Madagascar

[QUOTE=SGK45;2766376]Guys,

You can be rich folks but never offer more money. It's 50-60 LT. ST is 30-40 k ariary. Even on social media and dating apps. Keep them prices tight.
[/QUOTE]Thank you. Will apply, I see no point in overpaying for anything I buy in a secondhand car lot or for a well-used harlot.

Yes offering the price first is a good idea. I have been asked 250.000 AR for ST. Haha.

[QUOTE=SGK45;2766376]Guys,

You can be rich folks but never offer more money. It's 50-60 LT. ST is 30-40 k ariary. Even on social media and dating apps. Keep them prices tight.

Inform other mongers who are not on ISG. You are ruining the place for everyone. If someone offer you prices as high as 150 k. It's a no go and you can always find it cheap and better girls to shag. Also you can offer the price first.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kako123;2766902]Yes offering the price first is a good idea. I have been asked 250.000 AR for ST. Haha.[/QUOTE]This perspective is fascinating to me. With girls in many countries I have always done the opposite: I ask their price first, and I do not negotiate. Instead, if I don't like their price, I walk away, right away, and do not let them rope me back in.

Why? Because any girl that asks a high price, is someone who thinks highly of themselves and their own market value; and so very likely is someone who thinks they are "above" the sort of wild kinky things I enjoy, either refusing it outright or massively upcharging for it. (Even after saying they'll do it! Especially after saying they'll do it!

Whereas a girl that asks the going rate, or even lower, is a girl who (at least in that moment) sees her body as a commodity, to be sold for a commodity price. And so is a girl who will likely not think of herself highly, and will be open to doing all sorts of additional things with no upcharge.

Do Malagasy women break this logic? If so, they'd be the first ones I've ever seen to do so.

[QUOTE=ZachHammond;2766922]This perspective is fascinating to me. With girls in many countries I have always done the opposite: I ask their price first, and I do not negotiate. Instead, if I don't like their price, I walk away, right away, and do not let them rope me back in.

Why? Because any girl that asks a high price, is someone who thinks highly of themselves and their own market value; and so very likely is someone who thinks they are "above" the sort of wild kinky things I enjoy, either refusing it outright or massively upcharging for it. (Even after saying they'll do it! Especially after saying they'll do it!

Whereas a girl that asks the going rate, or even lower, is a girl who (at least in that moment) sees her body as a commodity, to be sold for a commodity price. And so is a girl who will likely not think of herself highly, and will be open to doing all sorts of additional things with no upcharge.

Do Malagasy women break this logic? If so, they'd be the first ones I've ever seen to do so.[/QUOTE]The people in this country are dirt poor. They have to do whatever they can do to survive. Fascinating logic, huhn?

[QUOTE=Kako123;2766902]Yes offering the price first is a good idea. I have been asked 250.000 AR for ST. Haha.[/QUOTE]Maybe you misunderstood. Ask if she meant FMG. Franc Malagasy. Ariary divided by 5 equals 50.000. LOL. Having said that. A friend of mine was quoted 500 USD on Tinder.

Greetings, All things considered I have had a very good trip so far, traveling to a couple of places, Sambava and Tolear, among others. By plane, I should add. It sure beats private taxi. To say nothing of the taxi brousse.

Tana is interesting too. I had never really explored the city before and there is much to see. I took several walking through the Office du Tourisme situated at the top of the hill in a wonderful small park adjacent to the Hotel du Louvre. Also, I squeezed in the Parc des Lemurs and the Royal Palace. Negotiate a good price. It is worth it. Always negotiate.

I stayed in a number of hotels in Tana, including the Glacier, which is not bad by local standards. They even have a fridge in the room. And the staff is extremely friendly. I always bought them the drinks and sandwiches and they helped me a lot by keeping an eye out for me and offering me extra good service.

I also stayed at the Shangai Hotel, which is a more family oriented but situate on the hill overlooking the Avenue de l'Independance. The staff is very friendly and the food good.

I checked out Sole Hotel but it is a bit far removed from the Avenue de L'Independance and I would not walk around there at night. Several FLs on the street opposite the hotel in the afternoon. They typically asked 30-40,000. There are other hotels on the avenue de l'Independance as well and they look OK.

I felt perfectly safe in the Glacier hotel. Outside is another story after 7 PM. This guy jumped me early one night in the street outside the hotel but I was carrying nothing of value. I easily pushed him away with my arm and leg sending him sprawling. I am surprised that he approached me because I am not exactly a small guy. Quite the opposite. I stand two meters tall and weigh 110 kilos. Despite my age –mid-seventies--I am in the shape of my life. His sidekick quickly backed away when his partner in crime went down. But I learned my lesson and avoided the arcades on either side of the Avenue de l'independence after dark. Better to walk in the inner lane reserved for parking.

I had a bad case of diarrhea, maybe from omelettes. To be avoided, they say, since eggs are never refrigerated even in the stores. I would also avoid the mayonnaise. But the hotel staff at the Glacier helped me find a good doctor and even escorted me there. Total cost 30,000 ariar with meds. That would have cost a lot more in the States.

The Glacier club across the street has a number of gems actually. You just have to look. Treat them well and they will reciprocate in kind. I typically would invite my lady of choice upstairs for a light snack and drinks and talk. They want at least 40,000 but since I treated them to dinner they seldom charged anything at all and gave fantastic service. They all spoke decent French by the way.

The music at the Glacier ain't bad and I sometimes I would just chill in the bar with a beer and listen to the band.

Keep well and enjoy. But take care. This is not Disneyland. Never carry anything of value with you beyond whatever cash you plan to spend.

[QUOTE=ZachHammond;2766922]This perspective is fascinating to me. With girls in many countries I have always done the opposite: I ask their price first, and I do not negotiate. Instead, if I don't like their price, I walk away, right away, and do not let them rope me back in.

Why? Because any girl that asks a high price, is someone who thinks highly of themselves and their own market value; and so very likely is someone who thinks they are "above" the sort of wild kinky things I enjoy, either refusing it outright or massively upcharging for it. (Even after saying they'll do it! Especially after saying they'll do it!

Whereas a girl that asks the going rate, or even lower, is a girl who (at least in that moment) sees her body as a commodity, to be sold for a commodity price. And so is a girl who will likely not think of herself highly, and will be open to doing all sorts of additional things with no upcharge.

Do Malagasy women break this logic? If so, they'd be the first ones I've ever seen to do so.[/QUOTE]Mate. There is no and there's never been a "logic" in pricing in subsaharan Africa. Read my countless posts to that subject. Use the search function. A good rule of thumb is a white man pays roughly double to one and a half the price a local pays. For example in Tana a local pays 20.000 MGA for a shag. I mongered in ten subsaharan countries now. And it's everywhere the same. 10 USD. Except. Tourist areas or rich expat or rich local venues like 5* Hotels or upmarket Discotheques in the most expensive neighbourhoods. There the price quoted can easily be 10 Times as much I. E. 100 USD. Another factor is language. If the girl speaks English in non English speaking colonies a skill set expect the base price of 10 $ to multiply by 5 to 10.

The other factor is time. Time in subsaharan Africa is irrelevant.

ST can be one shag or two shags. 30 minutes or 2 hours. Get used to it. In some markets the difference between overnight called fortwith LT is relatively benign. After a certain hour public transport might not be available or it might be outright dangerous to move so girls prefer to look for a bed to sleep. How often you shag. It depends. Usually 2 to 3 times. There's the age old problem of girls you agreed to for "LT" and she tries to take off after one shag and still collect a higher rate. Always negotiate a "shag" and see how the vibez are. There's. A zillion factors.

Bienvenue a Afrique Noir.

La Buse.

[QUOTE=ZachHammond;2766922]This perspective is fascinating to me. With girls in many countries I have always done the opposite: I ask their price first, and I do not negotiate. Instead, if I don't like their price, I walk away, right away, and do not let them rope me back in.

Why? Because any girl that asks a high price, is someone who thinks highly of themselves and their own market value; and so very likely is someone who thinks they are "above" the sort of wild kinky things I enjoy, either refusing it outright or massively upcharging for it. (Even after saying they'll do it! Especially after saying they'll do it!

Whereas a girl that asks the going rate, or even lower, is a girl who (at least in that moment) sees her body as a commodity, to be sold for a commodity price. And so is a girl who will likely not think of herself highly, and will be open to doing all sorts of additional things with no upcharge.

Do Malagasy women break this logic? If so, they'd be the first ones I've ever seen to do so.[/QUOTE]Hi Mate.

Lesson no 1: Never influence middle men.

Since I have travelled quite a bit. I know that certain places are operated through SPAs and Brothels. SPAs and Brothels are a mafia. Perfect example is girlie bars in Thailand and South East Asia. Countries like Australia is very oppressive to mongers because of oppressive regulations. When you enter into a legal brothel in Queensland, the sex worker comes to you wearing glouse to check your dick. It's oppressive to the level that you get a limp dick when they do that. Australia has been a famous place for street walkers where you can walk up to them and negotiate prices. But legal brothel system and online escort site that offer Asian hookers for high prices has runined the mongering scene. In countries mongering is not an industry. Girls get the full benefit of it. Whatever amount you pay them goes to them and their families. Even though you tip them as they please you it directly benifits them. There are two important facts you need to realise in mongering.

1. WGs don't do it for fun. They do it to survive.

2. It's a service and middle men ruined the service (Example: South East Asia).

Lazy mongers prefer Spas and Bars because they are too lazy, shy and insecure to talk to women. As clever mongers we should not influence middle men. We should never buy girls from girlie bars and pubs. We should always influence freelancers. We should tip them based on their service. We should do everything in our control to protect the freelance sex scene in countries. Because sex is a fundamental requirement. All these nonsense of women empowerment and bullshit make it oppressive to alpha males who are sexually active. If you meet women who are in need of money. Get their consent and offer a price in exchange of sex. Doesn't matter which country you reside. Then you can offer her to some of your friends and get her a customer line. We have to cut the middle men. We have to influence sex work in a way that directly benifits sex workers and mongers. That way, we as mongers can control the market. If we don't run by this code we may have to fuck shitty drunk tattooed hookers in bars for rediculous prices similar to some beer drinking loosers do in Thailand. It's funny they think WGs are their girlfriends.

Lesson no 2: Value preposition.

Value for sex workers in the market is an arbitrary value, hence always devalue sex workers and inform other mongers to pitch the same price. Always negotiate prices on websites when you call them or meet them. I have probably screwed more than 1000 sex workers (humbly) in Sri Lanka. Including actresses, models, showgirls, spa girls and what not. Lotta mongers pay rediculous amount of money to them. Especially foreign mongers. Maximum I ever paid is 50 USD. I always do ST as little as 25-30 USD. Anything more than that I offer my price, if they are firm I walk away and I inform others not to buy. Because it is not worth it. Russian and Thai sex workers residing or touring in Sri Lanka or India propose high value due to rarity factor. I always avoid Thai and Russian hookers in such countries and go for the local. It's always cheap to fly and screw a Russians or Thais if you so badly want to screw them. Make them feel like they lose a faithful customer. This is specially true when it comes to middle men (Spa / bar owners). You don't have to fuck by anyone's rules. You can make the rules.

[QUOTE=ZachHammond;2766922]This perspective is fascinating to me. With girls in many countries I have always done the opposite: I ask their price first, and I do not negotiate. Instead, if I don't like their price, I walk away, right away, and do not let them rope me back in.

Why? Because any girl that asks a high price, is someone who thinks highly of themselves and their own market value; and so very likely is someone who thinks they are "above" the sort of wild kinky things I enjoy, either refusing it outright or massively upcharging for it. (Even after saying they'll do it! Especially after saying they'll do it!

Whereas a girl that asks the going rate, or even lower, is a girl who (at least in that moment) sees her body as a commodity, to be sold for a commodity price. And so is a girl who will likely not think of herself highly, and will be open to doing all sorts of additional things with no upcharge.

Do Malagasy women break this logic? If so, they'd be the first ones I've ever seen to do so.[/QUOTE]Hi Mate.

Lesson no 1: Never influence middle men.

Since I have travelled quite a bit. I know that certain places are operated through SPAs and Brothels. SPAs and Brothels are a mafia. Perfect example is girlie bars in Thailand and South East Asia. Countries like Australia is very oppressive to mongers because of oppressive regulations. When you enter into a legal brothel in Queensland, the sex worker comes to you wearing glouse to check your dick. It's oppressive to the level that you get a limp dick when they do that. Australia has been a famous place for street walkers where you can walk up to them and negotiate prices. But legal brothel system and online escort site that offer Asian hookers for high prices has runined the mongering scene. In countries mongering is not an industry. Girls get the full benefit of it. Whatever amount you pay them goes to them and their families. Even though you tip them as they please you it directly benifits them. There are two important facts you need to realise in mongering.

1. WGs don't do it for fun. They do it to survive.

2. It's a service and middle men ruined the service (Example: South East Asia).

Lazy mongers prefer Spas and Bars because they are too lazy, shy and insecure to talk to women. As clever mongers we should not influence middle men. We should never buy girls from girlie bars and pubs. We should always influence freelancers. We should tip them based on their service. We should do everything in our control to protect the freelance sex scene in countries. Because sex is a fundamental requirement. All these nonsense of women empowerment and bullshit make it oppressive to alpha males who are sexually active. If you meet women who are in need of money. Get their consent and offer a price in exchange of sex. Doesn't matter which country you reside. Then you can offer her to some of your friends and get her a customer line. We have to cut the middle men. We have to influence sex work in a way that directly benifits sex workers and mongers. That way, we as mongers can control the market. If we don't run by this code we may have to fuck shitty drunk tattooed hookers in bars for rediculous prices similar to some beer drinking loosers do in Thailand. It's funny they think WGs are their girlfriends.

Lesson no 2: Value preposition.

Value for sex workers in the market is an arbitrary value, hence always devalue sex workers and inform other mongers to pitch the same price. Always negotiate prices on websites when you call them or meet them. I have probably screwed more than 1000 sex workers (humbly) in Sri Lanka. Including actresses, models, showgirls, spa girls and what not. Lotta mongers pay rediculous amount of money to them. Especially foreign mongers. Maximum I ever paid is 50 USD. I always do ST as little as 25-30 USD. Anything more than that I offer my price, if they are firm I walk away and I inform others not to buy. Because it is not worth it. Russian and Thai sex workers residing or touring in Sri Lanka or India propose high value due to rarity factor. I always avoid Thai and Russian hookers in such countries and go for the local. It's always cheap to fly and screw a Russians or Thais if you so badly want to screw them. Make them feel like they lose a faithful customer. This is specially true when it comes to middle men (Spa / bar owners) You don't have to fuck by anyone' rules. You can make the rules.

[QUOTE=RoamingViking;2766997]
I stayed in a number of hotels in Tana, including the Glacier, which is not bad by local standards. They even have a fridge in the room. And the staff is extremely friendly. I always bought them the drinks and sandwiches and they helped me a lot by keeping an eye out for me and offering me extra good service.

I also stayed at the Shangai Hotel, which is a more family oriented but situate on the hill overlooking the Avenue de l'Independance. The staff is very friendly and the food good.

I checked out Sole Hotel but it is a bit far removed from the Avenue de L'Independance and I would not walk around there at night. Several FLs on the street opposite the hotel in the afternoon. They typically asked 30-40,000. There are other hotels on the avenue de l'Independance as well and they look OK.

I felt perfectly safe in the Glacier hotel. Outside is another story after 7 PM. This guy jumped me early one night in the street outside the hotel but I was carrying nothing of value. I easily pushed him away with my arm and leg sending him sprawling. I am surprised that he approached me because I am not exactly a small guy. Quite the opposite. I stand two meters tall and weigh 110 kilos. Despite my age mid-seventies--I am in the shape of my life. His sidekick quickly backed away when his partner in crime went down. But I learned my lesson and avoided the arcades on either side of the Avenue de l'independence after dark. Better to walk in the inner lane reserved for parking.

[/QUOTE]Thanks for a great and useful report, good to hear you got away scot free, Viking! On balance, in which order would you rate the hotels you stayed in? Glacier seems adequate, and I assume not they are not focusing on families, so quite solo traveler friendly as compared to Shangai?

Yes don't worry about bringing girls to Glacier hotel. You can bring 5 girls a day if you wish haha.

[QUOTE=PuteNut;2767111]Thanks for a great and useful report, good to hear you got away scot free, Viking! On balance, in which order would you rate the hotels you stayed in? Glacier seems adequate, and I assume not they are not focusing on families, so quite solo traveler friendly as compared to Shangai?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kako123;2767292]Yes don't worry about bringing girls to Glacier hotel. You can bring 5 girls a day if you wish haha.[/QUOTE]Sounds great, but does the joiner fee kick in with number 6..? LOL.

[QUOTE=Kako123;2767292]Yes don't worry about bringing girls to Glacier hotel. You can bring 5 girls a day if you wish haha.[/QUOTE]Glacier is by far the best GF hotel I stayed at. Staff is very friendly and will actually set you up too. Be good to them and they will treat you well too.

Hope you enjoy your stay.

Stay 11/2022.

Wanted to try something new and went to the Hotel Shalimar next to LE Realis Normande on the recommendation of someone from ISG.

This is about a 3 minute walk from the Sole Hotel.

I roamed around everywhere at night and found everything sufficiently safe.

Had a premium room but was superfluous. Medium would have been enough. The only difference to the medium is that air conditioning can be included here, but it is superfluous. Not needed in Tana.

Walk-in had moved into the room without booking anything beforehand.

You can also pay for the room at the reception with a card, also with Mastercard.

My room was on the third floor. During the day it is audibly loud. However, it was quiet at night.

The room was very large and extremely spacious.

Everything made a clean impression.

The WIFI was super fast.

A modern lift is also available.

No safe.

Fridge available.

TV with many channels.

Ladies visit with ID no problem. Had a few Streethookers wit me.

There is a restaurant in the hotel below from 8 am to 10 pm. You can also have breakfast there for a fee.

You can also use the room telephone to order breakfast and food to your room.

A great hotel in my opinion. I would definitely visit again. Nobody should really be put off by the location, it's really around the corner from the Sole and no problem, since it's a long walk, even at night. You just have to go down a long street.

In addition, it is also cheaper than Sole.

Absolute recommendation!

The room looks great, more modern than Glacier. I will be sure to check it out next time.

[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2767824]Stay 11/2022.

Wanted to try something new and went to the Hotel Shalimar next to LE Realis Normande on the recommendation of someone from ISG.

This is about a 3 minute walk from the Sole Hotel.

I roamed around everywhere at night and found everything sufficiently safe.

Had a premium room but was superfluous. Medium would have been enough. The only difference to the medium is that air conditioning can be included here, but it is superfluous. Not needed in Tana.

Walk-in had moved into the room without booking anything beforehand.

You can also pay for the room at the reception with a card, also with Mastercard.

My room was on the third floor. During the day it is audibly loud. However, it was quiet at night.

The room was very large and extremely spacious.

Everything made a clean impression.

The WIFI was super fast.

A modern lift is also available.

No safe.

Fridge available.

TV with many channels.

Ladies visit with ID no problem. Had a few Streethookers wit me.

There is a restaurant in the hotel below from 8 am to 10 pm. You can also have breakfast there for a fee.

You can also use the room telephone to order breakfast and food to your room.

A great hotel in my opinion. I would definitely visit again. Nobody should really be put off by the location, it's really around the corner from the Sole and no problem, since it's a long walk, even at night. You just have to go down a long street.

In addition, it is also cheaper than Sole.

Absolute recommendation![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2765339]Ah I forgot to mention. There's NO McDonalds. NO Starbucks. NO Airbnb. NO Booking. No Aircon 4* Hotel international Brand Name except Tana.[/QUOTE]There are some nice AirBnBs in Andohalo district of Tana, 1.3 Km South-East of The Glacier bar / hotel. Cost around $35-50 per night but well-discounted (one-third off) for stays of 28 days and up.

AirBnBs further out are similarly priced but possibly quieter, with less air pollution. Need to select 'self-contained' or 'private entrance'. No walk-of-shame or guest registration, of course, but avoid properties where the owner lives adjacent (they usually do not). Antananarivo lies at 4,200 feet elevation, so comfortable humidity but cool in winter (June-September). 17.8% oxygen vs. 20.9% at sea level (15% less).

There is one KFC in Tana, next to Shoprite (Ambodivona), 1.75 Km North of the tourist district. Portent of more chains to come?

I forgot to add that I brought gifts with me. Other than the usual perfumes and soaps and scarves I brought a dozen or so sex toys which were much appreciated by the girls and not readily available in Madagascar. I let them keep one as keepsake. This one girl said " I have no boyfriend, no husband, but now I do. " Very cute. As I shared, I would typically have drinks and a snack with the girl of my choice before heading back to my room, just to check out the chemistry. The Glacier bar is too noisy for any meaningful conversation. Treating your girl well is a good investment and paid off big time.

I am back home now with many fond memories.

Cheers!

[QUOTE=Trevor2522;2768326]There are some nice AirBnBs in Andohalo district of Tana, 1.3 Km South-East of The Glacier bar / hotel. Cost around $35-50 per night but well-discounted (one-third off) for stays of 28 days and up.

AirBnBs further out are similarly priced but possibly quieter, with less air pollution. Need to select 'self-contained' or 'private entrance'. No walk-of-shame or guest registration, of course, but avoid properties where the owner lives adjacent (they usually do not). Antananarivo lies at 4,200 feet elevation, so comfortable humidity but cool in winter (June-September). 17.8% oxygen vs. 20.9% at sea level (15% less).

There is one KFC in Tana, next to Shoprite (Ambodivona), 1.75 Km North of the tourist district. Portent of more chains to come?[/QUOTE]Ah. It seems another keyboard warrior at work. Only clueless tourists need an AirBnB. And KFC?. Who needs KFC. That's only used by US Embassy personnel. I get crispy chicken. And chips on every street corner in Africa.

La Buse.

There's no walk of Shame. What is that? Shagging is as normal as drinking water. The receptionist is grinning all the time every time I take a chica up to shag. Kabisa.

[QUOTE=Trevor2522;2768326]There are some nice AirBnBs in Andohalo district of Tana, 1.3 Km South-East of The Glacier bar / hotel. Cost around $35-50 per night but well-discounted (one-third off) for stays of 28 days and up.

AirBnBs further out are similarly priced but possibly quieter, with less air pollution. Need to select 'self-contained' or 'private entrance'. No walk-of-shame or guest registration, of course, but avoid properties where the owner lives adjacent (they usually do not). ?[/QUOTE]AirBnB is the site with the most fake offers. The appartement does exist eventually, but its run by an amateur, asking for similar prices as you can get a hotel room with full service. For a tourist staying in town for a week or two, AirBnB does not make sense.

In addition: the location in the middle of rubbish. Had you ever been there in Andohalo? Its a hilly area without any tousirtic infrastucture. Makes no sense at all for a gentlemen's tourist to stay there.

In Antananrivo center you can find easy good and cheap hotels. Just follow the infos from previous travellers and not Mr Google Search!

Arrived with air France with 1 hour delay as the airport stuff manage mix up peoples luggage and bring it to another plane instead so it takes 1 hour sort it out and bring it back. Customs was quiet quick visa 35 euros for 1 month payed with my debit card as don't have any cash. Take 800 k cash with mastercard from bvf ATM with 8 k charge All phone cards seller was open at 1. 30 am at night telma, airtel, orange. Bought orange 3 GB internet with sim for 32 k as its working best. Walk out from terminal ignore taxis for 70 k instead walk to airport car park and saw 3 taxi guys parked few looks a bit dodgy. Offer for one older guy 40 k he refuses as he said he needs pay parking fee. Agree for 50 k at the end and of we go. The guy know some english so we have some chat. He was speaking english I was french as I want improve everything I learn in 5 month time listening audio on my way to work at england. Arrived at sole hotel they give me quiet room as always. Went straight to bed as was tired as a dog.

Wake up in a morning get girl contact from another guy which was at mada with me last time. I saw this girl before already in person just not fucked yet she has great body no kids but face just ok. She agree come my hotel for 40 k. We spend few hours together she was good and fun make me cum 2 times so I gave her 48 k in the end. She was happy with that and not stop me texting till now for repeat. Price increase in mada like everywhere in a world for hotels, food, diesel and so on. Like example cake with juice at glacier was 10 k 6 month ago now same mix is 14 k. Night time decided to check all nightlife as I knew 3 new discos appear from my last visit. Walk around freelancers spots like always all girls is not fuckable. Later went to glacier nothing new here if you find something to fuck here you are lucky as 99 percent girls is in bad shape. Later went to check new disco name (Red. Night. Tana) is just next to irish pub entry fee is 20 k ariary with one free drink of your choice 23 pm it was full. This place is for richer malagashy or go party with your girl. People inside has money girls is siting alone with black labels bottles smoking shishas and enjoy the night. Not a place for mongering finish my drink and walk to disco name club ibiza (ex la suite 101) nothing to much happens here just some local band playing waste 10 k on entry. After walk to check out new disco name djembe (ex LE six) no entry but not much happening also. Walk to mansoon it was full at midnight but all girls is not good looking. Saw just one really cute 19 years old girl from fort daulphin without kids. Offer her 60 k ariary for all night but get answer no and 150 k instead (I thought I heard bad on loud music and ask her to type it on my phone.) She type the same 150 k. I just laugh at her and say no 60 k. She go down to 100 k but no more so I just walk away. Never have same situations at my previous trips. Went out find a taxi some girls follow me and ask if I can give them a lift for taxibe also I said jump in no problem. Police stop us on the way but not ask any passport (even I have visa page on my phone) . Taxibe was packed at night with many girls but I saw just 3 in total I liked in 1. 5 hour time spend here. First girl I chatted refuse 60 k offer for all night she want 100 k so I skip her and find another I like she refuse 60 k also so I went for another one which I like I start understand if I not increase my price I will go sleep hotel alone as its not was more girls of my liking. I offer 80 k for her she said small at first but after some time agree. Its more like her sister agree for her as the girl don't speak almost any french. She was cute 18 years old no kids from toliara. So we went back hotel sex was fine but nothing special she was also super shy for photos and don't want to make it. Fuck her at night one time in a morning and kick her out with 80 k ariary (haha never pay so much before in tana yet). Seems 60 k max not work anymore for all better looking girls from discos. Also forget to check new disco name (nirvana) its just close from taxibe at President hotel if someone interested to check. Taxi be seems its still best option to find better looking girls and 2 am stil packed with many people coming in.

Next day decide play facebook games. Have many beauties contacts from tana but they refuse come staight to hotel room but all agree to meet in person outside. I Remember I have model girl contact which I meet at sole hotel 6 month ago at model competition at restaurant on the rooftop but that time she was just 17 years old so just take contact. This time she is 18 and agree go out for date with me. We went out for eat pizza at gastronome pizza and after for few drinks and for a walk. Later I offer go my hotel watch youtube music videos and she agree. Sex was great and she was fun to be. In a morning I gave her 20 k ariary taxi money she was happy as I treat her life a GF. Seems sometimes I need adjust for dating to get best girls instead pure mongering as it works great. I checked out from hotel and went to cottise transport to take taxi brouss to ambanja. Will stay here for 1 day as I have 4-5 facebook contacts which want to fuck. After to nosybe. Posted long report to kill the time as nothing to do anyway at cottis transport taxi brouss.

Arrived with air France with 1 hour delay as the airport stuff manage mix up peoples luggage and bring it to another plane instead so it takes 1 hour sort it out and bring it back. Customs was quiet quick visa 35 euros for 1 month payed with my debit card as don't have any cash. Take 800 k cash with mastercard from bvf ATM with 8 k charge All phone cards seller was open at 1. 30 am at night telma, airtel, orange. Bought orange 3 GB internet with sim for 32 k as its working best. Walk out from terminal ignore taxis for 70 k instead walk to airport car park and saw 3 taxi guys parked few looks a bit dodgy. Offer for one older guy 40 k he refuses as he said he needs pay parking fee. Agree for 50 k at the end and of we go. The guy know some english so we have some chat. He was speaking english I was french as I want improve everything I learn in 5 month time listening audio on my way to work at england. Arrived at sole hotel they give me quiet room as always. Went straight to bed as was tired as a dog.

Wake up in a morning get girl contact from another guy which was at mada with me last time. I saw this girl before already in person just not fucked yet she has great body no kids but face just ok. She agree come my hotel for 40 k. We spend few hours together she was good and fun make me cum 2 times so I gave her 48 k in the end. She was happy with that and not stop me texting till now for repeat. Price increase in mada like everywhere in a world for hotels, food, diesel and so on. Like example cake with juice at glacier was 10 k 6 month ago now same mix is 14 k. Night time decided to check all nightlife as I knew 3 new discos appear from my last visit. Walk around freelancers spots like always all girls is not fuckable. Later went to glacier nothing new here if you find something to fuck here you are lucky as 99 percent girls is in bad shape. Later went to check new disco name (Red. Night. Tana) is just next to irish pub entry fee is 20 k ariary with one free drink of your choice 23 pm it was full. This place is for richer malagashy or go party with your girl. People inside has money girls is siting alone with black labels bottles smoking shishas and enjoy the night. Not a place for mongering finish my drink and walk to disco name club ibiza (ex la suite 101) nothing to much happens here just some local band playing waste 10 k on entry. After walk to check out new disco name djembe (ex LE six) no entry but not much happening also. Walk to mansoon it was full at midnight but all girls is not good looking. Saw just one really cute 19 years old girl from fort daulphin without kids. Offer her 60 k ariary for all night but get answer no and 150 k instead (I thought I heard bad on loud music and ask her to type it on my phone.) She type the same 150 k. I just laugh at her and say no 60 k. She go down to 100 k but no more so I just walk away. Never have same situations at my previous trips. Went out find a taxi some girls follow me and ask if I can give them a lift for taxibe also I said jump in no problem. Police stop us on the way but not ask any passport (even I have visa page on my phone) . Taxibe was packed at night with many girls but I saw just 3 in total I liked in 1. 5 hour time spend here. First girl I chatted refuse 60 k offer for all night she want 100 k so I skip her and find another I like she refuse 60 k also so I went for another one which I like I start understand if I not increase my price I will go sleep hotel alone as its not was more girls of my liking. I offer 80 k for her she said small at first but after some time agree. Its more like her sister agree for her as the girl don't speak almost any french. She was cute 18 years old no kids from toliara. So we went back hotel sex was fine but nothing special she was also super shy for photos and don't want to make it. Fuck her at night one time in a morning and kick her out with 80 k ariary (haha never pay so much before in tana yet). Seems 60 k max not work anymore for all better looking girls from discos. Also forget to check new disco name (nirvana) its just close from taxibe at President hotel if someone interested to check. Taxi be seems its still best option to find better looking girls and 2 am stil packed with many people coming in.

Next day decide play facebook games. Have many beauties contacts from tana but they refuse come staight to hotel room but all agree to meet in person outside. I Remember I have model girl contact which I meet at sole hotel 6 month ago at model competition at restaurant on the rooftop but that time she was just 17 years old so just take contact. This time she is 18 and agree go out for date with me. We went out for eat pizza at gastronome pizza and after for few drinks and for a walk. Later I offer go my hotel watch youtube music videos and she agree. Sex was great and she was fun to be. In a morning I gave her 20 k ariary taxi money she was happy as I treat her life a GF. Seems sometimes I need adjust for dating to get best girls instead pure mongering as it works great. I checked out from hotel and went to cottise transport to take taxi brouss to ambanja. Will stay here for 1 day as I have 4-5 facebook contacts which want to fuck. After to nosybe. Posted long report to kill the time as nothing to do anyway at cottis transport taxi brouss.

Hey there how is Ambanja? May I have the number of the girl you had in Tana? Thanks.

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2769566]Arrived with air France with 1 hour delay as the airport stuff manage mix up peoples luggage and bring it to another plane instead so it takes 1 hour sort it out and bring it back. Customs was quiet quick visa 35 euros for 1 month payed with my debit card as don't have any cash. Take 800 k cash with mastercard from bvf ATM with 8 k charge All phone cards seller was open at 1. 30 am at night telma, airtel, orange. Bought orange 3 GB internet with sim for 32 k as its working best. Walk out from terminal ignore taxis for 70 k instead walk to airport car park and saw 3 taxi guys parked few looks a bit dodgy. Offer for one older guy 40 k he refuses as he said he needs pay parking fee. Agree for 50 k at the end and of we go. The guy know some english so we have some chat. He was speaking english I was french as I want improve everything I learn in 5 month time listening audio on my way to work at england. Arrived at sole hotel they give me quiet room as always. Went straight to bed as was tired as a dog.

Wake up in a morning get girl contact from another guy which was at mada with me last time. I saw this girl before already in person just not fucked yet she has great body no kids but face just ok. She agree come my hotel for 40 k. We spend few hours together she was good and fun make me cum 2 times so I gave her 48 k in the end. She was happy with that and not stop me texting till now for repeat. Price increase in mada like everywhere in a world for hotels, food, diesel and so on. Like example cake with juice at glacier was 10 k 6 month ago now same mix is 14 k. Night time decided to check all nightlife as I knew 3 new discos appear from my last visit. Walk around freelancers spots like always all girls is not fuckable. Later went to glacier nothing new here if you find something to fuck here you are lucky as 99 percent girls is in bad shape. Later went to check new disco name (Red. Night. Tana) is just next to irish pub entry fee is 20 k ariary with one free drink of your choice 23 pm it was full. This place is for richer malagashy or go party with your girl. People inside has money girls is siting alone with black labels bottles smoking shishas and enjoy the night. Not a place for mongering finish my drink and walk to disco name club ibiza (ex la suite 101) nothing to much happens here just some local band playing waste 10 k on entry. After walk to check out new disco name djembe (ex LE six) no entry but not much happening also. Walk to mansoon it was full at midnight but all girls is not good looking. Saw just one really cute 19 years old girl from fort daulphin without kids. Offer her 60 k ariary for all night but get answer no and 150 k instead (I thought I heard bad on loud music and ask her to type it on my phone.) She type the same 150 k. I just laugh at her and say no 60 k. She go down to 100 k but no more so I just walk away. Never have same situations at my previous trips. Went out find a taxi some girls follow me and ask if I can give them a lift for taxibe also I said jump in no problem. Police stop us on the way but not ask any passport (even I have visa page on my phone) . Taxibe was packed at night with many girls but I saw just 3 in total I liked in 1. 5 hour time spend here. First girl I chatted refuse 60 k offer for all night she want 100 k so I skip her and find another I like she refuse 60 k also so I went for another one which I like I start understand if I not increase my price I will go sleep hotel alone as its not was more girls of my liking. I offer 80 k for her she said small at first but after some time agree. Its more like her sister agree for her as the girl don't speak almost any french. She was cute 18 years old no kids from toliara. So we went back hotel sex was fine but nothing special she was also super shy for photos and don't want to make it. Fuck her at night one time in a morning and kick her out with 80 k ariary (haha never pay so much before in tana yet). Seems 60 k max not work anymore for all better looking girls from discos. Also forget to check new disco name (nirvana) its just close from taxibe at President hotel if someone interested to check. Taxi be seems its still best option to find better looking girls and 2 am stil packed with many people coming in.

Next day decide play facebook games. Have many beauties contacts from tana but they refuse come staight to hotel room but all agree to meet in person outside. I Remember I have model girl contact which I meet at sole hotel 6 month ago at model competition at restaurant on the rooftop but that time she was just 17 years old so just take contact. This time she is 18 and agree go out for date with me. We went out for eat pizza at gastronome pizza and after for few drinks and for a walk. Later I offer go my hotel watch youtube music videos and she agree. Sex was great and she was fun to be. In a morning I gave her 20 k ariary taxi money she was happy as I treat her life a GF. Seems sometimes I need adjust for dating to get best girls instead pure mongering as it works great. I checked out from hotel and went to cottise transport to take taxi brouss to ambanja. Will stay here for 1 day as I have 4-5 facebook contacts which want to fuck. After to nosybe. Posted long report to kill the time as nothing to do anyway at cottis transport taxi brouss.[/QUOTE]

Yes red club is full of richer or spoiled girls. But you never know. And ibiza (ex LE six) is not good as before. Mostly girls with boyfriends etc.

Your inbox is full by the way.

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2769566]Arrived with air France with 1 hour delay as the airport stuff manage mix up peoples luggage and bring it to another plane instead so it takes 1 hour sort it out and bring it back. Customs was quiet quick visa 35 euros for 1 month payed with my debit card as don't have any cash. Take 800 k cash with mastercard from bvf ATM with 8 k charge All phone cards seller was open at 1. 30 am at night telma, airtel, orange. Bought orange 3 GB internet with sim for 32 k as its working best. Walk out from terminal ignore taxis for 70 k instead walk to airport car park and saw 3 taxi guys parked few looks a bit dodgy. Offer for one older guy 40 k he refuses as he said he needs pay parking fee. Agree for 50 k at the end and of we go. The guy know some english so we have some chat. He was speaking english I was french as I want improve everything I learn in 5 month time listening audio on my way to work at england. Arrived at sole hotel they give me quiet room as always. Went straight to bed as was tired as a dog.

Wake up in a morning get girl contact from another guy which was at mada with me last time. I saw this girl before already in person just not fucked yet she has great body no kids but face just ok. She agree come my hotel for 40 k. We spend few hours together she was good and fun make me cum 2 times so I gave her 48 k in the end. She was happy with that and not stop me texting till now for repeat. Price increase in mada like everywhere in a world for hotels, food, diesel and so on. Like example cake with juice at glacier was 10 k 6 month ago now same mix is 14 k. Night time decided to check all nightlife as I knew 3 new discos appear from my last visit. Walk around freelancers spots like always all girls is not fuckable. Later went to glacier nothing new here if you find something to fuck here you are lucky as 99 percent girls is in bad shape. Later went to check new disco name (Red. Night. Tana) is just next to irish pub entry fee is 20 k ariary with one free drink of your choice 23 pm it was full. This place is for richer malagashy or go party with your girl. People inside has money girls is siting alone with black labels bottles smoking shishas and enjoy the night. Not a place for mongering finish my drink and walk to disco name club ibiza (ex la suite 101) nothing to much happens here just some local band playing waste 10 k on entry. After walk to check out new disco name djembe (ex LE six) no entry but not much happening also. Walk to mansoon it was full at midnight but all girls is not good looking. Saw just one really cute 19 years old girl from fort daulphin without kids. Offer her 60 k ariary for all night but get answer no and 150 k instead (I thought I heard bad on loud music and ask her to type it on my phone.) She type the same 150 k. I just laugh at her and say no 60 k. She go down to 100 k but no more so I just walk away. Never have same situations at my previous trips. Went out find a taxi some girls follow me and ask if I can give them a lift for taxibe also I said jump in no problem. Police stop us on the way but not ask any passport (even I have visa page on my phone) . Taxibe was packed at night with many girls but I saw just 3 in total I liked in 1. 5 hour time spend here. First girl I chatted refuse 60 k offer for all night she want 100 k so I skip her and find another I like she refuse 60 k also so I went for another one which I like I start understand if I not increase my price I will go sleep hotel alone as its not was more girls of my liking. I offer 80 k for her she said small at first but after some time agree. Its more like her sister agree for her as the girl don't speak almost any french. She was cute 18 years old no kids from toliara. So we went back hotel sex was fine but nothing special she was also super shy for photos and don't want to make it. Fuck her at night one time in a morning and kick her out with 80 k ariary (haha never pay so much before in tana yet). Seems 60 k max not work anymore for all better looking girls from discos. Also forget to check new disco name (nirvana) its just close from taxibe at President hotel if someone interested to check. Taxi be seems its still best option to find better looking girls and 2 am stil packed with many people coming in.

Next day decide play facebook games. Have many beauties contacts from tana but they refuse come staight to hotel room but all agree to meet in person outside. I Remember I have model girl contact which I meet at sole hotel 6 month ago at model competition at restaurant on the rooftop but that time she was just 17 years old so just take contact. This time she is 18 and agree go out for date with me. We went out for eat pizza at gastronome pizza and after for few drinks and for a walk. Later I offer go my hotel watch youtube music videos and she agree. Sex was great and she was fun to be. In a morning I gave her 20 k ariary taxi money she was happy as I treat her life a GF. Seems sometimes I need adjust for dating to get best girls instead pure mongering as it works great. I checked out from hotel and went to cottise transport to take taxi brouss to ambanja. Will stay here for 1 day as I have 4-5 facebook contacts which want to fuck. After to nosybe. Posted long report to kill the time as nothing to do anyway at cottis transport taxi brouss.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the update, even though some of it is bad news! Surprising that some girls are asking for 150 k and won't come down. Ridiculous really. 2 nights is a month's salary in Mada. I can't imagine they are doing much business.

Enjoy the 20 hours to Ambanja. You thought you were tired after your flight!

[QUOTE=SouthEaster;2769985]Thanks for the update, even though some of it is bad news! Surprising that some girls are asking for 150 k and won't come down. Ridiculous really. 2 nights is a month's salary in Mada. I can't imagine they are doing much business.

Enjoy the 20 hours to Ambanja. You thought you were tired after your flight![/QUOTE]If you are not filthy rich and dumb, you can always turn down their offer and look for someone else. Seeing that other girls getting more clients can bring their prices down. That's why we need to stay strong as a community and advise other mongers not to offer more than 40 k for ST and 60 k for LT. No pssy is golden. And greed takes WGs no where. We need to value our money as much as they value their service. Always bargain and never settle. Happy hunting.

After 20 hours spend in cottise from tana to ambanja I get very tired and want just run away. Its getting slower and slower every time this trips. 20 hours from tana to ambanja just dream now I was close to city antsohihy at 9 am morning so decided to stop here for one night. I stayed at hotel Sofia bellevue its nice hotel just 80 k ariary for big room, with aircon, fan, hot water, tv,wifi and has swimming pool outside. The girl who visited me said its best hotel in town. Also another better hotel in town is hotel LE paradiser. When I arrived at hotel I already has a girl who is coming to see me as I sort it out till I was in taxibrouss from my facebook contacts. The girl arrived around 11 am she was very cute 20 years old no kids perfect body and sweet. We talk a bit and I liked her straight away and offer to stay till morning with me. She agree but told me she has Malagasy boyfriend at town so can't go to town with me as don't want to be seen with foreigner. Her boyfriend is working another city and should comeback tomorrow afternoon. I like her honest and told no problem for me. After we fuck for 1 hour she was great one of the best sex I have in mada from many trips. Electricity disappear so was hot as fuck at room. Later we just rest on bed and talking than her phone start ring. She told me her boyfriend calling and ask me be quiet. She answer her phone speak something in Malagasy and her face change she become scared and worried start panic she hang up the phone and said her boyfriend comeback early and asking why she not at home and where is she? She quickly put her clothes on and was running away out from my room forget even about money (which I supposed to give as a present) Her phone was ringing again this time I just stop her and put 30 k ariary in her hand. She just said in French thanks and I am very sorry it happens and was running away it makes me laugh.

I went to sleep for 1 hour and after went to check city. This town don't have any bajaj or pus pus just shared taxis everywhere trip cost 2 k ariary around city (this is that I pay for 3 kilomitres ride) I met few girls in shared taxi so I ask them about discos in town. They told me has just one disco name club super taureau but its open just on weekends. I stop in the end of town and decide to walk back all the way to my hotel to check around. Its typical small boring town very hot outside and nothing to do. Didint seen any good looking girls on my walk just one cute teenager with school uniform so I pass her. Went for some food at hotel paradiser food was nice for duck with rice and small beufort beer 29 k ariary also hotel sofia bellavue has good restaurant with reasonable prices for big pizza was 20 k. This hotel was full of vazahas tourist who pass passing with their 4 x4 and guides. Wake up 5 o clock morning and went to station to find another taxibrouss to ambanja. Hopefully after 7 hours will reach ambanja. I am thinking I stop long trips with taxibrouss to much suffer 10-12 hours is pasable but not 20-25 hours.

Do it worth to visit antsohihy? My opinion its worth just if you split a trip from tana to ambanja or diego and if you already has girl who will come to see you so you can rest, fuck, swim at hotel pool and next day carry on for your trip. Otherwise better forget this town.

Main-stations were Tana, Tamatave, Manakara, Antsirabe, Fianarantsoa, Toliara and back.

Just read some resent posts with interest and have to say, I made some other in general better experiences which I like to share.

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2770096]
Do it worth to visit antsohihy? My opinion its worth just if you split a trip from tana to ambanja or diego and if you already has girl who will come to see you so you can rest, fuck, swim at hotel pool and next day carry on for your trip. Otherwise better forget this town.[/QUOTE]Interesting report. Out of the box to explore the typical Mada. There are so many destinations for a stop.

But tell me: which FB group did you use? Normally FB contacts focus on Tana only.

Arrived at Ivato late at night disembarked at the new fingerdock, what a Veloma!

Followed by never ending Immigration nightmare, four counters.

Anyway got expected with name tag by the bus driver. Money pulled out of ATM at the airport. All together ending up in the minibus, 6 of us. First Vahaza girl passing 20 K A to the baggage carriers, me instantly saying that's for all of us. LOL.

Arrived at hotel, damped bag in room and hit the road. Taxi to glacier pleas, price 10 K -ok. Arrived at LE glacier. Closed. Go to Colbert. Closed. Go to Manson. Still open. Driver wants 30 K!! And got quickly aggressiv, paid 25 K.

Rather bad selection of girls with had to bee expected. One beer and soon I had a acceptable on my siede. Ordered a Pizza and shared. The girl gave short BJ at the dark side of the bar. Upstairs the chambre separe does not existes anymore. Ok, we go home! She asked if cute jung girlfriend also can come. Alarm-bells ringing! Price and time? Ended up in 40 k each.

No taxi. We walk short distance home. Do not do this, but we were fine. Its pushing your luck.

Shower together make sure everything is clean. I always insist and give them a toothbrush to bee used.

The pro started her routine and made me coming. The younger more or less watched the scene. The pro lays by side and started to sleep.

The young one started her performance wich ended up in the bathroom with different positions at the wall and the sink.

Now I become tired, got the money out, 2 x40 K passed it over and made them pleasant clear to leaf. No taxi money.

First Mission accomplished, but the monetary siede I have to work on for sure.

Welcome to Mada. Veloma.

Moramanga is a medium sized city between Antananarivo and Tamatave. I stayed there only 1 night in Bezanozano hotel. If you stay in the rooms near the pool its quite good. 80.000 AR per night. 70.000 AR with negotation. The biggest bar in town is not far at all. Around 200 meters away. But not so nice looking girls, so I didn't take any girl there.

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2770463]Interesting report. Out of the box to explore the typical Mada. There are so many destinations for a stop.

But tell me: which FB group did you use? Normally FB contacts focus on Tana only.[/QUOTE]Its not group just facebook contacts you look girls friends of friends and send them friends reguest. All madagascar use facebook as is posible to have facebook bundle for small amount of money. I have more than 2300 girls fb contacts all over mada so never lack of girls any city I go it takes me 5 years to get all of them its not one day work.

I stayed at chalet des roses and Bamboo loge, they are opposite each other, both were 80 K. Gasy Car VIP starts there and goes to Antsirabe for 20 K. Well situated for walkers at day time.

Bamboo lodge is very hippie style with window in the roof were you can see the stars at night out of the bed. But no food or Breakfast. Chalet de rose has a restaurant for all of that inklusive Pizza, good Breakfast for 20 K.

Moste girls I picked up at LE glacier at day time but not all, peanuts there are 1 K, short time 20 k, over night 40 K what ends 6 to7 in the morning when they wanted to leav and give me some sleep. LOL. For good service I paid the taxi 5 K.

Cute young Gals some did not speak french. 3 to4 times a day I looked in LE glacier for a talk with girls or vahazas. Once I visited the zoo with a girl.

In the loge I had 3 times a duo in my bed. Hippie style. Often I treated them with drinks an food. Sometimes after the deed in the afternoon they asked not for any money at all.

As Bienenstich recommend I visited Pharmacie de Tana and bought a gonorrhea kit. The young long haired girl, good looking spoke good English. But I did not needed any medication after all. Just around the corner is Sakamanga hotel with super food etc.

I used what's up, wich most of them had or SMS. Some of the girls are still texting me now at home. Pleas send money (.).

I liked the street food at night on Independence Avenue from were I picked one girl up too.

My French ist at the level that I can run a conversation well.

This time I had in general a very safe feeling at all times at any place I was.

There are old and young french couples on their way up and down the island. Use common sense and you are safe.

After the first fife days Tana I headed to Tamatave by cotisse transport premium, wich I booked by telephone ahead. Premium ist not needed as for later I preferd taxi brousse anyway in most cases.

The travel ist not too scenic and the road is in bad condition but we arrived in Toasamina and I got a room in Joffre. You will find a place to stay anywhere, but if you have certain ideas, book ahead since tamatave is "booming" and one of my choices was "plein" - full.

Hit the road down and went to La Terrasse for diner. Good selection of food for reasonable price. Lots of expats in bad mental shape, tensions mangst them can bee heard and seen. Some fortunate very friendly ones too for good talks about.

Went to taxi bee wich was dead. Saw blinking lights on a high building, must bee a bar. Security open the elevator and up it went to the ever so dead New York bar, I guess it was Sunday.

The waitress came and I said I would leaf if she would not join for a drink, wich she certainly did. She spoke exzellent englisch, I spook french in wich she corrected me if needed. Changed numbers and after overlooking the city and empty the glas I left. Minutes after she invited her self after her shift to my room by WhatsApp.

She came and the procedure took place immediately. She had this kind of afro Bush, just some curly hair but nut much. So I asked her in the morning if I should shave it. Oui! So I did very passionately what ended in another long bang.

This time many People by the reason I have no ideas why assumed I was English or a american and I met some englisch speaking girls, but the Bar Girl was the only one I had sex with.

In the morning she left and I never saw her again. Because just minutes after I met the ultimative tamatave girlfriend.

But the Bar Girl still texting my now via WhatsApp, separate story.

Cottis transport to toliara.

After I met "the tamatave girl" I blocked the New York girl. Back home I deb-locked her and minutes later I received her first message. After some compliments, she said she is in trouble and needs urgently money. I replied with some nice nonsense and said I am back home and I can not give or send her money by telma. Sorry. In a second or two she answers, she will send me her Name Adresse and her Bank Account number of Western Union Bank.

Well that's about it, obviously sure some fools do that. Thinking about it now, I should have asked her if she could send me first a photograph of my work I have recently done on her muff.

Well, all I spend on her was the drink in the bar.

Prior to my visit I took this company in consideration for Tana. Tulear.

But, that means I would have missed all the towns in between or it would have made it very complicated.

I took only two times Gasy Car VIP, out of Tana and on the way back. So I stayed two times in Antsirabe and the fare was 20 K.

The way back from Tamatave to Tana I took Taxi brousse, that was pain on the limit and in addition to it you arrive after midnight at the station taxi Brousse in the outskirt of Tana and it was not so easy to finde transportation into the center.

Tinte's post reminded me to ask board members which hotels they stay at while in Tamatave. I have always stayed at Anjara but this last time it sucked. The WIFI was as bad as 4 years ago while most other hotels have gotten better. Hot water was out half the time. There wasn't even a toilet seat and after 2 requests to install one I gave up. The staff seem very indifferent as well and to top it off they lost my reservation but fortunately had room. Broken shower door etc. Very poor as I noticed many hotels I stayed at in other cities had upped their game. I wanted to try a new hotel nearby called Satrana but they were full. I did get to see a room and they seemed small but quite nice. Anyway, where do you stay?

[QUOTE=Tinte;2770911]Prior to my visit I took this company in consideration for Tana. Tulear.

But, that means I would have missed all the towns in between or it would have made it very complicated.

I took only two times Gasy Car VIP, out of Tana and on the way back. So I stayed two times in Antsirabe and the fare was 20 K.

The way back from Tamatave to Tana I took Taxi brousse, that was pain on the limit and in addition to it you arrive after midnight at the station taxi Brousse in the outskirt of Tana and it was not so easy to finde transportation into the center.[/QUOTE]Does the Cotisse from Antisitabe to Tana no longer drop you off at the Tripolitsa? I took this route in July and the Cotisse stopped at the Tripolitsa first where I exited, after which it continued on, presumably to their hq at the taxi brousse station.

[QUOTE=SouthEaster;2770973]Tinte's post reminded me to ask board members which hotels they stay at while in Tamatave. I have always stayed at Anjara but this last time it sucked. The WIFI was as bad as 4 years ago while most other hotels have gotten better. Hot water was out half the time. There wasn't even a toilet seat and after 2 requests to install one I gave up. The staff seem very indifferent as well and to top it off they lost my reservation but fortunately had room. Broken shower door etc. Very poor as I noticed many hotels I stayed at in other cities had upped their game. I wanted to try a new hotel nearby called Satrana but they were full. I did get to see a room and they seemed small but quite nice. Anyway, where do you stay?[/QUOTE]The last several times, I stayed at the Sharon, in rooms not facing the poolside. Since covid, while breakfast is included, their good restaurant was closed for meals, instead serving only pizza. Hopefully, they get the full menu back up. Also, the Calypso is good, if you can tolerate the rude staff.

The Miray is viable if you're a cheapskate, but last May for some unexplained reason they were letting only their own, that is, Chinese in. Joffrey and Java are both now Chinese run. Joffrey gone downhill with restaurant terrible. The Java is filthy and towels and sheets reek. There's others of course but only if you've travelled all the way to Tamatave only to insist on the cheapest possible lodgings.

[QUOTE=SouthEaster;2770973]Tinte's post reminded me to ask board members which hotels they stay at while in Tamatave. I have always stayed at Anjara but this last time it sucked. The WIFI was as bad as 4 years ago while most other hotels have gotten better. Hot water was out half the time. There wasn't even a toilet seat and after 2 requests to install one I gave up. The staff seem very indifferent as well and to top it off they lost my reservation but fortunately had room. Broken shower door etc. Very poor as I noticed many hotels I stayed at in other cities had upped their game. I wanted to try a new hotel nearby called Satrana but they were full. I did get to see a room and they seemed small but quite nice. Anyway, where do you stay?[/QUOTE]Agree about anjara hotel its totally shit I I spend 11 days last time on febraury in tamatave and 3 of them was at anjara hotel it was problems every day, wifi is not working or signal is super poor, electricity was disapearing almost every day, aircon is weak and so on. After 3 days I moved to satrana hotel its just 20 metres away from anjara I stay another 8 days. The hotel is small probably around 10 rooms in total but its cozy for 70 k ariary per night also rooms was small but aircon is working good, wifi signal is good just if you get a room which has wifi extender next to the room on the wall. The photo with red floor is from anjara hotel and another 2 photos is from satrana. Tamatave is one of my 3 best cities in mada for mongering never lack of new girls everyday to get!!

[QUOTE=Golfinho;2771005]Does the Cotisse from Antisitabe to Tana no longer drop you off at the Tripolitsa? I took this route in July and the Cotisse stopped at the Tripolitsa first where I exited, after which it continued on, presumably to their hq at the taxi brousse station.[/QUOTE]With cotisse I traveld only Tana. Tamatave, main stations. Twice with Cassy car VIP, Tana Chalet de rose to Antsirabe Residence Sociale, were they have a small office. I noticed that people get piked up and dropped on the direkt way, to destinations. The same aplise to taxi Brousse.

On the way south I stayed several day in a forest lodge. The Taxi brousse from Fianarantsoa coming piked me standing on RN7 up. But I had to book a ticket a head and pay 20 % ahead. Without the help of the hotel-staff and the service by telma I could not have done it.

What was the room price in Sharon hotel?

[QUOTE=Golfinho;2771010]The last several times, I stayed at the Sharon, in rooms not facing the poolside. Since covid, while breakfast is included, their good restaurant was closed for meals, instead serving only pizza. Hopefully, they get the full menu back up. Also, the Calypso is good, if you can tolerate the rude staff.

The Miray is viable if you're a cheapskate, but last May for some unexplained reason they were letting only their own, that is, Chinese in. Joffrey and Java are both now Chinese run. Joffrey gone downhill with restaurant terrible. The Java is filthy and towels and sheets reek. There's others of course but only if you've travelled all the way to Tamatave only to insist on the cheapest possible lodgings.[/QUOTE]

Minutes after the New York girl left in the morning with a fresh shaved pussy, I hit the road to la Terrasse. Just after 20 meters I saw opposite the road this slim tall beauty with long curly hair, Asian looking. I waved her, bonjour! And she returned my veloma. Smalltalk, in which she said she had a short break and is heading to her family shop, lets go and have a look. Yes her family runs a shop but it was clear to me, that's not very good business. She introduced me to the family, and I think they saw in me a good business too. She got instantly a morning off and we went to the seafront for a long conversation and some brochets. Followed by a session in the Joffre room. Her and her sister showed me Tamatave, and certain I paid.

In the evening we went to Poisson d'or. Exzellent grilled fish, LE capitaine.

I have never given her any money, but I enjoyed her very often and keep a eye on my expenses witch were growing rapidly. With her sister we went for instance to an Italian gelateria on the seafront were many Gassy people were too. Copas were 21 K!!

She took me home, showed me the family house. Very posh, great wall with glas on top, inside euro style. They had two cars. There was a photo of her finishing her study in law. Somme members of the clan life in France. " Why do you work in the shop? " La system malgache: to get a jop she had to pay first 7000 Euros. That would bee a years salary. According to some expats. That could well bee.

The relatives in France are tide, so they do not want to pay. Well anyway, I think about it, am I become crazy?

Anyway I told them I will head for Foulpoint in a day. We went for diner again were all of a sudden she asked if I do know a girl that is working in New York bar? I pulled the string, payed and wished good night.

The next morning I took LE taxi Brousse to Tana.

Were ever you are in Mada you get the konstant offers by taxi- poussepousse- an cyclopoussedriver. They do not like wehen you put them constantly down in french. Slap your leg with the hand and say: zanga zangana! I'm having a walk! They like that respond, thump um and smile. Oh here he is again, LE monsieur zanga zangana. LOL.

[QUOTE=Kako123;2771201]What was the room price in Sharon hotel?[/QUOTE]If you have to ask the price, it's probably too expensive for you. Sorry, don't remember exactly: I think around 120 k. Just show up and pay cash. There has always been rooms available.

Like the BJ in the Manson bar, prior to my visit I cultivated the idea of banging a chambermaid.

Was not easy, since most of them were well expired.

But I found her. Noticed the time when she does my room in the morning, so I just managed tho come back from my walk at that time.

Went in my room and said no problem, I am watching your are working. Smile and small talk.

The door was open, so I asked her if I should close it. She agreed. At that point I was determent to go for it.

Took her hand and gave her a long kiss, no resistance. I started to undress her, then she asked me if I would give her any money in the end, bien sure!

She had one of the best Bodys with good boobs und firm muscular legs. I banged her in various positions, she was enjoin it to. As I was about to come, she covernd my mouth because the window was open and her co worker was working downstairs.

I gave her 20 K and for the washing of my shirts a very good price, later she asked me for a bottle of soft-drink for her children wich I both her.

The following days we could not repeat, her colleague was around, I guess she got afraid of getting trouble.

Sure I will go again.

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2771150]Agree about anjara hotel its totally shit I I spend 11 days last time on febraury in tamatave and 3 of them was at anjara hotel it was problems every day, wifi is not working or signal is super poor, electricity was disapearing almost every day, aircon is weak and so on. After 3 days I moved to satrana hotel its just 20 metres away from anjara I stay another 8 days. The hotel is small probably around 10 rooms in total but its cozy for 70 k ariary per night also rooms was small but aircon is working good, wifi signal is good just if you get a room which has wifi extender next to the room on the wall. The photo with red floor is from anjara hotel and another 2 photos is from satrana. Tamatave is one of my 3 best cities in mada for mongering never lack of new girls everyday to get!![/QUOTE]First and last pic looks very nice. Rather pale girls and in tamatave too oh man.

Where was the chambermaid that you banged? .

[QUOTE=Tinte;2771757]Like the BJ in the Manson bar, prior to my visit I cultivated the idea of banging a chambermaid.

Was not easy, since most of them were well expired.

But I found her. Noticed the time when she does my room in the morning, so I just managed tho come back from my walk at that time.

Went in my room and said no problem, I am watching your are working. Smile and small talk.

The door was open, so I asked her if I should close it. She agreed. At that point I was determent to go for it.

Took her hand and gave her a long kiss, no resistance. I started to undress her, then she asked me if I would give her any money in the end, bien sure!

She had one of the best Bodys with good boobs und firm muscular legs. I banged her in various positions, she was enjoin it to. As I was about to come, she covernd my mouth because the window was open and her co worker was working downstairs.

I gave her 20 K and for the washing of my shirts a very good price, later she asked me for a bottle of soft-drink for her children wich I both her.

The following days we could not repeat, her colleague was around, I guess she got afraid of getting trouble.

Sure I will go again.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kako123;2771795]Where was the chambermaid that you banged? .[/QUOTE]My first attempt was three years ago in Fianarantsoa in a middle class hotel. I waved the maid, wich was in a other room opposite to my room. She came but I was not brave, man enough to go konsequent go for it. Later on Fb she reveald that she is always ready for that.

This time was in Manakara. So far I look at it that way: The thing is, any attempt towards a girl is seen as a compliment on the girl side. And the look always for cash.

That's not Europe, that makes it very easy. Not much can go wrong there.

On the other hand I went from LE glacier with a new girl over to Gastropizza and I spend a ice cream. After finishing the Ice cream she tells me she needs to pisse. Ok me too. First toilet left is the girls room and all were occupied so we went to the boys I suggested. Together in the toilet she did hers and after I wiped her pussy. Then I took my garcon out she had to hold and direct while I was having my slash. That did not go to well and I had to do the cleaning. After I asked for a BJ, which went fin.

Jess, sorry, the girls had no choice, since she is a pute from LE Glacier and if she says no, that would have meant just free Ice-cream. Trial passed.

It has been said bevor, Antsirabe is not worth to visit. Its not that bad. On the grand avenue are at daytime til night SW siting under the trees. Price is 20 K.

As I left chalet rose in Tana the receptionist asked me were I will stay in Antsirabe, I told her Hotel Diamant, she instantly replied: ce vulgaire! Yes rooms are out of another time and the disco is a hook up place. There are good restaurants and at mirana bakery in the center you get a petit dejeuner complet for 20 K. Always some expats there for a talk. It is also a place were upper class gassy go, but you are lucky if they reply to your bonjour.

Forum and in general all site is very informative for any of my trips.

I am traveling March / April in Mada.

I have read all forum and thanks everybody for your personal informations.

My question is how many days to spend in tana? I will flight straight to nosy be firstly.

How many days I need to return back in tana (flight from nosybe) before my flight back to europe (to check also the capital as a tourist).

My opinion is 2-3 nights, (all trip 19 days).

Feel free to add any other options.

Thanks in advance and hope I will add very soon a great report like yours.

GreekDIVER.

That is impossible to say without knowing what you like. Big spread out city with crappy travel due to traffic. Bear in mind that the weather will most likely be crappy as well so may screw with your travel plans. Wise to give yourself 2-3 days leeway as taxi brousse could be stuck in mud and weather could delay flights. Good luck and happy hunting.

First of all I haven't been to Nosy.

The answer to your question is very much depending on your personal preferences. If you are a beach and nature lover and find a girl that suits you, for sure you will like to spend as much time in Nosy as you can. On the other hand Tana is very fascinating city at daytime with a very exiting mithilfe also, LOL.

Two girls I met in Tana I had no sex with, ok one performed once a BJ. But the were very good looking jung slim companions well dressed to explore new places at night. Ok, you pay the drinks and food but that 's peanuts. On did take a shower late at night, cuddled me to sleep and now money was given in the morning, I was dating her twice. I like Tana.

". Online dark websites have revealed groups of men who are waiting for the opening of borders so that they can engage in sex tourism on the island. One such site, International Sex Guide, has a thread dedicated to Madagascar, where users update each other on political affairs and how these will affect their sinister trips. ".

From an article about prostitution on Madagascar here [URL]https://www.theafricareport.com/132710/madagascar-how-sex-workers-are-getting-short-end-of-the-stick/[/URL].

[QUOTE=Cucumber;2774502]". Online dark websites have revealed ...[/QUOTE]Is this a "dark" website?

I am not sure what constitutes a "dark" website but I don't think this one qualifies. In any case this article is over a year old and was already mentioned back then. Nothing new.

[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2774505]Is this a "dark" website?[/QUOTE]All people can have a look at this website. Nothing new!

The article, that is quite old, seems to promote the sex tourism so malgascian women can grow up their family.

Thanks both for your answers, 2-3 days would be more than enough to check touristicaly the city and main parts (2 nights).

Wish happy new year to everyone with health. Keep hunting.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=SouthEaster;2773380]That is impossible to say without knowing what you like. Big spread out city with crappy travel due to traffic. Bear in mind that the weather will most likely be crappy as well so may screw with your travel plans. Wise to give yourself 2-3 days leeway as taxi brousse could be stuck in mud and weather could delay flights. Good luck and happy hunting.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tinte;2773520]First of all I haven't been to Nosy.

The answer to your question is very much depending on your personal preferences. If you are a beach and nature lover and find a girl that suits you, for sure you will like to spend as much time in Nosy as you can. On the other hand Tana is very fascinating city at daytime with a very exiting mithilfe also, LOL.[/QUOTE]

Did you manage to get your residence?

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2754497]They ripped you off big time. For a fluent french speaker you don't seem to have a clue how things in subsaharan Africa work. Everybody is your friend because you're their ATM. Your taxi "friend" is waiting for you to rip you off big time AGAIN.

Grow up and do thing yourself. The more wallet operators are positioning themselves as middle man the more Euros you will shell out. Madagascar is the 5th poorest country on this planet. My girlfriend pays 10 rent in her village. A MONTH that is.

La Buse.

Who's shitting paper right now to obtain ma residence ici.[/QUOTE]

Spend 2 weeks here have a great time will add some updates: ambanja_ankify taxi brouss is 6 k ariary. Boats prices from ankify to hellville is: fast boat-20 k catamaran-15 k slowest one -11 k.

Bajaj (tuk tuk) prices at nosybe: hellville port-ambatoloaka (shared) - 4 k ambatoloaka- dzamandzar (pharmacy) - 2 k bajaj anywhere for short distances like 1-3 kilomitres is 1 k. Shared taxi which you can find at hellville to nosybe airport just 4 k ariary.

Before I come to nosybe I was planing to have at least 2 new girls per day but my plan didint work so well as it was not so easy to find 2 new girls per day which I like. Prices for girls didint change in nosybe from my last visit. In 2 weeks I have 18 diffrent new girls in total: 8 facebook girls ,3 waitress from restaurants, clubs, bars, 1 girl from grocery store, 3 girls find at the beach daytime, 1 from tatie chris and just 2 from nightlife in ambotoloaka. Most of girls I take was for short time prices is 30,40,50 k. To give 50 k was my own decision for few waitress as I have the most respect for them and they was the best fuck so far. I have just 4 long times and payed 60 k most of the times. Nosybe have many girls this time but quality at clubs, bars is just so so after going here every day you realise you see the same girls nothing new. Taxibe, afrobar (ex biliard bar), djembe disco, tatie chris, serene disco they are all open and in full swing. Most vazahas places charge 8 k for small beaufort beer at malagashy places is 4-5 k. I don't drink any THB this trip so don't know the prices. Anyway nosybe is still the one of the best destination at mada for me for relaxed holidays with easy posibility to have at least 1 new good looking girl per day if you come a bit prepared with facebook contacts and use another methods to find a girls.

Tatie chris, afrobar (ex biliard bar), taxibe.

This picture brings back fond memories of LE Glacier.

Hope you enjoyed as much as I did.

Best wishes for the new year.

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2775389]Tatie chris, afrobar (ex biliard bar), taxibe.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RoamingViking;2775529]This picture brings back fond memories of LE Glacier.

Hope you enjoyed as much as I did.

Best wishes for the new year.[/QUOTE]Fond memories from glacier!! Wow unbeliavable are you serious? This place is go down completely. If you are into young girls between 18-23 years old without kids your change to find something fuckable here is near zero percent maybe its increase to 10 -20 percent if you visit glacier 20-30 diffrent times. Glacier girls quality is become very simillar to quality of the street girls close to sole hotel and around. I not touch them even they pay me!

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2775388]Spend 2 weeks here have a great time will add some updates: ambanja_ankify taxi brouss is 6 k ariary. Boats prices from ankify to hellville is: fast boat-20 k catamaran-15 k slowest one -11 k.

Bajaj (tuk tuk) prices at nosybe: hellville port-ambatoloaka (shared) - 4 k ambatoloaka- dzamandzar (pharmacy) - 2 k bajaj anywhere for short distances like 1-3 kilomitres is 1 k. Shared taxi which you can find at hellville to nosybe airport just 4 k ariary.

Before I come to nosybe I was planing to have at least 2 new girls per day but my plan didint work so well as it was not so easy to find 2 new girls per day which I like. Prices for girls didint change in nosybe from my last visit. In 2 weeks I have 18 diffrent new girls in total: 8 facebook girls ,3 waitress from restaurants, clubs, bars, 1 girl from grocery store, 3 girls find at the beach daytime, 1 from tatie chris and just 2 from nightlife in ambotoloaka. Most of girls I take was for short time prices is 30,40,50 k. To give 50 k was my own decision for few waitress as I have the most respect for them and they was the best fuck so far. I have just 4 long times and payed 60 k most of the times. Nosybe have many girls this time but quality at clubs, bars is just so so after going here every day you realise you see the same girls nothing new. Taxibe, afrobar (ex biliard bar), djembe disco, tatie chris, serene disco they are all open and in full swing. Most vazahas places charge 8 k for small beaufort beer at malagashy places is 4-5 k. I don't drink any THB this trip so don't know the prices. Anyway nosybe is still the one of the best destination at mada for me for relaxed holidays with easy posibility to have at least 1 new good looking girl per day if you come a bit prepared with facebook contacts and use another methods to find a girls.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your review. I'll be there in the early April. I'm looking forward to going there!!

Great to hear discos in Ambatoloaka have reopened.

As another ISG member recomended this hotel on forum I decide to check it out. Stayed at suite room for 117 k per night at 4 floor. The room is big and nice, internet was very fast everything was working good, just a problem best rooms at this hotel facing main road so from early morning till 7 pm evening is noisy here. Night time was quiet till 6 am morning. Also location is on slum street not the best to walk after 22 pm or so when I was going out at 11 pm at night and want get taxi to clubs I need to walk 150-200 metres till I find one as next to hotel is no taxis at night. I ask them to show me quitet rooms on another side of road but I wasnt impresed rooms quality much worst here don't have fridge and rooms looks older so after 2 days I move out. When I was checking out and pay with my mastercard reception guy give me 10 percent discount off my stay even I not ask him it was nice from him.

This is my second stay at this hotel after 3 years time. Its probably the best hotel you can get in tana for this price and quality. Stayed at room for 146 k per night on 4 floor off the main road on quiet side with balcony Everything was working good here fast wifi, nice room breakfast included but its a bit joke for breakfast. Enjoyed my stay here hotel is worth to visit if you can get quiet room with window and balcony of main road. Rooms don't have windows here for 126 k per night. After few days I move out as reception want I change my room to another one as another guest booked it for long term. They offer me a room which I don't like so I left. The location is good also just opossite glacier.

Staying this hotel just for 10 hours time as this night is my flight back to uk. The location of hotel is good around 100 metres away from glacier. The room price is 85 k per night with tv, fast wifi, hot water and fan the rooms seems quiet also its smaller size but aint so bad. This room reminds me somehow hotel room at satrana hotel at tamatave just a bit less cozy and without aircon. For short stay I think its worth 85 k. Also restaurant have one very cute waitress already get her contact will see if posible to fix something with her. Seems this hotel is very popular with french vazahas all rooms is full I get the last room and they let me check in just 12 pm as room was occupied before.

Not far away from shalimar hotel just on next small quiet alley has a hotel name saphir (can find on google maps) for 35 k per night. It can be good package deal for guys who like take ugly street girls around or just next to hotel has some freelancers even at daytime. I was passing by and one of them one start talk to me. I offer her 20 k in joke manier and she quickly agree. I just told her I will comeback later make photo of hotel from outside and left.

To me this time it was a very good place, apart from the toilet and the section of the bar next to it. It smelled disgusting.

Better use the toilet in the restaurant.

Especial in the afternoon I met there some new talents. To one it seemed to me, I was her first client in Tana. She hardly spoke any French and two of her friends had to convinced her to get going. It ended in a teaching session, a threesome in the afternoon, 20 K for each girl. There are some entertaining " lady-snakes " too, you watch your steps, LOL.

Most, but not all hotel ask for the girls ID. At Serena hotel in Tulear, the receptionist always gave me a call, if everything went fin he would only return the ID to the girl. They also checked it very carefully on arrival, so I asked what for hes doing it for. The receptionist and a young French expat monger made the statement that some young girls fake the age and once in the room the relatives or the police shows up. The way to make the big money.

Hi,

Does anyone know if the French restaurant at the end of the main street in Ambatoloaka is still open? That one after the Safari and mamma mia restaurant, located on a terrace.

I forgot the name.

Thanks.

I thought this was not common in Madagascar??

[QUOTE=Tinte;2776097]Most, but not all hotel ask for the girls ID. At Serena hotel in Tulear, the receptionist always gave me a call, if everything went fin he would only return the ID to the girl. They also checked it very carefully on arrival, so I asked what for hes doing it for. The receptionist and a young French expat monger made the statement that some young girls fake the age and once in the room the relatives or the police shows up. The way to make the big money.[/QUOTE]

In one hotel a girl just knocked the following afternoon at my door, try to sell her goods.

For your own safety. I was always fine with the check in but nothing is for certain since they can all bee in a plot.

It happens but its not very common.

[QUOTE=Kako123;2774817]Did you manage to get your residence?[/QUOTE]Soon I will bee retired too. LOL.

There's a germane site about it, with links to Germane official built-in. Relative simple if you start a business, hire staff and bring some cash. To get lose.

Fazit, for the last 10 year or so, more Germans moved back to Germany. I had a talk with a Spanish expat in wich he did admit, the move to Mada was the worst he has ever done and he regrets it every single day, but he can not go back. Sure there are some good examples but I met only one, married 20 years ago to a local Lady. But he said, it has worsens and nowadays he said. Forget it.

As for me great place for holly-days, like 6 weeks.

After the all I read in various posts in the past my expectations were sky high. Recent posts brought them down, and that is what I found.

I got there by taxi brousse came from Fianarantsoa, late at night and checked in my hotel of choice.

I was so inspired by the hotel amazone and its location, but that 's about it. The interior is run down and is rather on the expensive side for mada standards. Disappointment. After three nights I moved to Serena with is top Europe clean standard with walk in shower etc. The girls loved it too. Perfekt place.

Some members noted that food is a problem, I ate superbe. Best was " Chez Alice " and the Gelateria at Lalana Raseta.

LE Dromadaire was not very busy but simple food was ok and LE Boeuf was just nice in general rather expensive food and drinks.

Girls were plenty in all sizes and shapes, in general very hard core Pros. Discos and bars easy to bee found. For instance, I took one girl to Serena. She had a shower, wich she insisted to take on her own. She performed a BBBJ but no touching on pussy etc WTF. I stud up, took her clothes to the bed, made her dress up and threw her out with no money.

Besides that I had a great week exploring the place day and night with company to my linking. Food was great and I never got sick.

To bee repeated.

[QUOTE=Tinte;2778103]She performed a BBBJ but no touching on pussy etc WTF. I stud up, took her clothes to the bed, made her dress up and threw her out with no money.
[/QUOTE]Based! What was her reaction?

Thank you for your question. I did not beat her at all, if that was your assumption.

I rose, got out of bed and told her firmly to get dressed, passing her her clothes.

She asked for money but I harshly declined. She got the message of my acting like I was going to beat her if she would not go immediately.

If I read the news about Mada, it is dam dangerous place day and night created by many things.

I felt safe at all time. Felt!

With the exemption of one occasion. I was in a karaoke with a girl and a beer, next table a group of young malgache on their drink. All of a sudden one of them came to our table and started to talk in malgache to me. At first I thought it was friendly but he got very aggressive as I obviously did not meet his expectations. I raised up and realized he reached up to my nose, rather lean in appearance. At home, what a delight to meet for a work out. I was just about to positioning my self to get it lose and give him a lesson. The hole place was watching me as I stopped, sat down and waved the waitress. " Get the security please!" The guy must have been waiting, in a few seconds a tall muscular guy came in, few words exchanged and he lifted the idiot up to his level and hit his forehead. After that he got thrown out. That was glose to a disaster I guess.

We left too, took a Tuk-tuk home for a work out. Being safe at home, it is great to remember but scary at the time.

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2770823]Cottis transport to toliara.[/QUOTE]Do you know how long it takes? .

[QUOTE=JohnDarkSmith;2783438]Do you know how long it takes? .[/QUOTE]30 hours. Have fun. Roughly 1000 Kms. Only somebody suicidal drives non stop to Tulear. Normally 2 days. Day one Tana-Fianar 14 to 16 hours day 2 Fianar -Tulear 14 hours. Weather and traffic permitting. Now it's rainy season. Road can be closed anytime. RN 6 to Morondava and RN 4 to Antsohihy blocked due to numerous landslides.

My advice. Fly.

La Buse.

I would agree with Neddy. I did a 30 hour trip north and it just wipes you out. I thought I saw an earlier post that Cotisse is doing that route but even with them I wouldn't bother unless they break the trip overnight halfway.

[QUOTE=SouthEaster;2783621]I would agree with Neddy. I did a 30 hour trip north and it just wipes you out. I thought I saw an earlier post that Cotisse is doing that route but even with them I wouldn't bother unless they break the trip overnight halfway.[/QUOTE]Yes. That's the problem. Cotisse used to run only to Fianar. Now a premium bus service was established from Tana to Tulear. Nonstop.

The page is a bit silent recently? So tourism is making slow comeback to Madagascar.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2783460]30 hours. Have fun. Roughly 1000 Kms. Only somebody suicidal drives non stop to Tulear. Normally 2 days. Day one Tana-Fianar 14 to 16 hours day 2 Fianar -Tulear 14 hours. Weather and traffic permitting. Now it's rainy season. Road can be closed anytime. RN 6 to Morondava and RN 4 to Antsohihy blocked due to numerous landslides.

My advice. Fly.

La Buse.[/QUOTE]My Mistake. The road to Mahajanga is cut. Not to Morondava.

La Buse.

Getting there but Tulear was dead in November.

Getting to Tulear, one Bridge in the region of Sakaraha was complete gone. Taxi Brousse had to cross the river.

Tulear was very alive at night, daytime sleepy, but I got organized.

I would regret not have done the journey by taxi Brousse but you need to make the minimum of 3 Stopovers to keep it funny.

Visas prices change for mada!

They decreased the visa prices? Hmm.

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2786113]Visas prices change for mada![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2786113]Visas prices change for mada![/QUOTE]Big news! I paid 10 USD for a 10-day visa last week. These new prices are a real deal breaker. How are people supposed to be able to afford to come here. Thanks for reporting this important information. Keep on top of it.

[QUOTE=Golfinho;2786305]Big news! I paid 10 USD for a 10-day visa last week. These new prices are a real deal breaker. How are people supposed to be able to afford to come here. Thanks for reporting this important information. Keep on top of it.[/QUOTE]Doesn't make any difference to me. The main problem was never the visa cost. The problem is the high cost of flights. Thanks God. Mauritius gets 1 million tourists a year. Madagascar? 100.000. LOL. An advantage would be to go back to 3 months VOA. Instead of 2 months plus jumping through the burning hoop extending for a further month. In any case doesn't matter to me as I'm proud owner of a Malagasy residence permit now.

La Buse.

Haha yes yes!

[QUOTE=Golfinho;2786305]Big news! I paid 10 USD for a 10-day visa last week. These new prices are a real deal breaker. How are people supposed to be able to afford to come here. Thanks for reporting this important information. Keep on top of it.[/QUOTE]

Yes if someone is considering to come here who cares about cheaper visa price? Flights are fucking expensive. They need to reduce the tax they take from airlines!

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2786330]Doesn't make any difference to me. The main problem was never the visa cost. The problem is the high cost of flights. Thanks God. Mauritius gets 1 million tourists a year. Madagascar? 100.000. LOL. An advantage would be to go back to 3 months VOA. Instead of 2 months plus jumping through the burning hoop extending for a further month. In any case doesn't matter to me as I'm proud owner of a Malagasy residence permit now.

La Buse.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2786330]Doesn't make any difference to me. The main problem was never the visa cost. The problem is the high cost of flights. Thanks God. Mauritius gets 1 million tourists a year. Madagascar? 100.000. LOL. An advantage would be to go back to 3 months VOA. Instead of 2 months plus jumping through the burning hoop extending for a further month. In any case doesn't matter to me as I'm proud owner of a Malagasy residence permit now.

La Buse.[/QUOTE]Welcome to your endgame.

I mean prices usually only go one way especially these days. Cheaper cost of visa therefore is a very welcome surprise imo.

Three years ago I paid roughly 740 Euros, last ticket 100 euros more. That's about what I paid in the 90 is from Vienna to London.

The next ticket will bee likely 900 Euros. So what? That is cheap! In addition the low prices in Mada itself, six weeks paradise for peanuts compare to my home.

The Airlink route from Joburg is back. I took the maiden flight last Monday: 23 passengers on a plane with 96 capacity. Note: the flight inbound to Mada half the cost of the outbound. Just is just an FYI; if anybody doesn't like this route, so what.

Totally agree that airfare is cheap.

Compare mada airfares to other hobbying destinations and it is expensive.

[QUOTE=Bienenstich;2786995]Compare mada airfares to other hobbying destinations and it is expensive.[/QUOTE]Yeah. If you're based in SA it's comparable cheap with Airlink from OR Tambo, since they're back flying. Depends. From Kenya. Ridiculous. I am surprised that Kenyan is still flying. Delta waits for its bankruptcy, then they can pick up the pieces for a song.

From Europe. As we all know. If you're very lucky you get a cheap AF flight. Ethiopian. Good connections. But not exactly on the cheap side either. I have a different problem now as I need an one way flight back to Europe. Actually the cheapest right now. Ethiopian to Paris. AF ridiculous. The problem in the Indian ocean is Air France. Bloody monopolist. They control Air Madagascar and Air Austral as well as Eva Air. . To keep the air fare high.

La Buse.

Yes. For all my fans out there. I survived 4 months in Tana. Right smack in the city center. Around me people getting mugged all the time. LOL. I keep saying Tana offers the best urban survival training there is. It offers an abundance of girls. How to find them? Very easy. At the supermarket for example. At Pizza La Gastronomy. By walking around in weekends in Rue Independence where girls in pairs promenade to pick up boys. Case in point. Yesterday I was approached in the evening by four girls to pay them some cheap street food. We had a great laugh and I took the number of one of them. Since four months I explore another quarter of town every weekend which includes slum areas. I take public transportation. Taxi Be that is. It's only 600 MGA. And more often than not there's a hot girl in the bus. Strike up a conversation, smile and take the number for a future date. I also go to local Karaoke clubs. Great fun. So you can pick up anywhere. Anytime. Essential of course. Basic French and a smile and laugh. Of course you need to be time millionaire. Most people pass through Tana in a hurry. I was forced to stay also to finalize my paperwork for my residencia. Now it's only waiting game. While I avail myself to the carnal delights Tana offers. And there's also a lot of nice cute SWs if you care to look. You just have to know the system. And in my preferred Slum Area I can pick up girls füare 20 k MGA ST. But if you go in there with shorts and Hawaii shirt you probably will be mugged after 100 meters in broad day light unless you know the rules and the dress code.

La Buse.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2787149]I take public transportation. Taxi Be that is. It's only 600 MGA

La Buse.[/QUOTE]Yes, yes you are a legend man! I don't remember seeing any vazaha taking taxi be in Antananarivo?? Haha.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2787149]Yes. For all my fans out there. I survived 4 months in Tana. Right smack in the city center. Around me people getting mugged all the time. LOL. I keep saying Tana offers the best urban survival training there is. It offers an abundance of girls. How to find them? Very easy. At the supermarket for example. At Pizza La Gastronomy. By walking around in weekends in Rue Independence where girls in pairs promenade to pick up boys. Case in point. Yesterday I was approached in the evening by four girls to pay them some cheap street food. We had a great laugh and I took the number of one of them. Since four months I explore another quarter of town every weekend which includes slum areas. I take public transportation. Taxi Be that is. It's only 600 MGA. And more often than not there's a hot girl in the bus. Strike up a conversation, smile and take the number for a future date. I also go to local Karaoke clubs. Great fun. So you can pick up anywhere. Anytime. Essential of course. Basic French and a smile and laugh. Of course you need to be time millionaire. Most people pass through Tana in a hurry. I was forced to stay also to finalize my paperwork for my residencia. Now it's only waiting game. While I avail myself to the carnal delights Tana offers. And there's also a lot of nice cute SWs if you care to look. You just have to know the system. And in my preferred Slum Area I can pick up girls fare 20 k MGA ST. But if you go in there with shorts and Hawaii shirt you probably will be mugged after 100 meters in broad day light unless you know the rules and the dress code.

La Buse.[/QUOTE]Talk a lot but say nothing. That's what I mean.

We all thank you for your many useful contributions to the Madagascar forum. Hang on. Wait a.

Minute.

And tastes are different too.

It was interesting to see wich one of the expats made it brillant and wich one are fallen, by the chosen system.

Clear to me, the cheap ones fail. You need constant good amount of cash and all the time and connection to "home" and the opportunity to leave at any time.

The real problem besides, danger ist not to get bored after a wile. You need a real purpose there.

[QUOTE=Tinte;2788502]And tastes are different too.

It was interesting to see wich one of the expats made it brillant and wich one are fallen, by the chosen system.

Clear to me, the cheap ones fail. You need constant good amount of cash and all the time and connection to "home" and the opportunity to leave at any time.

The real problem besides, danger ist not to get bored after a wile. You need a real purpose there.[/QUOTE]A purpose? Just sit on a local minivan for half-an-hour, then get off and walk around some other streets for a while and you've had yourself a real adventure: same-same, but different. Reality is: there really isn't anything to do beyond the base and basic levels.

Boredom and loneliness are part of a real traveler. All others are mere tourists.

La Buse.

Tourists don't know where they've been, travelers don't know where they're going. " – Paul Theroux.

"Your true traveler finds boredom rather agreeable than painful. It is the symbol of his liberty – his excessive freedom. He accepts his boredom, when it comes, not merely philosophically, but almost with pleasure."

― Aldous Huxley.

Life begins at the end of your comfort zone."

– Neale Donald Walsch.

La Buse.

To the glorifying version.

Well to me, there has been much thought and told about subject but to me its utter nonsense as it led in consequence to the early death of the 69 released song singing protagonist.

Watch out, you are in Mada. Freedom is a mostly unknown subject to locals and me as a traveler, a stray dog wants to spend a drink and a chat witch you.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2788831]Boredom and loneliness are part of a real traveler. All others are mere tourists.
La Buse.Tourists don't know where they've been, travelers don't know where they're going. " Paul Theroux.Your true traveler finds boredom rather agreeable than painful. It is the symbol of his liberty his excessive freedom. He accepts his boredom, when it comes, not merely philosophically, but..[/QUOTE]What's 'boredom' got to with anything? Boredom is a consequence of a lack of imagination -- only. In Mada, after a brief enough while you see there's the base and basic: ride a bit on a minvan, get yourself fed and fellated and call it an adventure. You can even talk yourself into thinking you're a pirate or something for all the fun you're having. Keep it real.

[QUOTE=Golfinho;2789119]What's 'boredom' got to with anything? Boredom is a consequence of a lack of imagination -- only. In Mada, after a brief enough while you see there's the base and basic: ride a bit on a minvan, get yourself fed and fellated and call it an adventure. You can even talk yourself into thinking you're a pirate or something for all the fun you're having. Keep it real.[/QUOTE]Well. I enjoy myself. What about you? I found good friends. I never suffered from a lack of imagination. It's very simple. Madagascar is not for every one. Take it or leave it. You can do all things you can do at home as well. Except skiing. If you don't feel comfortable with Malagasy culture und Malagasy people. Stay at home. Wherever that is.

La Buse.

Boredom? Hmm hmm.

[QUOTE=Golfinho;2789119]What's 'boredom' got to with anything? Boredom is a consequence of a lack of imagination -- only. In Mada, after a brief enough while you see there's the base and basic: ride a bit on a minvan, get yourself fed and fellated and call it an adventure. You can even talk yourself into thinking you're a pirate or something for all the fun you're having. Keep it real.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2789211]Well. I enjoy myself. What about you? I found good friends. I never suffered from a lack of imagination. It's very simple. Madagascar is not for every one. Take it or leave it. You can do all things you can do at home as well. Except skiing. If you don't feel comfortable with Malagasy culture und Malagasy people. Stay at home. Wherever that is..[/QUOTE]As long as you have the cash to keep yourself in friends, Laissez les bon temps rouler.

A quick trip report on my expedition to Mada.

It was quite a short trip and I had a lot of non-mongering activities pencilled in so did not get to partake and explore as much as I would have liked, but still a bit of feedback. The trip started in Tana. I had only something like 35 hours there so only had a chance to visit one establishment. The infamous LE glacier. Visit was relatively early afternoon but still quite a number of options, though only one was anything above what I would call a 5 (and this was maybe a 6. 5). Good service though and stayed as long as I wanted (was actually hard to get rid of when it was time to leave). Around LE glacier itself to me felt relatively safe except a bit less so when it was time to leave and you have a girl with you. Then you are immediately looking like a target and get swarmed by cab drivers / touts. Around hotel Louvre where I stayed actually felt less safe to walk at night and you were constantly harassed by crowds of children and some adults everywhere you walk, but there were some good restaurants near to the hotel to get some great French food.

I had also a stay in Nosy Be. Flying up there from Tana. Flights are relatively expensive especially if you have a lot of luggage but time was not on my side so flying was the only option. I had around a week in Nosy Be. Taxi Be and the bars nearby had some good options, but it is a big shame there is nowhere with a decent crowd of girls in the afternoon. I found nowhere particularly good until around 11 pm at night (and it was rainy season so raining almost every night). The hotel I was staying in was nice but not well located for these bars, so you have a long tuktuk (if you can find a tuktuk near the hotel late at night in the rain) to get to / from the bars each night. Would do things differently if I returned to NOS. Either stay nearer the bars or try and line up a couple of long term girls to stay with you. Taxi Be was also the only place I took a girl from that I had an argument with about money. Every night of the trip I just paid what I felt was reasonable based on what I'd read on this group and never had any complaints, but on my last night in NOS had one girl try it on. Demanding 50 euros plus taxi fare and starting to yell and throw things around and threaten she's going to call some guys up to come over (all of this conversation via Google Translate didn't make things easier! Left a sour taste in the mouth. On the subject of sour mouths personal hygiene was quite an issue for about 50% of the girls I met on this trip which is not something I've encountered in other destinations.

A lot of the stay was in Diego so I had plenty of opportunities there. I'm more a fan of earlier night action so spent more time at La Vihinee than Taxi be (which again gets busy only late). Always managed to find something I liked each night but quality was not exceptional. I also hooked up with one girl that was working at the desk in the hotel I was staying in and another two who were massage girls in the beauty salons around Diego and those last 3 were probably the best of the trip for me with the exception of one Diego Taxi Be girl. Spent some time on the apps in all locations and there are plenty of pretty girls on there (much moreso in Tana than anywhere else) but very unreliable in terms of arriving when agreed and looking like their pictures so did not dabble too much.

Overall my impressions of Mada were that if you speak at least semi-fluent French and have a lot of time up your sleeve it can be a good option. It is also a good option if price is the most important factor to you. I saw plenty of French-speaking expats in the restaurants especially in Diego with very pretty girls who were 1/3 or less of their age and their weight, but these are not the sort of girls you will easily find around the notorious bars especially if you are only there for a short period or do not speak French. In short my feeling is the food is good, there is a lot of natural beauty in the country and a lot of women around for low prices, but there are other countries in Africa that I would return to before I return to Mada. As others on this forum have mentioned I would agree it is a country for advanced African mongers, especially so if you do not speak the language.

[QUOTE=DonKey82;2789389]A quick trip report on my expedition to Mada.

It was quite a short trip and I had a lot of non-mongering activities pencilled in so did not get to partake and explore as much as I would have liked, but still a bit of feedback. The trip started in Tana. I had only something like 35 hours there so only had a chance to visit one establishment. The infamous LE glacier. Visit was relatively early afternoon but still quite a number of options, though only one was anything above what I would call a 5 (and this was maybe a 6. 5). Good service though and stayed as long as I wanted (was actually hard to get rid of when it was time to leave). Around LE glacier itself to me felt relatively safe except a bit less so when it was time to leave and you have a girl with you. Then you are immediately looking like a target and get swarmed by cab drivers / touts. Around hotel Louvre where I stayed actually felt less safe to walk at night and you were constantly harassed by crowds of children and some adults everywhere you walk, but there were some good restaurants near to the hotel to get some great French food.

I had also a stay in Nosy Be. Flying up there from Tana. Flights are relatively expensive especially if you have a lot of luggage but time was not on my side so flying was the only option. I had around a week in Nosy Be. Taxi Be and the bars nearby had some good options, but it is a big shame there is nowhere with a decent crowd of girls in the afternoon. I found nowhere particularly good until around 11 pm at night (and it was rainy season so raining almost every night). The hotel I was staying in was nice but not well located for these bars, so you have a long tuktuk (if you can find a tuktuk near the hotel late at night in the rain) to get to / from the bars each night. Would do things differently if I returned to NOS. Either stay nearer the bars or try and line up a couple of long term girls to stay with you...[/QUOTE]Finally a very apt description. You came at the worst possible time. The cyclone season where weather can be sketchy. Arrive with 3 months time and basic French and you might find paradise. Good report. Not like a number of others here who produce only waste of forum space. And you met one of the few Malagasy drama queens who took you for a ride. You probably made it very clear you pay 50 k ariary and she conveniently wanted 50 euros. Voila. That can happen in tourist areas.

La Buse.

[QUOTE=MadDin19;2788249]Talk a lot but say nothing. That's what I mean.[/QUOTE]Neddy69 is one of the best contributors here on African countries. Not EVERY post he makes can be full of wisdom and tips for newbies, I enjoy reading what he have to share and he have helped me immensely towards my African journeys.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2787149]…And there's also a lot of nice cute SWs if you care to look. You just have to know the system…

La Buse.[/QUOTE]I suppose you where talking about the slum areas. Do you mean in the bars?

[QUOTE=TailPipe;2790206]I suppose you where talking about the slum areas. Do you mean in the bars?[/QUOTE]Area between hotel Melis and sakamanga was a good hunting ground for sw do not know for today but used to have a good selection of sw when I was in Tana last time 15 years ago and it is not a slum area and I also remember about 20 years ago I used to walk at night between sakamanga to Indra nightclub and never felt unsecure or threatened but would not do it today.

[QUOTE=TailPipe;2790206]I suppose you where talking about the slum areas. Do you mean in the bars?[/QUOTE]Both there's bars and SWs. But I'm not talking about the Sole Sakamanga area. That's general knowledge. I'm talking about a different quartier. But as I said. As a Noob you'll not going to last 10 minutes. And even if I mention the name it's no use as you'll not find the places I was shown and was sworn to secrecy. And only very senior member I know personal I'll reveal these locations.

La Buse.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2790343]Both there's bars and SWs. But I'm not talking about the Sole Sakamanga area. That's general knowledge. I'm talking about a different quartier. But as I said. As a Noob you'll not going to last 10 minutes. And even if I mention the name it's no use as you'll not find the places I was shown and was sworn to secrecy. And only very senior member I know personal I'll reveal these locations..[/QUOTE]Its good idea not share location on subforum as 90 percent of members here don't contribute any valuable information at all most just posting useless comments or posting their fantasy travel at mada. Even if you share maybe just one or few go to check it out. Better enjoy that places yourself till it last!

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2790458]Its good idea not share location on subforum as 90 percent of members here don't contribute any valuable information at all most just posting useless comments or posting their fantasy travel at mada. Even if you share maybe just one or few go to check it out. Better enjoy that places yourself till it last![/QUOTE]Exactly. And I don't want to be babysitting rookies who want everything to be served on a silver platter.

La Buse.

[QUOTE=TailPipe;2790206]I suppose you where talking about the slum areas. Do you mean in the bars?[/QUOTE]Neddy69 was in 67 ha.

[QUOTE=RangeLove;2790720]Neddy69 was in 67 ha.[/QUOTE]Bullocks. You have no clue about Tana: what to find where. But that's great! Just stick to GoGo bars and pay barfine to the pimps. LOL.

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2791010]Bullocks. You have no clue about Tana: what to find where. But that's great! Just stick to GoGo bars and pay barfine to the pimps. LOL.[/QUOTE]I have so far found what I was looking for in Tana, but never heard of a barfine system in Tana. LOL. Once I had a encounter with a petite girl wo calmed to bee a dancer in a strip local, je she was dancing hot with me. Obviously perhaps yet still much to discover.

[QUOTE=RangeLove;2790720]Neddy69 was in 67 ha.[/QUOTE]Infos about it on FB Lely panika, prices and services, location advertised. It gives you a idea.

So what is perhaps the pirates secret treasure to overcome boredom? Old news too.

FB Lely panika? Haha.

[QUOTE=Tinte;2791456]Infos about it on FB Lely panika, prices and services, location advertised. It gives you a idea.

So what is perhaps the pirates secret treasure to overcome boredom? Old news too.[/QUOTE]

Is there any reliable FB page to find hookers in Antananarivo? I don't think so. Just go to avenue independence at 7 pm and that's your best bet I think.

[QUOTE=Tinte;2791456]Infos about it on FB Lely panika, prices and services, location advertised. It gives you a idea.

So what is perhaps the pirates secret treasure to overcome boredom? Old news too.[/QUOTE]

Since 67 ha ist mention there for years, t'hats the point. No news. I am not in Fb meetings anyway, waste of time to me. Some in the group rely on it. But the system is obvious by the friends of one business girl you get a journey across the hole country and FB is often used by pros and it is very easy to bee recognized by the make up of it.

And yes, I perhaps belong to the 90 % of the sub-forum user, at least I speak a good enough french and that makes it very easy to get contacts in any circumstances.

I contacted many girls from groups like FB Lely panika but they are not reliable at all, some are fake, some are scam and the rest? I don't know.

[QUOTE=Tinte;2791655]Since 67 ha ist mention there for years, t'hats the point. No news. I am not in Fb meetings anyway, waste of time to me. Some in the group rely on it. But the system is obvious by the friends of one business girl you get a journey across the hole country and FB is often used by pros and it is very easy to bee recognized by the make up of it.

And yes, I perhaps belong to the 90 % of the sub-forum user, at least I speak a good enough french and that makes it very easy to get contacts in any circumstances.[/QUOTE]

And there is another risk: Police! You might be arrested by police and be asked to pay 500.000 AR if you call a hooker from FB. Read this article: [URL]https://www.expat.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=950974[/URL].

[QUOTE=Tinte;2791655]Since 67 ha ist mention there for years, t'hats the point. No news. I am not in Fb meetings anyway, waste of time to me. Some in the group rely on it. But the system is obvious by the friends of one business girl you get a journey across the hole country and FB is often used by pros and it is very easy to bee recognized by the make up of it.

And yes, I perhaps belong to the 90 % of the sub-forum user, at least I speak a good enough french and that makes it very easy to get contacts in any circumstances.[/QUOTE]

That's a good one to think about bevor you considering to visit Mada. Everything is possible there and has to bee taken seriously. LOL. It is a exam you pass or fail, to get your testimonial. I do not want to use to much forum space anymore. Think about the case, the various possible facet and the reasons it is.

A typical day in my paradise. I write this to all fans, lurkers, haters, good, bad, ugly. The average sex tourist has a major problem. Time. You need at least a month better two months to get a feeling and the lay of the land. For example today. I just busted my nut (sans Capote bien sur) in a super sweet (tsara be) girl literally 5 Minutes ago. Flawless tight body, nice be cups (nonos) shy and inexperienced, she would not give a blow job (fady) nor would she tongue kiss. Alas. How does a smooth African operator meet such girls. First of all you have to reach a state of tranquility of total relaxation. I walked around, bought water in SuperU. Then I returned to my hotel. At the way I saw her walking my Toliara queen. Hot short skirts, tiny top. A smile is all it takes. And a compliment in Malagasy (tsara be) to get her attention. All you do is start a conversation. Literally takes 3 minutes to collect the phone number. Which I did. Obviously she was short of funds. Not even five minutes later the phone was ringing. She's hot and if I let her have a shower at my place. As the gentleman I am I agreed naturally. After a good hours shagging her tight wet pussy. I released her with 40 k MGA plus Taxi Be fare 2 k MGA and 5 k to get her friend something to eat at the gargotte. Another day in paradise.

La Buse.

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2791010]Bullocks. You have no clue about Tana: what to find where. But that's great! Just stick to GoGo bars and pay barfine to the pimps. LOL.[/QUOTE]I am not just a lurker in this section. I have been to Mada 5 times and twice in Tana.

I also speak French fluently.

Prostitution in Mada is legal!

Hence there are not hardly any hookers around, even the Pros in LE Glacier do not call them self's a prostitute. LOL.

So what kind of guy goes mongering and does not know his legal status of what he is doing, just a fool is screwing himself like that. But for certain, to bee right and to get right is a different story especial in Mada. For certain that story is fake but for a reason told in a expatforum too.

[URL]https://www.expat.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=950974[/URL]

To the content of some FB advert, some of it illegal by Mada law. There is a reason why it is there. Just about the same like some of those secret slum Bars, NGO's and Pater Pedro do have a eye on them for a good reason.

(sans Capote bien sur) ? Hmm. Always or sometimes?

Some photos would be nice, no one is posting photos recently?

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2792577]A typical day in my paradise. I write this to all fans, lurkers, haters, good, bad, ugly. The average sex tourist has a major problem. Time. You need at least a month better two months to get a feeling and the lay of the land. For example today. I just busted my nut (sans Capote bien sur) in a super sweet (tsara be) girl literally 5 Minutes ago. Flawless tight body, nice be cups (nonos) shy and inexperienced, she would not give a blow job (fady) nor would she tongue kiss. Alas. How does a smooth African operator meet such girls. First of all you have to reach a state of tranquility of total relaxation. I walked around, bought water in SuperU. Then I returned to my hotel. At the way I saw her walking my Toliara queen. Hot short skirts, tiny top. A smile is all it takes. And a compliment in Malagasy (tsara be) to get her attention. All you do is start a conversation. Literally takes 3 minutes to collect the phone number. Which I did. Obviously she was short of funds. Not even five minutes later the phone was ringing. She's hot and if I let her have a shower at my place. As the gentleman I am I agreed naturally. After a good hours shagging her tight wet pussy. I released her with 40 k MGA plus Taxi Be fare 2 k MGA and 5 k to get her friend something to eat at the gargotte. Another day in paradise.

La Buse.[/QUOTE]

9 is a great follower of yours, perhaps I have not missed one single post in the past.

But that one leaves me speechless. Did you watch to many lemurs? 47 k MGA in Toliara for a one hour session, no kiss no BJ performed by a professional in miniskirt! Has the world wide inflation finally found its way and got to Mada? How will you meet the month end with your pension as a expat like that, have your balls finally given up and you need it once a month? Well 9 is a charming guy but I paid 50 K in Tana for the night as a maximum. You spoil as you once said, the so called market that way. Do not give up please.

As for pictures, Pokeris deserves my nomination for the OBE with his inspiring shots in the past.

No picture, I allays wondered why you did post only about 5 Ladys only from a distance in the dark. Is there a risk in doing like Pokeris I do not know? Anyway, it kept me off in doing it likewise.

So then what could be the reason?

[QUOTE=Tinte;2792732]Prostitution in Mada is legal!

Hence there are not hardly any hookers around, even the Pros in LE Glacier do not call them self's a prostitute. LOL.

So what kind of guy goes mongering and does not know his legal status of what he is doing, just a fool is screwing himself like that. But for certain, to bee right and to get right is a different story especial in Mada. For certain that story is fake but for a reason told in a expatforum too.

[URL]https://www.expat.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=950974[/URL]

To the content of some FB advert, some of it illegal by Mada law. There is a reason why it is there. Just about the same like some of those secret slum Bars, NGO's and Pater Pedro do have a eye on them for a good reason.[/QUOTE]

Hello,

This time I did 15 days at tana and 15 days at Mahajanga.

After 10 trips at Madagascar, I didn't know "ENZOY" , shame on me! I tried, it works.

Even if I am not a singer, I like Karaoke bar for the ambiance.

- at 67 ha you have many but the best is "MIA".

This time I went to the one at the end of " avenue de l' independance" of course not alone! But I am always the only foreigner.

The price for sex is still the same, only the bills in restaurant are bigger since the covid.

Looking forward to go back to play billiards.

Bonus: une " beautée" 20 y of Mahajanga met at Mahajanga.

It was and still is the same system human work it differently out.

Somme step on new ground and just fill it out as it they wish it to bee like. Ignorant.

Somme want it to make as the want it to bee like. Arrogant.

My approach is guided by humility first, I guess. Take it as it is and fit in, find your way.

There are People against prostitution and they can spread false information, for instance.

Money is allays involved and a motor so make it work your way not against you.

Spreading false information. People against prostitution hmm yes that could be true.

[QUOTE=Tinte;2793527]It was and still is the same system human work it differently out.

Somme step on new ground and just fill it out as it they wish it to bee like. Ignorant.

Somme want it to make as the want it to bee like. Arrogant.

My approach is guided by humility first, I guess. Take it as it is and fit in, find your way.

There are People against prostitution and they can spread false information, for instance.

Money is allays involved and a motor so make it work your way not against you.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LoveEastAsia;2793488]Hello,

This time I did 15 days at tana and 15 days at Mahajanga..[/QUOTE]Tell us more about Mahjanga. Not much info yet, except that the beach boulevard seems to be a good hunting ground.

[QUOTE=LoveEastAsia;2793488]Hello,

This time I did 15 days at tana and 15 days at Mahajanga.

After 10 trips at Madagascar, I didn't know "ENZOY" , shame on me! I tried, it works.

Even if I am not a singer, I like Karaoke bar for the ambiance.

- at 67 ha you have many but the best is "MIA".

This time I went to the one at the end of " avenue de l' independance" of course not alone! But I am always the only foreigner.

The price for sex is still the same, only the bills in restaurant are bigger since the covid.

Looking forward to go back to play billiards.

Bonus: une " beaute" 20 y of Mahajanga met at Mahajanga.[/QUOTE]I have been to Tana and did not have much luck in the city despite staying for 2 entire weeks. That being said, it was probably because of Covid. I still had to quarantine for several days. I spent some time with a friend and her sisters that I met online. They were fucking hot and knew what I wanted, letting me do my thing when I was not with them. Definitely not shy but I had paid a fair amount to them before my visit so that's likely why. I was surprised they did not let me put it in their ass and wondering if that's because they are sooo small. Is that anyone else's experience? That was my first time there. Most of my sex tours over the years have been in Asia (very very different). I wish I found ENZOY while I was there!

[QUOTE=DiscreetLuvr;2794619] I had paid a fair amount to them before my visit so that's likely why.![/QUOTE]Paying anything "before" is always a stupid idea. You are marked as "walking ATM" by the girls.

[QUOTE=DiscreetLuvr;2794619]I have been to Tana and did not have much luck in the city despite staying for 2 entire weeks. That being said, it was probably because of Covid. I still had to quarantine for several days. I spent some time with a friend and her sisters that I met online. They were fucking hot and knew what I wanted, letting me do my thing when I was not with them. Definitely not shy but I had paid a fair amount to them before my visit so that's likely why. I was surprised they did not let me put it in their ass and wondering if that's because they are sooo small. Is that anyone else's experience? That was my first time there. Most of my sex tours over the years have been in Asia (very very different). I wish I found ENZOY while I was there![/QUOTE]Apparently you have no clue. There's no anal in Madagascar. Go to Thailand and Morocco. These are anal countries. I don't know where you have been looking for girls. In COVID times there were thousands of street walkers starving. If the City and the Government would not have donated food aid, they'd have starved to death. A mate of mine thoroughly enjoyed himself. He always had live in GFs in his hotel room. He gave them both 5000 MGA a day plus he cooked spaghetti for them in the room as all restaurants were closed. He fucked his ass off during COVID for a song. Do yourself a favor. Don't come back to Madagascar.

La Buse.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2794825]In COVID times there were thousands of street walkers starving. If the City and the Government would not have donated food aid, they'd have starved to death. A mate of mine thoroughly enjoyed himself. He always had live in GFs in his hotel room. He gave them both 5000 MGA a day plus he cooked spaghetti for them in the room as all restaurants were closed. He fucked his ass off during COVID for a song.[/QUOTE]Some guys just don't know how to take advantage of a situation with starving people. Smh.

Just spaghetti?? Cool.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2794825]Apparently you have no clue. There's no anal in Madagascar. Go to Thailand and Morocco. These are anal countries. I don't know where you have been looking for girls. In COVID times there were thousands of street walkers starving. If the City and the Government would not have donated food aid, they'd have starved to death. A mate of mine thoroughly enjoyed himself. He always had live in GFs in his hotel room. He gave them both 5000 MGA a day plus he cooked spaghetti for them in the room as all restaurants were closed. He fucked his ass off during COVID for a song. Do yourself a favor. Don't come back to Madagascar.

La Buse.[/QUOTE]

BMOI Bank withdrawal limit is 1. 200.000 ariary per transaction and without extra charge.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2794825]Apparently you have no clue. There's no anal in Madagascar.

La Buse.[/QUOTE]With all due respect to an experienced Mada monger. Yes, you can find anal, but most girls will not allow it. I have had anal from about 10 girls in my nearly 20 years, and a couple were notable. One was a student type, not found on the street or a bar, but through my work. She was a girlfriend for a few years and absolutely loved it. Like no girl I have known. Almost every session ended with me cumming in her ass, and the anal would give her intense orgasms. Wish she was still with me but that was years ago and she got married to some lucky man. Can't post pics of her, but will of another remarkable girl, this one I saw a few times over couple years around 2014. From a bar in Tana, total PSE, absolutely one of the best at raw sex, intense deep throat, anal and videos. Documentation attached. And there were others. Currently there is a cutie in Nosy Be I can't wait to get back to, also hardcore PSE, was willing to take it, but I literally could not get it in. Will try again on next trip!!

VL.

[QUOTE=VavyLover;2795486]With all due respect to an experienced Mada monger. Yes, you can find anal, but most girls will not allow it. I have had anal from about 10 girls in my nearly 20 years, and a couple were notable. One was a student type, not found on the street or a bar, but through my work. She was a girlfriend for a few years and absolutely loved it. Like no girl I have known. Almost every session ended with me cumming in her ass, and the anal would give her intense orgasms. Wish she was still with me but that was years ago and she got married to some lucky man. Can't post pics of her, but will of another remarkable girl, this one I saw a few times over couple years around 2014. From a bar in Tana, total PSE, absolutely one of the best at raw sex, intense deep throat, anal and videos. Documentation attached. And there were others. Currently there is a cutie in Nosy Be I can't wait to get back to, also hardcore PSE, was willing to take it, but I literally could not get it in. Will try again on next trip!!.[/QUOTE]I never said there is no anal. But it's very rare.

La Buse.

There are girls who offer anal from time to time. I tried anal with a girl in Tulear but it was too tight. It just didn't get in.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2795491]I never said there is no anal. But it's very rare.

La Buse.[/QUOTE]Ten times in 20 years. LOL. Anal is possible in any country. Generally in Africa its not common. Whereas in Morocco it's standard. They offered anal without me even asking. To preserve their virginity. In Madagascar? As you write. Women who do anal do it because they want and enjoy it. But it's not part of the culture like Morocco.

La Buse.

Apparently you have no clue. There's no anal in Madagascar.

La Buse.

I never said there is no anal. But it's very rare.

La Buse.

It'snot what you say that maters, but the way you say it. There is no Music in it, Janis Lyn Joplin at least had a good tune.

Theres is anal in Madagaskar and some girls like it. It's also adverted in FB and since one can nicely ask, for enough cash its likely to bee on the menu.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2795626]T Generally in Africa its not common. Whereas in Morocco it's standard.

La Buse.[/QUOTE]Lend me your ears and I'll sing you a song.

To get things right:

Morocco by the way is in Africa too.

[QUOTE=Kako123;2795444]BMOI Bank withdrawal limit is 1. 200.000 ariary per transaction and without extra charge.[/QUOTE]Went few hours ago just 15 meters from Indra. 800 k max. Maybe specify where you are. Also it accepts visa only and I'm getting a slightly worse rate on visa but what can you do when your other card is being renewed.

I had a nice time in Madagascar. On my first visit to Antananarivo, I found two girls at Glacier, who were a bit older (compared to the girls in the provinces), they were in their late 20's. Cost: 80,000 AR LT per girl. After havin been in the provice I think that this was probably a little bit too expensive. But never mind, I had grest fun. On my second visit to Tana I looked around the clubs but didn't find the right girl. I must have been spoiled by the provinces. I went from my hotel to the clubs when it was dark and took a taxi. So I did what was recommended. When I took a taxi downtown (Independence Avenue) I saw a lot of pretty hookers on the streets. I would have loved to get out of the taxi in order to take a closer look at the girls. However, for security reasons I didn't do that. Hence my question to those who have taken a girl from the streets: how did you do it? Did you go hunting before dark? Or did you walk despite the darkness? Or did you let the taxi stop at the girls? And how expensive are the street girls there? Also: Are there other areas with street prostitution in Tana?

[QUOTE=Bienenstich;2796197]Went few hours ago just 15 meters from Indra. 800 k max. Maybe specify where you are. Also it accepts visa only and I'm getting a slightly worse rate on visa but what can you do when your other card is being renewed.[/QUOTE]If I was you I never bother that this guy is saying as he never been mada just trolling non sense most of the times. Any cash machine in mada can't give more than 800 k ariary from one go. As they give maximum is 40 notes from one time and biggest note is 20 k ariary so if you make a math is 800 k max.

[QUOTE=Tanatos2000;2796298]I had a nice time in Madagascar. On my first visit to Antananarivo, I found two girls at Glacier, who were a bit older (compared to the girls in the provinces), they were in their late 20's. Cost: 80,000 AR LT per girl. After havin been in the provice I think that this was probably a little bit too expensive. But never mind, I had grest fun. On my second visit to Tana I looked around the clubs but didn't find the right girl. I must have been spoiled by the provinces. I went from my hotel to the clubs when it was dark and took a taxi. So I did what was recommended. When I took a taxi downtown (Independence Avenue) I saw a lot of pretty hookers on the streets. I would have loved to get out of the taxi in order to take a closer look at the girls. However, for security reasons I didn't do that. Hence my question to those who have taken a girl from the streets: how did you do it? Did you go hunting before dark? Or did you walk despite the darkness? Or did you let the taxi stop at the girls? And how expensive are the street girls there? Also: Are there other areas with street prostitution in Tana?[/QUOTE]There are hardly any prosys at av independance before dark. They like to ask upwards of 50 k. But theres plenty of street girls willing to accept 20 k st when you approach sole hotel area from av independence. Less than 20 k if they really need money or she knows and likes you. There are other places in tana for prosys but really not worth it unless you don't mind shit 2 k AR st rooms. Always walked after darkness. Be extra careful after 8 pm.

Menu du jour is decent in LE glacier but other than that I don't think this place offers anything of value. You may disagree.

[QUOTE=Tanatos2000;2796298]I had a nice time in Madagascar. On my first visit to Antananarivo, I found two girls at Glacier, who were a bit older (compared to the girls in the provinces), they were in their late 20's. Cost: 80,000 AR LT per girl. After havin been in the provice I think that this was probably a little bit too expensive. But never mind, I had grest fun. On my second visit to Tana I looked around the clubs but didn't find the right girl. I must have been spoiled by the provinces. I went from my hotel to the clubs when it was dark and took a taxi. So I did what was recommended. When I took a taxi downtown (Independence Avenue) I saw a lot of pretty hookers on the streets. I would have loved to get out of the taxi in order to take a closer look at the girls. However, for security reasons I didn't do that. Hence my question to those who have taken a girl from the streets: how did you do it? Did you go hunting before dark? Or did you walk despite the darkness? Or did you let the taxi stop at the girls? And how expensive are the street girls there? Also: Are there other areas with street prostitution in Tana?[/QUOTE]Yes you did overpaid a bit, but both girls where happy about that amount and give you a good service wich is the most important, walking on avenue de l indépendance at night is not really dangerous (if not so old and in good physical shape) but very annoying because of the beggars, common sense must be used and everything should be fine (no flashing with smart phone, jewellery, etc).

Picking up sw while riding taxi is feasible and a good option as I myself had done it in some other area close to avenue de l indépendance.

Yes there is surely other place in Tana for prostitution but I never look for it but I think the nicest one are roaming place where there is the best chance for them to grab vazaha as the gasy customer are quite cheap Charlie. An other option which worked very well for me is to get a girl who will find and get you girls, I had that sw who the next morning did not wanted to leave and then she told me she would come back again at night with her friend which is very pretty so who I am to refuse that offer told her yes why not send me a video call when you meet her then I said to myself why bother to look for sw so I had her for the rest of my stay in Tana bringing me girls she knew a lot of sw and working girl just had to give her my preference of what I like (deep throat, heavy breast, bubbly ass, not too young 21 not too old <28 ,slim waist etc) kind of expensive cause you always double paid but do the math for airfare hotel meal and other expense and pussy will average 10-15% of all expense.

I am already here in Tamatave at the moment! I didn't also know that it is possible to withdraw 1. 200.000 ariary. But it is possible now with BMOI. Only with visa though no mastercard.

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2796389]If I was you I never bother that this guy is saying as he never been mada just trolling non sense most of the times. Any cash machine in mada can't give more than 800 k ariary from one go. As they give maximum is 40 notes from one time and biggest note is 20 k ariary so if you make a math is 800 k max.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kako123;2796601]I am already here in Tamatave at the moment! I didn't also know that it is possible to withdraw 1. 200.000 ariary. But it is possible now with BMOI. Only with visa though no mastercard.[/QUOTE]All cash machines can give receipt with amount you withdraw at mada so let us see some proof.

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2796389]If I was you I never bother that this guy is saying as he never been mada just trolling non sense most of the times. Any cash machine in mada can't give more than 800 k ariary from one go. As they give maximum is 40 notes from one time and biggest note is 20 k ariary so if you make a math is 800 k max.[/QUOTE]There is new Type BMOI ATM in Nosy Be. That dispenses 1. 2 million. The old ATM in Tsaralalana dispenses a Maximum of 800 k. Why I know this? That's my ATM I use since 2015 in Tana. The old ATMs can dispense maximum 40 Banknotes the new Type 60 Banknotes. As I wrote many times. Cut up your Mastercard. Only Visa is good in Africa.

La Buse.

[QUOTE=Bienenstich;2796197]Went few hours ago just 15 meters from Indra. 800 k max. Maybe specify where you are. Also it accepts visa only and I'm getting a slightly worse rate on visa but what can you do when your other card is being renewed.[/QUOTE]Use only Revolut but ONLY VISA REVOLUT. Mastercard is rubbish. With the regular Visa credit card the exchange rate plus fees. You loose 16%.

La Buse.

[QUOTE=Elmerfud;2796418]Yes you did overpaid a bit, but both girls where happy about that amount and give you a good service wich is the most important, walking on avenue de l indpendance at night is not really dangerous (if not so old and in good physical shape) but very annoying because of the beggars, common sense must be used and everything should be fine (no flashing with smart phone, jewellery, etc).

Picking up sw while riding taxi is feasible and a good option as I myself had done it in some other area close to avenue de l indpendance.

Yes there is surely other place in Tana for prostitution but I never look for it but I think the nicest one are roaming place where there is the best chance for them to grab vazaha as the gasy customer are quite cheap Charlie. An other option which worked very well for me is to get a girl who will find and get you girls, I had that sw who the next morning did not wanted to leave and then she told me she would come back again at night with her friend which is very pretty so who I am to refuse that offer told her yes why not send me a video call when you meet her then I said to myself why bother to look for sw so I had her for the rest of my stay in Tana bringing me girls she knew a lot of sw and working girl just had to give her my preference of what I like (deep throat, heavy breast, bubbly ass, not too young 21 not too old <28 ,slim waist etc) kind of expensive cause you always double paid but do the math for airfare hotel meal and other expense and pussy will average 10-15% of all expense.[/QUOTE]Excellent tactics. But then again. You're an old hand. Be careful though. I would not walk later than 8 pm. Mate was mugged at rue independence 9 pm of three characters with knives and a butcher knife.

La Buse.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2796647]There is new Type BMOI ATM in Nosy Be. That dispenses 1. 2 million. The old ATM in Tsaralalana dispenses a Maximum of 800 k. Why I know this? That's my ATM I use since 2015 in Tana. The old ATMs can dispense maximum 40 Banknotes the new Type 60 Banknotes. As I wrote many times. Cut up your Mastercard. Only Visa is good in Africa.

La Buse.[/QUOTE]Where is that new type BMOI cash machine at nosybe I wonder? I was at nosybe on end of December and was using BMOI cash machine at ambataloka near pharmacy with my visa card I get 800 k max in one go. I even have receipt on my bank statement. Mastercard works perfect in Africa I been 10 different African countries and always find ATM which takes it. (except Zimbabwe) and I get perfect exchange rate with zero fees for unlimited amounts. Revolut is not so good as it charge 2 percent of currency exchange fee after certain amount. Has much better cards than revolut which don't put any fees at all if you can get them. Mastercard gives a bit better exchange rate most of the times also compare with visa. I have both 2 visas and.

2 Mastercard's cards which I take with me for travel but prefer Mastercard as I get better rates and no charges. So your statement to cut Mastercard and use visa is useless.

I wish I have kept the receipt! But Neddy confirmed this too. It is not a joke!.

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2796624]All cash machines can give receipt with amount you withdraw at mada so let us see some proof.[/QUOTE]

16% Huh this is too high. I have regular visa (electron) and I lose around %2 %3 or %4 percent per transaction if there is no extra fee from Madagascar bank. If you have mastercard your best bet is MCB bank in Madagascar no extra fee for foreign cards and 800.000 ariary limit per transaction.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2796648]Use only Revolut but ONLY VISA REVOLUT. Mastercard is rubbish. With the regular Visa credit card the exchange rate plus fees. You loose 16%.

La Buse.[/QUOTE]

Yes I have seen a vazaha (an old one) robbed by small street gangs mostly below 12 years old only 100 meters away from glacier in rue de independence. I was not to far away from the scene but what I could have done. It was so fast. And I don't understand french. The man was around 60,70 years old and the small group of children gangs easily put him on the ground. At least 7, 8 children gangs ha. By the way the man was walking with a girl together (probably from glacier) she did no nothing!.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2796650]Excellent tactics. But then again. You're an old hand. Be careful though. I would not walk later than 8 pm. Mate was mugged at rue independence 9 pm of three characters with knives and a butcher knife.

La Buse.[/QUOTE]

Around 9 pm!

[QUOTE=Kako123;2796818]Yes I have seen a vazaha (an old one) robbed by small street gangs mostly below 12 years old only 100 meters away from glacier in rue de independence. I was not to far away from the scene but what I could have done. It was so fast. And I don't understand french. The man was around 60,70 years old and the small group of children gangs easily put him on the ground. At least 7, 8 children gangs ha. By the way the man was walking with a girl together (probably from glacier) she did no nothing!.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2796700]Where is that new type BMOI cash machine at nosybe I wonder? I was at nosybe on end of December and was using BMOI cash machine at ambataloka near pharmacy with my visa card I get 800 k max in one go. I even have receipt on my bank statement. Mastercard works perfect in Africa I been 10 different African countries and always find ATM which takes it. (except Zimbabwe) and I get perfect exchange rate with zero fees for unlimited amounts. Revolut is not so good as it charge 2 percent of currency exchange fee after certain amount. Has much better cards than revolut which don't put any fees at all if you can get them. Mastercard gives a bit better exchange rate most of the times also compare with visa. I have both 2 visas and.

2 Mastercard's cards which I take with me for travel but prefer Mastercard as I get better rates and no charges. So your statement to cut Mastercard and use visa is useless.[/QUOTE]Your information is outdated. My mate was in February in Ambatalaka near the pharmacy. And it dispenses now 1.2 million. Visa only. Times are changing quickly in Africa.

I have my contacts anywhere. And these are not tourists. And MasterCard. I never said it doesn't work. But how much money you get at SocGen or BNI? Not 800.000.

Of course it depends. My Visa credit card charges high rates. And it depends on the Issuer. Generally Visa is the better choice in Africa. Period.

La Buse.

It has been said I the forum what kind of behavior is potential dangerous in Mada, many times! Some get the kick out of it by looking for SW but after sunset that's looking for trouble. Take care! On my first visit I observed a gang fight just next tho the sole entrance. The doorman with the famous Cowboy hat told me not to go anywhere at the moment.

Do your homework! After my first visit I took French classes again. When you speak just a halfway French you will be able to pick up girls everywhere. No French skills means you are a looser right from the start and you are limiting your self constantly frustrated.

LE Glacier, I have been told; do not sit next to the entrance with your back to the door and watching your mobile while talking with the girls! The boys passing behind the window in your back and will snatch your phone that way easy.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2796897]
Of course it depends. My Visa credit card charges high rates. And it depends on the Issuer. Generally Visa is the better choice in Africa. Period..[/QUOTE]Cash is best. Period. But since you go to tourist places with ATM machines, and stay in cheap hotels, it's understandable why you don't go with cash. No matter Africa 'changeing', cash and the man with it is king. Running around with your plastic cards trying to chase bank rates is no way to spend your time. But, ok, we get it; you're scared to death of getting robbed.

The fee was 8'000 A per draft and I did have with maestro allays top rate.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2796897]Your information is outdated. My mate was in February in Ambatalaka near the pharmacy. And it dispenses now 1.2 million. Visa only. Times are changing quickly in Africa.

I have my contacts anywhere. And these are not tourists. And MasterCard. I never said it doesn't work. But how much money you get at SocGen or BNI? Not 800.000.

Of course it depends. My Visa credit card charges high rates. And it depends on the Issuer. Generally Visa is the better choice in Africa. Period.

La Buse.[/QUOTE]Haha tell me where is the big diffrence for me? 1. 2 million in one go or 800 k? I can take 800 k from one go with mastercard after put my card second time and take 800 k again and after again till I reach around 2. 5 million ariary (my bank max limit 500 pound per day for ATM withdrawal). And get zero fees for it with perfect exchange rate. So now sum up: Most visas card gives slightly worst exchange rates than mastercards.

Like example revolut allowed just 200 euros / pounds free ATM withdrawal per month after that charge 2 percent on top on any withdrawal and has just 300 euros / pounds maximum ATM withdrawal limit per day. Also if you use it on weekends its gives very bad exchange rate. Of course in depends from card issuer also but Mastercard for me wins against visa. If you don't use mastercard and don't know advantages or can't get the one who don't have any charges not need share misleading information. I have visas and mastercards and know which is better for me to use in africa to lose less money on using cash machines.

[QUOTE=Golfinho;2797006]Cash is best. Period. But since you go to tourist places with ATM machines, and stay in cheap hotels, it's understandable why you don't go with cash. No matter Africa 'changeing', cash and the man with it is king. Running around with your plastic cards trying to chase bank rates is no way to spend your time. But, ok, we get it; you're scared to death of getting robbed.[/QUOTE]I pay everything with cash in Africa. Except Air tickets. But you're correct. I don't run around with 1000's of Dollars in Cash. Unless you like to loose your life that is. I know plenty of idiots being robbed of 1000's of dollars. And yes. Am afraid of my life. I draw max. Until I used that up than I draw cash again. And I have two cards. A Revolut Visa Debit card and a Visa Credit card with a high credit line for emergencies. What everyone else does is of no concern to me. Or more precise I don't give a rats ass.

La Buse.

Cash is the best when you hide it very well. Buf if you are coming here for 3 months, isn't it risky to carry all the money for 3 months? And banks don't give good exchange rates for usd or euro here and small notes worth less. For example 5, 10,20 euro. They give less money for these bills, it is strange isn't it?

[QUOTE=Golfinho;2797006]Cash is best. Period. But since you go to tourist places with ATM machines, and stay in cheap hotels, it's understandable why you don't go with cash. No matter Africa 'changeing', cash and the man with it is king. Running around with your plastic cards trying to chase bank rates is no way to spend your time. But, ok, we get it; you're scared to death of getting robbed.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kako123;2797219]Cash is the best when you hide it very well. Buf if you are coming here for 3 months, isn't it risky to carry all the money for 3 months? And banks don't give good exchange rates for usd or euro here and small notes worth less. For example 5, 10,20 euro. They give less money for these bills, it is strange isn't it?[/QUOTE]Never been robbed and have stayed for months. Carrying 5 and 10 euro notes? Now that is strange. Why would you do that? For giving tips? If you're life and death to save a fraction of a percent running around to ATMs with your plastic cards, you're likely someone staying in cheap hotels, trying to exist spending as little as possible, like some backpacker in Cambodia. But, if that's your style, getting off with trying to pay a girl as little as possible, well enjoy your lowlife self.

[QUOTE=Golfinho;2797241] you're likely someone staying in cheap hotels, trying to exist spending as little as possible, .[/QUOTE]Low-life people don't get a credit card. Assume you are not entitled to get credit and therefore you only can carry cash.

Do it as you like but don't teach the majority here what's right.

Euros or Dollars cash in Madagascar in the brousse is of no use at all!

I haven't brought cash to Mada for probably 10 years or more, since ATMs became reliable. I never got as good a rate exchanging cash as at an ATM, it was often a hassle to find a good exchange place, and USD are useless otherwise, except as a magnet for theft. Euros are more useful but mostly with ex-pat businesses (tour operators, hotels, not food). Last time I was there, middle 2022, I was able to withdraw 800 k AR from BFV on Nosy Be with my MasterCard debit, and got a rate 4000 AR / USD. Have never seen a limit as high as 1. 2 million, but you can withdraw 800 k as many times as you want up to your own banks daily withdrawal limit.

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2797506]Low-life people don't get a credit card. Assume you are not entitled to get credit and therefore you only can carry cash.

Do it as you like but don't teach the majority here what's right.

Euros or Dollars cash in Madagascar in the brousse is of no use at all![/QUOTE]What's of use in the brousse? Your good looks and charm 🤣.

A credit card is of less use in the brousse.

Change into ariary arriving and you're good to go.

Yes, I am advising what's right: use cash and you don't get stuck somewhere out of the one resource that makes you attractive here -- money.

'Entitled?' Entitled to get a credit card? Are you serious? Banks give them out like a drug dealer gives out free samples to get you addicted. Lowlives are the Banks' best customers.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2797170]I pay everything with cash in Africa. Except Air tickets. But you're correct. I don't run around with 1000's of Dollars in Cash. Unless you like to loose your life that is. I know plenty of idiots being robbed of 1000's of dollars. And yes. Am afraid of my life.
.[/QUOTE]No one knows how much cash you have on you when you're running around unless you're an idiot advertizing it.

But they will know you have a credit card the moment you use it -- at ATM or anywhere.

Keep the credit card locked in the safe until you need it for online reservations and flights. Or memorize the number and leave it at home.

Cash is King. Enjoy it while we can before it's virtual currency and goodbye to life as we know it.

If you stay in a brousse then will you be able to hide all the cash you have? It is a bit risky to carry too much I think but anyway everyone is free to do whatever he prefers! This topic is getting a bit boring ha.

One thing is how you get the best deal at the ATM by using witch carte. Mine is the maestro debit.

Second is the question were you use the carte. I did pay allays cash, as they asked for it. Some places asked for a Tax carte de credit.

And yes in the brousse that asked for a pile of cash.

Moste hotel rooms are not safe at all.

New airport looks nice but duty free and others parts are a comedy! Duty free does not even sell any foreign alcohol brands or cigars and prices for local things are double or triple price! Though they sell local Thb beer which is for triple price and it is not cold! Not in a fridge! Haha And finally they don't even accept ariary for payments, even the very small grocery store which sells some soft drinks and sandwiches does not accept ariary! The restaurant is not operating yet. Information from yesterday 26 March.

On the other hand You made it save and clean to there and moste likely you had a great time in Madagaskar. Full of fond memories, get your self three week back to "normal" and checke your health status as it has been reportet by one wretch ho picked up the tripper unprotected on Prep.

[QUOTE=Kako123;2801853]New airport looks nice but duty free and others parts are a comedy![/QUOTE]LOL thanks for the info, same old wine in a new bottle. Curious about the new restaurant, will depart in one month.

What the hell is "the tripper"?

Hi, I'm french and arrive there soon for 3 weeks. Info about how to get a visa is very low: the french gov and Mada embassy websites don't say same things. Is it true that you can go there only with your passeport, and get a 1 month tourist visa at your arrival, at Tana airport? What anout e-visa? Are they legit, as there are dozens of different websites proclaming they are only the real one!. I can't call the embassy today, as it is a holiday for Mada people. Can you please enlight this? Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=SouthEaster;2802445]What the hell is "the tripper"?[/QUOTE]The German version of gonorrhea.

Yes, I did always simple Visa on Arrival.

[QUOTE=NamasteParis;2802477]Hi, I'm french and arrive there soon for 3 weeks. Info about how to get a visa is very low: the french gov and Mada embassy websites don't say same things. Is it true that you can go there only with your passeport, and get a 1 month tourist visa at your arrival, at Tana airport? What anout e-visa? Are they legit, as there are dozens of different websites proclaming they are only the real one!. I can't call the embassy today, as it is a holiday for Mada people. Can you please enlight this? Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]You're French? Why do you ask? Forget all these "EVisa" websites. Take a flight. Land. And get visa on arrival for 1 or 2 months. Pay euro cash. Make sure you have the exact amount ready. No US Dollars. The 3rd month you can extend also. After 3 months you have to leave that beautiful island.

La Buse.

[QUOTE=LuckyMen;2802156]LOL thanks for the info, same old wine in a new bottle. Curious about the new restaurant, will depart in one month.[/QUOTE]Not enough traffic through this airport to support any kind of business really. The shops have gone unrented and likely most of them to stay that way. But you can go into the lounge now where it's pretty nice and there's food. With not enough first class passengers, they let in coach class flyers for a nominal fee. Policy is evolving.

Ornilox, two packages. A then day cure.

Acquirable at " Pharmacie de Tana" next to Restaurant Sakamanga.

And yes, the girl spoke English. Some believe in MMS but not so did the druggist by solide science, do not belief in Malagasy gris gris she said.

A lucky trip is not asking for it al all.

You were lucky then, they didn't let me in to the lounge.

[QUOTE=Golfinho;2802526]Not enough traffic through this airport to support any kind of business really. The shops have gone unrented and likely most of them to stay that way. But you can go into the lounge now where it's pretty nice and there's food. With not enough first class passengers, they let in coach class flyers for a nominal fee. Policy is evolving.[/QUOTE]

You can also pay by your card, they accept cards! I was a bit surprised ha.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2802522]You're French? Why do you ask? Forget all these "EVisa" websites. Take a flight. Land. And get visa on arrival for 1 or 2 months. Pay euro cash. Make sure you have the exact amount ready. No US Dollars. The 3rd month you can extend also. After 3 months you have to leave that beautiful island.

La Buse.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kako123;2802607]You can also pay by your card, they accept cards! I was a bit surprised ha.[/QUOTE]Thanks my friends for this precious info! I know I should RTFF, but I was puzzled by the lack of official info about this visa on arrival. Anybody has a link to something official about it?

Anyway, I'll go there for 3 weeks in April-May, and as usual, I'll report. As I always did in Thailand, RepDom, Brazil, or Cuba. I'll go to Tana, then NosyBe.

20 K ST, 40 K LT max. Lesson learned.

[QUOTE=NamasteParis;2802618]Thanks my friends for this precious info! I know I should RTFF, but I was puzzled by the lack of official info about this visa on arrival. Anybody has a link to something official about it?

Anyway, I'll go there for 3 weeks in April-May, and as usual, I'll report. As I always did in Thailand, RepDom, Brazil, or Cuba. I'll go to Tana, then NosyBe.

20 K ST, 40 K LT max. Lesson learned.[/QUOTE]I very doubt with this price range you will get best lookers in tana and nosybe. Some street dogs or glacier ugliest maybe yeah but nothing more. Your price range can work in small towns but not in tana and nosybe for best looking girls. Increase at least 50 percent your price range maybe you have more luck when.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2802522]And get visa on arrival for 1 or 2 months. Pay euro cash. Make sure you have the exact amount ready. No US Dollars. The 3rd month you can extend also.
[/QUOTE]What are you talking about now? USA Dollars are accepted for visa.

As others have said, you don't need to read up on regulations about visas. If you only need 3 weeks, just go. No hassles upon arrival except of course the long wait for all the immigration bullshit to be over. I may be wrong but I am not sure about no USD for visas. I cannot recall for certain but I am pretty sure I used USD for the VOA and it was not an issue. Having the correct amount does help.

As for your 20/40 rule. Most of the time yeah, but I wouldn't use it as an absolute. Would you tell a gorgeous girl to take a hike for 2 euros? I applaud your desire to keep prices and expectations down but don't use 20/40 as a hard and fast rule. A ladies drink in Pattaya or AC is as much or more than a ST in Mada, and you don't need to buy them there!

Have fun and let us know how you make out.

It is not always 20 K ST and 40 K LT. Could be much higher in Tana or Nosy Be. But certainly you will get many girls with these prices.

[QUOTE=NamasteParis;2802618]Thanks my friends for this precious info! I know I should RTFF, but I was puzzled by the lack of official info about this visa on arrival. Anybody has a link to something official about it?

Anyway, I'll go there for 3 weeks in April-May, and as usual, I'll report. As I always did in Thailand, RepDom, Brazil, or Cuba. I'll go to Tana, then NosyBe.

20 K ST, 40 K LT max. Lesson learned.[/QUOTE]

Hi I hesitate between Tripolitsa and Hotel des Artistes. Both look good, and were confirmed by our master Pokeris hahaha.

Any thoughts, very good or bad experiences on these 2 hotels? I'll stay 6 days in Tana, so maybe 3 nights each?

Thanks for the hints about prices. I can adapt of course, but don't want to spoil the market...

[QUOTE=NamasteParis;2802851]Hi I hesitate between Tripolitsa and Hotel des Artistes. Both look good, and were confirmed by our master Pokeris hahaha.

Any thoughts, very good or bad experiences on these 2 hotels? I'll stay 6 days in Tana, so maybe 3 nights each?

Thanks for the hints about prices. I can adapt of course, but don't want to spoil the market...[/QUOTE]You have other hotels at tana cheaper and girlfriendly in the same area. I tested shanghai (have a nice restaurant and bath tub), LE relais Normand (big room next to the big market where you can find enjoy! Sole (many freelancers waiting for you just outside the hotel).

For prices and location just look on [URL]Booking.com[/URL].

Of course the two that you mention are a little nearer from " cabaret LE glacier."

Enjoy!

Tripolitsa asks for 70 K for the transfer from the airport. Is it a correct price for a hassle free solution, or is it a total rip off? IF so, what are the hassle free solutions?

[QUOTE=NamasteParis;2802851]Hi I hesitate between Tripolitsa and Hotel des Artistes. Both look good, and were confirmed by our master Pokeris hahah
Any thoughts, very good or bad experiences on these 2 hotels?.[/QUOTE]Those two are hotels for low end people or no money masters.

Artiste is for restaurant only. Hotel is for old French pensioners who like it dark and dingy. Tripolitsa was ok when it was new several years' ago; it's wearing out fast.

Recommendation: Samsara, and note cash rate in person cheaper than on line.

Cheap Choices: Downtown Hotel (has gym). Hotel Pousse-Pousse.

[QUOTE=NamasteParis;2802873]Tripolitsa asks for 70 K for the transfer from the airport. Is it a correct price for a hassle free solution, or is it a total rip off? IF so, what are the hassle free solutions?[/QUOTE]Yes it is correct for hassle free as you said.

Small increase as In 2022 I paid 60 k but we can't complain as we have more than 20% of inflation in 2 years in France on some goods.

Profites!

Its always no problem to pay more obviously. Lets not forget its definitely possible for lower than 20 k / 40 k st / LT in tana as I did it many times. Am pretty sure in nb as well.

Arguably streetdogs but sweet single mums in my book.

[QUOTE=LoveEastAsia;2802896]Yes it is correct for hassle free as you said.

Small increase as In 2022 I paid 60 k but we can't complain as we have more than 20% of inflation in 2 years in France on some goods.

Profites![/QUOTE]Thanks LEA!

Also arriving at Nosy Be, hotel asks for 80 K for airport transfer. Still OK?

[QUOTE=Golfinho;2802877]Those two are hotels for low end people or no money masters.

Artiste is for restaurant only. Hotel is for old French pensioners who like it dark and dingy. Tripolitsa was ok when it was new several years' ago; it's wearing out fast.

Recommendation: Samsara, and note cash rate in person cheaper than on line.

Cheap Choices: Downtown Hotel (has gym). Hotel Pousse-Pousse.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the hint! I'll try when returning from NosyBe.

[QUOTE=NamasteParis;2802873]Tripolitsa asks for 70 K for the transfer from the airport. Is it a correct price for a hassle free solution, or is it a total rip off? IF so, what are the hassle free solutions?[/QUOTE]Seems you don't want read forum if asking this questions. Here was mentioned many times oficial taxi rate is 70 k from airport to city centre its hassle free. If you want save 20 k walk 100 metres and you can get taxi for.

For 40- 50 k. It was mentioned many times just read forum.

Hi, I am planning my trip and was wondering.

1. Where to buy cheap, do at home, HIV test in Tana / Noise bay? Or am I better off bringing from home country?

Alternative, where to go for cheap, fast HIV test in Tana?

2. People who go on Prep: any side effects? Where do you get it? How much it cost? How long can you use it for?

3. With regards to money safety, would a backpack with a chain and a lock be a good option? (backpack chained to the bed or other furniture).

Thanks,

Since the topic is being discussed I decided to do a bit of a search of the area and came upon a place called Hotel Pietra. It has some very good recent reviews but I do not recall ever seeing the place walking by. Very near the New Select (whatever happened to that place? Judging by the photos I suspect I am too much of a cheap charlie to stay there! They do not appear to be on any of the booking sites. Anyone stayed and have some idea of price?

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2802954]Seems you don't want read forum if asking this questions. Here was mentioned many times oficial taxi rate is 70 k from airport to city centre its hassle free. If you want save 20 k walk 100 metres and you can get taxi for.

For 40- 50 k. It was mentioned many times just read forum.[/QUOTE]I did RTFF 88 pages back. Problem with this forum is that 'standard' up-to-date prices are not centralized in one place. Even in 6 months then can change a lot, for whatever reasons.

[QUOTE=NamasteParis;2803158]I did RTFF 88 pages back. Problem with this forum is that 'standard' up-to-date prices are not centralized in one place. Even in 6 months then can change a lot, for whatever reasons.[/QUOTE]Since you can get full service performed for a lunch for the girl for instant. Up to your skill and motivation and liking and preferences.

Hey, am visiting Tana in the next few days. Any recommendations and numbers available for good young girls that can come to my hotel room? Guidance will be appreciated!

1. : Forget it. You can't find a hiv test kit in pharmacy in Madagascar. Bring a lot from home. There are many clinics in Tana, no problem.

2. : Read infos from google, don't ask this question here.)

3. : Yes if the backpack is strong enough.

[QUOTE=DanielDuran;2803004]Hi, I am planning my trip and was wondering.

1. Where to buy cheap, do at home, HIV test in Tana / Noise bay? Or am I better off bringing from home country?

Alternative, where to go for cheap, fast HIV test in Tana?

2. People who go on Prep: any side effects? Where do you get it? How much it cost? How long can you use it for?

3. With regards to money safety, would a backpack with a chain and a lock be a good option? (backpack chained to the bed or other furniture).

Thanks,[/QUOTE]

It was still closed in last December. It is probably still closed?

[QUOTE=SouthEaster;2803156]Since the topic is being discussed I decided to do a bit of a search of the area and came upon a place called Hotel Pietra. It has some very good recent reviews but I do not recall ever seeing the place walking by. Very near the New Select (whatever happened to that place? Judging by the photos I suspect I am too much of a cheap charlie to stay there! They do not appear to be on any of the booking sites. Anyone stayed and have some idea of price?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SexGuy2799;2803192]Hey, am visiting Tana in the next few days. Any recommendations and numbers available for good young girls that can come to my hotel room? Guidance will be appreciated![/QUOTE]Most Indians stay at Central Hotel. Start there.

[QUOTE=SouthEaster;2803156]Since the topic is being discussed I decided to do a bit of a search of the area and came upon a place called Hotel Pietra. It has some very good recent reviews but I do not recall ever seeing the place walking by. Very near the New Select (whatever happened to that place? Judging by the photos I suspect I am too much of a cheap charlie to stay there! They do not appear to be on any of the booking sites. Anyone stayed and have some idea of price?[/QUOTE]Seems you need carry your glasses with you if you not see this hotel its just opposite glacier on the top of pizza gastronome. Its not cheap hotel I went once here ask about room prices but the reception person told me all rooms is full as they have some conference meeting here. She told me they have just suite premium left for 320 k ariary per night. I don't know other room prices but I guess they will be at least 200 k and up.

[QUOTE=DanielDuran;2803004]
3. With regards to money safety, would a backpack with a chain and a lock be a good option? (backpack chained to the bed or other furniture).

Thanks,[/QUOTE]That's not practical and does not make any sense at all. That is a invitation, a obvious indication that in that backpack must bee something of value. LOL. What does the room made thinking of you?

Passport, ID, Money carte on your body, a copy in your room.

Upper class hotels are more likely to bee safe. Large camera can bee stored on a dusty wardrobe or even better, leave it at home if you constant fear the loss of it.

Travel simpel to the minimum equipped or think about your destination.

HIV tests, just think about the cost of it. How many girls will you test? How about if a girl asks you to test your self in front of her? LOL. Besides she can bee positiv and virulent since a short period and the test will bee negativ.

Prep, the risk of gonorrhea and syphilis is still there.

Official numbers suggest suggest that HIV cases are very low, but that's a confirmed joke. Just talk about the subject with some locals.

How about the old condom? And if you very scared even wear it for a BJ.

Malaria, the cure medicine needs to bee in your medical cit. Seldom used the net over the bed, besides most locals can not afford it.

Again, sorry if will you constant live in fear. Think about it, is it worth it?

Will be travelling to Ile Sainte Marie next month, can anyone recommend a nice beachfront hotel?

Yes if you chain it in a visible way that might create attention for it.

Large camera can bee stored on a dusty wardrobe? Why wouldn't you put in your locked bag? Or in a safe??

[QUOTE=Tinte;2803466]That's not practical and does not make any sense at all. That is a invitation, a obvious indication that in that backpack must bee something of value. LOL. What does the room made thinking of you?

Passport, ID, Money carte on your body, a copy in your room.

Upper class hotels are more likely to bee safe. Large camera can bee stored on a dusty wardrobe or even better, leave it at home if you constant fear the loss of it.

Travel simpel to the minimum equipped or think about your destination.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kako123;2803641]Yes if you chain it in a visible way that might create attension for it.

Large camera can bee stored on a dusty wardrobe?? Why wouldn't you put in your locked bag? Or in a safe??[/QUOTE]Hotel Safe, I came across of only one reliabel looking safe. Even then, if the camera in there would bee gone how do you suggest to go on? LOL! On top, they might beat you up for accusing them of stealing.

The staff always keeps a secret basic code, by the way for those wich forget on's own birthday date.

[QUOTE=NamasteParis;2803789]Do you mean I should not report my trip here too? This forum becomes nasty and discouraging...[/QUOTE]This forum is the perfect training ground, do not give up. If you make it her you will make it there. LOL!

Breakfast is provided by hotels, but in case I want to change, does anybody know where we can take a good and healthy breakfast for few eur / usd?

Please probide ideas for TANA (near Glacier) and NOSY BE (near Ambatoloaka).

Ideally, where we could meet girls. But I know I'm asking too much LOL.

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=NamasteParis;2804848]Breakfast is provided by hotels, but in case I want to change, does anybody know where we can take a good and healthy breakfast for few eur / usd?

Please probide ideas for TANA (near Glacier) and NOSY BE (near Ambatoloaka).

Ideally, where we could meet girls. But I know I'm asking too much LOL.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Good and healthy breakfast: the only girl you would meet in such a place is the waitress when last time I was in Tana I was having breakfast at a hotel on place de l indépendance where they had a buffet all you can eat for something like 8 euros do not remember the name but I would recommend chez l artiste near glacier excellent restaurant and hotel but they just have a few room around a dozen and most of the time booked.

Not all hotels provides breakfast. You can have breakfast in glacier. There are many options in Ambatoloaka. You will see when you walk there.

[QUOTE=NamasteParis;2804848]Breakfast is provided by hotels, but in case I want to change, does anybody know where we can take a good and healthy breakfast for few eur / usd?

Please probide ideas for TANA (near Glacier) and NOSY BE (near Ambatoloaka).

Ideally, where we could meet girls. But I know I'm asking too much LOL.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]

Good an healthy for a few Dollars / Eros?

Food is in Mada in general compared to pussy relativ expensiv and not very healthy. Good and healthy means in Mada, it does not make you sick in the second place and first it makes you full.

For 20 K you get a Breakfast, that's often not what I call a breakfast and that's a few Dollars to me.

Colbert, LE Loufre etc. May do offer what you looking for but not for what I call a few Dollars.

In general you may find not what you here asking for in Mada? I am so sorry.

[QUOTE=NamasteParis;2804848]Breakfast is provided by hotels, but in case I want to change, does anybody know where we can take a good and healthy breakfast for few eur / usd?

Please probide ideas for TANA (near Glacier) and NOSY BE (near .[/QUOTE]Next door to LE Glacier is Papa Mofo -- patisserie boulongerie, proper coffee -- for breakfast and lunch. French patron. And you can meet all the other old French expats who are there everyday. Some have their girls with them so you get idea what you can find.

The long walk in the morning to it.

[QUOTE=Golfinho;2805103]Next door to LE Glacier is Papa Mofo -- patisserie boulongerie, proper coffee -- for breakfast and lunch. French patron. And you can meet all the other old French expats who are there everyday. Some have their girls with them so you get idea what you can find.[/QUOTE]Thnaks all for your insight.

Anybody interested to get my euros against ari? I arrive at Tana tomorrow Saturday. If interested, please MP me.

Interested were the street money-changer. Perhaps you try them out.

Thnaks all for your insight.

But be careful, I guess that's asking for trouble.

Am in Tana for the next 3 days, anyone free to catch up? Maybe monger some young ones together? Staying in town.

In Tana right now. Heading towards Manson. May be it's a little early. Outside it's chilly.

Why would anyone ask this here? I wouldn't advise to change any big amount of money with them. Maybe 10, 20, 50 euro ok? I would not do it for any large amount.

[QUOTE=Tinte;2805685]Interested were the street money-changer. Perhaps you try them out.

Thnaks all for your insight.

But be careful, I guess that's asking for trouble.[/QUOTE]

There is an exchange office in second floor of Glaciers. You may try that one. Not sure but some banks might give a bit better rate if you are willing to wait 1 hour queue! Don't bring 10,20 euro bills. Just 50 or 100 euro bills. Rate is worse for smaller bills!.

[QUOTE=NamasteParis;2805406]Thnaks all for your insight.

Anybody interested to get my euros against ari? I arrive at Tana tomorrow Saturday. If interested, please MP me.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kako123;2805846]There is an exchange office in second floor of Glaciers. You may try that one. Not sure but some banks might give a bit better rate if you are willing to wait 1 hour queue! Don't bring 10,20 euro bills. Just 50 or 100 euro bills. Rate is worse for smaller bills!.[/QUOTE]Arriving on a weekend? Change at airport enough until Monday. Or change at place across the road from domestic terminal. Other times: Socimad (where it takes a couple minutes).

[QUOTE=Kako123;2805845]Why would anyone ask this here?? I wouldn't advise to change any big amount of money with them. Maybe 10,20, 50 euro ok? I would not do it for any large amount.[/QUOTE]I think it is basically just about that you show them your wallet and what you have in it. Perhaps you get a good rate? But the sledgehammer is about to follow in various ways: LOL.

Around hot spots you will get often asked, offered. So at least in one way it works, but I doubt in two ways.

In fall I was in Ambatoloaka, among other places. I was looking for a cheap hotel and therefore I chose Hotel Ambatoloaka on the internet.

The hotel was simply but modernly furnished. When there wasn't a power outage, the room was brightly lit. That's what I want. A particular highlight was a window through which you could look into the shower area from the bed and watch the girl showering. I liked that! The party area (Taxi Be etc.) was within walking distance from the hotel. You could also walk the few hundred meters without worrying about your own safety. This is worth mentioning in Madagascar!

I found the service to be problematic: although the room was supposed to be cleaned every day, it didn't happen. Also a repeated request at the front desk was not successful. This was particularly annoying because I definitely needed fresh, dry towels. Especially for my female guests.

Breakfast (which would have cost extra anyway) I didn't try in the hotel. I preferred to walk a few meters downhill and have either dined with a view of the sea.

Taking girls to the room didn't cause any problems as long as they could prove their age based on their ID.

A negative point was the location: the hotel is not located to the beach. The little walk to the beach in swimwear was too far for me, and I didn't want to leave my clothes somewhere on the beach because I saw the danger of being robbed. So it was difficult to organize to swim (Or does anybody have an idea to organize that without any problems? Next time I will spend a little more and book a hotel right on the beach.

Of the places I've visited in Ambatoloaka, I'd like to highlight Restaurant Zeburger: Great atmosphere, excellent location, right across from Taxi Be. I think back to the food with mixed feelings: on the one hand it looked very tasty, the portions were large. On the other hand, the big crabs weren't done well, which meant that I had to vomit for a few days.

As a friend of the shisha, I. E. The water pipe, I was happy that a shisha was also offered in this restaurant. Of course I ordered a shisha. Unfortunately, I have to say that this was the worst shisha I've ever smoked, both in terms of design and quality of tobacco.

Finally, I have a question for those who know the scene. Because I don't speak French, I've reached my clear limits here. I had the feeling that in this restaurant almost every guest had his personal service. My very pretty waitress took very good care of me. I asked myself: What is the purpose of these girls? Should they only serve? Are they there to keep customers loyal to the restaurant? Could I have asked her to come to the hotel with me? And when would that have been possible: Late in the night, after work?

Just came across a Germann Bankwebsite, credible looking.

2 things got my attention.

The " export " of ariary bils is limited to the maximum of 400 K. I was just below. LOL.

Money-changer need a licence, authorization. Next to the mentioned obstacles in the Street, they can act just as a bite.

Perhaps some " senior " can clarify the subject.

[QUOTE=Tanatos2000;2806009]

Finally, I have a question for those who know the scene. Because I don't speak French, I've reached my clear limits here. I had the feeling that in this restaurant almost every guest had his personal service. My very pretty waitress took very good care of me. I asked myself: What is the purpose of these girls? Should they only serve? Are they there to keep customers loyal to the restaurant? Could I have asked her to come to the hotel with me? And when would that have been possible: Late in the night, after work?[/QUOTE]The purpose of this girls at restaurants is serve costumers like in all normal resraurants around a world. But most of them gladly accept your offer to visit your hotel on their free time like after work, before they start work or on their days off from work. The salaries at most nosybe restaurants for waitress is between 200000-250000 ariary per month max and they usually work 6 days per week so they always need some extra money for surviving or take care of their families. Yes you should ask them for phone number or facebook contacts or ask to come to your hotel. Waitress is always on my list as they are not so hard pro and more sweet compare with disco girls I fucke. The many of them at mada and never get refuse yet for contact.

At Pokeris.

Thank you very much for this fast answer.

I had asked "my" waitress at the Zeburger Restaurant for her day off, but unfortunately I was only for a handful of days in Nosy Be, so that it didn't fit to her day off. So I didn't ask her. But next time I will focus on that, because some of the waitresses were really cuties!

But it surely will take some years until I return to Nosy Be, because there are so many regions of Madagascar I'd like to visit before returning tot his beautiful island!

Here I have a little question: I've visited Madagascar for one month, and I was f. E. in Tulear, Tana, Fianar and Mahajunga. But in no other restaurant I saw that exactly one pretty girl takes care of only one customer like in the Zeburger Restaurant in Nosy Be.

Dear Pokeris, you write that there are.

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2806256]many of them at mada[/QUOTE]What do you want to say with that:

(a) that you normally try to get the phone number all of the waitresses, in every Restaurant, if you like her? Or.

(b) that there are other Restaurant in Madagascar, that have a numerical proportion guest: waitress like in the Zeburger Restaurant? And which Restaurants in Madagascar have such a policy? I would be interested in visiting these Restaurants, too!

Any girls who do respond are interested in more the just that. If a girl does not respond she is in solid hands or just not interested in sex and cash fore some reason at the moment. They stay just cool or dismissive and that's it. Rarely observed. LOL.

Key again is basic French.

[QUOTE=Tinte;2806106]Just came across a Germann Bankwebsite, credible looking.

2 things got my attention.

The " export " of ariary bils is limited to the maximum of 400 K. I was just below. LOL.

Money-changer need a licence, authorization. Next to the mentioned obstacles in the Street, they can act just as a bite.

Perhaps some " senior " can clarify the subject.[/QUOTE]All true. Save receipts provided by licensed moneychanger. You never know.

[QUOTE=Tanatos2000;2806297]At Pokeris.


What do you want to say with that:

(a) that you normally try to get the phone number all of the waitresses, in every Restaurant, if you like her? Or.

(b) that there are other Restaurant in Madagascar, that have a numerical proportion guest: waitress like in the Zeburger Restaurant? And which Restaurants in Madagascar have such a policy? I would be interested in visiting these Restaurants, too![/QUOTE]Tanatos: you sound like a little schoolboy looking at a basket full of chocolate but daring to grab one. Seems you are never dating girls back in your laidback province?

Get used to local habits. Shisha is not Mada! Get a glass of local rum instead. Ask a girl who smiles at you, be it a waitress or a passer by walking the roads, for her number and use GoogelTranslate to text her: she will sure joining you shortly later in your room.

Restaurants want to sell their food, nothing else.

Girls want to sell their chattes to vahaza's.

Haha let me ask a silly question. Is there anyone in the forum who fucked more then 5 girls in Madagascar in 24 hours?

I would like to know if someone in this forum already try or use ENZOY?

As for me I try it andit is effective.

[QUOTE=Kako123;2807756]Haha let me ask a silly question. Is there anyone in the forum who fucked more then 5 girls in Madagascar in 24 hours?[/QUOTE]" There is no silly questions, just silly answers. ".

I am not sure if this applies also to your question since you quote it a silly question your self.

First of all, who told you that he has fucked 5 girls in a day? I did not. Or do you want to say in other words you did so?

However, I guess that shows that you perhaps watch to many porn movies, where your fantasies likely coming from.

Key note is the same like the money change in the streets, it is possible on the girls side but there are many obstacles on the path. As a Lemourtourist you can draw several Sketchs but the real snares are just known to the residents.

It is all about risk management, to make it a joyfully experience you need much luck or just the fundamental knowledge in wich you lacking at the moment.

Good luck!

I am sure there are some people who did this in this from. I did 6 girls in a day but not in Madagascar.

[QUOTE=Tinte;2808327]" There is no silly questions, just silly answers. ".

I am not sure if this applies also to your question since you quote it a silly question your self.

First of all, who told you that he has fucked 5 girls in a day? I did not. Or do you want to say in other words you did so?

However, I guess that shows that you perhaps watch to many porn movies, where your fantasies likely coming from.

Key note is the same like the money change in the streets, it is possible on the girls side but there are many obstacles on the path. As a Lemourtourist you can draw several Sketchs but the real snares are just known to the residents.

It is all about risk management, to make it a joyfully experience you need much luck or just the fundamental knowledge in wich you lacking at the moment.

Good luck![/QUOTE]

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[QUOTE=Kako123;2808586]I am sure there are some people who did this in this from. I did 6 girls in a day but not in Madagascar.).[/QUOTE]As a younger man in Mombasa, I always took two girls, because it was so cheap, so why not. One day, I had session in morning time, in afternoon and later at night. So I had six girls. But I don't think that can be really counted, last session I was already quite weak. And I don't say that I had six ejaculations.

I remember in Dubai, one American guy was famous for taking often in the afternoon many Chinese girls with him, he had 7, 8, 9 of them. No idea what he did with them, but ladies told me that he did something with each of them. One minute with one lady before changing? That was in Panorama hotel, when it was still mongering place, many years ago.

Foursome two time in 24 hours, meaning you and three two times? Maybe somebody can do it.

I did it in FKK club in Germany. They need to make such a place in Madagascar haha!

That would bee a down step to the sexual wasteland and slum area of Germany with its mentality. No I do not think we need that so see in Paradise Madagaskar. Madagaskar is unique and should stay just like that, for those ho can appreciate.

[QUOTE=Kako123;2808930]I did it in FKK club in Germany. They need to make such a place in Madagascar haha![/QUOTE]You have no clue how Malgache girls tick. Stay better in the "Fatherland" please.

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[QUOTE=Kako123;2809704]I was just being sarcastic![/QUOTE]Sarcastic, Ironie, hidden Joke etc. That's why people like you produce a lot of misunderstandings. I tried to assist you, but like that it is a waste of time and effort.

[QUOTE=Kako123;2809704]I was just being sarcastic![/QUOTE]The French can be sensitive to talk of German takeovers.

I had to go back to posts from 10-15 years ago to see photos of beautiful Malagasy girls. These were the stuffs that had inspired me to one day visit Madagascar, when I retired.

What happens to all the beautiful photos? I am sure frequent seniors still take photos and videos during their trips.

[QUOTE=TopGun9;2809868]I had to go back to posts from 10-15 years ago to see photos of beautiful Malagasy girls. These were the stuffs that had inspired me to one day visit Madagascar, when I retired.

What happens to all the beautiful photos? I am sure frequent seniors still take photos and videos during their trips.[/QUOTE]Yes, I did make photos of some girls from wich I assumed they would not bother. And yes they did not bother and performed like proud actresses, but that's not beautiful, just hot. LOL. At LE Glacier I would assume for enough cash they all posse. But no faces. Somme sweet girls I just could not ask about it, since I felt my self kind of ignorant to do so.

Anyway, I deleted them all, since I did not take the risk crossing the border with it on my camera and I was never in the Forum wile I was in Mada.

But times are perhaps changing even in Mada too. There is a Pirate museum in Tana, were Pirates with theirs attitude of the past belong too.

Some posts of the past gave the Impression of it. The girls in Mada are kind of naive dump silly things waiting to get used by money tight vahazas. Guided by this given Impressions a newbie can easy end up in expensiv trouble. The today reality is far more complex.

Some days ago I came across a malgache article about sexual harassment in Taxi Brousse. Drivers are now advised to keep a eye on it and report offenders to the police.

It might bee the buccaneer of the past siting no in a cell or spending his last pension money for release.

[QUOTE=TopGun9;2809868]I had to go back to posts from 10-15 years ago to see photos of beautiful Malagasy girls. These were the stuffs that had inspired me to one day visit Madagascar, when I retired.

What happens to all the beautiful photos? I am sure frequent seniors still take photos and videos during their trips.[/QUOTE]Just not smart persons sharing photos with girls faces on sexforums or somewhere else on internet. If girls allowed make photos you should be respectfull and not share on internet of her face where someone can recognise her and show to her family and so on. Also sharing nude photos with faces can land you into trouble! Discreet photos without face is sounds fine as long nobody can recognise the girl!! . Why someone should ruin the girls life or just risk himself get into trouble to satisfied some trolls and dream travellers on this forum? If you want beautiful malagashy girls photos go on google and search for it!

[QUOTE=TopGun9;2809868]I had to go back to posts from 10-15 years ago to see photos of beautiful Malagasy girls. These were the stuffs that had inspired me to one day visit Madagascar, when I retired.

What happens to all the beautiful photos? I am sure frequent seniors still take photos and videos during their trips.[/QUOTE]If you want to retire in Mada or even in your home country, you need to go to that destination and start your planning now.

It's people new to travel who take pictures. Frequent travelers hardly break out their cameras. Nothing seems special anymore.

Nothing special anymore. Hmm maybe true.

[QUOTE=Slowalk;2810764]If you want to retire in Mada or even in your home country, you need to go to that destination and start your planning now.

It's people new to travel who take pictures. Frequent travelers hardly break out their cameras. Nothing seems special anymore.[/QUOTE]

Back from 3 weeks in Mada, and as promised, a report.

1 week in Tana, 2 weeks in Nosy Be.
Precautions: like in Brazil, no jewelry, no watch, no display of wealth, no camera, no iphone 14 in the street, in short, get low profile. Especially in Tana.

Tana:
Airport transfer: 70.000. Frankly, no interest. Dirty, polluted, trafic jams, gangs of kids aged 3 to 10 who beg day and night, and above all. Nothing to do during the day. Not even a nice place or a nice terrace to sip a drink. Nice 'Muse de la photo' in town and beautiful lemur park 1 hour away.
The only interest of Tana: nightlife.
Best places:
Glacier (dark and rather low end: 5-6/10 on average).
Taxi Be (hundreds of girls of all kinds, of all colors, pros, semi-pros, normal girls who come for fun in group or with the family. 5 to 9/10).
Manson (rather chic, lots of pros, good atmosphere with Marco, good sound 7 to 9/10).
Red (good old school hip hop funk sound) .

It is essential to take a taxi at night, even for 100 meters. Taxi: 5,000 to 10,000 during the day, 15,000 at night for journeys within the city.
A very serious taxi at the right price and always punctual: SOLOFO 034 04 132 32. It also does airport transfers.
A good hotel: the Pousse Pousse. Very nice room with safe, nice bathroom and king size bed for 150,000 (30 eur).
Good restaurants: Sakamanga, Nerone (Italian), LE Buffet du Jardin.

For those who want to buy wild pepper 'poivre sauvage' (the one with a small tail) at the Analakely market, it's 60,000-70,000/ kg max. It must be very black. If it is gray or with whitish spots, it has taken on moisture and is moldy.
For honey, it is better to buy glass jars at the leading price or super you, and avoid any plastic bottle filled by hand: the honey is systematically cut.
For vanilla, the subject is too long to be developed here. Be aware, however, that the vanilla sold on the street is of poor quality: small, dry, split and empty pods. An extra * vanilla (and not that of Mexico, that of Mada) coming directly from the producer of Sambava and wrapped in waxed paper costs between 400,000 and 600,000/ kg.

Nosy Be:
A true paradise for French speakers! After having visited fifty countries, Mada is now at the top of the list, ahead of Thailand, RepDom and Brazil!
Airport transfer. Ambatoloaka: 70.000.
Overall cool atmosphere, never felt insecure in 2 weeks. In Ambatoloaka, you can walk without problems even at night. A lot of expats, retired or not, that's a good indicator. Renting a car is strongly recommended (80,000/ day, or 16/ day) for a small new Hundyai. We don't even ask for a driving licence. However, you should know that there is no insurance, so drive very carefully. The condition of the rutted roads limits the speed. I don't think I ever exceeded 60 km / h! With a car, it is easy to walk around the different spots of Nosy Be, without the hassle of the bajaj (tuk tuk). Stay in Ambatoloaka, it is where it all happens. Good hotels at 30/ night: Kokoloko, and Perle Rare. I do not recommend the Benjamin hotel: one night was enough. I haven't slept: rustic straw huts, bad mattress, mosquitoes, music from the bars as if the speakers were in the room, non-existent wifi, in short, the hassle. Kokoloko offers an apartment with two separate king size bedrooms: ideal for 2 travel buddies. For those with a good budget, the must is the Sarimanok. Ambatoloaka is a 'village' with a single main street, lined with bars, restaurants, hotels, beach shops, etc. Festive and 'messy' atmosphere as we like it, from 6 pm. At night, the streets and bars are filled with girls. Average: 7-8/10.

Finish the night at the club 'the djembe'. Walk there from the main street; no feeling of insecurity here.

Good restaurants: batumoch (from the sarimanok hotel) and gargotte 'chez Tantine', where you can choose your fish on the beach around 6 pm For dinner.

To do: spend the day at Andilana beach (eat either on the gargotte side at Vro for authenticity, or on the more select cocoa beach side).
Go to Nosy Iranja and sleep there at Olivia's.
Go to Nosy Sakatia at Alberto's at Danae beach (we pick you up at Shanty beach), and sleep there too.
Go to the sacred waterfall near ambatoloaka (warning: rough road: Bush driving experience is required).
Diving in the tanikelly reserve with Boris from Mada Scuba (opposite the Mamma Mia pizzeria).

Girls:
Gasy girls are generally nice, very GFE, 1 m60-1 m65, slim, very beautiful skin, very beautiful natural hair (wigs are very rare, unlike on the African continent), and funny. No fat, just muscle. Perky and firm asses, with a tiny waist and a muscular back ideal for lovers of doggy style. In general, they all BBBJ, and rather very well.

It's the only country I know where you can have sex with all kinds of girls very naturally and so easily: receptionist, chambermaid, waitress,. A smile, a compliment, a phone number, an appointment and that's it.

Rate: 50,000 - 60,000 for the night. I didn't do any ST, and besides, it's not usual here. Never negotiated before, and always given based on attitude. Never had a problem with the price. Some ask more for the taxi, so I give 5,000 or 10,000. For the few 'normal' girls kept for several days, I never gave any money as such, but of course I take care of them (restaurants, excursions, a bathing suit or a sarong.). Some massage very well, with ylang ylang oil (5000 a small bottle), and kindly offer it to you before sleeping. Or sucking: then you are the king of the world!

Next time, I will go straight to Nosy Be, and avoid the totally useless Tana stage.
Cost of living for a 'tourist' on site who enjoys life very well: 100 eur/ day. All inclusive: good hotels, good restaurants, taxis, great excursions, a girl every night, extras. In short, everything! The quality / price ratio in this country is totally unbeatable.
The only constraint: the total absence of serious medical infrastructure. In the event of a problem, you will be evacuated to french Reunion island. It is therefore necessary to be in good health and to take care of oneself. Plan a substantial medicine kit.
The food in Nosy Be is excellent: just the catch of the day: grilled fish, camarones, prawns, crabs, lobster, . Well prepared in general. In Nosy Be, I don't think I've ever exceeded 10 for a meal, the average being 5-6 for a very good dish-dessert at the restaurant. Full breakfasts with omelette costs between 12,000 and 15,000, that's around 2-3.

There are ATM everywhere. I recommend those of BMOI because without commission per withdrawal, and withdrawal up to 1,200,000 AR. When we know that the largest bill is 20,000 (about 4), a bundle of 60 bills comes out; you must have big pockets!
The only ATM who asked me for a commission of 8000 per withdrawal are those of the Societe Generale.

In general, always ask for the price in AR and pay in AR. Otherwise they will convert the euro with a shit*why rate, like 4300 while the current rate is 4850.

Especially nice to read that you scored with good manners and French skills also receptionist, chambermaid, waitress. Brings back fond memories.

[QUOTE=NamasteParis;2813601]Back from 3 weeks in Mada, and as promised, a report.

1 week in Tana, 2 weeks in Nosy Be.
Precautions: like in Brazil, no jewelry, no watch, no display of wealth, no camera, no iphone 14 in the street, in short, get low profile. Especially in Tana.[/QUOTE]Thanks for you nice report seems you have good time and done quiet well! Some members from here should learn reporting from you! I just don't agree about chez tantine restaurant as I have light food poisoning from this place and my friend has poisoning here before also! I preferred more to eat at gargotte chez papa bebeto very similar to chez tantnine food was arriving quickly big portions and cheap between 15-25 k per dish. But I liked chez tantine for one cute waitress who works here young 20 years old, slim without kids great attitude and fucks great I even repeat her few times (which I not do often) she was always happy with my 30 k pay for her for few hours spend with me as her salary from restaurant was 200 k per month. But after few visits she becomes to much comfortable and decide to visit my bungalow without invitation as I ignore her messages for few days. As she comes I was waiting another girl and it pissed me off she come without invitation so I told her to leave and blocked her on facebook. I agree with you glacier girls is low quality its getting hard to find something fuckable here every year quality getting worst and worse. Mansoon its hit and miss most of the times also but a bit better than glacier! Taxibe was my favourite spot to find a girl I like from hundred girls it was at least 1 or two I liked. Taxis at night is possible like examples:5 k for short distance like glacier to mansoon or 8-10 k from mansoon to taxibe but you need to speak with a 1-2 different drivers till they accept this price. The drivers standing near discos is always rip off better to walk few meters away or catch moving taxi instead.

[URL]https://lexpress.mg/13/05/2023/transport-ferroviaire-les-voyages-en-train-moramanga-toamasina-seduisent/[/URL]

Inspiring seasoning news for the upcoming visit.

[QUOTE=Tinte;2817260][URL]https://lexpress.mg/13/05/2023/transport-ferroviaire-les-voyages-en-train-moramanga-toamasina-seduisent/[/URL]

Inspiring seasoning news for the upcoming visit.[/QUOTE]For that, you still have to get to Moramanga. Any idea how the Chinese are progressing on the roadwork? The bottleneck leaving Tana in direction of Moramanga has been eliminated with a new dual carriage expressway. It'll take years if not decades if ever to complete it all the way to Tamatave though.

I guess, I have been there twice already, passed it on the RN2 - LOL. On my way to Toasamina.

This time it will likely to happen, I will stay there for one or two nights. The Bezanozano Hotel Moramanga looks very promissing.

[QUOTE=Tinte;2817480]I guess, I have been there twice already, passed it on the RN2 - LOL. On my way to Toasamina.

This time it will likely to happen, I will stay there for one or two nights. The Bezanozano Hotel Moramanga looks very promissing.[/QUOTE]23 stops on that train route. Better bring your lunch. And dinner.

[QUOTE=Golfinho;2817526]23 stops on that train route. Better bring your lunch. And dinner.[/QUOTE]In the end, yes it was torture. But the stops and the food was excellent. Boiled "ecrevisse" where the highlights next to the usual street food. All I take with me is clean water. I remember one girl in first class resident which always made eye contact with me when I was leaning out the window. At a stop late at night there werde some girls and boys playing with each other in a group in the dark. This time certain I would try to participate. LOL.

Anyone has experience with Transformable visa?

Specifically from USA and for Retiree kind??

Can you share about how easy or bureaucratic it really is from the MADA embassy in Washington DC?

Msota.

Hello,

I would like to come in Madagascar.

I'am 30 years old belgian and speak french (maybe more easy in mada?

I have somes questions:

-Where to stay in Nosy Be for the nightlife, food. ?

-Recommendation hotel?

-How to find girl? (Tinder works? What bar? Nightclub?

-Where is the best nightlife in nosy be?

-How much cost a girl?

-The wifi / 4 G is good? How much cost a 4 G card?

-Easy to rent motorbike?

Thank you.

[QUOTE=MxTH9;2819240]Hello,

I would like to come in Madagascar.

I'am 30 years old belgian and speak french (maybe more easy in mada?

I have somes questions:

-Where to stay in Nosy Be for the nightlife, food. ?

-Recommendation hotel?

-How to find girl? (Tinder works? What bar? Nightclub?

-Where is the best nightlife in nosy be?

-How much cost a girl?

-The wifi / 4 G is good? How much cost a 4 G card?

-Easy to rent motorbike?

Thank you.[/QUOTE]To rent a motorcycle no problem a few place will rent you scooter or 125 CC China or Indian made and do not plan a trip too far they are not reliable mechanic unless new, for the rest of your question RTFF it will answer all of it.

[QUOTE=BrasilSoccer0;2819175]Anyone has experience with Transformable visa?

Specifically from USA and for Retiree kind??

Can you share about how easy or bureaucratic it really is from the MADA embassy in Washington DC?

Msota.[/QUOTE]It's very easy.

First fly to Madagascar to open a bank account which is mandatory. Then fly back to the US and apply for the Visa transformable. Provided you have the other papers complete like cahier judiciare. You might get it. Then fly back with the transformable in your passport. Then you wait between 1 month and 6 months in Tana for your Visa long sejour Retraite to be approved. Ah and not to forget. Another shitload of paper you need to furnish. If you have good French. If you don't know what you're doing I consider your chance to get one as NIL.

La Buse.

Lawful resident of Isle rouge.

[QUOTE=BrasilSoccer0;2819175]Anyone has experience with Transformable visa?

Specifically from USA and for Retiree kind??

Can you share about how easy or bureaucratic it really is from the MADA embassy in Washington DC?

Msota.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.us-madagascar-embassy.org/visa-consular-services[/URL]

There's a download. But as I said. If you don't have a clear idea what you're doing and do a lot of research. Chance is NIL. And that's what I love about Madagascar. Keeps all the Thai Sex tourists away from the last paradise on earth.

La Buse.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2819344]It's very easy.

First fly to Madagascar to open a bank account which is mandatory. Then fly back to the US and apply for the Visa transformable. Provided you have the other papers complete like cahier judiciare. You might get it. Then fly back with the transformable in your passport. Then you wait between 1 month and 6 months in Tana for your Visa long sejour Retraite to be approved. Ah and not to forget. Another shitload of paper you need to furnish. If you have good French. If you don't know what you're doing I consider your chance to get one as NIL.

La Buse.

Lawful resident of Isle rouge.[/QUOTE]There's no conceivable reason why you need permanent residence there -- unless you cannot afford to fly back and forth to the EU, and this move is your endgame and you're going to be buried on the Isle Rouge. And if that's your plan, it only makes sense if you plan to acquire a fully restored Colonial Estate (or similar) -- in beachfront or highlands -- and live a lifestyle that you cannot afford in your home country.

[QUOTE=MxTH9;2819240]Hello,

I would like to come in Madagascar.

I'am 30 years old belgian and speak french (maybe more easy in mada?

I have somes questions:

-Where to stay in Nosy Be for the nightlife, food. ?

-Recommendation hotel?

-How to find girl? (Tinder works? What bar? Nightclub?

-Where is the best nightlife in nosy be?

-How much cost a girl?

-The wifi / 4 G is good? How much cost a 4 G card?

-Easy to rent motorbike?

Thank you.[/QUOTE]I wrote a full report answering your questions in this same page! Would be great to read few pages back of this forum to avoid asking the same questions that have been answered recently.

[QUOTE=Golfinho;2819375]There's no conceivable reason why you need permanent residence there -- unless you cannot afford to fly back and forth to the EU, and this move is your endgame and you're going to be buried on the Isle Rouge. And if that's your plan, it only makes sense if you plan to acquire a fully restored Colonial Estate (or similar) -- in beachfront or highlands -- and live a lifestyle that you cannot afford in your home country.[/QUOTE]Do I hear a certain amount of jealousy? Don't worry about my funds. I have more pension than a lot of these destitute french men. In fact I met one, who lives here in A Vezo village with about 100 inhabitants. He told me he needs 250€ a month.

La Buse.

Legal resident of Isle Rouge.

Pardon my noobness, but I thought I would float a few questions I had for you seasoned gentlemen.

I should preface this with I speak absolutely ZERO French however I do plan to work on that situation before I get there.

The Master Plan:

My trip and what I plan 1 week in tana and 2 in nosy be. Or just 3 weeks in Nosy be I have not decided on that yet as Tana doesn't look like my kind of scene. Focus is 90% nightlife. One non nightlife related requirement is a room with a kitchen. I found that the price of Langoustines is EXTREEMLY low per kilo maybe 1/20th of the cost in the states if what I saw was true especially on nosy be? So I do plan to cook the hell out of some Langoustines and try a bunch of recipes I have been wanting to cook but cost of these things prohibits such luxury as doing so in the US would set my credit card on fire. And Zebu is essentially grass fed beef which goes for a massive premium in the US, the price for zebu would be astronomical in "whole foods". I want to see if I can cook a few Zebu steaks. Just to pass the time. This is where you all burst my bubble I guess but that's why I posted that to see if this is true.

Question (s):

In the Wikipedia posts it talks about "all inclusive resorts" does this exist? Where they have working girls at the resorts themselves on offer as through reading over the posts I have not come across one yet?

Are there any fish bowl / brothel / incall type places in Nosy be or in Madagascar in general?

Mahajanga seems to be a nicer city than Tana, this is all speculation from my cursory research, Tana doesn't strike me as a very hospitable place. Mahajanga seems to have a vast number of instahoes concentrated here. Mahajanga seem to have a better over all atmosphere. There seem to be much less visible abject poverty in Mahajanga than Tana. Maybe there are other issues I am not taking into considering here?

How would one get to Mahajanga from Nosy be? I haven't been able to find flights to Mahajanga from nosy be?

Do monger un-friendly hotels exist in Madagascar? I ask this because hotel selection seems limited to begin with.

I love the Blasian look how realistic is it to come across these Blasian women are they all mostly "African" looking? I read that the make up is some kind of southeast Asian background but the pictures I've seen on Taxi Be mostly "African" looking women they are attractive however I am specifically interested in the Blasians if on offer. Is it realistic to expect to pull these women or they highly sot after and mostly unavailable?

Are antibiotics & Cialis available to purchase without prescription in nosy be? Can someone recommend a spot to stock up on medications in Nosy be?

Thank you gentlemen in Advance.

[QUOTE=MontanaMonger;2819616]Pardon my noobness, but I thought I would float a few questions I had for you seasoned gentlemen.

I should preface this with I speak absolutely ZERO French however I do plan to work on that situation before I get there.

The Master Plan:

My trip and what I plan 1 week in tana and 2 in nosy be. Or just 3 weeks in Nosy be I have not decided on that yet as Tana doesn't look like my kind of scene. Focus is 90% nightlife. One non nightlife related requirement is a room with a kitchen. I found that the price of Langoustines is EXTREEMLY low per kilo maybe 1/20th of the cost in the states if what I saw was true especially on nosy be? So I do plan to cook the hell out of some Langoustines and try a bunch of recipes I have been wanting to cook but cost of these things prohibits such luxury as doing so in the US would set my credit card on fire. And Zebu is essentially grass fed beef which goes for a massive premium in the US, the price for zebu would be astronomical in "whole foods". I want to see if I can cook a few Zebu steaks. Just to pass the time. This is where you all burst my bubble I guess but that's why I posted that to see if this is true.[/QUOTE]Pheew. Room with a kitchen? For ST rent. Doesn't exist and if so always booked long in advance. Only for french speaking insiders. I know a few places. But they're booked solid and no they're not on Airbnb. Forget it.

There's all inclusive resorts. Forget it.

Mahajanga? There's no flight from Nosy Be to Mahajanga forget it.

What is Blasian? I'm uneducated. If you want African looking women? Go to Africa. This is Madagascar.

Antibiotics and Cialis? Loads of. You can buy as much as you like. In fact I know people who smuggle tons of that stuff back to Europe because it's much cheaper. Hahahah.

La Buse.

Resident of Isle Rouge.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2819562]Do I hear a certain amount of jealousy? Don't worry about my funds. I have more pension than a lot of these destitute french men. In fact I met one, who lives here in A Vezo village with about 100 inhabitants. He told me he needs 250 a month.

La Buse.

Legal resident of Isle Rouge.[/QUOTE]No, you are imagining that, like you imagine everything else about Madagascar. Enjoy what's left of your life there. They have great funerary celebrations. You'll get to attend your own.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2819667]Pheew. Room with a kitchen? For ST rent. Doesn't exist and if so always booked long in advance. Only for french speaking insiders. I know a few places. But they're booked solid and no they're not on Airbnb. Forget it.

What is Blasian? I'm uneducated. If you want African looking women? Go to Africa. This is Madagascar.

Antibiotics and Cialis? Loads of. You can buy as much as you like. In fact I know people who smuggle tons of that stuff back to Europe because it's much cheaper. Hahahah.
[/QUOTE]Thank you for taking the time to reply.

I was under the impression that all of the rooms at Kokoloko came with a kitchen is this not the case? Agoda Says 13 hotels in the area offer a kitchen and there are many homes equipped with a kitchen for rent some on the reasonable side under $60 a night. That's why I asked how tolerable these places are of mongering or if in some locations mongers need to stay in monger friendly hotels? As i am unsure about how tolerated this practice is there.

In theory almost all of the woman in madagascar should be blasian this is just a modern term for mixed race. As I've seen some very attractive malagasy women that I am into that do not look like women from the main African mainland. I am attracted to the exotic looking malagasy ladies but not so much the pure africans they are beautiful in their own right however that is not what my interest is in madagascar. Otherwise I would have chosen something on the mainland.

I eat Antibiotics and Cialis like candy now days, knowing they are readily available is one less thing to worry about.

Eat all the Cialis you want until your dick explodes. STOP eating antibiotics. Have you never heard of antibiotic resistance? Jesus.

[QUOTE=MontanaMonger;2819746]Thank you for taking the time to reply.

I was under the impression that all of the rooms at Kokoloko came with a kitchen is this not the case? Agoda Says 13 hotels in the area offer a kitchen and there are many homes equipped with a kitchen for rent some on the reasonable side under $60 a night. That's why I asked how tolerable these places are of mongering or if in some locations mongers need to stay in monger friendly hotels? As i am unsure about how tolerated this practice is there.

In theory almost all of the woman in madagascar should be blasian this is just a modern term for mixed race. As I've seen some very attractive malagasy women that I am into that do not look like women from the main African mainland. I am attracted to the exotic looking malagasy ladies but not so much the pure africans they are beautiful in their own right however that is not what my interest is in madagascar. Otherwise I would have chosen something on the mainland.

I eat Antibiotics and Cialis like candy now days, knowing they are readily available is one less thing to worry about.[/QUOTE]You keep saying 'mongering' as if it is like sex tourism destinations to which you are accustomed. Outside of Nosy Be popular with tourists and older retired fracophone gentlemen, this is just another poor African country. There is no set-up specifically for your gratification. Elsewhere is not really tourism in the ordinary sense or beach scene either -- no lemurs running around to take pictures of. Or even sights other than hiking trail type-things for young, outdoor adventuresome types. In every town can be found a Frenchman somewhere living out his endgame, and in bigger towns they have little businesses like guesthouses restaurants but they aren't welcoming of non-French people, although they will happily relieve you of your cash in a heartbeat.

Eat antibiotics like candy? Charming.

Recently took some time away from Nosy Be to visit the northeastern SAVA region. Here's a quick report.

I departed Nosy Be (Hellville) by speedboat to Ankify for 20.000 AR. From Ankify, I took a taxi-brousse for 80.000 AR which stopped in Ambilobe, Vohemar, and Sambava before arriving in Antalaha. The total ride time from Ankify to Antalaha was about 14 hours.

[B]Antalaha[/B]
I spent 3 days in the small beach town of Antalaha. Nothing special to report. Not much night life. The main beach is about one kilometer in length, not the cleanest, and the sand isn't very long. The water has strong currents with large waves, so locals don't swim much. There's a 1/2 kilometer promenade along the beach with a chairs and a short wall, so it's a popular place for locals to walk, sit, and hang out. This promenade is where I hunted, most successfully during the late afternoon and early evenings when everyone was returning from work / school.

There are several hotels in this area. Again nothing special. Just a bed, mosquito net, and small bathroom. Prices per night were 40.000 AR.

[B]Sambava[/B]
I spent 5 days in Sambava, which is a couple of hours north of Antalaha, also on the coast. Unlike Antalaha, the beach of Sambava is quite clean, lots of white sand, and it stretches for many kilometers. However, the most popular beaches of Sambava are located in the tourist (expensive) area. Locals live farther away and most cannot afford to pay 2. 000 AR each way for a tuktuk, so the beaches are largely empty.

The one exception is on Sundays, when locals come by the hundreds to the beach. It's more of a weekly outdoor festival. There are small rides for children, vendors cooking and selling grilled food on the beach, music, dancing, games, etc. It's a great party. Too bad this only happens one day per week.

Sambava also has a beachside promenade which is much longer than Antalaha. Again, this is prime hunting ground. I had a lot of success along this stretch.

Nightlife in Sambava was not much better than Antalaha. Both seem to be better for daytime hunting in my experience. Some bars / clubs that I visited include: Bar Anaka, Bar Analanjirof, Epi Bar, Club 208, RotsiRotsy, and Bar Raslof (the last 2 are located along the beach promenade).

Sambava's hotels are also very nice. I recommend Las Palmas and Orchidea Beach. Both are beachfront, located near the promenade.

[B]GENERAL OBSERVATIONS[/B]

[B]Language[/B]
I did not meet many ladies in Antalaha or Sambava who spoke French very well. The primary language was Malagasy. Fortunately, the dialect in this region (Betsimisaraka) is similar to the dialect of Nosy Be (Sakalava), so you can use the same Malagasy phrases in conversation.

[B]Not Many University-Age Ladies[/B]
Not a lot of 18-22 year olds in either Antalaha or Sambava. Perhaps this is due to the lack of a national university or to the lack of work opportunities. It seems that when a girl turns 18, she leaves SAVA and goes to Diego, Majunga, Tana, Nosy Be, etc for better educational and / or work opportunities.

[b]Ladies are Warm, Open, and Friendly[/b]
The ladies were very open and interested, much more than in Nosy Be. Fewer tourists visit the SAVA region, so there is a built-in curiosity and very high interest in foreign guys.

[B]Sambava for a GFE Holiday[/B]
Unlike Nosy Be, the towns of Antalaha and Sambava aren't built for a hunting a new girl every day of the week. Sure it's possible, but the logistics just aren't ideal. When I return to SAVA, I'll stay on Sambava beach and connect with a single lady for my 3-4 days in town.

[QUOTE=MontanaMonger;2819746]Thank you for taking the time to reply.

I was under the impression that all of the rooms at Kokoloko came with a kitchen is this not the case? Agoda Says 13 hotels in the area offer a kitchen and there are many homes equipped with a kitchen for rent some on the reasonable side under $60 a night. That's why I asked how tolerable these places are of mongering or if in some locations mongers need to stay in monger friendly hotels? As i am unsure about how tolerated this practice is there.

In theory almost all of the woman in madagascar should be blasian this is just a modern term for mixed race. As I've seen some very attractive malagasy women that I am into that do not look like women from the main African mainland. I am attracted to the exotic looking malagasy ladies but not so much the pure africans they are beautiful in their own right however that is not what my interest is in madagascar. Otherwise I would have chosen something on the mainland.

I eat Antibiotics and Cialis like candy now days, knowing they are readily available is one less thing to worry about.[/QUOTE]Yes, you are right about Kokoloko. I stayed there few nights with my buddy in the big room upstairs. There is a kitchen and two separated bedrooms with king size bed each. You should book directly, and you'll get a good price. We paid 76/ night for this room. Location is excellent, and totally soundproof: you don't hear the noise from the street.

'Langoustines' in french is baby lobsters, so I guess thius is not what you want to talk about. Lobster is LANGOUSTE. I understand you like to cook, but to be honest, you'd better book for it in a restaurant the morning, and they will cook it the way you want. Around 40.000 ariary / kg (8). You can go 'chez tantine' which is next to kokoloko, or papa bebeto, or batumoch (excellent restaurant).

About gasy girls, they all look like 'morenas' or 'mulatas'. Few light or blacks, but this is not the standard. To my opinion, they have more charm than latinas from repdom. But this personal taste. If you want to see a good sample of gasy girls, surf on Badoo or AfroIntroductions, and search for the area Madagascar.

[QUOTE=ChocolateHuntr;2820177]Recently took some time away from Nosy Be to visit the northeastern SAVA region. Here's a quick report.

I departed Nosy Be (Hellville) by speedboat to Ankify for 20.000 AR. From Ankify, I took a taxi-brousse for 80.000 AR which stopped in Ambilobe, Vohemar, and Sambava before arriving in Antalaha. The total ride time from Ankify to Antalaha was about 14 hours.

[B]Antalaha[/B]
I spent 3 days in the small beach town of Antalaha. Nothing special to report. Not much night life. The main beach is about one kilometer in length, not the cleanest, and the sand isn't very long. The water has strong currents with large waves, so locals don't swim much. There's a 1/2 kilometer promenade along the beach with a chairs and a short wall, so it's a popular place for locals to walk, sit, and hang out. This promenade is where I hunted, most successfully during the late afternoon and early evenings when everyone was returning from work / school.

There are several hotels in this area. Again nothing special. Just a bed, mosquito net, and small bathroom. Prices per night were 40.000 AR.

[B]Sambava[/B]
I spent 5 days in Sambava, which is a couple of hours north of Antalaha, also on the coast. Unlike Antalaha, the beach of Sambava is quite clean, lots of white sand, and it stretches for many kilometers. However, the most popular beaches of Sambava are located in the tourist (expensive) area. Locals live farther away and most cannot afford to pay 2. 000 AR each way for a tuktuk, so the beaches are largely empty.

The one exception is on Sundays, when locals come by the hundreds to the beach. It's more of a weekly outdoor festival. There are small rides for children, vendors cooking and selling grilled food on the beach, music, dancing, games, etc. It's a great party. Too bad this only happens one day per week.

Sambava also has a beachside promenade which is much longer than Antalaha. Again, this is prime hunting ground. I had a lot of success along this stretch.

Nightlife in Sambava was not much better than Antalaha. Both seem to be better for daytime hunting in my experience. Some bars / clubs that I visited include: Bar Anaka, Bar Analanjirof, Epi Bar, Club 208, RotsiRotsy, and Bar Raslof (the last 2 are located along the beach promenade).

Sambava's hotels are also very nice. I recommend Las Palmas and Orchidea Beach. Both are beachfront, located near the promenade.

[B]GENERAL OBSERVATIONS[/B]

[B]Language[/B]
I did not meet many ladies in Antalaha or Sambava who spoke French very well. The primary language was Malagasy. Fortunately, the dialect in this region (Betsimisaraka) is similar to the dialect of Nosy Be (Sakalava), so you can use the same Malagasy phrases in conversation.

[B]Not Many University-Age Ladies[/B]
Not a lot of 18-22 year olds in either Antalaha or Sambava. Perhaps this is due to the lack of a national university or to the lack of work opportunities. It seems that when a girl turns 18, she leaves SAVA and goes to Diego, Majunga, Tana, Nosy Be, etc for better educational and / or work opportunities.

[b]Ladies are Warm, Open, and Friendly[/b]
The ladies were very open and interested, much more than in Nosy Be. Fewer tourists visit the SAVA region, so there is a built-in curiosity and very high interest in foreign guys.

[B]Sambava for a GFE Holiday[/B]
Unlike Nosy Be, the towns of Antalaha and Sambava aren't built for a hunting a new girl every day of the week. Sure it's possible, but the logistics just aren't ideal. When I return to SAVA, I'll stay on Sambava beach and connect with a single lady for my 3-4 days in town.[/QUOTE]Thanks a lot for this report. How much for LT? Or did you take same girl GFE for several days? Did they ask for money, or like I did, only support them generously (good food, nice places, excursions, some presents like clothes or swimming suit.) ?

Antalaha / Sambava is where the best vanilla is produced. I hope you bought some. For those who wish to take vanilla back home, don't exceed 2 kg, or the customs will fine you. At the Tana airport, there is a 'Services phytosanitaires' office in the hall, where you can obtain a paper to legalize your vanilla or pepper for the customs (both madagascar and foreign). The document costs 20€, and will be established in 5 minutes, in front of you. No need to show the goods. They will write what you say.

Gents,

I need to book the cheapest flight out of Tana for proof of flight out of country as required for my Transformable visa. Where is the cheapest one way flight?? MRU and RUN are not cheap if I can't cancel after confirmation. They are around $450 each! Any ideas?

[QUOTE=BrasilSoccer0;2822164]Gents,

I need to book the cheapest flight out of Tana for proof of flight out of country as required for my Transformable visa. Where is the cheapest one way flight?? MRU and RUN are not cheap if I can't cancel after confirmation. They are around $450 each! Any ideas?[/QUOTE]For proof of flight very easy. Use.

[URL]https://www.fakeflighttickets.com/[/URL]

There's nothing cheaper. And even. If you manage to get your transformable there, which I don't believe if you do not have ALL the required paperwork like Certificate of no previous criminal record which you only get in the US. Your chances are again ZERO. The good news. Theres full service Visa providers in Tana which charge 600€ on top of the cost of the transformable. In that case you don't need to leave Madagascar. Its called corruption. Hahahah. Depends how dumb you are the total cost of visa long sejour runs between 2400 Euros and 3500 Euros for 5 years. Without any contacts again. ZERO chance to get one.

Good luck.

La Buse.

Legal resident of Isle Rouge.

[QUOTE=NamasteParis;2822069]Did they ask for money, or like I did, only support them generously (good food, nice places, excursions, some presents like clothes or swimming suit.)
[/QUOTE]

These arrangements can work successfully in many different ways, like you said by supporting them generously and / or by offering a cash gift directly. As long as everyone is satisfied, then it's all good.

I don't usually shop for clothes or other material gifts with my girls. But I always pay for meals (or we cook at my place) and in the morning when she leaves, I offer a cash "gift" to help with food, transport, school, etc. She can use the cash to buy clothes, makeup, or whatever she wants.

[QUOTE=NamasteParis;2822069]
How much for LT?
[/QUOTE]LT (all night) in Antalaha and Sambava I paid 40.000 AR. No complaints.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2822319]For proof of flight very easy. Use.

[URL]https://www.fakeflighttickets.com/[/URL]

Legal resident of Isle Rouge.[/QUOTE]Excellent! Thanks for the hint!

By the way, in french, the red island is: L'ile rouge, there is no s.

For those who wonder why Madagascar is called the red island, because of the color of the soil (lot of iron). When you take the northern road around the Mont Passot in Nosy Be, you can see that.

[QUOTE=ChocolateHuntr;2822621]LT (all night) in Antalaha and Sambava I paid 40.000 AR. No complaints.[/QUOTE]Thanks. According to past posts, this seems expensive for the cities in the province. But oh well. Hard work money well spent anyway.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2822319]For proof of flight very easy. Use.

[URL]https://www.fakeflighttickets.com/[/URL]

There's nothing cheaper. And even. If you manage to get your transformable there, which I don't believe if you do not have ALL the required paperwork like Certificate of no previous criminal record which you only get in the US. Your chances are again ZERO. The good news. Theres full service Visa providers in Tana which charge 600.[/QUOTE]But, but fakeflight tickets cost $5. That's $10 for a roundtrip fakeflight ticket! How can you in good conscious refer such an expensive thing to poor Brasil sucker, after getting him all excited thinking he's found a country he can almost actually afford.

I tried this fakeflighttickets but it is very suspicious. It asked for my email and credit card info including expiration and CCV before even asking for passenger information!! Is it normal?

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2822319]For proof of flight very easy. Use.

[URL]https://www.fakeflighttickets.com/[/URL]

There's nothing cheaper. And even. If you manage to get your transformable there, which I don't believe if you do not have ALL the required paperwork like Certificate of no previous criminal record which you only get in the US. Your chances are again ZERO. The good news. Theres full service Visa providers in Tana which charge 600 on top of the cost of the transformable. In that case you don't need to leave Madagascar. Its called corruption. Hahahah. Depends how dumb you are the total cost of visa long sejour runs between 2400 Euros and 3500 Euros for 5 years. Without any contacts again. ZERO chance to get one.

Good luck.

La Buse.

Legal resident of Isle Rouge.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BrasilSoccer0;2823198]I tried this fakeflighttickets but it is very suspicious. It asked for my email and credit card info including expiration and CCV before even asking for passenger information!! Is it normal?[/QUOTE]If you plan to cheat: nothing is normal. Everything is suspicious.

[QUOTE=BrasilSoccer0;2823198]I tried this fakeflighttickets but it is very suspicious. It asked for my email and credit card info including expiration and CCV before even asking for passenger information!! Is it normal?[/QUOTE]Man, this is the cost of the service. You need to pay 5 USD to get your fake ticket. It is not free!

Hi,

What is the best bar / disco to meet girl in Nosy BE?

[QUOTE=MxTH9;2825088]Hi,

What is the best bar / disco to meet girl in Nosy BE?[/QUOTE]There is not only one, but so many:

Just go to Route de Sud. At all the little bars, girls will stand in front and wait on you. It will be like in a candy shop. And if you can hear music from the inside, those are the bars where they dance naked on the table, similar to Windmill in Pattaya. They all will be happy to suck your little dick for 100. - Just tell them in Malgache: "Mba raiso ny tsinaiko keliko" They understand.

I am sure you will enjoy! Just take along a lot of cash.

[QUOTE=MxTH9;2825088]Hi,

What is the best bar / disco to meet girl in Nosy BE?[/QUOTE]There is not only one but many!

Just walk along Route de Sud. In front of the little houses, girls will wait on you. Its like a candy shop. If you hear music from the inside, those are the bars where they dance naked on the table like at Windmill in Pattaya. You can get your little dick sucked there for 100. - Just tell them in Malgache: "mba raiso ny tsinaiko keliko" They will understand.

I am sure you will enjoy. Just take a lot of cash along.

You need to go to Ambatoloaka at night. After 8 or 9 pm check out the bars. Especially taxi be bar. You will see many girls there. 4 years ago Djembe disco was a popular one which is 400 meters away from taxi be.

[QUOTE=MxTH9;2825088]Hi,

What is the best bar / disco to meet girl in Nosy BE?[/QUOTE]

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Before anyone say I should read the forum haha, I did read the forum and learnt that you need to know French to monger in Mada. I just started learning French. I am hoping in a few months, I would be somewhat familiar with the language. How fluent do we have to be in French and how much game do we need to have to have a good time? I am more interested in non-pros and girl next door types. I would really appreciate any input. Thanks in advance!

[QUOTE=Artvand1;2827440]Before anyone say I should read the forum haha, I did read the forum and learnt that you need to know French to monger in Mada. I just started learning French. I am hoping in a few months, I would be somewhat familiar with the language. How fluent do we have to be in French and how much game do we need to have to have a good time? I am more interested in non-pros and girl next door types. I would really appreciate any input. Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]This is the equation and it goes like this: where the people are dirt poor and do what they do to survive and where you have money, the opportunity to exploit them is there. Game? What are you talking about?

[QUOTE=Golfinho;2827445]This is the equation and it goes like this: where the people are dirt poor and do what they do to survive and where you have money, the opportunity to exploit them is there. Game? What are you talking about?[/QUOTE]Appreciate your reply. That makes sense unfortunately. I meant game as in flirting.

[QUOTE=Artvand1;2827479]Appreciate your reply. That makes sense unfortunately. I meant game as in flirting.[/QUOTE]You want to go to a poor African country to 'flirt' and work your 'game'. That's funny. Thanks for the laugh.

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2825548]There is not only one, but so many:

Just go to Route de Sud. At all the little bars, girls will stand in front and wait on you. It will be like in a candy shop. And if you can hear music from the inside, those are the bars where they dance naked on the table, similar to Windmill in Pattaya. They all will be happy to suck your little dick for 100. - Just tell them in Malgache: "Mba raiso ny tsinaiko keliko" They understand.

I am sure you will enjoy! Just take along a lot of cash.[/QUOTE]Never seen or heard of such bars where girls dance naked, although I crawled everywhere in Ambotoloaka, night and day! Any hint? Location? You really meant 100 Ariary? maybe 10000, no?

[QUOTE=NamasteParis;2827547]Never seen or heard of such bars where girls dance naked, although I crawled everywhere in Ambotoloaka, night and day! Any hint? Location? You really meant 100 Ariary? maybe 10000, no?[/QUOTE]Relax -- the article was created by AI. My comment got deleted by the admin already because it was unproductive.

Just take note that I did enjoy reading your excellent report!

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2827556]Relax -- the article was created by AI. My comment got deleted by the admin already because it was unproductive.

Just take note that I did enjoy reading your excellent report![/QUOTE]Created by AI? Really? Wow amazing. Thanks for your appreciation!

[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2761257]I'm sitting in Hotel Shalimar (recommended) in Tana right now and my Trip is going to end.



2. The Language.

Yes, I knew this before.

I learned french for about one year with an App every day, but it was not enough.

I don't understand them, or they don't understand me. Its a hassle, but ST still possible, but I miss somehow the communication.
[/QUOTE]Thanks for your reports. Many here say that you need French. I have been learning with a private tutor for about 3 months now. What's the point if we can't understand them? How important was French in picking up women? Appreciate any input. I really want to visit Mada not just for the women but for the wildfire. And the women here were the most receptive online in Facebook.

[QUOTE=Artvand1;2829336]Thanks for your reports. Many here say that you need French. I have been learning with a private tutor for about 3 months now. What's the point if we can't understand them? How important was French in picking up women? Appreciate any input. I really want to visit Mada not just for the women but for the wildfire. And the women here were the most receptive online in Facebook.[/QUOTE]You have 100 questions asked here in the ISG forum. But no report of essence. No contribution to the forum yet!

Learn french, if you like to start a long term alliance in Mada. The girls who speak good french are looking for a husband to get her to France. The Schengen Visa is their target. Not a monger from USA. Its a francophile country with Malagasy as their mother tongue.

If you however just want to 'milele' a bar girl in Tana or NosyBe, you don't need any language. Just money.

And now comes your contribution!

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2829378]You have 100 questions asked here in the ISG forum. But no report of essence. No contribution to the forum yet!

Learn french, if you like to start a long term alliance in Mada. The girls who speak good french are looking for a husband to get her to France. The Schengen Visa is their target. Not a monger from USA. Its a francophile country with Malagasy as their mother tongue.

If you however just want to 'milele' a bar girl in Tana or NosyBe, you don't need any language. Just money.

And now comes your contribution![/QUOTE]Thanks, really appreciate it. I do post my trip reports. Just that my questions have increased recently since I wanna visit all places but can't decide which one lol. The agony of choice I guess. I knew someone would say this LOL but I do give back to the Forum. Please check my reports in Montreal, Costa Rica, and Germany FKK forums before accusing me of something.

Finally going back, anybody around then? Tana, Tamatave and Nosey be for 45 days.

[QUOTE=JazzyDaddy;2830599]Finally going back, anybody around then? Tana, Tamatave and Nosey be for 45 days.[/QUOTE]Pity I will be here just on beginning of December would like to meet you again as we done it at mada and Colombia before. If you need some beauties contacts from mada give me a shout on private message. L have hundreds of hundreds girls to share for proper monger!

What the heck is a proper monger? To my definition of a proper monger you do not need any addresses in Mada at all, like that it just becomes a frustration from time to time. All it need is money, a bit of French skills and decent, respectable human behavior.

Yes, I'll pm you! Maybe 2024 we can explore the many delights of mada.

Some described situations remind me to the guy how asked me in a Bangkok Gogobar how he could approach one of this nude girls and if he would do so it would not bee a offend to the girl. The hard thing in Mada is the surviving and not the hock up off the girls.

Eye-contact, smile, "salu" , wave. Response and you have a match. That is the way to go in Mada or you just look silly in the girls Eye right from the start for a good reason.

Can not stand the waiting. LOL.

The 50 K are still just over 10 EUR and the central bank is holding against it with piling up its gold-reserve.

I'm not talking about vanilla or pepper. Souvenirs for the girls!

Due to my profession I have easy and cheap access to dental care products, this time I will take some dental care kits including alcohol free mouth-rinse.

Any other successions apart from soap, condoms and Parfums?

Flight prices are coming down again.

Haha. How about alcohol free Listerine? It is very expensive in Madagascar.

[QUOTE=Tinte;2832370]I'm not talking about vanilla or pepper. Souvenirs for the girls!

Due to my profession I have easy and cheap access to dental care products, this time I will take some dental care kits including alcohol free mouth-rinse.

Any other successions apart from soap, condoms and Parfums?

Flight prices are coming down again.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kako123;2832423]Haha. How about alcohol free Listerine? It is very expensive in Madagascar.[/QUOTE]Air France is still 23 Kg luggage free. Last time I took some sets tooth brushes an paste. They loved it too!

Dear fellow Mada mongers and experts.

I have never been to Madagascar so far. But after reading this forum, it seems that I have missed out something. 😊.

My mongering experiences so far "only" cover SEA (Thailand, Phills, Cambodia, Vietnam, .), South America (Brazil, Colombia, Venezuela, Argentina, Chile), the Caribbean (Dominican Republic, Cuba, Jamaica) and Africa (Kenya, Togo, Ghana, Sierra Leone) . And now I plan to extend it to Madagascar.

I will travel to Madagascar in October this year. But only in an organized tourist tour. And I will try to engage in our hobby as much as possible (I hope I can sometimes sneak away) . But after this trip, I will plan a pure mongering trip to Madagascar. Maybe in early 2024 . Let's see.

So as I first step I RTTF. 😊. I copied all reports (from 07-03-23 to 12-31-20) to a word document (time frame 2 and a half years, more than 300 A4 pages), read it, marked the important information, then condensed and categorized it, and finally re-edited it to a kind of "mongering guide" (did only a "copy & paste" of relevant textual passages).

I would like to give kudos to all who have contributed to this forum. Especially to Neddy69, Pokeris, Amadeuss, SouthEaster, Golfinho, Bienenstich, Albert9989, ChocolateHuntr, Roaming Viking, NamasteParis and others. Really appreciate all your efforts and information.

I hope you are not pissed, because I copied your texts and violated somehow your "copyright" . 😊.

Anyway, I have attached a copy of my mongering guide here. Please feel free to use it and share it to other fellow mongers. For the benefit of all of us!

I thought that after all my efforts and work I have invested in the last days / weeks, it would make sense also to share my "results / product" here within our community.

Of course, I do not take any responsibility for the correctness of the information. But I really carefully copied the information from all the reports. And yes, the information was sometimes a bit contradictory. But still I think this guide can be helpful for the new kids on the block.

Please keep up with your great work / further reports (I will also do so, after my return end of October) and always stay safe!

Cheers.

Dars Veider.

[QUOTE=DarsVeider;2832656]Dear fellow Mada mongers and experts. ... Cheers. Dars Veider.[/QUOTE]Wow! Impressive. Thanks a lot! But why will you go there on October with an 'organized tourist tour' Really? Can't you go by yourself, or with a buddy? I guess you won't have any occasion to enjoy our activity if you always are visiting with a group. Pity!

Compliments from my side too!

You have proven, it is possibel to read RTFF down to the peanuts!

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2421994]. . Fb girls some of them was shy, don't like any pic (because don't want be seen at hotels or have boyfriends) and not so good at bed as pros from clubs. I suggest tamatave for someone who can speak french and like datings plenty of girls who want date here. Like example I text around 20 facebook girls and ask if they want meet me? 19 of them agree. My second question follows can they come my hotel room? From 19 girls agree to come my room around 8 or 9 girls others said I am not a working girl or something simillar to let you know she is not interested to it. So its means its plenty pros and non pros here who want date. I not into datings because its not so fun without french language. .[/QUOTE]So what some proper monger needs this FB contacts for? As I said, all you need is a bit of French skills. Have fun and do not waste time!

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[QUOTE=Romeu4;2835087]I am thinking of going there for the first time and wonder if it's like in TH or PH or Brazil where you can easily find feminine chicks with dicks in the same party areas as the genetic girls.

Like everywhere else, there must be effeminate gays in Madagascar but are they allowed to P4 P publicly? Or it's on the downlown only?

Any information would be very valuable to me. Especially if there is an underground scene. I intend to meet girls, but sometimes like to vary or do threesomes with a ladyboy.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Wrong country for that. Try Uganda.

[QUOTE=Golfinho;2835162]Wrong country for that. Try Uganda.[/QUOTE]Uganda? Chicks with dicks? They quarter and burn you alive. Like Madagascar.

LaBuse.

Do any of you guys know places of full service massage in Tana? Best with a big lineup?

[QUOTE=Dodochen;2835430]Do any of you guys know places of full service massage in Tana? Best with a big lineup?[/QUOTE]This isn't Pattaya or Angeles City. It's a poor African country. Servicing commercial sex tourists isn't on the menu.

A big lineup? After dark on the street.

[QUOTE=Romeu4;2835087]I am thinking of going there for the first time and wonder if it's like in TH or PH or Brazil where you can easily find feminine chicks with dicks in the same party areas as the genetic girls.

Like everywhere else, there must be effeminate gays in Madagascar but are they allowed to P4 P publicly? Or it's on the downlown only?

Any information would be very valuable to me. Especially if there is an underground scene. I intend to meet girls, but sometimes like to vary or do threesomes with a ladyboy.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Have you been to Africa mongering before? I don't think so.

[QUOTE=Dodochen;2835430]Do any of you guys know places of full service massage in Tana? Best with a big lineup?[/QUOTE]Ask Tinte he is an expert here of reading forum and lonely planet and reshare information after. Top contritutor on mada forum.

To the initial question: There was a poste about massage parlors at Lalana Russie in Tana. According to the one poste they offer massage-plus performed by a a choice, line up of girls. Photo of one girl attached. The prices were rather high for a short afternoon session, but she did the job and the guy was happy, advised wisely other members to treat the girl nice and with respect. Her name was Ana?

[QUOTE=Tinte;2835630]To the initial question: There was a poste about massage parlors at Lalana Russie in Tana. According to the one poste they offer massage-plus performed by a a choice, line up of girls. Photo of one girl attached. The prices were rather high for a short afternoon session, but she did the job and the guy was happy, advised wisely other members to treat the girl nice and with respect. Her name was Ana?[/QUOTE]My Ana hasn't been totally forgotten as I can see. Thanks for the reminder.

Yes the post should still be there but was in year 2018, solo.

Don't know what happened to these Lana Russia MP's.

But still a very nice remind.

[QUOTE=Tinte;2834605]So what some proper monger needs this FB contacts for? As I said, all you need is a bit of French skills. Have fun and do not waste time![/QUOTE]So since I am the person my friend Pokeris was referring to as a Proper Monger, I'll say a word. I met Pokeris in Tamatave in February of 2020. We mongered there in Tamatave, in Tana and Nosey Be. He is seasoned, discerning and a major contributor to the board. I met up with him again in Bogata, Colombia in 2022 and again had fun exploring the ladies of the night and day. Why the term is an issue I don't know, I don't believe it was intended as an insult to all those Improper Mongers out in the netherworld LOL.

I enjoyed moste of the posts made by Pokeris very much and draw my conclusion out of it to make the moste of the fun time in Mada. Running around with voice translater hunting Fb friends in a country where some people speak hardly any or no French at all is a way that has been proven to bee very ineffektiv by Pokeris himself. Thanks for that. Do not start or get rid of this ridiculous habits, work on your handicap and become what I call a proper monger. And yes, perhaps just a issue of the definition. LOL.

[QUOTE=JazzyDaddy;2835924]So since I am the person my friend Pokeris was referring to as a Proper Monger, I'll say a word. I met Pokeris in Tamatave in February of 2020. We mongered there in Tamatave, in Tana and Nosey Be. He is seasoned, discerning and a major contributor to the board. I met up with him again in Bogata, Colombia in 2022 and again had fun exploring the ladies of the night and day. Why the term is an issue I don't know, I don't believe it was intended as an insult to all those Improper Mongers out in the netherworld LOL.[/QUOTE]If I was you I don't pay attention to this guy at all. He know just how read forum and reshare other members value information as he don't have any value information himself for share. Most smarter members on this forum already ignore him long time!. He will never understand meaning of proper monger!

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2836008]If I was you I don't pay attention to this guy at all. He know just how read forum and reshare other members value information as he don't have any value information himself for share. Most smarter members on this forum already ignore him long time!. He will never understand meaning of proper monger![/QUOTE]Taking advantage of girls just because they innocently have a Facebook account? Sure, it can be done, but is that 'proper' or is it egregious, Eugenijus? There's more than enough girls who 'want' to be mongered.

[QUOTE=Golfinho;2836027]Taking advantage of girls just because they innocently have a Facebook account? Sure, it can be done, but is that 'proper' or is it egregious, Eugenijus? There's more than enough girls who 'want' to be mongered.[/QUOTE]Taking advantages of facebook girls? You are funny. Every guy who comes mada or other african country and paying for sex is taking advantages of situation somehow as girls they poor and don't have to much options to make better money and its doesn't matter its fb girl or street girl or something else. But who cares? Me not as its life nobody force them! If you not pay someone else will pay! And proper monger meaning its not about mada girls o fb or mongering in mada. For me proper monger the one who been many diffrent countries, visited many brothels, casas, or simillar places has many valuable information to share for our hobby!! Whats why the guy was called proper monger. Probably next time you can go mada together with tinte and monger together as I see you suit each other perfectly!!

[QUOTE=Romeu4;2836130]I am the guy who asked below if there are transwomen P4 Ps in Madagascar.

- man-to-man sex is actually quite widespread on the downlow and not seen as an abherration if it's just a form of release, especially among boys.

I was hoping Madagascar / Nosy Be having established itself as a sex tourism hotspot, there might be a few trannies around. Are there?

.[/QUOTE]Never really thought of Nosy be as a 'sex tourist' destination. It's small, most of the guys are old French and Italian, and are there as it has the mediterranean-like climate. For what you're looking for, I'd say it's more likely to be found in the former-British colonies than the French african ones.

"Just a form of release, especially among boys. " ?

Consequences for flagrantly violating fady are as Neddy pointed out.

Sorry, Pokeris to make you so upset, it was not exactly meant like that. Just tried to give you some assistance in becoming a proper Monger as for what I recognize on as such. At the moment I learn some Malagassi like: Avia asehoy ahy ny fonao.

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2836090]Taking advantages of facebook girls? You are funny. Every guy who comes mada or other african country and paying for sex is taking advantages of situation somehow as girls they poor and don't have to much options to make better money and its doesn't matter its fb girl or street girl or something else. But who cares? Me not as its life nobody force them! If you not pay someone else will pay! And proper monger meaning its not about mada girls o fb or mongering in mada.[/QUOTE]Just because a girl is poor is no excuse to take advantage of her. A girl innocently creates a facebook profile. You see it and her picture excites you, excites your discerning taste. So you attempt to set up a meeting, then strongarm her into submitting to whatever you want, tell yourself she's lucky to have a good place to sleep (your cheap hotel), and should be thankful a good-looking foreigner LOL found her, then you slip her 5 euros, or maybe 10 if you are feeling especially generous (and you enjoyed the fcuk). And you tell yourself, everybody does this, if I don't do it, somebody else will. Your idea of 'proper'. And of course you take pictures to enjoy later, and to show others what you got. Just because everybody else is doing something egregious Eugenijus is no excuse for you to do it. There are more than enough women out there without having to exploit the most vulnerable.

[QUOTE=Golfinho;2836160]Never really thought of Nosy be as a 'sex tourist' destination. It's small, most of the guys are old French and Italian, and are there as it has the mediterranean-like climate. For what you're looking for, I'd say it's more likely to be found in the former-British colonies than the French african ones.

"Just a form of release, especially among boys. " ?

Consequences for flagrantly violating fady are as Neddy pointed out.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I have no idea what you are talking about "Consequences for flagrantly violating fady are as Neddy pointed out. " what is fady? Who is Neddy? What did he point out?

I did not violate anything? Did I?

[QUOTE=Romeu4;2836317]Thanks. I have no idea what you are talking about "Consequences for flagrantly violating fady are as Neddy pointed out. " what is fady? Who is Neddy? What did he point out?

I did not violate anything? Did I?[/QUOTE]Nosy Be is small. And insular. Everybody will soon enough know what you're about and what you're doing. Would we enjoy seeing your quartered and charred corpse? Not really. But no one here would appreciate your contribution towards giving foreigners a worse reputation. Good luck.

I notice the forum is slowly turning into a day care institution.

[QUOTE=Golfinho;2836294]Just because a girl is poor is no excuse to take advantage of her. A girl innocently creates a facebook profile. You see it and her picture excites you, excites your discerning taste. So you attempt to set up a meeting, then strongarm her into submitting to whatever you want, tell yourself she's lucky to have a good place to sleep (your cheap hotel), and should be thankful a good-looking foreigner LOL found her, then you slip her 5 euros, or maybe 10 if you are feeling especially generous (and you enjoyed the fcuk). And you tell yourself, everybody does this, if I don't do it, somebody else will. Your idea of 'proper'. And of course you take pictures to enjoy later, and to show others what you got. Just because everybody else is doing something egregious Eugenijus is no excuse for you to do it. There are more than enough women out there without having to exploit the most vulnerable.[/QUOTE]What was a point of this nonsense. You not paying girls yourself in madagascar? Or you give them 20 euros instead 10 euros and you think you are better than other guys because you have more money and are more generous for girls?? Or you think you make girls feel better if you bring her to sleep to not cheap hotel?

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2836467]What was a point of this nonsense. You not paying girls yourself in madagascar? Or you give them 20 euros instead 10 euros and you think you are better than other guys because you have more money and are more generous for girls?? Or you think you make girls feel better if you bring her to sleep to not cheap hotel?[/QUOTE]Dude, I know English is not your first language, but it was impossible to resist after you introduced your concept of "proper. " As for bullying poor girls into having sex with you because you found their profiles on Facebook, well, your momma be proud of you. LOL.

[QUOTE=Golfinho;2836650]Dude, I know English is not your first language, but it was impossible to resist after you introduced your concept of "proper. " As for bullying poor girls into having sex with you because you found their profiles on Facebook, well, your momma be proud of you. LOL.[/QUOTE]If I am bullying poor girls with facebook have sex with me I wonder what are you doing yourself in Madagascar? Don't get away from questions tell everyone how you avoiding bullying poor girls in Madagascar its becomes very interesting how you managing to come Madagascar pay for sex like most of the guys on this forum but you think you doing not the same. If you don't have answers better not waste your and my time.

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2836881]If I am bullying poor girls with facebook have sex with me I wonder what are you doing yourself in Madagascar? Don't get away from questions tell everyone how you avoiding bullying poor girls in Madagascar its becomes very interesting how you managing to come Madagascar pay for sex like most of the guys on this forum but you think you doing not the same. If you don't have answers better not waste your and my time.[/QUOTE]There's so many girls dying to meet you -- for any of reasons, and of course the money -- that to prey on ones that simply have a facebook profile is, well, pretty low. Of course we're all in this godforsaken country -- and face it Madagascar has nothing to recommend -- for one reason, but when it's so easy to find a girl, why do you have to pick on simple ones, browbeat and bully them until you can get into their pants? Unless that's how you get off. Pretty egregious Eugenijus. Everybody may look for girls, but no, not everyone does what you do.

[QUOTE=Golfinho;2836914]There's so many girls dying to meet you -- for any of reasons, and of course the money -- that to prey on ones that simply have a facebook profile is, well, pretty low. Of course we're all in this godforsaken country -- and face it Madagascar has nothing to recommend -- for one reason, but when it's so easy to find a girl, why do you have to pick on simple ones, browbeat and bully them until you can get into their pants? Unless that's how you get off. Pretty egregious Eugenijus. Everybody may look for girls, but no, not everyone does what you do.[/QUOTE]Seems you still living in stone age!! 90-95 percent of malagashy girls has facebooks even so many doing tiktoks now. I even can't remember if I ever meet the one who not have facebook. So doesn't matter you meet her in a bar, street, club, market, shop, or church if you ask fb she will give you and If she need money she will go with you and you will take advantages of situation anyway as they poor!! But if you manage to find girls in small villages ot towns who don't have facebook so its means you going for most poorest ones and most vulnerable who has simple phones and don't have money at all to afford smart phone so you are the one who taking advantage of situation even more. I not see any point to waste my time anymore to replying as you repeating the same nonse again and again!! Find something else beter to do than annoying with your sermons!!

It's my first visit to Madagascar, I arrived a few days ago and am currently staying in Tana. I met her on Tinder, and she came to my hotel room this afternoon.

I'm English, and don't speak French. After an initial intro via Tinder from myself, in English, she replied in French. Using google translate, I replied that I don't speak French and asked her if she spoke English. She replied in French to say she didn't, and suggested I use an app to translate.

So, after a few more exchanges using the translate app, I told her I was looking for sex.

She asked me how much I would give her, and I offered (all prices are in MGA/AR) 70k, s/t and she agreed.

I then told her I don't use condoms, she was ok with that but asked me to finish outside.

I said I wanted to finish inside, and she turned me down. I said I really wanted to finish inside and asked a few more times, but each time she declined. I persisted and eventually she agreed but asked for 150k. I made an offer of 100k and she quickly agreed and we arranged a time for her to come to my hotel.

She arrived a little bit late (only 15 minutes, not a problem). 22 years old, no kids, I think she is really pretty, she had a good attitude and has a really beautiful body. She was my first Malagasy girl.

Great report! And great photos of that beauty. Where in Tana are you staying?

Was CIM or anal on the menu?

[QUOTE=Mdemde;2837428]It's my first visit to Madagascar, I arrived a few days ago and am currently staying in Tana. I met her on Tinder, and she came to my hotel room this afternoon.

I'm English, and don't speak French. After an initial intro via Tinder from myself, in English, she replied in French. Using google translate, I replied that I don't speak French and asked her if she spoke English. She replied in French to say she didn't, and suggested I use an app to translate.

So, after a few more exchanges using the translate app, I told her I was looking for sex.

She asked me how much I would give her, and I offered (all prices are in MGA/AR) 70k, s/t and she agreed.

I then told her I don't use condoms, she was ok with that but asked me to finish outside.

I said I wanted to finish inside, and she turned me down. I said I really wanted to finish inside and asked a few more times, but each time she declined. I persisted and eventually she agreed but asked for 150k. I made an offer of 100k and she quickly agreed and we arranged a time for her to come to my hotel.

She arrived a little bit late (only 15 minutes, not a problem). 22 years old, no kids, I think she is really pretty, she had a good attitude and has a really beautiful body. She was my first Malagasy girl.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2837038]Seems you still living in stone age!! 90-95 percent of malagashy girls has facebooks even so many doing tiktoks now. I even can't remember if I ever meet the one who not have facebook. So doesn't matter you meet her in a bar, street, club, market, shop, or church if you ask fb she will give you and If she need money she will go with you and you will take advantages of situation anyway as they poor!! But if you manage to find girls in small villages ot towns who don't have facebook so its means you going for most poorest ones and most vulnerable who has simple phones and don't have money at all to afford smart phone so you are the one who taking advantage of situation even more. I not see any point to waste my time anymore to replying as you repeating the same nonse again and again!! Find something else beter to do than annoying with your sermons!![/QUOTE]Sure, all girls have facebooks. And all girls want to be prey for foreigners, good-looking ones like you. With so many down for some fun, you have to be pretty cruel to take advantage and abuse the simple ones.

BTW, what happens to a girl that you impregnate? Answer: she got lucky! Hahahaha.

[QUOTE=Mdemde;2837428]..... I met her on Tinder, and she came to my hotel room this afternoon.

I'm English, and don't speak French. After an initial intro via Tinder from myself, in English, she replied in French. Using google translate, I replied that I don't speak French and asked her if she spoke English. She replied in French to say she didn't, and suggested I use an app to translate.
......[/QUOTE]I am wondering how on earth you pulled this off because I am having no luck with Tinder after all. I even bought a platinum membership but I get almost no matches and the selection of girls on Tinder is very poor. There is also the language barrier that no girl speaks English and I speak no French, like you described.

I am considering doing the same like Pokeris to create a Facebook and try it this way, because my trip is coming up and I have no girls at all.

Will you stay in Tana or move around?

[QUOTE=Mdemde;2837428]It's my first visit to Madagascar, I arrived a few days ago and am currently staying in Tana. I met her on Tinder, and she came to my hotel room this afternoon.

I'm English, and don't speak French. After an initial intro via Tinder from myself, in English, she replied in French. Using google translate, I replied that I don't speak French and asked her if she spoke English. She replied in French to say she didn't, and suggested I use an app to translate.

So, after a few more exchanges using the translate app, I told her I was looking for sex.

She asked me how much I would give her, and I offered (all prices are in MGA/AR) 70k, s/t and she agreed.

I then told her I don't use condoms, she was ok with that but asked me to finish outside.

I said I wanted to finish inside, and she turned me down. I said I really wanted to finish inside and asked a few more times, but each time she declined. I persisted and eventually she agreed but asked for 150k. I made an offer of 100k and she quickly agreed and we arranged a time for her to come to my hotel..[/QUOTE]Welcome to observe the downhill tendency of Tana: non French speakers coming there with the assumption the girls are the same as in Cartagena, Angeles or Pattaya. Then overpaying for a ST fuck. Great!

In 5 years we may see tabletop-dancer bars opening and barfine to be paid, that the foreign investors can cash in on the (still) wonderful girls.

To discover Mada you must understand their language and accept their different attitude and social system. Booking by Tinder a pro is for the lost souls. Walk the streets, smile, have a few word in Malgache or French. And then: Lelena.

[QUOTE=Mdemde;2837428] I made an offer of 100k and she quickly agreed.[/QUOTE]Well, you just paid twice the price. Congratulations to rise the price for the next ones.

Why can't people put in their head that LT price is 50 K max, and this is for best service?

Why don't you change your parameters as soon as you touch the ground of a foreign country?

A short story:

You win the lottery.

Next morning, you go to buy your bread at the bakery, just as you did it for years everyday.

You then tell the baker: Oh, I have plenty of money, so I'll pay the bread 100 dollars everyday now.
The baker quickly agrees.

Now, are you generous, or stupid?

Next day, baker sells the bread 100 dollars.

Now, were you generous, or stupid?

Answer this question, and please change your mind. Thanks for the others.

[QUOTE=DerTyperb;2837722]I am wondering how on earth you pulled this off because I am having no luck with Tinder after all. I even bought a platinum membership but I get almost no matches and the selection of girls on Tinder is very poor. There is also the language barrier that no girl speaks English and I speak no French, like you described.?[/QUOTE]Unless you've forgotten how, or you've never done it before, just pretend you're a man and try talking to a woman -- in person. And if you think the language barrier is the cause of your failure, try an English-speaking African country -- Kenya, Uganda, Botswana: any one will do.

[QUOTE=Mdemde;2837428]It's my first visit to Madagascar, I arrived a few days ago and am currently staying in Tana. I met her on Tinder, and she came to my hotel room this afternoon.

I'm English, and don't speak French. After an initial intro via Tinder from myself, in English, she replied in French. Using google translate, I replied that I don't speak French and asked her if she spoke English. She replied in French to say she didn't, and suggested I use an app to translate.

So, after a few more exchanges using the translate app, I told her I was looking for sex.

She asked me how much I would give her, and I offered (all prices are in MGA/AR) 70k, s/t and she agreed.

I then told her I don't use condoms, she was ok with that but asked me to finish outside.

I said I wanted to finish inside, and she turned me down. I said I really wanted to finish inside and asked a few more times, but each time she declined. I persisted and eventually she agreed but asked for 150k. I made an offer of 100k and she quickly agreed and we arranged a time for her to come to my hotel.

She arrived a little bit late (only 15 minutes, not a problem). 22 years old, no kids, I think she is really pretty, she had a good attitude and has a really beautiful body. She was my first Malagasy girl.[/QUOTE]Of an improper monger.

A proper monger, a pirate or a cauliflower. I do not care. But for what matters ist the attitude towards girls on the ground and the tone in the community in this forum. Some behave equally as poor in a not entertaining form at all. And yes we have seen this in the mid summer blues bevor. Les fleurs des Banananiers ils attendent. LOL.

[QUOTE=JazzyDaddy;2837988]Of an improper monger.[/QUOTE]How so? What's improper?

[QUOTE=JeanYou;2837433]Great report! And great photos of that beauty. Where in Tana are you staying?

Was CIM or anal on the menu?[/QUOTE]I was staying at the Radisson serviced apartments, near the Irish pub (I left Tana a few days ago, and am currently in Nosy Be).

I didn't ask about CIM or anal, so I don't know. All I wanted on the day was CIP, and she duly obliged!

[QUOTE=DerTyperb;2837722]I am wondering how on earth you pulled this off because I am having no luck with Tinder after all. I even bought a platinum membership but I get almost no matches and the selection of girls on Tinder is very poor. There is also the language barrier that no girl speaks English and I speak no French, like you described.

I am considering doing the same like Pokeris to create a Facebook and try it this way, because my trip is coming up and I have no girls at all.

Will you stay in Tana or move around?[/QUOTE]I'm currently on a 6 week trip to East Africa; I was in Kenya for 2 weeks (1 week in Nairobi and 1 week in Mombasa), then 1 week in Rwanda. I arrived in Tana last week and am now in Nosy Be. I will be going to Toa next week for a few days before heading off back home to Cebu, in the Philippines where I currently live.

I hope I didn't give the impression that it was easy to meet up with this girl. I contacted many girls via Tinder, and have had many likes, but they almost always turn out to be a waste of time eg after a few message exchanges they don't bother to reply. It's a numbers game and you have to keep playing to win!

For example, in Kenya I spent many hours on Tinder and managed to get some offers, but the prices they wanted for sex were exorbitant and they all insisted on condom use. Personally I don't use condoms and I turned them all down.

In Kigali in Rwanda there were fewer girls on Tinder, the only replies I got were actually after I had already left the country.

I had a coffee date with one girl in Mombasa whom I met via Tinder. I didn't talk about sex during the Tinder chat and didn't mention payment. After the first date I asked her out for dinner the next day, and then asked her to come and stay with me for a few days and she agreed. No money was mentioned, but she was 22 and I'm pushing 70 so I'm not kidding myself that she is after me for my youthful looks.

So, in bed, at my hotel room, I'm getting ready to have sex with her then she asks me to put on a condom and despite my sweet talk she firmly refused to have sex unless I was covered up. I asked her if she could give me a CIM BJ or a swallow BJ instead, but she declined, and said she would only give a BJ if I finished outside.

In the end, we didn't have sex, and I didn't get a BJ. I would rather not have sex at all than to have sex and use a condom, or for a BJ it has to be either a CIM or a cum swallow or not at all!

She was a nice girl and pleasant to be with, and I did stay with her a few days and apart from DFK and some fingering and groping, there was no sex. I bought her a few items of clothing and gave her a little bit of pocket money when we parted company.

2 weeks in Kenya then 1 week in Rwanda and I never had sex with any of the locals! I had been more than 3 weeks without sex before meeting the Tana girl.

As for my observation, I could done them all bareback with no extra money spend. But I never did BB. Just do not mention it let it go and go for it on your own risk management. To ask for it, that is simply a indication to the girl for a extra income. For those ho read the Forum properly, BB is pretty much standard.

So you paid double price because you did not read the FF. The same applies to pictures taking with no face, I assume You just did it with no extra cost. LOL?

Do you spoil the market like that as other member argued? I do not care its your cash. Do as you please.

I do not believe in a real impact of a few newbies, anyway. Its like a prices of the coconuts, mango fruits etc. You get to know the the price and the system or not. Do as you please and enjoy.

[QUOTE=NamasteParis;2837887]Well, you just paid twice the price. Congratulations to rise the price for the next ones.

Why can't people put in their head that LT price is 50 K max, and this is for best service?

Why don't you change your parameters as soon as you touch the ground of a foreign country?

A short story:

You win the lottery.

Next morning, you go to buy your bread at the bakery, just as you did it for years everyday.

You then tell the baker: Oh, I have plenty of money, so I'll pay the bread 100 dollars everyday now.
The baker quickly agrees.

Now, are you generous, or stupid?

Next day, baker sells the bread 100 dollars.

Now, were you generous, or stupid?

Answer this question, and please change your mind. Thanks for the others.[/QUOTE]He actually paid 4 times too much because this was for ST not for LT.

Very stupid indeed.

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2837819]Welcome to observe the downhill tendency of Tana: non French speakers coming there with the assumption the girls are the same as in Cartagena, Angeles or Pattaya. Then overpaying for a ST fuck. Great!

In 5 years we may see tabletop-dancer bars opening and barfine to be paid, that the foreign investors can cash in on the (still) wonderful girls.

To discover Mada you must understand their language and accept their different attitude and social system. Booking by Tinder a pro is for the lost souls. Walk the streets, smile, have a few word in Malgache or French. And then: Lelena.[/QUOTE]I was aware that English is not widely used in Madagascar, and was not expecting that the girls would be the same as in Angeles or Pattaya (or in the dozen or so other countries) where I have extensive mongering experience.

This is my first visit to Madagascar, and I came looking for a completely new experience.

I have walked the streets in Tana (and Nosy Be where I am currently staying) and met many girls. I also went to Glacier and de L'Independance in Tana and met many girls. But I am extremely choosy with girls and my normal target age is 18 to 19/20.

Did I overpay with the Tana girl? Maybe. For me, this girl was outside my target age, but she was, to me, ravishingly beautiful with a ravishingly beautiful and voluptuous body. Of course, prior to meeting her in real life I only had her pics to judge. When I did meet her I knew I had a diamond!

I was quite happy to pay what I did. If I was less choosy, I could have easily hooked up with a less beautiful girl and saved myself some money.

I joined ISG about 4 years ago, and prior to joining had not even considered mongering in Mada. Reading thru the posts in the Mada forum soon changed my mind. I noted the suggestions in the forum about the rates for sex with the girls, but this girl to me was worth the extra ra.

[QUOTE=Mdemde;2838333]I was aware that English is not widely used in Madagascar, and was not expecting that the girls would be the same as in Angeles or Pattaya (or in the dozen or so other countries) where I have extensive mongering experience.

This is my first visit to Madagascar, and I came looking for a completely new experience.

.[/QUOTE]You like to boast of your achievements (just look at your many picture reports from Cebu) -- but you are not ready to learn. Even you said you did read many reports. But nothing arrived in your brain.

One bad apple does not really matter. Lets hope your time in NosyBe will teach you how to please les filles gasy in Mada. Ohh, yes. Most girls in your very very young target age are hardly speaking french. Learn malgache.

[QUOTE=Tinte;2838052] Les fleurs des Banananiers ils attendent. LOL.[/QUOTE]What's the story about Banana flowers? I'm french, and NEVER heard about this. I hope you don't say that to compliment a girl, as it's like you say: hey, nice pumpkin!

I don't know if you ever saw a banana tree flower, but it's big, violet and very ugly.

You'd better call your sweetie: bébé (pronouced bay-bay) or Mon Coeur (my heart, pronounced, mow keur -hard to translate with phonemes), or Chérie (like a cherry)

[QUOTE=NamasteParis;2838470]
You'd better call your sweetie: bb (pronouced bay-bay) or Mon Coeur (my heart, pronounced, mow keur -hard to translate with phonemes), or Chrie (like a cherry)[/QUOTE]Or malalako. Pronounced ma-la-la-ko.

It is what you put into it. We had this outcry bevor and I know what it looks like and I had it several times to eat.

To me it sounds very exotic erotic. Next time I will do a research on it what the girls think about it.

The banana stands for its own and the flower anyway. I have used the term several times and it did the job, ok, if you like put the success on the desperation of the girls. Besides on my good looking and being a charming handsome Guy anyway. LOL - Cash looking.

Thanks for the proper words in Malagasy.

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2838410]You like to boast of your achievements (just look at your many picture reports from Cebu) -- but you are not ready to learn. Even you said you did read many reports. But nothing arrived in your brain.

One bad apple does not really matter. Lets hope your time in NosyBe will teach you how to please les filles gasy in Mada. Ohh, yes. Most girls in your very very young target age are hardly speaking french. Learn malgache.[/QUOTE]Impressive. A 5000 $ shag. He did a 6 weeks tour of Kenya Rwanda and Madagascar and got laid CIP once. Of course if you know nothing better than Tinder and with zero french. But Americans think they can buy everything with money and play a bit in the internet. Not in Madagascar. Not in Africa. Wrong continent.

La Buse.

Legal resident of Isle Rouge.

Hi,

-There are nightclubs on Nosy BE?

-Are the girls who pay jealous? If, for example, we meet her at Taxi BE, we pay her and the next day she sees us with another girl at Taxi BE, how does she react?

-If we want to take the girl to do activities during the day, is it possible?

-Is it interesting to rent a scooter in Nosy BE?

Is it dangerous to ride a scooter during the day to visit Nosy Be?

-From Brussels, plane tickets are really expensive. Do you have any advice? It would be to go during the month of December.

Kinds regards,

Max.

[QUOTE=Mdemde;2838333]I was aware that English is not widely used in Madagascar, and was not expecting that the girls would be the same as in Angeles or Pattaya (or in the dozen or so other countries) where I have extensive mongering experience.

This is my first visit to Madagascar, and I came looking for a completely new experience.

I have walked the streets in Tana (and Nosy Be where I am currently staying) and met many girls. I also went to Glacier and de L'Independance in Tana and met many girls. But I am extremely choosy with girls and my normal target age is 18 to 19/20.

Did I overpay with the Tana girl? Maybe. For me, this girl was outside my target age, but she was, to me, ravishingly beautiful with a ravishingly beautiful and voluptuous body. Of course, prior to meeting her in real life I only had her pics to judge. When I did meet her I knew I had a diamond!

I was quite happy to pay what I did. If I was less choosy, I could have easily hooked up with a less beautiful girl and saved myself some money.

I joined ISG about 4 years ago, and prior to joining had not even considered mongering in Mada. Reading thru the posts in the Mada forum soon changed my mind. I noted the suggestions in the forum about the rates for sex with the girls, but this girl to me was worth the extra ra.[/QUOTE]Your report was good, and the girl was / is pretty, or at least sexy. Please add more reports if you you are still there.

There were discussion about overpaying. If somebody pays more to girl than me, I am just sad that I don't have as much money to spend. I am happy for the girl that she gets more money for her expenses. Then I wait for rich guy to leave so that I can try with my lower salary offer. And when visiting some place for short time, why not spend more money to get best girls and better service. Girls like tourists, they spend more money.

There were some writings that you should learn French or local language before coming there. That makes sense if staying there long time, but for short visit like this guy, come on. Google translate is very good, that or something similar Mdembe used also.

You put google translator to your phone, download local language and use the microphone option, girl talk to your phone and phone translate. I have successfully done business negotiations with Chinese and Vietnamese girls, girl don't need to know even write / read with this method.

When doing bareback, meaning sex without condom, you may get diseases. But even bigger danger in my opinion is that after couple months girl contacts you (if you left any contact info). Pregnancy!! Money needed for abortion. If you pay, then complications after abortion. Lot of pain and expensive hospital. All your fault, send more money.

This is very stressful situation. You are almost sure that girl is cheating you, but not 100% sure. If you don't pay, maybe you get a child which will live in very bad environment. So maybe better just in case pay.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2838539]Impressive. A 5000 $ shag. He did a 6 weeks tour of Kenya Rwanda and Madagascar and got laid CIP once. Of course if you know nothing better than Tinder and with zero french. But Americans think they can buy everything with money and play a bit in the internet. Not in Madagascar. Not in Africa. Wrong continent.

La Buse.

Legal resident of Isle Rouge.[/QUOTE]Each his own. The Germans teach and save all the world and the pensioners get stranded as a rotten pirate on tight budget. Good to hear you are still alive anyway, keep the spirit up.

[QUOTE=MxTH9;2838553]Hi,

-There are nightclubs on Nosy BE?

-Are the girls who pay jealous? If, for example, we meet her at Taxi BE, we pay her and the next day she sees us with another girl at Taxi BE, how does she react?

-If we want to take the girl to do activities during the day, is it possible?

-Is it interesting to rent a scooter in Nosy BE?

Is it dangerous to ride a scooter during the day to visit Nosy Be?[/QUOTE]Sure.

Swim.

LaBuse.

[QUOTE=Leblon;2838574]Your report was good, and the girl was / is pretty, or at least sexy. Please add more reports if you you are still there.

There were discussion about overpaying. If somebody pays more to girl than me, I am just sad that I don't have as much money to spend. I am happy for the girl that she gets more money for her expenses. Then I wait for rich guy to leave so that I can try with my lower salary offer. And when visiting some place for short time, why not spend more money to get best girls and better service. Girls like tourists, they spend more money.

There were some writings that you should learn French or local language before coming there. That makes sense if staying there long time, but for short visit like this guy, come on. Google translate is very good, that or something similar Mdembe used also.

You put google translator to your phone, download local language and use the microphone option, girl talk to your phone and phone translate. I have successfully done business negotiations with Chinese and Vietnamese girls, girl don't need to know even write / read with this method.[/QUOTE]Leblon. You're a nice guy. An expert on Mtwapa. But. You have no clue about Madagascar. Abortion? Why. Every malgache chica wants to have at least one baby. The more metisse the better. They long after your seed. I know plenty of chicas getting pregnant and the vazaha is long gone. Never pays an Ariary. In Madagaskar BB is standard. The Bara tribe in the south NEVER counts their cattle or their kids. Bad luck. So a mouth more to feed doesn't make a big difference. If you want to know about Malagasy culture read Arkady Fiedler. The Madagascar I love.

La Buse.

Legal resident of Isle Rouge.

I agree the girl Mdemde has flawless tits. Including all travel cost I'd say a 5000 $ shag. LOL.

[QUOTE=MxTH9;2838553]Hi,

-There are nightclubs on Nosy BE?

-Are the girls who pay jealous? If, for example, we meet her at Taxi BE, we pay her and the next day she sees us with another girl at Taxi BE, how does she react?

-If we want to take the girl to do activities during the day, is it possible?

-Is it interesting to rent a scooter in Nosy BE?

Is it dangerous to ride a scooter during the day to visit Nosy Be?

-From Brussels, plane tickets are really expensive. Do you have any advice? It would be to go during the month of December.

Kinds regards,

Max.[/QUOTE]How expensive are the flights? I am trying to come from the US and there are no flights less than $4000 USD. Really steep for a shag I think, LOL.

[QUOTE=Artvand1;2838678]How expensive are the flights? I am trying to come from the US and there are no flights less than $4000 USD. Really steep for a shag I think, LOL.[/QUOTE]I am paying less than thousand bucks from Germany. And it's not a direct flight so prepare to have many connecting flights if you want to save some dollars.

Once you are there it can be really cheap but be careful.

One girl offered me to stay at her place for free but it's in the middle of nowhere (Sakalalina) and I don't feel its safe. What if it is a setup and I am writing with a fake profile created by a thug.

And I still haven't learned how to articulate that I am looking for sex and not "just want to meet up".

Should I be upfront about it or not before meeting up?

I don't want to spend time, pay for dinner and then get rejected when it comes to sex because they expect friendship (happened in Kenya).

[QUOTE=DerTyperb;2838720]I am paying less than thousand bucks from Germany. And it's not a direct flight so prepare to have many connecting flights if you want to save some dollars.

Once you are there it can be really cheap but be careful.

One girl offered me to stay at her place for free but it's in the middle of nowhere (Sakalalina) and I don't feel its safe. What if it is a setup and I am writing with a fake profile created by a thug.

And I still haven't learned how to articulate that I am looking for sex and not "just want to meet up".

Should I be upfront about it or not before meeting up?

I don't want to spend time, pay for dinner and then get rejected when it comes to sex because they expect friendship (happened in Kenya).[/QUOTE]Thanks so much for the input. Truly appreciate it. I have a direct flight from my city to Frankfurt during Summer and Fall which is super cheap. I used to take this when I was wanted to go to FKKs LOL. May be a short stopover in Germany, do FKKs and then Mada would be great.

Damn, I thought asking a girl out meant sex LOL. May be not on the first, but atleast second or third LOL. Are you meeting them irl or through apps?

[QUOTE=Artvand1;2838678]How expensive are the flights? I am trying to come from the US and there are no flights less than $4000 USD. Really steep for a shag I think, LOL.[/QUOTE]That's why flights are expensive to keep overpaying people from the western hemisphere like you away.

La Buse.

Legal resident of Isle Rouge.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2838652]... If you want to know about Malagasy culture read Arkady Fiedler. The Madagascar I love.
[/QUOTE]I agree and it also shows the European mindset and attitude toward their colonial natives.

Here's an insightful quote:

"From time immemorial the Malagasy girls were allowed unlimited sexual freedom. The married women had one cardinal duty: to bear children. The question of loyalty to their husbands was secondary. But woe betide a widow who, after her husband's death, would sin by being unfaithful to his memory during the period of mourning! The mourning, assigned by the husband's family, lasted for a maliciously long time. The lonesome widow often became bored and sought some comfort in secret. If she were caught in the very act, her guilt was obvious; both she and her lover were sorcerers who had brought death upon the woman's husband. They were stoned to death. (This custom, seemingly so grotesque, had in fact a very reasonable background; generally speaking, not everything which seems incomprehensible, shocking or silly to Europeans, was indeed nonsensical. The severe period of mourning for the widow, decided by the husband's family was, as a matter of fact, only an insurance against attempts at poisoning by unfaithful wives; in Madagascar poison is within everybody's reach.)".

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2838812]That's why flights are expensive to keep overpaying people from the western hemisphere like you away.

La Buse.

Legal resident of Isle Rouge.[/QUOTE]You know nothing of me LOL. I always pay what folks here advice to pay. I don't overpay because I know that it will ruin it for the next guy. Even in my recent Costa Rica trip, I stuck to what the locals pay. Thanks for being helpful.

[QUOTE=Mdemde;2838320]For example, in Kenya I spent many hours on Tinder and managed to get some offers, but the prices they wanted for sex were exorbitant and they all insisted on condom use. Personally I don't use condoms and I turned them all down.

In the end, we didn't have sex, and I didn't get a BJ. I would rather not have sex at all than to have sex and use a condom, or for a BJ it has to be either a CIM or a cum swallow or not at all!

2 weeks in Kenya then 1 week in Rwanda and I never had sex with any of the locals! I had been more than 3 weeks without sex before meeting the Tana girl.[/QUOTE]Having sex only raw or none at all is a good mindset.

But going only online in Kenia was a mistake. In Mtwapa I never acquire girls online, that is really not necessary, as you just need to go outside. 75% of the girls I fuck raw without mentioning anything. The other 20% I fucked raw for additional 500 ksh or for promising to cum outside. Only about 5% was not on the BBFS Menu and I left them alone or BJ only.

So I wonder why you had such problems getting BBFS in Kenia. But maybe the online Girls are so different?

Tinder in Mombasa is a waste of time. Better face2 face.

I could bee tempted to order this book, since it is available in origin print for cheap. But of what kind of purpose would it bee?

Its a book first published in 1946 .

Would I advise somebody in the aim to understand my culture by reading such a old book? LOL!!

Somebody still living in the past I guess. Its entertaining fore sure like Storys of old rotten Pirates.

Sure there is always a essence of truth in all this storys to bee discovered. Mainly pure entertainment.

Again, the today reality is far from that.

I'm planning my first trip to Mada and I don't want to make the same mistakes I did in Kenya.

I stayed at the most luxurious and chained-brand hotels but I had problem with reception all the time.

(ID-check here, ID check there, pay visitor fee, how long is she staying, if she stays overnight you have to pay extra, only allowed to bring one girl no several, bla bla).

Bringing my girls in front of other hotel guests or staff was embarrassing and I've been under scrutiny all the time, especially if the hotels are mainly for family / business-oriented guests.

I am looking for discreet accommodation where there are no questions asked and I can bring as many girls I like.

I know some hotel in Tana where you can pass reception easily but for other locations like Tulear or Nosy Be I haven't found them in the reports.

I was thinking about bungalows or private AirBnbs where I can be left alone from any staff and have gangbangs and wild sex orgies.

Can you recommend any of these accommodations where this is possible? Nosy Be, Toamasina, Tulear.

I read that booking domestic flights early is a must, does that also apply to rooms because as Neddy says, Madagascar is an offline country.

[QUOTE=Mdemde;2837428]
I said I wanted to finish inside, and she turned me down. I said I really wanted to finish inside and asked a few more times, but each time she declined. I persisted and eventually she agreed but asked for 150k. I made an offer of 100k and she quickly agreed and we arranged a time for her to come to my hotel.
[/QUOTE]I appreciate the honest report. Some of the men (not all) here on this mada section seem to extremally xenophobic and imo against the spirit of this "english" speaking forum. The amount of posts throwing shade at you for being honest is embarrassing. They should be ashamed of themselves its a mark of an overly paranoid and psychotic person. I hope you continue to post trip reports and continue to create a market for "Americans". I'm glad that you did not censure your post as I am sure you understood the horde of disgruntled Frenchmen would come out of the wood work to post spam admonishing you. Takes courage to be honest now days and is gold if you can find it. I have a much better feel for the temperature in mada and what I will be walking into when I make it there good job for taking the leap, if I do make it there I will also post my honest take on it to return the favor. I didn't see it but did you mention what flight you took from the Philippines? I was considering flying to mada from MNL now that you have done it maybe an insight on the flight itself?

[QUOTE=Mdemde;2838320]
I had a coffee date with one girl in Mombasa whom I met via Tinder.
[/QUOTE]Just as a side note there has been an influx of Mada based Cam girls that poped up recently on some CAM girl websites that I have been chatting with an say they are willing to meet up. They also for the most part speak English which is interesting and kind of contrary to the information here. I have also tried afrointroductions and most of the malagasy women spoke SOME English. I have to think that since the more experienced mongers in Madagascar right now speak french or some malagasy, they really do not have a solid grasp over just how many "college" girls are now fluent in English. As my main demographic are "hot" college girls. These girls usually are educated and most of the mada based cam girls that have shown up are also going to university. So it seams like the university going population does infact speak English. There is an "English" based monger that is opening up some AirBnBs in nosybe and he also communicates in English with the locals. "Ministre de l'ducation Nationale et de l'Enseignement Technique et Professionnel " has made English free and compulsory for 6-11 year olds from what in can tell this started in or around 2013. So by the early 2030's we should see a major shift in language in Madagascar imo. These are the Early days for English mongering in this country. They seem to be gearing up to welcoming the English speaking community with their push for English fluency. Estimated English uptake is about 9-10% so that's more than 3 million malagasy English speakers. The one thing you can be certain of the "international" world over is change.

[URL]https://mg.usembassy.gov/u-s-embassy-improves-the-learning-environment-in-university-of-antananarivo-english-classrooms/[/URL]

[QUOTE=MontanaMonger;2839848]Just as a side note there has been an influx of Mada based Cam girls that poped up recently on some CAM girl websites that I have been chatting with an say they are willing to meet up. They also for the most part speak English which is interesting and kind of contrary to the information here. I have also tried afrointroductions and most of the malagasy women spoke SOME English. I have to think that since the more experienced mongers in Madagascar right now speak french or some malagasy, they really do not have a solid grasp over just how many "college" girls are now fluent in English. As my main demographic are "hot" college girls. These girls usually are educated and most of the mada based cam girls that have shown up are also going to university. So it seams like the university going population does infact speak English. There is an "English" based monger that is opening up some AirBnBs in nosybe and he also communicates in English with the locals. "Ministre de l'ducation Nationale et de l'Enseignement Technique et Professionnel " has made English free and compulsory for 6-11 year olds from what in can tell this started in or around 2013. So by the early 2030's we should see a major shift in language in Madagascar imo. These are the Early days for English mongering in this country. They seem to be gearing up to welcoming the English speaking community with their push for English fluency.[/QUOTE]This is not the Philippines. Forget everything that you do as an Angeles City king. Just show up, meet girls face to face, like you know you would have done with all the girlfriends you had in your home country in your youth. Also applies elsewhere in Africa.

[QUOTE=MontanaMonger;2839848]Just as a side note there has been an influx of Mada based Cam girls that poped up recently on some CAM girl websites that I have been chatting with an say they are willing to meet up. They also for the most part speak English which is interesting and kind of contrary to the information here. I have also tried afrointroductions and most of the malagasy women spoke SOME English. I have to think that since the more experienced mongers in Madagascar right now speak french or some malagasy, they really do not have a solid grasp over just how many "college" girls are now fluent in English. As my main demographic are "hot" college girls. These girls usually are educated and most of the mada based cam girls that have shown up are also going to university. So it seams like the university going population does infact speak English. There is an "English" based monger that is opening up some AirBnBs in nosybe and he also communicates in English with the locals. "Ministre de l'ducation Nationale et de l'Enseignement Technique et Professionnel " has made English free and compulsory for 6-11 year olds from what in can tell this started in or around 2013. So by the early 2030's we should see a major shift in language in Madagascar imo. These are the Early days for English mongering in this country. They seem to be gearing up to welcoming the English speaking community with their push for English fluency. Estimated English uptake is about 9-10% so that's more than 3 million malagasy English speakers. The one thing you can be certain of the "international" world over is change.

[URL]https://mg.usembassy.gov/u-s-embassy-improves-the-learning-environment-in-university-of-antananarivo-english-classrooms/[/URL][/QUOTE]Afrointroduction, Web cam sites, AirBnB in Nosy Be, higher education in Mada: you have no clue abut this country!

There exists French influence since 1896. The target of smart college girls is certainly not the US but to work in France. Yes, some people in the tourism industry speak english. But more do speak italian. And many do speak Malgache only. Because they have no access to a school at all.

I give you a hint: put your dating profile with your hometown on the website Vidamora (full of Mada girls). I challenge you that you won't get "likes" due to your country and in addition you won't be able to contact most of the girls because of that country of residence: girls can select the country from where they like to find a date.

Get real. Go there, watch the line of Chinese warehouses, hotels, construction sides and factories once you drive into Tana from the airport. Or look at one of the biggest hotel in NosyBe: Chinese owned. Mauritius (Vanille, garments), China, the Netherlands and France are main investors in the country. US plays a very minor role.

Please don't make assumptions here without facts.

From my last trip I would say your assumptions about English are overblown. The vast majority can't.

Even afford school let alone university. I met a girl in Diego. Second year law student. Spoke great french. Maybe 5 words of English. So much for the college girls!

They do not speak Chinese either, so what? There are many ways to overcome the language barrier with ease as Pokeris demonstrated.

If any guy does not fit in, he will realize that soon enough with various obstacles confronted.

Again some of the generalized nasty assumptions of a few forum members about the anglo- americans peopel a wrong in the first place.

Think about it, by the way be reminded: you are guests only too and it puts your country of origin in a rather poor light again.

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2839984]
...Yes, some people in the tourism industry speak english....

...I give you a hint: put your dating profile with your hometown on the website Vidamora (full of Mada girls). I challenge you that you won't get "likes" due to your country and in addition you won't be able to contact most of the girls because of that country of residence: girls can select the country from where they like to find a date....

...Please don't make assumptions here without facts....[/QUOTE]An assumption is something you make without facts. "as·sump·tion: a thing that is accepted as true or as certain to happen, without proof. " It is literally what that means. To make an assumption based on facts wouldn't be an assumption. I notice that the French tend to say that like to not make assumptions (without facts) I digress but that is the reason why I bother to research this at all is to go in with a better realistic understanding of what to expect when boots hit the ground.

Thank you actually for the tip I did sign up for Vidamora and have come across, you may have ment it as a deterrent but more than a few English speaking Malagasy women. Like I said since French speakers lead with French that is not really a test of how prevalent English is. I did see some restrictions on messaging some of the girls but it mostly was for only Madagascar. I just think that these girls don't know that it is possible to date an American guy so its not something they focus on as this becomes more of a reality their expectations will change. I honestly have had better luck on facebook / instagram / tiktok than Vidamora finding English speaking Malagasy women.

On the topic of camgirls Johntron from AsianSexDiary AND I have had great success having sex with Camgirls in other countries, propositioning camgirls is actually a pretty easy way to meet no nonsense girls that are just in it for money.

I never used a dating-platform at home for the very same reason, I am very social, easy talking to any girls. To use one in Afrika is very likely to bee fatal. Why ist that?

I did take a look at it. My assessment:

Most of the so called girls are old mutton, do you fancy that?

The attractive jung ones are pros likely to bee a dangerous lady snakes.

Fatal if your Handicap limits you to the platform in the first place where you get in touch to the girls you likely can not handle in konsequent.

Total NO GO to me! But I like to read the honest failure of the practice here in the Forum.

I like your explanation of assumption.

You do exactly the same assumption about the "French mongers" , without knowing the facts about them.

By exactly the same self experienced of similar circumstances you are telling, a experienced Mada monger knows quite the outcome based on the known " the facts " of what your doing on the ground in Mada.

[QUOTE=Tinte;2840160]
You do exactly the same assumption about the "French mongers" , without knowing the facts about them.
[/QUOTE]This is true and I do make some assumptions as it were however they (the french mongers) assume that women will not be interested in Americans, I do not believe this to be true. Saying that a lack of Madagascar culture puts Americans at some kind of disadvantage when offering money for sex is kind of questionable. I could see this happening if no money was being exchanged but not in the case of paid sex. I am not looking to find a wife or a girlfriend. So I am not really interested in learning about Madagascar, understanding it or their culture for that matter this is really a nonstarter. All I am after is sex with women I find attractive and Malagasy women have sparked my interest.

The beauty of offering women money for sex is that it is an equalizer which is in the spirit of this forum. But I will explain why social media is a valid way to find women. I offer women bounties if they will introduce me to women they know who are in need of a "sponsor". So while the women who put themselves on these dating sites are "old mutton" like you put it their friends are "prime rib". I use these women as agents more than for just the women themselves. I will admit that this is a new country for me but this method has served me well. This method also ensures I am speaking to a women who understands English and the need to understand Madagascar culture also is nullified.

[QUOTE=MontanaMonger;2840208]...... and the need to understand Madagascar culture also is nullified.[/QUOTE]That says all. The forum's rule do restrict me to comment.

Bonne chance. Tu vas te faire plumer.

[QUOTE=Tinte;2840086]
If any guy does not fit in, he will realize that soon enough with various obstacles confronted.
[/QUOTE]Do you mind elaborating on this? Is it race-specific? What kind of obstacles can one face? Any input is greatly appreciated.

First of all the professional girls like the cash and it does not matter what currency, that's what you are manly going for.

Many of the ordinary have the dream to get a French or a Belgian guy and move to Europe where People speak French. Swiss manly French part, Germans, and Austrians also accepted. To send money home.

Then the acceptance drops dramatically.

The real Mada mongers only, are basically scared you change the Mada- to the Pattaya-system with your attitude of what they assume you have. So the try hard to piss you off.

Actually they try to piss off everybody, to have the place for them self unchanged as it was. The Madagascar I love by.

[QUOTE=Artvand1;2840259]Do you mind elaborating on this? Is it race-specific? What kind of obstacles can one face? Any input is greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]Things like: Crime, absence of law and order in many regions, food poisoning, sanitary conditions, confrontation with dramatic poverty, general miss-comfort, power cuts, absence of real health infrastructure, etc.

[QUOTE=Artvand1;2840259]Do you mind elaborating on this? Is it race-specific? What kind of obstacles can one face? Any input is greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]I think he means culture shock.

Try to date a conservative and religious arab girl as a Westerner, very hard, almost impossible.

I think it comes down on how open minded the society in the country is but the differences are there nevertheless.

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2840230]
Bonne chance. Tu vas te faire plumer.[/QUOTE]Is this a threat? I really don't want to believe these are threats but they sound like they are. Please elaborate.

Some very odd choices on this section of the international "sex" guide (the people who take the time to visit these boards are doing so as allies) this kind of prejudice or racism is this just with the handful of men here or is this really that hostile in Madagascar for "Americans"? Two English speaking mongers I know of JhonTron made a series of videos a few years back and "PASSIVE NOMADS" on youtube don't seem to run into nor mention this raging prejudice and / or racism people here seem to think Americans will run into. JhonTron has been in some pretty rough places but did not make mention any of this hostility in this reports.

[QUOTE=Tinte;2840260]First of all the professional girls like the cash and it does not matter what currency, that's what you are manly going for.
[/QUOTE]The fact that we come here for knowledge and advice shows that we are at least trying to be considerate.

I appreciate your explanation because it is more what I thought I would expect from mada. I was never under the impression that I would land in mada as an expert, so whatever I learn here is invaluable. Thank you for taking the time to explain.

[QUOTE=MontanaMonger;2840322]Is this a threat? I really don't want to believe these are threats but they sound like they are. Please elaborate.

Some very odd choices on this section of the international "sex" guide (the people who take the time to visit these boards are doing so as allies) this kind of prejudice or racism is this just with the handful of men here or is this really that hostile in Madagascar for "Americans"? Two English speaking mongers I know of JhonTron made a series of videos a few years back and "PASSIVE NOMADS" on youtube don't seem to run into nor mention this raging prejudice and / or racism people here seem to think Americans will run into. JhonTron has been in some pretty rough places but did not make mention any of this hostility in this reports.[/QUOTE]Agree with you here. We come here seeking advice or some input. Some folks have been kind enough and I truly appreciate it. But surprised by some of the hostility and downright racist attitude by some folks. If they are not willing to help that's fine, but this kind of behaviour is really uncalled for.

I met a girl one night down at the main bar area in Ambatoloaka in Nosy Be, bought her a drink then (using the google translate app) asked prices. I asked her how much she wanted for s/t and she said it was up to me so I offered 20k and she agreed. She made no attempt to try and up the price with a higher counter offer.

I told her I was looking for a threesome and she showed me a pic of her friend. I offered the same price for her friend and she agreed. She actually used the app on my phone to confirm that is was 20k each girl and I told her yes, 20k each.

I arranged a meet them near my hotel last Saturday afternoon. They turned up on time and we went back to my hotel.

After we had finished I went to pay them and as agreed, gave each girl 20k.

Then the fun started. They told me they wanted 200k each!!

I spent the next 5 or 10 minutes trying to get them to see reason, told the main girl we agreed 20k each and showed her the conversation exchange we had in the google translate app which keeps a history of translation requests. But it was like trying to reason with a plank of wood. They then came down to wanting 60k each!

At that point I told them the conversation was over, that they had been paid as agreed and that they had to leave but they refused. I told them I was going to get the hotel security and have them escorted out but they just shook their heads and sat down on the bed.

So I went down to see the hotel management and explained what had happened and asked if they could get security to remove them. I was told security only work nights but they said they would get two maintenance men to go up to the room and have a word with them.

I went back to the room and two minutes later the two maintenance men came in and had a few words with the girls. I don't know what the two guys said to the girls but barely a minute later the girls quietly got up and left the room. Then they were escorted out of the hotel, no back chat, no shouting, no loud voices, drama thankfully over!

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2838410]You like to boast of your achievements (just look at your many picture reports from Cebu) [/QUOTE]Boast?? In what way am I boasting?! Yes I have posted many pic reports from Cebu but not to boast. Every day a lot of other posters post pics of girls, are they all boasting?

I like to read reports from other posters and also enjoy looking at the pics they post, and hope other posters also enjoy looking at my pics!

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2838539]Impressive. A 5000 $ shag. He did a 6 weeks tour of Kenya Rwanda and Madagascar and got laid CIP once. Of course if you know nothing better than Tinder and with zero french. But Americans think they can buy everything with money and play a bit in the internet. Not in Madagascar. Not in Africa. Wrong continent.

La Buse.

Legal resident of Isle Rouge.[/QUOTE]Nothing like a good sneer, eh?!

I'm actually English, not American, same language but different accents!

[QUOTE=Mdemde;2840690]
After we had finished I went to pay them and as agreed, gave each girl 20k.

Then the fun started. They told me they wanted 200k each!!

I spent the next 5 or 10 minutes trying to get them to see reason, told the main girl we agreed 20k each and showed her the conversation exchange we had in the google translate app which keeps a history of translation requests. But it was like trying to reason with a plank of wood. They then came down to wanting 60k each!
[/QUOTE]Good job sticking to your guns this is invaluable information any other insights you have on the nosybe scene is appreciated. How much are the drinks? What is the selection of ladies like at night in the bar area? Great report, keep them coming if you can thanks!

[QUOTE=MontanaMonger;2839844]I appreciate the honest report. Some of the men (not all) here on this mada section seem to extremally xenophobic and imo against the spirit of this "english" speaking forum. The amount of posts throwing shade at you for being honest is embarrassing. They should be ashamed of themselves its a mark of an overly paranoid and psychotic person. I hope you continue to post trip reports and continue to create a market for "Americans". I'm glad that you did not censure your post as I am sure you understood the horde of disgruntled Frenchmen would come out of the wood work to post spam admonishing you. Takes courage to be honest now days and is gold if you can find it. I have a much better feel for the temperature in mada and what I will be walking into when I make it there good job for taking the leap, if I do make it there I will also post my honest take on it to return the favor. I didn't see it but did you mention what flight you took from the Philippines? I was considering flying to mada from MNL now that you have done it maybe an insight on the flight itself?[/QUOTE]I've also noticed the sneering!

I flew from Mactan-Cebu to Dubai with Emirates, as I live in Cebu City it's very convenient for me. The outward flight from Mactan-Cebu makes a brief stop in Clark on the way out before heading off to Dubai but the inward flight is non-stop Dubai to Mactan-Cebu.

In Dubai there was a layover / change of plane then a direct flight to Nairobi. I used Nairobi as a hub and flew with Kenya Airways to Mombasa, to Rwanda and to Madagascar. Internal flights in Madagascar were with Madagascar Airlines.

[QUOTE=Mdemde;2840700]I've also noticed the sneering!

I flew from Mactan-Cebu to Dubai with Emirates, as I live in Cebu City it's very convenient for me. The outward flight from Mactan-Cebu makes a brief stop in Clark on the way out before heading off to Dubai but the inward flight is non-stop Dubai to Mactan-Cebu.

In Dubai there was a layover / change of plane then a direct flight to Nairobi. I used Nairobi as a hub and flew with Kenya Airways to Mombasa, to Rwanda and to Madagascar. Internal flights in Madagascar were with Madagascar Airlines.[/QUOTE]What did you pay for the flights? I know that when I was looking it was not cheap. I also also considering Nairobi, I'm glad this worked out for you I may also go this route. So you flew into Antananarivo and then a domestic flight to Nosybe? How exactly did you book the nosybe flight, I saw some information here that its is not easy to book an online domestic flight? I know that some people go in person to the airline office there in Antananarivo. But did you do this online? Lastly What currency did you use coming from cebu for the visa USD or EUROS? Sorry for the barrage of questions but your experience would be very similar to mine.

[QUOTE=Mdemde;2840694]Nothing like a good sneer, eh?!

I'm actually English, not American, same language but different accents![/QUOTE]Ah. I apologize.

La Buse.

Legal resident of Isle Rouge.

[QUOTE=MontanaMonger;2840704]What did you pay for the flights? I know that when I was looking it was not cheap. I also also considering Nairobi, I'm glad this worked out for you I may also go this route. So you flew into Antananarivo and then a domestic flight to Nosybe? How exactly did you book the nosybe flight, I saw some information here that its is not easy to book an online domestic flight? I know that some people go in person to the airline office there in Antananarivo. But did you do this online? Lastly What currency did you use coming from cebu for the visa USD or EUROS? Sorry for the barrage of questions but your experience would be very similar to mine.[/QUOTE]I actually flew business with Emirates. It was USD3,065. There was a 9 hour layover in Dubai and the price included a free night stay in a 4 star hotel about a 15 minute drive from the airport, and a chauffeur driven car for transport (I'm not sure if the free hotel option is available in economy class). By the time I got out of the airport and into the hotel and had a shower, and allowing for time to get back to the airport the next morning I only got about 4 or 5 hours sleep. But it was still better than lounging about at the airport for 9 hours. There was a free buffet breakfast at the hotel in the morning but I skipped it and instead had the free breakfast at the airport in the Emirates lounge.

For the return flight going back to Cebu (Nairobi / Dubai / Cebu), there is only a 4 hour layover at Dubai so not enough time for a night at a hotel.

All the other flights were short flights so I went economy.

I booked and paid for all 4 internal Madagascar domestic flights online before I left Cebu, there was no trouble making the bookings. Try this link;.

[URL]https://madagascarairlines.com/en/index.html[/URL]

There is an option to pay in either local currency or in Euro.

Yes I flew into Antananarivo from Nairobi via Kenya Airways, and then a domestic flight to Nosy Be with Madagascar Airlines. I had 4 domestic flights in Madagascar. Antananarivo (Tana) to Nosy Be return and Tana to Toamasina return.

I bought some USD and some Euros in Cebu before I left, but honestly can't remember what currency I used to get my visa when I arrived in Tana.

[QUOTE=MontanaMonger;2840698]Good job sticking to your guns this is invaluable information any other insights you have on the nosybe scene is appreciated. How much are the drinks? What is the selection of ladies like at night in the bar area? Great report, keep them coming if you can thanks![/QUOTE]Beers are about 7k or 8k (less than USD2). The main bar area in Ambatoloaka in Nosy Be is actually quite small but there is a very good selection of 'ladies of the night' floating around either sitting in the bars or hanging around in front of the bars waiting for an approach from a man. Sometimes they will approach you. There are also ladies wandering around the beach after dark offering various services. Saturday night at the bar area seems to be the busiest. The majority of men I saw there were White Europeans, mostly French, though one night I saw two African-American men heading down to the bar area. At no time did I (as an English speaker) face any hostility from the girls or from any restaurant or hotel staff, or from any of the locals.

As an English speaking visitor in a Francophone country, a few words in French 'bonjour, c'est vas?' or 'bonsoir, c'est vas?' and a smile is always a good way to start a conversation, before following it up with 'je ne parle pas Francais!' There are some English speaking staff in the hotels and restaurants, and some girls do speak a little bit of English, but having something like the google translate app on your phone is a must.

I got talking with an English-speaking French guy at my hotel in Nosy Be who had heard about the problem I had with the 2 girls. He said he had been living there for about 12 years and that 50k is really the bare minimum you should be offering the girls.

I stayed at a hotel in Ambatoloaka in Nosy Be, and I went to Hell-Ville one day for a wander round (about a 30 minute ride away). I couldn't find any action there though just after dark I encountered 4 or 5 freelancers in 'Rue Pierre ler' which is a small side road just a few minutes walk south of the main market area, but they were a bit on the rough side. I also went up to Andilana beach on a day trip, it's about a 45 minute ride north of Ambatoloaka beach. The beach there is beautiful, but the road there from Ambatoloaka is a terrible road full of potholes and bumps and unpaved sections of road. There does not appear to be any action at Andilana beach.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2840924]Ah. I apologize.

La Buse.

Legal resident of Isle Rouge.[/QUOTE]Apology accepted!

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2840924]Ah. I apologize.

La Buse.

Legal resident of Isle Rouge.[/QUOTE]It's getting kind of absurde, misguided by wrong personal assumption. LOL.

[QUOTE=Mdemde;2841241]
Yes I flew into Antananarivo from Nairobi via Kenya Airways, and then a domestic flight to Nosy Be with Madagascar Airlines. I had 4 domestic flights in Madagascar. Antananarivo (Tana) to Nosy Be return and Tana to Toamasina return.[/QUOTE]I'm glad that the hostility warnings were untrue about someone who didn't know the "REAL mada" on their first arrival. I'm glad this has worked out for you.

I wonder what the "African-American" men did about the language barrier.

Thank you for flight information from phils saves me a lot of research.

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2840230]That says all. The forum's rule do restrict me to comment.

Bonne chance. Tu vas te faire plumer.[/QUOTE]This was unnecessary to say the least.

Madagascar is great. But like anything else it gets better when you understand it better!

God bless America.

BS: Official resident!

I must remind you I don't take anything but normal regular girls. So I have no knowledge of the p4 p cost.

I know zero french and I'm learning malagasy language and culture because I'm a resident now! And I'm getting exponential results!

God bless America.

BS: Legal resident!

[QUOTE=BrasilSoccer0;2841377]I must remind you I don't take anything but normal regular girls. So I have no knowledge of the p4 p cost.

I know zero french and I'm learning malagasy language and culture because I'm a resident now! And I'm getting exponential results!

God bless America.

BS: Legal resident![/QUOTE]To learn Malagasy is sort of waste of time. Which dialect? A mate of mine speaks east coast dialect. Now he lives on west coast. Nobody understands him there. The predominantly dialect is Merina in the haute plateau. But they don't like that dialect on coast. And the administrative language is french. Learn French first and basic Malagasy should suffice. I don't bother learn beyond that. Why? Outside Madagascar malagasy is of zero use. I learn Kiswahili. That makes sense.

La Buse.

Legal resident of Isle Rouge.

[QUOTE=BrasilSoccer0;2841377]
I know zero french and I'm learning malagasy language and culture because I'm a resident now! And I'm getting exponential results!
[/QUOTE]Right, learning Malagasy is obviously the best choice when trying to get to know the "REAL Madagascar". To be totally honest I am not interested in anything French if it will somehow get me closer to some Malagasy women I may entertain learning some French, but one does not typically learn a countries 2nd language to get a better understanding of it. If I go to Madagascar and it clicks with me I of course will spend sometime investing in the culture but for a 2-4 week visit seems like a fools errand. Glad to hear you are having success.

[QUOTE=MontanaMonger;2841393]... but for a 2-4 week visit seems like a fools errand. Glad to hear you are having success.[/QUOTE]At a minimum:

Bonsoir, mademoiselle.

Combien?

O est le...?

Merci beaucoup.

Je t'aime!

Laisse moi t'embrasser.

Je veux te baiser!

The start of the French colonization of Madagaskar.

[QUOTE=Mdemde;2840690]They turned up on time and we went back to my hotel.

...

I went back to the room and two minutes later the two maintenance men came in and had a few words with the girls. I don't know what the two guys said to the girls but barely a minute later the girls quietly got up and left the room. Then they were escorted out of the hotel, no back chat, no shouting, no loud voices, drama thankfully over![/QUOTE]That seems to be the hotel I was looking for: You can take two girls at the same time to you room. And if there are problems they help you!

What was the name of your hotel?

I am in Nosy Be-Ambatoloaka currently and the place is full of girls and not so many punters. The one I picked on my first night has latched on by giving me her anal virginity on the 2nd day and sleeping with me and another girl on the 3rd day. Money was never talked, so I am not sure if they are full pros or not but I give them pocket change in the morning and they seem happy and don't want to leave and we go to the beach together and have lazy impromptu sex all the time, which is about the only thing to do here. The drag has been the intermitent power cuts and I a digestive track disturbance I caught not sure if from water, food, or licking them.

I.

I go to the beach with the girls, but it gets boring here fast.

Is there another forum member currently around here who would like to have a beer with me? I usually go down to Taxi Be around 10.

I went out for meal on my last night in Nosy Be, and chose a restaurant that I had yet to visit. I got talking (via the google translate app) with one of the waitresses and I arranged to meet her after the restaurant closed at 10pm. She is 25 with a 16-month-old baby boy. We met up and went out for a late meal, then I asked her to come and stay with me that night, she agreed and we went back to my hotel. I asked her what time she had to leave, she said 8am which was fine by me. Just before we went to sleep she asked me if I could help her to buy something for her son, I said yes and we would discuss it in the morning.

She left the next morning just before 8am, and before she left I offered her 50k to 'help buy some clothes' for her son. She smiled, and sweetly asked if I could help a bit more. I offered another 20k and her face lit up, and she whispered "merci beaucoup" as I handed her the money. Did I overpay? I don't think so.

It was a very memorable last night in Nosy Be.

I was in Madagascar for about 3 weeks. It was my first visit and obviously not enough time to find the 'real' Madagascar, but I really had a great time (despite being an English guy who does NOT speak French!) and met some really nice girls.

After I left Nosy Be I went to Toa and Tana for a few days and had a nice session with a girl in Toa, I'll post some more pics in a few days.

[QUOTE=Tanatos2000;2842249]That seems to be the hotel I was looking for: You can take two girls at the same time to you room. And if there are problems they help you!

What was the name of your hotel?[/QUOTE]It was the Maison Ylang hotel in Ambatoloaka.

But I suggest you confirm their visitor policy BEFORE you make a booking. After the little 'drama' I had with the 2 girls, they told me they will be reviewing their visitor policy.

[QUOTE=MontanaMonger;2841304]I'm glad that the hostility warnings were untrue about someone who didn't know the "REAL mada" on their first arrival. I'm glad this has worked out for you.

I wonder what the "African-American" men did about the language barrier.

Thank you for flight information from phils saves me a lot of research.[/QUOTE]You are most welcome.

I don't know about the African-Americans, I doubt they spoke French, my guess is that they also used a translate app.

[QUOTE=Romeu4;2842742]
a digestive track disturbance I caught not sure if from water, food, or licking them.

.[/QUOTE]I have never been to Mada but you more than likely got your tummy trouble from the water. I always got dodgy tummy when travelling years back (ruins everything) but I cured this by boosting my immune system prior to departure. Carry immune system boosting supplements. The food is cooked in untreated water, stick to bottled water and don't use ice blocks in your drinks.

All the best.

[QUOTE=Mdemde;2842782]

I was in Madagascar for about 3 weeks. It was my first visit and obviously not enough time to find the 'real' Madagascar, but I really had a great time (despite being an English guy who does NOT speak French!) and met some really nice girls.
.[/QUOTE]That's what is all about for a monger.

Ever since my first visit I read and watched a lot about Madagascar and I am more and more convinced that I am not interested to experience what some in the community call, refer to " the real Madagascar " .

I get the feeling newcomers like me are having a hard time getting some answers they need.

I've been a guest for since 2018 on this forum and a registered member for 2 years.

Finally I made the choice to pay for a membership to communicate with fellow members, but to be honest it hasn't paid off.

All of my posts and questions in this thread have been ignored without response, also private messages I wrote to other forum members.

I will travel to Madagascar very soon and I could write my first reports that I can share here.

But the more time passes I'm getting more and more disappointed by the community because I feel the negative attitude towards new forum members who are just starting out with mongering and can't compete against the real OG's (senior members) of this forum.

Also, if you read the last 5 pages alone you get the sense of bitterness, too many hate comments instead of constructive discussions.

I know it's all about status for you, but please be open to others and offer help. Otherwise, what's the point of this site. If insiders keep all the valuable information and secrets themselves, what do I need a forum for.

I want to contribute to this forum and write reports to help others out after my upcoming trip, but again, who should I contribute to, if everyone is acting like they are too important to reply.

Please don't destroy internationalsexguide. NL and bring back the times 2018-2019 where people would actually help out another.

Thank you.

[QUOTE=DerTyperb;2843118]I get the feeling newcomers like me are having a hard time getting some answers they need.

I've been a guest for since 2018 on this forum and a registered member for 2 years.

Finally I made the choice to pay for a membership to communicate with fellow members, but to be honest it hasn't paid off.

All of my posts and questions in this thread have been ignored without response, also private messages I wrote to other forum members.

I will travel to Madagascar very soon and I could write my first reports that I can share here.

But the more time passes I'm getting more and more disappointed by the community because I feel the negative attitude towards new forum members who are just starting out with mongering and can't compete against the real OG's (senior members) of this forum.

Also, if you read the last 5 pages alone you get the sense of bitterness, too many hate comments instead of constructive discussions.

I know it's all about status for you, but please be open to others and offer help. Otherwise, what's the point of this site. If insiders keep all the valuable information and secrets themselves, what do I need a forum for.

I want to contribute to this forum and write reports to help others out after my upcoming trip, but again, who should I contribute to, if everyone is acting like they are too important to reply.

Please don't destroy internationalsexguide. NL and bring back the times 2018-2019 where people would actually help out another.

Thank you.[/QUOTE]All information that you need is already in the thread so start by reading it from page 1 to last page. No one will give you anything on a silver platter. Always remember that the people frequenting this forum belong to the very bottom of the morale scale so do not get your hopes up. People that need to pay for sex in one of the poorest countries in the world tend do have anti social behaviour also.

[QUOTE=DerTyperb;2843118]I get the feeling newcomers like me are having a hard time getting some answers they need.

I've been a guest for since 2018 on this forum and a registered member for 2 years.

Finally I made the choice to pay for a membership to communicate with fellow members, but to be honest it hasn't paid off.

All of my posts and questions in this thread have been ignored without response, also private messages I wrote to other forum members.

I will travel to Madagascar very soon and I could write my first reports that I can share here.

But the more time passes I'm getting more and more disappointed by the community because I feel the negative attitude towards new forum members who are just starting out with mongering and can't compete against the real OG's (senior members) of this forum.

Also, if you read the last 5 pages alone you get the sense of bitterness, too many hate comments instead of constructive discussions.

I know it's all about status for you, but please be open to others and offer help. Otherwise, what's the point of this site. If insiders keep all the valuable information and secrets themselves, what do I need a forum for.

I want to contribute to this forum and write reports to help others out after my upcoming trip, but again, who should I contribute to, if everyone is acting like they are too important to reply.

Please don't destroy internationalsexguide. NL and bring back the times 2018-2019 where people would actually help out another.

Thank you.[/QUOTE]But people do help each other. But we don't like people who don't RTFF first and then asking the same question the umpteenth time. Madagascar is for advanced Africa operators. This is no place for Pattaya and Filipino warriors. Equally there's people ignorant and insistent and they know better. So they will not receive an answer from the few Madagascar vets. Madagascar is no place for starting mongers. I wrote the umpteenth time. Fly to Kenya first if you have never mongered in subsaharan Africa before. Read my 1300 posts. Use the search function. Again the umpteenth time. Learn basic french. The most important. Forget your western education. Subsaharan Africa is different. And again Madagascar is different again. As for me I landed the first time in Nairobi 2012. I'm not a tourist by definition. I m a traveller. For a tourist with deep pockets who shags a 27 year old waitress in Nosy Be I agree. You don't need anything except Google translate if you limit your stay to 2 weeks. After that boredom as a non french speaker will set in unless you encounter the odd English speaker. Nobody will talk to you. As simple as that.

So if you have a couple of 1000 dollars on airfare to burn to shag an old waitress in Nosy Be by all means. Go ahead.

La Buse.

Legal Resident of Isle Rouge.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2838652]Leblon. You're a nice guy. An expert on Mtwapa. But. You have no clue about Madagascar. Abortion? Why. Every malgache chica wants to have at least one baby. The more metisse the better. They long after your seed. I know plenty of chicas getting pregnant and the vazaha is long gone. Never pays an Ariary. In Madagaskar BB is standard. The Bara tribe in the south NEVER counts their cattle or their kids. Bad luck. So a mouth more to feed doesn't make a big difference. If you want to know about Malagasy culture read Arkady Fiedler. The Madagascar I love.
[/QUOTE]Interesting post. Thank you!

This seems like what I experienced in the Philippines. The standard of beauty is a mixed race person, so you can meet some girls who really want have a child with you. You can also find lesbian couples looking for a sperm donor, who prefer a foreigner. Are Malagasy girls as crazy about kids as Filipinas? Are single mums common?

Put in to get out. A member since 2018, five years, seven posts. In this time period one can assume you have made at lest ten trips wherever and most importantly no feedback on your experiences, all info gleaned from those who have taken the time to share.

Your effort and feedback?

This Forum is great as I said bevor and I get sick and tired of repeating my self with that statement.

It is great because all you need to know is already written down. RDFF - .

The climate or the tone in the forum wich I myself criticized is just what it has to bee expected in Mada from some of its new residents.

Take it as your training ground do not bee a Wimp or stay better at home.

Over and out.

[QUOTE=AfAsia;2843257]Put in to get out. A member since 2018, five years, seven posts. In this time period one can assume you have made at lest ten trips wherever and most importantly no feedback on your experiences, all info gleaned from those who have taken the time to share.

Your effort and feedback?[/QUOTE]Fact is, I have been read-only most of the time because I didn't have the opportunity to go on trips because of financial reasons.

Last trip to Kenya has been terrible for me so I could only write a negative report. I brought some girls in but I didn't have sexual intercourse so I wrote it off as a "failed trip" because of some mistakes I made.

And I never traveled to Madagascar previously so I have nothing to report.

That's why I am hopeful to get answers before my trip to make a good report afterwards and contribute myself.

Does that makes sense to you?

[QUOTE=AfAsia;2843257]Put in to get out. A member since 2018, five years, seven posts. In this time period one can assume you have made at lest ten trips wherever and most importantly no feedback on your experiences, all info gleaned from those who have taken the time to share.

Your effort and feedback?[/QUOTE]Absolutely agree!

Blaming others is a form of emotional avoidance.

Most of his questions can either be answered by common sense (even Google is common sense) or already answered earlier in this thread.

The present problem however of this Mada thread is that within last year so many inexperienced newcomers to this former French colony appear out of nowhere but having a big mouth of knowing everything and doing all better than the "old hands."

It results the "old hands" getting tired to input their advise. Let it be.

Sometimes I get the feeling that some disappointed guys quoted by their expectations in the forum are so slug-brained, are that lame they need the help to get on top of a girl in Mada at last too. LOL.

Cheap Flight booked and payed.

I'm planning a trip to Madagascar. I'm new here thus I have experience mongering in other countries. Only Senegal from Africa to taste black pussy.

My question is that I have been making a distance searching entering in some "dating" sites packed of Madagascar chicks looking for "love". I did not loose my time and directly offered money for pussy. 90 x 100 answered of course. When and where. Rest politely answered that were looking and stable relationship. The other hit is that most of them accepted do barebacking sex without problem. I'm in my 50's. Have large mongering experience but on my lasts years I prefer bareback fun. I assume my responsibility.

Is there anybody who can confirm me that? Or only is the classical strategy to say yes to everybody and when you are naked and hot begin to say excuses?

Just as curiosity. One of the teenagers who I spoke offered me her viriginity to sell. I only enjoyed a virgin pussy when I was also a teenager. So it will be a great pleasure to remember old times if this girl did not try to lie to me.

" They long after your seed. I know plenty of chicas getting pregnant and the vazaha is long gone. ".

Like other newbies.

I'm not calling myself a expert. Mada is a BB place, that's fact.

Well you may bee clever shag on Prep and get a nasty souvenir after you return home like the other expert. Some souvenirs can bee lifetime by the way, like genital herpes.

If you about to produce offspring, bear in mind that according to one credible source of information, your child and his mother will likely not be supportet by her clan nor by a local new boyfriend. Some clans might bee more tolerant, but it is not the general rule, that's often resulting a life sentence for both of them the mother and your child.

During my visit I came across of one guy ho now gets his bills monthly.

Each his own.

[QUOTE=Tottem;2843210] Always remember that the people frequenting this forum belong to the very bottom of the morale scale so do not get your hopes up. People that need to pay for sex in one of the poorest countries in the world tend do have anti social behaviour also.[/QUOTE]LMFAO, oh my god, this is hysterical. I am still laughing minutes later. Thank you, thank you, thank you Tottem for these remarkable words of wisdom! Hysterical.

I started writing this message several days ago after a particular exchange, but got side tracked, and now the recent discussion this past few days instigated by Dear DerTyperb made me come back to it. I don't contribute much anymore, but every once and a while I just marvel over much of the swill that is exchanged on this forum. So many experts that are quick to criticize others and tell the absolute truth about Madagascar and their people, as if they have god-given understanding and are prophets of the land.

I wonder if our pirate friend La Buse should instead go by Levasseur's other nickname "La Bouche". (ok, wait for it, wait for it, I know its coming, I'll just wait for it).

Anyway, yes some French is helpful. Malagasy even better. Kudos to you BrasilSoccer for learning Malagasy!! And cool that you have taken up residence! More French expats that live there for years or decades should do the same, it is only respectful. And yes, there are dialects throughout the island, but not so distinct that people cannot understand each other. I have close friends from Toliara, Nosy Be and Tana, and they all experience the same thing out of their dialect, laughs and inquisitive looks over words that are different, but of course all Malagasy understand each other. I personally started in Mada some 20 years ago, without a drop of French, and it still sucks because I don't spend enough time in franocphone countries to learn it properly. And I have picked up really only a few words in Malagasy in three different dialects. And in the end, it really doesn't matter. I learned the ropes and get along fine, and have had my share of excellent, good, fair and poor experiences with the girls of Mada.

And for me (yes I am an American) the bottom line is that Madagascar was a former french colony (thank you for emphasizing that Tinte). That is by far the most important determinant of how Malagasy view Vazaha. The animosity towards the french is still very strong and alive and pervasive. In general, the Malagasy hate the french. Hate. The. French. I truly believe if you are not french you have an advantage, and it really doesn't matter if you speak french or not. The only group that is more hated is the Zanatany. The descendants of the original french colonial families. And if anyone on the forum who consider themselves a "resident" are going to pontificate that this is bullshit, I question whether you have ever had a real genuine Gash friend. I mean a real friend, a Malagasy that will tell you what they are really thinking, or how they really feel.

Anyway, sorry to pontificate. Ha! Read the forum, go experience, enjoy your time with the beautiful young women of this extraordinary place. I can't wait for my next trip.

VL.

Hi,

Every hotel in nosy be ambatoloaka have security 24 h24?

I would like pick 2 or 3 girl. It is possible? Or some hotel say no?

What hotel you recommend for this?

Thank you.

[QUOTE=Tinte;2843879]Well you may bee clever shag on Prep and get a nasty souvenir after you return home like the other expert. Some souvenirs can bee lifetime by the way, like genital herpes.

If you about to produce offspring, bear in mind that according to one credible source of information, your child and his mother will likely not be supportet by her clan nor by a local new boyfriend. Some clans might bee more tolerant, but it is not the general rule, that's often resulting a life sentence for both of them the mother and your child.

During my visit I came across of one guy ho now gets his bills monthly.[/QUOTE]The most serious issue with genital herpes is the stigma it carries in the US. Thanks to the advancements in medicine, the risks we are taking are much lower than they have ever been.

"A life sentence for both" sounds very harsh. Do you mean it is much worse for single mothers in Mada than in, say, Europe or China? I'm interested in learning more.

I'm on some Telegram channel where there was a discussion of a guy who sends 50 euro to support his child in Mada. They said it was entirely voluntary and I believe that.

[QUOTE=Tinte;2843879]" They long after your seed. I know plenty of chicas getting pregnant and the vazaha is long gone. ".

If you about to produce offspring, bear in mind that according to one credible source of information, your child and his mother will likely not be supportet by her clan nor by a local new boyfriend. Some clans might bee more tolerant, but it is not the general rule, that's often resulting a life sentence for both of them the mother and your child.

During my visit I came across of one guy ho now gets his bills monthly.

Each his own.[/QUOTE]This may be true in some areas for some of the tribes, but I have never heard this before. What I have heard from equally credible sources is that Malagasy girls, particularly non-urban and uneducated, actually seek to get pregnant at a young age out of wedlock to prove their fertility. Once they have a baby (which is then raised by the child's grandmother), they are more attractive to Malagasy men that want to marry and have a family. This may be more the case for having a first baby with Malagasy men then Vazaha, but I have had a girl I met and spent one night with in Ifaty plead with me to cum insider her and give her a baby. There was literally no chance for support, she wasnt my girlfriend and had no way to contact me in the future, so it really seemed she just wanted a baby. Other times it seems like a girl wants your baby because they think you will then support them and the baby.

One thing that I have also noticed, and agrees with Tinte's message here, is that once a girl is marked as a makoreli (literally, working girl in Malagasy), and frequents the bars and regularly fucks Vazaha for money, she is no long attractive to many or most Malagasy men, and becomes an outcast. They appear to get trapped in that life and have little recourse when they get older and unattractive to Vazaha. But even that is not universal, because I have had girls in Nosy Be that are a full on PSE makoreli, fucking vazaha in their 50's and 60's and making a lot of money, and still have their younger ripped Malagasy boyfriend that doesn't seem to mind (probably benefits from it). So it seems like there are a lot of variations depending on the region and subculture.

VL.

[QUOTE=Tinte;2843879]I'm not calling myself a expert. Mada is a BB place, that's fact.

Well you may bee clever shag on Prep and get a nasty souvenir after you return home like the other expert. Some souvenirs can bee lifetime by the way, like genital herpes.[/QUOTE]Thought I would comment on this other part of Tinte's message. I had commented on souvenirs back in December during another long discussion, and admin decided to move it to another forum. The post is here:

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1084-Safe-Sex&p=2768361&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2768361.

Hoping that Admin will not move this again, here is the main text of it:

I have thought about posting about this several times, as there is a very casual approach to protection from many posting on this forum. It is true that HIV is relatively low in Madagascar, compared to many African mainland countries (although it is also true that there are not a lot of rigorous studies on it, but I think it is safe to assume it remains at a low level in the population, and I have read that it is similar to the infection rate in a US big city, like New York). However other STDs, both bacterial and viral are very common. Herpes, HPV (genital warts or champignon), gonorrhea, Trichomoniasis, Chancroid, these are just the list that I have either directly or indirectly come across in 20 years. I have had gonorrhea 3 times. The total list is a lot longer and includes syphilis and, yes, HIV, but I haven't come across anyone who contracted them. One study I read about estimated that 30% of girls in the nightclubs in Diego carried a STD that required treatment. That is 1 in 3. So if you spend a couple weeks and screw 10 girls bareback you are almost assured to contract something. I love bareback as much as anyone, and never ever, ever, put a condom on for a blowjob. But I really limit how may pussies I stick it in bareback. I basically make a guess on how active the girl is. If she is clearly a makorely (pute) from a bar, I always use a condom. If she is a sweetie I picked up on the beach, or some student looking for extra money or a copain, then I consider going without a condom. I had one of each last trip. The girl I met from Facebook, clearly advertising, that could deepthroat me repeatedly, gagging on it, and was willing to let me put it in her ass. Nope, not going near that pussy without a condom. The shy sweetie I met at Tatie Chris dancing with a group of her friends, that was clearly inexperienced, fumbled a bit with my cock as she sucked it. Oh my lord how wonderful that pussy felt without a condom. And of course, that is not foolproof and I have contracted my share of STDs that I have had to have treated. It comes with the territory, and if you are doing this, and not prepared to deal with an STD, then you are being a bit foolish, IMO. And using herbal ointments and bullshit hocus-pocus remedies is NOT dealing with it. You got to accept the risks if you want to have this kind of life, but you don't have to be stupid about it either. Also keep in mind that guys that fuck one girl after another bareback are putting the girls and other mongers at risk. I also make a habit of paying for STD tests and treatment for girls that I have long term connections with.

VL.

[QUOTE=VavyLover;2843895]I started writing this message several days ago after a particular exchange, but got side tracked, and now the recent discussion this past few days instigated by Dear DerTyperb made me come back to it. I don't contribute much anymore, but every once and a while I just marvel over much of the swill that is exchanged on this forum. So many experts that are quick to criticize others and tell the absolute truth about Madagascar and their people, as if they have god-given understanding and are prophets of the land.

I wonder if our pirate friend La Buse should instead go by Levasseur's other nickname "La Bouche". (ok, wait for it, wait for it, I know its coming, I'll just wait for it).

Anyway, yes some French is helpful. Malagasy even better. Kudos to you BrasilSoccer for learning Malagasy!! And cool that you have taken up residence! More French expats that live there for years or decades should do the same, it is only respectful. And yes, there are dialects throughout the island, but not so distinct that people cannot understand each other. I have close friends from Toliara, Nosy Be and Tana, and they all experience the same thing out of their dialect, laughs and inquisitive looks over words that are different, but of course all Malagasy understand each other. I personally started in Mada some 20 years ago, without a drop of French, and it still sucks because I don't spend enough time in franocphone countries to learn it properly. And I have picked up really only a few words in Malagasy in three different dialects. And in the end, it really doesn't matter. I learned the ropes and get along fine, and have had my share of excellent, good, fair and poor experiences with the girls of Mada.

And for me (yes I am an American) the bottom line is that Madagascar was a former french colony (thank you for emphasizing that Tinte). That is by far the most important determinant of how Malagasy view Vazaha. The animosity towards the french is still very strong and alive and pervasive. In general, the Malagasy hate the french. Hate. The. French. I truly believe if you are not french you have an advantage, and it really doesn't matter if you speak french or not. The only group that is more hated is the Zanatany. The descendants of the original french colonial families. And if anyone on the forum who consider themselves a "resident" are going to pontificate that this is bullshit, I question whether you have ever had a real genuine Gash friend. I mean a real friend, a Malagasy that will tell you what they are really thinking, or how they really feel.

Anyway, sorry to pontificate. Ha! Read the forum, go experience, enjoy your time with the beautiful young women of this extraordinary place. I can't wait for my next trip.

VL.[/QUOTE]La bouche begs to disagree. If you want to deal with Malagasy authorities the working language and official language of most forms is you guessed it french. And if you are like me holder of a malagasy resident permit you know. So french does come in handy. Even if the Malagasy of course every now and then want to get rid of french as working language it's not going to work. After all the french embassy in Tana issues 20.000 Visa to Malgache every year. And as a frequent visitor to the Ministry of Interior I saw the long lines of Malagasy to apply for biometric passports. Of course there's Malagasy learning English as well as German. A minority.

To wait for what as you wrote? I contributed enough to this particular forum. And I'm tired to reiterate. I leave that to the newbies. The one eyed talking to the blind. I arrived in Madagascar I'm 2015 the first time with a few questions I asked back then. I remember very well the answers I received. LOL. I read the WHOLE FORUM. Your posts were one of the few people I liked to read because they're of substance. As for me. The mouth or La Buse is semi retiring from this and other subfora. As all is written for those who are able to read. Well. The lazy bums will find the Ethiopian flight to NosyBe. For I accept only people with credentials. If you have not suffered at least 12 hours in a Taxi or Camion Brousse and deliver a credible report you are a tourist. And tourists are fleeting passers by. I m a connoisseur.

Alas.

Here comes the end to my sermon.

La Buse / La Bouche.

Owner of a five year visa long sejour.

A genuine one.

Before I left Madagascar I went to Toa for a few days, it's only a short fight from the capital Tana. I arrived late in the evening and it was raining heavily so when I got to my hotel I decided to stay in for the night.

The next day I went out for a walk in the afternoon to find an ATM and get a bite to eat. I found an ATM then ended up in a restaurant and had some lunch. As I left, I was approached by a bicycle rickshaw driver keen to offer a ride, and after telling him 'Je ne parle pas Francais' he switched to English. It was basic English but better than my French! He asked me if I was looking for a massage, I asked him where and how much, he told me 'not far' and said he wasn't sure about the prices. So, off we went. A short time later we arrived at a house that had a hand-written sign on the front gate, reading WENDYS MASSAGE. We went in to the front yard to be greeted by a female who beckoned us inside the house. She brought out 4 girls, all plain looking and all on the wrong side of 30. I told her I was looking for someone aged about 18 or 19 but she shook her head, and we left.

Outside, I asked the driver if he knew of another place with some younger girls. He made a few phone calls and then said "let's go, not far".

20 minutes later we arrived in the middle of some side street where there were two girls waiting. They were the 'girl-next-door' type and one of them was doable, but thought I could get better. So I turned them down. The driver made a few more calls, but by this time it was already getting dark and it was starting to rain. 10 minutes later the driver said he had two more girls, but said they couldn't meet me until the next morning at 9am, so I arranged with the driver to meet me at my hotel the next morning. He said he would come by tuk-tuk, and asked me for 10k as an advance. Yeah, right! I told him I would settle with him AFTER I met the girl, and he agreed. I got him to drop me off at a restaurant and we parted company.

That next morning I met the driver outside my hotel, there was no tuk-tuk, he had come in his rickshaw. I queried him on this but couldn't make out what he was saying. But a rickshaw is still better than walking, so off we went. "Not far, not far" he said. About 40 minutes later we arrived at a small budget hotel, and went in. A girl appeared. I asked him where the other girl was and got some BS about her being sick. The girl that was there was not bad looking, and I asked the driver how much but he replied "up to you" so I took the girl into one of the rooms. We finished with CIP, but she was not keen on any CIP pics.

After I was finished with the girl I gave her 40k, she thanked me and I left the room. I found the driver, and asked him how much. "Up to you" was the response so I gave him 40k. He asked for a bit more so I gave him an extra 10k, he then asked for an extra 15k for the room, which I gave him. I told him I would make my own way back, and asked one of the staff in the hotel to get me a tuk-tuk. The ride back was a lot more comfortable than the ride out!

Nice to read that someone is living with the feet down to earth approach too and not constant in a one eye fantasy movie or in a novel of the last century.

Keeps the good spirit in the community alive.

[QUOTE=Mdemde;2844388]Before I left Madagascar I went to Toa for a few days, it's only a short fight from the capital Tana. I arrived late in the evening and it was raining heavily so when I got to my hotel I decided to stay in for the night.

The next day I went out for a walk in the afternoon to find an ATM and get a bite to eat. I found an ATM then ended up in a restaurant and had some lunch. As I left, I was approached by a bicycle rickshaw driver keen to offer a ride, and after telling him 'Je ne parle pas Francais' he switched to English. It was basic English but better than my French! He asked me if I was looking for a massage, I asked him where and how much, he told me 'not far' and said he wasn't sure about the prices. So, off we went. A short time later we arrived at a house that had a hand-written sign on the front gate, reading Wendys massage. We went in to the front yard to be greeted by a female who beckoned us inside the house. She brought out 4 girls, all plain looking and all on the wrong side of 30. I told her I was looking for someone aged about 18 or 19 but she shook her head, and we left.[/QUOTE]Next time don't use middle man do everything yourself. The driver rip you off your short time sex cost you more than 100 k. Tamatave has plenty of beauties who comes your hotel room for 30-40 k short time or 50 k all night.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2838652]If you want to know about Malagasy culture read Arkady Fiedler. The Madagascar I love.[/QUOTE]Just thought I'd highlight this, because on your recommendation I'm now reading this book.

I would like to know, how much of this still pertains to the Madagascar of the 21st century? The book was written in the 1930's.

Surely nature is the same, and so I would suspect is the relationship the Malagasy peoples have to it. But what else?

Do the ethnic divisions within the Malagasy remain un-blurred after 100 years?

Are the superstitions still as strong as they ever were, even among those who would live in the cities?

I would assume that, at least, the more anachronistic village-dwellers are a bit less effusive in the welcome they give to a (non-French) white person who comes to visit them? No wife-offering, etc?

[QUOTE=ZachHammond;2844491]Just thought I'd highlight this, because on your recommendation I'm now reading this book.

I would like to know, how much of this still pertains to the Madagascar of the 21st century? The book was written in the 1930's.

Surely nature is the same, and so I would suspect is the relationship the Malagasy peoples have to it. But what else?

Do the ethnic divisions within the Malagasy remain un-blurred after 100 years?

Are the superstitions still as strong as they ever were, even among those who would live in the cities?

I would assume that, at least, the more anachronistic village-dwellers are a bit less effusive in the welcome they give to a (non-French) white person who comes to visit them? No wife-offering, etc?[/QUOTE]Nothing has changed in La Brousse. For the highly sophisticated educated Merina and Betsileo some coastal tribes are still savages. I. e. Dahalo. Bandits. The available girls in the village will make it known if you can take them. Nobody sleeps alone in Madagascar unless it's his free choice. Everybody takes a vady. Another excellent book about the malgache is even older. Most has not changed.

E. F. Knight. Madagascar in. War Time.

He's particularly scathing of the Merina Aristocracy.

La Buse.

Hi,

Every hotel in nosy be ambatoloaka have security 24 h24?

I would like pick 2 or 3 girl. It is possible? Or some hotel say no?

Do the girls between them accept that we take several girls?

What hotel you recommend for this?

Thank you.

Just wondering if anyone has recently tried the Cotisse trip to Tulear. I have done the road once so know what to expect. But they do not give even a ballpark number for the length of the trip in hours. Anybody got an idea?

[QUOTE=SouthEaster;2848298]Just wondering if anyone has recently tried the Cotisse trip to Tulear. I have done the road once so know what to expect. But they do not give even a ballpark number for the length of the trip in hours. Anybody got an idea?[/QUOTE]Nonstop it's 23 hours. Cotisse is operating now. They have an own new gare routiere in Tulear. It's a 100.000 MGA. I did it in 2 days back in June. 12 to 13 hours each. With 2 days stopover in Fianarantsoa. The road in the high plateau is full of potholes and curves. But one of the most scenic drives in Madagascar. And Fianarantsoa is worth a stop over any time. But very exhausting.

La Buse.

Cotisse is supposed to be the biggest and best bus company in Mada but I have used them 2 times recently between Tana and Tamatave each time time driver speeding too much and overtaking almost everythink on its way. And the road between Tana and Tamatave you know how narrow the road is! Then I used another company which is not well known and it was much better. Drive was normal.

[QUOTE=Kako123;2849560]Cotisse is supposed to be the biggest and best bus company in Mada but I have used them 2 times recently between Tana and Tamatave each time time driver speeding too much and overtaking almost everythink on its way. And the road between Tana and Tamatave you know how narrow the road is! Then I used another company which is not well known and it was much better. Drive was normal.[/QUOTE]I'll be in tana next week, which company are you referring to? Thanks.

The company name is Soatrans.

[QUOTE=JazzyDaddy;2850094]I'll be in tana next week, which company are you referring to? Thanks.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kako123;2851261]The company name is Soatrans.[/QUOTE]I landed Thursday afternoon, was surprised with the updated invato airport. Very smooth transition through visa and customs. After retrieving my bag, I went outside and negotiated a taxi. I was last here in March 2020 and my French abilities were good, albeit basic. Since then I can speak and understand quite well and it's an advantage for sure. After arriving at the hotel I slept until 1:30 am. I took a taxi to Manson, walked up and it looked like Glacier in the early evening haha, no real talent and nobody was dancing. I went outside and hailed a take that was driving by, to chagrin of the shark drivers waiting to pounce.

Taxi be was jumpin', people dancing full of les filles laides et belles😀. I walked around the entire club except VIP upstairs, maybe a 70 to 4 ratio. So easy to get laid here and there were some attractive propositions. When I saw her initially she was with someone, so I just smiled and kept walking. Later I was standing by the stairs to the VIP and came over and obliged herself of me. We danced and talked for about 45 min. Then off to the chambre. All in all not much has changed as others have stated.

My pleasure.

Nice so how much did you give her? Was it short time or long time?

[QUOTE=JazzyDaddy;2852690]I landed Thursday afternoon, was surprised with the updated invato airport. Very smooth transition through visa and customs. After retrieving my bag, I went outside and negotiated a taxi. I was last here in March 2020 and my French abilities were good, albeit basic. Since then I can speak and understand quite well and it's an advantage for sure. After arriving at the hotel I slept until 1:30 am. I took a taxi to Manson, walked up and it looked like Glacier in the early evening haha, no real talent and nobody was dancing. I went outside and hailed a take that was driving by, to chagrin of the shark drivers waiting to pounce.

Taxi be was jumpin', people dancing full of les filles laides et belles😀. I walked around the entire club except VIP upstairs, maybe a 70 to 4 ratio. So easy to get laid here and there were some attractive propositions. When I saw her initially she was with someone, so I just smiled and kept walking. Later I was standing by the stairs to the VIP and came over and obliged herself of me. We danced and talked for about 45 min. Then off to the chambre. All in all not much has changed as others have stated.[/QUOTE]

I plan to make Madagascar part of a two month run. About 4 changes of clothes. How do you get your laundry done?

[QUOTE=Kako123;2852772]My pleasure.

Nice so how much did you give her? Was it short time or long time?[/QUOTE]We agreed 50 k she left around 10 am.

I woke up at around 130 am to repeat the search, then the electricity started fluctuating. I held out for 10 min in hope all would be well. No such fortune as the power was completely out and I couldn't see well. So I decided to go back to sleep LOL, the power came back at 4:30 am, too late for me.

I'm staying at the infamous and well documented Sole. Good location between Manson just up the hill and Taxi be, probably 5 minutes ride to either locale. There is a supermaki about 3 min walk where daily supplies of water (1 L) 1500 AR compared to 6000 AR at Sole can be had. Also toiletries, fresh French loafs, fromage great variety of package noodles and snacks of all manner. I've been a vegetarian for most of my life so eating when I'm traveling can be difficult with no cooking facility. I ate at Shalimar Restaurant Indienne, as I did last time in Tana. In Amba I have a place with a kitchen so all will be well. I'm heading to find a massage at the moment.

[QUOTE=Zippee;2852850]I plan to make Madagascar part of a two month run. About 4 changes of clothes. How do you get your laundry done?[/QUOTE]After the laundry you can easy ask for extras.

[QUOTE=Zippee;2852850]I plan to make Madagascar part of a two month run. About 4 changes of clothes. How do you get your laundry done?[/QUOTE]I assume you have never been in subsaharan Africa before.

La Buse.

I invite you to think what people did 100 years ago. I'm sure you get the message.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2853074]I assume you have never been in subsaharan Africa before.

La Buse.

I invite you to think what people did 100 years ago. I'm sure you get the message.[/QUOTE]You assume correctly. Thus, the question.

[QUOTE=Zippee;2853311]You assume correctly. Thus, the question.[/QUOTE]That's why if you read my posts it's not a good idea to start with an very advanced african country. Kenya is more developed and people speak English. In every hotel and guest house in subsaharan Africa and Madagascar you have a cleaning lady which also does your Landry for a few dollars. And believe it or not. There is laundries in Tana. Be careful though where they dry your laundry. There is the common putzi fly or skin maggot fly which has the habit of laying her eggs onto wet laundry. Then the eggs attach themselves to your skin and there's maggots growing under your skin. Very common in subsaharan Africa.

La Buse.

Who never had putzi flies but bedbugs twice in Madagascar. Scabies in Addis Ababa and malaria tropica in Dar es Salaam.

On my first trip I too spent an afternoon trying to find laundry service. Expecting laundry saloons which charges by the kilo.

I found three options. Hotel laundry which is expensive, net a sec which is even more expensive and a worker who handwashes it.

100 ariary for underwear and t shirts 200 for pants or jackets and 300 for two place bedsheet. You will pay for the soap bar as well 1000-1400 in epicerie. The clothes will degrade faster when they handwash it cause they are getting stretched out a lot. Good luck.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2853380]That's why if you read my posts it's not a good idea to start with an very advanced african country. Kenya is more developed and people speak English. In every hotel and guest house in subsaharan Africa and Madagascar you have a cleaning lady which also does your Landry for a few dollars. And believe it or not. There is laundries in Tana. Be careful though where they dry your laundry. There is the common putzi fly or skin maggot fly which has the habit of laying her eggs onto wet laundry. Then the eggs attach themselves to your skin and there's maggots growing under your skin. Very common in subsaharan Africa.

La Buse.

Who never had putzi flies but bedbugs twice in Madagascar. Scabies in Addis Ababa and malaria tropica in Dar es Salaam.[/QUOTE]I know these flies and thier eggs, never had that during all my stay in Ivory coast, 7 years, long time ago.

The best way to avoid this is to iron everything, hot iron kill all eggs. But everything means really all clothes that can be in contact with skin.

I saw a friend with eggs going in his skin, very bad, temperature, pain, big buttons all over his back. Yes be very careful with laundry.

Out at 1:00 am. What happened to Manson? Dead again and no one is having fun, so it seemed to me, the vibe is suffering the last breath syndrome. Taxi be is the exact opposite, people smiling, dancing and you could see most were genuinely enjoying themselves. Lots of opportunities to be had with just a smile. Did the obligatory walk through a couple of times. Three femmes invited me over to were they dancing and laughing amongst themselves in front of the stage. The fille that I was attracted to grabbed my hand and began to move her ass on my pelvis (the gyrating ass to pelvis move). We exchanged names and pleasantries and danced for a bit, then she was asking for a drink (bad sign) so I asked her to wait and I'll be back. On the third round I saw another attractive opportunity who displayed a great smile and welcoming eyes. I spent about 15 minutes interviewing her to make sure she knew "pipe". I was heading to Amba Sunday afternoon so I didn't want to pass too much time, I invited her to join me at chez moi. Again great attitude and we both enjoyed each other. Got to love mada!

Reminds of help in rio 1998, so many people letting it allll haaaang looose. Options galore couldn't keep up with the invitations.

That's why it's dead. The owner is looking for places in Nosy Be.

[QUOTE=Tottem;2853774]That's why it's dead. The owner is looking for places in Nosy Be.[/QUOTE]

Or it's for sale because it's dead? Yes it looks like Amba in Nosy be is expanding its' commercial presentation. Not sure that is a positive sign.

I'm staying at a great place where I can cook and has a beautiful garden with lots of mosquitoes at dusk. I went out Monday evening to check the crowd in front of taxi be and afro bar. I hung out for a bit at Afro bar but I was too tired so I decided to leave for the hotel, then of course a beautiful tall dark femme came up to while I was walking and wanted to share herself with me. I told her I can't because so tired, promised to meet the next night because she was so fine. Went home and slept with the mosquitoes instead.

[QUOTE=JazzyDaddy;2854158]. I told her I can't because so tired, promised to meet the next night because she was so fine. Went home and slept with the mosquitoes instead.[/QUOTE]Can you find one of them electric mosquito rackets in the general merchandise store? Them fuckin things are one of the best things God ever invented. Clear your room a couple times a day and laugh every time you hear a pop!

[QUOTE=JazzyDaddy;2853565]Reminds of help in rio 1998, so many people letting it allll haaaang looose. Options galore couldn't keep up with the invitations.[/QUOTE]Are you talking about Tatie Chris at Nosy Be?

If so, how could you explore the Manson at Tana and Tatie Chris the same night?

Ubiquity super power?

[QUOTE=NamasteParis;2854342]Are you talking about Tatie Chris at Nosy Be?

If so, how could you explore the Manson at Tana and Tatie Chris the same night?

Ubiquity super power?[/QUOTE]Saturday night Tana, Sunday night Amba yes because we live in a modern world and Taty Chris is a Sunday only event!

Madagascar is a beautiful country with beautiful scenery (except Tana), all it takes is a genuine smile and you will not be able to keep up with all the available options at your beckon and call. And if you speak French your world of opportunity stretches across the whole country. Modern infrastructure is absent and transportation is rudimentary, but that is the fascination and mystery of this captivating red land. I know now why the French here covet their lifestyle, as it's easy to be spoiled by modern human demands.

[QUOTE=JazzyDaddy;2855766]Madagascar is a beautiful country with beautiful scenery (except Tana), all it takes is a genuine smile and you will not be able to keep up with all the available options at your beckon and call. And if you speak French your world of opportunity stretches across the whole country. Modern infrastructure is absent and transportation is rudimentary, but that is the fascination and mystery of this captivating red land. I know now why the French here covet their lifestyle, as it's easy to be spoiled by modern human demands.[/QUOTE]See you soon.

I was a bit shocked when I saw this report on Medrxiv website. According to them the real hiv prevalence rate is not 0.3% but it is 3% percent and this is a new report from 2023.

This is from the report: To our knowledge, this study marks the largest primary test data-based HIV study to date among Madagascar's general population, showing a greatly higher HIV prevalence (3.0%) than previously reported modeling based figures (0.3%.

The wide spread promiscuity and on the hot spots enhanced by tourists and les putes - 0. 3% obvious is a wishful thought.

The way they made this study and were they took the samples is the other question.

I wonder why they concentrated on the north? Nosy Be and Diego? They also mention mining and to my knowledge most of the mining is on the way to Tamatave and near Fort dauphin (and north of Tulear? All far from the north. I won't discount the numbers but I always am a little suspect after the huge scares in some places with supposedly massive numbers. Cambodia 25 years back was supposed to be something like 30%. Treatment was pretty useless compared to now but the following few years did not see 30 $ of the population die off.

I want to book a trip with Cotisse before I arrive but it seems that the only online options to pay are Mvola and Orange money. If you get to the payment page they actually have a credit card service charge tacked on to the price, but no CC option appears on the page. Anyone?

To me its all simpel math and it can hit you in the remotest village by a careless shag and you join the community.

After all its a free personal decision and how to respond to the common facts too.

Pre-election violence. Bodies lying about beat to a pulp. The army's in the street. Limited to Tana so far. Either wait till after the election, or go directly from Ivato to elsewhere, except seats on flights even more limited than usual.

It makes difference I think because I have always thought Madagascar differently about this issue compare to Africa. But if this statistics are true then it is not.

[QUOTE=Tinte;2857225]To me its all simpel math and it can hit you in the remotest village by a careless shag and you join the community.

After all its a free personal decision and how to respond to the common facts too.[/QUOTE]

Yes only orange money or mvola payment option was available last summer.

[QUOTE=SouthEaster;2857199]I want to book a trip with Cotisse before I arrive but it seems that the only online options to pay are Mvola and Orange money. If you get to the payment page they actually have a credit card service charge tacked on to the price, but no CC option appears on the page. Anyone?[/QUOTE]

It was notable by leaving LE glacier with a girl, they often wanted to sell you condoms. To me that's telling you all you need to know about it.

[QUOTE=SouthEaster;2857199]I want to book a trip with Cotisse before I arrive but it seems that the only online options to pay are Mvola and Orange money. If you get to the payment page they actually have a credit card service charge tacked on to the price, but no CC option appears on the page. Anyone?[/QUOTE]I don't think you can pay with CC. I always paid cash. Of course you can pay with mvola. Reservation is not an issue as I'm time millionaire. As far as I know a lot of malagasy reserve by phone. If I go a few days earlier or later doesn't matter to me. Now with the town office in Tripolitsa it's very convenient to book there. But there's a good alternative now not on all routes. It's Soatrans. They have new VW Crafter Busses. If you go to Fianarantsoa or Tamatave they're a good alternative. I wanted to try them out from Fianar to Tana. But. They were fully booked. As the president was in town last June. So I ended up with Cotisse which was okish.

La Buse.

Son of a *****. No idea this was coming up. And I arrive in 2 weeks! Guess I better keep my head down. I think I will take a taxi straight from Ivato to Cotisse and book something out the following day if things get nasty.

[QUOTE=SouthEaster;2857478]Son of a *****. No idea this was coming up. And I arrive in 2 weeks! Guess I better keep my head down. I think I will take a taxi straight from Ivato to Cotisse and book something out the following day if things get nasty.[/QUOTE]Relax. There was nothing so far. The opposition candidates planned a demonstration at rue independence. But that already has been thwarted by police. I'm not scaremongering. Mostly likely the DJ will be reelected. There's nobody on the horizon to stand up against him. Certainly not Marc. If you stay away from the Fokontany and the presidents palace you should be good to go. Election is scheduled for the 9 the November. I've nothing heard of people getting killed. Maybe in the Slums. All candidates got one million euros each to keep the peace for election expenses and the requisite chopper rental from south Africa.

La Buse.

In the provinces you should be safe (r). Unless the poor decide to use the opportunity to rob some Karane off their sacks of rice.

Why would you worry about elections? Who cares.

[QUOTE=SouthEaster;2857478]Son of a *****. No idea this was coming up. And I arrive in 2 weeks! Guess I better keep my head down. I think I will take a taxi straight from Ivato to Cotisse and book something out the following day if things get nasty.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SouthEaster;2857478]Son of a *****. No idea this was coming up. And I arrive in 2 weeks! Guess I better keep my head down. I think I will take a taxi straight from Ivato to Cotisse and book something out the following day if things get nasty.[/QUOTE]Things are already nasty, and it's just starting. You should have known this. Always happens with elections in Africa and this country is no exception. Taking to the roads on public transit would be stupid. Going to Tana out of the question. Even with teargas mask, there's still curfew. Toliara girls have gotten the hell out and gone home. Cotisse would be full if they're still running. If you're too cheap to fly, hire an SUV at the airport and maybe he'll take you to Majunga.

I do hope the new one does it in the first round and things calm down after.

Since the security is always to bee considered, I guess criminals will always take advantage of a instabel situation like riots etc.

Why does it matter to you? It is their election not yours? They would not bother foreigners.

[QUOTE=Golfinho;2857517]Things are already nasty, and it's just starting. You should have known this. Always happens with elections in Africa and this country is no exception. Taking to the roads on public transit would be stupid. Going to Tana out of the question. Even with teargas mask, there's still curfew. Toliara girls have gotten the hell out and gone home. Cotisse would be full if they're still running. If you're too cheap to fly, hire an SUV at the airport and maybe he'll take you to Majunga.[/QUOTE]

So you think that the comedian DJ will be reelected. I certainly think the same as well. Haha.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2857504]Relax. There was nothing so far. The opposition candidates planned a demonstration at rue independence. But that already has been thwarted by police. I'm not scaremongering. Mostly likely the DJ will be reelected. There's nobody on the horizon to stand up against him. Certainly not Marc. If you stay away from the Fokontany and the presidents palace you should be good to go. Election is scheduled for the 9 the November. I've nothing heard of people getting killed. Maybe in the Slums. All candidates got one million euros each to keep the peace for election expenses and the requisite chopper rental from south Africa.

La Buse.

In the provinces you should be safe (r). Unless the poor decide to use the opportunity to rob some Karane off their sacks of rice.[/QUOTE]

All candidates got 1 million euros each from where or which country??

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2857504]Relax. There was nothing so far. The opposition candidates planned a demonstration at rue independence. But that already has been thwarted by police. I'm not scaremongering. Mostly likely the DJ will be reelected. There's nobody on the horizon to stand up against him. Certainly not Marc. If you stay away from the Fokontany and the presidents palace you should be good to go. Election is scheduled for the 9 the November. I've nothing heard of people getting killed. Maybe in the Slums. All candidates got one million euros each to keep the peace for election expenses and the requisite chopper rental from south Africa.

La Buse.

In the provinces you should be safe (r). Unless the poor decide to use the opportunity to rob some Karane off their sacks of rice.[/QUOTE]

So Golfinho figures I am heading into a war zone and will be killed if I take to the road. Neddy figures all will be fine and there is not much to worry about. I have no idea how things will turn out but I guess I am going to find out. Unless Golfinho is on the ground right now how would he know all the girls from Toliara are leaving. Are you? If that is indeed the case it may make it worthwhile to head there, which after last years dustbowl experience I wasn't going to bother with this time around. And yes I could fly almost immediately but that was not my plan and I am not likely to change it unless I hear dire reports of fighting etc. Before I arrive.

Is there anyone on the ground right now who has a feel for the current vibe and potential risk or lack thereof?

Here's a weird one for you. Just for the hell of it I checked flights for the next few weeks from Tana to Tulear. Pretty expensive but available every day I could see. On the other hand the entire month of October flights are full in the other direction. Seem highly unlikely. If the government is behind it why would they care if a few backwater bums from tulear wanted to fly into Tana. Especially since hardly anybody there has the money to fly. Strange.

[QUOTE=Kako123;2857627]Why does it matter to you? It is their election not yours? They would not bother foreigners.[/QUOTE]Are you really that clueless? Closed bars and curfews are what matter.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2857504]Relax. There was nothing so far. The opposition candidates planned a demonstration at rue independence. But that already has been thwarted by police. I'm not scaremongering. Mostly likely the DJ will be reelected. There's nobody on the horizon to stand up against him. Certainly not Marc. If you stay away from the Fokontany and the presidents palace you should be good to go. Election is scheduled for the 9 the November. I've nothing heard of people getting killed. Maybe in the Slums. All candidates got one million euros each to keep the peace for election expenses and the requisite chopper rental from south Africa.

La Buse.

In the provinces you should be safe (r). Unless the poor decide to use the opportunity to rob some Karane off their sacks of rice.[/QUOTE]You're talking out your at $$. The tunnel in Tana was teargassed. Shops closed. Curfew and strike and everything closed in Toliara. No problem so long as you stocked up on water and liquids. Between now and election aftermath, they'll be good days, they'll be bad days, and some inconvenience. Go and then you can regale this board with tales of your heroics.

[QUOTE=SouthEaster;2857716]So Golfinho figures I am heading into a war zone and will be killed if I take to the road. Neddy figures all will be fine and there is not much to worry about. I have no idea how things will turn out but I guess I am going to find out. Unless Golfinho is on the ground right now how would he know all the girls from Toliara are leaving. Are you? If that is indeed the case it may make it worthwhile to head there, which after last years dustbowl experience I wasn't going to bother with this time around. And yes I could fly almost immediately but that was not my plan and I am not likely to change it unless I hear dire reports of fighting etc. Before I arrive.

Is there anyone on the ground right now who has a feel for the current vibe and potential risk or lack thereof?[/QUOTE]Don't worry yourself precious. Toliara is the same old, dusty flyblown town as devoid as always. Plane down was full of geriatric French tourists, but they'll be staying at French / Italian owned hostelry for sleeping and eating and drinking and won't be affected by the strike. Girls go away to Tana and Nosy where their parents and family won't see them cavorting with geriatric vazaha. Of course, it's an open secret where the remittances are coming from, but it's sight unseen and fady to talk about it. Back home in Toliara and hunting you? Some desperate as always, but no bonanza to get yourself excited about.

When your plan is a cheaply-as-possible sex holiday, you don't need to change nothing. Just keep stocked up on water. And shell out for data plan on your SIM card and you're good to go.

[QUOTE=Golfinho;2857950]You're talking out your at $$. The tunnel in Tana was teargassed. Shops closed. Curfew and strike and everything closed in Toliara. No problem so long as you stocked up on water and liquids. Between now and election aftermath, they'll be good days, they'll be bad days, and some inconvenience. Go and then you can regale this board with tales of your heroics.[/QUOTE]Don't worry about me. I've been in election periods twice in Madagascar. Twice in Kenya. Once in Tanzania. And in Gambia when Jammeh was deposed. Yes. I agree stock up on water and food. Don't leave your hotel room unless absolutely necessary. Of course all joints shops etc. Will be closed. Avoid the central area around Rue independence and the presidents palace you'll be ok. No need to fear monger and exaggerate. Elections are what they are. Stay away from demonstrations. Will I be in Madagascar. No. But know people who live there. So I know exactly what's going on.

La Buse.

I've been seen here in dar / Amba with two different ladies who love to come over and spend nights (separately) with me. One, my favorite, is so dark it's hard to see her face at night but very attractive and the other very attractive with light feathers. Only because they make me laugh, make incredible sex and love to go out dancing I've not been active in the singles search here lately. This morning I cooked banana whiskey flambé crepes with pomme de terre américaine after a morning session with la femme noir, it doesn't hurt if you know how to cook. The only ingredient absent for me is a jazz venue where I can play and listen, but hey so much for perfection hahahaha, I'm forced to settle for other modes of self expression. See'est la vie!

[QUOTE=SouthEaster;2857718]Here's a weird one for you. Just for the hell of it I checked flights for the next few weeks from Tana to Tulear. Pretty expensive but available every day I could see. On the other hand the entire month of October flights are full in the other direction. Seem highly unlikely. If the government is behind it why would they care if a few backwater bums from tulear wanted to fly into Tana. Especially since hardly anybody there has the money to fly. Strange.[/QUOTE]Forgot to address this earlier. No flights from Tulear to Tana until (at present) 7 November. Reason is simple: the road has lapsed into such deplorable condition that no one is willing to go overland, except for the Malagasy, of course, and the dregs of the vazaha, that is the pirates.

What does the condition of the roads have to do with full (cancelled?) flights. You are implying that the government, I guess, is OK with people leaving Tana for Tulear but doesn't want them coming back?

[QUOTE=Golfinho;2858204]Forgot to address this earlier. No flights from Tulear to Tana until (at present) 7 November. Reason is simple: the road has lapsed into such deplorable condition that no one is willing to go overland, except for the Malagasy, of course, and the dregs of the vazaha, that is the pirates.[/QUOTE]Well I used that deplorable road in June. Deplorable it was. Not the leg from Tulear to Fianar. Only the last 80 km or so when it climbs up to the high plateau before Fianar. 2 days later I took the early morning Cotisse from Fianar to Tana. There were a number of road works going on. Rehabilitation of sections of road blocked by landslides. When they get EU I. E. French funding that is. It was a long and exhausting drive with 1000's of curves ranging from potholes to brand new tarmacked sections. But I love it. RN 7 is of the most scenic routes on earth. Can it be blocked. Of course if there's land slides. Any time.

LE dreg of the world.

La Buse.

Pirate extraordinary.

I was actually flying down last March. When I wanted to fly back there was not a single seat available. Not even for 220€. So I had to go back with the Malagasy lowlifes. I always met some nice girls. Of course driving is not for everyone. Only a pirate and a legionnaire choose that route.

[QUOTE=SouthEaster;2858390]What does the condition of the roads have to do with full (cancelled?) flights. You are implying that the government, I guess, is OK with people leaving Tana for Tulear but doesn't want them coming back?[/QUOTE]I'm not implying anything. Sorry you can't make sense of it. Ask the people working at Tsaradia and you'll hear the same thing. Enjoy the ride. We all know what the view is like. Sit on the right side going down to best see the emerald miners.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2858406]Well I used that deplorable road in June. Deplorable it was. Not the leg from Tulear to Fianar. Only the last 80 km or so when it climbs up to the high plateau before Fianar. 2 days later I took the early morning Cotisse from Fianar to Tana. There were a number of road works going on. Rehabilitation of sections of road blocked by landslides. When they get EU I. E. French funding that is. It was a long and exhausting drive with 1000's of curves ranging from potholes to brand new tarmacked sections. But I love it. RN 7 is of the most scenic routes on earth. Can it be blocked. Of course if there's land slides. Any time.
[/QUOTE]There's things to see in stretches, but hardly amongst the most scenic routes on earth. Weather-related slides can block road at any time: now is October, June was who knows how many cyclones ago.

At any rate, the President was in Tulear last Spring celebrating completion of Tulear Airport project, which if you never been through airports here you mightn't know anything about it firsthand. He announced flights would soon be coming -- and from / to international destinations. Nothing yet, although the once weekly flight to RUN via Fort Dauphin is operating.

[QUOTE=Golfinho;2858491]There's things to see in stretches, but hardly amongst the most scenic routes on earth. Weather-related slides can block road at any time: now is October, June was who knows how many cyclones ago.

At any rate, the President was in Tulear last Spring celebrating completion of Tulear Airport project, which if you never been through airports here you mightn't know anything about it firsthand. He announced flights would soon be coming -- and from / to international destinations. Nothing yet, although the once weekly flight to RUN via Fort Dauphin is operating.[/QUOTE]The problem of Air Madagascar is. No aircraft. Right now they operate only ATR72 in various stages of decay. When I was flying down I noticed one of the prop blades was patched up. They supposed to lease 2 regional aircraft Embraer. They don't have enough capacity right now. I remember there was a be 737 operating. There's enough rich people who fly. Tourists. Rich Karane and do gooders NGOs. Malagasy people have money too. The Highlands people who live their pockets. And lastly. Government flies for free. Also the diaspora. The biggest problem is graft. We all know that.

La Buse.

Tulear? I spent 3 months down there. Right a week after the last cyclone passed. Tulear? They're always talking of direct flights to South Africa. It's all bullshit. The Malagasy powers (Merina) to be only pay lip service. They don't want development. They don't want competition. They want to protect their permanently bankrupt national carrier.

Which Tulear Airport project? The airport hasn't changed since I landed there back in 2015 and now 2022. LOL.

Just how do you expect me to make sense of things from thousands of miles away? You are the one apparently in Tulear right now but I am expected to understand the situation from another continent. And yes I will be contacting Tsaradia from abroad to get their take on it too! What is wrong with you? You seem to take a perverse delight in showing how well you know the ins and out of the country while denigrating anyone who doesn't have your financial wherewithal. At least the pirate supplies information and does not attempt to lord it over others less fortunate. Yes he has an acerbic bite. You prefer to get in a subtle jab with every post. Every post.

Heading out Thursday night, so I'll report my observations on the current events unfolding in tana.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2858636]The problem of Air Madagascar is. No aircraft. Right now they operate only ATR72 in various stages of decay. When I was flying down I noticed one of the prop blades was patched up. They supposed to lease 2 regional aircraft Embraer. They don't have enough capacity right now. I remember there was a be 737 operating. There's enough rich people who fly. Tourists. Rich Karane and do gooders NGOs. Malagasy people have money too. The Highlands people who live their pockets. And lastly. Government flies for free. Also the diaspora. The biggest problem is graft. We all know that.

La Buse.

Tulear? I spent 3 months down there. Right a week after the last cyclone passed. Tulear? They're always talking of direct flights to South Africa. It's all bullshit. The Malagasy powers (Merina) to be only pay lip service. They don't want development. They don't want competition. They want to protect their permanently bankrupt national carrier.

Which Tulear Airport project? The airport hasn't changed since I landed there back in 2015 and now 2022. LOL.[/QUOTE]2022 is a long time ago LOL and LOL some more. President made his talk in 2023. You evidently don't come very often.

Two functioning aircraft at the moment. Don't plan making tight connections even more as per usual.

I was booked on one of those Embraer aircraft for a flight in 2 weeks to Diego. Last week they sent me a change (surprise). Flight is now 5 hours earlier and switched to an ATR72. Hope the tape doesn't fall off.

Jazzy, looking forward to your take on real time in Tana. I arrive next week.

[QUOTE=Golfinho;2858815]2022 is a long time ago LOL and LOL some more. President made his talk in 2023. You evidently don't come very often.

Two functioning aircraft at the moment. Don't plan making tight connections even more as per usual.[/QUOTE]I'm getting old. I even mix up years. I flew down in March 2023 of course. They have seven serviceable ATRs. What does it mean? If they have no money for spare parts. Or no money at all. I wouldn't worry too much. Everybody who knows air mad knows what I'm talking about anything can happen. It's more like a taxi Brousse. Be happy when it flies und you arrive alive. Booking is subject to change and cancellation.

La Buse.

Seeing the theatrics in Tulear over the weekend, strikers marching with their banners with gendarmerie blocking the boulevard. Neither side seemed know what to do. It was almost like a scripted show. Eventually the tear gas canisters are flying, kids running all over. Different from Tana where watching from the hotel seeing gendarmes and demonstrators beating each other with clubs and sticks.

I was down there 3 months from March to June. The place became more desperate over the years. The bit of tourism they had is now all but dead. There were lots of people sleeping rough in the streets. Refugees from the South and people from villages displaced by floods. I arrived with the first plane after the last major cyclone passed overhead. The totally drunken one which proceeded to hit Mozambique. People were using walls to p* and sh**t. All in all I spent 5 months in Tana and 3 months in Tulear. When I get around I'll write some more. But what to say. It is what it is. The best pussy on this planet. But. As I wrote countless times. Nothing for the US Eastern Seaboard warrior or Thai / Phillys Sextourist. Only for Ex Pirates Ex SOF Operators Ex Legionnaires Ex Organized crime members. I even met a genuine Taliban in Tana. And people know what they know, know that a brother of Bin Laden was killed trading gemstones in Ilakaka. Last genuine place for adventure on this planet. Except DRC.

LE dreg of the world.

La Buse.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2859416]I was down there 3 months from March to June. The place became more desperate over the years. The bit of tourism they had is now all but dead. There were lots of people sleeping rough in the streets. Refugees from the South and people from villages displaced by floods. I arrived with the first plane after the last major cyclone passed overhead. The totally drunken one which proceeded to hit Mozambique. People were using walls to p* and sh**t. All in all I spent 5 months in Tana and 3 months in Tulear. When I get around I'll write some more. But what to say. It is what it is. The best pussy on this planet. But. As I wrote countless times. Nothing for the US Eastern Seaboard warrior or Thai / Phillys Sextourist. Only for Ex Pirates Ex SOF Operators Ex Legionnaires Ex Organized crime members. I even met a genuine Taliban in Tana. And people know what they know, know that a brother of Bin Laden was killed trading gemstones in Ilakaka. Last genuine place for adventure on this planet. Except DRC.

LE dreg of the world.

La Buse.[/QUOTE]For anyone needs help reading between the lines: the man stays here for three months because for one reason. It is cheap. It is existing at the lowest common denominator and could hardly be called living, but it is something that he can afford. Are there girls? Of course, there are girls everywhere. No mystery there.

There is tourism, otherwise why are the planes full of older, somewhat affluent-looking French people, primarily couples? Because less than an hour away in both directions along the coast there is good-quality hostelry with European proprietors and of course European pricing. Anticipate 100 euros per day, much more actually as you would be taking meals there.

But to stay in dusty dead Tulear for three months you have to be someone who functions at the lowest level of human experience.

Tulear, a hotbed for UA sex. Fake ID s are cheap like a cup of rice. Hotel LE Receive a famos meeting point. But many eyes watching the non french speaking Tourist. Once you are up in the room, the call to the gendarms will happen and later the zebu thieves will share the bribe money for your freedom with them.

Also, stroll along the dirty beach watching half naked girls after school swimming, a Gang of kids will pester you as their warehouse but without cashier. Don't even think to catch them running away in the sand with your valuables.

Its a pirate's bay.

[QUOTE=Golfinho;2859687]For anyone needs help reading between the lines: the man stays here for three months because for one reason. It is cheap. It is existing at the lowest common denominator and could hardly be called living, but it is something that he can afford. Are there girls? Of course, there are girls everywhere. No mystery there.

There is tourism, otherwise why are the planes full of older, somewhat affluent-looking French people, primarily couples? Because less than an hour away in both directions along the coast there is good-quality hostelry with European proprietors and of course European pricing. Anticipate 100 euros per day, much more actually as you would be taking meals there.

But to stay in dusty dead Tulear for three months you have to be someone who functions at the lowest level of human experience.[/QUOTE]As I wrote before. I'm not staying in Tulear because it's cheaper than other places. I stayed in Tana 5 months. LOL. The most I've ever paid for accommodation in subsaharan Africa was I believe 20 $ a night. On average my budget for accommodation is 10 $ a night. If you know what you're doing. I spent the same 10 $ to 13 $ in Antananarivo Tamatave Nosy Be Diego Fianarantsoa and Antsirabe. And for that matter you can get very decent hotel rooms for 10 to 13€ in Nairobi, Dar es Salaam, Stone Town, Entebbe, Kampala, Kigali. Only West Africa is a tad more expensive. Calculate 15 $ to 20 $. So. You're staying than in a 100 $ place I suppose. LOL. I never made a secret out of my budget. Food. I spend a maximum of 300 $ a month. When I cook myself I get by with less. Breakfast in Africa is in comparison to the main meal relative expensive. But that depends. Street food like Rolex in Kampala goes for 1. 50 $. I love Analakely for the cheap street food options. I found delicious joints where I pay for omelette coffee and fresh pain batard 5000 MGA. I used that place for 5 months. Right smack at the escaliers de Ambondrona. Girl prices. I never pay more in Madagascar for ST 30.000 to 40.000 MGA. LT 60.000 MGA. 2 times I paid 70.000 MGA. Equally in Uganda Kenya Tanzania Rwanda. The taxi fare I pay is 10 $ to 20 $. That's it. The most I ever paid which was in Nairobi and one time in Dar was 30 $.

That's it. And I'm mongering now in Subsaharan Africa for more than 12 years. If you like to pay overpriced tourist accommodation. Go ahead. You have my blessing. LOL.

La Buse.

LE dreg of the world.

Who'll roam Africa to my last breathe.

Rolled in last night around 9 pm. Looks like the same as when I left. Girls standing alone or in groups on Independence, not much police / army present. This morning's walk to independence revealed more security forces on corners and in front of the government building, but other than that life proceeds as usual from my observations. People walking to work, vendors selling their wares, children begging for scraps nothing new. I did see a handful of quite attractive femmes, which is always a good sign.

To me it was a exzellent place to stay. Very good value if not the best in Mada so far. Very good location.

Yes, the checked the ID very close and no inlet without on. I like the "confirmation" about fake ID, there was a article about it some weeks ago and the arestation of some French expats ho ended up officially prosecuted. Every place on earth has its law you have to follow accordingly, it is as simpel as that.

Thanks for the update. I arrive in a couple of days and was wondering just what the hell I was wandering into! No guarantee it will stay that way but good to hear. What the hell does one do if curfews are imposed? The whole point of going to Mada is being able to go out in the evening for a look around, a meal and some "attractive femmes"!

I have tried searching but damned if I can find it. Some time back there was mention of some banks that now dispense 1,200,000 ariary. Anybody know which ones?

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2859792]As I wrote before. I'm not staying in Tulear because it's cheaper than other places. I stayed in Tana 5 months. LOL. The most I've ever paid for accommodation in subsaharan Africa was I believe 20 $ a night. On average my budget for accommodation is 10 $ a night. If you know what you're doing. I spent the same 10 $ to 13 $ in Antananarivo Tamatave Nosy Be Diego Fianarantsoa and Antsirabe. And for that matter you can get very decent hotel rooms for 10 to 13 in Nairobi, Dar es Salaam, Stone Town, Entebbe, Kampala, Kigali. Only West Africa is a tad more expensive. Calculate 15 $ to 20 $. So. You're staying than in a 100 $ place I suppose. LOL. I never made a secret out of my budget. Food. I spend a maximum of 300 $ a month. When I cook myself I get by with less. Breakfast in Africa is in comparison to the main meal relative expensive. But that depends. Street food like Rolex in Kampala goes for 1. 50 $. I love Analakely for the cheap street food options. I found delicious joints where I pay for omelette coffee and fresh pain batard 5000 MGA. I used that place for 5 months. Right smack at the escaliers de Ambondrona. Girl prices. I never pay more in Madagascar for ST 30.000 to 40.000 MGA. LT 60.000 MGA. 2 times I paid 70.000 MGA. Equally in Uganda Kenya Tanzania Rwanda. The taxi fare I pay is 10 $ to 20 $. That's it. The most I ever paid which was in Nairobi and one time in Dar was 30 $.

That's it.[/QUOTE]Yes, you have a budget and you must live as cheaply as possible. And you've found a place where you can do that and you call it roaming free. We appreciate your perspective for what it is. Keep doing it until they take you out in a box. Actually given the costs, you'd be staying in Africa.

I find it amusing that you are attacking Neddy for staying in Tulear from, Tulear! You don't see the irony? As for what happens once you are in a box, who gives a fuck where they burn or bury you, it's game over anyway and you are beyond caring. When is the pay for view cage match? Enquiring minds want to know.

If you're going from or coming in anywhere near Rue Independence, you'll have to detour (which is challenging) probably an extra 45 to 60 minute. Everything still calm except for the closure, business as usual happening with all the usual suspects.

[QUOTE=SouthEaster;2860361]I have tried searching but damned if I can find it. Some time back there was mention of some banks that now dispense 1,200,000 ariary. Anybody know which ones?[/QUOTE]BMOI does. But only the new machines. And visa only. New Machines are in Tulear and Nosy Be. My branch in Tsaralalana has an old machine which still dispenses 800.000 which is ok for me. Try the main branch opposite Buffet du Jardin.

La Buse.

Dreg of the world.

Are there Jews in Madagascar?

Yes Visa only and there is also one in Tamatave just behind La Terrasse restaurant. The branch have 2 atms but sometimes no cash in any of them.
(Oh so you mean Tamatave) I forgot about Buffet du Jardin. Yes it is opposite side of that place..Or behind La Terrasse...



[QUOTE=Neddy69;2860485]BMOI does. But only the new machines. And visa only. New Machines are in Tulear and Nosy Be. My branch in Tsaralalana has an old machine which still dispenses 800.000 which is ok for me. Try the main branch opposite Buffet du Jardin.

La Buse.

Dreg of the world.[/QUOTE]

Howdy,

Hope why'all doing well wherever you are.

So as the title asks what do why'all think you are seeing in the attached photo?

You think it's some kind of a sexually transmitted infection or just a harmless ingrown hair from shaving?

BTW, I took this photo of a sweet 20 yrs malagasy student who otherwise had NO symptoms not even a foul odor.

Remember, syphilis infection is particularly increasing around the world including Mada.

I'll give you the answer soon!

Many of us go bareback just know Mada is not as innocent as it may have been!

[QUOTE=BrasilSoccer0;2861142]Howdy,

Hope why'all doing well wherever you are.

So as the title asks what do why'all think you are seeing in the attached photo?

You think it's some kind of a sexually transmitted infection or just a harmless ingrown hair from shaving?

BTW, I took this photo of a sweet 20 yrs malagasy student who otherwise had NO symptoms not even a foul odor.

Remember, syphilis infection is particularly increasing around the world including Mada.

I'll give you the answer soon!

Many of us go bareback just know Mada is not as innocent as it may have been![/QUOTE]Can't beat the smell test. Looks like an ingrown hair to me.

Smell and taste. Good to go. LOL. Mada has never been innocent. STDs have always existed. But some people perpetuate urban myths. Years ago it has been said that there was an outbreak of Syphilis in FD because of all the south African convicts working in the mines there.

It may be STD but it doesn't look like syphilis.

[QUOTE=BrasilSoccer0;2861142]Howdy,

Hope why'all doing well wherever you are.

So as the title asks what do why'all think you are seeing in the attached photo?

You think it's some kind of a sexually transmitted infection or just a harmless ingrown hair from shaving?

BTW, I took this photo of a sweet 20 yrs malagasy student who otherwise had NO symptoms not even a foul odor.

Remember, syphilis infection is particularly increasing around the world including Mada.

I'll give you the answer soon!

Many of us go bareback just know Mada is not as innocent as it may have been![/QUOTE]

This is a sweet school girl who after a month of not seeing her showed up with this!!

What do you this is? Syphilis, herpes. Or heat rash?

And yes Nedy69 it's an ingrown hair. Bravo.

But you lost me when you said to taste it!! To smell is ok. Never put your tounge on a suspected STI!!

Hmm you are asking to us but did you ask to her in the first place??

[QUOTE=BrasilSoccer0;2861671]This is a sweet school girl who after a month of not seeing her showed up with this!!

What do you this is? Syphilis, herpes. Or heat rash?

And yes Nedy69 it's an ingrown hair. Bravo.

But you lost me when you said to taste it!! To smell is ok. Never put your tounge on a suspected STI!![/QUOTE]

You are looking at another guys dry crusty cum.

What a sweetheart of a schoolgirl!

[QUOTE=BrasilSoccer0;2861671]This is a sweet school girl who after a month of not seeing her showed up with this!!

What do you this is? Syphilis, herpes. Or heat rash?

And yes Nedy69 it's an ingrown hair. Bravo.

But you lost me when you said to taste it!! To smell is ok. Never put your tounge on a suspected STI!![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BrasilSoccer0;2861671]This is a sweet school girl who after a month of not seeing her showed up with this!!

What do you this is? Syphilis, herpes. Or heat rash?

And yes Nedy69 it's an ingrown hair. Bravo.

But you lost me when you said to taste it!! To smell is ok. Never put your tounge on a suspected STI!![/QUOTE]These photos, taken for the gynecology faculty of Pussy University, prove to us that Madagascar girls are a real dirty bunch.

Don't go there. Or wrap up with double condom.

[QUOTE=StudPlayer;2861761]You are looking at another guys dry crusty cum.

What a sweetheart of a schoolgirl![/QUOTE]And I do not share the opinion that the girls are real dirty bunch by the way.

They all liked to shower and were in general very clean and groomed. Well perhaps do to my choice in the first place. LOL.

Unfortunately, the second girl had early stage syphilis which was confirmed in the hospital.

Now, this wasn't the scary part! She is getting 3 strong penicillin weekly shots and anti herpes meds. She is getting much better. I took care of her bill which was a mere 50 k.

The scary part was that she was clueless and didn't think it was a disease growing on her but a heat rash! And worst than her ignorance about STI was the initial doctor's ignorance about her infection. It was only discovered when by chance a well experienced doctor saw her.

The point is, malagasy are innocently ignorant about STIs.

So please examine the girls before you enter them.

My girl was grateful I insisted she goes to see a doctor when initially she genuinely didn't think it was a big deal.

BTW, about a week ago another girl also had some unusual bumps around her V. This one I met 4 the 1st time and she too was clueless and didn't understand why I won't have sex with her.

I'm telling you the level of ignorance is going to spread STIs like wildfires.

Now here is a treat 4 you after grossing you out I'll share an eye candy of the Mahafaly kind. Gentle, soft feet and orgasmic. If you know Mahafaly girls you know they are malagasy men's FAVORITE women.

[QUOTE=BrasilSoccer0;2862220]Unfortunately, the second girl had early stage syphilis which was confirmed in the hospital.

Now, this wasn't the scary part! She is getting 3 strong penicillin weekly shots and anti herpes meds. She is getting much better. I took care of her bill which was a mere 50 k.

The scary part was that she was clueless and didn't think it was a disease growing on her but a heat rash! And worst than her ignorance about STI was the initial doctor's ignorance about her infection. It was only discovered when by chance a well experienced doctor saw her.

The point is, malagasy are innocently ignorant about STIs.

So please examine the girls before you enter them.

My girl was grateful I insisted she goes to see a doctor when initially she genuinely didn't think it was a big deal.

BTW, about a week ago another girl also had some unusual bumps around her V. This one I met 4 the 1st time and she too was clueless and didn't understand why I won't have sex with her.

I'm telling you the level of ignorance is going to spread STIs like wildfires.[/QUOTE]Hey Brasil. Where are you and where is this girl from? Curious, and I wonder if it varies a bit by region.

I posted my thoughts on STDs previously, post #5436. They are really common and you do have to be careful. And for many, the condom is not a sure-fire protections, particularly if is slips down and you get any pussy juices on your cock. I have never been able to avoid getting some pussy juice on my cock, no matter how careful I am with a condom, particularly at the base.

I also wonder if the spread of STDs varies over time, and if it might be particularly bad right now because of the bad economic conditions all of Mada are in right now. Less health care, more girls looking for money, etc.

VL.

BrasilSoccer0 - just tried sending a PM and got bounced back as it is full.

Vavy lover,

Good to hear from you.

The Mahafaly girl has Softer hair and other features. But she is more famous for not having a loud mouth and being more submissive which makes her a good wife.

I also like the bitsemsaraka girl from Tamatave and the Vezo from Toliara and Maskuro from the south also.

But now I am soooo missing my Camagüey, Minas and Santiago de Cuba. I am recalling the tremendous passion of Cuban women. UNMATCHED.

BTW, check out your email.

[QUOTE=VavyLover;2862401]BrasilSoccer0 - just tried sending a PM and got bounced back as it is full.[/QUOTE]

Mongering scene as described here already in many posts.

Stayed at LE Chalet des Roses – rooms ok, close to center / mongering scene – just a 5 minutes walk via the stairways towards LE Glacier.

- but lots of tourist groups. So be aware of the "walk of shame".

LE Glacier: girls start to show up at around 17:30 h, bands start playing at around 19:00 h (if there is a band palying that night).

Taxi back at around 21 h – negotiated 8. 000 MAG.

Checked some hotels for future travels (all prices quoted Oct 2023 - 1 night. For 2 persons):

LE Glacier – old style rooms, but close to the scene – some rooms cost 65.000 MAG (rooms 115-122 & 210,212-213), some 60.000 MAG – rooms to the back oft he hotel seem to be quieter.

Sole Hotel – better style rooms – close tot he scene – SW across the street (but low quality) – standard room 135.000 MAG (e. G. 304 – corner room), studio 205.000 MGA (e. G. 305).

Palm Hotel – standard 98.000 MAG; suite 150.000 MAG.

Central Hotel. Standard double 198.000 MAG (incl. Continental breakfast).

Tsanga Tsanga – standard double 252.000 MAG (incl. Continental breakfast).

Laid back town (3rd biggest in Madagascar) – quiet at night (maybe also due to my visit during the week).

No action observed – cannot confirm the SW scene at Ave. De la Gare (as mentioned in another post of a fellow monger).

For touristic reasons (city and surrounding volcanic lakes) the place is ok, bur for mongering reasons you can skip it.

Stayed at Residence Carmelie – rooms ok, close to center – cannot say anything about girl-friendliness.

Stayed in a hotel at the beach. With some friends.

SW can be found around 6-9 pm at the main road. Roaming the street. Just hit them up. It is really easy even with my basic French.

First night:

I just chatted on girl up and off we went to the nearby Hotel Kily on the main road (basic hotel, 40.000 MAG a night).

She was 19 years old and sweet like hell. Agreed on 40.000 MAG for all night. Was a great GFE. DFK, DATY, BBBJ, bareback fucking in all positions. I was her first Vazaha (at least she said) .

Second night:

Had no chance to sneak away, but made an „appointment" with a sweet girl for the next night.

Third night:

Met the girl from day 2 and after some drinks went to the Hotel LE Relais (basic bungalow) . She was also19 years old. Agreed on 50.000 MAG for all night. Was a great GFE. DFK, DATY, BBBJ, bareback fucking in all positions.

You are doing alright mate. If I ever head back to Tulear after my last dull visit I must get out of town for a while. Your 2 are better than 90% of what I saw walking around Tulear, not that there were many in the first place.

[QUOTE=DarsVeider;2864047]Mongering scene as described here already in many posts.

Sole Hotel better style rooms close tot he scene SW across the street (but low quality) standard room 135.000 MAG (e. G. 304 corner room), studio 205.000 MGA (e. G. 305).

Palm Hotel standard 98.000 MAG; suite 150.000 MAG.

Central Hotel. Standard double 198.000 MAG (incl. Continental breakfast).

Tsanga Tsanga standard double 252.000 MAG (incl. Continental breakfast).[/QUOTE]Sole hotel many years was my favourite place and I still like it now so many good memories from here, but 135 k price tag to book direct at reception its a bit to much for this hotel its not worth this money as hotel. I booked sole hotel 1 month ago on booking app for my December trip and its cost just 17 pound=(93 k ariary per night included breakfast for 2 person) which is 30 percent cheaper than reception price and I can cancel free of charge anytime in case I change my mind to stay here. Most of the times hotels at receptions is cheaper than reserve online but not always so best to check both prices and compare.

Hello all, I'm not a Madagascar newbie but I am new to Mahajanga. Where is most of the action here? Any must see places?

[QUOTE=Oschino2;2864692]Hello all, I'm not a Madagascar newbie but I am new to Mahajanga. Where is most of the action here? Any must see places?[/QUOTE]Early evening between 16 pm-8 pm walk at (promenade) BD Poincarre street its a long street near the sea you can't miss it many people come here to sit at evening also many girls who willing to go with you.

AT night time go to discos and bars like LE Zanzibar (ex taxi be) , club 73 ,ravinala hotel. I like mahajanga like a town but for mongering has better places been here twice but both times after one week I run away at its getting bored here. I suggest you go here on weekend if you want have more fun at nightlife.

[QUOTE=Oschino2;2864692]Hello all, I'm not a Madagascar newbie but I am new to Mahajanga. Where is most of the action here? Any must see places?[/QUOTE]There are some older posts in the forum you can RTFF so I would start there.

My last visit was in 2019 so my experience pre-pandemic and dated. The only club I hit was Taxi Be (I think Pokeris said it is now called Zanzibar?) Not very busy, moderate talent there, found a not-so-pretty tiny spinner with a rockin body (a common theme in Mahajanga I think) that was to my liking and had a fun night. In general I found the town to be pretty quiet for mongering compared to my experience 10 years earlier. In 2010 I had a blast at Shakira, and a couple other places, including a pool table bar called Blues Rock Cafe which was on second floor above a disco I don't remember name of, on a corner near the port. Never found that place in 2019.

I also had luck finding girls on Facebook, just browsing profiles and friending hot girls a month or so before my trip. Set up an afternoon with a hottie, nuellahstone1334, very friendly, 19 at the time, gave me her phone number after just a little chatting, and when I got to Mahajanga came right over to fuck like crazy for a couple hours. She has a baby now, so her amazing body will be less pristine and she might not be as available. I contact a few others that did not respond when I got to Mahajanga, or just stiffed me. But I think you can generally tell who is advertising on Facebook. I would try this one if I was going there soon. Nancy Fabiolah [URL]https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100091829687850[/URL].

Have fun and report back.

VL.

Thanks for the tips on Mahajanga. I've RTFF quite a bit but haven't seen anything on Ile Sainte Marie / Nosy Boraha, is there action or is it too small and best to bring your own there?

[QUOTE=MxTH9;2846960]Hi,

Every hotel in nosy be ambatoloaka have security 24 h24?

I would like pick 2 or 3 girl. It is possible? Or some hotel say no?

Do the girls between them accept that we take several girls?

What hotel you recommend for this?

Thank you.[/QUOTE]A friend of mine is currently staying at Hotel Ambatoloaka, he is staying in a Double Room with 1 queen size bed. He often brings 2 Malagasy women back to his room and all of them fit comfortably in his bed. That hotel also has a Family Room that has 2 queen size beds, so you should be able to comfortably fit 5+ Malagasy women in the beds in that room. That hotel has 24 hour security which will keep the Identification card of the Malagasy women while they are guests in your room. When I visit my friend in the hotel lobby, I often see 80 - 90+ year old French men with beautiful 20 year old Malagasy women who serve as their cane / walker / nurse / masseuse and without their assistance, I don't think these men would be able to walk up the stairs. Madagascar is an interesting place.

I am currently staying in Ambatoloaka in Nosy Be, I am not sure yet how long I will be in Madagascar, probably until at least early January 2024.

Please contact me if someone would like to meet up sometime for a drink.

I have not been since before Covid so my experience / opinion may be dated. That said I found the place dull as dishwater. Beautiful spots around the island but that didn't make up for the lack of infrastructure, lack of girls, lack of places to eat, higher prices general boredom and power cuts for hours every day. If none of that bothers you give it a go. It is also a royal pain in the ass to get to and away from.

If you go I would take a girl with you. Many girls in Tamatave would be thrilled with an all expenses paid vacation there.

I was thinking to go there too, plenty of time to do so. Thanks for the information anyway. Just did take a look at this beauty on FB and to me it is the made up appearance of a full pro girl with all its good an bad aspects that comes with it, that has to bee too bee taken in consideration I think. Take a look at her friends list made me wonder who of them is in the forum too or at least was her client. It has been said, create perhaps a separate account to avoid that.

Not my piece of cake therefore.

[QUOTE=Tinte;2866434]I was thinking to go there too, plenty of time to do so. Thanks for the information anyway. Just did take a look at this beauty on FB and to me it is the made up appearance of a full pro girl with all its good an bad aspects that comes with it, that has to bee too bee taken in consideration I think. Take a look at her friends list made me wonder who of them is in the forum too or at least was her client. It has been said, create perhaps a separate account to avoid that.

Not my piece of cake therefore.[/QUOTE]Yes agreed about Fabiolah, but there are many and all types. And most have a Friends list of all men (mostly older). I think it has become the way to find men for girls of the whole spectrum. I hooked up with one in Nosy Be whose FB page read as sweet and innocent, turned out to be wildly PSE, incredible and a lot of fun. So it is not always obvious.

[QUOTE=VavyLover;2866844]Yes agreed about Fabiolah, but there are many and all types. And most have a Friends list of all men (mostly older). I think it has become the way to find men for girls of the whole spectrum. I hooked up with one in Nosy Be whose FB page read as sweet and innocent, turned out to be wildly PSE, incredible and a lot of fun. So it is not always obvious.[/QUOTE]Already long time ago was clear the best looking girls in Madagascar are on facebook. Some of them you will never find at discos and bars as they don't want to be seen here. Most of the African girls nowadays use smartphones as its plenty cheap Chinese models around so they all love facebook, tiktok and another social media. Every year at madagascarar the quality of the girls at discos is fallng down, same with street girls. I like to combine all types of finding girls: like going discos, facebook girls, talking on street, waitress, and so on to get best results but honestly 60-70 percent my best catch coming from facebook so many sweet girls here. Its comfortable to find girls this way: like example you arrive new city tired of long journey and already have list of the girls who can come your hotel so you not need go at night to look for it or you wake up early in the morning and already can invite girl to your hotel as they already playing their facebooks from early morning as they buy bundles and use it for cheap. And its not something similar like booking escort from website (where you buying cat in the bag) with most of the times fakes photos or hardly photoshoped (never was a fan of escort sites). Facebook girls most of the times has plenty videos of them and photos so you can see what you will get. I admit many mada girls like a bit editing their profile photos to become more white, but if you ask them to send photo now without editing most of the girls will do it. So the most the times becomes you get what you see. I know some of us on this forum still living at stone age and try to find girls with stone age phones also but its becomes more hard as girls becomes more modern every year!!

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2866865]A SNiP I like to combine all types of finding girls: like going discos, facebook girls, talking on street, waitress, and so on to get best results but honestly 60-70 percent my best catch coming from facebook so many sweet girls here. SNiP !![/QUOTE]Hey, I never understood how FB works to find girls!? OK; Tinder: you type in the town and tons of girls are showing up.

But now I did FB and search "Madagascar girls".

And I don't see much! OK "Girls of Madagascar" is showing up and you can scroll 3 girls?

And also "Les " Beautiful girls" de Madagascars " shows up- one girls seems to show up. But I don't really know how to proceed when on such a site?

Please explain.

Auro.

[QUOTE=JohnAuro;2867018]Hey, I never understood how FB works to find girls!? OK; Tinder: you type in the town and tons of girls are showing up.

But now I did FB and search "Madagascar girls".

And I don't see much! OK "Girls of Madagascar" is showing up and you can scroll 3 girls?

And also "Les " Beautiful girls" de Madagascars " shows up- one girls seems to show up. But I don't really know how to proceed when on such a site?

Please explain.

Auro.[/QUOTE]First you need add some mada girls as your friends or just find girls profiles from mada go to their friend list look the other girls profies you like and send friend reguest for them and start to chat. It take time to make your own list with girls but it worth it!! Look I share photo with some girls names from madagascar so you can start from it and create your own list slowly.

[QUOTE=JohnAuro;2867018]Hey, I never understood how FB works to find girls!? OK; Tinder: you type in the town and tons of girls are showing up.

But now I did FB and search "Madagascar girls".

And I don't see much! OK "Girls of Madagascar" is showing up and you can scroll 3 girls?

And also "Les " Beautiful girls" de Madagascars " shows up- one girls seems to show up. But I don't really know how to proceed when on such a site?

Please explain.

Auro.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.facebook.com/groups/672340277115605/permalink/1061036018246027/[/URL]

It is just a start. Scroll and add friends and friends of them. Then use messenger.

Good luck.

There is a curfew in Tana at 2100 tonight.

If you're an American I recommend enrolling in STEP now.

In Tamatave at the moment and nothing out of the ordinary here, at least so far. There is a ban on alcohol sales today though. I went to La Terasse for lunch and asked for a THB. Imagine my surprise when she brought me a big teapot. I thought WTF? I figured that's what they were giving everyone gratis instead of alcohol. Even more surprise when I poured the "tea" and it foamed up! Yup. Works for me.

Just as glad not to be in Tana right now. If anything nasty is going to break out, that's probably the place.

[QUOTE=BrasilSoccer0;2869037]There is a curfew in Tana at 2100 tonight.

If you're an American I recommend enrolling in STEP now.[/QUOTE]Apparently they postponed the election for a week. That is today. My friends wrote yesterday. It was supposed to be a week ago on the 9th. That's why there's a curfew on today. The opposition wants to get rid of the DJ. Normal procedure. How did he come to power? He ousted someone. So he might be ousted as well. Suspense. Suspense.

Read:

[URL]https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-67426287[/URL]

La Buse.

Who finds that elections are never a good time to visit. LOL.

In „LE glacier" THB out of the tea pot.

They say we have a new on.

Voting for the presidential election occurred on Thursday, November 16,2023. Wednesday night before election day, LE Taxi Be and Bar Afro on Walking Street in Ambatoloaka closed up just before 0 h because there is a ban on selling alcohol during the presidential election and they were still closed the night of the election, although Zeburger restaurant and a few other restaurants have remained open. I enjoy the lively nighttime atmosphere of Walking Street in Ambatoloaka but when LE Taxi Be and Bar Afro are closed, there are no longer many people walking on Walking Street and the ratio of French senior citizens to attractive young Malagasy women is much higher, the complete reverse of a normal night when the attractive young Malagasy women far outnumber the French senior citizens.

Since I enjoy watching all of the attractive young Malagasy women on Walking Street and I have no desire to look at French senior citizens, I hope that LE Taxi Be and Bar Afro open back up soon. Hopefully LE Taxi Be and Bar Afro will open Friday night so that the nightlife will resume back to normal. I spoke to someone last night who thinks those bars may open Friday night since voting for the election is over but the alcohol ban may also remain in effect until after all of the votes are counted. Madagascar seems to have a history of riots, civil unrest, curfews, etc around the time of elections as do many other African countries. For someone who enjoys an active nightlife, it might be best to avoid Madagascar during the time around a presidential election.

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I was walking in Ambatoloaka just before dusk and I was pleased and relieved to see L,e Taxi Be and Bar Afro open again and serving alcohol, so it seems that things are back to normal. Without the bars open in Ambatoloaka and without many young Malagasy women there at night, the place feels like a retirement community in France.

Nice and chill spot for a few days, I enjoyed it but definitely BYOP. Almost no selection on the ground.

2 month traveling solo, here are some thoughts and tips.

1. Money: Citibank master card withdrawals were free at MCB and Access Bank. Costed 9500 AR at SocGen. Did not work at BNI.

2. Phone:

2.1. If you are going to stay for some time, you need Telma AND Orange (if your phone is dual sim). This is because you need Telma because everybody has Telma, and you need Orange if you want (weaker network but) faster data. Now you will ask me: how does weaker network goes with faster data? The problem with Telma is not the network strength, but too many people using. Orange on the other hand does not have that problem.

2.2. Install the apps, make life much easier. For Telma: "Telma & Moi" and for Orange: "Orange Money" then select Madagascar once in the app.

2.3. 4 G is basically everywhere. And while decent hotel usually have fiber, they use cheap / weak rooter, and the wifi in the room might not be good.

3. Security: After reading on this forum and listening to people around me I got the impression that Madagascar is a dangerous place and you need to be very careful. Now let me explain: it all depends where you are!

3.1. Tana (short name for Antananarivo): It definitely is dangerous. I met 15 girls, they all tell me stories about how they got attacked (local girls) with knives to cut of their handbag and run with it. Many people have 2 phones: a dumb phone in case they get attacked or to show in public and a smart phone well hidden. You should not walk in the night. In the day it is fine but be alert of your surroundings, don't stop in the street or on a bench.

3.2. Tamatave and Maganga: I have not been there, so I can only relate what I heard from locals: less bad than Tana (by a lot I think), but you still need to be carefull.

3.3. Morondava and all the towns along the National 7 highway (Antsirabe, Ambusitra, Fianaratsoa, Tulear): this is a totally different ball game! Super safe, go partying, at 3 am decide to go home walking, streets are dark and empty, nothing will ever happen to you. The dream really. You can sit in public and will never be bothered. Honestly for me this was a gamechanger, providing ability to get girls in the street, and hence I spend all my time on the N7 and morondava. This also allows you to see the 2 jewels of Madagascar: Isalo and Tsingy.

3.4. The road outside cities: Clearly cars and busses don't want to be alone on the roads after dark. I saw cars and busses wait 1 h just to travel in big groups, and once I got the army to give my bus an escort. What is the change that something will happen high? Very low, but something happened once 2 years ago, and now people don't want to risk it. Local are pretty risk averse and security conscious (must be their Asian genes).

4. Food: First of all, Madagascar is not at all like Africa. French influence is huge here and food is delicious everywhere and all the time. Did I get sick? Of course, twice from undercooked meat. I never got sick from ice in drinks or from vegetables. Only uncooked meat (medium rear). Given the prices, I ate in the best restaurant I could find in each town I went (some of them high end, some of them basic). Best restaurant I ate at:

4.1. Tana: Sakamanga.

4.2. Antsirabe: Entre 2 mer, Valahala caf, chez Dom, Contero.

4.3. Ambositra: nothing much to note there.

4.4. Fionaratsoa: The restaurant of the Zomatel hotel.

4.5. Morondava: Bleu soleil.

5. Electricity: Power cuts are common in Tana, and some other place but: inexisistant in Antsirabe and most other cities along the N7. Why? I think there is hydroelectric power generation nearby and hence they rely less on Jirama (the local electricity company). Note: when power cuts, most hotel have generators, and 4 G never ever stops!

6. Transportation: This is not well documented, but there are a number of company running professional bus services (departure on time, reserved seats, and security first). Cotise is the most famous (and Nation wide), but there are many others (I used Soatrans on the N7). They are easy to use, either go to their office to book a ticket or call them and pay using Orange Money or Mvola (Telma). You can book 2 seats if you want more space, I often did that for my long legs and by backpack.

7. Hotels:
- Never book online, always call them. It's always cheaper. They don't asked for payment, just your name. Super easy.
- I travelled with 2 laptops and 2 phones, and never got anything stolen. Most of the time I would keep cash in my backpack and leave it in the room with a lock on it.
- I read recommendation to always lock your door when you are in your room. This is a good tip, especially in Tana.
- Hotels in Tana had security: they take a copy of your passport and check IDs of girls and take copy. Hotels outside Tana had none of that: none of them ever asked to see my passport and never checked girls IDs.
- Bringing 2 girls in your rooms: no big deals.
- Airbnbs are significantly more expensive than hotels (especially when booked direct by phone). Also, I truly enjoyed all the help I got from receptions, in term of knowing which bus to take, what was safe and what was not, sometimes even where to find girls. None of them seemed judgmental regarding the girls (3 a day made they smile and laugh).

8. Guides: most places that are good to visit have compulsory guide. The fees are really high, and the guide only gets about 30% of the fee you pay. A few tips:

8.1. In some places the guide fee is actually negotiable (Isalo's 175 k went down to 100 k because I was alone).

8.2. Most guides are bad and not so nice. When you go to the guide office, they will assign you the next guide in the queue (they all get a number every morning) but you can actually request any available guide. My tips is: always choose your guide yourself. How? First of all if there are any women, go for that (#promote women). If not, chat with a few and see how you get along. After you choose your guide, you basically make him skip the whole queue, he will be grateful and nicer already. Last: focus on younger ones.

8.3. Tell the guide you hope to get laid in the night, and he will bring you to karaoke or set you up.

9. Condoms:
Durex: good and expensive.
Plez: cheap and shit. Honestly, those are not properly lubricated and break super easy.
Soft: cheap and good, especially they have a "soft space" that is wider and longer (15 k for 12 condoms in pharmacy).

10. HIV tests: I think not too difficult to find, but I did not do any. I went to clinic onces, but no test on Sundays. In Mada, everything is closed on Sundays!

11. Poverty and chocolate:

11.1. I found Madagascar a lot less poor than expected (based on GDP / capita figures). I struggle to find many people that lack food or homes. Of course, there are a lot of homeless in Tana, but a lot less than in San Francisco. When I met people who seems poor (like girls selling Yaourt in the street) I often ask what they eat. The Answer was always Rice, then I would ask "rice with what? Answer: Fish, Beef or Chicken, it depends. .

11.2. At least in the place I went I did not see a single person who seemed suffering from malnutrition.

11.3. The reason for the disconnect is the "self-sustaining economy": if you get up in the morning and go carve the mountain to get stone and build yourself a house, and then for lunch you eat your own duck and for dinner you go get a fish in the river, and collect some rice and veggies on your land: you generate 0 GDP. And there is a lot of that in Madagascar, while there is none of that in Europe, and in big cities in general.

11.4. While poor girls might eat beef and fish every day, they don't eat chocolate (Robert is the local brand, cost around 1 USD per 75 gr tablet). Every girl I had in my room looked at the chocolate on the table and asked for a piece! Just make sure you are well stocked up.


12. And finally the best for the end: Girls: Tana: a lot has been written here but to summarize:
- Manson (up the street from Sakamanga, and yes you can walk that street even in the night): 100% hookers. Asking 100 k, will settle for 60 k, but then will ask for 15 k for taxi (which is true cost 15 k and is expensive for locals).
- Taxi be: same but 65% hookers.
- Kudeta: 0% hookers.
- Tinder: you will find MANY girls there, some for money and fun, some girls for serious relationships, etc. All kinds. But all of them have a decent smartphone and most of them are looking for foreigners which are good starting points.
- Facebook of course is possible, but I am not good at this and it take more time, because not all girls are open / available.

13. And finally the best for the end: Girls: Everywhere else I went (Morondava, National 7 towns, and small villages):
- Everywhere has Karaoke (more active in the week end than on Monday night) and that is a great way to meet people. I say people, but you are as likely to get laid if you meet guys than girls. This is because in Madagascar sex is normal, no big deal and easy going. So if you make some local guy friend, when they ask if you are looking for girls, say yes. They will call some friends, and introduce you. Also, in these small cities / villages, everybody knows everybody: so they will also intro you to the girl at the table next to yours with who you have been exchanging smiles for the past 15 minutes. Where are those Karaoke? Ask the velo-pousse / pousse pousse / taxi. Don't be shy.
- The Street! You walk in the street, you walk slowly, you pass by a girl you like, you smile at her. If she smiles back (35% of the time), after you crossed her you slow down and look back and smile, she will do the same. At this point you stop and walk towards her, she will immediately stop and wait for you. You say Hi, how is your day, 2-3 minutes no more. Then take your phone and present it to her for her to put her number in. Deal is done. I got at least 5 girls like that all the way from poor to rich.
- There are also street hookers, some good experience and some bad:
1. Antsirabe: in front of Diamond hotel (across the street) after 7 pm. Low end hookers, who agreed 30 k so quickly that I knew the price must be 15 k. Honestly, you can do better than that. These are cheap trash.
2. Ambositra: in google map type: "fert / cap Malagasy". There are street bars there with girls drinking. Feels a lot less like hookers, but all of them will go home with you. The girl I took home did not even talk money until I said: 30 k, ok? She just said "sure". She was nice and sweet and kissed really well. Spend the night and was happy.
3. Fianaratsoa: mostly normal girls who need money, they walk around in the center (from Ave du general Leclerc in front of Soratel walk towards Madagascar hotel, then alliance francaise then in front of zomatel, then back down towards Vannie hotel). If you see a girl a 10 pm walking alone, she is looking for money. Now these were not hard core hookers, so they can be shy and you actually need to go and talk to them. But the streets are dead empty at night, so at least no one looks at you.
4. In smaller places like Ranohira (next to Isalo) or Bekopaka (next to Tsingy) your best bet is to ask your guide and he will set you up with a local girl who he knows needs money.

- The. Social economic classes: I dated / fucked all the way from richest of the city, to super poor, and the best is middle class. Why? The poors have fucked up theeths and don't taste so great (neither the mouth or the vagina). And after you spend a nice night with a hot babe, it is never great to a message saying "send me money, I am sick". The rich eat to much and are too fat for my taste. The middle class speak French (or sometimes English) and it is nice to talk also, as to learn about local culture. With middle class, you are more likely to get a message like "this was fun last night, let's do that again? How to identify middle class: look at teeth, shoes and nails.

E. Sexual practices:
- Of course Anal sex is rare, but not too rare (2 in 20, but for both of them it was the first time, so clearly not something locals do).
- Annal rimming happened to me a lot. Usually, I do it first and then see if the girl does it to me. Many did.
- I do oral sex on every girls I sleep with (ie make them cum by licking their vagina / clitoris, before fucking them). For most of them, it was the first time, hence also not something that locals do. Most of them truly enjoyed, I could see on their face "ho my god it is happening to me". Some of them did not want and said it is "taboo", but after insisting a little, they loved it too.
- There are no vibros in Madagascar. Apparently Vibro imports are not allowed. So take some with you. I did not meet many girls who wanted to try, but the ones who did wanted to keep it.
- Most girls will do raw. Some of them have never seen a condom and don't fully know about the benefits. I had girls who were afraid to have penetrative sex because they were afraid to have baby, and did not understand that it won't happen with condoms.
- Shower before sex is common. Most girls don't have hot water or raining shower in their home, so they will enjoy their time in your shower. Don't be surprised if their shower lasts 10 minutes, just go with them in the shower.
- Most girls are fully shaved.

8. All guys are cut. So if you are not, that might surprise the girl a little.

9. All girls suck row. None of them (out of around 20) could properly deeptrought. But all of them were ok with facefucking and cumming in their mouth. None of them swallowed (except 1, kind of).

10. Threesome: well it is very easy to get 2 girls in your bed and fuck both, but for me that is not a 3 some. Finding 2 girls that want to sleep with each other, that is a 3 some. Totally possible, but require proactive asking.

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12. Problems: none of them tried to steal anything from me, none of them made any problem. Some of them ask for tips or taxi money. Many did not ask for money at all and were surprised and grateful when I gave. My standard for gifts (ie were price was not agreed beforehand) was 40 k. Most seemed very happy with that.

13. Language: as it has been said you will have a lot more fun if you speak French, but many poors don't and more and more people are trying English also.

14. Culture: so so so French. The way Malagash raise their kids! Ho my god, so French! Even people who can't speak French can sing French songs. There is only Malagash (40%) and French (40%) music here. The remaining is very small: 10% African, 10% English.

Overall Madagascar is super fun, and very safe (outside Tana and highways).

Now I am going back for another month. I am hesitating between Tamatave (Toamasina) and Mahaganga (Majunga). Consideration:

- Food.

- Cost of accommodation (my budget is 25 usd / night).

- Cost of transportation (velo pousse or only taxi?

- Girls.

- Weather.

I heard good things about Mahaganga, but the weather now is 35 degree and 90% humidity! Not great.

Actually I prefer the mountains, but I don't think there is much more for me to see there.

Any andvice? Also looking for tip on which hotel to stay at in these towns.

[QUOTE=DanielDuran;2875645]Now I am going back for another month. I am hesitating between Tamatave (Toamasina) and Mahaganga (Majunga). Consideration:

- Food.

- Cost of accommodation (my budget is 25 usd / night).

- Cost of transportation (velo pousse or only taxi?

- Girls.

- Weather.

I heard good things about Mahaganga, but the weather now is 35 degree and 90% humidity! Not great.

Actually I prefer the mountains, but I don't think there is much more for me to see there.

Any andvice? Also looking for tip on which hotel to stay at in these towns.[/QUOTE]You have the choice. Tamatave is of course cooler as is the whole east coast. But. It also has the highest precipitation in all Madagascar. Expect rains and lots of it. Mahajanga is stifling hot. Mafan Be. I'd only visit between April and September. The best place to spend Cyclone / rain season is actually Antananarivo. Take your pick.

La Buse.

By and large a good report. Except. I'd NEVER WALK 3 am in the morning. You can be robbed in any town in Madagascar. Never walk on foot. Of course the roads are deserted. Even the police locks themselves in after 10 pm. Only because nothing happened to you doesn't mean it's safe. I never walk on foot after 9 pm. Take a posse or taxi or tuktuk.

La Buse.

Visited BMOI bank in Nosy Be (Hellville) and saw a new sign on the ATM that it now accepts MasterCard. So I attempted to withdraw 800.000ar with my MasterCard, and it worked. The machine dispensed 40 bills of 20.000ar in a single transaction.

When I returned to Ambatoaloka, I tried again with my MasterCard at the BMOI machine. It also worked.

Very convenient. No longer need to travel to LeaderPrice (MCB bank) for MasterCard withdrawals.

[QUOTE=ChocolateHuntr;2875754]Visited BMOI bank in Nosy Be (Hellville) and saw a new sign on the ATM that it now accepts MasterCard. So I attempted to withdraw 800.000ar with my MasterCard, and it worked. The machine dispensed 40 bills of 20.000ar in a single transaction.

When I returned to Ambatoaloka, I tried again with my MasterCard at the BMOI machine. It also worked.

Very convenient. No longer need to travel to LeaderPrice (MCB bank) for MasterCard withdrawals.[/QUOTE]I tried today BNI cash machine the one close to djembe disco at nosybe today seems they start accepting mastercard again after 2-3 years gap but the problem they introduce 12 k charge on the top which is written on screen before you accept it. Exchange rate was perfect for mastercard its much better which I am getting from BMOI cash machine with my other visa card. Mastercard gives better exchange rates when visa most of the times. Its good news BMOi start accepting mastercard I even didint notice it and was using visa card instead. Will try after few days the one near pharmacy at ambatoaloka and will look what exchange rate I am getting. If you still at nosybe give me a shout I will stay here till after Christmas.

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2867037]First you need add some mada girls as your friends or just find girls profiles from mada go to their friend list look the other girls profies you like and send friend reguest for them and start to chat. It take time to make your own list with girls but it worth it!! Look I share photo with some girls names from madagascar so you can start from it and create your own list slowly.[/QUOTE]Start to look for local university pages and groups. You add some girls from there, then Facebook will suggest a few more, and you'll connect with friends of friends. But in Africa you don't need Facebook. Facebook is good for Colombia, because girls are very active on Facebook there.

[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2877286]Start to look for local university pages and groups. You add some girls from there, then Facebook will suggest a few more, and you'll connect with friends of friends. But in Africa you don't need Facebook. Facebook is good for Colombia, because girls are very active on Facebook there.[/QUOTE]Seems you don't have any clue what you are talking about or you never been Madagascar! If you saying Madagascar girls is not active on facebook!!

Yes they are crazy about facebook in Madagascar!!

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2877488]Seems you don't have any clue what you are talking about or you never been Madagascar! If you saying Madagascar girls is not active on facebook!![/QUOTE]

Perhaps that's why they are so crazy about it. Down the ladder is WhatsApp next to SMS.

With a actual clue about Mada and its girls you won't need that at all.

[QUOTE=ChocolateHuntr;2875754]Visited BMOI bank in Nosy Be (Hellville) and saw a new sign on the ATM that it now accepts MasterCard. So I attempted to withdraw 800.000ar with my MasterCard, and it worked. The machine dispensed 40 bills of 20.000ar in a single transaction.

When I returned to Ambatoaloka, I tried again with my MasterCard at the BMOI machine. It also worked.

Very convenient. No longer need to travel to LeaderPrice (MCB bank) for MasterCard withdrawals.[/QUOTE]Its worked for me today also with mastercard 1. 2 million in one go no charges near pharmacy at ambatoaloka also it gives very good exchange rate for mastercard.

In the past I flew in with AF, the ex colonist.

This time Ethiopian from Europe for cheap 830 EUR. Food and Bord Entertainment is low class. But no other complains. By the way the run a office just next to LE glacier.

The real decision maker is the arrival time, mid day!

You get a taxi for 40 K to the center or as I did, take the city bus line the for as low as 8 K. Mora mora! The one I jumped on asked for 14 K and the handled me twice over to a other bus. Pas du probleme! No rip off, nice city tour.

As for me, I have spend some time in Mada again and felt more settled in than ever. One could still tell me I had no clue, but I do give a shit for that. As I would recommend do do so for other forum members too. As each of us has a different approach, taste, skills, POV. You name it.

Just go and visit or read the posts here and make up your mind.

The place is a institution, in Tana the place to bee at any open time. To me has not chanced a lot, except this year very few vahazas. Any time you can meet cute girls from all over Mada but the majority are a bit outdated.

Have a talk with the friendly Basque man often sitting next to the entrance. He tells you facts about the feeling of being a expat in Tana on a budget and the girls and the business in general. Just opposite, Gastro pizza: a good variety of clean food for cheap. Lots of middle class locals Familys in groups, not paying any attention to you at all.

Just minutes after my arrival at the hotel I hit the road again for LE Glacier. Welcome back: A icy cold THB raining down my dusty throat, but no, a poor selection of girls and no interesting vahaza to talk with. So just after emptying my bottle I walked down Lalana Refotana towards Sole Hotel where around campus France a street vendor girl got my attention. I stoppend looked back and smiled, she smiled back. I went back and said Bonjour, she replied and made a quick conversation with her parents (. She got up, I asked her for a walk and off we went together.

Twenty minutes after we were under the warm shower with she could enjoy endlessly. The deed was just fine and after I gave her 20 K. She happy again and left.

Welcome to Madagaskar, me with a smile on my face.

A few hours drive by taxi brousse from Tamatave gets you there for cheap. You get the choice of a abundance of beach Bungalows, mine costed me 60 K. Nice endless clean beach and good food. All very clean and tidy. You can visit the fort.

End of the story.

Groups of upper class Malagasy absolute cool and not friendly. Food rather expensive and since the Gassy do not eat at the beach restaurants the owners having a hard time chasing the last few vahazas in a rather aggressive way, same applies for beach activities and the massages performed by old chubby ladies. " mora mora, I am staying here two weeks" that stops it. LOL.

The town is nice with a few places to eat and drink. All people nicely dressed. Interestingly, no beggars at all! No old, no young.

Having said this, no girls to bee seen waiting for vahazas. But it fits all together nicely and tells you something.

It has been said bevor, bring your girl from Tamatave with you.

Thats not mine for more than two nights. By by!

With her parents? Haha.
By the way which hotel do you stay?



[QUOTE=Tinte;2879123]Just minutes after my arrival at the hotel I hit the road again for LE Glacier. Welcome back: A icy cold THB raining down my dusty throat, but no, a poor selection of girls and no interesting vahaza to talk with. So just after emptying my bottle I walked down Lalana Refotana towards Sole Hotel where around campus France a street vendor girl got my attention. I stoppend looked back and smiled, she smiled back. I went back and said Bonjour, she replied and made a quick conversation with her parents (. She got up, I asked her for a walk and off we went together.

Twenty minutes after we were under the warm shower with she could enjoy endlessly. The deed was just fine and after I gave her 20 K. She happy again and left.

Welcome to Madagaskar, me with a smile on my face.[/QUOTE]

Well, what's your Haha about?

Actually, I asked my self too and it got cut off in the poste. . parents (Elder People to bee neutral or actually I guess the one could have bee the mother ho pushed her daughter.

Relatives, friends what ever, but they took over the kiosk, stall for the time I guess or she was visiting at the time as well. Did not make great of a difference to me at the time. But you are right it does make a different if you start to think about the girls motivation in general to go with a Vahaza like that.

Welcome.

[QUOTE=Tinte;2879187]

Having said this, no girls to bee seen waiting for vahazas. But it fits all together nicely and tells you something.

It has been said bevor, bring your girl from Tamatave with you.

Thats not mine for more than two nights. By by![/QUOTE]Foulpointe a hotspot for chasseur vahaza. Curious "forys" everywhere. No need to carry sand to the beach.

"Thats not mine" = wrong approach.

I always liked the place. Place to eat was Zandina, you can watch the pedestrians, Breakfast spot is Mirana were Vahazas meet.

The Grand Avenue ist still a hook up strip during daytime, watch for red lips. After 4 years the public toilet still not finished yet. The area Diamant is a lost place.

I got chattend up by a black spinner girl at the avenue, gorgeous. She guided me to " Etoil des neiges " where she sung karaoke. After we went to " La Vaginette " , a " boit de nuit" males pay 5 K entrance where the name is Programme.

After the first round at the hotel room, I shaved her first under her arms and after her pussy. I gave her 40 K in the morning and we made a date for the evening. To my surprise she came with a good looking friend. After some talking we decided to go strait to the hotel. The new girls undressed, took a shower and I shaved her as promised too. She enjoined it much while the first watched Tv. After the shave I fucked her and the first was watching. I gave her 20 k and she left happy.

Dressed my self and we two went for diner. After diner, the same procedure as usual.

In the six weeks I shaved around 15 girls, moste of them did not have much to shave anyway, just a proper clean up. All enjoyed it and got hot wile I could examine their pussy and got hot again my self.

I was always at night with the first girl together, we visited the Vulcan lake, Lac Tritriva by Tuktuc 25 K. On the Way you passe THB. Either true or not she told me her story why she is doing so. Separat story.

Just walking of the Grand Avenue down to the thermal bath, there ist a public toilet to the right. Two attraktive good dressed girls do offer the service in there. Blow job, pee assistance and fuck.

Well, than I just missed the day or the moment.

At La Terasse in Tamatave, a girl made the suggestion to go to foulpoint together but since I never had any problems to finde girls I thought no need for that. On the other hand I came to the conclusion, if there are so few vahazas no reason to for the girls to go out hunting them.

[QUOTE=Tinte;2879399]I always liked the place. Place to eat was Zandina, you can watch the pedestrians, Breakfast spot is Mirana were Vahazas meet.

In the six weeks I shaved around 15 girls, moste of them did not have much to shave anyway, just a proper clean up. All enjoyed it and got hot wile I could examine their pussy and got hot again my self.

[/QUOTE]That's quite surprising, I had more than 20 girls, and they were all shaved already (if I recall well).

I just don't want people to think it's a jungle here.

[QUOTE=Kako123;2879197]With her parents? Haha.
By the way which hotel do you stay?[/QUOTE]Ho yes, that's no surprise.

I once partied with Mother, daughter and cousins. Mother was telling me: "my daughter is drunk, don't fuck her tonight, fuck her tomorrow. " and then she implied I could fuck her (the mother) tonight instead.

Another time I meet this girl online, it's late already, and we agree to meet at my hotel. She lives in 67 ha (unsafe at nigh) so she explains that her cousin is going to hand-deliver her to me, which he then did. (FYI, this is a situation with no money involved). She is a very muslim girl. I then asked "doesn't you cousin mind you just come here to sleep with me? Answer: "no he agree that this is the best way to forget my ex-boyfriend who was not good to me". Unbelievable.

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2878276]Its worked for me today also with mastercard 1. 2 million in one go no charges near pharmacy at ambatoaloka also it gives very good exchange rate for mastercard.[/QUOTE]On banking note: I withdraw 800 k with SG, fee was 8 k (I think). But then on my statement, I was only charged 800 k, the 8 k just vaniched. Quite interesting really.

Card: Citi Mastercard.

[QUOTE=DanielDuran;2875602]2 month traveling solo, here are some thoughts and tips.[/QUOTE]Hi!

I plan to fool around too, for few weeks. I'm particularly interested to make a road-trip from Tana to Tulear, and then go up along the coast until Morondava.

It seems that you did go to Tulear by the RN7.

Did you rent a car and drive alone?

Then from Morondava, what did you do? Flight to Tana back?

It seems that you traveled alone with no wingman. Except Tana, are there any other place where you could smell danger?

I'm french and have decades of solo travel / work in Africa and Asia, so I know the game.

Thanks for your answers, as I'm planning this road-trip alone.

[QUOTE=NamasteParis;2879536]Hi!

I plan to fool around too, for few weeks. I'm particularly interested to make a road-trip from Tana to Tulear, and then go up along the coast until Morondava..[/QUOTE]Along the coast from Tulear to Morondava: sand, sand, sand. An extreme trip with a well equipped 4 x 4. But wonderful stops in lodges in the different bays for 2 or 3 days: Salary bay, Ambohiotrabo, Morombe. Calculate min 7 days and the car for 100 EU a day minimum (if you find a crazy driver in Tulear).

[QUOTE=NamasteParis;2879536]Hi!

I plan to fool around too, for few weeks. I'm particularly interested to make a road-trip from Tana to Tulear, and then go up along the coast until Morondava.

It seems that you did go to Tulear by the RN7.

Did you rent a car and drive alone?

Then from Morondava, what did you do? Flight to Tana back?

It seems that you traveled alone with no wingman. Except Tana, are there any other place where you could smell danger?

I'm french and have decades of solo travel / work in Africa and Asia, so I know the game.

Thanks for your answers, as I'm planning this road-trip alone.[/QUOTE]Tulear to Morondava along the coast. Not in the Saison pluie. Maybe after the cyclone season. I'd say between May and September. There's several rivers to cross. Best take a Boutre which is doing Cabotage along the coast. They continue the asphalt road from Tulear to Morombe. After Morombe theres only adventure. From Tulear to Morombe there's now normal Taxi Brousse running. Besides the camion brousse. I was thinking to go but at that time last March Morombe city center was completely flooded after the last major cyclone hit of the Saison. And I was not in the mood to suffer.

La Buse.

LE Dreg of the world.

Shaving 15 girls wow. Did you change the razors each time?

[QUOTE=Tinte;2879399]I always liked the place. Place to eat was Zandina, you can watch the pedestrians, Breakfast spot is Mirana were Vahazas meet.

The Grand Avenue ist still a hook up strip during daytime, watch for red lips. After 4 years the public toilet still not finished yet. The area Diamant is a lost place.

I got chattend up by a black spinner girl at the avenue, gorgeous. She guided me to " Etoil des neiges " where she sung karaoke. After we went to " La Vaginette " , a " boit de nuit" males pay 5 K entrance where the name is Programme.

After the first round at the hotel room, I shaved her first under her arms and after her pussy. I gave her 40 K in the morning and we made a date for the evening. To my surprise she came with a good looking friend. After some talking we decided to go strait to the hotel. The new girls undressed, took a shower and I shaved her as promised too. She enjoined it much while the first watched Tv. After the shave I fucked her and the first was watching. I gave her 20 k and she left happy.

Dressed my self and we two went for diner. After diner, the same procedure as usual.

In the six weeks I shaved around 15 girls, moste of them did not have much to shave anyway, just a proper clean up. All enjoyed it and got hot wile I could examine their pussy and got hot again my self.

I was always at night with the first girl together, we visited the Vulcan lake, Lac Tritriva by Tuktuc 25 K. On the Way you passe THB. Either true or not she told me her story why she is doing so. Separat story.

Just walking of the Grand Avenue down to the thermal bath, there ist a public toilet to the right. Two attraktive good dressed girls do offer the service in there. Blow job, pee assistance and fuck.[/QUOTE]

Three of the them did have their last shaving several weeks back. After the finished shave the razor got either clogged or blunt. The others could keep the razors, since they must have the last shaving just days back, but it made certainly a different. I remember two girls after I finished my job posing in front of the mirror. All of them took the suggestion by delight, again something the locals are rather not doing. When seeing them again later some liftet up the arms with a smile on the face. Why you are asking? The soap brush gets rinsed in hot water and dried and a still use it now and again with a smile on my face.

[QUOTE=NamasteParis;2879536]Hi!

I plan to fool around too, for few weeks. I'm particularly interested to make a road-trip from Tana to Tulear, and then go up along the coast until Morondava.

It seems that you did go to Tulear by the RN7.

Did you rent a car and drive alone?

Then from Morondava, what did you do? Flight to Tana back?

It seems that you traveled alone with no wingman. Except Tana, are there any other place where you could smell danger?

I'm french and have decades of solo travel / work in Africa and Asia, so I know the game.

Thanks for your answers, as I'm planning this road-trip alone.[/QUOTE]My recommendation:

- Tana- antsirabe: cotise.
- Antsirabe -> morondave -> Antsirabe : cotisse (because now you understand you wont be going from Tulear to Morondave!)
- Antsirabe - other towns along RN7 - ultimatly Tulear: you will find other cooperative that operate buses. Honestly they are almost as nice as Cotisse.
- Tulear-> Tana: fly!

Keep in mind that Tulear and Morondava (and the whole west coast are PIPING hot: 36 degrees some days).

Don't rent a car! What will you do when in the middle of nowhere you tire bust, change it? And when the spare tire bust 1 hour later? FUCKED!

When on the road with a flat tire (or other part of the car that need maintenance) you will feel vulnarable!

The only 2 place I was told about danger was Tana and middle of the road far away from any town. I never actually smelled any danger myself. But I felt that traveling by bus was the best choice. I did also rent car with driver for tours (Isalo and Tsingy), but we always traveled with other cars. And the driver was more a car expert that a driver. Totally able to repair the car, and carrying a lot of spare parts.

Note on Cotisse: you can call and pay using Mvola, no need to go to office.

Note on all the bus: if there is space, you can book 1, 2 or 3 seat, based on your budget and size. Usually I tried to get 2 seats in the nice busses, and when I had to take taxi brousse I went all the way to 4 seats!

I am currently in Tana, if you are still here, let me know, lets have dinner at Sakamanga.

CasyCar Vip [URL]https://www.gasycarvip.com/[/URL] Before you dive into the jungle.

Alternative as they stop at upper class Restaurants like Espace Coin du Foie Gras at Behenjy.

Starts at Chalet des Roses [URL]http://www.chaletdesroses.com/index.php?s=&l=e[/URL] or within walking distance of the here moste mentioned hotels in Tana.

And the new place Zadina at Antsirabe.

I was sitting in the morning outside in the Restaurant Delice in Manakara wachting the folks passing by. On two separate tables were two other Vahazas watching theirs mobiles.

All of a sudden a young guy got my attention as he several times passing by in a minute. On his turning-point he was focusing me. He came back and about six meters away from me on the street facing his back to me he pulled out a proper gun, pistol for some seconds, he turned around watching at me.

Thoughts went through my head and a shiver went down my spine. After a long minute or two play cool, I got inside and reported it to the staff. Guess what they said?

" Oh we know, that's the local idiot with his Toy gun protecting us. ".

I paid, and left, making sure he could not follow me.

I never had any real problem, as far as I know!!

When you talk to the Basque at LE Glacier he will tell you Storys and gives you advise. At LE Glacier there was a girls ho showed her hand with a deep scar all a cross. She said it was a year ago on broad daylight when tho guys with a knife took her smartphone wich she was holding to on Avenue Inpendence. The area by the way where young guys advertising the repair and decoding om mobiles. A English businessman living in Antsirabe for years told me after 22 PM there is no law enforcement on the street at all. Each room door in hotel Diamant I stayed in was broken in several times judged by the markings.

On the other hand it is a large country with +-30 Millions.

[QUOTE=Tinte;2880016]I was sitting in the morning outside in the Restaurant Delice in Manakara wachting the folks passing by. On two separate tables were two other Vahazas watching theirs mobiles.

All of a sudden a young guy got my attention as he several times passing by in a minute. On his turning-point he was focusing me. He came back and about six meters away from me on the street facing his back to me he pulled out a proper gun, pistol for some seconds, he turned around watching at me.

Thoughts went through my head and a shiver went down my spine. After a long minute or two play cool, I got inside and reported it to the staff. Guess what they said?

" Oh we know, that's the local idiot with his Toy gun protecting us. ".

I paid, and left, making sure he could not follow me.[/QUOTE]Waw! I feel for you. It can take some time to recover from that.

I have only ended up at gun point once in my life (in El Salvador) and I was shivering for 2 hours. Of course that one was a real gun.

At LaBuse: what are the chance to see a real gun in Mada (except the police / army) ? It seems to me EXTREMELY small.

Knifes on the other end are quite common in Tana. You can buy a big scary one on the street for very little. Like literally in a normal street shop.

[QUOTE=DanielDuran;2880163]Waw! I feel for you. It can take some time to recover from that.

I have only ended up at gun point once in my life (in El Salvador) and I was shivering for 2 hours. Of course that one was a real gun.

At LaBuse: what are the chance to see a real gun in Mada (except the police / army) ? It seems to me EXTREMELY small.

Knifes on the other end are quite common in Tana. You can buy a big scary one on the street for very little. Like literally in a normal street shop.[/QUOTE]In Tana when you get robbed. I wrote when not if. LOL. If you live there it's going to happen. There's either gangs of youths usually armed with an assortment of knives. Rest assured. They don't need guns. But that's usually after night fall in in dark corners. All three french mates I stayed in the guest house have been robbed. 9 pm. For example in front of the french cultural institute. Two of them are street smart. One carries a nunchaku and knows how to use it. The other guy scared the bad guys away with his telescopic cudgel. Again he's Krav Maga trained. The other case might be target of opportunity like it happened to a mate of mine. In broad daylight the guy pulled a knife. I figure he was just hungry. My mate gave him some change and he fucked off.

Then there's professional crime involving fire arms. People get robbed in broad daylight. But very unlikely you fall victim. People draw large amounts of cash in the banks. They just store it in their rucksack s. There was a case in the news. They shot him outright took a couple of million ariary. The guy was caught. The new hundreds of security cams paid off. Turned off it was a NCO of the army using his service pistol. Also police is happy to rent out their pistols for a robbery. Or commit robberies themselves.

The third case are the dahalo. They have makeshift firearms, stolen AK47's, Machetes, Spears. Etc. These are cattles rustlers branching out occasionally as highwaymen. Certain RNs especially south are notorious but there were also deadly roadblocks on the RN leading from Antsirabe to Morondava. Never take overnight transport. There's units of Gendarmerie armed to the teeth to hunt down these guys. But you're talking big distances. By the time they arrive the bad guys are miles away.

So enough written. To scare some people off. LOL. As I said. Avoid moving at night. Especially with all your stuff. Read french forums.

There's hair raising stories. All true.

La Buse.

LE dreg of the world.

Reading some posts, years back the information was clear, do give up and it was underlined with I giant of a army guy ho got beaten up too. Therefor only carry on your body what you can afford to loose and passe it over.

Bear in mind the criminals are likely to bee professionals operating in groups. I like the normal temperament of the Gassy people but several observations including girls got me to the conclusion, if they get stressed adrenaline ist quickly boiling over and it is not a big deal they rather stab and kill you than loose face.

On the other hand, the police was never a problem to me. In old posts were several time cases reportet of paying bribes. Never happend to me, actually I often saluted them and they did so back in honor.

Again the times of the pirates are over and yes white scum was in a form of self degrading present.

Most of the visitor on the Ille Rouge have been there, perhaps without knowing. Interesting history. Its on the RN2 on the way to Tamatave. This year I gave it a try fore a 5 day stop over.

The name reminds me in a way to James Bond 007 , that made me interested.

It has 60 K inhabitants, some infrastructure of interests can bee assumed. I did not get disappointed. LOL. I stayed at Bezanozano and Nadia Hotel. Never came across any Vahaza.

Bar Toff: A Karaoke Bar? On the wall was a sign: SAY NO TO SEX TOURIST / STOP SEX EXPLOITATION. Any time of the day were local boys and girls in there. On my first visit I got chatted up by two girls but after the first beer I left them and sat to a young guy to have a talk. All the waitress were dressed in orange shirts and in large numbers present, 10 . All very active and attraktive too.

Result: rooms on the second floor are 4.5 K and all the waitress go for 15 K.

I made me speechless.

I arrived late night and got a nice room for cheap at the Bezanozano Hotel.

In early morning I made walk with the dog. The center ist quite compact and easy to overlook. After my return to the room I laid down again, just wearing my pants. After a minute it knocked at my door and I opened. Three mid aged room maids wer do to do the job. One cleaning the bath, one the floor and on doing the bed.

The one doing the bed I was watching closely, me still just in pants, my dog wakes up and so and cleaned off some dust on her bum, no resistance. After just minutes they left and I went to bed again- shit. Just a minute later it knocked again, I opened the door, the one ho did the bed was standing in the door, the other two down the stairs. She showed me her fresh washed hands both sides, spreading her fingers too. OK?

Come in! She closed the curtain and signalized: no noise or she gets fired. I agreed, she undressed and took a shower on the lower parts. Came back and started a BJ, after a minute or two I mounted a capote and took her from behind.

After, she quickly dressed, I gave her 20 K, she happy, opened the door and she left. Her colleges still waiting downstairs.

Kinde of buzzed I went to sleep again.

One official price list in a upper class hotel quoted 2 K for the washing and ironing of a shirt.

The other way round, when you ask the room made for a room service for 20 K. Everything should bee clear and you will bee doing fine.

At La Buse: Thanks La Buse! Super clear and very much in line with what I heard / saw.

I did get on the Gendarmerie escort on the RN leading from Antsirabe to Morondava. However, it seems the last attack was years ago, no? But better be on the carefull side.

At Tinte: I fully agree. Butter just give everything. Not worth dying.

FYI, I could not believe it, but the imigration officer asked me for a bribe the time! I told her (a women) to fuck off (very politely "sorry, I have no cash".

Oh oh oh. I also went to Moramanga and stayed in Bezanozano hotel. There is not much to see there. Try the Chinese restaurant opposite the Bezanozano hotel. Its in the main street / road.

I went to some bars yes but I didn't see many nice looking girls and I didn't hear anything about upstairs rooms to f. So did you try any of the girls there?

[QUOTE=Tinte;2880664]Most of the visitor on the Ille Rouge have been there, perhaps without knowing. Interesting history. Its on the RN2 on the way to Tamatave. This year I gave it a try fore a 5 day stop over.

The name reminds me in a way to James Bond 007 , that made me interested.

It has 60 K inhabitants, some infrastructure of interests can bee assumed. I did not get disappointed. LOL. I stayed at Bezanozano and Nadia Hotel. Never came across any Vahaza.

Bar Toff: A Karaoke Bar? On the wall was a sign: SAY NO TO SEX TOURIST / STOP SEX EXPLOITATION. Any time of the day were local boys and girls in there. On my first visit I got chatted up by two girls but after the first beer I left them and sat to a young guy to have a talk. All the waitress were dressed in orange shirts and in large numbers present, 10 . All very active and attraktive too.

Result: rooms on the second floor are 4.5 K and all the waitress go for 15 K.

I made me speechless.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kako123;2880885]Oh oh oh. I also went to Moramanga and stayed in Bezanozano hotel. There is not much to see there. Try the Chinese restaurant opposite the Bezanozano hotel. Its in the main street / road.

I went to some bars yes but I didn't see many nice looking girls and I didn't hear anything about upstairs rooms to f. So did you try any of the girls there?[/QUOTE]No I did not try out since I was in general busy in other forms. To me, Toff is full-scale Brothel with dress-code for the girls. I do not like it that way.

On afternoon two nice, slightly chubby girls approached me as I did my walk. I said bonjour, we exchanged some words and walked on together, after some meters hand in hand for just a short wile to make things clear. At first we were heading out of town but than they had a short word and we headed back and turned into a sideway. After some 10 meters the girls stopped at a wooden gate. A guy opened and we went into small park like area with trees and half open wooden huts. The girls orders something to drink and we were in this " Chambre separee " . A sign on the wall was saying " NO CANABIS" A large bottle of world Cola was served. The girls startet to lap dance and twerking. We got quite hot but they would not undress as some kids were around. They showed off the breast fore some seconds to bee kissed. Basically we were just fooling around, eventually I took my dick out and they kissed him Hello, . After about 45 minutes? We got up and I was about to pay. What a surprise will await me now? Went through my head. The hut, 2 girls full service and Cola? What a disappointment will strike me in a second?

4500 A for the LT Cola, that's it.

The Restaurant offers good food and after three nights at Bezanozano, after my morning walk I changed to Nadia Hotel. Just because to give it a try. From the upper open floor you can watch the street live.

The staff was rather busy as I arrived, so I went out on the street were two girls caught my eye. Small talk and back to my room. On the way they were not shy at all and very talkative, to the staff to, kind of very amused. No ID by the way, nobody asked for it. One of them was a Asian looking, Merina? Type cutie the other a black Beauty.

Shower and on to the bed. The girls did not interact at all. First the Merina and after the black one in doggie, wile the other was just watching, I finished in the Merina because she kept on looking in my eyes with a open mouth. 20 K each and happy leaving. Never did a repeat, the place spoiled me.

In the afternoon I went to a Ice-cream place on the main road. I did have a conversation with a waitress in there bevor. This time the place had no customer and they were two girls at " work " . I suggested to the girl if she had time for me now. To my astonishment she agreed to follow to the hotel for max 1 hour. She took her coat off immediately and followed me a minute later.

After some time in Mada I felt like that's just the way it is, but now back home I realize how different live there is to say the least.

There is even more to discover. In the evening you just follow the sound of music it has been a long time ago since I have seen so many empty beer bottles on a table.

To me it was a great success, but how ever it gets doll after some days.

Andranokoditra, that's my next stop over place.

Thanks a lot, DanielD, Tinte, Labuse & co for all the info about the region.

At Tinte: how do you travel now, from Tana to Moramanga, then to the coast going to Tamatave I guess? Taxis? You have a car?

From Tana to Moramanga I took Cotisse Transport, note that they al likely to charge you whole distance to Tamatave and droppe you off at your destination of request on the way. No big deal for us.

Then off course, Taxi Brousse, the cheap easy but hard way for some.

From Moramanga you can take the train to Tamatave, a nice day journey I highly recommend.

I was about there to finde out.

On morning on my walk I passed the Societe General bank in this coastal town. A end twenty girl was cleaning the windows and the floor to the cash machine. I greeted and smiled, she the same back to me.

I asked when she will bee finished with that work? And if she, tired of that work not would like to have a rest at my place. Again and again I got astonished, she agreed. I told here were I exactly staying at and she followed me 5 minutes later to my room, 20 K.

The next morning I waved her from a distance as I walked pass again, she smiled back. I have never been bevor to a place like that.

After reading some older posts from other forum members I came to the unreal conclusion that the people of Madagaskar in general a sexual very liberal and aktive folks. The girls are like a bunch of sexual lusty creatures. Enhanced by the fact that they live in rather matriarchal society underlined by the fact that they had a queen. Etc. Made by other members.

Well England did have some queens too, to me that approach is rather nonsense for a start. OK. Several times I did have encounters with a sexual content and no money was involved. Once not even food, drinks or any kind of payment at all. Some sure, like our girls too, like the sex with vahazas. Sure the girls like the difference etc. To bee tried out.

On the other hand. The upper class people with money do often not even greet or look at you at all. They ignore you for various reasons complete. Local Boys pay for sex too! Once I did have a talk with two young man and it got very fast clear they were rather shy and sexual inexperienced in my eyes.

Long story short, its manly about cash, material things or the chance of a better live.

On my previous visits at this hotel I have fucked a room maid each time. This time, because of low business there was only a rather old unattraktive one present. One morning I did have a chat with her and it was clear that she was well informed but said she is not available. The next morning as I step out of my room, what a coincidence, her very obvious daughter with a little grandson visited her. The daughter introduced her self with a big smile on her face, the little boy standing next to her.

What the hell?! Is it just my werde fantasy or ist this real? As for my general observations. Yes that girls is looking for cash for sex, husband. But why with that boy on your hand.

Anyway, I was having a friendly conversation and went my way. Now I just regret not have given her some cash as a support.

The reason most of this girls a into the business is the fact the have children and no great support by the family's nor of the asshole of the runner, that's the way we look at it. On the other hand that is the general way of surviving and general accepted, they work it out and its standard in the majority of these poor people.

So did you take the train??

[QUOTE=Tinte;2881399]From Tana to Moramanga I took Cotisse Transport, note that they al likely to charge you whole distance to Tamatave and droppe you off at your destination of request on the way. No big deal for us.

Then off course, Taxi Brousse, the cheap easy but hard way for some.

From Moramanga you can take the train to Tamatave, a nice day journey I highly recommend.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kako123;2882144]So did you take the train??[/QUOTE]Otherwise I could do so?

I was there this year in January and I was not able to take train. I went to the station in Moramanga and if I understood them correctly they said that there is no train.

[QUOTE=Tinte;2882214]Otherwise I could do so?[/QUOTE]

The line Moramanga. Tamatave has been reopened somewhen last summer.

Years back I took also the train Fianarantsoa. Manakara wich is the absolut scenic Jungeltrain. This time I wanted to take this line too but it was out of service. Actually, later I got told I could have taken the train but only half distance and the change to taxi brousse. In general there is a lack of information about the timetable and the reason is they do not know it them self. The train runs or not, perhaps tomorrow or after.

I knew only that is moste likely in service but not the exakte day. On my first morning walk I went to the station and there was a train. They tell you the departure day and that on the day bevor tickets get sold at 7 till 8 in the morning. Ticket is cheap, can't exactly remember, 20 K 1 class. But the next day at 6 in the morning, everybody on the train it got cancelnd and we actually left the following next morning. Mora mora and many stops including food service etc. The railway goes along the coast and the Panganales very scenic with many stops at daylight.

In Tana they build a new station just next to the old one. I visited the place, we will see but for sure I will take that train too.

Hmm something came to my mind. How about porn industry in Madagascar?

[QUOTE=Kako123;2883517]Hmm something came to my mind. How about porn industry in Madagascar?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kako123;2883517]Hmm something came to my mind. How about porn industry in Madagascar?[/QUOTE]Porn have already existed since 1800's even before. Mainstream porn production will definitely contribute to destruction of this beautiful place. Also there are some mainstream Madagascar porn on ASD. Effing is not a magic to be video for these people. I can also see some people in this forum are in a dying need of promoting this place as a sex destination. As much as I love intercourse, I respect these people and their culture. Why westerners take these open cultures by a surprise? Where this notion of sex behind the curtains and monogamy is coming from. It is from Western civilization as much as you hate to believe. Why? Because once the European colonization took place, people in other cultures were made to think, they are less civilized. Pre martial sex was considered immoral. Polygamy was penalized. Their sexual liberty has been taken from them. Instead sexual oppression was gifted. As a consequence, Western civilization has lost their ability to perform sexual activities, sex prices in their countries have inflated, women empowerment was imposed, they lost their natural way. Now, they have to fly to other countries to find sex once they deemed as immoral. As much as most of you are not responsible for what happened centuries ago, this is for real.

This ain't another Thailand. Just because some countries do sex behind curtains and video it for money does not necessarily mean every culture do sex behind the curtains. First of all, why some mongers are here and not in Thailand. Is it because they have all the riches in the world? No, it's because they are cheap Charlies (not all but most). Just enjoy the place. Live it. Don't screw it. Cheers.

[QUOTE=Kako123;2883517]Hmm something came to my mind. How about porn industry in Madagascar?[/QUOTE]It seems you have no clue at all.

Producing a quality porn movie to make profit will cost somewhere between $5000 — $100,000. Porn production generally involves costs:

Studio cost.

Equipment for porn production.

Cost of actors & actresses.

Website development.

Distribution costs and more.

If you want to sell your handy-cam made fuck videos you are no longer able to do it on the big sites like xhamster, pornhub or others. Because you need signed and confirmed statements that all actors are above 18 and agree that their face will be seen in public.

As said: you have no clue of that sort of business. And also no clue of the mentality of Malgache people. If I go more into that annoying idea from you, then Jackson will ban me here.

[QUOTE=SGK45;2883584]Porn have already existed since 1800's even before. Mainstream porn production will definitely contribute to destruction of this beautiful place. Also there are some mainstream Madagascar porn on ASD. Effing is not a magic to be video for these people. I can also see some people in this forum are in a dying need of promoting this place as a sex destination. As much as I love intercourse, I respect these people and their culture. Why westerners take these open cultures by a surprise? Where this notion of sex behind the curtains and monogamy is coming from. It is from Western civilization as much as you hate to believe. Why? Because once the European colonization took place, people in other cultures were made to think, they are less civilized. Pre martial sex was considered immoral. Polygamy was penalized. Their sexual liberty has been taken from them. Instead sexual oppression was gifted. As a consequence, Western civilization has lost their ability to perform sexual activities, sex prices in their countries have inflated, women empowerment was imposed, they lost their natural way. Now, they have to fly to other countries to find sex once they deemed as immoral. As much as most of you are not responsible for what happened centuries ago, this is for real.

This ain't another Thailand. Just because some countries do sex behind curtains and video it for money does not necessarily mean every culture do sex behind the curtains. First of all, why some mongers are here and not in Thailand. Is it because they have all the riches in the world? No, it's because they are cheap Charlies (not all but most). Just enjoy the place. Live it. Don't screw it. Cheers.[/QUOTE]I underwrite your post a 100%. This is not Thailand and will never be. Let all the "sextourists" fly to Nosy Be. That's quarantine island so they don't spoil the rest of Madagascar. As for the monologues of certain trolls here. No comment. I can't read the irrelevant posts of these "Madagascar experts" They're on my honour ignore list as irrelevant since years.

Broad band internet makes inroads. But most people are to poor to even afford a phone let alone a smart phone. The old Malagasy kings always decreed there's 2 things which prevented foreign invaders from taking over. The bad or not existing roads. And the tropical disease. Until these days.

La Buse.

[QUOTE=Kako123;2883517]Hmm something came to my mind. How about porn industry in Madagascar?[/QUOTE]Clean of Ideologie or cock and bull stories from the old fantasy Island man.

For a start my fifty cents:

Somme years back we were discussed the value of Fb. As I did have a look at it, some pages were full of Madagascar home made porn adverts. I wide selection was advertised including sex, porn with vahazas. LOL. Besides with the to me moste disgusting and repulsive perverted practices that man kind can produced and some are eager to consume and pay for. Banned in my would for good reason for my point of view.

Along with the typical rubbish like penis enlargement pills, viagra etc you name it. All the stuff typically gets sold in the so spoiled " West" - LOL. All for the locals.

But it is all cleared up now. I can not finde one single page of that kind anymore.

So yes, Mada does have a local porn production for locals to bee consumed and payed for.

By reading trough the pages a newbie will come easy to the conclusion the people there are in general all dirt poor and they look all up to you as being the great big donor to adore, hence you are a cheap Charlie.

That is far from being correct!

There a plenty of people with more cash than the average visitor, especial the old pensioners on the endgame. They locals drive big SUV's too and are smartly dressed like Upperclass Westerner. They visit restaurant order food and drinks, pay and leave half of it behind.

They will hardly talk to you, actually they give a shit for Vahazas, especially the old scruffy half rotten ones.

By the way, some of them cultivate a awareness of the old atrocity done during the occupation.

There is plenty of cash around for all sorts of attraktiv start ups.

The cash is just not correct shared. I would stop all aid money as this is not solving the problem.

I didn't want to mention Thailand. For example look at porn in Colombia or Romania they have such developed porn. There is a potential for this in Madagascar.

I am someone who stayed close to 2 years in Madagascar so I know little about Malgache people mentality. So what were you going to say about them?

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2883685]It seems you have no clue at all.

Producing a quality porn movie to make profit will cost somewhere between $5000 $100,000. Porn production generally involves costs:

Studio cost.

Equipment for porn production.

Cost of actors & actresses.

Website development.

Distribution costs and more.

If you want to sell your handy-cam made fuck videos you are no longer able to do it on the big sites like xhamster, pornhub or others. Because you need signed and confirmed statements that all actors are above 18 and agree that their face will be seen in public.

As said: you have no clue of that sort of business. And also no clue of the mentality of Malgache people. If I go more into that annoying idea from you, then Jackson will ban me here.[/QUOTE]

Old fantasy island man? What do you mean by that? Haha.

I am not an island man and I am still 36 by the way.

[QUOTE=Tinte;2883962]By reading trough the pages a newbie will come easy to the conclusion the people there are in general all dirt poor and they look all up to you as being the great big donor to adore, hence you are a cheap Charlie.

That is far from being correct!

There a plenty of people with more cash than the average visitor, especial the old pensioners on the endgame. They locals drive big SUV's too and are smartly dressed like Upperclass Westerner. They visit restaurant order food and drinks, pay and leave half of it behind.

They will hardly talk to you, actually they give a shit for Vahazas, especially the old scruffy half rotten ones.

By the way, some of them cultivate a awareness of the old atrocity done during the occupation.

There is plenty of cash around for all sorts of attraktiv start ups.

The cash is just not correct shared. I would stop all aid money as this is not solving the problem.[/QUOTE]

Ha I agree about one thing for sure. "They will hardly talk to you, actually they give a shit for Vahazas, especially the old scruffy half rotten ones. ".

Well the rich Malagasy are so stingy. Who can deny that?

[QUOTE=Tinte;2883962]By reading trough the pages a newbie will come easy to the conclusion the people there are in general all dirt poor and they look all up to you as being the great big donor to adore, hence you are a cheap Charlie.

That is far from being correct!

There a plenty of people with more cash than the average visitor, especial the old pensioners on the endgame. They locals drive big SUV's too and are smartly dressed like Upperclass Westerner. They visit restaurant order food and drinks, pay and leave half of it behind.

They will hardly talk to you, actually they give a shit for Vahazas, especially the old scruffy half rotten ones.

By the way, some of them cultivate a awareness of the old atrocity done during the occupation.

There is plenty of cash around for all sorts of attraktiv start ups.

The cash is just not correct shared. I would stop all aid money as this is not solving the problem.[/QUOTE]

I personally do not like porn, but I watch vintage porn just to get an idea of certain cultures. How things used to be. Apart from that, I don't want to jerk off to something I can afford. I believe porn drastically effects the affordability and quality of commercial sex. This is what happened in Europe. No one wants to do it with a European hooker with attitude and inflated prices. If you watch old porn galleries of Europe. They are from actual European brothels. You immediately notice that sex was way affordable and accessible. It wasn't any VIP service as it is now-a-days. It was for every tom, dick and harry. Women weren't snow flakes. They might have really enjoyed the kink coming out of it. I am like "what a world to live in". Most men are sexually deprived and oppressed because government ask them to keep fucking one woman. As most of us here understand very well, it doesn't work. As we grow older, as men, our sexual preferences shifts for more younger tight bodies. When we were young, we loved the touch of MILFs. As straight men, we should preserve the natural way for other generations to come. This has always been my concern.

I believe making or not making porn is a personal preference.

[QUOTE=SGK45;2884113]
I believe making or not making porn is a personal preference.[/QUOTE]Your comments on porn are spot on.

But here we talk of Madagascar only! Once that industry, dominated by some big US studios, arrives to cast Mada girls, our hidden paradise will be gone in no time.

You can have more porn life in Mada as with overused working girls from any brothel in Europe or even Thailand. Lets keep that business off from isle rouge.

Look at Thailand now. Thailand is full of Aussie, Pommie or US pimps charging you bar fines for farm fresh. Lmfao. Some blokes go there to wife the hookers.

I mean when you pay the bar fine, you should fuck the pimp too. Pimps are the main reasons sex prices in South East Asia getting inflated now. All you need is some sh*t see*nt thinking there is a business opportunity to exploit. As sexually deprived men, we are taking sh*t from everyone. We take shit from governments, we take shit from women empowerment, we take shit from UN giving a minimum age for sex and cockblocking us. That's not all. Making lab viruses and asking men to wear rubber and we feel nothing. Making the rubber mandatory (Germany for example). Now, these blood sucking ticks who call themselves bar owners (pimps) inflating the prices of affordable sex, media discouraging men upon buying commercial sex.

Straight men are getting cucked. As every animal, we should have sex. It's a basic need. As much as it sounds funny, it is the truth. We don't have a pride month. LOL. There should be a unified front against these forces.

Look at Thailand now. Thailand is full of Aussie, Pommie or US pimps charging you bar fines for farm fresh. Lmfao. Some blokes go there to wife the hookers.

I mean when you pay the bar fine, you should fuck the pimp too. Pimps are the main reasons sex prices in South East Asia getting inflated now. All you need is some sh*t see*nt thinking there is a business opportunity to exploit. As sexually deprived men, we are taking sh*t from everyone. We take shit from governments, we take shit from women empowerment, we take shit from UN giving a minimum age for sex and cockblocking us. That's not all. Making lab viruses and asking men to wear rubber and we feel nothing. Making the rubber mandatory (Germany for example). Now, these blood sucking ticks who call themselves bar owners (pimps) inflating the prices of affordable sex, media discouraging men upon buying commercial sex.

Straight men are getting cucked. As every animal, we should have sex. It's a basic need. As much as it sounds funny, it is the truth. We don't have a pride month. LOL. There should be a unified front against these forces.

Free market Economy.

Payed sex in Europe has for various reasons never been as cheap as today. For some young girls it has become a lifestyle to bee a hooker or a porn star. In the "old days" there were good payed celebrities. Gone are these days. It is the punter ho became a cheap Charly.

Asia, in general the economic is flourishing and the boys getting wealthy local competition.

Flight tickets, still cheap as never bevor. 850 EUR Europe. Mada and back. LOL. Peanuts!

Prices in Mada.

Do to low numbers of Vahazas it is a buyers market. The Ariary has dropped in value. You do the offer and the girls a still better payed as girls in Europe!

I can not speak about NosyBee and the lost, spoiled charm of Mada there. But to all the punters ho have been there, why did go there in the first place?

Interesting insights.

QUOTE=SGK45;2884609]Look at Thailand now. Thailand is full of Aussie, Pommie or US pimps charging you bar fines for farm fresh. Lmfao. Some blokes go there to wife the hookers.

Hmm various reasons. One of the reasons could be the Ukrainian refugess that escapes the war?

[QUOTE=Tinte;2884721]Free market Economy.

Payed sex in Europe has for various reasons never been as cheap as today. For some young girls it has become a lifestyle to bee a hooker or a porn star. In the "old days" there were good payed celebrities. Gone are these days. It is the punter ho became a cheap Charly.

Asia, in general the economic is flourishing and the boys getting wealthy local competition.

Flight tickets, still cheap as never bevor. 850 EUR Europe. Mada and back. LOL. Peanuts!

Prices in Mada.

Do to low numbers of Vahazas it is a buyers market. The Ariary has dropped in value. You do the offer and the girls a still better payed as girls in Europe!

I can not speak about NosyBee and the lost, spoiled charm of Mada there. But to all the punters ho have been there, why did go there in the first place?[/QUOTE]

Ok its been a while. So here is the review from my last trip to Madagascar in the month of December. 2023.

Landed into tana in the evening via Air Mauritius, checked into IBIS. Nothings changed. Immigration still wants you to give them a 'GIFT' to issue you an On Arrival Visa which I paid for! Customs still asking for "handouts' to clear you through green channel.

First Night:

Had a couple of girls confirmed from Badoo App, so they came over and we had dinner at the hotel and some fun. The 3 of us and a local friend headed to Taxi Be. It was packed with women. 80,000 to 100,000 ARY. Over-night. Some really good ones seem to have that added attitude. But everyone eventually walks over to you, to give you a good rub down below. Good night in general.

Second Night.

Flew to Sambava and further to Anthala for work, the village was dead, the biggest club had 3 people other than us and just serving 2 drink options, both were bad. Forget picking up or anything. Found a fellow resident at the hotel, Ocean Momo, who was looking for company for a couple of drinks. I gave her the drinks and she gave me everything else I wanted. Nice barter.

Third Night.

Flew back to Tana, back in IBIS, this time, went to Taxi Be with a local friend, picked up a couple of local chicks. 80,000 and 110,000 each. Overnight. They were nice.

Fourth Night.

Flew to Mahajanga. Stayed at Boba Tree Hotel. Classy, but bad service. It was dead, picked a weekday so clubs very empty. Got the bartender to go hunting for me, she did and got back 2 bajaj full, but not worth the effort. 60,000 was the max they were asking. Enjoyed my Jack Cokes and left for the night. Alone.

Fifth Night.

Got up on time. Found a Bajaj, and asked him to show me around the city, went to supermarkets, local markets, hunting for possible targets, nothing. Finally settled for a Jack Coke in a bar. Found my princess waiting to be picked up. She wasn't the regular types, money was not her concern, having a good time was. Hot as fuck and ready to go the extra mile to please. She was with me with the whole day and the next day aswell. 100 K, got her change of clothes and everything. We did it in the pool. She hesitated at first, but loved the idea of maybe getting caught.

Sixth Night.

Flew back to tana. Got the 2 girls from the 1st night, 2 more from the previous trip and headed bar hopping, papa chez, blue, Monsoon. Had a great time with us 2 guys and 4 girls. Last drink at Taxi Be VIP area. Apart from the six of us, we got another 3. Just to drink and dance. More than happy to oblige!! Took the 2 girls from the first night and one from the previous visit back. Wow, it was heaven, the girls was all friends by now and opened up quite nicely. 100 K per.

Seventh Night.

On my way back, had a layover for a few hours in Dubai and opened Badoo again. And found one who was in the same terminal and catching a flight to Europe who wanted a quick f**k for a fee ofcourse. Did her in the handicapped toilet of the business class lounge and then had a few drinks with her.

What a trip. Madagascar is the best place to monger, if you can manage to get there. Until next time!

[QUOTE=LoveTraveller;2885258] ....got back 2 bajaj full, [/QUOTE]You are not in India! Those are called Tuk Tuk's in Mada.

Your homeland style and earlier trips to Vietnam of "using" the ladies in Mada (. Perhaps by not speaking french? Will hopefully not copied by other messieurs les voyageurs.

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2885553]You are not in India! Those are called Tuk Tuk's in Mada.

Your homeland style and earlier trips to Vietnam of "using" the ladies in Mada (. Perhaps by not speaking french? Will hopefully not copied by other messieurs les voyageurs.[/QUOTE]I found his report interesting and informative, while all you can take away from it is a mispronounciation of a tuktuk? Your attitude does not encourage others to post.

[QUOTE=LoveTraveller;2885258]
Seventh Night.

On my way back, had a layover for a few hours in Dubai and opened Badoo again. And found one who was in the same terminal and catching a flight to Europe who wanted a quick f**k for a fee ofcourse. Did her in the handicapped toilet of the business class lounge and then had a few drinks with her.

What a trip. Madagascar is the best place to monger, if you can manage to get there. Until next time![/QUOTE]Wow, this stuff happens for real? Color me impressed.

It demonstrates to me in a perfect way a new different approach by different conditions in the first place. It is not my way really, but I certainly do not deliver any negative judgment on it. The preaching of a standard procedure based on old novels is rather ridiculous in my view. Each his own.

Where was she from?

On my way back, had a layover for a few hours in Dubai and opened Badoo again. And found one who was in the same terminal and catching a flight to Europe who wanted a quick f**k for a fee ofcourse. Did her in the handicapped toilet of the business class lounge and then had a few drinks with her.

[QUOTE=Euphori;2885608]I found his report interesting and informative, while all you can take away from it is a mispronounciation of a tuktuk? Your attitude does not encourage others to post.[/QUOTE]That's exactly the intention. Be silent and enjoy. While it lasts.

Am I worried? Not at all. Most posters will not survive here. Like the recent refugees from Thailand. They'll run away screaming after they are confronted with the reality of tropical disease ridden utterly corrupt and very dangerous country. You'll not survive here unless you're former pirate, mercenary or fugitive from law. Without french. You'll be ripped off by everybody.

La Buse.

LE dreg of the world.

This chick can afford business class and she still wanted money? I guess that's how she can afford business class!

Stupid color commentary with pure racist intent. Go Google it out. Tuktuk is called Bajaj in Mada because. You didn't guess it. The darn Indian manufacturer has been selling that vehicle type there for too long that that is what locals call it.

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2885553]You are not in India! Those are called Tuk Tuk's in Mada.

Your homeland style and earlier trips to Vietnam of "using" the ladies in Mada (. Perhaps by not speaking french? Will hopefully not copied by other messieurs les voyageurs.[/QUOTE]

Short reminder, this is the Madagaskar forum were nice folks suppose exchange real accurate experience about Madagaskar of today. It supposed to bee a source of information to others to get a real picture.

Living in the past people like pirates and any sorts alike please stay tuned. LOL.

Is porn production legal in mada?

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2884446]Your comments on porn are spot on.

But here we talk of Madagascar only! Once that industry, dominated by some big US studios, arrives to cast Mada girls, our hidden paradise will be gone in no time.

You can have more porn life in Mada as with overused working girls from any brothel in Europe or even Thailand. Lets keep that business off from isle rouge.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Madossa;2886422]Is porn production legal in mada?[/QUOTE]It's a corrupt country. So, justice is served in different ways. It's not through the law but via other means. People go missing in mada. I am not trying to fear monger. That's why I said to enjoy this beautiful place as it is and respect the lives of these people. Many people do not like being exploited and posted in media. People do have cameras there. Porn is nothing new in mada. But they do not abuse it. If you are not locals, use it and do not abuse it or you will end up in trouble.

According to a site Porn is illegal. The production, the sale, the consumption. Prohibition. LOL.

Assuming that's correct, it explained some observations to me.

Does it bothers me? No!

But, for those with fuck-pics on the SD card it should. There was a report of a guy whose card got checked at the custom.

[QUOTE=LoveTraveller;2885258] headed to Taxi Be. It was packed with women. 80,000 to 100,000 ARY. Over-night.[/QUOTE]As other said, informative report. It always surprises me how people would still pay doubled prices. At Tana, a taxi be girl overnight, 50 K (+ 10 K for taxi if good service) is a standard. For a princess in Manson, maybe 10 K-20 K more. In the province, 30K max. But as repeated here, to each his own! Maybe because I'm French, young and in good shape. And yes, tuk tuk are called bajaj in Mada. Never heard people there calling them tuk tuk, except from few tourist vazahas.

[QUOTE=LoveTraveller;2885258]Ok its been a while. So here is the review from my last trip to Madagascar in the month of December. 2023...What a trip. Madagascar is the best place to monger, if you can manage to get there. Until next time![/QUOTE]Excellent report, LoveTraveller. Reports like yours are the reason this forum exists. And I agree that locals use the word bajaj, not tuktuk.

I have a question about your flights. You flew from Tana to Sambava and again from Tana to Majunga. How much did you pay? Also, how far in advance did you make your flight reservations? What was your overall experience with the domestic airline?

[QUOTE=NamasteParis;2887125] And yes, tuk tuk are called bajaj in Mada. Never heard people there calling them tuk tuk, except from few tourist vazahas.[/QUOTE]In Mahajanga, Diego and other northern villages they are called Tuk-Tuk. Pronounced "tuecktuek" , in Tamatave they are called Bajaj and in Antananrivo you hardly can find any in downtown.

Travellers from the country of origin of Bajajs they will call it everywhere bajaj and don't care of local habits, also in other regards.

Namaste -- I do enjoy your reports which are reflecting your respect and knowledge of local habits and culture. Also versus les filles gasy.

I am still in contact with people from Tana, according to them;.

A simpel flat, two rooms is about 300.000 A a month. Some employee do not get that at all.

To make a living, electricity and water, one need roughly 1'000 '000 A. No luxury.

Easy to figure out what 50/20 K A, means the punter pays.

Once I went home with a girl from Tana. She was living just below the Rova in a family flat she had simpel room for her own and claimed to have a job. Great experience.

She picked me up in the evening on Grand avenue. She was great fun and experimental, as she was petite I could easy lift her up fuck and walk about in the room. To the story she told me: She was from Fianarantsoa and has a boy to which her mother takes care. She works at outside Antsirabe as a household aid and sends the money home. Her boss wants to fuck her too what she refuses to do and because of that she saves money for a ticket back to Fianarantsoa.

What a heartbreaking story, I did not believe it completely. Anyway treated her s nice as she did me. Remember, she brought her girlfriend for a shave and a fuck along, 20 K.

However, I like to take here my forum space for a monologue in remembrance to a once again great time.

As flights a very cheap in March. I will do a week just Tana.

[QUOTE=Tinte;2888908]She picked me up in the evening on Grand avenue. She was great fun and experimental, as she was petite I could easy lift her up fuck and walk about in the room. To the story she told me: She was from Fianarantsoa and has a boy to which her mother takes care. She works at outside Antsirabe as a household aid and sends the money home. Her boss wants to fuck her too what she refuses to do and because of that she saves money for a ticket back to Fianarantsoa.

What a heartbreaking story, I did not believe it completely. Anyway treated her s nice as she did me. Remember, she brought her girlfriend for a shave and a fuck along, 20 K.

However, I like to take here my forum space for a monologue in remembrance to a once again great time.

As flights a very cheap in March. I will do a week just Tana.[/QUOTE]Me a girl that went to Lebanon for 2 years, boss wanted to fuck her everyday when the wife went to the market. She called the police (who of course did nothing), tried to escape, but could not (as her contract was 2 year, and she did not have her passport) and had to endure it for 2 years. Real slavery!

[QUOTE=Tinte;2887727]I am still in contact with people from Tana, according to them;.

A simpel flat, two rooms is about 300.000 A a month. Some employee do not get that at all.

To make a living, electricity and water, one need roughly 1'000 '000 A. No luxury.

Easy to figure out what 50/20 K A, means the punter pays.

Once I went home with a girl from Tana. She was living just below the Rova in a family flat she had simpel room for her own and claimed to have a job. Great experience.[/QUOTE]Mada people don't really like to bring you home (as compared to other places like Kenya). I went to a few girl's home, and I definitely recommend it (including one with no water, where she had to go and get water in bottles 15 minutes walk away! This is the best way to understand how real life is in Mada.

Folks,

I am considering making a trip to the island from late Feb. To mid Jan. Would the rains impact my chances at hobby, and enjoying the country in general? Would you choose Mada or Philipines for this weather reason?

Thanks!

[QUOTE=SonicBoom1;2891556]Folks,

I am considering making a trip to the island from late Feb. To mid Jan. Would the rains impact my chances at hobby, and enjoying the country in general? Would you choose Mada or Philipines for this weather reason?

Thanks![/QUOTE]I know Philippines well and the Philippines is fine.

But if you're tossing up between the Philippines and Mada based on weather reports then you're asking the wrong question. I have already been to three African countries, read the Mada forum cover to cover and I'm still wondering if I'm ready for Mada. Suggest you RTFF thoroughly before even considering it.

[QUOTE=SonicBoom1;2891556]Folks,

I am considering making a trip to the island from late Feb. To mid Jan. Would the rains impact my chances at hobby, and enjoying the country in general? Would you choose Mada or Philipines for this weather reason?

Thanks![/QUOTE]You mean from January to February. That's cyclone season at its best. What does it mean. A cyclone can wreck your travel plans in no time. If you have deep pockets fly direct to Nosy Be and hole up there. Or fly to Tana and stay put. Tana IMHO is the best place to spend Cyclone season. Up to you. Of course you can travel. But. Roads and bridges are swept away. The roads are in a sorry state already. Not the best time to visit Mada.

La Buse.

LE Dreg del Ocean Indien.