East China - Shanghai

[QUOTE=Aggo456; 1253568]Hi,

I've been in Shanghai for a few days now and I was wondering if anyone knows a massage parlor in Shanghai that looks like "Akane Massage" in Bangkok?

For those who don't know what Akane is, well, this is a massage parlor where the masseuse licks your entire body with her tongue. This is very anal-oriented and their specialty is the asslicking.

If anyone knows such a place please tell me, I'll make a full report here.[/QUOTE]Hi Aggo,

This kind of service is standart part of the procedure in a sauna like bodi. 999 or Hai Lang. The girl will lick your body, most time with hot or cold water in her mouth, also care about your ass. I think you should be happy with what you will get there.

I'm new in this forum and in shanghai. I tried to read the forum but it's actually very long and I can't find exactly what I 'm looking for.

I like foot fetish and I'd like to know if you guys know any place in shanghai having a complete foot fetish massage. I know there are oil massage place where the girls, at the end of the massage, accept to make a Fj instead of HJ / BJ but it's not really what I'm lookig for.

To give you an idea I post you below what I found in another forum about beijing:

" I am amazed at how prevalent the foot-fetish scene is in Beijing as compared to Singapore or even Hong Kong.

I felt that the China feet fetish scene is grossly under-reported.

Here's my personal view and assessment of the China feet fetish culture. In China, they call it &24651; &36275; &25991; &21270; &12290;

There are around 30+ feet fetish centres in Beijing alone. They are called &24651; &36275; &20250; &25152; .

From what I experienced, they are generally 2 types of centres.

One type is labeled "health-related type" or &20859; &29983; &31867; .

This type major in massage with feet or they called it &19997; &36275; &25353; &25845; &12290;

The lady will use their feet not just to massage you, and also tease you sexually.

The general rule of thumb is that they are not allowed to touch your privates, but I believe behind closed doors, its the chemistry between you and the lady that matters.

The other type of centre are the labeled the "feet-fetish" type or &24651; &36275; &31867; .

I visited 2 of these types of centers.

This type of centres normally charges 500 RMB for 1hr. However, I also realised that the part-timers, who are usually the prettier ones will ask for more.

Unlike the first type, the ladies in these centers has no experience in massage, and they will only indulge in your feet fetish needs; like smelling, licking, rubbing, teasing, stepping and etc.

There are private parts touching, but officially, they are not allowed to release you.

My experience with this varies again. One lady did a footjob on me quite willingly, while another does not.

These types of centres also performed SM activities apart from footjobs.

They have things like cages, whips and ropes and etc

Anyone could suggest me such places in shanghai?

Thank you very much in advance!

[QUOTE=Money11;1253000]I have not been to Shanghai in a few months. My last time there I had used Helen and Friends. Services were pretty good. I have noticed she has added some new girls to her stable of ladies. Has anyone dipped there toes into some of Helen's Friends? Let me know. I had some success with Ada.[/QUOTE]Hi Money11,

I have used Helen and Friends service. I am quite new to this forum. Was with a girl called Lianna. Service was ok but only massage and too expansive. What do you mean by success? Can one expect more than massage with these girls?

Thanks for reply

Tried the place at Shanxi Lu and Changping Lu for HJ. For 206 it is well worth the visit. Girl was cute enough, I asked the doorman for cute girl.

Pretty good HJ and titty massage. The place is clean enough, with separate shower rooms. Easy to find, just look for the big massage sign and the southwest corner from the intersection.

The girl tried to up-charge me for a 2 girl massage for 400. She was persistent, and finally I took no for an answer.

Also, south on Shanxi Lu towards the main shopping centers, there were several brothel looking establishments. Didn't try them of course, but may be worth it. There is one on the opposite side of the street on the same block, and another a block and half away (south direction) on the same side.

[QUOTE=TigreTigre99; 1254210]Tried the place at Shanxi Lu and Changping Lu for HJ. For 206 it is well worth the visit. Girl was cute enough, I asked the doorman for cute girl.

Pretty good HJ and titty massage. The place is clean enough, with separate shower rooms. Easy to find, just look for the big massage sign and the southwest corner from the intersection.[/QUOTE]206rmb is for the promo (not sure if its for the 1st visit or for the 1st months.). Later on is 256rmb. Service here is quite good and regular.

The massage place in the same corner (in changping lu, northwest of the cross) offers a extra oily massage for 338rmb with a BJ (with condom on) or just a HJ for 258rmb. Problem here is that depending of the girl (all about 24yo) you will get a different service: some will take off their top, some will just do a BJ for a while, some will do the HJ like stroking a cat.

Went so Siyuan last Tuesday night about 10:00 pm. I didn't see any other customers there until I was leaving, when 4 other dudes showed up.

Did the lineup which had 7 girls. 6-8's I would say.

Picked #835.

Cute spinner type from Hunan, said she was 20. About 47 kg. Nicely proportioned B-cup natural tits. Good attitude and personality.

Cat bath, AR, BBBJ, DATY. 69. Stuck a finger in her ass which made her squeal but she didn't push my hand away. Started off with western cowgirl which was a bit of surprise to me as most girls in China do the eastern version. Had a merry time and then put her on her back with her ankles up by her ears for some deep penetration. Finished up doggy style.

On the plus side she was definitely enthusiastic and decent (but not fantastic) BJ technique. On the minus side she had some rolls of fat around her belly despite being thin overall and her pussy is kind of loose. Might choose her again to see how her service improves for her regulars.

Afterwards I relaxed a bit and had some food, which was not bad. The ear-picker girls came by often which was annoying. Has anyone ever gotten any action from any of these girls? They are definitely attractive but seem more of a tease.

[QUOTE=TigreTigre99; 1254210]Tried the place at Shanxi Lu and Changping Lu for HJ. For 206 it is well worth the visit. Girl was cute enough, I asked the doorman for cute girl.

Pretty good HJ and titty massage. The place is clean enough, with separate shower rooms. Easy to find, just look for the big massage sign and the southwest corner from the intersection.

The girl tried to up-charge me for a 2 girl massage for 400. She was persistent, and finally I took no for an answer.

Also, south on Shanxi Lu towards the main shopping centers, there were several brothel looking establishments. Didn't try them of course, but may be worth it. There is one on the opposite side of the street on the same block, and another a block and half away (south direction) on the same side.[/QUOTE]Tigre99. Is this the one on Shanxi lu? Or Changping Lu? There are two. I went into the one on Changping, but there was only one girl at the time and she was not too cute so I left. I believe the massage advertised was 339 or 399. I am not sure. The one on Shanxi looked nicer (if I was standing outside the right one) but did not go in. Any comments will be helpful!

Dear reader. I want to say thank all from member who leave the memories here.

I arrive shanghai today. After leave my suit to my hotel everbright I decided to go 999.

I chose 982. She is avarage looking but A gentelman told me there her service is very very good and speak a little English.

Yes her service is 10.

Face: 7.

Tits: 7.

Ass:7.

Try again some lady yes I can because of the service.

[QUOTE=SamCan;1254339]Tigre99. Is this the one on Shanxi lu? Or Changping Lu? There are two. I went into the one on Changping, but there was only one girl at the time and she was not too cute so I left. I believe the massage advertised was 339 or 399. I am not sure. The one on Shanxi looked nicer (if I was standing outside the right one) but did not go in. Any comments will be helpful![/QUOTE]It was the one on Shanxi Lu, I wasn't aware of the one on Changping Lu. Just Southwest of the intersection, with the big massage sign. You can clearly see it from the intersection.

I speak a little Chinese (very little). But say to the guy who shows you the room,"Wo (waa) yao nu (new) haizi (high-z) hen (hun) piaoliang." I want a very beautiful girl. The words in parenthesis is my attempt to spell out in english Mandarin pinyin. That may help.

[QUOTE=WaiGuoRen; 1254293]Went so Siyuan last Tuesday night about 10:00 pm. I didn't see any other customers there until I was leaving, when 4 other dudes showed up.

Did the lineup which had 7 girls. 6-8's I would say.

Picked #835.

Cute spinner type from Hunan, said she was 20. About 47 kg. Nicely proportioned B-cup natural tits. Good attitude and personality.

Cat bath, AR, BBBJ, DATY. 69. Stuck a finger in her ass which made her squeal but she didn't push my hand away. Started off with western cowgirl which was a bit of surprise to me as most girls in China do the eastern version. Had a merry time and then put her on her back with her ankles up by her ears for some deep penetration. Finished up doggy style.

On the plus side she was definitely enthusiastic and decent (but not fantastic) BJ technique. On the minus side she had some rolls of fat around her belly despite being thin overall and her pussy is kind of loose. Might choose her again to see how her service improves for her regulars.

Afterwards I relaxed a bit and had some food, which was not bad. The ear-picker girls came by often which was annoying. Has anyone ever gotten any action from any of these girls? They are definitely attractive but seem more of a tease.[/QUOTE]Yes, some of the ear picker girls offer HJ service. It will cost you extra. They will write it up as a triple-overtime in the timesheet.

Went to Merylin after some promising reports on forum. Ws there late after 11pm line up only 6 and mediocore. Excuse myself which semed to pis off the guys by the fishbowl was taken to footmassage area and went back to fishbowl 15mins later. Same line up but with different girl. Chose the different girl. Godd sevice but nothing spectacular for the higher price. Ws expecting a lineup of min. 8 in looks. Line up at that time was 5-7 looks.

Been to Bodi. Been a few times before. This time very conveyor belt like just processed all the way through. Much better line up at midday did a double or rather let myself get sold into it. Very lackluster performnce. One girl did not wan to do BBBJ then no doggy and no double BBBJ. Other girl was more obliging. Also finished before the 90mins and was processed out. Worst time and first bad service at Bodi.

Hi,

I'm looking for a qq girl in Shanghai that can speak a rather good english (enough to understand easy things). I'm so fed up with qq girls who plays the remake of "Catch me if you can" by giving you pieces of address. The fact is I do speak a very very little Chinese.

So does anybody know a girl like that and whose place is rather easy to find?

Please send me private message if you have.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Shaq6896; 1254090]Hi Money11,

I have used Helen and Friends service. I am quite new to this forum. Was with a girl called Lianna. Service was ok but only massage and too expansive. What do you mean by success? Can one expect more than massage with these girls?

Thanks for reply[/QUOTE]I have had some pretty good fun with, Ida, Ada, Wallis, KK in the past. You pay for the deluxe services, you can usually persuade for more dreaming. She really seems to have picked up her game with girls lately.

Hey Guys,

I have been travelling to Shanghai quite often and I've been meaning to try out the "night" life in Shanghai.

I need some kind advice on some good massage places which you have visited in the past, with special services like 3somes or anything.

I normally stay in the Pudong New District area and would prefer places in this area.

Can anyone help me or direct me to links in this forum?

I really appreciate it!

SimonC.

Don't be lazy, RTFF. Go back about two months and read forward. You can find all you need.

SH.

[QUOTE=Simonc78; 1255402]Hey Guys,

I have been travelling to Shanghai quite often and I've been meaning to try out the "night" life in Shanghai.

I need some kind advice on some good massage places which you have visited in the past, with special services like 3somes or anything.

I normally stay in the Pudong New District area and would prefer places in this area.

Can anyone help me or direct me to links in this forum?

I really appreciate it![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ShangHangin; 1255655]SimonC.

Don't be lazy, RTFF. Go back about two months and read forward. You can find all you need.

SH.[/QUOTE]I agree with you ShangHangin. Reading the last couple months is a good advice. However, finding the information in this forum is pretty hard even with the search feature.

A fix post / section with all places and addresses (and even with reports of distinction related to those places) would be very helpful for everyone.

[QUOTE=MattChatelain; 1254664]Hi,

I'm looking for a qq girl in Shanghai that can speak a rather good english (enough to understand easy things). I'm so fed up with qq girls who plays the remake of "Catch me if you can" by giving you pieces of address. The fact is I do speak a very very little Chinese.

So does anybody know a girl like that and whose place is rather easy to find?

Please send me private message if you have.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]Girls who speak english prefer to go to typical dating places to be hunted instead of waiting to be contacted via QQ.

Many QQ girls live in the same building which usually has a name that you can find even in google maps. Try to look for those ones and you will only have to find the tower number.

I was in Shanghai early December and went to Bodi on a Wednesday evening at 8:30. Showered, changed and went to the room where around 40 girls were for the picking, although most were 5-6. Picked the one with the nicest smile and off we went upstairs. I have never experience anything similar anywhere else in China or the world, but when we got upstairs, there were already 8 other "couples" sitting on little stools in the hallway waiting for their rooms. And I was told that if I pick another girl for RMB500, I would get to the front of the line. It was chilly early December In Shanghai and the girl was in bikinis and I was in a silly robe. We waited for a good 10 mins before a friend of my girl got out from one of the rooms and she was pleasant to my eyes. So I grabbed her and the room. A lot of fun was had as both were good in what they do and happy to be together. But that is probably my last time to Bodi. RMB1388 for 75mins did not represent much value. And some of the staff were rather rude.

Yes, I did my 'RTFF' and prepared a list of places to check out during my stay.

First stop was the Siyuan Spa on the 3rd floor of the MerryLin hotel (across from the InterContinental Hotel). Asked about the price at the front desk first and was told 880 yuan all-inclusive. That was more than I expected and since I only had 800 yuan (plus some dollars) in my wallet, I left. I went down to the Cashier's Desk on the 1st floor of the hotel to change my money, but they refused since I wasn't a registered guest at the hotel.

So, I decided to check out the neighborhood for something cheaper. Walked down the street on the side of the MerryLin Hotel, walked past the Captain Hostel and a nice-looking bakery, then I turned down an alley that had a barbershop pole lit up down the alley. Walked to the barbershop to find an older barber cutting the hair of a middle-aged gentleman, with no signs of young girls, so I assumed it was a legit barbershop and turned back.

On my way back, I noticed what appeared to be the lobby of a 1-star hotel on the right which had a bi-lingual list of massage offerings on the wall, so I went inside. The wall menu listed several lower-priced massages, including a foot massage for a low price, and the last item on the menu was 'special massage. 208 yuan for 60 minutes' so I asked for that massage.

A 60-ish woman led me up two flights of stairs and down several hallways to a room in the back annex. She told me that the girl would be there soon and asked me for 208 yuan. I gave her 210, she left, and I immediately stripped down naked and sat on the bed.

A few minutes later an attractive, slender 21-year-old girl walked in, fully clothed in black jeans and a long-sleeved black sweater with a high neckline, carrying only a bottle of baby oil. She seemed startled to see me naked and immediately told me that she did not offer extra services, that she would massage my front and back above the waist, plus my legs, but not the crotch area. I said that it was supposed to be a special massage and she replied that she did only the massage, no extras. I asked about a HJ and even gave a HJ gesture with my hand and still said no. Since I needed a massage after my long flight, I decided to stay and see what might transpire.

I ended up receiving an excellent massage, although it only lasted 30 minutes. The 'special' part was an interesting and totally professional stomach / abdomen massage that lasted at least 5 minutes while I was lying on my back, with no accidental brushing of her fingers or hands on my groin area.

At the 30 minute mark, she said 'ok, finished. ' I gave the HJ motion again and she replied 'like I said before, no. ' I then said 'I give tip. Renmimbi' and surprisingly, she calmly replied 'ok' then picked up her bottle of baby oil, oiled me up, then performed an excellent, skillful, non-rushed hand job, clearly something she had done hundreds of times before. I was able to roam a bit outside her clothing on her chest and leg. After I cleaned up, I gave her 50 yuan as I walked out the door, and she seemed very happy.

Not sure what the full story was here, but I ended up with a good professional massage and a HJ for 258 yuan from a fully-clothed female, an overpayment. I still chuckle about how calm she was once I said I'the give her a tip, puzzling since she was so outspoken at the beginning that there would be no extra services.

The point of this post is that I visited several 'girly bars' and my overall question is: setting aside the karaoke place in #3 below, are these places legit? Can I get full sex and at least a pseudo-massage for 400 yuan total (or less)? Or are these places a hustle of some sort? I did RTFF and it is not clear what the answer is – here's hoping that one of you will help out a long-time senior member of ISG (who normally posts on the Indonesia board).

I was walking on Nanjing Lu around 6 pm last Monday evening, from the Peoples Square down to the Bund and the riverfront, when a 45-ish plain-dressed Chinese woman came up to me, grabbed my left arm and asked 'You want massage? I bring you to place, many girls. ' I know that it's not a good idea to follow these touts, and I wasn't necessarily looking to get laid that evening, but I was intrigued by this lady, plus I was already walking in that direction, so I decided to humor her and see what might happen.

1) We walked east to the buildings in the mid-600s, turned north (left) up a side street, then east (right) on the first proper street. Walked down a block and there were two large doors painted blue, with no windows. The woman led me inside to a regular bar, with several booths, and 4 scantily-clad girls in their early 20s sitting in the center booth. 3 of the girls were nothing special, but one girl was a knock-out. The mamasan, who was herself only around 38-40, welcomed me, led me and my guide to a small side room, then called for a line-up. She asked me which girl I wanted, and I replied, 'first, how much? ' to which I was told 100 yuan for a massage, and then 300 yuan for full service (I assume this meant that the total price is 400). I then noticed that there were only 3 girls in the line-up, with the knock-out-looking girl missing, so I asked where she was. The mamasan replied that that girl wasn't working at that particular time, so I said sorry, I am not interested in any of the other 3 girls and walked out.

2) My 'guide' followed me out and said no problem, I know a better place with many girls. She led me further east, then down an alley to a local run-down restaurant a half-block north of Nanjing Lu, visible from that street in the mid-500s area. We walked into the restaurant, made a left and walked up a spiral metal staircase to the second floor where there was a bar / brothel. This bar also had a mamasan in her late 30s, and the scene was similar – into a small side room, a line-up appeared, this time with only two girls, and the same pricing structure. I didn't like either girl, so I got up and left.

3) Once again my guide followed me and said no problem, next place is better, many girls. We crossed Nanjing Lu and took a turn to the right down half a block, walked into an office building and took the elevator to the top floor (12th?). This time the place was a deserted karaoke bar. Once again, into a small room, this time the line-up was only one girl who was nothing special. I asked about the price, was told the same 100/300 scenario. I then asked if there were any additional fees since we were in a karaoke bar and was told that there was a 100 yuan room fee plus drinks. Having visions of receiving a US $1, 000 karaoke bill, I said forget it and left.

4) Returned downstairs and said 'no more' to the guide, pointing out that each place had less girls than the one before. I finally was able to shake her off, walked about 50 meters, when two 45-ish plainly-dressed women came up to me 'you want massage. ' I burst out laughing but they insisted they knew another place nearby, so I said ok.

This time, the place was located in one of the largest department stores on the street, with the initials MB. I was puzzled that the two ladies were bringing me into a department store, but once we walked into the front entrance, the ladies led me to the left, to a bank of elevators hidden in a corner. Went up to the 7th floor, where there was a clearly 'local' Chinese food court, with over 100 customers, men, women, children, but no foreigners. The two ladies led me to the rear of the food court, past the toilets, then down a couple of turns down a dimly-lighted hallway to – another brothel! This time I was led into a small room, and a beautiful girl who spoke English was led in, then the two of us were left alone.

This time, I was definitely interested, but I first wanted to make sure the price structure. The girl said '100 for massage. 100 for Hand Job. 300 for full sex, everything. ' I asked 'what about blow job' and was surprised when she replied in perfect English 'No, I don't do blow jobs, they are so dirty and unclean, don't you agree? ' Actually, I didn't agree, and I told her so, and once again got up and left, with my two 'guides' following me back to the elevator. Back downstairs, I said goodbye to the two ladies, and continued to head east.

5) Finally made it to the Bund around 7:15 pm I walked up the stairs to the promenade and an innocent-looking 20-year-old female who was standing with a girlfriend said 'Hello. ' I replied 'Ni hao' and she stepped away.

After a couple of minutes, I walked back to the young lady, said Hello, in English, talked with her a few minutes, then finally said 'why did you say Hello, to me' to which she replied 'I have a business, ' to which I said 'what kind of business? ' and she replied 'I have massage place nearby. ' I asked her if she did the massage and she said 'no, I have many beautiful girls working there' to which I replied 'I think that you are beautiful, I want you to do the massage' to which she replied 'no, the girls there are more beautiful than me, plus I don't do massage, it is not my job' so I said thanks but no, and walked away.

My overall question, as stated above, is: setting aside the karaoke place, are these places legit? Can I get full sex and at least a pseudo-massage for 400 yuan total (or less)? Is that price legit? Or is this a hustle of some sort? I'm curious because I plan on returning to Nanjing Lu this coming week and may visit one of these places.

Thanks in advance for any posts or PMs that answer my question.

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman;1256568]This time, the place was located in one of the largest department stores on the street, with the initials MB. I was puzzled that the two ladies were bringing me into a department store, but once we walked into the front entrance, the ladies led me to the left, to a bank of elevators hidden in a corner. Went up to the 7th floor, where there was a clearly 'local' Chinese food court, with over 100 customers, men, women, children, but no foreigners. The two ladies led me to the rear of the food court, past the toilets, then down a couple of turns down a dimly-lighted hallway to – another brothel! This time I was led into a small room, and a beautiful girl who spoke English was led in, then the two of us were left alone.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your elaborate and well written reports, seems you got away with a very reasonable tip (Y50) for the HJ in the massage place, most foreigners would pay 100-200 depending on the venue. I am most intrigued by the hidden brothel in the department store, please elaborate which one its was (MB?) around where on Nanjing lu. Suppose I would follow your route description, would it be possible to find the place (small room) and see the line-up. Hope it is not unsafe / scam tough, since it is Nanjing lu afterall.

Thanks for your additional info and enjoy your stay in our city, Paris of the East!

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman; 1256568]My overall question, as stated above, is: setting aside the karaoke place, are these places legit? Can I get full sex and at least a pseudo-massage for 400 yuan total (or less)? Is that price legit? Or is this a hustle of some sort? I'm curious because I plan on returning to Nanjing Lu this coming week and may visit one of these places.

Thanks in advance for any posts or PMs that answer my question.[/QUOTE]I think you have been brave and lucky! Lot of guys for much less have been victims of scams where at the best had (quite) some money extracted from his wallet or credit card, at the worst they ended up at the police on the wrong side of the bars and the lucky ones could successfully get out of the ordeal to catch the first plane out of the country and never think of setting his feet in PR China again.

[QUOTE=Wilde;1256262]I was in Shanghai early December and went to Bodi on a Wednesday evening at 8:30. Showered, changed and went to the room where around 40 girls were for the picking, although most were 5-6. Picked the one with the nicest smile and off we went upstairs. I have never experience anything similar anywhere else in China or the world, but when we got upstairs, there were already 8 other "couples" sitting on little stools in the hallway waiting for their rooms. And I was told that if I pick another girl for RMB500, I would get to the front of the line. It was chilly early December In Shanghai and the girl was in bikinis and I was in a silly robe. We waited for a good 10 mins before a friend of my girl got out from one of the rooms and she was pleasant to my eyes. So I grabbed her and the room. A lot of fun was had as both were good in what they do and happy to be together. But that is probably my last time to Bodi. RMB1388 for 75mins did not represent much value. And some of the staff were rather rude.[/QUOTE]Any decent joint in Shanghai would be busy around that time.

If you want a time when Bodi is not busy, I would suggest 2PM.

[QUOTE=Bionicman;1256589]I think you have been brave and lucky! Lot of guys for much less have been victims of scams where at the best had (quite) some money extracted from his wallet or credit card, at the worst they ended up at the police on the wrong side of the bars and the lucky ones could successfully get out of the ordeal to catch the first plane out of the country and never think of setting his feet in PR China again.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Changlelu; 1256576]Thanks for your elaborate and well written reports, seems you got away with a very reasonable tip (Y50) for the HJ in the massage place, most foreigners would pay 100-200 depending on the venue. I am most intrigued by the hidden brothel in the department store, please elaborate which one its was (MB?) around where on Nanjing lu. Suppose I would follow your route description, would it be possible to find the place (small room) and see the line-up. Hope it is not unsafe / scam tough, since it is Nanjing lu afterall.

Thanks for your additional info and enjoy your stay in our city, Paris of the East![/QUOTE]Thanks to Bionicman and Changlelu for their prompt replies and useful comments, and yes, I'm enjoying my stay in the Paris of the East.

Here's my dilemma: assuming that I should avoid the girly bars, my choices seem to be between getting a 258-yuan HJ from a fully-clothed girl or spending 880 yuan to visit Siyuan, Hailang, Heting and other high-end spas. Surely there must be an option in between price-wise?

While I enjoy going to a high-end spa, my wallet can't afford more than one visit at the 880 yuan level, but I can afford a place in the 400-500 yuan level where I can get naked with the girl, play around and then receive a good BJ or FS.

Any recommendations?

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman; 1256764]Thanks to Bionicman and Changlelu for their prompt replies and useful comments, and yes, I'm enjoying my stay in the Paris of the East.

Here's my dilemma: assuming that I should avoid the girly bars, my choices seem to be between getting a 258-yuan HJ from a fully-clothed girl or spending 880 yuan to visit Siyuan, Hailang, Heting and other high-end spas. Surely there must be an option in between price-wise?

While I enjoy going to a high-end spa, my wallet can't afford more than one visit at the 880 yuan level, but I can afford a place in the 400-500 yuan level where I can get naked with the girl, play around and then receive a good BJ or FS.

Any recommendations?[/QUOTE]Most places, after you get in to the 208rmb massages, you can get a little more from the girl as far as touching, naked and such for an extra 100-200 RMB / That will put you at your price point. I come to shanghai often.

I found a $300 RMB massage girl that would come to my room for 60 minutes and a HJ for $450. I started having just her (she is really my type) come to the room. It progressed to full service freebees and GF. Took some gifts, some time and a little commitment but it worked for me.

If you don't have that much time, go with plan A. Find the right girl / place and repeat. Relationships in China pay off. In all business transactions LOL.

[QUOTE=SamCan; 1256869]Most places, after you get in to the 208rmb massages, you can get a little more from the girl as far as touching, naked and such for an extra 100-200 RMB / That will put you at your price point. I come to shanghai often.

I found a $300 RMB massage girl that would come to my room for 60 minutes and a HJ for $450. I started having just her (she is really my type) come to the room. It progressed to full service freebees and GF. Took some gifts, some time and a little commitment but it worked for me.

If you don't have that much time, go with plan A. Find the right girl / place and repeat. Relationships in China pay off. In all business transactions LOL.[/QUOTE]I agree with SamCan. I tend to build relationships at the massage places, then turn it into take away. But since you don't have time, try out Sacrosa, it's less than SiYuan. I have not been in a while, so can not speak to quality. Also, I have pulled FS from a massage place on ZhangYang Lu down from SiYuan. Do a search on my old posts.

[url]http://www.InternationalSexGuide.info/forum/showthread.php?945-East-China-Shanghai&p=1171263&viewfull=1#post1171263[/url]

Or you can try the BBS.

SH

[QUOTE=ShangHangin; 1256898]I agree with SamCan. I tend to build relationships at the massage places, then turn it into take away. But since you don't have time, try out Sacrosa, it's less than SiYuan. I have not been in a while, so can not speak to quality. Also, I have pulled FS from a massage place on ZhangYang Lu down from SiYuan. Do a search on my old posts.

[url]http://www.InternationalSexGuide.info/forum/showthread.php?945-East-China-Shanghai&p=1171263&viewfull=1#post1171263[/url]

Or you can try the BBS.

SH[/QUOTE]I would also suggest Sacrosa. I have not been there in a while but I used to frequent it. The price before 4:30pm or so was 580RMB and 680RMB after. Not a soapy.

Hi guys,

Moved from New Pudong side to a flat off nanjing Road. Been out scouting looking for some MP with HE. Any reccomendations in the area?

Looked thru the threads, found one or two thus far, will keep looking also.

[QUOTE=ExpatGuy1; 1257193]Hi guys,

Moved from New Pudong side to a flat off nanjing Road. Been out scouting looking for some MP with HE. Any reccomendations in the area?

Looked thru the threads, found one or two thus far, will keep looking also.[/QUOTE]You need to give a cross street. NJ road is a very long road. You might as well have said "I moved to Puxi."

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman; 1256568]The point of this post is that I visited several 'girly bars' and my overall question is: setting aside the karaoke place in #3 below, are these places legit.

1) We walked east to the buildings in the mid-600s, turned north (left) up a side street, then east (right) on the first proper street. Walked down a block and there were two large doors painted blue, with no windows. The woman led me inside to a regular bar, with several booths, and 4 scantily-clad girls in their early 20s sitting in the center booth.

2) My 'guide'. Led me further east, then down an alley to a local run-down restaurant a half-block north of Nanjing Lu, visible from that street in the mid-500s area. We walked into the restaurant, made a left and walked up a spiral metal staircase to the second floor where there was a bar / brothel. This bar also had a mamasan in her late 30s, and the scene was similar – into a small side room, a line-up appeared, this time with only two girls, and the same pricing structure. I didn't like either girl, so I got up and left.

3) We crossed Nanjing Lu and took a turn to the right down half a block, walked into an office building and took the elevator to the top floor (12th?). This time the place was a deserted karaoke bar.

4) This time, the place was located in one of the largest department stores on the street, with the initials MB. I was puzzled that the two ladies were bringing me into a department store, but once we walked into the front entrance, the ladies led me to the left, to a bank of elevators hidden in a corner. Went up to the 7th floor, where there was a clearly 'local' Chinese food court, with over 100 customers, men, women, children, but no foreigners. The two ladies led me to the rear of the food court, past the toilets, then down a couple of turns down a dimly-lighted hallway to – another brothel! This time I was led into a small room, and a beautiful girl who spoke English was led in, then the two of us were left alone.

5) Finally made it to the Bund around 7:15 pm I walked up the stairs to the promenade and an innocent-looking 20-year-old female who was standing with a girlfriend said 'Hello. '.[/QUOTE]I wasn't sure how much information to give in my e-mail last week about the four 'girly bar' places that I visited. Here are the addresses (all on/near the pedestrian-only part of Nanjing Lu):

1) The street-level bar with two windowless doors is located between 415 and 423 Tianjin Road, just east of Zhejiang Road North. Tianjin Road is parallel to and one block to the north of Nanjing Lu. This bar has a sign that says 'BEER COFFEE' above the door, plus some Chinese characters.

I walked into this place around 6 pm and found the same late 30-ish attractive mamasan and the same girls who were on duty last week.

2) The brothel that is located above a restaurant is located in the "Tianhuitian Restaurant." This place is located in a side alley just off of Nanjing Lu to the north, between #500 and #508 and a 'Tianhuitian Restaurant' sign in English is easily visible from Nanjing Lu.

Interestingly, as I stood on Nanjing Lu getting ready to write down this information on a piece of paper, a 35-ish Chinese woman walked up to me, said 'let's go' grabbed my left elbow and tried to walk down the alley with me. A 50-ish white man who had been standing at the corner yelled out to me in English 'don't go there, it's a tourist trap! ' I shook off the girl and walked up to the guy and asked, what kind of trap? He replied, it's a trap because once you get into the place, you'll be charged a lot of extra money, maybe over a thousand yuan for drinks, room charges, etc. I thanked him and left.

3) Diagonally across Nanjing Lu from this tiny alley is a wider pedestrian walkway that's only around 50 meters long. The landmark is that the building on the left hand side is 497 Nanjing Lu. If you walk down to the end of this walkway, on the left at the end is a non-descript 13 story building, with a 'Star Hairdo' shop on the ground floor, and a bank of elevators to the left of the shop. The karaoke place is located on the 12th (or 13th) floor here. I also learned that there's a place on the 8th floor of this building named 'Brazilian Coffee' that looks like a girly bar, with some girls on duty, plus apparently some of the female streetwalkers bring their customers here to use the private rooms here.

On the 5th floor of 497 Nanjing Lu is a legitimate massage place, that offers foot massages, back massages in the open, etc. Not sure if any additional services are available here.

4) The major department store that has a brothel / girly bar on its 7th floor (behind the food court) is Meters Bonwe.

Also, if you walk east from Meters Bonwe, just before the entrance to the Metro subway on the north side, there's some restaurants, with a 'UBC Coffee' shop on the third floor. In addition to the usual tables, customers can also sit in one of three little rooms off to the side that have sliding doors that close; evidently, girls can bring their male customers to the UBC Coffee shop, go into one of the rooms, order overpriced tea / coffee / juice, then slide the door closed and get to work. Not sure if there's room charge here as I didn't partake.

5) I never made it back to the Bund, so I don't know where the location of the last place is.

[B]Summary:[/B] Take the advice of posters here such as Bionicman and Changlelu, and the gentleman standing outside the Tianhuitian Restaurant, and avoid these places. Better to go to one of the high-end places, a BBS or one of the other established massage places.

I've been successful on Nanjing Road (east) a few times looking takeout. On the weekends there are usually a few freelancers working. They usually won't approach laowai's so you will need to put on the charm and make first contact. Stay away from the "let's go have a drink" scam girls. When they ask me, I say, no I would rather go back to your place and boink, none have taken me up on the offer. One time, I had a girl ask me if I wanted to visit a girly bar, after several "only look, only look" and me declining. I said, I will be here eating my Mc D's ice-cream for about 15 minutes, bring out a girl, if I like her, I will take her home. She did, I did.

For all you visitors, Nanjing Road is scam central, separating you from your money their specialty so be careful out there.

[QUOTE=ExpatGuy1; 1257193]Hi guys,

Moved from New Pudong side to a flat off nanjing Road. Been out scouting looking for some MP with HE. Any reccomendations in the area?

Looked thru the threads, found one or two thus far, will keep looking also.[/QUOTE]Sorry your right, should have indicated a location on Nanjing Lu. I am right behid the Four Seasons Hotel. I did find the place MD was refering to, went, not bad, will try it again.

Thank You!

hi all. sorry for my english.

if you were to choose to go to shanghai (i'm just in and i was like a little baby).

i read the english speaking forums about "bad boys" in shanghai, who are invited to bars / pubs / clubs with the girls (the girls are really nice and they look like children) and you take for example at the entry bear at a reasonable price, then the some girs jump beside u & take anything such as mineral water, and when you exit it turns out that you have to pay $ 700 (because the water in this club is extremely expensive).

today i flew to shanghai around 12:00 and decided to eat "something". walking through the streets of shanghai (people's square plays host) , i was repeatedly "importuned" to take advantage of the 2 beautiful girls. but experienced politely refused and pushed forward, the nangin road (do not know how to spell, but it is the main pedestrian street of shanghai) the girls were walking with me even to the stores, they were pretty cool girls. of course, what manner of texts were europeans are pretty, handsome,"gentel", etc (oh my god, but gave up approaches). gone through with me, except that 45 min. dragged me around the shops etc.

later i knowe cautions on the net, i told them i was hungry and i chose the restaurant. nothing special restaurant, a typical chinese. shit, syphilis, and grave, they said that they are hungry, so i invited them: thinking. a measure of 15:00, restaurants trifling will be ok. ordered "some" meat, rice, spring rolls, salads and "something" to drink.

we ate and to the common bowls joined my third (their peers) and the waitress brought eight glasses vile whiskey, which the newly created knowledge we had. the conversation took place on topics such as massage will look like, how much per hour, etc. i then been activated, however,"red light" and asked for the bill.

they brought and it turned out that it is on. 100 usd (7000 yuan)

he turned pale, keeping a cool head and experienced the entries on the other side ordered that staff called the police, after 10 min the police was not there, so i took the phone and dialed 110 (emergency phone in china). she pulled off the phone of me and said they do not want problems and price "fell" in 3500 yuan or 550usd. going forward i tried to call the police, but she took the phone of me againolice claiming that it was not me i ordered drinks (according to the truth, because it turned out that whiskey 30ml costs about $ 75, but the lady grabbed the phone again.

after the great fairs, not wanting to wait any longer (because the science of this and so have some flow) agreed to pay $ 300 just for food.

any way it cost me 300 usd.

now is a little easier for me because i share with u. as "old" and experienced peasant allowed himself to be done as a 6-year-old.

so beware that gentlemen. not only touts the pubs / clubs / bars are "dangerous, but also a nice walking girls that will catch you on the street.

greetings from shanghai. unless i should to shoot "goal" to relieve nerve. but i do not know if i will not be again. jurk.

pablito.

as laowaisha wrote:

for all you visitors, nanjing road is scam central, separating you from your money their specialty so be careful out there.

[QUOTE=Pablito69; 1258022] (I'm just in and I was like a little baby).[/QUOTE]Seems we all will have the same experience one day. I read a lot about the tricks before I went to Shanghai first time. So walking on the Nanjing Lu, a nice "student" start to talk with me (only for english training, you know.) , than we talked, walked around a little bit, she tried to push me into a teahouse and I thought I can be more clever than her. Thought if I decide the restaurant, she has no chance to cheat me. So I selected my "own" restaurant, a little bit away from the main Road. I cared a lot to make sure, restaurant is decided by myself to avoid any "connection" between the restaurant and her. I avoid to order any special drinks, only water and juice, after we finished, the bill was around 1800 RMB. (Normal price in this restaurant should be not more than around 150 to 200 for what we got. I went there again with a Chinese friend later to check the menue prices). Seems even the girl did not know the stuff there, she find a way to deal with them to scam the "stupid tourist". So hope our experience will help others to act more "clever" than we did.

Have Fun Guys!

how many warnings have been posted by members? more than i can remember! again, do not go with touts, ladies who approach you, etc. or you will be fleeced. even going to a restaurant where you think you are in control, you are not unless you speak the language and do all the ordering. never let anyone you don't know order anything at any place. look at the menu, understand the price before, not after.

china is a place where a fool and his money will soon be parted. enough said.

sh.

[quote=pablito69; 1258022]hi all. sorry for my english.

if you were to choose to go to shanghai (i'm just in and i was like a little baby).

i read the english speaking forums about "bad boys" in shanghai, who are invited to bars / pubs / clubs with the girls (the girls are really nice and they look like children) and you take for example at the entry bear at a reasonable price, then the some girs jump beside u & take anything such as mineral water, and when you exit it turns out that you have to pay $ 700 (because the water in this club is extremely expensive).

today i flew to shanghai around 12:00 and decided to eat "something". walking through the streets of shanghai (people's square plays host) , i was repeatedly "importuned" to take advantage of the 2 beautiful girls. but experienced politely refused and pushed forward, the nangin road (do not know how to spell, but it is the main pedestrian street of shanghai) the girls were walking with me even to the stores, they were pretty cool girls. of course, what manner of texts were europeans are pretty, handsome,"gentel", etc (oh my god, but gave up approaches). gone through with me, except that 45 min. dragged me around the shops etc.

later i knowe cautions on the net, i told them i was hungry and i chose the restaurant. nothing special restaurant, a typical chinese. shit, syphilis, and grave, they said that they are hungry, so i invited them: thinking. a measure of 15:00, restaurants trifling will be ok. ordered "some" meat, rice, spring rolls, salads and "something" to drink.

we ate and to the common bowls joined my third (their peers) and the waitress brought eight glasses vile whiskey, which the newly created knowledge we had. the conversation took place on topics such as massage will look like, how much per hour, etc. i then been activated, however,"red light" and asked for the bill.

they brought and it turned out that it is on. 100 usd (7000 yuan)

he turned pale, keeping a cool head and experienced the entries on the other side ordered that staff called the police, after 10 min the police was not there, so i took the phone and dialed 110 (emergency phone in china). she pulled off the phone of me and said they do not want problems and price "fell" in 3500 yuan or 550usd. going forward i tried to call the police, but she took the phone of me againolice claiming that it was not me i ordered drinks (according to the truth, because it turned out that whiskey 30ml costs about $ 75, but the lady grabbed the phone again.

after the great fairs, not wanting to wait any longer (because the science of this and so have some flow) agreed to pay $ 300 just for food.

any way it cost me 300 usd.

now is a little easier for me because i share with u. as "old" and experienced peasant allowed himself to be done as a 6-year-old.

so beware that gentlemen. not only touts the pubs / clubs / bars are "dangerous, but also a nice walking girls that will catch you on the street.

greetings from shanghai. unless i should to shoot "goal" to relieve nerve. but i do not know if i will not be again. jurk.

pablito.

as laowaisha wrote:

for all you visitors, nanjing road is scam central, separating you from your money their specialty so be careful out there.[/quote]

[QUOTE=ShangHangin; 1258227]How many warnings have been posted by members? More than I can remember! Again, do not go with touts, ladies who approach you, etc. Or you will be fleeced. Even going to a restaurant where you think you are in control, you are not unless you speak the language and do all the ordering. Never let anyone you don't know order anything at any place. Look at the menu, understand the price before, not after.

China is a place where a fool and his money will soon be parted. Enough said.

SH.[/QUOTE]Well said. Lots of newbies come here asking where to go, which girl to be picked up, about the best sauna, MP, KTV.

Nobody cares to ask "what should I do not? Which places should I avoid?"

Nevertheless there are tons of warnings, but still.

[QUOTE=Steven Long; 1258211]Seems we all will have the same experience one day. I read a lot about the tricks before I went to Shanghai first time. So walking on the Nanjing Lu, a nice "student" start to talk with me (only for english training, you know.) , than we talked, walked around a little bit, she tried to push me into a teahouse and I thought I can be more clever than her. Thought if I decide the restaurant, she has no chance to cheat me. So I selected my "own" restaurant, a little bit away from the main Road. I cared a lot to make sure, restaurant is decided by myself to avoid any "connection" between the restaurant and her. I avoid to order any special drinks, only water and juice, after we finished, the bill was around 1800 RMB. (Normal price in this restaurant should be not more than around 150 to 200 for what we got. I went there again with a Chinese friend later to check the menue prices). Seems even the girl did not know the stuff there, she find a way to deal with them to scam the "stupid tourist". So hope our experience will help others to act more "clever" than we did.

Have Fun Guys![/QUOTE]Steven,

Good thinking on your part, but realize, these girls are professionals. Any restaurant, any where near Nanjing road, without Chinese language skills, you have no chance. She just had to mention splitting the take with the waiter (ess) , and you are done. At least you only dropped 1800 rmb. The cost of two good sauna sessions.

Visitors, be warned. If you want to lose your cash, go with the touts and cute "students" on Nanjing Road, the Bund and other tourist spots. If you want real return on investment, RTFF to find reputable P4P places.

Out searching for a little wham bang today and found a string of BBS's on the Pudong side near FangCao Lu & BaiYang Lu, on the south side of the street. Damage 300rmb.

I walked in and there were two girls sitting, one was a bit homely, the other was totally stacked. I picked the goodie and we headed into one of the typical BBS suits, I asked for a BJ, she agreed and pulled down her top to reveal the most 'amazing' set of tata's I've seen in my bbs adventures so far, After a couple of minutes of BBBJ work, Iasked her to climb on top so I could play with those gorgeous breasts. Did the cowgirl to the end. This girl was HOT.

Later!

[QUOTE=LaoWaiSha;1259281]Out searching for a little wham bang today and found a string of BBS's on the Pudong side near FangCao Lu & BaiYang Lu, on the south side of the street. Damage 300rmb.[/QUOTE]This area is very local, so how come they charge 300 for a foreigner (I assume you are) , did you negotiate?

Hello, Mongers, thank you for all your posts. I'm making my first trip to SH next week. Sadly, I have a co-worker joining me. I know from reading ordering services from the hotels spa is expensive, but what if that's my only option. What can I expect to pay, and to get (quality and service)? Did it in Jakarta a few years ago and it was sweet! Also, I don't see any posts about in or around the Shanghai Xintiandi Langham Hotel. Is there anything very close if I can duck out for a short period?

Thanks in advance. Will report back.

[QUOTE=Changlelu;1259484]This area is very local, so how come they charge 300 for a foreigner (I assume you are) , did you negotiate?[/QUOTE]Yeah you know, usually I'm a great bargainer and I usually bargain to the point where the other party gets pissed. I definitely am interested in getting more bang for the buck, so I will need to work on this, instead of tossing my wallet at them and diving in.

[QUOTE=TimScott1210; 1259492]Hello, Mongers, thank you for all your posts. I'm making my first trip to SH next week. Sadly, I have a co-worker joining me. I know from reading ordering services from the hotels spa is expensive, but what if that's my only option. What can I expect to pay, and to get (quality and service)? Did it in Jakarta a few years ago and it was sweet! Also, I don't see any posts about in or around the Shanghai Xintiandi Langham Hotel. Is there anything very close if I can duck out for a short period?

Thanks in advance. Will report back.[/QUOTE]If you read this thread, not quite sure how you could possibly miss all of the posts on the Spas. Dream Spa in Pudong, Bodi, and about half a dozen others. Numerous reviews, prices, top picks for ladies. A wealth of information all at your fingertips. Expect to pay between 700 to 880 RMB for about an hour or 1. 5 hours.

As for Xintaindi, I would steer clear of any of the WG in that area, way to high priced and you will get ripped off.

[QUOTE=Landa; 1249989]After being several months reading the forum (despite I just registered an account) I decided to help a little and find more info about the place requested (I got the info from Chinese forums)

Jiashan Road, Lane 256, cross with Jianguo North Road.

In Jiashan Road, go north about 80 meters. On the left side, the big place.[/QUOTE]I tried this place out the other day. The building is not marked at all so it may be hard to find. It is a big square building. The address plate on it says "1", not "258". You need to walk north of Jianguo Road on Jiashan. It is across the street from some high-rise construction. You can tell you're at the right place because there will be at least one Chinese dude hanging around out front for no apparent reason.

This place is at least 4 floors. The first floor is the sauna area but it is closed with the lights shut off. You get taken up to a relaxation room and then a mommy will bring you to the fishbowl. I selected a 20 why. O from Anhui who was very pretty, almost like a Chinese / caucasian mix. Nice ass, pencil eraser nipples but she had "A" tits which turned out to be implants. Yes,"Then why get implants?" question crossed my mind too. She had also trimmed her Bush, which is a rarity in China.

Upstairs the private room is very large, at least double the size of the ones in Merrylin. We both stripped in the room so no robes necessary or provided. She cleaned me off in the shower area and we did a slip and slide on the air mattress in the shower. One gripe is that the water kept running hot and cold. Afterwards it was off to the bed where she did the cat bath, RIM, BBBJ. Then to 69, cowgirl, straight missionary, and then doggie so I could get a great view of sliding in and out of the gorgeous ass of hers.

Service was overall ok. Kind of giggly which is a cute trait.

I was charged 780. I will ask the mommy to try one of the themed rooms next time.

[QUOTE=WaiGuoRen; 1259794]I tried this place out the other day. The building is not marked at all so it may be hard to find. It is a big square building. The address plate on it says "1", not "258". You need to walk north of Jianguo Road on Jiashan. It is across the street from some high-rise construction. You can tell you're at the right place because there will be at least one Chinese dude hanging around out front for no apparent reason.

This place is at least 4 floors. The first floor is the sauna area but it is closed with the lights shut off. You get taken up to a relaxation room and then a mommy will bring you to the fishbowl. I selected a 20 why. O from Anhui who was very pretty, almost like a Chinese / caucasian mix. Nice ass, pencil eraser nipples but she had "A" tits which turned out to be implants. Yes,"Then why get implants?" question crossed my mind too. She had also trimmed her Bush, which is a rarity in China.

Upstairs the private room is very large, at least double the size of the ones in Merrylin. We both stripped in the room so no robes necessary or provided. She cleaned me off in the shower area and we did a slip and slide on the air mattress in the shower. One gripe is that the water kept running hot and cold. Afterwards it was off to the bed where she did the cat bath, RIM, BBBJ. Then to 69, cowgirl, straight missionary, and then doggie so I could get a great view of sliding in and out of the gorgeous ass of hers.

Service was overall ok. Kind of giggly which is a cute trait.

I was charged 780. I will ask the mommy to try one of the themed rooms next time.[/QUOTE]Hi, do you mean she allowed anal sex?

Thank you for the nice report.

Treesome

Hello,

I cannot find some good threads detailing how you do this.

I have QQ. I am in contact with many girls.

I do not speak Chinese but I manage.

Can somebody explain to me in detail hw to access their photo galleries?

They often send me a password and assume than I can access their gallery but I cannot.

I have QQ International.

Thanks for your help.

Best,

L.

Bro, have the cursor pointed at the QQ Gril pic, then right click, click on "Open Qzone". A new IE screen will appear, look for this wording "&30456; &20876;" and click on it. Once in, click on the LOCK folder, a password screen will appear. You should know what to do next. Cheers!

[QUOTE=LouisM; 1260114]Hello,

I cannot find some good threads detailing how you do this.

I have QQ. I am in contact with many girls.

I do not speak Chinese but I manage.

Can somebody explain to me in detail hw to access their photo galleries?

They often send me a password and assume than I can access their gallery but I cannot.

I have QQ International.

Thanks for your help.

Best,

L.[/QUOTE]

Hey guys,

I have a couple of customers coming tomorrow from States side. Does anyone have any recommendations on a real massage place near JingAn Temple area (or in Puxi) that won't break the bank? No special service required as I'm sure these guys won't be going for it.

I've searched the web and websites like cityweekend dot com dot cn. All the places are expensive to say the least.

Thanks!

A

Kangdao massage on nanjingeast road. Congen massage is legit too. About 90 rmb for 1 hr foot or back.

[QUOTE=Arizona123; 1260873]Hey guys,

I have a couple of customers coming tomorrow from States side. Does anyone have any recommendations on a real massage place near JingAn Temple area (or in Puxi) that won't break the bank? No special service required as I'm sure these guys won't be going for it.

I've searched the web and websites like cityweekend dot com dot cn. All the places are expensive to say the least.

Thanks!

A[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Arizona123; 1260873]Hey guys,

I have a couple of customers coming tomorrow from States side. Does anyone have any recommendations on a real massage place near JingAn Temple area (or in Puxi) that won't break the bank? No special service required as I'm sure these guys won't be going for it.

I've searched the web and websites like cityweekend dot com dot cn. All the places are expensive to say the least.

Thanks!

A[/QUOTE]Yu Massage on no. 370 Wuyuan Road near Wukang Road will give you an hour or more of really great non-sexual massage for less than 300 rmb. Zen Massage at 210 Wuyuan near Wulumuqi similar, and has regular 2-person specials. Don't know how big your bank is, but prices at theseplaces are less than half of hotel spas.

[QUOTE=Arizona123; 1260873]Hey guys,

I have a couple of customers coming tomorrow from States side. Does anyone have any recommendations on a real massage place near JingAn Temple area (or in Puxi) that won't break the bank? No special service required as I'm sure these guys won't be going for it.

I've searched the web and websites like cityweekend dot com dot cn. All the places are expensive to say the least.

Thanks!

A[/QUOTE]Check out Dragonfly (dragonfly dot net dot cn). Outlets in Puxi on Donghu Lu, Dagu Lu, Hongmei Lu and Xinle Lu. Safe, good and no hanky panky. Around 300 RMB as far as I remember.

I am traveling to shanghai next month, and Have been reading the forum but could not find any recommendations for GF hotels?

Does any one have an experience to share, like is there walk of shame? Does they take the girl I'd? Etc.

[QUOTE=ShangHangin; 1258227]How many warnings have been posted by members? More than I can remember! Again, do not go with touts, ladies who approach you, etc. Or you will be fleeced. Even going to a restaurant where you think you are in control, you are not unless you speak the language and do all the ordering. Never let anyone you don't know order anything at any place. Look at the menu, understand the price before, not after.

China is a place where a fool and his money will soon be parted. Enough said.

SH.[/QUOTE]On the Nanjing Road walking street if you want to be safe and you are hungry and can't control the urge to invite one of these rip-off girls to a meal thinking.

You will score (You won't) you should go to places like the Sofitel, KFC, McDonalds where there is no way you can be ripped off. Going to a little Chinese place

Anywhere in the area no matter whose choice will get you screwed as the girls and touts have an extensive network of a couple hundred people in that area running.

Knock-off shops, fake KTV, student English scams, restaurant scams, and street merchants selling stuff for 8x the going rate. YOU WILL NOT WIN! Please take the advice of someone who has been living in Shanghai for over 9 years and knows the ropes.

I know many people want to find the freebie and get an ego boost when a girl comes up to you. But keep your head straight. In China, if you are around for a short time.

Don't take chances. Go to BBS or Saunas where members have been and posted on frequently.

Finally, another scam to watch out for that I haven't seen posted is the Chinese ladies in front of Manhattan on Nanyang Road. At 2-3 AM if you leave there without a girl, you may be approached by some older ladies offering you a 50RMB BJ out back. Do not go there. One guy I know went and as he was getting the BJ two others came to grab his coat and wallet and he was caught with his pants down. Unlucky for the ladies he was an ex-bouncer. Drunk as he was he managed to give them what they had coming and got away with scratch marks. Not everyone can be so lucky. Stick with the nice Viet girls inside who can be quite reasonable in price as the night gets on.

Be safe all.

Fellow mongers,

Thanks for all the great info on the forums. On a trip to Shanghai currently and did my fair share of work reading the forums to figure out various places to check out. Yesterday (Saturday) afternoon, took a Taxi to Sarcosa. After multiple searches on this forum, found a good post that gave specific directions (close to a mall that has kfc / pizza hut / Hagen Daz). Got the hotel front desk to write down the address for me in Chinese and showed it to the Taxi driver. After getting dropped off in front of the mall, found the place and I'm pretty sure without the forum post, I would never have found it! No signs in front and there are a couple of mean looking Chinese security guard types sitting in front. Just walked in straight and took the elevator to the 5th floor. This was around 4. 30 pm Was directed to a common room where I stripped down and put my clothes in the locker. Guy then gives me a wrist band that has the number of the locker. Then asked to shower. Common showers similar to gyms in the USA. After that, was given a robe, taken to a small room and asked to wait. TV was on and it was a pretty old room with stale cigarette smoke smell. Guy asks me what do I want to drink and having read about all the scams, for a moment, I felt I had walked into something else here and was going to be fleeced. Told him, just a glass of water and he said fine. Got back with it in a couple of minutes. No worries. After about 15 minutes, was led out to another room where there were about 6 or 7 girls in the lineup. All of them said the ni-haos but did not make eye contact. Weird. Everyone just looking away. I was hoping one of them would smile and make some attempt at contact. Took a couple of mins and then picked one out who had slightly bigger boobs than the rest. Decent sized body. Would guess she was either in her late 20s or early thirties. I think her number was either 308 or 508. She then took me to another room which had a bed and big mirror on the side of the wall. Then left and said will be back in a few mins. I don't speak Chinese and she spoke a bit of english. Enough to communicate. After a while she comes back with a bag that has a bunch of things. Tissues, water bottles, cover etc. She makes some small talk and then helps to undress me, takes off her dress and then begins a light so so massage. I'm not really feeling a connection here. Try some jokes to break the ice and she joins in too. Pretends to snore and sleep and I play along with her massaging her and playing with her boobs and ass. Then she gets down to giving a BBBJ. I've had much better. Funny thing was that every 2 mins, she's stop, gargle some water, spit it out and then back to BBBJ. After some of this, I take over, put her on her back and then dive in for some DATY. Typical Chinese unshaven pussy. Clean and fresh. I go at DATY (my favorite) for about 15 mins. She seems to enjoy it but you never know. After that, on comes the cover and we do multiple positions. She is quite tight and that was good. After about 15-20 mins, we finish. Then a few mins to relax and then dress up. Another thing to note was that she got her own timer and started it from the moment we undressed. At the end of the session, it showed 70 mins. Then she makes a call to the front desk and gives me the phone. I say o. K on the phone. Then we step out. She gives me a cigarette lighter with the number of sarcosa on it. Asks me to call the next day and ask for her number. We say our good byes. I step out to the showers again. Take one and then dress up. Go to the front desk and the charge is 580 RMB. Was pleasantly surprised since I was expecting around 700. Step out, hail a cab and back to my hotel. Overall, I would say it was a good experience for the price but may not repeat. The whole thing felt a bit mechanical since there was really no connection. Decided to check out Bodi the next day. That will be another TR.

After my trip to Sarcosa yesterday which turned out okay nothing great. Decided to try Bodi today. Was interested in checking out the soapy and was hoping to get a place cleaner than Sarcosa. Again, following the forum posts, got the address, had the hotel front desk write it for me in Chinese and hailed a cab. Cab dropped me in front of the Bodi Hotel. Got out and went to the right since I had seen a door there while driving in. Got close to the door and the gate security called out to me. I told him "Sauna?" and he smiled and pointed the other way (to the left of the hotel). Walked over there, went thru the doors and to the front desk. More professional and cleaner than sarcosa. Security in suits. Strip, put away clothes in locker, wear robe and then taken to a large sized waiting room. There were about 10+ dudes sitting over there. Smoky room. After about 15 mins, myself and 2 of the other Chinese customers were called and taken upstairs to a room where there were about a dozen girls. Definitely much better looking selection than sarcosa. This time, lot of the girls made eye contact and smiled. Had a hard time choosing and then picked a early 20s looking thing who had a nice pouty lip and hair till her shoulders. She had a nice smile. Number 571 I believe. The two Chinese dudes made a quick selection as soon as they walked in. Then the three or us were led by the girls upstairs and then I was taken to a room that had a bed with a mirror on the wall and ceiling. Attached to it was a bathroom that had the table for the soapy. I try to make small chat with the girl but she speaks no english. Even attempts at fun and jokes got no reactions. And during this time, she's busy texting away on her cell. Not a great start. Then she asks me to strip and get on the soapy table. Gives me a nice bath with soap. Rubs her tits / pussy on my back. Cleans out my gloryhole for a while. Then turn around. Soaps herself and the same rub on my chest and thighs. Then cleanup. To the bed and then she lays me on my stomach and then gives the tongue bath. It was okayjust a bit on the back. A bit on the legs and then a little bit on the glory hole. Did not seem like she was enjoying it. Then turned around. Licked my nipples and then starts a BBBJ. Not strong enough for me. Too soft. The good part was that in the middle, she took some hot liquid in her mouth and then continued the BBBJ which felt pretty amazing. After a while, she takes out a pink vibrator, lays down on her back and points me to use it on her. It's a dual head. She's using one on her clit and she asks me to put the other one in her pussy. Do this for a while but with her fake moans and all, I'm not really enjoying it. After a few mins, take the vibrator off and then I dive in for DATY. Smells and tastes clean but doesn't want me in there too long. I then decide to just take control and go for it. Put on the cover and start missionary. She is a bit loose but I start to pound away. Her tits are a size be and really soft. Ingrown nipples. Light brown. Squeeze them hard and lick while I'm pounding away. It would have been wonderful if I had been able to DFK her but she wouldn't kiss. After pounding for 10 mins, ask her to cowgirl so that I can view those knockers bouncing. After a while, go for doggy and really give it to her. She's now moaning so loudly. After a glorious 10 mins or so, have a long finish. She immediately jumps off, gets into the shower and cleans herself up. Motions for me to shower too. Again, by the time I'm showered, she's back on her cell. We dress up and I get to the front where the damage is 880 RMB. Given the experience, IMO, this was way too much for the service. I guess in this game, it's a hit or miss. Once you have a good connection or the gal is friendly, it makes it all the more fun. Taxi back to hotel and then type the TR. Overall, it was good to try it out but then for the sort of mechanical service, can find someplace cheaper. Oh well. Planning on hitting manhattan tonite. Hopefully will meet a viet or filipina who is a bit more passionate (& will not break the bank). BTW, been trying to find out going rates for LT at Manhattan. I would like to get back to the hotel by 11. 00 p. M so that I get atleast 6 hours or so with the gal. Any input on the going rates given that this is a Sunday nite? Looks like closer to 1. 00 a. M or so the rates may be better but would it be possible to get an LT for around RMB 1500 by 11.

I can not add anymore-after over ten years of traveling China, especially SH. I hang around the french concession and Xin Tain Di, just sitting having a bottle of wine, watching people. The amount of girls that come up and sit down." buy that dress in that store and I will go home with you", lets go have a drink and then I come with you for a private party", and so on.

[QUOTE=Dragon D; 1261575]On the Nanjing Road walking street if you want to be safe and you are hungry and can't control the urge to invite one of these rip-off girls to a meal thinking.

You will score (You won't) you should go to places like the Sofitel, KFC, McDonalds where there is no way you can be ripped off. Going to a little Chinese place

Anywhere in the area no matter whose choice will get you screwed as the girls and touts have an extensive network of a couple hundred people in that area running.

Knock-off shops, fake KTV, student English scams, restaurant scams, and street merchants selling stuff for 8x the going rate. YOU WILL NOT WIN! Please take the advice of someone who has been living in Shanghai for over 9 years and knows the ropes.

I know many people want to find the freebie and get an ego boost when a girl comes up to you. But keep your head straight. In China, if you are around for a short time.

Don't take chances. Go to BBS or Saunas where members have been and posted on frequently.

Finally, another scam to watch out for that I haven't seen posted is the Chinese ladies in front of Manhattan on Nanyang Road. At 2-3 AM if you leave there without a girl, you may be approached by some older ladies offering you a 50RMB BJ out back. Do not go there. One guy I know went and as he was getting the BJ two others came to grab his coat and wallet and he was caught with his pants down. Unlucky for the ladies he was an ex-bouncer. Drunk as he was he managed to give them what they had coming and got away with scratch marks. Not everyone can be so lucky. Stick with the nice Viet girls inside who can be quite reasonable in price as the night gets on.

Be safe all.[/QUOTE]

Hi,

First time in sgh, here is a report.

Had exactly the same experience yesterday. Went to bodi in at 1pm, already kinda busy. Huge selection of around 35 girls. It would have take me 15mn to be able to choose! I chose number 513, a real stunner, face like to Chinese women you see in the magazines, like a model but smaller. Same service as Nona described. No way she would allow kissing which is a shame. I find catbath pretty boring as well. Bodi premises are superb but clearly you pay also more because you, ve got more choice. Anyway 513 would not go for a second round (damned) so, frustrated, I thought I would go to sacrosa. Not as clean but still ok! No wet area, which is ok for me. Chose 311, great looking girl, amazing natural C-cup boobies, really impressive. Much better service than 513 at Bodi but still no kissing! WTF! Seems like only the ugliest or less glamourous actually do kiss.

Better value for money at sacrosa (580 rmb before 6pm) vs. Bodi (880 rmb on a Sunday)

Overall ok, not very romantic but at least it's very clean and the girls do care about their health. And I must say these girls are beautiful. Much more than the asian escorts you would find in europe or even japan.

For those interested both those girls did not mind a finger in the arse while being nailed. But no way you can get a-level.

Not making eye contact seems to be a Sacrosa thing. Always has been. Not sure why.

Drinks like Cola and tea are free. Not sure about the beer.

[QUOTE=Nona; 1261593]Fellow mongers,

Thanks for all the great info on the forums. On a trip to Shanghai currently and did my fair share of work reading the forums to figure out various places to check out. Yesterday (Saturday) afternoon, took a Taxi to Sarcosa. After multiple searches on this forum, found a good post that gave specific directions (close to a mall that has kfc / pizza hut / Hagen Daz). Got the hotel front desk to write down the address for me in Chinese and showed it to the Taxi driver. After getting dropped off in front of the mall, found the place and I'm pretty sure without the forum post, I would never have found it! No signs in front and there are a couple of mean looking Chinese security guard types sitting in front. Just walked in straight and took the elevator to the 5th floor. This was around 4. 30 pm Was directed to a common room where I stripped down and put my clothes in the locker. Guy then gives me a wrist band that has the number of the locker. Then asked to shower. Common showers similar to gyms in the USA. After that, was given a robe, taken to a small room and asked to wait. TV was on and it was a pretty old room with stale cigarette smoke smell. Guy asks me what do I want to drink and having read about all the scams, for a moment, I felt I had walked into something else here and was going to be fleeced. Told him, just a glass of water and he said fine. Got back with it in a couple of minutes. No worries. After about 15 minutes, was led out to another room where there were about 6 or 7 girls in the lineup. All of them said the ni-haos but did not make eye contact. Weird. Everyone just looking away. I was hoping one of them would smile and make some attempt at contact. Took a couple of mins and then picked one out who had slightly bigger boobs than the rest. Decent sized body. Would guess she was either in her late 20s or early thirties. I think her number was either 308 or 508. She then took me to another room which had a bed and big mirror on the side of the wall. Then left and said will be back in a few mins. I don't speak Chinese and she spoke a bit of english. Enough to communicate. After a while she comes back with a bag that has a bunch of things. Tissues, water bottles, cover etc. She makes some small talk and then helps to undress me, takes off her dress and then begins a light so so massage. I'm not really feeling a connection here. Try some jokes to break the ice and she joins in too. Pretends to snore and sleep and I play along with her massaging her and playing with her boobs and ass. Then she gets down to giving a BBBJ. I've had much better. Funny thing was that every 2 mins, she's stop, gargle some water, spit it out and then back to BBBJ. After some of this, I take over, put her on her back and then dive in for some DATY. Typical Chinese unshaven pussy. Clean and fresh. I go at DATY (my favorite) for about 15 mins. She seems to enjoy it but you never know. After that, on comes the cover and we do multiple positions. She is quite tight and that was good. After about 15-20 mins, we finish. Then a few mins to relax and then dress up. Another thing to note was that she got her own timer and started it from the moment we undressed. At the end of the session, it showed 70 mins. Then she makes a call to the front desk and gives me the phone. I say o. K on the phone. Then we step out. She gives me a cigarette lighter with the number of sarcosa on it. Asks me to call the next day and ask for her number. We say our good byes. I step out to the showers again. Take one and then dress up. Go to the front desk and the charge is 580 RMB. Was pleasantly surprised since I was expecting around 700. Step out, hail a cab and back to my hotel. Overall, I would say it was a good experience for the price but may not repeat. The whole thing felt a bit mechanical since there was really no connection. Decided to check out Bodi the next day. That will be another TR.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Fritobugger; 1261901]Not making eye contact seems to be a Sacrosa thing. Always has been. Not sure why.

Drinks like Cola and tea are free. Not sure about the beer.[/QUOTE]In the waiting room, they had a menu. Listed some of the drinks but don't recall seeing a price list. They had a lot of noodles and such on the list too. Thought crossed my mind as to who would want to fill up your stomach with noodles before going to have a go at a Sarcosa beauty. Oh well.

After the warm ups as Sarcosa and Bodi, finally got to hit Manhattan on Sunday nite. Given that I had to be at work by 10 on Monday, wanted to see if I could meet and get a lady back to the room by 12 for a few hours of fun and then a quick nap. Taxi ride from the Intercontinental to Manhattan was pretty quick. Not much traffic. Reached there by 10. 15 pmthe drive towards the end was thru a few twisty alleyways and at one point I was wondering if this was the right place. I was expecting a pretty well lit street and shops / bars and such and when the driver finally stopped, it was almost in sort of a quiet residential area. He then pointed across the street and there it was. Walked in and the place wasn't too crowded. Bunch of viets standing around. Foot tapping to the music. Bunch of dudes sitting. Seemed pretty low key. I had read reports in the forum of the place being so crowded and so this was sort of something I did not expect. Anyways, sat at the bar, ordered a corona (45 rmb) and took in the scene. The lighting was dim and unless the girl is in a slightly better lit area, it's hard to make out features and such. This so totally reminded me of pick up bars in Tijuana. Except that the music was less louder. After eyeing a few, went a picked up a seat towards the back. After a while, a viet girl comes next to me and says Hi. We clink glasses and say cheers. Starts the usual. Where you from? I smile and make polite conversation. She tries hard to continue the conversation and I just listed. Still looking around. Most of the girls seem to be atleast in their thirties. Saw a couple that looked really old. All the while, the viet is chatting with me. I'm also watching the clock since I want to be back as soon as possible with some company. Wish it was not Sunday nite so that I could have stayed much longer but after a bit, took a good luck at my viety. Her name was April. She had such a thick accent that I found it hard to understand her. She gives me the sell. I want to make you happy tonite. I suck good. So I ask her how much for long time? She quotes 3000. I smile. She asks me how much will I pay. I thought about starting at 800 but given my ticking clock, wanted to see if I can get a better shot at closing the deal. Quoted 1000. She countered with 2000. I said sorry. Then she says. Money no problem, I like you. Then I say lets do 1200. She's said fine. I told her I want to boom boom as many times as I want and I want her to stay till 7. 00. She says ok. We step out. More folks are coming in at this time. It's about 10. 45. Right outside, she tells me "you buy condom" and there; s a guy selling a pack for 50 rmb. I get one, get into the taxi and by 11. 15 we are back in the hotel. No problem coming up. She gets in and we go take a bath. About 5 feet in height. Maybe 90 to 100 pounds. Fair skin. Shoulder length curly hair. Big beautiful eyes. Be cup tits. Soft with fairly long nips. We play in the shower a bit and she does some really good DFK. Then wipe up and onto the bed where we get into lot of cuddling, dfk, and then she nibbles and licks all over ultimately ending in a fantastic BBBJ. After a while, I return the favor and have a nice long DATY. She's not really enjoying this but not complaining too. Then on went the cover and I went in. She was amazingly tight and equisite. Long pounding in multiple positions and a great climax. She then showers and get back in. We cuddle for a bit, talk a bit and I find myself up again. Get on top of her for a face fuck and then some more DATY followed by missionary and then to doggy where I pound her hard for another great finish. It's about 1. 30 a. M now and she says "can I go". At this point, exhaustion has started to kick in for me and I say okay she dressed up quickly. I'm pretty sure she's headed back to manhattan. She then asks me for taxi money. I try telling her that I'm cutting her short from a LT session and so no taxi money but she goes on and on and on. I just need to sleep at this time and hand her a 100Rmb note and then she leaves happily. And then I am off to la la land. In summary, a better encounter in bed than bodi and sarcosa. I guess you get what you pay for. I wish I had more time in hand to wait out and talk to few more girls and make a selection much later. Maybe another day. The forum is right. If all else fails, head to manhattan. You're sure to get a honey. Provided you put down the money.

I have had a very good foot and body massage from a spa on Shanxi Road. It is called Apsara Spa and has a Cambodian theme. Here is a link to their website:

[url]http://www.apsara.com.cn/web/index.html[/url]

It is very easy to find and just off of West Nanjing Road. If you go to their website, they have a map. It is right near the Portman and Century Plaza.

Good luck.

AL.

QUOTE=Lost In Shanghai; 1261207]Yu Massage on no. 370 Wuyuan Road near Wukang Road will give you an hour or more of really great non-sexual massage for less than 300 rmb. Zen Massage at 210 Wuyuan near Wulumuqi similar, and has regular 2-person specials. Don't know how big your bank is, but prices at theseplaces are less than half of hotel spas.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Fritobugger; 1261901]Not making eye contact seems to be a Sacrosa thing. Always has been. Not sure why.

Drinks like Cola and tea are free. Not sure about the beer.[/QUOTE]Since the Sacrosa line up is directly in front of you (1-2 meters away) and there is no one way glass in between (or anything else) , perhaps the management has instructed the girls to look away from the customer so as not to make him feel uncomfortable. In places with a one way window screen this is obviously not needed and the girls can look directly at you without seeing you. I might be wrong but I can not think of something else and indeed agree that at Sacrosa the girls always look away, unless a good looking hunk stands in front of them, which more or less describes my last visits LOL. Wink, wink.

Cheers

Went twice in this place with a big "oil massage" sign, located 191 nandan lu (cross with caoxi lu) Not far from marriott courtyard hongqiao lu (500m).

The place is not luxurious but decent. Masseuses look great (7-9). Tried #98 and #92.

98 cost 228 (base rate for massage, HJ and light touching) + 100 tip for access to downstairs and boobies. Overall nice and she even kept pushing my head onto her pussy, and wanted me to do some DATY, but not my thing. She was a bit upset for 2mn.

Look 8, body 7.

92 cost 228 + 72 tip because she was nice and friendly. Look 7, body 8. The best HJ and prostate massage I've ever received. If gave more pleasure than experiences at Bodi or Sacrosa. But that's because I realize that only the unexpected brings that excitement. At high end saunas, expectations are very high and are hardly matched.

Anyway good place for those just wanting a good relief for an overall decent price.

Enjoy

So I had a massage at lunch at a bbs type place. The sort of in and out HJ parlor. When I left and was waiting for a taxi I was flagged down by a guy who started pointing at where I'd come from. At first I thought he was trying to get a taxi that pulled up but soon enough I realized he was talking about the massage place. He was then joined by two other guys. All wearing plain clothes. My Chinese is not great but I start to understand they are telling me they are police. I act a little bit like 'what's the problem? I just had a shoulder massage'. They did the hand signal for sex and I tried explaining that bbs doesn't do that. I just had a massage. Then he talks about money. I didn't know what he meant so I said I paid the massage girl 100rmb. So he then asks me to give him 100 rmb. I ask him to show me a badge which he does. Have no idea if its real or not. I was kinda scared but also knew I wasn't caught in the act doing anything and what I had done was only a HJ so I wasn't overly worried. But at the same time not knowing what could potentially unfold. I just wanted to get away. I paid him 100 rmb and then his partner also wanted 100rmb. Fuckit I just pay and get on my way. Cops and crooks look alike in China and I didn't want any trouble. One thing I did understand is he said I should visit a large sauna place and not smaller place. That gave him some credibility he was a cop but who knows. Beware.

Damage all up 300 rmb. 100 for massage and HJ and 200 for gangsters outside.

[QUOTE=Dragon D;1261575]One guy I know went and as he was getting the BJ two others came to grab his coat and wallet and he was caught with his pants down. Unlucky for the ladies he was an ex-bouncer. Drunk as he was he managed to give them what they had coming and got away with scratch marks. Not everyone can be so lucky.[/QUOTE]He's lucky that his the wasn't bitten off. LOL.

Hi Guys,

I have spent the last few weeks in Shenzhen and now work has asked me to got to both Beijing and Shanghai next month.

In Shenzhen I have met a couple of girls on [url]www.casualencounterschina.com[/url] And have had a trip to Changping (highly recommended)

Has anyone used the above site in Shanghai? Can you suggest other sites or venues?

Here are some pictures of girls I have been able to meet in Shenzhen. I have posted some other pics in the Beijing forum.

I appreciate any help you can give me as it will be my first time to Shanghai.

[QUOTE=White Dragon;1262336]So I had a massage at lunch at a bbs type place. The sort of in and out HJ parlor. When I left and was waiting for a taxi I was flagged down by a guy who started pointing at where I'd come from. At first I thought he was trying to get a taxi that pulled up but soon enough I realized he was talking about the massage place. He was then joined by two other guys. All wearing plain clothes. .[/QUOTE]Would be a great help if you mentioned the location. Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Lost In Shanghai;1262449]Would be a great help if you mentioned the location. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]I don't know the exact street but it was parallel with wuzhong Lu and not far from yoshiwara sauna. Puxi district.

[QUOTE=ShenzhenSimon; 1262350]Hi Guys,

I have spent the last few weeks in Shenzhen and now work has asked me to got to both Beijing and Shanghai next month.

In Shenzhen I have met a couple of girls on.

[url]www.casualencounterschina.com[/url]

And have had a trip to Changping (highly recommended)

Has anyone used the above site in Shanghai? Can you suggest other sites or venues?

Here are some pictures of girls I have been able to meet in Shenzhen. I have posted some other pics in the Beijing forum.

I appreciate any help you can give me as it will be my first time to Shanghai.[/QUOTE]There are more outcall services in Beijing, not as many in Shanghai. I have had a couple of good experiences from girls on this site.

[url]unforgettableshanghai.blog.com[/url]

MingMing is a good one if you are looking for knockers. But LanLan is my favorite especially after a couple of encounters. Cute girl with very satisfying service. Price is a bit high at 1000 plus cab, but for me I like the privacy of my hotel.

[QUOTE=timtam74;1260524]Bro, have the cursor pointed at the QQ Gril pic, then right click, click on "Open Qzone". A new IE screen will appear, look for this wording "&30456; &20876;" and click on it. Once in, click on the LOCK folder, a password screen will appear. You should know what to do next. Cheers![/QUOTE]It does not work like this in the QQ International version.

In order to see the qzone of the QQ contact you have to manually open the following url: qqnumber. Qzone. Com and then click on the albums. You can also use the direct url to the albums user. Qzone. Qq. Com / QQNUMBER#app=4.

Then click on the album with a lock on it and write the password.

Regards

[QUOTE=Landa; 1262494]It does not work like this in the QQ International version.

In order to see the qzone of the QQ contact you have to manually open the following url: qqnumber. Qzone. Com and then click on the albums. You can also use the direct url to the albums user. Qzone. Qq. Com / QQNUMBER#app=4.

Then click on the album with a lock on it and write the password.

Regards[/QUOTE]I have the QQ International version, just right click on the girl's icon and you will see a link to her Qzone.

Also have a look at the profile, sometime they post links to other pic sites of theirs is blocked on Qzone.

I still haven't tried meeting up with a QQ girl though.

Would be nice if there was a way we could share laowai friendly QQ numbers

[QUOTE=White Dragon; 1262336]So I had a massage at lunch at a bbs type place. The sort of in and out HJ parlor. When I left and was waiting for a taxi I was flagged down by a guy who started pointing at where I'd come from. At first I thought he was trying to get a taxi that pulled up but soon enough I realized he was talking about the massage place. He was then joined by two other guys. All wearing plain clothes. My Chinese is not great but I start to understand they are telling me they are police. I act a little bit like 'what's the problem? I just had a shoulder massage'. They did the hand signal for sex and I tried explaining that bbs doesn't do that. I just had a massage. Then he talks about money. I didn't know what he meant so I said I paid the massage girl 100rmb. So he then asks me to give him 100 rmb. I ask him to show me a badge which he does. Have no idea if its real or not. I was kinda scared but also knew I wasn't caught in the act doing anything and what I had done was only a HJ so I wasn't overly worried. But at the same time not knowing what could potentially unfold. I just wanted to get away. I paid him 100 rmb and then his partner also wanted 100rmb. Fuckit I just pay and get on my way. Cops and crooks look alike in China and I didn't want any trouble. One thing I did understand is he said I should visit a large sauna place and not smaller place. That gave him some credibility he was a cop but who knows. Beware.

Damage all up 300 rmb. 100 for massage and HJ and 200 for gangsters outside.[/QUOTE]Where is this place, so we can all avoid the area.

Hi all.

I am in a bit of a quandry. I am trying to host a party for a fellow monger that has decided to "take the marriage plunge". Without debating the merits of such action, I want to ask a favor. I haven't been to a KTV in Shanghai in a number of years. I am VERY familiar with the CP versions, but can't arrange to have everyone come to CP for the party. If someone on the board has some info on a good KTV within a hour of Shanghai (driving) with nice girls that are willing to go home, I would appreciate the reference. If you have the number of a manager to book the room even better.

Thanks in advance for the info and of course you are welcome to reply via PM!

Sky

[QUOTE=Anonymous All; 1262475]There are more outcall services in Beijing, not as many in Shanghai. I have had a couple of good experiences from girls on this site.

[url]unforgettableshanghai.blog.com[/url]

MingMing is a good one if you are looking for knockers. But LanLan is my favorite especially after a couple of encounters. Cute girl with very satisfying service. Price is a bit high at 1000 plus cab, but for me I like the privacy of my hotel.[/QUOTE]Hi Anonymous All,

Thanks for the link and girl suggestion.

I also prefer the privacy of a hotel room.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Anonymous All; 1262475]There are more outcall services in Beijing, not as many in Shanghai. I have had a couple of good experiences from girls on this site.

[url]unforgettableshanghai.blog.com[/url]

MingMing is a good one if you are looking for knockers. But LanLan is my favorite especially after a couple of encounters. Cute girl with very satisfying service. Price is a bit high at 1000 plus cab, but for me I like the privacy of my hotel.[/QUOTE]Anonymous,

Hi. Can you please provide more details on the kind of service on offer from these girls? Does it include DFK and multiple pops for short time too? How long is really the short time?

Thanks

Hi there,

Damn, I can read many of you mongers don't hesitate to go DATY.

Are you really sure it is a good idea? Personally, I really loooooooooove to do that, but with the persons I know quite well.

I don't mean to judge anyone, just to put some warning for new mongers who might think they can do whatever they want here and still feel safe.

There are not just few stories of scams, and warnings are also given. I do believe there are also good practice for mongering and for sex acts. Important to be careful. You don't know the girl, and worse, you don't the guys who came before you!

Besides my remark, any of you can lead me to very good soapy massage places?

I've read here some comments about different places where you can have soapy massage (SiYuan, Bodi. 999, Hai Lang Sea Waves, Yoshiwara and Xing He) but very few detailed comments about the soapy thing. Most of you mongers seems to pass on this, and prefer a straight fuck. I'd really wish to find a very good, lasting, sweet and very "blowjob" related soapy massage.

Any good advise is more than welcome!

Mr U

[QUOTE=AsianLover; 1262069]I have had a very good foot and body massage from a spa on Shanxi Road. It is called Apsara Spa and has a Cambodian theme. Here is a link to their website:

[url]http://www.apsara.com.cn/web/index.html[/url]

It is very easy to find and just off of West Nanjing Road. If you go to their website, they have a map. It is right near the Portman and Century Plaza.

Good luck.

AL.[/QUOTE]And what is it they actually offer there?

Thanks

[QUOTE=White Dragon;1262336]I was kinda scared but also knew I wasn't caught in the act doing anything and what I had done was only a HJ so I wasn't overly worried. But at the same time not knowing what could potentially unfold. I just wanted to get away. I paid him 100 rmb and then his partner also wanted 100rmb. Fuckit I just pay and get on my way. Cops and crooks look alike in China and I didn't want any trouble.[/QUOTE]I think you did the right thing. I would've done the same under those circumstances. Better lose a few hundred rmb than risk getting yourself in any kind of trouble, especially since you are a outnumbered foreigner and don't speak the language.

[QUOTE=Mister Untitled; 1262798]Hi there,

Damn, I can read many of you mongers don't hesitate to go DATY.

Are you really sure it is a good idea? Personally, I really loooooooooove to do that, but with the persons I know quite well.

I don't mean to judge anyone, just to put some warning for new mongers who might think they can do whatever they want here and still feel safe.

There are not just few stories of scams, and warnings are also given. I do believe there are also good practice for mongering and for sex acts. Important to be careful. You don't know the girl, and worse, you don't the guys who came before you!

Besides my remark, any of you can lead me to very good soapy massage places?

I've read here some comments about different places where you can have soapy massage (SiYuan, Bodi. 999, Hai Lang Sea Waves, Yoshiwara and Xing He) but very few detailed comments about the soapy thing. Most of you mongers seems to pass on this, and prefer a straight fuck. I'd really wish to find a very good, lasting, sweet and very "blowjob" related soapy massage.

Any good advise is more than welcome!

Mr U[/QUOTE]Well your question ultimately depends on the girl, so I can't say for sure.

But you can even ask for a straight fuck on the soapy massage pad.

Personally I don't think it is a good idea, the JAV films make it look a lot hotter than it really is.

With lots of lube / soap / water on a rubbery / faux leather bed means you and the girl may have trouble with traction, so I don't think that is an ideal environment for pounding.

Of course she could always ride you till you are satisfied.

[QUOTE=Carage; 1262938]Well your question ultimately depends on the girl, so I can't say for sure.

But you can even ask for a straight fuck on the soapy massage pad.

Personally I don't think it is a good idea, the JAV films make it look a lot hotter than it really is.

With lots of lube / soap / water on a rubbery / faux leather bed means you and the girl may have trouble with traction, so I don't think that is an ideal environment for pounding.

Of course she could always ride you till you are satisfied.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your comments, but I have to admit I don't want to fuck the gal, just wants to get blowjobs, possibly with CIM for few times, prostrate massage, want to the girl to use all possible parts of her body to massage me during the soapy massage session.

First of all nobody asked your opinion about DATY. It provides no benefit to the forum so keep it to yourself or one of the Safe Sex forums.

Regarding soapy, it depends on the girl. At Siyuan the best performers used to have red numbers but the selection there is kind of slim.

I prefer Bodi simply because of the large selection of girls. Otherwise both places are identical though Siyuan is better located for subway travel and easier for a taxi to find. Both are in Pudong. I have no suggestions for Puxi.

[QUOTE=Mister Untitled; 1262798]Hi there,

Damn, I can read many of you mongers don't hesitate to go DATY.

Are you really sure it is a good idea? Personally, I really loooooooooove to do that, but with the persons I know quite well.

I don't mean to judge anyone, just to put some warning for new mongers who might think they can do whatever they want here and still feel safe.

There are not just few stories of scams, and warnings are also given. I do believe there are also good practice for mongering and for sex acts. Important to be careful. You don't know the girl, and worse, you don't the guys who came before you!

Besides my remark, any of you can lead me to very good soapy massage places?

I've read here some comments about different places where you can have soapy massage (SiYuan, Bodi. 999, Hai Lang Sea Waves, Yoshiwara and Xing He) but very few detailed comments about the soapy thing. Most of you mongers seems to pass on this, and prefer a straight fuck. I'd really wish to find a very good, lasting, sweet and very "blowjob" related soapy massage.

Any good advise is more than welcome!

Mr U[/QUOTE]

Let's pretend money is not an issue, any suggestions for a 'high class' sauna place in Shanghai with service to match the price? Did my reading but still haven't found that.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Nona; 1262792]Anonymous,

Hi. Can you please provide more details on the kind of service on offer from these girls? Does it include DFK and multiple pops for short time too? How long is really the short time?

Thanks[/QUOTE]It really depends on what you ask for. If no specific requests, then typical menu is BJ before the main course. Short time is one shot, usually 1 hour. But if you get to know the girl there's usually not a big deal even goes beyond the hour. If there are specific requests, I find Sophia is fairly accomodating if you make your requests clear, like massage, DFK, multiple pops, etc. Her english isn't perfect, but enough to know what you want and is pretty friendly on the phone. Usually she sends me text afterwards and asks how the service was. In that regards I think she tries hard to please her customer base. Anyways if you want some specific, you can reach Sophia at 13488676516 and let her know what you seek.

Good hunting.

[QUOTE=Nona; 1262792]Anonymous,

Hi. Can you please provide more details on the kind of service on offer from these girls? Does it include DFK and multiple pops for short time too? How long is really the short time?

Thanks[/QUOTE]If there are no special requests, typical menu is BJ followed by the main course. Short time is one pop, one hour. But if you get to know the girl better then it's no big deal even if you go over the hour. Usually if there's someone I like, I would request multiple times and it's almost always better 2nd and 3rd time around. Anyway if you do have something specific you want, you can call up Sophia and tell her exactly what you seek like massage, DFK, multiple pops, etc. Her English isn't perfect, but she knows enough to understand what you want and has a friendly voice on the phone. She usually texts me afterwards and asks how the service was – in that regard I think she tries hard to please her customer base. Anyways if there's something you fancy, you can call her up at 13488676516 and the number is on her unforgettableshanghai blog as well. Nothing wrong with asking. Good luck.

They are a legit spa and offer typical spa services. The menu is posted on-line. There are no extras here. If you read the earlier posts, the person was asking for a legit place that gave good service.

AL.

[QUOTE=Nothiel; 1262911]And what is it they actually offer there?

Thanks[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nothiel; 1263095]Let's pretend money is not an issue, any suggestions for a 'high class' sauna place in Shanghai with service to match the price? Did my reading but still haven't found that.

Thanks[/QUOTE]Newbie is no excuse. Read the posts, it's pretty simple to fiqure out what your asking in a very short time. Speanding time reading all the valuable posts will increase your knowledge significantly and you will then not need to ask such questions that have already been asked and answered time and time again

[QUOTE=AsianLover; 1263160]They are a legit spa and offer typical spa services. The menu is posted on-line. There are no extras here. If you read the earlier posts, the person was asking for a legit place that gave good service.

AL.[/QUOTE]I went to Aspara Spa just last night and had a fantastic Legit massage.

Thanks for the tip on this place will return for sure.

Does anyone know where I could pick up some Eastern Europe / African girls in Shanghai? Kinda want to change for a while.

Thanks a lot

[QUOTE=ExpatGuy1;1263322]Newbie is no excuse. Read the posts, it's pretty simple to fiqure out what your asking in a very short time. Speanding time reading all the valuable posts will increase your knowledge significantly and you will then not need to ask such questions that have already been asked and answered time and time again[/QUOTE]WOW, that is saying a lot for someone who has only a few posts to his credit. This is getting to be a really tough crowd.

[QUOTE=Sky Ryder;1263440]WOW, that is saying a lot for someone who has only a few posts to his credit. This is getting to be a really tough crowd.[/QUOTE]LOL. Want to be the tough guy.

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[QUOTE=AsianLover; 1263160]They are a legit spa and offer typical spa services. The menu is posted on-line. There are no extras here. If you read the earlier posts, the person was asking for a legit place that gave good service.

AL.[/QUOTE]Thank you!

[QUOTE=Shaun Palmer; 1263431]Does anyone know where I could pick up some Eastern Europe / African girls in Shanghai? Kinda want to change for a while.

Thanks a lot[/QUOTE]Hi Shaun,

You have a good chance to find some (overpriced = they will ask for 5000 per night, but you can negotiate) south american and Russian working girls in bar rouge (at the bund) , for african and Russian girls, you also can be lucky in the dragon club.

[QUOTE=Shaun Palmer; 1263431]Does anyone know where I could pick up some Eastern Europe / African girls in Shanghai? Kinda want to change for a while.

Thanks a lot[/QUOTE]Xin Tian Di now has African girls every night. Yes Bar Rouge for Ruskies. Usually couple of Russians in Luna. Brown Sugar has some also if you like paying for expensive drinks.

Yes Bar Rouge has reasonable supply. But 5K way over the top. Prices much cheaper than that. Plenty African girls will take 1K ST / Russians 1. 5K ST. LT depends on your neg skills and general skill.

Have also had luck in Zapatas, Manhattan and Judys for black / non Asian girls. Just get out and about and you will find them.

[QUOTE=Sky Ryder;1263440]WOW, that is saying a lot for someone who has only a few posts to his credit. This is getting to be a really tough crowd.[/QUOTE]Oh, Is that right, is there a mininum number of posts you have to acheive before you point out the extremely obvious?

Would appreciate some feedback. I returned to Shanghai after 3 years and the scene somehow changed a lot. I find it difficult to locate BBS in Pudong. 3 years ago there have been plenty in each area. Now most of them are gone or turned to some MP. But I'm not sure if these MP offer the same service for the same rates. Where are the BBS in Pudong now?

Thanks for any information.

[QUOTE=Gaist Asia; 1263999]Would appreciate some feedback. I returned to Shanghai after 3 years and the scene somehow changed a lot. I find it difficult to locate BBS in Pudong. 3 years ago there have been plenty in each area. Now most of them are gone or turned to some MP. But I'm not sure if these MP offer the same service for the same rates. Where are the BBS in Pudong now?

Thanks for any information.[/QUOTE]If youscroll back a few pages, ie RTFF you will find quite some references to BBS in Pudong, of different types and levels

Visited Animate massage parlor in Puxi recently. Never been reported here, so I thought I would check it out. It is licated near the Shanghai hotel at 425 Wulumuqi Road (N). They listed oil massages at 180 and 380. I was hopeful the 380 would be more than your average oil massage. Given prices in the area, it should have been either a really great oil massage by a skilled masseuse or included lots of extra features. Turned out to be a good, but not great, very long massage, but no extras included.

Massage girl dressed in slacks and a knit top. Didn't bother with any roaming. When she offered HE for 200 I refused. At 380, should have been included.

[QUOTE=Nothiel; 1263095]Let's pretend money is not an issue, any suggestions for a 'high class' sauna place in Shanghai with service to match the price? Did my reading but still haven't found that.

Thanks[/QUOTE]Actuaasly I did a lot of RTFF before I visited Shanghai. Based on my research, the three best high-end places seemed to be HaiLang, HeTing and Sacrosa, with Bodi and Siyuan (MerryLin Hotel) not far behind.

I only had enough cash for one high-end visit, so I ended up picking HaiLang as I was intrigued by the "red rope" feature and Hailang appeared to be the only place left where that service was consistently offered. I had a great time at HaiLang around two weeks ago, with #913, for 880 yuan total. Yes, I would return to HaiLang and yes, I would repeat with 913 again. Will write a more complete post soon.

How's the weather in SH-back this week for more fun.

[QUOTE=Marty47;1264514]How's the weather in SH-back this week for more fun.[/QUOTE]Rainny. Around 20.

Date:2012-03-29.

Number of Technician:20. 50.

Service Type: ISO.

Price:780 (W / O Nuru) /880 (W / T Nuru)

Security: 5 Star.

Decoration: 5 Star.

Days before, I just saw mavipykds's review, would like to have a try. I used to go Dongseng and Batia, but now Batia is closed.

Just like you guys described, it's in the basement, a little humid. I called penny and made reservation of Technician 922. , young and tender. Photos are uploaded.

Take a look.

[QUOTE=Marty47;1264514]How's the weather in SH-back this week for more fun.[/QUOTE]Try weather. Com

2 Day's before This girls is from ShenZhen. So not good at mandarin. Cantonese and English is OK.

To be gentle, before I left my place, I called her to ask should I need to bring some food for her. She told me that she doesn't eat meat and flour, so I bought he some juice. Remember this tip is important to setup relationship with those professional girls who will offer you a better service.

Because of the guy before me was late, so I have to wait in my car for about 20 minutes at late night. So annoying, hope you guys be on time next time. When Chu Chu opened her door, it seemed that she looked more pretty than that was on the picture. After shower, we went to the bed and the show was started. I have to admire her smile and eye contact during service, it was so intoxicating. Her BJ skill is so good, sluty tongue stiring that I almost lost my control. Stoped her immediatly and striked back to her. Sucking her big white soft rabbits. After 50 minutes fighting, the world regained peace. After all, I should say it's a happy journey.

Photo are uploaded.

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman; 1264361]Actually I did a lot of RTFF before I visited Shanghai. Based on my research, the three best high-end places seemed to be HaiLang, HeTing and Sacrosa, with Bodi and Siyuan (MerryLin Hotel) not far behind.

I only had enough cash for one high-end visit, so I ended up picking HaiLang as I was intrigued by the "red rope" feature and Hailang appeared to be the only place left where that service was consistently offered. I had a great time at HaiLang around two weeks ago, with #913, for 880 yuan total. Yes, I would return to HaiLang and yes, I would repeat with 913 again. Will write a more complete post soon.[/QUOTE]I have a long report but will split it into 2 posts:

As mentioned in my previous post, from RTFF it seemed that the top 3 saunas were Hailang, Heting and Sacrosa, followed closely by Bodi and Siyuan (inside MerryLin Hotel). I choose Hailang based on the excellent reviews and also because I wanted to experience the 'red rope' and Hailang is one of the few places that still offers that service.

[B]DIRECTIONS:[/B]

Hailang is at Zhong Shan Xi Lu 1277.

中山西路1277号海螺大厦.

If the forum doesn't show the chinese address, just google it (Hailang Sauna).
Or, print out the attached scan of their business card.

The easiest way may be to take the metro to Shanghai indoor stadium via Metro Line 1, then follow the signs to the exit for Zhong Shan Xi Lu (I think it's either Exit A or Exit 1).

Once you reach street level, walk straight and bear to the right onto Zhong Shan Xi Lu. Flag down a taxi and ask them to bring you to 1277. I suppose you could walk, but it's a long walk, and the taxi only cost 14 yuan. Note: you'll reach street level at the 2600 block, and once you reach the 1500 block, the numbers seem to drop quickly, so make sure your cab is in the right-hand lane after 1500.

As you face the 1277 building, you will notice a large, wide driveway to the right of the building, which leads to a parking lot. Walk down the driveway and turn left into a narrower alley, walk 20m and you will hit the entrance on the right. All signs were Chinese-only, so print the business card!

As mentioned in my previous post, from RTFF I decided to choose Hailang Sauna as my one high-priced spa visit. I chose Hailang based on the excellent reviews and also because I wanted to experience the 'red rope' and Hailang is one of the few places that still offers that service.

My visit was very similar to the other posts written about this place. When I arrived at the front desk, a man wearing a suit who spoke excellent English greeted me and asked me if I wanted a massage. I said yes and that I wanted the 'red rope', he made a twirling motion with his hand and said 'yes. ' I changed out of my clothes in the locker room into cotton shorts and robe, then my stuff was put into the locker and the door double-locked, with my keeping one of the keys that was on a bracelet. I locked everything into the locker, including my wallet, cell phone, etc.

[B]Note:[/B] For my next visit, I'll be bringing my own condoms, so I will put those in the robe pocket, but that's it.

The locker room attendant asked if I wanted to take a shower but I said no, I'll shower in the room with the girl. I was escorted upstairs and sat in a waiting room for 10 minutes, drinking water and watching TV. Then I was led to the fishbowl, which is a one-way window (you can see the girls, they can't see you). At least 25 girls lined up. I zeroed in on the two girls who had the prettiest faces, #913 and 965, but couldn't decide which one to pick.

The attendant then said, if you can't choose, I recommend #970, very good massage. I looked at 970 and thought that she looked a little old, so I said I have two choices, '#965. ' and he immediately made a face, then I continued '. And 913' and he brightened up and said 'yes. 913, good massage. ' So he called 913's number over the loudspeaker and out the door she came.

My session with #913 was a lot of fun, luckily we seemed to hit it off with each other, and she was friendly, smiling and bubbly (and highly-skilled) the entire session. I realize that these girls are trained actresses, but still she seemed to enjoy her work throughout the session and it was a near-GFE experience. Maybe I was her first or second customer of the day? (I was there around 5 pm on a Sunday). She did speak a bit of English, which made things easier. Her breasts were pretty small, definitely a natural A-cup, but her pretty face and nice long legs made up for it, and she had a slightly trimmed Bush that tasted fresh and clean. My guess is that she is 23-25 years old.

The session followed the usual script – getting washed in the chair in the shower room, with the obligatory 'oh my God' exclamation and smile when she saw my Caucasian-sized erection, then the soapy massage on the bubble mat. Then she rinsed and dried me off, then off to the bedroom, where I lay down on my stomach and she gave me a fun cat bath followed by some excellent Asian / rimming. After the flip, she gave me an excellent BBBJ, then set-up the red rope apparatus. She said that she didn't particularly like doing the red rope but went ahead and did it anyway. Once up there, she did not twirl, but even so, her oral service while she was hanging upside down was incredible, and it was all I could do to keep from shooting my load into her mouth.

Back down to earth, where she stretched out next to me and hugged me for a few minutes while she regained her balance. She then pulled out a condom, but I asked for some DATY, and she said ok. After a couple of minutes that included some fake moans she said ok, that's enough, but I insisted on continuing, and this time I received a definite reaction from her, and she may have even reached orgasm. Then, on with the undersized condom and into her for the grand finish. Despite her 'oh my god you're so big' proclamations earlier, I was able to fit into her, though at this point I didn't last long. Unfortunately the condom was really tight; as mentioned above, next time I'll bring my own.

We then cuddled for a few minutes, then went to the shower room to rinse off. While I got dressed, she made a phone call, then handed the phone to me, and a female voice asked in English if my massage was good or not. I told the truth, which was 'yes, very good massage' and hung up (evidently all of the high-end saunas do this post-evaluation, and the girl may get into trouble if the guy says, no, not good). The girl helped me get dressed and continue to smile and act bubbly, pointing out her #913 badge that was on her skirt at least two or three times. I wasn't sure if she was hustling for a tip or not, but evidently the girls do this not for a tip, but with the hopes that you'll ask for them next time.

At the front desk I paid 880 yuan, no mention of 'did you want to leave an extra tip for the girl? ' which I've been asked at the high-end saunas in Jakarta, Indonesia. I asked the guy in the suit to write down 'metro' in Chinese characters on a piece of paper, then went outside, flagged down a taxi, and was brought to the Metro stop just north of the Shanghai indoor stadium stop, on the same #1 line.

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In summary:

Would I return? Yes, definitely.

Would I pick #913 again? Yes, if I'm able to return in the next few months, when she's likely to still remember me (IMHO, second time visits are always better than first-time visits with any girl at any spa anywhere in the world).

Would I try a two-girl session? Not sure, as the price is fairly high in comparison with a BBS or a Jakarta spa, and my session with #913 was fine as is.

Any regrets? Yes, next time I'll bring my own condoms.

Would I Be Willing To Try Other Spas? Also yes, since the next time I'll be in Shanghai might not be until March 2013, then I may be willing to try Heting or Siyuan or another place that's closer to a Metro stop.

A few other thoughts:

- I feel bad for those recent posters who had less than a great experience at one of the high-end spas. While they are expensive in comparison with Indonesia, at USA $150 they are cheaper than any comparable service in the USA. And of course YMMV 'your mileage may vary'. While I hit the jackpot with a pretty girl who gave great service, some other guys weren't as fortunate as I was.

- I'm curious about the influence that the guy at the fishbowl has over which girl gets picked. Will #965 ever get any customers? Or does the guy only try to influence foreigners who are obvious first-time visitors to Hailang and whom he wants to make sure will have a good session? Or do some of the girls bribe him to offer their numbers? Intriguing question but I'll probably never know the answer.

- [url]www[/url] Dot shanghai-nightlife-guide dot com / shanghai-sauna / has a lot of good info about Shanghai saunas, but it's not as good as ISG since there are no addresses for the saunas, and its home page appears to be a cover for an overpriced escort service.

- finally, why is good sex so expensive in Shanghai? This question was asked in the 'Cheap Sex in China' board recently, with no real answer, since other than the high-priced places, there aren't many BBS or massage places where one can reliable get a BBBJ or FS. I know that I can't compare Jakarta with Shanghai, but the reality is that one visit to Hailang costs the same as two similar visits to Malioboro, or three full-hour soapy massages at Kartika or three two-pop sessions at Maribaya Spa, all in Jakarta.

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman; 1264682]At the front desk I paid 880 yuan, no mention of 'did you want to leave an extra tip for the girl? ' which I've been asked at the high-end saunas in Jakarta, Indonesia. I asked the guy in the suit to write down 'metro' in Chinese characters on a piece of paper, then went outside, flagged down a taxi, and was brought to the Metro stop just north of the Shanghai indoor stadium stop, on the same #1 line.

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In summary:

A few other thoughts:

- I'm curious about the influence that the guy at the fishbowl has over which girl gets picked. Will #965 ever get any customers? Or does the guy only try to influence foreigners who are obvious first-time visitors to Hailang and whom he wants to make sure will have a good session? Or do some of the girls bribe him to offer their numbers? Intriguing question but I'll probably never know the answer.

- finally, why is good sex so expensive in Shanghai? This question was asked in the 'Cheap Sex in China' board recently, with no real answer, since other than the high-priced places, there aren't many BBS or massage places where one can reliable get a BBBJ or FS. I know that I can't compare Jakarta with Shanghai, but the reality is that one visit to Hailang costs the same as two similar visits to Malioboro, or three full-hour soapy massages at Kartika or three two-pop sessions at Maribaya Spa, all in Jakarta.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report, I think I've been a sauna regular long enough to chime in. Well, strangely, most of the saunas in Shanghai will ask you to leave your money along with your clothing in the locker and do not encourage you to have any monetary interaction with the girl in private, and I have never been asked about tips at any sauna in Shanghai. I assume this has something to do with how the management controls the girls, out of the 880 you paid, the girl typically sees less than 300 of it. The actual amount they receive is performance based.

As for the fishbowl manager's advice, I would tend to ignore it unless you are a regular and he knows you are a regular. But of course he could have misjudged me, because my taste is somewhat different from the local population, but after a few times and he sees a pattern of what I tend to go for, he starts giving advice I would be interested. Otherwise, generally if you see a girl with a number tag in a different color usually means she is top of her class, and she is probably popular for some reason. So when you really don't know anyone or don't have any preference, then those are the ones to go for.

Some girls are just put off by white people, not all girls like to serve white customers largely due to size issues and language barriers.

[QUOTE=Won Hee; 1264604]2 Day's before This girls is from ShenZhen. So not good at mandarin. Cantonese and English is OK.

To be gentle, before I left my place, I called her to ask should I need to bring some food for her. She told me that she doesn't eat meat and flour, so I bought he some juice. Remember this tip is important to setup relationship with those professional girls who will offer you a better service.

Because of the guy before me was late, so I have to wait in my car for about 20 minutes at late night. So annoying, hope you guys be on time next time. When Chu Chu opened her door, it seemed that she looked more pretty than that was on the picture. After shower, we went to the bed and the show was started. I have to admire her smile and eye contact during service, it was so intoxicating. Her BJ skill is so good, sluty tongue stiring that I almost lost my control. Stoped her immediatly and striked back to her. Sucking her big white soft rabbits. After 50 minutes fighting, the world regained peace. After all, I should say it's a happy journey.

Photo are uploaded.[/QUOTE]Any qq number to share? Thanks!

[QUOTE=Nothiel; 1264896]I think is at least funny that some guys here never forget to mention in their reports that their dick is huge. Who asked you weirdo. Save the info for gay. Com I'm sure you love visiting during your lonely, wet nights. [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]

[b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]This report was redacted or deleted to remove sections of the report that were [u]largely antagonistic[/u]. Please read the Forum FAQ and the Forum's Posting Guidelines for more information. [i]Thank You! [/i][/blue][/QUOTE]Not sure whether I should even bother to reply to this personal attack, from a newbie with only 5 posts, none of which have contributed anything of substance to the board.

If you read my report correctly, you'll note that I never said that I had a big dick. I only said that the girl made a predictable comment on it. My experience, and the experience of many of the other Senior Members on the Jakarta board, is that most Asian girls are always commenting on how big their Caucasian customers are, whether it's true or not. Most of the Korean girls working at the AMPs in the US say the same thing. It's hilarious because it's so predictable. Especially in this case, since #913's pussy had no problem handling me.

And the reality is that, in comparison to most Chinese / Asian guys, Caucasian guys do have bigger dicks (as do black men). Many years ago, I learned that the USA Embassies distribute free condoms in developing countries, and the condoms are numbered by size, with #1 (largest) distributed in Sub-Saharan Africa, #2 (medium size) distributed in Latin America, and #3 (smallest) distributed in East and Southest Asia.

I look forward to reading a post from Nothiel that actually has some useful information in it.

[QUOTE=Nothiel; 1264896][blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]

[b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]This report was redacted or deleted to remove sections of the report that were [u]largely antagonistic[/u]. Please read the Forum FAQ and the Forum's Posting Guidelines for more information. [i]Thank You! [/i][/blue][/QUOTE]Having seen that Jackson has left some part of it and removed the "antagonist" par, I can't imagine what was written in it. Already the left piece is quite antagonist.

There was a conversation the other days form bunch of Expat guys who have been in Shanghai a while. Most have had several partners over the years and we were discussing the attributes of the Local (Shanghai and nearby provinces)

It was of general consensus that a large percentage of these women have large elongated (i.e. Pencil Eraser) Nipples.

Just wondering if other mongers out there have come to the same observations?

Yes, you are right! I like to think of them as being like the stogies Clint Eastwood used to munch on in the old spaghetti westerns.

This reminds me of a story that during WWII the Germans or maybe it was the Russians tried to place an order for condoms from a UK distributor. Churchill became aware of the requested and said that it should be filled but with a special run. The largest size condoms would be sent with packing saying "English size: extra small"

Nona. Thanks for your long and detailed reports. We need more members like you. One small suggestion. Use that "Enter / return" key to break your report into reasonable Paragraphs. A block of words is not very easy to read. But keep up the posts!

[QUOTE=Nona; 1261593]Fellow mongers,

Thanks for all the great info on the forums. On a trip to Shanghai currently and did my fair share of work reading the forums to figure out various places to check out. Yesterday (Saturday) afternoon, took a Taxi to Sarcosa. After multiple searches on this forum, found a good post that gave specific directions (close to a mall that has kfc / pizza hut / Hagen Daz). Got the hotel front desk to write down the address for me in Chinese and showed it to the Taxi driver. After getting dropped off in front of the mall, found the place and I'm pretty sure without the forum post, I would never have found it! No signs in front and there are a couple of mean looking Chinese security guard types sitting in front. Just walked in straight and took the elevator to the 5th floor. This was around 4. 30 pm Was directed to a common room where I stripped down and put my clothes in the locker. Guy then gives me a wrist band that has the number of the locker. Then asked to shower. Common showers similar to gyms in the USA. After that, was given a robe, taken to a small room and asked to wait. TV was on and it was a pretty old room with stale cigarette smoke smell. Guy asks me what do I want to drink and having read about all the scams, for a moment, I felt I had walked into something else here and was going to be fleeced. Told him, just a glass of water and he said fine. Got back with it in a couple of minutes. No worries. After about 15 minutes, was led out to another room where there were about 6 or 7 girls in the lineup. All of them said the ni-haos but did not make eye contact. Weird. Everyone just looking away. I was hoping one of them would smile and make some attempt at contact. Took a couple of mins and then picked one out who had slightly bigger boobs than the rest. Decent sized body. Would guess she was either in her late 20s or early thirties. I think her number was either 308 or 508. She then took me to another room which had a bed and big mirror on the side of the wall. Then left and said will be back in a few mins. I don't speak Chinese and she spoke a bit of english. Enough to communicate. After a while she comes back with a bag that has a bunch of things. Tissues, water bottles, cover etc. She makes some small talk and then helps to undress me, takes off her dress and then begins a light so so massage. I'm not really feeling a connection here. Try some jokes to break the ice and she joins in too. Pretends to snore and sleep and I play along with her massaging her and playing with her boobs and ass. Then she gets down to giving a BBBJ. I've had much better. Funny thing was that every 2 mins, she's stop, gargle some water, spit it out and then back to BBBJ. After some of this, I take over, put her on her back and then dive in for some DATY. Typical Chinese unshaven pussy. Clean and fresh. I go at DATY (my favorite) for about 15 mins. She seems to enjoy it but you never know. After that, on comes the cover and we do multiple positions. She is quite tight and that was good. After about 15-20 mins, we finish. Then a few mins to relax and then dress up. Another thing to note was that she got her own timer and started it from the moment we undressed. At the end of the session, it showed 70 mins. Then she makes a call to the front desk and gives me the phone. I say o. K on the phone. Then we step out. She gives me a cigarette lighter with the number of sarcosa on it. Asks me to call the next day and ask for her number. We say our good byes. I step out to the showers again. Take one and then dress up. Go to the front desk and the charge is 580 RMB. Was pleasantly surprised since I was expecting around 700. Step out, hail a cab and back to my hotel. Overall, I would say it was a good experience for the price but may not repeat. The whole thing felt a bit mechanical since there was really no connection. Decided to check out Bodi the next day. That will be another TR.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ShLax; 1265242]There was a conversation the other days form bunch of Expat guys who have been in Shanghai a while. Most have had several partners over the years and we were discussing the attributes of the Local (Shanghai and nearby provinces)

It was of general consensus that a large percentage of these women have large elongated (I. E. Pencil Eraser) Nipples.

Just wondering if other mongers out there have come to the same observations?[/QUOTE]I have noticed that with Vietnamese girls as well. Love it!

[QUOTE=ShLax; 1265242]There was a conversation the other days form bunch of Expat guys who have been in Shanghai a while. Most have had several partners over the years and we were discussing the attributes of the Local (Shanghai and nearby provinces)

It was of general consensus that a large percentage of these women have large elongated (I. E. Pencil Eraser) Nipples.

Just wondering if other mongers out there have come to the same observations?[/QUOTE]My experience is the same with women from Shanghai and nearby provinces. Is not a few but basically all have this elongated nipples.

How is with Beijing Women and other northern women is it the same there? Someone with interest on this subject may want to share his information.

[QUOTE=Roger9; 1265501]My experience is the same with women from Shanghai and nearby provinces. Is not a few but basically all have this elongated nipples.

How is with Beijing Women and other northern women is it the same there? Someone with interest on this subject may want to share his information.[/QUOTE]I had four girls on my last trip to BJ and CP, some were big nippled and some small. No geographic pattern.

Is only one variant of a theme that recurs if you search Stalin WWII and condoms on google.

The salient point was that the Soviets did not use condoms for fucking but to prevent rain from getting into their gun barrels.

[QUOTE=Vittu; 1265772]Is only one variant of a theme that recurs if you search Stalin WWII and condoms on google.

The salient point was that the Soviets did not use condoms for fucking but to prevent rain from getting into their gun barrels.[/QUOTE]Hillarious! .

Levitian

I just got back from Shanghai. I checked in on the 24 hours massage on Beijing road between 1500-1800. Price was $208 but the talent was pretty gruesome. Acne strewn and 5s (at best) on a scale of 1-10. I would rather do it myself. I went in the early afternoon so maybe it gets better later in the day.

I then walked two streets over to the 24 hour Yuyuan st massage. I have been there once before. The girl lily was not there (about a 7 and in her early 30s with a nice set) but there was another girl there in her late 20s. She was thin and Hot. She had a great smile. I was thinking about trying her on and got a text from my Chinese girlfriend. She was at the hotel and waiting for me. Well a freebie is a freebie. Better luck next time.

Sam

[QUOTE=SteelBaton;1265746]I had four girls on my last trip to BJ and CP, some were big nippled and some small. No geographic pattern.[/QUOTE]Ok, what stands CP for?

[b][u]EDITOR'S SUGGESTION[/u]:[/b] [blue]There is a link labeled "[u]Abbreviations[/u]" in the menu bar at the top of this page. This will take you to the Forum's Glossary where you will find a chart with most of the Terms & Abbreviations used in the Forum. [i]Thanks![/i][/blue]

[QUOTE=ShLax; 1265242]There was a conversation the other days form bunch of Expat guys who have been in Shanghai a while. Most have had several partners over the years and we were discussing the attributes of the Local (Shanghai and nearby provinces)

It was of general consensus that a large percentage of these women have large elongated (I. E. Pencil Eraser) Nipples.

Just wondering if other mongers out there have come to the same observations?[/QUOTE]Have a look in the Photo Gallery, there are some recent pics of a girl in Dalian, with pencil eraser nipples.

As other said, difficult to generalize. I have seen all sorts of shapes and sizes here. However, most of the girls I met were extremely sensitive and responsive when nicely caressed there.

Levitian

[QUOTE=Jman90024;1223736]I was at Jiangsu lu the other day and thought about a QQ girl advertising around the area.[/QUOTE]JMan,

I've been out of town for a while and just wondering if you still have contact details for the Jiangsu Lu Girl. I'm coming back to the Hai in a few weeks and thought I'd try to hook up with her

For anyone interested #568 at Bodi. Tall, very tall for a Chinese girl. 1.75m. Beautiful rack, C cup. But the kicker is her oral skills. She is a serious deepthroat champ. Wow. If this is what you are into and you like Bodi, give her a run.

[QUOTE=Roger9; 1265892]Ok, what stands CP for?

[b][u]EDITOR'S SUGGESTION[/u]:[/b] [blue]There is a link labeled "[u]Abbreviations[/u]" in the menu bar at the top of this page. This will take you to the Forum's Glossary where you will find a chart with most of the Terms & Abbreviations used in the Forum. [i]Thanks! [/i][/blue][/QUOTE]Jackson, since the website has been refurbished there is no more link labeled "abbreviations" in the menu bar as it was in the past.

This can be reached via FAQ. Fair enough, but the abbreviation list never included "CP", so Roger9 question is correct and stands still and valid.

What does CP mean then?

Try this:

Front Page. Forum Abbreviations.

Scroll down to "China City Abbreviations" or use the search function of your browser.

CP ChangPing.

[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1266378]Jackson, since the website has been refurbished there is no more link labeled "abbreviations" in the menu bar as it was in the past.

This can be reached via FAQ. Fair enough, but the abbreviation list never included "CP", so Roger9 question is correct and stands still and valid.

What does CP mean then?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1266378]Jackson, since the website has been refurbished there is no more link labeled "abbreviations" in the menu bar as it was in the past.

This can be reached via FAQ. Fair enough, but the abbreviation list never included "CP", so Roger9 question is correct and stands still and valid.

What does CP mean then?[/QUOTE]Chang Ping

[QUOTE=Blubber80; 1266421]Try this:Front Page. Forum Abbreviations. Scroll down to "China City Abbreviations" or use the search function of your browser.

CP ChangPing.[/QUOTE]Thanks and apologies for having been so short sighted, never went so "deep" into it. You opened a new "abbreviation" world to me! .

[QUOTE=Won Hee; 1264596]Date:2012-03-29.

Number of Technician:20. 50.

Service Type: ISO.

Price:780 (W / O Nuru) /880 (W / T Nuru)

Security: 5 Star.

Decoration: 5 Star.

Days before, I just saw mavipykds's review, would like to have a try. I used to go Dongseng and Batia, but now Batia is closed.

Just like you guys described, it's in the basement, a little humid. I called penny and made reservation of Technician 922. , young and tender. Photos are uploaded.

Take a look.[/QUOTE]This review says nothing. Did you actually have a session with the girl in the first photo? How did the session go? What happened? Did you have a nuru session, or not? Etc. Etc. Etc.

Or is this an advertisement for this place? I noticed that you've only made 3 posts. Are you an agent for this place and for the cute qq girl in one of the other two posts you've made on this date?

[QUOTE=Anonymous All; 1262475]There are more outcall services in Beijing, not as many in Shanghai. I have had a couple of good experiences from girls on this site.

[url]unforgettableshanghai.blog.com[/url]

MingMing is a good one if you are looking for knockers. But LanLan is my favorite especially after a couple of encounters. Cute girl with very satisfying service. Price is a bit high at 1000 plus cab, but for me I like the privacy of my hotel.[/QUOTE]Anonymous, thanks for the suggestion. I visited the website and it had a note about a VIP program, any idea what that's about? Are the pictures real? A few looks really good.

[QUOTE=Shaun Palmer;1264825]Any qq number to share? Thanks![/QUOTE]Go to the website shown on the pics.

[QUOTE=Shaun Palmer;1264825]Any qq number to share? Thanks![/QUOTE]More than the qq number I would like to have the site url. Any help?

Usually I take a look to dashtsrj, thfun and the classic shlf info, but there is not too many girls from Jingan.

Hello.

This is my first time posting in this forum.

I just want to share my experiences with the girls of the QQ.

The QQ is an instant messaging software. You can download the english version and it is very easy to use.

There are several websites where you can find the QQ girls (they have pictures and a QQ number) , then you contact them. Most of them have their own apartments where you meet them and do your business.

Usually they can't speak or type any english. So you must communicate with them in Chinese.

The first question that I ask them is wether they receive foreigners. From my experience about 50% of them refuse to receive foreigners.

Then you can visit their QQ space webpage, where you can check out more pictures. If you like the girl, then you must ask for the price (usually around 400). Address and phone number. Go to the address call them and the will open the door for you.

They always look better in the pictures than what they actually are, so choose carefully. I really like to meet girls like this, its cheap and intimate. You can always ask them to do a video verification through the QQ before you go there in order to be sure that you like the girls.

I would be happy to share laowai friendly QQ contacts with anyone through the private messaging.

[blue]===============================================

Greetings,

Here's how to contact other forum members.

1. Buy a subscription.

2. Send them a Private Message.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-subscriptions.php?[/url]

Thanks,

Jackson[/blue]

[QUOTE=Fritobugger;1266308]For anyone interested #568 at Bodi. Tall, very tall for a Chinese girl. 1.75m. Beautiful rack, C cup. But the kicker is her oral skills. She is a serious deepthroat champ. Wow. If this is what you are into and you like Bodi, give her a run.[/QUOTE]Took your advice and tried her out. Your post is true in every sense of the word. Highly recommend.

Hi Juango,

Please let me know how to use QQ: I am completely illiterate in Chinese.

Thanks a lot in advance.

Gregory

[QUOTE=Juango; 1267808]Hello.

This is my first time posting in this forum.

I just want to share my experiences with the girls of the QQ.

The QQ is an instant messaging software. You can download the english version and it is very easy to use.

There are several websites where you can find the QQ girls (they have pictures and a QQ number) , then you contact them. Most of them have their own apartments where you meet them and do your business.

Usually they can't speak or type any english. So you must communicate with them in Chinese.

The first question that I ask them is wether they receive foreigners. From my experience about 50% of them refuse to receive foreigners.

Then you can visit their QQ space webpage, where you can check out more pictures. If you like the girl, then you must ask for the price (usually around 400). Address and phone number. Go to the address call them and the will open the door for you.

They always look better in the pictures than what they actually are, so choose carefully. I really like to meet girls like this, its cheap and intimate. You can always ask them to do a video verification through the QQ before you go there in order to be sure that you like the girls.

I would be happy to share laowai friendly QQ contacts with anyone through the private messaging.

[blue]===============================================

Greetings,

Here's how to contact other forum members.

1. Buy a subscription.

2. Send them a Private Message.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-subscriptions.php?[/url]

Thanks,

Jackson[/blue][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Landa; 1267515]More than the qq number I would like to have the site url. Any help?

Usually I take a look to dashtsrj, thfun and the classic shlf info, but there is not too many girls from Jingan.[/QUOTE]Try these No's: 2394239356. Not stunning but enjoys her work.

1723781824. Had place to find however

Back in January, after I RTFF, I posted a few questions to this board, and I want to give a sincere thank-you to those who replied to me. Due to limited time in Shanghai, I knew that I would only have a chance to visit 2 or 3 places. Below is a brief description of where I went.

Based on one reply that told me that perhaps the easiest place to find that offered soapy massages was probably Si Yuan, I decided to go there first. (For a non-Chinese speaking foreigner, easy to find is a big plus)

Si Yuan is on the 3rd floor of the Merry Lin Hotel, on 818 Zhang Yang Lu across from Intercontinental Hotel. It is walking distance from Century Ave Station (metro lines 2, 4.6, 9 all go to Century Ave Station). The line-up had several very attractive girls, and they offer soapy massage. The girl I chose did not speak English (and for some reason she repeatedly tried speaking to me in Chinese even though it was obvious I did not understand Chinese). Despite the language barrier, it was still quite an enjoyable session (It was my first-ever soapy massage). Unfortunately, I did not think to remember the girl's number. My session included a "bubble massage", shower chair clean-up, soapy massage, BBBJ, and FS. I would definitely be willing to repeat next time I am in Shanghai.

After SiYuan, I walked around looking for Sacrosa (so that I would know where it was for future reference) since I saw that it was nearby. I did not see it, but when I got back to my hotel, I saw that there were specific directions available (that I did not have with me while walking around. I only have handwritten notes with me as I walk around, since I would face very expensive roaming charges if I used my smart phone in China. Except in WiFi zones). For reference, these instructions are pasted below: (Note, these instructions are pasted from another poster; I did not actually go to Sacrosa myself. They are for the benefit of others that, like myself, can benefit from specific instructions starting from a Metro station).

"Just take the #2 line to Dongchang Road station. Use exit #4 which will deposit you on the corner of Pudong Road (S). Then walk down Pudong Road (S) for about 2 blocks. You'll See the Next Age Shopping center. You have to walk into the courtyard sort of place. As repeated many times the entrance between the UBC Coffee and the Steak King. It's not marked. Just go through the doors and take the elevator to the 5th floor."

My understanding is that Sacrosa is cheaper than SiYuan, but does not include soapy.

Based on a positive review I saw, I went to Shanghai Hotel. I took the line 2 subway to the Jing'An temple stop, then walked to the hotel. The hotel is on Wulumuqui Street behind the Hilton. The spa is on the 2nd floor. Soapy massage did not appear to be available here. For some reason, I though I had read that it was. Although the session was still fairly good, I definitely prefer SiYuan due to the availability of soapy massage. Since the session at Shanghai Hotel cost about the same as SiYuan, I doubt that I would repeat at the Shanghai Hotel. In addition, I felt a bit awkward at the Shanghai Hotel sauna. First, you get naked and sit in a small pool. Next they lead you to an area where you get a massage from a old guy. (I DID NOT want this, and it took a while to get this point across since I don't speak Chinese). Then, they lead you to a steam room, and I was in there for longer than I wanted to be, but again had a hard time communicating this. When I finally did get to the point of choosing a girl and going to the room, the session was rather enjoyable, including a massage,"bubble massage", BBBJ, and FS. This part was very enjoyable, but still I would very likely choose other places rather than repeating here.

Last, I went to Bodi (1245 Longyang). I took line 7 to the Yanggao Road stop. Exited the station, turned right, and walked for about 20-25 minutes. Had to walk beyond Bodi to the next road where I could walk across a brigde across the highway. Enter sauna from separate entrance to the left of the hotel (can not get there from hotel entrance.) After my first two experiences, I thought it would be nicer if I was with an English-speaking girl, so at the fishbowl, I asked if any of the girls spoke English. Only one girl responded that she did, so I picked her. (Once again, I did not think to remember the girl's number). The session at Bodi was fairly similar to the one at Si Yuan. I would definitely repeat next time I am in Shanghai.

I understand that you can ask at your hotel for cab instructions in Chinese to these places, but I did not want to do this. Therefore, I just chose places that I could get to by walking from a metro station. For future reference, can anyone tell me if either "Waves" or "999" are near Metro stations? I tried to find this information, but I was not successful.

[QUOTE=Thekraz; 1268166]Try these No's: 2394239356. Not stunning but enjoys her work.

1723781824. Had place to find however[/QUOTE]Will try first one.

Here you all have some others that are not bad (maybe some account could be closed)

1186065110.

1436024647. 1360418102 &65288; same)

2453591737 (xingjiang)

2286922837.

Do not try 2286922837. Even if she pays you.

[QUOTE=GregoryB; 1267947]Hi Juango,

Please let me know how to use QQ: I am completely illiterate in Chinese.

Thanks a lot in advance.

Gregory[/QUOTE]Hi GregoryB.

You can take a look to my previous post about QQ girls.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?945-East-China-Shanghai&p=1250790#post1250790[/url]

However, if you do not speak any Chinese I would recommend you to do not lose your time with QQ girls.

BTW, I always ask them the price first and then tell them that I am a foreigner. I do not like the laowai fee at all.

PS: I will not say RTFF since I think the problem is not that people is lazy to search / read, but that the search feature really needs to be improved.

[QUOTE=Horny Dog #2; 1268643]Back in January, after I RTFF, I posted a few questions to this board, and I want to give a sincere thank-you to those who replied to me. Due to limited time in Shanghai, I knew that I would only have a chance to visit 2 or 3 places. Below is a brief description of where I went.

Based on one reply that told me that perhaps the easiest place to find that offered soapy massages was probably Si Yuan, I decided to go there first. (For a non-Chinese speaking foreigner, easy to find is a big plus)

Si Yuan is on the 3rd floor of the Merry Lin Hotel, on 818 Zhang Yang Lu across from Intercontinental Hotel. It is walking distance from Century Ave Station (metro lines 2, 4.6, 9 all go to Century Ave Station). The line-up had several very attractive girls, and they offer soapy massage. The girl I chose did not speak English (and for some reason she repeatedly tried speaking to me in Chinese even though it was obvious I did not understand Chinese). Despite the language barrier, it was still quite an enjoyable session (It was my first-ever soapy massage). Unfortunately, I did not think to remember the girl's number. My session included a "bubble massage", shower chair clean-up, soapy massage, BBBJ, and FS. I would definitely be willing to repeat next time I am in Shanghai.

After SiYuan, I walked around looking for Sacrosa (so that I would know where it was for future reference) since I saw that it was nearby. I did not see it, but when I got back to my hotel, I saw that there were specific directions available (that I did not have with me while walking around. I only have handwritten notes with me as I walk around, since I would face very expensive roaming charges if I used my smart phone in China. Except in WiFi zones). For reference, these instructions are pasted below: (Note, these instructions are pasted from another poster; I did not actually go to Sacrosa myself. They are for the benefit of others that, like myself, can benefit from specific instructions starting from a Metro station).

"Just take the #2 line to Dongchang Road station. Use exit #4 which will deposit you on the corner of Pudong Road (S). Then walk down Pudong Road (S) for about 2 blocks. You'll See the Next Age Shopping center. You have to walk into the courtyard sort of place. As repeated many times the entrance between the UBC Coffee and the Steak King. It's not marked. Just go through the doors and take the elevator to the 5th floor."

My understanding is that Sacrosa is cheaper than SiYuan, but does not include soapy.

Based on a positive review I saw, I went to Shanghai Hotel. I took the line 2 subway to the Jing'An temple stop, then walked to the hotel. The hotel is on Wulumuqui Street behind the Hilton. The spa is on the 2nd floor. Soapy massage did not appear to be available here. For some reason, I though I had read that it was. Although the session was still fairly good, I definitely prefer SiYuan due to the availability of soapy massage. Since the session at Shanghai Hotel cost about the same as SiYuan, I doubt that I would repeat at the Shanghai Hotel. In addition, I felt a bit awkward at the Shanghai Hotel sauna. First, you get naked and sit in a small pool. Next they lead you to an area where you get a massage from a old guy. (I DID NOT want this, and it took a while to get this point across since I don't speak Chinese). Then, they lead you to a steam room, and I was in there for longer than I wanted to be, but again had a hard time communicating this. When I finally did get to the point of choosing a girl and going to the room, the session was rather enjoyable, including a massage,"bubble massage", BBBJ, and FS. This part was very enjoyable, but still I would very likely choose other places rather than repeating here.

Last, I went to Bodi (1245 Longyang). I took line 7 to the Yanggao Road stop. Exited the station, turned right, and walked for about 20-25 minutes. Had to walk beyond Bodi to the next road where I could walk across a brigde across the highway. Enter sauna from separate entrance to the left of the hotel (can not get there from hotel entrance.) After my first two experiences, I thought it would be nicer if I was with an English-speaking girl, so at the fishbowl, I asked if any of the girls spoke English. Only one girl responded that she did, so I picked her. (Once again, I did not think to remember the girl's number). The session at Bodi was fairly similar to the one at Si Yuan. I would definitely repeat next time I am in Shanghai.

I understand that you can ask at your hotel for cab instructions in Chinese to these places, but I did not want to do this. Therefore, I just chose places that I could get to by walking from a metro station. For future reference, can anyone tell me if either "Waves" or "999" are near Metro stations? I tried to find this information, but I was not successful.[/QUOTE]Hey horny dog, just wanted to know the prices of Si Yuan and bodi and which place would you recommend of the 2?

Currently in shanghai for 1night and trying to hit one of these places tomolo.

Good write up for an Aussie here, but don't want to get over charged for not being local.

[QUOTE=MangoFromOz; 1269040]Hey horny dog, just wanted to know the prices of Si Yuan and bodi and which place would you recommend of the 2?

Currently in shanghai for 1night and trying to hit one of these places tomolo.

Good write up for an Aussie here, but don't want to get over charged for not being local.[/QUOTE]Mango,

If I recall correctly, both places charged 800 RMB My memory could be slightly wrong, but if that price is not exactly correct, it is definitely pretty close.

Both places offered essentially identical services as well. Therefore, which one winds up better for you would be depend more on the individual girl that you choose than the place. Since I don't have any specific girl's number to recommend for you, I would say that whichever one is easier to get to for you is the one to go to. I read many pages on this thread, and I got the impression that overall, more posters gave a slight edge to Bodi. My opinion is you will get very similar (good) service at either place.

[QUOTE=MangoFromOz; 1269040]Hey horny dog, just wanted to know the prices of Si Yuan and bodi and which place would you recommend of the 2?

Currently in shanghai for 1night and trying to hit one of these places tomolo.

Good write up for an Aussie here, but don't want to get over charged for not being local.[/QUOTE]Bodi is 880 rmb at any time of the day. Food and drinks are inclusive of price. I have no experience with Si Yuan.

Y

Just wanted to extend my thanks to all you fellow mongers. I spent 3 days in shanghai and after significant RTFFing and note taking, had a great time. Unfortnately because of work commitments I couldn't make it to the saunas, was definitely hoping for a bodi experience. Next time. I did visit manhattans and Malones though. At manhattans went with a pretty Vietnamese woman, asked for 2, settled at 1. 5 for the night.

For other shanghai first timers, I wanted to give two suggestions:

1) The forum has plenty of names and addresses. However, taxis (which are very cheap) tend to speak absolutely no English. Also you may think you are saying the address but to their ears they hear someone quite different. I found it invaluable to decide where I was going, go on the [url]www[/url], and literally print out the Chinese address with the Chinese characters. Not the English characters, you need to have the Chinese characters.

2) Strangely, many wgs especially at Manhattans do not seem to have condoms. Fortunately I bought a pack in a pharmacy. But you definitely want to get yourself some condoms as you cannot assume they will provide them.

Thanks again to all the posters on this site.

I have a flight and can choose to stop over in Singapore, kl or Hong kong. From a pure mongering perspective, which of these is best? I assume hk, but maybe others can directly compare from experience?

Either Singapore or Hong Kong, definitely not KL. Singapore might be easier since Geylang is an organized red light district kind of thing.

[QUOTE=Randa55;1269288]I have a flight and can choose to stop over in Singapore, kl or Hong kong. From a pure mongering perspective, which of these is best? I assume hk, but maybe others can directly compare from experience?[/QUOTE]

Went yesterday to one of the BBS in Laoshan Road / Qixin Road. Standard rates. She started to quote 300 and agreed to 200. Then you leave the room through the backdoor and you get to the basement of these residential buildings. Around one corner and they use one of the basement rooms for the customers. They even built a small shower and I hope the girls use it from time to time. After the action you have to possibility to leave the basement through the normal staircase. Quit conveniant.

A couple of weekends ago I was in Shanghai.

Visit Heting sauna. Very easy to find. Too the metro there. I arrived around 1:30 on Saturday afternoon. Place was very busy, had to wait on shower. After shower, I sat in the waiting area for about 15 minutes. Me and 2 other Chinese punters were taken to the lineup. 8 girls, ranging for 6 to 8. 5. I choose #171. Very good service. 2 shots. Great BBBJTC. Back door not an option.

Went to manhattan bar Saturday night. Place was packed, but I did not connect with any. Prices quoted from 500 to 2000. Girls ranged from 5's to maybe 7. 5.

Personally I prefer saunas than picking up girls at manhattan bar. Saunas are much safer, cheaper, fail safe bet. They know what they are doing and I rarely have a bad experience at saunas. Manhattan is very hit / miss.

Fitz

[QUOTE=Gaist Asia;1269861]Went yesterday to one of the BBS in Laoshan Road / Qixin Road. Standard rates. She started to quote 300 and agreed to 200. Then you leave the room through the backdoor and you get to the basement of these residential buildings. Around one corner and they use one of the basement rooms for the customers. They even built a small shower and I hope the girls use it from time to time. After the action you have to possibility to leave the basement through the normal staircase. Quit conveniant.[/QUOTE]Thanks, but did you mean Laoshan Road / Qixia Road, since I could not find Qixin on Google Maps, Cheers.

[QUOTE=Changlelu;1269991]Thanks, but did you mean Laoshan Road / Qixia Road, since I could not find Qixin on Google Maps, Cheers.[/QUOTE]Sorry, my mistake. It should have been Qixia Road.

Last week I visited Spring Massage before going to sleep. Here is my short report about it:

Place name: Spring Massage.

Location: Cross of Maoming Lu and WeiHai Lu (entrance in maoming lu. There is a couple of stairs (down) and then you can take the elevator to the second floor)

Business hours: close at 2am.

Service: HJ (no FS available)

Price: 258/80m and you can add 40 for special massage (which I think its just more oil and 10 minutes extra).

Girl: #18 LinLin, slim, tall, B cups, nice (not like rest of Chinese) nipples.

This place also has regular good quality and not very expensive massages for those of you who just want to relax. Girls who offer the extra services use to wear high heels colorful shoes).

You can ask for an specific girl but there isn't a line up or anything like that.

LinLin is a very funny girl. She speaks very little english and a little more portuguese. She spent 6 months in Luanda (Angola) for whatever reason I could not find out.

Her massage skills were more than acceptable and she was also good taking care of little brother. She happily allows touching (top part naked, down part only over the skirt) and the whole session was smiling and joking.

The only bad thing about this place is that they try really hard to sell you the VIP card (1000RMB with 20% disccount) , but at least with a big smile in their face.

I was recently in Shanghai for 10 days leisure time visiting a friend who is working there. Here are some thoughts of a 40 year old scandinavian punter:

1. Saunas: I only visited Bodi on Wednesday evening. This facilities were good, also service of the staff was good and they spoke suprisingly well english compared to many other people.

The line up was ok, about 15-20 girls. Mostly short, small and petite girls but some more taller and more busty as well. I was in the room with 4 asian guys who picked first and after them I had to choose. It was really difficult to pic up and the staff was pushing me a bit to make my choise. Ended up with a really petite young girl, small breasts but well proportioned to her body. In the room she gave me body to body massage and after that blowjob + sex in the bed. Good service alltogether! At the end I took another shower and then out to main area sauna and some beers (free of charge). As a summary OK experience but nothing that I have not had in Macvu or in German FKK's. Picking up girls from the line is really not my thing, I dislike the hastiness. I much prefer the german FKK style where you can talk to the girls and feel them up before going to have sex. Bodi is well maintained and good sauna with nice facilities and reasonably good lineup, cost 880 RMB.

2. Bars: Well everyone who has been reading this forum knows that Manhattan is a safe bet. And so it was. Mostly vietnamese girls, some prettier than the others. No real stunners in my opinion but different shapes and sizes for everyone. I took 3 different girls for LT from Manhattan. 2/3 were great. 1 (the sexiest) began to ask more money in the hotelroom so it ended up top be ST. I always paid only part of the money in the evening and the rest in the morning to ensure the girls would not leave in the middle of the night with full payment in their purse. And it turned out to be good tactics, the 2 girls stayed until 11-12 in the morning and gave another round of sex in the morning which I enjoy. The cost for LT was 1500-1600 RMB for me. Maybe the girls would have come with less money but since my time was limited I did not want to waste my time in negotiating the price. And I got those girls I wanted to have.

Judy's was also good, on the same level as Manhattan. The number of girls is less but there were nice ones in the crowd. I took one vietnamese girl for LT and she was maybe the best of them all during my trip. 33 years old, beautiful face, firm body and enjoyable, tight pussy. She stayed also in the morning and after sex we took a bath together.

I also visited the bars opposite to Hilton hotel in the Jing An temple area. These bars are fun for a while but they begin to be expensive as the girls are asking for drinks all the time. Some girls were prestty and they let you feel their bodies and breasts quite openly. As long as you keep buying them drinks! I think some of these girls also go to the hotel if you first pay the bar a "barfine" and then you have to pay the girls. However I did not take any of these girls to the hotel, I preferred the vietnamese take outs from Manhattan / Judy's. There are also a strip of these girl bars in Pudong area opposite the Eton Hotel.

Bar Rouge and Mint Club are upscale bars / nightclubs and I did not see obvious working girls there. But maybe occacionally there are freelancers. Most propably asking a lot of money. Still worth while going since thay are stylish bars and good change for Manhattan. At some point I got bored of the hooker bars and wanted to see more normal venues.

3. Massage places: I only visited one massage place that was opposite the Eton hotel in Pudong. First a normal shoulder / back massage and after that you can have extras: handjob, blowjob or even sex. I took handjob and the girl removed all her clothes and began the "hand shandy". I rubbed her pussy and breasts and she got aroused. At some point she asked if I have condoms and I replied no, just keep on going with your hand. She then moved like she was about to ride me bareback so I stopped her and told her to continue with hand. I think she might have gone bareback if I would not have reacted. So be careful out there! Unless of course you like to get bareback sex. I also do not like these massage places so much so I did not try anymore of those. Seems to be quite many of these in Shanghai.

This was my first and propably last visit to Shanghai unless I have to work there some day-that's a different story then. Clearly the least interesting city in SE Asia that I have been to. Bangkok, Hong Kong, Manila, Saigon and even Tokio offer much more than Shanghai in terms of girls and other things as well. And the lack of english skills of the Chinese people, pushiness and trying to cheat you all the time really made me nuts. The food in China is good though and it was cool to see the Formula 1 race on Sunday 15. 4.

-Keppana

[QUOTE=Keppana; 1270606]I was recently in Shanghai for 10 days leisure time visiting a friend who is working there. Here are some thoughts of a 40 year old scandinavian punter:

1. Saunas: I only visited Bodi on Wednesday evening. This facilities were good, also service of the staff was good and they spoke suprisingly well english compared to many other people.

The line up was ok, about 15-20 girls. Mostly short, small and petite girls...[/QUOTE]Can you tell me how much you paid for the massage and HJ. How much they asked for blowjob and FS? And can you more specific with the location? Thanks.

[QUOTE=Gaist Asia;1270627]Can you tell me how much you paid for the massage and HJ. How much they asked for blowjob and FS? And can you more specific with the location? Thanks.[/QUOTE]GA,

I paid 200 RMB for the massage and 300 or 400 RMB for the rest if I remember correctly. You can always try to get the price down but some girls are bery persistant and will not go for that. But it depends on your personal likings.

Tha location, well I don't remember the address but there was a bar called Sport's bar next to the massage places. If you stand in the corner of Eton hotel that has supermarket and pharmacy, facing the river, the bars are in front of you and also the massage places. You simply cannot miss them! If nothing else helps then go to Eton hotel reception and ask for Sport's bar, thay will tell you the direction. Have fun!

-Kep

[QUOTE=Keppana; 1270760]GA,

I paid 200 RMB for the massage and 300 or 400 RMB for the rest if I remember correctly. You can always try to get the price down but some girls are bery persistant and will not go for that. But it depends on your personal likings.

Tha location, well I don't remember the address but there was a bar called Sport's bar next to the massage places. If you stand in the corner of Eton hotel that has supermarket and pharmacy, facing the river, the bars are in front of you and also the massage places. You simply cannot miss them! If nothing else helps then go to Eton hotel reception and ask for Sport's bar, thay will tell you the direction. Have fun!

-Kep[/QUOTE]The strip Kep is refering is Chang Yi Lu near Dong Fang Lu. There is a strip of bars and massage places. Sports Bar is run by Stan (who also runs the Tavern down the block) , has a mix of girls in there including Phils, who are just plain fun to hang out with (not lookers) but don't press you for drinks. As you go down the street, some of the bars (Naughty Beaver, et al) have girls that will try to soak you for drinks. The massage place is closer to the corner than the Sports Bar.

SH

Hi Keppana,

Is the 1500-1600 RMB was for the 2 girls? Did you had some girl on girl action? I keep on looking but I do not find some girls willing to do it. By the way if anybody has a contact who does this, please do share.

[QUOTE=Randa55;1269285]Strangely, many wgs especially at Manhattans do not seem to have condoms. Fortunately I bought a pack in a pharmacy. But you definitely want to get yourself some condoms as you cannot assume they will provide them.[/QUOTE]I have found this with Manhattan girls as well. They want to stop the taxi to get condoms. Can it be that they just don't want to get checked out by LE with a dozen condoms in their purses?

While we are on the subject. If you want to avoid thick condoms then goggle Sagami Original. They are thin strong and transmit some heat. Big improvement.

[url]http://www.e-condom.org/6-sagamioriginal.html[/url]

[QUOTE=WandererShanghai; 1270885]Hi Keppana,

Is the 1500-1600 RMB was for the 2 girls? Did you had some girl on girl action? I keep on looking but I do not find some girls willing to do it. By the way if anybody has a contact who does this, please do share.[/QUOTE]No no, that would be too good to be true. The price was for each girl for LT. For sure some girls are willing to do threesome if you pay enough. It is all about the money.

-Kep

[QUOTE=Keppana; 1271156]No no, that would be too good to be true. The price was for each girl for LT. For sure some girls are willing to do threesome if you pay enough. It is all about the money.

-Kep[/QUOTE]Sounds like a lot. But I will be honest. Have not done takeout at Manhattans for a year. I seem to recall a girl telling me 1200 for her but 1800 if I brought her friend too (for a two-fer). It may have been short time I don't remember

Thanks it gives me a better idea of the prices. I am kind of shy to go to such places, this is why I am asking if anybody has a number or can refer me to. It is not that I do not want, it is more that I still mingle to take the first step.

[QUOTE=SamCan;1271247]Sounds like a lot. But I will be honest. Have not done takeout at Manhattans for a year. I seem to recall a girl telling me 1200 for her but 1800 if I brought her friend too (for a two-fer). It may have been short time I don't remember[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WandererShanghai;1271290]Thanks it gives me a better idea of the prices. I am kind of shy to go to such places, this is why I am asking if anybody has a number or can refer me to. It is not that I do not want, it is more that I still mingle to take the first step.[/QUOTE]I have gone to manhattan's about 4. 5 months ago. I was killing time until my girlfriend was getting off work. I got a cute viet girl down to $800 for a 2-3 hours. I wasn't really trying just getting some free groping and doing some market research LOL. It seems to get cheaper as the night wears on, but the selection gets thinner. I have hung out until 330 just to see how it goes.

When are you in sh? Pm me, I am going back soon. I'll meet you there. I am no expert but can show you the roped.

Hi Keppana,

Thanks for a great report. I have to say the part I quoted intrigues me. I mean did they let you feel them [b]all over[/b] Right there in the bar? Was it in a more discreet stall or separate room or just right there on a barstool? And how much would a drink set you back? And also how good are the vietnamese girls' english in Manhattan / Judy's, and how old do you think most of them are?

[QUOTE=Keppana; 1270606].

I also visited the bars opposite to Hilton hotel in the Jing An temple area. These bars are fun for a while but they begin to be expensive as the girls are asking for drinks all the time. Some girls were prestty and they let you feel their bodies and breasts quite openly. As long as you keep buying them drinks! I think some of these girls also go to the hotel if you first pay the bar a "barfine" and then you have to pay the girls. However I did not take any of these girls to the hotel, I preferred the vietnamese take outs from Manhattan / Judy's. There are also a strip of these girl bars in Pudong area opposite the Eton Hotel.

-Keppana[/QUOTE]

I went to this massage place called My Spa on Mingyue Road in Jin Qiao last week.

I asked for a standard oil massage and it was 90mins for 390rmb. I don't remember the number of the girl, maybe no. 12. She was slim and tall with short hair. Maybe a 7. We went to the room and I took a shower, then put on those little massage shorts. She gave me a half-assed oil massage for about 30 mins and then I flipped over and she started rubbing my willy, and that turned into a HJ and then we were done. Only 60mins even though supposed to be 90mins and the massage wasn't even mediocre. She had only asked for a tip while taking care of me so when I was leaving I gave her 200rmb and she was v. Offended and asked for 500. I told her no way, not for HJ. She ended up getting another 100rmb out of me.

I recommend definitely giving this place a pass. It is the type of place that reminds you of all the bad things about China and Shanghai. The dickering over money, shoddy service, etc.

-

[QUOTE=Ronin500; 1271488]I went to this massage place called My Spa on Mingyue Road in Jin Qiao last week.

I asked for a standard oil massage and it was 90mins for 390rmb. I don't remember the number of the girl, maybe no. 12. She was slim and tall with short hair. Maybe a 7. We went to the room and I took a shower, then put on those little massage shorts. She gave me a half-assed oil massage for about 30 mins and then I flipped over and she started rubbing my willy, and that turned into a HJ and then we were done. Only 60mins even though supposed to be 90mins and the massage wasn't even mediocre. She had only asked for a tip while taking care of me so when I was leaving I gave her 200rmb and she was v. Offended and asked for 500. I told her no way, not for HJ. She ended up getting another 100rmb out of me.

I recommend definitely giving this place a pass. It is the type of place that reminds you of all the bad things about China and Shanghai. The dickering over money, shoddy service, etc.

-[/QUOTE]790 rmb for a happy ending? OMG! Go to a sauna pay the same and tell them to only give you a HJ and skip the FS. At least you get to use the shower, the pool couple of free drinks (depending on the place) and you are in a robe so you have no place for a tip! Thanks for the heads up. I am sure the pressure was great but 300 kuai for a tip is way too heavy on top of a 390 start. Thanks. Won't visit that establishment.

[QUOTE=TimCha; 1271401]Hi Keppana,

Thanks for a great report. I have to say the part I quoted intrigues me. I mean did they let you feel them [b]all over[/b] Right there in the bar? Was it in a more discreet stall or separate room or just right there on a barstool? And how much would a drink set you back? And also how good are the vietnamese girls' english in Manhattan / Judy's, and how old do you think most of them are?[/QUOTE]Stay away from across the street from the hilton. You will spend the eqivalent of 2-3 HE massages and leave with less. Hey if that is your thing go for it. One of the bars is quoted to have a "special" room upstairs. As far as Manhattans,"What is your name? Where you from? How long you in Shanghai, I am from viet nam, my name is XXXX, do you want to FXXX? That will be XXXX RMB. This is the standard conversation at Manhattans. Don't expect much more in the room.

Keppanna can weigh infor the other details

[QUOTE=SamCan; 1271602]Stay away from across the street from the hilton. You will spend the eqivalent of 2-3 HE massages and leave with less. Hey if that is your thing go for it. One of the bars is quoted to have a "special" room upstairs. As far as Manhattans,"What is your name? Where you from? How long you in Shanghai, I am from viet nam, my name is XXXX, do you want to FXXX? That will be XXXX RMB. This is the standard conversation at Manhattans. Don't expect much more in the room.

Keppanna can weigh infor the other details[/QUOTE]Totally depends on the girls. There is about 60 girls in Manhattan at 12. Enough material to interview.

Went to the Merrylin and had a good time at the sauna there. 880rmb and you get to pick your own girl from a fish tank, get a nice soapy wash with body rubbing, rimming, and then a good BBBJ and then safe FJ. I guess it really depends on which girl you pick, but this one's good with a good GFE, and even allows DFK. But what I really dig is after the deed is done, they bring you to another girl in a qipao which gives you the best GFE while doing clean stuff on you: back rub, clean your ears, cutting your fingernails. Really made my day.

If you've RTFF you'll find more on this sauna, plus it's associated saunas like Bodi. However the key piece of info that I wanted to share: was that before I entered Merrylin, I was approached by really enthusiastic (and not bad looking) girls outside the hotel, asking if I wanted a massage. They can come to your room, or can go with you to get a room (your choice of hotel) , or can follow you home. RMB 400 for the deed, although you know it's not just a massage you'll be getting. I should've asked how much for the whole night.

I've not tried their services, can any bros give some indication on these services?

[QUOTE=Landa; 1249989]After being several months reading the forum (despite I just registered an account) I decided to help a little and find more info about the place requested (I got the info from Chinese forums)

Jiashan Road, Lane 256, cross with Jianguo North Road.

In Jiashan Road, go north about 80 meters. On the left side, the big place.

Name in Chinese &22025; &20048; &20250; &25152; Jiayue huisuo (the last two mean sauna)

Chinese folks said that FS is 680, 2pops, and some said is good some said there is nothing special. Typical sauna procedures.

No more info sorry.[/QUOTE]This place is actually Jia Le Hui Suo. &22025; &20048; &20250; &25152; . The Le is also pronounced Yue, so I understand why you'd make that mistake.

There should be a guy waiting out the door, there's only a very small sign saying "&22025; &20048;" so it's kind of easy to miss, but if you walk around you'll see it. There's some kind of convenience shop (either 7-11 or FamilyMart) at Jiashan Road / Jianguo Road.

Sticker price 780, have heard of some people getting cheaper rates.

[QUOTE=Won Hee;1264604]2 Day's before This girls is from ShenZhen. So not good at mandarin. Cantonese and English is OK.[/QUOTE]Can you pm me contact info please?

Hi All,

I have found this website below great for meeting QQ girls while in Shanghai.

The site has over 600 QQ girls photos with their QQ numbers.

Most girls I have met charged me 300-400rmb for their services (incall and outcall)

[url]www.casualencounterschina.com[/url]

Shanghai has been a wonderful experience for me!

I have attached a few pics from the site.

[QUOTE=ShenzhenSimon; 1272111]Hi All,

I have found this website below great for meeting QQ girls while in Shanghai.

The site has over 600 QQ girls photos with their QQ numbers.

Most girls I have met charged me 300-400rmb for their services (incall and outcall)

[url]www.casualencounterschina.com[/url]

Shanghai has been a wonderful experience for me!

I have attached a few pics from the site.[/QUOTE]Were the photos accurate by your experience? It looks like another craigslilst to me. I clicked on the first ad for "Wendy" and the photo popped up with "Monica" on it.

Just for fun I ran a couple of these pics of girls on casualencounterchina through tineye and about half of those I checked are clearly fake. One of those pics were clearly a korean girl too just by looking at it, I mean that's just plain lazy. I've been intrigued by the idea of QQ girls after hearing about them, but after some research it just seems like too much of an hassle unless you actually live there and have the spare time to pick out the fakes from the real ones. I mean if you've got a very limited time in town, to risk having your evening ruined by some girl showing up that isn't even remotely as beautiful as you were expecting just doesn't seem worth it.

[QUOTE=Equine; 1271631]Went to the Merrylin and had a good time at the sauna there. 880rmb and you get to pick your own girl from a fish tank, get a nice soapy wash with body rubbing, rimming, and then a good BBBJ and then safe FJ. I guess it really depends on which girl you pick, but this one's good with a good GFE, and even allows DFK. But what I really dig is after the deed is done, they bring you to another girl in a qipao which gives you the best GFE while doing clean stuff on you: back rub, clean your ears, cutting your fingernails. Really made my day.

If you've RTFF you'll find more on this sauna, plus it's associated saunas like Bodi. However the key piece of info that I wanted to share: was that before I entered Merrylin, I was approached by really enthusiastic (and not bad looking) girls outside the hotel, asking if I wanted a massage. They can come to your room, or can go with you to get a room (your choice of hotel) , or can follow you home. RMB 400 for the deed, although you know it's not just a massage you'll be getting. I should've asked how much for the whole night.

I've not tried their services, can any bros give some indication on these services?[/QUOTE]Equine,

I'm very curious about your post. I also went to Merrylin, and I would definitely recommend it to others. I believe I paid the same 880 RMB. However, I did not get another girl in the qipao giving me the additional services after the main deed is done. Was this included in the 880 price?

[QUOTE=Equine; 1271631]Went to the Merrylin and had a good time at the sauna there. 880rmb and you get to pick your own girl from a fish tank, get a nice soapy wash with body rubbing, rimming, and then a good BBBJ and then safe FJ. I guess it really depends on which girl you pick, but this one's good with a good GFE, and even allows DFK. But what I really dig is after the deed is done, they bring you to another girl in a qipao which gives you the best GFE while doing clean stuff on you: back rub, clean your ears, cutting your fingernails. Really made my day.

If you've RTFF you'll find more on this sauna, plus it's associated saunas like Bodi. However the key piece of info that I wanted to share: was that before I entered Merrylin, I was approached by really enthusiastic (and not bad looking) girls outside the hotel, asking if I wanted a massage. They can come to your room, or can go with you to get a room (your choice of hotel) , or can follow you home. RMB 400 for the deed, although you know it's not just a massage you'll be getting. I should've asked how much for the whole night.

Ht

I've not tried their services, can any bros give some indication on these services?[/QUOTE]Will be in Shanghai one night on 26th, do you remember the girl's name or number?

Thanks.

JB

[QUOTE=SamCan;1271247]Sounds like a lot. But I will be honest. Have not done takeout at Manhattans for a year. I seem to recall a girl telling me 1200 for her but 1800 if I brought her friend too (for a two-fer). It may have been short time I don't remember[/QUOTE]Hi SamCan,

Maybe I have written a bit unclear in my previous messages. I did not have threesome action with girls but took always only one girl back to hotel. And the price was 1500 RMB or 1600 RMB for each girl for LT.

I doubt that you can get 2 girls back to hotel for 1800 totally nowadays, must be short time.

-Kep

[QUOTE=SamCan; 1271602]Stay away from across the street from the hilton. You will spend the eqivalent of 2-3 HE massages and leave with less. Hey if that is your thing go for it. One of the bars is quoted to have a "special" room upstairs. As far as Manhattans,"What is your name? Where you from? How long you in Shanghai, I am from viet nam, my name is XXXX, do you want to FXXX? That will be XXXX RMB. This is the standard conversation at Manhattans. Don't expect much more in the room.

Keppanna can weigh infor the other details[/QUOTE]Hi,

Osuul is right, there are many girls in Manhattan and also in Judy's and the level of conversation skills is different. Some speak only few words and some speak decent english. Anyway I got along pretty well and had no problems with the communication. There was one hot bodied spinner in Judy's but her friend told me that she does not speak any english. I was tempted to take her but at the end chose another girl who spoke english. Each to his own, of course, but for me complete lack of communication is not nice.

Most of the vietnamese girls in Manhattan and Judy's are between 20-30 years old. I had one 34 years old and she was the best in my trip. Still tight body and pussy and more experienced than a young girl.

I agree also with SamCan, don't expect high level conversation in the room. But on the other hand most people go to Manhattan to get laid, so it does not matter so much if the girls english is poor in the bed, LOL.

As for the bars opposite to Hilton, I also find them mostly waste of money. Especially if one does not have have much time in Shanghai, then it is much better to go to a sauna or to Manhattan / Judy's. But for a few drinks it is OK and you have the opportunity to feel the girls bodies. I had one sexy cat in those bars next to Hilton who had see through panties and short skirt and she let me touch her pussy quite openly in the middle of the bar. With the panties on, of course.

-Kep

Which bar across the street has the "special room" upstairs? What do they offer that is "special" and how much? I sometimes cross the street from the Hilton to "wet the appetite" before moving on to other venues. Agreed, you can spend a lot of money in a short time with nothing to show. During Expo I had a couple of girls who were willing, only to be turned down by Hilton security because they recognized them as "frequent visitors". It just wasn't worth the effort given the alternatives. That said, I'm curious about others experience.

Knotawake

[QUOTE=Keppana; 1272501]Hi,

Osuul is right, there are many girls in Manhattan and also in Judy's and the level of conversation skills is different. Some speak only few words and some speak decent english. Anyway I got along pretty well and had no problems with the communication. There was one hot bodied spinner in Judy's but her friend told me that she does not speak any english. I was tempted to take her but at the end chose another girl who spoke english. Each to his own, of course, but for me complete lack of communication is not nice.

Most of the vietnamese girls in Manhattan and Judy's are between 20-30 years old. I had one 34 years old and she was the best in my trip. Still tight body and pussy and more experienced than a young girl.

I agree also with SamCan, don't expect high level conversation in the room. But on the other hand most people go to Manhattan to get laid, so it does not matter so much if the girls english is poor in the bed, LOL.

As for the bars opposite to Hilton, I also find them mostly waste of money. Especially if one does not have have much time in Shanghai, then it is much better to go to a sauna or to Manhattan / Judy's. But for a few drinks it is OK and you have the opportunity to feel the girls bodies. I had one sexy cat in those bars next to Hilton who had see through panties and short skirt and she let me touch her pussy quite openly in the middle of the bar. With the panties on, of course.

-Kep[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knotawake; 1272545]Which bar across the street has the "special room" upstairs? What do they offer that is "special" and how much? I sometimes cross the street from the Hilton to "wet the appetite" before moving on to other venues. Agreed, you can spend a lot of money in a short time with nothing to show. During Expo I had a couple of girls who were willing, only to be turned down by Hilton security because they recognized them as "frequent visitors". It just wasn't worth the effort given the alternatives. That said, I'm curious about others experience.

Knotawake[/QUOTE]The special room upstairs I refered to I read about. I think you can find it on the shanghai guide site in the open, not member area. Or it is in this forum. I never read of what happens there. Maybe a BJ at most unless you get the right girl. I had a girl offer me a BJ right in the open in there once (before I discovered MPs and Manhattans). I ended up getting a HJ right in the bar. The next night I tried another bar and no girls would even let me touch them so YMMV.

As far as the Hilton, yes, if a girl has been registered to two rooms in the same night, they must notify the police. They did you a courtesy by not letting you in.

[QUOTE=Jude Bright; 1272407]Will be in Shanghai one night on 26th, do you remember the girl's name or number?

Thanks.

JB[/QUOTE]Which girl? The FS girl is 858 if I'm not wrong, and the normal massage girl I'm going to keep her for myself. Hahaha.

But in any case, the normal massage girls are all pretty fun and very pretty.

[QUOTE=Horny Dog #2; 1272304]Equine,

I'm very curious about your post. I also went to Merrylin, and I would definitely recommend it to others. I believe I paid the same 880 RMB. However, I did not get another girl in the qipao giving me the additional services after the main deed is done. Was this included in the 880 price?[/QUOTE]The qipao girls oly number 4 or 5 of them, and yes when it's busy you won't get them. They do charge for their normal services, depending on what you ask them to do. Back rub, head massage, ear cleaning, nail cutting. I got mine done in the common waiting room.

After watching F1 in Sunday decided to make a short pit stop at one of the BBSatLaoshan Road. Took the 3rd shop walking from Qixia Road.

Got quoted 200 directly and went through the backdoor with the girl. You have to walk to the 3F of the residential building. There they have 1 big room with 3 beds that are separated by curtains. As only customer at that time it was okay. But might be disturbing sharing the rooms with others fellows. In the room she asked for 1oo tip for BBBJ. It was definetly worth spending. Then did 3 positions and get to the chequred flag. Got cleanded up and left the building through the main entrance. Good experience.

[QUOTE=SamCan; 1272766].

As far as the Hilton, yes, if a girl has been registered to two rooms in the same night, they must notify the police. They did you a courtesy by not letting you in.[/QUOTE]Every guest has to register and all is reported to the police.

[QUOTE=Loveasiangirls;1272784]Every guest has to register and all is reported to the police.[/QUOTE]That is most likely true. I brought a girl in however last summer. I had brought her into the hilton many times before. I registered her no problem in the past. This particular time she told me she had all ready registered at the hotel, that night. Dumb laowei, I said "so what" let's go. The guy at the desk told me. He could not register her because she was all ready registered for one room that night. If they registered her, they would have to call the police.

It seemed much more different under these cirumstances. Obviously if one girl is registerred to two rooms, she is (most likely) a bonafide WG.

Hey I am not expert. It is what they told me. FWIW

Not all hotels ask that both of you register.

1. She gets the room.

2. You don't walk in together.

3. If the elevators are blocked by card access, she will have to come to the ground floor.

4. I don't frequent 4 and 5 star hotels.

5. Sm works for us.

6. I have been doing this for 2 years.

7. Don't leave together.

8. Be discrete.

went to siyuan's two nights ago. my first time. so when they brought me into the shower and then to the 68 rmb massage, i figured it was because they did not know me and i did not know the drill. after i specified, again, my intentions. fs. they took me to the fish bowl / choosing room. there were only three choices. don't know if they were busy or because it was saturday night or they peeped me coming in and those were the only three willing. by this time my mind set was wtf but i went with the flow, choosing number 833 or maybe it was 803. i should have written it down. you'll see why in a minute.

her english is better than my chinese but through a series of grunts and hand gestures we have our rythm down and she seemingly enthusiastically begins her work. as i said i was a neophite and that showed, i am sure. we manage to communicate and are having a laugh or two amidst moans. hers and mine. after about 30 minutes we go to the bed and do what we are going to do. it is cool. afterwards she wants to talk. and says that she wants me to be there for another 30 or 40 minutes. until 1:00 a. m. she said she leaves at 2:00. the vibe is cool so, i take this as a sign that i can get another round in and start to touch her. she says no. she wants to shower and talk. i say, ok then i am going to shower and leave. i am not angry. my tone is even. i just have no other reason to stay, if i am not getting some more. she says no leave. now picture that all of this is going on in our best efforts to bridhe the language barrier. after she showers me i begin to put on the clothes they have given me. she says no, sit down, pointing at the bed. i say no, i am ready to leave. i am tired and want to go to sleep. this woman is like no, stay with me. i open the door. she rushes to the door naked pulling it closed and is insistent that i stay with her. after i insist that i am going, she says that i need to wait for her to walk me out. i said fine, put on your clothes and come on. she says sit down and starts to go back to the shower. ok, by this time i am getting paranoid. and am ready to leave as soon as i can. so, i open the door and walk to the hall, not real sure of which direction is the exit. she rushed to the hall, still naked, and grabs my arm. this woman is actually trying to restrain me. at no point am i loud or beligerent. i calmly and firmly pull away. and she yells for the guy that brought me to the fish bowl. he comes, and calmly says this way sir. from then on they escort me back to the locker room and pay station as if nothing has happened.

now, i have no idea what went on. maybe someone can shed some light on this. but it was weird. and also a little scary, at least to me.

[QUOTE=Stegram;1272260]Were the photos accurate by your experience? It looks like another craigslilst to me. I clicked on the first ad for "Wendy" and the photo popped up with "Monica" on it.[/QUOTE]Hi Stegram,

I chose 2 QQ girls from this site and asked them to email me pictures before meeting.

Both girls who visited me were the girls in the photos on the website. Both girls I met I did "chat" to online for a few days before meeting.

I am sure there are fakes amongst the list, generally if the girl looks like a super model I stay away as the probability of the pic being fake is high.

The other section on [url]www.casualencounterschina.com[/url] "Recent Posts" looks fake.

I have used QQ a lot in Shenzhen and have only experience one "fake". Turns out the girl wasn't to bad so I was not that fussed!

[QUOTE=Waldeck2; 1272804]Not all hotels ask that both of you register.

1. She gets the room.

2. You don't walk in together.

3. If the elevators are blocked by card access, she will have to come to the ground floor.

4. I don't frequent 4 and 5 star hotels.

5. Sm works for us.

6. I have been doing this for 2 years.

7. Don't leave together.

8. Be discrete.[/QUOTE]I agree, the post started about the Hilton. I am only referring to the hilton as I stay there much. There are some 4-5 stars I have stayed at where the security guard has held the elevator for me (48 years old) and my 24 year old girlfriend. We do not look like a pair. The hilton after 10 goes full alert.

[quote=oldqdog; 1272871]went to siyuan's two nights ago. my first time. so when they brought me into the shower and then to the 68 rmb massage, i figured it was because they did not know me and i did not know the drill. after i specified, again, my intentions. fs. they took me to the fish bowl / choosing room. there were only three choices. don't know if they were busy or because it was saturday night or they peeped me coming in and those were the only three willing. by this time my mind set was wtf but i went with the flow, choosing number 833 or maybe it was 803. i should have written it down. you'll see why in a minute.

her english is better than my chinese but through a series of grunts and hand gestures we have our rythm down and she seemingly enthusiastically begins her work. as i said i was a neophite and that showed, i am sure. we manage to communicate and are having a laugh or two amidst moans. hers and mine. after about 30 minutes we go to the bed and do what we are going to do. it is cool. afterwards she wants to talk. and says that she wants me to be there for another 30 or 40 minutes. until 1:00 am she said she leaves at 2:00. the vibe is cool so, i take this as a sign that i can get another round in and start to touch her. she says no. she wants to shower and talk. i say, ok then i am going to shower and leave. i am not angry. my tone is even. i just have no other reason to stay, if i am not getting some more. she says no leave. now picture that all of this is going on in our best efforts to bridhe the language barrier. after she showers me i begin to put on the clothes they have given me. she says no, sit down, pointing at the bed. i say no, i am ready to leave. i am tired and want to go to sleep. this woman is like no, stay with me. i open the door. she rushes to the door naked pulling it closed and is insistent that i stay with her. after i insist that i am going, she says that i need to wait for her to walk me out. i said fine, put on your clothes and come on. she says sit down and starts to go back to the shower. ok, by this time i am getting paranoid. and am ready to leave as soon as i can. so, i open the door and walk to the hall, not real sure of which direction is the exit. she rushed to the hall, still naked, and grabs my arm. this woman is actually trying to restrain me. at no point am i loud or beligerent. i calmly and firmly pull away. and she yells for the guy that brought me to the fish bowl. he comes, and calmly says this way sir. from then on they escort me back to the locker room and pay station as if nothing has happened.

now, i have no idea what went on. maybe someone can shed some light on this. but it was weird. and also a little scary, at least to me.[/quote]i have read here that some girls are expected to keep you for the time or it looks like you did not enjoy yourself. they also get extra money if you stay longer. they usually do this with sex not arguing however. lol

I have been dating a 25 year old massage girl for the last year when I come to shanghai. I think it is now over and I plan to write a report. I am not there yet. She wanted to marry me. I cared for her much but am married. I thought long and hard about this. Can you imagine ruining a good 26 year old marriage for a pretty young spinner that does HJ for a living? I did. As a matter of fact, I almost did it. But that is a story for another day.

Anyway, here are some things I picked up that some of you may find interesting. Many of you will say"no kidding" She worked a hotel massage places cause the money was betteras you will see.

1. Hotels make the girls pay a security deposit when they start. This deposit is incase they screw up they lose it. It can range from 500rmb to 8000 RMB.

2. Many of the hotel massage spas in house do a 80/20 (or 60/40) cut on the base massage with the girls. They are encouraged to get you to take a 2 hour massage. If they don't some hotels make them pay for the second hour. (the girls!). One hotel actuall makes some girl they pay 60 / rmb an massage to come up with 680 rmb for the lost massage! Tell me the spa's don't know what is going on in there.

3. Hotels massage girls can get customer's to pay anywhere from 500-1500 EXTRA for a HJ. These are stupid laoweis that all ready paid the 680. I guess they fear the 200rmb places or are just real horny.

4. Some places actually expect a cut of the girls "HJ tip".40% to 60% is possible. Some of the girls obviously keep some but have to claim the tip somewhat or the hotel will know she is skimming.

5. Some hotel massage girls make a kiling. 20, 000 to 25, 000 rmb a month is possible. This is just the HJ girls. The BJ girls get more. They need to be somewhere like longemont or Renaissance to pull this off. Not all the 5 stars will do this, but it is amazing to me how many do.

7- before she worked at hotels, she worked at a MP. Which is where we met. She would get 100rmb per massage for a 350rmb one hour massage with HJ included. You obviously got to slap a lot of monkeys to make a living at that rate.

I hope you enjoyed the tidbits.

[QUOTE=SamCan;1273046]I have read here that some girls are expected to keep you for the time or it looks like you did not enjoy yourself. They also get extra money if you stay longer. They usually do this with sex not arguing however. LOL[/QUOTE]Yes it's true. They need to keep you at least the majority of the time in the room. At the end of the session (or close to the end of the session) they will call and talk to the operator, and the girl will pass the phone to you and ask if you were satisfied with the service. If you did not, the girl doesn't get the money, and you'll prob never see her ever again. But if you can't speak Mandarin for nuts, then they might just skip the customer survey thing. However they will still keep you for the time.

The whole time you get is for one shot only. And since you don't have your wallet with you (they don't allow you to bring it in) , there's no way to negotiate for another shot (unless you can hide cash in your phone or watch or cig box or ass).

That's how it is over there. But it's good that they DO take customer surveys seriously.

[QUOTE=Equine; 1273098]Yes it's true. They need to keep you at least the majority of the time in the room. At the end of the session (or close to the end of the session) they will call and talk to the operator, and the girl will pass the phone to you and ask if you were satisfied with the service. If you did not, the girl doesn't get the money, and you'll prob never see her ever again. But if you can't speak Mandarin for nuts, then they might just skip the customer survey thing. However they will still keep you for the time.

The whole time you get is for one shot only. And since you don't have your wallet with you (they don't allow you to bring it in) , there's no way to negotiate for another shot (unless you can hide cash in your phone or watch or cig box or ass).

That's how it is over there. But it's good that they DO take customer surveys seriously.[/QUOTE]It is possible to get two shots without paying extra.

[QUOTE=Carage;1273202]It is possible to get two shots without paying extra.[/QUOTE]I often get two pops but I also skip the soapy bit and I usually repeat with the same few girls

Hi guys!

I'm a newbie here. I'm currently in Shanghai for business and thinking to use one of the escort agency. Can you guys recommend a decent one for me? I've been searching around the internet and found some but not sure which one to trust?

Thanks so much for your help in advance.

Just a little North of Yan An road, you can't miss it. This place had many of the hallmarks of a promising place, at least for a good HE if not more. Shower in the room, locks on the door to the room, picture of topless girl on the wall. Good price for an oil massage: 158. But. The girls were hanging out on the sofas in the front, none very attractive and all in jeans. I can deal with the not so attractive, but the jeans usually mean the clothes stay on.

Polite girl from Sichuan, older, maybe 40. Decent massage, and some encouraging contact. Pushed her boobs and crotch against my head during the back massage. But every time I Roamed a bit, even a little under her shirt, she pushed away good naturedly.

Gave a HE without asking for a tip, but it wasn't worth it.

[QUOTE=Tedtaz9399; 1273337]Hi guys!

I'm a newbie here. I'm currently in Shanghai for business and thinking to use one of the escort agency. Can you guys recommend a decent one for me? I've been searching around the internet and found some but not sure which one to trust?[/QUOTE]You will not get a good recommendation here in the forum, I think. First in Manhattan Club all girls are half price from the escort agencies here in Shanghai. Second a lot of saunas offer a reliable service for a reasonable price, so if someone know the scene in Shanghai, he will think there is a better way to have fun than meet a escort.

What you can expect from a escort agency:

- Don`t expect a real "escort" experience. All agencies only offer a simple hotel "massage service" sure with full service, but not with girl friend experience (= come to your hotel, charge as much as possible, leave as fast as possible). If you look for someone also will go out with you, don`t waste your time with escort agencies.

- The pictures will never be true (even they advertise with "100% real picture"). For our page we checked a lot of agencies and ALL used faked pictures. Just check with google picture search, and you will find out where they have stolen it. We cooperate with the page page.

[url]www.private-escort-shanghai.com[/url]

At least Jolin, Jasmin and Lily on this page use real pictures (this girls I checked and met already for myself). Another "real" girl I know for myself is Candy from our page:

[url]http://www.shanghai-nightlife-guide.com/shanghai-escort-girls/independent-escort-shanghai-private-girls/high-class-candy/.[/url]

Her service is not cheap, but at least she will not go on negotiation and also not try to rise up the price, I think. But this girls are the only girls I found in 2 years in Shanghai who use real picture and where you will get what you selected before!

- The agency normally will agree a rate on the phone (sometimes very low) , but when the girls show up, they will try a hard upselling, so final price for a short time will not be lower than 1000 to 1500 (for this you can get a overnight from Manhattan girls or two sessions in a sauna). For longer time you will have to pay 2000 to 3000 RMB, so also same you spend for two girls in Manhattan for overnight!

- Definitly don`t trust any ad on craigslist or similar ad page, because all private girls there (and I mean ALL) use faked pictures, most of them are agencies, so you will have a 0, 01 % chance to get what you selected!

To all the Bro's out there who might like to visit Nantong (about 1. 5hours drive from Shanghai (Pudong) airport.

Nantong is a lovely place. Warm, beautiful and well worth a visit if you are over in Shanghai.

I went there for business and I am lucky enough to have a good Chinese friend who lives there.

We went out for dinner and then to a KTV (5 of us)

We did the usual flower street and we all picked a girl and went to the KTV room.

The DJ said she would do a strip for us later on. Which worried us a little because she was pig-ugly and about 45 years old!

As the night went on it became apparent that NONE of our chosen girls were going to leave the KTV and come back to the hotel. It was because we

Were all 'westerners' and their perceived opinion was that we were too 'well-endowed' (a common mis-conception in China)

Anyway, as the night went on the DJ (and a 'friend' of hers) stripped off completely while dancing to some hideous music.

NONE of us asked them to do this!

The DJ was a complete 'pig' and her 'friend'. Well. Nice body, shame about the face!

At the end of the night (when all girls said they would not accompany us to the hotel) , we asked for the bill and we were hit with an extra RMB1500!

We asked why and we were told that it was the fee for the strip-tease we had NOT asked for!

To be brutally honest, I reckon we would happily have paid it for them NOT to take off their clothes. But here we all were, locked in an argument for about an hour!

There was no-way they were going to budge so we ended up paying it. Totally RUINED the night! My Chinese friend had a screaming match with the KTV owner but he was not going to budge either.

I wish I could remember the name of the KTV (but I will find out and let you know) so you can totally AVOID this place at all costs!

During that trip (for business) I was in China for 8 nights and flew all over the place. Just living out of a suitcase. 1 night here. 2 nights there. Etc etc etc.

Not ONE girl would come back to the hotel. No matter what city / town we were all in. Westerners have big swinging monsters. At least as far as

They were concerned.

Funny that, because my wife reckons it don't touch the sides. LOL!

Have Fun

[QUOTE=Shanghai Guide; 1273432]You will not get a good recommendation here in the forum, I think. First in Manhattan Club all girls are half price from the escort agencies here in Shanghai. Second a lot of saunas offer a reliable service for a reasonable price, so if someone know the scene in Shanghai, he will think there is a better way to have fun than meet a escort.[/QUOTE]I would agree with most of the comments above. If you haven't visited sauna you should. For in-calls I think the services provided by this agency is fairly reasonable. Perhaps others can chime in if they have tried.

[url]unforgettableshanghai.blog.com[/url]

I tried a few times, and price is 1000 + taxi for short time (goes down to 800 + taxi after 3 times) and 1800 + taxi for overnight, no upsell in services perhaps because girls didn't speak English. TianTian is a very cute one.

Well boys, all I can say is that I really pity all you fellows who spend hundreds or even thousands of RMB on massage parlor girls, Craigslist escorts, KTV hostesses or club sluts.

I've been in China a long time now and have relied on hair salon girls this entire time. Average price per pop: 50-100 RMB.

When I moved to Shanghai a few months ago I was worried that I couldn't find any cheap hair salons and that I would have to go high-class, which is why I first posted on ISG.

But after just a short time, I found a backstreet hair salon that I now frequent about once a week. The woman who works there is about 35, she's not beautiful but she's average, she has a great little body, she kisses, she lets me eat her out and go bareback. 100 RMB for 30 minutes.

And this Shanghai hair salon lady sucks compared with what I've gotten in 3rd-tier towns: cute 18 year-old country girls who give BBBJ and bareback sex for only 50 RMB!

Meanwhile, you guys are throwing down 10x that amount just for handjobs? Unbelievable.

The reason these lame escorts continue to rip you off is because you keep going back to them!

Anyhow, I just want to inspire my fellow Shanghai mongers to look beyond the glitz of downtown, and remind you that your repeat business with escorts and massage parlors is only jacking up the price on yourself.

i know there's not many mongers here into rep001, but just thought i'd follow up on my own post about rep001 in shanghai. a couple months ago i posted on craigslist seeking rep001, and another monger who also had a rep001 fetish replied to me and kindly introduced me to his usual rep001 girl. she was about 40, from north china and slightly pudgy, but she had a pretty face, big tits and shaved pussy. i think she's one of those pro girls who works manhattan's at night. anyhow, she was nice and we met at her hotel room. she asked for 2, 000 rmb up front, but i knew from the cl dude that she was honest and provided good service. it's the most that i've ever paid in china for a girl, but only a fraction of what they cost in japan, so i decided to go for it. we fooled around for a while (oral, etc.) , then true to her word she shat. originally i was going to let her shit into my mouth, but i decided to experiment and instead fed her own shit to her. surprisingly, she chewed it and swallowed it with gusto! when the hard stuff was finished, out came a stream of diarrhea. i filled it into my hand then poured it into her mouth. she had no problem swallowing it. what a pro! after she was empty, i fucked her shitty asshole and came inside her. then we took a shower together and got all cleaned up.

now here's where it gets weird:

i saw her again the following month, paid 2, 000, fooled around, etc. but while i was licking her ass i noticed it smelled like chocolate! i didn't say anything, but i stuck my finger into her ass and pulled out what might have been shit but seemed instead to be melted chocolate! after our session i went to clean the hotel sheets, i noticed that the leftover "shit" had turned into dry flakes. it was then that i realized it really was chocolate! i never said anything because i didn't want her to lose face, but i suspect she either was empty and couldn't produce, or didn't want to eat her own shit this time, so she tried to trick me by filling her ass with chocolate. i don't think i'll ever again in my life have such a bizarre experience.

that's the end of my rep001 experience in china. now that i've tried it, i'm bored and no longer interested. plus it is too expensive a habit to continue. but i hope this post will help future rep001 fetish mongers in china; rep001 girls do exist, but beware of scammers!

[quote=oldchinahand; 1247079]hi,

i've been living in asia for a good long while now, including many years in china.

i also spent some time in tokyo, where i experimented with rep001 play.

please don't judge me; i'm a "normal" guy, but have found pleasure in trying new and unusual things, no matter how odd.

anyhow, japanese girls truly know how to turn even the most disgusting bodily function into a highly sensual experience.

so now that i am back in china, i wanted to see if there were any girls that offer rep001 service in shanghai, where i have just relocated to for the first time.

i have emailed a few shanghai craigslist girls, but so far no response (understandably).

i am aware that chinese girls are vastly different than japanese girls; i am not trying to replicate japanese service, and don't wish to turn this into a c vs. j debate.

i simply want to see if any chinese girls in shanghai are into rep001 play.

private message okay if you don't want to share your info publicly.

thanks in advance.

p. s. as i said, i am new to shanghai, so i am unfamiliar with the street names, neighborhoods, clubs etc.[/quote]

[QUOTE=OldChinaHand;1274178]Now here's where it gets weird:[/QUOTE]That is the understatement of the year (at least)!

[QUOTE=Bonzo1;1274245]That is the understatement of the year (at least)![/QUOTE]Thanks for the report old China. Definately not my thing, but if it worked for you. Good on ya.

Sam

[quote=oldchinahand; 1274178]. now here's where it gets weird:

i don't think i'll ever again in my life have such a bizarre experience.

that's the end of my rep001 experience in china. now that i've tried it, i'm bored and no longer interested. plus it is too expensive a habit to continue. but i hope this post will help future rep001 fetish mongers in china; rep001 girls do exist, but beware of scammers![/quote]what was the bizarre experience? being fooled by her? go imagine if you'd chosen the first option: you tasting her outcome. the most expensive chocolate of your life.

knowing the tendency of the chinese to fake everything i am sure it was not belgian's

i went to sh for a week. i ended up there on a saturday night and just came back today. wow! i tried a sauna and a independent.

the sauna was fucking awsome. called the merrylin in pudong. 3rd floor, across from the intercontinental where i was staying. i went in, had a shower, got dressed and was taken to a waiting room. i chilled with the news and some water and a few smokes for 20 min and was taken to the fishbowl. there were 10-12 women there. few were chubby ones, not good looking at all. 4-6 ratings. there were a couple that were stunning. 888 and 881. i went back and forth. 888 was tall and had the sexy librarian glasses. tall, skinny, nice rack. 881 was shorter. both had great figures. no belly flab. 9/10! 881 came out at took me to a room. i asked for the soapy and i got the soapy. fuck me, to have those tits the size of grapefruits sliding up and down over my body was. you know. then she did a little bit of attention to my little friend with those tits. soon as she started using her bush on my shaft i was in trouble. amazing. we covered up and proceeded to the bed. she's a real trooper. knew her stuff and played the role. she was big on the eye contact and making the customor feel special. good act. made it a little more personal rather than a business transaction. we shared a smoke after the deed. about 1hour later. she escorted me back to the waiting room where i was met by a little minx in a qipao, who spent the next 20 minutes cleaning my ears and flirting. of course, she has to crawl all over me to do it. under her qipao, no underwear. no touching though, but i'd choose her next time if she is available. after that, a foot massage from third girl who like to talk too much.

as for the independent, i found an add for a girl on friday night, and asked for her to come over. it was not the same girl. not good looking, but nice body, and willing. i had set up my computer to record everything, so have that as a memory. she tried to get me to pay 3000 rmb for a photo, so i was happy to steal the video. quality is ok, but nothing special. she was appropriatly slutty and did all sorts of naughty things for half an hour or so. when the deed was done, she was gone and i was free to go back to the sauna for round 2.

that was similar to above, but 888, with an oil massage. the experience was not as memorable, as the first time was a such a surprise.

[QUOTE=OldChinaHand;1274178]Now here's where it gets weird:[/QUOTE]You reckon that's the only bit that's weird!

Just spent about two weeks in Shanghai and have several things to report. (I) I tried calling Helen and friends for an in-room massage. The service got good reviews on the "other board." However, when I spoke to Helen, the posted charges on the internet all got much higher. Figuring the upsell started before the girl even arrived, I said never mind and moved on. (ii) I went to Manhattan several times. The girls there were quite aggressive and primarily very cheap looking Viets. I prefer the Philly's or Thais but I could not find any. Conversation was brief and just wanted to go back. Not finding anyone interesting, I left. Be careful there as well because I struck up a convo with a very hot LB without realizing it for awhile. There aren't many there but be forewarned (unless of course that's your thing). (iii) Had an oil massage at the 24hour massage place on Yuyuan right near the Paramount dance club. The girl was quite cute, about 24 yo, but did not speak any English. The rooms are very nice and have a decent shower in each room. The price is 208 for a 1 hour oil massage. The massage was pretty good for 20 minutes, with some reaching around and playing with the boys and massaging the butt crack. Unfortunately, the flip was after 20 minutes and then she tried to upsell for topless, which I did not agree to. A mechanical HE ensued. I showered and left. It would have been a good experience if they gave me close to the full hour but it was much abbreviated. (iv) Went to Malone's several times. Great Philly band that's been there for 10 years. The women are Chinese and some are older than the Manhattan crowd. They are not as aggressive and generally friendly. Prices vary depending on the age of the girl and the time of night. I did not find any one of interest but there is certainly a nice selection. Also, several people asked about black women, and I saw at least 2-3 every night. They did not seem very popular though so I think they would negotiate a good price for ST or LT. (v) Finally, I met a girl who knows a few policemen and she said that the reason the hotels ask for I'd for the girl is not to trap the guest but to protect the guest. The I'd goes into the computer which is linked to the police station and if the girl is wanted for anything, they can pick her up. Also, the girls know that if something is stolen from the room, the hotel knows who she is and will contact the police.

In sum, Shanghai is no longer the mongering heaven it was 5 years ago. Prices have risen and quality has declined. For example, the oil massages used to be 118 RMB, now they are 208.

Happy hunting, AL

I have visited Manhattan many times in recent weeks, I spoke with many girls, the majority, I would say 90, comes from Vietnam, they are there for a month and returns home for the visa, many returning several times.

Beyond price, there are few that are interesting, the conversations are limited, but we do not come here to seek the love of his life, just to pull a fat woman and replace her by a young girl fresh.

On price, I never paid more than 1000, the daughter often asked in 1500 and 1000 to go down very quickly, if it is late at night you can still go down if the girl is determined to get cash every night. May 1000 is for ST sparfois they stay all night if they feel welcome and I feel confident, then there is no rule, if the girl asks me I say ok you can stay all night, and often it's going really well. Once she asked me for more time from when it was she who wanted to stay, good nothing bad.

I even found one in Hanoi during a business trip, we had exchanged our phone number in Shanghai and she wanted to see me there, it was nice since most of the way but prostitute becomes my girlfriend for a while.

For against this bar is sometimes annoying, always the same band, same music, the same girls who have been there for months, one could imagine more conversations before thinking about kissing, éventullement find a nice girl who does that an obsession to be a big money in one night, okay. Here any overflowing grease can make a girl young and frisky one night and forgetting the fat woman who is waiting at home.

I want to Shanghai a place like Manhattan but with a majority Chinese e, I have not found, M2 and 88 girls are too attached to their pants with tons of old rmb balanced by the fortunate Chinese, then I can not fight, yet there are some beauties with which I would like to spend a few hours or more. But I never found this place. So I am condemned to fuck me in Vietnamese. What a life.

[QUOTE=AsianLover; 1274613]Just spent about two weeks in Shanghai and have several things to report. (I) I tried calling Helen and friends for an in-room massage. The service got good reviews on the "other board." However, when I spoke to Helen, the posted charges on the internet all got much higher. Figuring the upsell started before the girl even arrived, I said never mind and moved on. (ii) I went to Manhattan several times. The girls there were quite aggressive and primarily very cheap looking Viets. I prefer the Philly's or Thais but I could not find any. Conversation was brief and just wanted to go back. Not finding anyone interesting, I left. Be careful there as well because I struck up a convo with a very hot LB without realizing it for awhile. There aren't many there but be forewarned (unless of course that's your thing). (iii) Had an oil massage at the 24hour massage place on Yuyuan right near the Paramount dance club. The girl was quite cute, about 24 yo, but did not speak any English. The rooms are very nice and have a decent shower in each room. The price is 208 for a 1 hour oil massage. The massage was pretty good for 20 minutes, with some reaching around and playing with the boys and massaging the butt crack. Unfortunately, the flip was after 20 minutes and then she tried to upsell for topless, which I did not agree to. A mechanical HE ensued. I showered and left. It would have been a good experience if they gave me close to the full hour but it was much abbreviated. (iv) Went to Malone's several times. Great Philly band that's been there for 10 years. The women are Chinese and some are older than the Manhattan crowd. They are not as aggressive and generally friendly. Prices vary depending on the age of the girl and the time of night. I did not find any one of interest but there is certainly a nice selection. Also, several people asked about black women, and I saw at least 2-3 every night. They did not seem very popular though so I think they would negotiate a good price for ST or LT. (v) Finally, I met a girl who knows a few policemen and she said that the reason the hotels ask for I'd for the girl is not to trap the guest but to protect the guest. The I'd goes into the computer which is linked to the police station and if the girl is wanted for anything, they can pick her up. Also, the girls know that if something is stolen from the room, the hotel knows who she is and will contact the police.

In sum, Shanghai is no longer the mongering heaven it was 5 years ago. Prices have risen and quality has declined. For example, the oil massages used to be 118 RMB, now they are 208.

Happy hunting, AL[/QUOTE]Nice report. Unfortunately it seems that Manhattan is not anymore the place to go to be sure to get a good experience.

From what you write it will actually be the best to "check" a new girls into the room every night.

For me I do not care, but what do you and others mongers think. The girls won't like it I guess?

And what about the hotels. Do they care?

I'm an in a generally WG friendly hotel.

Went to Bodi on a recent Saturday. Overall great experience. One disappointment was that when I was led to my selection, I was the third one in line to get there. Two Chinese guys in front of me picked the one really hot stunner in the lineup. There were only about 8 girls there so I was only left the choice of 6. On top of that it was in a hallway and it was pretty dark. Is this normal or was it just that busy?

I was happy with my choice and at the end the girl pulled a piece of paper out of the drawer and wrote down her name and phone number. Is she looking for outside work or is that a standard way to get me to come back to Bodi?

[QUOTE=Stegram; 1275564]There were only about 8 girls there so I was only left the choice of 6. On top of that it was in a hallway and it was pretty dark. Is this normal or was it just that busy?

I was happy with my choice and at the end the girl pulled a piece of paper out of the drawer and wrote down her name and phone number. Is she looking for outside work or is that a standard way to get me to come back to Bodi?[/QUOTE]Shanghai saunas and KTVs are mostly busy during the weekdays, and less busy during the weekends. This is because many of the men in Shanghai work and screw around during the weekday nights, and during the weekends they spend time with wifey and kids. Many men work in Shanghai during the weekdays and the weekends they go home.

Hence, these places are busier during the week and quieter during the weekend. It's with this reason that many girls do not work on the weekends.

If the girl gave you her number, you're almost guaranteed that she is hoping that you'll arrange a private session with her at another occasion.

[QUOTE=Gokoxen; 1274944]Nice report. Unfortunately it seems that Manhattan is not anymore the place to go to be sure to get a good experience.

From what you write it will actually be the best to "check" a new girls into the room every night.

For me I do not care, but what do you and others mongers think. The girls won't like it I guess?

And what about the hotels. Do they care?

I'm an in a generally WG friendly hotel.[/QUOTE]I disagree. You can't generalize one report. I lived in Shanghai from 2007 to 2011 and keep visiting abot twice a year.

The girls change a lot and prices too. If you are there on the wrong weekend you are just unlucky. If you live there you just party for that night.

And come back next week. I still pay between 800 and 1500 depending on the girl, about 80% of the time I get the GFE I want.

Best example was last Christmas, Total buyers market because most of the girls didn't know the most expats go home for the holidays.

Totaly different feeling in this meatmarket when you are the meat.

Dear all of you. After lots of asian, I need something else. Where would I find Africans, South Americans and Russian?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Bionicman;1274378]Knowing the tendency of the Chinese to fake everything I am sure it was not belgian's[/QUOTE]Hillarious!

Maybe she took the expression "Hershey Highway" all too serious!

Levitian

Having recently discovered "Teritary" near Zhaojiabang road I would love to compare notes with other regulars.

Are any of the ladies particularly recommendable?

On my first trip there I had no. 110. Body was so-so but she made up for it with good service, stripping with hardly any persuasion needed and giving a good nice HJ. Damage was 168 to the house and 200 for her.

[QUOTE=Emzchi; 1276008]Dear all of you. After lots of asian, I need something else. Where would I find Africans, South Americans and Russian?

Thanks[/QUOTE]Clubs, Muse etc. But not sure they are real working girls the Russian are usually models, the africans not sre what they are doing, barely see any SA.

Better to take a 2 hour flight to HK or Macao.

[QUOTE=Emzchi; 1276008]Dear all of you. After lots of asian, I need something else. Where would I find Africans, South Americans and Russian?

Thanks[/QUOTE]I saw an African lady over a Judy's once, this girl was built & stacked. Whoa, some real curves!

Best of luck

Hello!

Looking forward to my first trip to Shanghai for business. Will have plenty of time for some fun so will be reading the board steadily till I leave next week. Have been to Thailand and Angeles City but this will be the first time to China. Thanks for all the great reports!

A quick update on a couple places near GM.

1) JinYu Road, Bldg. 2, Suite 917. Was told by a local massage available there, went and was turned down, so maybe locals only.

2) Jinxiu Road, round the corner from Starbucks:

Chose the 60min oil at RMB258.

Room was enormous, shower could hold 20 easily. Massage area is a bed.

Only papasan (young guy) speaks English.

Was given a mid 20's, fairly good looking girl wearing jean shorts.

20 mins of rubbing, way too much on my stomach (almost lost my lunch) , she pops the question for HJ. I pointed to her pussy and she indicated she didn't fuck, but another girl did. Other girl comes in, hot early 20's spinner, quoted me 'one, yellow, yellow, yellow'. Wanting to clarify, I countered with 300, then she explained with her hands 1, 000. At that point, I realized there was no point to bargain, so I very heartily laughed at her. Both stood there bemused for a minute until I told them bye bye and motioned for both to leave.

Showered, dressed, paid the 258 and left still laughing.

[QUOTE=Mike921; 1276999]quoted me 'one, yellow, yellow, yellow'.

Wanting to clarify, I countered with 300, then she explained with her hands 1, 000. At that point, I realized there was no point to bargain, so I very heartily laughed at her. Both stood there bemused for a minute until I told them bye bye and motioned for both to leave.[/QUOTE]Very amusing in the manner which you described it and I too continued laughing after you mentioned you left laughing!

[QUOTE=Mike921; 1276999]A quick update on a couple places near GM.

1) JinYu Road, Bldg. 2, Suite 917. Was told by a local massage available there, went and was turned down, so maybe locals only.

2) Jinxiu Road, round the corner from Starbucks:

Chose the 60min oil at RMB258.

Room was enormous, shower could hold 20 easily. Massage area is a bed.

Only papasan (young guy) speaks English.

Was given a mid 20's, fairly good looking girl wearing jean shorts.

20 mins of rubbing, way too much on my stomach (almost lost my lunch) , she pops the question for HJ. I pointed to her pussy and she indicated she didn't fuck, but another girl did. Other girl comes in, hot early 20's spinner, quoted me 'one, yellow, yellow, yellow'. Wanting to clarify, I countered with 300, then she explained with her hands 1, 000. At that point, I realized there was no point to bargain, so I very heartily laughed at her. Both stood there bemused for a minute until I told them bye bye and motioned for both to leave.

Showered, dressed, paid the 258 and left still laughing.[/QUOTE]They probably had before some suckers accepting this price and now think all laoweis should accept it. That's how prices get spoiled.

[QUOTE=Mike921;1276999]At that point, I realized there was no point to bargain, so I very heartily laughed at her.[/QUOTE]Prices are indeed getting ridiculous : nowadays the standard xiao fei for a HJ is 300, which can usually be negotiated down to 200, but still. Not long ago I could convince the specialists to accept 100, seems a rarity now. The other day I went to a SPA on Yinchung Road opposite the Renaissance hotel (yeahh, five star place so ditto price expectations) mainly due to the cute spinner I saw when earlier walking by. However, when I finally decided to go in it turned out that she a) is not that good looking as my casual walking by observation suggested and worse be) she is the cashier not a specialist. So I had to settle for less sinec I did not want to leave loaded given the late hour. The massage 2hrs for 400 was good, but then the hated price negotiation came up : 300 for HJ and 500 for a tittie job. When I pointed out that for 580 I can get FS in a nice sauna (Sacrosa, but did not mention this name though) , she seemed unimpressed, fully convinced of her own precious beauty and specialist skills. Since I already expected this I agreed for the first time this high amount, just to bring things to full completion. Anyway, the release was very satisfying, she was surprised that I let her caress LB for almost 45 min (I like near death experiences.). But got tired of the repeated hard sell of the VIP card (discount min 20%) and decided never to return. Case closed, but still looking for a good HJ massage for reasonable prices. Cheers.

So there is a street a live by here in Zhabei with a ton of BBS places I've seen from readding posts, but what is the sure tell it is a BBS and not a salon?

[QUOTE=Loki484;1277289]So there is a street a live by here in Zhabei with a ton of BBS places I've seen from readding posts, but what is the sure tell it is a BBS and not a salon?[/QUOTE]Hmmmm, for me, provocatively dressed (stockings, evening dresses, mini-skirts, etc.) women sitting in the window is always a good indication. Remember, that even a place which appears to be a salon most likely has a 'back room' for private activities. Good hunting!

Was in Shanghai for one night. Stayed in Shanghong Merrylin hotel Pudong. Arrived in hotel at about 6 pm. Have quick bites and went to the sauna on third floor at about 7 pm. After a quick shower, I was led to the fishbow. There were about 15 girls. I told the papasan that I like good oral work. He rcommended 827 from Sichun with a pair of big boob. Went into a room with waterbed. The room is spacious. Th service on the waterbed was great. She suggest we fuck on the waterbed which I have never tried bofore. It feels different an I came rather fast. Then we onto the bed, she gave me a good massage.

Hen the time is up, I went to the rest room with big chair. A girl cam in and offered a massage and ear cleanning for 80 RMBb. During the massage, she try to get you arose by touching the littler broth in a vey gentle way. I thought it is good if I had this massage to build up he tension before the fuck. I will try this first in my next visit.

Total amage 880+80.

JB

I will be in Shanghai all week and next weekend, I would like to meet up with like-minded bro's for some mongering. Potentially share a girl, or multiple girls?

I've done my fair share of travel so have been through the routine spa's, sauna's and escorts, have had the multi-girl experience. Am interested in the off-the-beaten-track experiences. Parties, group sessions, etc. With new people can be a good time.

This is my first time in Shanghai, so I'm hoping to meet new friends who know the city's secrets!

I look forward to hearing back and making new friends.

D

Why don't you walk into one or two or three and see what you are offered. They won't bite you. At least not right away and you could be surprised. Go ahead. Try it.

[QUOTE=Loki484;1277289]So there is a street a live by here in Zhabei with a ton of BBS places I've seen from readding posts, but what is the sure tell it is a BBS and not a salon?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Stegram;1275564]I was happy with my choice and at the end the girl pulled a piece of paper out of the drawer and wrote down her name and phone number. Is she looking for outside work or is that a standard way to get me to come back to Bodi?[/QUOTE]It's more usual for them to give out their number so you can check when she's working back at bodi but it's also possible she is looking for outside work. A few times when I've been given their number I ask if they will come to my hotel but they have refused and told me it's just to make sure I could book her again. But I'm sure you'll eventually find some that will. Massage girls it's much easier. Quote often they won't be able or willing to do FS in the oil massage place but will if they meet you at your hotel.

[QUOTE=Danniboy; 1277776]I will be in Shanghai all week and next weekend, I would like to meet up with like-minded bro's for some mongering. Potentially share a girl, or multiple girls?

I've done my fair share of travel so have been through the routine spa's, sauna's and escorts, have had the multi-girl experience. Am interested in the off-the-beaten-track experiences. Parties, group sessions, etc. With new people can be a good time.

This is my first time in Shanghai, so I'm hoping to meet new friends who know the city's secrets!

I look forward to hearing back and making new friends.

D[/QUOTE]You have to become a member to receive messages here.

Fellow Mongers,

I am an occasional traveller to China. Have posted many field reports on Shanghai and Guangzhou with photos. Need some help on Red Rope services active in shanghai. Tried RTFF but I don't know which one is active now. Guys help me out. I am just staying for 2 nights. Please help me with location. Thank you guys.

SM

[QUOTE=Sony Man; 1278485]Fellow Mongers,

Need some help on Red Rope services active in shanghai. Tried RTFF but I don't know which one is active now. Guys help me out. I am just staying for 2 nights. Please help me with location. Thank you guys.

SM[/QUOTE]At the moment the hai lang (new wave) sauna definitly offer this service, but you have to ask, because not every room is prepared for that (and also not every girl is willing to do red rope any more.

Have fun and enjoy

[QUOTE=Shanghai Guide; 1278651]At the moment the hai lang (new wave) sauna definitly offer this service, but you have to ask, because not every room is prepared for that (and also not every girl is willing to do red rope any more.

Have fun and enjoy[/QUOTE]What's wrong with red rope? Why aren't the girls willing to do it anymore?

[QUOTE=Equine;1279003]What's wrong with red rope? Why aren't the girls willing to do it anymore?[/QUOTE]"Red rope" is not without risk, similar to an acrobatic show, neither for the performer, nor for the customer.

I experienced 2 girls crashing, one on my belly, which was pretty painful, and the other one fell down on the bed and nearly broke her nose.

Besides, it is actually pretty silly, I never really enjoyed it, at least, not the "red rope" BJ.

Levitian

Red rope is mostly a novelty. Some girls don't do it, either can't or won't. And it is risky for both. The BJ isn't that good, in my view when she's on the ropes. And the fucking isn't good either, from my experience. I like a girl who knows how to blow a dick and fuck me silly. Soapy about the same. Good tongue and lip action with the blow job and a pussy that can work your dick. And if she says 'fuck me' while I'm fucking her, and she means it, and yes, there is a difference, I'm a happy camper.

[QUOTE=Levitian; 1279190]"Red rope" is not without risk, similar to an acrobatic show, neither for the performer, nor for the customer.

I experienced 2 girls crashing, one on my belly, which was pretty painful, and the other one fell down on the bed and nearly broke her nose.

Besides, it is actually pretty silly, I never really enjoyed it, at least, not the "red rope" BJ.

Levitian[/QUOTE]

In recent weeks three MP's in Laoshan / Weifang LU area were given 3 month closure orders after irregularities were discovered. Girls from Classical were carried off and interrogated black and blue, then released. One poor girl, on recovery moved on to the MP opposite Marriot courtyard, which was hit 2 days ago, she remains incarcerated. Only clients involved were undercover LE. Some nervous ladies in town at present!

Last Saturday I went to Merrylin. One Fellow Monger mentioned Number 827 in his report. She is good choice when you like real good natural Tits. Face is normal. Attitute is professionel but never the less very good. Little bit chubby but in the right places. We had some good conversation in Chinese. She gave me a Soapy massage with her wonderful big Tits. Very relaxed experience. She is worth a recommendation.

I have to spend few days and nights over the next weeks in Taicang. I RTFF but couldn't find any information. Does anyone can give some advice on BBS or MP with FS?

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Fuzimiao;1280465]In recent weeks three MP's in Laoshan / Weifang LU area were given 3 month closure orders after irregularities were discovered. Girls from Classical were carried off and interrogated black and blue, then released. One poor girl, on recovery moved on to the MP opposite Marriot courtyard, which was hit 2 days ago, she remains incarcerated. Only clients involved were undercover LE. Some nervous ladies in town at present![/QUOTE]What kind of irregularities, I mean it is clear to all that HE is / was offered there. By the way when I passed by the closed shops, one shop opened its doors and the girls (sitting in the dark) waved me in. Since I was already warned by my regular SPA girl who lives nearby but works in a different shop, I just walked on. Seems the WG all know about it. Too bad though since the shops are very nice (lobby at least) and the girls look quite attractive. Hope LE does not treat them too harshly though. One last thought : these shops (there are some 5 of them next / opposite each other, like a cluster) were not exactly low key operations : large and brightly lit with one neon light saying "let's together massage.". Yeahh, let's roll.

Girls are still plentyfull in Manhattan. Some nice one. Took a viet for three night. Each night was getting better and better GFE. Would have kept going if I did not have to leave town

[QUOTE=Firebird;1281312]Girls are still plentyfull in Manhattan. Some nice one. Took a viet for three night. Each night was getting better and better GFE. Would have kept going if I did not have to leave town[/QUOTE]Do you remember her name?

[QUOTE=Joejoe007;1281330]Do you remember her name?[/QUOTE]Manhattans is full of Viets. Go do some mongering! I am sure if you get out, you will find something you like.

[QUOTE=Changlelu;1281121]What kind of irregularities, I mean it is clear to all that HE is / was offered there. By the way when I passed by the closed shops, one shop opened its doors and the girls (sitting in the dark) waved me in. Since I was already warned by my regular SPA girl who lives nearby but works in a different shop, I just walked on. Seems the WG all know about it. Too bad though since the shops are very nice (lobby at least) and the girls look quite attractive. Hope LE does not treat them too harshly though. One last thought : these shops (there are some 5 of them next / opposite each other, like a cluster) were not exactly low key operations : large and brightly lit with one neon light saying "let's together massage.". Yeahh, let's roll.[/QUOTE]If a girl admits giving a HJ, she will be detained from 15 days to 6 months, the MP owner, possibly a large fine and / or closure. As you say, a pity, these MP's are classy places, Classical had just completed a total rebuild. :-(

Fz

[QUOTE=Fuzimiao; 1281544]If a girl admits giving a HJ, she will be detained from 15 days to 6 months, the MP owner, possibly a large fine and / or closure. As you say, a pity, these MP's are classy places, Classical had just completed a total rebuild. .

Fz[/QUOTE]Ok, with undercover LE being offered HJ by the girls, they are done, however, what about us if we are in the SPA during a raid. Either we are still getting the normal massage (is not illegal right?) or we are getting the HJ which can easily be stopped without any evidence (no condom etc). I think the risk is that a foreign monger panics in front of LE and admits (or is forced to admit, remember China is not a democratic rule of law place.) that he was getting a HJ. They could employ a trick and say that the girl had confessed to give/offer a HJ so seeting you up and that you better confess in order to receive leniency, that way you are done even if the girl has denied everything (so-called prisioners dilemma). So, I think whenever there is a raid you should always deny the HJ part, just state that you are receiving a regular massage. In a sauna however, things are more complicated (presence of condoms etc). What do you think / advice.

[QUOTE=Changlelu;1281579]Ok, with undercover LE being offered HJ by the girls, they are done, however, what about us if we are in the SPA during a raid. Either we are still getting the normal massage (is not illegal right?) or we are getting the HJ which can easily be stopped without any evidence (no condom etc). I think the risk is that a foreign monger panics in front of LE and admits (or is forced to admit, remember China is not a democratic rule of law place.) that he was getting a HJ. They could employ a trick and say that the girl had confessed to give/offer a HJ so seeting you up and that you better confess in order to receive leniency, that way you are done even if the girl has denied everything (so-called prisioners dilemma). So, I think whenever there is a raid you should always deny the HJ part, just state that you are receiving a regular massage. In a sauna however, things are more complicated (presence of condoms etc). What do you think / advice.[/QUOTE]You arte still being caught in what is considered a *****house. That would be a crime back home no matter what you did or not.

Will someone tell the meaning of different abb. Used on this forum. I mean what these stand for.

HJ.

CGJ.

BBBJ.

AR.

FS.

Etc. Etc etc.

[QUOTE=Changlelu;1281579]Ok, with undercover LE being offered HJ by the girls, they are done, however, what about us if we are in the SPA during a raid. Either we are still getting the normal massage (is not illegal right?) or we are getting the HJ which can easily be stopped without any evidence (no condom etc). I think the risk is that a foreign monger panics in front of LE and admits (or is forced to admit, remember China is not a democratic rule of law place.) that he was getting a HJ. They could employ a trick and say that the girl had confessed to give/offer a HJ so seeting you up and that you better confess in order to receive leniency, that way you are done even if the girl has denied everything (so-called prisioners dilemma). So, I think whenever there is a raid you should always deny the HJ part, just state that you are receiving a regular massage. In a sauna however, things are more complicated (presence of condoms etc). What do you think / advice.[/QUOTE]You have a couple options: 1. Don't go; 2. Check with you favorite MP boss and get the low-down. If the shop is well connected, they will know about LE activity; 3. Go off site. Either to her place or yours. I prefer the latter as it leads to FS.

But it seems that the area mentioned by Fuzimiao was under scrutiny not too long ago. Maybe the local residents are complaining due to the shear number of MPs on the street near residential.

SH

[QUOTE=Trust 4; 1281821]Will someone tell the meaning of different abb. Used on this forum. I mean what these stand for.

HJ.

CGJ.

BBBJ.

AR.

FS.

Etc. Etc etc.[/QUOTE]Sure.

HJ means Howard Johnson's, now a so-so hotel franchise operation, but formerly a restaurant chain that pre-dated fast food and had great hot dogs.

CGJ means "Can't go, Joe" what the BBS girl says when she won't leave her run-down shop for your five star hotel to bang you.

BBBJ is a blow job (stuttering can be annoying sometimes)

AR is the last two letters of RE__ which is a cleaning service quite common in saunas.

FS means "Fucking silly" like some questions on these boards.

Etc, Etc, Etc. Means "and so on." very much like etc, etc, etc, or sometimes. If you use QQ.

[QUOTE=Trust 4; 1281821]Will someone tell the meaning of different abb. Used on this forum. I mean what these stand for.

HJ.

CGJ.

BBBJ.

AR.

FS.

Etc. Etc etc.[/QUOTE]Checkout the top page of the forum.

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[QUOTE=Carage; 1282082]Checkout the top page of the forum.

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[QUOTE=Carage; 1282082]Checkout the top page of the forum.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/custompages.php?pageid=custompages_abbreviations[/url][/QUOTE]Now if we can only get all the girlies to understand these, I walked into a BBS once and said.

"wo yao BBBJ" the reply was "Shenme"

[QUOTE=LaoWaiSha; 1282455]Now if we can only get all the girlies to understand these, I walked into a BBS once and said.

"wo yao BBBJ" the reply was "Shenme"[/QUOTE]That gives me an idea, could someone translate that list of abbreviations into Chinese, like "BBBJ = *Chinese translation* " etc. That would be handy if you could just print it out and point at the service you want!

[QUOTE=Loveasiangirls;1281777]You arte still being caught in what is considered a *****house. That would be a crime back home no matter what you did or not.[/QUOTE]ALL MP's are totally legit, and have a licence to operate, it is therefore, definitely not illegal to be found in a MP. I am aware of 3 licences being suspended, however I understand that in Pudong, over 100 MP's have sufferred the same fate, according to local press.

Fz

[QUOTE=ShangHangin; 1281844]You have a couple options: 1. Don't go; 2. Check with you favorite MP boss and get the low-down. If the shop is well connected, they will know about LE activity; 3. Go off site. Either to her place or yours. I prefer the latter as it leads to FS.

SH[/QUOTE]I would like to take the girl off site, but most massage girls seem to live with a roommate (often other WG) , so how best to get around that if I can not take her to my place. Are there suitable (short stay) hotels in Shanghai where you can just go for a few hours and how to register there (in the girls name, since I do not want to leave a mongering trail and foreigners are easy targets these days). I am also looking for a way to meet the many civvies I meet daily, but I have not figured out how to do this discreetly. Any suggestions are most welcome.

PS I vaguely heard about the Motels (168 etc) but could someone please share his experiences, Thanks.

[QUOTE=Changlelu; 1282987]I would like to take the girl off site, but most massage girls seem to live with a roommate (often other WG) , so how best to get around that if I can not take her to my place. Are there suitable (short stay) hotels in Shanghai where you can just go for a few hours and how to register there (in the girls name, since I do not want to leave a mongering trail and foreigners are easy targets these days). I am also looking for a way to meet the many civvies I meet daily, but I have not figured out how to do this discreetly. Any suggestions are most welcome.

PS I vaguely heard about the Motels (168 etc) but could someone please share his experiences, Thanks.[/QUOTE]I've been to GreenTree Inns in SH a few times and received a five hour rate, around RMB130. They'll ask you for a cash room deposit of around RMB300. Good luck with getting a room registered in the girl's name. They have security concerns also.

1. My experience with short time hotels. 168 works for me. One of you has to get the room. The one who buys the room provides the I'd. You meet each other in elevator. Cells work fine here. Sometimes the elevator will not go up without the room card. About 100 to 140 rmb. Depends on the hotel. Plus a security deposit. They will check the room before the security deposit is refunded. Go figure. If you used a condom or some of the other available resources they will be deducted from the deposit. If you stained the sheets they will charge you a cleaning fee. It's just business.

2. On what you guys call raids, more like a check up. Who knows what the real reason is. This is China. I have been in the room with the girl twice when something like this happens. The lights blink on and off. The girls are prepared. You get dressed in what they gave you when you entered the establishment. They lead you to the wait room. Some guys have a smoke, others drink tea or whatever. 15 to 20 minutes later the girl or one of the guys take you back to the room. Be cool with it. The third time I had called the girl. I had an sm that said no. I got to the second floor. You guys ever notice that every establishment is not on the ground floor. And the usual guys had additional personal present who were talking with them. I returned to the elevator, took it back to street level, had a coffee, and about 30 minutes later got another sm with an OK.

3. The girls are concerned about 'security'. The security they are concerned about comes from some clients who are abusive. I have seen purple bruise marks on a girl and when I asked she just looked down and shook her head. Some of the clients are abusive. There is a dark side to this business. Their fears are not unfounded.

"I've been to GreenTree Inns in SH a few times and received a five hour rate, around RMB130. They'll ask you for a cash room deposit of around RMB300. Good luck with getting a room registered in the girl's name. They have security concerns also."

"My experience with short time hotels. 168 works for me. One of you has to get the room. The one who buys the room provides the I'd. You meet each other in elevator. Cells work fine here. Sometimes the elevator will not go up without the room card. About 100 to 140 rmb. Depends on the hotel. Plus a security deposit. They will check the room before the security deposit is refunded. Go figure. If you used a condom or some of the other available resources they will be deducted from the deposit. If you stained the sheets they will charge you a cleaning fee. It's just business."

Dear Waldeck2 & Mike 921 :

Thanks for your info, sounds like a bargain to me. But when you register and are living in China (resident visa in passport) , what home address do you provide, you make something up or provide a foreign address, I mean they can see you live in China. Just want to avoid any mistakes and be safe. Thanks for helping me to explore new frontiers....

[QUOTE=Changlelu;1283447]". But when you register and are living in China (resident visa in passport) , what home address do you provide, you make something up or provide a foreign address, I mean they can see you live in China. Just want to avoid any mistakes and be safe. Thanks for helping me to explore new frontiers.[/QUOTE]I think that whatever you out in, If they want to investigate further, they simply in out the passare number in their database and see all about it and how you got in and why you are in China. Rumours say that all hotel registrations are passed on to police. Will they check each? At random? Or just add files to files to files enriching their immense beauraucracy?

[QUOTE=Changlelu; 1283447]Dear Waldeck2 & Mike 921 :

Thanks for your info, sounds like a bargain to me. But when you register and are living in China (resident visa in passport) , what home address do you provide, you make something up or provide a foreign address, I mean they can see you live in China. Just want to avoid any mistakes and be safe. Thanks for helping me to explore new frontiers.[/QUOTE]Your resident visa in your passport is tied to the information you gave the PSB when you registered your local residential address, so the short answer is it doesn't matter what address you give the hotel because your real address is already connected on the back end.

[QUOTE=Shanghai Guide; 1273432]You will not get a good recommendation here in the forum, I think. First in Manhattan Club all girls are half price from the escort agencies here in Shanghai. Second a lot of saunas offer a reliable service for a reasonable price, so if someone know the scene in Shanghai, he will think there is a better way to have fun than meet a escort.

What you can expect from a escort agency:

- Don`t expect a real "escort" experience. All agencies only offer a simple hotel "massage service" sure with full service, but not with girl friend experience (= come to your hotel, charge as much as possible, leave as fast as possible). If you look for someone also will go out with you, don`t waste your time with escort agencies.

- The pictures will never be true (even they advertise with "100% real picture"). For our page we checked a lot of agencies and ALL used faked pictures. Just check with google picture search, and you will find out where they have stolen it. We cooperate with the page page.

[url]www.private-escort-shanghai.com[/url]

At least Jolin, Jasmin and Lily on this page use real pictures (this girls I checked and met already for myself). Another "real" girl I know for myself is Candy from our page:

[url]http://www.shanghai-nightlife-guide.com/shanghai-escort-girls/independent-escort-shanghai-private-girls/high-class-candy/.[/url]

Her service is not cheap, but at least she will not go on negotiation and also not try to rise up the price, I think. But this girls are the only girls I found in 2 years in Shanghai who use real picture and where you will get what you selected before!

- The agency normally will agree a rate on the phone (sometimes very low) , but when the girls show up, they will try a hard upselling, so final price for a short time will not be lower than 1000 to 1500 (for this you can get a overnight from Manhattan girls or two sessions in a sauna). For longer time you will have to pay 2000 to 3000 RMB, so also same you spend for two girls in Manhattan for overnight!

- Definitly don`t trust any ad on craigslist or similar ad page, because all private girls there (and I mean ALL) use faked pictures, most of them are agencies, so you will have a 0, 01 % chance to get what you selected![/QUOTE]I had a very pleasant experience with Jolin. Gorgeous woman, and very nice person. No restrictions, no time check, no rushing me to finish. Pricey a bit, but 2 full hours, and no BS. Strongly recommend. Follow the link above.

Cheers.

Sauro

[QUOTE=Bionicman;1283520]Rumours say that all hotel registrations are passed on to police. Will they check each? At random? Or just add files to files to files enriching their immense beauraucracy?[/QUOTE]I got to know the American manager at a hotel in Qingdao. She told me that the computer in the hotel was connected by modem to the police computer. Your information is sent directly and immediately to the police. What they do with it, I don't know. It could be like a lot of information in China. So much is gathered that proper analysis is impossible, but that may not be the case here. Maybe their database management immediately makes a connection to your data and alerts them that you are in a hotel.

Hadn't been to shanghai for 6 months so was happy to have a trip there. Used to live there but many of my old haunts, particulalrly the old BBS have long since gone it seems. However on arrival was happy to find Peacock (1449 Damuqiou Xietu road) still there. Pick the 1. 5 hour option and you get 20 mins of back work. 20 mins of butt and inner thighs play. 20 mins of one of the best handjobs I've had in years, especially with a girls 34Cs almost blocking my airway LOL, and then after the main event. 20 mins of girl just nicely playing with my balls. 10 mins of shower and thats a blissful 1. 5 hours. Went twice in my 3 day trip.

That place has always been good.

Did the normal Big Bamboo, Malones (only 3 girls in there?) plus some meaningless HJ in some place near Waldorf.

I did send some messages on DIA to some girls and within minutes got replies from 3 out of 4.

One gave me her rates as follows.

Hello my normal day time tour guide and interpreter service is 100 yuan with a max of 600 yuan per day work time 10 till 6 pm.

I also offer daytime + dinner companion and nightlife is 1000 yuan from noon till midnight.

I you want naughty service is 600 for 4 hours and 1000 for evening and night and 1500 for 24 hrs.

Nice organised girl!

In general I noticed how mad the traffic is, how mad the taxi drivers have become (or maybe always were) and how many more foreigners there are now in Shanghai.

As a follow up to my own report, and having made a return visit to Shanghai after 6 months absense one other highly noticable fact was that sex on the street was being offered everywhere. Went to see some work colleagues in Westin and 5 guys and 2 girls are all offering me " services".

Walked to Roosevelt Bar on Bund and sure enough every 50 metres some guy with a bad haircut and even worse English would pipe up " Mister, want massagee, want sex massagee, want blow job massagee ". One chap even came up and asked " What you want ". I replied " nothing". This confused him quite a lot LOL.

Anyways its really quite open now in whats offered on the street. Reminds me of Sri Lanka a long time ago where any guy who looked like a tourist would be offered sex outside every hotel, and on every street corner.

[QUOTE=TimCha;1282704]That gives me an idea, could someone translate that list of abbreviations into Chinese, like "BBBJ = *Chinese translation* " etc. That would be handy if you could just print it out and point at the service you want![/QUOTE]One of the earliest words I learnt in Chinese (for use in BBS encounters) was "the fei jie". It means something like " to shoot the sky".

Asking for that always bought a ready smile along with a look from the girl that seemed to say " this laowei doesn't speak Chinese but knows this phrase. Interesting"."

[url]www.shanghaimassage.biz[/url]

Just came across this. Though I am more of a sauna dude myself, I thought it looked interesting. Lots of outcall listings, though many seem to link back to other sites. Odd. Anyway, will give it a try and report.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1284794]Hadn't been to shanghai for 6 months so was happy to have a trip there. Used to live there but many of my old haunts, particulalrly the old BBS have long since gone it seems. However on arrival was happy to find Peacock (1449 Damuqiou Xietu road) still there. Pick the 1. 5 hour option and you get 20 mins of back work. 20 mins of butt and inner thighs play. 20 mins of one of the best handjobs I've had in years, especially with a girls 34Cs almost blocking my airway LOL, and then after the main event. 20 mins of girl just nicely playing with my balls. 10 mins of shower and thats a blissful 1. 5 hours. Went twice in my 3 day trip.

That place has always been good.

Did the normal Big Bamboo, Malones (only 3 girls in there?) plus some meaningless HJ in some place near Waldorf.

I did send some messages on DIA to some girls and within minutes got replies from 3 out of 4.

One gave me her rates as follows.

Hello my normal day time tour guide and interpreter service is 100 yuan with a max of 600 yuan per day work time 10 till 6 pm.

I also offer daytime + dinner companion and nightlife is 1000 yuan from noon till midnight.

I you want naughty service is 600 for 4 hours and 1000 for evening and night and 1500 for 24 hrs.

Nice organised girl!

In general I noticed how mad the traffic is, how mad the taxi drivers have become (or maybe always were) and how many more foreigners there are now in Shanghai.[/QUOTE]What did you pay at peacock?

Regards

[QUOTE=Malago; 1285332]What did you pay at peacock?

Regards[/QUOTE]I guess I quote my self.

90 min with one girl is 298rmb.

90 min with two girls is 398rmb.

That's for the massage including the prostate treatment. Then I think you add 200 for the handjob (not sure if I payed for touching the breast and stuff or for the actual hand job.

I agree it's a good place and they give good service. I got two girls #2 Cute 23year old girl with good skills and #8 was older and with big titts. Next time I think I go for just #2.

Also I think the sign outside the place states rainbow and noot peacock.

I stopped in at the massage place on North Shaanxi Road at Changping. I had been there a couple of times before and left happy. Once again going for the 268 Rmb massage, and expecting the same excellent set meal service, no upsell. Alas, it was not to be. The girl kept trying to sell me a 412 package, although it was never clear what she was going to offer for that. She seemed not to want to give me the 268 titty package I had enjoyed previously. Lots of discussion. I refused, and in the end, I came away with a HJ for 206. If anyone ever gets the 412 package, I'd like to know.

[QUOTE=Loki484;1277289]So there is a street a live by here in Zhabei with a ton of BBS places I've seen from readding posts, but what is the sure tell it is a BBS and not a salon?[/QUOTE]If it is lit by pink lights and there is no haircut equipments, it is BBS.

[quote=changlelu; 1283447]"i've been to greentree inns in sh a few times and received a five hour rate, around rmb130. they'll ask you for a cash room deposit of around rmb300. good luck with getting a room registered in the girl's name. they have security concerns also."

"my experience with short time hotels. 168 works for me. one of you has to get the room. the one who buys the room provides the i'd. you meet each other in elevator. cells work fine here. sometimes the elevator will not go up without the room card. about 100 to 140 rmb. depends on the hotel. plus a security deposit. they will check the room before the security deposit is refunded. go figure. if you used a condom or some of the other available resources they will be deducted from the deposit. if you stained the sheets they will charge you a cleaning fee. it's just business."

dear waldeck2 & mike 921 :

thanks for your info, sounds like a bargain to me. but when you register and are living in china (resident visa in passport) , what home address do you provide, you make something up or provide a foreign address, i mean they can see you live in china. just want to avoid any mistakes and be safe. thanks for helping me to explore new frontiers.[/quote]another way to get a short term place to meet up without having to go through the hassle of registration is to use bath houses.

there is a masseuse i once started seeing quite often and we decided to see each other outside of the massage parlor itself so we can "go the whole way". she is the one that suggested that we meet at a bath house. the one we went to is the "jinlyu bathouse" or something like that. it's on the yan'an service road, on the side of the street heading east from hongqiao airport, about 500m west of hongmei road. it is now under renovation, but i have seen similar bathhouses rep001tered around shanghai.

the process is that you go in to the bath house with the girl and tell them that you'll both be using the bath facilities. as long as it's not too late at night (say before 8pm or so) , they will not ask for you i'd (at least that has been my experience). they then take your shoes (so you don't run away i think has been suggested before, and sounds likely) and you go to the shower area (there is a mens' side and a womens' side). after showering you meet by the elevators and then go up to the floor where they have use by the hour rooms. they will show you to room, offer you drinks (or food, though i've never had any) and then leave you on your own. you can stay for as short or as long as you want.

once done, you go back down, take your showers in your respective locker / shower room areas and then meet at reception. pay the bill and done. no ids needed, and the price is pretty reasonable (i think my total bill comes to about 200 rmb most of the time).

hope this is helpful!

[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1284885]Anyways its really quite open now in whats offered on the street. Reminds me of Sri Lanka a long time ago where any guy who looked like a tourist would be offered sex outside every hotel, and on every street corner.[/QUOTE]This has been happening in Shanghai for at least 10 years, normally every second guy around the bund area, as the other is offering you "Hasish"

You'd get the same anywhere there were foreign faces, not just hotels.

[QUOTE=ShLax; 1286277]This has been happening in Shanghai for at least 10 years, normally every second guy around the bund area, as the other is offering you "Hasish"

You'd get the same anywhere there were foreign faces, not just hotels.[/QUOTE]Well. 4 month prior the olympics up to the expo its was a little quite. But last time I was in SH its all back to prior olympics.

Just wondering if anyone has any experience with celebrity escorts in Shanghai?

I read in the paper today that Zhang Ziyi is under investigation for sleeping with the now ousted princeling, Bo Xilai.

The newstory alleged she received 10 million RMB from Bo Xilai for her "services".

[QUOTE=Gaolei;1284709]I got to know the American manager at a hotel in Qingdao. She told me that the computer in the hotel was connected by modem to the police computer. Your information is sent directly and immediately to the police. What they do with it, I don't know. It could be like a lot of information in China. So much is gathered that proper analysis is impossible, but that may not be the case here. Maybe their database management immediately makes a connection to your data and alerts them that you are in a hotel.[/QUOTE]True.

Your visa residence permit will be scanned. Probably no true by modem. Broad band has arrived in China too.

Fact is, you have to register wherever you go. If you stay private you should register with the local police station. Bigger, western style and modern hotels do this "on line"

Just know it from where I stay. Data base will be updated every two hours. The public police office (handling your visa / residence) has access to this data. Without registration no chance to get your status changed / renewed.

If you do not have (need) contact with public police, nobody cares about your registration. Some smaller hotels in bigger cities don't even bother.

[QUOTE=Carage; 1286414]Just wondering if anyone has any experience with celebrity escorts in Shanghai?

I read in the paper today that Zhang Ziyi is under investigation for sleeping with the now ousted princeling, Bo Xilai.

The newstory alleged she received 10 million RMB from Bo Xilai for her "services".[/QUOTE]Are you kidding? Do you really know who is Zhang Ziyi? I think you're a bit naive.

[QUOTE=JmbShanghai1;1286648]Are you kidding? Do you really know who is Zhang Ziyi? I think you're a bit naive.[/QUOTE]Just google Zhang Ziyi Bo Xilai and you'll see the accusation. 46M Taiwanese dollars each time for ten get togethers in Beijing.

[QUOTE=JmbShanghai1;1286648]Are you kidding? Do you really know who is Zhang Ziyi? I think you're a bit naive.[/QUOTE]It's all over HK and TW news outlets, and this is not the first time she was involved in a sex scandal. There were scandals of her sleeping with directors like Zhang Yimou in the past.

[QUOTE=Carage;1286734]It's all over HK and TW news outlets, and this is not the first time she was involved in a sex scandal. There were scandals of her sleeping with directors like Zhang Yimou in the past.[/QUOTE]While this rather sounds like bad tabloid, fitting into the actual popular Bo bashing, there certainly is such a thing. Have a billionare Chinese friend who is claiming to have had sex with Gong Li. He booked her via a secret agency.

As I am not in the financial position to do so, I never asked for further details.

Levitian

[QUOTE=Sintrav; 1286522]True.

Your visa residence permit will be scanned. Probably no true by modem. Broad band has arrived in China too.

Fact is, you have to register wherever you go. If you stay private you should register with the local police station. Bigger, western style and modern hotels do this "on line"

Just know it from where I stay. Data base will be updated every two hours. The public police office (handling your visa / residence) has access to this data. Without registration no chance to get your status changed / renewed.

If you do not have (need) contact with public police, nobody cares about your registration. Some smaller hotels in bigger cities don't even bother.[/QUOTE]If you have a look at the machines at Front Desk of most large sized hotels, you will see they are scanner with fax, the receptionist copies the passport page, then presses send and thats it, its with the police already.

[QUOTE=Carage; 1286414]Just wondering if anyone has any experience with celebrity escorts in Shanghai?

I read in the paper today that Zhang Ziyi is under investigation for sleeping with the now ousted princeling, Bo Xilai.

The newstory alleged she received 10 million RMB from Bo Xilai for her "services".[/QUOTE]If Bo Xilai paid 10 million RMB for pussy, he should be put in jail!

[QUOTE=Lost In Shanghai;1286009]I stopped in at the massage place on North Shaanxi Road at Changping. I had been there a couple of times before and left happy. Once again going for the 268 Rmb massage, and expecting the same excellent set meal service, no upsell. Alas, it was not to be. The girl kept trying to sell me a 412 package, although it was never clear what she was going to offer for that. She seemed not to want to give me the 268 titty package I had enjoyed previously. Lots of discussion. I refused, and in the end, I came away with a HJ for 206. If anyone ever gets the 412 package, I'd like to know.[/QUOTE]412 package is for two girls and the service is basically the same.

[QUOTE=James52; 1286108]Another way to get a short term place to meet up without having to go through the hassle of registration is to use Bath Houses.

Hope this is helpful![/QUOTE]Thanks for the intel, one question, such bathhouses are really that (I. E. Legit) of just acting as a front for dangerous liasons, I mean offering rooms for a few hours sounds like a love hotel. Perhaps often used by straying local husbands and their mistresses.

[QUOTE=Changlelu;1287562]Thanks for the intel, one question, such bathhouses are really that (I. E. Legit) of just acting as a front for dangerous liasons, I mean offering rooms for a few hours sounds like a love hotel. Perhaps often used by straying local husbands and their mistresses.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure how Bath Houses work, because from what I have experienced, the male and female guests are lead to different floors and exclusive lounges. The only place that male and female guests can mingle is the cafeteria.

I noticed some of them do function as a hotel and provide rooms with real beds, but to rent out a room would require registration.

[QUOTE=Andy Cheng;1287413]412 package is for two girls and the service is basically the same.[/QUOTE]Oh, I need to try this. Two girl massage and a HE or CBJ? I read before you get either based on what you pay. Is feeling up usually extra? What are we paying there for feeling the breasts?

I am in shanghai in 2 weeks and looking forward to it!

When back in Shanghai about 3 weeks ago, I made a stop over on Yuyuan road. I had done a report before but went back. Service a little better this time. I walked in and there was a cute girl behind the desk. She showed me to the room. Last time I was there, I got the girl behind the desk. I went for the 208rmb massage.

This time it did not work that way. A few minutes later a nice looking girl in her late 20s came. Name was something like OO-ming. OO-ching? Anway she was probably an 8 and had a really nice set. Definately a 36b or so. I wanted to play withh them!

They offered the silk massage pants. I declined as I don't like sharing my undershorts with the rest of you mongers. Anyway she came back with the disposable blue pair. I took off my underwear right in front of her and slid them on. I figured I might as well let her know I knew why I was there.

She gave a great oil massage on the shoulders back and slowly worked to the butt. She took her time and that got me going as well. Finallly she pulled the shorts down and massaged the butt for what felt like forever. Finally reached down and grabbed little brother while I was face down. She worked him to attention. I then did the flip and after a long time on the chest she went to work on the little guy. I reached for her breasts offered 100rmb. She told me 200 and she would raise her top. Little bro was doing the talking so I said ok. She ripped up the top and placed them in my face. I played with them and enjoyed it much.

She brought me off and cleaned up and offered the shower. I jumped in the shower. She came back in and offered a shoulder massage. I passed paid the agreed 200 rmb and then went out to pay the remainder of the bill. 408 full damages and well worth the trip.

Sam

After the incidents in Beijing, LE now seems to get down to business also in Shanghai.

Yesterday several places along Yongfu Lu (eg. Apartment) were raided by police. Some 50 policemen were checking passports and visas of foreigners.

Nothing to worry about if you have valid documents but it might be a good idea to be a bit more careful in the next few days.

Make sure you carry a copy of your passport / visa / residence or working permit. I took pictures and saved them in my phone, this is usually good enough.

Also check out the article on cityweek com cn, Shanghai section.

Take care!

[QUOTE=Halloerstmal; 1287797]After the incidents in Beijing, LE now seems to get down to business also in Shanghai.

Yesterday several places along Yongfu Lu (eg. Apartment) were raided by police. Some 50 policemen were checking passports and visas of foreigners.

Nothing to worry about if you have valid documents but it might be a good idea to be a bit more careful in the next few days.

Make sure you carry a copy of your passport / visa / residence or working permit. I took pictures and saved them in my phone, this is usually good enough.

Also check out the article on cityweek com cn, Shanghai section.

Take care![/QUOTE]Eg Apartment? Is this qq girls or something else? Are they just checking if you are legal or shaking down spas and MPS? On my way over shortly. PM me if you have any info

[QUOTE=SamCan;1287801]Eg Apartment? Is this qq girls or something else? Are they just checking if you are legal or shaking down spas and MPS? On my way over shortly. PM me if you have any info[/QUOTE]LOL no,"The Apartment" is a regular bar / club on 47 Yongfu Lu, quite popular among foreigners. I was there personally, not a nice experience but as I mentioned no problem if you have proper documents.

Yongfu Lu is infamous for its weed dealers on the street. After midnight it virtually turns into a pedestrian zone, loads of people on the street having drinks and enjoying the street food (they used to sell the best curry sausages in Shanghai from a van there but its no longer available)

Just heard rumors about similar checks in Mint, however not confirmed yet.

I found Gal I like at at MP on wulumuqi just south of Wanhangdu Road on the Right side as you are going south. It is in a little alley off wulumuqi Road. Oil massage is 168 and tip for he is only 100. Her number is #8. I'd appreciate any reports

Lost In Shanghai; 1286009]I stopped in at the massage place on North Shaanxi Road at Changping. I had been there a couple of times before and left happy. Once again going for the 268 Rmb massage, and expecting the same excellent set meal service, no upsell. Alas, it was not to be. The girl kept trying to sell me a 412 package, although it was never clear what she was going to offer for that. She seemed not to want to give me the 268 titty package I had enjoyed previously. Lots of discussion. I refused, and in the end, I came away with a HJ for 206. If anyone ever gets the 412 package, I'd like to know.[/QUOTE]

[quote=james52; 1286108]another way to get a short term place to meet up without having to go through the hassle of registration is to use bath houses.

there is a masseuse i once started seeing quite often and we decided to see each other outside of the massage parlor itself so we can "go the whole way". she is the one that suggested that we meet at a bath house. the one we went to is the "jinlyu bathouse" or something like that. it's on the yan'an service road, on the side of the street heading east from hongqiao airport, about 500m west of hongmei road. it is now under renovation, but i have seen similar bathhouses rep001tered around shanghai.

the process is that you go in to the bath house with the girl and tell them that you'll both be using the bath facilities. as long as it's not too late at night (say before 8pm or so) , they will not ask for you i'd (at least that has been my experience). they then take your shoes (so you don't run away i think has been suggested before, and sounds likely) and you go to the shower area (there is a mens' side and a womens' side). after showering you meet by the elevators and then go up to the floor where they have use by the hour rooms. they will show you to room, offer you drinks (or food, though i've never had any) and then leave you on your own. you can stay for as short or as long as you want.

once done, you go back down, take your showers in your respective locker / shower room areas and then meet at reception. pay the bill and done. no ids needed, and the price is pretty reasonable (i think my total bill comes to about 200 rmb most of the time).

hope this is helpful![/quote]bath house rooms usually don't have locks.

[QUOTE=Monomi; 1285234][url]www.shanghaimassage.biz[/url]

Just came across this. Though I am more of a sauna dude myself, I thought it looked interesting. Lots of outcall listings, though many seem to link back to other sites. Odd. Anyway, will give it a try and report.[/QUOTE]Monomi,

You should enjoy sauna instead of trying out outcall. I was in Shanghai but now in Beijing. Beijing only has outcalls. Just tried one and service level is no where near sauna in Shanghai. Not to mention you cannot choose.

I am pretty much unfamiliar with Shanghai's locations and habits, but walked around for some hours over the weekend and finally decided to try an MP around the corner of the Howard Johnson Hotel at Caijing University, not far from the intersection with Zheng Li Lu. The name is something Zhong Yuan, the street name is Ji Pu Lu. Signs outside all Chinese, inside an English menu that points to various YouYa / Oil Massage items. (I looked around for a long time, and it seemed to me that most of the MPs are FS service places where you cannot expect a decent regular or HE massage, is that correct?).

I picked the 168 RMB / 80 min package, the next one would have been 218, I think, and seems the difference was in duration rather than nature (but after reading some of the posts here, maybe it had to do with the amount of clothes?). Number 18 came in and started the regular chit-chat, married or not, rich or not, etc. At some point she decided to change her story from her being married to being single and yes, she would come home with me the next day and be my girlfriend.

I am not posting here because anything spectacular was experienced (ok oil massage with HE and a bit of careful boob-groping) , but because I keep reading these forum posts and there seems to be an understanding that in Shanghai the girls are expected to be tipped for HE. In this case. 168 was all-inclusive, and she never asked for a tip (I, having lived in Beijing for a long time, never offered one, as it is not the habit there). Is this tipping a foreigners' misunderstanding, are there various habits in this strange town of yours, or was I just lucky? Thanks and keep up the good posting!

A few weeks ago, I had posted for help looking for some straight massage places in Jin'An area. Thanks to everyone, I received several replies. In the end I picked Yu Massage. Wu Yuan Lu #366. Atmosphere is nice, service is professional. 90 mins for RMB 255.

If you're someone like me who like it with a lot of pressure, chose either #9 or #19.

Looks. 5 or 6.

Service. 8.

Didn't try to touch or ask for extra's.

Hi there,

Has anyone here tried the few BBS along ChangPing Lu, west of ChangDe Lu in Jin'An? I tried to do a search, didn't come up with anything.

Thanks!

I have a wonderful dilemma.

I am 6 months into a great relationship with a Chinese gal. Tall, great body, model-pretty, gentle, sweet, funny, good listener, amazing cook, enjoys the occasional toke.

And a nymphomaniac. A bicurious nympho.

Here's the thing: She wants really badly to bring another girl into our bed. Of course I do too! But I'm not sure how to recruit the third. Pick-up bars seem to be the wrong places, and she's still a bit publicly shy to go to a place like that 'on the hunt. ' Online sources are already filled with white guys with Chinese girlfriends looking for a partner to join in.

So we decided to hire someone. We discussed it (she knows I have partaken and thinks its kind of hot) and the best I could come up with is Manhattan. However, that's an intense place, and not really a sit-down-and-get-to-know-you place. But so far it's what I have come up with.

However, although I am SURE I can find someone there who will do this (and most anything else) for the dough, I prefer someone who is really bisexual, experienced with threesomes like this, or at least a good enough actress. We BOTH deserve GFE.

Have any of you had an experience like this? Maybe you know a pro or a freebie that might be up for such a thing? Advice is welcome.

Ira

[QUOTE=Ira Johnson; 1289170]I have a wonderful dilemma.

I am 6 months into a great relationship with a Chinese gal. Tall, great body, model-pretty, gentle, sweet, funny, good listener, amazing cook, enjoys the occasional toke.

And a nymphomaniac. A bicurious nympho.

Here's the thing: She wants really badly to bring another girl into our bed. Of course I do too! But I'm not sure how to recruit the third. Pick-up bars seem to be the wrong places, and she's still a bit publicly shy to go to a place like that 'on the hunt. ' Online sources are already filled with white guys with Chinese girlfriends looking for a partner to join in.

So we decided to hire someone. We discussed it (she knows I have partaken and thinks its kind of hot) and the best I could come up with is Manhattan. However, that's an intense place, and not really a sit-down-and-get-to-know-you place. But so far it's what I have come up with.

However, although I am SURE I can find someone there who will do this (and most anything else) for the dough, I prefer someone who is really bisexual, experienced with threesomes like this, or at least a good enough actress. We BOTH deserve GFE.

Have any of you had an experience like this? Maybe you know a pro or a freebie that might be up for such a thing? Advice is welcome.

Ira[/QUOTE]I wish I had your problem!

[QUOTE=Jonas John; 1288386]I am pretty much unfamiliar with Shanghai's locations and habits, but walked around for some hours over the weekend and finally decided to try an MP around the corner of the Howard Johnson Hotel at Caijing University, not far from the intersection with Zheng Li Lu. The name is something Zhong Yuan, the street name is Ji Pu Lu. Signs outside all Chinese, inside an English menu that points to various YouYa / Oil Massage items. (I looked around for a long time, and it seemed to me that most of the MPs are FS service places where you cannot expect a decent regular or HE massage, is that correct?).

I picked the 168 RMB / 80 min package, the next one would have been 218, I think, and seems the difference was in duration rather than nature (but after reading some of the posts here, maybe it had to do with the amount of clothes?). Number 18 came in and started the regular chit-chat, married or not, rich or not, etc. At some point she decided to change her story from her being married to being single and yes, she would come home with me the next day and be my girlfriend.

I am not posting here because anything spectacular was experienced (ok oil massage with HE and a bit of careful boob-groping) , but because I keep reading these forum posts and there seems to be an understanding that in Shanghai the girls are expected to be tipped for HE. In this case. 168 was all-inclusive, and she never asked for a tip (I, having lived in Beijing for a long time, never offered one, as it is not the habit there). Is this tipping a foreigners' misunderstanding, are there various habits in this strange town of yours, or was I just lucky? Thanks and keep up the good posting![/QUOTE]If the girl expects a tip, she will negotiate before the deed. If it is a HE MP, no need to tip. Unless you negotiate a little extra (titty action or such) that is my experience YMMV

Hit yea another BBS on Laoshan Lu over on the Pudong side. Walked in and picked a girl, who then guided me back to her apartment, which is kind of nice as compared to the typical BBS backroom. She turned on the AC and we talked until the room cooled off a bit, then stripped down and hopped on the bed. I asked for a BBBJ which she started on but her technique was awful, so I covered up and went for missionary. The girl was super cute, a tad on the big side but not fat, just strong :) The bed was like a trampoline, one missed beat almost sent us airborne. Damage 300rmb.

[QUOTE=Arizona123; 1288677]Hi there,

Has anyone here tried the few BBS along ChangPing Lu, west of ChangDe Lu in Jin'An? I tried to do a search, didn't come up with anything.

Thanks![/QUOTE]Are you sure you got the addresses right? I am quite familiar with that neighborhood. There is no BBS on Changping Road west of Changde Road. There is a some kind of stadium over there. Definitely no BBS.

[QUOTE=SamCan;1289460]I wish I had your problem![/QUOTE]I used to know a girl from QQ that would do something like this. In fact, she was the third person in a husband / wife thing. And one day the wife wanted a second guy so my QQ girl invited me. That was one of the craziest thing I have done.

[QUOTE=Arizona123; 1288677]Hi there,

Has anyone here tried the few BBS along ChangPing Lu, west of ChangDe Lu in Jin'An? I tried to do a search, didn't come up with anything.

Thanks![/QUOTE]AZ, I think you mean 190, 200, & 228 Yuyao Lu, near Changde Lu. Seemed to be the only ones in the area. Each has several girls in front. You might find something that appeals, but I did not. For the BBS fan, though, you could probably do ok.

Ira, congrats on finding such an amazing girl! May I ask where you guys met? Seems like I can check off most of the stuff on your list except bicurious which I've been having a TON of trouble finding. I'd be very interested in figuring out where bicurious girls might hang out in Shanghai.

[QUOTE=Ira Johnson; 1289170]I have a wonderful dilemma.

I am 6 months into a great relationship with a Chinese gal. Tall, great body, model-pretty, gentle, sweet, funny, good listener, amazing cook, enjoys the occasional toke.

And a nymphomaniac. A bicurious nympho.

Here's the thing: She wants really badly to bring another girl into our bed. Of course I do too! But I'm not sure how to recruit the third. Pick-up bars seem to be the wrong places, and she's still a bit publicly shy to go to a place like that 'on the hunt. ' Online sources are already filled with white guys with Chinese girlfriends looking for a partner to join in.

So we decided to hire someone. We discussed it (she knows I have partaken and thinks its kind of hot) and the best I could come up with is Manhattan. However, that's an intense place, and not really a sit-down-and-get-to-know-you place. But so far it's what I have come up with.

However, although I am SURE I can find someone there who will do this (and most anything else) for the dough, I prefer someone who is really bisexual, experienced with threesomes like this, or at least a good enough actress. We BOTH deserve GFE.

Have any of you had an experience like this? Maybe you know a pro or a freebie that might be up for such a thing? Advice is welcome.

Ira[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Lost In Shanghai;1289733]AZ, I think you mean 190, 200, & 228 Yuyao Lu, near Changde Lu. Seemed to be the only ones in the area. Each has several girls in front. You might find something that appeals, but I did not. For the BBS fan, though, you could probably do ok.[/QUOTE]Agreed, there is definitely no BBS on Changping Lu west of Changde Lu as I walked that area yesterday and saw nothing.

I would recommend Anyuan Lu over Yuyao Lu, the talent is wildly diverse though, some days there are gorgeous 8s and 9s, other days there are just 6s and 7s. Damage is 200 and service is good but you don't get to pick, it's whoever's at the window waiting, so choose wisely.

There is another BBS on Shaanxi North Road near Kangding Road, always been interested but never checked it out, anyone have any experience there?

[QUOTE=SamCan;1289460]I wish I had your problem![/QUOTE]I'm VERY grateful. And I am not complaining, I just want to take the right next steps. I will do all I can to keep this one, she is one of a kind.

[QUOTE=ShanghaiWander;1290162]Ira, congrats on finding such an amazing girl! May I ask where you guys met? Seems like I can check off most of the stuff on your list except bicurious which I've been having a TON of trouble finding. I'd be very interested in figuring out where bicurious girls might hang out in Shanghai.[/QUOTE]Introduced through a friend. She works for a company that is a Chinese / foreign joint venture so she works with a few foreigners. However she is still quite traditional in a lot of ways.

To tell you the truth SH Wanderer, my girl seems unusual. I don't think she fits any mold so there not be a place to find others like her. Her iconoclastic viewpoints on sex, etc are not something she discusses or most people see. To the outside world she is a demure beauty in a qipao and she has NO clue where to find others like her.

Yesterday I asked her to take the MBTI and she measured as an ISTP. Never met one of those in China before.

And, we may have found our third. A former flirtation of mine is expressing interest in FFM threesomes. Without even knowing about my girl. Third wheel is 5'11", modern shanghainese from a broken home, big DD breasts and long reddish hair. And can curse like a sailor.

Yes I am on my knees constantly thanking every God there is. I am a fat middle aged moron with bad knees and gray hair and yet I am getting these blessings.

[QUOTE=ShanghaiWander; 1290168]Agreed, there is definitely no BBS on Changping Lu west of Changde Lu as I walked that area yesterday and saw nothing.

I would recommend Anyuan Lu over Yuyao Lu, the talent is wildly diverse though, some days there are gorgeous 8s and 9s, other days there are just 6s and 7s. Damage is 200 and service is good but you don't get to pick, it's whoever's at the window waiting, so choose wisely.

There is another BBS on Shaanxi North Road near Kangding Road, always been interested but never checked it out, anyone have any experience there?[/QUOTE]Guys,

My bad, yes it it on Anyuan Lu, not Changping Lu like I had thought. I must have looked at the map wrong.

Anyway, ventured out to Anyuan Lu this afternoon (Friday around 5. 30pm). There were I think around 4 of these BBS in a row. Walked past all of them and the girls were smiling and waving for me to go in. Made a 2nd round and finally decided to walk up to the one that's 2nd from the left. Got in the door, there were 2 girls, one's a 7 and the other one's an 8. Of course it was the 7 that walked back with me to the room. Asked how much, quoted 200. Got undressed while she went out to get her stuff.

When she took off her top, oh man. Those were probably the best looking tits on a Chinese girl I've ever seen. Nice and firm 36C's. Big nipples just asking to be sucked on. Chatted a little and she said for FS it's 300, I asked her what happened to the 200 and she said that's for BJ only. Additional 100 for FS. What the heck, I'm used to 880 for MP's and 1, 000 at Manhattan and some of those Viets weren't even this good looking, so went for it.

I have to say, I'm pretty impressed for a BBS girl. I'm not a breast man (more an ass man) , but those tits were just too good to be true. Not to mention her BBBJ was just as great. Great suction and slurpy at the same time. She even alternated between warm / cold water. On went the cap for the main event. But alas it was not to be, I simply couldn't perform. After a few tries, she said let me blow you again, this time it went to completion.

Looks 7/10.

Tits 10/10.

Ass 8/10.

Attitude 9/10.

Service 9/10.

She told me she's number 15 and remember to ask for her next time. That tells me we can actually chose a girl, not just let anyone of them lead us to the back room. As I was walking out of that place, I saw at least 2 other girls in there with looks in the 8-9 range. One of them slapped me on my ass and asked me to look her up the next time I visit. She's number 7 if anyone's interested.

Happy hunting!

After a great afternoon with my girlfriend here we went for a great dinner and ended up at Malones. We had a really good time then she went home. Malones closed shortly after so what was I to do.

Go to Manhattan for a last beer and to see if one of my friends from last year was there. What else could I do.

Outside of Malones I picked up a gang of the usual 100 rmb for a blowjob scammers. One gets behind pushing you up the street, one gets in front showing you her tits and trying to get you to grab them and the third goes for any money in your pockets. I just kept telling them 'bo yeow' but that only encouraged them. The one behind reached around to grab my crotch. The money grabber got really agressive as I had my hand in my right pocket hanging onto my money. She tried with all her strenght to yank my hand out but failed. Then she seemed to warn the others that I was strong. I think these girls are actually dangerous. They gave it up then.

Manhattan was packed and in full swing. I got a beer and started to walk around to check it out. I almost tripped over one girl who kind of jumped up and said Hi. She even knew my name. I was her, my friend from last year. I tried to beg off that I had sex already plus I was drinking. No dice so off we went in a taxi for my hotel.

It was a red taxi with a driver playing the I'm too stupid to find my 'as s hole' with both hands routine. At first he didn't put on the meter but my date noticed and told him to. When he went past my street and wouldn't stop I had to really yell at him to get him to pull over and give me my change.

So we got to my hotel and had a great time. She stayed all night for 1000 rmb and initiated more sex in the morning. Normally I would just say I was too old but I'm on holiday so it was,"go for it."

Arizona.

Can you send me a pm. I have some places to recommend.

BJ.

123; 1215086]Hi everyone,

Been RTFF'ing for awhile but couldn't find much on this topic. Does anyone have experience or recommendations on MP's around the Jin An Temple area?

Thanks. A[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ira Johnson; 1290668].

Yesterday I asked her to take the MBTI and she measured as an ISTP. Never met one of those in China before.[/QUOTE]Ira: a couple of years ago you did not reply to my enquiry about buying Vit. C from you. All is now forgiven. If you. With each of your lady loves in China post their MBTI.

I have had a few 3-somes in China. But the 2 girls who, of course, knew each other, were too passive, shy, or disinterested to enjoy.

Pity.

P13

Not sure if anyone of you had this kind of experience before but thought I'd share mine. This happened last year.

There was a period of a few months when I frequented Manhattan. Sampled quite a few of the Viets and also a couple of the Philipino's. I usually go for LT and never paid more than 1, 000. A few times I stayed til quite late and was able to get it down to 800 for LT. Most were good (of course there's always the bad apples.) One of the girls was really to my liking. Let's call her F, spoke pretty good Mandarin and we were hitting it off pretty good. Took her home a few times and soon became a regular thing.

F was not the prettiest girl nor the youngest in Manhattan, in her 30's. But she compensated that with great attitude and GFE experience. Never rushed, always trying to please, and of course the most important of all, sex was good. After awhile, we even met up during the day (weekends) for lunch or just walking around town. I would always get her little gifts like perfume or make-up from duty free whenever I fly around for business trips. Guys, this giving little gifts really works. Just don't make it a habit and never let these WG's get you to go out shopping with them and drop a ton of cash on them.

Soon we got into an arrangement of when if it's Tuesday through Saturday night that I wanted her to spend the night with me, I would pay her. If it's Sunday or Monday night, then no money transaction. This went on for a couple of weeks, then it became whenever she doesn't have a LT for the night, she'd just come over to my place. No charge. I guess she prefers sleeping in my bed than sharing an apartment with 5 other girls. I stopped going to Manhattan and was still seeing her a couple times a week, regular sex, and home cooked meals on Sunday!

Well all good things must come to an end. F had to leave Shanghai for good after a few months of our "relationship" due to various reasons. So I'm back on the prowl again.

Maybe some of you had a similar experience. Those were some pretty good memories.

Just a heads-up. Maybe something, maybe nothing.

Went to my usual MP (inside a 4 star hotel) today. Probably my 15th or so visit in the past 2 years. They usually put me in the exact same room not far from the front desk, but today the room was much farther away (all rooms I walked by were un-occupied). Also, the girl (my regular), was a little reluctant to completely disrobe. She claimed nothing was amiss, but who knows?

[QUOTE=Arizona123;1291138]It was a red taxi with a driver playing the I'm too stupid to find my 'as s hole' with both hands routine. At first he didn't put on the meter but my date noticed and told him to. When he went past my street and wouldn't stop I had to really yell at him to get him to pull over and give me my change.[/QUOTE]If you have a choice, avoid the red maroon taxi, a lot of them are trying to rip you off if they have a chance especially those with a 'X' on their licence plate. 'X' means private owner and they are not controlled by any company. In my 8 years in Shanghai, on one rainy day, I came across a red maroon taxi who demanded RMB 50 to take me on a 2 km journey. This is just one of the few bad experience that I have with red maroon taxi.

[QUOTE=Pushkin13; 1291111]Ira: a couple of years ago you did not reply to my enquiry about buying Vit. C from you. All is now forgiven. If you. With each of your lady loves in China post their MBTI.

I have had a few 3-somes in China. But the 2 girls who, of course, knew each other, were too passive, shy, or disinterested to enjoy.

Pity.

P13[/QUOTE]Hi does MBTI mean what you find in Google. Something about personality tests etc. ?

Gregory

[QUOTE=Arizona123; 1291138]Not sure if anyone of you had this kind of experience before but thought I'd share mine. This happened last year.

There was a period of a few months when I frequented Manhattan. Sampled quite a few of the Viets and also a couple of the Philipino's. I usually go for LT and never paid more than 1, 000. A few times I stayed til quite late and was able to get it down to 800 for LT. Most were good (of course there's always the bad apples.) One of the girls was really to my liking. Let's call her F, spoke pretty good Mandarin and we were hitting it off pretty good. Took her home a few times and soon became a regular thing.

F was not the prettiest girl nor the youngest in Manhattan, in her 30's. But she compensated that with great attitude and GFE experience. Never rushed, always trying to please, and of course the most important of all, sex was good. After awhile, we even met up during the day (weekends) for lunch or just walking around town. I would always get her little gifts like perfume or make-up from duty free whenever I fly around for business trips. Guys, this giving little gifts really works. Just don't make it a habit and never let these WG's get you to go out shopping with them and drop a ton of cash on them.

Soon we got into an arrangement of when if it's Tuesday through Saturday night that I wanted her to spend the night with me, I would pay her. If it's Sunday or Monday night, then no money transaction. This went on for a couple of weeks, then it became whenever she doesn't have a LT for the night, she'd just come over to my place. No charge. I guess she prefers sleeping in my bed than sharing an apartment with 5 other girls. I stopped going to Manhattan and was still seeing her a couple times a week, regular sex, and home cooked meals on Sunday!

Well all good things must come to an end. F had to leave Shanghai for good after a few months of our "relationship" due to various reasons. So I'm back on the prowl again.

Maybe some of you had a similar experience. Those were some pretty good memories.[/QUOTE]Sounds to me you are a lucky guy. I have never had FOC (Free of Charge) experience. Also I have family so taking girls home is not an option. That makes it difficult to have a real GF around. But from my other experience, if it is FOC, it might end up costing you more $ at the end because usually it will lead to shopping or can-you-buy-me-iphone 4S, or even worse, they want a real relationship.

So enjoy while you can but be careful about where this is going. It is almost like playing with fire.

[QUOTE=Arizona123; 1290792]Guys,

My bad, yes it it on Anyuan Lu, not Changping Lu like I had thought. I must have looked at the map wrong.

Anyway, ventured out to Anyuan Lu this afternoon (Friday around 5. 30pm). There were I think around 4 of these BBS in a row. Walked past all of them and the girls were smiling and waving for me to go in. Made a 2nd round and finally decided to walk up to the one that's 2nd from the left. Got in the door, there were 2 girls, one's a 7 and the other one's an 8. Of course it was the 7 that walked back with me to the room. Asked how much, quoted 200. Got undressed while she went out to get her stuff.

When she took off her top, oh man. Those were probably the best looking tits on a Chinese girl I've ever seen. Nice and firm 36C's. Big nipples just asking to be sucked on. Chatted a little and she said for FS it's 300, I asked her what happened to the 200 and she said that's for BJ only. Additional 100 for FS. What the heck, I'm used to 880 for MP's and 1, 000 at Manhattan and some of those Viets weren't even this good looking, so went for it.

I have to say, I'm pretty impressed for a BBS girl. I'm not a breast man (more an ass man) , but those tits were just too good to be true. Not to mention her BBBJ was just as great. Great suction and slurpy at the same time. She even alternated between warm / cold water. On went the cap for the main event. But alas it was not to be, I simply couldn't perform. After a few tries, she said let me blow you again, this time it went to completion.

Looks 7/10.

Tits 10/10.

Ass 8/10.

Attitude 9/10.

Service 9/10.

She told me she's number 15 and remember to ask for her next time. That tells me we can actually chose a girl, not just let anyone of them lead us to the back room. As I was walking out of that place, I saw at least 2 other girls in there with looks in the 8-9 range. One of them slapped me on my ass and asked me to look her up the next time I visit. She's number 7 if anyone's interested.

Happy hunting![/QUOTE]Wow, BBBJ and hot / cold water at BBS? I have never heard of that. Usually it is BJ over cap and as soon as you are ready, they get on with it. This one must really like you! What is the address again? Anyuan and what?

I don't like to spoil the mood here but, I'm kinda had enough for the past few years from eastern Asian girls. Not that I would if I could they are still women but I kinda need a refreshment.

Ever since I got my QQ skills up I stopped visiting Manhattan and I kinda look down on paying a fee to get some (people with them skills know what I'm talking about) , so I've been going crazy about hunting down some Lao Wai's (like Russian, Mongolians, white or black etc.) since my last trip to BJ and hitting it up with a Mongo (Mid Asia ROCKS!) I've been hearing there's some hangouts in PuDong where there be imported meats and scanned what I could in one week but no luck.

Anyone have any hint (PuXi would be easier I guess)?

[QUOTE=Arizona123; 1291138]Not sure if anyone of you had this kind of experience before but thought I'd share mine. This happened last year.

There was a period of a few months when I frequented Manhattan. Sampled quite a few of the Viets and also a couple of the Philipino's. I usually go for LT and never paid more than 1, 000. A few times I stayed til quite late and was able to get it down to 800 for LT. Most were good (of course there's always the bad apples.) One of the girls was really to my liking. Let's call her F, spoke pretty good Mandarin and we were hitting it off pretty good. Took her home a few times and soon became a regular thing.

F was not the prettiest girl nor the youngest in Manhattan, in her 30's. But she compensated that with great attitude and GFE experience. Never rushed, always trying to please, and of course the most important of all, sex was good. After awhile, we even met up during the day (weekends) for lunch or just walking around town. I would always get her little gifts like perfume or make-up from duty free whenever I fly around for business trips. Guys, this giving little gifts really works. Just don't make it a habit and never let these WG's get you to go out shopping with them and drop a ton of cash on them.

Soon we got into an arrangement of when if it's Tuesday through Saturday night that I wanted her to spend the night with me, I would pay her. If it's Sunday or Monday night, then no money transaction. This went on for a couple of weeks, then it became whenever she doesn't have a LT for the night, she'd just come over to my place. No charge. I guess she prefers sleeping in my bed than sharing an apartment with 5 other girls. I stopped going to Manhattan and was still seeing her a couple times a week, regular sex, and home cooked meals on Sunday!

Well all good things must come to an end. F had to leave Shanghai for good after a few months of our "relationship" due to various reasons. So I'm back on the prowl again.

Maybe some of you had a similar experience. Those were some pretty good memories.[/QUOTE]I've found this to be pretty common. I think it's because the overwhelming majority of their customers are tourists that they only see once, local jerks, and yea they live with in cramped apartments with other WGs. The girls are either from other countries. SE asia if you're going to manhattan. Or other cities in China if you're going to sauna. So they have little way of forming strong connections here and they're separated from their families. If you repeat on the same girl and are generally nice and / or interesting. The GF outcome has been a highly probable one for me. At one point I was juggling a GF from a BBS, a GF from a sauna, a GF from a girl bar and a GF from manhattan. Paying for nothing. Just being nice to them and remembering details about their life. It actually felt like work though to keep it all together in my head.

I used to go to bathhouses and BBS, but during this visit to Shanghai, I tried several saunas. Much more expensive, but as usually in China: You get what you pay for.

So went to 999 yesterday (about 10' walk along Tianyaoqiao Road from the Shanghai Stadium subway station, building 999, you can't miss it). Asked for red rope service, but there seems to be none anymore.

Selection of gals was great. All 7-9, about 15 at 4pm. There's also a lot of "supporting" staff. I choose #957, but lame me forgot her name. She's a quite strong and tall gal from Harbin with big tits and very long hair and a nice butt; at the end of her 20s.

Service was very anticipated: Shower, soapything on the mattress (with her incredible tits. Best in town) , cleaning, then this water bubbling and licking massage all over the back / legs, hot / cold thing on my Johnny, BBBJ, FS in any position (including doggy which is my first time with a Chinese gal). Touching / licking anywhere, but no kissing.

She skipped the rimming part, but I didn't mind, the rest was just perfect.

Damage: 880RMB.

Location: 8.

Attitude: 10.

Looks: 9.

Tits: 10.

Ass: 7.

Service: 9

[QUOTE=Brooklyn Cyclone; 1291499]Sounds to me you are a lucky guy. I have never had FOC (Free of Charge) experience. Also I have family so taking girls home is not an option. That makes it difficult to have a real GF around. But from my other experience, if it is FOC, it might end up costing you more $ at the end because usually it will lead to shopping or can-you-buy-me-iphone 4S, or even worse, they want a real relationship.

So enjoy while you can but be careful about where this is going. It is almost like playing with fire.[/QUOTE]This is so true! My Long term (18 month) relationship with my 25 year old girl friend just ended (sad, too sad). She figured out I was stalling to leave my wife, (which I had strongly considerred) Next thing I know I am buying nicer and nicer gifts on every trip to Sh. Iphone 4s, gold rings, bracelets, perfume, , The sex was still great (3-4 times a day and awesome!) but I must admit that this "freebie" was getting more expensive than paying for locally at the spas and Manhattans. I did the math more than once, but the emotional connection made the sex that much better and very hard to walk away from. The Drama also continued to get more and more ridiculous.

I got in way over my head and started really thinking about leaving my wife. I was literally days from sitting down with my wife. The costs would have been HUGE after 20 years of marriage. Talk about the cost of a freebie!

Finally it got silly, She wanted me to buy her a 30, 000 rmb watch and I said no. She had told her friends I would buy and was embarrased and won't see me again. I am actually happy it worked out this way. Can you imagine if I actually left my wife? The cost of that would have been much greater than a 30, 000 watch and I would have obviously lost this girl soon enough! You can't base a marriage on someon that walks away because you won't buy a watch for god sakes. She works massage in one of the Chinese hotels and is very hot.

This "freebie" almost cost me my marriage, my family and would have still ended ugly and I would have been alone.

I have not seen it written here for quite a while so I will say it now."don't ever fall in love with a working girl!". And I would add HJ massage girls to that list. They are still working girls even if you convince yourself it is just a HJ.

You know I read a similar post a couple years ago and said,"I am too smart for falling for a WG, , how could this guy be so silly?" It happened to me. So beware, it can happen to any of us if you are not careful. I will "pay them to leave" from now on.

[QUOTE=SamCan; 1291884]This is so true! My Long term (18 month) relationship with my 25 year old girl friend just ended (sad, too sad). She figured out I was stalling to leave my wife, (which I had strongly considerred) Next thing I know I am buying nicer and nicer gifts on every trip to Sh. Iphone 4s, gold rings, bracelets, perfume, , The sex was still great (3-4 times a day and awesome!) but I must admit that this "freebie" was getting more expensive than paying for locally at the spas and Manhattans. I did the math more than once, but the emotional connection made the sex that much better and very hard to walk away from. The Drama also continued to get more and more ridiculous.

I got in way over my head and started really thinking about leaving my wife. I was literally days from sitting down with my wife. The costs would have been HUGE after 20 years of marriage. Talk about the cost of a freebie!

Finally it got silly, She wanted me to buy her a 30, 000 rmb watch and I said no. She had told her friends I would buy and was embarrased and won't see me again. I am actually happy it worked out this way. Can you imagine if I actually left my wife? The cost of that would have been much greater than a 30, 000 watch and I would have obviously lost this girl soon enough! You can't base a marriage on someon that walks away because you won't buy a watch for god sakes. She works massage in one of the Chinese hotels and is very hot.

This "freebie" almost cost me my marriage, my family and would have still ended ugly and I would have been alone.

I have not seen it written here for quite a while so I will say it now."don't ever fall in love with a working girl!". And I would add HJ massage girls to that list. They are still working girls even if you convince yourself it is just a HJ.

You know I read a similar post a couple years ago and said,"I am too smart for falling for a WG, , how could this guy be so silly?" It happened to me. So beware, it can happen to any of us if you are not careful. I will "pay them to leave" from now on.[/QUOTE]Not too long ago I remember having read "once she was through immigration she bolted."

Be happy it hadn't gotten that far.

Gregory

I'm hearing an erie Echo here. Twice, no three times my Shanghai massage "girlfriends" have asked for a gold necklace,actually leading me to the store. When I declined to buy 10,000 Rmb necklace one lowered her expectations down to a 500 Rmb piece of clothing. The latest one still wants to get married, although I have been repeating that it will not happen. She tells me the green card would be automatic and the marriage is only for convenience. Anyone care to visit her and see if she is being faithful to her sugardaddy? These stories really reinforce that I'm in a fantasy world thinking this time it's
different.

[QUOTE=Beijing4987; 1288131]I found Gal I like at at MP on wulumuqi just south of Wanhangdu Road on the Right side as you are going south. It is in a little alley off wulumuqi Road. Oil massage is 168 and tip for he is only 100. Her number is #8. I'd appreciate any reports

Lost In Shanghai; 1286009]I stopped in at the massage place on North Shaanxi Road at Changping. I had been there a couple of times before and left happy. Once again going for the 268 Rmb massage, and expecting the same excellent set meal service, no upsell. Alas, it was not to be. The girl kept trying to sell me a 412 package, although it was never clear what she was going to offer for that. She seemed not to want to give me the 268 titty package I had enjoyed previously. Lots of discussion. I refused, and in the end, I came away with a HJ for 206. If anyone ever gets the 412 package, I'd like to know.[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]I have gone to the place numerous times. The 412 package is for a blow job. It varies with the girl, sometimes full on, sometime just liking. I generally don't get an up-sale, and they aren't generally too pushy there. The girls vary a lot.

[QUOTE=SamCan; 1291884]This is so true! My Long term (18 month) relationship with my 25 year old girl friend just ended (sad, too sad). She figured out I was stalling to leave my wife, (which I had strongly considerred) Next thing I know I am buying nicer and nicer gifts on every trip to Sh. Iphone 4s, gold rings, bracelets, perfume, , The sex was still great (3-4 times a day and awesome!) but I must admit that this "freebie" was getting more expensive than paying for locally at the spas and Manhattans. I did the math more than once, but the emotional connection made the sex that much better and very hard to walk away from. The Drama also continued to get more and more ridiculous.

I got in way over my head and started really thinking about leaving my wife. I was literally days from sitting down with my wife. The costs would have been HUGE after 20 years of marriage. Talk about the cost of a freebie!

Finally it got silly, She wanted me to buy her a 30, 000 rmb watch and I said no. She had told her friends I would buy and was embarrased and won't see me again. I am actually happy it worked out this way. Can you imagine if I actually left my wife? The cost of that would have been much greater than a 30, 000 watch and I would have obviously lost this girl soon enough! You can't base a marriage on someon that walks away because you won't buy a watch for god sakes. She works massage in one of the Chinese hotels and is very hot.

This "freebie" almost cost me my marriage, my family and would have still ended ugly and I would have been alone.

I have not seen it written here for quite a while so I will say it now."don't ever fall in love with a working girl!". And I would add HJ massage girls to that list. They are still working girls even if you convince yourself it is just a HJ.

You know I read a similar post a couple years ago and said,"I am too smart for falling for a WG, , how could this guy be so silly?" It happened to me. So beware, it can happen to any of us if you are not careful. I will "pay them to leave" from now on.[/QUOTE]I did fall for a WG, not from a massage place but from a KTV, and I can not be happier. The sex with a GF is just so much better that I just cannot see myself doing another random WG ever again. To avoid this iphone4s, gold neckless stuff, I simply per her a small amount monthly to allow her to live without serving any other guy, while pay her on the number of days she spent acompanying me. Like you said. 3 or 4 times a day great sex, without cover, and repeat BBBJ after intercourse over and over again with countless organsms. The only way to have that type of sex is to have a steady GF.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1284794]I did send some messages on DIA to some girls and within minutes got replies from 3 out of 4.

One gave me her rates as follows.

Hello my normal day time tour guide and interpreter service is 100 yuan with a max of 600 yuan per day work time 10 till 6 pm.

I also offer daytime + dinner companion and nightlife is 1000 yuan from noon till midnight.

I you want naughty service is 600 for 4 hours and 1000 for evening and night and 1500 for 24 hrs.

Nice organised girl!

In general I noticed how mad the traffic is, how mad the taxi drivers have become (or maybe always were) and how many more foreigners there are now in Shanghai.[/QUOTE]I have looked all over but can't figure it out. What is DIA?

[QUOTE=Beijing4987; 1291950]Anyone care to visit her and see if she is being faithful to her sugardaddy? These stories really reinforce that I'm in a fantasy world thinking this time it's.

Different.[/QUOTE]Yes, I convinced myself this was special. I was her first. The pain the blood. I really doubt it was faked. (I know another fantasy) anyway, I will be in SH this weekend. And I am up for it! What do you need me to do?

Sam.

See my other post, yes this time is the first time in a long time I will not have a girl waiting for me at the airport. It is also, unfortunately my last trip to shanghai for a long time. I used to go every month but the job I was working on is about done.

Anyway, I am not a spa guy. But but a HJ massage guy. Too much to lose to come home to the mrs with even a set of crabs. Since I spent a 9000 rmb a trip the last times on my girlfriend keeping her happy, I plan to spend about the same making the little guy happy! Wish me luck.

II am single again in shanghai, so, Sam Can.

[QUOTE=SamCan; 1291884]This is so true! My Long term (18 month) relationship with my 25 year old girl friend just ended (sad, too sad). She figured out I was stalling to leave my wife, (which I had strongly considerred) Next thing I know I am buying nicer and nicer gifts on every trip to Sh. Iphone 4s, gold rings, bracelets, perfume, , The sex was still great (3-4 times a day and awesome!) but I must admit that this "freebie" was getting more expensive than paying for locally at the spas and Manhattans. I did the math more than once, but the emotional connection made the sex that much better and very hard to walk away from. The Drama also continued to get more and more ridiculous.

I got in way over my head and started really thinking about leaving my wife. I was literally days from sitting down with my wife. The costs would have been HUGE after 20 years of marriage. Talk about the cost of a freebie!

Finally it got silly, She wanted me to buy her a 30, 000 rmb watch and I said no. She had told her friends I would buy and was embarrased and won't see me again. I am actually happy it worked out this way. Can you imagine if I actually left my wife? The cost of that would have been much greater than a 30, 000 watch and I would have obviously lost this girl soon enough! You can't base a marriage on someon that walks away because you won't buy a watch for god sakes. She works massage in one of the Chinese hotels and is very hot.

This "freebie" almost cost me my marriage, my family and would have still ended ugly and I would have been alone.

I have not seen it written here for quite a while so I will say it now."don't ever fall in love with a working girl!". And I would add HJ massage girls to that list. They are still working girls even if you convince yourself it is just a HJ.

You know I read a similar post a couple years ago and said,"I am too smart for falling for a WG, , how could this guy be so silly?" It happened to me. So beware, it can happen to any of us if you are not careful. I will "pay them to leave" from now on.[/QUOTE]The expression "no free lunch" is true whether your in SH or LA. LOL.

Expecially in SH though, lesson learned so NEXT.

Words from experiance with all of my "freebies" that were never free.

Remember that we pay them to leave, not to stay.

PC out

[QUOTE=Pcpc1688; 1292124]The expression "no free lunch" is true whether your in SH or LA. LOL.

Expecially in SH though, lesson learned so NEXT.

Words from experiance with all of my "freebies" that were never free.

Remember that we pay them to leave, not to stay.

PC out[/QUOTE]Yup I did, cost me my marriage, broke my heart, cost me thousands. The day I got her a visa to leave China, the mood changed and eventually I understood how the good mood, good times, planning, good sex etc changed. To add to my misery she was a psychopath, (for a definition look up Dr Hare) , whose main ability was to convince anyone of anything, low to no ethics, no heart but great body, Her view is men are stupid, and she said she has nothing except a good set of tits, and held everyone in contempt. Now after much wound licking found a great woman, so they aint all bad. But don't fall in love with a working girl, ever.

Well I can't damn the girls either. There's a reason they are in this business or are ready to jump on the first foreigner that shows interest. Probably came from a poor family which likely didn't want a girl in the first place. Taught her whole life that boys are "preferred" over girls and that the best they can do is marry well. Then puberty hits and suddenly every male around her in a 50 year age range suddenly does start acting stupid. So if she starts right away, she can milk guys for maybe 10 or 15 years before she just doesn't have "it" any more. So she has a very short window to make as much as she can to be independent or find some guy to take care of her.

So a smart girl without a lot of options knows how to use her assets, a smart guy knows it's all just a business transaction. Then everyone gets what they want.

[QUOTE=Johnny Jets;1292157]Yup I did, cost me my marriage, broke my heart, cost me thousands. The day I got her a visa to leave China, the mood changed and eventually I understood how the good mood, good times, planning, good sex etc changed. To add to my misery she was a psychopath, (for a definition look up Dr Hare) , whose main ability was to convince anyone of anything, low to no ethics, no heart but great body, Her view is men are stupid, and she said she has nothing except a good set of tits, and held everyone in contempt. Now after much wound licking found a great woman, so they aint all bad. But don't fall in love with a working girl, ever.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Johnny Jets;1292157]Yup I did, cost me my marriage, broke my heart, cost me thousands. The day I got her a visa to leave China, the mood changed and eventually I understood how the good mood, good times, planning, good sex etc changed. To add to my misery she was a psychopath, (for a definition look up Dr Hare) , whose main ability was to convince anyone of anything, low to no ethics, no heart but great body, Her view is men are stupid, and she said she has nothing except a good set of tits, and held everyone in contempt. Now after much wound licking found a great woman, so they aint all bad. But don't fall in love with a working girl, ever.[/QUOTE]Been there, done that! Long time lurker here with a much longer story I'll cut short. Fell in love with a WG bar girl in SH. Her story had a different twist (several interesting twists, actually) in that she started late (early 30's) and did a couple of stints as an 'er nai' with some KTV time in between in Shenzhen (she was good enough looking to pull this off despite her age). Then, she discovered laowai and had a Japanese guy on the hook for a couple of years. Did a stint in Singapore for a few weeks (said she was visiting friends) and eventually ended up in SH. I meet her and the chemistry is right, the sex is great, and I convince myself that she wasn't like all the other WGs or she wouldn't be sharing all this history with me. An alternative theory that I developed post-relationship is that she is a psychopath who actually enjoys reliving the long trail of broken hearts she's created. She left for Germany once for marriage but another German she had on the side in SH followed her and broke that apart. Anyway, one day my daughter manages to accidentally find a photo of hers that I thought was buried in the bowels of my laptop. My wife asks me about the photo and and I took the "fuck it, here's the whole story" approach. I had recently called SH around midnight (noon my time) and the conversation was cut short because, well, I forget the excuse that time but she did end-up with a new iPhone 4 that weekend she said she bought herself. I could bore you with dozens of similar stories like that during the two years I lived in denial, but you get the point. I'm glad it is over. Would I do it again? NO! They don't call these gals "pros" for nothing! I don't judge them, I don't look down on them, but I wouldn't buy a used car from one or want my daughter following their path. Things worked out OK for me. I miss the pussy, the mind fuck not at all!

[QUOTE=Tryfor5; 1292199]Well I can't damn the girls either. There's a reason they are in this business or are ready to jump on the first foreigner that shows interest. Probably came from a poor family which likely didn't want a girl in the first place. Taught her whole life that boys are "preferred" over girls and that the best they can do is marry well. Then puberty hits and suddenly every male around her in a 50 year age range suddenly does start acting stupid. So if she starts right away, she can milk guys for maybe 10 or 15 years before she just doesn't have "it" any more. So she has a very short window to make as much as she can to be independent or find some guy to take care of her.

So a smart girl without a lot of options knows how to use her assets, a smart guy knows it's all just a business transaction. Then everyone gets what they want.[/QUOTE]Actually, I agree. I really don't blame her. You got a ton of foreigners showing up promising the girls to marry them, pull them out of poverty and bring them to the USA (europe, austraila whatever). The guy then bails and leaves them older, wiser and alone. They too have seen it all and know many a girl that has lost their youth to empty promises. Let's not forget at 29, they are has beens. Far different than in the US where there are options for women over 30.

It is easy to say it is a business transaction. Sometimes hard to do. You date some massage girl that sees many meaningless faces come through with never so much as a second meeting. Can this make you jaded? Of course. THey are also ripe for some smooth talking guy to just show a little attention. Why else would a 50 year old laowei like me land a 24 year old hot chick. A hot chick better than I could land in my 20s?

I almost convinced myself it would work. She would stay with me and I could marry her. I still honestly believe at one point she really cared for me and the marrying me was for the right reasons. I do however believe it was not going to last forever and as I stalled, she became more cynical and decided to take me for the wallet ride.

The massage girls at this expensive hotel all land foreign boyfriends. Compare who is getting what, how much the boyfriend loves them based on how much he will spend. They love to brag about how they have a good one. As I said, My girl was telling all of them how she would make me buy a 30, 000 rmb watch before I came back. When I told her no, the embarassment was too much. Better to tell the girls she dumped me for other reasons to admit I wouldnot buy it. The whole save face thing.

Pardon the rant, but thanks for the therapy.

Sam now Can in shanghai again!

[QUOTE=Johnny Jets;1292157]Yup I did, cost me my marriage, broke my heart, cost me thousands. The day I got her a visa to leave China, the mood changed and eventually I understood how the good mood, good times, planning, good sex etc changed. To add to my misery she was a psychopath, (for a definition look up Dr Hare) , whose main ability was to convince anyone of anything, low to no ethics, no heart but great body, Her view is men are stupid, and she said she has nothing except a good set of tits, and held everyone in contempt. Now after much wound licking found a great woman, so they aint all bad. But don't fall in love with a working girl, ever.[/QUOTE]My heart goes out to you Johnny, I was almost there. Reading your post is flashbacks of where I was a month ago. I have been married for 20 years and my wife gave me less grief and frustration in 20 years than this massage girl could in a 3 week visit! The sex was the best I ever had, the beauty was there and I couldnot see beyond the end of my penis.

Your story rings true for me. Thanks for sharing

[QUOTE=SamCan; 1292219]My heart goes out to you Johnny, I was almost there. Reading your post is flashbacks of where I was a month ago. I have been married for 20 years and my wife gave me less grief and frustration in 20 years than this massage girl could in a 3 week visit! The sex was the best I ever had, the beauty was there and I couldnot see beyond the end of my penis.

Your story rings true for me. Thanks for sharing[/QUOTE]Yes, keeping it at a business transaction is all it is. Sad but cold hard facts. I pay them to leave, not to stay. Was with a Thai women for 5 yrs and she wanted more than I wanted to give so it was done.

In China, the 29 yr old + girls are considered over the hill for sure. Its when your 18-22 that the pussy is the most sought after although most "normal" girls this age can't fuck worth a nickel and have to be trained. This is when BBBJCIMWS can be had LOL.

PC out

[QUOTE=Mervos; 1291868]I used to go to bathhouses and BBS, but during this visit to Shanghai, I tried several saunas. Much more expensive, but as usually in China: You get what you pay for.

So went to 999 yesterday (about 10' walk along Tianyaoqiao Road from the Shanghai Stadium subway station, building 999, you can't miss it). Asked for red rope service, but there seems to be none anymore.

Selection of gals was great. All 7-9, about 15 at 4pm. There's also a lot of "supporting" staff. I choose #957, but lame me forgot her name. She's a quite strong and tall gal from Harbin with big tits and very long hair and a nice butt; at the end of her 20s.

Service was very anticipated: Shower, soapything on the mattress (with her incredible tits. Best in town) , cleaning, then this water bubbling and licking massage all over the back / legs, hot / cold thing on my Johnny, BBBJ, FS in any position (including doggy which is my first time with a Chinese gal). Touching / licking anywhere, but no kissing.

She skipped the rimming part, but I didn't mind, the rest was just perfect.

Damage: 880RMB.[/QUOTE]By doggie you mean from behind with normal hole? That is quite common. I get that almost every time going to sauna. Most girls like that position more than missionary seems like. I thought 999 was 800. It is 880 now?

This week I had both the worst and best experiences.

First, I went to one of the BBS places on Anyuan Road near Changde Road (line 7, Changping Station). This one was dark, with several girls sitting in the lobby to wave me in. The experience was dark, mechanical and rushed. While the first girl was getting me up, a second came in and offered a two girl. Thank fully I turned her down. The rest of the experience must have been less than 5 minutes. Dressed and out of there. 300 lighter. I could have gotten away on 200, but there won't be a next time.

Later, I went to the sauna known as Southern, at Lianhua Station on line 1. You can find details to get there in my old posts. But speaking of old, I had noticed lately the old xiao didi wasn't doing the job the way it used to. Just, you know, not as hard, not as long. So before I went, I stopped in at a pharmacy selling Viagra (wei3 ge1) on Changping near Xikang. In packs of 1 or 5 at about 100 a tablet. Go upstairs and ask the pharmacist. There was nothing discrete about that experience. When I asked the girl at the front desk where was the Viagra, she shouts out the Chinese equivalent of,"Hey guys, where's the Viagra?" Then back on line 7 to 1 to Minhang.

I took one of the tablets when I got off the subway, headed through the shopping center and out the back to the spa. Put my stuff in the locker, showered, then straight to the fishbowl, no waiting. While I contemplated, the attendant recommended 811 to me. I was hoping for some bigger boobs; hers weren't bad, but what she lacked in cleavage she made up for in personality. We were hitting it off pretty good, and the Viagra was kicking in. My Schoolboy Mandarin is passable to communicate, and when she offered the second girl, which I expected, I went for it.

Number 807 showed up. These two were quite the team. The double soapy experience alone was worth it, and then we moved to the bed. We chatted, we laughed, multiple wo3 ting1 bu4 dong3's, more laughter, more positions. We were making quite a racket, and so was the next room. I had to work pretty hard to finish, but it was great. Thanks to the Viagra, I could keep it all together.

Then we lay there and chatted. I was teaching them English, they were teaching me some body parts I didn't know. One of the girls proposed marriage, I think, but I told her she was too young for me. More laughter and compliments all around for looking young. When it was time to depart, they gave me the phone. I gave them both hen hao, hen hao. In the end I was 1380 lighter, but really happy.

Now I know all of you guys have had great experiences. Probably better than me, but I highly recommend these 2. A little off the beaten path, but well worth the trip.

"Pay for them to leave" that's an interesting way to put it! LOL

I tend to chat up the sauna and MP girls and have no problems getting them to give me their phone numbers. My intention is to get them to give me the service at the comfort of my home. But it seems that these girls work 7 days a week from 1pm to 2am. Only days that they don't work is during that time of the month for them. It's almost impossible for me to meet these girls outside of their work.

After reading all the posts, I have to agree. It's like playing with fire, it's fun but if you're not careful you'll get burn.

Girl name: She mumbled something.

Number: 281.

Age of the girl: around 28 years old, not fresh.

Face: 7/10

Body: 6/10, she looked better outside the room, but she had very little tits and cushions in her bra, too much muscle and nothing sensual about her body.

Skill: 8/10 (Good BBBJ, Tit sucking, Fingering, no DFK, quite turned on by DATY, no anal, Doggy fuck)

Damage: 580 RMB for 90 min but I was ed up after 60 min.

Tip: No.

Hi everyone,

The address of Sacrosa can be easily found online.

I arrived 3:30pm on a Friday as I intended to leave before 6pm and not to be charged the night fee, which I did.

Decent bath house but nobody was using it so I just took a quick shower.

They gave me clothes for midgets and, here I am, ridiculously dressed, taken to a waiting room and served a glass of hot water.

They told that I would have to wait for 15 min. I watched TV and 3 Chinese men joined me in that room, waiting for a girl as well.

15 min later, I was taken to a sort of "lobby" where 6 tuna fishes were lined up. Not tall, not pretty, no tits and all fairly nervous.

Then, another girl passed by, right after finishing a session, and the guy told her to join the group.

She was better than the others. I chose here. They all laughed because she must be popular.

When I got closer to her, I could feel that she was an old pro, experience but no real charm, and all fake in her attitude.

I would have waited another 30 min to get a better one, but I had no choice, the clock was ticking.

She took me to a fairly crappy room with no shower. I was a bit surprised. Not high-end at all.

She got naked and I was not very impressed.

I let her take control to see if she was good, and she was OK, pretty good BBBJ.

Then, I started touching her. She was a bit reluctant to lose control.

I fingered her in both holes, and she definitely tried to show me that she did not like it.

But her butt-hole was quite loose and I felt anal was possible if I insisted a bit.

I started a long DATY that definitely freaked her out as she was totally out of control.

I was fingering both holes and she could not prevent me to do so. He pussy was quite loose as well.

After 20 min, she was all wet and horny, and she capped me.

I started fucking her doggy style with a finger in her ass. She did not take it out this time.

She enjoyed herself and me too. I was going real deep and she was trying not to make too much noise.

When I was about to come, I pulled it out, removed the condom and stuck my dick all the way inside her throat.

She took it like a trooper. It was good. That how I came. She was a bit shocked but not too long.

After that she gave me a massage, and I almost fell asleep.

She wanted me to stay longer, but I left after 60 min.

Not a bad experience, but that girl gave me a bit too much resistance and she was not pretty enough.

I like long legs and big tits. She had neither.

The place was gloomy, I went to take a shower and left without feeling fully satisfied.

I do not plan to go back there for sure.

[QUOTE=Brooklyn Cyclone;1291504]Wow, BBBJ and hot / cold water at BBS? I have never heard of that. Usually it is BJ over cap and as soon as you are ready, they get on with it. This one must really like you! What is the address again? Anyuan and what?[/QUOTE]The row of BBS are on Anyuan Lu west of Changde lu.

Lost in Shanghai just had a bad experience there, so buyers beware. It's YMMV I guess. Also I've been told they sometimes quote higher for Laowai 400 BJ; 500 FS. So be careful, don't fall for it. It's 200 BJ; 300 FS.

[QUOTE=Johnny Jets;1292157].But don't fall in love with a working girl, ever.[/QUOTE]Hmnnn. I've done it twice.

First time, with a stunningly beautiful Korean woman who was the epitome of a man-eater. She raked me over the coals, but let it be understood that you can only be used if you allow it. And I did. If you look up Man-Eater in the encyclopedia, you're sure to see her photo.

But while getting over her, I started dating a gal who turned out to be the owner of the spa. She was short on girls one night and I happened to have great timing. We hit it off and started dating, and she quit the 'working' side of the business and just managed the place with a partner. Eventually I moved in to her apartment and was thinking of marrying her, but she wouldn't. She already had a son and she insisted that I would be better off finding a woman who wanted kids. This woman had more class in her little finger than any woman I ever knew. Eventually we split amicably and I found my wife and have two wonderful kids now.

Moral of the story? Every woman is different. Their reasons for working this business are endless. Some like it. Some only like the money. Some are forced by debt to the wrong people. Some support a drug habit. Some are really enslaved. But it's possible to find love with a hooker. And possible to be destroyed. It's a roll of the dice, I guess.

Huck

Arrived in Shanghai on June 6. Got checked in to a Bund (downtown) hotel by 8 pm Went out looking for action at 9 pm. I had read reports here and elsewhere that BBS brothels can be found and more numerous in the outer areas. Took Metro line 10 to the end of the line in to the southwest. Hangzhong Station. Emerging from the station there was a major intersection and a set of tall apartments. I walked north on Hangzhong Road. At the first intersection there is a stop light for Hang Nan Lu. To the right there is a commercial area with convenience stores, car repair, small restaurants, several small massage places and two BBS. Took a look and decided that the first BBS had a more lively and attractive crew of ladies. As I approached the door a Chinese guy stepped over from in front of the next door convenience store, said "beautiful ladies", and opened the door for me. Walked in, said hello, looked around. The Madam invited me to pick. I selected a lady named Jiang and she lead me back a hallway, then through a couple of doors to a small room. My estimate is that her age is 35. Nice smile, about 5'8", beautiful breasts, a bit stocky. She provided BBBJ and covered FS. Cost was 200 RMB. Went back the next night to enjoy the flip side of Jiang!

I lost my long-time provider to marriage, another one. .

We started it as a "business relation".5 years ago, it became regular, later a pure fuck buddy relation, without money involved.

Question: anybody interested to swap Incall provider Infos?

Levitian

Does anyone know what time the Filipinas start showing up at Manhattan? I was there twice this week and ended up going home with a Viet both times. Not that I'm complaining, she was fantastic (same girl both nights). But I'd love to sample some of the Filipina talent.

[QUOTE=Huckleberryfinn;1292756]Moral of the story? Every woman is different. Their reasons for working this business are endless. Some like it. Some only like the money. Some are forced by debt to the wrong people. Some support a drug habit. Some are really enslaved. But it's possible to find love with a hooker. And possible to be destroyed. It's a roll of the dice, I guess.Huck[/QUOTE]Well in my opinion, if you want to avoid woman of a kind for marriage or love, I would stay off from the one you mentioned are in it for money or drugs!

[QUOTE=Levitian; 1292923]I lost my long-time provider to marriage, another one. .

We started it as a "business relation".5 years ago, it became regular, later a pure fuck buddy relation, without money involved.

Question: anybody interested to swap Incall provider Infos?

Levitian[/QUOTE]How would it work to swap infos? Anyone who is giving freebies, wouldn't give freebies to the new guy as a result of swapping. Or do you just mean swapping general incall WG info?

[QUOTE=Huckleberryfinn; 1292756]Hmnnn. I've done it twice.

Moral of the story? Every woman is different. Their reasons for working this business are endless. Some like it. Some only like the money. Some are forced by debt to the wrong people. Some support a drug habit. Some are really enslaved. But it's possible to find love with a hooker. And possible to be destroyed. It's a roll of the dice, I guess.

Huck[/QUOTE]I have done it more then twice and I now on a mission to look for my next. The sex with a real GF and love each other is just so much better that I just would not have it any other way. I am talking about repeated BBBJ after intercourse so that she can reach more then 10 orgasms. During one session, she may reach six or seven, but she will be extremely exhausted, but her lip and tough can still function, and mine too, and we can then make love for an hour or more, and do this in the afternoon, at night and again in the morning, and repeat every single day when I come to China for a week. Try that with a random WG.

I have 4 such true love in the last 10 years or so and it usually last one or two years. The way I find such is to catch a WG very early on, via KTV in my case. In China many girls got into the KTV business without really knowing that they need to sleep with a customer and most of the hot ones actually don't, or will wait until the right person comes along. So KTV provides a process to find a "WG" girl who had not been with many guys yet, and in my case, my 4 gfs had only been with two or three guys. Usually they became a KTV girl because their classmates were working in a KTV and they consider that to be a temp job before finding a real job, or to go there to find a rich bushand.

OS

Number. #827.

Looks. 7+/10.

Body. 7/10 (not quite chubby but almost there)

Tits. 9+/10.

Ass. 8/10.

Service. 9/10.

I'm an ass man but lately it seems like I've been getting big breasted Chinese ladies which are not common (see my other post on BBS in AnYuan Lu). This one was recommended by the guide who took me to the fishbowl. I was there around 3pm on a Saturday and there were around 12 girls in the line up.

Seriously if you don't mind your girl with a little more weight than the usual stick figures, this one's a gem. She very friendly (Mandarin, don't know about English I didn't try speaking to her in English) and her service was great. I've tried some "highly recommended" ones before and I would say this one probably is as GFE for the 70 mins as you can get.

The soapy with those 36D's were to die for. When she did the Russian, I almost lost it, had to tell her to slow down. Her BBBJ was way up there too. She has this way of going deep throat then rotating her head to the left and right while sucking hard. This is something new to me too.

She welcomed DATY and the main battle was fought in multiple positions. The war was won in the doggie position with my finger deep in her ass. After about 10 mins, we had world peace.

Chatted some and when time was up, she brought me out to the common area and the attendants asked if I wanted to "rest". I said yes and was brought to one of the waiting rooms. Order noodles. Free of charge. A hottie in Qipao came in and asked if I wanted my ears cleaned. How could I refuse? Contrary to what some had posted here, the ear cleaning girl did wear underwear and though I did feel her up, she wouldn't let me go too far. At some point, another girl knocked on the door to ask if I wanted foot massage but declined. I RTFF and thought I saw somewhere that this foot massage girl will give a HE but it runs around 300-500RMB. Something like "ball massage"? Can someone please confirm?

[QUOTE=Dude929;1292865]Arrived in Shanghai on June 6. Got checked in to a Bund (downtown) hotel by 8 pm Went out looking for action at 9 pm. I had read reports here and elsewhere that BBS brothels can be found and more numerous in the outer areas. Took Metro line 10 to the end of the line in to the southwest. Hangzhong Station. Emerging from the station there was a major intersection and a set of tall apartments. I walked north on Hangzhong Road. At the first intersection there is a stop light for Hang Nan Lu. To the right there is a commercial area with convenience stores, car repair, small restaurants, several small massage places and two BBS. Took a look and decided that the first BBS had a more lively and attractive crew of ladies. As I approached the door a Chinese guy stepped over from in front of the next door convenience store, said "beautiful ladies", and opened the door for me. Walked in, said hello, looked around. The Madam invited me to pick. I selected a lady named Jiang and she lead me back a hallway, then through a couple of doors to a small room. My estimate is that her age is 35. Nice smile, about 5'8", beautiful breasts, a bit stocky. She provided BBBJ and covered FS. Cost was 200 RMB. Went back the next night to enjoy the flip side of Jiang![/QUOTE]Dude929, thanks for the excellent field report. I look forward to reading more from you in the future.

And a note to other newbies. Dude929's post is proof that it's possible for a newcomer to post useful information, rather than just ask dumb questions!

[QUOTE=Arizona123;1293010]Chatted some and when time was up, she brought me out to the common area and the attendants asked if I wanted to "rest". I said yes and was brought to one of the waiting rooms. Order noodles. Free of charge. A hottie in Qipao came in and asked if I wanted my ears cleaned. How could I refuse? Contrary to what some had posted here, the ear cleaning girl did wear underwear and though I did feel her up, she wouldn't let me go too far. At some point, another girl knocked on the door to ask if I wanted foot massage but declined. I RTFF and thought I saw somewhere that this foot massage girl will give a HE but it runs around 300-500RMB. Something like "ball massage"? Can someone please confirm?[/QUOTE]Some of the ear cleaning girls provide the extra service for about 500 RMB, the package consists of the regular ear cleaning, head and arm massage, and the ball massage (shen baojian which means kidney workout).

But not all ear cleaning girls do that.

Normally, all foot massage girls will provide the ball massage, if I remember correctly. The price is also a package around 500 RMB which starts with your thighs, then a HJ / ball massage, then they will massage your feet.

Unlike the regular foot massages outside, they do not put your feet in tubs of hot water and the only liquid used is some sort of baby oil.

[QUOTE=EsotericHuangpu;1292961]How would it work to swap infos? Anyone who is giving freebies, wouldn't give freebies to the new guy as a result of swapping. Or do you just mean swapping general incall WG info?[/QUOTE]No, not freebies.

I still have some other Incall providers at hand, and I am looking for new ones.

Pm me, if interested to swap.

Levitian

[QUOTE=Dude929;1292865]Arrived in Shanghai on June 6. Got checked in to a Bund (downtown) hotel by 8 pm Went out looking for action at 9 pm. I had read reports here and elsewhere that BBS brothels can be found and more numerous in the outer areas. Took Metro line 10 to the end of the line in to the southwest. Hangzhong Station. Emerging from the station there was a major intersection and a set of tall apartments. I walked north on Hangzhong Road. At the first intersection there is a stop light for Hang Nan Lu. To the right there is a commercial area with convenience stores, car repair, small restaurants, several small massage places and two BBS. Took a look and decided that the first BBS had a more lively and attractive crew of ladies. As I approached the door a Chinese guy stepped over from in front of the next door convenience store, said "beautiful ladies", and opened the door for me. Walked in, said hello, looked around. The Madam invited me to pick. I selected a lady named Jiang and she lead me back a hallway, then through a couple of doors to a small room. My estimate is that her age is 35. Nice smile, about 5'8", beautiful breasts, a bit stocky. She provided BBBJ and covered FS. Cost was 200 RMB. Went back the next night to enjoy the flip side of Jiang![/QUOTE]Wow, you seem to be adventurous (and brave) , you basically crossed whole Puxi to find pussy. This area was pretty famous some 5-7 years ago, a lot of action. Now, you are the first in many years writing about it, again.

Levitian

Ha! I was thinking the same thing. Why go so far when services abound? Then again 200 RMB is pretty cheap. But time is money.

[QUOTE=Levitian; 1293250]Wow, you seem to be adventurous (and brave) , you basically crossed whole Puxi to find pussy. This area was pretty famous some 5-7 years ago, a lot of action. Now, you are the first in many years writing about it, again.

Levitian[/QUOTE]

I had given a good review at one of the BBS along AnYuan Lu (west of ChangDe Lu). Here's a horrible one.

Day / Time: Thursday night around 8pm.

Location: 1st one from the right when you're facing the row of BBS.

Girl: #5.

Against better judgement. I already had a good experience with one of them there's really no reason to try something unknown, I walked into this BBS I've never tried before. There were 4 girls sitting around. Three 6's and the other one was about an 8/10 in looks. But the red flag should have gone off when I saw that the three 6's all jumped up and tried to get me to pick them while the other better looking one was busy typing away on her cell phone. I went ahead and picked her and she almost reluctantly put away her phone and took me upstairs.

Long story short, BBBJ was almost non-existence. 2 mins at the most and it was so light I could hardly feel anything. She had the cap on me before I could say anything and she just laid there on the bed and told me to get on with it. WTF it was like fucking a dead fish. Needless to say, I couldn't keep it hard and in no time I couldn't continue anymore. She didn't move at all during this time and I knew it was a lost cause. Told her I was done with her, got dressed, left the 300RMB on the bed and left. I didn't wait for her to get dressed I just went on downstairs and left the place.

I would chalk this up as the worst lay in my Shanghai experience. No, actually it's the worst lay, period.

It's really a hit and miss with these BBS. Two doors down and I could get one of the best BBBJ and almost a GFE experience.

[QUOTE=M6393;1292928]Does anyone know what time the Filipinas start showing up at Manhattan? I was there twice this week and ended up going home with a Viet both times. Not that I'm complaining, she was fantastic (same girl both nights). But I'd love to sample some of the Filipina talent.[/QUOTE]I've been there as early as 10. 30pm and saw some of them. The Philipinas are usually at the far end of the bar. From the entrance, face the stage. Far right hand side.

[QUOTE=Arizona123; 1293356]I had given a good review at one of the BBS along AnYuan Lu (west of ChangDe Lu). Here's a horrible one.

Day / Time: Thursday night around 8pm.

Location: 1st one from the right when you're facing the row of BBS.

Girl: #5.

/QUOTE]Hi Arizona,

I went to AnYuan Lu yesterday night, but couldn't find the row of BBS you are talking about. What are the number of the street? (AnYuan is quiete long). Is it near the 168 super MOTEL?

Thank you for you review anyway.

[QUOTE=Aniki88; 1293605]I went to AnYuan Lu yesterday night, but couldn't find the row of BBS you are talking about. What are the number of the street? (AnYuan is quiete long). Is it near the 168 super MOTEL?

Thank you for you review anyway.[/QUOTE]As was written, the BBS along AnYuan Lu are west of ChangDe Lu and in a small mall on the north side of AnYuan. That is immediately west of ChenDe Lu.

[QUOTE=Arizona123;1293415]I've been there as early as 10. 30pm and saw some of them. The Philipinas are usually at the far end of the bar. From the entrance, face the stage. Far right hand side.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Both nights I was very close to the entrance. I'll try again and hang out in the area you described.

[QUOTE=Carage; 1293188]Some of the ear cleaning girls provide the extra service for about 500 RMB, the package consists of the regular ear cleaning, head and arm massage, and the ball massage (shen baojian which means kidney workout).

But not all ear cleaning girls do that.

Normally, all foot massage girls will provide the ball massage, if I remember correctly. The price is also a package around 500 RMB which starts with your thighs, then a HJ / ball massage, then they will massage your feet.

Unlike the regular foot massages outside, they do not put your feet in tubs of hot water and the only liquid used is some sort of baby oil.[/QUOTE]They call it 1/2 3. I guess the 1 is the foot. 2 is the legs and the 3 is obviously the best. If oyu have a hot girl doing it its like 90 minutes of building sexual tension as she slowly works her way higher and higher. Fun with the right one. Boring with a mechanical one.

[QUOTE=Five Aces;1293658]As was written, the BBS along AnYuan Lu are west of ChangDe Lu and in a small mall on the north side of AnYuan. That is immediately west of ChenDe Lu.[/QUOTE]Thanks, I've returned to that place today, and I finally found them. To the cross of Anyuan Lu and Chengde Lu, behinde some trees.

I didn't dare to enter, because the girls were just sitting in a completly dark room, kinda scary. But it seems few of them were not bad at all, physically.

I will be going to Shanghai in the next month, and as newby what ia the best recommendations, I have been looking for reports here but hard to find, or please point to a good one.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Calvito; 1293932]I will be going to Shanghai in the next month, and as newby what ia the best recommendations, I have been looking for reports here but hard to find, or please point to a good one.

Thanks[/QUOTE]How can you possibly say reports are hard to find for Shanghai, clearly you are lazy and did not even bother to look.

[QUOTE=Aniki88; 1293782]Thanks, I've returned to that place today, and I finally found them. To the cross of Anyuan Lu and Chengde Lu, behinde some trees.

I didn't dare to enter, because the girls were just sitting in a completly dark room, kinda scary. But it seems few of them were not bad at all, physically.[/QUOTE]If this is your 1st time there it is better to go during the day. I had exactly the same experience as you. You can't see shit at night. It's perfectly fine to walk in there, check out the goods and if nothing is to your liking, just say thank you and leave. Someone will jump right up and try to point to the back and lead you there. This is the girl that's is next in line. It is ok to pick someone else, and ok to turn around and walk out.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1293742]They call it 1/2 3. I guess the 1 is the foot. 2 is the legs and the 3 is obviously the best. If oyu have a hot girl doing it its like 90 minutes of building sexual tension as she slowly works her way higher and higher. Fun with the right one. Boring with a mechanical one.[/QUOTE]Hey guys,

Thanks for all your explanations. Think I got it down now. Just the cost of 500RMB is a little steep for me just for a HJ. Another 80RMB you can get a session at Sarcosa, and I think that's the same price if you ask for a 2nd girl for your session too, right?

After finding several BBS on Hang Nan Lu, I continued to explore this neighborhood, located to the north of the Hangzhong Road metro station (line 10). Located a string of six BBS on Hang Xin Lu between Hang Bei Lu and G50 Huyu Expressway. The gals are younger, better looking and better dressed than the ladies in the Hang Nan Lu BBS. On Hang Xin Lu the services are not provided onsite. After making a selection you walk with the lady to nearby apartments. BBBJ and FS for 200 RMB. I tried ladies from three of the shops. Excellent service from beauties!

[QUOTE=Arizona123;1293975]If this is your 1st time there it is better to go during the day. I had exactly the same experience as you. You can't see shit at night. It's perfectly fine to walk in there, check out the goods and if nothing is to your liking, just say thank you and leave. Someone will jump right up and try to point to the back and lead you there. This is the girl that's is next in line. It is ok to pick someone else, and ok to turn around and walk out.[/QUOTE]Thank you Arizona, I will try to do like you said next time, hope my "little brother" will give me enough courage. Feel curious to test the big titted babe you mentionned before (second BBS from left).

Last Friday, I also went to the "flying dragon bar" near Mannathan, very bad experience, girls very pushy and get angry easily if refuse to buy her the 100rmb drink.

Tried some girls bar in Pudong area at Chang Yi Lu (there is a row of many bars and a DVD shop (LOL) between them). Had fortunately good experience with the one called "coyote.", friendly girls, smiling and not too pushy. But these bar are clearly not "taking home" bars, but more a place for having fun with sexy girls.

Last November, a guy was fallowing during few minutes in front of my Hotel with "massage? Sexy girls? Sex?", since my little bro was in good mood, I've decided to accept his offer. He called someone one his phone, then we were waiting in the street during 15/20 mins then 2 cabs arrived, with 2 nice hookers. I choose one (very cute, from Shichuan) for 1400rmb whole night (she gave 400rmb to the guy).

Honestly, I'm a bit tired of escort agency, because they don't know the "what you see is what you get", pictures are fake in worst case, and better case photoshoped.

Nothing better than choosing "in real life" your girl.

Peace

I know you are trying hard, but you do need to spend more time to read and learn from other mongering brothers.

First, there are only a few pick-up bars like Manhattan. The others are "buy me a drink" bars, where the girls will only chat and drink with you. Most of the time you would not even be able to hold their hands after spending hundreds and hundreds of mao's. If that is what you want, it is of course OK. If not, you are simply wasting your time and money.

Second, RMB 1400 for overnight is very expensive. For the same price, you can visit a sauna twice, go to a BBS 6-7 times, get a nice massage with HJ 5-6 times, or even find a good Viet from Manhattan.

Escort agency will almost never give you the girl in the picture. If you can live with that kind of "uncertainty", it is OK. But most of the time they are overpriced and provide very mechanical services.

[QUOTE=Aniki88; 1294216]Thank you Arizona, I will try to do like you said next time, hope my "little brother" will give me enough courage. Feel curious to test the big titted babe you mentionned before (second BBS from left).

Last Friday, I also went to the "flying dragon bar" near Mannathan, very bad experience, girls very pushy and get angry easily if refuse to buy her the 100rmb drink.

Tried some girls bar in Pudong area at Chang Yi Lu (there is a row of many bars and a DVD shop (LOL) between them). Had fortunately good experience with the one called "coyote.", friendly girls, smiling and not too pushy. But these bar are clearly not "taking home" bars, but more a place for having fun with sexy girls.

Last November, a guy was fallowing during few minutes in front of my Hotel with "massage? Sexy girls? Sex?", since my little bro was in good mood, I've decided to accept his offer. He called someone one his phone, then we were waiting in the street during 15/20 mins then 2 cabs arrived, with 2 nice hookers. I choose one (very cute, from Shichuan) for 1400rmb whole night (she gave 400rmb to the guy).

Honestly, I'm a bit tired of escort agency, because they don't know the "what you see is what you get", pictures are fake in worst case, and better case photoshoped.

Nothing better than choosing "in real life" your girl.

Peace[/QUOTE]

Dear All,

Actually I want to help you guys to get action with the best value available. , I'm from indonesia, I can understand english (not really good at writing though) , and speak mandarin.

There is a way to get a satisfaction service as the escort service / sauna service give, with cheaper price.

I guess you guys know about QQ girl right?

I know what you think, that they all fake. It's not true. There's also a gold mine there. Best quality, best service, best value (price)

If you are a member than you can look at the picture I upload. I don't know if its good enough for your taste. But good enough for me.

This picture are real,

And for 300 RMB 90 min you can get service such as :

1. Bath together,

2. Cosplay,

3. Rubbing using tits,

4. Ice and fire (oral sex using the cold and hot water)

5. Using tongue lick your whole body (cat bath)

6. Use pantyhose massage your xxx (more like a foot job?)

7. 69.

8. Off course the main course.

9. You can cum on face, or body, etc.

Overnight is 800 RMB. You can cum as much as you like.

Not like the escort service, you can't see their profile, in QQ girl you can see who is going to give you the service.

The cons :

Most of them don't do out-call and you have to go to their place (mostly because safety reason). I don't know if you have high standard over this kind of things. But if you don't mind. Then is a very good deal.

I don't mind share all the information that I can find with you guys. And help you arrange the meeting. Usually you have to go to the nearest subway station and give her a call, then she will direct you, or someone will pick you up.

Why you want to invest your time study mandarin? Well this thing surely paid it off. Haha.

I don't know if this information is useful for you all. I don't want to make it like an advertisement or so.

If you don't have the problem speaking mandarin. The qq of the girl is : 1164260847 she live in pudong. You can contact her directly.

Dear all! Greetings!

I will be in Shanghai from June 26- 28. I will be there in PUDONG NEW AREA near SINEC.

My first time in Shanghai-China.

Can anyone guide me of Night scene / massage parlor / FS / Escort services.

Much appreciated.

Cheers

After a round in Thailand and Korea, its good to be back in the Shang.

Hooked up with my regular massage girl. Rainy night, and she comes to me. Couple hours FS + a nice massage. 400rmb.

For all you who are working the bar scene. ChangYi Lu and similar. The girls will drink your wallet and leave you blue balled. Good fun, but do not expect to take 'them home. Manhattan = Viet heaven. 1000 ST. 1500 LT. On the high end of spending.

I am off to find some new places. Will report back soon.

SH

[QUOTE=ShangHangin; 1294608]For all you who are working the bar scene. ChangYi Lu and similar. The girls will drink your wallet and leave you blue balled. Good fun, but do not expect to take 'them home.

SH[/QUOTE]My experience is somewhat different. I've found that many of the girls in Changyi Lu (and similar) bars are available, but you have to go according to the bar rules. As others have commented, their main purpose in life is to drain your wallet by getting you to buy drinks for them, their friends, and anyone else they can find to swell the bill. Changyi Lu used to be low-pressure in that respect but they all seemed to get more pushy last summer, as a result of which I simply stopped going for several months and told the owners why. (Even at its worst it was never as bad as the nearby "Office" complex on Pudong Avenue. Most of those bars and girls seem to have relocated around the corner from Manhattan where they do their screaming harpie act as Aniki88 described). To get back to the point, the bar owners want the girls there earning money until the very last customer leaves. If you want to arrange to take them out you'll either have to wait until close to dawn or pay quite heavily for "lost income". I know one bar insists the girl earns ten drinks before she leaves, so you're looking at a barfine of 500 or 600 rmb. On top of whatever you negotiate with the girl for her time. It is not difficult to arrange this. If your appearance and behaviour are not too scary you can ask one of the girls who is available. Last weekend I was actually asked if I needed a "take-out" as closing time approached, and invited to indicate who I might prefer. As long as you treat the girl well and pay the agreed amount word will get around and you won't need to go home alone too often.

At the other end of the bar scene I was in a high-end hotel bar a few weeks ago and saw a neatly dressed girl sitting at the bar, could have been a business lady but turned out to be a very discreet working girl. Nice person and very good at her job. How can you not respect a girl whose waking words are "good morning, I give you blow job!". She doesn't want publicity, I mention this just to remind us that opportunities are all around!

R

Anyone interested hunting QQ girl together?

I have lots of them. No time to check them all. And limited cash hahaha.

The pros :

Cheap 300/800, good service (SPA service) , GFE (for sure and you can have a cosplay also, foot job. You can cum on their face also. Haha for hardcore) .9-10 face. Not kidding here. Real deal.

The cons :

Well you need to go to their place, no out call.

If you want to try this experience.

. I can send you their picture. And explain to you their service. Some will do anal, some won't, some even can cum on their mouth. Arrange the meeting, I can take you to their place (I know sometimes new stuff can be scary, and the Chinese have the reputation on fooling laowai).

. I don't know if I can post my number / yahoo messenger here. Maybe you can sent me a PM?

I upload one of their photo.

I will go to beijing on 22-24 for vacation. I'm from indonesia, can speak both mandarin and english. This forum help me become the man I am now. Haha, so its time to payback to community.

Good bye buying "cat's in the bag".

-

One of those girls can move down the street to a massage place or sauna, and work under a different pay structure, but their daily lives tend to be so entrenched in routine and total lack of privacy. Taking a punter home, for instance, entails the rest of your pack knowing you're not coming home, you're earning more, your manager wanting a cut,"face" (not surprisingly, crucial in that subculture) , and safety. Every one of them carries the memory of a nightmare client entrenched and the medical bills alone counter any profit you would be making. Relocating to a new KTV / BBS is usually a result of a major mess involving the hunch of this punter being the pot of gold that went awry.

Does this make them innocent and "good girls"? Hell no. Instead, it more often than not makes them jaded, burdened by trust issues, and barely surviving. Though wearing hooker heels and with a phone full of potential suitors to fall back on or get trapped into.

Most importantly, it's sometimes hard for us to understand that Shanghai is very much a buyer's market. The average local is not going to pay just any girl 10. 20 percent of his monthly salary for a night with a girl he's already typefaced as a loose woman. The er nai's tend to be a fairly exclusive club and have successfully broken away from the pack mentality in which most of these girls operate. Any of you who go to KTV's with your Chinese clients / managers, you can see the girls in the line ups for yourselves. There are so many of them, and the locals don't see them as much more than lubricants for Anhui businessmen not quite on par with the Wenzhou and Fujian superstars of Xuhui and Jingan.

Anyway, I do hope this has lent a bit of a background to some of what you may see. This is an area of Shanghai that has survived the Expo and seems to still operate under a pre-2008 code. Foreigners are still a bit of a novelty here, so for any of the brothers, come, treat the ladies with respect, play safe, and let me know if you should ever decide to take the trip.

I will post more reports in due time, and cheers for the finally fruitful discussions on the boards.

Stay safe.

Goat

I'm in Shanghai next week for a couple of days, staying at the HI Pudong and wondered what action there was locally. My first time in China so don't know what to expect but a friend said that he found girls always hanging around the bar in the hotel.

Recently spent a few days in Shanghai with a few good mates. All westerners in our mid-late 30's. We were well researched, but generally had very little previous Shanghai experience. After RTFF we prepared the following list of destinations for recommended activities. I have commented on our experience below.

HOTEL.

Sofitel Hyland Shanghai. 505 Nanjing Road East.

Sofitel Hyland was in a great location for shopping and sight-seeing. Contrary to some reports observed in the Shanghai Hotel thread. This hotel was girl friendly. After about 10pm, the security guy asked to take details from the girl's passport. Before about 10pm, we would just walk through as if we were a couple. There were some good rates at this hotel and we stayed on an Exec Floor meaning that we had access to the Exec Lounge which included free booze and food in the afternoons and evenings, plus breakfast in the mornings.

SAUNAS.

Visited Bodi. The Pudong Soapy Spa at Bodi Hotel. Entrance is to left side of hotel. Arrived at 2pm on a Sunday. Price was 880 RMB. Typical soapy.

Change into the robe in the changing room and leave your belongings in a locker. Then lead to a relaxation room. I waited for about 5 minutes here before boredom set-in and I navigated myself to the line-up. Good line-up of about 20 women of 7's. 8's. Chose No. 236. A tall and pretty Chinese with natural D-cups. Started with an assisted shower, then to the wet bed for cat-bath, body to body, BBBJ, rejected to offer of the anal play and rimming, cow-girl, reverse cow-girl, doggie, mish to finish. Overall, a highly recommended experience for a Shanghai newbie. Great service from No. 236 is recommended if you like her looks.

Other Spa's noted in the forum by other members include:

My Spa. 229 MingYue Lu (Corner of BaiHua Lu).600RMB 90mins. FS or M&BBBJx2.

2XG Spa. Shuangmei Sauna (on Wuyi Lu and Dingxi Lu).2XG FS 800RMB.

Sacrosa. 580RMB Before 6pm. 680RMB After 6pm. Not Soapy. Can be a little tricky to find, since its set back into the plaza where its located, next to the Yaohan (Ba Bai Ban) Mall with KFC, Pizza Hut and Hagen Das. When you enter the plaza square where there are statues of elephants and other random things, walk toward the back of the plaza off the main street and you'll see a roundish building to your left, behind the mall where Wagas is. Go into the central door and there are two elevators in the lobby. Go to the 5th floor.

General Sauna Prices are advised in the forum as 600RMB 60min. 800RMB 90min.

FREELANCER BARS.

Manhattan was our freelancer bar of choice for reliable take-outs on a couple of evenings. Address: 154 NanYang Road near XiKang Road Jing an &21335; &38451; &36335; 154&21495; (&36817; &35199; &24247; &36335.

Solid selection of talent from Vietnam, Thailand, Philippines and the odd Nigerian. The boys did not have much trouble finding 8's and 9's in the 20-25 year age range, however there were lots of 6's. 7's with a general age of about 25-40 years. Prices were 1000RMB-1500RMB range LT.

Other freelancer bars that were on our list are included below, however we never needed to visit any of these bars, so I cannot comment on value:

Big Bamboo (Apparently Good Food & Band. Good BMD Bar)

Malone's (Older Birds. Visit Malone's for a beer and food before Manhattan. Tong Ren Lu. Jing an.)

Judy's (Older Birds. Jing an.)

Zapata's (Older Birds. Heng Shen Lu.)

Brown Sugar / Xin Tian Di for African Women (We did visit here quickly, however the quality was 2's-4's generally aged 30-45 years. Ouch!).

KTV.

After RTFF we cautiously proceeded to test Shanghai's shark-infested KTV waters. We made a reservation for arrival at 10pm at the KTV at the Rendezvous Hotel Shanghai Merry, however we received a call at the last moment to cancel. We suspect that a regular customer may have turned up to take the room. Our concierge kindly helped reserve a KTV room for 7ppl at the KTV Business Club 2F 1045 Shanghai Huaihai Road near Fenyang Road. The phone number is 13795441281. We pre-negotiated a 1200RBM Per Person. Included room, drinks, everything included, etc. However, upon departure, it was clear that the staff expected that tips would be in addition to the 1200RMB per person. So this realistically increased to about 1300RMB per person. Line-Up included about 20 women aged 18-25 years mostly 7's. 8's. Some of the boys organised take-out's. The take-out's were not full fee, but rather were simply freebies or a 300RMB taxi fare. Basically, we wanted to try the local KTV experience. And overall, it was a good experience. Previous forum posters advise that you should pre-negotaite costs to try and avoid a massive up-sell and a massive bill. If you do have a problem, call police by dialling 110.

Other KTV's that were on our list are included below. We did not visit any of these:

Suggestion: Rendezvous Hotel Shanghai Merry. 396 Yan An West Road Shanghai. Phone: +86 21* 6249 5588.

Suggestion: KTV in Everbright Hotel is good. 1100RMB per Person including room, booze and tips. Take out is 1000ST and 1500LT. Advise intentions to Mamasan before choosing. Everbright Hotel. 66 Cao Bao Road, Xuhui District. Hotel Tel: +86-21-6484250.

Suggestion: 919 on the corner of Shanxi Lu and Jiujiang Lu. Pre-Negotiate. 1200RBM Per Person. Includes room, drinks, everything included, etc.

Suggestion: On corner between Whei Hai Lu and Shimen Lu. Pre-Negotiate. 1200RBM Per Person. Includes room, drinks, everything included, etc.

[url]http://www.*************.com/forum/showthread.php?56446-General-Shanghai-Mongering-Info-My-Experiences[/url]

LOCALS FREEBIE BARS / REGULAR NIGHT CLUBS.

Club 88 was our freebies bar of choice. Address: (&20301; &20110; &23500; &27665; &36335; 291&21495; &24735; &38182; &22823; &21414; 2&27004; (&36817; &38271; &20048; &36335. Fumin Lu / Changle Lu. 10mins Walk & 1km from Manhattan)

Great dance club with high quality women aged 20-30 years. We noticed that the freebies seemed to clear out at some point in the early morning with freelancers remaining. So there is freelance action here also. Picking-up here as a westerner was not really a problem. Assuming that you have got a little game in you.

Other freebie bars / regular night clubs that were on our list are included below. Most seem to be located near Tong ren Lu, Yong Fu Lu near Fuxing Lu.

Blue Sky Bar (Tongren Lu & Nanyang Lu)

Richy (Fuxing Park)

Babyface (Huai Hai Lu)

Muse 2 & 3 (not Muse 1) (Jing an)

Guandii.

El Cocktail.

The Appartment.

Shiva lounge.

Bling.

Park 97 (Fuxing Park)

Richbaby. 1 / F, Infiniti Plaza. 138 Huaihai Zhong Lu.

BUND BARS.

We visited Shanghai during a major event and so the Bund bars were humming. We generally quite liked these bars. There were lots of freebies and a healthy supply of freelancers. The freelancers were from Eastern Europe, Turkey and the odd African. Freebies were from all over the world with a healthy supply of middle-class or upper-class Chinese. We visited Bar Rouge a few times with good results. Again, LT for 1500RMB.

Other Bund bars on our list but not visited include:

Muse 1.

M1nt.

Lounge 18.

Bar Rouge (In the same building as Lounge 18. Located at 18 Bund.

Laris (also in another building in a walking distance from Lounge 18)

Jan George (also in another building in a walking distance from Lounge 18)

BMD BARS.

We did not visit BMD Bars in Shanghai. However the key headlines are:

Buy 2-3 Drinks Max at 100RMB Each. Max spend 200RMB-300RMB and all should be good. For this amount, you should be entitled to a fondle, kiss and pantie play with your new friend.

BMD Bars may be found across the road from the Hilton Shanghai (Hua Shan Lu).

BBS PUDONG.

We did not visit any BBS. However, we would have visited the BBS Pudong Century Park (apparently this is supposed to be good for 1st time).

BBBJ +FS 200-300 RMB. 20mins.

Only FS 250 RMB. 20mins.

HJ 50 RMB. 20mins.

Other posters highlight that Pudong BBS's are located on Yinghua Lu. Street starts at the intersection of Baiyang Lu and Yinghua Lu. Easily accessible from the Line 2 Century Park metro station. 5 minutes walk from exits 2. If you exit Line 2, you can walk west on Meihua Lu to Baiyang Lu. Hang a right and when you hit Yinghua Lu, hang another right. The four BBS will be on the right hand side of the street within the first block. Pronounce 'Chow Bay' upon entering the door. Which directly translated means 'knock back', like the old style fist knocking on back. Apparently this is good value.

SCAMS.

We were warned by members in the Shanghai forum about scams and saw lots of it o Nanjing Road.

Basically, if you get approached by anyone in the street. It's a scam. If you get taken to a restaurant or bar by someone. It's a scam. The standard operation is a 20 year old cutie will start talking to you in the street and ask about your plans. She will suggest a coffee, tea or meal. She chooses the cafe or restaurant and you get landed with a bill from the cafe / restaurant owner with a massive bill. Your new friend will split this 50/50 after you leave with your tail between your legs.

[QUOTE=Dudut; 1294890]Anyone interested hunting QQ girl together?

I have lots of them. No time to check them all. And limited cash hahaha.

The pros :

Cheap 300/800, good service (SPA service) , GFE (for sure and you can have a cosplay also, foot job. You can cum on their face also. Haha for hardcore).9-10 face. Not kidding here. Real deal.

The cons :

Well you need to go to their place, no out call.

If you want to try this experience.

I can send you their picture. And explain to you their service. Some will do anal, some won't, some even can cum on their mouth. Arrange the meeting, I can take you to their place (I know sometimes new stuff can be scary, and the Chinese have the reputation on fooling laowai).

I don't know if I can post my number / yahoo messenger here. Maybe you can sent me a PM?

I upload one of their photo.

I will go to beijing on 22-24 for vacation. I'm from indonesia, can speak both mandarin and english. This forum help me become the man I am now. Haha, so its time to payback to community.

Good bye buying "cat's in the bag".

-[/QUOTE]I tried to send you a PM, but not possible.

Happy hunting. Have you tried this lovely, for only 200 kuai?

[QUOTE=Dudut; 1294890]Anyone interested hunting QQ girl together?

I have lots of them. No time to check them all. And limited cash hahaha.

I will go to beijing on 22-24 for vacation. I'm from indonesia, can speak both mandarin and english. This forum help me become the man I am now. Haha, so its time to payback to community.

Good bye buying "cat's in the bag".

-[/QUOTE]Would be great to go hunting QQ girls together. I speak Mandarin too. But you're a regular member, can't leave you messages.

[QUOTE=Toolkit;1295127]Recently spent a few days in Shanghai with a few good mates. All westerners in our mid-late 30's. We were well researched, but generally had very little previous Shanghai experience. After RTFF we prepared the following list of destinations for recommended activities. I have commented on our experience below.[/QUOTE]This contribution has to go in the Report of Distinction and will go! A comprehensive resume lots of newbie should read before asking questions. Thanks Toolkit for this job.

[QUOTE=Pushkin13; 1295159]I tried to send you a PM, but not possible.

Happy hunting. Have you tried this lovely, for only 200 kuai?[/QUOTE]True veteran, but unfortunately my research skills are not up to par to yours. Mind sharing some QQ info and I'll report back. I tried searching through some of the Chinese websites, but no luck with some of the girls as I get more bad experiences than good.

[QUOTE=Dudut; 1294890]Anyone interested hunting QQ girl together?

I have lots of them. No time to check them all. And limited cash hahaha.

The pros :

Cheap 300/800, good service (SPA service) , GFE (for sure and you can have a cosplay also, foot job. You can cum on their face also. Haha for hardcore).9-10 face. Not kidding here. Real deal.

The cons :

Well you need to go to their place, no out call.

If you want to try this experience.

I can send you their picture. And explain to you their service. Some will do anal, some won't, some even can cum on their mouth. Arrange the meeting, I can take you to their place (I know sometimes new stuff can be scary, and the Chinese have the reputation on fooling laowai).

I don't know if I can post my number / yahoo messenger here. Maybe you can sent me a PM?

I upload one of their photo.

I will go to beijing on 22-24 for vacation. I'm from indonesia, can speak both mandarin and english. This forum help me become the man I am now. Haha, so its time to payback to community.

Good bye buying "cat's in the bag".

-[/QUOTE]I'm would like to help.

YABBS.

Hit a BBS near the corner of Qixia & Fushan in Pudong. BJ & FS, not bad service really, couple of cuties worth trying. Across from the Novotel hotel for those traveling through. Damage 200rmb. The negative. The room was just one of those massage cubbies, too small to play in.

FYI, YABBS stands for, Yet Another BBS and is searchable. For some reason BBS is not

Hey all, found yet another strip of BBSs' that look inviting near Nanquan & E Shan in Pudong.

Wondering if anyone has tried any in this area? There are a few next to the street, and I

Noticed a really big one hidden back behind a row of trees.

I'll give it a try this weekend and report back.

[QUOTE=Howdy1234;1295393]True veteran, but unfortunately my research skills are not up to par to yours. Mind sharing some QQ info and I'll report back. I tried searching through some of the Chinese websites, but no luck with some of the girls as I get more bad experiences than good.[/QUOTE]First, you will need QQ duhhh! Second you will need Mandarin skills! Third, you will need to be nimble and dexterous with your Mandarin to convince them that your "little brother" will not hurt or damage them. For me, the third condition is the problem. But. As Jackson reminds us "Money is the world's greatest aphrodisiac!" The thought of a tip might be able to persuade the waverers. Not to mention a bunch of flowers! . .

The number of QQ "little misses" in Shanghai is probably increasing (just my feeling).

Anyone tried this mature lovely "little miss" for 300 kuai? Or this younger "little miss" for 400 kuai?

Explore and report.

P13

Try:

[url]http://www.aish002.com/forum-37-1.html[/url]

[url]http://www.langmansh.com/[/url]

[url]http://www.casualencounterschina.com/[/url]

Many of the girls cross-post (cross-advertise).

They come in all shapes and sizes. Only 1 or 2 in 100 will understand English.

Explore and report.

P13

[QUOTE=Toolkit; 1295127]Recently spent a few days in Shanghai with a few good mates. All westerners in our mid-late 30's. We were well researched, but generally had very little previous Shanghai experience. After RTFF we prepared the following list of destinations for recommended activities. I have commented on our experience below.

HOTEL.

Sofitel Hyland Shanghai. 505 Nanjing Road East.

Sofitel Hyland was in a great location for shopping and sight-seeing. Contrary to some reports observed in the Shanghai Hotel thread. This hotel was girl friendly. After about 10pm, the security guy asked to take details from the girl's passport. Before about 10pm, we would just walk through as if we were a couple. There were some good rates at this hotel and we stayed on an Exec Floor meaning that we had access to the Exec Lounge which included free booze and food in the afternoons and evenings, plus breakfast in the mornings.

SAUNAS.

Visited Bodi. The Pudong Soapy Spa at Bodi Hotel. Entrance is to left side of hotel. Arrived at 2pm on a Sunday. Price was 880 RMB. Typical soapy.[/QUOTE]Now RTFF should be replaced with READ POST #5375. Great job.

[QUOTE=Pushkin13; 1295854]First, you will need QQ duhhh! Second you will need Mandarin skills! Third, you will need to be nimble and dexterous with your Mandarin to convince them that your "little brother" will not hurt or damage them. For me, the third condition is the problem. But. As Jackson reminds us "Money is the world's greatest aphrodisiac!" The thought of a tip might be able to persuade the waverers. Not to mention a bunch of flowers! . .

The number of QQ "little misses" in Shanghai is probably increasing (just my feeling).

Anyone tried this mature lovely "little miss" for 300 kuai? Or this younger "little miss" for 400 kuai?

Explore and report.

P13[/QUOTE]Could you be so kind to post their qq numbers?

[QUOTE=Dudut; 1294512]Dear All,

Actually I want to help you guys to get action with the best value available. , I'm from indonesia, I can understand english (not really good at writing though) , and speak mandarin.

There is a way to get a satisfaction service as the escort service / sauna service give, with cheaper price.

I guess you guys know about QQ girl right?

I know what you think, that they all fake. It's not true. There's also a gold mine there. Best quality, best service, best value (price)

If you are a member than you can look at the picture I upload. I don't know if its good enough for your taste. But good enough for me.

This picture are real,

And for 300 RMB 90 min you can get service such as :

1. Bath together,

2. Cosplay,

3. Rubbing using tits,

4. Ice and fire (oral sex using the cold and hot water)

5. Using tongue lick your whole body (cat bath)

6. Use pantyhose massage your xxx (more like a foot job?)

7. 69.

8. Off course the main course.

9. You can cum on face, or body, etc.

Overnight is 800 RMB. You can cum as much as you like.

Not like the escort service, you can't see their profile, in QQ girl you can see who is going to give you the service.

The cons :

Most of them don't do out-call and you have to go to their place (mostly because safety reason). I don't know if you have high standard over this kind of things. But if you don't mind. Then is a very good deal.

I don't mind share all the information that I can find with you guys. And help you arrange the meeting. Usually you have to go to the nearest subway station and give her a call, then she will direct you, or someone will pick you up.

Why you want to invest your time study mandarin? Well this thing surely paid it off. Haha.

I don't know if this information is useful for you all. I don't want to make it like an advertisement or so.

If you don't have the problem speaking mandarin. The qq of the girl is : 1164260847 she live in pudong. You can contact her directly.[/QUOTE]I will be in Shanghai for a few days and would like to hook up with one of your girls that will do anal and overnight.

[QUOTE=Pushkin13; 1295859]Try:

[url]http://www.aish002.com/forum-37-1.html[/url]

[url]http://www.langmansh.com/[/url]

[url]http://www.casualencounterschina.com/[/url]

Many of the girls cross-post (cross-advertise).

They come in all shapes and sizes. Only 1 or 2 in 100 will understand English.

Explore and report.

P13[/QUOTE][url]Http://www.shlf.info/?fromuid=355020[/url]

Hey guys, I just got back from beijing.

You can contact my number 13524731507. Please sms after 6 PM.

Maybe we should create a special task force (that have ability to speak mandarin, adventurous type. To find the best value pussy there is) , to scout, infiltrate and report, and to spread the word of "&22269; &38469; &29436; &21451;". Meaning : "international bad ass", make a good relationship with mamasan / laoban. I want to let everyone in this pleasure business industry know us. I use "&22269; &38469; &29436; &21451;" different meaning with international sex guide, to protect this forum from any leads and keep this forum from advertise bombardment. Unity means power, and with power we can break the rules. I hope in 3 months time, when we have good grounding roots (good relationship, and trust) in this pleasure business, we can make our own "sex party" hahaha.

We can meet up this Saturday, drink beer, talk about strategy and ideas, and went to have fun. Haha (I don't have much money left, spent most of it in beijing haha, but I still can take you guys to a good KTV or spa here in shanghai. I want to let you get out from your safety zone, and try things like cosplay and roleplay.haha)

atTanlines23.

Sure do. When will you be in shanghai. I can help you find the girl. You can fuck till you drop.

atScaPom.

Some of QQ girl number.

2390730626.

2367647501.

1984406159

Walked through Pudong some days ago and found a smaller MP at Nanyangjing Road close to Yushan Road.

The basic offer is the oil massage for 198. This would be for the basic back massage with HJ. During the massage the girl offered some extras. For 298 you get the ice cube treatment but still with HJ. For 398 you get the ice cubes and a tit job with of course COB. Once agreed to this she undressed got a shower and started with ice cubes on the back and front and finally took my little bro between her see-cup boobs. During this she accepted my hands everywhere. I could play with her tits and even do some fingering.

Overall experience was good and could be recommended.

Some massage gals have a qq number but no computer. How would they get a message from QQ without a computer. Does QQ forward it t their phone somehow?




Maybe we should create a special task force (that have ability to speak mandarin, adventurous type. To find the best value pussy there is) , to scout, infiltrate and report, and to spread the word of "&22269; &38469; &29436; &21451;". Meaning : "international bad ass", make a good relationship with mamasan / laoban. I want to let everyone in this pleasure business industry know us. I use "&22269; &38469; &29436; &21451;" different meaning with international sex guide, to protect this forum from any leads and keep this forum from advertise bombardment. Unity means power, and with power we can break the rules. I hope in 3 months time, when we have good grounding roots (good relationship, and trust) in this pleasure business, we can make our own "sex party" hahaha.

We can meet up this Saturday, drink beer, talk about strategy and ideas, and went to have fun. Haha (I don't have much money left, spent most of it in beijing haha, but I still can take you guys to a good KTV or spa here in shanghai. I want to let you get out from your safety zone, and try things like cosplay and roleplay. Haha)

AtTanlines23.

Sure do. When will you be in shanghai. I can help you find the girl. You can fuck till you drop.

AtScaPom.

Some of QQ girl number.

2390730626.

2367647501.

1984406159[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Beijing4987;1297269]Some massage gals have a qq number but no computer. How would they get a message from QQ without a computer. Does QQ forward it t their phone somehow?[/QUOTE]Despite all the PR hype about China having the largest number of so called netizens, fact is the overwhelming majority of Chinese access the internet via mobile phone.

[QUOTE=Arizona123;1292313]Also I've been told they sometimes quote higher for Laowai 400 BJ; 500 FS. So be careful, don't fall for it. It's 200 BJ; 300 FS.[/QUOTE]I went to the AnYuan Lu bbs strip this afternoon. From the right hand side looking at the mall. The first had ok girls. The second had 6-7 very beautiful and young girls. The third was closed and the fourth looked frumpy and later closed. This does not match other reports so maybe they move around a bit.

I went into the second of course and didn't decline the thin beauty who greeted me warmly. She wasn't quite the most beautiful but I liked her. In the typical small and grungy bbs massage room she quoted me a price of 300 for BJ and 400 for FS. In my best fake old timer jaded tones I complained "be jiou guay" that it was too expensive. In pleasant tones she confirmed that that was the price. I had to admit they were all young and beautiful, not the usual bbs homely girls. I don't like to argue about price anyway because it ruins the mood and is unflattering to the girl, so I said ok then FS.

She gave a service comperable to that in a sauna but only for max half an hour and without frills. After came a bit of massage.

What can I say. She was a breathtaking beauty and the sex was hightly skilled but not mechanical. I was great.

The BBS's along AnYuan Lu are west of ChangDe Lu and in a small mall on the north side of AnYuan. That is immediately west of ChenDe Lu.

[QUOTE=Dudut; 1297039]Hey guys, I just got back from beijing.

You can contact my number 13524731507. Please sms after 6 PM.

Maybe we should create a special task force (that have ability to speak mandarin, adventurous type. To find the best value pussy there is) , to scout, infiltrate and report, and to spread the word of "&22269; &38469; &29436; &21451;". Meaning : "international bad ass", make a good relationship with mamasan / laoban. I want to let everyone in this pleasure business industry know us. I use "&22269; &38469; &29436; &21451;" different meaning with international sex guide, to protect this forum from any leads and keep this forum from advertise bombardment. Unity means power, and with power we can break the rules. I hope in 3 months time, when we have good grounding roots (good relationship, and trust) in this pleasure business, we can make our own "sex party" hahaha.

We can meet up this Saturday, drink beer, talk about strategy and ideas, and went to have fun. Haha (I don't have much money left, spent most of it in beijing haha, but I still can take you guys to a good KTV or spa here in shanghai. I want to let you get out from your safety zone, and try things like cosplay and roleplay. Haha)

AtTanlines23.

Sure do. When will you be in shanghai. I can help you find the girl. You can fuck till you drop.

AtScaPom.

Some of QQ girl number.

2390730626.

2367647501.

1984406159[/QUOTE]Are these numbers actually girls you have tried or just some numbers on an advertising website.

I did some venturing myself last weekend and you can't really expect much from these QQ girls.

The girl I went to go see was 2293647486. The accuracy of her pictures is 90 percent, but the pictures is PS to make her skin look completely smooth. In reality its not bad nor flawless.

If you're a laowai, she won't likely go for the deal as I showed her my little bro, which is average and was reluctant to proceed. She introduce a her sister in the same building but wasn't as good looking. I told her I'll return if I don't like the looks of her sister, but I end up just leaving instead.

The unit itself was clean and tidy so that was a plus. The community is also a modern building. All her information is in her profile, passcode to her photo album 5151.

I was also trying to hit up 1164260847, but she doesn't respond to my qq.

Also in regards to Anyuan Lu BBS, you're definitely paying the laowai price as the going rate is 200 RMB for FS.

[QUOTE=Gaist Asia; 1297098]Walked through Pudong some days ago and found a smaller MP at Nanyangjing Road close to Yushan Road.

The basic offer is the oil massage for 198. This would be for the basic back massage with HJ. During the massage the girl offered some extras. For 298 you get the ice cube treatment but still with HJ. For 398 you get the ice cubes and a tit job with of course COB. Once agreed to this she undressed got a shower and started with ice cubes on the back and front and finally took my little bro between her see-cup boobs. During this she accepted my hands everywhere. I could play with her tits and even do some fingering.

Overall experience was good and could be recommended.[/QUOTE]Did this today.

Girl was a 6. 5/10.

Tits 6/10.

Body 9/10.

Face 6/10.

Pretty talkative, a pro really. Didn't do much massage, got directly into it after 25 mins or so. I have had better for less, but she did allow COT. No tip. A decent head massage after the deed and wasn't shy about taking off the clothes. I rate the experience a 7. 5/10.

Suggest you tread carefully with QQ, thier latest feature is a Linkedin style "people you may know" facility!

Suggestions for hundreds of new friends, drawn from your friend's contacts lists, but also, your contacts list being offerred to your contacts, hope nobody has more than one GF on thier QQ friends list, they could be introduced to each other. Imagine being introduced to your GF's husband! Not too mention complications with these QQ girls!

Fz.

[QUOTE=Howdy1234; 1297527]Are these numbers actually girls you have tried or just some numbers on an advertising website.

I did some venturing myself last weekend and you can't really expect much from these QQ girls.

The girl I went to go see was 2293647486. The accuracy of her pictures is 90 percent, but the pictures is PS to make her skin look completely smooth. In reality its not bad nor flawless.

If you're a laowai, she won't likely go for the deal as I showed her my little bro, which is average and was reluctant to proceed. She introduce a her sister in the same building but wasn't as good looking. I told her I'll return if I don't like the looks of her sister, but I end up just leaving instead.

The unit itself was clean and tidy so that was a plus. The community is also a modern building. All her information is in her profile, passcode to her photo album 5151.

I was also trying to hit up 1164260847, but she doesn't respond to my qq.

Also in regards to Anyuan Lu BBS, you're definitely paying the laowai price as the going rate is 200 RMB for FS.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LaoWaiSha; 1295545]Hey all, found yet another strip of BBSs' that look inviting near Nanquan & E Shan in Pudong.

Wondering if anyone has tried any in this area? There are a few next to the street, and I

Noticed a really big one hidden back behind a row of trees.

I'll give it a try this weekend and report back.[/QUOTE]So here are better directions and then to the good stuff. Exit the Lancun Road Metro station line 6 or line 4 and head North on Dongfang Road. Take a Left (head West) on Eshan Road and stay on the right hand side of the street (North side). Keep in mind that this was 6PM when I stopped by and I am an average looking 40 year old. The first little BBS you come to had some good looking girls but I didn't get any real interest from any of those working girls. Next you will come to the row of trees. Veer off to the right and stay on the sidewalk and you will find yourself in a strip of maybe 5 or 6 stores. The last on on the right is the honey hole.

This BBS will have 6. 8 STUNNING beauties! I stared up and down on the one that had the biggest tits. I asked if any of them did anal and they looked at me like I was from Mars. Then I said G&257; ngji&257; o (Gung-sheeow in plain English) and then they all giggled and shook their heads no. Oh well, I tried. So I chose the big titted **** and she had a tight blue dress on and her titties were half out. So then I asked how much for sex? She held up 3 fingers and then I held up 2 fingers. She was demanding 300, but I was saying 200. I then looked at all the other working girls and asked 200 but they all said 300. Of course, I would have fucked any one of them so it didn't matter. But I wasn't going to overpay so I said Xièxiè (thank you) and headed out the door. Then they all came running after me and said no no 200 ok! And so I took the big titted working girl for a round of fun.

She led me to the back of the shop and it opened up to a pretty nice area with 4 big bedrooms. We took the first one on the right which was down 2 steps and had a nice big shower and a sink too. Then the Queen sized bed was down another step and it was a fairly large room. She started taking off my clothes and sucked my cock without the condom. Not bad, she was my little porn star! So I took off her clothes and started fucking her bent over one of the chairs with one leg up on the seat. There was a large mirror and so I could see her face and her moans as I fucked her. Then we moved over to the bed and she climbed on top and rode me. I then turned her around for the reverse cowgirl and stuck my finger in her ass. She didn't seem to mind! So I moved her to missionary and tried to stick my dick in her ass but she said no ass! Awe fuck. So, then I fucked her mish for a little bit and then flipped her over to doggy. What a nice ass! So as I was pounding her from behind, I stuck my thumb in her ass and she didn't care. So I did a quick switch and jammed my dick in her ass and she squealed like a pig! I said sorry and flipped her back over to mish and then came on her tits.

We then got dressed and she asked me for the payment. 200 and out the door. On my way out, one of the other girls wanted me to come back and fuck her! She was saying 200 ok! But I was spent after 20 minutes of hardcore fucking. Oh how I wish I was in my 20's again!

Then I kept walking the rest of the way down the street to Nanquan Road. There was another little strip behind a small row of trees that had 2 more BBS and it looked like they each had 6 girls. But I was still spent so I never bothered stopping.

Happy hunting!

[QUOTE=Howdy1234;1297527]If you're a laowai, she won't likely go for the deal as I showed her my little bro, which is average and was reluctant to proceed. Also in regards to Anyuan Lu BBS, you're definitely paying the laowai price as the going rate is 200 RMB for FS.[/QUOTE]

I hear this big laowai dick nonsense over and over here. Just start gentle til she wakes up. If it is a big problem hold back a little. This has to be some stupid cultural cliche we are dealing with. BS

Ok I could get a bj to die for at the first bbs on the left that day for 200 but she was a bbs girl. What I am paying the laowai price for here is a service comprable to sauna as others were saying....and from beautiful young girls.

[QUOTE=Tanlines23; 1297886]So here are better directions and then to the good stuff. Exit the Lancun Road Metro station line 6 or line 4 and head North on Dongfang Road. Take a Left (head West) on Eshan Road and stay on the right hand side of the street (North side). Keep in mind that this was 6PM when I stopped by and I am an average looking 40 year old. The first little BBS you come to had some good looking girls but I didn't get any real interest from any of those working girls. Next you will come to the row of trees. Veer off to the right and stay on the sidewalk and you will find yourself in a strip of maybe 5 or 6 stores. The last on on the right is the honey hole.[/QUOTE]Hey thanks for the directions, I'm in Shanghai right now and might try this as my first BBS visit. I've had a look on google maps and I was wondering if the one you visited was right before the row of trees end on Eshan road?

[QUOTE=Howdy1234;1297527]in regards to Anyuan Lu BBS, you're definitely paying the laowai price as the going rate is 200 RMB for FS.[/QUOTE]I went back again the next day. I got the same girl and had an even better time.

It was too late to renegotiate the price so yea, I paid the laowai rate. Next place I will approach it differently.

[QUOTE=Five Aces;1297951]I hear this big laowai dick nonsense over and over here.[/QUOTE]This seemed sensible when I wrote it because I was very drunk. Now it just makes my teeth ach. Sorry guys. Of course I knew better than post while drunk.

[QUOTE=Five Aces; 1297951]I hear this big laowai dick nonsense over and over here. Just start gentle til she wakes up. If it is a big problem hold back a little. This has to be some stupid cultural cliche we are dealing with. BS.

Ok I could get a BJ to die for at the first bbs on the left that day for 200 but she was a bbs girl. What I am paying the laowai price for here is a service comprable to sauna as others were saying. And from beautiful young girls.[/QUOTE]Well, I'm just stating that the price I pay at Anyuan Lu is 200 for FS and 150 for BJ. If you want them for overnight it's 1000, but maybe cheaper. If you have a regular there and she gives a BJ to die for then stick with it. It's not easy finding good service for that price or I guess I'm really picky. If you can get better service at a BBS compare to a sauna, it would definite save on the wallet. When I heard other punter paying 400, I felt that was ridiculous and unfair just because they think you don't know. Chinese people like to call your bluff because they think they can get away with it. It's frustrating sometimes when you know the going rate and you have to haggle.

Like I said, the QQ girl was "reluctant", but if I want to proceed on, I could have. You can usually gauge their body language when they see the size. I thought myself, BS, come on, my little bro is small comparable to westerns. That's why I hate dealing with QQ girls. If you don't like what you see then your out of luck because there isn't necessary another selection nearby. I'm trying to find one of those diamonds in the rough because I like to take my time and have a nicer facilities. The board up rooms in the BBS gets disgusting sometimes.

I'll be in Pudong in a few days and want to go to a sauna. The catch is that I need to bring my cell phone with me. From what I remember, most sauna's in Shanghai make you leave it in the changing area unlike the ones in Changping. Does anyone have any recommendations? Thanks.

[QUOTE=Member #1344;1298599]I'll be in Pudong in a few days and want to go to a sauna. The catch is that I need to bring my cell phone with me. From what I remember, most sauna's in Shanghai make you leave it in the changing area unlike the ones in Changping. Does anyone have any recommendations? Thanks.[/QUOTE]It's been a while, but the last time I was at Sacrosa it was ok to keep my phone with me.

Back home in Shanghai after a long business trip. Read about Anyuan Lu in some recent posts. Not far from where I stay so I went there to have a look.

It was around 9pm and there were many people walking around, playing cards and eating on the streets. I know I shouldn't be bothered but I prefer it to be a bit more discreet.

So I was just walking along the stretch of shops. All three BBS were open. The one on the right (on Anyuan Lu facing the shops, looking north) having the biggest choice of ladies. From what I can tell from my quick glance: certainly not ugly! Next time I will go a bit later and hope there will be less people on the streets.

Fortunately there is another BBS nearby (Xikang Lu) which I had been to earlier so I went there. The choice was limited to only 3 girls, all quite ok looking though.

Going rate is 400 however after hard negotiation with papasan, using the "I am leaving now" strategy we agreed on 300.

Usually they take you to a small room right behind the area where the girls are sitting which I find a bit awkward. Told my lady that I don't like it there so she took me to a building next door.

Small flat with 3 rooms and mattresses on the floor. Not a 5 star hotel but not dirty either and I felt it provided a bit more privacy. Before we went down to business she put a new cover on the mattress which I have not seen before in those places.

Had a satisfying session for around 1 hour with her. 30 minutes of which consisted of chatting and trying to improve my language skills.

All in all FS and a Chinese lesson for 300 kuai, not so bad.

[QUOTE=Halloerstmal;1298856]Fortunately there is another BBS nearby (Xikang Lu) which I had been to earlier so I went there. The choice was limited to only 3 girls, all quite ok looking though.[/QUOTE]Where on Xikang Lu.

Phones in saunas. Varies from one to the next. Usually (HA) it is ok. That does not mean all. It can change from one visit to the next.

[QUOTE=Member #1344;1298599]I'll be in Pudong in a few days and want to go to a sauna. The catch is that I need to bring my cell phone with me. From what I remember, most sauna's in Shanghai make you leave it in the changing area unlike the ones in Changping. Does anyone have any recommendations? Thanks.[/QUOTE]

Well just got home from Manhattan bar, to save some time for you guys expecting a thorough review of who I hooked up with and what I thought, I might as well say now that I went to the hotel alone. So if you're still interested to read about it, here it comes (or rather, does not come).

I left the hotel at 23:30-ish and luck was with me as there was a taxi right outside just dropping off some guests. Well so far so good, the driver kept an honest path (I was following on gps on my phone) and a couple of yuans as tip was well deserved. I gave him the address to Big Bamboo though as I've read about the place and thought I'd grab a beer and have a look since it's so close. Got a bartender's attention, asked for a Stella which he poured off the tap and tried to serve to me with 1/3 foam, which I had to point out and get fixed. I mean if I'm going to pay the for China almost ridiculous price of 60 yuan, at least serve it to me properly. So stayed and watch some Wimbledon, don't think I'll ever go back though.

Well the clock crept past midnight and I felt it was time to go for the main course of the night, Manhattan bar. So 1 minute and like 70 steps later I'm inside and the place was packed. I have to say the "bar" part is a bit misleading, the music there was louder than most danceclubs I've been in and initially it felt good to see a place with a ratio of about 3:1 in favor of the ladies, even though I doubt there was a single female there not working tonight.

Got myself a Corona and started sipping and some details hit me one after the other. First thing is that it was very dark there except right in front ot the scene. I would have needed a flashlight if I wanted to have a good look at the people in there. Second thing is as already mentioned the music I thought was just way too loud. I was expecting it was going to be possible to have a half-way decent conversation in some places in there, but I could barely hear myself think. Third, you might think as a punter you're there to check out the girls, but in reality there are a lot more of the girls measuring how much money they can wring out of you, which I was very aware of since I was just working on my 2nd beer. And fourth and most important thing that hit me was just how very artificial it all came across to me. I mean I know I'm there to maybe pay for a girl's company, but I guess I'm still so new to punting I still want it to at least have some illusion of it being real.

After 20 mins while I was standing there in this dark room with music pounding my ears and guys almost twice my age and weight (no disrespect, I'll get there eventually too, but for now I felt quite misplaced) trying to bust a move and making me cringe while some girls were actually managing to applaud the effort, I just got a strong sense of "WTF am I doing here", drained my beer and got out of Dodge. It just wasn't for me at all, but at least I know that now instead of wondering since I was contemplating to just call it an early night as I'm still jetlagged. I have a tip though for you guys that haven't been discouraged by my narrative, if you want to have a good look at the girls just hang around behind the curtains that cover the entrance path to the bathrooms. It's a lot more light there so you can actually tell who you might actually be bringing with you to your hotel. As always YMMV, I still recommend you have a look if you're in the neightbourhood as there were quite a few cute ones there (as much as I could discern anyway). It's just the whole vibe rubbed me the wrong way, so go ahead and have a try how it feels for you.

Last but not least, right outside my hotel when I was almost at the entrance there was a tall Chinese girl just standing there alone almost totally immobile in a model pose which I clearly pegged as a WG. Funny since it's just a 3-star hotel. She looked quite good, but she had this really hard look in her eyes that told me I might as well stick it in an ice-box and slam the door a few times so instead I took a shower, wrote this essay you're reading now and going to have a nice sleep. The good news is I'll have a lot of yuans I can dine for tomorrow.

[QUOTE=Five Aces;1298920]Where on Xikang Lu.[/QUOTE]It is on the strech between Wuding Lu and Kangding Lu. There is a big residential compound opposite.

[QUOTE=Member #1344;1298599]I'll be in Pudong in a few days and want to go to a sauna. The catch is that I need to bring my cell phone with me. From what I remember, most sauna's in Shanghai make you leave it in the changing area unlike the ones in Changping. Does anyone have any recommendations? Thanks.[/QUOTE]I've never had an issue with this. You can tell the service person you are expecting an important call for business, and you can't miss it. Most of the sauna patrons will be businessmen, which is one of the reasons I assume cell phones are allowed in.

[QUOTE=Halloerstmal; 1298856]Back home in Shanghai after a long business trip. Read about Anyuan Lu in some recent posts. Not far from where I stay so I went there to have a look.

It was around 9pm and there were many people walking around, playing cards and eating on the streets. I know I shouldn't be bothered but I prefer it to be a bit more discreet.

So I was just walking along the stretch of shops. All three BBS were open. The one on the right (on Anyuan Lu facing the shops, looking north) having the biggest choice of ladies. From what I can tell from my quick glance: certainly not ugly! Next time I will go a bit later and hope there will be less people on the streets.

Fortunately there is another BBS nearby (Xikang Lu) which I had been to earlier so I went there. The choice was limited to only 3 girls, all quite ok looking though.

Going rate is 400 however after hard negotiation with papasan, using the "I am leaving now" strategy we agreed on 300.

Usually they take you to a small room right behind the area where the girls are sitting which I find a bit awkward. Told my lady that I don't like it there so she took me to a building next door.

Small flat with 3 rooms and mattresses on the floor. Not a 5 star hotel but not dirty either and I felt it provided a bit more privacy. Before we went down to business she put a new cover on the mattress which I have not seen before in those places.

Had a satisfying session for around 1 hour with her. 30 minutes of which consisted of chatting and trying to improve my language skills.

All in all FS and a Chinese lesson for 300 kuai, not so bad.[/QUOTE]To avoid too many witnesses you can go there in the afternoon. With the current temperatures the street is empty in the afternoon. Did this yesterday afternoon at 3:00 PM. Rates are 200 for BJ and 300 for FS. I ended up in the middle of the BBS. But rooms are really run down and service is just average. Maybe you should stick to Xikang Road. And I will focus to Pudong as it is closer to my home.

back to shanghai for the first time in years. went directly to my old favorite boduo (&21338; &22810; &20250; &25152. which is next to the century mart on xietu and luban roads only to find them gone! very disappointed.

so hearing so much about heting sauna elite chamber on 777 siping lu (translate to "four flat road") , i went to try it out. the location is street level on the west side of the street on the north-east corner. it has a small parking lot and an attendant out front. the entrance is nicely decorated but simply leads directly to stairs going up. at the top will be a reception desk and most likely an attendant that will immediately usher you to a men's only public dressing / seating room. they will use a two-key system that requires the worker to initiate opening the locker followed by your key to actually complete the opening. from my experience these are pretty safe lockers but if you are paranoid there is also a small safe in the locker. so then strip out of your clothes and put on the robe and bath slippers. nobody gave me any instructions and i didn't feel like hanging out with random guys in the sitting area so i opened the other door next to the lockers and was immediately intercepted by a staffer who directed me to the bathroom.

the bathroom is a mini-spa. you should go to the undressing area where there are several fully clothed male employees (weird) , take off your robe and hand it to them and show them your bracelet key so they remember to give you back your own robe. they will ask if you have any personal items in the robe (eg, cigarettes, cell phone). if you do, i believe there is an area two steps away that they can lock small items away. otherwise just say no. then you are expected to head to one of the showers to clean up. there is a large bath where the water is just only warm and then next to it is a sauna room. once you are properly cleaned up, go back to the robe deposit area, take off your bath slippers and step onto the towels where a staffer will hand you a small towel to dry off. turn around (yes, facing one or two male staffers) and dry your front as the towel staffer quickly dries your back. yes it's odd but it's expected, just do it and don't stand out. then go retrieve your robe by showing your bracelet key. the guy will again ask to confirm if you had any personal items which you can now go and retrieve. immediately nearby is an area you can put on lotion, shave, blow dry your hair, etc. once done, exit through the door you entered from and you will be intercepted again.

this staffer may ask if you are ready for a massage, answer yes and he will point you down the hall and shout to the next attendant that a customer is coming. the next staffer will usher you into a small room that is lined with about 20-30 girls in simple black dresses carrying handbags with their assigned numbers, you make your girl selection here. to me this is kind of strange to have 20-30 women staring at you from five feet away as you figure out which one is the most attractive. no fishbowl here! couldn't tell if there was an rhyme or reason to the line up. most of the girls were in their 20's and quality ranged from sixes to eights. unfortunately most did not seem very enthusiastic which made my job very easy as one girl stood out to me as being both attractive (i'd say an 8. 5, girl next door kind of cute) and attentive, #208. i walked over to her and took her hand though i suppose you could also call out her number. she slid her arms through mine, clasped my hands, and guided me through another doorway. she spoke quickly to a desk attendant, most likely to get a room assigned then lead me to the room.

the room was very nicely decorated and comfortable. she dimmed the lights slightly but still relatively bright unlike other places where they dim everything down so you can't see the girl very well. i was glad for this as she was cute and just getting better by the moment! she quickly prepared the table, offered me a bottled water, instructed me to take off the robe and to get on the massage table and "take a rest." so there i was naked on a table with a hot girl in a little black dress when she suddenly goes to the front of the room, looking very formal she announces her name, that she is pleased to be serving me tonight, and then bows. very formal. she then asks me to rest for a moment and disappears for about 5 minutes.

eventually she comes back and i'm pretty sure she went to go freshen up (who knows how long she has been waiting for customers?). this is great as she actually smells great, skin and hair are all nicely scented and her breath a little minty. it's the little things that count and she was all made up for me (personally i hate the ones that stink of cigarette breath). she then strips off her little black dress and it's then i realize she is really quite fit. in fact, in terms of being a "girl next door" she's probably more of a 9 than an 8. a quick q&a and i'm told we have 70 minutes (there's a clock that she brought in on the side table) , two pops, and that she's 20 years old and from what i can tell, she is definitely 20 years old! she suggests that we immediately get to pop #1 so that i'll have time to rest before pop #2. she starts using her mouth on me and giving me a bbj and i respond very quickly. she puts the cap on and asks who should be on top, i suggest she start on top first. she then proceeds to do a cowgirl and varies the rhythm like a true pro to draw out the fun (she's fantastic so far). then she suggests that i get on top, i then take my time playing with her excellent body. kissing starting out by pecking but quickly evolved into full on dfk. her nipples were very responsive too. once i "dove in" again she responded with heavy breathing followed by light moaning which is so much nicer than the fake screaming that one usually gets. her fingers were lightly scraping down my back and clutching occasionally, when we got near the crescendo her legs wrapped around me and really drew me in. fantastic!

once done, she pulls off the condom and for some reason pushes all the fluid down to the bottom and then exams it closely and nods. almost like she was checking the quantity or something. well, no complaints so i guess it was fine. apparently her period was near as she left a little blood on the towel on the bed which she quickly apologized for and cleaned up, no big deal to me but definitely skipping daty (too bad). she then has me lie face down and she give me a full body cat bath mixed with a tea gurgling mouth massage (sounds terrible but feels great, do we have a term for this type of massage?). this includes cleaning each finger and toe with her tongue which feels great but don't think about it too much during dfk! she also gave a very long beso negro going in three times and probing quite deeply (again, don't think about it too much). i should mention just beforehand she was very careful to clean the area very thoroughly using multiple wet wipes.

she then asks me to wait as she goes off again for another 5 minutes to freshen up. when she returns we immediately move towards building for pop #2. i ask her to sit on the edge of the bed which slightly surprises her but then she give me this devious smile and "come hither" look that just makes me want to pack her up and bring her home with me right then and there! we then proceed to an amazing dfk session then i move her on to the bed and explore her all over again. i played with her clit for a bit but she didn't have any strong response but neither did she stop me, again so much better than the fakers and the prudes, so i stopped after a while. then we lay down for some more foreplay and eventually she gently suggested that i get on with it or i will run out of time. so back to mish and then finished with some deep doggy. right at my climax her feet wrapped around my calves and kind of clenched, total gfe service!

she then cleaned up her stuff and dressed me in my robe. the towels and deep cleaning apparently is done by dedicated cleaning staff from what i saw on my way out which is a sign of a classier establishment being well run. she then lead me down the hallways and showed me to a doorway that lead again to the bathrooms as she cheerfully waived me off. bathroom was the same routine again and this time when i went out the door i told the staffer i met that i was leaving and he brought me to the door leading to my locker. after waiting in the resting / locker room for about a minute another staffer came in to do the two step unlocking procedure. i then changed and proceeded out the exit door and went to the reception desk where i paid 698 rmb which i consider to be a fantastic value for the service. then i headed back down the stairs and the attendants on the street hailed me a cab and made sure the driver knew where i was going. not a lot of cabs coming by so i had to wait some 5-10 minutes but eventually got one.

overall this was a fantastic experience that i would definitely repeat again. i would have to say that #208 was the best i've ever had. she had actually been working since 11 am and if i understood correctly, gets off at 1 am. i had her from about 11 pm so i was her last customer of the day but i would never have guessed it as she was enthusiastic, thorough, real, and completely unhurried. did i mention she was girl next door beautiful too? i only deducted one point as her stomach, though flat, was not athlete flat and she was dusky in a fit tanned looking way (though i doubt she sees much sun) whereas i prefer a bit more pale skinned. but that's rating her very strictly as i really can't recommend her enough. her breasts are b-cup, firm, and very perky. she's from fujian province which is good as her mandarin is very clear and easy to understand as some girls have some very heavy accents. i think she said she had been working there for about 3 months so she may still stick around for a while. she also said that you can call ahead to book her with at least 15 minutes notice she can be ready for your arrival.

Hey guys,

I have been living in SH for 2 months and so far I had only one experience.

I will not talk about it too much as I think that all your experiences are far better than mine. (Long story short I went to a spa / massage and I had a tit massage + handjob for 650. So when I see people having FS (I guess it means full service or full sex?) for 200-500, I would not recommend a handjob for 650 (but the place was really safe, clean, big and the girl knew how to use her hands!)).

So after this expensive HJ, I would like to experience the full thrill for less than 500. The only thing is that you guys try so many places, I do not no where to go! Also I am really noob with Shanghai, I have just been to the tourist places and near metro stations.

Here is my request: can anyone recommend me a place, where I can choose the girl (I want to have at least 6 girls lined up in front of me) , for less than 500 and which is not like a 60min walk from a metro station? I don't have a GPS but I guess I could do metro + taxi.

You guys talk about FS for 200-300-400 so I guess with 500 I have much possibilities! But the cheaper the better.

(I like petite girls in their 20's, I want to do whatever I want for 1 hour, anyway I don't do anal. If the staff or girl could speak english, would be a plus)

Pm me please, I would be greatly thankful!

[QUOTE=Gaist Asia;1299514]To avoid too many witnesses you can go there in the afternoon. With the current temperatures the street is empty in the afternoon. Did this yesterday afternoon at 3:00 PM. Rates are 200 for BJ and 300 for FS. I ended up in the middle of the BBS. But rooms are really run down and service is just average. Maybe you should stick to Xikang Road. And I will focus to Pudong as it is closer to my home.[/QUOTE]The first time I went to Anyuan Lu BBS I went to the most western one at the end. They were not young or beauties. I went in because the girl at the glass door, though just a tiny bit tuby, was young and had a nice smile. I thought that was fair enough for a BBS. I was charged 200 for BJ. Fast but pleasant service, nice readily available tits. Again I thought fair enough for a BBS,

The second time I went I wasn't so shy. I walked a little closer to the doors and got a better look. The second from the end that day had 5-6 very beautiful and young girls. The service was very good, lasting about half an hour and they insisted on charging me the laowai price of 400 for FS. I didn't really argue like I should have. These girls moved to the third BBS from the west end the next day when I went again. I just put up with the run down rooms. It wouldn't be a BBS otherwise.

So maybe there are A and B teams at play here on Anyuan Lu and elsewhere where the price varies this much from door to door?

[QUOTE=TimCha; 1299071]Well just got home from Manhattan bar, to save some time for you guys expecting a thorough review of who I hooked up with and what I thought, I might as well say now that I went to the hotel alone. So if you're still interested to read about it, here it comes (or rather, does not come).

I left the hotel at 23:30-ish and luck was with me as there was a taxi right outside just dropping off some guests. Well so far so good, the driver kept an honest path (I was following on gps on my phone) and a couple of yuans as tip was well deserved. I gave him the address to Big Bamboo though as I've read about the place and thought I'd grab a beer and have a look since it's so close. Got a bartender's attention, asked for a Stella which he poured off the tap and tried to serve to me with 1/3 foam, which I had to point out and get fixed...[/QUOTE]Well, had a recent experience at Manhattan too but from point of view it was more pleasant than yours. Arrived there with Shanghai-living friends and did not know what kind of place it was. But after just a few minutes you realize that all the girls are WG, and not Chinese girls but mostly vietnamese and phillipinian I found out when I talked with them. The music was not too loud and it was a very good partymix. So we enjoyed ourselves and had a good time. Surrounded with girls that tried to get our attention and we agreed that it's nice to be attractive and wanted even when you know it's fake and they just want your money.

After one hour or two I realised my friends had dropped off, with girls I presumed. I was a little bit fedup with all the pushy girls with very bad english skills so I sat down in a dark corner in the backside regions where the more shy and not so pushy girls also sat. One philippine girl asked me in very good english if I was tired and surprised and happy about a girl I could have a conversation with we started talking. To make a long story short, we spent the whole night together with just as much sex I could handle. Very much GFE and lots of fun and she really worked hard to make my night with her a one to remember.

Last Time, my first visit at Meerilyn I mentioned No. 827. Great Experience. This time 827 had one day off. So I choosed 839. 18 Years old proofessional Girl. Big Boobs and Chinese view is my favorite. Amazing cleaning Service. Ever got your foot cleaned by such nice boobs? She used her mouth to clean my Back. What a feeling. She did it really good. View 8. Boobs 10. Attitude 7 to 8 maybe better if I go there more often, Worth a recommondation? YES.

[QUOTE=Ralf64;1300007]Last Time, my first visit at Meerilyn I mentioned No. 827. Great Experience. This time 827 had one day off. So I choosed 839. 18 Years old proofessional Girl. Big Boobs and Chinese view is my favorite. Amazing cleaning Service. Ever got your foot cleaned by such nice boobs? She used her mouth to clean my Back. What a feeling. She did it really good. View 8. Boobs 10. Attitude 7 to 8 maybe better if I go there more often, Worth a recommondation? YES.[/QUOTE]Could you provide the address?

Thanks

Yesterday night had a fast tour at Manhattan after long time. Scene as usual, but. 2 amazing black onces. I like them!

New trand for the place or something occasionally?

In general, where is possible to find some blacks in the city?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Emzchi; 1300262]Could you provide the address?

Thanks[/QUOTE]I think he is taking about the Si Yuan Sauna in the

Merrylin Hotel in Pudong Shanghai.

The place is easy to find.

Location:

Si Yuan Massage.

&24605; &28304; &20465; &20048; &37096;

&24352; &26472; &36335; 818&21495; &65292; 3&27004;

Zhang Yang Lu 818, third floor, Pudong.

Phone: 0086-21-5835-2111

[QUOTE=Shanghai Guide; 1300356]I think he is taking about the Si Yuan Sauna in the

Merrylin Hotel in Pudong Shanghai.

The place is easy to find.

Location:

Si Yuan Massage.

&24605; &28304; &20465; &20048; &37096;

&24352; &26472; &36335; 818&21495; &65292; 3&27004;

Zhang Yang Lu 818, third floor, Pudong.

Phone: 0086-21-5835-2111[/QUOTE]You are right. Go straight into the Mainentrance and use the elevator opposite to the frontdesk. 3 floor you will go directly into the Saunaplace.

[QUOTE=Emzchi; 1300263]Yesterday night had a fast tour at Manhattan after long time. Scene as usual, but. 2 amazing black onces. I like them!

New trand for the place or something occasionally?

In general, where is possible to find some blacks in the city?

Thanks[/QUOTE]You can find some of them in LUNA in Xin Tian Di, there are usually about 3-4 of them very night.

I went back to Anyuan Lu yet again. After 7:30 there was only one place open and the girls were sitting in the dark. The girls who was at the door took me in for BJ and tried for 300. I put up two fingers for 200. She said oh no, I said oh yes that's the price. She agreed but kept up trying for more once or twice. I didn't like her but figured who could ruin a BJ.

She proceeded to do a bad covered BJ. I had to tell her to take it easy twice until I noticed the cap and just told her to stop and paid her. I knew she wasn't my type as soon as I saw her anyway. The lesson for me is to be explicit when I tell them what I want (no condom CIM) and to not be afraid to pick a different girls who I might like better.

After stopping her half way through the job the only thing I could do would be go to the next BBS on the street and try again. But they were all closed. Anyway, on my way out the girl who I paid to stop and leave me alone came back pushing a small kitten like beauty who I liked on the spot. She offered to finish the job which she did in the best form and for 200. I just can't win here with the money.

[QUOTE=Five Aces; 1299741]The first time I went to Anyuan Lu BBS I went to the most western one at the end. They were not young or beauties. I went in because the girl at the glass door, though just a tiny bit tuby, was young and had a nice smile. I thought that was fair enough for a BBS. I was charged 200 for BJ. Fast but pleasant service, nice readily available tits. Again I thought fair enough for a BBS,

The second time I went I wasn't so shy. I walked a little closer to the doors and got a better look. The second from the end that day had 5-6 very beautiful and young girls. The service was very good, lasting about half an hour and they insisted on charging me the laowai price of 400 for FS. I didn't really argue like I should have. These girls moved to the third BBS from the west end the next day when I went again. I just put up with the run down rooms. It wouldn't be a BBS otherwise.

So maybe there are A and B teams at play here on Anyuan Lu and elsewhere where the price varies this much from door to door?[/QUOTE]

Went to the first one. Guy waved me in. I picked a girl. She said she was 19. Not a bad looker. Not skinny and that's ok. Played around a bi t getting undressed. Nice little titties but she wasn't into having them sucked. To fondle was acceptable. Stripped her pants and looked at the pussy. And then tasted it. She liked that. Bucked and ground her pussy into my mouth for maybe ten minutes. Blew me bare and we worked didi into that pussy. Went well even though she pulled away some but once we were in she was tight and held onto him for dear life. So he gave up the ghost and it was over. Snuggle a little and she walked me out. Went back couple days later and she wasn't there. Picked another, older, bigger, but fuck able. This was business. Fondle the tits, lick them, eat the pussy 2 minutes. Spread her legs and covered him up. Blew my load. Waled out. She asked for 3. I declined. Went back couple days later first girl was their. Shook her head. No. Second girl was there also shook her head no. Other 2 girls both shook their heads no. So I went up the street. Guy inside I held up 2 fingers he shook his head I turned and picked out an early 20's girl. Not skinny but fuck able. Into the room, played a little, ate her out, capped the little bugger and as soon as he got close to the pussy she was in pain. That tong in Chinese. Bullshit. The dick isn't that big. Some Chinese girls like it. I paid the 200 on the way out to the guy and gave him the no fuck sign. A finger bumping a fist. Not getting into the fist.

So 3 tries. 1 acceptable (good enough to try a repeat) .1 barely pass and one fucking disaster.

YMMV. It will be a long time before I try again.

[QUOTE=Fudan; 1299695]Here is my request: can anyone recommend me a place, where I can choose the girl (I want to have at least 6 girls lined up in front of me) , for less than 500 and which is not like a 60min walk from a metro station? I don't have a GPS but I guess I could do metro + taxi.

You guys talk about FS for 200-300-400 so I guess with 500 I have much possibilities! But the cheaper the better.

(I like petite girls in their 20's, I want to do whatever I want for 1 hour, anyway I don't do anal. If the staff or girl could speak english, would be a plus)

Pm me please, I would be greatly thankful![/QUOTE]I guess your one experience was in Pudong? Puxi usually has more choices and price is cheaper.

For 200-300-400 FS, usually you can only find it in BBS. It is not very clean and not much service. Time-wise usually it is 15 min or under for 1 pop. If you don't finish, they get very impatient. And choices usually not very good. You will not have 6 girls lined up for you to choose most of time. You will definitely not be able to find someone that speaks English.

If you want longer service, and do whatever you want, I take you mean more than 1 shot, you have to go to sauna. Cost for sauna is around 800-1000. You can find some popular ones in recent postings.

Hope that helps.

[quote=tryfor5; 1299629]back to shanghai for the first time in years. went directly to my old favorite boduo (&21338; &22810; &20250; &25152. which is next to the century mart on xietu and luban roads only to find them gone! very disappointed.

so hearing so much about heting sauna elite chamber on 777 siping lu (translate to "four flat road") , i went to try it out. the location is street level on the west side of the street on the north-east corner. it has a small parking lot and an attendant out front. the entrance is nicely decorated but simply leads directly to stairs going up. at the top will be a reception desk and most likely an attendant that will immediately usher you to a men's only public dressing / seating room. they will use a two-key system that requires the worker to initiate opening the locker followed by your key to actually complete the opening. from my experience these are pretty safe lockers but if you are paranoid there is also a small safe in the locker. so then strip out of your clothes and put on the robe and bath slippers. nobody gave me any instructions and i didn't feel like hanging out with random guys in the sitting area so i opened the other door next to the lockers and was immediately intercepted by a staffer who directed me to the bathroom.

the bathroom is a mini-spa. you should go to the undressing area where there are several fully clothed male employees (weird) , take off your robe and hand it to them and show them your bracelet key so they remember to give you back your own robe. they will ask if you have any personal items in the robe (eg, cigarettes, cell phone). if you do, i believe there is an area two steps away that they can lock small items away. otherwise just say no. then you are expected to head to one of the showers to clean up. there is a large bath where the water is just only warm and then next to it is a sauna room. once you are properly cleaned up, go back to the robe deposit area, take off your bath slippers and step onto the towels where a staffer will hand you a small towel to dry off. turn around (yes, facing one or two male staffers) and dry your front as the towel staffer quickly dries your back. yes it's odd but it's expected, just do it and don't stand out. then go retrieve your robe by showing your bracelet key. the guy will again ask to confirm if you had any personal items which you can now go and retrieve. immediately nearby is an area you can put on lotion, shave, blow dry your hair, etc. once done, exit through the door you entered from and you will be intercepted again.

this staffer may ask if you are ready for a massage, answer yes and he will point you down the hall and shout to the next attendant that a customer is coming. the next staffer will usher you into a small room that is lined with about 20-30 girls in simple black dresses carrying handbags with their assigned numbers, you make your girl selection here. to me this is kind of strange to have 20-30 women staring at you from five feet away as you figure out which one is the most attractive. no fishbowl here! couldn't tell if there was an rhyme or reason to the line up. most of the girls were in their 20's and quality ranged from sixes to eights. unfortunately most did not seem very enthusiastic which made my job very easy as one girl stood out to me as being both attractive (i'd say an 8. 5, girl next door kind of cute) and attentive, #208. i walked over to her and took her hand though i suppose you could also call out her number. she slid her arms through mine, clasped my hands, and guided me through another doorway. she spoke quickly to a desk attendant, most likely to get a room assigned then lead me to the room.

the room was very nicely decorated and comfortable. she dimmed the lights slightly but still relatively bright unlike other places where they dim everything down so you can't see the girl very well. i was glad for this as she was cute and just getting better by the moment! she quickly prepared the table, offered me a bottled water, instructed me to take off the robe and to get on the massage table and "take a rest." so there i was naked on a table with a hot girl in a little black dress when she suddenly goes to the front of the room, looking very formal she announces her name, that she is pleased to be serving me tonight, and then bows. very formal. she then asks me to rest for a moment and disappears for about 5 minutes.

eventually she comes back and i'm pretty sure she went to go freshen up (who knows how long she has been waiting for customers?). this is great as she actually smells great, skin and hair are all nicely scented and her breath a little minty. it's the little things that count and she was all made up for me (personally i hate the ones that stink of cigarette breath). she then strips off her little black dress and it's then i realize she is really quite fit. in fact, in terms of being a "girl next door" she's probably more of a 9 than an 8. a quick q&a and i'm told we have 70 minutes (there's a clock that she brought in on the side table) , two pops, and that she's 20 years old and from what i can tell, she is definitely 20 years old! she suggests that we immediately get to pop #1 so that i'll have time to rest before pop #2. she starts using her mouth on me and giving me a bbj and i respond very quickly. she puts the cap on and asks who should be on top, i suggest she start on top first. she then proceeds to do a cowgirl and varies the rhythm like a true pro to draw out the fun (she's fantastic so far). then she suggests that i get on top, i then take my time playing with her excellent body. kissing starting out by pecking but quickly evolved into full on dfk. her nipples were very responsive too. once i "dove in" again she responded with heavy breathing followed by light moaning which is so much nicer than the fake screaming that one usually gets. her fingers were lightly scraping down my back and clutching occasionally, when we got near the crescendo her legs wrapped around me and really drew me in. fantastic!

once done, she pulls off the condom and for some reason pushes all the fluid down to the bottom and then exams it closely and nods. almost like she was checking the quantity or something. well, no complaints so i guess it was fine. apparently her period was near as she left a little blood on the towel on the bed which she quickly apologized for and cleaned up, no big deal to me but definitely skipping daty (too bad). she then has me lie face down and she give me a full body cat bath mixed with a tea gurgling mouth massage (sounds terrible but feels great, do we have a term for this type of massage?). this includes cleaning each finger and toe with her tongue which feels great but don't think about it too much during dfk! she also gave a very long beso negro going in three times and probing quite deeply (again, don't think about it too much). i should mention just beforehand she was very careful to clean the area very thoroughly using multiple wet wipes.

she then asks me to wait as she goes off again for another 5 minutes to freshen up. when she returns we immediately move towards building for pop #2. i ask her to sit on the edge of the bed which slightly surprises her but then she give me this devious smile and "come hither" look that just makes me want to pack her up and bring her home with me right then and there! we then proceed to an amazing dfk session then i move her on to the bed and explore her all over again. i played with her clit for a bit but she didn't have any strong response but neither did she stop me, again so much better than the fakers and the prudes, so i stopped after a while. then we lay down for some more foreplay and eventually she gently suggested that i get on with it or i will run out of time. so back to mish and then finished with some deep doggy. right at my climax her feet wrapped around my calves and kind of clenched, total gfe service!

she then cleaned up her stuff and dressed me in my robe. the towels and deep cleaning apparently is done by dedicated cleaning staff from what i saw on my way out which is a sign of a classier establishment being well run. she then lead me down the hallways and showed me to a doorway that lead again to the bathrooms as she cheerfully waived me off. bathroom was the same routine again and this time when i went out the door i told the staffer i met that i was leaving and he brought me to the door leading to my locker. after waiting in the resting / locker room for about a minute another staffer came in to do the two step unlocking procedure. i then changed and proceeded out the exit door and went to the reception desk where i paid 698 rmb which i consider to be a fantastic value for the service. then i headed back down the stairs and the attendants on the street hailed me a cab and made sure the driver knew where i was going. not a lot of cabs coming by so i had to wait some 5-10 minutes but eventually got one.

overall this was a fantastic experience that i would definitely repeat again. i would have to say that #208 was the best i've ever had. she had actually been working since 11 am and if i understood correctly, gets off at 1 am. i had her from about 11 pm so i was her last customer of the day but i would never have guessed it as she was enthusiastic, thorough, real, and completely unhurried. did i mention she was girl next door beautiful too? i only deducted one point as her stomach, though flat, was not athlete flat and she was dusky in a fit tanned looking way (though i doubt she sees much sun) whereas i prefer a bit more pale skinned. but that's rating her very strictly as i really can't recommend her enough. her breasts are b-cup, firm, and very perky. she's from fujian province which is good as her mandarin is very clear and easy to understand as some girls have some very heavy accents. i think she said she had been working there for about 3 months so she may still stick around for a while. she also said that you can call ahead to book her with at least 15 minutes notice she can be ready for your arrival.[/quote]boduo has been gone for loooonnnngggg time. at least 3 years now. it was one of my favorite places too.

[QUOTE=Halloerstmal;1299195]It is on the strech between Wuding Lu and Kangding Lu. There is a big residential compound opposite.[/QUOTE]Outside sign indicates it is a bar. Only 3 choices and usually don't change much, unless the girl is on her monthly break. When I went few months ago, quality was terrible, all 3 of them. So I stop going there and go to the ones on Anyuan road instead.

[QUOTE=Tryfor5; 1299629]Back to Shanghai for the first time in years. Went directly to my old favorite Boduo (&21338; &22810; &20250; &25152. Which is next to the Century Mart on Xietu and Luban roads only to find them gone! Very disappointed.

So hearing so much about Heting Sauna Elite Chamber on 777 Siping Lu (translate to "four flat road") , I went to try it out. The location is street level on the west side of the street on the north-east corner. It has a small parking lot and an attendant out front. The entrance is nicely decorated but simply leads directly to stairs going up.[/QUOTE]Went to the sauna mentioned. Note that the sauna doesn't have any signboard but you'll see it as a curved building with a small parking area down there. Hell, if you zookm in close enough on Google maps, its actually located SOMEWHERE north of the indicated area.

My few quick points:

If you're coming here, it's because of the following:

1. The decor is one of the best FS spas saunas that I've ever seen in my whole life. Not sure if this quintessentially shanghainese, but it sure is very over the top. What I hate about the decor, is that the whole place is built like a maze. When the girls bring you to the room, you have the feeling that if you run, you might not find your way out. And I hate the carpet. It's not well installed, so I actually tripped a couple of times.

2. You get two shots. One at the start, then the girl does her magic "massage" techniques on you, and then finishes off with another shot.

3. Mad skills on their "massage". Try it out. Involves alot of fire and ice and sucking. I actually never experienced that before. Especially the back sucking draw technique. Try it out.

4. Drinks and food free. Plus usage of facilities too.

5. Damage is 698.

6. BBBJ and CIM yeah.

What I dislike about this place:

1. Got to get there early. I got there at about 11plus pm, and had to wait 30mins. And the remaining girls that were left were like crap. There were only like 8 left, even the guy who went in just a few steps in front of me complained and wanted to wait for more girls to free up.

2. Girl quality is low. I saw 4-7 only. Some of them have big boobies so whatever rocks your boat. That also means they're fat. Again, get there early. Unfortunately I didn't see number 208.

3. Fish bowl sure makes things less awkward.

4. Girls were tired and painful from all the kneeling. Guess who had to do most of the pumping work? Again, get there early. Maybe during your lunch break perhaps?

I'll stick with siyuan next time. Only tried merrilyn, haven't tried bodi. Which is better?

[QUOTE=Equine;1300790]I'll stick with siyuan next time. Only tried merrilyn, haven't tried bodi. Which is better?[/QUOTE]The service quality at SiYuan and Bodi are pretty much the same, not surprising considering they are operated by the same group.

But Bodi typically has a larger crew of girls to pick from, and the bed is slightly better perhaps compliments of the hotel wing next door.

There is one more thing I don't like about Heting, it has no soapy massage service and they only take cash.

[QUOTE=Carage; 1300846]The service quality at SiYuan and Bodi are pretty much the same, not surprising considering they are operated by the same group.

But Bodi typically has a larger crew of girls to pick from, and the bed is slightly better perhaps compliments of the hotel wing next door.

There is one more thing I don't like about Heting, it has no soapy massage service and they only take cash.[/QUOTE]So Heiting is not owned and operated by the same group as SiYuan and Bodi? How about the "kidney massage" after the deed is done, do they have that at Heiting?

By the way I tried the kidney massage at Southern Massage. Damage was RMB350 if you had action prior to the massage, or RMB500 if you're there only for the kidney massage. It's actually quite enjoyable if you get the right girl.

Field report on Southern Massage next.

After more than a little effort I found Sacrosa yesterday. Thought these directions and photos might help some other horny soul who has less time.

Address: 5F, Hua Shen Tower. 1085 Pudou Road (S)

Telephone: +82 (0) 21-5835 2261.

How to get there:

Take metro / subway line 9 to Shangchen Road Station.

Leave by exit 3.

When you get above ground you will see the "SHINMAY UNION SQUARE" shopping mall on your left. About 10 metres.

Enter through main doors and walk straight ahead and out the back door.

The building directly in front of you is the correct place, spot the address "1085" on the right side.

(there is currently a red Chinese fastfood joint called "Yonghe King or maybe Yonche King" on the righthand side of the entrance as you face it)

Walk into a dim lobby past a guard and to the elevator banks with 3 lifts. Go to 5th floor.

Will try to post a few pix

[QUOTE=Arizona123; 1300863]So Heiting is not owned and operated by the same group as SiYuan and Bodi? How about the "kidney massage" after the deed is done, do they have that at Heiting?

By the way I tried the kidney massage at Southern Massage. Damage was RMB350 if you had action prior to the massage, or RMB500 if you're there only for the kidney massage. It's actually quite enjoyable if you get the right girl.

Field report on Southern Massage next.[/QUOTE]SiYuan, Bodi, Southern. 999, Waves are all owned and operated by the same group.

There are two more places in the group but I can't remember the names now.

So the SOP and level of service is about the same at these venues.

They also routinely rotate the girls between these places.

I don't think they have the kidney massage at Heting. I doubt there is anything to do at Heting after the main deal other than watch TV, and enjoy the free food. The food quality is actually decent compared to other sauna places that offer complimentary food and drink. And given the design and popularity of the resting lounge, it may be really awkward to get a kidney massage at Heting unless you are an exhibitionist.

[QUOTE=Emzchi;1300263]YesterdIn general, where is possible to find some blacks in the city?[/QUOTE]In May Xin Tian Di was best place I found for African girls. Plenty there.

Luna and Brown Sugar. Both places will have an assortment after 9 to 10pm

[QUOTE=Brooklyn Cyclone; 1300727]I guess your one experience was in Pudong? Puxi usually has more choices and price is cheaper.

For 200-300-400 FS, usually you can only find it in BBS. It is not very clean and not much service. Time-wise usually it is 15 min or under for 1 pop. If you don't finish, they get very impatient. And choices usually not very good. You will not have 6 girls lined up for you to choose most of time. You will definitely not be able to find someone that speaks English.

If you want longer service, and do whatever you want, I take you mean more than 1 shot, you have to go to sauna. Cost for sauna is around 800-1000. You can find some popular ones in recent postings.

Hope that helps.[/QUOTE]Mmmm so 300 for 15 min is the price in a BBS right? Well I guess if I say "500 for 45 min", she won't refuse! Not trying to be pretentious but 15 min is not do able for me!

My experience was in "east wengshui road", in a really nice looking hotel / spa. Why there? Because it is really close to Fudan university where I study. I would not recommend that place as the one on 777 Siping Lu seems to offer A LOT MORE for +50rmb. (I had a tit massage + HJ for 650, 777 siping lu offer 2 pops and FS for 698 from what I read.)

How do you spot "new bbs" anyway? The ones in Anuyan Lu seem pretty famous but, I have been scouting the Fudan University area, Yangpu district (well I am not really expecting to find a BBS in front of a teaching building.) and I couldn't find anything. All the hair salons around my place have male staff! Couldn't find any hairsalon / BBS with an "underground" look and two smiling girls at the door.

If I find something in Yangpu district, I will let you know guys.

[QUOTE=Fudan; 1301099]How do you spot "new bbs" anyway? The ones in Anuyan Lu seem pretty famous but, I have been scouting the Fudan University area, Yangpu district (well I am not really expecting to find a BBS in front of a teaching building.) and I couldn't find anything. All the hair salons around my place have male staff! Couldn't find any hairsalon / BBS with an "underground" look and two smiling girls at the door.

If I find something in Yangpu district, I will let you know guys.[/QUOTE]Try out Zhengli road north of of Fudan and Caijing university, you should find enough BBS. When I lived there around 1 year ago there where around 15 BBS walking from Guoding road to qipu road.

[QUOTE=Fudan; 1301099]Mmmm so 300 for 15 min is the price in a BBS right? Well I guess if I say "500 for 45 min", she won't refuse! Not trying to be pretentious but 15 min is not do able for me!

My experience was in "east wengshui road", in a really nice looking hotel / spa. Why there? Because it is really close to Fudan university where I study. I would not recommend that place as the one on 777 Siping Lu seems to offer A LOT MORE for +50rmb. (I had a tit massage + HJ for 650, 777 siping lu offer 2 pops and FS for 698 from what I read.)

How do you spot "new bbs" anyway? The ones in Anuyan Lu seem pretty famous but, I have been scouting the Fudan University area, Yangpu district (well I am not really expecting to find a BBS in front of a teaching building.) and I couldn't find anything. All the hair salons around my place have male staff! Couldn't find any hairsalon / BBS with an "underground" look and two smiling girls at the door.

If I find something in Yangpu district, I will let you know guys.[/QUOTE]I know two venues around the Fudan area. And both aren't that good. At least from a sauna perspective, not sure about bbs activity.

Xing Chen Sauna (inside the large Xing Chen KTV / Restaurant building) located on 2009 Huang Xing Road.

Horrible service, the worse service I had experienced in any sauna in Shanghai.

The suited guys in the changing area don't care about the customer at all.

Girl selection is poor. I think the price is around 500.

Sadly, the only attractive girl I saw in the operation was the girl who gave me a foot massage after the main dish.

Never went back again.

And you might be wrong about one thing. Right across Fudan you will see the Fudan Crown Plaza Hotel, next to it is a plaza called Handan 173 or Fudan 173. Inside the plaza is a large public bath house called Zhou Ji the Yu Chang (Intercontinental Bath House) , it looks like a regular sauna bathhouse, it even welcomes female guests. But male customers will be offered a option for extra massage after they change into the robes, then the staff will take you into a secret elevator and will assign you a room on the 5th or 6th floor. Then a girl will walk in. I am not sure about girl selection, like how many times can you refuse. Anyway, the girl will give you a pseudo massage then straight to riding you. Service is ok, price also around 500ish.

But never went there again because I think I saw someone I shouldn't be seeing while coming down from the 6th floor.

[QUOTE=Roger9;1301213]Try out Zhengli road north of of Fudan and Caijing university, you should find enough BBS. When I lived there around 1 year ago there where around 15 BBS walking from Guoding road to qipu road.[/QUOTE]I don't really want to waste 1hour taking the subway to anuyan lu so thanks for the help!

Yeah I had huge suspicions about some stores in that street (there is even a sexshop.) and actually I checked it like 2 nights ago and I don't know why but a lot of places were closed. And the opened hair salons were again, operated by men. But I will check again and let you know. Who knows, maybe I'll find a honey hole.

Does anyone know any good MPs in the former french concession? I live near Changle Lu and Fumin Lu and would like to find one near by.

I have gone to the one on Shanxi and Chanping Lu more times than I care to admit and would like to expand my horizons. (I have been satisfied there, though for 206Y)

Please provide a somewhat detail description on how to find it.

I went to one last night described here as "off an alley on Wulumqi Lu near Wanhangdu lu" and it turned out to be legitimate.

I did get a good massage, but that was not what I was looking for!

On that note, I use to live in Shenzhen and it seemed almost all the MP offered extra services. In fact, that is what they did.

Here it seems that is not the case. I am not sure of this, I haven't been to too many.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Roger9;1301213]Try out Zhengli road north of of Fudan and Caijing university, you should find enough BBS. When I lived there around 1 year ago there where around 15 BBS walking from Guoding road to qipu road.[/QUOTE]Scouting report:

I will be brief: indeed, Zhengli Lu, north of fudan University and the parallel streets are "crowded with BBS". I don't know why, they seem to close pretty early, last time I went was 10:30pm and I couldn't find one. Today I went around 4pm and I was like "oh my god, all those closed places were actually BBS". And I've lived there for 2 months (but I never go north of fudan ).

Also each time I visited Zhengli Lu, I didn't go up to "Jipu road" and most of the pussies are in that area.

From what I have seen, there is a lot of choice, from the really good looking 20 years old petite or tall Chinese girl to the late 30's chubby one.

I have seen at least 10 BBS, maybe 15 indeed. The most interesting part were 3 or 4 BBS with really good looking girl (like korean pop star) who waved at me and saying "come come!". Each one was wearing a sexy outfit with a different color, as I said they looked like a korean pop star band.

The most annoying part was the old girls (not working anymore but just watching the store.) almost screaming in the street "hey! Hey! Hello!" when I passed by. I wanted to say "what the f*ck, could you make it more obvious please? Just in case the people don't understand!".

Anyway today was just the scouting part, I swear if you are tired of your BBS on Anuyan, you should try that street."Zhengli road", metro line 3, station Jiangwan town, exit 1. Head north under the elevated road, take a right and enjoy (north side of the street ).

I am sure that some have really cute girls. I might try tomorrow if I have the balls to do it (my first one ). I just already feel tired of entering, saying "this one for 300" and she would be like "no. 400" etc etc. I don't want to fight haha.

Sounds like fun! Contact me via PM.

[QUOTE=Dudut; 1294890]Anyone interested hunting QQ girl together?

I have lots of them. No time to check them all. And limited cash hahaha.

The pros :

Cheap 300/800, good service (SPA service) , GFE (for sure and you can have a cosplay also, foot job. You can cum on their face also. Haha for hardcore).9-10 face. Not kidding here. Real deal.

The cons :

Well you need to go to their place, no out call.

If you want to try this experience.

I can send you their picture. And explain to you their service. Some will do anal, some won't, some even can cum on their mouth. Arrange the meeting, I can take you to their place (I know sometimes new stuff can be scary, and the Chinese have the reputation on fooling laowai).

I don't know if I can post my number / yahoo messenger here. Maybe you can sent me a PM?

I upload one of their photo.

I will go to beijing on 22-24 for vacation. I'm from indonesia, can speak both mandarin and english. This forum help me become the man I am now. Haha, so its time to payback to community.

Good bye buying "cat's in the bag".

-[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Brooklyn Cyclone]Once done, she pulls off the condom and for some reason pushes all the fluid down to the bottom and then exams it closely and nods. Almost like she was checking the quantity or something.[/QUOTE]She was checking that it had not broken or leaked. If she is not reassured by the quantity you supplied she might pour water inside to check for leaks!

Hello. I am new in shanghai. Just want to have fun. However, I am not interested in asian girls. So where to find those Russian girls?

So tonight I went for it on Zhengli road. Around 9:30pm, most (not to say all) BBS were opened.

The most important information that you might want to read again is: 10BBS+, each with a selection from 3 to 6+ girls, from "ok girl" to "oh my god are you korean singer? Girl".

300 for FS was easy to get, pretty sure you can get it for lower price. With all BBS, the crew must be like 50+ girls just waiting so I think they won't refuse even 200.

And the best part is that those 10 BBS + are in the same street, same side of the road and from the first one to last one is maybe a 5 min walk. And everything is from 200 to 500m away from metro line 3. (you can find some BBS a little further away but the best selection seems to be packed here)

Now the story and details of how it went (for the curious)

The light is really low and you can't see "in details" from the street. Well you can see that BBS have from 3 to 6 girls and they come in all sizes and shapes.

But as I said before, it is so weird that some BBS just have a crew of 5-6 girls really good looking and the one next door has 2-3 girls not so good looking. I mean: who would go for the 3 "ok girls" when you can chose among 6 hotties? Maybe it's just the discount places for the locals.

Anyway I went for one of the last BBS on Zhengli road (last from Fudan which means one of the first if you come by metro line 3 ). Why this one? Well I have to admit that the hotties were in some previous BBS but mine was the last on the street and the "manager girl" was outside, looking pretty hot herself (I would have do her!) and pushed me a little with a nice "hey come, *Chinese I can't understand*". In other BBS, all the hotties are packed in a room, it looks really dark and I couldn't step inside that store with 6 girls looking at me for my first time. Thats why I chose the one with the door already opened and the manager girl outside.

So I am like "ok what the hell, I am just going to ask the price and see if she can speak some english", so I come to her and say "hey!", she is like "ok come to the store", I tell her "wait wait wait, price?", she doesn't understand, I say "eee? Rrrrr? San bei?", she says "ok ok san bei" and she shows me her mouth. I say "san bei" and I show the whole body, she really easily says "ok ok san bei". I am a newbie at this but I'm sure that someone with experience could get it for 200.

I enter the room, only 2 girls (others sounded busy.) but both look pretty decent. One was more like the +50kg Kind and the other the. 50kg kind. I chose the tight one. The manager girl says nicely "pay now" so I give her 300. The girl takes me to the back, she tries to open a door but its locked and sounds busy. So she takes me to a bed which was almost in the "waiting room", just had a sliding wooden panel. I am like "ah whatever, this is just for the fun". I sat on the bed, it was really f*king hard, pretty sure it was wood. She takes a condom and some kind of napkins from her purse, she tells me to pull down my pants, which I did. I was harder than the freaking oriental tower. She cleans my financial district with the napkins and starts sucking. Not my best blowjob, not my worst, just a good one. The thing is that I could hear the guy next door banging an other girl. Well actually I could hear the girl next door screaming, which really turned me on and I was getting sucked at the same time.

After 3 minutes she stops, put on the condom, goes missionary and open her legs. I went in and honestly, I went for like 10 strokes and. I couldn't hold it, it felt like my first time haha. I was like "what the f* what happened to me?". I am honestly in the "1 hour with a girlfriend is the average" familly but sometimes shit happen! Long time I didn't have an accident though.

I guess she was happy it didn't last because she really didn't seem into the GFE and was mechanical. Now that I think about it, I should have chosen the other one which, as usual, looked way more happy and funny. But stupid little bro chose the hot / tight on.

Anyway I was kind of ashamed because that kind of thing didn't happen to me since I was like 18 (I am 24 now) but what the hell, that was my first BBS! Was a bit too much.

When we went out, the other girl was still waiting and smiling. The girl I banged said "bye" and I heard the other one, still really happy almost screaming "bye byyyyyyyyye" to me, like a "please next time come and do me".

Conclusion: A bad experience? Yes and no and if yes, I can only be mad at my stupid little bro who acted like a teenager! The BJ was pretty good, she could have easily made me go into her mouth. My first time in a BBS so it was funny anyway.

Again I read many reports saying "I chose the hottest one but I should have taken the other girl who looked way more funny", can't agree more! Next time I will not chose the girl, I will let a girl chose me.

Also don't judge the neighborhood from my girl + my "bedroom", there are a lot more BBS and girls in that street, pretty sure you can get some good deals.

And Finally, if you try to scout this area and these girls, don't try to remember the location of the girls, I think they move from one BBS to an other, even during the day.

[QUOTE=Duronston;1301677]Hello. I am new in shanghai. Just want to have fun. However, I am not interested in asian girls. So where to find those Russian girls?[/QUOTE]WOW,

I have to admit that this one is a BIG surprise. Mr. D, I suspect you are in for a LONG. Dry spell or at least one that turns out to be VERY expensive.

I can't imagine being in one of the largest cities in CHINA and not being interested in Asian girls.

I wish you happy hunting, but odds are you are going to become at least mildly,"interested" in Asian girls.

The only place that I know of that consistently has "white girls" is Bar Rouge on the Bund. Happy Hunting!

[QUOTE=Duronston;1301677]Hello. I am new in shanghai. Just want to have fun. However, I am not interested in asian girls. So where to find those Russian girls?[/QUOTE]Lets see, move to Shanghai but interested in Russian girls, hmmm perhaps you should move to Russia.

PC out

[QUOTE=Equine; 1300790]Went to the sauna mentioned. Note that the sauna doesn't have any signboard but you'll see it as a curved building with a small parking area down there. Hell, if you zookm in close enough on Google maps, its actually located SOMEWHERE north of the indicated area.

My few quick points:

If you're coming here, it's because of the following:

1. The decor is one of the best FS spas saunas that I've ever seen in my whole life. Not sure if this quintessentially shanghainese, but it sure is very over the top. What I hate about the decor, is that the whole place is built like a maze. When the girls bring you to the room, you have the feeling that if you run, you might not find your way out. And I hate the carpet. It's not well installed, so I actually tripped a couple of times.

2. You get two shots. One at the start, then the girl does her magic "massage" techniques on you, and then finishes off with another shot.

3. Mad skills on their "massage". Try it out. Involves alot of fire and ice and sucking. I actually never experienced that before. Especially the back sucking draw technique. Try it out.

4. Drinks and food free. Plus usage of facilities too.

5. Damage is 698.

6. BBBJ and CIM yeah.

What I dislike about this place:

1. Got to get there early. I got there at about 11plus pm, and had to wait 30mins. And the remaining girls that were left were like crap. There were only like 8 left, even the guy who went in just a few steps in front of me complained and wanted to wait for more girls to free up.

2. Girl quality is low. I saw 4-7 only. Some of them have big boobies so whatever rocks your boat. That also means they're fat. Again, get there early. Unfortunately I didn't see number 208.

3. Fish bowl sure makes things less awkward.

4. Girls were tired and painful from all the kneeling. Guess who had to do most of the pumping work? Again, get there early. Maybe during your lunch break perhaps?

I'll stick with siyuan next time. Only tried merrilyn, haven't tried bodi. Which is better?[/QUOTE]Speaking of Heting, I had my most ATFs there with take out after ward. Came to hotel after for more fun and more GFE.

PC out

[QUOTE=Duronston;1301677]Hello. I am new in shanghai. Just want to have fun. However, I am not interested in asian girls. So where to find those Russian girls?[/QUOTE]You are in for a dry spell my friend. As SR noted Bar Rouge might give you some joy. Very occasionally and quite late Manhattan will have an odd one. Luna at Xin Tian Di might also offer up some from time to time if you have the patience.

OTOH. Beijing has Hollywood (Absenta) , Chocolate, Maggies etc. All have Russians every night. Chocolate by the dozens. But service offered won't knock youir socks off. Guaranteed CBJ. Mostly RMB1, 500 ST. 3K for LT. All of a sudden those Asian girls starting to look attractive again huh?

I have spotted another strip of 5 BBS at Yinshan Road (junction with Jinkou Road) in Puding. Quality varies a lot from shop to shop. Found a decent young hottie and asked for the price. They asked for 300 and refused to lower it to 200. But I didn't agree and left. The girls in the other shops hadn't been my taste and I went on.

Does anyone have some experience with these shops? Is 300 the market rate here or just the laowei price? Anyways I might come back few days later and give it another try.

[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy; 1301786]You are in for a dry spell my friend. As SR noted Bar Rouge might give you some joy. Very occasionally and quite late Manhattan will have an odd one. Luna at Xin Tian Di might also offer up some from time to time if you have the patience.

OTOH. Beijing has Hollywood (Absenta) , Chocolate, Maggies etc. All have Russians every night. Chocolate by the dozens. But service offered won't knock youir socks off. Guaranteed CBJ. Mostly RMB1, 500 ST. 3K for LT. All of a sudden those Asian girls starting to look attractive again huh?[/QUOTE]I have tried Russians in Chocolate several times. Have you ever been in Bar Rouge? How about the quality and rate compared with Chocolate?

Thanks, Billy!

[QUOTE=Jman90024;1301489]Sounds like fun! Contact me via PM.[/QUOTE]I know that everyone recommends QQ only with sufficient Mandarin skills. Referring to some older post just 1-2% of the girls can communicate in English. Can anyone provide numbers of these girls. Would be really helpful.

[QUOTE=Fudan; 1301740].

The most important information that you might want to read again is: 10BBS+, each with a selection from 3 to 6+ girls, from "ok girl" to "oh my god are you korean singer? Girl".

300 for FS was easy to get, pretty sure you can get it for lower price. With all BBS, the crew must be like 50+ girls just waiting so I think they won't refuse even 200.

And the best part is that those 10 BBS + are in the same street, same side of the road and from the first one to last one is maybe a 5 min walk. And everything is from 200 to 500m away from metro line 3. (you can find some BBS a little further away but the best selection seems to be packed here)

Now the story and details of how it went (for the curious)

The light is really low and you can't see "in details" from the street. Well you can see that BBS have from 3 to 6 girls and they come in all sizes and shapes.

But as I said before, it is so weird that some BBS just have a crew of 5-6 girls really good looking and the one next door has 2-3 girls not so good looking. I mean: who would go for the 3 "ok girls" when you can chose among 6 hotties? Maybe it's just the discount places for the locals.

Anyway I went for one of the last BBS on Zhengli road (last from Fudan which means one of the first if you come by metro line 3 ). Why this one? Well I have to admit that the hotties were in some previous BBS but mine was the last on the street and the "manager girl" was outside, looking pretty hot herself (I would have do her!) and pushed me a little with a nice "hey come, *Chinese I can't understand*". In other BBS, all the hotties are packed in a room, it looks really dark and I couldn't step inside that store with 6 girls looking at me for my first time. Thats why I chose the one with the door already opened and the manager girl outside.

So I am like "ok what the hell, I am just going to ask the price and see if she can speak some english", so I come to her and say "hey!", she is like "ok come to the store", I tell her "wait wait wait, price?", she doesn't understand, I say "eee? Rrrrr? San bei?", she says "ok ok san bei" and she shows me her mouth. I say "san bei" and I show the whole body, she really easily says "ok ok san bei". I am a newbie at this but I'm sure that someone with experience could get it for 200.

I enter the room, only 2 girls (others sounded busy.) but both look pretty decent. One was more like the +50kg Kind and the other the. 50kg kind. I chose the tight one. The manager girl says nicely "pay now" so I give her 300. The girl takes me to the back, she tries to open a door but its locked and sounds busy. So she takes me to a bed which was almost in the "waiting room", just had a sliding wooden panel. I am like "ah whatever, this is just for the fun". I sat on the bed, it was really f*king hard, pretty sure it was wood. She takes a condom and some kind of napkins from her purse, she tells me to pull down my pants, which I did. I was harder than the freaking oriental tower. She cleans my financial district with the napkins and starts sucking. Not my best blowjob, not my worst, just a good one. The thing is that I could hear the guy next door banging an other girl. Well actually I could hear the girl next door screaming, which really turned me on and I was getting sucked at the same time.

After 3 minutes she stops, put on the condom, goes missionary and open her legs. I went in and honestly, I went for like 10 strokes and. I couldn't hold it, it felt like my first time haha. I was like "what the f* what happened to me?". I am honestly in the "1 hour with a girlfriend is the average" familly but sometimes shit happen! Long time I didn't have an accident though.

I guess she was happy it didn't last because she really didn't seem into the GFE and was mechanical. Now that I think about it, I should have chosen the other one which, as usual, looked way more happy and funny. But stupid little bro chose the hot / tight on.

Anyway I was kind of ashamed because that kind of thing didn't happen to me since I was like 18 (I am 24 now) but what the hell, that was my first BBS! Was a bit too much.

When we went out, the other girl was still waiting and smiling. The girl I banged said "bye" and I heard the other one, still really happy almost screaming "bye byyyyyyyyye" to me, like a "please next time come and do me".

Conclusion: A bad experience? Yes and no and if yes, I can only be mad at my stupid little bro who acted like a teenager! The BJ was pretty good, she could have easily made me go into her mouth. My first time in a BBS so it was funny anyway.

Again I read many reports saying "I chose the hottest one but I should have taken the other girl who looked way more funny", can't agree more! Next time I will not chose the girl, I will let a girl chose me.

Also don't judge the neighborhood from my girl + my "bedroom", there are a lot more BBS and girls in that street, pretty sure you can get some good deals.

And Finally, if you try to scout this area and these girls, don't try to remember the location of the girls, I think they move from one BBS to an other, even during the day.[/QUOTE]Great report!

Congratulations: you are no longer a BBS virgin.

My suggestion: go back to the same BBS. Develop a "preferred customer" status with the mamasan. She will appreciate your custom, your cash flow, and, in time, you will probably get to bang her.

One of the "xiao jie" may wish to learn English, and help you to improve your putonghua. As well as suck you dry.

Explore and report.

P13.

Has anyone tried [url]http://www.aishedes.com/[/url] And tried to get girls there?

Thanks

Hit a BBS after a dinner meeting last night since not enough time for the usual sauna. Only two girls in the place but both super cute, it was just that one had the largest natural rack I have ever seen on a non-fatty Chinese girl. She was like something out of a Japanese porno. Other than her breasts she was very nicely and normally proportioned: slim waist, nice legs, flat stomach, cute booty, and a sweet face but her breasts were these huge firm melons. I have no idea what size they would be DDD? Wow. They were the size of a man's head. Wonderfully firm and with great nipples. Amazing. Good attitude also. Very nice. Will definitely remember her for another short time visit.

Nice!

Are you willing to share where one can find such a rare gem?

Levitian

Sending you a PM.

[QUOTE=Levitian; 1302253]Nice!

Are you willing to share where one can find such a rare gem?

Levitian[/QUOTE]

Something tells me you are going to get a lot of requests for info on where we can find this beauty. Well, here's mine! Maybe it makes more sense to just post it.

[QUOTE=Gaist Asia;1301944]I know that everyone recommends QQ only with sufficient Mandarin skills. Referring to some older post just 1-2% of the girls can communicate in English. Can anyone provide numbers of these girls. Would be really helpful.[/QUOTE]Hi sorry dumb question. I have QQ account but cannot find exactly where to go chat up girls. I can do mandarin or english.

Thanks

Hey Guys, this is my 1st post. I've been a long time just reading and gathering information about HE massages (I'm not a sauna kind of guy) and now I've decided to make a big list of all the massages I've tried (at least more than once each!). The order is not relevant:

1) Xikang Lu, Wuding Lu.

Near Macau Portuguese restaurant. I would say that's the standard HE massage, price around 268 (maybe more?) and they have a English menu on the reception, but I think the service is almost the same. The job done here is maybe one of the best, and they do prostrate massage if that's your kind of thing. Soft touching is ok, clothes on, with one of the girls I've managed to take the bra off. They are not allowed to take tips. Has shower. I don't remember the girls numbers, but they are usually good looking, nothing stunning. Also the legit massage part is quite good.

2) Wanghangdu Lu, Wuning Lu.

Go north by the large Wanghangdu Lu and after you pass Xinzha Lu you will see a small alley on the left with a massage sign, go in the alley for 100m. This place is a little dark and not too clean, with spider webs on the corners, but has a private shower which is not too bad and it's 24-7 open. (I've tried on Chinese holidays!). I went there 3 times, girls are averagely good and not so old, but I don't remember the numbers. If I remember well price is 207, no tips required if you don't want to do any touching. Service is fair, I felt like the massage is copied from the above mentioned MP, but the legit massage could be better.

3) Shaanxi Lu, Changping Lu.

This place is more sauna looking than a MP, they actually have a bed in the room (there's also the hole for the face). You shower before and after, and they offer 188 and 208 services (again, not really sure) , but I don't really get what's the difference. Service is like the others, normal massage, touching your parts from the bottom, flip over and HJ, but tits are naked here and they also use them to massage you. A LOT of touching allowed! In this place thou, it will change a lot according to the girl, some will do a horrible fake moaning and some are not that good looking. I use to take number 9, following a guy's comment here, and it's really one of the best girls I've had in SH, she did the service happily, nice tit wank and slipping her body on yours. Unfortunately she left.

4) Nandan Lu, Wending Lu.

Huge place with guys with radios and lots of rooms, but it didn't make me uncomfortable. Price is 208 (tbc) and no shower, but don't stop here. A guy here suggested 98 for the body and 92 saying it was his best service. 92 is never there, thou, maybe she left and they don't want to say. 98 is really good looking, perfect ass small tits. I think that no tipping will still give you access to the ass, but man, give her 100 kuai and she will happily let you take all her clothes off and even masturbate her. I've tried by all means a BJ, but no way.

5) Maoming Lu, Weihai Lu.

Go down a few steps, then take the elevator to the 3rd floor. It's a legit massage parlor place, so you have to clearly (but not loudly) say to the receptionist you want want a oil massage (first time the girl was too stupid to understand me, she took me to the feet massage room so I left). There is usually a few old ladies coming out of the feet massage. The place here is really clean and good looking, price is 208. I took a guys suggestion and picked number 18. REALLY good looking, maybe a 9 or 10, small but perfect tits which she won't allow you to see for less than 200 kuai, but they have to wear pants, so no skirt to our enjoyment. HJ is included without tip. Also the massage part was quite good. Rooms and showers are big and clean.

6) Ruijin Lu, Fuxing Lu.

Atmosphere is also of a legit MP, no shower thou. Massage is 227, but HJ is paid extra 200 (they will ask 300, and I never managed to get it for 100). I would say this will be expensive for the service they have, but sometimes I like to go there when I want a legit massage (which is really pro) , and a HJ just to end well. Sometimes you can see a tit or touch a little more if you speak Chinese.

That's all, hope you guys can comment and contribute with other places or girls numbers on these places.

Mgp

Frittobugger, that's a great finding! Would you mind sharing with me?

[QUOTE=Fritobugger;1302240]Will definitely remember her for another short time visit.[/QUOTE]

"Huge firm melons," sounds like hard implants to me. I have a great time with Chinese girl's small but real and soft tits. Any more than a handful is a waste.

[QUOTE=Fritobugger;1302240]one had the largest natural rack I have ever seen on a non-fatty Chinese girl. She was like something out of a Japanese porno. Other than her breasts she was very nicely and normally proportioned: slim waist, nice legs, flat stomach, cute booty, and a sweet face but her breasts were these huge firm melons. I have no idea what size they would be DDD? Wow. They were the size of a man's head. Wonderfully firm and with great nipples.[/QUOTE]

This is not a report but just a gentle nudge to Tip when the service warrants it. I have sent friends and a few of the guys on this Shanghai forum to a massage gal I have known a long time. She gets 70 from the house for an hour of service. She has never failed me and I do take a long time to finish usually and iI always leave there very relaxed and happy. She told me my "friend" did not tip her. Next time I make a recommendation I will repeat what I read on this very thread where I heard of the shop. The guy reported he gave a 100 kuai tip. That is about what I have tipped beginning five years ago in Shanghai. $16 bucks for a little woman's touch?

[QUOTE=Beijing4987;1302695]This is not a report but just a gentle nudge to Tip when the service warrants it. I have sent friends and a few of the guys on this Shanghai forum to a massage gal I have known a long time. She gets 70 from the house for an hour of service. She has never failed me and I do take a long time to finish usually and iI always leave there very relaxed and happy. She told me my "friend" did not tip her. Next time I make a recommendation I will repeat what I read on this very thread where I heard of the shop. The guy reported he gave a 100 kuai tip. That is about what I have tipped beginning five years ago in Shanghai. $16 bucks for a little woman's touch?[/QUOTE]Frankly, I will tip whne I feel it's appropiate for the service rendered. It may be 100, might be 50, might be 250, just depends on the service. I am sure your "gal" you have been seeing for some time now treats you well, hence the good tip, but perhaps your friends who went to see her did NOT get the same great service, so it's hardly yoru place to tell someone what to tip IMHO.

I have handles 1000's of tits in my time and I guarantee that these are not implants. I know man-made when I see / touch it. They were amazing.

[QUOTE=Five Aces;1302684]"Huge firm melons," sounds like hard implants to me. I have a great time with Chinese girl's small but real and soft tits. Any more than a handful is a waste.[/QUOTE]

I hadn't RTFF. In fact I didn't know the FF existed.

So my first visit to an MP was a shot in the dark. I didn't want to carry any bank or credit cards because I was worried about being robbed and I had no idea about how much I would have to pay. I looked in the Chinese / English dictionary, found the symbol for 'massage' and walked out of the door with what I figured was a reasonable amount of cash. My logic went: if it costs me about 100 pounds for an hour at home then it should be about one third, or less than that, here. So 350 RMB should cover it. Just to be safe I took 600 with me.

After wandering around for an hour or so I saw a couple of places on Weifang Xi Lu near its junction with Pudong Nan Lu almost next door to the Post Office. I have to say it was pretty obvious that they were in business; the girls were wearing short black skirts with black tights and were heavily made up. I went into the one nearer the Post Office and after a glance at the price list picked a massage at 350. OK pricewise that's about what I'the figured. Maybe at the top end but the girl was pretty, maybe a 7, and the place was presentable enough. She whisked me off upstairs and into smallish room with shower, wooden bath and a massage bed with a mirror next to it.

I didn't bother with the shower because I had showered just before going out (afterwards I regretted that because I felt a bit guilty when she later poked her finger in my ass-crack) so I stripped off and put on the shorts and she disappeared (to get her box of tricks as it turned out). So I'm alone, in a strange room, in a strange place, in a strange country, and thinking WTF.

She comes back and the action begins. It's all familiar now. But then, I have to say, the novelty and the frisson of danger combined with some good service made it a thrilling experience. Expensive (read on) but thrilling.

She started with a regular massage and seemed to know what she was doing. Then she did the cat lick using an artificial device in her mouth and somehow, maybe by humming, got it to resonate while licking around my neck and ears. So I'm loving it all and then she starts to work around the thighs and abdomen with gentle hand massage. I'm getting aroused and ready for the deed when she stops and starts babbling on in Chinese. It soon becomes clear she wants money. WTF! I had assumed that we had agreed the deal downstairs. She wants 500! Yes 500extra! So I gesture NO NO, I'll pay the 350 and that's it.

Anyway, as you all know by this stage my brain is in my dick. So I finish up offering what I've got in my pockets, which is 250. She doesn't seem too happy but when I start to get up off the bed and reach for my clothes she relents and takes the money. OK, now she gets to work on Frank and the boys and it's pretty good. She gets her tits out and after a bit of cajoling rolls her tights and her inner and outer pants down (that's right she had two pairs on) and I get to fondle, but not penetrate the pussy. So it's all good and I gesture to her that she should give me a BJ. She stops, nods, and asks for 1000 RMB. I find this genuinely funny and start laughing but she seems deadly serious.

Well the session continues with prostate massage (a first for me) and skilful HE to completion. I wouldn't say I felt cheated but I was disappointed. It seemed too expensive to me.

You'the think I'the have learned a lesson wouldn't you? But of course not!

A week or so later I take a cruise up and down Pudian Lu (between Pudong Nan Lu and Dongfang Lu) and it's awash with MPs –there are also one or two BBSs but I didn't know about them at this stage. So after a while a girl beckons me into an MP. If you walk up Pudian Lu on the right-hand-side from Pudong Nan Lu it's about 50 yards along behind a bus shelter.

The place is pretty routine and I ask for a massage from the menu. Again it's about 350. But this time I fall prey to the upsell. The first girl –well woman would be a lot more accurate – is OK. Mid-30s little overweight quite pretty maybe 7. That's OK for me. I'm a fat, old white guy and I know that experience beats looks almost every time. She gets me going and asks for another 200 yeah. Ok. But then she suggests another girl and the one who's proffered as a second is truly sensational. At least that's what I think. She has a very pretty face (9). Big but firm breasts (9). And a perfect I. E. A full western style ass (10) which seems to be something that Asian women always lack unless they're overweight.

So now I'm naively anticipating a full-on threesome (you remember that I still haven't RTFF) and for another 200 (so that's 400 extra) it seems a steal. Well of course it wasn't. A steal or a threesome. But I did get the beautiful girl fully naked and did some DATY on and I got a CBJ from both.

After maybe 10 minutes of action with the two of them the door opens – I forgot to mention that the room is out the back and you have to go past a restaurant kitchen to get there – and in walks another girl. She wants a piece of the action and she starts at 200. I say no. She says 150. I say no. She gets her tits out and juggles them in my face. I say no. She lifts her skirt pulls off her knickers and displays her pussy. I say no. By this stage the other two girls are roaring with laughter and I am seeing the funny side of it too. Girl three now offers it for 100 and then 50. I still say no because by this time I have realised that these girls won't even touch each other. She is not happy and starts swearing (I presume) at me in Chinese then flounces out.

Now while in some respects this was an amusing incident it didn't add to the eroticism of the situation and I never really enjoyed the rest of the session. I had one eye constantly on the door wondering who was going to walk in next. I felt cheated.

So now I realise. I need some help. I find the Forum and start to RTFF. Perfect.

I start looking for BBSs. It takes a little while to spot them at first but after many miles of pounding the side streets of Pudong I realise that there are scores of them. I will describe the location of a few but to be honest once you know what to look for they are everywhere. Typically, and I think some earlier posts have said this, they are in a side street just off a busy local shopping street. Sometimes they are actually among the shops on a 'normal' street, in which case they are often set back a little and hence easy to miss. Just stroll down the road and look into every frontage. If a girl makes eye contact or beckons or nods then go in. They won't bite.

It's true that some of them have the pink lights and the swirling barber's pole but none of the ones I have used have these features. They are just small. Fronted shops with one or more women in them. I have never seen any evidence of barber's or hairdresser's equipment in any BBS but bizarrely I did see one with photos of women's hairstyles in the window. Often they look like the foot massage places but you can tell the difference because the foot massage places always seem to have a lot of men, and sometimes women, lounging about smoking like lords' bastards. I have to admit I have tried out a couple of foot massage places to see if I could get any extras but so far no luck.

So I found some BBSs and then I had to pluck up the courage to go in to one. Well it wasn't really the courage to go in it was more the courage to walk in from a very local Chinese street where I stood out like a sore thumb. In the backstreets people do look at you if like me you're, big, white and don't seem to have a reason for being there. I have started to carry a bag like a sports bag or a carrier so it looks like I have some purpose in mind.

This one is in TangQiao Lu, in fact there are two BBSs in this street. The one I am describing is higher up the street furthest away from the river. If you're coming from Puxi then the ferry is a good choice. To get there from the ferry you walk up TangQiao Xin Lu (New Road) across PuMing Lu (I. E. Away from the Ferry Port) then bear off left into TangQiao Lu both the BBSs are on the left hand side. As U-turn left into TangQiao Lu there is a big MP just on the right which I have used but again I got hassled for tips. If you carry straight on up TangQiao New Road there are three MPs on the left; I have used the middle one of them. It was OK: massage about 250 then the nice young girl charged 200 to massage didi.

Anyway I was lucky the first time because it was poor weather and the street was no too crowded. Also there was only one girl in the shop so that made it less intimidating. She didn't beckon me in and in fact she looked a bit startled to see me but she knew what I wanted and took me through the back of the shop and through a door which opened up into the hallway of a tenement building. It was a dreary sort of place with a poorly lit stairwell which led up to a tiny apartment on the second floor. There was lot of security furniture on the door which took a while to unlock and open and then when she closed the door she locked and bolted it. So I am standing in a tiny grubby kitchen waiting for her to lock up and I start to worry; this time I've got my wallet with a copy of my passport (RTFF) and credit cards.

There is a small room with a thin partition to form two cubicles. This first time the other one was empty but on a subsequent visit the noise from next door was quite loud (I actually don't mind this) so if you're of a retiring disposition you might want to remember this; it's pretty typical of BBSs I think.

In the room I asked the price. She wanted 300 I offered 200 we settled on 250. I paid up front; wrong I know that now. Too much; I know that now. But compared to previous encounters it seemed a good deal and she was OK: face 7, tits 7 (thick long nipples which I like) attitude 7. Sucked on her nipples and got them even bigger and engorged. DATY she had an impressive sized clit (which I like a lot). However she wouldn't do BBBJ and after half-hearted cowboy for a minute I had to take her. First mish then doggy. As I mentioned I'm getting on a bit so I do prefer the girl to do most of the work. But I gave her a pounding that pushed her head against the wall and she seemed to enjoy it.

So that was good. Next time I went I was offered another girl but opted for first one as above. This time 200 and paid after the session was much the same. So now I'm thinking well this could be an ongoing thing but then I went again and my girl was there but she was asleep. So being a gentleman (fool) I went with the one who was up to bat. Short, stocky, plump, tarty acted like the mamasan but I don't think she was (do mamasans put out? I don't know). I wanted BBBJ and so with some Mandarin and some gestures explained what I wanted and I thought we'the agreed the deal. She wants 500 or something ridiculous to start with but in the end we settled on 250. Now the biggest mistake. I paid her up front! What a mug!

So she massages didi a little then gets out a condom. I start to protest but she plays dumb and won't do anything without protection. I am quite angry because a CBJ doesn't do much for me at all. So once I'm erect I decide to roger her hard as a punishment. So of course my dick immediately goes limp. I am really angry. I've got a woman I don't fancy, I've paid my money and I'm drooping. So I ask her blow me. And she refuses! I get out the translator and say 'I'm very disappointed'. She says something to the effect that it's my fault; I should get it up and service her and if I can't it's not her fault.

I stalk out in a huff and go downstairs to the shop where the sleeping beauty has now awakened. She is shocked to see me. I ask her how much and she tells me 200. I really want her. But now the harridan from earlier has re-appeared and is (it seems to me) telling the other girls what a pathetic specimen I am. So I cut my losses and walk out.

Still horny I walk up TangQiao Lu to Pudong Nan Lu, turn right and dive into another BBS. I tell the mamasan exactly what I want and get it from a very plain dumpy girl in glasses. While she stands over me to blow me I get her in the bowling ball grip (thumb up bum, one finger in pussy, one on clit) so that wasn't too bad for 200.

Maybe that's enough that's enough for one post. I have a very amusing anecdote about last week which I will post later. It concerns a BBS and two laowei. One of whom is me.

Last year when I went to this MP the price included HE. This time the girl did not request any tip before any extra activity as is usual. As a matter of fact there was little extra activity at my request as I had a date later and didn't want to spoil it. The second time I went (the next day and before the post quoted here was made) I did tip her as was appropriate.

She is a very sweet girl who has nothing to do with these postings. I will just call it a bad idea that snowballed and say let's let it end here.

[QUOTE=Beijing4987;1302695]This is not a report but just a gentle nudge to Tip when the service warrants it. I have sent friends and a few of the guys on this Shanghai forum to a massage gal I have known a long time. She gets 70 from the house for an hour of service. She has never failed me and I do take a long time to finish usually and iI always leave there very relaxed and happy. She told me my "friend" did not tip her. Next time I make a recommendation I will repeat what I read on this very thread where I heard of the shop. The guy reported he gave a 100 kuai tip. That is about what I have tipped beginning five years ago in Shanghai. $16 bucks for a little woman's touch?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Beijing4987;1302695]This is not a report but just a gentle nudge to Tip when the service warrants it. I have sent friends and a few of the guys on this Shanghai forum to a massage gal I have known a long time. She gets 70 from the house for an hour of service. She has never failed me and I do take a long time to finish usually and iI always leave there very relaxed and happy. She told me my "friend" did not tip her. Next time I make a recommendation I will repeat what I read on this very thread where I heard of the shop. The guy reported he gave a 100 kuai tip. That is about what I have tipped beginning five years ago in Shanghai. $16 bucks for a little woman's touch?[/QUOTE]Perhaps your friend / referral didn't receive the same level of service you do. Perhaps your friend thought the price was all in. Perhaps your friend paid the house 'laowai price' and felt that was sufficient. Let's face it, we get ripped off enough simply because we're laowai that some of us get de-sensitized to issues like 'tipping'.

Found another single BBS at Yushan Road between Gushan and Luoshan Road. Passed the shop on my way back home and saw 4 cute girls. All mid 20's. Couldn't resist and entered the shop. Agreeing to Fudan's advice few posts earler I let the girls choose. Which turned out to be the start of my best GFE in a BBS so far. Although I don't speak any Mandarin we had a lot of fun and laught the entire time.

After making the choise the girl let me to romm in the back with just 2m x 2m and a bed covered with a bamboo mat. She asked me to wait there and left the room. I expected that she get the necessary accessories. But when she returned she got a key for one of the apartments behind the shop.

We had to walk about 5 minutes. It was already dark and she tried to figure out my size on the way. In return I tried to see what will be left without push-up. Arrived in the apartment she guided me to room with a proper bed. She had been very willing to change positions and pretended very well to enjoy it. Due to the heat she even accepted some minor breaks to take breath. During these breaks we tried hard communicate. Without much success but always felt like a GFE. The bonus had been that she offered me a quick shower after the job. Happend to me the first time and it was nice and refreshing.

Overall another nice experience.

[QUOTE=Zackster; 1302449]Hi sorry dumb question. I have QQ account but cannot find exactly where to go chat up girls. I can do mandarin or english.

Thanks[/QUOTE]Try [url]http://www.casualencounterschina.com/[/url] They have a lot of QQ numbers. I have tried it for SZ and it is a great tool. If you can read Chinese you can also try [url]http://www.aishedes.com/.[/url] I haven't tried aishedes before.

Hello!

Following the wise advice of this forum, I took the chance to make a visit to the Heting Sauna. My first experience in a sauna in China.

To arrive there just take Line 10 and stop in Siping road. When you exit go south in Siping Road, on the right side. Heting is as described, in a circular building with no signs in western language. Has an small parking lot in front and there is a doorman that takes you to the elevator.

In the reception desk, I had to say nothing. They gave me the bracelet and took me to the lockers. The man taking me spoke a little bit of english, just to say "for the massage you have to wait 30 minutes". Ok, no problem. The room where you change has lockers and also some sofas where you can watch tv and ask for some drinks and food just pressing on button in the wall. Once they drive you there, they show you your locker and then you undress and you wear a bathrobe. Then exit the opposite door where you entered and there will be a man indicating to you the way to the showers.

There you have to give the bathrobe, they look to your bracelet to see the number and remember and then you can go to the showers, to the sauna and there is an small swimming pool / jacuzzi where I didn't see nobody entering in. One important detail is that in your locker you have a plastic bag with zipper where you can put your glasses or your mobile, to go to the showers. There, after giving the bathrobe, there is an small closet with many spaces with key where you can leave your stuff. Just put it in there, close and get the key.

Once you are ready, go where you left your bathrobe and in front there is a guy that will give you one small towel to dry your face (or whatever you want) and he will dry your back (yes, including your butt.). But I was warned in the forum, so nothing t to scary. The best thing is to loose all shame. Then you get your bathrobe and go back to the locker room where you can relax and see the tv and ask for something to drink. At that time I didn't know what to do to go for the massage so I waited to see what the other guests would do. Fortunately, the man speaking english came after 5 minutes to the room to say "massage is ready". Ok, let's go.

He guides you through the maze until you reach one wall that opens and then you have some corridor. At the end you arrive to an small hall where 6 girls where waiting. It's a shocking moment because it's little bit embarrassing. The girls where 5 of 10 but ok. It was 23:00 so not much where to choose. Another guests (Chinese) came after me while I was deciding and he put some face of "That's all left?". So I didn't want to stay there and I choose a chubby one that had a funny face. She complained to the manager something, that was not nice, but as I didn't understood it I didn't mind at all. Girl number I think it's 261.

She took me by the arm, and drove me to the room. The place is huge. On the way she started to ask me my name, my country, etc. So with my poor mandarin and a lot of charming she started to laugh and be on a better mood. In the room, the procedure is simple, you undress, she undresses, she takes out of her bag all she needs (creams, condoms, etc.) and then she indicates that first BJ. Even she was making a lot of theater, the BJ was good. Then she ask me to put a condom and rides her. The rest you know how it goes.

After that, she rings to ask for a CocaCola for me (without asking) and then she offers me to lick my whole body. The experience is a good one to remember. The procedure is as described by other fellows here. She takes water or ice and then she makes some strange sucking all over the body. It feels weird but good. She repeats all over the body, both sides. Also she wiped the ass carefully and made a black kiss during some minutes that feels very good.

To end the thing, another HJ + BJ and some talking on the bed (half english half mandarin) and then the telephone rings and they ask you if the service was ok. You say yes and then it's over. Dress, the lady takes you to the sliding wall, bye bye, and then you go to the showers. Same procedure as before. When finish go back to the locker room, change (somebody has to come to unlock your locker as it is needed your key and another) , and then exit. I find the man speaking english and he ask me if the service was good,"yes very much". And then you go to reception, pay the mentioned 698 rmb and go out by the elevator.

Some comments from my side:

- Sorry to make the story too long but I appreciate the long reports with details when I go first time to the places. In fact even reading some reports here I felt a little bit confused.

- The place is amazing to be a chicken house. Looks like a normal regular massage place with top quality decoration. There is a lot of stuff for driving you, cleaning the rooms and so on.

- The showers place is very clean and the towels are in a very good condition.

- The price is very good for that place and service.

So I will make a regular visit on every business trip to Shanghai and I will try to book in advance #208 as recommended here, now that I have the telephone.

[QUOTE=Pushkin13; 1301986]Great report!

Congratulations: you are no longer a BBS virgin.

My suggestion: go back to the same BBS. Develop a "preferred customer" status with the mamasan. She will appreciate your custom, your cash flow, and, in time, you will probably get to bang her.

One of the "xiao jie" may wish to learn English, and help you to improve your putonghua. As well as suck you dry.

Explore and report.

P13.[/QUOTE]Excellent report and an area I use frequently but please don't pay more than 200RMB and I am a laowai. The walking trick works nine times out of ten!

Hello!

Following the wise advice of this forum, I took the chance to make a visit to the Heting Sauna. My first experience in a sauna in China.

To arrive there just take Line 10 and stop in Siping road. When you exit go south in Siping Road, on the right side. Heting is as described, in a circular building with no signs in western language. Has an small parking lot in front and there is a doorman that takes you to the elevator.

In the reception desk, I had to say nothing. They gave me the bracelet and took me to the lockers. The man taking me spoke a little bit of english, just to say "for the massage you have to wait 30 minutes". Ok, no problem. The room where you change has lockers and also some sofas where you can watch tv and ask for some drinks and food just pressing on button in the wall. Once they drive you there, they show you your locker and then you undress and you wear a bathrobe. Then exit the opposite door where you entered and there will be a man indicating to you the way to the showers.

There you have to give the bathrobe, they look to your bracelet to see the number and remember and then you can go to the showers, to the sauna and there is an small swimming pool / jacuzzi where I didn't see nobody entering in. One important detail is that in your locker you have a plastic bag with zipper where you can put your glasses or your mobile, to go to the showers. There, after giving the bathrobe, there is an small closet with many spaces with key where you can leave your stuff. Just put it in there, close and get the key.

Once you are ready, go where you left your bathrobe and in front there is a guy that will give you one small towel to dry your face (or whatever you want) and he will dry your back (yes, including your butt.). But I was warned in the forum, so nothing t to scary. The best thing is to loose all shame. Then you get your bathrobe and go back to the locker room where you can relax and see the tv and ask for something to drink. At that time I didn't know what to do to go for the massage so I waited to see what the other guests would do. Fortunately, the man speaking english came after 5 minutes to the room to say "massage is ready". Ok, let's go.

He guides you through the maze until you reach one wall that opens and then you have some corridor. At the end you arrive to an small hall where 6 girls where waiting. It's a shocking moment because it's little bit embarrassing. The girls where 5 of 10 but ok. It was 23:00 so not much where to choose. Another guests (Chinese) came after me while I was deciding and he put some face of "That's all left?". So I didn't want to stay there and I choose a chubby one that had a funny face. She complained to the manager something, that was not nice, but as I didn't understood it I didn't mind at all. Girl number I think it's 261.

She took me by the arm, and drove me to the room. The place is huge. On the way she started to ask me my name, my country, etc. So with my poor mandarin and a lot of charming she started to laugh and be on a better mood. In the room, the procedure is simple, you undress, she undresses, she takes out of her bag all she needs (creams, condoms, etc.) and then she indicates that first BJ. Even she was making a lot of theater, the BJ was good. Then she ask me to put a condom and rides her. The rest you know how it goes.

After that, she rings to ask for a CocaCola for me (without asking) and then she offers me to lick my whole body. The experience is a good one to remember. The procedure is as described by other fellows here. She takes water or ice and then she makes some strange sucking all over the body. It feels weird but good. She repeats all over the body, both sides. Also she wiped the ass carefully and made a black kiss during some minutes that feels very good.

To end the thing, another HJ + BJ and some talking on the bed (half english half mandarin) and then the telephone rings and they ask you if the service was ok. You say yes and then it's over. Dress, the lady takes you to the sliding wall, bye bye, and then you go to the showers. Same procedure as before. When finish go back to the locker room, change (somebody has to come to unlock your locker as it is needed your key and another) , and then exit. I find the man speaking english and he ask me if the service was good,"yes very much". And then you go to reception, pay the mentioned 698 rmb and go out by the elevator.

Some comments from my side:

- Sorry to make the story too long but I appreciate the long reports with details when I go first time to the places. In fact even reading some reports here I felt a little bit confused.

- The place is amazing to be a chicken house. Looks like a normal regular massage place with top quality decoration. There is a lot of stuff for driving you, cleaning the rooms and so on.

- The showers place is very clean and the towels are in a very good condition.

- The price is very good for that place and service.

So I will make a regular visit on every business trip to Shanghai and I will try to book in advance #208 as recommended here, now that I have the telephone.

Has anyone been to both? The experience seems to be about the same. Bodi is a little pricier.

Any opinions about which is better? The same girls probably work at both.

[QUOTE=Synd2005; 1302852]Hello!

Following the wise advice of this forum, I took the chance to make a visit to the Heting Sauna. My first experience in a sauna in China. So I will make a regular visit on every business trip to Shanghai and I will try to book in advance #208 as recommended here, now that I have the telephone.[/QUOTE]Good and detailed report without having written a Penthouse piece. Might sound a repeat of others, but, Hey, the procedure is always the same. At least the newbies don't have to dig much to learn about a sauna experience. They only have to RTFF a bit.

[QUOTE=FatKnacker; 1302775]I hadn't RTFF. In fact I didn't know the FF existed.

A week or so later I take a cruise up and down Pudian Lu (between Pudong Nan Lu and Dongfang Lu) and it's awash with MPs –there are also one or two BBSs but I didn't know about them at this stage. So after a while a girl beckons me into an MP. If you walk up Pudian Lu on the right-hand-side from Pudong Nan Lu it's about 50 yards along behind a bus shelter.

The place is pretty routine and I ask for a massage from the menu. Again it's about 350. But this time I fall prey to the upsell.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you didn't have a good experience at this MP. I think you're describing the MPs right by the Eton Hotel on Chang Yi Lu.

Which one did you go into? The one with the big "Massage" sign at the corner, or another one? I ask because I'll be staying at the Eton Hotel in a couple of months.

Anybody else have any experiences with these MPs?

Fair enough. No more scolding about tips. It really is an individual and situational thing. I asked him if it was him who did not tip by PM and did not wait long enough for an answer. My fault. He said she was a "champion" so I was surprised when she told me he did not tip. He went back a second time and was generous.

She has given the same service each time, even the very first time.

]Frankly, I will tip whne I feel it's appropiate for the service rendered.

It may be 100, might be 50, might be 250, just depends on the service. I am sure your "gal" you have been seeing for some time now treats you well, hence the good tip, but perhaps your friends who went to see her did NOT get the same great service, so it's hardly yoru place to tell someone what to tip IMHO.[/QUOTE]

The service the first and second time was very different. I would rather not discuss that in this public forum though.

This MP (Butterfly) does not do regular massage. It is always erotic and when I went before the happy ending was included in the regular fee. The first time I went, at my request she did not do happy ending anyway. I had a date later as I explained in my post about this. The massage is still good and erotic so worth it without HE. The post you quoted here is someone else.

Maybe your girlfriend is not telling you all the business between her and her clients and maybe you should not be prying.

[QUOTE=Beijing4987; 1303007]Fair enough. No more scolding about tips. It really is an individual and situational thing. I asked him if it was him who did not tip by PM and did not wait long enough for an answer. My fault. He said she was a "champion" so I was surprised when she told me he did not tip. He went back a second time and was generous.

She has given the same service each time, even the very first time.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Stegram; 1302968]Has anyone been to both? The experience seems to be about the same. Bodi is a little pricier.

Any opinions about which is better? The same girls probably work at both.[/QUOTE]Big difference. Heting has no soapy service where the girl washes you with her body.
Bodi typically has more girls to choose from.
So I would vote in favor of Bodi.

[QUOTE=Duronston; 1301913]I have tried Russians in Chocolate several times. Have you ever been in Bar Rouge? How about the quality and rate compared with Chocolate?

Thanks, Billy![/QUOTE]Yes been to Bar Rouge quite a few times. It aint easy as Chocolate you just got to keep plugging away til you find something suitable.

Also if in Chocolate I usually go Uzbek instead of Ruskie. Uzbeks you can usually negotiate BBBJ while Ruskies will stick to CBJ. But this is Shanghai forum so I would rather stay on topic.

Forget the Ruskies in SH. Go to Luna or Brown Sugar in Xin Tian Di and take an African if you not want Asian. They will give you a far better ride than Russians.

Beware saggy titts though. Make sure she has no baby and check firmness of her titts before closing deal. Max RMB1500 LT will get you over the line.

[QUOTE=Five Aces;1303042]The massage is still good and erotic[/QUOTE]For the benefit of you guys who have had to endure this melodrama here is a report on Butterfly massage (Directions in post quoted below. There is a street signal light at the alley. Look down the alley and you see a 24 hour massage sign.)

They have redecorated the place since last year. It is much nicer with showers in each room.

The service varies from excellent as with #18 to indifferent with no real massage skills with other girls.

They give a 15 minute back massage followed by erotic massage and happy ending. When I went a year ago this was included in the standard fee which is 208 now but was 268 then.

I think it is obvious from this thread that they could be more explicit and state when they want more money and for what.

In my case on the first trip I had a standard service even with no HE at my own request. Should I have tipped 100 for feeling her up a little? She didn't ask. The only extra service I should have tipped for is the advice I got on this forum about not tipping her and the pleasure of having it all splashed across the front page of ISG for 2 days. Big scandal.

[QUOTE=Mgp23; 1302666]Hey Guys, this is my 1st post. I've been a long time just reading and gathering information about HE massages (I'm not a sauna kind of guy) and now I've decided to make a big list of all the massages I've tried (at least more than once each!). The order is not relevant:

2) Wanghangdu Lu, Wuning Lu.

Go north by the large Wanghangdu Lu and after you pass Xinzha Lu you will see a small alley on the left with a massage sign, go in the alley for 100m. This place is a little dark and not too clean, with spider webs on the corners, but has a private shower which is not too bad and it's 24-7 open. (I've tried on Chinese holidays!). I went there 3 times, girls are averagely good and not so old, but I don't remember the numbers. If I remember well price is 207, no tips required if you don't want to do any touching. Service is fair, I felt like the massage is copied from the above mentioned MP, but the legit massage could be better.[/QUOTE]

I just got back from Shanghai. I am a MP / HE guy so I did my share of work. The melodrama with me and my on again off again ex=24 year old gold digging hottie just played into it more. I will do a detailed report on Shannxi lu but I wanted to make a quick comment before I drift off to sleep on Changping lu on the corner of Changping lu and Shanxi lu.

I walked in and asked the difference between the 208 and 288 massage My mandarin isn't great but I do have some. She told me the 208 was a hand and 288 was (she pointed to her mouth). I said "coh.Jow" (blow job but don't ask me how to spell it, just say it) she said yes.

I took a quick shower, did the blue shorts and laid face down on the bed for my 1 hour massage. She looked at me like I was nuts and motioined me to roll over. Rather than argue, I flipped, She rubbed my stomach and proceeded to push the VIP card on me. (first visit, did not even knowwhat I was getting). She is clearing her throat constantly. She either has a cold or a case of clap. This is not adding to the mood. She is pretty (8?) but a little tall for my tastes. Anyway, when it became apparant, I was not buying the VIP card, she started the hand massage of little broimmediately (8 minutes into my massage).

She points to her mouth asking if I want a BJ all the while clearing her throat. I pass on the BJ, at this point I don't know if it is BBBJ or CBJ. Either way, not interested. She finished me off, I shower down and hand her 220 for the 208 massage. No touching of any kind for any price was allowed. The whole experience was less than 30 minutes. (to the earlier tipping drama, there is a big sign that says NO TIPPING under the pricess- I was not try to be cheap, but I also hated the service- I know I could have done better for myself)

She tells me that I owe here 288. I say no that is for blowjob. She is getting ticked off and repeating it. At this point, I am not going to make a scene over $12. I throw her another 100and start to walk out. She makes me wait for my change.

BTW she put a condom in package on the counter when we came out of the room. I am guessing a CBJ was going to be the outcome.

Overall, a really bad expereince. One of my worse in SH. It was kindof a BBS HJ feeling for MP prices. YYMV but I would not go here again. Go to Shannxi lu massage across the street. I found it a much better experience. Will write about that tomorrow.

Good night all. Good to be back in the USA after a long month.

Sam

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[QUOTE=Synd2005; 1302847]Hello!

Following the wise advice of this forum, I took the chance to make a visit to the Heting Sauna. My first experience in a sauna in China.

To arrive there just take Line 10 and stop in Siping road. When you exit go south in Siping Road, on the right side. Heting is as described, in a circular building...[/QUOTE]Did you tip?

Hi Sam,

Recently I've been several times in that massage place and I had good experiences always. Just to clarify, in the corner of Changping with Shanxi there is two places: one in Shanxi (south west side) and one in Changping (north west side, going up to the 2nd floor after entering through a small door)

The one you are talking about is the one in Changping probably.

Prices.

208 is the regular HJ massage.

288 is the regular CBJ massage.

VIP Card.

Its free and entitles you to a 30rmb discount (at least for the 288 package) if you show it when paying.

Girls.

They are all very young (from 19 to 28 or so)

All the girls I met were very nice people (I speak mandarin enough to have an interesting conversation)

All of them are very good looking in my opinion.

Unfortunately their skills are not standardized and one is good with the CBJ, another with the massage technique and another has an awesome body.

My personal recommendation is the number 8. Its a 19yo girl with an amazing pair of tits. Really. AMAZING tits. She is not good with the CBJ dough. (go for the HJ better).

Regards.

Landa.

[QUOTE=SamCan; 1303090]I just got back from Shanghai. I am a MP / HE guy so I did my share of work. The melodrama with me and my on again off again ex=24 year old gold digging hottie just played into it more. I will do a detailed report on Shannxi lu but I wanted to make a quick comment before I drift off to sleep on Changping lu on the corner of Changping lu and Shanxi lu.

I walked in and asked the difference between the 208 and 288 massage My mandarin isn't great but I do have some. She told me the 208 was a hand and 288 was (she pointed to her mouth). I said "coh. Jow" (blow job but don't ask me how to spell it, just say it) she said yes.

I took a quick shower, did the blue shorts and laid face down on the bed for my 1 hour massage. She looked at me like I was nuts and motioined me to roll over. Rather than argue, I flipped, She rubbed my stomach and proceeded to push the VIP card on me. (first visit, did not even knowwhat I was getting). She is clearing her throat constantly. She either has a cold or a case of clap. This is not adding to the mood. She is pretty (8?) but a little tall for my tastes. Anyway, when it became apparant, I was not buying the VIP card, she started the hand massage of little broimmediately (8 minutes into my massage).

She points to her mouth asking if I want a BJ all the while clearing her throat. I pass on the BJ, at this point I don't know if it is BBBJ or CBJ. Either way, not interested. She finished me off, I shower down and hand her 220 for the 208 massage. No touching of any kind for any price was allowed. The whole experience was less than 30 minutes. (to the earlier tipping drama, there is a big sign that says NO TIPPING under the pricess- I was not try to be cheap, but I also hated the service- I know I could have done better for myself)

She tells me that I owe here 288. I say no that is for blowjob. She is getting ticked off and repeating it. At this point, I am not going to make a scene over $12. I throw her another 100and start to walk out. She makes me wait for my change.

BTW she put a condom in package on the counter when we came out of the room. I am guessing a CBJ was going to be the outcome.

Overall, a really bad expereince. One of my worse in SH. It was kindof a BBS HJ feeling for MP prices. YYMV but I would not go here again. Go to Shannxi lu massage across the street. I found it a much better experience. Will write about that tomorrow.

Good night all. Good to be back in the USA after a long month.

Sam

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I need to entertain one of my clients but due to personal reasons he is only available during the day. I know that the regular KTV will open late afteroon or early evening. Is there any KTV that opens already at lunch time? Any hint would be appreciated.

Read the following interesting CL ad:

Discreet fun only - 37 Shanghai.

Mature women looking for discreet fun.

No pics swap only meet face to face.

Please introduce yourself when you reply.

Your age must over 45.

Thanks

So, I bit and sent an email, here's the reply:

Thanks for your reply.

I am married. 158cm / 50kg. My rule is meet first in public place see we like each other or not. If ok then we can have fun but you need pay 400 rmb + taxi fee. If you are ok for this we talk more. No photo swap. If not like my way. Hope you have good luck

Angela.

Sounds like a working girl to me, or maybe an agency pushing tai tais. In any event, I declined, I don't have time for clandestine meetings with mystery ladies.

[QUOTE=Mike921; 1303460]Read the following interesting CL ad:I am married. 158cm / 50kg. My rule is meet first in public place see we like each other or not. If ok then we can have fun but you need pay 400 rmb + taxi fee. If you are ok for this we talk more. No photo swap. If not like my way. Hope you have good luck

Sounds like a working girl to me, or maybe an agency pushing tai tais. In any event, I declined, I don't have time for clandestine meetings with mystery ladies.[/QUOTE]Well. Then the second question is: what do you get for 400? Sounds to me there will be a non-stop upselling

[QUOTE=Xcalibir;1303217]Did you tip?[/QUOTE]Nop. You are going around naked or only with the bathrobe, so difficult to bring money.

[QUOTE=Mike921; 1303460]Read the following interesting CL ad:

Discreet fun only. 37 Shanghai.

Mature women looking for discreet fun.

No pics swap only meet face to face.

Please introduce yourself when you reply.

Your age must over 45.

Thanks

So, I bit and sent an email, here's the reply:

Thanks for your reply.

I am married. 158cm / 50kg. My rule is meet first in public place see we like each other or not. If ok then we can have fun but you need pay 400 rmb + taxi fee. If you are ok for this we talk more. No photo swap. If not like my way. Hope you have good luck

Angela.

Sounds like a working girl to me, or maybe an agency pushing tai tais. In any event, I declined, I don't have time for clandestine meetings with mystery ladies.[/QUOTE]Angela is good fun.

Nothing clandestine about the meeting. She wants to meet in a public place.

She is a sweet nymphomaniac who likes foreign "little brother". .

I speak from two delicious experiences with her, previously reported in this forum.

P13

[QUOTE=Pushkin13;1303508]Angela is good fun.Nothing clandestine about the meeting. She wants to meet in a public place.She is a sweet nymphomaniac who likes foreign "little brother". .I speak from two delicious experiences with her, previously reported in this forum.P13[/QUOTE]Soo. Dreams can come true sometime! I can believe that her mailbox will get flooded LOL

Mike,

If you can help out with some contact details if you do proceed, I lost them and I really kicked myself for doing so.

Could not find the post, it must have been removed.

PM me if you need

[QUOTE=ShLax; 1303520]Mike,

If you can help out with some contact details if you do proceed, I lost them and I really kicked myself for doing so.

Could not find the post, it must have been removed.

PM me if you need[/QUOTE]Definitely won't be proceeding, despite the reviews, as the CUSTOMER, I feel absolutely no need to waste my time being 'evaluated' or screened by a WL (nymphos typically don't charge for their time). Too many other easier choices here.
Cheers,
M

[QUOTE=Synd2005;1303501]Nop. You are going around naked or only with the bathrobe, so difficult to bring money.[/QUOTE]If you are really serious about tipping a girl.

Some people stuff money inside their cigarette boxes.

That's what I heard.

There was one time I was at 999 where the girl actually paid me to order an extra session with her so she can get the monthly red tag reward.

And she gave me the money in an empty cigarette box.

[QUOTE=Pushkin13; 1303508]Angela is good fun.

Nothing clandestine about the meeting. She wants to meet in a public place.

She is a sweet nymphomaniac who likes foreign "little brother". .

I speak from two delicious experiences with her, previously reported in this forum.

P13[/QUOTE]Where can I find Angela?

Hi guys,

For those guys who are interested in #208 at Heting. She's not working there anymore.

This is a new taxi scam for me. Outside Manhattan at 2 a.m. I see one of those green and white cars they brought out for Expo. You can usually trust them so I grabbed it. The driver knew where I wanted to go and put on the meter. I wasn't drunk but I still relaxed. Always a mistake with late night taxies.

When we got near my street he started talking like he didn't know where to go. This is where they might just step on the gas to add another kilometer to the fare. I told him where to pull over though. He stopped but left the meter running. The fare was 22 rmb. I gave him 25 but he is gesturing like he has no change. I pointed to the meter which was now at 23. He said ok give hime 22, knowing that I only have a five for the 2 rmb. He wasn't threatening just acting stupid and obviously lying. I didn't know what to do so I gave him the 5 making it 25 for a 22 rmb fare. I forgot to get the receipt or I could call the taxi company and complain. He would get in trouble.

I try to always have 1rmb coins to make exact change with taxies at night and I never tip a taxi driver.

[QUOTE=Five Aces;1304163]This is a new taxi scam for me. I didn't know what to do so I gave him the 5 making it 25 for a 22 rmb fare. I forgot to get the receipt or I could call the taxi company and complain. He would get in trouble.I try to always have 1rmb coins to make exact change with taxies at night and I never tip a taxi driver.[/QUOTE]Wow. 3rmb a scam? Holy shit, that taxi driver is surely a financial artist. Should have taken down his name to see if in a couple of years he is going to be in the Forbes Top 100. Maybe he is soon going to be public transport tycoon. Are you earning 1rmb an hour to be so greedy? You have just been spending a few tens (or hundreds) of rmb on drinks and all of a sudden you care for 3rmb. Impressive.

[QUOTE=Bionicman;1304179]Wow. 3rmb a scam? Are you earning 1rmb an hour to be so greedy? You have just been spending a few tens (or hundreds) of rmb on drinks and all of a sudden you care for 3rmb. Impressive.[/QUOTE]I knew someone would say this. It's so obvious.

The point is that he is driving around routinely robbing people, Chinese and foreign. Also they can often be threatening. I once had to elbo my way out of a red taxi when the driver tried to charge me 70 rmb for a 25 rmb trip to Zapatas. His choice was open the door or I smash it.

While some taxi drivers are really great the bad ones ruin it for everyone.

OH! Thanks, that makes sense. That wasn't the first girl to do that and I always wondered why they did.

[QUOTE=Ringer5;1301542]She was checking that it had not broken or leaked. If she is not reassured by the quantity you supplied she might pour water inside to check for leaks![/QUOTE]

That's a shame. From what I'm reading she may have been more of an exception to the standard at Heting. So maybe she moved on to more "rewarding" employers. If I had the time and cash, I'd have put her up in an apartment, she was that good.

[QUOTE=Arizona123; 1304134]Hi guys,

For those guys who are interested in #208 at Heting. She's not working there anymore.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Five Aces; 1304163]This is a new taxi scam for me. Outside Manhattan at 2 a. M. I see one of those green and white cars they brought out for Expo. You can usually trust them so I grabbed it. The driver knew where I wanted to go and put on the meter. I wasn't drunk but I still relaxed. Always a mistake with late night taxies.

When we got near my street he started talking like he didn't know where to go. This is where they might just step on the gas to add another kilometer to the fare. I told him where to pull over though. He stopped but left the meter running. The fare was 22 rmb. I gave him 25 but he is gesturing like he has no change. I pointed to the meter which was now at 23. He said ok give hime 22, knowing that I only have a five for the 2 rmb. He wasn't threatening just acting stupid and obviously lying. I didn't know what to do so I gave him the 5 making it 25 for a 22 rmb fare. I forgot to get the receipt or I could call the taxi company and complain. He would get in trouble.

I try to always have 1rmb coins to make exact change with taxies at night and I never tip a taxi driver.[/QUOTE]Some time ago in Nanjing, I took a taxi from a restaurant with my daughter, who just arrived in China. Taxi fare was 7rmb, but I always gave 10, couldn't be bothered with coins in my pocket. At the apartment, my daughter realised she'd left her bag in the taxi with seven thousand euros cash in it! Back to the same restaurant, found the same taxi parked and empty, bag still inside! Driver had returned to his usual pitch, then gone for a 3rmb bowl of noodles. Luck it was a beat up old Jetta, I could recognise it! I still don't worry about odd coins! And have never been cheated or scammed by a taxi driver in NJ, or SH. Of course I religiously use only official taxis.

Fz

Yes a shame indeed. I had planned to go see her but I was a little too late. By the way, does anyone have another recommendation for Heting? Been RTTF but couldn't find any specific recommendations. Ended up going back to the good old reliable #827 at SiYuan. Damn those tits are to die for!

[QUOTE=Tryfor5;1304204]That's a shame. From what I'm reading she may have been more of an exception to the standard at Heting. So maybe she moved on to more "rewarding" employers. If I had the time and cash, I'd have put her up in an apartment, she was that good.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Fuzimiao; 1304207]And have never been cheated or scammed by a taxi driver in NJ, or SH. Of course I religiously use only official taxis.

Fz[/QUOTE]This was a green and white taxi which usually you can trust like the light blue "da joing taxi." Two times I have been cheated by drivers in them though. Both times on a weekend and late at night, once I was quite drunk. They are probably part timers.

I usually get rid of my coins by giving them to beggers.

C'Mon, get serious about Scams if you're going to complain.

For those who have lived in the Jing you'd know how badly they all rip you off, considering the city is laid out in a Grid, it always amazed me how many tried to go the long way.

You all have heard the rip off with regards to meters that run fast, dodgy meters that jump to 300 going from Hong Qiao to Jing An or taking the outer ring road at 8pm to Avoid the jam. When we first lived here, no locals would take the elevated road as they percieved the ramps to add extra distance to a fare, so you HAD to tell drivers to take the GaoJia.

Now I know taking one of the so called "Safe" taxis should be hassle free, but occasiionally they do run out of change, but normally its when they don't have change for a red bill that it becmomes a hassle. Your argument over 3 kuai probably ciased you more stress than it was worth, but now it really will as everyone is going to give you flak over your complaint, so suggest you just STFU and bite your tounge.

Are available and most taxis take them. Then you don't need to hassle with change. If they don't take it pay low. Just don't get angry. Loud is OK. And some of them won't take you to a sauna. I have cards for the saunas I go to with the address on them and some self righteous Chinese guys don't want us fucking their girls.

[QUOTE=Five Aces; 1304163]This is a new taxi scam for me. Outside Manhattan at 2 a. M. I see one of those green and white cars they brought out for Expo. You can usually trust them so I grabbed it. The driver knew where I wanted to go and put on the meter. I wasn't drunk but I still relaxed. Always a mistake with late night taxies.

When we got near my street he started talking like he didn't know where to go. This is where they might just step on the gas to add another kilometer to the fare. I told him where to pull over though. He stopped but left the meter running. The fare was 22 rmb. I gave him 25 but he is gesturing like he has no change. I pointed to the meter which was now at 23. He said ok give hime 22, knowing that I only have a five for the 2 rmb. He wasn't threatening just acting stupid and obviously lying. I didn't know what to do so I gave him the 5 making it 25 for a 22 rmb fare. I forgot to get the receipt or I could call the taxi company and complain. He would get in trouble.

I try to always have 1rmb coins to make exact change with taxies at night and I never tip a taxi driver.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Arizona123;1304227]Yes a shame indeed. I had planned to go see her but I was a little too late. By the way, does anyone have another recommendation for Heting? Been RTTF but couldn't find any specific recommendations. Ended up going back to the good old reliable #827 at SiYuan. Damn those tits are to die for![/QUOTE]How much is Siyuan?

Thanks!

When I was in Shanghai, I looked up the add in CL for th 37 yo MILF who wanted to meet before playtime. She said the same things. We meet and if we like each other 400RMB + taxi fare. I was not sure if this was a set up or scam so we met at my hotel. Angela is not a for real. She is married to an older guy who, according to her,"sleeps all day because he's old." While he's sleeping, his nympho wife goes out and has fun.

Angela has a very nice tight Asian body. However, I did not find her face very attractive. She smokes quite a bit and was in a very negative mood when I met her. Complaining about this and that. She sounded like a nagging wife to me and nagging makes my dick go limp and I want to escape. After chatting for awhile over coffee, I told her I was not interested. I offered her taxi fare which she declined and we each went home.

Others have said that Angela is a hot little nympho in bed. We just did not hit it off. I can say that she is legit and in no way a scammer, just a horny lady. Good luck with her and report back.

AL

[QUOTE=ShLax; 1304248]C'Mon, get serious about Scams if you're going to complain.

But occasiionally they do run out of change, but normally its when they don't have change for a red bill that it becmomes a hassle. Your argument over 3 kuai probably ciased you more stress than it was worth, but now it really will as everyone is going to give you flak over your complaint, so suggest you just STFU and bite your tounge.[/QUOTE]The big bill he couldn't change was a five. This is about taxi drivers routinely robbing their passengers, particularly the weekend part timers. This is not about how you patronize the quaint Chinese who would slit your throat for 5 rmb and who sneer at you for giving them tips. The Japanese find tipping insulting. Chinese people who have to earn their money here don't think taxi driver thieving is so funny. I find it insulting.

So bite your tongue (correctly spelled).

[QUOTE=Waldeck2;1304271]And some of them won't take you to a sauna. I have cards for the saunas I go to with the address on them and some self righteous Chinese guys don't want us fucking their girls.[/QUOTE]Sure some must think that way but this is Shanghai. My experience is they really don't know the way, especially if they are weekend part timers. I have shown them my printed taxi note and they don't get it. Why would they. They can't find their a-holes with 2 hands. They live outside the city. What I do then is phone the sauna and give the driver the phone. The sauna attendent explains how to get there and all is well.

[QUOTE=Five Aces;1304388]Sure some must think that way but this is Shanghai. My experience is they really don't know the way, especially if they are weekend part timers. I have shown them my printed taxi note and they don't get it. Why would they. They can't find their a-holes with 2 hands. They live outside the city. What I do then is phone the sauna and give the driver the phone. The sauna attendent explains how to get there and all is well.[/QUOTE]Years ago when JiYuan 2 was still around, I went there for some midnight exercise came out around 2AM, there was a bunch of taxis waiting right outside. I picked the first one in the queue and hopped in, the driver proceeded to give me a lecture on STDs, fake orgasms, fake moaning and stuff.

She is quite a hottie and is a nympho. Been with her a few times to kill an afternoon. Husband knows what she does-he can't take care of her needs. Pushing 70. She is nice once you get to know her. I would spend more time with her, but she flat wears you out!

Give it another try, if she lets you.

[QUOTE=AsianLover; 1304287]When I was in Shanghai, I looked up the add in CL for th 37 yo MILF who wanted to meet before playtime. She said the same things. We meet and if we like each other 400RMB + taxi fare. I was not sure if this was a set up or scam so we met at my hotel. Angela is not a for real. She is married to an older guy who, according to her,"sleeps all day because he's old." While he's sleeping, his nympho wife goes out and has fun.

Angela has a very nice tight Asian body. However, I did not find her face very attractive. She smokes quite a bit and was in a very negative mood when I met her. Complaining about this and that. She sounded like a nagging wife to me and nagging makes my dick go limp and I want to escape. After chatting for awhile over coffee, I told her I was not interested. I offered her taxi fare which she declined and we each went home.

Others have said that Angela is a hot little nympho in bed. We just did not hit it off. I can say that she is legit and in no way a scammer, just a horny lady. Good luck with her and report back.

AL[/QUOTE]

Man you were right! I went there this week around 8 pm and there were a lpt of good looking girls and friendly. And the tits, oh. Those were perfect tits.

The only thing was that she wouldn't do BBBJ, only with condom, I eve tried to offer 300 but no. And no hot / cold stuff too.

[QUOTE=Arizona123; 1290792]Guys,

My bad, yes it it on Anyuan Lu, not Changping Lu like I had thought. I must have looked at the map wrong.

Anyway, ventured out to Anyuan Lu this afternoon (Friday around 5. 30pm). There were I think around 4 of these BBS in a row. Walked past all of them and the girls were smiling and waving for me to go in. Made a 2nd round and finally decided to walk up to the one that's 2nd from the left. Got in the door, there were 2 girls, one's a 7 and the other one's an 8. Of course it was the 7 that walked back with me to the room. Asked how much, quoted 200. Got undressed while she went out to get her stuff.

When she took off her top, oh man. Those were probably the best looking tits on a Chinese girl I've ever seen. Nice and firm 36C's. Big nipples just asking to be sucked on.[/QUOTE]

Paid a visit to the Dream Spa last night. It is located at the Double Tree Hilton Hotel, corner of Yang Gao Lu and Pujian Lu. When you look at the entrance of the hotel from Yang Gao lu, the spa is located on right hand side of the hotel. If you walk down the right hand side, you will see the spa. It is unnamed but has a large glass frontage and a large white lobby. The manager at the door spoke english and gave me the run down. 988 rmb for an 88 minute session (lots of 8's. Hmmm).

Was taken to a room, which had the usual decoration including a large round bed and an joining wet area. There is no fishbowl, rather the girls are brought into the room and you get to pick. If you don't like what you see, then send them away and another lot will come. Chose a cute Sichuan girl, with an impressive full back phoenix tattoo.

The wet area is notable in that it has a table that is split in the middle so that when you lie on it your legs are spread and the tackle hangs down free. Usual soapy bath with the following highlights:

1. The cat bath is done whilst in the wet area.

2. The cat bath included finger sucking

3. AR was provided in the wet area however in this instance prior to the AR she all but gave me an enema!

4. Flipped over for the body slides and a BBBJ.

From the wet area, dried off and down to business. A kneeling in front BBBJ was a nice touch. Then she capped me and down to business. I quite like it when they start with the fake moans and noises and when you are looking at their face, you notice the point at which they suddenly realise that they are not just going through the motions but might actually be on the way to cumming. It is almost a look of surprise, like they did not see that one coming. This was the case here and once she reached that point it went from fake moans and mechanical to yells and a bucking bronco. A nice wild ride to the finish.

Afterwards she gave me a walk on the back massage.

All in all an enjoyable way to spend 88 minutes, however I think that Bodi offers better value for money.

Went to the Dream Spa last night, next to the Double Tree Hilton Hotel on Yang Gao Lu, near Pujian Lu. It is the one with the space ship on top. The spa is on the right side of the hotel, unnamed but has a wide glass frontage with a brilliant white lobby area.

Manager spoke english and gave me the run down. 988rmb for 88 minutes (hmm I think I might be lucky tonight)

Nice room with round bed and adjoining wet area.

No fishbowl but girls brought into the room for you to choose. Picked a sichuan girl with an impressive full back phoenix tattoo.

Into wet area first, where the massage table had a split leg shape. For better access.

Usual soapy bath, but also included the cat bath and AR (which she gave after giving me a enema!). Also included a finger sucking session (mine not hers)

Flipped over for a BBBJ before drying off.

Into the room for more BBBJ. This time on the knees. A nice touch I thourght.

Then she popped a cap on and away we went. Lots of fake moans and other noises until she suddenly realised that she was actually starting to cum, which took a little by surprise. The is was screams and a wild bronco ride home.

She finished with a walk on the back massage.

All in all and enjoyable time was had by all but Bodi is better value for money

Go down the alley next to the hilton. There are 3 massage places. The one you want is a place called royal massage. They only do two massages. 358 rmb a one hour massage plus HJ or 458 for a one hour massage including BJ. There are only 3 girls working there so choices are limited. There is almost always one gem. The place was recently renovated so there are now showers in each room.

They open around 1pm and are open until 2am.

It is a little pricey compared to the other options, but if you are at the Shanghai Hilton, you can definately find it and it is 4 minutes from the front door!

Are the girls or the service worth the price? BJ is covered?

[QUOTE=SamCan; 1305551]Go down the alley next to the hilton. There are 3 massage places. The one you want is a place called royal massage. They only do two massages. 358 rmb a one hour massage plus HJ or 458 for a one hour massage including BJ. There are only 3 girls working there so choices are limited. There is almost always one gem. The place was recently renovated so there are now showers in each room.

They open around 1pm and are open until 2am.

It is a little pricey compared to the other options, but if you are at the Shanghai Hilton, you can definately find it and it is 4 minutes from the front door![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tanlines23; 1297886]So here are better directions and then to the good stuff. Exit the Lancun Road Metro station line 6 or line 4 and head North on Dongfang Road. Take a Left (head West) on Eshan Road and stay on the right hand side of the street (North side). Keep in mind that this was 6PM when I stopped by and I am an average looking 40 year old. The first little BBS you come to had some good looking girls but I didn't get any real interest from any of those working girls. Next you will come to the row of trees. Veer off to the right and stay on the sidewalk and you will find yourself in a strip of maybe 5 or 6 stores. The last on on the right is the honey hole.

This BBS will have 6. 8 STUNNING beauties! I stared up and down on the one that had the biggest tits. I asked if any of them did anal and they looked at me like I was from Mars. Then I said G&257; ngji&257; o (Gung-sheeow in plain English) and then they all giggled and shook their heads no. Oh well, I tried. So I chose the big titted * and she had a tight blue dress on and her titties were half out. So then I asked how much for sex? She held up 3 fingers and then I held up 2 fingers. She was demanding 300, but I was saying 200. I then looked at all the other working girls and asked 200 but they all said 300. Of course, I would have fucked any one of them so it didn't matter. But I wasn't going to overpay so I said Xièxiè (thank you) and headed out the door. Then they all came running after me and said no no 200 ok! And so I took the big titted working girl for a round of fun.

She led me to the back of the shop and it opened up to a pretty nice area with 4 big bedrooms. We took the first one on the right which was down 2 steps and had a nice big shower and a sink too. Then the Queen sized bed was down another step and it was a fairly large room. She started taking off my clothes and sucked my cock without the condom. Not bad, she was my little porn star! So I took off her clothes and started fucking her bent over one of the chairs with one leg up on the seat. There was a large mirror and so I could see her face and her moans as I fucked her. Then we moved over to the bed and she climbed on top and rode me. I then turned her around for the reverse cowgirl and stuck my finger in her ass. She didn't seem to mind! So I moved her to missionary and tried to stick my dick in her ass but she said no ass! Awe fuck. So, then I fucked her mish for a little bit and then flipped her over to doggy. What a nice ass! So as I was pounding her from behind, I stuck my thumb in her ass and she didn't care. So I did a quick switch and jammed my dick in her ass and she squealed like a pig! I said sorry and flipped her back over to mish and then came on her tits.

We then got dressed and she asked me for the payment. 200 and out the door. On my way out, one of the other girls wanted me to come back and fuck her! She was saying 200 ok! But I was spent after 20 minutes of hardcore fucking. Oh how I wish I was in my 20's again!

Then I kept walking the rest of the way down the street to Nanquan Road. There was another little strip behind a small row of trees that had 2 more BBS and it looked like they each had 6 girls. But I was still spent so I never bothered stopping.

Happy hunting![/QUOTE]Tried this tonight.

Wow, the service was super super fast. 15 minutes. I got the "it's too big" routine, so she kept stopping me from putting it all the way in. The talent was okay, and chatty, but man, the upsell to 300kuai was nonstop. And man, she wanted to finish quickly. Really nice, good sense of humor. I will say, I think I prefer a long, drawn out HE vs. This ultra ST.

I should say that I went at 9:30pm, so maybe they were super busy.

I probably won't go back, I think I'll try Sacrosa and / or Bodi.

Can anyone give detailed directions to Sacrosa? It's at Line 2 Century Ave station, yes?

[QUOTE=ChinasXDude;1305821]I probably won't go back, I think I'll try Sacrosa and / or Bodi.Can anyone give detailed directions to Sacrosa? It's at Line 2 Century Ave station, yes?[/QUOTE]SACROSA - I can only help you with some indications useful for a taxi. See attachments

[QUOTE=Marty47; 1304399]She is quite a hottie and is a nympho. Been with her a few times to kill an afternoon. Husband knows what she does-he can't take care of her needs. Pushing 70. She is nice once you get to know her. I would spend more time with her, but she flat wears you out!

Give it another try, if she lets you.[/QUOTE]Well, with all this buzz about Angela, I had to do some field work myself. Found her ad on Craigslist (just search "Discreet" in w4m in personals. After exchanging several e-mails we decided to meet at a public place. My first impression was that she was about a 5 out of 10. So during our conversation, I'm trying to get my big head and little head to agree on going forward or not. After a bit of conversation, we both agreed that we were not going to proceed forward. I had told her I was not comfortable with her and she echoed the same sentiment.

She's not running any type of scam. She's a nice lady just rying to have some fun; just not my physical type and is not hottie material in my book. Although there is a cuteness about her and can see how she may be attractive to some. To each his own, nothing ventured nothing gained.

[QUOTE=Moonstruck; 1306022]Well, with all this buzz about Angela, I had to do some field work myself. Found her ad on Craigslist (just search "Discreet" in w4m in personals. After exchanging several e-mails we decided to meet at a public place. My first impression was that she was about a 5 out of 10. So during our conversation, I'm trying to get my big head and little head to agree on going forward or not. After a bit of conversation, we both agreed that we were not going to proceed forward. I had told her I was not comfortable with her and she echoed the same sentiment.

She's not running any type of scam. She's a nice lady just rying to have some fun; just not my physical type and is not hottie material in my book. Although there is a cuteness about her and can see how she may be attractive to some. To each his own, nothing ventured nothing gained.[/QUOTE]I thought the same thing until I got her in bed.

[QUOTE=Five Aces; 1304230]This was a green and white taxi which usually you can trust like the light blue "the joing taxi." Two times I have been cheated by drivers in them though. Both times on a weekend and late at night, once I was quite drunk. They are probably part timers.

I usually get rid of my coins by giving them to beggers.[/QUOTE]I lived in Shanghai for the last 8 years, I must say that majority of the taxi drivers are honest people. There are many new drivers on the street and also many of these drivers are from outskirt of Shanghai and also some are new in the trade, hence they are not valid familiar with the roads. If I have to go to some remote places or places that are far away from the city centre, what I normally do is when I board the taxi, always look at the taxi license number which is displaced in front of the glass panel, if their license starts with 30, they are new drivers. If you have a driver who has a license number starting with 34. (He is likely to be on the road only for weeks or just a few months) and you are not familiar with where you are going, I will suggest that you take another taxi.

Enjoy your stay in Shanghai.

[QUOTE=SamCan; 1305551]Go down the alley next to the hilton. There are 3 massage places. The one you want is a place called royal massage. They only do two massages. 358 rmb a one hour massage plus HJ or 458 for a one hour massage including BJ. There are only 3 girls working there so choices are limited. There is almost always one gem. The place was recently renovated so there are now showers in each room.

They open around 1pm and are open until 2am.

It is a little pricey compared to the other options, but if you are at the Shanghai Hilton, you can definately find it and it is 4 minutes from the front door![/QUOTE]Ah, I've also been there before. Small place but clean and rather nice looking. Had a pretty cute girl, forgot her name. It was a covered BJ though so it wasn't great, had to take of condom and get her to give me a HJ to finish but she was very nice although she spoke very little english. My friend opted for the HJ one and said his girl was cute but not very interested. Right as we were leaving a couple of asian businessmen saw us walking out and quickly walked in behind us.

Little background: I'm just an intern in shanghai currently for 2 months so I had limited money / time to go to these things.

Also note: this isn't a hidden gem story, I have little experience and just thought I would share my experience.

In any case I went to a MP in a hotel my friends were staying at. Rayfont jiudian on xietu lu by ruijinan lu.

Whether you guys want to try it out or not is up to you, girls arent great, I've been there twice and they were both probably in their 30's.

In any case, first time going there was my first time in a massage. I go and get the oil massage which was 238 I believe. So the front desk lady takes me into a room and gives me these disposable shorts and shirt. I put them on and in comes this average sized girl with honestly a not very attractive face (face:4/10. Body:4/10). Not hideous (arguable) but definitely not average. She had a belly roll going and if it wasn't for her large breasts I would have been seriously disappointed. It was my first time and definitely didn't / still not sure if your allowed to just ask for another masseuse. In any case I didn't and got the standard HJ but I had to tip 200. I could have easily gone down to 100 but again this was my first time and I was quite nervous. Lesson learned got a oil massage that was average and a HJ for total 438.

Came back a few weeks later when I was bored and tired I tried it out again but this time I opted for the Chinese massage which was 98rmb. I figured they all would offer HE so might as well get the cheaper massage as well as I didn't really want oil all over me. The lady that came in this time was about mid 30s but her face was rather attractive. She also had large breasts which was nice. Anyway she started asking me alot of questions like where I'm from and what nationality I am, etc. She seemed oddly interested and I guess she was attracted to me. She started giving me a massage and kept holding my hand or rubbing my face as I was getting the massage. On the flip she asked me if I wanted a HJ. I said sure and she went,"200?". This time I knew better and said I only had 100rmb, which actually was true. I came in with only 200, just enough for the massage and HJ. So she started the HJ and immediately took her shirt off. As I played with her breasts I pulled her pants and panties off and started fingering her. She made a half assed attempt to stop me and then soon spread her legs apart. I sat up and got a better reach and pretty soon she let me fuck her. I ended up coming in her mouth and thats when she asked for 200 since it ended up FS. I told her again I only had 100 and even showed her my wallet. She seemed alittle disappointed but I think she wanted the FS anyways.

Besides those 2 times I went to the royal massage someone below posted. I responded in another response so you can read for yourself. Nothing spectacular.

In any case massage parlors seemed like a good way for me to start since I was pretty nervous and had never done this before but was rather easy to walk into. I'm so nervous and shy about this stuff because I feel out of place because I'm a young. 22yo, asian and I don't speak Chinese. But its honestly a thrill and I'd try it more if I wasnt so shy to do these things alone. Since this was my friends hotel it was much more easier for me to just walk down get it and come back up but for the royal massage, the other place I went to, I took a friend so it was also easy.

I definitely want to try a bbs but honestly doubt my friend would be interested in that / would rather not ask and reading the reports seems like it takes experience to be comfortable going in. Any advice on that? I'll probably head over to the anyuan bbs's if I do get the courage to go since its fairly close to me but with the locals assuming I'm Chinese, I keep thinking it would be strange for a young Chinese guy to walk in to a BBS. Or is that all in my head?

[QUOTE=Jkxdk;1306645]I definitely want to try a bbs but honestly doubt my friend would be interested in that / would rather not ask and reading the reports seems like it takes experience to be comfortable going in. Any advice on that? I'll probably head over to the anyuan bbs's if I do get the courage to go since its fairly close to me but with the locals assuming I'm Chinese, I keep thinking it would be strange for a young Chinese guy to walk in to a BBS. Or is that all in my head?[/QUOTE]There's really nothing to it, walking into a BBS that is. I remember asking a shitload of questions before walking into one myself, but after that I realized I was being overly paranoid. Over at AnYuan Lu there are several of them lined up one after another. They are all competing for your business so they might come on a little strong and overwhelming. Just walk by them slowly, check out the goods, and smile at them, remember which one has the most women because chance of getting a better looking one will be higher, a probability thing. Once you've reached the end, turn around and walk back. Once you get over the hurdle of walking into one of them, you'll be ok. Just go with the flow and follow their lead. Remember it's 200 or 300 RMB, don't over pay.

You're a regular member, can't leave you a PM. It would be fun BBS hunting together.

[QUOTE=Arizona123; 1306726]There's really nothing to it, walking into a BBS that is. I remember asking a shitload of questions before walking into one myself, but after that I realized I was being overly paranoid. Over at AnYuan Lu there are several of them lined up one after another. They are all competing for your business so they might come on a little strong and overwhelming. Just walk by them slowly, check out the goods, and smile at them, remember which one has the most women because chance of getting a better looking one will be higher, a probability thing. Once you've reached the end, turn around and walk back. Once you get over the hurdle of walking into one of them, you'll be ok. Just go with the flow and follow their lead. Remember it's 200 or 300 RMB, don't over pay.

You're a regular member, can't leave you a PM. It would be fun BBS hunting together.[/QUOTE]It'd be great to go with someone, especially one whose had more experience. I'm only here for a week and a half before I go to Seoul but I'd be down to meet up. Not sure the rules on posting phone number / email, but if its alright I could post either of them?

[QUOTE=Jkxdk;1306645]I'll probably head over to the anyuan bbs's if I do get the courage to go since its fairly close to me but with the locals assuming I'm Chinese, I keep thinking it would be strange for a young Chinese guy to walk in to a BBS. Or is that all in my head?[/QUOTE]Most people who go to BBS's are Chinese, so this isn't strange at all. I've seen plenty of young guys going in and checking it out. The only part they'll find strange is that you're a Chinese-looking guy who doesn't speak the language. But, since they deal with foreigners quite a bit, this is no real problem at all. Good luck!

Been away from Shanghai for awhile and looking to buy some Cialis again to support my mongering activities while I am here. If anyone knows where I can buy some non prescription Cialis in Shanghai, please PM me. Thanks!

[QUOTE=Jkxdk;1306746]It'd be great to go with someone, especially one whose had more experience. I'm only here for a week and a half before I go to Seoul but I'd be down to meet up. Not sure the rules on posting phone number / email, but if its alright I could post either of them?[/QUOTE]Forum rules are in the FAQ. Read them and you will know

[QUOTE=Gumbywhit;1306884]Been away from Shanghai for awhile and looking to buy some Cialis again to support my mongering activities while I am here. If anyone knows where I can buy some non prescription Cialis in Shanghai, please PM me. Thanks![/QUOTE]I've never had a problem obtaining Vitamin V or Cialis in Shanghai.

Most pharmacies should happily sell you without prescription.

Just ask for Xi Li Shi (pronounced Cee-li-shi) or just write Cialis in English on a piece of paper.

[QUOTE=Jkxdk;1306645]I definitely want to try a bbs ... and reading the reports seems like it takes experience to be comfortable going in. Any advice on that? I'll probably head over to the anyuan bbs's if I do get the courage to go since its fairly close to me but with the locals assuming I'm Chinese, I keep thinking it would be strange for a young Chinese guy to walk in to a BBS. Or is that all in my head?[/QUOTE]All you have to do is stand near the door and they will grab you, pull you in and organize the whole thing. You need to make certain, as soon as you get inside, that they know exactly what you want and what the price is. Mostly they will accept 200 BJ and 300 FS. These are already prices for foreigners. They might try for more (young and good looking ones especially) so be firm. Pun intended.

I would go with you if you want. I am laowai with experience. Pay the man his $20 to sign up and send me a PM.

[QUOTE=Jkxdk;1306746]It'd be great to go with someone, especially one whose had more experience. I'm only here for a week and a half before I go to Seoul but I'd be down to meet up. Not sure the rules on posting phone number / email, but if its alright I could post either of them?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Doitunderwater;1307091]I would go with you if you want. I am laowai with experience. Pay the man his $20 to sign up and send me a PM.[/QUOTE]I'd love to come with you guys, but unfortunatley I got no credit card. I'm from germany with Chinese roots and also have little experience with bbs. (been there once when I was totally wasted. Can't remember where it was tho) the sex was average because the gal was probably really tired at 1 am. Got a decent BJ and fucked her till the time was over. I have hard time cumming when I'm super drunk. Like jkxdk I'm in my ealy 20s and feel rather "bad" going into these places, but I rlly want to go there again, not alone tho.

[QUOTE=Jkxdk;1306637]Ah, I've also been there before. Small place but clean and rather nice looking. Had a pretty cute girl, forgot her name. It was a covered BJ though so it wasn't great, had to take of condom and get her to give me a HJ to finish but she was very nice although she spoke very little english. My friend opted for the HJ one and said his girl was cute but not very interested. Right as we were leaving a couple of asian businessmen saw us walking out and quickly walked in behind us.[/QUOTE]Actually picked up my freebie girlfriend there a year ago. We hit it off, she moved on to work expensive hotels. I don't go to China anymore, , I miss her, best sex I ever had. No she did not do FS there. It progressed after buying her little things. They used to allow take out to the hilton for a massage / HE, but I have not been there in a long time.

[QUOTE=Doitunderwater;1307091]I would go with you if you want. I am laowai with experience. Pay the man his $20 to sign up and send me a PM.[/QUOTE]I coughed up the money, expect a pm tomorrow!

[QUOTE=Mgp23; 1302666]6) Ruijin Lu, Fuxing Lu.

Atmosphere is also of a legit MP, no shower thou. Massage is 227, but HJ is paid extra 200 (they will ask 300, and I never managed to get it for 100). I would say this will be expensive for the service they have, but sometimes I like to go there when I want a legit massage (which is really pro) , and a HJ just to end well. Sometimes you can see a tit or touch a little more if you speak Chinese.

That's all, hope you guys can comment and contribute with other places or girls numbers on these places.

Mgp[/QUOTE]I went there this evening but did not get offered any extra services. When I got there, I saw only one massage for 227 but that seemed to be a Chinese massage with two women working on you at the same time. I said I only wanted one and the other one left. When the massage was over they only charged me 120 which is pretty typical for a normal massage.

227 seems pretty expensive for a normal Chinese or oil massage. Did you have two women? What type of massage do you get? Have you always been offered a happy ending?

There are a 3-4 MPs at that crossing.

I guess the discussion is about the one on the South-East Corner on Ryujin-Lu.

Yes, relative expensive, but it is very clean and a good atmosphere.

I also believe to remember that the relative high prize without HJ is for 120 minutes massage?

[QUOTE=Eastbound; 1307241]I went there this evening but did not get offered any extra services. When I got there, I saw only one massage for 227 but that seemed to be a Chinese massage with two women working on you at the same time. I said I only wanted one and the other one left. When the massage was over they only charged me 120 which is pretty typical for a normal massage.

227 seems pretty expensive for a normal Chinese or oil massage. Did you have two women? What type of massage do you get? Have you always been offered a happy ending?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Marty47;1306133]I thought the same thing until I got her in bed.[/QUOTE]I'm another who didn't get that far. Now I remember why Shanghai women are feared across the length and breadth of the region.

Hi guys,

Any opinion on Butterfly Massage in Zhongshan Park?

I am in Renaissance Zhonghsan Park Hotel, and that is the only MP I found in the area. The name does not ring my bell from previous RTTF. So I was wondering whether it was a new place or a fully legit place or whatever.

[QUOTE=Eastbound; 1307241]I went there this evening but did not get offered any extra services. When I got there, I saw only one massage for 227 but that seemed to be a Chinese massage with two women working on you at the same time. I said I only wanted one and the other one left. When the massage was over they only charged me 120 which is pretty typical for a normal massage.

227 seems pretty expensive for a normal Chinese or oil massage. Did you have two women? What type of massage do you get? Have you always been offered a happy ending?[/QUOTE]Are you sure you went to the right place? If you are in Fuxing Lu with Ruijin Lu, just go south on Ruijin on the left side. There's a small reception on ground floor, you take off your shoes then go up. I have always been offered HE, just go and say oil massage, on the menu it's 90 minutes, but ask a 60 minutes, maybe I was wrong, the price is 128 for 60'.

So I was walking around the area near siyuan and noticed on the same street, just a bit in the back, there are 2 massage places next to each other with an archery place between them. Anyone know what that's all about? One on the left looks to be a foot massage place on the 2nd floor except they have a condom dispenser at the beginning of the staircase. The one on the right seems to be a spa. Looks shady as they're kinda hidden. Ring any bells?

[QUOTE=Nonlinear; 1303005]Sounds like you didn't have a good experience at this MP. I think you're describing the MPs right by the Eton Hotel on Chang Yi Lu.

Which one did you go into? The one with the big "Massage" sign at the corner, or another one? I ask because I'll be staying at the Eton Hotel in a couple of months.

Anybody else have any experiences with these MPs?[/QUOTE]Hi Nonlinear. No this place is not very near to the Eton Hotel. As you walk up Pudian Lu away from Pudong Nan Lu going toward Nan Quan Lu it's the first one on the right. It has a red sign and dark smoked-glass windows.

I think that my problems here were pretty much of my own making; I should have negotiated harder and insisted on getting what I wanted!

Hello,

I have been to bodi / sacrosa many times and I want to try sth new. However, I could not find heting. Can anyone please post the card or adress for a taxi?

Thanks!

[QUOTE=DonLuis; 1307308]Hi guys,

Any opinion on Butterfly Massage in Zhongshan Park?

I am in Renaissance Zhonghsan Park Hotel, and that is the only MP I found in the area. The name does not ring my bell from previous RTTF. So I was wondering whether it was a new place or a fully legit place or whatever.[/QUOTE]Isn't that near gubei lu? Corner of gubei lu and Maotai lu (I think that is the spelling) is a hotel called braway or Broway (or something very close to that ). Right next to it on maotai lu is a massage joint. It says massage, sometimes there is a girl in the door in a short skirt. You go in and they are doing nails. Go up one flight of stairs and get an oil massage. My understanding is the HE is included. It is only around 240 RMB. Go check it out and write a report!

My EX-Chinese girlfriend massage girl has a friend that worked there. Understanding is what I stated above.

Good luck

Does anyone know of any good saunas to find girls that do BBBJ and CIM? And more than one shot?

There are many massage parlors in that area. I am a little hazy about directions, but I got on line 10 to.

Shuicheng Road Station. Walk south, pass under the Yan'An elevated road&12290; There is a Wagas on the left soon after. The next street you cross may be Ronghua East. Anyway that is the road you want. Go left on to Ronghua. Soon you will.

See a combo bar / massage place. There are many girls there all in black skirts and white blouses. That's on the right side of the street. Directly across the way is another massage place&12290; If you continue east to #98 you will.

Find two MP's side by side. I had lots of fun there at #98 Ronghua East Road. I was offered BJ for 400. The legendary #9 who moved there from Jingan told me it was to be renovated in June. Please somebody go to this street and give us some reports. #9.

Is taking care of her mother somewhere, but who knows, she may surface again. #98 Ronghua was a very naughty place.

Don't keep asking us where is the action, boys. Go.

Out and find it and share!

BJ 4987.

Sorry to cut up your post Sam. I need to learn how to.

Bracket a report so people know what I a referring to. Anyway, Sam come back!

That near gubei lu? Corner of gubei lu and Maotai lu (I think that is the spelling) is a hotel called braway or Broway (or something very close to that ). Right next to it on maotai lu is a massage joint. It says massage, sometimes there is a girl in the door in a short skirt. You go in and they are doing nails. Go up one flight of stairs and get an oil massage. My understanding is the HE is included. It is only around 240 RMB. Go check it out and write a report!

My EX-Chinese girlfriend massage girl has a friend that worked there. Understanding is what I stated above.

Good luck[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hansoon;1307862]Does anyone know of any good saunas to find girls that do BBBJ and CIM? And more than one shot?[/QUOTE]Have you searched the shanghai thread for what you want?

Teltwe

I've not visited the Butterfly, but you're not far from the place on Wuyi Lu (West of the corner with DingXi Lu Southern side of the street) that reputedly offiers real threesome experience for 800, Can't remember the name, but if you search my threads, I replied to someone who had mentioned it, about 200m west of the intersection. Also lots of little places around there offering varying degrees of service, all with in walkig distance.

Has anyone found out where is the BBS that has the girl with "the biggest natural melons of China" somebody reported some time ago. I'll be really glad if someone could share!

[QUOTE=Beijing4987; 1307897]The legendary #9 who moved there from Jingan told me it was to be renovated in June. Please somebody go to this street and give us some reports. #9.

Is taking care of her mother somewhere, but who knows, she may surface again. #98 Ronghua was a very naughty place.

Good luck[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]Oh boy, #9 was simply the best.

[QUOTE=Mgp23;1307619]Are you sure you went to the right place? If you are in Fuxing Lu with Ruijin Lu, just go south on Ruijin on the left side. There's a small reception on ground floor, you take off your shoes then go up. I have always been offered HE, just go and say oil massage, on the menu it's 90 minutes, but ask a 60 minutes, maybe I was wrong, the price is 128 for 60'.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the information. I was at the one on the north side of Fuxing! I'll try again sometime soon.

[QUOTE=Mgp23;1308117][/QUOTE]Oh boy, #9 was simply the best.[/QUOTE]I saw her last on Ronghua road in May. Wang Ting is a legend ! What a great sensual massage artist. All my buddies raved about her. But #18 is still around. A few of you guys know her.

[QUOTE=Gsam1212;1307673]So I was walking around the area near siyuan and noticed on the same street, just a bit in the back, there are 2 massage places next to each other with an archery place between them. Anyone know what that's all about? One on the left looks to be a foot massage place on the 2nd floor except they have a condom dispenser at the beginning of the staircase. The one on the right seems to be a spa. Looks shady as they're kinda hidden. Ring any bells?[/QUOTE]Check out my post #4007 for the place on the left with the condom dispenser and #4241 for the place on the right. In short, go left.

SH

Here is the story of my really sad sad day, which ended up finally great hopefully.

I was staying in Renaissance Zhongshan Park, and decided to investigate the area. Blindly. Which was probably not smart. Problem is that Zhongshan Park area is huge, and so-called walking distance can quickly turn to hell in that heat.

I first went to Butterfly massage. And to clarify previous posts on this forums, I came to realize (too late) that there a 4 Butterfly Massage in Shanghai.

Anyway, arrived, was greeted by hottie lady, looked at the menu, and saw the 4-hands Butterfly Massage which seemed pretty appealing. Had to wait for a few minutes in which I was hoping the massage would be given by the 2 ladies at the reception desk. Was asked to follow one of them to a massage room. And that's where the shitty day start: 2 guys were already getting a massage in the room, and then, for my massage, came a girl. And a guy! Long story short, disaster, also the massage was not good as the guy was busy trying to break all bones in my body, while the lady was talking all the time. Anyway, I did not make it last very long. And on my way out, I was clearer on my expectations, and I was clearly explained that there was no HE in this specific MP.

Here you are, now you know. That's one for the team.

Went for a quick dinner, then started walking around again. Could not find any goddamn MP, litterally nothing, not a joke, I have been walking in circles around the hotel for 90 minutes, and nothing, except Spa's which were women only. Finally ended up going to Everlasting Spa. Which is right next to Butterfly massage. Went for the Swedish oil massage. And quickly understood I was not going to get anything when they asked me if I had an issue with a man doing the massage. Which I rejected. Had a masseuse. Massage was pretty good I must say. Not as soft as you could expect a swedish to be (remember the guy broke all my bones in the previous MP few hours ago). But there again, she smartly avoided all body part from my knee to my belly to make sure there was no misunderstanding. So all in all, another disaster.

Here you are, now you know. That's another one for the team.

I was a little bit desperate. And saw a KTV right nearby. I thought it could not be worse than what the day had been so far, so why not giving a try. However, when I arrived in front of the elevator and the 2 guys proposed me some kind of buffer stuff. I prefered to decline and go back to my hotel.

I then thought I would go for an outcall. I tried several so called "independant" girls I randomly found on internet, but got no answer. They all called / smsed back few hours later though. Anyway. I then went to chinaoutcallservice. Com, and handled everything via mail. 700RMB, and I could chose the lady on their website. Went for #7 which looked amazing. And I clearly specified not to try someone else.

30 minutes later, knock on the door of the hotel room. And guess what: not the same girl. And an ugly one even. I told her to f*k off as I had warned her boss. She seemed a little bit embarrassed. So I showed her the mails, and told her I would no pay for her taxi, she has to fix it with her boss.

Here you are, now you know. That's another one for the team.

At that point, I realized I would not get anything, and thought it probably was a better idea to simply get wasted. There again, long story short. Went to the lobby bar, after a few drinks, met an american girl. On business trip. Hated to stay alone in hotel room so prefer to have a drink. Within 30 minutes, we were back in my room. It was a freebie, but I kept on thinking the all time that she was in fact a pretty expensive one adding the costs of the first 2 massages, and the time spent walking those streets.

Going there again next week. Hope to be luckier on the MP. Or as lucky on the hotel guests.

Are you guys talking about Wang Ting who used to work in MP on the corner of Wanhangdu Lu Wuning Nan Lu? Where is she now?

Hi guys,

I would like your expert advice on outcall massages.

Aside for the price which is sometimes way too high (guess you need to pay for the luxury of choosing a girl from your sofa) , I would like to know whether you can recommend a website or even a girl.

Basically, on most websites. 99. 9% of the ads are from agencies, meaning that the girl on the picture is not the one you will get. And in 100% of times, you will be disappointed.

So I wonder whether you know good website, or simply can advise girls for outcall massage.

Gracias Amigos.

[QUOTE=Beijing4987;1308331]Oh boy, #9 was simply the best.[/QUOTE]I saw her last on Ronghua road in May. Wang Ting is a legend ! What a great sensual massage artist. All my buddies raved about her. But #18 is still around. A few of you guys know her.[/QUOTE]#18 in Jing An or on Ronhua Lu?

Alright, so the time from Sunday afternoon till Tuesday noon is all I have left of China (at least until my return, probably 2, 3 years down the line). Time that needs to be spend wisely and hopefully drowning in pussy.

The question just is: "What to do in the last 1 1/2 days?" What would you do? What did you do? Advice and Recommendations needed (on places as well as on girls).

I was thinking of going to Manhattan Sunday Night for some South-East Asian Take Out (although I don't really like the place) , looking for something young, tight-bodied and cute with not too small breasts. Also on my list would be to try out ShangHangins recommended place with the condom dispenser at the front and a trip down a Shanghai BBS Strip. I would also go for a Sauna Session. Which one is to be recommended, given that I am looking for 2 pops minimum (best 3) and a time limit of rather 90 than 60 minutes (price should not succeed takeout at Manhattan).

It would also be nice to have anal on the menu at least once.

[QUOTE=Vannamond;1308779]Are you guys talking about Wang Ting who used to work in MP on the corner of Wanhangdu Lu Wuning Nan Lu? Where is she now?[/QUOTE]

Yes. There was only one by that name and number. She must have the Wanhangdu address under duress. The place was renovated and she moved to the Changping lu location because there a report of her working there. I saw her a few times on #98 Ronghua Lu.That place was to be renovated in June, so she left to take care of her mom. She will not respond to my texts anymore, so I gave up. Anybody want to sponsor her? Those who knew her special technique will remember her fondly. There are more Wang Tings out there. #18 is still there at the same location. She put's on an energetic show. That's all I can say now.

BJ

Hi there! I live in China since a while, but only recently get connected to this Forum.

I'd like to give my contribution as personal introduction:

SAUNA.

Bodi. Tried #565, was better looking sometimes ago, but she still hot and gives a very good deepthroat BJ. She loves DATY. No kiss.

#592, a mongolian chick, not young, but still with gorgeous body and great skills. She likes it big, something very rare around. Sic! DATY OK, great kisser.

Sacrosa. After the #267 left (one of the best BJ I ever had) , tried the already suggested #311, che looks good, great big natural boobs, but professional attitude and average BJ. No DATY. No kiss.

#281, hot body, boobs grow up at a later stage. She is very skilled in BJ, not really DT, but awesome style. No DATY. No kiss.

Both in Bodi and Sacrosa I had no problem to have 2 shoots, but the session in Sacrosa is longer and the deal is more reasonable. Ok, Bodi has got a much better environment, but I do not really care about it.

MASSAGE.

Tried several in Pudong Wuhan Lu, the place on the opposite side of the DVD shop has more options, one girl told me that they also provide FS, but it should be 600RMB up upsale.

For such a price a rather go to the near Sacrosa.

I saw that several massage parlours at the cross between Pudong ZhangYang Lu and YuanShen Lu are closed. I got good memories of a hot chick there, but nothing more than HE and some panties exploration. Going further to the cross between ZhangYang lu and MinSheng Lu there is a Massage "Club" with a black sign (you can't miss it, not much more around, just a strip of shops). I got a BBJ with CIM 3-4 months ago, overpriced (200+500) , but I really had the right mood with that girl (no number, sorry.). I think it is even possible to get more if regular customers.

I tried also the place at the cross between ChangPing Lu and ShangXi Lu (the one with the black sign. 2nd floor). First time with #29, good looking and good BJ for 288Y.

Went back with the same one, she was horny! . And fucked her with no surcharge, I guess it was my lucky time, that I repeated last week, with a tip of 100Y (as pro I was feeling guilty).

In a more wild Pudong Nanmatou lu, Qihe Lu near DongMing Lu there are several small massage places, that offer a more wild a poor massage followed by fake tongue licking and HJ for 2/300Y. Not great fun.

Starting from Pudong ChangQing Lu on HaiYang Lu, there are several Massage places and BBS. Tried once a BBS for FS+BJat300Y. Really nice girls, but laoway not really welcome. When I see those serious faces from the glass, I do not really get in the right mood. Just take care there, I have seen the police getting inside those places more than once. Scary!

QQ GIRLS.

Tried #1731094640. She is in Putuo. The number is not working anymore. One of the worst fuck of my entire life. No need to add details, right?

Went to one more that lives near XiZangNan Lu Tunnel in Puxi. Lost the QQ number. When she see me naked she apologized and refuse for a matter of structural adjustment (too big for her).

I would like to get a number of a chick that likes the big sizes, good looking even if not necessarily young (but not more than 40 please.).

That's it for now. Any suggestion for QQ much appreciated, thanks

[QUOTE=ScaPom; 1309009]Alright, so the time from Sunday afternoon till Tuesday noon is all I have left of China (at least until my return, probably 2, 3 years down the line). Time that needs to be spend wisely and hopefully drowning in pussy.

The question just is: "What to do in the last 1 1/2 days?" What would you do? What did you do? Advice and Recommendations needed (on places as well as on girls).

I was thinking of going to Manhattan Sunday Night for some South-East Asian Take Out (although I don't really like the place) , looking for something young, tight-bodied and cute with not too small breasts. Also on my list would be to try out ShangHangins recommended place with the condom dispenser at the front and a trip down a Shanghai BBS Strip. I would also go for a Sauna Session. Which one is to be recommended, given that I am looking for 2 pops minimum (best 3) and a time limit of rather 90 than 60 minutes (price should not succeed takeout at Manhattan).

It would also be nice to have anal on the menu at least once.[/QUOTE]Seriously, (IMHO) the easiest way to 'drown in pussy' would be to take a quick hop to either Manila, AC, or Bangkok.

[QUOTE=Vannamond;1308779]Are you guys talking about Wang Ting who used to work in MP on the corner of Wanhangdu Lu Wuning Nan Lu? Where is she now?[/QUOTE]I am talking about #9 that used to work on Shaanxi Lu, Changping Lu. On Shaanxi Lu, going north to the left before the crossing. About 35, but pretty, nice tits and awesome service. She left there that's for sure.

I think she's the same Beijing said moved to Ronghua Lu. What about #18, are you talking about Ronghua? I'm going to try her!

[QUOTE=DonLuis; 1308486]Here is the story of my really sad sad day, which ended up finally great hopefully.

Here you are, now you know. That's another one for the team.

At that point, I realized I would not get anything, and thought it probably was a better idea to simply get wasted. There again, long story short. Went to the lobby bar, after a few drinks, met an american girl. On business trip. Hated to stay alone in hotel room so prefer to have a drink. Within 30 minutes, we were back in my room. It was a freebie, but I kept on thinking the all time that she was in fact a pretty expensive one adding the costs of the first 2 massages, and the time spent walking those streets.

Going there again next week. Hope to be luckier on the MP. Or as lucky on the hotel guests.[/QUOTE]I feel for you man! Years ago I had a similar experience. Have the concierge write Changping lu / Shanxi lu on a card. Go to the place with a taxi on shanxi lu Corner. The place is great for 206rmb. I think you are supposed to tip but they don't ask. I have been there 3 times and the experience was one of the better HE I have had. You get titty action, a lot of touching is allowed and there is no pressure for a tip. Ask for number 18 (shi ba). After it is done, she will stand outside the shower and wash you down like you are her baby. A very nice touch. (not the same 18 as wanhangdu lu who is also very good). At some point, I need to write a report