderful the same than colombian girls.

This is my experience with regular girls.

[QUOTE=Helprules]Dirk, how hard is it to get the girls from the strip club to meet after work. I would think you would session first, so they are comfortable with you, and then get their number so you can avoid the bar fine.[/QUOTE]Not hard at all. They are more than glad to do it, especially if you take them to the room on site at least once . The only negatives are #1) It gets quite late and if you are willing to waiting that long it is worth it.#2) I have no solid reason for why but I have heard of several (mostly San Diego chicas) trying to or successfully robbing clients.

I'm a guy who has zero health care in the USA, so I try to get any medical help I need in Latin Americia. The other day I ran into Parcero in one of the downtown Casa's. He was running a tour for a couple of new guys and we all hung out for a while. Today I needed help medically and I called Parcero and He hooked me up with a Doctor in Poblado. This doctor speaks very good English which is a good thing for me as in medical matters you like to be sure there are no mis- understandings.The funny thing about this incident was that I offered to pay for his help if he would take me to a clinic or hospital, but instead he just hooked me up with no charge. I guess the next beer is on me.

[QUOTE=John]My friend not only she is a PFP her preference is more towards women. She just does PFP with you for the Gringo Dollar.

If you ask her she would love to give you a Lesbian show with another friend of hers. Although the show gets quiet expensive but it is worth seeing live natural show of two lesbian girls having sex.

I arranged one of these shows in my last visit and right after the show I was so horny that I banged these girls hard core.

Regards,

John[/QUOTE]I will be arriving in Medellin on October 27 and staying for 2 weeks.

Big Risa

[QUOTE=Helprules]Dirk, how hard is it to get the girls from the strip club to meet after work. I would think you would session first, so they are comfortable with you, and then get their number so you can avoid the bar fine.[/QUOTE]Easy, but it depends on how lazy, desperate, and drugged out they are and how much money you offer. you can also meet them b4 work too.

[QUOTE=Assman666]I was just wondering what site has hotter girls from Colombia?

I want to join one of them, but I'm not sure yet.

Cheers[/QUOTE]For Colombia there are more girls to choose from on colombiancupid - I just compared LAC to CC with a Medellin search for attractive girls (by their rating) only, 30 yo or younger, active within the past week only, and 5 foot 8 and under and 140 lbs or under, and photos only of course. For this search CC returned 930 hits while LAC only returned 296. But the average quality for this search seems about the same.

I am currently only a paying member of LAC because I also hunt in other countries like Peru and Dominican Republic and my response rate from the paisas on LAC seems more than good enough.

Disregard the numbers on my last report. Mistakenly my ColombiaCupid search was all of Colombia, not just Medellin. For Medellin only for the same criteria I got under 200 hits! So it looks to me like LAC is more popular than CC and the better value.

[QUOTE=John]I think Bibiana is one of the high maintenance girls in Casa Blanca. She keeps herself looking Imaculate all the time.

Honestly I think she is a bit of user. Not that other girls are not but IMHO she tilts more towards a pro who is beautiful in her own ways.

When I had her I knew what to expect and I was ready to dish out the extra cash for a live natural Lesbian show. If you were to ask me if i would repeat with her my reply would be sure for ST and not TLN.

Regards,

John[/QUOTE]She wasn't like that when she started 1.5 years ago, but yeah, she is getting a bit high maintenance. Not sure what everyone sees in her to keep repeating. LOL

[QUOTE=Phunluv]Dirk, please check out my other response to your report in the other thread with regards to strategies for keeping the non-pros in the dark about your p4p activities.

I also noticed in the other thread your interest in "high-end" p4p, the top-looking girls we all fantasize about when we think of Colombia. There have been some ideas tossed around in this board in the past that I can bring up again. Keep in mind though, your Spanish skills MUST be proficient if you expect to get inside the high-end world and gain the confidence of the women who will present you the hottest girls.

First of all, would you like to try Cali? There's a high-end agency there called "Las Profesionales" or "Amantes del Deseo" that while very expensive, does provide what you're looking for. It's also for the most part a "what you see is what you get" agency although be careful with the faces (see below).

I had two girls from this agency from a trip a few years back. One girl was an absolute stunner (for my taste) with the huge silicones (if that's your thing; I enjoy it, but I only look for it half the time at most and I readily admit the size of these sili-hooters has gotten ridiculous in recent years). The second girl also had an amazing body (huge sili-boobs again and an ass that makes you drool, exactly like the ones you see in the popular YouTube vids of the Miss Cola beauty contests that are common down there in the Cali area), but alas the face was one of those you'd want to put a bag on. Still, I enjoyed it very much once she was in doggy. ;)

Prices at this agency go from 160K cop to millions. I paid around 280K for an hour if I remember (back then the rate was 2300 to the dollar, so it wasn't that bad, and it was before the Great Recession which has hit me harder than I anticipated unfortunately). Pricey, but at my income level, it won't break the bank, even with today's lousy exchange rate (unless you do this every day). You might be able to get a better rate for an evening out with the girl.

There is no similar agency that I know of in MDE. However, if any of those hot model shows or certain types of beauty pageants (the car audio shows and Miss Cola contests you can see on You Tube, etc.) are around in the area, talk to the promoters or managers of the event. Again, you need good Spanish skills here. Begin as usual by asking about these kinds of shows, massage their egos, then just say casually "off-the-cuff" how beautiful you think the women are and how you've always wondered what it would be like "pasar una noche rica" (spend a pleasant evening) with one of them. He'll get your point without having to spell it out in case he's not that kind of go-to guy who will introduce you to the girls/madame.

In a hot nightclub that seems to have prepagas partying around, have the security guy or bartender introduce you to the promoter or manager of the place. That's how you network your way in. I think that works better than the cold approach as some of these prepagas might be "off-duty" (just partying) or "taken" by a local, so you definitely don't want to be the stereotypical "clumsy gringo" getting into awkward situations.

I know this sounds ridiculous but if I spot a suspected prepaga at a disco (hot looking chicks showing off their huge siliboobs usually by themselves or with another slutty looking chick), I've had 1-out-of-3 success doing the old "I think my watch is off" cold approach. While we're verifying that my nice expensive watch has the correct time, I tell her discreetly to meet me later at the bar if she's free and wants to talk more. Then just walk away to the other side and do something completely different (e.g., go dance for awhile) like your interaction was nothing special. Be sure to really have the watch off by 15-20 min just in case she's not a prepaga and/or not an idiot. Most of the girls will just laugh at you but just laugh back with them and say see you later (you never know). I don't like cold approaches, I tend to be a reserved shy type of guy so I've never grown comfortable with them but 1 out of 3 ain't bad for a guy who's not naturally good at this stuff. You don't need a brilliant entry line, you just need any bs excuse to get your message out there that you're looking for p4p while not making it obvious.

As for the promoters, you might get further if you're with some local Colombiano friends. These promoter types might not open up to the lonely (maybe also a bit weird, lol!) gringo monger asking too many questions. :) You mentioned this aspect of "social proof" yourself in your report. In the 2nd paragraph I quoted, you wrote how the group changed its attitude once one of their members vouched for you. By the way, going alone to bars & clubs is a pretty big no-no down there; don't do that anymore, that's considered weird at best. Unless you're strictly after the prepagas, you'll almost definitely need to go out with your Colombian buddies. And NEVER try to hunt prepagas and non-pros at the same time. That's asking for a disaster; if you're busted by the non-pros it's game over the rest of your trip.

As for the English thing, I don't understand how you could be "shocked" by that? What were you thinking? This is South America, NOT Eastern Europe or the 'stans. I'm actually thankful English is not common down there, I'd start to worry if I notice more people speaking back to me in Ingles.[/QUOTE]Your advice is intrepid and your posts reveal a deep understanding of the game. I doth tip my cover to you. I'd love to monger with you.

If only I spoke Spainish.

[QUOTE=FoxesHunter]Hi, I like to share my experience. This time I have chatted with many peruvian and colombian girls in Colombia and Peru on some dating web sites. I have noticed peruvian girls are much more responsive than colombian girls.

Peruvian girls like much more to speak with gringos. It is a pleasure to chat with them. Colombian girls are cold and uninterested. They seem to be frightened.

I have seen many pictures of peruvian and I can tell you many are wonderful the same than colombian girls.

This is my experience with regular girls.[/QUOTE]There are beautiful girls in both countries, I find you have to search a little harder for the stunners in Peru but they are plentiful. Much better food 10 fold in Peru. I get just as much "love" from the Colombianas as I do from the Peruanas, so I don't know wtf your gift of gab consists of.

Hi eveyone!

I'm not here to start a controversial conversation, mainly I want an objective answer, I am a Tijuana Local and I've been to la zona since I was 18 and love doing it, rescently I've been invited to go to Colombia, I have a friend who has family there and knowing that its a main tourist atraction to us mongers I have to ask, is there anyone who has visited both Tijuana and Medellin who can give me an objective opinion on what to expect?

I know that somethings would be better and other worse, I don't want a competition thing here were Tijuana mongers say one thing and Medellin mongers another, has someone really, been to both places and tell me the pro and const of the two?

I can be PMed if you wih.

Thanks al.

I cant speak as far as Peruvian girls,, but the Colombian girls I have had, and I have had my share, are anything but frighned or non-responsive. They have been great.

[QUOTE=FoxesHunter]Hi, I like to share my experience. This time I have chatted with many peruvian and colombian girls in Colombia and Peru on some dating web sites. I have noticed peruvian girls are much more responsive than colombian girls.

Peruvian girls like much more to speak with gringos. It is a pleasure to chat with them. Colombian girls are cold and uninterested. They seem to be frightened.

I have seen many pictures of peruvian and I can tell you many are wonderful the same than colombian girls.

This is my experience with regular girls.[/QUOTE]

I'm really getting a negative vibe about colombia. I am reading that they will rob you, and a lot of them are cold. Is this a small percentage. Are most of the strippers at the main 3 clubs cold and mechanical? I'm used to brazilian girls with their - you treat me well and I will treat you well attitude. Can you get strippers after or before work for 150k pesos.

Just heard that a favorita from a couple of trips ago is now hanging at Donde Aquellos. I had met her at one of the El centro clubs.

Where is this place, and what is it like?

Wuz up,

I used to live in San Diego, California, but I now live in Medellin. I have experience with both cities in questions. Colombian girls are by far better looking than mexican women. Better looking faces and much better bodies. European features are common among the women in Medellin. On the other hand, Mexican women look like indians (native americans).

As far as mongering, it is much cheaper to monger in Colombia than in TJ. The quality of the working girls varies depending on the establishment.

[QUOTE=Jim0129]Hi eveyone!

I'm not here to start a controversial conversation, mainly I want an objective answer, I am a Tijuana Local and I've been to la zona since I was 18 and love doing it, rescently I've been invited to go to Colombia, I have a friend who has family there and knowing that its a main tourist atraction to us mongers I have to ask, is there anyone who has visited both Tijuana and Medellin who can give me an objective opinion on what to expect?

I know that somethings would be better and other worse, I don't want a competition thing here were Tijuana mongers say one thing and Medellin mongers another, has someone really, been to both places and tell me the pro and const of the two?

I can be PMed if you wih.

Thanks al.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=You Can]I cant speak as far as Peruvian girls,, but the Colombian girls I have had, and I have had my share, are anything but frighned or non-responsive. They have been great.[/QUOTE]May be you are beautiful and young instead of me, I am beautiful but I'm 50 years old.

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver]Just about every girl on that site is a prepago, has money coming in from all angles. You could be just another western union novio to go along with her Colombian boyfriend. Lets see, 20yr old girl, no job but has new implants and can afford 20k per day to go to Club Body Tech?(hypothetical) p.s. though, Her pics and scenario scream prepago anyways.

Good Luck![/QUOTE]As far as I know, Bibiana's tits are the real deal. Not implants (at least when I saw her last year) Someone mentioned why guys repeat with her, perhaps that's two reasons. By now, she's probably 23 y.o. though.

[QUOTE=Helprules]I'm really getting a negative vibe about colombia. I am reading that they will rob you, and a lot of them are cold. Is this a small percentage. Are most of the strippers at the main 3 clubs cold and mechanical? I'm used to brazilian girls with their - you treat me well and I will treat you well attitude. Can you get strippers after or before work for 150k pesos.[/QUOTE]Although bad things can happen anywhere, but your negative vibe that girls will rob you in Colombia is by no means true for general P4P girls in Colombia. Your second query about service quality at the 3 main clubs. IMHO, I only visit Face Dos to enjoy the atmosphere. I have not had any great sessions at Face Dos. Sandiego show another club has reasonable looking girls and they provide service 6/10.

As per service quality compared to Brazil. In my opinion difference between Colombian girls and Brazilian girls is that you don't fuck Garotas in Brazil instead they fuck you real good. Let's say the best experience you will have in Colombia can be very close to your Brazilian experience.

I don't go to Brazil in recent years because it has gone way too expensive. First travel time is much more and then Reais appreciated alot.

Regards,

John

[QUOTE=Helprules]I'm really getting a negative vibe about colombia. I am reading that they will rob you, and a lot of them are cold. Is this a small percentage. Are most of the strippers at the main 3 clubs cold and mechanical? I'm used to brazilian girls with their - you treat me well and I will treat you well attitude. Can you get strippers after or before work for 150k pesos.[/QUOTE]It would be unwise to draw the conclusion that you appear to be drawing. Colombia is a great place with great girls. It's darn foolish to leave a wad of 100 dollar bills within eyesight of a poor barrio girl; the person who did so should learn or (relearn) his lesson

I was rather lackadaisical in my conduct because as of late the only time I routinely pay for hookers for a night is in Dubai where the girls are scared silly of ever robbing a client. These Colombian girls are tough cookies and not scared of the Colombian police or a punk gringo like me. If fact, one of the chicks even called the police on me that night for refusing to pay her after her friend stole a bunch of money from me. "Well, yes, I did not give you the 180k pesos because your friend has a wad of my 100s in her purse. " With Boyd's help, the girl admitted to stealing from me and the situation just devolved and faded away. It was never really confrontational nor threatening for any of the parties. The police shook my hand and chatted for a bit and the girl hugged me before she left. This kinda shit happens when you deal with poor hookers if you don't take precautions.

As to girls being cold. Do you expect GFE during an initial 40 minute on-site fuck? Really. It happens but it's not the norm.

I had great service on-site at Facie Dos with one of the chicas but I think it was because it was my second night there and I bought the chick about five lady drinks, some smokes, had her drinking from my bottle of rum, and tipped her and her friends in 5k, 10k and, 20k notes. In other words I built a rapport with her and could tell that she was comfortable with and was attracted to me. Not just instructing the waiter to have her brought to the rooms next door after ogling her on stage. A nice and generous guy enabling a stripper to enjoy a successful day at the office gets better service than one who does not. At least this is the rule-of-thumb.

And yes, unfortunately, strippers at strip clubs, all too often judge a guy based upon how much money he puts in her pocket through lady drinks and tips.

Yes, you can get girls before or after work for about 150k +20K for taxi fare but the better looking ones asked me for a bit more.

DD

[QUOTE=Jim0129]Hi eveyone!

I'm not here to start a controversial conversation, mainly I want an objective answer, I am a Tijuana Local and I've been to la zona since I was 18 and love doing it, recently I've been invited to go to Colombia, I have a friend who has family there and knowing that its a main tourist atraction to us mongers I have to ask, is there anyone who has visited both Tijuana and Medellin who can give me an objective opinion on what to expect?

I know that somethings would be better and other worse, I don't want a competition thing here were Tijuana mongers say one thing and Medellin mongers another, has someone really, been to both places and tell me the pro and const of the two?

I can be PMed if you wih.

Thanks al.[/QUOTE]I agree with what TS wrote.

I live in southern California and am in Tijuana once or twice a month. The ladies of MDE, on a whole are better looking, with nicer bodies. The are more apt to give you good service on the first session. The cost is also less in MDE than Tijuana. There are many levels to the scene in MDE. Agency's, Loutron's, Fase Dos, San Diego, Centro clubs, Mayorista. Speaking Spanish is much more important in MDE, since few speak English at all. IMJ, this is good, even though my Spanish is Kindergarten at best. I count on my other skills.

That being said, with you being a local, you know that there are many VGL ladies in Tijuana. The more one is in Tijuana the easier it is to have good sessions, with VGL ladies. There are SG's that are VGL for half the cost of bar girls. I have been with some stunners in Tijuana, as much for the experience as the ride. IMO, usually the stunners may not be the best performers, especially when there are fewer of them around.

Although MDE has become my favorite mongering destination, I am very glad that I have Tijuana a couple of hours from my house.

Health & happiness to all.

[QUOTE=Almotu]As far as I know, Bibiana's tits are the real deal. Not implants (at least when I saw her last year) Someone mentioned why guys repeat with her, perhaps that's two reasons. By now, she's probably 23 y.o. though.[/QUOTE]She's still 20. the tits are absolutely real, and lots of guys repeat because the experience is spectacular!

[QUOTE=Helprules]I'm really getting a negative vibe about colombia. I am reading that they will rob you, and a lot of them are cold. Is this a small percentage. Are most of the strippers at the main 3 clubs cold and mechanical? I'm used to brazilian girls with their - you treat me well and I will treat you well attitude. Can you get strippers after or before work for 150k pesos.[/QUOTE]Great fun to be had in Colombia at his moment in time. You're asking the kind of questions that only you can answer by going there and seeing for yourself.

Just go. If Medellin turns out to be too much of a down-market dump for you, then just don't go back for more.

[QUOTE=TweedleD]She's still 20. the tits are absolutely real, and lots of guys repeat because the experience is spectacular![/QUOTE]Bibiana has not changed a t all. Her tits and her body is great and she knows how to work it. I had rented an apartment in Las Palmas and she came over last friday an hour after I arrived. She left Monday about 5:00 in the afternoon because I told her I was returning to the states on Tuesday.She made home for herself here and she even told me if she leaves that I will have a new girl with me within the hour, which is what I wanted. At least she believed me about my return to States. She was really pissed at me in June when I saw her and told her after the first night she had to leave. Now I have Diana over and I will tell her I am leaving early because she thinks I should spend all of my time with her also. I will tell her in a couple days that I am leaving so I can play as Medellin is a playground that I enjoy every two months.

[QUOTE=TweedleD]She's still 20. the tits are absolutely real, and lots of guys repeat because the experience is spectacular![/QUOTE]"the experience is spectacular!" What does this mean? Many have said she is a bit on the "high maintenance" side.

[QUOTE=Hioctane]"the experience is spectacular!" What does this mean? Many have said she is a bit on the "high maintenance" side.[/QUOTE]spec·tac·u·lar (spk-tky-lr)

adj.

Of the nature of a spectacle; impressive or sensational.

Is there any body with a good recommendation about a swingerclub in MED? Is is for this saterday.

And an idea which girl I can ask to join me?

Thanks in advance

Well, we've been having a nice couple of days with the skies opening up after what has been months of almost non-stop rain. I took these snaps from my novia's apartment in Envigado. I just couldn't resist the view and I thought I would share it with those who are making plans on visiting soon.

My time is almost up as I've spent 12 of the past 14 months in Medellin. I know that I have been a little hard on the non-pro chicas here but after learning the ropes, I can say that I have a different. More open-minded view.

While your regular (non-pro) paisas tend to be a notch more difficult than Colombianas in other cities, there are still plentiful of opportunities to be had. In a way, since there are so many of them who are by the same token so beautiful, you have to give it to them for being the way that they are. LOL! Especially when compared to the she-males we have to deal with back in the Pussy Prison.

One last thing, it is also true that a good percentage of the poorer ones can be had for a varying price. A reliable cab driver mentioned to me the other night that he could introduce me to his wife's nieces of 19, 20 and 21 years of age to go party and hook-up with. I found that to be so amazing. LOL!

I will say to you what a classical salsa song says: "ven a Medellin, ven a Medellin."

Who deigns to maintain her? Besides me I mean? If you don't maintain her, then what is the significance of her high maintenance? If you don't maintain her, then presumably you are paying for un polvo, and the price is the negotiated price. If you decide to take her shopping, or spend the weekend with her, that's your decision, and presumably the maintenance is worth it to you. To me, and just to me, the bottom line with Bibiana is that she is truly beautiful, and P4P. When guys take up this hobby, their ideal is close to Bibiana, that is physically she is your dream girl. Really mentally she is not far off either, but you have to be able to communicate with her. One guy asked if she was as good looking as her pictures, and the answer is she is better looking. She has a sense of humor, great provider, my only advice would be to think about her, so to speak, and do what you can to get her off, with a vibrator, another woman, or what have you. She likes that! She is a nice person, and beautiful, and real, and it costs less than $100 to realize your dreams with her.

Saturday night at Fase II was happening. I went after midnight and the cover was 10,000. I tried talking the my way out of it but no go. Inside, the drinks are reasonably priced and the ambiance is quite good, similar to most US strip clubs but not as nice as the high end clubs in Mexico.

Walked around till I found an 8 with natural tits. Beautiful face and very nice body. She also had nice disposition. Took her to the room for one hour. She performed well in all aspects except that she did not do BBBJ. When I told her that I am very clean she said, "all guys say that they are very clean". I thought that was funny. Anyway, she spent a full hour with me and let me smoke her Cripa. For, 150,000 I was happy.

I went on a Monday and the place was dead. I almost took a 9 face and a 7 body to the room but when the guy told me his conversion rate for USD to CO pesos, I bailed. I guess I was looking for an excuse.

Hi al, hope I am posting this in the right area but if not I apologize. I wanted to know if the Medellin Mansion was still around.

I remember reading up on the place and it was an option I was thinking about back in 09. I checked the website again but it is now called casa blanca.

Is this the same place and if so do they still have girls onsite as I read about in 09.

PM me if anyone has any new info.

Thanks,

Kozak

I am taking my first trip to Medelin and will be staying from October 27 to November 11. Looking for someone to hang with.

Big Risa

[quote=chesrep001]who deigns to maintain her? besides me i mean? if you don't maintain her, then what is the significance of her high maintenance? if you don't maintain her, then presumably you are paying for un polvo, and the price is the negotiated price. if you decide to take her shopping, or spend the weekend with her, that's your decision, and presumably the maintenance is worth it to you. to me, and just to me, the bottom line with bibiana is that she is truly beautiful, and p4p. when guys take up this hobby, their ideal is close to bibiana, that is physically she is your dream girl. really mentally she is not far off either, but you have to be able to communicate with her. one guy asked if she was as good looking as her pictures, and the answer is she is better looking. she has a sense of humor, great provider, my only advice would be to think about her, so to speak, and do what you can to get her off, with a vibrator, another woman, or what have you. she likes that! she is a nice person, and beautiful, and real, and it costs less than $100 to realize your dreams with her.[/quote]sounds good. how can i get in touch with her. the website latinromance will not work for me (not internet access after tomorrow). can i arrange her when i'm in the mansion (casa blanca)? will be there this saturday (from 16.00) and sunday?

[QUOTE=Kozak]Hi al, hope I am posting this in the right area but if not I apologize. I wanted to know if the Medellin Mansion was still around.

I remember reading up on the place and it was an option I was thinking about back in 09. I checked the website again but it is now called casa blanca.

Is this the same place and if so do they still have girls onsite as I read about in 09.

PM me if anyone has any new info.

Thanks,

Kozak[/QUOTE]What about RTFF? Just use the "search" function!

Medellin Mansion and El Castillo are now called Casa Blanca 1 and 2 respectively. Place and owners are same just change in name nothing different.

Regards,

John

[QUOTE=Kozak]Hi al, hope I am posting this in the right area but if not I apologize. I wanted to know if the Medellin Mansion was still around.

I remember reading up on the place and it was an option I was thinking about back in 09. I checked the website again but it is now called casa blanca.

Is this the same place and if so do they still have girls onsite as I read about in 09.

PM me if anyone has any new info.

Thanks,

Kozak[/QUOTE]

I would never tolerate a girl that does not bbbj, she wants the money but wants to do the job half ass. No way. I rarely have this happen and when I tell them were done they will always do it, if not then I tell them its over. Simple as that. I do not tolerate that bullshit.

[QUOTE=Vitrea]Saturday night at Fase II was happening. I went after midnight and the cover was 10,000. I tried talking the my way out of it but no go. Inside, the drinks are reasonably priced and the ambiance is quite good, similar to most US strip clubs but not as nice as the high end clubs in Mexico.

Walked around till I found an 8 with natural tits. Beautiful face and very nice body. She also had nice disposition. Took her to the room for one hour. She performed well in all aspects except that she did not do BBBJ. When I told her that I am very clean she said, "all guys say that they are very clean". I thought that was funny. Anyway, she spent a full hour with me and let me smoke her Cripa. For, 150,000 I was happy.

I went on a Monday and the place was dead. I almost took a 9 face and a 7 body to the room but when the guy told me his conversion rate for USD to CO pesos, I bailed. I guess I was looking for an excuse.[/QUOTE]

I just came back home from Medellin. I had a great time. I had my fair share of prostitutes, but I also met some local girls thanks to this local american who does girl tours around the city. He introduced me to all the good looking girls I spotted on our tour and he was also as my translator at the same time. My goal is to send a girl here to New Orleans at some point and I got plenty of contacts thanks to Jake. Here's his website if anybody is interested.

[url]http://www.colombiajake.com/[/url]

It was well worth the $35 a night to have a sidekick who knew how to open up a conversation with these girls.

KL

Kozak,

Yes MM changed their name to CasaBlanca I. And sister house El Castillo is now Casa Blanca II. Both are a bit more tame than they used to be, but the idea is the same. Still a great time in a nice setting with fellow mongers around.

[QUOTE=Kozak]Hi al, hope I am posting this in the right area but if not I apologize. I wanted to know if the Medellin Mansion was still around.

I remember reading up on the place and it was an option I was thinking about back in 09. I checked the website again but it is now called casa blanca.

Is this the same place and if so do they still have girls onsite as I read about in 09.

PM me if anyone has any new info.

Thanks,

Kozak[/QUOTE]Everythings the same, just some small changes ea name change, people laying low. Check out the Casa Blanca thread.

[QUOTE=Big Risa]I am taking my first trip to Medelin and will be staying from October 27 to November 11. Looking for someone to hang with.

Big Risa[/QUOTE]Post this in the Trip Announcements thread as well. Try a "casa blanca or hostel style place" to find someone to hang out with. Better yet just go to Parque Lleras you'll find all the gringos you want consolidated into 6 square blocks.

LOL

[quote=chesrep001]who deigns to maintain her? besides me i mean? if you don't maintain her, then what is the significance of her high maintenance? if you don't maintain her, then presumably you are paying for un polvo, and the price is the negotiated price. if you decide to take her shopping, or spend the weekend with her, that's your decision, and presumably the maintenance is worth it to you. to me, and just to me, the bottom line with bibiana is that she is truly beautiful, and p4p. when guys take up this hobby, their ideal is close to bibiana, that is physically she is your dream girl. really mentally she is not far off either, but you have to be able to communicate with her. one guy asked if she was as good looking as her pictures, and the answer is she is better looking. she has a sense of humor, great provider, my only advice would be to think about her, so to speak, and do what you can to get her off, with a vibrator, another woman, or what have you. she likes that! she is a nice person, and beautiful, and real, and it costs less than $100 to realize your dreams with her.[/quote]you can choose to "maintain her" or "call her" how ever or whatever you want, just make sure at the end of the day you don't forget what she is. a prepago with many novios from all countries. that's not saying that treating them well won't get you a much better gfe because it almost always does.

[quote=chesrep001]who deigns to maintain her? besides me i mean? if you don't maintain her, then what is the significance of her high maintenance? if you don't maintain her, then presumably you are paying for un polvo, and the price is the negotiated price. if you decide to take her shopping, or spend the weekend with her, that's your decision, and presumably the maintenance is worth it to you. to me, and just to me, the bottom line with bibiana is that she is truly beautiful, and p4p. when guys take up this hobby, their ideal is close to bibiana, that is physically she is your dream girl. really mentally she is not far off either, but you have to be able to communicate with her. one guy asked if she was as good looking as her pictures, and the answer is she is better looking. she has a sense of humor, great provider, my only advice would be to think about her, so to speak, and do what you can to get her off, with a vibrator, another woman, or what have you. she likes that! she is a nice person, and beautiful, and real, and it costs less than $100 to realize your dreams with her.[/quote]my point is that there are plenty of hot girls that are not as high maintenance. what is considered not high maintenance? someone that does not expect and ask for gifts. in fact this might cost more in the long run because you end up wanting to give her gifts. to me high maintenance is a big turnoff. it ends up being just a business transaction. heck, i wouldn't put up with it from a real gf, wtf would i want to put up with it from a p4p?

[QUOTE=TweedleD]spec·tac·u·lar (spk-tky-lr)

adj.

Of the nature of a spectacle; impressive or sensational.[/QUOTE]Now that's a spectacular reply for sure! Jejeje.

Guys, this muchacha Bibi is a fun, happy-go-lucky chica.

You treat her nicely, you're going to have great time.

She's only high maintenance if you let her be.

If you take her shopping, etc, she will gladly spend your money.

If you take her and pay her for a only fun short time, she'll take care of ya.

[QUOTE=Hioctane]My point is that there are plenty of hot girls that are not as high maintenance. What is considered NOT high maintenance? Someone that does not expect and ask for gifts. In fact this might cost more in the long run because you end up WANTING to give her gifts. To me high maintenance is a big turnoff. It ends up being just a business transaction. Heck, I wouldn't put up with it from a real GF, WTF would I want to put up with it from a P4P?[/QUOTE]The only gift I ever gave her was a pearl neckless, and that was truly priceless.

[QUOTE=You Can]I would never tolerate a girl that does not bbbj, she wants the money but wants to do the job half ass. No way. I rarely have this happen and when I tell them were done they will always do it, if not then I tell them its over. Simple as that. I do not tolerate that bullshit.[/QUOTE]Good for you my friend. Wish I could be as assertive as you seem to be. I prefer BBBJ but I sometimes settle for what I can get, especially if the chica is hot.

[QUOTE=You Can]I would never tolerate a girl that does not bbbj, she wants the money but wants to do the job half ass. No way. I rarely have this happen and when I tell them were done they will always do it, if not then I tell them its over. Simple as that. I do not tolerate that bullshit.[/QUOTE]I wish it was that simple but its not. Someplaces do ncbj but Medillin is different. Medellin is my new favorite place to monger, but CBJ seem to be the norm. In a way I understand from her standpoint(safety, respect). But I've noticed if you repeat with her a few times they loosen this restriction.

Its best to negoitiate before paying. What are you going to do if she refuses after they have your money? Nothing.

I have two favoritas that work at San Diego who I repeat with frequently for this service.

My point is being hardcore can lead to more problems, so far you have been lucky. Negoitiate before hand.

I didnt mean any offense to you, I just cant deal with that, I am not rude or ignorant to them, but if they dont bbbj, then I have to move on. I want the total package, I believe in condoms for the main deed, for obvious reasons. But a CBJ I cant take even if it was from a super model, to me its a kick in the balls.

Happy Days, and good luck in your travels.

[QUOTE=Vitrea]Good for you my friend. Wish I could be as assertive as you seem to be. I prefer BBBJ but I sometimes settle for what I can get, especially if the chica is hot.[/QUOTE]

Why so much focus here on one girl? I have not met her but from her romancelatina pics sure I agree she is hot, and who knows, I might try her out in November if we meet and seem to make some kind of connection. But the city has thousands of other easy hotties and I can't imagine that she is that amazing or special in performance compared to others. If anything the risk of being with any girl who's so well known and has had miles of gringo cock inside her, is that she may tend to be a bit bored and jaded about the business, it makes me somewhat leery.

Speaking of jaded girls, I met this prepago girl who has really been around, Angie/Lorena (also a romancelatina chica), back in February, the one with tons of pics in the photo gallery. She was a total cold fish, when I realized she was all about money, and she told me she didn't like to kiss, I decided I didn't want to fuck her and just left her a small gift for her time. Not saying Bibi is the same type of girl at all, just an example of the obvious that the girls often do get jaded sooner or later and a girl relatively new to the business with fewer clients is more likely to offer the best GFE.

You Can. Your attitude is a bit harsh IMHO. Not that you don't have the right to ask and say "no thanks" if a chica doesn't offer BBBJ, or anything else that you want for service. That is fine there is always another who will, no problem with that. But I don't think your hard-ass attitude is necessary, I could be mistaken but from your wording in this post you come across as someone who tends to be a bit disrespectful of the girls generally.

I do prefer BBBJ, and got it from 6 out of 7 girls my last trip in August. And the 7th girl was a great performer and GFE in all other respects. One of the other 6 was a follow-up, she was CBJ on the prior trip, at the time I told her "prefiero chupa sin condom" and she said she needed to be more comfortable with a guy first. I thought OK, I really liked her otherwise so hooked up with her again the next trip and this time she offered BBBJ without prompting.

[QUOTE=You Can]I would never tolerate a girl that does not bbbj, she wants the money but wants to do the job half ass. No way. I rarely have this happen and when I tell them were done they will always do it, if not then I tell them its over. Simple as that. I do not tolerate that bullshit.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vitrea]Good for you my friend. Wish I could be as assertive as you seem to be. I prefer BBBJ but I sometimes settle for what I can get, especially if the chica is hot.[/QUOTE]I can't really blame a chica working in a high turnover place, like say a casa chica, wanting to cover it up.

Not a deal breaker for me. I really don't even care, cause I find as a chica gets to know ya, and digs ya a bit all those goodies come and with more gusto.

[QUOTE=Vitrea]Good for you my friend. Wish I could be as assertive as you seem to be. I prefer BBBJ but I sometimes settle for what I can get, especially if the chica is hot.[/QUOTE]"You only get what you play for."

Try and let the novia know you will not be exclusive but will give her all your attention when you are together unless she wants to make you very very happy and bring in another woman of her choice to join the two of you.

[QUOTE=Golfinho]"You only get what you play for."[/QUOTE]Classic - should be the tag line for this forum.

There are a nukber of chicas in Medellin with BIBI as part of there name.

Is it Bibianam?

Thanks,

Mel

Hello,

What is the pricing structure in MDE? - some conflicting reports.

Can you actually get some average lay for $25 USD?

I have also heard of model material for over $100 USD?

Just wanted to know before I spend for the trip; because for that type of money, you might as well stay in the good ol' US of A.

[QUOTE=Cuero99]Speaking of jaded girls, I met this prepago girl who has really been around, Angie/Lorena (also a romancelatina chica), back in February, the one with tons of pics in the photo gallery. She was a total cold fish, when I realized she was all about money, and she told me she didn't like to kiss, I decided I didn't want to fuck her and just left her a small gift for her time. Not saying Bibi is the same type of girl at all, just an example of the obvious that the girls often do get jaded sooner or later and a girl relatively new to the business with fewer clients is more likely to offer the best GFE.[/QUOTE]This Photo is a great one because it's a little insight into who's really getting the GFE and the BBBJ and she probably got him into the club on her dime. I'm gonna keep this photo in my wallet and look at it everytime I start getting soft on a PRO.

Remember, we're all in this together.

Tom Power

[QUOTE=Runner Up]Thanks for your help. She is claiming to be a non p4p. I'll keep it confidential from her so no worries.

Feel free to respond here or I'm in town if anyone wants to pm me.

Thanks[/QUOTE]She looks quite humble, where did you meet her? Romance Latina?

It just depends on the chica, at least in Medellin some of them do have the ability to offer GFE to their customers at the same time having a serious local "significant other" of some sort. As far as Angie/Lorena and myself and what (didn't) happen, maybe she was just going through a down time or in a bad mood when I met her, or just didn't really like me, who knows..as long as I can find chicas that rock my world that's all I care, and my success ratio in Medellin based on that criteria is better than any other place I've mongered so far.

[QUOTE=Tom Power]This Photo is a great one because it's a little insight into who's really getting the GFE and the BBBJ and she probably got him into the club on her dime. I'm gonna keep this photo in my wallet and look at it everytime I start getting soft on a PRO.

Remember, we're all in this together.

Tom Power[/QUOTE]

Hello all,

I posted this question last week...along with the link to her Latin Cupid profile page. Nobody responded. Here it is again:

[url]http://www.latinamericancupid.com/en/profile/showProfile/ID/2478995?searchposition=2&searchtotal=500[/url]

I spent two hours with her in the bar area of the Tiger Paw Hostel. She charged me $15 per hour to be a guide...but we never left the bar. We had a good time...drinking beer and dancing. (Another American--not an ISG member--split the $30 with me. He was amazed at how beautiful she was.)

I did not know how to "politely" broach the subject of whether or not she was a P4P...so I did not bring it up. I did not see her again during my trip.

Does anybody out there have any experience with Darly (she also uses the name Sair..maybe her middle name)?

She sure doesn't look like a neurosurgeon!

[QUOTE=Runner Up]Thanks for your help. She is claiming to be a non p4p. I'll keep it confidential from her so no worries.

Feel free to respond here or I'm in town if anyone wants to pm me.

Thanks[/QUOTE][QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver]She looks quite humble, where did you meet her? Romance Latina?[/QUOTE]Heh, heh. Good one. Judging solely from the pic (I doubt a pure non-pro would pose like that), she's probably done some p4p, yet it's possible she's "off the menu" at the present time. The prepaga phenom is quite common down there; but obviously almost every girl will strongly deny it, it's silly to think they'd do otherwise.

Just assume almost every girl you'll meet has at least dabbled in it. What's the big deal, you're a monger right? We're not exactly choir boys here.

Question.jpg is smoking! I agree with phunluv, and if any hot chica like this one says she is non-prepago maybe she sees in you a bigger fish to fry!

Myself as long as the mutual chemistry is good and sex is great in the end I don't really care whether a girl is "good" or "bad", if hot pussy is to be tapped money must be spent anyway one way or another. I think the keys besides the money to a great experience are does the chica in question actually like you in some way, and does she actually love to fuck? Question.jpg's pose tells me she surely does, good luck Runner Up.

[QUOTE=Phunluv]Heh, heh. Good one. Judging solely from the pic (I doubt a pure non-pro would pose like that), she's probably done some p4p, yet it's possible she's "off the menu" at the present time. The prepaga phenom is quite common down there; but obviously almost every girl will strongly deny it, it's silly to think they'd do otherwise.

Just assume almost every girl you'll meet has at least dabbled in it. What's the big deal, you're a monger right? We're not exactly choir boys here.[/QUOTE]

I don't understand. You mean that you paid this girl $15, or actually $30 counting your friends contribution, but then you just hung out at the bar with her? Why did you give her money if you were only drinking at the hostel bar?

Never saw her before but judging by the photo, she has to be P4P. BTW, in answer to your question, I found several woman in MDE to be coy about their P4P activities even though I was quite certain they were P4P. They were not always straightforward about it. Since there is an outside possibility that she could be just a very sexy girl and not P4P, its probably better to let that question lie and let them come out of the closet, so to speak.

[QUOTE=Robby Burns]Hello all,

I posted this question last week...along with the link to her Latin Cupid profile page. Nobody responded. Here it is again:

[url]http://www.latinamericancupid.com/en/profile/showProfile/ID/2478995?searchposition=2&searchtotal=500[/url]

I spent two hours with her in the bar area of the Tiger Paw Hostel. She charged me $15 per hour to be a guide...but we never left the bar. We had a good time...drinking beer and dancing. (Another American--not an ISG member--split the $30 with me. He was amazed at how beautiful she was.)

I did not know how to "politely" broach the subject of whether or not she was a P4P...so I did not bring it up. I did not see her again during my trip.

Does anybody out there have any experience with Darly (she also uses the name Sair..maybe her middle name)?

She sure doesn't look like a neurosurgeon![/QUOTE]

I'm looking for A University type Gf. I can't speak spanish.

Any chance please help?

I'm dum

This is so true, I love these guys that come on here and are wandering if the girl is a working girl. Every woman in the world is a working girl. There all working some angle, you hit it rite on the head, money must be spent anyway, only difference is you will spend a lot less on an honest working girl, opposed to a supposedly good girl :)

[QUOTE=Cuero99]Question.jpg is smoking! I agree with phunluv, and if any hot chica like this one says she is non-prepago maybe she sees in you a bigger fish to fry!

Myself as long as the mutual chemistry is good and sex is great in the end I don't really care whether a girl is "good" or "bad", if hot pussy is to be tapped money must be spent anyway one way or another. I think the keys besides the money to a great experience are does the chica in question actually like you in some way, and does she actually love to fuck? Question.jpg's pose tells me she surely does, good luck Runner Up.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Robby Burns]Hello all,

I posted this question last week...along with the link to her Latin Cupid profile page. Nobody responded. Here it is again:

[url]http://www.latinamericancupid.com/en/profile/showProfile/ID/2478995?searchposition=2&searchtotal=500[/url]

I spent two hours with her in the bar area of the Tiger Paw Hostel. She charged me $15 per hour to be a guide...but we never left the bar. We had a good time...drinking beer and dancing. (Another American--not an ISG member--split the $30 with me. He was amazed at how beautiful she was.)

I did not know how to "politely" broach the subject of whether or not she was a P4P...so I did not bring it up. I did not see her again during my trip.

Does anybody out there have any experience with Darly (she also uses the name Sair..maybe her middle name)?

She sure doesn't look like a neurosurgeon![/QUOTE]Dude she's a pro - a high priced pro which is why you never saw her agan after she wasted a night in backpacker hostal after making no money. Her profile mentions guys that are 40-97. No offense but you have a ot to learn.

[QUOTE=Cuero99]if hot pussy is to be tapped money must be spent anyway one way or another. I think the keys besides the money to a great experience are does the chica in question actually like you in some way, and does she actually love to fuck? Question.jpg's pose tells me she surely does, good luck Runner Up.[/QUOTE]A lot of guys are looking for a girl who has not fucked every foreigner and local in town. When walking down the street and six guys look over and smile because they have had her this past month ... that can be a little daunting.

This is why he is asking.

If he answers some obvious questions he would not have to ask here.

I just read her description of what she is seeking - it says "the best liars"..LOL

[QUOTE=Robby Burns][url]http://www.latinamericancupid.com/en/profile/showProfile/ID/2478995?searchposition=2&searchtotal=500[/url][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LuckyEddie]A lot of guys are looking for a girl who has not fucked every foreigner and local in town. When walking down the street and six guys look over and smile because they have had her this past month ... that can be a little daunting.

This is why he is asking.

If he answers some obvious questions he would not have to ask here.[/QUOTE]If you think like that about every girl, you'll be VERY lonely.. LOL

Every girl who is seen with a gringo is a *****, simple as that.

A.G.

Yea OK, good luck with that.

[QUOTE=LuckyEddie]A lot of guys are looking for a girl who has not fucked every foreigner and local in town. When walking down the street and six guys look over and smile because they have had her this past month ... that can be a little daunting.

This is why he is asking.

If he answers some obvious questions he would not have to ask here.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Aussie Greg]Every girl who is seen with a gringo is a *****, simple as that.

A.G.[/QUOTE]Very raw but 100% true! That's how the gringo is perceived plain and simple.

[QUOTE=LuckyEddie]A lot of guys are looking for a girl who has not fucked every foreigner and local in town. When walking down the street and six guys look over and smile because they have had her this past month ... that can be a little daunting.

This is why he is asking.

If he answers some obvious questions he would not have to ask here.[/QUOTE]I think the best you can hope for is that she doesn't "feel" like she's slept with every foreigner in town. Now THAT can be daunting.

Gentleman

Can any body suggest a good dentist, us standard in mde. Contact infos please.

Thanks

[QUOTE=LuckyEddie]Dude she's a pro - a high priced pro which is why you never saw her agan after she wasted a night in backpacker hostal after making no money. Her profile mentions guys that are 40-97. No offense but you have a ot to learn.[/QUOTE]Actually, she did not waste a night...because it was two hours in the afternoon at the hostel bar. She had a great time...drinking and dancing...but she never once gave me (or my friend) any indication that she was available for something else.

Believe me...we were both very interested...and would have gladly paid $150-$200 USD to be with her. (I don't know if that is "high-priced" or not)

Wouldn't a pro have given us some type of hint?

Maybe I do have "a lot to learn"...but one thing I do not have to learn is how to be polite if the woman is not giving any indication at all that she is a pro. She already had told me, on the telephone, that she charges $15 per hour to be a guide. And...she lives with her mother (who answered the phone at her home)...so it was not obvious to me, or my friend, that she was a pro.

We spent 2 hours with her, trying to figure it out...but without wanting to insult her.

I am surprised that nobody here has responded by saying that they have been with her...that is, IF she is a pro.

So, if I have a lot to learn, at least I erred on the conservative and polite side.
I did not get to be with her, other than the 2 hours...but I also did not get ripped off. And, I still have something to look forward to.

Any recommendations on how I could have handled this "better"--without getting slapped in the face or kicked in the balls--would be appreciated.

[QUOTE=Robby Burns]Actually, she did not waste a night. Because it was two hours in the afternoon at the hostel bar. She had a great time. Drinking and dancing. But she never once gave me (or my friend) any indication that she was available for something else.

Believe me. We were both very interested. And would have gladly paid $150-$200 USD to be with her. (I don't know if that is "high-priced" or not)

Wouldn't a pro have given us some type of hint?

Maybe I do have "a lot to learn". But one thing I do not have to learn is how to be polite if the woman is not giving any indication at all that she is a pro. She already had told me, on the telephone, that she charges $15 per hour to be a guide. And. She lives with her mother (who answered the phone at her home). So it was not obvious to me, or my friend, that she was a pro.

We spent 2 hours with her, trying to figure it out. But without wanting to insult her.

I am surprised that nobody here has responded by saying that they have been with her. That is, IF she is a pro.

So, if I have a lot to learn, at least I erred on the conservative and polite side.

I did not get to be with her, other than the 2 hours. But I also did not get ripped off. And, I still have something to look forward to.

Any recommendations on how I could have handled this "better"-without getting slapped in the face or kicked in the balls-would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]The majority of this community would "GASP" at $150-$200 for a date. Depending on the girl I'd say why the hell not? That's like 3 hands of Black Jack in Vegas for me.

I agree with you to to error on the side of polite and caution. But no signals at all? No sexy look, no touching, no calling you baby? Stuff like that?

Quietly say to her "lets go to my room later"

"vamos a mi habitación? "

Either she says $100 access all areas (or something similar) and you can use that as a BASE for negotiation. (DO NOT accept the first offer, laugh at it and halve it and check her reaction). Do the "I'm poor but you're fanstastic routine and here's my next offer. "

Or she goes "OK", in which case you make it clear there's no dinero involved and you've got what we call a "freebie".

Or she goes not tonight dog-breath and wanders off. In which case also a result: you aren't wasting your time, go grab another chica pronto.

Note: the girl in your original post is available no question.

This training video has been posted before and relates to street girls in tijuana, but the principle's the same.

Take a look at it could help you (remember to put dots back in.):

Www youtube com/watch? V=qtnCkE5RpK0

[QUOTE=Robby Burns]Actually, she did not waste a night...because it was two hours in the afternoon at the hostel bar. She had a great time...drinking and dancing...but she never once gave me (or my friend) any indication that she was available for something else.

Believe me...we were both very interested...and would have gladly paid $150-$200 USD to be with her. (I don't know if that is "high-priced" or not)

Wouldn't a pro have given us some type of hint?

Maybe I do have "a lot to learn"...but one thing I do not have to learn is how to be polite if the woman is not giving any indication at all that she is a pro. She already had told me, on the telephone, that she charges $15 per hour to be a guide. And...she lives with her mother (who answered the phone at her home)...so it was not obvious to me, or my friend, that she was a pro.

We spent 2 hours with her, trying to figure it out...but without wanting to insult her.

I am surprised that nobody here has responded by saying that they have been with her...that is, IF she is a pro.

So, if I have a lot to learn, at least I erred on the conservative and polite side.
I did not get to be with her, other than the 2 hours...but I also did not get ripped off. And, I still have something to look forward to.

Any recommendations on how I could have handled this "better"--without getting slapped in the face or kicked in the balls--would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]There are tons of girls out there. The odds of someone from here seeing her is low. If you want to see if she'll put it. Treat her like any other girl! Take her out to dinner. Ask her to bring a friend for your friend. If things go well, take her to the side, say that you like her and ask if she wants to stay the night with you. Basic dating 101 really.

Hi Aussie,

I've had 2 real girlfriends since I have been in Colombia, 2 years with each, going on third relationship now. All 3 from serious families, with careers or jobs. None of which know or were aware of the degree of prostitution in Medellin, or that would consider any amount of money in exchange for sex. So they are out there, but then, I don't look like your ordinary gringo and I speak Spanish fluently.

I know, I'm a dog, have phucked hundreds and hundreds of women while at the same time having serious relationships. Can't hide it, you've all read my reports. Well, that's Medellin for you, and anyways, it was my job, ha, ha!

Frank Casio!

[QUOTE=Aussie Greg]Every girl who is seen with a gringo is a *****, simple as that.

A.G.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Robby Burns] ... Wouldn't a pro have given us some type of hint?

Maybe I do have "a lot to learn"...but one thing I do not have to learn is how to be polite if the woman is not giving any indication at all that she is a pro. She already had told me, on the telephone, that she charges $15 per hour to be a guide. And...she lives with her mother (who answered the phone at her home)...so it was not obvious to me, or my friend, that she was a pro.

We spent 2 hours with her, trying to figure it out...but without wanting to insult her.[/QUOTE]A pro is not normally shy about letting you know she's in the game.

You did good amigo, had fun and apparently she did too.

You could always drop hints.

Tell her you'd like to see her more, take her out, help her out a little, etc.

Her responses will let you know if she's a pro or maybe you'll end up on a date with a sexy non-pro.

Either way, you win.

Have fun

I rented the apartment from vacationrentalsmedellin.com and paid my deposit back in May for my trip in November. I sent an email on thursday to confirm my booking but haven't heard back from Robert. He was very responsive back in May so I am wondering if I am beat. Anyone know of Robert and his operation?

Thank you!

[QUOTE=Indian1]Gentleman

Can any body suggest a good dentist, us standard in mde. Contact infos please.

Thanks[/QUOTE]See my posts from last week on this. All the info you need is here under "dentist" search.

V

[QUOTE=Hioctane]If you think like that about every girl, you'll be VERY lonely.. LOL[/QUOTE]I said "because" not "as if" - meaning they were with her.

Take a SanDiego girl who lives in Doce 12 out on the town. The guys that say hi who are "acquiantences" of hers are really clients. Don't you think?

Some guys want to avoid that - being spotted with a well known and worn out pro on the streets.

When I walk down the street I expect the babe I'm with to get stares and I will even look away from on coming guys so they can get a good look. But I never parade around a working girl. i am of the camp that pros and girfriends have a brick wall between them and none the twain shall meet.

Making a pro your girlfriend is totally rookie, IMHO.

[QUOTE=Robby Burns]Actually, she did not waste a night...because it was two hours in the afternoon at the hostel bar. She had a great time...drinking and dancing...but she never once gave me (or my friend) any indication that she was available for something else.[/QUOTE]And prepagos like that won't just come out and show you a rate card. Someone like her is proably not going to waste a night with a guy who may not turn out to be a client.

[QUOTE=Robby Burns]Believe me...we were both very interested...and would have gladly paid $150-$200 USD to be with her. (I don't know if that is "high-priced" or not)

Wouldn't a pro have given us some type of hint?[/QUOTE]Some yes and some no. A lot of these prepagos/semi-pros will never admit to you nor themselves that they are really pros. So the guy has to make the move.

Here's what you do when you are in the chatting on line stage. You obviously asked her to be your guide, even a $rate was discussed. Durring that discussion/chat also inform her that you are looking for a girlfriend for the time you are here. This is where the negotiations start to happen.

A lot if guys really don't like this negotiation part and you never really know when you meet some of them on the street. Look at my previous post about girlfriends and pros - basically:

Go to a casa or strip club and get laid. And there you have it. No wondering, no whining and dining no cat and mouse no mystery.

You went to a forum supposedly for dating and relationships and got caught up with a semi pro and have to do the guessing and "do I offend her" game. That's a lot of work.

[QUOTE=Robby Burns]Maybe I do have "a lot to learn"...but one thing I do not have to learn is how to be polite if the woman is not giving any indication at all that she is a pro. She already had told me, on the telephone, that she charges $15 per hour to be a guide. And...she lives with her mother (who answered the phone at her home)...so it was not obvious to me, or my friend, that she was a pro.?[/QUOTE] I have never heard af anyone charging to be a guide here unless it is a cabby/driver carting you around. Most women who meet a guy like you on a dating site have no probalem showing you around for free if you buy lunch or whatever - but to have an hourly rate? I would venture to guess this is how she explains her income to her mother - "I'm a tour guide."

[QUOTE=Robby Burns]We spent 2 hours with her, trying to figure it out...but without wanting to insult her.

I am surprised that nobody here has responded by saying that they have been with her...that is, IF she is a pro.

So, if I have a lot to learn, at least I erred on the conservative and polite side. I did not get to be with her, other than the 2 hours...but I also did not get ripped off. And, I still have something to look forward to.

Any recommendations on how I could have handled this "better"--without getting slapped in the face or kicked in the balls--would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]I feel your pain in this grey area. But she is making it grey by not having a sign on her head that says "I play for pay" - so you have to be vague too: Say something such as "Not only a guide but I am looking for a girlfriend for while I am here, I heard Colombian women are very sweet, do you know anyone? I can help her out if she needs anything" Use the word ayuda for help which is vague but usually means money and also with this you are not directly asking her. If she takes the bait and says "yo" you're in!

if she give you a funny insulted look tell her sorry but you're romantic and leave it at that. no harm no foul.

Also remember you can play the dumb foreigner didn't mean to offend it must be the language barrier, plesae forgive me thing.

If you are looking for *****s and you feel the need to do it outside of a place where *****s work then do yourself a favor and do the negotiation on-line, before meeting in person and playing the guessing game. JMHO

[QUOTE=Aussie Greg]Every girl who is seen with a gringo is a *****, simple as that.

A.G.[/QUOTE]Especially with the age difference and fact that the guy speaks grunt and point Spanish or worse - talks close to her ear in a low voice so as to not be heard by those around.

And gringo here mean just about every foriegner.

Bottom line? Who cares? No one should be trying to hide the fact as to what is going on - it won't work - everyone already knows!

[QUOTE=Frank Casio]Hi Aussie,

I've had 2 real girlfriends since I have been in Colombia, 2 years with each, going on third relationship now. [/QUOTE]How much money did you pay for them?

[QUOTE=Frank Casio]Hi Aussie,

I've had 2 real girlfriends since I have been in Colombia, 2 years with each, going on third relationship now. All 3 from serious families, with careers or jobs. None of which know or were aware of the degree of prostitution in Medellin, or that would consider any amount of money in exchange for sex. So they are out there, but then, I don't look like your ordinary gringo and I speak Spanish fluently.

I know, I'm a dog, have phucked hundreds and hundreds of women while at the same time having serious relationships. Can't hide it, you've all read my reports. Well, that's Medellin for you, and anyways, it was my job, ha, ha!

Frank Casio![/QUOTE]La verdad Sr. Casio, tu erres perro! Jajjaja

Just kidding!

I do agree with you that there are "normal" girls in Colombia, I've been snake bit by a few undercover prepags. Facebook is a good way to meet chicks, friends of your friends. Not to say the prepags don't have FB pages but they don't recruit clients that way like on "dating" sites.

My friend easiest way for you to find out for sure if she does P4P is to PM me her phone number. I will surely call her and nicely ask her if she does p4p. I am visiting Medellin first week of November.

Regards,

John

[QUOTE=Robby Burns]Hello all,

I posted this question last week...along with the link to her Latin Cupid profile page. Nobody responded. Here it is again:

[url]http://www.latinamericancupid.com/en/profile/showProfile/ID/2478995?searchposition=2&searchtotal=500[/url]

I spent two hours with her in the bar area of the Tiger Paw Hostel. She charged me $15 per hour to be a guide...but we never left the bar. We had a good time...drinking beer and dancing. (Another American--not an ISG member--split the $30 with me. He was amazed at how beautiful she was.)

I did not know how to "politely" broach the subject of whether or not she was a P4P...so I did not bring it up. I did not see her again during my trip.

Does anybody out there have any experience with Darly (she also uses the name Sair..maybe her middle name)?

She sure doesn't look like a neurosurgeon![/QUOTE]

She is non-pro. Pros do not waste time, and invite for sessions.

[QUOTE=Robby Burns]Actually, she did not waste a night. Because it was two hours in the afternoon at the hostel bar. She had a great time. Drinking and dancing. But she never once gave me (or my friend) any indication that she was available for something else.

Believe me. We were both very interested. And would have gladly paid $150-$200 USD to be with her. (I don't know if that is "high-priced" or not)

Wouldn't a pro have given us some type of hint?

Maybe I do have "a lot to learn". But one thing I do not have to learn is how to be polite if the woman is not giving any indication at all that she is a pro. She already had told me, on the telephone, that she charges $15 per hour to be a guide. And. She lives with her mother (who answered the phone at her home). So it was not obvious to me, or my friend, that she was a pro.

We spent 2 hours with her, trying to figure it out. But without wanting to insult her.

I am surprised that nobody here has responded by saying that they have been with her. That is, IF she is a pro.

So, if I have a lot to learn, at least I erred on the conservative and polite side.

I did not get to be with her, other than the 2 hours. But I also did not get ripped off. And, I still have something to look forward to.

Any recommendations on how I could have handled this "better"-without getting slapped in the face or kicked in the balls-would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]

Hi Fox,

I don´t blame you for being skeptical, I know women in Medellin very well. But I´m a pretty smart guy, ha,ha. My first girlfriend had, and still has a good paying job. She payed her share of utilities and rent back then according to her income, which I had calculated to be one third of mine. She drove me all over Colombia in her car and when we went on exotic vacations she payed her part. But when we just went out, I did pay for that and did not ask her for half.

My second girlfriend had a job also, but she worked 10 hours a day, 6 days a week, so I asked her to stop working because I couldn´t be in a relationship like that. I offered to pay her net income after deducting what she had to spend on food and travel to and from work. It was about 350,000cop. She had a little girl, that´s why I wanted to do that, so she could finish school and take care of her little girl. She was a very simple girl, beautiful, but simple. Never asked me for anything. Her father lived in Texas then moved to Canada and was working on taking the whole family to Canada, but she preferred to stay with me in Colombia. In neither case was the relationship base on me being a gringo or them wanting to come to the USA. They were both happy living in Medellin.

My current relationship, same thing. She works full time and her being with me has nothing to do with wanting to come to the USA. If you are half smart, you can tell if a women really likes you or if she has other interests. My case is a little different since I don´t look blatently gringo. Actually almost Paisa looking, higher end Paisa of course. I have lived most of my time in Envigado and have met normal girls through neighbors and friends in normal settings. There isn´t a lot of tourism or gringos in Envigado, so the girls aren´t looking for wealthy gringos to go out with, it´s not in their mind set. So I guess I was lucky from the beginning to have landed there.

Since I will be keeping a lower profile do to my latest relationship, I don´t want to keep screwing all of them up, my administrator will be taking care of My Place. I will provide a "winggirl" to take you to the Stripclubs or wherever else you want to go whenever Karolina is available, and she is ussually available. Karolina is a party girl, she likes to go out and party and wont charge you for that. I took her to the Striptease Bars to get her a job because she dances super sexy, but I guess she was not interested, although offered a job at "San Diego Grill". So she´ll know where to take you. You can see pics. of Karolina on my "webpage", [url]www.******************.com[/url] or [url]www.******************.com[/url].

I´ll still be around, but more in the background and still following up on my guests and giving advice and answering questions over the phone. If you ask any of my guests, they will tell you that I hound them constantly over the phone to make sure they are having a good time and are comfortable. I just can´t keep phucking around so much anymore and expect to survive in a relationship.

Frank Casio !

[QUOTE=FoxesHunter]How much money did you pay for them?[/QUOTE]

But you are not going to find them in strip clubs and on line. You will have to visit amongst the natives to know that for sure. Live like you are a local you will meet the regulars.

Going to the tourist traps, clubs restaurants, etc. you will at best meet innocent looking girls that have learn/been taught the game. Some play it better then others and some just luck out with better SUCKERS then others.

Off the beaten path you might find a really great girl and want to cuida ella and her family. A real cool girl will not cost you much and will not play you as the Pro/non-pro will. They like most humans just want to be loved and treated well. Frank, girl two is common in the pueblos around the clubs and if you can care for them without spoiling them you will have a woman worth life long love. Just a thought.

[QUOTE=Frank Casio]Hi Fox,

I don´t blame you for being skeptical, I know women in Medellin very well. But I´m a pretty smart guy, ha,ha. My first girlfriend had, and still has a good paying job. She payed her share of utilities and rent back then according to her income, which I had calculated to be one third of mine. She drove me all over Colombia in her car and when we went on exotic vacations she payed her part. But when we just went out, I did pay for that and did not ask her for half.

My second girlfriend had a job also, but she worked 10 hours a day, 6 days a week, so I asked her to stop working because I couldn´t be in a relationship like that. I offered to pay her net income after deducting what she had to spend on food and travel to and from work. It was about 350,000cop. She had a little girl, that´s why I wanted to do that, so she could finish school and take care of her little girl. She was a very simple girl, beautiful, but simple. Never asked me for anything. Her father lived in Texas then moved to Canada and was working on taking the whole family to Canada, but she preferred to stay with me in Colombia. In neither case was the relationship base on me being a gringo or them wanting to come to the USA. They were both happy living in Medellin.

My current relationship, same thing. She works full time and her being with me has nothing to do with wanting to come to the USA. If you are half smart, you can tell if a women really likes you or if she has other interests. My case is a little different since I don´t look blatently gringo. Actually almost Paisa looking, higher end Paisa of course. I have lived most of my time in Envigado and have met normal girls through neighbors and friends in normal settings. There isn´t a lot of tourism or gringos in Envigado, so the girls aren´t looking for wealthy gringos to go out with, it´s not in their mind set. So I guess I was lucky from the beginning to have landed there.

Since I will be keeping a lower profile do to my latest relationship, I don´t want to keep screwing all of them up, my administrator will be taking care of My Place. I will provide a "winggirl" to take you to the Stripclubs or wherever else you want to go whenever Karolina is available, and she is ussually available. Karolina is a party girl, she likes to go out and party and wont charge you for that. I took her to the Striptease Bars to get her a job because she dances super sexy, but I guess she was not interested, although offered a job at "San Diego Grill". So she´ll know where to take you. You can see pics. of Karolina on my "webpage", [url]www.******************.com[/url] or [url]www.******************.com[/url].

I´ll still be around, but more in the background and still following up on my guests and giving advice and answering questions over the phone. If you ask any of my guests, they will tell you that I hound them constantly over the phone to make sure they are having a good time and are comfortable. I just can´t keep phucking around so much anymore and expect to survive in a relationship.

Frank Casio ![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Matt Psyche]She is non-pro. Pros do not waste time, and invite for sessions.[/QUOTE]Sorry bro, not all the way true. There are the pros or semi pro prepagos that are kinda in the middle (to me a ***** is a ***** but that is another story) that don't really say anything unless the guy makes the move or hints. Especially with guys that have a certain percieved potential by the girl. Or this same girl may come right out and admit it like you say if the guy is an ugly bald 50 year old obvious a monger.

Remember she may be doing the same guessing game as the OP might be a younger good looking guy with game - not an obvious monger on the surface. "Is this guy going to offer me money or maybe we date or go down a different road...?"

Either way a girl like that is going to get your money and money from her steady clients.

[QUOTE=Robby Burns]Any recommendations on how I could have handled this "better"--without getting slapped in the face or kicked in the balls--would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]Lots of good suggestions already. Just wanted to add, why this sense of insecurity or fear? You're on vacation; with almost nothing to lose. Why are you worried what she thinks about you when that's something that you can barely control anyway, non-pro or not? It sounds to me not only were you hoping for sex, but you were hoping she was a pro or semi-pro. If that's really what you wanted, you should have asked during the chat sessions before you even met face to face. LuckyEddie had some very good ideas on handling those questions online.

The other way to try is to invite her to your room/apartment to chill out or hang out. If she's really a non-pro, she'll refuse to go with you alone on a first date to your apartment. If she does go up with you, you can make your "indecent proposal" official in private.

One criticism: you didn't mention whether you initiated physical contact. With women, especially non-pro latin women, you're expected to make all the moves. Start lightly touching her forearm or hand when you're making a conversational point. You said your buddy was with you? Should have had him taking pics of the two of you with your arm around her, etc. etc.

Once she's comfy, you can ask her almost anything. If she gets offended, SO WHAT? If you're really afraid of "getting slapped in the face or kicked in the balls" I think only a girl that's drunk or on drugs would do something like that. A real non-pro would just want to leave the premises without causing a scene because that would only draw more attention to the fact that she's hanging out with a monger.

So yeah, you could potentially embarrass a non-pro but you don't have to worry about yourself being embarrassed. Remember, it's a man's world in Colombia. If you're really worried about embarrassing the girl, ask on-line or try the indirect approach I mentioned above: "why don't you come up to my apartment and relax with me for awhile" You can always blame the booze and your bad spanish if she "misunderstands" you. ;)

Look, if you're spending lots of money flying down there ostensibly looking for sex, the most unproductive time-wasting thing you can do is indulge or give in to your "fears." We're talking about airhead colombianas here, not IEDs in Iraq, lol! :)

MY point is 90% of these 25-and-under non-pros are incredibly flaky, with at best ambivalent attitudes towards the men in their lives. No matter how good looking, rich, charming, or fluent in Spanish you are, there's almost nothing you can do to change that. Remember, a lot of these girls are cheating and flaking out on good looking local guys, that have the cultural know-how to charm and romance these chicas. So stop worrying about what they "think" about you. The answer is probably not much, but unless you're looking for a serious long term thing, does it really matter?

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver]Post this in the Trip Announcements thread as well. Try a "casa blanca or hostel style place" to find someone to hang out with. Better yet just go to Parque Lleras you'll find all the gringos you want consolidated into 6 square blocks.

LOL[/QUOTE]I am staying at the Dann Carlton. Is there a problem bringing girls to the room and is there an extra charge?

[QUOTE=Phunluv]One criticism: you didn't mention whether you initiated physical contact. With women, especially non-pro latin women, you're expected to make all the moves. Start lightly touching her forearm or hand when you're making a conversational point. You said your buddy was with you? Should have had him taking pics of the two of you with your arm around her, etc. etc.[/QUOTE]I thought that I mentioned that we danced for a good portion of the two hours. There was definitely physical contact. She is a great dancer, and, fortunately, I am only two levels below that. LOL

And, yes, my buddy took lots of pictures of the two of us dancing. Pictures that my many friends here in the USA were drooling over, simply because of her beauty.

But, I cannot post them here. Because I do not want to embarass the woman (she's 31, BTW. Not a flaky sub-25-year-old).

My buddy does not think she is a pro or a part-time pro. Because she did not suggest anything to either one of us during a 2-hour drinking and dancing "date" during the afternoon. She could have easily surmised that we would have wanted to be with her. My God. Who wouldn't.

So, the mystery is still unsolved. Any one of you who has a Gold membership on Latin American Cupid can contact her. Maybe I should offer some sort of prize to anyone who can give me a definitive answer. Be it "yes" or "no. "

I did not think about questioning her online before I went down to MDE. As I have stated before, I am a rookie.

Thanks to all who replied. I am still surprised that she has not attracted anyone else's attention.

[QUOTE=Robby Burns]I thought that I mentioned that we danced for a good portion of the two hours. There was definitely physical contact. She is a great dancer, and, fortunately, I am only two levels below that. LOL

And, yes, my buddy took lots of pictures of the two of us dancing. Pictures that my many friends here in the USA were drooling over, simply because of her beauty.

But, I cannot post them here. Because I do not want to embarass the woman (she's 31, BTW. Not a flaky sub-25-year-old).[/QUOTE]Sounds then that you definitely had a green light to make some kind of overture/invitation. You wrote that you were waiting for some kind of sign, but you could end up waiting for a long time if you're going to rely on that. Might as well wait for signs in the sky. :) Many of these chicas won't show any interest in you until you show interest/intent first, that's just the way they're wired. Just suck up your pride and take that chance, a rejection can sting but at least you know you never had much of a chance anyway and you move on to the next opportunity. But now you're torturing yourself with "what-if?" type questions about this girl. What's worse?

Anyway, it's possible she's just a non-pro, although some of the pics in her profile seemed a bit too sexy for a non-pro to put up. Maybe she's a "grilla," i.e., a girl interested in dating several guys for attention & cash flow. Oh, and if she's 31 and still single with no kids, she's only a little less flaky than a 25-year old. :)

Still, I can understand the reluctance. Hanging out at a hostel in the afternoon is not exactly the right situation to bring up P4P. But you could have asked her out. Her reaction and answer would have given you some insight into whether she's a semi-pro or whatever.

[QUOTE=Robby Burns]I thought that I mentioned that we danced for a good portion of the two hours. There was definitely physical contact. She is a great dancer, and, fortunately, I am only two levels below that. LOL

And, yes, my buddy took lots of pictures of the two of us dancing. Pictures that my many friends here in the USA were drooling over, simply because of her beauty.

But, I cannot post them here. Because I do not want to embarass the woman (she's 31, BTW. Not a flaky sub-25-year-old).

My buddy does not think she is a pro or a part-time pro. Because she did not suggest anything to either one of us during a 2-hour drinking and dancing "date" during the afternoon. She could have easily surmised that we would have wanted to be with her. My God. Who wouldn't.

So, the mystery is still unsolved. Any one of you who has a Gold membership on Latin American Cupid can contact her. Maybe I should offer some sort of prize to anyone who can give me a definitive answer. Be it "yes" or "no. "

I did not think about questioning her online before I went down to MDE. As I have stated before, I am a rookie.

Thanks to all who replied. I am still surprised that she has not attracted anyone else's attention.[/QUOTE]Have you been in contact with her since?

Why not tell her that you'd love to see her again, just you and her on a date.

Pro or non-pro, you'll have fun, that's the bottom line.

If she's a pro, her colors will show eventually, she'll want you to know it.

If she's a non-pro and she digs ya, the lovin' will come too.

[QUOTE=Robby Burns]I thought that I mentioned that we danced for a good portion of the two hours. There was definitely physical contact. She is a great dancer, and, fortunately, I am only two levels below that. LOL

And, yes, my buddy took lots of pictures of the two of us dancing. Pictures that my many friends here in the USA were drooling over, simply because of her beauty.

But, I cannot post them here. Because I do not want to embarass the woman (she's 31, BTW. Not a flaky sub-25-year-old).

My buddy does not think she is a pro or a part-time pro. Because she did not suggest anything to either one of us during a 2-hour drinking and dancing "date" during the afternoon. She could have easily surmised that we would have wanted to be with her. My God. Who wouldn't.

So, the mystery is still unsolved. Any one of you who has a Gold membership on Latin American Cupid can contact her. Maybe I should offer some sort of prize to anyone who can give me a definitive answer. Be it "yes" or "no. "

I did not think about questioning her online before I went down to MDE. As I have stated before, I am a rookie.

Thanks to all who replied. I am still surprised that she has not attracted anyone else's attention.[/QUOTE]Robby:

To me, her profile screams prepago but you were there and I wasn't sooo, it's impossible for me to say.

I would have at least invited her back to my place to continue the party there. Her reaction to that would answer the question.

One night I was at Tu Candela disco in Cartagena. The place was hoppin and many, many girls were obvious full time or part time hookers. Two girls standing right next to me started partying and dancing with me. Even though they told me they were in CTG for vacation I thought they were surely P4P so I invited them back to my place. They clammed up so fast I was stunned. Only later did I learn that straight girls and working girls both go to that disco.

The only additional advice I would give about Sair is to be more up-front if you ever see her face to face again. I don't know how you could address it in writing now. Unless she does something rude or crude, I like you, would err on the side of politeness. It has nothing to do with "fear". (A recurring theme for some I frankly don't comprehend.) It's my nature.

Have fun, Schwmm

This place did not last 6 months!!!!
[quote]The Dollhouse nightclub in Medellin has closed following an investigation into the illegal hiring of foreign workers, and allegations that the club has links with the mafia, reports W Radio.

An unnamed source told the radio station that authorities are investigating whether the club is serving as a front to launder money connected to organized crime.

The investigation into the 5-month-old "world class five-star VIP entertainment center" located in the southern Medellin neighborhood of Itagui, began in February.

An investigation into the visa status of several employees was taken over by government intelligence agency DAS after the discovery of incidents of "odd behavior during night-time parties organized by the club."

DAS found that three Venezuelans, an American, and a Panamanian who worked in construction and remodeling on the club in the months leading up to its grand opening lacked the proper documentation to work in Colombia.

Further irregularities came to light when it was revealed that the Medellin Chamber of Commerce had no record of the club registering.

Workers at the club said it was owned by Glen Buzzetti, but Buzzetti was not named as a partner or owner of Dollhouse.

W Radio reports that Buzzetti allegedly had a conflict with an unnamed U.S. citizen who lent him a significant amount of money. The U.S. citizen later sent three men to claim the money, saying they worked for "Office of Envigado," a local criminal organization.

Dollhouse is currently closed for "remodeling" and will reportedly be opened under new management and a new name.

The investigation by the Colombian intelligence service is ongoing.

[url]http://colombiareports.com/colombia-news/news/12532-dollhouse-nightclub-closes-amid-das-investigation.html[/url][/quote]

Hi Big Risa,

if I were you I would use a different hotel, for a couple of reasons:

- The Dann Carlton in Bogota once not only included the "guest charge" for a client I had supplied with a girl on the bill, they also included THE NAME OF THE GIRL! When the client complained they argued that "their system" doesn't allow them to take it out.

- The service is just pityful. It's probably the hotel with the worst service/price ration. They just don't give a rats ass about their clients.

- Their hotels seem very antiquated and out-of-fashion to me. They might have been posh when Palbo Escobar was still around, but these days...

Just my 5 cents worth.
PaisaLover
Girlfriend 4 A Week
Colombian Girlfriends without the Strings Attached
[url]http://girlfriend4aweek.com[/url]

[QUOTE=Big Risa]I am staying at the Dann Carlton. Is there a problem bringing girls to the room and is there an extra charge?[/QUOTE]

Guys, just took the fast boat from Quibdo to Turbo, down the Rio Atrato, great trip, better than the Rio Amazon and the Rio Napo.

If anybody wants details, advice, just pm me, regards.

Aussie Greg.

This Friday afternoon I was at Cafe Colombia in Parque Lleras. I saw one incredibly hot chick that looked like a non-pro. However, five minutes later two girls dressed like they where pros from the majorista sat with her. My question is where can I find pros in el Parque Lleras?

[QUOTE=Justafool]But you are not going to find them in strip clubs and on line. You will have to visit amongst the natives to know that for sure. Live like you are a local you will meet the regulars.

Going to the tourist traps, clubs restaurants, etc. you will at best meet innocent looking girls that have learn/been taught the game. Some play it better then others and some just luck out with better SUCKERS then others.

Off the beaten path you might find a really great girl and want to cuida ella and her family. A real cool girl will not cost you much and will not play you as the Pro/non-pro will. They like most humans just want to be loved and treated well. Frank, girl two is common in the pueblos around the clubs and if you can care for them without spoiling them you will have a woman worth life long love. Just a thought.[/QUOTE]"If you lay with dogs you get fleas." One of my all time favorite rappers had a line..."you don't meet your queen in the club..." or something like that. You hang where Wh***s hang you're going to meet *****s.

[QUOTE=TonySoprano]This Friday afternoon I was at Cafe Colombia in Parque Lleras. I saw one incredibly hot chick that looked like a non-pro. However, five minutes later two girls dressed like they where pros from the majorista sat with her. My question is where can I find pros in el Parque Lleras?[/QUOTE]Hang out at Alamo bar. I saw prepagos there every night. How do I know? I went there with my own and she pointed them out to me. If you are not sure, befriend the bar tender. Ask him if he knows of any chicas that like hanging out with gringos.

[QUOTE=Aussie Greg]Guys, just took the fast boat from Quibdo to Turbo, down the Rio Atrato, great trip, better than the Rio Amazon and the Rio Napo.

If anybody wants details, advice, just pm me, regards.

Aussie Greg.[/QUOTE]Good front advice, these trip posts. Go the Jets!

[QUOTE=TonySoprano]This Friday afternoon I was at Cafe Colombia in Parque Lleras. I saw one incredibly hot chick that looked like a non-pro. However, five minutes later two girls dressed like they where pros from the majorista sat with her. My question is where can I find pros in el Parque Lleras?[/QUOTE]What about Cafe Colombia itself? You might have spotted the right place.

[QUOTE=Pana Nyc]This place did not last 6 months!!!![/QUOTE]Lots of rumors about why Dollhouse closed. What they said makes zero sense. Why would they need to hire illegals? This is Colombia! Labor is cheap as it is! An expat told me what sounded as more probable. The chicas were asking for outrageous prices.. 300-400k.. $200 rooms.. US prices for drinks. Near the end they turned it into a casa to try to recoup some money. They got scared and bailed.

It just didnt make any money, in fact, it was loosing money.

All these investigations are probley true and ongoing but you carnt get away from the fact that it was loosing money and how long can you keep putting your hand in your pocket.

If you go back and read my post earlier, I gave it 6 months.

A.G.

[QUOTE=Pana Nyc]This place did not last 6 months!!!![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Aussie Greg]It just didnt make any money, in fact, it was loosing money.

All these investigations are probley true and ongoing but you carnt get away from the fact that it was loosing money and how long can you keep putting your hand in your pocket.

If you go back and read my post earlier, I gave it 6 months.

A.G.[/QUOTE]I think when we spoke, you put it best, a normal Colombian girl/woman wouldn't be caught dead in that place.

[QUOTE=Flawhipcracker]They are running a special and the could not be less expense! I had fun!

[url]www.colombiajake.com[/url][/QUOTE]They compare this place to a hotel but at a hotel you have you own private place - at this place you are sharing an apartment with strangers. That's gonna impress the ladies, just like a hostal. "These two big guys on the couch eating Burger King are my new friends Bubba and Floyd from Mississippi...."

[QUOTE=Sexmetv]I think when we spoke, you put it best, a normal Colombian girl/woman wouldn't be caught dead in that place.[/QUOTE]Nor would a normal Colomban girl/woman get caught in The Mansion/Casablanca, Loutron, strip clubs nor any other place where prostítutes work - makes sense, I agree 100%.

Why would a normal Colombiana go to any of these places unless they were prostítutes?

[QUOTE=LuckyEddie]They compare this place to a hotel but at a hotel you have you own private place - at this place you are sharing an apartment with strangers. That's gonna impress the ladies, just like a hostal. "These two big guys on the couch eating Burger King are my new friends Bubba and Floyd from Mississippi...."[/QUOTE]Yep...so $290 for a month or a day? Pass

No private bathroom? Pass

"Hey baby these two fat gringos Buffa and Floyd want to see you naked normal girl"

No thanks!

Romeo, para mi fue aun placer estar contigo, me encantase tu eres nuy guapo. Tu cuerpo es precioso. Me encantas.

Me gusto como me hiciste todo. Muy rico.

I love you.

Just a sample note from a girl.

Romeo it was a pleasure to be with you. I liked you. You are good looking, you body is precise. I love it.

I liked what you did to me. Very rich.

Lo voy a extranar. I am going to miss you.

Eventhough I may never see her again. Not braging, just sharing. Don't ask me for her name or #. Hahahahha

Finally a break from work in the US. Went to New Life about 4 pm, about 10 ladies working. At least half were doable. I chose Johanna, stay away or take her at your own risk. Body(7). Personality(2). Performance(2). Like humping an anemic log. Maybe it was just bad chemistry. Maybe not! Cost. 45K for 45 mins.

Honorable mentions:

Mari

Susan

They caught my eye also, maybe next time.

Enjoy!

[QUOTE=Flawhipcracker]They are running a special and the could not be less expense! I had fun!

[url]www.colombiajake.com[/url][/QUOTE]Haven't been to jake's but it sounds like frank casio's "my place"

Been there twice. A lot better rates & frank doesn't charge for his casa tour, which is pretty good.

Just MHO.

[QUOTE=Romir]Romeo, para mi fue aun placer estar contigo, me encantase tu eres nuy guapo. Tu cuerpo es precioso. Me encantas.

Me gusto como me hiciste todo. Muy rico.

I love you.

Just a sample note from a girl.

Romeo it was a pleasure to be with you. I liked you. You are good looking, you body is precise. I love it.

I liked what you did to me. Very rich.

Lo voy a extranar. I am going to miss you.

Eventhough I may never see her again. Not braging, just sharing. Don't ask me for her name or #. Hahahahha[/QUOTE]Obviously it's not bragging - but why share your first love note with us? Girls respond well when you spend money and now you are looking for....? A prize?

You could be declared "the precise body stud of Thursday" as it has not yet been awarded but "me encantas" is pretty weak. Post when you get a "me gustas" - Sorry but it's sort of a prerequisite.

[QUOTE=LuckyEddie]Obviously it's not bragging - but why share your first love note with us? Girls respond well when you spend money and now you are looking for....? A prize?

You could be declared "the precise body stud of Thursday" as it has not yet been awarded but "me encantas" is pretty weak. Post when you get a "me gustas" - Sorry but it's sort of a prerequisite.[/QUOTE]LMFAO. Stop it Lucky Ed, I'm trying to eat my dinner!

Your reply had me laughing with tears, especially the 'prerequisite' part.

Thanks, I needed a laugh.

[QUOTE=Romir]Romeo, para mi fue aun placer estar contigo, me encantase tu eres nuy guapo. Tu cuerpo es precioso. Me encantas.

Me gusto como me hiciste todo. Muy rico.

I love you.

Just a sample note from a girl.

Romeo it was a pleasure to be with you. I liked you. You are good looking, you body is precise. I love it.

Eventhough I may never see her again. Not braging, just sharing. Don't ask me for her name or #. Hahahahha[/QUOTE]Come on man! Can I please get her name and number! I want a letter like that too!

Oooooh amigo, you are too much.

Just a shame you didn't get the 'me gustas' from her (refer to Lucky Ed post below).

Would have been perfect.

There's always next week, keep trying though.

[QUOTE=Romir]you body is precise.[/QUOTE](sorry, I just have to pile on)

precise!?

Yeah, those Colombian babes sure love that...precision.

(gotta remember to bring that Swiss watch w/me next time)

Oh yeah, fyi: precioso=precious. If that's what she said.

[QUOTE=Ricker]Come on man! Can I please get her name and number! I want a letter like that too!

Oooooh amigo, you are too much.

Just a shame you didn't get the 'me gustas' from her (refer to Lucky Ed post below).

Would have been perfect.

There's always next week, keep trying though.[/QUOTE]I did edit a couple of racy comments. She was probably lying anyways. She tell that to all the boys. Que rico, popi. Is that how you spell it? I like Poppy thought. Just saying. Demasiado es correcto. Too much is right.

[QUOTE=Ricker]LMFAO ... Stop it Lucky Ed, I'm trying to eat my dinner!
Your reply had me laughing with tears, especially the 'prerequisite' part.
Thanks, I needed a laugh :)[/QUOTE]Why did you have to burst my bubble. You are right, I don't know what I was thinking publishing such intimate info. My bad. BUT, I have others if you want me to pm to you. Even better ones. One even has me gusta, I hope, I will check and get back with you. The girls are probably just fucking with me. Oh well.

[QUOTE=Romir]Why did you have to burst my bubble. You are right, I don't know what I was thinking publishing such intimate info. My bad. BUT, I have others if you want me to pm to you. Even better ones. One even has me gusta, I hope, I will check and get back with you. The girls are probably just fucking with me. Oh well.[/QUOTE]I'm sure the chica really did or does like you and I'm sure you have other nice emails from her or other chicas.

What you should know is, we ALL get these types of messages from chicas.
It's not like you're the first guy to get a a steamy love note from a Colombiana.

They are lovin and passionate and love to express, irregardless of their exact motive.

Please don't PM me her other messages.

I believe you.

I get the feeling you're a nice guy. Just not sure if you're very green, innocent, naive, sarcastic or a combo of all the above.

Take care

[QUOTE=Ricker]Please don't PM me her other messages.

I believe you.

I get the feeling you're a nice guy. Just not sure if you're very green, innocent, naive, sarcastic or a combo of all the above.

Take care[/QUOTE]ha haaaa, or a troll baiting you, Hook Line and Sinker! lol

[QUOTE=Romir]Why did you have to burst my bubble. You are right, I don't know what I was thinking publishing such intimate info. My bad. BUT, I have others if you want me to pm to you. Even better ones. One even has me gusta, I hope, I will check and get back with you. The girls are probably just fucking with me. Oh well.[/QUOTE]Sorry to poke fun at you but I could not resist. The precise body translation had me spitting my coffee all over my monitor. Glad you are a good sport about it. You're prob a good guy and the chick digs you. It's all good.

Hi guys,

I´ve been trying to behave, but I´m a total screw up. Last night I went to the Emperor´s Topless-Liquor and Nude Bar on Route 60 near Brandon. It was a good deal, a bucket of 6 beers for just $10 bucks. But I had to screw it up and drank 2 buckets, then I lost control. Those girls are so nice to me at the StripClubs, I wish I could have that rapport at a regular Disco. I think it´s just because I´m a sexual being and work well in that element, whereas in a regular Disco I would probably be getting sexual harrassment complaints, ha,ha.

But anyways, I was having a great time tipping all the girls left and right, even gave a $20 to a girl that sat with me for almost an hour. I just didn´t want to do the 3 minute lap dance crap. I even tipped her about 3 clients that were checking her out and she scored. She was real happy and thank me, but I also didn´t want to be stuck with her the whole night. After drinking at the topless bar you get a ribbon to go to the nude bar where there is no alchol. But that´s the idea, you go there to sober up before you drive home.

But big mistake, wallet wise. Those girls jumped on me from the minute I got in about the champagne room, $125 for 15 minutes. They didn´t even offer anything less. But boy they were beautiful. Perfect bodies and beautiful pink pussys without the tipical dark around the edges. When they opened those sexy legs while dancing, moved that perfectly round ass, and put that beautiful pussy in front of me I was a gonner. V. had been sitting with me since I got in, and L. also had worked hard promising total satisfaction guaranteed. But after V opened those legs, I was mesmerized and she took me straight to the Champagne room.

She was really hot and was not mean when I tried to stick my finger in her awesome pussy. I did a little bit, and she would just remove it gently. I also tried to suck her pussy when she put it in my face, and again she was gentle in controlling me. Don´t need to say that 15 minutes went by almost instantly. I still tipped her $20US. But I was still just as horny, even more so after we were done. I tried to convince her to come home with me. I even told her I needed a roommate which she considered for about a second since she was probably going to be breaking up with her boyfriend, but I couldn´t close the deal. I would have to keep comming regularly to even have a chance, but I was already down $300US and feeling it. Since I have little control with pussys and money after I´m drunk, I´m lucky if I could come once a month at those prices, but I´m not done yet.

Another girl, not as hot as V. had been working me also. After I was done with V she sat down and started complainning how she hadn´t made any money. I was still so horney that I suggested her comming home with me, I didn´t think she would even consider it. I was wrong, she said since I havn´t made any money how much ? I said you tell me. She said $200US for an hour, I said all night, we settled for 2 hours.

I gave her my number and she called me around 5AM and I gave her instructions to my house. Needless to say, I took my Colombian Viagara (MK Laboratories) and pounded that pink pussy mercelessly for an hour and a half. You guys know me I don´t exagerate, but it seemed like she came between 8-10 times, or she´s the best actress I´ve ever met. It seems like american women like to phuck, which I´ve always thought was true from all my past girlfriends here in the USA when I was younger. Some Pre-pagos in Colombia do to, but most are strictly about the money, that has been my experience at least.

I feel sorry for my girlfriend in Colombia, I´ve been trying to behave, but those 2 buckets of cheap beer and all that pink pussy got the best of me. By the end of the night I was out $500US, a million colombian pesos. I felt like crying, but anyways, I´ll sacrifice a few other pleasures or non essentials to re-coup some of that money back. Which is what I ussually try to do to recupperate from a drunkard spending spree. But it was lots of fun, ha,ha!

Frank Casio!

[QUOTE=Frank Casio]Hi guys,

I´ve been trying to behave, but I´m a total screw up. Last night I went to the Emperor´s Topless-Liquor and Nude Bar on Route 60 near Brandon. It was a good deal, a bucket of 6 beers for just $10 bucks. But I had to screw it up and drank 2 buckets, then I lost control. Those girls are so nice to me at the StripClubs, I wish I could have that rapport at a regular Disco. I think it´s just because I´m a sexual being and work well in that element, whereas in a regular Disco I would probably be getting sexual harrassment complaints, ha,ha.

But anyways, I was having a great time tipping all the girls left and right, even gave a $20 to a girl that sat with me for almost an hour. I just didn´t want to do the 3 minute lap dance crap. I even tipped her about 3 clients that were checking her out and she scored. She was real happy and thank me, but I also didn´t want to be stuck with her the whole night. After drinking at the topless bar you get a ribbon to go to the nude bar where there is no alchol. But that´s the idea, you go there to sober up before you drive home.

But big mistake, wallet wise. Those girls jumped on me from the minute I got in about the champagne room, $125 for 15 minutes. They didn´t even offer anything less. But boy they were beautiful. Perfect bodies and beautiful pink pussys without the tipical dark around the edges. When they opened those sexy legs while dancing, moved that perfectly round ass, and put that beautiful pussy in front of me I was a gonner. V. had been sitting with me since I got in, and L. also had worked hard promising total satisfaction guaranteed. But after V opened those legs, I was mesmerized and she took me straight to the Champagne room.

She was really hot and was not mean when I tried to stick my finger in her awesome pussy. I did a little bit, and she would just remove it gently. I also tried to suck her pussy when she put it in my face, and again she was gentle in controlling me. Don´t need to say that 15 minutes went by almost instantly. I still tipped her $20US. But I was still just as horny, even more so after we were done. I tried to convince her to come home with me. I even told her I needed a roommate which she considered for about a second since she was probably going to be breaking up with her boyfriend, but I couldn´t close the deal. I would have to keep comming regularly to even have a chance, but I was already down $300US and feeling it. Since I have little control with pussys and money after I´m drunk, I´m lucky if I could come once a month at those prices, but I´m not done yet.

Another girl, not as hot as V. had been working me also. After I was done with V she sat down and started complainning how she hadn´t made any money. I was still so horney that I suggested her comming home with me, I didn´t think she would even consider it. I was wrong, she said since I havn´t made any money how much ? I said you tell me. She said $200US for an hour, I said all night, we settled for 2 hours.

I gave her my number and she called me around 5AM and I gave her instructions to my house. Needless to say, I took my Colombian Viagara (MK Laboratories) and pounded that pink pussy mercelessly for an hour and a half. You guys know me I don´t exagerate, but it seemed like she came between 8-10 times, or she´s the best actress I´ve ever met. It seems like american women like to phuck, which I´ve always thought was true from all my past girlfriends here in the USA when I was younger. Some Pre-pagos in Colombia do to, but most are strictly about the money, that has been my experience at least.

I feel sorry for my girlfriend in Colombia, I´ve been trying to behave, but those 2 buckets of cheap beer and all that pink pussy got the best of me. By the end of the night I was out $500US, a million colombian pesos. I felt like crying, but anyways, I´ll sacrifice a few other pleasures or non essentials to re-coup some of that money back. Which is what I ussually try to do to recupperate from a drunkard spending spree. But it was lots of fun, ha,ha!

Frank Casio![/QUOTE]Its always good to hear about your adventures Frank. This will be my only reply to this before guys start flaming thats its not Medellin related.

Last night I was in De Ja Vu, which is right down the street from where you were. They don't serve liquor but get get naked. Being I live in Brandon I go there every weekend that I'm home. Once you get a regular spot and the girls know you, they will trick for 100-150 an hour after work. Last year I had such a good after hours friendship with this one girl that we went into business together. I financed a hot dog stand for her on us301 during the day. Well this one dude fell in love with her at the hot dog stand and retired her from everything. Well I've got a hot dog stand and the girl I was with last night is going to set it up at US301 and Bloomingdale, her name is Kayla. Stop by and check her out. Your handle is 500 dollar man, tell her you know Gogo.

Me and my wingman swung by to check the talent. He told me he had Johanna who I mentioned in my last post. His experience was good, so either it was bad chemistry between us or she had many clients that day.

Yesterday, I took Julianna. She gave good eye contact and the tight little body helped. A little baby fat in the cheeks but I later found out she was 18. Hmmm. The experience was good but she also said she had been working there 3 days(?). I would do her again, a little tight on entry and a little unexperienced but we had a good time. 45K. 40-45mins.

My wingman took Jennifer and gave her an average rating. Later my wingman went by Linda's Chicas and said the door had a padlock on it. Not sure if it is closed now or they just forgot to pay their insurance (bribe) premium.

Enjoy!

If you have a Citibank account in the U.S., can you withdraw cash from Citi in Medellin in US$, as well as COP? Any limit on the amount withdrawable?

Thanks a lot!

[QUOTE=Matt Psyche]If you have a Citibank account in the U.S., can you withdraw cash from Citi in Medellin in US$, as well as COP? Any limit on the amount withdrawable?

Thanks a lot![/QUOTE]The ATMs will only give your COP, no USD.

[QUOTE=Matt Psyche]If you have a Citibank account in the U.S., can you withdraw cash from Citi in Medellin in US$, as well as COP? Any limit on the amount withdrawable?

Thanks a lot![/QUOTE]Why would you want dollars anyway?

[QUOTE=Matt Psyche]If you have a Citibank account in the U.S., can you withdraw cash from Citi in Medellin in US$, as well as COP? Any limit on the amount withdrawable?

Thanks a lot![/QUOTE]

Though I have never taken that much out at a time, I heard the Citibank atms on Ave Poblado are distributing up to 2million pesos.. I have taken out personally 1.4 million.

When you guys say 40-45 min, is it MSOG, or one and done?

[QUOTE=HoleRanger]Me and my wingman swung by to check the talent. He told me he had Johanna who I mentioned in my last post. His experience was good, so either it was bad chemistry between us or she had many clients that day.

Yesterday, I took Julianna. She gave good eye contact and the tight little body helped. A little baby fat in the cheeks but I later found out she was 18. Hmmm. The experience was good but she also said she had been working there 3 days(?). I would do her again, a little tight on entry and a little unexperienced but we had a good time. 45K. 40-45mins.

My wingman took Jennifer and gave her an average rating. Later my wingman went by Linda's Chicas and said the door had a padlock on it. Not sure if it is closed now or they just forgot to pay their insurance (bribe) premium.

Enjoy![/QUOTE]

Now that the Dollhouse is closed what are the alternative bars/stripclubs in Medellin?

I'm planning a mini-vacation in December or January.

Whats the best hotel to stay at close to the action?

Also can anyone recommend a driver/guide?

There you go Mr. Gogo. Here I thought I had accomplished something great and you already had me bit by a mile. You have to introduce me to some of your girls. But I´m going back to Medellin in a couple of weeks so it will have to be on my next trip. I don´t want hispanic girls when I'm in Tampa, I have plenty of those in Colombia. I want some hot phucking american pussy. They need to get phucked just as hard, and with the economy so bad they should be thankful.

Frank Casio !

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo]Its always good to hear about your adventures Frank. This will be my only reply to this before guys start flaming thats its not Medellin related.

Last night I was in De Ja Vu, which is right down the street from where you were. They don't serve liquor but get get naked. Being I live in Brandon I go there every weekend that I'm home. Once you get a regular spot and the girls know you, they will trick for 100-150 an hour after work. Last year I had such a good after hours friendship with this one girl that we went into business together. I financed a hot dog stand for her on us301 during the day. Well this one dude fell in love with her at the hot dog stand and retired her from everything. Well I've got a hot dog stand and the girl I was with last night is going to set it up at US301 and Bloomingdale, her name is Kayla. Stop by and check her out. Your handle is 500 dollar man, tell her you know Gogo.[/QUOTE]

Hi folks,

I will be going to Medellin for 5 weeks in December (my first trip). I am going to spend the first five days at Casa Blanca 2, and the remainder at a private condo. I have a line on a 1 bedroom 2 bathroom condo in Poblado for $1275 (all utilities included) for the remainder (31 days). It is in a newer building (2007) and seems to be a decent deal compared to what else I can find. Can any veterans of MDE give me some advice, or insight as to whether the rate is fair, and if not, where I can find a better rate.

Thanks for any help.

Simon

I will be going to Manizales for a week in November. I am looking for an apartment close to Cable Plaza. Something not too expensive. Anyone have any contacts? Also looking for contact info for some local girls who would be interested in novia/friendship. Any help would be much appreciated.

Thanks,

The Vagabundo

[QUOTE=El Vagabundo]I will be going to Manizales for a week in November. I am looking for an apartment close to Cable Plaza. Something not too expensive. Anyone have any contacts? Also looking for contact info for some local girls who would be interested in novia/friendship. Any help would be much appreciated.

Thanks,

The Vagabundo[/QUOTE]

Its not too late, why dont you give Colombiancupid or Romance Latina a go?

Anyone know if there is an issue bringing girls back to the Hotel Park 10 near Parque Llere?

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver]Its not too late, why dont you give Colombiancupid or Romance Latina a go?[/QUOTE]When I go on vacation I dont want a serious girlfriend, I just want a hottie to hang out with and bang for a few days.

So my question is: how do you guys tell the regular local girls who are looking for romance apart from the Pro's on those dating sites?

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver]Its not too late, why dont you give Colombiancupid or Romance Latina a go?[/QUOTE]I have tried both websites in the past. If all you want to do is to get laid, then both of those sites work well. If you are looking for something else, it is a lot of work to cull from the herd. I have found that when there is a personal introduction, some kind of connection, it works much better for me. There is a web site, exclusively for match making in Manizales and I will try it and report back.

El Vagabundo

I will tell you this chick is a nutcase. If you don't believe me just add alcohol. I invited her over to spend time with me a couple of weeks ago and she showed up with packed bags for the long haul. I lied to get rid of her and she returned in a couple days.I said what the hell as long as she doesn't get loco I can handle the last few days with her. we go to San Carbon because I enjoy the food and atosphere there. We start with a bottle of wine(mistake) and appetizers. By the time the main course arrived she was drunk and tlking trash about how much she hates gringos. It gets no better with time. She sees a couple of girls sitting at the bar and starts to ***** them out for being lesbians. Their boyfriends soon showed up and told her she was wrong ,at this time it is time to get a to go box for my dinner and send her somewhere else. The doorman calls a cab and she curses the cab driver so I told him the address. When we arrive she jumps from the cab crying and calling everyone she knows to come get her because I have ruined her night and made her get drunk. I must have had some bad luck as not one of her friends would come to get her. I take her up to the penthouse and she is in the floor telling me how much af an asshole I am and that she is a prepago that makes more money than most people in Medellin. I am patient and I wait and she finally goes to the bathroom and throws up and showers then come to bed with me acting as nothing was wrong. I told her to go to sleep and we can discuss this later. Thank god she finally passes out. The next day she acts embarrassed about situation. She will not leave and tells me she is going to airport with me to see me off. Damn, first time in many times in Medellin I was ready to leave to get away from her.I paid her a total of 200.000 pesos per day and that food and any other things she wanted was deducted from her pay. She had told me she asks for 500.000 pesos per hour because she is that good. I told her good luck. My return to Medellin in December will not include seeing her as I wish you luck if you end up with her. December will be like the other visits to Medellin "the more the merrier". I have to say that trip reminded me of the last days of my last marriage. I still love Medellin and I am sure there are more nutcases there but I hope to avoid them in December.

Hello, all,

There is a house party on Nov 12th and 13th, if you are in Medellin, give us a call, we typically have twice as many girls as guys and the chicas are always looking for more paying men. Party is free, you just need to contribute if you drink and eat. Call Victor. [blue][Telephone Number deleted by Admin][/blue].

The party is in Envigado, very close to Oviado mall.

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[QUOTE=Shark Bait]I will tell you this chick is a nutcase. If you don't believe me just add alcohol. I invited her over to spend time with me a couple of weeks ago and she showed up with packed bags for the long haul. I lied to get rid of her and she returned in a couple days.I said what the hell as long as she doesn't get loco I can handle the last few days with her. we go to San Carbon because I enjoy the food and atosphere there. We start with a bottle of wine(mistake) and appetizers. By the time the main course arrived she was drunk and tlking trash about how much she hates gringos. It gets no better with time. She sees a couple of girls sitting at the bar and starts to ***** them out for being lesbians. Their boyfriends soon showed up and told her she was wrong ,at this time it is time to get a to go box for my dinner and send her somewhere else. The doorman calls a cab and she curses the cab driver so I told him the address. When we arrive she jumps from the cab crying and calling everyone she knows to come get her because I have ruined her night and made her get drunk. I must have had some bad luck as not one of her friends would come to get her. I take her up to the penthouse and she is in the floor telling me how much af an asshole I am and that she is a prepago that makes more money than most people in Medellin. I am patient and I wait and she finally goes to the bathroom and throws up and showers then come to bed with me acting as nothing was wrong. I told her to go to sleep and we can discuss this later. Thank god she finally passes out. The next day she acts embarrassed about situation. She will not leave and tells me she is going to airport with me to see me off. Damn, first time in many times in Medellin I was ready to leave to get away from her.I paid her a total of 200.000 pesos per day and that food and any other things she wanted was deducted from her pay. She had told me she asks for 500.000 pesos per hour because she is that good. I told her good luck. My return to Medellin in December will not include seeing her as I wish you luck if you end up with her. December will be like the other visits to Medellin "the more the merrier". I have to say that trip reminded me of the last days of my last marriage. I still love Medellin and I am sure there are more nutcases there but I hope to avoid them in December.[/QUOTE]I PMed some of this to you, but I guess since you're talking about her here I'll post some of it too.. Yes, she is a bit of a nutcase! In my case it was the opposite. I could barely get her to stay.

I met her on my first trip when she first started at the Mansion. She was asking for 100k for an hour. So on my next several trips that's what I paid here. On my last trip, she really pissed me off. She immediately orders food. She complained her ass implants hurt and stayed only for an hour so I gave here the usual 100k and she calls me "chichi pato" and says that she is not some centro ho and that she is high class. I gave her 160k and told her to get the fuck out. Keep in mind that I also got her like $50 in gifts.

On my most recent trip, I talked to her online and decided to forgive her. I got her like $30 in gifts. I saw her several times this trip and each time she stayed for a pop and was ready to leave. One time she stayed for two and she did not want to do TLN. She also flaked on me a couple times. I know the warning signs were there! One time, she brought her friend Carolina for a threesome (price was not negotiated). We went out to eat in Parque Lleras and her friend confirmed that Bibi is all about the money and that she thinks life is about money too. I had been to her house.. helped her fix her computer (2 laptops) and camera... all probably bought by dumb gringos. We got along well and she still wanted 200k for ST everytime. I gave her 150k which see seemed to be ok with. So this last time I saw her.. she comes over. we passed by some cars in the parking lot from my apartment and she was pointed out cars she wanted me to get her.. I laughed it all as a joke but I think she is serious.. LOL.. Some dumb gringo probably will get one for her! and says her computer is broken (she installed something bad). I fix it and we fuck for less than hour before she said she had to go home for lunch. We had agreed to go out to dinner some dancing later and a TLN (which after 4 times this trip she wouldn't do a TLN). She actually wanted money for the time she was there in the afternoon. Fine.. I give her 100k. She has a hissy fit, storms out and said she wanted 200k and that gringos give her 500k for TLN. Good rittens! It won't be from me! I was already given her too much for ST.

BTW, this is why I asked previously what you all see in her. It certainly isn't for her bitchy personality!

I have come to the conclusion "You can take the girl from the hood but you can't take the hood from the girl". I am sure this pertains to other places ,but I frequent Medellin more than any other place.

[QUOTE=Hioctane]I PMed some of this to you, but I guess since you're talking about her here I'll post some of it too.. Yes, she is a bit of a nutcase! In my case it was the opposite. I could barely get her to stay.

... I saw her several times this trip and each time she stayed for a pop and was ready to leave. One time she stayed for two and she did not want to do TLN. She also flaked on me a couple times. I know the warning signs were there! ...

... I had been to her house.. helped her fix her computer (2 laptops) and camera...

...all probably bought by dumb gringos.

... says her computer is broken (she installed something bad). I fix it and we fuck for less than hour before she said she had to go home for lunch. We had agreed to go out to dinner some dancing later and a TLN (which after 4 times this trip she wouldn't do a TLN). She actually wanted money for the time she was there in the afternoon. Fine.. I give her 100k. She has a hissy fit, storms out and said she wanted 200k and that gringos give her 500k for TLN. Good rittens! It won't be from me! I was already given her too much for ST.

BTW, this is why I asked previously what you all see in her. It certainly isn't for her bitchy personality![/QUOTE]

She's definitely been 'over-spoiled' by guys and thinks her 'sheeet don't stink' anymore.
You go to her house, help her out, and appears to show you little or no gratitude.

I can't believe you kept with her and kept looking for TLN with her.
Many more sweeties out there for a nice TLN and not some 'gimmee gimmee', self-important chica.

I've known her for a while too.
Never for PFP though, just as quasi-amigos.
I got hard-core vibes from her, from the start.
She's a great little actress with guys, but looks like she's in the phase of her PFP career where she thinks she's gold.

She may still be fun to be with at times, but buyer beware.
Keep your guard up.

Just another example of Golden Pussy Syndrome (GPS). Too bad! Just another example of a very stupid girl.

I recently send SEVERAL PM's to members of this board asking for their help and shared experience. The response was GREAT.... Thanks you all.

Along with all the great responses, several asked that I share the information I've gathered. I've taken out anything names or other information that I thought would specifly ID those who replied..... Well here it is.

Originally Posted by Chica Luv
-Thanks for all your great post. If you have a moment, I could use some of your hard earn insight.
-I plan on moving to and attending college somewhere in latin america. My goal is to learn spanish in a formal school setting, and put it into daily practice among the natives.
-I'm not new to the game or life.... 55 years old, a retired Marine (USMC, not merchant), and already have a degree.
-All that being said; I love fucking hot horny latin women. I already speak what I call 'stripper spanish'... enough spanish to get into trouble, but not enough to talk my way out.
-Any way, I want to live and study spanish somewhere in latin america. WHERE, is the question?
-I really don't like a lot of humidity, and I llike my women with dark eyes & dark hair, but not too negrito.
-Thought about Columbia. The danger factor doesn't really bother me. I've already been shot at too many times to care.
-Where would you recommend I go to find; horny, dark haired/eyed women, low humidity and a large city with a college?
-Also, if you ever find yourself in southern Arizona give me a call @ xxx-xxx-xxxx and I'll introduce you to a few ladies in Nogales Sonora-Thanks, Chica Luv

MANY GREAT REPLIES:

1) hi Chica luv,
-Wow. Must be nice to go back to school with those hot Latina babes!
-Medellin would be a very nice spot to learn Spanish. Search the internet for those live-in home offers with immersive Spanish programs in Medellin.
-You dont need to go to college for language training. Any immersive program where you can practice Spanish a few hours would do
-You can go to school in the day time then practice what you learn with the chica at night... what a perfect combination. I envy you.
-I do know there are many immersive Spanish programs offered in Buenos Aires. You can live
with a family as you go to school for very low costs. Bs As is a big city so there are many entertainment venues and art shows etc...
-Will definitely contact you when I am in Southern AZ. OTOH if you come to TJ make sure you let nme know. I am there just about every weekend and will buy you a few drinsk...
-Semper fi!

2) Chica hello. Colombia is the spot. The women are beautiful with lady like attitudes. the Dr is hot hot hot. Colombia is more comfortable. Are you looking to live where you study or is the stay temporary?

3) To begin with, I have not been anywhere in Latin Amercia except for Mexico. So I can't comment too much on the rest of Latin America. If I was going to do what you are planning, I would take a long hard look at Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico. A city of 6 million people with several great universities. As well as some of the most beautiful women in the world.
-Guadalajara is where the French landed. For this, the population are a mixture of Indian and French blood instead of Indian and Spanish blood like most of Mexico.
-You still find the "morenas" (dark skinned women) but not too negrito. There are also several with blue and green eyes. Pure beauty to me is dark skin, dark hair and blue eyes.
-I also agree about the hot horny latin women. They are hot and passionate. They are not like the gringas who are cold and don't know anything at all about passion. I blame the Victorian influence that permeated throught the United States for this. Mothers always telling daughters that sex is a bad thing just leads to a lack of passion.
-I would like to know Nogales someday. I have made several trips to Caborca where I have a lot of friends, but have never been to Nogales.
-I am a $$ year old gringo that lived in Mexicali for 6 years and still go there as often as I can. I learned to speak fluent Spanish in the streets of Mexicali. It did help that I was stationed in Naples, Italy for 2 years in the XXs when I was in the Navy. I learned to speak fluent Italian there through courses from the University of Maryland and in the streets of Naples. That made Spanish fairly easy to learn for me. I did take 3 years of Spanish in high school but did not learn a damn thing.
-When will you be in Mexicali? Maybe we can plan a trip to meet each other there.

4) Chica Luv If you know you're way around danger, come to Monterrey.
As close as a city can be compared to the US. Ok, I mentioned danger.
It has been hyped by the media, but still I like it here and I don't plan in moving away.
-College wise, we have the ITESM, leading institute of Mexico.
Check out what they offer: itesm.edu (They have an English protal)
-Is this what you might be intrested in? Ask your questions, no problem on my side...

5) Hello. I guess you are writing to many and you will average out replies :D
-First comment: dont think that Colombia (NOT Columbia!) is so dangerous. You dont need to be a SEAL to survive. It's actually a pleasant place. Of course, there are dangerous places, but the same happens in Washington or LA. It depends where you. If your mental attitude when you go there for the first time is like going to Afghanistan, then you are wrong.
-Said this, my suggestion for you is to spend some weeks to travel around and experience yourself before moving for an extended period. I love Colombia, but I am sure that others would tell you good things also about Peru or Equador.
-Among places I visited in Colombia, I would recommend MEdellin to work, provided that you avoid spending your time with American sex tourists, like the frequent contributors of the Medellin forum on ISG. The key would be to succeed to have good local friends there, without letting them to know that you like P4P.

6) Hello Chica Luv -I would recommend Costa Rica. I don't think it's the best these days compared to it's more former reputation with respect to mongering. But, its still got to be better than the USA. It does have a large number of immersion Spanish Schools. I would recommend you consider IPED. A Gringo runs the school. It's located a ways outside of downtown San Jose, maybe a half hour up toward the foothills and the mountains, but not too far up in them, just a little ways. It's a good school, good people. There are a number of others of them too that are just as good in San Jose. The thing about Costa Rica is that it's safe. It would be less dangerous than Colombia can be. CR is close to the US. I think the airfare is probably as reasonable as you can expect for a Latin American country. The website for the IPED School is
-I have no affiliation whatsoever with the school, but I have attended the school for about a week several years ago. I only attended the classroom instruction, but they also have a full immersion program. The school is not large, and it's in a relatively simple little building. But, the classes are small, maybe only about 6 or 7 pupils at a time. My problem is I attended the school prior to actually being ready with respect to my own skill level, and frankly, I was more focused on other activities at the time. So, I could have gotten a lot more out of it than I did at the time. At that time, my skill level was very basic. Now, at my present skill level, I think their program could probably bring me to fluency. They do give homework every night, so you will have to take some time out of your evening activities to complete the homework. If you visit the website, you'll see a photo of the staff. The Gringo that runs the school has white hair and he's standing in the back row, second in from the right. I don't recall his name...Paul or John comes to mind, but I don't remember for sure. With regard to the climate, I think it's pretty decent most of the year. With regard to the girls, they are mostly Latina, but not the negrita type you describe, which is what you would mostly find if you traveled to Cartegena, Colombia for example. So, if you mix a little academics with pleasure, you'll be in the right place, although there are a number of girls there from the DR (negritas) in San Jose. I actually spent a lot of time with a couple of girls, and one of them was from the DR. She was a good companion. Like you, she was not my choice with respect to ethnicity, but she was a good girl. On the other hand, I also spent a lot of time with a girl from Nicaragua. She was a stripper in one of the high end bars, and she was about as perfect as you can get. She was a great companion too, a little expensive, but well worth it. I remember paying her by buying her a color TV from one of the electronics box stores there, only a couple of hundred bucks, and I think she spent almost three days with me that time. She was thrilled with the color TV. The first trip I was there, I bought her a bunch of clothes. I actually hooked up with her a couple of times, and we were becoming pretty inseparable. But, I eventually lost track of her. Too bad...Funny, I wonder what percentage of girls actually remember us to the same extent we remember them. I also attended a school in Cartegena, and it was also quite advanced for my level in Spanish. And, again, at the time, I was too focused on other activities. But, the Cartegena School was good as well, part of the University system in Cartegena. I don't remember the particulars, about that school. If I find a file on it somewhere in my office, I'll forward the information to you if you're interested. The school was part of the University, and just north of the beach area about 20 minutes by taxi. Cartegena at the time was pretty safe as well, but not as safe as Costa Rica in my opinion. I don't know where it stands these days as I haven't been back there lately. With regard to their Spanish Language program, nobody speaks English in Cartegena, so you have to have some degree of proficiency to get along, as compared to Costa Rica, where if you stay at El Presidente Hotel in downtown San Jose, Costa Rica, the staff speaks English, as does the staff at IPED. So, my preference would be San Jose. You'll find that the language pronunciation in San Jose is purer than you will find in Colombia as well. And, perhaps that will aid in your actually learning the language more easily. In Cartegena they clip off a lot of the ends of the words, and it's a little harder to understand their Spanish pronunciation there. Hope that helps! And, thank you for the encouragement about my posting on ISG.

7) ex-military enlistee? then Nicaragua/Guatemala/Costa Rica probably fits you best.

8) Chica: Didn't we meet in Buenos Aires, Argentina?
-That would be my choice. I live in the S.F. Bay Area and do not like Hot and Humid. But B.A. has three months of that. December-February
-But you could stay in Mendoza for those months, or in Mar de Plata at the beach.
-There are lots of us retired there. Jackson is around your age. I am older. He could help you if and when you get there. Safety is good. There are good schools and I could recomend my teacher.
-Medellin or Bogota would be my next choice. My only reason, why I would not stay in those two cities is that they are too small and would run out of things to see and do. I can't fuck all day or night long anymore or do I want to. B.A. has so much more to see and do. I walk 5-6 hours a day there.
Anymore questions just ask.

9) The girls in Colombia are cuter than in Peru. Might be more GFE here. The climate in Medellin might be better than in Lima. However Lima climate is probably better than in Cali or Bogota. Cost of living in Medellin and Miraflores is probably about the same. Diferent language programs are available here, I don´t know how they compare to those in Medellin...you´ll have to Google. Miraflores is definitely safer, calmer than Medellin. In general no risk taking a taxi or going to an ATM. Its a toss up...you might want to hop down here and stay in an apt. for a week, then take a flight (direct on LAN) to Medellin and do the same.
-Let me know if you have any other questions

10) Hi Chica, Pereira or Armenia, why ? Weather, larger cities with the population you require without being like the Bogota/Medellin/Cartagena tourist traps. If I had to live somewhere else in Colombia other than MDE, Id pick Armenia, regards.

11) Chica, Low humidity and nice weather make it a no-brainer decision for Medellin, Colombia. Don't let the reports of incessant rain this year deter you. This year is an anamoly. Almost all of Colombia is experiencing abnormal heavy rainfall. I think it's El Niño/La Niña related.
-The only slight downside according to your criteria is the proponderance of lighter skinned and blonder haired women in MDE but I wouldn't let that deter you either. Here's why: (1) While there are more of the lighter skinned variety in MDE there are still plenty of the dark haired, olive skinned classic latina type too. And, (2) IMO, a hot chick is a hot chick. While I too prefer the classic latina look I find it really doesn't matter much when face to face with a hot sexy chic willing to fuck you. Regardless of her skin tone, eye color, hair color.
-Bogotá might be a good choice except that the weather is much rainier and colder but the availability of language institutes and chicas would be even greater than MDE due to sheer size. Bogotá is a capital city of about 7 million people (maybe too big) while MDE has about 2.1 million inhabitants.
-Other than those two the only other places I can think of you might consider are:
-Quito, Ecuador but the overall quality of the women is in no way as good as almost anywhere in Colombia or, Buenos Aires, Argentina although if you are there in the middle of summer (Nov to Feb or March) the weather is hot and very humid. Huge city, > 10 million inhabitants. Great women. More or less on par with Colombia allthough with their own characteristics that I don't have time to go into.
-Anywhere on the Caribbean coast or Cali is out due to high temps and humidity.
-sorry I don't have any recommendations regarding language institutes allthough one way I can think of for you to get great advice and guidance, besides doing your own online research, is to go stay at the Casa Blanca (formerly Medellin Mansion) complex for a week or so and use them to direct you. You'll get a good feel for MDE and it's women that way too. A lot of guys say there isn't enough to do in MDE outside of chasing women but I say that's nonsense. Among other things, I occupy my time going to gyms, pools, jogging, and in general staying fit. If you're not into fitness, your school/study routine should keep you busy enough.

12) I will take you up on that offer if I get to AZ. For Colombia it would be a dream for the women but if you cannot stand the heat... Check out Peru, Chile, Quito, Ecuado or the lower part of the continent like southern Brazil. Thats what I would think

13) Hi,contact Zing.He went to spanish school in Colombia a few months ago.

14) Don't know too much about other countries, but if you're considering Colombia, I think the main choice is either between Bogota and Medellin. Medellin has warmer weather; Bogota is cooler and has more precipitation, although Medellin has its rainy seasons. There's plenty of colleges and opportunities to learn Spanish in either city. Also both cities have small groups of expats you can make contact with. NEITHER city is cheap nowadays, especially the capitol. Bogota is more cosmopolitan, more stuff to do there if that's your thing. But with today's lousy exchange rate, Bogota in particular can be costly to live
-You can also look into the secondary cities in the "Coffee Zone" like Pereira, Armenia, Manizales. They all have colleges but they're smaller cities, less to do, less selection of women, probably not as many spanish-learning options. But cost of living is lower there.
-Then there's Cali. Cali can get hot and humid during the day although the nights are wonderful. Still, I don't think the city is good for newbies or people with weak Spanish. Not too many expats in Cali. There's a tendency for the women there to be a bit thicker and darker, although there's all types. Heck, I dated a girl there that was as light-skinned and as skinny as you can possibly get! Cost of living is a bit lower in Cali, Cali is poorer and has more social problems than MDE and BOG. I actually like Cali, but you might want to wait and get your bearings before checking it out.
-Cartagena and the other big cities on the north coast (Baranquilla, Santa Marta) are hot and humid as hell. I didn't really like Cartagena, and from what you're saying, I don't think you will either. Still, Cartagena is the main touristic city of the country and is worth a brief visit. By the way, the beaches near Santa Marta are way nicer than in CTG. Baranquilla has hotties, but it's not an expat friendly city. Add the weather and crime issues, it's not a viable option for foreigners with no Spanish.
-If you have the savings and time, I'd recommend that you do a "south american" odyssey. You can stay at youth hostels in almost any Colombian city; and in Ecuador, Peru, Bolivia, etc. there are hostels as well.
-Try to explore before you settle. It'll give you a better idea what you're really looking for and how the the different cities (and countries) compare to each other. You'll probably feel that you won't fit in with the other backpackers; just tell the kids jokingly you're sick and tired of the states and you want to do what you missed out on in your youth before you get too old. There's a few middle-aged boho type backpackers out there so it's not like you'll be a completely unique thing.
-Look up "Frugal Traveler" in the nytimes.com web site for ideas on traveling on the cheap in south america. Then there's the "couch surfing" and other similar services where you rent a room or bed in someone's apt. Again, this stuff is youth oriented but I think with the right attitude/approach, it shouldn't be a problem for you to get into these things and save yourself some money.
-As for safety, I don't think you'll have to worry about violent crime (unless you're staying in a bad part of town). But be careful with all kinds of scams, especially as your Spanish is going to be weak at first. In Bogota, watch out for scopalomine ("Burundanga") scams. Trust me, even a marine can get their drink or food spiked/poisoned. You really don't want to be a victim, it's a scary thing; you won't remember who did it to you or how it exactly happened but it can scar some people for life, and not just psychologically, some folks end up with neurological damage!
-You can also check out poorbuthappy.com, it has a colombia forum although it's closed now. But you can ready the archives, a lot of useful info from expats, not all of it is out of date. Also check out colombianblog.com or put "Colombia" and "forum" or "blog" as search terms in Google for more info.
-Well, that's all I can think of for now. Hope some of this was helpful. Good luck

15) Chica, I am sure you sent this message a few seniors. I would love to see a summary of the answers you get.
-BTW, your preference in women and places to live is identical to mine. Lear Spanish chilling out with light skinned flacas in a town with cool breezes.
-For me, outside of Mexico, it would be #1) Medellin, #2 Buenos Aires, #3) Bogota, #4) Lima #5) Quito
-Panama is too humid and San Jose CR is a dump and so is Nicaragua. Guatemala, Honduras and Belize has no lookers, same as Bolivia. Chile is expensive with fewer P4P options. I have not been to Venezuela and no Spanish in Brazil

16) Chica, I haven't been to mexico in years and only to Baja, so you will have to make up your own mind on mexico.
-dark hair, dark eyes - i also have a weakness for that combination. you find lots of girls with dark hair and dark eyes all over south america.
-the best city is buenos aires - fantastic, beautfiul, fun, lots of woman that meet your criteria. the place is one continuous fiesta - great for a visitor, can be very frustrating for a resident, more so than any other place in south america. hot and humid in summer.
-lima peru - foggy and damp like san francisco lots of the time.
-santiago chile - boring. expensive.
-medellin - can be a bit humid and rainy at times, but usually the weather is very nice lots of girls that meet your criteria, plus blondes, but not too many negritas.
-cali, cartagena, barranquilla - hot humid.
-bogota - can be chilly, very high, no humidity, girls from all over colombia, mostly dark hair/eyes. lots of things to do.
-panama city - hot humid.
-san jose costa rica - possible. havent been there in 15 years.
-santo domingo, hot humid negritas.
-overall, either san jose or medellin are your best bets, posssily bogota. other cities are too small to over english in a classroom environment.

17) think about six months ago you wrote to me with similar request. My response was "I have no idea". The response still stands.
-I don't know what makes you think that I am an authority on expat living in Latin America. It cannot be further from the truth. I visit may be two to three weeks at a time some SA countries. That's about it. That does not make me an expert.
-I think, there are much bigger issues going on here. You seem very restless and you really don't have any clear idea about what you want. Is learning Spanish a primary or secondary goal? Don't mix it up with chicas. That confuses the issue. About chicas- are you looking for totally regular girls or P4P? Do you want to settle in a beach town or mountain area? I would suggest that you compartmentalize your thoughts, assign priorities to your goals and concentrate on two to three countries at the most. Make sure, being an expat, you cannot ignore the political situation in that country also.
-I am a little older than you and work in a hospital in XXXX. When I teach a class and the students have similar problems regarding other issues, I gave them the same advice- break down the problem and address each component separately. I hope you don't mind my frank talk.
-I will strongly recommend that you post your question on every South and Central American board in ISG and see what kind of response you get. You may contact some of the posters in Expat section of the board.
-When I was in Medellin, Colombia this year, I met a guy in the Mansion who was taking Spanish class everyday in the university. This was his 50th trip to Medellin. Although, he is not living there, but you could tell he loves that place.
-I love Medellin too. There is only one season. Nice temperature all year, like San Diego. The girls look very pretty, although pure Negras are minority (you need to go to Sousa, DM for that). But there are enough available pretty girls with little darker skin, black hair, black eyes- that you will be very happy with. This will be my current recommendation.
-Lima, Peru, also has a nice university town and world famous Spanish schools. I had wonderful time in Lima and I went there many times. It is much easier to get regular girls there and they provide true GFE. But, because of their native Indian heritage, the girls may not be that pretty as compared to Colombian girls. But if learning Spanish is your primary goal, I would definitely recommend Lima. However, it can get a little chilly during August, Sept. Oct. Nonetheless, as opposed to Medellin, there are beaches in Lima.
-I am sorry; I could not be of much help, beyond this. Good luck with your search!

Thanks again to ALL. I will follow as the plan develops. Chica Luv

Has anyone figured this out, as to the address?
This what I have. Maybe someone could call them or try to locate them, I could republish My List soon.

9. [b]* Geishas, (Same owner as Puntocon),[/b] Carrera 43 # 56-47. 8 Chicas. Prices: 30k 30 min., 45k hour, 2 Chicas 50k hour. Tel: (57) (4) 291 11 82. Hours: Monday to Saturday 10am to 8pm. (#7 on Tung’s Map.)

8. [b]* Puntocon (Same owner as Geishas)[/b], Carrera 50A # 53-38. 8 Chicas. Prices: 30k 30 min., 40k 45 min., 45k hour. Tel: 291 11 82. Hours: Monday to Saturday 10am to 8pm. (#6 on Tung’s Map.)



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I have 4 or 5 I frequent now, including Geishas, which is no longer in the location given on one of the Medellin lists. If it hasn't been mentioned before, Geishas is now located in the square directly under the Prado Metro Station. It's incredibly convenient if you ride the Metro, but hard for taxi drivers to find due to the fact the road it is supposed to be on is underground in a tunnel at the location Geishas is supposed to be.

Get off at the Prado station and go down the stairs farthest to the North. When you exit the bottom of the stairs you will be in a brick paved park like area. Look about 45 degrees to the right and you will see a three story building. Geishas is through a door in the middle of that building and on the 2nd floor. There is a sign at the door saying Geishas.

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Thanks

Recommending Mexico? That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard! Colombia or Mexico? That's like comparing a Cadillac to a pickup truck! Don't got to Mexico, it sucks!

3) To begin with, I have not been anywhere in Latin Amercia except for Mexico. So I can't comment too much on the rest of Latin America. If I was going to do what you are planning, I would take a long hard look at Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico. A city of 6 million people with several great universities. As well as some of the most beautiful women in the world.

- Guadalajara is where the French landed. For this, the population are a mixture of Indian and French blood instead of Indian and Spanish blood like most of Mexico.

- You still find the "morenas" (dark skinned women) but not too negrito. There are also several with blue and green eyes. Pure beauty to me is dark skin, dark hair and blue eyes.

-I also agree about the hot horny latin women. They are hot and passionate. They are not like the gringas who are cold and don't know anything at all about passion. I blame the Victorian influence that permeated throught the United States for this. Mothers always telling daughters that sex is a bad thing just leads to a lack of passion.

-I would like to know Nogales someday. I have made several trips to Caborca where I have a lot of friends, but have never been to Nogales.

-I am a $$ year old gringo that lived in Mexicali for 6 years and still go there as often as I can. I learned to speak fluent Spanish in the streets of Mexicali. It did help that I was stationed in Naples, Italy for 2 years in the XXs when I was in the Navy. I learned to speak fluent Italian there through courses from the University of Maryland and in the streets of Naples. That made Spanish fairly easy to learn for me. I did take 3 years of Spanish in high school but did not learn a damn thing.

- When will you be in Mexicali? Maybe we can plan a trip to meet each other there.

4) Chica Luv If you know you're way around danger, come to Monterrey.

As close as a city can be compared to the US. Ok, I mentioned danger.

It has been hyped by the media, but still I like it here and I don't plan in moving away.

- College wise, we have the ITESM, leading institute of Mexico.

Check out what they offer: itesm. Edu (They have an English protal)

-Is this what you might be intrested in? Ask your questions, no problem on my side.

Sala de Masajes, CL 57 #42-12

3 Chicas working, nothing above a 5 rating. Let me out of here!

I had one beer, stuck around for 30 mins just to make sure I didn't miss anything. I didn't.

Artesanias, CL 61 # 53-78

15-20 Chicas in this place, I wasn't sure at first if I was in the right place. Everybody sitting at tables like a bar or a social gathering just talking. Had one beer, chatted with a few ladies but nothing really moved me to take them to a room.

Sexy, CR 45D #57-67

Kinda light inventory, maybe 8 working (6 were doable). I went with a sure thing. Melanie. She has picked up a few pounds since my last visit but still a good time. 30K/30 mins.

Enjoy!

[QUOTE=Chica Luv]I recently send SEVERAL PM's to members of this board asking for their help and shared experience. The response was GREAT.... Thanks you all.
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Thanks again to ALL. I will follow as the plan develops. Chica Luv[/QUOTE]Chica love. Thank you for compiling and posting all the top responses. Certainly made for an interesting read.

[QUOTE=Weak Ender]Recommending Mexico? That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard! Colombia or Mexico? That's like comparing a Cadillac to a pickup truck! Don't got to Mexico, it sucks![/QUOTE]Easy now. Respect the opinion even if you disagree. Read the question from Chica Luv and the guy that sent this response clearly is knowledgeable and sent a classy response. (Don't worry. It was not me). GDL is a beautiful college city, dry weather and loads of beautiful girls along with several opportunities to learn Spanish.

Thanks again to everyone that shared their experiences and insights. As usual, the spirit of cooperation and support from the members of these boards surpasses all others.
Chica Luv

[QUOTE=Vitrea]Easy now. Respect the opinion even if you disagree. Read the question from Chica Luv and the guy that sent this response clearly is knowledgeable and sent a classy response. (Don't worry. It was not me). GDL is a beautiful college city, dry weather and loads of beautiful girls along with several opportunities to learn Spanish.[/QUOTE]

How girl-friendly is the Holiday Inn in Medellin?

This is my third trip this year. This city just keeps on getting better and better. I arrived Medellin 11 pm night of November 2. Went straight to my favorite place Lindas Chicas.

Day 1:

I had not called Nancy at Lindas Chicas in advance but even then in 20 minutes she had one of the most Gorgeous girl by name of Eliana available to me. It was a good experience as this girl was so beautiful that I can put her one notch above Angie whom many of you guys might know. Anyways as beautiful as this girl was experience with her could have been better. She was commercially minded and eventhough I have fixed price with Lindas Chicas she negotiated with me. Lets just say I paid 50 K more than what I usually pay and she had to leave at 6 am which again was bit of situation as my price with Lindas Chica is fixed till 10 am.

Day 2:

I had a Mansion girl in the afternoon who was repeat from previous year. She is as expected amazing. Her name is also Angie at the Mansion. She gave me two pops in about hour and half session. She is very passionate girl with blond hair a bit skinny but very cute face.

Night 2:

I called up the famous Angie Lorena Munoz. I called her up and we set a date from 8 pm to 8 am. All I got to say for her is she is a keeper. Dealdo our fellow monger initially emailed me her info. My salute to Dealdo for sharing one of the very best. Angie is not for every one. She told me straight up that she does not like every one and if she does not like you then she will make some excuse to get out of the deal. My recomendation if you decide to meet Angie and if you don't feel that she likes you then don't waste your money the service quality will be terrible.

Whether she likes me or not she surely likes the reasonable amount of money I was ready to pay her. Again reasonable to me is between 300 k to 350 k for 12 hours and that is what i paid her and I am thinking about booking her for a few days.

Day 3:

I went San Jeronimo small town about 1 hour 30 minutes away from Mansion. The hotel I stayed in Hotel Quimbaya. I and friend of mine took girls from Medellin and spent one day in the hotel. Hotel charges 110k pesos per person and it is all inclusive for food and stay. This hotel has 4 pools. I took a girl from Lindas Chica for this one day trip and I was very satisfied with the service provided.

Day 4:

I came back from San Jeronimo around 1 pm yesterday and Mansion started full of girls. Marcy did an amazing job and she had 12 beautiful girls. I took Yuliana. She has a beautiful face and lovely body. My mistake did not discuss with her up front about BBBJ. She gave me covered and being an easy guy I am i just agreed. What can i say I am weak when it comes to women.

Night 4:

I was waiting for a girl from Romance Latina she was supposed to meet me at 8 pm for TLN, but around 7:30 another girl by name of Veronica showed up in Mansion. Not the white skinned Veronica but she was a Morena. Anyways, I asked her phone number and she told me she is leaving tomorrow morning to TURCA about 9 hour by bus. I told her ok then I would like to see you for couple of hours. I cancelled my TLN appointment and set it up for future date. Veronica did not turn out to be as good either.

Around 10 pm I went to Luna Luneras and found another friend from Mansion. We stayed at Luna till about 11 pm and then went to Apetiosis now club 4. This club is also good option for night time action. This is more like bario club. I had no intention of taking another girl tonight but I saw nice looking girl by name of Paula.

My day was not going to get any better negotiated 180 k for her 70 k for take out fees. Anyways again average service. Day 4 was most expensive day for me. I spent 650 k total on girls and another 100 k for food with Veronica. Fucked three girls and my day was nothing compared to any of my other 3 days.

Mansion as always is great to stay at . I think it is more of place to meet good friends who share same interests.

[QUOTE=Shark Bait]I will tell you this chick is a nutcase. If you don't believe me just add alcohol. [/QUOTE]

I'm going to over generalize here but in my experience, many of the prepagos I have seen or been out with, become very nutty when you add alcohol. It's one of the things I always warn newbies about is to keep an eye on the alcohol intake of their "date" when we go out to a club because after enough drinking the girls will be become 1) flaky 2) belligerent/loud 3) rude/disrespectful 4)tired and want to sleep or 5)all of the above. And in almost all cases they still expect to be paid. In full.

Nice report. I will be at Casa Blanca 2 Nov 25 to 30 and mansion girls and romancelatina girls will also be a part of the mix for me. And despite the expense I plan to include at least one visit to Lindas Chicas in my schedule. Last time I did a girl there named Angie and she was fantastic but I don't know if she was the same one you are talking about (blonde, pretty face, nice body although modest tits?). I did her on site and the room was very nice, spacious and clean..but to get the best value out of the substantial outlay, pulling for TLN seems to be the way to go. My dilemma though is as much as I love morning sex with a cute sweety I often sleep better alone. Was Eliana a full GFE?

Interesting about Angie Lorena. I met her back in Feb. at her place and as I reported here it didn't work out for me and I left her with a small gift but without sessioning. It wasn't an excuse she made with me, but because we didn't seem to be making a connection I asked her if she liked to kiss and she said no - dealbreaker. But nothing against her and I wasn't upset, she was friendly and polite, just a bit sullen with me getting acquainted..glad she liked you and that it worked out better for you.

[QUOTE=John]Day 1:

I had not called Nancy at Lindas Chicas in advance but even then in 20 minutes she had one of the most Gorgeous girl by name of Eliana available to me. It was a good experience as this girl was so beautiful that I can put her one notch above Angie whom many of you guys might know. Anyways as beautiful as this girl was experience with her could have been better. She was commercially minded and eventhough I have fixed price with Lindas Chicas she negotiated with me. Lets just say I paid 50 K more than what I usually pay and she had to leave at 6 am which again was bit of situation as my price with Lindas Chica is fixed till 10 am.

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Night 2:

I called up the famous Angie Lorena Munoz. I called her up and we set a date from 8 pm to 8 am. All I got to say for her is she is a keeper. Dealdo our fellow monger initially emailed me her info. My salute to Dealdo for sharing one of the very best. Angie is not for every one. She told me straight up that she does not like every one and if she does not like you then she will make some excuse to get out of the deal. My recomendation if you decide to meet Angie and if you don't feel that she likes you then don't waste your money the service quality will be terrible.

Whether she likes me or not she surely likes the reasonable amount of money I was ready to pay her. Again reasonable to me is between 300 k to 350 k for 12 hours and that is what i paid her and I am thinking about booking her for a few days.

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[QUOTE=Vitrea]Easy now. Respect the opinion even if you disagree. Read the question from Chica Luv and the guy that sent this response clearly is knowledgeable and sent a classy response. (Don't worry. It was not me). GDL is a beautiful college city, dry weather and loads of beautiful girls along with several opportunities to learn Spanish.[/QUOTE]

Actually Chica Luv has made some good contributions to the GDL board here. Anyway, having spent a lot of time in Guadalajara, I'd respectfully disagree. The city is not beautiful. I don't think the women are either, except by Mexican standards. Going to Guadalajara to get laid is about like going to Dallas to get laid, both for pros and nonpros. It's not cheap except at the low end, and the women are materialistic. They're probably just as materialistic in Colombia, but there's a lot more money floating around GDL, so it's harder to compete. The cities in Colombia that I've visited beat Guadalajara, both as a tourist destination and a place to get laid, except for Barranquilla.

"Day 4 was most expensive day for me. I spent 650 k total on girls and another 100 k for food with Veronica."

Every time I read the Colombia forum the prices seem higher and higher. When I was going to this country 5 years ago or so, prices were cheap! In Bogota, prices for 1 hour were 20,000 pesos when the peso was 2,700 to the dollar. In Medellin, it was only slightly more expensive than Bogota in the casas and almost the same price as Bogota on the street, although the girls there were mostly druggies. And service was great! That was true for every city. None of this condom for blow job, and other passive aggressive ways of telling you to go fuck yourself.

Has the country changed so much or is it the type of tourist that is going what changed?

[QUOTE=Black Hawk69]Anyone know this girl? Name is Caroline.[/QUOTE]She got you hooked huh? Why do you ask? Maybe if you explained the situation it would be better.

She is beautiful, has a great smile and personality and works you know where.

In the last five years, Colombian (and Brazilian, Peru and others) GDP increased by 50% while the USA GDP increased by 10%. In addition (accordingly), COL Peso became stronger against the US $ by 30%. Colombia will maintain the same price for Americans if and only if the USA will have annual GDP growth similar to South America. Simply impossible.

[QUOTE=Cuba Tourist]"Day 4 was most expensive day for me. I spent 650 k total on girls and another 100 k for food with Veronica."

Every time I read the Colombia forum the prices seem higher and higher. When I was going to this country 5 years ago or so, prices were cheap! In Bogota, prices for 1 hour were 20,000 pesos when the peso was 2,700 to the dollar. In Medellin, it was only slightly more expensive than Bogota in the casas and almost the same price as Bogota on the street, although the girls there were mostly druggies. And service was great! That was true for every city. None of this condom for blow job, and other passive aggressive ways of telling you to go fuck yourself.

Has the country changed so much or is it the type of tourist that is going what changed?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Cuba Tourist]"Day 4 was most expensive day for me. I spent 650 k total on girls and another 100 k for food with Veronica."

Every time I read the Colombia forum the prices seem higher and higher. When I was going to this country 5 years ago or so, prices were cheap! In Bogota, prices for 1 hour were 20,000 pesos when the peso was 2,700 to the dollar. In Medellin, it was only slightly more expensive than Bogota in the casas and almost the same price as Bogota on the street, although the girls there were mostly druggies. And service was great! That was true for every city. None of this condom for blow job, and other passive aggressive ways of telling you to go fuck yourself.

Has the country changed so much or is it the type of tourist that is going what changed?[/QUOTE]It isn't just Colombia. Look at what the prices for P4P have done in the same time period in almost every other country in the world and you will see that it is just world wide "pussy inflation".

Hi Cuba,

The country is changing, the people are changing. More girls going to College and being fead american feminist values. Also the economy changed in the last five years, sky rocketing real estate. I was able to buy low, so I got lucky and made some money in real estate. People feel better about themselves and the country, hence they expect more.

You can still do cheap, but you have to know how to do it and who to do it with. Go to [url]www.******************.com[/url] or [url]www.******************.com[/url] and you will learn how you can still do a lot with $30-$50US. Make sure you read every section as the information is spread out.

Frank Casio !

[QUOTE=Cuba Tourist]"Day 4 was most expensive day for me. I spent 650 k total on girls and another 100 k for food with Veronica."

Every time I read the Colombia forum the prices seem higher and higher. When I was going to this country 5 years ago or so, prices were cheap! In Bogota, prices for 1 hour were 20,000 pesos when the peso was 2,700 to the dollar. In Medellin, it was only slightly more expensive than Bogota in the casas and almost the same price as Bogota on the street, although the girls there were mostly druggies. And service was great! That was true for every city. None of this condom for blow job, and other passive aggressive ways of telling you to go fuck yourself.

Has the country changed so much or is it the type of tourist that is going what changed?[/QUOTE]

Hi guy,

I could be wrong, but that corner where she is sitting looks like Luna Lunera on Ave. 33, but there isn´t enough for me to be sure.

Frank Casio !

[QUOTE=Black Hawk69]Anyone know this girl? Name is Caroline.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Cuba Tourist]"Day 4 was most expensive day for me. I spent 650 k total on girls and another 100 k for food with Veronica."

Every time I read the Colombia forum the prices seem higher and higher. When I was going to this country 5 years ago or so, prices were cheap! In Bogota, prices for 1 hour were 20,000 pesos when the peso was 2,700 to the dollar. In Medellin, it was only slightly more expensive than Bogota in the casas and almost the same price as Bogota on the street, although the girls there were mostly druggies. And service was great! That was true for every city. None of this condom for blow job, and other passive aggressive ways of telling you to go fuck yourself.

Has the country changed so much or is it the type of tourist that is going what changed?[/QUOTE]

Nice, you pretty much answered your own questions, weaker dollar, stronger peso, inflation and a gringo influx just equals bad news. How did it feel spending $400 a day in Colombia?

[QUOTE=Black Hawk69]Anyone know this girl? Name is Caroline.[/QUOTE]

Shes looks like shes sitting on the steps of a gringos apartment at one of those Indian guys Romance Latina parties, lol..

[QUOTE=Black Hawk69]Anyone know this girl? Name is Caroline.[/QUOTE]
I think this is the same one I met a few times -- 27 (28 or 29 by now), first time I met her she was in lleras with a few girls and a gringo and looking lonely so I said what's up.

From my notes, she lives in Castilla, two kids, one that is 11 and doesn't live with her. Decent rack. Long story short, she wouldn't let me close the deal the same night - we did make out, but she didn't seem worth the discussion of trying to see if some pesos would change her mind. I cut my losses short that first time and went for a sure thing with some another spinner that night. I met her once or twice after that but it was always her coming out with a friend to meet my friends and me at a disco and hang out with us.

[QUOTE=Bonhead]I think this is the same one I met a few times -- 27 (28 or 29 by now), first time I met her she was in lleras with a few girls and a gringo and looking lonely so I said what's up.

From my notes, she lives in Castilla, two kids, one that is 11 and doesn't live with her. Decent rack. Long story short, she wouldn't let me close the deal the same night - we did make out, but she didn't seem worth the discussion of trying to see if some pesos would change her mind. I cut my losses short that first time and went for a sure thing with some another spinner that night. I met her once or twice after that but it was always her coming out with a friend to meet my friends and me at a disco and hang out with us.[/QUOTE]93. 157. 146. 106 85. 17. 184. 209 92. 251. 119. 45 89. 238. 173. 231 91. 201. 66. 29 123. 125. 156. 174 117. 192. 138. 143 66. 90. 75. 80 71. 204. 104. 144 89. 77. 65. 112 85. 17. 184. 209 194. 8. 75. 44 88. 203. 56. 222 85. 17. 184. 209 64. 251. 17. 113 213. 5. 67. 185 213. 5. 66. 16 199. 15. 234. 9 194. 8. 75. 44 79. 125. 35. 213 195. 54. 162. 128 95. 66. 7. 1 213. 5. 66. 16 213. 5. 67. 185 Hello, Bonhead, you are correct about her. I'm an opened minded guy and hope we can have a civilized discussion on what you just did. We never know what the true situation is when jumping into these type of posts. The least the guy could do is explain his motives. And why he is inquiring about this person. If anyone feels I'm wrong please jump in and explain your points.

I had a simular situation in 07. I was at a bar in the Dominican Republic when I established a friendship with this beautiful Haitiana. She explained that she was married and her husband lives in Texas. He only visited her every six months but he sent her money monthly. Well she no longer loved him and they were getting a divorce. She had a new guy that she loved. Her husband was very jealous and abusive(she said). Well they were in litigation and he wanted to prove her unfaithful so he wouldn't have to pay alimony. Well a month later a guy does his first post on ISG with the handle"Just Checking888" and posts this Haitianas picture asking for info. I asked are you the husband and he denies it and says I'm crazy. We go back and forth for a couple posts and he disappears, never to post again. Some guys could be stalkers, abusers, family members, or boyfriends or husbands. Are we obligated to assist these guys? If a guy has a bad situation with a girl and explains that, maybe we can chime in about our experiences with her(I wouldn't). But to assist a guy with personal info not knowing the situation is wrong.

We all have met girls we get attached to and want to find out how much mileage she has on her, but is ISG the place for that? And should we really care? If you meet a trick that fucks daily at Luna Luneras why come on ISG asking who knows her?

I'm not playing Captain save a ho, and this is not an attack on the guy that posted the pics or you. I just feel its very suspect when someone is posting pictures and names asking for info without explaining why. It sneaky.

If I'm out of line I deserve to be called on it, it may add a new perspective to my thought process. As I said I'm an open minded guy.

[QUOTE=Black Hawk69]Anyone know this girl? Name is Caroline.[/QUOTE]Carolina. I had a couple of times back at the Mansion in '07.

[QUOTE=Black Hawk69]Anyone know this girl? Name is Caroline.[/QUOTE]


She was just finishing her time at the Mansion when I was there three years ago.

My wing man enjoyed her company 8/08.

I recently heard she could be found at Luna Lunera.

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver]Nice, you pretty much answered your own questions, weaker dollar, stronger peso, inflation and a gringo influx just equals bad news. How did it feel spending $400 a day in Colombia?[/QUOTE]

I have many a time come across reports once I post that I over spend. Ok here is the situation. I fly from Toronto to Medellin it cost me $ 1,000. Second I stay in Mansion it cost me about $ 100 per day. Let's say if I am making a trip for 10 days. My start up cost only including flight and Hotel at Mansion is $ 200 per day. Now think about it what is an extra $ 50 to $ 100 per day to get a great experience.

I am honest about my reports and you are right that if i spent $ 400 on girls in a day and none of them turned out to be fantastic experience then I am wasting my money.

Generally I only get 1 day in the whole trip which goes bad and that also once in may be 3 or 4 trips.

Now let's boil down the money issue. All currency below is US$.

Many of the guys coming to Medellin could be clearing for example 50 k a year after taxes. Now let's say for them $ 10 has very insignificant value.

Now compare that to a guy who clear 200 k per year after taxes. To a person making 200 k, $ 50 is like same as $ 10 for a guy making 50 k per year.

Now just multiply the 200 k figure and say a guy clearing Million dollars a year for him $ 100 has very little value.

Bottom line money has it's different perspective for different people.

IMHO it is best to stop discussing money and more the experience. If you can get the same girls for less than I can then not necessarily you are more smarter than me. It is simple how much of a haggle are you willing to make for that extra money.


Regards,


John.

Confirmed, I saw her at Luna Lunera last week.

[QUOTE=Papi Que Rico]She was just finishing her time at the Mansion when I was there three years ago.

My wing man enjoyed her company 8/08.

I recently heard she could be found at Luna Lunera.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Black Hawk69]Mr Gogo,

I did not have to give a reason, because for one it is none of your fricking business. I simply asked a question, and the membership had the choice to answer it or not. The ISG is not an investigative forum, so there is no need for questions such as what you are asking. For your inquiring mind, I have never met the girl, and probably will not, but I was curious about a few things she had told me during a few telephone conversations, and my intuition told me she was probably a puta who has worked at the mansion in the past, and obviously my intuition was correct.[/QUOTE]You come on a public forum asking for info, but don't feel you have to share your info? So be it. Thats why I chose NOT to give you info in your first post. Now your second post shouldve been your first post. Happy hunting to you.

To the forum am I asking to much to want info regarding a picture request for info? Ie. We banged this girl at the mansion or this girl stole my wallet or I like this girl and want to marry her. Someone tell me I'm wrong besides" its not my fricking business".

[QUOTE=Black Hawk69]Mr Gogo,

I did not have to give a reason, because for one it is none of your fricking business. I simply asked a question, and the membership had the choice to answer it or not. The ISG is not an investigative forum, so there is no need for questions such as what you are asking. For your inquiring mind, I have never met the girl, and probably will not, but I was curious about a few things she had told me during a few telephone conversations, and my intuition told me she was probably a puta who has worked at the mansion in the past, and obviously my intuition was correct.[/QUOTE]You come on a public forum asking for info, but don't feel you have to share your info? So be it. Thats why I chose NOT to give you info in your first post. Now your second post shouldve been your first post. Happy hunting to you.

To the forum am I asking to much to want info regarding a picture request for info? Ie. We banged this girl at the mansion or this girl stole my wallet or I like this girl and want to marry her. Someone tell me I'm wrong besides" its not my fricking business".

After extensive research on the Medellin forum, I've decided to do four weeks in El Centro. Special thanks to Tungurahua and Artisttyp for describing with great detail the sleaze which has attracted me there.

I like to get my mongering done early in the day allowing more time for serious drinking. Can anyone tell me if there is daytime action in Mayorista? If not, what time does the first girl pop her pretty little head out?

I'm trying to gage taxi fares and have seen examples like Centro to Mayorista 8 to 10 k, Centro to Poblado 4 to 5 k. Can anyone tell me what the meter starts at when they drop the flag and the rate per km?

Thanks in advance

she is a regular lover of mine, I would have helped the brother out. It might make you feel good to fuck what someone else is paying for but would you like knowing that you are paying for the world to fuck your woman. You could have given him an idea and then moved on... You did not need to get involved anymore then that.

Just would have helped him out as I would have liked to be helped out. I have a wife in Colombia and I too have been played. Someone telling me that she found another in March and not July would have saved me over 250K.

Yes, I would have helped him out.


[QUOTE=Mr Gogo]93. 157. 146. 106 85. 17. 184. 209 92. 251. 119. 45 89. 238. 173. 231 91. 201. 66. 29 123. 125. 156. 174 117. 192. 138. 143 66. 90. 75. 80 71. 204. 104. 144 89. 77. 65. 112 85. 17. 184. 209 194. 8. 75. 44 88. 203. 56. 222 85. 17. 184. 209 64. 251. 17. 113 213. 5. 67. 185 213. 5. 66. 16 199. 15. 234. 9 194. 8. 75. 44 79. 125. 35. 213 195. 54. 162. 128 95. 66. 7. 1 213. 5. 66. 16 213. 5. 67. 185 Hello, Bonhead, you are correct about her. I'm an opened minded guy and hope we can have a civilized discussion on what you just did. We never know what the true situation is when jumping into these type of posts. The least the guy could do is explain his motives. And why he is inquiring about this person. If anyone feels I'm wrong please jump in and explain your points.

I had a simular situation in 07. I was at a bar in the Dominican Republic when I established a friendship with this beautiful Haitiana. She explained that she was married and her husband lives in Texas. He only visited her every six months but he sent her money monthly. Well she no longer loved him and they were getting a divorce. She had a new guy that she loved. Her husband was very jealous and abusive(she said). Well they were in litigation and he wanted to prove her unfaithful so he wouldn't have to pay alimony. Well a month later a guy does his first post on ISG with the handle"Just Checking888" and posts this Haitianas picture asking for info. I asked are you the husband and he denies it and says I'm crazy. We go back and forth for a couple posts and he disappears, never to post again. Some guys could be stalkers, abusers, family members, or boyfriends or husbands. Are we obligated to assist these guys? If a guy has a bad situation with a girl and explains that, maybe we can chime in about our experiences with her(I wouldn't). But to assist a guy with personal info not knowing the situation is wrong.

We all have met girls we get attached to and want to find out how much mileage she has on her, but is ISG the place for that? And should we really care? If you meet a trick that fucks daily at Luna Luneras why come on ISG asking who knows her?

I'm not playing Captain save a ho, and this is not an attack on the guy that posted the pics or you. I just feel its very suspect when someone is posting pictures and names asking for info without explaining why. It sneaky.

If I'm out of line I deserve to be called on it, it may add a new perspective to my thought process. As I said I'm an open minded guy.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Justafool]she is a regular lover of mine, I would have helped the brother out. It might make you feel good to fuck what someone else is paying for but would you like knowing that you are paying for the world to fuck your woman. You could have given him an idea and then moved on. You did not need to get involved anymore then that.

Just would have helped him out as I would have liked to be helped out. I have a wife in Colombia and I too have been played. Someone telling me that she found another in March and not July would have saved me over 250K.

Yes, I would have helped him out.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your reply, and I will process this in my future thinking. Maybe I was excessive but it also makes me understand why the veterans keep their secrets. I should have probaly kept quiet but I know the girl personally and she is as nice as they come, and very talented.

[QUOTE=John]
Bottom line money has it's different perspective for different people.

IMHO it is best to stop discussing money and more the experience. If you can get the same girls for less than I can then not necessarily you are more smarter than me. It is simple how much of a haggle are you willing to make for that extra money.


Regards,


John.[/QUOTE]

Yeah? Well I have quite enough money and travel quite a bit on business and pleasure quite frequently but I still like to haggle with the putas. What do you pay your girls the first asking price that comes out of your mouth? What kind of chica negotiating skill is that? Do you not feel you should pay the "market rate" to make a vain effort to try and keep things consistent? Sure If I can get the same chica cheaper than you than its good for me. If you pay what they ask without negotiating, hey better you than me. je je

If you pay over the odds chances are the chica will NOT respect you.

You may have well hung a sign over you saying "mark" or "mug". As soon as you pay double\tripple the local rate I'd say you've driven a wedge between you and the chica.

[QUOTE=Matt Psyche]In the last five years, Colombian (and Brazilian, Peru and others) GDP increased by 50% while the USA GDP increased by 10%. In addition (accordingly), COL Peso became stronger against the US $ by 30%. Colombia will maintain the same price for Americans if and only if the USA will have annual GDP growth similar to South America. Simply impossible.[/QUOTE]

Sorry, is that a typo? are you saying that Colombia's GDP increased by 50% (fifty percent) over the past 5 years? I'm trying to say (politely) that I don't think this is correct.

here is some info re growth in gdp, I don't know if it's correct
[url]http://www.indexmundi.com/colombia/gdp_real_growth_rate.html[/url]

[url]http://www.investincolombia.com.co/why-colombia.html[/url]

After spending several months in Colombia this my thoughtfull conclusion.

I have hot girls for dates, but since I can not meet with them after having returned home. Please PM me if interested.

I this case your obligation is to her and not him. If it was just a "dime a doze" then I would say rat her out!

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo]Thanks for your reply, and I will process this in my future thinking. Maybe I was excessive but it also makes me understand why the veterans keep their secrets. I should have probaly kept quiet but I know the girl personally and she is as nice as they come, and very talented.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Colashermosas]After spending several months in Colombia this my thoughtfull conclusion.

I have hot girls for dates, but since I can not meet with them after having returned home. Please PM me if interested.[/QUOTE]Jackson, why are you letting this guy pimp his services? 3 of his last 5 (total) posts are offering the same thing. I don't even know if it's safe to even contact this guy. Beware!

[QUOTE=Biffa]If you pay over the odds chances are the chica will NOT respect you.

You may have well hung a sign over you saying "mark" or "mug". As soon as you pay double\tripple the local rate I'd say you've driven a wedge between you and the chica.[/QUOTE]If you think I have $$$$$$ signs over my face. So be it. I don't care how much money you have and how you spend your money. Did I ever tell you that you are cheap. I respect your opinion. I think it is best that we keep all our negotiations to our selves.

Regards,

John.

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[QUOTE=John]If you think I have $$$$$$ signs over my face. So be it. I don't care how much money you have and how you spend your money. Did I ever tell you that you are cheap. I respect your opinion. I think it is best that we keep all our negotiations to our selves.

Regards,

John.[/QUOTE]

Amen to that.

As a fellow Canadian allow me to try and fashion a compromise. In some cases by not haggling down to the last peso, a gringo (like John) may likely (but not in all cases) improve his experience with a chica. Conversely a gringo that jumps at the first price no matter how ridiculously high is likely to be seen as an easy mark (or chump) and may (but not in all cases) be exploited by a chica.

That said, I think John's point was that if he's losing US$25 ($50,000 pesos) by not haggling he doesn't consider it as exploitation because he's dropped US$2,000 just to be in Medellin and $25 in his universe isn't worth the effort. This line of reasoning will always upset the Cartel here on ISG who believe in strict price controls.

As and aside, I've never really understood why having the respect of a girl who takes your money (and money from many others) for sex is important to some, but as the French say Chacon a son gout.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo]
To the forum am I asking to much to want info regarding a picture request for info? Ie. We banged this girl at the mansion or this girl stole my wallet or I like this girl and want to marry her. Someone tell me I'm wrong besides" its not my fricking business".[/QUOTE]

I think you are right. How would Blackhawk react if his question was only answered by "yes" or "no".

[QUOTE=Sexmetv]
... As a fellow Canadian allow me to try and fashion a compromise. In some cases by not haggling down to the last peso, a gringo (like John) may likely (but not in all cases) improve his experience with a chica. Conversely a gringo that jumps at the first price no matter how ridiculously high is likely to be seen as an easy mark (or chump) and may (but not in all cases) be exploited by a chica ...

[/QUOTE]


With the influx of gringos (US, Canada, Europe, Aus, etc) into Colombia over the recent years, there really are no price controls.
Too many guys for that, too many newbies for that, too many opinions.
That's just the way it is. No use grumbling about it.

There will always be the hard-core, hot chicas who have been highly (over) paid by some sex-starved gringos, and of course they will continue to seek that payout.
They're not going to respect you any more if you pay high or if ya pay low, and it really doesn't matter, they're just going thru the motions anyway.

There will, however, always be the sweet chicas, who will readily accept a fair price, especially if they dig you a bit, and they'll show ya the love, the GFE.

I'm not a haggler. Not into heavy negotiation. Never have been.
I enjoy the illusion or the reality that 'she likes me and I lke her', and the bickering or negotiating over money, extras, etc just doesn't do it for me.

Some guys dig the negotiation, some guys dig throwing out the money and some guys just don't know any better.

If a chica asks for a ridiculous amount, I don't counter or negotiate, I just move on.
I don't like hard-core chicas like this and have found that they, more times than not, lack greatly in the cama anyway.

Experienced guys know that the amount you pay does NOT correlate to the quality of the experience when it comes to PFP and more times than not, in my experience anyway, it has been the contrary, with some low cost chicas giving the best service.

IMO, being able to converse, make a chica laugh and dig ya a bit and bonding is what gets ya a great time, not haggling with a chica over prices.
As always, to each his own.
It's cliche, but 'life is short, ya might as well enjoy it'.

[QUOTE=Hioctane]Jackson, why are you letting this guy pimp his services? 3 of his last 5 (total) posts are offering the same thing. I don't even know if it's safe to even contact this guy. Beware![/QUOTE]Damn bro,

You are like the morality police lately on here and CRT!

[QUOTE=Ricker]IMO, being able to converse, make a chica laugh and dig ya a bit and bonding is what gets ya a great time, not haggling with a chica over prices.

As always, to each his own.

It's cliche, but 'life is short, ya might as well enjoy it'.[/QUOTE]I don't have experience at all in the world of prostitution, but what you say makes sense to me, I think even if you pay a girl you can't avoid the seduction process, because seduction is everywhere, and a girl who enjoy your company can only give a better service. I'm young but I think even a man in his 50's or even later can make it a good moment for the chica aswell as for him. Its a 2 ways process.

The city of Medellin just keeps getting better and better. Damn I am in love. I can't decide how to even begin writing about my experiences in Medellin. We had by far the best group of people staying at Mansion this last week. Every one is on the same page and I don't see even one guy this time at the Mansion who I would not want to know.

One of my very good friends arranged a Lesbian show by some very experienced girls. The whole show lasted 90 minutes. We were 10 guys including Greg each pitched in 25 k pesos. Greg let Mark a new manager at Mansion partake for his money. Oh my God the best $17 I ever spent. In the back ground we were continuously playing the song by name of Repent. Ok just to give you guys a clue, the show was so great that all of us guys were singing the song REPENT all day and I am sure for the rest of our lives any one of us ever hear this song again we will surely flash back to Medellin's Infamous Lesbian Show.

As per my personal experiences I am posting a pic of girl (photo given by Eliana) attached in which her face is not showing. Ohhhhhhhhhhh she still hurts. I have spent two nights with her. I will always remember that this quality of girls one after the other in my bed make me say to myself that these girls will not even look back at me for even a split second in the Sex Prisons of the world and for sure I will have to pay 8 to 10 times mor in Sex Prison for TLN compared to what I paid this girl. I paid $200 to this girl for TLN and for sure many a guys will gladly pay $2,000 for this girl overnight in USA or in Canada as well. By the way this girl name is Eliana and she has two very similar beautiful friends.

By now I have spent 4 nights with Angie Lorena Munoz. Oh my God I am in love. I had a deal with her to spend 3 days and nights with me continuously for a fixed amount of money. My experience with her after first day was so great that I was falling in love with this girl which under no circumstances I can allow myself. So I made another deal with her 3 full days she will spend with me but in parts and I am paying her same amount of money. Works better for me as it gives both of us some time to replenish some energy.

Rest other girls I have spent time with in Medellin have all been great. For now I have introduced girls at Mansion who have also brought friends to the Mansion. Some of you will eventually have to thank me for introducing some great talent to the Mansion. My only request to Greg was that these girls need to keep Private until I leave from Medellin which is on 16th of November. Greg was nice enough to agree.

This trip Greg has been accomodating as a very good host and they are once again doing great job at the Mansion. By the way for now Marcy has quit from the Mansion for some of her own reasons. IMHO she may come back. If she does return great. Otherwise I prey for her best. She has been an excellent host to us Mongers over the period of last two to three years.

Anyways I hope to see some more passionate girls at the Mansion. Previously Mansion girls used to be extremely friendly and were great company but sad to say that Mansion now has some girls who are not as Passionate as to Mansion code. Secondly, previously it was considered a pre-condition for a girl to work at the Mansion that she was to provide BBBJ without even negotiating but now we have to negotiate some services. I hope things will change for the better at the Mansion. For now I have my own rolodex that I can't seem to finish.

I have a big problem too many girls and too little time even when I am staying for 14 days in the Heavenly city of Medellin. Today is November 11, 2010 and I will always remember that this was the day that I once again fall in love with Angie Lorena Munoz. Oh my God what a great provider. By the way Angie is now about to become a professional Model in Colombia.

Yes my friends I have a future Colombian Model in my bed room sleeping in my bed in room 9 at Casa Blanca 2. She will be on Cosmovision television on November 21, 2010. I hope she will continue to be friends with me. I wish her all the success in her career, but meanwile I am a little concerned that I may end up losing an extremely beautiful friend.

Regards,

John.

Lindas Chicas unfortunately currently has changed for the worse. Nancy the owner told me that 10 of her girls were taken by some one and sent to Ecuador. Her explanation does not make much sense but for us Mongers, I would suggest to keep away for a few months while she builds up her inventory of Girls.

I still go to Lindas Chicas because for me she pulls out on call girls who are not sitting at her place but she has to call them. Photo posted by name of Eliana was introduced to me by Nancy at Lindas Chicas.

As per Loutron, I and two of my friends went to Loutron yesterday. I just went to see the line up but was not much impressed. Their were some 20 + girl at 2:00 pm at Loutron but none of jumped at me. One of my friends took one girl from Loutron but he was also not impressed with the service quality.

Charges at Loutron are now 210 k pesos for one hour. You can do the girl at Loutron or bring her back to the Mansion, your one hour start when you reach your room at the Mansion.

regards,

John.

[QUOTE=Ricker] Experienced guys know that the amount you pay does NOT correlate to the quality of the experience when it comes to PFP and more times than not, in my experience anyway, it has been the contrary, with some low cost chicas giving the best service.

IMO, being able to converse, make a chica laugh and dig ya a bit and bonding is what gets ya a great time, not haggling with a chica over prices.

As always, to each his own.

It's cliche, but 'life is short, ya might as well enjoy it'.[/QUOTE]I agree with you 500%. More money doesn't mean more pleasure or better quality of service. All up to the state of chicas' mind. When you and chica have coincident chemistry in actions, you can double your pleasure.

John!

I have been in the state you are in now.

Then you discover that they are just young girls and many of them are hot.

In Medellin there are 100, 000 hotties!!

Calm down!

Dont pay so much!

They are not super in any way, many of this hotties actually are not properly educated. Thay often have problem spelling in their native language. They don´t know much about the world at all.

You can pay them $200- $500.

Or $50 TDL, which the standard price at Aquellos in parque Lleras excl. drinks etc. (=75-100, depending on circumstances). For a Hottie!

I´m not negative, just realist.

why should a gringo with skills and a good life be so extremly impressed over having sex with an girl who has almost never left her neighbourhood.

I have been like that. It´s a nembies mistake. They are from heaven, it´s fantastic !! In my country this would cost..bla bla bla.

Relax John!

Take a closer look on the local market and you will find equal girls for a lot less money, or better educated who even might speak english and ..etc..

Good Luck Pixelpirata

[QUOTE=John]Lindas Chicas unfortunately currently has changed for the worse. Nancy the owner told me that 10 of her girls were taken by some one and sent to Ecuador. Her explanation does not make much sense but for us Mongers, I would suggest to keep away for a few months while she builds up her inventory of Girls.

I still go to Lindas Chicas because for me she pulls out on call girls who are not sitting at her place but she has to call them. Photo posted by name of Eliana was introduced to me by Nancy at Lindas Chicas.

As per Loutron, I and two of my friends went to Loutron yesterday. I just went to see the line up but was not much impressed. Their were some 20 + girl at 2:00 pm at Loutron but none of jumped at me. One of my friends took one girl from Loutron but he was also not impressed with the service quality.

Charges at Loutron are now 210 k pesos for one hour. You can do the girl at Loutron or bring her back to the Mansion, your one hour start when you reach your room at the Mansion.

regards,

John.[/QUOTE]Buddy,

It is great to read your post. I took a few friends of mine (different group) their over the last 2 months. They were first timers. They actually like the quality of the girls BUT the service "Sucked" in a bad way. In addition, the majority of the girls asked for "Propina" (Tip) after. My one friend (Speaks fluent Spanish) felt like he was back in Tijuana! Its really sad cause it use to be generally a great place. The layout is nice, hostess's very nice but I think that place is now "Gringoized".

My buddy's wanted to go as it is the "Famous" Loutrons, However, they had a better time at the smaller casas.

Thanks for the post.

KB151

[QUOTE=John]Lindas Chicas unfortunately currently has changed for the worse. Nancy the owner told me that 10 of her girls were taken by some one and sent to Ecuador. Her explanation does not make much sense but for us Mongers, I would suggest to keep away for a few months while she builds up her inventory of Girls.

I still go to Lindas Chicas because for me she pulls out on call girls who are not sitting at her place but she has to call them. Photo posted by name of Eliana was introduced to me by Nancy at Lindas Chicas.

As per Loutron, I and two of my friends went to Loutron yesterday. I just went to see the line up but was not much impressed. Their were some 20 + girl at 2:00 pm at Loutron but none of jumped at me. One of my friends took one girl from Loutron but he was also not impressed with the service quality.

Charges at Loutron are now 210 k pesos for one hour. You can do the girl at Loutron or bring her back to the Mansion, your one hour start when you reach your room at the Mansion.

Regards,

John.[/QUOTE]Your reports remind me the time when I used to go to Mdn more than ten years ago. I used to have my clients in Mdn and to go there every 3 months. Back then, everything was very reasonable: hotel, food, drinks. Discoteque. Currency rate, and chicas. Specially chicas were very friendly and girlfriend-like. Whenever and wherever you go out with girls, the rest of chicas looked at you with enviousness. In fact, the chicas usually desperated to go out with foreigners, not for the money, but for tasting of foreign cultures. 30-50K pesos was suficient for TLN. They wanted to stay until breakfast(for them they could have free breakfast if they stay with you till morning). Loutron was really special place for the visitors. They were treated you like royal family. Chicas were very beautiful. Last July when I was in Mdn, I stopped there and was very disappointed by their service and quality of chicas. I miss my old days. But surely I can locate some quality girls without paying much money that you are talking about. It will happen to you when some good colombian frinds introduce their friends to go out. Still very much possible like what I do in Bogota.

Good Luck Guys.

Angie is one of the most hard core putas in Colombia, never mind just Medellin or Cali.. Why don't you become one of her many Western Union novios? She asked me for a propina because she wants to get a tit job! A few more gringos like you and she'll be well on her way, jajajjaja lol

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver]Angie is one of the most hard core putas in Colombia, never mind just Medellin or Cali.. Why don't you become one of her many Western Union novios? She asked me for a propina because she wants to get a tit job! A few more gringos like you and she'll be well on her way, jajajjaja lol[/QUOTE]The Medellin wave has crested and what is left on the beach is an interior, backwater provincial town. A dump actually. If you spend more than a couple days there, you'll know that all too clearly. Unless you're from a nowhere flyover place or a dullard homeland city yourself, in which case you mighn't notice the difference. But, if you like to join a circle jerk discussing 30-year-old mother-of-three hookers, and who had her first back in 2007, then Medellin might be just the place for you. Not knocking it; it is what it is. And, if its for you, enjoy Medellin for all its worth. It's a place where a lower caste/budget male can get himself laid without busting his wallet.

Girls are every where but you can find the most beautiful girls from different part of the world at [url]http://www.latineuro.com[/url]. Visit the site now and be inspired by the most beautiful faces!

[QUOTE=John]Lindas Chicas unfortunately currently has changed for the worse. Nancy the owner told me that 10 of her girls were taken by some one and sent to Ecuador. Her explanation does not make much sense but for us Mongers, I would suggest to keep away for a few months while she builds up her inventory of Girls.

I still go to Lindas Chicas because for me she pulls out on call girls who are not sitting at her place but she has to call them. Photo posted by name of Eliana was introduced to me by Nancy at Lindas Chicas.

As per Loutron, I and two of my friends went to Loutron yesterday. I just went to see the line up but was not much impressed. Their were some 20 + girl at 2:00 pm at Loutron but none of jumped at me. One of my friends took one girl from Loutron but he was also not impressed with the service quality.

Charges at Loutron are now 210 k pesos for one hour. You can do the girl at Loutron or bring her back to the Mansion, your one hour start when you reach your room at the Mansion.

Regards,

John.[/QUOTE]I was in MDE two weeks ago.

Never had a girl from Lindas Chicas before so decided to give them a try. Thinking it was a 24/7 service and that most business is usually at night, I decided to call her at 1am. I told her what I liked and said I would be there at 2am. Sadly, no girls showed up (they were sleeping) and there was only two girls on premises. They say to come back tomorrow at 7-8pm. I was leaving the next day so I didn't get a chance to go back, but this is not 24/7 service!

I also went to Loutron. I never tried a girl from there before. Last time I went was my first trip almost 2 years ago. They had hot girls then and they had hot girls now. If it didn't cost so much, I'd be here everyday! I decided to pick a girl and try the service. Having low expectations (lots of reports of service being mechanical). I was pleasantly surprised. No rush. No GFE, but I would settle if the girl was extremely hot. Pretty enthusiastic. At the end, she lay next to me and we talked. I got her number but never called her because she sounded really, high maintenance, but since it sounded like service was above average for Loutrons, I might give her a call on my next trip!

lower caste budget male - that's me!! I'm in heaven!!

[quote=chesrep001]lower caste budget male - that's me!! i'm in heaven!![/quote]
enjoy to your heart's content. it's a lucky man who finds a place he likes. gave medellin a fair hearing, and moving on to see and find new places

Maybe that was just some luck of the draw with some of your Mansion girls? I don't think every girl is going to be great no matter the venue but I was lucky on my last trip batting nearly 100% with these chicas for GFE and general satisfaction. But I don't expect every girl to be so good, if 1 or 2 turn out so so its not the end of the world.

I don't like to get much into negotiations generally if not necessary and found that to be the case at MM as the going rate is pretty well established. So, my approach (I was there in August) was if I liked the girl I'd simply pull her and after all was said and done (60 to 90 minute honeymoon) handed her the 150K. This approach worked out very well for me, so I'm a little reluctant to change the formula. Having a sense before agreeing to session for whether a girl actually likes you and not just your money is important but its not foolproof, some of the girls are great actresses.

I am amazed about you and Angie Lorena, she was so distant when I met her myself and we failed to connect at all. I was very surprised at the time as usually the paisas seem to like me and enjoy my company - but maybe she was having a bad personal time or something. Glad you have enjoyed her so much, I still have no interest in her myself, there are too many other treasures awaiting.

[QUOTE=John]Anyways I hope to see some more passionate girls at the Mansion. Previously Mansion girls used to be extremely friendly and were great company but sad to say that Mansion now has some girls who are not as Passionate as to Mansion code. Secondly, previously it was considered a pre-condition for a girl to work at the Mansion that she was to provide BBBJ without even negotiating but now we have to negotiate some services. I hope things will change for the better at the Mansion. For now I have my own rolodex that I can't seem to finish.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver]Angie is one of the most hard core putas in Colombia, never mind just Medellin or Cali.. Why don't you become one of her many Western Union novios? She asked me for a propina because she wants to get a tit job! A few more gringos like you and she'll be well on her way, jajajjaja lol[/QUOTE]

Come on Miami Heat Lover. A hard core puta or whatever you want to call her, she is just not for people like you. Angie Lorena is a girl who knows what she has and knows how to use her looks and also knows how to use her personality. What makes people like you decide what she should get paid. She is a service provider not a fucking Mc Donalds burger which has fixed price for every body.

As per me, God forbid if I ever become that stupid to be a western Union Novio for any chic in the world it would definately be Angie Lorena and don't you worry the day I decide to be her western Union Novio, this board will be last on my consultation list.

For now I am in my senses and I know what I want from a girl. Please let me live the dream that a hot looking girl like Angie is sleeping next to me. I don't care if it is for the money.

Lastly, I would like you to please let me keep focus of the board on my experiences with the girls. Those who are willing and able to pay can read it, enjoy it and have good time.

regards,

John.

The girl is from Las Americas strip club in El Centro. 60k with photos.

Picked her up in Mayorista don't know for sure what area the taxi driver took me, paid her 80k 2 hrs with photos.

Strip club girl 70k with propina and photos.

2 girls 2 nuts,40min 50k special.

Don't waste your time there.

[QUOTE=John]Come on Miami Heat Lover. A hard core puta or whatever you want to call her, she is just not for people like you. [/QUOTE]

Not for people for like me? Who the "F" do you think I am? What do you know? HA HAAAA big LoL, First of all I have been with her one time already and we have also partied in a social environment and could easily call her again at any time and she would gladly come over. In a matter of fact I think I will call her and hook up with her maybe this weekend just for shits and giggles and #2 her picture has been posted here before and she has been used by 100's of men in Medellin and all around Colombia.

What makes you think you are so special, because she told you so? Did she tell you that you are "different", "special", "The one", "would like you to be her novio and she wants to get out of the business?" ja ja ja, thats pretty laughable!

You can and should pay anything these girls ask for. Why not it's your money? You like it and it makes you feel good. If you feel that its a good cathartic practice for yourself keep it up! But better you than me Pato! lol

oh and p.s. I would LOVEEEEE To post a picture of Angie dancing and stripping for me before we get down to business but I KNOW you would be the first one calling, skyping or texting her showing her the picture and telling her "people are posting pictures of you in a forum Angie did you know that? WTF?" under the guise of "I though you wanted something serious with me Angie"

I really find it amusing that some of our fellow mongers think that they can domesticate a puta. I know they are human beings. But the great majority are driven by money. Most gringos are easy preys for these girls. The truth of the matter most of these girls have several westerunion novios. Instead of trying to domesticate a *****, a better option would be to try to hook up with non-pro. Most Colombian women are actually very faitfull and committed to their relatonships.

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver]Not for people for like me? Who the "F" do you think I am? What do you know? HA HAAAA big LoL, First of all I have been with her one time already and we have also partied in a social environment and could easily call her again at any time and she would gladly come over. In a matter of fact I think I will call her and hook up with her maybe this weekend just for shits and giggles and #2 her picture has been posted here before and she has been used by 100's of men in Medellin and all around Colombia.

What makes you think you are so special, because she told you so? Did she tell you that you are "different", "special", "The one", "would like you to be her novio and she wants to get out of the business?" ja ja ja, thats pretty laughable!

You can and should pay anything these girls ask for. Why not it's your money? You like it and it makes you feel good. If you feel that its a good cathartic practice for yourself keep it up! But better you than me Pato! lol

oh and p.s. I would LOVEEEEE To post a picture of Angie dancing and stripping for me before we get down to business but I KNOW you would be the first one calling, skyping or texting her showing her the picture and telling her "people are posting pictures of you in a forum Angie did you know that? WTF?" under the guise of "I though you wanted something serious with me Angie"[/QUOTE]

First off, go ahead call her this weekend you will do me a favor. Second, as I mentioned before pay her what you want to and whatever she agrees. Do not tell me what should I pay her. It is my money not yours. I can pay her $1,000 a night if I wanted to. So it is none of your business what I pay a girl.

May be I am just paying her that money because I wanted to help her get a computer. May be not. It is my money and I decide what to pay a girl.

May be a girl that you are willing to pay 50k pesos ain't worth me paying 5k and vice versa. It is best to keep your opinion to yourself. You don't pay my bills and I am certainly not going to ask what to pay a girl and I will leave it at that.

John.

[QUOTE=John] Do not tell me what should I pay her. It is my money not yours. I can pay her $1,000 a night if I wanted to.

May be I am just paying her that money because I wanted to help her get a computer. May be not. It is my money and I decide what to pay a girl.

[/QUOTE]

Where the F, did I tell you what to pay her? I told you already you should pay her whatever she asks for or whatever you or SHE thinks she's worth.

I'm glad you can pay her $1000 a night, Is that going to make your "nut" any stronger, get you more passion or intense love making as the next guy who doesn't pay her as much? Why don't you make that your common practice? Sounds like a good plan to me.

New Computer? Nice!! Get her a Mac with the built in cam, Im sure she has a NICE collection of computers and gadgets now. She will enjoy it for a while before it gets "stolen". lol

Would you feel better that my Colombian buddy bangs her for free? Now that's the best rate in Colombia in my opinion. je je lol

chesrep001 move over! i want to be a certified member of that club! for an even better lower caste male, go to san salvador, a city of auto repair shops, and great value for the lcbm!

israeliking, i kinda like barcelona..always enjoyed the experience, especially the lousy bed that makes your back break. can't beat the price, always found nice ones there.

[QUOTE=Israeli King]Strip club girl 70k with propina and photos.[/QUOTE]Outstanding ! This is my style of girl. ! Was just in Medellin for Halloween. I found Luna nera club to be fun also . Very well done ! She is my definetion of a colombian body!

I was in their apartment and enjoyed myself in an very special way.

I had taken a viagra 100 mg and had a steel-erection. Thay let me walk around in thier apartment touching them when I wanted and pretended not to notice me. I pressed my cock at Angie Lorenas back when she was chatting on the messenger. I touched her primas brest and pressed my cock to her ass when she was cleaning the apartment. Thay acted like they didn´t care. This went on for an hour or more. Without any demands for money, spent time etc.

The real sex came afterwards and I payed standard 150k to Angie Lorena. She didn´t suck cock, but I penetrated this beauty without condom. What the fuck! She was so lovely.

Viagra makes it easy to hold off the cum impulse. So without coming, I went over to her prima and she suck me off and my cum landed on her legs...

The sex was an ordinary experience.

It became so relaxed being there, no asking for money or time. Touching them when I felt like.

That kind of experience I will try to find again.

I will go to a finca, at Santa fe de Antioquia, with two females. Thay are 33 and 36. In good condition.

I feel I can have a "light version" of that- for a weekend. Kissing them, touching them when I feel like.

This kind of light sex can last for hours and hours. Like tantric sex, a thing that also has to be explored. And the new miracle PT-141.

I have visited several metropol cities in the Latinamerica.

I think Medellin offers culture, climate and people with good manners. The city is also clean.

I compare with Rio, Buenos Aires, Lima, San Jose, Montevideo etc.

Medellin has much to offer and the city (and Colombia) have only enjoyed relative calm for a few years.

Imagine the same progress for the next ten years!

Medellin is not cheap in comparison with other metropoles in Latinamerica hence it is not a paradise for lower cast budget males.

Medellin deserves a visit!




[QUOTE=Golfinho]The Medellin wave has crested and what is left on the beach is an interior, backwater provincial town. A dump actually. If you spend more than a couple days there, you'll know that all too clearly. Unless you're from a nowhere flyover place or a dullard homeland city yourself, in which case you mighn't notice the difference. But, if you like to join a circle jerk discussing 30-year-old mother-of-three hookers, and who had her first back in 2007, then Medellin might be just the place for you. Not knocking it; it is what it is. And, if its for you, enjoy Medellin for all its worth. It's a place where a lower caste/budget male can get himself laid without busting his wallet.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Golfinho]The Medellin wave has crested and what is left on the beach is an interior, backwater provincial town. A dump actually. If you spend more than a couple days there, you'll know that all too clearly. Unless you're from a nowhere flyover place or a dullard homeland city yourself, in which case you mighn't notice the difference. But, if you like to join a circle jerk discussing 30-year-old mother-of-three hookers, and who had her first back in 2007, then Medellin might be just the place for you. Not knocking it; it is what it is. And, if its for you, enjoy Medellin for all its worth. It's a place where a lower caste/budget male can get himself laid without busting his wallet.[/QUOTE]

Yeah! Medellin is spent, done, agotado, kaput, esgotado.

In a few short years a few hundred gringo mongers have totally transformed a city of > 2 million.

Stay away. More for us! :)

I try to recover and find my contacts from my trip.

I have also found 3 new ones during the last 24 hs on Colombiancupid.

I have 15 now, more to come.

PM me if interested.

All girls are (very) attractive.

I feel that I can help both my females friends and my fellow mongers.

I hope to get and recover more contacts.

In Colombia it is easy to find this contacts. This girls are though of good quality and can save time for you.

I am here with a friend of mine. Staying at the San Fernando Plaza. Went to La Strada last night. Lot's of pretty girls. And LOT's of dudes. It was recommended by a friend of a friend that lives here. What was puzzling was how "unfriendly" the girls were. We were, for the most part, hanging at the bar talking. Doing our own thing. We attempted a few times to talk to girls (we were ignored every time) and sent drinks to two different groups of girls (at the recommendation of the waitress. Who was actually the only friendly girl we met all night. She offered to bring two of her friends to meet us tonight. We'll see) and got nowhere (and before you assume. We're decent looking 40 yr old guys that typically have no problem meeting women. Both successful, single and both dating pretty girls. Not being braggard here. Just establishing that were not haggard looking dudes that have trouble meeting pretty women).

We had hit the strip club the night before and didn't stay long. It was packed with guys (at least 10 to 1) and we didn't see that many hot girls (actually a lot of girls that were a little overweight). I think we were at FASE II. So we opted for a Friday night with "non-pro's" to try our luck.

We left La Strada and ventured into Parqu Lleras. Had a couple of drinks at a couple of different bars (Triada, El Rojo and Basilica). It was around 1 AM and we called it a night. The only few girls we ran into were all with large groups of guys (and I realize this is typically the case as single girls don't often venture out as they would rather have guy friends. Or boyfriends. There to pick up the tab). So there wasn't much to keep us interested.

I must say I went home feeling a little disenchanted after hearing how friendly and warm the women were. And let me be clear about expectations. I was not expecting to walk into a regular bar and pick up a girl and take her home. We were simply looking to meet and have fun with some regular girls from Medellin. My friend is from Honduras and speaks fluent spanish. So I thought that would be a plus. Honestly. It felt like trying to meet girls in any other city (granted there were many more beautiful girls that in most cities. I will say that!) and based on everything I had heard about Medellin. I was hoping to find a more warm reception from the women here.

So now that I have "whined" about it all (and if your still reading. Thanks for hanging in there!). This is my question to any of you that care to offer some suggestions.

As you can see from the title of my post. I am feeling my way around. And not having much luck. What I am looking for is a bar or a club where you are likely to find a girl that is a pro. But with the atmosphere that you are picking her up. Not into the "street girl" thing (if I ever tripped up and brought home a tranny. It would haunt me till the end of my days!) and don't prefer the club where you pop into a room for 30. 60 mins (just don't like the "feel"). I realize the "Beetle Bar" of Costa Rican fame doesn't exist here and I am not expecting to find that. But even in Chicago and Atlanta there are bars you can go into that are frequented by pros but also filled with businessmen and everyday people.

Thanks in advance for any tips!

P.S. And I have read the list posted by World Travel 69 and plan to try some of those tonight. If you have a favorite. Or another option. Let me know!

[QUOTE=Schwmmr]Yeah! Medellin is spent, done, agotado, kaput, esgotado.

In a few short years a few hundred gringo mongers have totally transformed a city of > 2 million.

Stay away. More for us! :)[/QUOTE]Have at it. Have had my fill. Good weather, though.

[QUOTE=Colashermosas]I have visited several metropol cities in the Latinamerica.


Medellin ... it is not a paradise for lower cast budget males.

Medellin deserves a visit

Had a nice little spinner (I think tatiana) at mayorista yesterday for $30k cop

Today had anni, cute little thing with, in the words of al pacino in the movie "heat" A GREAT ASS for $30k cop. That's $15 USD!

Now, I consider my self among the plebeians & Medellin is definitely for me.

I didn't think this was available ...

[QUOTE=Colashermosas]I was in their apartment and enjoyed myself in an very special way.

The real sex came afterwards and I payed standard 150k to Angie Lorena. She didn´t suck cock, but I penetrated this beauty without condom. What the fuck! She was so lovely.[/QUOTE]You went bareback with a very known prostitute?

That girl is palid like a ghost since months, if not years. I have always refused to be with her (and her "prima"). Always felt something was and is wrong.

Thanks for reminding me that topic (STDs). You just probably saved my life.

So I was going to spend the weekend with a friend and after reading ISG and your post, I simply asked my date to pass both of us a STD test (available at Prado Center, Poblado, Envigado for as low as 40, 000 pesos; results the same day),

My date refused to pass the test, she said not now.

Once again, thanks.

Saw this book on Amazon: Men's Guide to Colombia.

Any opinions or reviews?

Hey guys, (don't try this at home, leave it to the experts, ha, ha)

The trick to going bare back is simple. If you ask and they say yes right away, then it's a no, no. If they say a re-soundly NO, then the chances are she says no to everybody and it takes an expert like me, ha, ha, to convince her to go bareback. I'll keep that part to myself. But I will share on how to get her to do a BBBJ. Just tell her that you can't catch AIDS doing oral sex, or is next to impossible. And ask if she has ever seen a sex video where someone is doing a blow job with a condom? Also, that you are a very clean person. Then go ahead and offer her a 10kcop tip.

Frank Casio!

[QUOTE=Member #2492]You went bareback with a very known prostitute?

That girl is palid like a ghost since months, if not years. I have always refused to be with her (and her "prima"). Always felt something was and is wrong.

Thanks for reminding me that topic (STDs). You just probably saved my life.

So I was going to spend the weekend with a friend and after reading ISG and your post, I simply asked my date to pass both of us a STD test (available at Prado Center, Poblado, Envigado for as low as 40, 000 pesos; results the same day),

My date refused to pass the test, she said not now.

Once again, thanks.[/QUOTE]

Hi Midwest,

Lucky you, Annie is a cutie, beautiful ass and those hot mini-skirts she wears, revealing those voloptuous legs. I wanted her so bad, but it never happenned. She always hung around my friend's restaurant, the one with the metal chairs, pastries and roast chicken. Since I know him and his family I was embarrassed to try anything, and I even thought she was family because she was always talking to my friends wife. In addition I never got any feed back from her, she never returned my stares. I think she thought I was a hard-ass or stuck-up as some girls do.

She was one of VicsPics favorites. I fianally just gave up, but I envy you. She looked young, and since she hung around my friend's restaurant, at first I didn't even think she was a working girl. She dresses really nice and looks really clean, but what an ass.! Tatiana is no push-back either, a hot little spinner. There are more than a few Tatiana's in La Mayorista, but they're all hot little spinners, at least the once I know, 3 at least. Also, I'm just throwing this in, the chairs and tables have been back on the sidewalk in La Mayorista for almost a year now.

Frank Casio!

[QUOTE=Midwest](there's that phrase again)

Had a nice little spinner (I think tatiana) at mayorista yesterday for $30k cop

Today had anni, cute little thing with, in the words of al pacino in the movie "heat" A GREAT ASS for $30k cop. That's $15 USD!

Now, I consider my self among the plebeians & Medellin is definitely for me.[/QUOTE]

She is so fucking teenager-stupid and that turned me on.

Afterwards I tested negative. On a test incluing every STD known to man.

On occasions Mr Big has such as influences over my mind that I loose all my rationality.

Colombia is a special paradise since females come to you, even if you are an modest middle-man.

I will go on with bareback fucking, make porn and sell it in the US under the title POCAHONTAS, since the mayority of the goodlooking hookers is half indians with long straight hair, dark eyes.

Medellin offers 1st class culture of varios types.

Medellin on the other hand also offers horney females, that themselves take the initiative in contacting Anglosaxons.

That city is paradise for Anglosaxons.

No place on earth has so many females that have silicon lips, boobs and ass. And want you attention!

I love that! You have so many females walking around exposing their beauty that you are practically horney 24/7!

Culture, sports, restaurants, nature.

When Frank says Medellin Paradise I agree 100%

[QUOTE=Member #2492]You went bareback with a very known prostitute?

That girl is palid like a ghost since months, if not years. I have always refused to be with her (and her "prima"). Always felt something was and is wrong.

Thanks for reminding me that topic (STDs). You just probably saved my life.

So I was going to spend the weekend with a friend and after reading ISG and your post, I simply asked my date to pass both of us a STD test (available at Prado Center, Poblado, Envigado for as low as 40, 000 pesos; results the same day),

My date refused to pass the test, she said not now.

Once again, thanks.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sailinaway]I am here with a friend of mine. Staying at the San Fernando Plaza. Went to La Strada last night. Lot's of pretty girls. And LOT's of dudes. It was recommended by a friend of a friend that lives here. What was puzzling was how "unfriendly" the girls were. We were, for the most part, hanging at the bar talking. Doing our own thing. We attempted a few times to talk to girls (we were ignored every time) and sent drinks to two different groups of girls (at the recommendation of the waitress.[/QUOTE]

Have you tried the dating websites? Its a good way to "penetrate" a girls circle of friends once you make contact with at least one of them.

The gringo "novelty" is long gone thats if there ever even was one. Gringos are not getting the best reputation in Medellin and I would even go as far as saying "starting to be frowned upon" and as the Kangaroo Man says "Any girl seen with a gringo might be perceived as a prepago" Sad but getting true!

[QUOTE=Member #2492]You went bareback with a very known prostitute?

That girl is palid like a ghost since months, if not years. I have always refused to be with her (and her "prima"). Always felt something was and is wrong.

Thanks for reminding me that topic (STDs). You just probably saved my life.

So I was going to spend the weekend with a friend and after reading ISG and your post, I simply asked my date to pass both of us a STD test (available at Prado Center, Poblado, Envigado for as low as 40, 000 pesos; results the same day),

My date refused to pass the test, she said not now.

Once again, thanks.[/QUOTE]If your protecting yourself do you still need a test?

[QUOTE=Sailinaway]I am here with a friend of mine. Staying at the San Fernando Plaza. Went to La Strada last night. Lot's of pretty girls. And LOT's of dudes. It was recommended by a friend of a friend that lives here. What was puzzling was how "unfriendly" the girls were. We were, for the most part, hanging at the bar talking. Doing our own thing. We attempted a few times to talk to girls (we were ignored every time) and sent drinks to two different groups of girls (at the recommendation of the waitress. Who was actually the only friendly girl we met all night. She offered to bring two of her friends to meet us tonight. We'll see) and got nowhere (and before you assume. We're decent looking 40 yr old guys that typically have no problem meeting women. Both successful, single and both dating pretty girls. Not being braggard here. Just establishing that were not haggard looking dudes that have trouble meeting pretty women).

We had hit the strip club the night before and didn't stay long. It was packed with guys (at least 10 to 1) and we didn't see that many hot girls (actually a lot of girls that were a little overweight). I think we were at FASE II. So we opted for a Friday night with "non-pro's" to try our luck.

We left La Strada and ventured into Parqu Lleras. Had a couple of drinks at a couple of different bars (Triada, El Rojo and Basilica). It was around 1 AM and we called it a night. The only few girls we ran into were all with large groups of guys (and I realize this is typically the case as single girls don't often venture out as they would rather have guy friends. Or boyfriends. There to pick up the tab). So there wasn't much to keep us interested.

I must say I went home feeling a little disenchanted after hearing how friendly and warm the women were. And let me be clear about expectations. I was not expecting to walk into a regular bar and pick up a girl and take her home. We were simply looking to meet and have fun with some regular girls from Medellin. My friend is from Honduras and speaks fluent spanish. So I thought that would be a plus. Honestly. It felt like trying to meet girls in any other city (granted there were many more beautiful girls that in most cities. I will say that!) and based on everything I had heard about Medellin. I was hoping to find a more warm reception from the women here.

So now that I have "whined" about it all (and if your still reading. Thanks for hanging in there!). This is my question to any of you that care to offer some suggestions.

As you can see from the title of my post. I am feeling my way around. And not having much luck. What I am looking for is a bar or a club where you are likely to find a girl that is a pro. But with the atmosphere that you are picking her up. Not into the "street girl" thing (if I ever tripped up and brought home a tranny. It would haunt me till the end of my days!) and don't prefer the club where you pop into a room for 30. 60 mins (just don't like the "feel"). I realize the "Beetle Bar" of Costa Rican fame doesn't exist here and I am not expecting to find that. But even in Chicago and Atlanta there are bars you can go into that are frequented by pros but also filled with businessmen and everyday people.

Thanks in advance for any tips!

P.S. And I have read the list posted by World Travel 69 and plan to try some of those tonight. If you have a favorite. Or another option. Let me know![/QUOTE]Where to start. All just friendly advice. Thinking critically not being critical. We're all in this together so I'm just trying to help.

1) I noticed is that you said you went home around 1am, with the time line you wrote it sound like you were at the club around 10ish 11ish; is this correct? If it is I'd say you hit the club too early and you should of went to Parque Lleres first. Walked around a bit, tried to find some girls to take to the club, you know some apps and drinks then hop in a cab to the club.

2) Bro come on! Sending a round of drinks to some random group of girls? We're not in 1985 any more. It is actually kind of "creepy" to send over a round to a total group of strange chicks with out having some sort of connection. Chicks respect confidence, correction EVERYBODY respects confidence.

3) You are not going to meet any normal Chicks at Fase 2

4)Your buddy's language skills should be an advantage. Unless you're friend is not funny or charming.

5) If you and your buddy are in your 40's do you look like you're in your 40's?

How do you guys dress? Balding/Grey Hair? Old guy Glasses? Fat/Guts? I know that most of the members will give me hell for this but most "normal" girls in their late teens and early 20's do not want to date their dad; even in South America. It's the truth

MY CLUB ADVICE:

Try to bring girls to the Club with you, If you can't find any get a table and a bottle, Play the roll of "Ballers", invite random girls to the table ect, ANY GIRLS and EVERY GIRLS; it is a numbers game. Be cool, be funny, smile and this is the most important thing DANCE! Get out there and dance, it's is SO IMPORTANT THAT YOU DANCE! If you're not "Handsome" dancing well and being confident will help off set the lack of "Handsome". Speaking of which

If you want to just hang with "normal chicks" it is 100% the same as meeting girls in ANY COUNTRY! Having some loot helps but being cool, fun, confident, and positive is the best advice you're going to get.

Hey guys,

I'm flying into Medellin for Christmas and New Years. Up to 2 weeks is what I am estimating right now. I was thinking of booking a hotel for the first 3 days and looking for the apartment once I get there, around December 27th so that I can see it in person before sending the money. Is it relatively easy to find a decent apartment last minute (for 2 people) given that the new years will be approaching? I was thinking El Poblado, since that sounds like the happening place.

Any recommendations on an apartment?

How much do you expect an apartment to run for 2 people? I don't need anything extravagant, safety and location are my top priority.

Thanks

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver]The gringo "novelty" is long gone thats if there ever even was one. Gringos are not getting the best reputation in Medellin and I would even go as far as saying "starting to be frowned upon" and as the Kangaroo Man says "Any girl seen with a gringo might be perceived as a prepago" Sad but getting true![/QUOTE]I would to offer one small edit

"Any girl seen with a gringo 20+ years older than her with no logical reason for being with this chump gringo might be perceived as a prepago"

Truth Hurts.

Gringos/extranjeros have very good reputation in Medellin and girls seen with them are not at all seen automatically as " prepagos".

We ourselves that draw the obvious conslusion since often are among girls who are, to some extent, "prepagos".

I have visited respectful institutions with intelligent girls.

I have had female friends of different kinds and if it is one thing girls are sensitive about - it´s what other people think, hence few of them would go out with us if this automatically inclined that they were prostitutes.

Stupid prepagos are often young girls who never have had an income and thinks it is cool to make money without working.

The majority of the females, who you really want to spent time with, are harder to get in bed, but on the other hand you don´t have to feel like a weekend babysitter.

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver]Have you tried the dating websites? Its a good way to "penetrate" a girls circle of friends once you make contact with at least one of them.

The gringo "novelty" is long gone thats if there ever even was one. Gringos are not getting the best reputation in Medellin and I would even go as far as saying "starting to be frowned upon" and as the Kangaroo Man says "Any girl seen with a gringo might be perceived as a prepago" Sad but getting true![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MS Clive]Saw this book on Amazon: Men's Guide to Colombia.

Any opinions or reviews?[/QUOTE]Not having read the book, I'm thinking this website renders this or any book mostly obsolete before it even prints.

If you buy it, check for accuracy here first.

Better yet, save your money & spend it on a cutie when you get here.

I'm willing to bet anything in that book can be found here.

If not, tons of mongers willing to help.

Just a general observation.

Just imagine Chinese guys in 40s came to a bar in your town. Will the girls in the bar be very friendly to them? [QUOTE=Sailinaway]I am here with a friend of mine. Staying at the San Fernando Plaza. Went to La Strada last night. Lot's of pretty girls. And LOT's of dudes. It was recommended by a friend of a friend that lives here. What was puzzling was how "unfriendly" the girls were. We were, for the most part, hanging at the bar talking. Doing our own thing. We attempted a few times to talk to girls (we were ignored every time) and sent drinks to two different groups of girls (at the recommendation of the waitress.

[QUOTE=Matt Psyche]Just imagine Chinese guys in 40s came to a bar in your town. Will the girls in the bar be very friendly to them? [QUOTE=Sailinaway]I am here with a friend of mine. Staying at the San Fernando Plaza. Went to La Strada last night. Lot's of pretty girls. And LOT's of dudes. It was recommended by a friend of a friend that lives here. What was puzzling was how "unfriendly" the girls were. We were, for the most part, hanging at the bar talking. Doing our own thing. We attempted a few times to talk to girls (we were ignored every time) and sent drinks to two different groups of girls (at the recommendation of the waitress.[/QUOTE]

hahahaha lol, This might be the analogy of the year! I don't know whether to call you a racist bastard or say, "I can kind of see your point" Well if this was in Flushing NY and "guys in 40's came in, well then I would say yes! The girls would be very friendly to them!

[QUOTE=Aybolit]Hey guys,

I'm flying into Medellin for Christmas and New Years. Up to 2 weeks is what I am estimating right now. I was thinking of booking a hotel for the first 3 days and looking for the apartment once I get there, around December 27th so that I can see it in person before sending the money. Is it relatively easy to find a decent apartment last minute (for 2 people) given that the new years will be approaching? I was thinking El Poblado, since that sounds like the happening place.

Any recommendations on an apartment?

How much do you expect an apartment to run for 2 people? I don't need anything extravagant, safety and location are my top priority.

Thanks[/QUOTE] I strongly recommend [url]http://www.theapartmentmedellin.com[/url]. Andrew is a good man and he has some nice panty dropping cribs. I'll be staying in one of them again on the 27th. He has studios to 3 bedrooms that range from $75 US to $150 US a night. They're all in Poblado which is safe and close to the best bars and restaurants. You also won't have any problems bringing chicas to the crib because it's like your own home. Up front you pay a reservation deposit of 20% of the total cost of the stay and a $300 US security deposit via Paypal which is returned a couple of days after you check out as long as none of your crazy chicas don't damage anything. It's a good deal and Andrew is trustworthy. Feel free to PM me for more information.

[QUOTE=Sailinaway]We were simply looking to meet and have fun with some regular girls from Medellin. My friend is from Honduras and speaks fluent spanish. So I thought that would be a plus. Honestly. It felt like trying to meet girls in any other city (granted there were many more beautiful girls that in most cities. I will say that!) and based on everything I had heard about Medellin. I was hoping to find a more warm reception from the women here.[/QUOTE]As someone was saying try the dating sites to meet non-pros. Otherwise, if you are trying to cold meet Colombianas then you pretty much have to do it in the day time when you see them working or running errands in public. As you have seen they do not go to nightclubs/discos alone or with just females. There are always males in the group and you can't tell if the males are boyfriends or just friends because they take turns dancing with each other, sitting next to each other, etc. In my observation and experience Colombians (male or female) do not go out in order to meet new people as say we do here in the USA. Their idea of going out is to socialize amongst their pre-existing group of friends. It might be a little work, but once you do get a couple of them into your hip pocket you will not be disappointed.

I do not mean to be argumentative, but ethnocentralistic attitude often clouds people's understanding of the situation what is going on. If you are in foreign country, you look very different and your oral and body languages maybe sending unintended signals. Also, your behavior may not be fully in accordance with etiquette in that country. Your situation is not different from Chinese (or whatever) in your country. Some nationalities may be more ethnocentralistic than others, and believe that their values and mode of behavior should be relevant, or even prevalent, in foreign countries. This may cause many things- trade deficit, unpopular gringos who claim to be good looking, and others.

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver][QUOTE=Matt Psyche]Just imagine Chinese guys in 40s came to a bar in your town. Will the girls in the bar be very friendly to them?

hahahaha lol, This might be the analogy of the year! I don't know whether to call you a racist bastard or say, "I can kind of see your point" Well if this was in Flushing NY and "guys in 40's came in, well then I would say yes! The girls would be very friendly to them![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Member #2492]I simply asked my date to pass both of us a STD test (available at Prado Center, Poblado, Envigado for as low as 40, 000 pesos; results the same day),
[/QUOTE]

I'm interested in getting such a test. Can you or somebody else out there give me an addres?

Mr. Enternational's answer has been the most helpful response to your report so far and I have to reiterate what he said.

It's been said on this forum time and time again so it's not like you have an excuse that you didn't know unless you didn't bother to read the reports (including mine in the past):

This is NOT a country conducive to cold approaches in the evening in bar/club settings. People here go out in mixed groups. Your friend from Honduras is not going to be of much help. You need local male friends. I have several so I hang out with them and it's just a natural process to meet their circle of female friends and so on. Since I'm "vouched for" by a local male, I can bring out my camera and it's almost like they start dancing and smiling just for me. :)

So it can be done, but without the local connection it's an uphill battle with the non-pros. Try the dating sites.

This idea of meeting girls in clubs and bars is something we bring over from the states but this ain't Kansas. Even if you have money and game, it's not going to be easy. Maybe in Bogota, where the women are used to meeting more gringos and foreigners on business or visiting, you might be lucky.

The cold approach actually works better for Americans in some European and Scandinavian countries assuming the age difference is not too much. South America, not so much.

[QUOTE=Menteng]I'm interested in getting such a test. Can you or somebody else out there give me an addres?[/QUOTE]Any clinica will offer these tests.

Clinica Las Vegas on Ave. Las Vegas across from EAFIT. 2nd floor up the stairs behind the elevators. and;

Clinica Medellin on Av. Poblado next to the Dan Carlton hotel

They are probably the two closest to Poblado

[QUOTE=Slamcity7777]I would to offer one small edit

"Any girl seen with a gringo 20+ years older than her with no logical reason for being with this chump gringo might be perceived as a prepago"

Truth Hurts.[/QUOTE]

Now that's genius.

BTW, what are the logical reasons why this girl would be this older "chump gringo"?? ... because there's absolutely no way she actually digs him, right?

I date girls in both Colombia and Brazil, 20 years younger, and get along fantastic with them.
I just couldn't imagine going back to dating like age girls, foreign or domestic.

Life gets a lot easier when ya stop giving a hoot what anyone 'perceives'.
That's my truth.

[QUOTE=Ricker].....Life gets a lot easier when ya stop giving a hoot what anyone 'perceives'.

That's my truth.[/QUOTE]

Well said!

[QUOTE=Hilltopper]Well said![/QUOTE]

Yes I agree with Hilltopper. I've not been to Medellin in 25 years. Plan on going back next year. I do know Robert from the Mansion from back come in the USA. Hope to see him there.

I could care less what anyone thinks when I'm with a chica. I date women 40 years younger than me in Santo Domingo. I have something they want( money ) they have something I want plus I'm fluent in Spanish and dance Latin music very well.

I usually post on the DR board.

[QUOTE=Ricker]Now that's genius.

BTW, what are the logical reasons why this girl would be this older "chump gringo"?? ... because there's absolutely no way she actually digs him, right?

I date girls in both Colombia and Brazil, 20 years younger, and get along fantastic with them.
I just couldn't imagine going back to dating like age girls, foreign or domestic.

Life gets a lot easier when ya stop giving a hoot what anyone 'perceives'.
That's my truth.[/QUOTE]I have to agree with you Ricker. I'm 41 and my novia is 21. I guess this means she only wants money, gifts and a green card. I guess I'm only looking for sex from a hot, young Paisa and I want to control a young girl. It's amazing how people that have never met you or your novia will automatically pass judgement on your relationship. Me and my novia don't discuss our age difference and we have a good laugh at the stupid things people say about us. We get along great and we have a lot in common (same favorite color, food, both left handed, etc.). My advice is to follow your heart and do what pleases you. Regardless of whether your relationship is considered conventional or unconventional there will always be people out there that will talk shit about you.

[QUOTE=Ricker]Now that's genius.

BTW, what are the logical reasons why this girl would be this older "chump gringo"?? ... because there's absolutely no way she actually digs him, right?

I date girls in both Colombia and Brazil, 20 years younger, and get along fantastic with them.
I just couldn't imagine going back to dating like age girls, foreign or domestic.

Life gets a lot easier when ya stop giving a hoot what anyone 'perceives'.
That's my truth.[/QUOTE]Yep I expected this sort of reaction.

If my post offended or hit a bit close to home for anyone that was not my intent.

There are exceptions to the rule. Maybe some of you are among the lucky few who have "it" with the ladies and are able to pull amazingly beautiful women because of who you are, what you look like, and how you treat them. The majority of men do not have "it" and when you see of a 20something beautiful girl with a 45-65 year old guy there is a CHANCE that she's in it for the "right" reasons. Not likely but there is that chance.

I agree that "life gets easier when ya stop giving a hoot what anyone 'perceives'. "

Enjoy you truth in what ever form you want to 'perceive' it fellas.

[QUOTE=Ricker]Now that's genius.

BTW, what are the logical reasons why this girl would be this older "chump gringo"?? ... because there's absolutely no way she actually digs him, right?

I date girls in both Colombia and Brazil, 20 years younger, and get along fantastic with them.
I just couldn't imagine going back to dating like age girls, foreign or domestic.

Life gets a lot easier when ya stop giving a hoot what anyone 'perceives'.
That's my truth.[/QUOTE]You said it perfectly. Too many people with too many opinions. I like younger women and even before I came to Colombia I dated younger women in the states and I don't care what the others had to say. I think some of the people are just jealous. Enjoy it while you can.