Jakarta

[QUOTE=Jaimito Cartero;1120313]I've heard that they have now blocked DIA within Indonesia.[/QUOTE]Why should they do that? It is just a dating website.

I'm in Papua and can't open it with a Telkomsel Flash Modem as it keeps stating Access Denied.

But, you also ended up selling those same reports on your site, right? And was the Philippines report pulled from ol' Tom's site?

[QUOTE=Sir Lancelot;1120423]Firstly, thank you very much for providing me with so much great information to help me plan my forthcoming trip. I will be in Jakarta in three weeks time and have RTTF to such a degree, my eyes are nearly bleeding. I have trawled through over 50 pages of information and have got lots of good tips. Nevertheless, I have some questions. In return for your help, I will post lengthy reports, as I did after my trip to Philippines last year.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Danibbler;1120649]But, you also ended up selling those same reports on your site, right? And was the Philippines report pulled from ol' Tom's site?[/QUOTE]Tell us more about Sir Lancelot.

[QUOTE=Danibbler;1120649]But, you also ended up selling those same reports on your site, right? And was the Philippines report pulled from ol' Tom's site?[/QUOTE]Yeah, that's right. Thommo decided that he wanted his site to be just his own words which is completely understandable. My Philippines diary was initially posted on his site (am I allowed to post a link?) but he recommended that I start up my own site, which is exactly what I did. Although it has my diaries from Thailand / Phils, the main bit of the site is the 'Secret Diaries of a Sex Tourist' weekly blog. Have you been reading? Sometimes it feels like I'm talking to myself on there.

I don't think I'm allowed to post a link. I personally don't regard my site as competition to this forum. Indeed, I even posted huge chunks of my Philippines diary (including photos) in the Philippines thread.

Danibbler, here's what Thommo said:

"I expect in time, Sir Lance, a former journalist, to become an internet front runner on the subject of sex tourism. Stick with him, for I believe in the not too distant future he is about to take off and plunder yet again the Maidens of the Far East and report in graphic detail. Oh to be young again. Thommo :)"

And that's why I'm on this forum now, researching my next trip. I'll be in Indonesia in three weeks time, writing my next 'secret diary'. I wanted to go somewhere new and exciting. That is why I posted below, to find information about the must-see places I have read about on this very forum. If you can help answer any of my questions, I'd be extremely grateful.

Regards,

Sir Lancelot.

Ps. Thommo exaggerated with the 'front runner' bit. There are about seven million people better qualified for that accolade here on ISG!

These shots were taken a couple of years ago and the last time I saw her was around 1 year ago when she was working for some mamasan in kota somewhere. She used to be a Top Gun regular and hang out with Ria. First time I grabbed the two of them for a double show back to the Grand Kemang. Ria was more experienced or so it seemed the first night as Imel seemed a bit shy and not wanting to give a BJ so Rita performed the deed with relish. Boned the 2 of them in my drunken bourbon stupor for a couple of hours until I offloaded my second shot and Imel really didn't make an impression besides her cute looks and nice body. Anyway before they left I got Imel's number as I decided I wanted to try her out the next day by herself. During the day ring her up and get her back that evening and WOW she sucked my otong like a ravenous cannibal. Really blew my mind what a different girl she was from the night before. Ended up not even going out to TG but stayed home the whole night and boned her 5 times with 2 BBBJCIM. One of the most experienced sex machines I have been with for such a young chick. She also worked at Highway to Elle for a couple of months as a dancer. The reason I'm showing her face is so if anyone has seen her around kota way please PM me as I would love to catch up with her again. Last time I saw her she had put a bit of weight on tho and she may not have the pony cut anymore.

Recently I went to an Apotek to check the availability of Vit-V or C, but they didn't have, instead offered me a tablet called Exo-X, produced at Indonesia and said it is a herbal product for vitality & stamina of men. Have any one tried that?

Yup, bar was crap! Walked into where the band played and left 2 seconds later with shattered ear drums.

Spent a while talking to "anti?" around 28 good English, went to room for uncovered BJ and DATY. Tasty but pricy.

Will check out other hotels next time.

[QUOTE=FrenchTouch; 1118857]Hi, I personnally think the bar is crap.

I stayed twice in the Meridien. Shopped one time for a FL there. Reported a month ago or so. Most of the girls look either old or have had kids etc.

IMHO, if you can spare the time, nothing works better than DIA or other dating sites. Hookers in Indonesia, unlike in the Phils, deliver poor performance and limited enthusiasm. Freebies, even not 100% free, are much more interesting.

Costs a bit, but much more satisfying. Spend a little time on the sites. Date in Asia is free. Chat on yahoo or msn. Exchange pics. Cam. Half of them end up showing their tits or whole body. Those are 99% sure hit. With most of them, with a little finesse and some time spent talking, conversation goes about sex. How I will tie them with the belt of the bathrobe etc. Am currently working 3. Next time will have to bang two.

Enjoy. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Playboy2001;1121001]Recently I went to an Apotek to check the availability of Vit-V or C, but they didn't have, instead offered me a tablet called Exo-X, produced at Indonesia and said it is a herbal product for vitality & stamina of men. Have any one tried that?[/QUOTE]Ok so waiting for a followup report on this product.

Did you buy them and how much did you pay?

Did they work?

RL

[QUOTE=FrenchTouch;1118857]Hookers in Indonesia, unlike in the Phils, deliver poor performance and limited enthusiasm.[/QUOTE]I disagree with that. But I guess everyone has different experiences. I can speak Bahasa though so maybe that makes a difference. I do think the Flips speak english better than the indos. I won't say the indo hookers are better than the flip hookers in bed, but I will say that the indo hookers compared to the chicks on DIA are every bit as good in bed in my opinion. If you are saying indo hookers at places like hotel travel are lame fucks, I agree. In my experience, most of the north jakarta girls are like that. But I've had some fantastically wild sessions with girls from places like Bats and Blok M.

[QUOTE=Ian Oxon;1121453]Spent a while talking to "anti?" around 28 good English, went to room for uncovered BJ and DATY. Tasty but pricy.[/QUOTE]May I ask how much she charged?

On a side note, the band at Le Meridien is currently my favorite in Jakarta. I love their rendition of Keong Racun. That's the only bule band I've heard in town play that song.

[QUOTE=Robert Long; 1121473]Ok so waiting for a followup report on this product.

Did you buy them and how much did you pay?

Did they work?

RL[/QUOTE]Price: Rp. 45, 000 for 2 pills. Took 1 and did find some effect. I think its made in Indonesia with an instruction lefalet in both Bahasa and English. Still have one more left. Its long time since I took Vit-V, so unable to compare the effects of these two. Can try once!

After a four year absence, I finally made it back to Jakarta. The first time I was there, I spent four days chasing tail from Blok M to Atrium Mall and had success in both places. This time, I was intent on extending my experiences to the well-discussed hunting grounds of DIA, Red Square and the good ole streets.

I launched a profile on DIA about a week or two before landing and got a fair bit of interest. It wasn't hard to get them once they'd shown an interest, usually it just meant setting up a date. Of the two that I finally selected, one was a rich girl who just wanted to get away from daddy and the other a sweet virgin who was looking for Mr. Right. The first took a little more wooing, as she was 21 and not very used to the whole scene and the other was itching to stay with me from the first date. Trouble is, I know what virgins are like and I knew everything wasn't on the menu, so I only saw her once, sweet though she was.

Red Square. Now that's a place to go if you've got a little game. Second night, a girl just comes up to me and says "I want sex with you." I try to play it cool and figure out if she's on the game, but it seems that this is just your average **** who needs some dick. She had rich friends who did boring stuff with their rich husbands. This little vixen just loved sex. Harder and harder she begged for it until morning broke and I was too tired to go on. I told her a little rest and a little food would help. So I went out, grabbed a morning donut and popped a Cialis that I procured from my friendly neighbourhood apotek. An hour later and I was burying it deep inside her while she screamed into the pillow. Lovely girl.

I got lucky three times in all at RS, though after the third it started to get blurry. They play the same music and after four years of nothing, then to have all these skinny little girls in their sexy dresses jumping around, well I was disoriented and had to take a night off.

Well, I tried to take a night off, but I ended up at Blok M (as you do). I browsed for a long while, then chose a cute Bandung girl who was around 5'4" and 24 years old. 400K plus 30 for a taxi. She reminded me of my ex-girlfriend and had one of those supple round asses that I'd been looking for.

Things started to get confusing when I saw her in Red Square. She was just there for fun, she said. Ok, said I, but didn't try taking her again. I was on a no-repeat policy. I didn't end up finding anyone that night, so I headed up to Stadium. My memory of Stadium was hookers, hustlers and strobe lights and I must admit, not much has changed. I was courted by two girls, one of whom turned physical when it became obvious that I was taking the other one home. The one I took home told me her parents were away and she wanted to go out and do something. That something turned out to be me. To be honest, I think there is a very strong bule-fetish in Indonesia, one which I think only the Philippines can rival. They literally throw their pussies at you. I love it!

It had been a week and I'd been on a bit of a bender, a fact that I felt rather conscious of every time I walked through the reception of my hotel. So I set up a date with the spoiled rich girl from DIA. First date, dinner and chatting, with no prospect of sex. Second date lunch and it felt like we were moving backwards. So I just put it all out there. Come back to my hotel with me now. She said she'd think about it. An hour later, I was sliding off her panties and looking at the tight box of a 21 year old. Yee-ha! Sometimes it's best to put it all out there. You can go so far with courtship and the high quality girls definitely need a bit of this, but to waste time on something that is not going to go anywhere is not worth it. Holidays are only so long. For amateurs, it's all about trust. If you can show that you're a decent guy, then it's up to her to find a good excuse not to have sex.

I set up the other date from DIA a few days later, after extending my stay and changing my hotel (the walk of shame was getting too much to bear). The virgin was, to her account, a strict Muslim who was waiting for the right guy. She didn't mention that she loved to suck cock too. But later, as I was rubbing her body all over and she writhed about naked on the bed, I thought that Indonesian conceptions of religion are somewhat different to what I had expected.

The next day, I was in Blok M again exploring the terrain. Blok M mall is good if you're looking for a wifi zone, but in terms of mongering, I never saw any opportunities. Blok M Plaza was a little better, but never did I see a target that I could have honed in on. That night, I went back to Top Gun and was introduced to two sexy girls in black dresses, one with hair down past her ass. I spent the night giving her shit, which she really responded to. I told her I didn't want to take her home. She stormed off. She looked wild and that's fun, but I like sweet. However, when sweet didn't appear and I was heading home, I popped over to My Bar and there she was. I said sorry and that I did want her after all and things were sweet. A few drinks later and click click click, she was walking across the foyer of my new hotel.

This one was a firecracker. She wanted everything, oral, pussy, anal, CIM. I missed her mouth and gave her the Something About Mary, but she was a good sport about it. No discussion of money had taken place. I gave her 200 "for the taxi" and she said she normally got more for taxi. I asked her what kind of taxis she's been taking. No comment. When you add in all the drinks I bought her, I'd say it was easily a 400K investment. I was fine with it.

In conclusion, Jakarta was all I wanted it to be and more. There were opportunities that I passed up, such as when a car full of girls stopped me on Jalan Jaksa and asked me to come party. It was too late / random and I was too hungry, but that could have been a great story. Then there were the cafes, girls on the street, girls shopping, girls with other guys who made my head spin and wish that I had more weeks to spare. Sadly, I didn't. But Jakarta is definitely on my next travel itinerary.

I envy all of you here who call this city home.

[QUOTE=Sir Lancelot; 1120423]Firstly, thank you very much for providing me with so much great information to help me plan my forthcoming trip. I will be in Jakarta in three weeks time and have RTTF to such a degree, my eyes are nearly bleeding. I have trawled through over 50 pages of information and have got lots of good tips. Nevertheless, I have some questions. In return for your help, I will post lengthy reports, as I did after my trip to Philippines last year.

4. I'm a big fan of massage parlours. The best I have ever been to is Nataree massage parlour in Bangkok (never seen so many pretty girls in the same place at the same time) although I also loved the soapy treatment I got at Cristins in Phuket. It seems Jakarta has many good options:

- Is it fair to say that Travel Hotel has the largest selection of pretty girls? It gets many good reports but what time should I be aiming to arrive? Travel seems to have lots of young pretty girls but I'm reading that Maribaya girls give better service (similar to Annie's in Bangkok?).

- Kartika and Berlian are two others I will certainly visit, although by the sounds of it there are a lot fewer girls than Travel Hotel. What time would be best to arrive? Do they both offer soapy massage?

Finally, if anyone has any other tips or recommendations, please let me know.

Regards,

Sir Lancelot[/QUOTE]IMHO there's no question. Kartika is the best place in Jakarta for a soapy massage, especially a 2-girl session. The soapy massage is automatice here, you don't have to ask for it.

Berlian also provides a soapy massage, but you have to ask ahead of time, and not all of the girls are good at it.

An alternative to Hotel Travel is Hotel Malioboro, which has been discussed extensively here on ISG

Don't forget Oasis for soapy massage. The girls there are better looking than the ones at Kartika or Berlian.

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman; 1121815]IMHO there's no question. Kartika is the best place in Jakarta for a soapy massage, especially a 2-girl session. The soapy massage is automatice here, you don't have to ask for it.

Berlian also provides a soapy massage, but you have to ask ahead of time, and not all of the girls are good at it.

An alternative to Hotel Travel is Hotel Malioboro, which has been discussed extensively here on ISG[/QUOTE]I've read a number of your posts on these boards and it seems that yours is an opinion I can trust, so thank you very much in advance for your help.

What is the best time to visit? I remember going to Sayuri in Chiang Mai and it was obvious I got there too soon (4pm) because the number of girls was limited but when I went to leave 90 minutes later, there were lots more pretty girls in the fishbowl. I've learnt that timing is everything at these massage parlours.

So what time is it best to visit Berlain, Kartika and Hotel Travel, how many girls approximately will there be and which has the prettiest? I will visit them all, I just want to make sure I get the optimum experience (which of course I will write about on here, with photos).

Also can you tell me more about Malioboro? Despite the fact I read 50+ pages on this thread alone, I only once made notes about Malioboro. Then again, it's quite possible I might have missed reports since there was a lot of info to try to take in. Similar set-up to Hotel Travel, with a large lounge and lots of girls to pick from?

Smoothy. I haven't heard of Oasis. Where is that?

Gonad Man. Thanks for the report. Really, really useful for someone who will be in Jakarta in two weeks. Red Square is on my shortlist but your report has persuaded me to visit. It seems from reports to be a bar / nightclub, so I'm guessing that the time to visit is after 10pm?

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1121831]Don't forget Oasis for soapy massage. The girls there are better looking than the ones at Kartika or Berlian.[/QUOTE]Smoothy, where is oasis as I wasn't impressed with Berlian or Kartika as the time I was there it was mainly older fat ugly puglys. There were a couple and I did indulge and it was great for a novelty thing but overall quality of talent below par. Maybe I went on a bad day.

Sir Lancelot, Hotel Travel & Hotel Classic are sofa brothels with in my opinion Hotel Classic better than HT due to the 2 for 400k special package. I always religiously went to Hotel Travel from 2005. Start of 2010 then after HT was renovated and started the 2 4 400 trick I converted to HT. Be prepared to be knocked back by some of the girls as they don't want to be with a Expat / bule as they prefer Chinese / japanese punters. It helps if you can speak Indo as I have always been able to sweet talk 80% of the ones who initially refuse me by talking to them, cracking jokes telling them your not a rough guy and also most of the mamasan's know me and sweet talk the girls for me. These places open at 13. 00 till 02. 00 but the best time for that WOW factor is around 16. 00. 18. 00 as you will walk into the place and all of the sofas are chockas brimming with trim. Usually the new girls who have the most debt will be working from 13. 00. 02. 00 to pay off their debt whereas the longer term ones who don't have much debt can start 16. 00 17. 00 18. 00 depending on the girl. Most of these girls are virtually sex slaves where their parents or in a lot of cases the girls themselves have borrowed money from the roaming agents going from village to village looking for talent. Most of these girls live in a supplied apartment building (mess) and are driven to and from their residence straight to work. There are some girls who have the own kost and these are the ones to try and hook up with after work. I have hooked up with these types before and usually their kosts are a honeycomb of wall to wall pussy, so you finish boning her then when your walking out of the building you front any other talent that tickles your fancy as they are all working girls. Most of those apartment building especially the ones 4-5 storeys high and no elevator cheaper are beehives of talent. If you go to 6th Floor. 5+1, Maribaya all the same place they are more experienced and hard core but after going to HT & HC you will notice the difference. If you go at night time ask for Rosa as she is a really nice chick with a hot bod and perky tits. She has quite large [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] flaps tho and had a see section but otherwise one of the better ones there.

I always get her to drop into my hotel after she knocks off work as she lives just near where I stay when I'm in Jakarta. Generally the soap houses have pretty average talent but follow Smoothy's advice and try the Oasis.

I took the second pill yestreday, must say its really good!

[QUOTE=KangK;1121982]Smoothy, where is oasis as I wasn't impressed with Berlian or Kartika as the time I was there it was mainly older fat ugly puglys. There were a couple and I did indulge and it was great for a novelty thing but overall quality of talent below par. Maybe I went on a bad day.[/QUOTE]Go to mangga besar and it's almost right across the street from lokasari. You mentioned you frequent hotel travel. HT is not a very far walk from oasis. In oasis, the ground floor has the sauna and the soapy girls are sitting on the first floor.

[QUOTE=KangK;1121990]follow Smoothy's advice and try the Oasis.[/QUOTE]Keep in mind that Jakarta is nothing compared to Bangkok for a soapy massage. Kartika is where you can get the best soapy massage in Jakarta, but the girls are not exactly stunners. You can find cuter ones in Oasis on occasion for sure but it's a bit hit and miss there. They don't have many girls who give a soapy there. But they do have a few cute girls.

My top recommendation in Jakarta is Malioboro for non-soapy fun. Ask the mamasan which girl can give a body to body massage. The girls oil themselves up and slide all over you. Those are fun as well.

[QUOTE=Smoothy; 1122039]Keep in mind that Jakarta is nothing compared to Bangkok for a soapy massage. Kartika is where you can get the best soapy massage in Jakarta, but the girls are not exactly stunners. You can find cuter ones in Oasis on occasion for sure but it's a bit hit and miss there. They don't have many girls who give a soapy there. But they do have a few cute girls.

My top recommendation in Jakarta is Malioboro for non-soapy fun. Ask the mamasan which girl can give a body to body massage. The girls oil themselves up and slide all over you. Those are fun as well. [/QUOTE]Smoothy,

At what time Oasis closes (soapy section). Also, at Malio, is the 350K gilrs who provide body-body oil massage?

Thanks for your reply.

[QUOTE=Playboy2001; 1122051]Smoothy,

At what time Oasis closes (soapy section). Also, at Malio, is the 350K gilrs who provide body-body oil massage?

Thanks for your reply.[/QUOTE]OK, I got the info. Soapy (Oasis) is open until 11. 30 PM

I'm not sure what time Oasis closes, I always go in the afternoon.

Yes, it's the 350k girls who give the body / body massage. But only some of them do it. The mamasan will tell you which ones. Normally the "stunners" do not do it, but there are plenty of nice looking ones who do.

Just come back from jaGatal.

The King Cross is expensive than hotel travel and stadium. They charge 150k++ for st rooms, the girls have several price. 300k. 400k etc. Overall the environment, show and music is good.

Oasis Spa not worth it, the girl quality is bad, and the body massage is not included sex. 80k for spa facility. 160k massage. 360k body massage, near Astika Hotel.

Classic Hotel is a must try if you want a threesome for 400k only, many girls and big place, but very crowded. Just go to the 2nd floor, Terminal Club. Sometime there is some extra charges like condoms and cigarette.

Stadium disco on 4th floor is too dark, and I agree the music sucks. Better go to the 3rd floor, lounge with live music, mamasan will come to you. Beside it is the ST room and counter, you can request the mamasan to parade the girls for you to choose if you come in a group. I saw some japanese do that.

[QUOTE=Sir Lancelot; 1121961]So what time is it best to visit Berlain, Kartika and Hotel Travel, how many girls approximately will there be and which has the prettiest? I will visit them all, I just want to make sure I get the optimum experience (which of course I will write about on here, with photos).

Also can you tell me more about Malioboro? Despite the fact I read 50+ pages on this thread alone, I only once made notes about Malioboro. Then again, it's quite possible I might have missed reports since there was a lot of info to try to take in. Similar set-up to Hotel Travel, with a large lounge and lots of girls to pick from?

Smoothy. I haven't heard of Oasis. Where is that?[/QUOTE]Stay at the Astika Hotel or Peninsula Hotel in mangga besar, these place is all near by.

Berlian and Kartika is very run down place. Turn left when you come out from the hotel above, after 10min walk reach the t-junction, then turn left again, you'll see the Berlian Kartika at your left within 3min. It is inside a small alley. Go further, you'll see the starbucks, domino, turn left again before the starbucks, domino, you are at the Stadium now, have fun. The stadium lounge start around 5:30pm, disco start at 10pm.

Oasis Spa is almost next to the peninsula hotel, mangga besar. Not recommend, unless you plan to spend 600+ for a soapie. The body massage is not including sex, you pay extra for sex. Minimum expenses is 80k for the spa facility. 160k for traditional massage. 360k for body massage. Most soapie girl is 25+. The ground floor is jaguzzi and sauna, go up 1 floor to choose the girl. The soapie girl sit at the front row sofa, wearing blue shirt, have about 12 girls. Traditional massage girl is better looking. They have some show start from 6:30.

I didn't go inside the Mille's Lokasari and Millenium Gajah Mada even it is near by. Is it same as the stadium with mamasam or freelance place like blok-m. The stadium mamasan want to charge 1M+ for overnight.

I'm looking for freelance place with 500-600k for overnight near the mangga besar. Any info will be very appreciate.

Thank you.

I strongly suggest that if you're going to sell an Indonesian sex tourism guide that you get the girls to sign a model release form. I don't know what the laws are in Indonesia with regards to this sort of thing but in North America the situation is that if you are taking someone's picture and then use it in a commercial undertaking you are supposed to inform them of that and they may be entitled to recompense.

In the case of Indonesia, the consequences of you taking a girl's picture and identifying her as a hooker may be far-reaching and fatal.

As for selling a guide, I just think that it's a bit contrary to the ethos of this forum which is for people to freely help one another out. That's just me.

[QUOTE=Sir Lancelot; 1120897]Yeah, that's right. Thommo decided that he wanted his site to be just his own words which is completely understandable. My Philippines diary was initially posted on his site (am I allowed to post a link?) but he recommended that I start up my own site, which is exactly what I did. Although it has my diaries from Thailand / Phils, the main bit of the site is the 'Secret Diaries of a Sex Tourist' weekly blog. Have you been reading? Sometimes it feels like I'm talking to myself on there.

I don't think I'm allowed to post a link. I personally don't regard my site as competition to this forum. Indeed, I even posted huge chunks of my Philippines diary (including photos) in the Philippines thread.

Danibbler, here's what Thommo said:

"I expect in time, Sir Lance, a former journalist, to become an internet front runner on the subject of sex tourism. Stick with him, for I believe in the not too distant future he is about to take off and plunder yet again the Maidens of the Far East and report in graphic detail. Oh to be young again. Thommo."

And that's why I'm on this forum now, researching my next trip. I'll be in Indonesia in three weeks time, writing my next 'secret diary'. I wanted to go somewhere new and exciting. That is why I posted below, to find information about the must-see places I have read about on this very forum. If you can help answer any of my questions, I'd be extremely grateful.

Regards,

Sir Lancelot. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Malibu21; 1122293]The King Cross is expensive than hotel travel and stadium. They charge 150k++ for st rooms, the girls have several price. 300k. 400k etc. Overall the environment, show and music is good.

Oasis Spa not worth it, the girl quality is bad, and the body massage is not included sex. 80k for spa facility. 160k massage. 360k body massage, near Astika Hotel. [/QUOTE]King's Cross is more like a Malioboro type of place in my opinion. I think KC and Malio are nicer than Hotel Travel and Stadium so I don't mind paying a little extra.

You are right that Oasis is more expensive than Kartika or Berlian. It's not really the same type of experience though given that you can relax in the spa downstairs first. There are not "many" real cuties working at Oasis, but there are a few young and cute ones (in high demand so they are busy and may need to be booked by telephone in advance) , however, I find that there are no cuties at all working at Kartika or Berlian. I'd actually forgotten that the sex wasn't included in the massage price at Oasis. But that is 100% the case and depending on the girl you get, the negotiations can be a pain. I've always paid the extra for the sex there but the girl was so cute I didn't mind. I find that to even get a nice girl, you have to hang out in the lounge area for a while to see if you can happen upon a cute one in between rounds. The ugly ones will always be sitting on the couch there, but the cute ones will only be seen for a few minutes in between customers. I do agree that Oasis "is not worth it" if you are looking for value for your sex dollar. Soapies in Jakarta are rare to find and they are horrible value in comparison to Thailand. If you want bang for your buck with a nice girl, getting a soapy is one of the worst options in Jakarta.

Thanks to all for the valuable intel on KC, Mal, Oasis, HT, etc. I usually limit my hunting to Blok M (Jalan Paletehan). My only visits to the "spas" were to Alexis early last year and Total Country more than 10 years ago. I strongly prefer to stay in South Jakarta now, so I just don't venture up north much. But I'm thinking about doing that on Sunday. Tuesday nights when I return, as Top Gun and My Bar are quite slow on those nights. I'm assuming these places are still "well-stocked" on Sundays and Mondays? Hope so. My Alexis experience was great, but I don't think it is great value for the money compared to other places. One time last year I had a 12 noon checkout in my south Jakarta hotel and a 10PM flight to Seoul, and I found Alexis to be much better hangout than any VIP lounge at the airport.

[QUOTE=Smoothy; 1122495]King's Cross is more like a Malioboro type of place in my opinion. I think KC and Malio are nicer than Hotel Travel and Stadium so I don't mind paying a little extra.

You are right that Oasis is more expensive than Kartika or Berlian. It's not really the same type of experience though given that you can relax in the spa downstairs first. There are not "many" real cuties working at Oasis, but there are a few young and cute ones (in high demand so they are busy and may need to be booked by telephone in advance) , however, I find that there are no cuties at all working at Kartika or Berlian. I'd actually forgotten that the sex wasn't included in the massage price at Oasis. But that is 100% the case and depending on the girl you get, the negotiations can be a pain. I've always paid the extra for the sex there but the girl was so cute I didn't mind. I find that to even get a nice girl, you have to hang out in the lounge area for a while to see if you can happen upon a cute one in between rounds. The ugly ones will always be sitting on the couch there, but the cute ones will only be seen for a few minutes in between customers. I do agree that Oasis "is not worth it" if you are looking for value for your sex dollar. Soapies in Jakarta are rare to find and they are horrible value in comparison to Thailand. If you want bang for your buck with a nice girl, getting a soapy is one of the worst options in Jakarta.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=John Marigold99;1122825]Thanks to all for the valuable intel on KC, Mal, Oasis, HT, etc. I usually limit my hunting to Blok M (Jalan Paletehan). My only visits to the "spas" were to Alexis early last year and Total Country more than 10 years ago. I strongly prefer to stay in South Jakarta now, so I just don't venture up north much. But I'm thinking about doing that on Sunday. Tuesday nights when I return, as Top Gun and My Bar are quite slow on those nights. I'm assuming these places are still "well-stocked" on Sundays and Mondays? Hope so. My Alexis experience was great, but I don't think it is great value for the money compared to other places. One time last year I had a 12 noon checkout in my south Jakarta hotel and a 10PM flight to Seoul, and I found Alexis to be much better hangout than any VIP lounge at the airport.[/QUOTE]Try King's Cross or MTR2 at Kelapa Gading.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1123107]Try King's Cross or MTR2 at Kelapa Gading.[/QUOTE]Is MTR2 an acronym or is it actually the name of the place? I did a search of the thread and came up with 11 hits, but all refer to it as MTR2 (not surprising given that I typed in MTR2 to do the search). Any help would be appreciated. I will certainly post on any mongering activities I enjoy there.

I went up to Kelapa Gading last March to meet a young (early 20s) girl that I had met on DIA. We met at one of the malls there where she worked, but quickly went to another closeby mall (probably because she had a bf and didn't want to be seen with me there). Both malls were nice and I liked the area. After enjoying a bite to eat, we headed off to my hotel (Atlet) and decided to hang out for awhile before going to CJs. So we watched a movie. Before long, we were making out and had an incredible time making love together. She has one of the prettiest faces I have ever seen in Jakarta and a great petite build. After making love, we showered and went to CJs and danced and got totally drunk before going back to my hotel for the night. Because she had a bf, I never followed up with her. My loss. She is married now (to her bf) and living somewhere in Europe. Lucky guy.

I've been cruising thru DIA and was curious if anyone has some war stories on Rena Ayu (Nice Tits) and Sera Wati (Gorgeous)? I don't want to join just in case the wife or the girlfriend find out. And I couldn't be fuc*ed with the lying and deception as I always tell all the girls I meet face to face that I'm married and have a girlfriend. I may be a scumbag but at least I'm not a lying scumbag. Hehehehe, anyway if anyone has anything on these two honeys please share.

[QUOTE=John Marigold99;1123352]Is MTR2 an acronym or is it actually the name of the place? I did a search of the thread and came up with 11 hits, but all refer to it as MTR2 (not surprising given that I typed in MTR2 to do the search). Any help would be appreciated. I will certainly post on any mongering activities I enjoy there.[/QUOTE]The first MTR is at Pangeran Jayakarta. The former name of it was Mutiara.

[QUOTE=KangK;1123487]I've been cruising thru DIA and was curious if anyone has some war stories on Rena Ayu (Nice Tits) and Sera Wati (Gorgeous)? I don't want to join just in case the wife or the girlfriend find out. And I couldn't be fuc*ed with the lying and deception as I always tell all the girls I meet face to face that I'm married and have a girlfriend. I may be a scumbag but at least I'm not a lying scumbag. Hehehehe, anyway if anyone has anything on these two honeys please share.[/QUOTE]Haven't met either of them, tried to get contact details from one but no response. I suspect they get a lot of messages.

I also always tell them that I am married, my profile on DIA says I'm married and I have no pictures there. I always refuse to send pics when they ask for them. Sorts out the husband hunters from the fun lovers.

[QUOTE=Danibbler; 1122385]I strongly suggest that if you're going to sell an Indonesian sex tourism guide that you get the girls to sign a model release form. I don't know what the laws are in Indonesia with regards to this sort of thing but in North America the situation is that if you are taking someone's picture and then use it in a commercial undertaking you are supposed to inform them of that and they may be entitled to recompense.

In the case of Indonesia, the consequences of you taking a girl's picture and identifying her as a hooker may be far-reaching and fatal.

As for selling a guide, I just think that it's a bit contrary to the ethos of this forum which is for people to freely help one another out. That's just me.[/QUOTE]I understand the point you make. The truth is that I only charge a fee for my diaries so that the girls contained within remain anonymous to the casual visitor (I hardly make any money). It's similar to this forum. There are thousands of pictures of girls but they are hidden away only to be seen by those who pay a subscription. It's my experience that girls are wary of the internet in case it reveals to their friends / family that they're hookers, so if a cost / subscription is introduced, it means that the photos only get seen by mongers.

In terms of sharing information and the 'ethos of the forum', again, I take your point. However, I would like to point out that I posted 8 HUGE field reports following my trip to Philippines last year and my 'Secret Diaries' blog contains lots of free information.

Malibu21.

KangK.

Smoothy.

Mighty Spearsman.

Thank you for your help about the massage parlours. I plan to be in Jakarta for about a week and will stay in Kota area, possibly Mercure Hotel. Absolute certainties to visit are Hotel Travel and Classic Hotel for the 3some. I will also pop my head in to Oasis, Kartika and Berlain. Then there are other places like Red Square, Malioboro and Stadium that sound interesting, that I will visit if I have time. It's my understanding that 4pm. 6pm is the time to visit the massage parlours. At night I will sample the delights of Blok M and some of the discos.

Does this sound a reasonable itinerary? Are there any glaring omissions?

I also have a few more questions:

- What type of setup is Malioboro? I've heard it mentioned as a good option but despite searching the last 50 pages on this page, I can't find too many details.

- I read somewhere that "Kota Indah in Jakarta is gold star in terms of quality of girls". I think it was from another website but I haven't read anything about it on this forum. Is it out-of-date information?

- If you had to choose your favourite place in Kota to pick up girls at night-time (say, after 9pm) where would it be?

Once again, thanks for your help and I will certainly post a report.

[QUOTE=KangK;1123487]I've been cruising thru DIA and was curious if anyone has some war stories on Rena Ayu (Nice Tits) and Sera Wati (Gorgeous)? I don't want to join just in case the wife or the girlfriend find out. And I couldn't be fuc*ed with the lying and deception as I always tell all the girls I meet face to face that I'm married and have a girlfriend. I may be a scumbag but at least I'm not a lying scumbag. Hehehehe, anyway if anyone has anything on these two honeys please share.[/QUOTE]I always tell the girls the truth. It makes for a much simpler time. If they still agree to proceed, you both know where you stand. However, this doesn't mean they won't end up investing their emotions. It's happened to me a few times before. I'm not sure how your wife will find out - unless you are careless and leave your computer on. I register under a pseudonym (as do half the girls anyway) have a separate email and yahoo messenger under my alter ego. So a search under my name will not garner any results. I also surf these sites and ISG using the Google Chrome incognito window so there's no history or cookies stored. Better to be safe and keep the computer clean.

Are you an Indonesian resident? Incidentally, I gather you must be able to travel quite extensively as the first girl is in Jakarta and the second is in Semarang. That's quite some distance between the two places. But then again I note your range of conquests and remain in envy of the girl in the bikini and the sister in Pelabuhan Ratu.

MD II

MD2, I haven't had any pleasure with those 2 girls from DIA but was merely asking has anyone had any dates with them as I'm a tit and ankle guy and Rena Ayu's tits look pretty inviting whereas Sera Wati just looked absolutely gorgeous. I actually went thru the motions and joined up to DIA with the main purpose on fronting RA but when I was filling in my profile I decided not to as I'm like you, you tell the girls the truth that way they know exactly where you stand and if they proceed you know exactly where they stand. With your wife finding out is pretty easy especially when our dial is plastered up on DIA and the wives have friends who may be a member to DIA. I've worked extensively throughout Indo and not planning on going anywhere else as it is as good as it gets. I'm totally biased as I love the diversity of Indo women especially Sundanese women. Anyway on my next R&R I have my hot 21 yr old GF with the second best set of tits I have ever been gangster slapped with to hang out with and have arranged to meet this other hot regular of mine from Bogor. Tall slender hot 18 yr old Sunda girl with extra hard firm tits and great BBBJCIM's. Not camera shy either so hopefully will have some more photos to come next month.

First went to HT (Hotel Travel) for a late afternoon session. It was hard as hell to find, I just assumed every taxi drive should know such a place but it's not so. Searched and couldn't find the address in the forum so here it is.

Address: Jl. Mangga Besar VIII / 21.

Phone: 021-6012721.

The entrance for spa or whatever the place with the girls is to the left of the main hotel entrance.

For those not familiar it's a large lounge where you can eat, drink, have the company of a girl, and take her to a room for shag.

There was at least 30 girls available but IMHO they were not the greatest looking. Something like pudgy brown little oompa loompas. A few looked younger and cuter though.

I took a girl. They required payment in advance, no chance for later. It was 300k for an hour including the room.

Ream was clean and decent.

The girls I took while really cute ended up being incredibly annoying. Beyond the constant yammering that I couldn't understand she kept trying to put on the condom after 5 seconds of sucking. After about 15 minutes I was greatly annoyed and kicked her out and fetched managment. They offered that I could keep the room but would need to pay 150k for a new girl. Good enough. New girl was slightly less attractive but 1000% more enthusiastic. Finished in her mouth. I appreciate the customer service from management. Pretty good and patient by skeezy brothel standards.

A few nights later to CJs club in Hotel Mulia.

Girls here were better looking on average than at HT and a few really attractive ones but in general still not great.

A few oompa loompas approached me but I had 0 interest. I approached a few of the more attractive girls but basically got the brush off from all of them. Towards the end of the night (30 min before closing) I spotted a new one. Conversation was nice and friendly. But. She wanted one million (good enough, I'm horny and it's late) and. Wasn't even willing to stay 3 hours. Her exact words were 'you finish and then I go'.

So I went home alone.

Not the best introduction to mongering in the Jakarta. I just didn't see alot of great looking girls.

BTW, Bluebird group taxi's are great. Always ran the meter. Never any hassle. Every other type of cab I tried was terrible.

[quote=sir lancelot; 1123691]malibu21.

kangk.

smoothy.

mighty spearsman.

thank you for your help about the massage parlours. i plan to be in jakarta for about a week and will stay in kota area, possibly mercure hotel. absolute certainties to visit are hotel travel and classic hotel for the 3some. i will also pop my head in to oasis, kartika and berlain. then there are other places like red square, malioboro and stadium that sound interesting, that i will visit if i have time. it's my understanding that 4pm. 6pm is the time to visit the massage parlours. at night i will sample the delights of blok m and some of the discos.

does this sound a reasonable itinerary? are there any glaring omissions?

i also have a few more questions:

- what type of setup is malioboro? i've heard it mentioned as a good option but despite searching the last 50 pages on this page, i can't find too many details.

- i read somewhere that "kota indah in jakarta is gold star in terms of quality of girls". i think it was from another website but i haven't read anything about it on this forum. is it out-of-date information?

- if you had to choose your favourite place in kota to pick up girls at night-time (say, after 9pm) where would it be?

once again, thanks for your help and i will certainly post a report. [/quote]sl, you can start off at kota indah around 14. 00 and its easier to go to lokasari shopping centre jl mangga besar, which is just near ht and oasis then jump on a ojek (motorbike) to kota indah 10, 000rp. there are 4 main wh's mtr, royal, sari ayu and la. these are mainly fishbowls but well worth it as i've scored some absolute honeys there. watch out for mtr as i was date raped there by some chick who was trained up by some fat american guy who works in singapore and frequents the place. i'm always doing it to the girls myself so i sensed it as karma! hehehehe

Hey guys.

Finaly I can contribute something useful, hehehe.

Don't know about Sera Wati. The pic of Rena Ayu is fake. Not really fake, but it's an indonesian artist.

Behind this profile are about 6 Malioboro girls, each logging in with this profile, trying to make some extra income.

I got 2 mails from her (them).

I kept asking and after about 5 more email, she (they) told (wrote) the story.

Et voila, case closed.

DIA = Dis Is Awesome.

[QUOTE=KangK;1123487]I've been cruising thru DIA and was curious if anyone has some war stories on Rena Ayu (Nice Tits) and Sera Wati (Gorgeous)? I don't want to join just in case the wife or the girlfriend find out. And I couldn't be fuc*ed with the lying and deception as I always tell all the girls I meet face to face that I'm married and have a girlfriend. I may be a scumbag but at least I'm not a lying scumbag. Hehehehe, anyway if anyone has anything on these two honeys please share.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sir Lancelot; 1123691]Malibu21.

KangK.

Smoothy.

Mighty Spearsman.

Thank you for your help about the massage parlours. I plan to be in Jakarta for about a week and will stay in Kota area, possibly Mercure Hotel. Absolute certainties to visit are Hotel Travel and Classic Hotel for the 3some. I will also pop my head in to Oasis, Kartika and Berlain. Then there are other places like Red Square, Malioboro and Stadium that sound interesting, that I will visit if I have time. It's my understanding that 4pm. 6pm is the time to visit the massage parlours. At night I will sample the delights of Blok M and some of the discos.

Does this sound a reasonable itinerary? Are there any glaring omissions?

I also have a few more questions:

- What type of setup is Malioboro? I've heard it mentioned as a good option but despite searching the last 50 pages on this page, I can't find too many details.

- I read somewhere that "Kota Indah in Jakarta is gold star in terms of quality of girls". I think it was from another website but I haven't read anything about it on this forum. Is it out-of-date information?

- If you had to choose your favourite place in Kota to pick up girls at night-time (say, after 9pm) where would it be?

Once again, thanks for your help and I will certainly post a report.[/QUOTE]Try the Millie's Disco at Lokasari, it is at the back of your hotel, a 10 min walk, near the 24 hours McDonald.

The Millenium Disco at Gajah Mada, further down after stadium.

I miss the opportunity to visit these place, write a report when you come back.

I think Kota Indah is lousy version of stadium which visit by local, but I never been there.

The malioboro is high class spa type place like alexis, with sauna jaguzzi lounge. If my memory serve me right, the cheapest is 3XXk, then 8XXk. 1. XxM++, very expensive place. Above 1M is import stock from China, russia, korean. I'm not sure.

Hey Sabbath, thanks for the info as I don't feel so bad now and I bet there is a bit more of that same thing going on.

Another one there is christy69 which I'm positive I used to see at Top Gun all the time and who is / was married to an Expat. I'm sure its her as my mate boned her one night because she looked like his wife.

[QUOTE=Sir Lancelot;1123691]If you had to choose your favourite place in Kota to pick up girls at night-time (say, after 9pm) where would it be?[/QUOTE]I like Golden Crown. It's a stadium type of environment but without the short time rooms upstairs like in Stadium. But I find the local girls nicer and more naive than the Stadium chicks. They also have the topless dancers every couple of hours so that's nice as well. The main drawback for the place is the pain in the butt getting a decent taxi out of there. And it helps to speak bahasa there.

I heard in Malioboro they conduct a HIV test to the girls twice a year. Does anyone know about this for a fact?

I had a girl from malioboro frustated cause I could not ejaculate with condom on and she took it out and I'm done within 2 minutes. I am uncircumsized and I kinda freaking out a little right now about HIV.

Anyone here did HIV test after unprotected?

Christy 69 is real.)

Pretends to be a "good girl", no tax (I) money.

Don't think I've ever seen her in blok m. On the other hand when I visited blok m, my eyes were all on menteng, hehehe.

Bless up.

[QUOTE=KangK; 1124080]Hey Sabbath, thanks for the info as I don't feel so bad now and I bet there is a bit more of that same thing going on.

Another one there is christy69 which I'm positive I used to see at Top Gun all the time and who is / was married to an Expat. I'm sure its her as my mate boned her one night because she looked like his wife. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Master Diver II; 1123696]I always tell the girls the truth. It makes for a much simpler time. If they still agree to proceed, you both know where you stand. However, this doesn't mean they won't end up investing their emotions. It's happened to me a few times before. I'm not sure how your wife will find out. Unless you are careless and leave your computer on. I register under a pseudonym (as do half the girls anyway) have a separate email and yahoo messenger under my alter ego. So a search under my name will not garner any results. I also surf these sites and ISG using the Google Chrome incognito window so there's no history or cookies stored. Better to be safe and keep the computer clean.

MD II[/QUOTE]When I first saw the message to which you replied, I was going to state exactly what you wrote. False name, false email, different and false name on YM, only thing real is the pic. Never leave business cards in the room, TV on a non intro channel (so they don't see the intro screen that has name on) , hide baggage tags that may have business cards inserted.

Guess we all play the same game. I love it when I see a repeat girl and she calls me by my totally made up name. And I'm thinking whos he? Ooops thats ME!

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1124110]I like Golden Crown. It's a stadium type of environment but without the short time rooms upstairs like in Stadium. But I find the local girls nicer and more naive than the Stadium chicks. They also have the topless dancers every couple of hours so that's nice as well. The main drawback for the place is the pain in the butt getting a decent taxi out of there. And it helps to speak bahasa there.[/QUOTE]I heard this is a very good place too, too bad I don't have much time to check it.

So this one is a freelance place without any mamasan?

No mamasan there.

[QUOTE=Malibu21; 1124005]Try the Millie's Disco at Lokasari, it is at the back of your hotel, a 10 min walk, near the 24 hours McDonald.

The Millenium Disco at Gajah Mada, further down after stadium.

I miss the opportunity to visit these place, write a report when you come back.

I think Kota Indah is lousy version of stadium which visit by local, but I never been there.

The malioboro is high class spa type place like alexis, with sauna jaguzzi lounge. If my memory serve me right, the cheapest is 3XXk, then 8XXk. 1. XxM++, very expensive place. Above 1M is import stock from China, russia, korean. I'm not sure. [/QUOTE]Malioboro definitely is not up to par for presentation if we are comparing it with Alexis. I never tried the stocks in Malioboro. I will do that next visit maybe.

My information is not up to date. Last visit was over a year ago. Seniors with more information please update.

For Alexis, it has entry fee of Rp 140, 000. 00 paid after you are done. They will give you a locker key upon entry.

I will skip the luxurious looking bath, nice sandals, trunks and towels + pajama thats given with excellent service.

You walk to the main lounge, you will be approached by one of the managers. Have a seat and tell what you want.

Last time I checked, Indonesian girls (All pricing include room) go for Rp 800, 000. 00. Thailand has Normal Division, goes for Rp 1, 500, 000 and Model Division that apparently appears on Magazines Rp 1, 800, 000. 00. Chinese girls go for Rp 1, 800, 000 and Korean girls Rp 2, 100, 000. I forgot whether korean girl's price include the room or not. Please correct me. There were some Russians around. The good ones were picked out and the monstrous ones were left. I did not bother to inquire the price.

Well. After you picked your girl, go for the hot pool for a soak. The girl of your pick will follow soon in their bikini. I was indecisive and the manager asked the girl of my pick to strip out of her Pajama to show off her body. I was sold for a Thai model. Half hour of 'massage' thats pretty much flirting introduction, you are up for the room for one and half hour. You are through, feel free to soak again until you are ready to get out.

I did not order any drink then. But trust its going to be expensive. I hope this helps. Have fun!

[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1124259]When I first saw the message to which you replied, I was going to state exactly what you wrote. False name, false email, different and false name on YM, only thing real is the pic. Never leave business cards in the room, TV on a non intro channel (so they don't see the intro screen that has name on) , hide baggage tags that may have business cards inserted.

Guess we all play the same game. I love it when I see a repeat girl and she calls me by my totally made up name. And I'm thinking whos he? Ooops thats ME! [/QUOTE]Hahahahahaha. So true, so true. Most know me by my pseudonym although some who have become friends do actually know my name. Where are you now after leaving Malaysia? I do the same thing business cards in the room safe, everything kept away except for a small amount of cash for taxi money. And with most of the girls it really is taxi money or not at all (especially if they drove or had a chauffeur).

MD II

[QUOTE=Sir Lancelot; 1123691]Malibu21.

KangK.

Smoothy.

Mighty Spearsman.

Thank you for your help about the massage parlours. I plan to be in Jakarta for about a week and will stay in Kota area, possibly Mercure Hotel. Absolute certainties to visit are Hotel Travel and Classic Hotel for the 3some. I will also pop my head in to Oasis, Kartika and Berlain. Then there are other places like Red Square, Malioboro and Stadium that sound interesting, that I will visit if I have time. It's my understanding that 4pm. 6pm is the time to visit the massage parlours. At night I will sample the delights of Blok M and some of the discos.

Does this sound a reasonable itinerary? Are there any glaring omissions?

I also have a few more questions:

- What type of setup is Malioboro? I've heard it mentioned as a good option but despite searching the last 50 pages on this page, I can't find too many details.

- I read somewhere that "Kota Indah in Jakarta is gold star in terms of quality of girls". I think it was from another website but I haven't read anything about it on this forum. Is it out-of-date information?

- If you had to choose your favourite place in Kota to pick up girls at night-time (say, after 9pm) where would it be?

Once again, thanks for your help and I will certainly post a report. [/QUOTE]I sincerely appreciate your "thank-you's" and your promise to post a report.

But then you go ahead and once again ask a lot of questions. While it's tempting to answer your latest set of questions, or at least to tell you to RTFF and read 2007 posts by me (and others) about Malioboro, the reality is that there comes a time when one has to stop asking questions and actually do something & post about it! You've received more than enough info as it is.

The reality is that Jakarta is filled with good places, with a variety of different types of places to visit, from high-end to medium-end to low-end to soap-places to night clubs to smaller pick-up bars. Every place has at least a few pretty girls working there, even places like Kartika. You just have to be there when they're available.

By the way, I've had good luck at Kartika as early as 1 pm and as late as 9 pm. Some girls work only the day shift (ask for Cindy) and others don't arrive at work until 5 pm. My favorite girl at Berlian, Inna, doesn't start until 3 pm, but there's some cute girls there as early as 12 Noon.

So, stop asking questions and go out and have some fun! Then write a report here about what happened to you.

[QUOTE=Valkyrie;1124612]Last time I checked, Indonesian girls (All pricing include room) go for Rp 800, 000. 00. Thailand has Normal Division, goes for Rp 1, 500, 000 and Model Division that apparently appears on Magazines Rp 1, 800, 000. 00. Chinese girls go for Rp 1, 800, 000 and Korean girls Rp 2, 100, 000.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure I get why they charge prices based only on where the girl comes from. Chinese girls are 1. 8 million? Some of those girls are really hot, and some are very mediocre. What they should do is charge based on how good looking the girl is. Some of those Chinese girls should be 1. 8 (not many of them) , but most should be less.

Does anyone know what time the 6th floor opens and closes? Does it open later on a Sunday?

Thanks in advance

That won't help you if she picked up something the day after the test. Sorry to add to your worries but I would suggest getting tested.

[QUOTE=ChipAndDales83; 1124162]I had a girl from malioboro frustated cause I could not ejaculate with condom on and she took it out and I'm done within 2 minutes. I am uncircumsized and I kinda freaking out a little right now about HIV.

Anyone here did HIV test after unprotected? [/QUOTE]

Wow, sorry to hear about the bad experience but thanks for the report.

First, yes, don't expect every taxi to know every spot. One visit to Classic had my Bluebird taxi driver asking if this was the right one? I was wondering if there was more than one?

Second, I was not too impressed with Hotel Travel either. I will write a report later. Too busy and too sick.

Third, am surprised at your experience with CJs but maybe the girls are not as hungry there? I had initially said that a million was way too much but have a look at the General Info thread for Indonesia and there is a recent post about pricing.

Was that your whole trip or is there more?

[QUOTE=Unirii; 1123856]First went to HT (Hotel Travel) for a late afternoon session. It was hard as hell to find, I just assumed every taxi drive should know such a place but it's not so. Searched and couldn't find the address in the forum so here it is.

The entrance for spa or whatever the place with the girls is to the left of the main hotel entrance.

For those not familiar it's a large lounge where you can eat, drink, have the company of a girl, and take her to a room for shag.

There was at least 30 girls available but IMHO they were not the greatest looking. Something like pudgy brown little oompa loompas. A few looked younger and cuter though.

I took a girl. They required payment in advance, no chance for later. It was 300k for an hour including the room.

Ream was clean and decent.

The girls I took while really cute ended up being incredibly annoying. Beyond the constant yammering that I couldn't understand she kept trying to put on the condom after 5 seconds of sucking. After about 15 minutes I was greatly annoyed and kicked her out and fetched managment. They offered that I could keep the room but would need to pay 150k for a new girl. Good enough. New girl was slightly less attractive but 1000% more enthusiastic. Finished in her mouth. I appreciate the customer service from management. Pretty good and patient by skeezy brothel standards.

A few nights later to CJs club in Hotel Mulia.

Girls here were better looking on average than at HT and a few really attractive ones but in general still not great.

A few oompa loompas approached me but I had 0 interest. I approached a few of the more attractive girls but basically got the brush off from all of them. Towards the end of the night (30 min before closing) I spotted a new one. Conversation was nice and friendly. But. She wanted one million (good enough, I'm horny and it's late) and. Wasn't even willing to stay 3 hours. Her exact words were 'you finish and then I go'.

So I went home alone.

Not the best introduction to mongering in the Jakarta. I just didn't see alot of great looking girls.

BTW, Bluebird group taxi's are great. Always ran the meter. Never any hassle. Every other type of cab I tried was terrible. [/QUOTE]

The point is you are taking their photos with the expectation that you will be making a profit (whether or not you do make a profit is irrelevant) and you cannot hide behind the idea that because there is a fee that only hardcore mongers will see the pics and not the girls themselves or people who know them. Who knows who's a monger. Let's face it, you're not going to put your face in the pics would you? Of course not, because you don't know who among your friends and family will recognize you.

You're in the UK, right? You better make sure that you are in the legal clear here because what I've realized is that the laws are much more strict the more "developed" a country becomes. I'm on an American forum and they're talking about pics being "private" or not depending on whether there is an expectation of privacy and whether or not you're on public or private property. Sheesh.

As for this site and the pics? Well, I am pretty sure that if one of the girls complained about their photo being up then this site will take it down. Have a look here:

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model_release[/url]

It pertains primarily to Americans but this site can be open to a suit if they even publish a photo without a model release. It's charging a fee for people to look at girls' pics and I am pretty sure that most of those girls don't know that their pics is going up on a site like this. Anyways, look it up. I am rambling because I am down with the flu.

[QUOTE=Sir Lancelot; 1123684]I understand the point you make. The truth is that I only charge a fee for my diaries so that the girls contained within remain anonymous to the casual visitor (I hardly make any money). It's similar to this forum. There are thousands of pictures of girls but they are hidden away only to be seen by those who pay a subscription. It's my experience that girls are wary of the internet in case it reveals to their friends / family that they're hookers, so if a cost / subscription is introduced, it means that the photos only get seen by mongers.

In terms of sharing information and the 'ethos of the forum', again, I take your point. However, I would like to point out that I posted 8 HUGE field reports following my trip to Philippines last year and my 'Secret Diaries' blog contains lots of free information. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1124972]I'm not sure I get why they charge prices based only on where the girl comes from. Chinese girls are 1. 8 million? Some of those girls are really hot, and some are very mediocre. What they should do is charge based on how good looking the girl is. Some of those Chinese girls should be 1. 8 (not many of them) , but most should be less.[/QUOTE]In a way it sort of makes sense. When you think about just goods, imported products are more expensive than local produces naturally. This logic is totally flawed. But grading girls is just as flawed in my opinion. This is actually pretty neutral choice. Beside, it is up to you to pick the hot ones, no matter where they come from. They parade the girls in front of you anyway.

Have fun.

[QUOTE=Valkyrie; 1125266]In a way it sort of makes sense. When you think about just goods, imported products are more expensive than local produces naturally. This logic is totally flawed. But grading girls is just as flawed in my opinion. This is actually pretty neutral choice. Beside, it is up to you to pick the hot ones, no matter where they come from. They parade the girls in front of you anyway.

Have fun[/QUOTE]Maybe not a good comparison: Imported goods are typically more expensive because of import tariffs imposed by the gov't which (supposedly) protect local producers and (usually) help gather a few more votes in the next election. I am assuming that bottles of wine in Indonesia are so damn expensive because of these tarriffs. (I made the mistake of ordering a glass of merlot of TopGun last month; it tasted like pure vinegar. But anyways, I don't think of TopGun as the kind of place to drink wine.) Imported goods may also be more expensive because of transportation costs. This could possibly be somewhat of a factor, but I doubt it. I think it goes back to simple supply and demand. There is a limited supply of foreign working girls (relative to indonesian working girls) and there must clearly be enough demand for them to warrant the higher price. For those of us bule who don't find the extra value in the foreign girl, we simply pay the lower price for the lovely indo girls. Econ 101 I think.

[QUOTE=John Marigold99;1125303]Econ 101 I think.[/QUOTE]If you're willing to explore some more advanced economic concepts, consider that in Indonesia, a low end high volume Indonesian hooker is probably what is known as a Giffen Good, and a foreign hooker at a place like Alexis would probably be known as a Veblen Good. These concepts are named for the economists who first identified them, as unusual products because they have positive price elasticity rather than the normal negative slope (I. E the consumption goes up as the price goes up, and consumption drops as the price drops). In the case of a Giffen Good, it's a low-end item where consumption increases as the price does due to a decreasing ability to afford better substitutes and a certain repulsiveness associated with doing the very cheapest hookers in any market, and in the case of a Veblen Good, it's a high end item where consumption increases as the price does due to greater status and prestige being attached to it and it's consumers because of it's known higher price.

[QUOTE=Member #2041;1125388]If you're willing to explore some more advanced economic concepts, consider that in Indonesia, a low end high volume Indonesian hooker is probably what is known as a Giffen Good, and a foreign hooker at a place like Alexis would probably be known as a Veblen Good. These concepts are named for the economists who first identified them, as unusual products because they have positive price elasticity rather than the normal negative slope (I. E the consumption goes up as the price goes up, and consumption drops as the price drops). In the case of a Giffen Good, it's a low-end item where consumption increases as the price does due to a decreasing ability to afford better substitutes and a certain repulsiveness associated with doing the very cheapest hookers in any market, and in the case of a Veblen Good, it's a high end item where consumption increases as the price does due to greater status and prestige being attached to it and it's consumers because of it's known higher price.[/QUOTE]I agree that a Veblen effect is entirely possible here. Maybe we can continue this conversation over a beer at Top Gun sometime.

Danibbler,

Firstly, get well soon. I'm struggling a bit with a heavy cold too. Looking forward to some sunny weather in Indonesia. Secondly, I take on board what you are saying. I work in an industry that uses model-release forms but in this instance, I don't think they are at all practical or indeed worth the paper they're printed on as most hookers I've met don't give their real names anyway.

I read the link that you provided as it's an issue that has given me plenty to think about in the past. One line that stands out is that "Liability rests solely with the publisher", so the example I gave earlier. About ISG making money from subscriptions, one the benefits of which is seeing lots of photos of girls (none of whom have signed a model release form). Is a similar position to mine.

I presume that legally I'd be safe because otherwise surely sights like youtube, who publish videos of gogo bars for example, or even wikipedia who use photos on prostitutes, would be legally threatened. I'm guessing their legal teams are pretty clued up.

I'd be really interested to hear Jackson's take on this in terms of the legal situation.

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman; 1124856]I sincerely appreciate your "thank-you's" and your promise to post a report.

But then you go ahead and once again ask a lot of questions. While it's tempting to answer your latest set of questions, or at least to tell you to RTFF and read 2007 posts by me (and others) about Malioboro, the reality is that there comes a time when one has to stop asking questions and actually do something & post about it! You've received more than enough info as it is.

The reality is that Jakarta is filled with good places, with a variety of different types of places to visit, from high-end to medium-end to low-end to soap-places to night clubs to smaller pick-up bars. Every place has at least a few pretty girls working there, even places like Kartika. You just have to be there when they're available.

By the way, I've had good luck at Kartika as early as 1 pm and as late as 9 pm. Some girls work only the day shift (ask for Cindy) and others don't arrive at work until 5 pm. My favorite girl at Berlian, Inna, doesn't start until 3 pm, but there's some cute girls there as early as 12 Noon.

So, stop asking questions and go out and have some fun! Then write a report here about what happened to you.[/QUOTE]Don't worry, I intend to go out and have some fun. I just need to make sure I'm clued up beforehand, hence the blitz of questions!

I assure you though, that I RTFFTSAEMEB (read the f*ing forum to such an extent my eyes bled) and as such the only questions I have asked are because I wasn't able to find the relevant answers on the forum. I went back over 50 pages in the jakarta section alone, making notes, although admittedly it's quite possible that in my trance-like state, I missed stuff on Mariobolo. And while there is a LOT of great information on this site (about the massage parlours for example) , not many reports say what time they visited, a really key bit of information.

So anyway, where is the best place to stay in Jakarta?

That was a joke BTW.

[QUOTE=John Marigold99;1125425]I agree that a Veblen effect is entirely possible here. Maybe we can continue this conversation over a beer at Top Gun sometime.[/QUOTE]I would love to, but alas, I am presently stuck in sex prison here in the USA.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1124972]I'm not sure I get why they charge prices based only on where the girl comes from. Chinese girls are 1. 8 million? Some of those girls are really hot, and some are very mediocre. What they should do is charge based on how good looking the girl is. Some of those Chinese girls should be 1. 8 (not many of them) , but most should be less.[/QUOTE]I went to a low-middle end place in Solo once that had a so-called "Chinese" girl working there. She might have had a grand-mother who was a local Chinese, but she was as dark as any Javanese. And butt ugly to boot. But she worked non-stop, queues outside her door. A local friend said that the local clientele just wanted to be able to say that they'd tried a Chinese girl.

Upon arrival at the airport, I notice they moved the immigration lines for foreigners to having to cue on the left of the walkway prior to arriving in the actual arrival hall. What a clusterfuck.

[QUOTE=Gonzo Two;1125606]I went to a low-middle end place in Solo once that had a so-called "Chinese" girl working there. She might have had a grand-mother who was a local Chinese, but she was as dark as any Javanese. And butt ugly to boot. But she worked non-stop, queues outside her door. A local friend said that the local clientele just wanted to be able to say that they'd tried a Chinese girl.[/QUOTE]Now. That would be just cruel joke. For Chinese I mentioned in Alexis, it is Chinese as Chinese from China. Speaks not a single word of English, most of them. And they have very distinctive Chinese feature that mixed blood will fail to mimic most of the time. Their skin colour would be so milky that it might as well shine a little LOL!

Tough luck on you. Good luck for next one.

Those Chinese girls are from China. That is so true. But some of them are really really hot and others are mediocre. I don't understand how they can expect to charge the same for all of those Chinese girls. By the way, the mamasan who peddles those girls is hot. I'd like to have an hour and 1/2 in one of those rooms with her sometime.

I would welcome the views of fellow members.

I am currently in Cambodia and have some Singapore Airline air miles to use up and am considering a visit to Jakarta as I have never been there before what do you all think?

Where is the best places to visit for our hobby?

How much on average would one expect to pay for all night?

Where would you suggest I stay.

If not Jakarta I am open to suggestions, I have worked in Cambodia, Vietnam and Thailand so am looking for somewhere different.

Thanks

Riverstar,

Suggest the South, near Blok-M. Gran Marakam is very nice but plenty of options at all price levels. Lots of info to be found on this thread. Enjoy!

NS.

[QUOTE=Riverstar; 1126022]I would welcome the views of fellow members.

I am currently in Cambodia and have some Singapore Airline air miles to use up and am considering a visit to Jakarta as I have never been there before what do you all think?

Where is the best places to visit for our hobby?

How much on average would one expect to pay for all night?

Where would you suggest I stay.

If not Jakarta I am open to suggestions, I have worked in Cambodia, Vietnam and Thailand so am looking for somewhere different.

Thanks[/QUOTE]

[quote=smoothy;1125863]upon arrival at the airport, i notice they moved the immigration lines for foreigners to having to cue on the left of the walkway prior to arriving in the actual arrival hall. what a clusterfuck.[/quote]smoothy, will have to disagree, the last few times i've gone through immigrations with the new system it went much quicker as you didn't have all of the tourist standing in the same lines. in the past those getting a visa on arrival needed to queue at the kiosk near the airside and then re-queue at the other immigration lines. now they purchase their visa on arrival and clear immigrations all at the same spot. from my experience this has speeded up the process. but then again maybe i was just lucky with my time of arrival.

[quote=mrbill1963;1126086]smoothy, will have to disagree, the last few times i've gone through immigrations with the new system it went much quicker as you didn't have all of the tourist standing in the same lines. in the past those getting a visa on arrival needed to queue at the kiosk near the airside and then re-queue at the other immigration lines. now they purchase their visa on arrival and clear immigrations all at the same spot. from my experience this has speeded up the process. but then again maybe i was just lucky with my time of arrival.[/quote]maybe just lucky. i was probably about person number 300 in the line. there were 3 lines open, but no organization. the distance between the immigration stand and the walkway allows about 15 people. people kept pushing in trying to get into one of the lines rather than creating one long cue and the next available being served. total clusterfuck. i've been coming to indonesia for 13 years and i've never had to wait so long. and i already have a work visa. i will say that if you are a permanent resident, it's better because you can go through the indonesian line in the main atrium as before. and it's also better for the people who are getting visa on arrival. but for those who already have a visa, the line was excrutiating. maybe i was just unlucky since i was taking the early morning sq flight from singapore and basically the entire flight was businessmen who already had visas.

I've always been a cheeky bastard and go to the Indonesian lines if the bule lines are too full even though I have a temporary resident visa much to the disdain of other bules. Always get hassled by a Indo official before I make it to the counter but he always lets me pass after he checks my visa.

Just a comment on the walk of shame that comes up from time to time.

The Intercontinental Hotel is located near the Meriden. It is not visible from the main road, and some of the older taxi drivers still think it is named Kampinsky. The hotel is 5-star just like the other big names in town, but it does not have a night club (it does have a quite nice massage spa, and those girls are willing to add the happy ending). The downside is that you have no choice but to go out, even if you'd rather just slide downstairs (like Meridien or Shangri-La.

The plus side is that it shuts down after 1-2am. The lights are off, the lobby is completely vacant, and even the night clerk is busy in the back room (busy sleeping, probably). Zero walk of shame. If she is leaving the next morning (hopefully she has a change of clothes) , no need to escort her down, as the doormen do not tend to hassle the girls. Most of them are young girls anyway.

It doesn't seem to be terribly secure like that, but the elevator will not run without a valid room key inserted.

[QUOTE=Sabbath; 1124237]Christy 69 is real.)

On the other hand when I visited blok m, my eyes were all on menteng, hehehe.

Bless up. [/QUOTE]Well. I do hope the other members will interprete this as: "I like to watch the way the girls treat Menteng". .

[QUOTE=Danibbler;1125114]First, yes, don't expect every taxi to know every spot. One visit to Classic had my Bluebird taxi driver asking if this was the right one? I was wondering if there was more than one?[/QUOTE]There is (was?) another Classic almost in front of the main entrance of Hotel Jayakarta in Kota. It is not a hotel though, but with a lot of girls inside.

[QUOTE=Playboy2001;1119608]Is TC open now?[/QUOTE]Last Saturday night I was in Locasari Plaza and I noticed that the stairs going to up to TC have been torn out and the club is now part of a large parking deck. Not a trace of the TC is remaining. Oh Well!

Sky Dog

[QUOTE=Riverstar; 1126022]I would welcome the views of fellow members.

Where is the best places to visit for our hobby?

How much on average would one expect to pay for all night?

Where would you suggest I stay.

Thanks[/QUOTE]This is my idea of a good time:

Visit Hotel Travel in the mid afternoon, pop, eat dinner and then head to Berlain for cheap soapy massage, pop, then about 11 pm hit the Blok M bars.

500k-600k IDR to a Blok M girl for all night.

Stay at Mercure Rekso Hayum Waruk in the Mangga Besar area. No problem to bring a girl back. It is a good place to stay, close to the MP scene.
There is a nice restaurant at the Jayakarta Hotel down the street, check it out for duck, century eggs, etc.
Any incidentals can be purchased at Glodok/Lindeteves Trade Center or the Lokasari Plaza nearby. It's convenient.

Have fun in JKT. -pp

[QUOTE=Sky Dog; 1126670]Last Saturday night I was in Locasari Plaza and I noticed that the stairs going to up to TC have been torn out and the club is now part of a large parking deck. Not a trace of the TC is remaining. Oh Well!

Sky Dog[/QUOTE]To Sky dog,

No one will miss that place at all its been going down hill anyway and Hotel travel is just around the corner.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=Sky Dog;1126670]Last Saturday night I was in Locasari Plaza and I noticed that the stairs going to up to TC have been torn out and the club is now part of a large parking deck.[/QUOTE]. Damn!

It will be missed.

I first went to TC's around '95 and stopped going there around 2 years ago as there were too many girls there my daughters age and also too dark and bloody noisy. End of an era but something else always pops up elsewhere.

[QUOTE=Dogboy1976; 1125026]Does anyone know what time the 6th floor opens and closes? Does it open later on a Sunday?

DB1976.

The Maribaya in Hotel Melawai 6th floor is open every day from 10 am Until about 1 in the morning. Shift change occurs at 5 pm Price is 450, 000 for 1 hour, all included. (+maybe 50, 000 tip). They are usually not very strict on the 1 hour time limit.

I was there last week, and the cewek told me they are soon to be closing down for renovations for a long time. Maybe call 1st to check if they are still open. Tel 021 739 7233.

Happy hunting.

P. S. Nice moniker!

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman; 1124856]I sincerely appreciate your "thank-you's" and your promise to post a report.

But then you go ahead and once again ask a lot of questions. While it's tempting to answer your latest set of questions, or at least to tell you to RTFF and read 2007 posts by me (and others) about Malioboro, the reality is that there comes a time when one has to stop asking questions and actually do something & post about it! You've received more than enough info as it is.

The reality is that Jakarta is filled with good places, with a variety of different types of places to visit, from high-end to medium-end to low-end to soap-places to night clubs to smaller pick-up bars. Every place has at least a few pretty girls working there, even places like Kartika. You just have to be there when they're available.

By the way, I've had good luck at Kartika as early as 1 pm and as late as 9 pm. Some girls work only the day shift (ask for Cindy) and others don't arrive at work until 5 pm. My favorite girl at Berlian, Inna, doesn't start until 3 pm, but there's some cute girls there as early as 12 Noon.

So, stop asking questions and go out and have some fun! Then write a report here about what happened to you. [/QUOTE]Last week in HT, mamasan told me they also have a 2 girl special: 2 girls for 1. 5 hours for 450, 000. I will try it out next time.

Thanks for the info Travelin Dog as I'm going on R&R next Friday so I will try it out when I'm back from my 10 day surfing, sailing, & diving trip. Its been a while since I've been to HT's and about time I spread my pocket full of personality around the traps.

[QUOTE=Travelin Dog;1127457]Last week in HT, mamasan told me they also have a 2 girl special: 2 girls for 1. 5 hours for 450, 000. I will try it out next time.[/QUOTE]Thanks for letting us know about this special. Life is good.

[QUOTE=Travelin Dog;1127457]2 girl special: 2 girls for 1. 5 hours for 450, 000.[/QUOTE]Indeed, thats a very good deal since I love to take 2 girls.

Greetings from Angeles City! .

Has anyone every ventured into the "Korean Massage" place near Fortune and Delta in Grand Wijaya complex? I think there are actually two right next to eachother, but one offers hair cuts and the like.

Anway, what is offered there? It looks kind of interesting.

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Puta Playa; 1126682]This is my idea of a good time:

Visit Hotel Travel in the mid afternoon, pop, eat dinner and then head to Berlain for cheap soapy massage, pop, then about 11 pm hit the Blok M bars.

500k-600k IDR to a Blok M girl for all night.

Stay at Mercure Rekso Hayum Waruk in the Mangga Besar area. No problem to bring a girl back. It is a good place to stay, close to the MP scene.

There is a nice restaurant at the Jayakarta Hotel down the street, check it out for duck, century eggs, etc.

Any incidentals can be purchased at Glodok / Lindeteves Trade Center or the Lokasari Plaza nearby. It's convenient.

Have fun in Jakarta..pp[/QUOTE]Good advice here except I would not hit up BlokM if you're staying in Kota area. Get the full experience and stick to the north area, you have places in Hayam wuruk, lokasari, gajah madah, etc.

[QUOTE=Travelin Dog;1127457]Last week in HT, mamasan told me they also have a 2 girl special: 2 girls for 1. 5 hours for 450, 000. I will try it out next time.[/QUOTE]At Classic I think it's 400, 000 for the 2 girl special. End of last year.

[QUOTE=Bbfs Hunter;1128160]Good advice here except I would not hit up BlokM if you're staying in Kota area. Get the full experience and stick to the north area, you have places in Hayam wuruk, lokasari, gajah madah, etc.[/QUOTE]I find Kota great for daytime mongering, hence my recommendation of the Mercure, but at night time I found little to do except Hotel Travel or Stadium. So at night, I hit Top Gun, D's, etc in Blok M. But it's a looong taxi ride when you bring a girl from the Blok to Mercure Rekso!

Can you recommend some places to party at night in Kota, other than HT and Stadium?

Puta Playa, While I've only been there once, Malioboro is in that general area and blew me away the one time I went there, with JAD around midnight. I'll be returning the next time I'm in Jakarta. I wrote a short description in the following,

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?965-Jakarta&p=1115339&viewfull=1#post1115339[/url]

Hey everyone! After reading all these amazing reports, Southeas Asia is definitely where I'm heading in 10 days. I just can't decide between Thailand, Philippines, and Idonesia. I've lived in Thailand and love it! I landed a non pro girlfriend right away though, and never experienced the P4P scene. I'm wondering in which country are the girls less inhibited, willing to do dirtier things. I'm for sure an Ass man, so which girls are more receptive to backdoor action? Philippine, Indonesian, or Thai women?

Thanks everyone!

Satyr

I would stay in hotel mulia there you have cjs and then you do not even have to go out you bring the girl directly from cjs up to your room. For me that was always the best place! And if you want to go other places you can always take a taxi!

I plan to bring my own big toys (a big vibrator eg rabbit vibrator) to have some fun when I come back to jakarta next time. I used to bring some small vibrator like bullet / egg size without any problem to most country. The problem is the size is too big and easy attract some custom guy to check it.

Anyone have some experience of bringing this big boy toys in.

[QUOTE=Puta Playa; 1129033]I find Kota great for daytime mongering, hence my recommendation of the Mercure, but at night time I found little to do except Hotel Travel or Stadium. So at night, I hit Top Gun, D's, etc in Blok M. But it's a looong taxi ride when you bring a girl from the Blok to Mercure Rekso!

Can you recommend some places to party at night in Kota, other than HT and Stadium? [/QUOTE]If you're not a budget monger, you got Malioboro, Millenium, Golden Crown, (MILLES! My favorite) , Sun City, etc.

Beyond that you've got streetwalkers in Hayam wuruk and lokasari. Also brothels in mangga besar and lokasari. Not to mention all the other places I've yet to explore beyond hayam wuruk and manga besar.

Of course, it all depends on your taste. BlokM will always be cheaper and more comfortable for foreigners due to the crowd and freelancers. No house tax and all that.

Forgive me fellow mongers for I have sinned. I paid 1 juta for a CJs girl. Granted it was long time, she stayed until 1pm the next day but still I should know better. My little head, her gorgeous figure, little impish smile and the vast quantity of beer consumed got the better of me.

For my penance I promise to get a Blok M girl soon any pay no more than 400k.

[QUOTE=Bbfs Hunter;1130313]Of course, it all depends on your taste. BlokM will always be cheaper and more comfortable for foreigners due to the crowd and freelancers. No house tax and all that.[/QUOTE]More comfortable for bules who don't speak any BI and are afraid to explore outside their comfort zones but by no stretch of the imagination could Blok M be described as "cheap".

The girls in Blok M charge approximately double what you'd pay in the Kota knocking shops and if those places aren't your scene then hook up with "ordinary" girls just looking to earn a little bit extra on the side, much fresher and more fun than the hardened pros of the Blok.

The hotels arond Blok M are much pricier too, you can get a transit room (six hour stay) in north or east Jakarta for less than 200k and the quality of room will be just the same as the cheapest option in Blok M, almost 500k in the Melawai if I'm not wrong.

[QUOTE=Malibu21; 1129533]I plan to bring my own big toys (a big vibrator eg rabbit vibrator) to have some fun when I come back to jakarta next time. I used to bring some small vibrator like bullet / egg size without any problem to most country. The problem is the size is too big and easy attract some custom guy to check it.

Anyone have some experience of bringing this big boy toys in.[/QUOTE]Have taken a 9inch (she requested it in black!)"toy" for a friend before. The guy asked me to open my bag and in one of those funny scenes I thought " Oh shit". No he just wanted to check that the tube of KY jelly wasnt bigger than 100mgs or whatever the liquid allowance.

But he did have a good root around the "bag" containing a few other smaller toys but didn't have anything to say except to check the KY jelly size.

So given the flight liquid restrictions these days, I assume one is better off separating the KY from the toys. Maybe but the toy inside a sock? Have been thinking about how to accomplish this myself.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1130595]Have taken a 9inch (she requested it in black!)"toy" for a friend before. The guy asked me to open my bag and in one of those funny scenes I thought " Oh shit". No he just wanted to check that the tube of KY jelly wasnt bigger than 100mgs or whatever the liquid allowance.

But he did have a good root around the "bag" containing a few other smaller toys but didn't have anything to say except to check the KY jelly size. [/QUOTE]They check liquid allowance AFTER the landing? I assume you flew in from abroad and they checked your cabin luggage before departure.

[QUOTE=Travelin Dog; 1127455]The Maribaya in Hotel Melawai 6th floor is open every day from 10 am Until about 1 in the morning. Shift change occurs at 5 pm Price is 450, 000 for 1 hour, all included. (+maybe 50, 000 tip). They are usually not very strict on the 1 hour time limit.

I was there last week, and the cewek told me they are soon to be closing down for renovations for a long time. Maybe call 1st to check if they are still open. Tel 021 739 7233. [/QUOTE]I had to chuckle at the hidden message in the girl's statement, as it will certainly take "a long time" to properly do renovations at this place! Heck, even the carpeting dates back to the Sukarno era, LOL.

Seriously, I'll miss this place, it was always nice to have this place as a mid-afternoon option if I was in the area. I'm curious as to where the girls will end up working.

[QUOTE=Sir Lancelot; 1125526]Don't worry, I intend to go out and have some fun. I just need to make sure I'm clued up beforehand, hence the blitz of questions!

I assure you though, that I RTFFTSAEMEB (read the f*ing forum to such an extent my eyes bled) and as such the only questions I have asked are because I wasn't able to find the relevant answers on the forum. I went back over 50 pages in the jakarta section alone, making notes, although admittedly it's quite possible that in my trance-like state, I missed stuff on Mariobolo. And while there is a LOT of great information on this site (about the massage parlours for example) , not many reports say what time they visited, a really key bit of information.

So anyway, where is the best place to stay in Jakarta?

That was a joke BTW. [/QUOTE]I will immodestly suggest that you do a search on my posts between 2006-08 in the Jakarta thread, as I wrote several extensive posts on virtually every interesting place in Jakarta (except Hotel Alexis, which I've never visited) from the high-end girls at Malioboro & Sumo Shiatsu to the lowest-end girls inside the Kali Jodo brothels and the 50, 000 rupiah street girls near one of the train stations. I also posted "summary reports" every 6 months or so. Other than the price info, and the names of some of the young providers who have since moved on to somewhere else, most of what I wrote still applies.

[QUOTE=Bbfs Hunter;1130310]Beyond that you've got streetwalkers in Hayam wuruk and lokasari. Also brothels in mangga besar and lokasari..[/QUOTE]Plan on Jakarta later this year. Just to clarify. Seems all like the Kota area for daytime activities. I'm familiar with local brothels in other countries where the brothels are very obvious. Always some pimps outside waving you in, is that the case here in places like mangga besar etc. Or does one need to know the exact address of the houses as they are more hidden?

Seem to have read somewhere prices for locals or those speaking the local language and able to negotiate pay about 100, 000r for a one shot deal here.

[QUOTE=Puta Playa;1126682]Stay at Mercure Rekso Hayum Waruk in the Mangga Besar area. No problem to bring a girl back. It is a good place to stay, close to the MP scene.[/QUOTE]Any other recommendations for hotels in this area besides the Mercure that are cheap in price and have ok rooms. Luxury not needed.

Seems alot on the Jakarta hotel thread deals with Blok M area and maybe the Hotel Blue Pacific would fit the bill at about $35 if I wanted to stay near Blok M. But trying to stay closer to Mercure hotel areas instead.

Could always go to Jalan Jaksa but heard this was not recommended area for our hobby even as the rooms maybe cheap.

Thanks.

PM me if you like.

FZ

[QUOTE=Freezone; 1131182]Any other recommendations for hotels in this area besides the Mercure that are cheap in price and have ok rooms. Luxury not needed.

Seems alot on the Jakarta hotel thread deals with Blok M area and maybe the Hotel Blue Pacific would fit the bill at about $35 if I wanted to stay near Blok M. But trying to stay closer to Mercure hotel areas instead.

Could always go to Jalan Jaksa but heard this was not recommended area for our hobby even as the rooms maybe cheap.

Thanks.

PM me if you like.

FZ[/QUOTE]If you have at least Starwood Gold status, The Sheraton is not bad. But I have heard that the regular rooms are nowhere near as well maintained as the SPG preferred rooms.

When I was on my way back home passing Arteri Pondok indah, I saw a new spa next to shell gas station. It's called The Magnolia Shiatsu & Sauna. I decided to drop by after looking at their giant ads for 50% off for all treatment. The first floor is the lounge. The interior is quite nice with comfy sofa, the good news they sell cheap beer for Rp. 18. 000 (U$1. 90). They sell food and snack like apple pie, brownies, danish, caldavos tart, cheesecake. I tasted caldavos tart and pies they are really tasty. I'd say the taste is close to the food sold by Starbuck's with only half the price of that Starbuck's.

Well let's move on to the fun part. Looking at their brochure, they provide all treatment from deep tissue massage, swedish massage, hot stone massage, herbal steam massage, body scrub to reflexology.

The price is starting from 58. 000 rupiahs ($5. 80) and the body massage is starting at 98. 000 rupiahs ($9. 80) for 90 minutes.

They open from 10. Am till 12 midnight.

Their phone # 7291182.

I haven't had a chance to try the treatment but I would give a try sometimes this week.

[QUOTE=Member #2041;1131213]If you have at least Starwood Gold status, The Sheraton is not bad. But I have heard that the regular rooms are nowhere near as well maintained as the SPG preferred rooms.[/QUOTE]Thank you and Jk after dark for the replies.

Truth is if I had any status with any programs and score a cheap room (maybe even a free one) I would'nt have even mention the possibility of staying at places in Jalan Jaksa area-ha ha,

Trying to be a cheapy with the hotels so have the extra money for fun instead, but also don't want to be staying all the way outside of everything. Ah, trying to find the right balances in life.

Cheers.

FZ

[QUOTE=Freezone; 1131940]Thank you and Jk after dark for the replies.

Truth is if I had any status with any programs and score a cheap room (maybe even a free one) I would'nt have even mention the possibility of staying at places in Jalan Jaksa area-ha ha,

Trying to be a cheapy with the hotels so have the extra money for fun instead, but also don't want to be staying all the way outside of everything. Ah, trying to find the right balances in life.

Cheers.

FZ[/QUOTE]Jl. Jaksa itself (not the mainstreets to and fro) is the cheapest. You might even bump into some chicks there. The best option however is I think hotel Olimpic and hotel Lokasari. Though TC has closed, there are still places within a five minutes walk or less from those hotels. Sierra, Madona, Bintang Mawar, Miles, Oasis spa, if they are still there, are next-door. You might even try your luck, hunting in the mall or on the premises of the Lokasari block.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1130595]Have taken a 9inch (she requested it in black!)"toy" for a friend before. The guy asked me to open my bag and in one of those funny scenes I thought " Oh shit". No he just wanted to check that the tube of KY jelly wasnt bigger than 100mgs or whatever the liquid allowance.

But he did have a good root around the "bag" containing a few other smaller toys but didn't have anything to say except to check the KY jelly size.[/QUOTE]I can't imagine what will happen if they try to test the big toys in front of all the people of airport.

It is worst than the "walk of shame".

Alexis: a classy establishment- no drunken louts making fools of themselves, no seedy pimps, no pushers, no track marks on arms, no menacing bouncers and the other "atmospherics" you associate with bordellos.

The SOP must have been explained a dozen times here but here goes: Walk into the lobby and head towards the lift which are behind the reception desk. There's a curved corridor leading you there and you need to head right ahead without standing there and let any staff make "best offers". Take the lift to the Spa on the 7th floor; you will be given a numbered wrist band with an RF I'd which lets you open / close the locker with the same number as your wrist band.

Next you head to a hall packed with mongers and groups of girls herded about by Mamasans. Every stag entry / group is approached by a mamasan who lists the choices. Indonesians, Indonesian Models, Thai, Thai Models, Chinese, Korean and Uzbek / Russians. Price (excluding room,"spa charges", tip etc) ranges from 0. 8M to 1. 9M. I was about to choose this tall Thai model (beautiful eyes, high cheek bones, dangerous curves) when I noticed this cutie-pie girl (early 20s) in the Indonesian lineup this Aussie was reviewing. Waited out with bated breath as I firmly believe in "Bros before H0es" rule. Luckily that guy picked up this buff eight foot tall buxom Indonesian lady and left me free to select my girl. Mamasan tells me her name is Ratna and asked me to wait at the pool after changing.

Adjacent to this hall there's a mirrored locker room with a whole platoon of uniformed staff who will assist you in any way. You have to find your locker, put your clothes and belongings (except maybe cellphones and wallets) in the locker and change into the bathrobes provided. Get into the pool and wait for the girl to join you. Yes, she'll be wearing a flimsy bikini. Mine wore that Phoebe Cates bikini from Fast Times at Ridgemont High. After a bit of frolicking in the pool you can towel yourselves dry, change into a fresh robe and head to your room. Relax, the girls knows the drill and the way around the labyrinths.

The room is 3-star: The interior decorations, fixtures, themes were pretty tastefully done. No wonder they charge a hefty price on this too. Anyway, first you had the mandatory shower and towel down and then we get to the main event. Now this girl was quite sweet, clean, energetic. Quite GFE. Lots of heavy petting and kissing. Maybe it's because we hit off right away or maybe she's got an oral thing. Anyway, I remember our tongues did way more work than our plumbing with lots of DFK. 69, BBBJ, DATY and catbath.

After the time is up you got to fill in a form (no kidding) and enter tip amount, wristband number and give feed back. I tipped the girl a 100K and yes, it's an affirmative to WIR.

PS: BTW my spidey senses tell me this girl kinda new to this line and still young-and-naive. So it might be worth your time if you DON'T take the wham-bang-thank-you-ma'am approach with her.

Is Jakarta an easy place to find motobike rentals and explore on my own or is it a place where everyone hails a taxi?

I always like the option of going around on my own and at my own pace.

FZ

[QUOTE=Tenth Legion; 1132663]Alexis: a classy establishment- no drunken louts making fools of themselves, no seedy pimps, no pushers, no track marks on arms, no menacing bouncers and the other "atmospherics" you associate with bordellos. [. ]

After the time is up you got to fill in a form (no kidding) and enter tip amount, wristband number and give feed back. [/QUOTE]I actually did find them rather pushy and snide at times. We left a couple of bags with reception, and they asked us something like 100K rupiah for the privilege when we came down. Our bill was several million rupiah for the two of us, so not gouging a bit extra for the bags would have been classy. Also the guys hanging around the entrance are pretty aggressive about getting a tip as you leave. And I don't appreciate getting a form with a field for a tip amount, to be filled out on the spot. What and whether I tip is up to me, especially after I just paid around 1M. As it happens, I have had better sessions with girls in Stadium and Travel, among other places, so I didn't feel eager to give a tip. In fact, my girl was hung-over and coughing, and chatting to her I learned that she spent the previous night at Stadium in the disco. I took the form and said I'd think about it and give it to the mamasan afterwards. The mamasan never dropped by, though we spent another two hours in the lounge area.

[QUOTE=Rocksoff;1132774]I actually did find them rather pushy and snide at times. ..... The mamasan never dropped by, though we spent another two hours in the lounge area.[/QUOTE]The heavies were quite courteous when I went last week. Maybe they got some complaints about the staff and the muscle running their own shows. The mamasans I dealt with had the air of an art dealer; I. E. Unlike your usual used-car-salesman mamasans. Maybe they take customer feedback very seriously.

Anyway, can you take home the ladies? I saw a couple of Japanese business men fill a whole van with the choicest WGs as I left the place. If that's an option there are a couple of stunners in the Thai lineup who are well worth a 2. 5M (extrapolated figure. No idea of takeout LT rate) LT session.

The girl I selected didn't have any idea of "fire and ice" service. Not even when I used the magic words "will give lot more tip, yes". Well, as I said I think she's new to this line. I guess you have to ask the mamasans on the services offered, eh?

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman; 1130992]I had to chuckle at the hidden message in the girl's statement, as it will certainly take "a long time" to properly do renovations at this place! Heck, even the carpeting dates back to the Sukarno era, LOL.

Seriously, I'll miss this place, it was always nice to have this place as a mid-afternoon option if I was in the area. I'm curious as to where the girls will end up working. [/QUOTE]I checked out Maribaya today. Still open and not closing until May or June according to the girls I spoke to. One of them will keep me updated by SMS if there is any change to that. New girl there today name of Dila. 19 years old, slim, nice body but a bit 'inexperienced' so as is my usual practice in this situation I take a double and make sure the other is an experienced girl who can give the 'newbie' some tutoring.

The girls are complaining about lack of customers. MS maybe your post about the place closing down has turned a few mongers away. Well there is still the odd gem there for a few more months at least so guys get back there.

Fot the last few weeks I can only access ISG through a proxy site while I'm in Indonesia.

I'm curious if others are having this problem generally or whether it is just the hotel I'm staying in that is block the site. Whatever, it is a pain in the neck because I also have to keep changing proxy sites because they are getting blocked as well.

(Alexis: a classy establishment- no drunken louts making fools of themselves, no seedy pimps, no pushers, no track marks on arms, no menacing bouncers and the other "atmospherics" you associate with bordellos.

The SOP must have been explained a dozen times here but here goes: Walk into the lobby and head towards the lift which are behind the reception desk. There's a curved corridor leading you there and you need to head right ahead without standing there and let any staff make "best offers". Take the lift to the Spa on the 7th floor; you will be given a numbered wrist band with an RF I'd which lets you open / close the locker with the same number as your wrist band.)

Better to do is open the locker with your wrist band put your clothes in te locker put on the grey shorts on and put on the green alexis bathcoat then put slip your feet in the blue slippers than you walk to the main hall were you can see the bar and front of them are the black sofa's where the lokals sit on the left on the right side the Chinese and far to the left the thai girls. Choose your girls go to the swimming pool do your girlf friend experience than go to the rooms downstairs you can choose normal with only a tv or deluxe suite with jacuzi and big tv and do you job haahahha

[QUOTE=Berguling Lagi;1132845]Whatever, it is a pain in the neck because I also have to keep changing proxy sites because they are getting blocked as well.[/QUOTE]Berguling lagi, I guess there will also be some other good unblocking software available, but have you tried UltraSurf? You can find it by typing it in Google. It is freeware and has good reviews. It allows you to overcome blockage and gives you some privacy in the form of anonymous surfing, cheers.

[QUOTE=Freezone; 1132743]Is Jakarta an easy place to find motobike rentals and explore on my own or is it a place where everyone hails a taxi?

I always like the option of going around on my own and at my own pace.

FZ[/QUOTE]Your best bet would jalan Jaksa. I remember a travel agency renting those.

[QUOTE=Menteng;1132918]Your best bet would jalan Jaksa. I remember a travel agency renting those.[/QUOTE]Ha, I had thought of avoiding staying here even though the room prices are cheapest but read somewhere it was not preferred because most P4P girls won't go back with you if you stayed here.

But if motobikes are available at JJ, then I may end up finding a room here as well.

FZ


BTW, has anyone ever stayed here before (Jalan Jaksa)?

[QUOTE=Berguling Lagi; 1132845]Fot the last few weeks I can only access ISG through a proxy site while I'm in Indonesia.

I'm curious if others are having this problem generally or whether it is just the hotel I'm staying in that is block the site. Whatever, it is a pain in the neck because I also have to keep changing proxy sites because they are getting blocked as well. [/QUOTE]Am in Africa and I find that many websites are blocked here. Would appreciate if you could help me in accessing proxy websites.

[QUOTE=John Aldrich;1133089]Am in Africa and I find that many websites are blocked here. Would appreciate if you could help me in accessing proxy websites.[/QUOTE]When I was in Jakarta last month, ISG was blocked, but I can access it from Cambodia, where I am now. As with the other requests, I would like to learn more about proxy sites to get around the censors. Thanks.

Bule2004

[QUOTE=Tommy Suharto;1132905]Berguling lagi, I guess there will also be some other good unblocking software available, but have you tried UltraSurf? You can find it by typing it in Google. It is freeware and has good reviews. It allows you to overcome blockage and gives you some privacy in the form of anonymous surfing, cheers.[/QUOTE]TS haven't tried that one but have tried many others and the usual pattern is that they are only good for a few days because the internet blockers are actively chasing proxy sites so all we can do is try to stay a step or two ahead.

To that end I would suggest you don't post details of any useful proxy sites because on the assumption that this forum is being monitored that will only hasten their demise. I suggest passing the information around by PM instead.

[QUOTE=John Aldrich;1133089]Am in Africa and I find that many websites are blocked here. Would appreciate if you could help me in accessing proxy websites.[/QUOTE]JA I have sent you a PM with some info.

I have used Hotspot Shield from AnchorFree in the Middle East; the big banner which appears on top of every page is an eyesore but the program *always* gets you to the sites you want.

BTW, which ISPs are banning ISG etc?

[QUOTE=Bule2004; 1133112]When I was in Jakarta last month, ISG was blocked, but I can access it from Cambodia, where I am now. As with the other requests, I would like to learn more about proxy sites to get around the censors. Thanks.

Bule2004[/QUOTE]Bule2004 I have also sent you a PM

[QUOTE=Freezone; 1133083]Ha, I had thought of avoiding staying here even though the room prices are cheapest but read somewhere it was not preferred because most P4P girls won't go back with you if you stayed here.

But if motobikes are available at JJ, then I may end up finding a room here as well.

FZ.

BTW, has anyone ever stayed here before (Jalan Jaksa)? [/QUOTE]I have stayed there in the past. Why don't you stay in a hotel of your preference and rent a bike in JJ? Do keep in mind however, that thieves prey on motorbikes!

BTW, if you focus on mongering in the northern part: the Kota, Lokasari and Pangeran Jayakarta area. 95% of the action is in-house.

The girls that are reluctant to come to your JJ hotel are from the Blok M area or gather in the five star hotel bars, like CJ, BATS or Tigapuluh. They are more expensive anyway.

Third option is finding a girl in the JJ area itself.

[QUOTE=Berguling Lagi;1133138]JA I have sent you a PM with some info.[/QUOTE]Thanks a million. Really appreciate

Hi Guys,

Going to be in Jakarta for one night later this month My question is that I have one night which happens to be a Monday night (I fly out around lunch time the following day) What is a good spot on Monday nights? Are the Blok M bars busy? Is there any place nearer the airport that has some good ayam bars? What is a good hotel to stay? I prefer the bar pick-up scene as opposed to MPs. Any help is appreciated!

[QUOTE=Menteng;1133353]Third option is finding a girl in the JJ area itself.[/QUOTE]There are girls on the street at night. You don't have to go looking, just stroll down the road and they'll make you an offer. They'll even shout across the street at you or bang on the side of your taxi to attract your attention. Or try Memories for a (very slightly) more upmarket experience. That's probably the best reliable place, but I'd have to say, the cost-for-value ratio isn't really that good.

Near the junction of Mangga Besar and Hayam Wuruk (down Hayam Wuruk Road) I have seen like 4-5 girls (range 5-7 of 10) , always dressed casually, scanning the passerbys. This was like 10-11 PM, on three or four nights when I went to Royal / Berlain / Kartika. They always stand near the entrance of the businesses that have closed for the night. In rather dim light. Thing is they don't look like your average street walker (well they wear little denim shorts and T-shirt / tops but that's pretty much the favored dress of the Orient) but they are actually "chaperoned" or watched over by guys on bikes. They ain't got silver canes and shades and bling bling and mink coats nor look like leg-breakers either. I watched the girls for some time one night and I noticed they walk up the bikes once in a while, talk to the men and return to their stations.

One could easily I'd the WGs in h*e paint and dress (and maybe the odd p1mp watching from a nearby ill-light spot) in JJ and a couple of squares up north Jakarta. But these ladies in Hayam Wuruk kinda confuse my radar. Anyone got a handle on this phenomena? At least noticed this pattern elsewhere? Is this place another pick-up lane? And what is the business model. Biker notes car numbers or chaperons the clients and his charge to their den?

I liked that class on Comparative Politics in college. Or was it Comparative Literature? Anyway, I love ISG and have read plenty, but sometimes it's hard to compare different mongering destinations without getting some direct expert input. So my solution is to just ask. I'm planning one last major mongering bender in mid April (10-14 days). I hope not to give up the hobby, but in a few months I'll have to pursue it on 'l little here, a little there' basis. In short, one last full-on sex vacation coming up. Sooo. . .

Where to go? I know we have some well-traveled mongerers on the board, so I'm looking for some comparative perspective from guys who have been to the places on this board plus the others I list below. Here are my options; they seem like gaps in my mongering resume I need to fill. (One factor: I have to justify the trip as tourism, so for example a strictly Bangkok trip would definitely raise red flags). Here goes:

Jakarta – Cost to travel $650 – Pros: Wild girls (threesomes) at Jakarta places, prices seem fair, would like to visit Sumatra so Jakarta a good launch point. Cons: Been to Jakarta and didn't love the city, and that seems like the only place to really monger on the trip; Indo girls nice, but may want more diversity.

Macau, Changping, Hong Kong (with possible Bangkok layover). Cost to Travel $1000 to $1400 – Pros:; like the idea of trying KTV and Chinese saunas; Can visit a relative in Macau so I have a good pretext to go; Want to go now before scene gets shut down or too pricey; Bangkok layover chance a big plus. Cons: US visa issue, no Chinese language, Macau saunas seem a bit pricey, lots of reports about Chinese girls being too mechanical, though I have contradictory experience in KL and elsewhere. . .

Brazil (Rio) – Cost to travel about $1400 – Pros: I generally love Latinas and tan lines and diverse looks, and what I hear about Brazilian girls in bed (confirmed at an FKK and LMP) ; Cons: I would be there around and during holy week; Termas seem expensive and exchange rate to dollar not great; No Portuguese but I've managed with no Spanish in other countries and so maybe can fake it; Been there once (pre mongering days) and want to do non-mongering activities but trip not long enough to see lots of Brazil.

Other options: Colombia, Manila: been to both places recently, great sex / price, but don't have lots of time to see new parts of country to justify going.

Thanks for indulging my indecision!

Fellow Mongers might now be knowing that the system has been changed at Tropical Spa. New system is massage+FS all in 90 minutes (which was previously separate sessions of 90+60 minutes with seperate girls) for RP 410, 000.

Now question is: Is there any spa at Jakarta which offers services where in massage of 90 minutes plus FS of 45-60 minutes with a separate girl? Thanks for the feedback.

Hi All.

About 2. 5 years ago I was fortunate enough to have layby in Jakarta for 4 days

At that time I managed to have a great deal if fun with a couple of girls from Topgun / myplace in blok m.

They were called sita and shita (perhaps assumed names) , they lived in the same large house not far away with several other wg.

One was darker and one was lighter skinned and very slim.

I would plan to go back to Jakarta in the near future and would like to know if they are still on the circuit to re-live the fun

Any news is appreciated

The frenchman

Seeing alot of posts about jalan jaksa lately so will throw in my experience from there. Was with a friend in the area looking for a late night travel agency. No agencies able to do international flights after 10pm so my friend and I sat at a local watering hole. Can't remember the name but they had uniforms like the Jco coffee place.

Started to get my drink on and decided I wanted a get my freak on. While this is not my usual venue I wanted to sample what this famous street had to offer. Probably over paid but was offered 2 girls a room with a shower for 650000. Finally got up to the room and it wasn't a shower but a bucket of water with a scoop and the girls were definately not up to par. Spent a little more than an hour with them. I was given BBBJ and passed on any kind of kissing. FS with both and was offered bareback but laughed at that idea, I really want to double up actually. In my 4 months in jakarta I have mongered out in the city solo and used advice from this site. Since I am young I usually never have a problem finding the freebies. But in the end thats the shit that ends up costing more in the long run. I would advise anyone new to jakarta to take the jakarta after dark tour. I will when I return. This city is all about who you know and I am sorry I never booked that tour when I first got to town. Someone that can provide connections is a valued friend in jakarta for sure.

Also I don't know if the horrible rumour I read is true that the 6 th floor melawai is closing down, but that is a damn shame

[QUOTE=Menteng; 1133353]I have stayed there in the past. Why don't you stay in a hotel of your preference and rent a bike in JJ? Do keep in mind however, that thieves prey on motorbikes!

BTW, if you focus on mongering in the northern part: the Kota, Lokasari and Pangeran Jayakarta area. 95% of the action is in-house.

The girls that are reluctant to come to your JJ hotel are from the Blok M area or gather in the five star hotel bars, like CJ, BATS or Tigapuluh. They are more expensive anyway.

Third option is finding a girl in the JJ area itself. [/QUOTE]Thanks for the reply.

Sucks that they eye the motobike as it is my usual method of local travel almost anywhere in SEA.

When you said 95% of action up north is in-house, are you referring to local brothels?

Drop me a PM if you don't wish to post any local sites. Thanks.

FZ

Read the forum and some of you recommend this guy. I'm not a heavy drinker is he still a good investment to a Jakartanewbie?

I'm a bit tired of LOS and Phils massageparlours and GoGos. But I'm to pussy to try new things. And it all ends up with the same countries to visit. Same thing last month. Now I have to try something else.

I think that he can help me in only two of his tour-things.

2. Advice on the most interesting places in Jakarta

3. Help dealing with situations

Menteng! Do you have a course in how to hook up with women in the Jakarta-malls? Thats a new thing for me.

PB

TL,

Keep away from these bitches as I have asked several taxi drivers over the years and these are scam artists where the ***** takes you back to a pre arranged hotel where you do the deed but halfway thru you get busted by a fake cop or someone pretending to be the husband. You end up being extorted for them to keep quite. Look but don't indulge.

[QUOTE=Tenth Legion; 1133683]Near the junction of Mangga Besar and Hayam Wuruk (down Hayam Wuruk Road) I have seen like 4-5 girls (range 5-7 of 10) , always dressed casually, scanning the passerbys. This was like 10-11 PM, on three or four nights when I went to Royal / Berlain / Kartika. They always stand near the entrance of the businesses that have closed for the night. In rather dim light. Thing is they don't look like your average street walker (well they wear little denim shorts and T-shirt / tops but that's pretty much the favored dress of the Orient) but they are actually "chaperoned" or watched over by guys on bikes. They ain't got silver canes and shades and bling bling and mink coats nor look like leg-breakers either. I watched the girls for some time one night and I noticed they walk up the bikes once in a while, talk to the men and return to their stations.

One could easily I'd the WGs in h*e paint and dress (and maybe the odd p1mp watching from a nearby ill-light spot) in JJ and a couple of squares up north Jakarta. But these ladies in Hayam Wuruk kinda confuse my radar. Anyone got a handle on this phenomena? At least noticed this pattern elsewhere? Is this place another pick-up lane? And what is the business model. Biker notes car numbers or chaperons the clients and his charge to their den? [/QUOTE]

Just arrived back at work after 5 days in the Sunda Strait surfing and fishing and another 5 days in Bali with my GF. Arrived back Jakarta on Wednesday 16th and sent the GF back to Kalimantan straight from Sokaerno-Hatta and I went straight to the Grand Kemang and checked in around 13. 30 with my pre-arranged regular Frida dropping around 14. 00 to perform her BBBJCIM magic. Unfortunately my other regular. 18 yr old tall slender full rounded breasts and tight pussy was on the rags so around 15. 00 caught a taxi to go to Hotel Classic but unfortunately on Wednesday Jakarta experienced a really windy heavy rain squall which made me change my itenary. Fell asleep in the taxi near Pasar Raya and woke up around 30 minutes later about 200 metres from Pasar Raya as the road near the Main Cop Shop was flooded with numerous trees blocking the roads so I told the driver to take me to 5+1 so I can have a beer and indulge myself whilst waiting for the kaos on the road to be maintained. The 6th Flr is very sad indeed as the quality has certainly diminished to the worst I have ever seen it. Good news for the mongers is that Shela is back working there. I fronted Shela for a massage but she knocked me back with an excuse that she was still 'meriang' feverish.

Getting knocked back by a working girl certainly made me feel great. Hehehehe, about 2. 2 1/2 years ago I picked Shela up from Top Gun and used to aquire her services quite regularly until I got the dreaded green drip from her as she was the only one I had screwed recently without using a beret. Anyway I rang her up to tell her she needs to see a doctor and she straight away got irrationally upset with me and told me that I was a dirty disgusting maggot and that I was the problem and she never wanted to see me again. I even offered to pay for her medical myself at SOS but she told me to Fu*k Off. Anyway foolish me for thinking that time would heal old injuries and even working girls are corruptible with a pocket full of personality. So there I was stuck in the 6th Floor wirh a horde of ugly fuglies and the only hot one there still hating my guts. Thank god for alcohol to make a bad situation bearable. Finally left 5+1 around 17. 15 and surveying some of the new shifters but still very disappointing so jumped in a cab without indulging and headed off to Kota. Still kaos aand carnage on the roads but luckily the cab driver used the bus lane from Ratu Plaza to just before the Semanggi overpass as it was macet city. Ended up getting stuck in traffic kaos again in Jl Thamrin so after around 1/2 hour of moving 100m I paid the taxi and jumped out ans started walking several kms up until the museum near Monas where I jumped on a ojek who took me to Hotel Classic. Hotel Classic is rocking and has by far the best looking girls on average anywhere plus with the 2 for 400 trick is icing on top.

Ended up doing a double act (Tia & Yani) then 1 single Lisa, and left around 22. 00 as I wanted to get back to Sportsmans for 1/2 a baby back ribs and some beef jerky. After having a feed I checked out D's place which is still the same, pretty damn average then shot across to TG where things were pretty disappointing also as I'm pretty damn picky and only want chicks with nice tits, nice looking and no kids. I then went across to My Bar and that was pretty quiet too so I decided to go home alone after working out why I was feeling so rooted. That morning in Bali I had got my morning glory with my GF then flew to Jakarta and got a great BBBJCIM from Frida then went to the Classic which produced 3 Classics for me. So I went home and had a good mornings sleep 02. 00. 08. 00.

Next day get to my office around 10. 00 sort out my business then take off and arrive at Kota Indah around 14. 30. Start off at Royal with average looking girls in the Fish Bowl, my average is probably HOT for a lot of punters, don't stay long then head over to Sari Ayu without any stunners also so I head over to LA where I have my first beer while purveying the goods on offer. Still no bites so check out MTR with the same result. Jump on a ojek and head straight to HT unfortunately as I walk in the one that I want walks right in front of me with her bag heading off upstairs to perform her duties with some other punter. She is tall slender and full well rounded plump beautiful breasts as far as one can tell with clothes on. How many times have we been fooled by the wonder bra.

I'm getting fussier and fussier as I leave HT withour indulging also so head straight to HC where my dreams are fulfilled again with a bevy of beauties. HC absolutely rocks and always satisfies my very very fussy and particular requirements.

Now I'm back at work suffering and celibant until I get to go back to Another Typical Day in Jakarta again.

I'm glad I have a steady GF as there is only so much pussy you can poke without getting sick of it and the scene. Next time I go to the Block I willl take my GF so I end up going home with the hottest chick and not sitting there complaining on how good it was in the Good Old Years.

Dear all,

Planning a trip to Indonesia in May / June, and would like to spend some time in Jakarta as well. Which clubs, privates, escort agencies offer Russian or Ukraine girls? You might think I am stupid trying to find these type of nationalities in Jakarta, but don't have the intention to visit Moscow or Kiev. Was just wondering therefore. Any of you who could help me out?

Thanks!

Vogel

[QUOTE=Primo Bolan; 1135035]Read the forum and some of you recommend this guy. I'm not a heavy drinker is he still a good investment to a Jakartanewbie?

I'm a bit tired of LOS and Phils massageparlours and GoGos. But I'm to pussy to try new things. And it all ends up with the same countries to visit. Same thing last month. Now I have to try something else.

I think that he can help me in only two of his tour-things.

2. Advice on the most interesting places in Jakarta

3. Help dealing with situations

Menteng! Do you have a course in how to hook up with women in the Jakarta-malls? Thats a new thing for me.

PB[/QUOTE]JAD can also prevent you from being ripped off and he knows a lot of things beyond mongering.

You're a foreigner, so follow the Master in mall-hunting: Bulai69. He wrote about his tactics in the past (use the search function to find his postings).

[QUOTE=Menteng; 1135107]JAD can also prevent you from being ripped off and he knows a lot of things beyond mongering.

You're a foreigner, so follow the Master in mall-hunting: Bulai69. He wrote about his tactics in the past (use the search function to find his postings). [/QUOTE]Thanks Menteng! Well he wrote this some time ago:

"I say that with some trepidation because I'm not an accomplished mall hunter like some here." He must be joking.

I will follow in his and your steps like a maniac. I had my ticket today, feels like victory.

PB

[QUOTE=Vogel09; 1135078]Dear all,

Planning a trip to Indonesia in May / June, and would like to spend some time in Jakarta as well. Which clubs, privates, escort agencies offer Russian or Ukraine girls? You might think I am stupid trying to find these type of nationalities in Jakarta, but don't have the intention to visit Moscow or Kiev. Was just wondering therefore. Any of you who could help me out?

Thanks!

Vogel[/QUOTE]You can find Russian girls (most of them are from Uzbekistan) in clubs such as Malioboro, Alexis, Classic hotel SPA, Sumo (Kelapa Gading). IMHO the hottest ones are in Malioboro.

Well the quality of te uzbeks in Alexis are so so you can better opt for the Chinese (chungko) or the thai models in Alexis and the most important is that the service of the uzbeks is sometimes bad and from the chines+thai are always good even the vietnam are good I can recommend that you try MIE from vietnam she has nice boobs and pussy is tight as hell she gives very good GFE.

[QUOTE=Primo Bolan; 1135116]Thanks Menteng! Well he wrote this some time ago:

"I say that with some trepidation because I'm not an accomplished mall hunter like some here." He must be joking.

I will follow in his and your steps like a maniac. I had my ticket today, feels like victory.

PB[/QUOTE]Well I can add a recent perspective. I was meeting a internet lady at plaza semanggi for lunch and and we went into the American grill for lunch and I noticed this cutie working one of the stalls outside, great body, good tits and a knee length skirt. I took the seat so I could look out and maintain eye contact. She kept looking and smiling. My date couldn't see anything. When my date went to the toilet this sales ladies obviously gay friend pointed to her and motioned if I wanted her handphone number. So I smiled and nodded and pointed to my dates empty chair and laughed. After lunch and we left my date went to fix her make up and I got the digits. Called her that night and took her out for dinner the next night and fucked her. Other than dinner and taxi money it was a freebee. Just if you see something you like watch her, play it cool and make lots of eye contact and smile. Indonesia is the land of smile, use it to your advantage

I forgot to mention when I was at Hotel Travel I asked about the double act and it is 2 girls for 500k for 1. 5 hrs.

I'm very biased as I still reckon HC is the best.

[QUOTE=Mojito;1135125]You can find Russian girls (most of them are from Uzbekistan) in clubs such as Malioboro, Alexis, Classic hotel SPA, Sumo (Kelapa Gading). IMHO the hottest ones are in Malioboro.[/QUOTE]Mojito, I'm 100% with you. They have the most samples of any kind to suit everybody's budget. From 300k locals at the Wine Bar across the Malio Lounge to the 1. 7 mil Colombian beauty. Great place to be. From Spa to FJ and then later resign to the discos with exuberant live table top strip tease show. What a place to be!

A pic of eternal pleasure with a Colombianos.

[QUOTE=Vageterian;1135253]Well I can add a recent perspective. I was meeting a internet lady at plaza semanggi for lunch and and we went into the American grill for lunch and I noticed this cutie working one of the stalls outside, great body, good tits and a knee length skirt. I took the seat so I could look out and maintain eye contact. She kept looking and smiling. My date couldn't see anything. When my date went to the toilet this sales ladies obviously gay friend pointed to her and motioned if I wanted her handphone number. So I smiled and nodded and pointed to my dates empty chair and laughed. After lunch and we left my date went to fix her make up and I got the digits. Called her that night and took her out for dinner the next night and fucked her. Other than dinner and taxi money it was a freebee. Just if you see something you like watch her, play it cool and make lots of eye contact and smile. Indonesia is the land of smile, use it to your advantage[/QUOTE]Hi vegetarian. Keep this info confidential. If not Jakarta will become like Bangkok and we will shell out much more than what we do in other places. Jakarta is a secret and let it remain a secret. It's beneficial for you, me and other regular mongers. Why get others into the game and Jack up the price. So. Hssssssshhhhhhhhh.

[QUOTE=John Aldrich;1135544]Hi vegetarian. Keep this info confidential. If not Jakarta will become like Bangkok and we will shell out much more than what we do in other places. Jakarta is a secret and let it remain a secret. It's beneficial for you, me and other regular mongers. Why get others into the game and Jack up the price. So. Hssssssshhhhhhhhh.[/QUOTE]Does that mean we should close the thread. The services I recieved were free and no money exchanged hands. That can be done in any country of city in the world and does not influence the prices.

[QUOTE=Vageterian;1135253]Well I can add a recent perspective. I was meeting a internet lady at plaza semanggi for lunch and and we went into the American grill for lunch and I noticed this cutie working one of the stalls outside, great body, good tits and a knee length skirt. I took the seat so I could look out and maintain eye contact. She kept looking and smiling. My date couldn't see anything. When my date went to the toilet this sales ladies obviously gay friend pointed to her and motioned if I wanted her handphone number. So I smiled and nodded and pointed to my dates empty chair and laughed. After lunch and we left my date went to fix her make up and I got the digits. Called her that night and took her out for dinner the next night and fucked her. Other than dinner and taxi money it was a freebee. Just if you see something you like watch her, play it cool and make lots of eye contact and smile. Indonesia is the land of smile, use it to your advantage[/QUOTE]Thanks V! Great report, it seems though that Jakarta is only for the supermongers.

PB

[QUOTE=Vageterian;1135560]Does that mean we should close the thread. The services I recieved were free and no money exchanged hands. That can be done in any country of city in the world and does not influence the prices.[/QUOTE]Hmm, very interesting. But let me ask you a question. Since when it's not about the money? I'm surprise it never crossed in your mind that she was actually expecting but reluctant to discuss upfront. And in the end, she was also reluctant to ask before parting. Anyway, if you succeed doing what you did to the same girl at least for the second time then I'll agree with your "free pussy" statement.

Please be reasonable with this girl. Like the rest of them, she's just trying to survive under impossible conditions.

Do you have your pic on DIA or do you send it sep. In mail or HP to them or not at all? Advice.

PB

I remember back when I was in my 3T days (3T = Trim, Taut & Terrific & 30 yrs old) being a young lean mean surfing machine, I never ever used to pay for pussy except for buying dinner or taxi money. Nowadays I can't remember the last piece of free pussy I had and to be quite honest I don't really want it as when I'm in Jakarta my time is very limited and I just want it black and white. Thats why I thoroughly enjoy places like Hotel Classic. If Vage is a 3T sort of guy and got some free pussy good on him but I also understand where JAD is coming from also. A mate of mine once told me that once we leave Oz you fly across that invisible line called the Handsome Line where all of us blokes turn handsome and even more so if you have a pocket full of personality to boot, speak the lingo and understand Indo dynamics.

Is it easy in Jakarta to get a very good looking freelancing Indo girl there? With good looking I mean 7. 5 up on a scale from 1 to 10. How much do these good looking girls usually want for a night? Where are the places to meet these good looking girls in Jakarta?

[QUOTE=Primo Bolan; 1135976]Do you have your pic on DIA or do you send it sep. In mail or HP to them or not at all? Advice.

PB[/QUOTE]Giving out your HP number can be a risky task if you are trying to maintain secrecy. I just usually give a yahoo address and say I can recieve instant messages and that is the best way to reach me. I don't like having my phone ringing when I am out with the GF. Best results are always gained with using a pic in the profile. Not all women on these dating sites are working and the vast majority are just normal average women looking for a long term relationship or dating.

[QUOTE=Jakarta After Dark 2; 1135946]Hmm, very interesting. But let me ask you a question. Since when it's not about the money? I'm surprise it never crossed in your mind that she was actually expecting but reluctant to discuss upfront. And in the end, she was also reluctant to ask before parting. Anyway, if you succeed doing what you did to the same girl at least for the second time then I'll agree with your "free pussy" statement.

Please be reasonable with this girl. Like the rest of them, she's just trying to survive under impossible conditions.

JAKARTA AFTER DARK[/QUOTE]I definately understand your position. I can assure you the taxi money was more than ample. I think i realized at 6 years old . No pussy is ever free

[QUOTE=KangK;1135985]A mate of mine once told me that once we leave Oz you fly across that invisible line called the Handsome Line[/QUOTE]Must be true, because the sheilas get a whole lot better looking too!

[QUOTE=Pussycheck;1136047]Is it easy in Jakarta to get a very good looking freelancing Indo girl there? With good looking I mean 7. 5 up on a scale from 1 to 10. How much do these good looking girls usually want for a night? Where are the places to meet these good looking girls in Jakarta?[/QUOTE]Quite a few FL in Block M. Also check large discos. Mall pickups can be had on occasion. RTTF.

[QUOTE=Vageterian;1136055]I definately understand your position. I can assure you the taxi money was more than ample. I think i realized at 6 years old . No pussy is ever free[/QUOTE]Okay. Real taxi money is 50k-100k Rp. And when you are talking about "taxi money" then it is 300k. 1,000k Rp.

Hi All.

Was in Jakarta for three nights some time ago.

Arrived from Malaysia in the evening, early enough to catch up with friends for dinner and drinks. Dinner was at Koi (?) in Blok M, reasonable in terms of prices, remarkable in terms of quality for who likes a mixture of Asian and Western food. Good wines at affordable rates for Jakarta standards.

After dinner, went to CJs. The usual bench of piranhas, did not se anything that really struck my eye (s) so went back alone to hotel. In the lobby of the Meridien, was noticed by two Wgs who were hanging out there. Winked, mimicked suking action etc. So invited them to "have a drink in my room". Followed a bit of kissing, groping on the couch (thanks to the hotel designer, this proved handy) until one went on her knees and started to unzip me while the other one let me suck on her nipples and finger her shaved pussy. Had a quite enjoyable moment until I sprayed in the mouth of the one who was BJing me. Sorry, did not note names. I gave them 40 000 and wished them well on their way. One must have been 27 30, fair skin, reasonably sexy figure and cute face. Her friend must have been younger, claimed 21, short har, dark skin. And a nice body with sweet tits and tight ****.

I had already arranged with meeting my regular. See posts before. Who was supposed to arrive at 6AM for my wake up call, which is our customary arrangement now. Due to some mixup with the time on my phone, woke up one hour too early. KL time.. And waited for a while. But she did not show up. So slept again. Until I woke up. Knock knock on the door. It so happened that she did arrive on time, even a little advanced, but since I was sleeping she had been nowking for around 30 minutes. Oops. I had told her I wanted skirt and no panty. To be sure she was really as horny as she promised. Felt up her skirt, and yes she was not wearing. And the long knocking on the door did not apparently stop her from being wet. So I felt a little sorry ofr course, she was really nice and to cut it short this did not stop us from having a once again very nice session with two shots within two hours. Two ending with CIM for which she really seems to have a passion. I ordered breakfast for her, then went to take breakfast with staff. I had made it clear that I was not going to see her the next night.

Had planned a meeting with one of my DIA contacts. Only saw her one time on cam. But lots of sexy talk and the special mention of her being able to wake up a dead man with her tongue. Seemed promising. So we confirmed meeting after dinner, since I was having dinner with staff. Which happened at a Starbucks in Kuningan around 10 30 PM. Gave her the agreed perfume. Talked for a while while she was conspicuously sucking on the straw on her latte. Then she asked me : what are your plans. I said go watch tv in my room. Where we went. A little of groping and kissing in the cab. Then the customary welcome sir at the entrance of hotel (these guys always seem to admire my being able to come back with so many different women) then up to my room. Then, a little of kissing and hop to shower. She did not want to have sex since she just finisehd her period. So we sticked to her promise of giving me one of the best BJs. Which happened with a wonderful finale in her mouth. I slept after that, feeling a bit tired and more than happy. She slept too, and left at 530 AM. I hardly woke up. Once again DIA delivered.

Next day, going down for breakfast, was greeted by a woman in the elevator. Obviously a WG who stayed overnight. So I said Hi with a grin. And then she said : I know you, you are french and your name is. Oops. I don't know you. And left.

Agenda was busy with meetings until 7PM. Ordered a massage from the hotel. Very nice, was dosing for half of the 55 minutes. No special service offered, none asked. Good massge anyway. Went down, had a club sandwich at the bar. Then weighed my options. And decided to go to the famous Melawai hotel. Had read very nice reports here. So was quite disappointed. Setting is quite run down. I was there anyway, so decided to see if the service was as bad as it looked. Took mimi (from jawa) reasobaly cute, small frame. She took me to a shabby room. Strange, there is this window at eye level that they cover with a towel? Anyway, two resonably good sessions, but no CIM, no anal, all covered and a lame massage inbetween. Left some 50 000 including tip. Room was clean but the spartian type. Anyway, I will not return.

After that went bar hopping a little then back to Le meridien. In my room, read through mails, and decided to go down. Saw one of the two whom I invited to my room. Not the good looking one. And then the WG from the morning. Which I recognized, suddenly, and reasonably, since she was wearing her hunting attire : short skirt, and plunging view in her fake D cup cleavage. I gently shewed her away.

I then looked at the crowd. Listened to the band. Until I started exchanging smiles and winks with a small spinster who was with her friends. We had a few drinks, danced, groped, grinned, until it was 1 30 or 1 45 AM. Time where I took the bill, including afew drinks with her friends. And up to my room. 24 (or maybe 27) under 155 cms, must have weighed 43 or 44, and reasonably fit given the motherhood. We had sex twice. She was good, not extravagantly so, but quite ok. She made me come twice and I think she did too. She very much sounded so. Worth the two shags anyway. I let her go at 4 or so, her choice since she has a 3 year old and needed to be there when he wakes up. Exchanged emails. And gave her taxi money. Well also milk money since she asked, all in all I think 200 000. With the drinks I spent around 700 000. Fun anyway.

Jakarta still delivers. Will be back soon. But no to Melawai or Maribaya.

[QUOTE=Pussycheck;1136047]Is it easy in Jakarta to get a very good looking freelancing Indo girl there? With good looking I mean 7. 5 up on a scale from 1 to 10. How much do these good looking girls usually want for a night? Where are the places to meet these good looking girls in Jakarta?[/QUOTE]Since everyone rates girls differently, you would need to post a pic of a girl you consider to be a 7. 5 for us to know what minimum type of quality you are looking for.

Never been but heard about these places. I am usually a visitor to Hotel Travel but wanted to try this out.

I walked into Berlian, about 6 girls there around 1:30pm. None of them were my type, so walked out and went to Kartika.

Kartika, had a choice of about 20 girls. You walk in and they are all there and crowd around you immediatly "pick me, pick me!".

I picked one, but ask I was walking to the stairs, saw this nice ass in a dress, asked her to turn around and them picker her. Her name was Sari.

Had to pay the house fee of 350K upfront. Then went up. Small dark room with a plastic covered bed and bathtub. Got undressed and was instructed to lay down on the bed. She undressed, soaped herself up and then began the slipy slidy. It was my first time so was amusing and fun. After a shower to get the soap off, she wiped the bed, put on a sheet and then got me to lie down and started a CBJ. Got me hard then FS.

Tipped her 50K, she was asking for 100K. I refused and said, maybe next time.

Compare to Hotel travel, I would rather go there than this place again. HT is much cleaner and nicer experience.

-JM

[QUOTE=FrenchTouch; 1136509]I gave them 40 000 and wished them well on their way.

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Left some 50 000 including tip. Room was clean but the spartian type. Anyway, I will not return.

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And gave her taxi money. Well also milk money since she asked, all in all I think 200 000. With the drinks I spent around 700 000. [/QUOTE]Nice summary of your trip FT. But you must have been overwhelmed by the experience that you forgot a zero in the first 3 figures. BTW, I think you overpaid the last one. About Rp. 1.300. 000, = even including milk money, is much.

Compared to other asian cities like Bangkok and Manila in which city do you find more stunners?

[QUOTE=Pussycheck;1136932]Compared to other asian cities like Bangkok and Manila in which city do you find more stunners?[/QUOTE]I like the thin thai and indonesian women, but on average the selection and prices are much better in the Philippines

[QUOTE=Menteng;1136869]Nice summary of your trip FT. But you must have been overwhelmed by the experience that you forgot a zero in the first 3 figures. BTW, I think you overpaid the last one. About Rp. 1.300. 000, = even including milk money, is much.[/QUOTE]Coorect : I got mixed up. For the two I picked up in the lobby. 400 000; in the massage place 500 000. For the last one together with drinks I paid 700 000 which I guess was fair.

And as I think I said once, if you don't want to overpay, or want to save, don't go out. BUt that's another topic, no pun intended.

Best

[QUOTE=Vageterian;1136946]I like the thin thai and indonesian women, but on average the selection and prices are much better in the Philippines[/QUOTE]Manila really sucks for mongering. Even BKK and Jakarta are far better.

Your statement might be true if you compare Angeles with the rest, but to be fair you should compare Angeles with Pattaya (Indonesia has nothing that comes close).

The total costs for a trip are about the same for Angeles and Pattaya.

My recommendation: Don't go to Manila (what an expensive shithole) , BKK (expensive but nice) or Jakarta (expensive shithole). Go to Angeles or Pattaya.

All mongers listen to BigCebu and go to Thailand and Flipland and don't come to Indo as its an expensive shithole with ugly chicks and blood thirsty headbangers wanting to cut your head off. Little head that is! Hehehehe

[QUOTE=KangK;1137113]don't come to Indo as its an expensive shithole with ugly chicks and blood thirsty headbangers wanting to cut your head off.[/QUOTE]Plus, they have bombs! Another lot set off last week. Ok, so they were trying to blow up Indonesians, but you never know who will be next! Leave the place to the suicidal and crazy. I'm completely nuts and don't value my life, so I keep going. Don't know why.

Plus the traffic is the shits. At least someday the MRT will be completed. Oh wait, guess not

[QUOTE=FrenchTouch; 1137108]Coorect : I got mixed up. For the two I picked up in the lobby. 400 000; in the massage place 500 000. For the last one together with drinks I paid 700 000 which I guess was fair.

And as I think I said once, if you don't want to overpay, or want to save, don't go out. BUt that's another topic, no pun intended.

Best[/QUOTE]You can go out without overpaying, but you can't help it when little head does the thinking.

[QUOTE=Vageterian;1134552]Also I don't know if the horrible rumour I read is true that the 6 th floor melawai is closing down, but that is a damn shame[/QUOTE]I hope it is a horrible rumour? The 6th floor Melawai institution closing down? Can any recent visitors confirm or deny?

So many fond memories of lazy afternoons or early evenings. Where will a brother recommend newbie friends to Jakarta to visit? Where do you take your little brother when he is in town?

[QUOTE=Rogue Wan; 1137503]I hope it is a horrible rumour? The 6th floor Melawai institution closing down? Can any recent visitors confirm or deny?

QUOTE]

Barman assured me that it was not closing down, except as usual during Ramadan

One of my regular DIA / Tagged (can't remember which, we first connected about 3 years ago)"Good Girls" (lives at home with mom & dad, not on the scene, works in a good job in one of the Jakarta glass towers) is a good looker, loves a good rodgering, but have never been fantastic in the BBBJ department, but I never complained.

After an absence of about 3-4 months we got together for a tryst and a sensational improvement. Fantastic BBBJ + full CIM. I didn't press the point, but I suspect some monger has taken her in hand and taught her the finer points. Nice job.

THANKS MATE.

Perhaps I am getting old, but after about 25 years mongering in SE Asia I have really tired of doing the rounds looking for gals and have settled into regular trysts with my stable of DIA / Tagged gals. I now much prefer the regular and predictable routine than the chase.

I can see that my regulars all fit into the same mold."Good Girls" with regular good jobs, late-20s to mid-30s, not on the scene, and living at home with their parents, and not really chasing to get married.

The usual routine is that drop by my hotel room after they knock-off from their office. On their knees for a BBBJCIM before we head off for dinner. One admitted that she had a perverse delight being with me in a crowded lift of a 5-star hotel with the taste of my cum in her mouth as we go out to dinner, and knowing that after acouple of hours she would be on all-fours with me pounding her from behind doggie style. These gals are all smart enough to realise that if they can have the old boy let off a head of steam, that later on when he recovers they are going to pounded rather hard.

Perhaps I will tire of this routine, I don't know. But what I do know the sex is good and an added bonus is that by 11 PM I can get my head down for a good sleep. I'm one of those poor sods who actually has to get up in the morning and work. When I was doing the rounds, I would rarely be asleep before 2:00 AM and I'm sure my work suffered.

A repost of one of my regular "good girls".

[QUOTE=Pak Mike;1137892]A repost of one of my regular "good girls".[/QUOTE]And now she is tagged: bad girl! Or worse! Couldn't you blur her face since she's no pro? Even with pro's I take precautions.

[QUOTE=Menteng;1137912]And now she is tagged: bad girl! Or worse! Couldn't you blur her face since she's no pro? Even with pro's I take precautions.[/QUOTE]She looked pretty darn good to me.

[QUOTE=Menteng;1137912]And now she is tagged: bad girl! Or worse! Couldn't you blur her face since she's no pro? Even with pro's I take precautions.[/QUOTE]With respect, I don't think she is can be identified from this foto. Her full face is not showing.

DIA is nice, they usually ask how long time I will be in Indonesia. However they want very long time I think.

[QUOTE=Primo Bolan;1138193]DIA is nice, they usually ask how long time I will be in Indonesia. However they want very long time I think.[/QUOTE]Yes, so tell them you will be there for 2-3 months. Worked well for me

[QUOTE=John Marigold99;1138263]Yes, so tell them you will be there for 2-3 months. Worked well for me[/QUOTE]Yes I know it works that way but I'm a bad liar. It works really good.

[QUOTE=Hung Man 1808;1137184]Plus, they have bombs! Another lot set off last week. Ok, so they were trying to blow up Indonesians, but you never know who will be next! Leave the place to the suicidal and crazy. I'm completely nuts and don't value my life, so I keep going. Don't know why.[/QUOTE]Wow. Really? Me too. I've been trying to figure out why. Maybe they slipped something into my Aqua last time I went. I seem to be suffering some kind of withdrawal symptoms. ;)

[QUOTE=Menteng;1137912]And now she is tagged: bad girl! Or worse! Couldn't you blur her face since she's no pro? Even with pro's I take precautions.[/QUOTE]Do you take precautions bro? Oh you mean about the photos? How are you and when will we be graced by your presence? We all love seeing you in action. I have to admit that I do prefer the dating website scene. So much GFE, so much wetness. Some of them actually get very wet during dinner when you start to flirt. Drives me nuts when I "find out later.

MD II

Does Travel Hotel have the same quantity and quality of girls during Ramadan time? (August-September)

Hi, I'd like to know more about Jakarta and Pattaya and if you know both, I hope you will answer to my questiuons:

1) Is it easier to find willing girls for overnight (10pm-7am) in Jakarta or Pattaya?

2) Where is it cheaper for overnight?

3) Where cheaper for 2 hours of full fucking?

I thank you.

[QUOTE=Master Diver II; 1138500]Do you take precautions bro? Oh you mean about the photos? How are you and when will we be graced by your presence? We all love seeing you in action. I have to admit that I do prefer the dating website scene. So much GFE, so much wetness. Some of them actually get very wet during dinner when you start to flirt. Drives me nuts when I "find out later.

MD II[/QUOTE]Haven't been doing P4P for quite a while now. In Medellin you don't have to. A lot of lonely and forsaken wives / girlfriends here. Every three months I'm really, deeply, sincerely and forever in love.

Bro, you're a real gentleman. I usually try to find out if my table-lady is wet during dinner. It's only a fingertip away (grin)!

[QUOTE=Menteng; 1138745]Jack Mgl asked for directions and I gave them. In addition MDII pointed at BATS and Delila. Expensive or cheap wasn't mentioned and BigCebu qualified them as expensive, to which I agree. Although, it depends on your oral skills (pun?) how much money is going to be traded. And of course, if you look like MDII, things will go a lot easier.

But to stick to the subject, I rely upon the best nightlife guide of Jakarta: Jakarta After Dark II[/QUOTE]Is that if you speak a some bahasa? If I can show them that I have been there before, I don't see much about that subject in the threads or maybe I'm blind, it should be obvious and I only know one juta? Where did JAD I go?

PB IV

[QUOTE=FoxesHunter; 1138707]Hi, I'd like to know more about Jakarta and Pattaya and if you know both, I hope you will answer to my questiuons:

1) Is it easier to find willing girls for overnight (10pm-7am) in Jakarta or Pattaya?

2) Where is it cheaper for overnight?

3) Where cheaper for 2 hours of full fucking?

I thank you.[/QUOTE]To FOX.

I think Pattaya is much easier to find actions everything is in the open jarkata is a big city 10 time bigger and you need to look harder, about cost Pattaya is cheaper than Jarkata but overall Qualtiy is much better and you get at international staff here in Jarkata.

Fast eddei 48

[QUOTE=Primo Bolan;1138790]Is that if you speak a some bahasa?[/QUOTE]Not necessarily to know how to speak bahasa.

[QUOTE=Primo Bolan; 1138790]If I can show them that I have been there before, I don't see much about that subject in the threads or maybe I'm blind, it should be obvious and I only know one juta? Where did JAD I go?

PB IV[/QUOTE]Showing that you've been there before doesn't help if that previous time you paid over the top. They will know. Reread this thread or do a search on CJ, BATS and / or Tiga Puluh. You'll learn that 1 juta or more is their opening bid.

You can find Jakarta After Dark 2 in the Classified Ads section or else use the search function in this thread.

[QUOTE=Menteng; 1139115]Not necessarily to know how to speak bahasa.

Showing that you've been there before doesn't help if that previous time you paid over the top. They will know. Reread this thread or do a search on CJ, BATS and / or Tiga Puluh. You'll learn that 1 juta or more is their opening bid.

You can find Jakarta After Dark 2 in the Classified Ads section or else use the search function in this thread. [/QUOTE]OK thank you Menteng I am reading and reading. My Q about where JAD ONE have gone? Now his name is JAD TWO.

Did someone else take over number ones business? I have read the forum about Jakarta so much that I already understand about the opening bid, but I wrote that I only know one word in bahasa and thats "Juta". Thank you for taking your time Menteng.

As Always Primo

[QUOTE=Menteng; 1138754]Haven't been doing P4P for quite a while now. In Medellin you don't have to. A lot of lonely and forsaken wives / girlfriends here. Every three months I'm really, deeply, sincerely and forever in love.

Bro, you're a real gentleman. I usually try to find out if my table-lady is wet during dinner. It's only a fingertip away (grin)! [/QUOTE]Likewise bro, I'm not really into the P4P in Jakarta anymore. I've been busy on the dating websites. Jakarta has been very good for me so no complaints:D. But you are making me curious about Medellin. Maybe I need to take up Spanish again. Anywhere that can keep you away from this city must have something to offer.
[QUOTE=Primo Bolan;1139170] I have read the forum about Jakarta so much that I already understand about the opening bid, but I wrote that I only know one word in bahasa and thats "Juta". Thank you for taking your time Menteng.
As Always Primo[/QUOTE]
Time for you to learn some new words then: satu, dua, tiga, empat, lima, enam, tujuh, lapan, sembilan - 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9; sepuluh, dua puluh, tiga puluh...etc - 10, 20, 30... etc; ratus - hundred; ribu - thousand; then you put it all together: lima ratus ribu - 500,000 or tiga ratus lima puluh ribu - 350,000. That's a quick lesson, I'm sure you can manage the rest. Have fun...

MD II

Hi guys!

Just got back from jakarta last week (I usually have trips to Jakarta a couple of times during a year). As per usual I visited places like alexis, malioboro, and v2. To my astonishment however, I noticed that most of the places only have very limited selection of Russian (uzbek-ukrain) girls. Most of the places now only have some latin girls (mostly columbians).

- in alexis, which was once a haven for the Russian girls, now literally only have 3 or 4 girls only (and not the beautiful ones mind you) and even then I suspect half of them are columbians. So dissapointing.

- in malioboro (which facilities and charge rates below alexis) , suprisingly they have more Russian girls now than alexis (around 5 to 7 girls) and I. M. O. Also reasonably more beautiful than alexis. Not only that, they even have more latin girls (around 8 to 10 girls) which also have better qualities than what you'd find in alexis.

I won't even bother to report what I found in V2.

So I was wondering if there's somewhat shifting of power between Russian and latin girls in general, or maybe all those beautiful Russian girls have moved to some other places that I don't know of. Any thoughts or lights in this matter?

P. S. When I was in jakarta some friend told me about a new place called "illigals", which now running at where the 1001 club was (if you've been around in Jakarta you'd know 1001). Any reports pertaining the new establishment?

JR

This Tovarisch visited Alexeis (sic) for a second time this weekend. It was around 8:00PM and the punters were just milling up so I could see the entire lineups. Noticed that the Mamasans repeated "Uzbek-Kassak" (sic) instead of "Russian"; however these ladies were still in the high roller slot. Like other members here said the Uzbeks ain't lookers. Kinda glum and dumpy and the selection pales with even the Dubai cohort.

This time went for a Thai "model" who's in the 1. 4M IDR slot; okay service. The one I marked for encounter the last time was with someone else and my favorite girl was missing from the Indonesian lineup. BTW, the bill for the service is charged for "bottle of wine L-xxx"; guess it is to help those coming in on expense accounts heh heh. Wonder how you explain a bottle of wine costing up to three times the room cost.

BTW, I've never been to Malioboro Club. I have RTFF but could someone give a detailed Standard Operating Procedure. I. E. What to expect when you step in (like in Classic you got to go to the Atrium actually) , lockers, changing rooms, billing, the dreaded "extra charges" some girls enter etc. Exact directions would also help. I mean, I once barged into the manager's / annex room of Star Massage. Well, it was partly due to the papasan's poor Engris and partly due to my impatience to get the best BBBJ in Jakarta (this little wisp called Atin. Not the best looker but a real trooper, 'specially if you have been with her at least twice).

[QUOTE=Primo Bolan; 1139170]OK thank you Menteng I am reading and reading. My Q about where JAD ONE have gone? Now his name is JAD TWO.

Did someone else take over number ones business?

Primo[/QUOTE]He used to run a diiferent site as "one".

[QUOTE=Menteng;1139524]He used to run a diiferent site as "one".[/QUOTE]Ok. It just seemed to be an inflation in putting numbers behind the names. Anyway I'm going to use his service when in Jakarta later.

Primo V

[QUOTE=Master Diver II; 1139308]Likewise bro, I'm not really into the P4P in Jakarta anymore. I've been busy on the dating websites. Jakarta has been very good for me so no complaints. But you are making me curious about Medellin. Maybe I need to take up Spanish again. Anywhere that can keep you away from this city must have something to offer.

MD II[/QUOTE]Medellin is supposed to have the most beautiful women of Colombia. True or not, at least you can find from pitch black to snow white girls / women. Me being an Asian is an advantage here, it tickles their curiosity and opens doors to a possible next level. I'm tempted to say: "like a bule in Jakarta", but without being considered a walking ATM.

[QUOTE=

Time for you to learn some new words then: satu, dua, tiga, empat, Lima, enam, tujuh, lapan, sembilan. 1,2. 3,4. 5,6. 7,8. 9; sepuluh, dua puluh, tiga puluh. Etc. 10, 20, 30. Etc; ratus. Hundred; ribu. Thousand; then you put it all together: Lima ratus ribu. 500, 000 or tiga ratus Lima puluh ribu. 350, 000. That's a quick lesson, I'm sure you can manage the rest. Have fun.

MD II[/QUOTE]Thanks for teaching me a lesson!

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48; 1138880]To FOX.

About cost Pattaya is cheaper than Jarkata but overall Qualtiy is much better and you get at international staff here in Jarkata. [/QUOTE]I'm sorry but I don't understand fine. In Jakarta there is a much better quality of girls?

Thanks

Hi to everybody. I am pretty new in gear and have been following your reports for some time. Although I am travelling to Jakarta for a couple of years now, I usually went to CJ's and Bats and another place which is in Manga Dua (but I forgot the name). Also Red Square is not too bad.

However, I have never been to Alexis, Malioboro or V2.

Can one of you let me know where these places are since I go to Jakarta Mid April and I would like to follow up on these places as well.

Thanks a lot and please do not get upset since my first comment here is a question. I will for sure submit a report after my next visit.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48;1138880]and you get at international staff here in Jarkata.[/QUOTE]Tons of Russian hookers (actually from Uzbekistan) , black hookers. In Pattaya.

Apartments from US$150 a month, motorbike rental for US$ 2, 50 a day, food for a few cents, a beach.

For a monger holiday. Nothing beats Pattaya. There is no place in the world where you get a package like that.

Yes, it is pretty boring if you keep going there for many years and really everybody makes holiday there, but for a newbie in Asia it is the place to go.

[QUOTE=Bigcebu; 1140039]Tons of Russian hookers (actually from Uzbekistan) , black hookers. In Pattaya.

Apartments from US$150 a month, motorbike rental for US$ 2, 50 a day, food for a few cents, a beach.

For a monger holiday. Nothing beats Pattaya. There is no place in the world where you get a package like that.

Yes, it is pretty boring if you keep going there for many years and really everybody makes holiday there, but for a newbie in Asia it is the place to go. [/QUOTE]Yes and the beach is pretty nice. Try to swim in the garbage or take a ride on the jetski.

I recently had another trip to our favorite mongering city. Finally got my lazy ass out of the CJs / BATS scene and visited Hotel Classic. Took a friend with me who has not spent much time in jakarta, and a good time was had by all. The 2 girls for 400, 000 is still available, a single girl was 270, 000.

We went to the second floor place in Hotel Classic. As has been reported before, the girls are all sitting around on couches, they are grouped together based on the color of their dresses, each color dress has a different mamasan as far as I could tell. Some mamasans kept approaching our table with a group of their girls, some of the girls really look like they do not want to be there, and some are smiling and have that special look in their eye that tells you they will be good in the room. Use your mongering experience and pick wisely. I grabbed 2 girls, they sat with us at the table while we had a few drinks, allowed touching / rubbing etc while they grabbed my cock through my pants. In the room they were great, one was willing to do a bit of lesbian action but the other would not allow. Gave them each a 50, 000 tip for their efforts.

Unfortunately my friend did not make as good a selection and his single girl was kind of boring in the room, kept complaining about being tired, so he walked out and she did not get a tip.

Interestingly I think we were the only bules there, we thought about checking out the ground floor place but decided we were hungry and went to Blok M instead. Hit the usual places, TG, D's, MB, and the selection was not great. Ended up back at TG where we each found our take away for the night. They claimed to be sisters, good service from mine, had a good night with her in my hotel room, had a great morning session and sent her on her way while I went to work. Total damage 600, 000. I love this place.

[QUOTE=Ceegee; 1140104]I recently had another trip to our favorite mongering city. Finally got my lazy ass out of the CJs / BATS scene and visited Hotel Classic. Took a friend with me who has not spent much time in jakarta, and a good time was had by all. The 2 girls for 400, 000 is still available, a single girl was 270, 000.

We went to the second floor place in Hotel Classic. As has been reported before, the girls are all sitting around on couches, they are grouped together based on the color of their dresses, each color dress has a different mamasan as far as I could tell. Some mamasans kept approaching our table with a group of their girls, some of the girls really look like they do not want to be there, and some are smiling and have that special look in their eye that tells you they will be good in the room. Use your mongering experience and pick wisely. I grabbed 2 girls, they sat with us at the table while we had a few drinks, allowed touching / rubbing etc while they grabbed my cock through my pants. In the room they were great, one was willing to do a bit of lesbian action but the other would not allow. Gave them each a 50, 000 tip for their efforts.

Unfortunately my friend did not make as good a selection and his single girl was kind of boring in the room, kept complaining about being tired, so he walked out and she did not get a tip.

Interestingly I think we were the only bules there, we thought about checking out the ground floor place but decided we were hungry and went to Blok M instead. Hit the usual places, TG, D's, MB, and the selection was not great. Ended up back at TG where we each found our take away for the night. They claimed to be sisters, good service from mine, had a good night with her in my hotel room, had a great morning session and sent her on her way while I went to work. Total damage 600, 000. I love this place. [/QUOTE]The second floor place is named 'The Terminal" and the basement place is called "The Bunker"

[QUOTE=KangK;1140145]The second floor place is named 'The Terminal" and the basement place is called "The Bunker"[/QUOTE]So is The Bunker the one on the ground floor, as you walk in the hotel entrance, turn right and it is ahead of you at the end of the corridor on the same level as the entrance? This is the place with imports right?

The Terminal name makes sense now, I wondered why they were talking about terminal 1, terminal 2 to go shag in and giving us boarding passes to get out of the place.

[QUOTE=Ceegee; 1140185]So is The Bunker the one on the ground floor, as you walk in the hotel entrance, turn right and it is ahead of you at the end of the corridor on the same level as the entrance? This is the place with imports right?

The Terminal name makes sense now, I wondered why they were talking about terminal 1, terminal 2 to go shag in and giving us boarding passes to get out of the place. [/QUOTE]Mate its been around 5 years since I've been to the bunker but it has the imports and also where you have the sauna spa setup. I must have some kiwi in me as I don't indulge in the imports anymore as I always think afterwards 1. 8 jta = 4 double acts and 4 coronas. Besides I'm very bias when it comes to Sundanese girls.

[QUOTE=Ceegee; 1140185]So is The Bunker the one on the ground floor, as you walk in the hotel entrance, turn right and it is ahead of you at the end of the corridor on the same level as the entrance? This is the place with imports right?

The Terminal name makes sense now, I wondered why they were talking about terminal 1, terminal 2 to go shag in and giving us boarding passes to get out of the place. [/QUOTE]The Bunker located in the same area with the spa & massage place in the basement and they open from noon (1pm) till close (1am) , while The Terminal (2nd floor) starting open at night (9pm) till close (4am). So actually the WLs are the same in both places, they just stay in Bunker during daylight and later when Terminal open they'll (esp. The imports, some locals will still hang around the bunker untill it's close) move to Terminal.

Some insights if I may:

My last time to classic htl, I think, was 2-3yrs ago. Now I'd rather go to malioboro, which's actually owned by the same guy who owns classic (happen to know the guy). And from what I've gathered so far, the arrangement works like this: newer girls (local and imports) will be put to work in malioboro first, and if after a while they're gettin less and less customers (because of their look or have worked for long time whatever.) then they will be sent to classic (which charges less then in malioboro).

So if you're looking for newer (younger) wl-s shaggin actions then better you go to malioboro, but if budget is your issue then go to classic.

Hope that helps

[QUOTE=Jritz; 1139384]- in alexis, which was once a haven for the Russian girls, now literally only have 3 or 4 girls only (and not the beautiful ones mind you) and even then I suspect half of them are columbians. So dissapointing.

- in malioboro (which facilities and charge rates below alexis) , suprisingly they have more Russian girls now than alexis (around 5 to 7 girls) and I. M. O. Also reasonably more beautiful than alexis. Not only that, they even have more latin girls (around 8 to 10 girls) which also have better qualities than what you'd find in alexis.

I won't even bother to report what I found in V2.

So I was wondering if there's somewhat shifting of power between Russian and latin girls in general, or maybe all those beautiful Russian girls have moved to some other places that I don't know of. Any thoughts or lights in this matter? [/QUOTE]When I was at Alexis with JAD a couple of months ago, there were no latinas. We asked the Mamasan. There were about 8-10 latinas at Malioboro, and, like you, I didn't spot any attractive Russian women at either places. I believe all the Latinas except one were from Colombia. Colombian hookers are everywhere. I've run across them in Singapore, Bangkok, Mexico, Panama, Mexico and Costa Rica. And from what I've read, they're also in the Caribbean, Europe, Hong Kong and Japan. The group at Malioboro were B-Team, although a couple of weeks later I ran across a couple of Colombian hotties at BRIX in Singapore. They told me they were making a circuit, spending time in various Asian countries and working on their college funds. One of them wanted to hang out with me for free for a couple of days, but I didn't have time. That was a new one for me.

[QUOTE=Bigcebu;1140039]Apartments from US$150 a month, motorbike rental for US$ 2, 50 a day, food for a few cents, a beach.[/QUOTE]How much an apartment with conditioned air costs every week?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Bigcebu;1140039]Tons of Russian hookers (actually from Uzbekistan)[/QUOTE]Are they costing more?

[QUOTE=Bigcebu; 1140039]Tons of Russian hookers (actually from Uzbekistan) , black hookers. In Pattaya.

Apartments from US$150 a month, motorbike rental for US$ 2, 50 a day, food for a few cents, a beach.

For a monger holiday. Nothing beats Pattaya. There is no place in the world where you get a package like that.

Yes, it is pretty boring if you keep going there for many years and really everybody makes holiday there, but for a newbie in Asia it is the place to go. [/QUOTE]Go to Pattaya, where you ought to be. Why think of Jakarta. Pataya is your place.

There is no doubt in my mind that if I were on a 2 week vacation, I would choose Pattaya over Indonesia for mongering. It's cheaper and the girls are so much more available. Jakarta is a good place to live or visit on business trips and monger, but to visit somewhere for a week or two on vacation, Pattaya and Angeles City are the places to hit. Jakarta is a bit expensive relative to the other places and isn't really as convenient for pure mongering.

You can get Uzbek chicks in Jakarta for about 1. 8 million for an hour at Malioboro. (although I heard recently that they raised it to 2 million. Not confirmed).1. 8 million is about $200 USD for one hour.

I haven't taken the Russian chicks in Pattaya, but in Bangkok at CM2, they were asking for 4, 000 to 5, 000 baht which is about $130 to $170 USD to go to the hotel room. I would assume they would be a bit cheaper in Pattaya since the Thai girls are cheaper in Pattaya.

Like Malioboro, Sumo, Stadium, Rajamas, Medika, Rasa Sayang and Athena, King Cross is also a subsidiary company of Raja Group.

At King Cross, local girls are available at 300k and 550k. Dancers (all are locals) are available at 1. 100k. A couple weeks ago I went there with a client and found out PRCs are available at 650k. Papasan F told me they will offer Russians at the same price soon.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1140863]There is no doubt in my mind that if I were on a 2 week vacation, I would choose Pattaya over Indonesia for mongering. It's cheaper and the girls are so much more available. Jakarta is a good place to live or visit on business trips and monger, but to visit somewhere for a week or two on vacation, Pattaya and Angeles City are the places to hit. Jakarta is a bit expensive relative to the other places and isn't really as convenient for pure mongering.[/QUOTE]May be sex in Jakarta is funnier? May be are girls more girlfreindly? May be is it easier to find girls for overnight? May be is it easier to find a sweetheart for one week?

What differences between Jakarta and Pattaya?

Thanks

[QUOTE=FoxesHunter; 1140965]May be sex in Jakarta is funnier? May be are girls more girlfreindly? May be is it easier to find girls for overnight? May be is it easier to find a sweetheart for one week?

What differences between Jakarta and Pattaya?

Thanks[/QUOTE]Gosh I thought Smoothy explained the differences rather well?

[QUOTE=Westcoast1;1141094]Gosh I thought Smoothy explained the differences rather well?[/QUOTE]Not enough. . Why many people go to Jakarta?

[QUOTE=FoxesHunter;1140587]How much an apartment with conditioned air costs every week?[/QUOTE]It depends, start at about 400 Baht a day in the Soi Buakao Area.

Oh my, oh my! Foxeshunter is on the prey again with his fricking questions and the goodhearted members of this forum are fooled again. Me and others have warned you. He only asks those kind of questions and has never contributed. Even when I dared him about Jakarta and Lima (Peru) places he told he has visited. I think he only quotes from FR's and post them like his own experience. He only travels in his fantasies!

[QUOTE=FoxesHunter;1140965]May be sex in Jakarta is funnier?[/QUOTE]Why?

[QUOTE=FoxesHunter;1140965]May be are girls more girlfreindly?[/QUOTE]No.

[QUOTE=FoxesHunter;1140965]May be is it easier to find girls for overnight?[/QUOTE]It is a million times more easy in Pattaya.

[QUOTE=FoxesHunter;1140965]May be is it easier to find a sweetheart for one week?[/QUOTE]It is far more easy (and far cheaper) in Pattaya.

[QUOTE=FoxesHunter;1140965]What differences between Jakarta and Pattaya?[/QUOTE]- Pattaya is cheaper an less anoying.

- Pattaya has no traffic jams for several hours.

- Pattay is on the beach.

- Pattaya is a tourist destination while most tourists avoid Jakarta.

- Pattaya is a monger destination with tenthousands of girls while Jakarta is just a big city with limited mongering opportunities.

- Thai food is far better than Indonesian food.

For a vacation with mongering I would never go to Jakarta.

Okay. I have heard Malioboro is the best in town and the service and lineups are legendary. So it was with great expectations that I chose to try Maliobor instead of the tried and tested Alexis. I think you can guess where the report is going but here goes. BTW, I might have gone to wrong lounge or missed some step but the following is what happened to me this weekend.

Enter the lobby past friendly security guards and valets and you get a plastic bracelet for your locker. Unlike Alexis with fancy-shmancy waterproof RFID bracelets you got the locker key tucked into the sleeved of your bracelet. Go up one floor to the lockers, put your mobiles and wallet etc in and change into khaki color shorts. Now there are three pools facing giant screens; one of the pools has cold water and the others are bubbling warm. Unlike Alexis where you have couples cooing and washing each other this is sausage-only-territory. Actually there's this flowchart etched to wall suggesting you to take the sauna first (after changing in the locker).then the pools-hit the sowers-go upstairs for massage.

Once you have showered you can go upstairs to the landing where there's another lobby; the ladies there directed me to a lounge that was deserted save one old Indonesian guy who was sipping a beer. Across the wide hall I could see the girls milling about. Then a mamasan approaches me and tells me 380, 000 for room+girl. I was surprised to hear Kartika rates in Malioboro and asked her if this was the Malioboro spa. Now I know zero Bahasa and the Mamasan's English wasn't good either. I ask her "Russia?". She says "No Russia". I ask "Arab? Africa", she says "No Arab. No Africa". I ask "Uzbek? Kazhak?" and she says "Yes. 1.8M rupiah". I saw a 'stani across the hallway and no way I was going to pay this much money for that Borat's daughter-cum-niece. Not even if she won 3rd Best Sex in Mouth Award of Kazhakhstan.

I tried to ask her (in english and pantomime) to show the different levels available like they do in Alexis, like Indonesian local, Indonesian model, Thai / PRC and Thai / PRC model but couldn't get through at all. All she did was show four random Indonesian women tagged at 350, 000 out of the multitudes; I simply wasn't shown any more up close. Also, the Mamasan had this impenetrable, stern aura. Something like that landlady in Kung Fu Hustle. Anyway I chose what I perceived to be the best of the four; a late 20s something called Rosa with a nice bod.

Once we were in the room she was so businesslike, proper decorum and all that. When I tried to inch close during the shower she kinda snapped saying "Later". The shower itself was perfunctory, something like washing your terrier. Then came the "body massage" with oil. Apparently the Libyan crisis and Nuclear-Financial meltdowns have hit the management hard and she was very conservative with the oil. The rubdown was with tits only and nothing like the body-body massages you get everywhere. Once things got too boring I asked her to do the BJ.

The rubber pops out of nowhere and I request her to do a BBBJ; the refusal was flat and stern and she started rolling the rubber on the boner immediately.

I understand if the girl is not comfortable with a BBBJ (the ones that refuse plead "No safe meester. Please meester." and I melt instantly) and always do covered FS if I am punting but this kind of response was a big turn off. I took off the rubber and asked her to do just massage. She silently complied and started a pretty decent massage. Cpl of minutes later she asks me if I am angry and I tell her softly "Girls and service in Alexis much better". This girl started engaging me in small talk, apologized repeatedly and suggested FS a cpl of times but I was kinda bummed off by the whole thing. I tell her "it's ok but I won't be tipping you 'because I took no extras" in a neural tone. Took a lonely shower and walked away while she was still dressing. Met the mamasan at the landing who acknowledged me with a slight nod.

Okay, can someone tell me if I did something wrong? Should I have gone to another floor or said some magic words / secret handshakes? Or was it all just due to poor communication or something else like Sunday is day off or something? Well, I am 29 and OK looking (for my ethnicity.) and I click instantly with people but this experience was a big let down. BTW, damages were only 381, 000 and at least I wasn't ripped off. Not going back to Malioboro unless I have some veterans with me or somebody tells me wherei went wrong.

So was in Jakarta last week. Was trying to arrange with JAD but was unable due to work constraints.

Went to colliseum on my own and it is by far one of the most fun places I have seen and been to in a long time. That being said. I saw a lot of the strippers on the 2nd and 3rd floors taht I wanted to take out and not so many in the discoteque.

My question to them was direct are they available and I was told out flat no. Any you guys pull them directly without the pretense of drinking and LD and such?

W.

[QUOTE=Menteng;1141132]Even when I dared him about Jakarta and Lima (Peru) places he told he has visited. I think he only quotes from FR's and post them like his own experience. He only travels in his fantasies![/QUOTE]You are false.

Jejejeje, I have posted 4-5 my experiences about Colombia some days ago. Jejejeje

[QUOTE=Bigcebu;1141127]It depends, start at about 400 Baht a day in the Soi Buakao Area.[/QUOTE]But are they with kitchen? I like to cook some quick meals.

[QUOTE=Menteng;1139531]Medellin is supposed to have the most beautiful women of Colombia. True or not, at least you can find from pitch black to snow white girls / women. Me being an Asian is an advantage here, it tickles their curiosity and opens doors to a possible next level. I'm tempted to say: "like a bule in Jakarta", but without being considered a walking ATM.[/QUOTE]Being Asian is an advantage?:D Now what excuse can I give the Home Minister for travelling to Columbia? Hmmm.

[QUOTE=Bigcebu;1141133]Why? No.
It is a million times more easy in Pattaya.
It is far more easy (and far cheaper) in Pattaya.
- Pattaya is cheaper an less anoying.
- Pattaya has no traffic jams for several hours.
- Pattay is on the beach.
- Pattaya is a tourist destination while most tourists avoid Jakarta.
- Pattaya is a monger destination with tenthousands of girls while Jakarta is just a big city with limited mongering opportunities.
- Thai food is far better than Indonesian food.
For a vacation with mongering I would never go to Jakarta.[/QUOTE]
I think we got the message. Enjoy Pattaya - have a safe trip and take Foxes Hunter with you...:p

[QUOTE=Tenth Legion;1141136] BTW, I might have gone to wrong lounge or missed some step but the following is what happened to me this weekend.

Once you have showered you can go upstairs to the landing where there's another lobby; the ladies there directed me to a lounge that was deserted save one old Indonesian guy who was sipping a beer. Across the wide hall I could see the girls milling about. Then a mamasan approaches me and tells me 380, 000 for room+girl. I was surprised to hear Kartika rates in Malioboro and asked her if this was the Malioboro spa. Now I know zero Bahasa and the Mamasan's English wasn't good either. I ask her "Russia?". She says "No Russia". I ask "Arab? Africa", she says "No Arab. No Africa". I ask "Uzbek? Kazhak?" and she says "Yes. 1.8M rupiah". I saw a 'stani across the hallway and no way I was going to pay this much money for that Borat's daughter-cum-niece. Not even if she won 3rd Best Sex in Mouth Award of Kazhakhstan.

I tried to ask her (in english and pantomime) to show the different levels available like they do in Alexis, like Indonesian local, Indonesian model, Thai / PRC and Thai / PRC model but couldn't get through at all. All she did was show four random Indonesian women tagged at 350, 000 out of the multitudes; I simply wasn't shown any more up close. Also, the Mamasan had this impenetrable, stern aura. Something like that landlady in Kung Fu Hustle. Anyway I chose what I perceived to be the best of the four; a late 20s something called Rosa with a nice bod.

Once we were in the room she was so businesslike, proper decorum and all that. When I tried to inch close during the shower she kinda snapped saying "Later". The shower itself was perfunctory, something like washing your terrier. Then came the "body massage" with oil. Apparently the Libyan crisis and Nuclear-Financial meltdowns have hit the management hard and she was very conservative with the oil. The rubdown was with tits only and nothing like the body-body massages you get everywhere. Once things got too boring I asked her to do the BJ.

The rubber pops out of nowhere and I request her to do a BBBJ; the refusal was flat and stern and she started rolling the rubber on the boner immediately.

I understand if the girl is not comfortable with a BBBJ (the ones that refuse plead "No safe meester. Please meester." and I melt instantly) and always do covered FS if I am punting but this kind of response was a big turn off. I took off the rubber and asked her to do just massage. She silently complied and started a pretty decent massage. Cpl of minutes later she asks me if I am angry and I tell her softly "Girls and service in Alexis much better". This girl started engaging me in small talk, apologized repeatedly and suggested FS a cpl of times but I was kinda bummed off by the whole thing. I tell her "it's ok but I won't be tipping you 'because I took no extras" in a neural tone. Took a lonely shower and walked away while she was still dressing. Met the mamasan at the landing who acknowledged me with a slight nod.

Okay, can someone tell me if I did something wrong? Should I have gone to another floor or said some magic words / secret handshakes? Or was it all just due to poor communication or something else like Sunday is day off or something? Well, I am 29 and OK looking (for my ethnicity.) and I click instantly with people but this experience was a big let down. BTW, damages were only 381, 000 and at least I wasn't ripped off. Not going back to Malioboro unless I have some veterans with me or somebody tells me wherei went wrong.[/QUOTE]
It's difficult to comment without witnessing first hand what actually happened from a neutral standpoint. There are however two lounges at Malioboro - one being the cheaper lounge (the one you walked into) and the other with the more expensive and imported girls. When I went, both lounges had a wide variety to choose from, so I am puzzled by the lack of choice presented to you. What time of the day did you go there? Your lack of communication doesn't help matters. i always find that a little banter goes a long way to making things more comfortable and obtaining the all important (at least to me) GFE.

Incidentally, I'll be in town from Tuesday to Friday for a bit of work and a lot of "stress management" :D

MD II

[QUOTE=Wolfy187; 1141145]My question to them was direct are they available and I was told out flat no. Any you guys pull them directly without the pretense of drinking and LD and such?

W. [/QUOTE]If you intend to book a stripper (for st or lt) actually you can ask their agent (s) about them. Those agents are quite easy to spot if you really look enough, or you can ask the waiters (tip'them please) to introduce you to them.

Got to remind you though, the dancers cost a lot more then the reg wls (as stated by [I]Jakarta After Dark 2[/I], it's around rp1m-1. 5m). And don't ask as if you're a drunk or something, do ask seriously. Had you asked the dancer nicely and showed serious intention to book her, and if you're charming enough, I'm sure they could even make some "cheaper arrangements after work" for you, or at least point you to their agent.

Master Diver II,

I know Colombia very fine and if you ask me some questions I will happy to reply you. Being Asian you will get advantage if you only have moeny to spend. Like in every other country. I can tell you Colombia is wonderful because there are wonderful and cheap girls.
Medellin is the best option because it is a big town but also Cali (with more dark complexion), Pereira, Bucaramanga, Barranquilla, etc. etc. I know every town of Colombia and every town has a different characteristic.

[QUOTE=Bigcebu; 1141133]Why?

No.

It is a million times more easy in Pattaya.

It is far more easy (and far cheaper) in Pattaya.

- Pattaya is cheaper an less anoying.

- Pattaya has no traffic jams for several hours.

- Pattay is on the beach.

- Pattaya is a tourist destination while most tourists avoid Jakarta.

- Pattaya is a monger destination with tenthousands of girls while Jakarta is just a big city with limited mongering opportunities.

- Thai food is far better than Indonesian food.

For a vacation with mongering I would never go to Jakarta. [/QUOTE]Mate, I agree with you on those facts. However, you seem forgot to mention one last fact:

- In Pattaya, they have more "impossible-to-tell shemales". In fact around 25% of the so-called WLs in Thai are shemales (which with their natural smooth complexions and better crossover surgery makes it almost impossible, esp. For non-asian foreigners, to differ). So say you've fucked 4 wls in Pattaya, there's a good chance that 1 one of them is (or was) actually a male. And if you've stayed for mongering holidays in Pattaya for 1 month, then do make your own calculation.

Good luck.

To Tenth Legion.

At what time did you go there? The wls will start working around 1pm, even then some will only start showing around 4pm. So for best time to go there is around 4 to 5 pm.

Also, in malioboro they have mamasans that actually speak decent english. You can ask for "mandy" +62818119136, or "sammy" +6285814398166. Tell them you're a friend of Ben from Singapore, I'm sure they'll be happy to assist you with whatever you need.

Regards

[QUOTE=Wolfy187; 1141145]So was in Jakarta last week. Was trying to arrange with JAD but was unable due to work constraints.

Went to colliseum on my own and it is by far one of the most fun places I have seen and been to in a long time. That being said. I saw a lot of the strippers on the 2nd and 3rd floors taht I wanted to take out and not so many in the discoteque.

My question to them was direct are they available and I was told out flat no. Any you guys pull them directly without the pretense of drinking and LD and such?

W. [/QUOTE][QUOTE=Jritz; 1141320]If you intend to book a stripper (for st or lt) actually you can ask their agent (s) about them. Those agents are quite easy to spot if you really look enough, or you can ask the waiters (tip'them please) to introduce you to them.

Got to remind you though, the dancers cost a lot more then the reg wls (as stated by [I]Jakarta After Dark 2[/I], it's around rp1m-1. 5m). And don't ask as if you're a drunk or something, do ask seriously. Had you asked the dancer nicely and showed serious intention to book her, and if you're charming enough, I'm sure they could even make some "cheaper arrangements after work" for you, or at least point you to their agent. [/QUOTE]9 out of 10 dancers at upmarket spas are not available while 9 out of 10 dancers at bordellos are available. Unlike agencies supplying dancers to upmarket spas and nightclubs, agencies supplying dancers to bordellos recruit talents who are willing to do more than just stripping.

The dancers cost Rp. 1,300k at upmarket spas and Rp. 1,100k at bordellos.

50k tequila shot (I think it's a lemon tea) is for topless lap dancing (you can touch). 100k-150k lady's drink is for sitting next to you and tell you how good looking you are.

[QUOTE=Master Diver II; 1141319]Being Asian is an advantage. Now what excuse can I give the Home Minister for travelling to Columbia? Hmmm.

MD II[/QUOTE]Exploring new markets for your product or ask brother Panya what excuse he used to come here ;)

Thanks for the responses Jritz and Master Diver II.

Guess I walked into the wrong lounge. There was another door on that floor and perhaps that led to the "money room". I'll check out the other lounge, speak to the mamasans named and go for the girl wih a real smile / twinkle in her eye other than the one with the perfect a$$. Got to work on my bahasa too.

BTW, I went at 7:00 PM Sunday. It was kinda deserted with only 4-5 clients.

Oh, I did NOT end that night in this sour note. I walked a brisk mile to Star Massage for a quick one and it was chock full of girls and a sizable number of clients. This time tried a new girl called Nieken who has a nice bod, clean, gave pretty good service (not GFE though). Good eye contact during the deed too. Would have gone for my regular there if they had turned up that night.

Only one thing kinda puts me off at the Kota Knock Shops: from evening there are little kids playing right in front of the parlors watching as men come and go, seeing the girls soliciting and all. Well, not as bad as Sonaganchi or Tijuana or the other Red Light Areas of the world but still kinda difficult to walk into such an establishment while a 10 yr old kid is looking at you with a frayed old football in hand. Kinda beyond the walk of "shame" thing, eh?

[QUOTE=Jritz; 1141435]Mate, I agree with you on those facts. However, you seem forgot to mention one last fact:

- In Pattaya, they have more "impossible-to-tell shemales". In fact around 25% of the so-called WLs in Thai are shemales (which with their natural smooth complexions and better crossover surgery makes it almost impossible, esp. For non-asian foreigners, to differ). So say you've fucked 4 wls in Pattaya, there's a good chance that 1 one of them is (or was) actually a male. And if you've stayed for mongering holidays in Pattaya for 1 month, then do make your own calculation.

Good luck. [/QUOTE]Most bars have it's ladyboy, but that makes still less than 5% of the working girls (or things). And most of them aren't good looking. Maybe 0, 5% are really look like good looking girls, but you still notice it very quick when you talk with one. I fucked 100s of girls in Pattaya and I seriously doubt that I ever fucked a ladyboy.

[QUOTE=Bigcebu;1141585]Most bars have it's ladyboy, but that makes still less than 5% of the working girls (or things). And most of them aren't good looking. Maybe 0, 5% are really look like good looking girls, but you still notice it very quick when you talk with one. I fucked 100s of girls in Pattaya and I seriously doubt that I ever fucked a ladyboy.[/QUOTE]First of all, I meant no harm about my statement. Just stating a fact, and gentle warning.

I didn't mean about ladyboy or shemale, I was talking about those who had done "complete" sex reassignment surgery (SRS). They won't stand in the ladyboy / shemale line, they will joining the WLs line.

Facts:

- Thai is now considered the center of world sex reassignment. Their hospitals and surgeons are among the best in the world (for just a country in South East Asia, Thai is on par with US and Canada for the best and most skilled sex reassignment surgeries). Feel free to do your own research, it's just a wikipedia away.

- For an asian country with population just around 60m, how do you think Thai can beat China (population 1, 3 billion) for their transgender reputation and ranks 1 in all Asia for the [B]most[/B] People who's undergone the sex reassignment operations?

- Tell me how can you be that confident to tell the differences of wls who's undergone the SRS or not, while even the thai people themselves can't really tell the difference? FYI, I'm of Chinese-indonesian origin and I have some good friends who're native Thais. They actually the ones who warned me about this stuff, and have experienced it first-hand with these so-called "ladies" themselves. Now if the native Thai themselves can be fooled, how much chance would a foreigner (esp westerner) coming first time to Thai have?

- Just for an eye opener, take a look at this Official Thailand Medical Tourism Cluster's Blog:

[url]http://thailandmedicaltourismcluster.wordpress.com/2011/01/20/they-are-all-males/[/url]

Again, I'm just stating this as a precaution (among all the better things you've mentioned about Pattaya compared to Jakarta) to fellow mongerers visiting Pattaya (or Thai in general) so not to just go blindly shaggin all the ladies they met, and I absolutely has nothing against Thai people or anything.

And again, good luck.

[QUOTE=Jritz; 1141634]First of all, I meant no harm about my statement. Just stating a fact, and gentle warning.

I didn't mean about ladyboy or shemale, I was talking about those who had done "complete" sex reassignment surgery (SRS). They won't stand in the ladyboy / shemale line, they will joining the WLs line.

Facts:

- Thai is now considered the center of world sex reassignment. Their hospitals and surgeons are among the best in the world (for just a country in South East Asia, Thai is on par with US and Canada for the best and most skilled sex reassignment surgeries). Feel free to do your own research, it's just a wikipedia away.

- For an asian country with population just around 60m, how do you think Thai can beat China (population 1, 3 billion) for their transgender reputation and ranks 1 in all Asia for the [B]most[/B] People who's undergone the sex reassignment operations?

- Tell me how can you be that confident to tell the differences of wls who's undergone the SRS or not, while even the thai people themselves can't really tell the difference? FYI, I'm of Chinese-indonesian origin and I have some good friends who're native Thais. They actually the ones who warned me about this stuff, and have experienced it first-hand with these so-called "ladies" themselves. Now if the native Thai themselves can be fooled, how much chance would a foreigner (esp westerner) coming first time to Thai have?

- Just for an eye opener, take a look at this Official Thailand Medical Tourism Cluster's Blog:

[url]http://thailandmedicaltourismcluster.wordpress.com/2011/01/20/they-are-all-males/[/url]

Again, I'm just stating this as a precaution (among all the better things you've mentioned about Pattaya compared to Jakarta) to fellow mongerers visiting Pattaya (or Thai in general) so not to just go blindly shaggin all the ladies they met, and I absolutely has nothing against Thai people or anything.

And again, good luck. [/QUOTE]Guaranteed a good blowjob thats for sure but one you wouldn't be telling your mates. Hehehehe

[QUOTE=Bigcebu;1141585]Most bars have it's ladyboy, but that makes still less than 5% of the working girls (or things). And most of them aren't good looking. Maybe 0, 5% are really look like good looking girls, but you still notice it very quick when you talk with one. I fucked 100s of girls in Pattaya and I seriously doubt that I ever fucked a ladyboy.[/QUOTE]Back in Jakarta, a lot of Blok M clubs have a policy of keeping them out. And if a drunken customer straight off the plane can't tell the difference, the other girls sure can. A word to the security guy and they are history.

Lucky enough to be in Jakarta for business on Monday. Having discovered the delights of Jakarta in 2010 I have always wanted to go back. I thought I would depart from Alexis my usual haunt and I'm glad I did.

Took a taxi to Maliboro spa at about 11. 30pm. Walked past the driveway and greeted by some guards who directed me in through a door on the right. 120, 000 for admission, you pay at the end. Stuck on my wristband and walked through the doorway and the sight that I was met with left me with my mouth wide open. Beautiful dancers on a stage in the middle of the room. I took a seat near the stage and sat transfixed as many really beautiful girls danced away, showing their tits and eventually stripping naked. It was amazing, had a great time.

Apart from the dancers on the stage the room is filled with girls who basically come around and touch you to start conversation. They talk and flirt with you. Kiss, you can see and fondle tits and in return you buy girl drinks. Frankly, I was too busy looking at the beauties on the dance stage to care much about these girls though some of them were decent.

I noticed an upper floor which looked like a viewing gallery which seemed to offer better views. I went up and noticed some private seating areas with curtains. Some guys take the dancers and chat and feel them up here.

Now, I reaally wanted a few of these dancers but really didn't know how to go about it? Are the dancers available? Anyone had any success here?

Had a good couple of hours and then went to VS which was rubbish a few ok girls pole dancing in poor surroundings.

So though I didn't fuck I will definately go back and try if someone can advise. The best thing from my short trip was meeting a really beautiful 24 year old jakarta girl, really pretty with a killer body. Recently finished university. Had a good time with her and I am working on making her my sweet freebie when I go back soon. Pretty confident from the signals I was getting.

I will be back in Jarkata next week is the Emporiurm still open, I know it was raided 2 yr ago and closed didn't check it out on my last trip see if it was reopen.

Fast Eddie 48

Here's the deal in Malio Club also known as Malioboro Club

Located in the same building as the Spa is the Malioboro Club.

Malio Club is open from 2100 until 0400 the next morning.

Its tha best place in Jakarta.

To enter Malio you have to pay 121, 000 rupiahs.

Entertainment comes in the form of sexy dancers starting from 2100hrs and every 30 minutes a different group takes over. The dancers do more dancing here than those you see at the spa. IMHO, they are also prettier and serious in their "performance". The dancers are fully cloth at the begining and as the minutes pass by, pieces after pieces are removed. However the fully naked performances are after 12midnight where the g-string is also removed.

The club is a good place to relax and entertain. There are local FL on the take and the price is between 800. 1.2mil rupiahs. Quality is good too. A small pool of local fashion models are also available but it cost 2. 25mil rupiahs. But I wouldn't go for any of them as I find the standard below par. Imports are available but they the same group you see at the spa.

The sexy dancers, some are also available at 1. 3mil rupiahs.

The sexy dancers main source of income is the LD that customers buy at

50K per glass for them. The girl will approach the customer and if agreed, she will climb up your lap and give up a lap dance while exhorting you to squeeze her boobs while she consume the glass of sprite / tequila. The girl receives 20% commission for every glass.

Enjoy the good life

[QUOTE=Blacka0; 1142255]Here's the deal in Malio Club also known as Malioboro Club

Located in the same building as the Spa is the Malioboro Club.

Malio Club is open from 2100 until 0400 the next morning.

Its tha best place in Jakarta.

To enter Malio you have to pay 121, 000 rupiahs.

Entertainment comes in the form of sexy dancers starting from 2100hrs and every 30 minutes a different group takes over. The dancers do more dancing here than those you see at the spa. IMHO, they are also prettier and serious in their "performance". The dancers are fully cloth at the begining and as the minutes pass by, pieces after pieces are removed. However the fully naked performances are after 12midnight where the g-string is also removed.

The club is a good place to relax and entertain. There are local FL on the take and the price is between 800. 1.2mil rupiahs. Quality is good too. A small pool of local fashion models are also available but it cost 2. 25mil rupiahs. But I wouldn't go for any of them as I find the standard below par. Imports are available but they the same group you see at the spa.

The sexy dancers, some are also available at 1. 3mil rupiahs.

The sexy dancers main source of income is the LD that customers buy at

50K per glass for them. The girl will approach the customer and if agreed, she will climb up your lap and give up a lap dance while exhorting you to squeeze her boobs while she consume the glass of sprite / tequila. The girl receives 20% commission for every glass.

Enjoy the good life[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. SO I guess those are ST rates? And rooms in same building?

I'll try and go for some of the better looking dancers I saw last time, you said some are available so take it others are not available?

I'm back in Jakarta Wednesday and can't wait to hit Malio again. Anyone care to join let me know.

Just curious if anyone has had any luck in loewy or the dragon fly?

[QUOTE=Mc Don;1142596]Just curious if anyone has had any luck in loewy or the dragon fly?[/QUOTE]Loewy is a place where you can find party girls at the bar when their husbands are out of town. They are late 20's, early to late 30's, well taken care of and married but will go home with you if you are young and good looking or if you offer them enough money to make it worth their while.

Dragon Fly has those same girls, but also has some younger girls. Mostly girls who consider themselves too good to go to places like Blok M. These girls are just as likely to go home with an indo guy as a bule guy and prefer the young guys and will go for free. Money isn't as much of an object. But there are a few girls who happen in there who are hard core hookers and will go with you for a decent price.

Either place is pretty much a waste of time if you are over 50. But there are exceptions.

Thank you. I will give it a shot next time I am in town. One gal I have known for a while sort of mentioned the places this is where she hangs around with her friends. They are exactly what you described. Rich spoiled brats in their late 20's some married some not good looking and sort of "pretending" not to be interested when they really are. They all "hate" the hot spots as there are plenty of DOM (dirty old man) there. LOL.

[QUOTE=Smoothy; 1142802]Loewy is a place where you can find party girls at the bar when their husbands are out of town. They are late 20's, early to late 30's, well taken care of and married but will go home with you if you are young and good looking or if you offer them enough money to make it worth their while.

Dragon Fly has those same girls, but also has some younger girls. Mostly girls who consider themselves too good to go to places like Blok M. These girls are just as likely to go home with an indo guy as a bule guy and prefer the young guys and will go for free. Money isn't as much of an object. But there are a few girls who happen in there who are hard core hookers and will go with you for a decent price.

Either place is pretty much a waste of time if you are over 50. But there are exceptions. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Faaris; 1142475]Thanks for the info. SO I guess those are ST rates? And rooms in same building?

I'll try and go for some of the better looking dancers I saw last time, you said some are available so take it others are not available?

I'm back in Jakarta Wednesday and can't wait to hit Malio again. Anyone care to join let me know. [/QUOTE]Yes these are ST rates just 1 hour all in and the rooms are in the same building and yes not all of the dancers are avaible but you can always aks the mamasan if you want to be very sure.

I'm posting this in the Jakarta thread because its a Q about the Jakarta airport (Soekarno-Hatta).

Maybe I should try to post it in some travelforum instead, but I'm taking a chance anyway.

Sometimes when I pass Bankok I get a small amount of painkillers and sleepingpills (about 10 of each) , on prescription from a hospital. Its all about an old accident I had. Well however when I read about Jakarta customs and the druglaws in Indonesia I'm getting the feeling that it can be some problems if they catch me with these medications in my bag, even if it is a small amount. How strict is it? Does anybody had some problems with anything like this or for example porn etc? Viagra? Bringing my laptop also but I have time to clean it before I go.

Primo Bolan

[QUOTE=Primo Bolan; 1145088]I'm posting this in the Jakarta thread because its a Q about the Jakarta airport (Soekarno-Hatta).

Maybe I should try to post it in some travelforum instead, but I'm taking a chance anyway.

Sometimes when I pass Bankok I get a small amount of painkillers and sleepingpills (about 10 of each) , on prescription from a hospital. Its all about an old accident I had. Well however when I read about Jakarta customs and the druglaws in Indonesia I'm getting the feeling that it can be some problems if they catch me with these medications in my bag, even if it is a small amount. How strict is it? Does anybody had some problems with anything like this or for example porn etc? Viagra? Bringing my laptop also but I have time to clean it before I go.

Primo Bolan[/QUOTE]Bro, not to worry on that. You know why? Because I'm a frequent flyer to Jakarta and normally I bring my Synflex 550mg (one strip 20 pills) and Xanax (one strip 12 pills) with doctors prescription. Normally I just put inside hand luggage. Normally Indonesian customs only check on the cargo luggages. With the prescription, there is no problem at all. Unless you showed them that you are shivering during the custom inspection. Relax bro, nothing will happen. It was just a law.

Br,

Fish

[QUOTE=Primo Bolan; 1145088]I'm posting this in the Jakarta thread because its a Q about the Jakarta airport (Soekarno-Hatta).

Maybe I should try to post it in some travelforum instead, but I'm taking a chance anyway.

Sometimes when I pass Bankok I get a small amount of painkillers and sleepingpills (about 10 of each) , on prescription from a hospital. Its all about an old accident I had. Well however when I read about Jakarta customs and the druglaws in Indonesia I'm getting the feeling that it can be some problems if they catch me with these medications in my bag, even if it is a small amount. How strict is it? Does anybody had some problems with anything like this or for example porn etc? Viagra? Bringing my laptop also but I have time to clean it before I go.

Primo Bolan[/QUOTE]PB I would not worry. As long as the prescriptions are clearly marked you will not have a problem. Even with over the counter they rarely check unless they are super bored.

As far as the laptop porn is concerned I would not worry. Zip file it and send it to your email. I hate to see a man lose his porn. The most I think they would do is ask you to power on any electronic device. To see if it is functioning.

I would be more concerned if they opended my suitcase and found my toys I bring for extra curricular activities. Could be quite embarrassing. But a mans got to play

Thanks both Vagetarian and Fisherman! It meant alot. PB

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[QUOTE=FoxesHunter; 1140965]May be sex in Jakarta is funnier? May be are girls more girlfreindly? May be is it easier to find girls for overnight? May be is it easier to find a sweetheart for one week?

What differences between Jakarta and Pattaya?

Thanks[/QUOTE]I've been passing through Jakarta 4-6 times a year for almost 20 years, and there have only been 3 girls who didn't want to spend the night, and one of those backed out of that night because my hotel was too far away and she wanted to be at home when her daughter woke up, but came in the afternoon and stayed until 10pm. Another was an afternoon assignation with a dangdut singer who was being picked up by her mother after her evening performance. The other time was 3 girls. It was quite early and I think they went back out on the prowl.

I don't know, but I doubt, that my experience is unusual. I've always got the feeling that most girls wouldn't be that happy if I asked them to leave in the middle of the night. Some leave early in the morning to get back to their kids, some leave later and see their kids after school. The ones without kids: depends on whether they work, don't work, how tired they are, etc. And some don't look like leaving unless you make it plain that you need some downtime.

so this is going to be my first report on my last trip to jakarta, apr 14 to 17. since it was rather massive i shall tell it in two parts.

a little bg about myself: i'm a 32 yo indo-chinese. i don't come from or live in jakarta however. for some time now i've taken residence in singapore (mostly) , and also in bintan-batam area. i never do any mongering in singapore though, for obvious reasons: i don't shit where i eat. so far my mongering activities were done in south east asia (mostly indonesia, vietnam, thai) and china (macau and taiwan incld).

thu, apr 14.

took early flight from spore and arrived at jakarta around 11. 00am local time. picked up by business colleagues and straight away swept to lunch followed by other boring business stuffs.

around 5pm, after finished all the business craps, someone suggested it's time to take me out for 'entertainments'. now these are what the so-called business entertainments for chinese, japanese, and korean always consists: spa, dinner, and karaoke (not always in the same order). and the thing about it, the acting host will always insist on paying all the accommodations (it's got to do with honor or sumthing) , and since i'm the acting guest, it's definitely a good thing for me. so we (5 guys) went to sun city spa (8th floor) at glodok area. i've been there couple of times but was still amazed by their luxurious spa facilities (and free foods!). all of my colleagues took prc therapists and recommended one for me too, but i wanted local (for a good massage always go with local therapists). so i talked to the local gro and tipped her 50k to find a therapist in accordance to my likings (lean, pretty and young). went to the room, i was blown away, the therapist was just what she promised, ddg and model material. her name is hesti, around 21yo; tag number is 78 by the way (if you decided to meet her). anyway, her massage was quite good and we had lively conversations during the session. after bathing i asked for other services she might provide, and she replied that she doesn't offer it with just anybody (right.) , but she'll perform cfs with me for rp800k. i quickly consented, because i didn't want to break the overall atmosphere, i wanted a making love experience, not just some duty-call fj. and it really paid off. she let me cim first, and patiently fondled me again to build the game for our big finale (had to add another session time though). after extra-session done, i asked if she'the go out with me to have some fun (movie, dinner, clubbing, whatever.). she said she'the love to and gave me her cell number (can't share the number sorry) , and told me she'the be free around 9pm. i said i was occupied for the night, but i might ask her out for some other nights. she said to call her anytime and we finished the session in a happy note.

around 7. 30pm we decided to have dinner at 5th floor chinese resto and later karaoke on the 6th floor. so basically for time-saving reason, we would complete our business entertainment in sun city.

around 8. 30pm we hit the karaoke room (reserved already by the host apparently) , and shortly brought before us was long line ups of prc lcs. this place only has local lcs (600k) and prc lcs (1m) , top quality though i must say. mind you that the rate's just to accompany you during karaoke time only, and not all the lcs (local or prc) available for 'additional services'. some are always available (ask the mamasan first) and some would only decide upon meeting with the client. my host for the night seemed to have made arrangements with a prc mamasan, and shortly after entering the room a long line up of prcs was brought before us. i had the honor to pick first and so i chose a lovely lady in short black name mimi as my companion for the night. she's just gorgeous and strangely not chinese-like, maybe just 20yo, sweet dimple, big round eyes, tall (170 with shoes off) and claimed she came from sichuan area, overall definitely my type. thus the karaoke course began. a karaoke course usually consists: drinking, singing, a lot of laughing (occasionally crying) , drinking games (dices or hands) , and some might involve using of happy pills (or even drugs). but that night i specifically asked not to. after having somewhat a fun perverted guys bonding time and finishing 2 black labels, we all gladly called it time to go (around 11. 30 i guess). and while the other guys started to get it together i noticed that none of them were taking home their lcs (most i understand were married and had to go back to their families, and others because their lcs refused to follow them back). now i had a bit of dilemma, mimi had been hinting all night long that she wanted to follow me back for further 'activities', but i don't want the other guys to see me taking her out (i esp. didn't feel good if my host knew and then insisted on paying the whole deal). so i made excuse to my friends saying i wanted to wind up a bit at the bar on the 6th floor (now that i think about it, sun city really offers one stop entertainment) and made appointment for tomorrow noon to further meetings. so i sit in the bar with mimi, enjoying the live music and she told me to wait until 1am till her working time finished and then i could take her out. apparently if i take her out during her working time, i have to pay / open vouchers for her for around rp. 3 to 4m (later she told me that she didn't want her mamasan and friends come to think that she's available for booking out, because if you opened voucher one time to a girl for booking out, next time around the girl cannot refuse if other customers wanted to book her out). and she wanted her 'freewill' option to stay open and said she only went out with me because she liked me (really.). so around 1am she excused herself to collect her things and to meet me again at the bar's entrance. i was pleased to see her changed to casual black t-shirt and lovely jean, in my opinion she looked absolutely lovelier than the working dress she's been wearing. man if only it wasn't too late and thursday night i definitely would love to take her around town for proper date, maybe dinner and clubbing. instead we went back to my hotel and ordered some hot tea and food to brush the whiskey off the system a bit and to fill the gas. we started with a nice fooling around, that led to a passionate kiss, and burning sex. we did two rounds that night, first time was done half and half. the second time was much (much) rougher, we explored more positions before erupted in doggy style. in the end we slept cuddling, naked and out of breath. and so end of day 1 for me.

fri, apr 15.

woke up around 8. 30am. got minor headache from whiskey and lack of sleep from last night activities. xing yu still slept very soundly and she looked just as gorgeous as last night (i was secretly scared that all of her gorgeousness was just some alcohol tricks). decided to take a shower and planned for breakfast later because i got appointments started at 11, and i planned to let mimi sleep until 10 (since she told me she usually wake-up around 11 or 12am because her working hours) but while i was showering guess who decided to wake and joined in. so we started rubbing each other's bodies and moved our way to another f-round in the bathtub. afterward we both felt very hungry and decided to take breakfast first before i sent her back to sun city. believe it or not, she never mentioned to me even once about payments, or gifts or taxi fares. nonetheless i decided to put $300 (thinking that's around what'the cost me had i taken her via open-vouchers in sun city anyway) in an envelope and gave it to her, which she took without even looked inside and kissed my cheek. she really impressed me that way. we changed contact (still now) and promised to meet again on my next visit (she texted me however that she'd be back to china end of this month).

a pic of mimi.

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around 4pm i finished all the business nonsense and politely rejected another 'business entertainment' they offered, saying i was tired-not feeling well-excuses. in fact, i already made another plan for tonight, which was taking a night tour with jad (known as jakarta after dark 2 in the isg).

around 7pm we met at the hotel (i was surprised to see him as much as he surprised to see me i reckoned) and had a little briefing over dinner. around 9. 30pm after contended with dinner and introductory we decided to start our tour at the blok m bars area. it was still early though and things a pretty much quiet. according to jad these places will come to a full erect (pun intended) around 12pm up to closing time around 3-4am. it was okay since this is my first tour and i only want to know the mongering places and not come to look for wls. so we went first to a cozy small bar opposite to top gun (forgot the name of the bar) , grabbed a beer and observed the place a bit. during our observation, we somewhat discussed about differences in girl's taste / type between asian (esp. yellow skins like me) and westerner mongerers. in that bar i only found one girl (dancer) that somewhat interested me, the rest i must say were downright ugly (for my taste anyway). and after we checked on the other bars (incld top gun) i concluded that's true, because jad told me this area (blok m) was somewhat a mongering heaven for the westerners. though i didn't like what the girls have to offer there, i did found the atmosphere was friendly and cozy for hang out to drinks with friends. i also was showed a place in the inner bar area which jad pointed out as a place to have a nice bjs (and sts sometimes) , which were an open lounge so you can share those exp (bjs or sts) with your fellow friends or even strangers. i was flabbergasted because that's definitely something out of my cultural range (we always do our business privately and we don't share playground with other guy or guys). but jad explained to me that it was common business to do at the place and encouraged me to try it for myself, which i quickly declined. i had not reached that level yet i said and wondered if i ever will.

at around 11. 30pm we decided to visit hotel travel. but since it was friday night the place was so packed that we couldn't even get a seat. it was my first time there so i was rather taken aback by the atmospheres and wet market-like system inside. i definitely saw some stunners among the wls though and made a mental note to come back here again tomorrow since now all of them are basically occupied (and even if they're available i hated the thought of there's another fellow's dick inside this v just 5 minutes ago). so we went out after satisfied with sight-seeing and paid absolutely nothing. jad told me that this place is value-for-money and i quickly see that it's true. we decided to kelapa gading area next, to a place called king cross. the place is also packed at the time we went, first floor is for local wls and second floor is for imports wls (prcs) and also has bigger lounge area with complete live music and sexy-dancers. in my opinion the quality of prcs was lower than what'the be found at malioboro (later jad told me that this place is owned by same group that owns malio). i decided just to look around and so we squeezed to seat and enjoying the sexy-dancers. we found some were really still at tender age (jad pointed of one that could be no more than 17). we discussed about my girl's type and i pointed two of the dancers that fall into my category. i asked him whether those dancers would be available for st and he immediately went to ask a papasan (apparently he seemed to know all the people and vice versa). i was told that my first choice wasn't available (she's the only one who's not available actually) but the second one is. so we arranged for a st session with her and told to wait a bit till her stage dancing's over. afterward she came to our seat and whether there was a miscom or not, told me that she's not available but asked me to buy her shot-drinks instead. jad interfered and said no way and later told me that she was trying to hassle me (thanks again jad). we then cancelled the whole thing and went out shortly after.

it was around 0. 30am i think, and i was ready to call it a day but jad wanted to show me one place behind hotel travel. it was some kind of a store-house with wls (around 30 girls, most came from west java) where you pick the one you like for takeout (either st or lt). apparently the wls actually live in this house and when customer came, a guy will call them and lined them up to be picked. from what i saw the girls are just average to below average and maybe occasionally stunners, couldn't really tell since we came rather late and most of them were taken-out already. jad told me however, that they're value for money and their services are guaranteed because they're living in the house and not just random freelancers. the storehouse itself has no sign or board or anything to show that they're in the business (from outside it looked just like ordinary storehouse) , so it's known only from mouth to mouth basis or if you know people-in-the-know like jad. he told me there're many places like this around the area and on another areas of jakarta, but since it was quite late and i was quite sleepy (took a red-bull but not helping) , we decided to finish the tour and hit home.

so i went back to the hotel and communicated with a guy (fisherman in isg forum) who provides high-class models / artists for escort services. i picked one of his model selections and the appointment was set for 2pm tomorrow. i ended the night alone but since i'm tired i saw it as a welcomed rest (i got a packed day ahead anyway) and thus ended day 2 for me.

(continued to part 2.)

"So I went back to the hotel and communicated with a guy (fisherman in ISG forum) who provides high-class models / artists for escort services. I picked one of his model selections and the appointment was set for 2pm tomorrow. I ended the night alone but since I'm tired I saw it as a welcomed rest (I got a packed day ahead anyway) and thus ended day 2 for me."

Well that's one very good report Jrits I usually only go to Alexis because of the high level but reading your report wants me to check out sun city too. So what are the prices of Fisherman model selections I'm very curious you can also pm if you don't want to post it.

Thanks in advance

I was in Jarkata for business last week for a few days, frist night when to Kartrika and King Cross.

I'll second that Blacka, great report Jritz, thanks.

[QUOTE=Jritz;1148206]So this is going to be my first report on my last trip to Jakarta, Apr 14 to 17. Since it was rather massive I shall tell it in two parts. (continued to part 2.)[/QUOTE]Awsome report! Well done.

Comprehensive and appreciated the photo too, to put a face to the report! .

[QUOTE=Blacka0; 1148362]"So I went back to the hotel and communicated with a guy (fisherman in ISG forum) who provides high-class models / artists for escort services. I picked one of his model selections and the appointment was set for 2pm tomorrow. I ended the night alone but since I'm tired I saw it as a welcomed rest (I got a packed day ahead anyway) and thus ended day 2 for me."

Well that's one very good report Jrits I usually only go to Alexis because of the high level but reading your report wants me to check out sun city too. So what are the prices of Fisherman model selections I'm very curious you can also pm if you don't want to post it.

Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]The price I heard quoted was Rps 10 million for 2 hours (1 or 2 shots). You can check out his details in the Classified section.

MD II

Hi All, just came back from a SEA trip. Also spent 3 nights in Jakarta. Great as usual. Met a girl called Nora in Bats (yes I know this old bad place. But since I usually stay only 2-3 nights at a time, I go to the place which are familiar to me). Anyway, she is a real good looking girl and I spent 2 nights with her. She is good fun to go out. And in. Missed the achance to take a picture.

I went also to Mailboro. But too croweded on a Saturday night. Later on Sunday I spent some time in Crown massage parlour. Did not make a good pick. But what can you do. Booked a pachakge and by the time I entered the room the girl told me to start with that and then that. At the end, I found all these extras on the bill although not ordered and not mentioned before treatment. Refused to pay. And got away with it. So watch out this place.

Same happened to my local (I invited him) however, he did not complain and I gues it was his commission for the next treatment for free.

[QUOTE=Master Diver II; 1148717]The price I heard quoted was Rps 10 million for 2 hours (1 or 2 shots). You can check out his details in the Classified section.

MD II[/QUOTE]Yeah, he have an ST after engage with me. Below is the model that he took. Anyway, just wait for the second part from him.

[QUOTE=Blacka0; 1148362]"o what are the prices of Fisherman model selections I'm very curious you can also pm if you don't want to post it.

Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]Why don't you contact Fisherman directly? I'm sure he'll be glad to cooperate.

sat, apr 16.

woke up around 8. 30 refreshed and ready to go. during breakfast i was contacted by fisherman, he apologized and said that our appointment had to be rescheduled to 6pm due to the girl still had photo sessions. i consented and then went out to plaza senayan (ps) to buy books during which time i was ringed by an old friend who apparently found out that i was in town. he later came to meet me at ps for lunch and after some idle talks later insisted to introduce me to a model / artist friend of him that's also available for 'escorting services'. i said okay and the appointment was then set for tomorrow, sunday 11am (since i had flight sched back to spore at 3. 50).

around 1. 30pm i decided to visit hotel travel and arrived around 2pm. thankfully the place was still quiet but the downside was there're also still not many wls around for work (i suspect because most still recovering from busy night before) , in the first lounge i think only saw 10 girls were sitting on the sofas. however, in the second lounge there're more girls already so i chose to settle there. there're two groups of girls and i was approached by one mamasan whom i thought was a psychic since without even asking about my type she quickly delivered one girl that i couldn't refuse. her name's natalie, at most 21yo, not tall but very firm, and extremely cute. we sat down, ordered drinks and had a lively talk (apparently she didn't come to work last night-my luck) after a point when she proposed me to take the 2-girls package for 450k (she later also explained there're 3-girls package for 600k and 4-girls package for 800k! holy cow!). so we then agreed (yes, we) to take her friend named iin or icha (not too sure) to fill up our little formation. this girl was also still quite young (claimed just started working for 2 mth) , not as pretty but still selling, and nice body (later i found out also better at service). so we three headed for the room (i choose the spacious ex karaoke room one) , started to undress and head for shower where they both gently washed my body (got hard on already) and afterward led me to the bed. i was then told to 'enjoy aja', so i just laid down and they started licking my body down. damn, i still remember till now the feel of those two tongues on my deedee. they both took the turn for bbbjs and afterward iin decided to climb on me first, she was very wet already and after a while we changed position to doggy style while natalie kept on licking and rubbing to fill the gap. since amazingly i still didn't come (i didn't know why and i swear that i never took enhancements) , iin gave the turn up to natalie and the roles switched. i changed glove first and started missionary style with natalie followed by her back riding me, after a while we switched to doggie. at a point, seeing that i still couldn't come, iin suggested me to switchback and do anal on her, which i refused (not my cup of tea). instead me and natalie switched back to missionary (after changed glove again) and at last i reached for the big o. afterward we head to shower again and they commented how pale i looked like, esp. on the lips area (i guess i got dehydrated a bit). we got dressed and i tipped each of them rp150k. i left and paid at the cashier maybe around rp750k incld drinks. really value-for-money!

*didn't take any pics but you can visit them at hotel travel second lounge.

reached hotel around 4. 30pm, showered, took a little rest, and got ready for my 6pm appointment. around 6. 30pm they finally came, and i came down to fetch the girl at the lobby. got to say i had some reservations about the whole deal before, but when i saw her i was at ease. she didn't look exactly what she looked in the pics (which i'm sure must've been smudged up) , but i'the say 80% of it are hers truly. her name was ndy, i guessed around 24yo, not too much make-up as i would expect from a model, natural beauty, brown but silky skin, perfect rags, big round eyes, and 100% a babe. in person she kind of reminded me to a little crush i had with a classmate back in my college time. shortly i took her back to my room and offered something to drink. she chose still water, and then we chatted a bit. for some reasons, i found her much more nervous than i was. she said she was shy and her english's not very good. i then made a joke in bahasa and surprised her to death because she thought i don't understand bahasa (that and also the fact that she was talking rather funny-but-sweet remarks about me before with her agent when first meeting me at the lobby hehe). after that the atmosphere just melted and we talked and laughed like two old friends. since she felt cold, we decided to cuddle up a bit in bed. after we talked more i found out that she's a single mom already and at tender age she was married which was ended in a bad break up. she told me these things with her big round eyes and i found those so irresistible that i started kissing her. we kissed very softly for a while and she asked the room lights to be dimmed saying that she's shy. i made it so and watched as she started to undress. we began with kissing and licking each other's bodies (boy what a body she has, and what a skin) , and then she gave me a very passionate deep throat bbbj. after a while i pulled her down and we do it missionary. it was very hot inside of her, and she kind of impressed that i still had not come (i don't know what's wrong or what's right with me that day) while she came twice already, she switched to the top and started riding me when at last i came. amazingly though, my cock was still very hard and so she decided to pull off the glove, started sucking it and gave me another round of bbbj. nice afterglow. afterward, i offered her to join me for dinner as it was around 8. 30pm already but she said to reserve my offer for the next time because her manager was still waiting on her down at the lobby. she gave me her number and told me she would love to accompany me again not just for sex but also if i want to just hang out in the future. i didn't promise her anything though since i don't plan to involve myself to any kind of relationships (and the fact that next time i wanted to move on to next girls from fisherman's list). i just said i enjoyed her company and hope the best for her. we kissed and i sent her down back to the lobby. then i went for dinner.

*for picture of ndy you could ask mr. fisherman (though i think he already posted them at the clas ad section)

at around 9. 00pm i felt like a superman, and since the night was still young i decided to go to malioboro. on the way there however, i changed my mind and made way to alexis instead. i wanted to look for imports (as my standard for locals was deteriorated already by ndy) , and i thought my chance would be better to find them at alexis. it was strangely quiet for a saturday night at alexis, and it was just around 10pm. a mamasan friend (name florence, singaporean and easy on the eye) told me that it's due to rain that came before. that's fine because it meant there were more choices of wls for me. i was shown to uzbekistanis first, i think there were around 10 of them, two of them are just okay (for my type) , while the rest are downright ugly (really, i expect more from alexis). flo said that for now the import girls (except prcs, which still populated most) were started to be dominated by vietnamese, which she lined up for me next. i think there're around 20 of them, and i could see some are still very young, the problem was i couldn't really tell them apart from chinese (except subtle differences in complexion and they usually speak better english than prcs). i duly noted around three or four of them which were quite stunners and then the line up moved to thais. i booked out some thais in the past but before me was a new lineup of around 12 girls (lesser than before though, which could consist around 20 or more thai girls). i noted only 2 of them caught my attention, and then i asked florence about koreans and was told that they were all went back to korea already (and didn't know when they will come again). she asked me whether to look at prcs and locals but i said i didn't want to (i need some variations tonight). and so for a while i just contemplated over my shortlist and sightseeing for some time (i planned to wait till 11pm since the girls will become cheaper for booking out anyway). it was a bad move however, since flock of customers were started coming in and when at 11pm i decided to take out the uzbeks, two of my shortlist were already taken. so i moved on to vietnamese and relieved to find that at least two out of four from my shortlists were still there (two of them also were taken already, talking about competitions eh?). the two girls were pin and jenny, now pin got better body but jenny got the better face (flo joked me why not take them both, but i said enough for the day and she couldn't comprehend why. hah!). at last i went for jenny, because she winked more than one time to me (sign for good time i thought) while pin just stood there smiling (maybe next time babe). so after waited her changing to casual clothes (i like) , we decided to hangout first at the foreplay club at alexis' lobby area. we ordered beers and she told me that she liked to watch those sexy dancers (great!) , so we drank like two pints and enjoying the sexy show when i noticed something, jenny was quite drunk already (not so great). it was apparent from the changing on her behavior as she became more and more possessive toward me to a point she'the crossed at other girls and even at the dancers (definitely not great). so it was time to go. we reached back at the hotel around 2. 00am, and after gave her hot green tea she said sorry about her behavior before, and said that now she was horny (great again!). i was looking for variations and boy did i find'them that night. after a hot first round, she kind of unleashed her inner dominatrix, ordering (yep, not asking but ordering) me around to do this and that, and to be in what position and what-not. so i just played along and i was surely handsomely rewarded. i told her to down for bj and she talked back that she would only do it if my deedee didn't stink. well apparently i passed the smelly test because she gave me one of the best bbbj finished with cim i ever experienced. we even did a little [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] role-playing (her idea) , which i thought she took it a little too seriously (thankfully the room's soundproof was working off her screaming). she even slapped me couple of times. in the end i really couldn't tell who's [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125][CodeWord125][/url] whom. but i kind of enjoy it and now that i thought about it again, it really was tons of fun. afterward we just slept exhausted and that ended day 3 for me.

sun, apr 17.

woke by alarm around 8. 30am. still quite dizzy from yesterday chaos (and from only around 4hrs of sleep) , i tried to wake jenny up. she started to tease me for another round but i was not in the mood. i went for shower and asked her to join me for breakfast which she did half-heartedly and during which i teased her about last night. but she said she only remembered it in parts and kept apologizing if she did anything wrong since she was drunk. i said she did okay and that i really enjoyed her company (and our little role-playing heh.). after breakfast i set her go back to alexis, while i called room service to make up the room. and then i got ready for my next appointment.

*didn't take any pics but you can visit jenny at alexis.

around 11pm i got called from my friend saying that the girl was already on her way but got stuck in traffic around senayan area (i was skeptical at first about traffic on sunday, but later was told that there were indeed a political party's event went on senayan area) , i said i could only wait till 1pm at most since my flight was at 4pm. i called the hotel asking for late check-out and then waited for a bit. she at last arrived at almost 12. i went down and met her at the lobby, and i was literally blown away. there stood before me was one of (if not the) hottest girls i ever saw. her name's lucy, half dutch. half chinese (lethal combo).25yo (she told me later).5'7, blue eyes, long curly hair, white and milky skin, a goddess. i offered her lunch first but she said she was okay and so we went back to my room instead (she slipped her hand to mine as we walked and i adore her for that). in the room she took off her shoes and set herself on the sofa, and when i asked her anything to drink, she wanted a beer (and i immediately fell for her). we laughed and she told me not to judge her by her looks (or cute dress she's wearing) , she's sporty and a little tomboy inside having growing up with 2 big brothers. from our conversations i could tell she's a very positive person, traveling a lot (she spent a year in ny to live with her now ex-bf) , and acute father / brother complexes as she kept telling me how i reminded her to her big brother (later she told me that this brother of hers had recently passed away). i said i was sorry and then, didn't really know how it started, we kissed and then moved to the bed. as she started to undress i realized that she's not wearing any bras the whole time (she said it's bothersome :o) and i must confess i'm not kind of guy who's excited over big busts because usually big busts means fake busts. but hers i could swear are natural big and firm (and her nipples get really hard when you suck them). things started getting really hot as we're making out and it was all great except for one thing. my stupid little brother didn't want to wake up! i had some theories as to why it decided to go awol ('oversexed' from yesterday; too tired; intimidated by her beauty; over-thinking of it; etc) but bottom-line was i fucked up big time and was in deep shit situation. she asked what the matter was as she felt me stopped and i said my dick was acting up. she was having none of it (got wet already) and went down and started kissing and licking it. but that stupid boy just refused to get up! she asked whether this usually happened or whether it was because of her. i quickly said no and that i confused myself about the situation (at this point i was ready to commit hara-kiri). she was really patient though and proposed to try petting and then fingering (since she was wet already) , which i consented to try. and surely enough, after some petting, at last that stupid dick of mine was came to (hallelujah!) ; she then went down again and gave me bbbj till it's really hard. put the glove on and we went side banging till she came out. then we switched to missionary and then to her on top when i erupted at last. after we laughed about it and cuddle up a bit when the phone rang, it was from reception alarming me that's already 2. 30pm and i had used up my late check-out time. we exchanged contacts and she told me she will move to la for school next month, but she frequents to singapore and will let me know if she was in town and to set up for another dates (we still texting each other). i also kept myself a 'souvenir' which she gladly gave, and it always put a smile (and occasionally nosebleed) on my face whenever i imagine her walked around town without wearing any underwear that day hehe.

*a pic of lucy.

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as i dozed off in the flight back to singapore (i had to take the next flight since i missed my 4pm flight) , i realized how i couldn't wait to find my way back to jakarta again anytime soon.

Another great report Jritz. Out of curiousity, how much did Fisherman's girl, Jenny and Lucy cost? If you want to avoid the price police, PM me. Thanks.

This is my very first trip to Jakarta. I've read Jritz excellent reports and will follow his steps as fas as I can. Hmm.

Although I've got only 4 nights and 5 days in Jakarta, I'll try many places and report them.

great report jritz, loved all the lurid details. but omg could you add an occasional paragraph in your writing? i nearly went cross-eyed trying to read it.

[quote=jritz; 1148959]sat, apr 16.

woke up around 8. 30 refreshed and ready to go. during breakfast i was contacted by fisherman, he apologized and said that our appointment had to be rescheduled to 6pm due to the girl still had photo sessions. i consented and then went out to plaza senayan (ps) to buy books during which time i was ringed by an old friend who apparently found out that i was in town. he later came to meet me at ps for lunch and after some idle talks later insisted to introduce me to a model / artist friend of him that's also available for 'escorting services'. i said okay and the appointment was then set for tomorrow, sunday 11am (since i had flight sched back to spore at 3. 50).

around 1. 30pm i decided to visit hotel travel and arrived around 2pm. thankfully the place was still quiet but the downside was there're also still not many wls around for work (i suspect because most still recovering from busy night before) , in the first lounge i think only saw 10 girls were sitting on the sofas. however, in the second lounge there're more girls already so i chose to settle there. there're two groups of girls and i was approached by one mamasan whom i thought was a psychic since without even asking about my type she quickly delivered one girl that i couldn't refuse. her name's natalie, at most 21yo, not tall but very firm, and extremely cute. we sat down, ordered drinks and had a lively talk (apparently she didn't come to work last night-my luck) after a point when she proposed me to take the 2-girls package for 450k (she later also explained there're 3-girls package for 600k and 4-girls package for 800k! holy cow!). so we then agreed (yes, we) to take her friend named iin or icha (not too sure) to fill up our little formation. this girl was also still quite young (claimed just started working for 2 mth) , not as pretty but still selling, and nice body (later i found out also better at service). so we three headed for the room (i choose the spacious ex karaoke room one) , started to undress and head for shower where they both gently washed my body (got hard on already) and afterward led me to the bed. i was then told to 'enjoy aja', so i just laid down and they started licking my body down. damn, i still remember till now the feel of those two tongues on my deedee. they both took the turn for bbbjs and afterward iin decided to climb on me first, she was very wet already and after a while we changed position to doggy style while natalie kept on licking and rubbing to fill the gap. since amazingly i still didn't come (i didn't know why and i swear that i never took enhancements) , iin gave the turn up to natalie and the roles switched. i changed glove first and started missionary style with natalie followed by her back riding me, after a while we switched to doggie. at a point, seeing that i still couldn't come, iin suggested me to switchback and do anal on her, which i refused (not my cup of tea). instead me and natalie switched back to missionary (after changed glove again) and at last i reached for the big o. afterward we head to shower again and they commented how pale i looked like, esp. on the lips area (i guess i got dehydrated a bit). we got dressed and i tipped each of them rp150k. i left and paid at the cashier maybe around rp750k incld drinks. really value-for-money!

*didn't take any pics but you can visit them at hotel travel second lounge.

reached hotel around 4. 30pm, showered, took a little rest, and got ready for my 6pm appointment. around 6. 30pm they finally came, and i came down to fetch the girl at the lobby. got to say i had some reservations about the whole deal before, but when i saw her i was at ease. she didn't look exactly what she looked in the pics (which i'm sure must've been smudged up) , but i'the say 80% of it are hers truly. her name was ndy, i guessed around 24yo, not too much make-up as i would expect from a model, natural beauty, brown but silky skin, perfect rags, big round eyes, and 100% a babe. in person she kind of reminded me to a little crush i had with a classmate back in my college time. shortly i took her back to my room and offered something to drink. she chose still water, and then we chatted a bit. for some reasons, i found her much more nervous than i was. she said she was shy and her english's not very good. i then made a joke in bahasa and surprised her to death because she thought i don't understand bahasa (that and also the fact that she was talking rather funny-but-sweet remarks about me before with her agent when first meeting me at the lobby hehe). after that the atmosphere just melted and we talked and laughed like two old friends. since she felt cold, we decided to cuddle up a bit in bed. after we talked more i found out that she's a single mom already and at tender age she was married which was ended in a bad break up. she told me these things with her big round eyes and i found those so irresistible that i started kissing her. we kissed very softly for a while and she asked the room lights to be dimmed saying that she's shy. i made it so and watched as she started to undress. we began with kissing and licking each other's bodies (boy what a body she has, and what a skin) , and then she gave me a very passionate deep throat bbbj. after a while i pulled her down and we do it missionary. it was very hot inside of her, and she kind of impressed that i still had not come (i don't know what's wrong or what's right with me that day) while she came twice already, she switched to the top and started riding me when at last i came. amazingly though, my cock was still very hard and so she decided to pull off the glove, started sucking it and gave me another round of bbbj. nice afterglow. afterward, i offered her to join me for dinner as it was around 8. 30pm already but she said to reserve my offer for the next time because her manager was still waiting on her down at the lobby. she gave me her number and told me she would love to accompany me again not just for sex but also if i want to just hang out in the future. i didn't promise her anything though since i don't plan to involve myself to any kind of relationships (and the fact that next time i wanted to move on to next girls from fisherman's list). i just said i enjoyed her company and hope the best for her. we kissed and i sent her down back to the lobby. then i went for dinner.

*for picture of ndy you could ask mr. fisherman (though i think he already posted them at the clas ad section)

at around 9. 00pm i felt like a superman, and since the night was still young i decided to go to malioboro. on the way there however, i changed my mind and made way to alexis instead. i wanted to look for imports (as my standard for locals was deteriorated already by ndy) , and i thought my chance would be better to find them at alexis. it was strangely quiet for a saturday night at alexis, and it was just around 10pm. a mamasan friend (name florence, singaporean and easy on the eye) told me that it's due to rain that came before. that's fine because it meant there were more choices of wls for me. i was shown to uzbekistanis first, i think there were around 10 of them, two of them are just okay (for my type) , while the rest are downright ugly (really, i expect more from alexis). flo said that for now the import girls (except prcs, which still populated most) were started to be dominated by vietnamese, which she lined up for me next. i think there're around 20 of them, and i could see some are still very young, the problem was i couldn't really tell them apart from chinese (except subtle differences in complexion and they usually speak better english than prcs). i duly noted around three or four of them which were quite stunners and then the line up moved to thais. i booked out some thais in the past but before me was a new lineup of around 12 girls (lesser than before though, which could consist around 20 or more thai girls). i noted only 2 of them caught my attention, and then i asked florence about koreans and was told that they were all went back to korea already (and didn't know when they will come again). she asked me whether to look at prcs and locals but i said i didn't want to (i need some variations tonight). and so for a while i just contemplated over my shortlist and sightseeing for some time (i planned to wait till 11pm since the girls will become cheaper for booking out anyway). it was a bad move however, since flock of customers were started coming in and when at 11pm i decided to take out the uzbeks, two of my shortlist were already taken. so i moved on to vietnamese and relieved to find that at least two out of four from my shortlists were still there (two of them also were taken already, talking about competitions eh?). the two girls were pin and jenny, now pin got better body but jenny got the better face (flo joked me why not take them both, but i said enough for the day and she couldn't comprehend why. hah!). at last i went for jenny, because she winked more than one time to me (sign for good time i thought) while pin just stood there smiling (maybe next time babe). so after waited her changing to casual clothes (i like) , we decided to hangout first at the foreplay club at alexis' lobby area. we ordered beers and she told me that she liked to watch those sexy dancers (great!) , so we drank like two pints and enjoying the sexy show when i noticed something, jenny was quite drunk already (not so great). it was apparent from the changing on her behavior as she became more and more possessive toward me to a point she'the crossed at other girls and even at the dancers (definitely not great). so it was time to go. we reached back at the hotel around 2. 00am, and after gave her hot green tea she said sorry about her behavior before, and said that now she was horny (great again!). i was looking for variations and boy did i find'them that night. after a hot first round, she kind of unleashed her inner dominatrix, ordering (yep, not asking but ordering) me around to do this and that, and to be in what position and what-not. so i just played along and i was surely handsomely rewarded. i told her to down for bj and she talked back that she would only do it if my deedee didn't stink. well apparently i passed the smelly test because she gave me one of the best bbbj finished with cim i ever experienced. we even did a little [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] role-playing (her idea) , which i thought she took it a little too seriously (thankfully the room's soundproof was working off her screaming). she even slapped me couple of times. in the end i really couldn't tell who's [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125][CodeWord125][/url] whom. but i kind of enjoy it and now that i thought about it again, it really was tons of fun. afterward we just slept exhausted and that ended day 3 for me.

sun, apr 17.

woke by alarm around 8. 30am. still quite dizzy from yesterday chaos (and from only around 4hrs of sleep) , i tried to wake jenny up. she started to tease me for another round but i was not in the mood. i went for shower and asked her to join me for breakfast which she did half-heartedly and during which i teased her about last night. but she said she only remembered it in parts and kept apologizing if she did anything wrong since she was drunk. i said she did okay and that i really enjoyed her company (and our little role-playing heh.). after breakfast i set her go back to alexis, while i called room service to make up the room. and then i got ready for my next appointment.

*didn't take any pics but you can visit jenny at alexis.

around 11pm i got called from my friend saying that the girl was already on her way but got stuck in traffic around senayan area (i was skeptical at first about traffic on sunday, but later was told that there were indeed a political party's event went on senayan area) , i said i could only wait till 1pm at most since my flight was at 4pm. i called the hotel asking for late check-out and then waited for a bit. she at last arrived at almost 12. i went down and met her at the lobby, and i was literally blown away. there stood before me was one of (if not the) hottest girls i ever saw. her name's lucy, half dutch. half chinese (lethal combo).25yo (she told me later).5'7, blue eyes, long curly hair, white and milky skin, a goddess. i offered her lunch first but she said she was okay and so we went back to my room instead (she slipped her hand to mine as we walked and i adore her for that). in the room she took off her shoes and set herself on the sofa, and when i asked her anything to drink, she wanted a beer (and i immediately fell for her). we laughed and she told me not to judge her by her looks (or cute dress she's wearing) , she's sporty and a little tomboy inside having growing up with 2 big brothers. from our conversations i could tell she's a very positive person, traveling a lot (she spent a year in ny to live with her now ex-bf) , and acute father / brother complexes as she kept telling me how i reminded her to her big brother (later she told me that this brother of hers had recently passed away). i said i was sorry and then, didn't really know how it started, we kissed and then moved to the bed. as she started to undress i realized that she's not wearing any bras the whole time (she said it's bothersome :o) and i must confess i'm not kind of guy who's excited over big busts because usually big busts means fake busts. but hers i could swear are natural big and firm (and her nipples get really hard when you suck them). things started getting really hot as we're making out and it was all great except for one thing. my stupid little brother didn't want to wake up! i had some theories as to why it decided to go awol ('oversexed' from yesterday; too tired; intimidated by her beauty; over-thinking of it; etc) but bottom-line was i fucked up big time and was in deep shit situation. she asked what the matter was as she felt me stopped and i said my dick was acting up. she was having none of it (got wet already) and went down and started kissing and licking it. but that stupid boy just refused to get up! she asked whether this usually happened or whether it was because of her. i quickly said no and that i confused myself about the situation (at this point i was ready to commit hara-kiri). she was really patient though and proposed to try petting and then fingering (since she was wet already) , which i consented to try. and surely enough, after some petting, at last that stupid dick of mine was came to (hallelujah!) ; she then went down again and gave me bbbj till it's really hard. put the glove on and we went side banging till she came out. then we switched to missionary and then to her on top when i erupted at last. after we laughed about it and cuddle up a bit when the phone rang, it was from reception alarming me that's already 2. 30pm and i had used up my late check-out time. we exchanged contacts and she told me she will move to la for school next month, but she frequents to singapore and will let me know if she was in town and to set up for another dates (we still texting each other). i also kept myself a 'souvenir' which she gladly gave, and it always put a smile (and occasionally nosebleed) on my face whenever i imagine her walked around town without wearing any underwear that day hehe.

*a pic of lucy.

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as i dozed off in the flight back to singapore (i had to take the next flight since i missed my 4pm flight) , i realized how i couldn't wait to find my way back to jakarta again anytime soon. [/quote]

[QUOTE=Jritz;1148959]We sat down, ordered drinks and had a lively talk (apparently she didn't come to work last night-my luck) after a point when she proposed me to take the 2-girls package for 450k (she later also explained there're 3-girls package for 600k and 4-girls package for 800k! Holy cow!).[/QUOTE]Haha! Be gettin' a bit crowded in one of those Hotel Travel rooms with 4 + 1, I'm thinking!

[QUOTE=Jritz; 1148959]Sat, Apr 16.

As I dozed off in the flight back to Singapore (I had to take the next flight since I missed my 4pm flight) , I realized how I couldn't wait to find my way back to Jakarta again anytime soon. [/QUOTE]May I call you "Single Walking Dictionary". Great FR and superbly having fun in Jakarta. All the best.

Fisherman

Finally visited the Fortune Spa, across from Le Meridien. I say finally cause I have been curious many times but it looks a bit dodgy from outside. But this time I had a lot of time from my meeting finished to my flight, so asked the taxi to stop there.

Was surprised when I entered, the place looks quite good inside. Got my key from the lobby and went inside to a bar / counter where you book a girl and room. They had a nice screen with pics of each girl, unfortuntaly I came before 1pm so most girls had not arrived yet.

I picked one and chose the second lowest category room, one with a shower.

The girl I had was nice, spoke some English and did a good massage followed by the special ending (HJ).

After an hour she had not started the HJ yet, and she asked if I wanted to extend, I agreed and was wondering how much they would add to the bill. When I paid I don't think they added anything. Total price was 420k or 460k don't remember, but think that is what it should be for one girl, one hour + room.

I asked if she would do BJ, she declined, does anyone know if this is possible to get there or at any other spa? Any recommendations?

They always pull that "do you want to extend" crap at Fortune. They do that on purpose and it's the main reason I don't go there often. Yes, you do pay more for that. I think it's another 150k for the extra 45 minutes. I've never been there where they had pictures of the girls to look at. That must be new. Good to know.

You can get more than a handjob there depending on the girl. I've had full sex in there more than once. But some of the girls refuse that. It's hit or miss.

[quote=liondale; 1149202]finally visited the fortune spa, across from le meridien. i say finally cause i have been curious many times but it looks a bit dodgy from outside. but this time i had a lot of time from my meeting finished to my flight, so asked the taxi to stop there.

was surprised when i entered, the place looks quite good inside. got my key from the lobby and went inside to a bar / counter where you book a girl and room. they had a nice screen with pics of each girl, unfortuntaly i came before 1pm so most girls had not arrived yet.

i picked one and chose the second lowest category room, one with a shower.

the girl i had was nice, spoke some english and did a good massage followed by the special ending (hj).

after an hour she had not started the hj yet, and she asked if i wanted to extend, i agreed and was wondering how much they would add to the bill. when i paid i don't think they added anything. total price was 420k or 460k don't remember, but think that is what it should be for one girl, one hour + room.

i asked if she would do bj, she declined, does anyone know if this is possible to get there or at any other spa? any recommendations? [/quote]that sounds like about the same price for delta spa triple session (3 x 45mins) with hj happy ending (normally 50k tip. 100k if you felt extremely happy) in their vip room (or does my memory serve me wrong?). how long were you in there for liondale? mind you no chance of fs in delta. although you can get the "therapist's" number and arrange to meet her outside if she likes you. it's similar for my place too.

md ii

I can never figure out Jakarta nightlife. It seems the places that offer the least are the most popular for the most part.

DragonFly is popular as heck and offers little to nothing. No live music, no dancing. And they charge a 100k cover charge that does not include a drink. Rip off. I can't understand why this place is popular.

CJ's is always crowded, but that's deservedly so. The venue is nice and the band is the best I've ever seen in Jakarta for pop music.

Mistere at the Ritz Carlton has the 2nd best band in Jakarta (after the awesome band at CJ's) , a nice dance floor, and nobody ever goes there any night except Friday night. And Friday is only busy because ladies drink free before midnight. (although the salsa night on Thursday and tango night on Saturday in the smaller bar area are always pretty busy). Given the venue and price, Mistere is probably the best bang for your buck in the city. But it's dead. Go figure.

I was in Bats the other night. The band was close to crap and the place was packed. Go figure. Then again, that place is more popular for a prostitute pickup spot than for the music.

Le Meridien is still completely dead these days, but I'm not sure why. The band isn't bad and the venue is nice. I loved the old days when the girls would get drunk and dance on top of the bar there. Seems those days are gone.

Red Square is a tiny little venue where they pack a ton of people into. I can see why it's popular only because it stays later than most places. It's similar to DragonFly, but not as big and more fun since the girls do dance on that table in the middle.

Blowfish = crap. Similar to Dragon Fly, but it's basically all Chinese. I have nothing against the Chinese, but it's not a place I want to frequent.

There's a fairly new restaurant called Luna Negra in town. It's one of the new trendy places to go. Place is mediocre at best. An order of sop buntut at Top Gun in Blok M is better than anything on their menu.

Thanks a bunch folks for all the encouragements!

Blacka0: I can't pm you, it's not active. Sorry. Like MDII suggested, you can try to contact mr Fisherman himself.

Fisherman: Thanks and I mean it. (also remember that I still hold your promise about a certain "someone" heheh).

JAD2: Thanks man. I owe you one, so next time I visit Jakarta we'll have a good drinks on me.

Manga: Thanks and sorry about that. I tried to edit them but cannot. Well you can always send your aspirin bill to me heheh.

Also I find the need to explain one thing. Though my adventure "expenditures" might raise more than one eyebrows from some fellow mongerers, I had not the slightest intention to disrupt the market rates.

Meaning while I'd never hassle for services, I'd also won't pay more as so to make harder for other fellow mongerers to get same service in that same market. Say in Hotel Travel or even in Alexis, I'd only pay what their normal rates are, and won't tip the wls over than what they'd normally received for good services. However, I also won't mind to pay big money for girls such as Fisherman's girsl since that's their market rate.

Hope this clear things up and I'll appreciate it if no more flame came from this issue.

Regards,

Jritz

[QUOTE=Jritz;1149484]Fisherman: Thanks and I mean it. (also remember that I still hold your promise about a certain "someone" heheh).[/QUOTE]Jritz,

Promise is a promise and for me, will provide you the best of the best.

Br,

Fish

Arriving into Jakarta tom very excited! Last question guys in Alexis are girls available for take out and at what cost for all night?

Thanks I promise there will be a report.

[quote=master diver ii; 1149434]that sounds like about the same price for delta spa triple session (3 x 45mins) with hj happy ending (normally 50k tip. 100k if you felt extremely happy) in their vip room (or does my memory serve me wrong?). how long were you in there for liondale? mind you no chance of fs in delta. although you can get the "therapist's" number and arrange to meet her outside if she likes you. it's similar for my place too.

md ii[/quote]hi bro md ii,

first of all, hope we can meet up again soon!

i was in the room with the girl for about 80 minutes. did not tip the girl cause i was in a damn hurry to get to the airport for my flight. and was disappointed she did not fall for my charm and give me a bj hahahaha.

3x45 mins sounds better for that price though. but a pity none offer happier ending.

[QUOTE=Smoothy; 1149442]I can never figure out Jakarta nightlife. It seems the places that offer the least are the most popular for the most part.

DragonFly is popular as heck and offers little to nothing. No live music, no dancing. And they charge a 100k cover charge that does not include a drink. Rip off. I can't understand why this place is popular.

CJ's is always crowded, but that's deservedly so. The venue is nice and the band is the best I've ever seen in Jakarta for pop music.

Mistere at the Ritz Carlton has the 2nd best band in Jakarta (after the awesome band at CJ's) , a nice dance floor, and nobody ever goes there any night except Friday night. And Friday is only busy because ladies drink free before midnight. (although the salsa night on Thursday and tango night on Saturday in the smaller bar area are always pretty busy). Given the venue and price, Mistere is probably the best bang for your buck in the city. But it's dead. Go figure.

I was in Bats the other night. The band was close to crap and the place was packed. Go figure. Then again, that place is more popular for a prostitute pickup spot than for the music.

Le Meridien is still completely dead these days, but I'm not sure why. The band isn't bad and the venue is nice. I loved the old days when the girls would get drunk and dance on top of the bar there. Seems those days are gone.

Red Square is a tiny little venue where they pack a ton of people into. I can see why it's popular only because it stays later than most places. It's similar to DragonFly, but not as big and more fun since the girls do dance on that table in the middle.

Blowfish = crap. Similar to Dragon Fly, but it's basically all Chinese. I have nothing against the Chinese, but it's not a place I want to frequent.

There's a fairly new restaurant called Luna Negra in town. It's one of the new trendy places to go. Place is mediocre at best. An order of sop buntut at Top Gun in Blok M is better than anything on their menu. [/QUOTE]Here is what I think. Firstly, guys will go where there are girls, so if you get girls you are saved. Jakarta has 4 types of nightlife.

1."High end", the "in" places, where you go to see and be seen. And the local girls hunt for rich (white) bf's, or the girls who already have a sugar daddy / bf / husband who is away but sending money, go to show off their dress of the week and show the other girls that they have "made it". In this category we have Dragonfly, Blowfish, Lowey's.

2. FL places, always crowded because it has plenty of girls looking to sell their services and plenty of guys enjoying the view and hunting grounds. CJ's, Bats, some places in Blok M and to some degree Red Square etc.

3. Normal bars and clubs, normal outgoing crowd: X2, Immigrant etc. Only happening on weekends when normal people are out to party.

4. Pro Girly places: girls are part of the establishment to offer their services, so not really FL's, the venue will have rooms etc available for you to enjoy the girl you chose, plenty.

5. I said 4 types of nightlife, but list a number 5 because it offers no nightlife, but these are the places that does not attract girls of any kind and is therefore empty. Why don't they have girls? Maybe they have not bribed the right people to be allowed to have FL's etc, or they don't want it for other reasons. And they are not hip enough to attract normal girls.

[quote=livers; 1149548]last question guys in alexis are girls available for take out and at what cost for all night?[/quote]incalls. 1,950k for 30 minutes in the pool and 1 hour in the room. tipping practice 500k for the second shot. outcalls. overnight 'till 10am. 5 vouchers before 11pm. 3 vouchers after 11pm. tipping practice 1,000k. alternatively, you may use my list of escort service for escort service/erotic massage and massage service for therapeutic massage.

I will be staying at Sunlake Hotel Sunter next week, around the area any pub or escort I can try? Please recommend.

[QUOTE=Master Diver II; 1148717]The price I heard quoted was Rps 10 million for 2 hours (1 or 2 shots). You can check out his details in the Classified section.

MD II[/QUOTE]Holy cow has Jakarta gone up in price since I last when there. Anyway going in mid May this reading the Forum again. Bringing along a friend for his first trip to Jakarta. Guess Alexis and Hotel Travel will be good start more so since we are staying in Mangga Dua. Will need to catch up with some members met the last time, was it JAD we met MD2 some time back for dinner in Kemayan.

Well let me know if you have any new contacts yeah. Will do the Brats things, maybe CJ a miss based on your report.

[QUOTE=Acerboy; 1149748]Holy cow has Jakarta gone up in price since I last when there. Anyway going in mid May this reading the Forum again. Bringing along a friend for his first trip to Jakarta. Guess Alexis and Hotel Travel will be good start more so since we are staying in Mangga Dua. Will need to catch up with some members met the last time, was it JAD we met MD2 some time back for dinner in Kemayan.

Well let me know if you have any new contacts yeah. Will do the Brats things, maybe CJ a miss based on your report.[/QUOTE]To Acerboy.

Yes eveything has gone up here in Jarkata but so is many other place is SE asia and if you have USD you are screw, I remember after the SE asia crisis 1 USD to 13k rup but Hotel travel is the best deal in Jarkata for 300k, I was there 3 night out of 4 night first night Friday night at 5pm still not too many customer there are over 100 girl most are hot, I check out many other place still end up at hotel travel, price at Mewai hotel 6 th fl is now 500k and the girl are dog And block M is dead.

Fast Eddie 48

[quote]DragonFly is popular as heck and offers little to nothing. No live music, no dancing. And they charge a 100k cover charge that does not include a drink. Rip off. I can't understand why this place is popular.[/quote]Let me guess. You're 50 or over. 100% odds you're over 40. And look it.

First of all, pop music sucks and bad cover renditions of pop music suck even more. The bands at bats and cj's rotate every couple of months or so, but I typically prefer the one at bats. Sometimes they play good rock stuff. The cj's bands are usually extraordinarily cheesy in the music they perform.

But getting back to Dfly. I assume nothing has changed since last year, but it's basically a normal modern day nightclub. There's no dance floor per se, which is unusual, but you can dance if you want to. If you're much over 40 and look it, then you're perceived as the weird old man in the club. That's one reason you don't understand.

looks like you can't edit it after a certain amount of time?

Meant to say bands at cj / bats change every so often, not rotate.

Clubs with live bands haven't been popular among the younger set for over 30 years now.

Hmmmmmm That's a good theory. Live music has been out of style for 30 years? I wasn't old enough to drink 30 years ago so I'm not sure what the rage was back then, but I'll take your word for it being hot back then. I was 33 when I first came to Jakarta and back then could basically get any girl I wanted anywhere I went. Ya, I'm about 10 years older now and the girls don't flock like they used to. However, when I first arrived, I thought places similar to DragonFly (which didn't exist back then) sucked back then just like they do now. I've always liked places with live music better than places like Dragonfly where they have nothing to offer other than standing around listening to music played by a dj and no dancing. If there were girls popping their boobs out there for some entertainment, it would be ok. But that doesn't happen. I just don't see what entertainment value that place offers that you can't find anywhere.

Best place in Jakarta (in my opinion) was the old Hard Rock prior to it moving out of Sarinah. Hookers were in the bar area to the right and the "nice girls" were either upstairs or to the left or center so it was easy to know who was who. Haha. The bands there always got the crowds dancing (fairly rare to see that in Jakarta actually). By 2am, everyone was dancing on top of the tables. That place truly rocked. Sucks now that it's in EX though. Shame really.

Right now, I'd say CJ's is the best place in town. But the dance floor is pretty lame.

Dragonfly ain't for me. I doubt it would have been for me when I was 21 either.

Liondale: I really admired your insights and couldn't agree more.

Both Smoothy and Catire have some good points and let's not debate and who's right or wrong because from what I see it comes back to one own preferences (some like funky techno some like live musics). Hei the most important is whatever works for you and your game.

As for myself I frequent both of those places (in fact I have Dragonfly's membership and also member of CJ's / anyone needs a table?). I've got to admit thought that when I went to these places, I was with a companion (or sometimes companions.) already, so I just went there to enjoy the place athmosphere, not on hunting mission. In fact, usually my decision to visit which venues was based on the girls' wishes. From my experience, girls who're more outgoing and love to dance (usually westerners bg or latinas) dig Cjs more. While more classy (and glossy) girls who want a good place just to relax and drink dig Dragonfly more. For me I just be there for the spill of their funs hehe.

PS. Anyone ever try new club name Immigrant in Plaza Indonesia? I was recommended this place by a friend last time visiting jakarta, but haven't checked it my self. Heard it's a good pick-ups place.

[QUOTE=Jritz; 1149948]Liondale: I really admired your insights and couldn't agree more.

Both Smoothy and Catire have some good points and let's not debate and who's right or wrong because from what I see it comes back to one own preferences (some like funky techno some like live musics). Hei the most important is whatever works for you and your game.

As for myself I frequent both of those places (in fact I have Dragonfly's membership and also member of CJ's / anyone needs a table?). I've got to admit thought that when I went to these places, I was with a companion (or sometimes companions.) already, so I just went there to enjoy the place athmosphere, not on hunting mission. In fact, usually my decision to visit which venues was based on the girls' wishes. From my experience, girls who're more outgoing and love to dance (usually westerners bg or latinas) dig Cjs more. While more classy (and glossy) girls who want a good place just to relax and drink dig Dragonfly more. For me I just be there for the spill of their funs hehe.

PS. Anyone ever try new club name Immigrant in Plaza Indonesia? I was recommended this place by a friend last time visiting jakarta, but haven't checked it my self. Heard it's a good pick-ups place. [/QUOTE]I've also been to CJ's and Dragonfly plenty. CJ's cause I like it, Dragonfly cause many of my girl friends like it. I think CJ's is great cause it's always lively there, and you can go as a single guy and have fun. DF I think is horribly boring if you go alone, but if you are in a group you can have some fun. DF still feels more plasticy and artificial to me.

Didn't know you could be member in these places! . How does that work? Yeah I'd like a table.

I think X2 is a good alternative in the weekends.

Immigrant is not very happening in the weekdays, not happening at all. Weekends it is ok, but somehow it doesn't quite do it for me. Could be the weird L shaped layout.

Well I became members via invitations (didn't sign up or anything). As to how to get those invitations, I didn't exacty know.

If you need a table in those venues (DF or CJ's) , you can drop me a line (better via pm as I'll get noticed by email) at least a day before you plan to go and state whether you want the long tables or the sofa.

Be advised however that for table or sofa they have minimum charges in both places (table's cheaper, CJ's cheaper). I forget how much (I think it was around 1, 5m for table and 2, 5m for sofa? Not too sure, sorry). But if you came with group of friends, or if you're much of a drinker I think you'll easily find the way to fill up the charges.

JAD2: I'll be coming to Jakarta around next week. I'll drop you a line when it's fixed.

[QUOTE=Liondale; 1149977]I've also been to CJ's and Dragonfly plenty. CJ's cause I like it, Dragonfly cause many of my girl friends like it. I think CJ's is great cause it's always lively there, and you can go as a single guy and have fun. DF I think is horribly boring if you go alone, but if you are in a group you can have some fun. DF still feels more plasticy and artificial to me.

Didn't know you could be member in these places! . How does that work? Yeah I'd like a table.

I think X2 is a good alternative in the weekends.

Immigrant is not very happening in the weekdays, not happening at all. Weekends it is ok, but somehow it doesn't quite do it for me. Could be the weird L shaped layout. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Catire;1149856]Let me guess. You're 50 or over. 100% odds you're over 40. And look it.[/QUOTE]Catire, that's kind of funny. I'm well into my forties and still enjoy DF and, even better, Loewey's. I agree with the people who say that it's better to go there with a group of friends, usually a mixed bunch of Indonesians and bules, rather than to treat it as a Blok M bar. I've never pulled at either place, except with one of the women in the group that I arrived there with. They are both cool places to take a girl if she isn't the sort that would be comfortable in Blok M (and that's probably 95% of Indonesian women!) My bet is that you could pull there, whatever your age, if you dressed up a little bit, talked nicely, spoke a bit of Indonesian, and generally felt comfortable in that kind of environment and with the clientele there. A lot of young Indonesian women are quite ok with older guys, they just don't want a fat old bastard wearing shorts and thongs asking them if they'll do anal sex for an extra hundred thousand. It's all about the right approach for the right environment, why'know?

Jritz: Sounds good, don't worry, won't be bugging you all the time. The charge requirements is no prob.

JAD2: Hope to see you as well. Been on my to do list for a long time. If not for anything else than a drink.

[QUOTE=Gonzo Two;1150114]they just don't want a fat old bastard wearing shorts and thongs asking them if they'll do anal sex for an extra hundred thousand.[/QUOTE]Maybe that's where I've been going wrong. .

JAD2: Hahaha you got a point! Well, in that case then it's better to bring the "chef" himself for a cooking session, and, if we were lucky, we might get a slice or two from the steaks. Wonder if Master Diver II will be around Jakarta next week.

Liondale: It's a deal. And hei, will you be in Jakarta next week? Since I'll be to Jakarta at that time, how about joining me and (hopefully) JAD2 for a drink, maybe at CJs? The more the merrier and I could recommend you for membership to the people there. Just an idea.

Smoothy: LOL!

[QUOTE=Jritz;1150181]JAD2: Hahaha you got a point! Well, in that case then it's better to bring the "chef" himself for a cooking session, and, if we were lucky, we might get a slice or two from the steaks. Wonder if Master Diver II will be around Jakarta next week.[/QUOTE]Forget it! Not even a crumble! MD is nice enough to introduce you to what's left after he made his choice, but that's the only time you'll have a little attention from the girls. The rest of the time THEY are the ones hoping for a slice of MD. For them it's like: better nothing than no MD! Well, if you look like Brad Pitt or George Clooney, you might have a chance.

Menteng: Spoken as true from own experience. I take it. Damn he's that good, eh? Then it's game over for me, cause last time I check in the mirror I still look more liike.Rob Schneider meet Kevin Spacey- wise.

[QUOTE=Jritz;1150266]Menteng: Spoken as true from own experience. I take it. Damn he's that good, eh? Then it's game over for me, cause last time I check in the mirror I still look more liike.Rob Schneider meet Kevin Spacey- wise.[/QUOTE]Hahaha. Many fish in the pond. Not to worry, even rob schbeider can catch the marlins.

[QUOTE=Jritz; 1150181]JAD2: Hahaha you got a point! Well, in that case then it's better to bring the "chef" himself for a cooking session, and, if we were lucky, we might get a slice or two from the steaks. Wonder if Master Diver II will be around Jakarta next week.

Liondale: It's a deal. And hei, will you be in Jakarta next week? Since I'll be to Jakarta at that time, how about joining me and (hopefully) JAD2 for a drink, maybe at CJs? The more the merrier and I could recommend you for membership to the people there. Just an idea.

Smoothy: LOL! [/QUOTE]Not sure if I can make it, depends on my work schedule. But what days will you be there?

Would be really great to meet so will try. .

[QUOTE=Jritz;1150266]Menteng: Spoken as true from own experience. I take it. Damn he's that good, eh? Then it's game over for me, cause last time I check in the mirror I still look more liike.Rob Schneider meet Kevin Spacey- wise.[/QUOTE]My own experience indeed, but maybe because the girls didn't recognize my inner beauty. From the outside I look like the hunchback from Notredame.

I'm looking for spots in Jakarta like malls, bars, clubs, discos where I can pick up normal, good looking girls (no hookers). The girls must be in looks from 8 out of 10. In worst case I want to pay a 'taxi money' after a night. I know how to seduce a woman.

As of now I have the following places:

During the daytime: Shopping malls (which ones has good looking girls?)

In the late evenings:

- Red Square (from 11 pm)

- Hard Rock Cafe (is it still good?)

I think in the following bars most of the girls will be hookers:

CJ's (Hotel Mulia)

B. A. T. S. (Hotel Shangri La)

[QUOTE=Pussycheck; 1151151]I'm looking for spots in Jakarta like malls, bars, clubs, discos where I can pick up normal, good looking girls (no hookers). The girls must be in looks from 8 out of 10. In worst case I want to pay a 'taxi money' after a night. I know how to seduce a woman.

As of now I have the following places:

During the daytime: Shopping malls (which ones has good looking girls?)

In the late evenings:

- Red Square (from 11 pm)

- Hard Rock Cafe (is it still good?)

I think in the following bars most of the girls will be hookers:

CJ's (Hotel Mulia)

B. A. T. S. (Hotel Shangri La) [/QUOTE]Some choices would be Aphrodites at Kuningan, Eastern Promise at Kemang and De Hooi at Pondok Indah. Not too many hookers frequent these places but more better class ceweks, friends of Indo wives married to Expats etc.

A lot of them would be late 20's to 30's and appeals to guys looking for the more mature, has a good job independant type cewek.

[QUOTE=Menteng;1150252]Forget it! Not even a crumble! MD is nice enough to introduce you to what's left after he made his choice, but that's the only time you'll have a little attention from the girls. The rest of the time THEY are the ones hoping for a slice of MD. For them it's like: better nothing than no MD! Well, if you look like Brad Pitt or George Clooney, you might have a chance.[/QUOTE]Haha. Seems MD's reputation has not changed and same as it is in Malaysia.

MD you are a bastard and I do tell it in your face as usual

[QUOTE=KangK; 1151160]Some choices would be Aphrodites at Kuningan, Eastern Promise at Kemang and De Hooi at Pondok Indah. Not too many hookers frequent these places but more better class ceweks, friends of Indo wives married to Expats etc.

A lot of them would be late 20's to 30's and appeals to guys looking for the more mature, has a good job independant type cewek. [/QUOTE]Would you say that these 3 options are among the other options the better options?

The girls can be late 20's but not older. Their looks must be from 8 out of 10.

How is Red Square compared to these 3 options?

[quote=jakarta after dark 2; 1150092]jritz: looking forward to meeting you again in near future. .

man dome: you may visit erotic establishments in kelapa gading area like sumo. alternatively, you may use my lists of escort service for escort service / erotic massage and massage service for therapeutic massage.

[url]http://www.jakartaafterdark.com[/url]

acerboy: yap. it was me you met at payon, kemang. i recommend you to use my lists.

smoothy: i couldn't agree more on how liondale describe 4 types of nightlife in jakarta. it's been years. how are you doing?

jakarta after dark[/quote]jad. i'll be in mangga dua but bringing coal to new castle, so may hang out at some nice clubs instead of trying to pick some girls. well md has taken all the women so i had to bring my own. we can do dinner.

i think i met someones else with kl guy, menteng or spearman. anyway if can would like to catch up for dinner end of may

[QUOTE=Pussycheck; 1151151]I'm looking for spots in Jakarta like malls, bars, clubs, discos where I can pick up normal, good looking girls (no hookers). The girls must be in looks from 8 out of 10. In worst case I want to pay a 'taxi money' after a night. I know how to seduce a woman.

As of now I have the following places:

During the daytime: Shopping malls (which ones has good looking girls?)

In the late evenings:

- Red Square (from 11 pm)

- Hard Rock Cafe (is it still good?)

I think in the following bars most of the girls will be hookers:

CJ's (Hotel Mulia)

B. A. T. S. (Hotel Shangri La) [/QUOTE]If you took your time and look esp at the post num 5291 reported by our fellow mongerer [B]Liondale[/B], you'll find out exactly what you're looking for in his First (1) and Third (3) type of Jakarta's nightlife styles. Complete with the club / bar names.

Good luck

[QUOTE=Pussycheck; 1151228]Would you say that these 3 options are among the other options the better options?

The girls can be late 20's but not older. Their looks must be from 8 out of 10.

How is Red Square compared to these 3 options? [/QUOTE]Definately Red Square shits all over my options. These 3 options are very hit and miss and heaps of expats. Every now and then you get a gem coming thru but don't hold your breath.

[QUOTE=Acerboy; 1151227]Haha. Seems MD's reputation has not changed and same as it is in Malaysia.
MD you are a bastard and I do tell it in your face as usual[/QUOTE]
Bro,

You're just pissed that I forgot to tell you how to make a tiramisu. If you're going end of May, I might be there. No confirmation yet but let me know and I'll try to match your dates. I might make a tiramisu in Jakarta...;)
[QUOTE=Acerboy; 1151229]JAD. I'll be in Mangga Dua but bringing coal to New castle, so may hang out at some nice clubs instead of trying to pick some girls. Well MD has taken all the women so I had to bring my own. We can do dinner.

I think I met someones else with KL Guy, Menteng or Spearman. Anyway if can would like to catch up for dinner end of May[/QUOTE]Plenty of women in Jakarta bro but I know what you're up to: you bringing your gf so you can find another girl to do a threesome again right? :D

MD II

[quote=pussycheck; 1151151]i'm looking for spots in jakarta like malls, bars, clubs, discos where i can pick up normal, good looking girls (no hookers). the girls must be in looks from 8 out of 10. in worst case i want to pay a 'taxi money' after a night. i know how to seduce a woman.

as of now i have the following places:

during the daytime: shopping malls (which ones has good looking girls?)

in the late evenings:

- red square (from 11 pm)

- hard rock cafe (is it still good?)

i think in the following bars most of the girls will be hookers:

cj's (hotel mulia)

b. a. t. s. (hotel shangri la) [/quote]you are correct that bats and cjs are mainly stocked with hookers. it is rare for a single girl to go to these places alone. although it is known for normal girls to go with a group of friends. i know of a couple of girls who do go now and then for ladies night, but not for any commercial reasons. just to have drinks, dance and have fun. not easy to pick up - but possible. red square has many possibilities but make sure you differentiate between the pros and the "civilians" (jad's term) because you do get both there. loewy's, df, immigran, x2 all have potential but how much time do you have?

shopping malls are possibilities, but for me, i prefer somewhere like plaza senayan, plaza indonesia, plaza semanggi and senayan city. someone did tell me (was it you jad?) that pondok indah has possibilities (a bit far out though). grand indo and pacific place seem a bit "cold" to me but the best places are probably where the food courts and eateries are. imho you have to keep your eyes peeled and eye contact and a smile should be a good indicator. anything can happen anywhere. since you're experienced at picking up, i hardly need tell you. you could check the dating websites first and do some early research. good luck.

md ii

[QUOTE=Jkt After Dark 2;1151466]Yap. It's a coffee shop at Pondok Indah Mall 2. Lonely housewife type. - JAKARTA AFTER DARK[/QUOTE]My kind of women! Sounds like Medellin!

[quote=master diver ii; 1151446]you are correct that bats and cjs are mainly stocked with hookers. it is rare for a single girl to go to these places alone. although it is known for normal girls to go with a group of friends. i know of a couple of girls who do go now and then for ladies night, but not for any commercial reasons. just to have drinks, dance and have fun. not easy to pick up. but possible. red square has many possibilities but make sure you differentiate between the pros and the "civilians" (jad's term) because you do get both there. loewy's, df, immigran, x2 all have potential but how much time do you have?

shopping malls are possibilities, but for me, i prefer somewhere like plaza senayan, plaza indonesia, plaza semanggi and senayan city. someone did tell me (was it you jad?) that pondok indah has possibilities (a bit far out though). grand indo and pacific place seem a bit "cold" to me but the best places are probably where the food courts and eateries are. imho you have to keep your eyes peeled and eye contact and a smile should be a good indicator. anything can happen anywhere. since you're experienced at picking up, i hardly need tell you. you could check the dating websites first and do some early research. good luck.

md ii[/quote]thank you md ii for your details.

how good can the girls in jakarta who work in a mall as a sales lady or in an office speak and understand english?

I usually visit Thailand for activities. Never been in Indonesia before. I was thinking of visiting this month as I have quite a few days off.

Is it worth it to visit Indonesia just for pleasure if I have no official business there, thus have to pay all from my own pocket. Thinking whether it would be worth it. Hotel seems expensive then Bangkok or Pattaya.

What is the normal fee for a company? Is there short-term / long-term just like in LOS? Indonesia being a muslim country, wouldn't be our activity be hard to do?

I know RTFF. I did. Still wondering if someone could share some thoughts. I promise to write a full report if I am there.

[QUOTE=Pussycheck; 1151537]Thank you MD II for your details.

How good can the girls in Jakarta who work in a mall as a sales lady or in an office speak and understand English? [/QUOTE]It varies a lot but generally not very well. Of course those working in more upmarket places are more likely to speak English, but the general standard is quite poor. If you have zero bahasa knowledge, I would advise you to learn a few words and phrases. You don't need much, and they love it especially if you screw it up and say something silly. It's also a great opportunity to offer to "teach" English... ;)

[QUOTE=Jkt After Dark 2;1151466]Yap. It's a coffee shop at Pondok Indah Mall 2. Lonely housewife type. - JAKARTA AFTER DARK[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Menteng;1151509]My kind of women! Sounds like Medellin![/QUOTE]It's time for you to pay a visit my sifu; then we can go there together and you can teach me your methods.:D

[QUOTE=Ny Desiman; 1151578]I usually visit Thailand for activities. Never been in Indonesia before. I was thinking of visiting this month as I have quite a few days off.

Is it worth it to visit Indonesia just for pleasure if I have no official business there, thus have to pay all from my own pocket. Thinking whether it would be worth it. Hotel seems expensive then Bangkok or Pattaya.

What is the normal fee for a company? Is there short-term / long-term just like in LOS? Indonesia being a muslim country, wouldn't be our activity be hard to do?

I know RTFF. I did. Still wondering if someone could share some thoughts. I promise to write a full report if I am there.[/QUOTE]To NY.

I just return from jarkata for business I think Thailand is a better place for mongering, it is easier to find action in Bangkok than Jarkata, quality of the girl about the same depend where you go, it is a little cheaper in Jarkata just because the USD is weak vs the bht and one USD + 8600 rph, you can get cheap hotel in jarkata for 40 USD a night

But if you go to Pattaya instead of big city Bangkok Thailand will be cheaper but do give indo a try air fare will be more

Than Bangkok andthe 25 USD visa charge.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=Jkt After Dark 2;1151745]Yap. By the way, how are you doing bro?. JAKARTA AFTER DARK[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Master Diver II]It's time for you to pay a visit my sifu; then we can go there together and you can teach me your methods.[/QUOTE]@JAD: I'm well, thank you!

@MD: You already posses the skills my friend, it only has to ripen. For that you'll have to be and old man like me. And I doubt you would like to be that old. :grin:

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48; 1151737]To NY.

I just return from jarkata for business I think Thailand is a better place for mongering, it is easier to find action in Bangkok than Jarkata, quality of the girl about the same depend where you go, it is a little cheaper in Jarkata just because the USD is weak vs the bht and one USD + 8600 rph, you can get cheap hotel in jarkata for 40 USD a night

But if you go to Pattaya instead of big city Bangkok Thailand will be cheaper but do give indo a try air fare will be more

Than Bangkok andthe 25 USD visa charge.

Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]My approach is always: Where is it easier to fuck non-prostitutes with a decent job (house-maid, sales-lady, office lady, etc.) in Bangkok or Jakarta? In this case Jakarta is much better than Bangkok. In Thailand usually it's difficult to find a girl with a decent job who allows a foreigner (farang) with her after a short time. You have to work on it. In Indonesia in general it's easier I think because indonesian girls do more prefer foreigners than local guys.

[QUOTE=Pussycheck;1152389]My approach is always: Where is it easier to fuck non-prostitutes with a decent job (house-maid, sales-lady, office lady, etc.) in Bangkok or Jakarta? In this case Jakarta is much better than Bangkok. In Thailand usually it's difficult to find a girl with a decent job who allows a foreigner (farang) with her after a short time. You have to work on it. In Indonesia in general it's easier I think because indonesian girls do more prefer foreigners than local guys.[/QUOTE]I've always wondered how to pick up non-pros like house-maids and sales ladies. What do you say, how do you even suggest something? Any Indonesia specific tips Pussycheck?

Had some time this week so decide to check the situation for different weekday.

Wed. First visited TG arriving about midnight. Nice crowd but not too many my type. Hung around til about 2:30am without success, so decided to leave as a lot of girls have left. Once outside decided to check other bars, head over to MyBar across the street. Was not expecting much as previous visits I never found much action. Surprised that all of the girls from TG have moved over to this bar. I guess they're moving around. Finally picked up a nice girl. Asked 500 for ST. Counter with 400 for ST or 700 for LT.

Thu. Visited TG with a business partner arriving about 10 who have never been in TG. Commented it felt like bars in Bangkok but the girls are not as aggressive. Especially the nicer looking ones expects you to approach instead of the other way around. Ratio seems quite good of mostly girls. Less guys. Music was horribly loud for some reason. Could it be the fact it's earlier in the evening? Had a big meeting next day so left about 11:30.

Fri. Visited TG arriving about 1am. Place was a sausage fest. Terrible ratio. Had one drink, remembered lesson from Tue and head across to MyBar. Enjoyed myself chatting up a few girls but decided against.

FYI I'm of Chinese background so get the slight feeling I'm not the target audience for some of the girls. The senior members have any comments?

[QUOTE=Pussycheck;1152389]My approach is always: Where is it easier to fuck non-prostitutes with a decent job (house-maid, sales-lady, office lady, etc.) in Bangkok or Jakarta? In this case Jakarta is much better than Bangkok. In Thailand usually it's difficult to find a girl with a decent job who allows a foreigner (farang) with her after a short time. You have to work on it. In Indonesia in general it's easier I think because indonesian girls do more prefer foreigners than local guys.[/QUOTE]To Pussy check

I been going to Jarkata for 10 yr it is much difficult to find freelance in the mall now than 10 yr ago, I use to get sales girl easy in Artium and plaza Indonesia for 300k over night, you can still find freelancer in club and disco but they are pro that ask for 600k for all night now, I think the philippine is the best place in asia to find freelance now

And you get better GFE there too.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=Theman8;1152500]I've always wondered how to pick up non-pros like house-maids and sales ladies. What do you say, how do you even suggest something? Any Indonesia specific tips Pussycheck?[/QUOTE]I have to say that my missus has always had excellent taste when it comes to choosing maids for our house and invariably hires quite pretty, pleasant young ladies with pert little figures and sweet faces. At one stage we had four of them and I thoroughly enjoyed Sunday afternoon trips to the shopping mall with them all dressed in their smart uniforms, I know I would get many an envious look from other bule blokes.

Needless to say this drives me absolutely crazy, I really wish she'd pick frumpy middle aged old matrons with arms like hams and faces like busted sofas. Because if there's one absolute and rigid rule regarding sex I would adhere to when living in Jakarta (and to be honest I have very, very few rules concerning sex in Jakarta other than to get as much of it as humanly possible) , never, repeat NEVER, fuck about with the hired help. It's an absolute no no and it will only end in extremely unpleasant and unforeseeable ways.

Remember, cheap easy fucks are a dime a dozen in Jakarta, a good maid is worth her weight in gold. Don't ever be tempted to mix the two up.

[QUOTE=Actionjun; 1152659]H.

FYI I'm of Chinese background so get the slight feeling I'm not the target audience for some of the girls. The senior members have any comments? [/QUOTE]Try the Kota area. Chinese are welcome and maybe preferred.

[QUOTE=Ny Desiman;1151578] Is there short-term / long-term just like in LOS? Indonesia being a muslim country, wouldn't be our activity be hard to do?

I know RTFF. I did. Still wondering if someone could share some thoughts. I promise to write a full report if I am there.[/QUOTE]

Yes, there is in Blok M and freelance places like that. Indonesian girls will tell you they are Muslim, but fuck you like they are infidel. There is separation between home life and work life and they don't make a moral connection. Just like Rio WGs are all good Catholic girls on Sunday, but hos on every other day of the week. Every girl in that place has a cover story for her family, she works as a secretary, telefonista, etc while her real job is selling ass. I imagine that girls in JKT do the same. The WG's somehow maintain both personas for whatever reason. For some comparison, consider Rio which is a well known mongering destination and very reputable in the ISG community. I would rather spend a week in JKT vs a month in Rio simply because you can find girls in JKT that do bareback, no problem, and don't act fake like porn stars while doing it like Rio girls. I consider the JKT girls a little understated and classy ,like Japanese girls, but less inhibited. But realize that mongering JKT is not a open party environment like LOS, and you need to be respectful. As others have mentioned, some of the girls in Kota seem to be there by obligation so you need to be careful about who you pick. And instead of wandering past girls who are openly selling P4P like in Patts, in JKT places like Berlain, you are wandering past beggars on your way to the brothel. Not for the softies or party-animals.

[QUOTE=Dorman; 1152915]I have to say that my missus has always had excellent taste when it comes to choosing maids for our house and invariably hires quite pretty, pleasant young ladies with pert little figures and sweet faces. At one stage we had four of them and I thoroughly enjoyed Sunday afternoon trips to the shopping mall with them all dressed in their smart uniforms, I know I would get many an envious look from other bule blokes.

Needless to say this drives me absolutely crazy, I really wish she'd pick frumpy middle aged old matrons with arms like hams and faces like busted sofas. Because if there's one absolute and rigid rule regarding sex I would adhere to when living in Jakarta (and to be honest I have very, very few rules concerning sex in Jakarta other than to get as much of it as humanly possible) , never, repeat NEVER, fuck about with the hired help. It's an absolute no no and it will only end in extremely unpleasant and unforeseeable ways.

Remember, cheap easy fucks are a dime a dozen in Jakarta, a good maid is worth her weight in gold. Don't ever be tempted to mix the two up. [/QUOTE]You would have to be an ozzy with a saying like that Dorman "Face like a busted Sofa". Hehehe I usually say seen better heads hanging over the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] trough. Rule No. 1 "No Pooftas" and Rule No. 2 Don't fu*k the hired help or female work colleagues

[QUOTE=Actionjun;1152659]FYI I'm of Chinese background so get the slight feeling I'm not the target audience for some of the girls. The senior members have any comments?[/QUOTE]I am Chinese also, but not in Nationality. It will happen that some of the women will not be interested just because you are Asian or anything else. You just move on to another woman you have interest in. It's not worth fighting. It sounds like you speak English well, so if you have a good sense of humor and talk to the women, the other women will probably loosen up and you'd be more welcome. If not, just forget about the ones not interested.

[QUOTE=Puta Playa;1152953]Indonesian girls will tell you they are Muslim, but fuck you like they are infidel.[/QUOTE]I had some late afternoon action with an SPG who was getting married in two weeks, when she suddenly pushed me away and told me to wait. The reason? The clock stroke six and the magrib prayers were to begin! After the prayers the action continued. This must sound familiar to many others. :grin:

[QUOTE=Menteng;1153079]I had some late afternoon action with an SPG who was getting married in two weeks, when she suddenly pushed me away and told me to wait. The reason? The clock stroke six and the magrib prayers were to begin! After the prayers the action continued. This must sound familiar to many others. :grin:[/QUOTE]Haha. Last puasa, I had a girl say that she could give me a blow job before magrib and buka, but I couldn't come in her mouth! I'm really not sure what the Holy Book has to say about that!

[QUOTE=Actionjun;1152659]FYI I'm of Chinese background so get the slight feeling I'm not the target audience for some of the girls. The senior members have any comments?[/QUOTE]Blok M bars cater more to bules but, like anywhere with FLs, a lot depends on the individual girls. As another bro pointed out, you'd probably feel more welcome in Kota. IMHO it doesn't matter where you are, if the girls think that you're a fun guy, anything can happen anywhere.:)

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48; 1152871]To Pussy check

I been going to Jarkata for 10 yr it is much difficult to find freelance in the mall now than 10 yr ago, I use to get sales girl easy in Artium and plaza Indonesia for 300k over night, you can still find freelancer in club and disco but they are pro that ask for 600k for all night now, I think the philippine is the best place in asia to find freelance now

And you get better GFE there too.

Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]I would dispute that. But everyone has their own preferences. I personally feel that Pinays are very good at making you feel great, but they NEVER lose sight of what their goal is. Indonesian ceweks can get lost in the moment and enjoy the sex for what it is and let loose and have fun for the sake of having fun.

[QUOTE=Dorman; 1152915]. If there's one absolute and rigid rule regarding sex I would adhere to when living in Jakarta (and to be honest I have very, very few rules concerning sex in Jakarta other than to get as much of it as humanly possible) , never, repeat NEVER, fuck about with the hired help. It's an absolute no no and it will only end in extremely unpleasant and unforeseeable ways.

Remember, cheap easy fucks are a dime a dozen in Jakarta, a good maid is worth her weight in gold. Don't ever be tempted to mix the two up. [/QUOTE]Absolutely spot on - but I think Theman8 and Pussycheck are visitors. Perhaps they could entertain your maids when they're free. Come to think of it, I do visit Jakarta regularly, and you do need to make sure your maids are happy and content.:D

[QUOTE=Menteng;1153079]I had some late afternoon action with an SPG who was getting married in two weeks, when she suddenly pushed me away and told me to wait. The reason? The clock stroke six and the magrib prayers were to begin! After the prayers the action continued. This must sound familiar to many others. :grin:[/QUOTE]I'm a Malay Muslim (practicing albeit not the most rigid or pious) and I find the manner some of the things are done here very strange. But each to their own. Maghrib prayers are taken very seriously and I think her conscience made her respect the prayer period before your charms overpowered her;). I have, however, found myself being a "curhat" in the early hours of the morning (naked in bed with a girl after a vigorous "session") where she asks advice what to do as her fiance is a Christian bule, but she is a practicing Muslim. Hmmm...:)

MD II

[QUOTE=Dorman;1152915]Because if there's one absolute and rigid rule regarding sex I would adhere to when living in Jakarta (and to be honest I have very, very few rules concerning sex in Jakarta other than to get as much of it as humanly possible) , never, repeat NEVER, fuck about with the hired help. It's an absolute no no and it will only end in extremely unpleasant and unforeseeable ways.[/QUOTE]Personally, I tend to agree. But I was talking with a friend, a single, older guy not much given to going out to bars and such, who says he has a deal with his pembantu: he pays her an extra 500k if he wants to have sex with her. It's been going on for quite some months and it seems to be working out ok. A little bit weird, but probably cheaper than getting married.

[QUOTE=Master Diver II; 1151407]Bro,

You're just pissed that I forgot to tell you how to make a tiramisu. If you're going end of May, I might be there. No confirmation yet but let me know and I'll try to match your dates. I might make a tiramisu in Jakarta.

Plenty of women in Jakarta bro but I know what you're up to: you bringing your gf so you can find another girl to do a threesome again right? .

MD II[/QUOTE]MD you know me well. I already have agreement from her for a 3some. So what better place to do this than Jakarta. Maybe a side trip to Bandung. So 26-28th May, be there. But don't you dare try to steal my girl which I know you will try but then she won't fall for your sweet words because this girl took me a year to get into bed unlike the others which was in weeks. Panya you in town?

[QUOTE=Dorman;1152915]I have to say that my missus has always had excellent taste when it comes to choosing maids for our house p.[/QUOTE]I concur. The gig is up when a new Pembantu asks during the interview if servicing the bule is part of the job. Better to hunt elsewhere if have a missus.

Hi guys,

Do yoy guys know graha sehat spa in gajah madah? Seems like plus plus place. Do you have to nogo directly with masseuse? 100K for 2 sessions. During happy hour. Any places you can recommende?

Planning to visit travel hot and the places at lokasari. Is the damage still sround 300k?

My 2 cts bule is king in indo. Special in bule places like blok m2 org kuta Bali. I think its also due because we know the prices and bules can got crazy with prices.

[QUOTE=Master Diver II; 1153310]I would dispute that. But everyone has their own preferences. I personally feel that Pinays are very good at making you feel great, but they NEVER lose sight of what their goal is. Indonesian ceweks can get lost in the moment and enjoy the sex for what it is and let loose and have fun for the sake of having fun.

MD II[/QUOTE]I do absolutely agree with MD II.

I've a lot of experience with Pinays for 12 years now.

There are 2 options with Pinays: Either they want your money or they want your life (marriage).

With indonesian girls I've had experience in Hong Kong only so far. I never have been to Indonesia. All of them were domestic helpers. They offer themselves for having sex not only because of (additional) money (they need of course) but also for their personal relaxation.

[QUOTE=Gonzo Two;1153320]Personally, I tend to agree. But I was talking with a friend, a single, older guy not much given to going out to bars and such, who says he has a deal with his pembantu: he pays her an extra 500k if he wants to have sex with her. It's been going on for quite some months and it seems to be working out ok. A little bit weird, but probably cheaper than getting married.[/QUOTE]Things will get really weird if he brings another girl home then see how the maid handles that scenario. I would be checking under the pillows for knives just in case she wants to give him a second circumcision. Won't work and it will get messy 99. 9% sure. Problem is that we have that primeval gene in us that we need to procreate every chance we have and he has just painted himself into a corner.

[QUOTE=Pussycheck; 1153403]I do absolutely agree with MD II.

I've a lot of experience with Pinays for 12 years now.

There are 2 options with Pinays: Either they want your money or they want your life (marriage).

With indonesian girls I've had experience in Hong Kong only so far. I never have been to Indonesia. All of them were domestic helpers. They offer themselves for having sex not only because of (additional) money (they need of course) but also for their personal relaxation. [/QUOTE]Not wanting to poke my oar into this discussion but I've been mongering in Phils for past 20 plus years, and most of my girls (and I average 4-6 on most of my 3-4 day trips, see reports) are all happy with some nice company, nice food and drink, maybe some nice gifts of clothes and of course good bonking. Very few want money, and none want marriage as I have already attained that state of bliss LOL.

The ceweks that I used to see on my Jakarta trips (see reports) were kind of similar. Happy with good company, nice times, and a good bonk. Strangely, they were similar. And whichever girls, with Pinays or Indon's always great times and I never paid or married any of them.

[QUOTE=Juggernutt; 1153391]Hi guys,

Do yoy guys know graha sehat spa in gajah madah? Seems like plus plus place. Do you have to nogo directly with masseuse? 100K for 2 sessions. During happy hour. Any places you can recommende?

Planning to visit travel hot and the places at lokasari. Is the damage still sround 300k?

My 2 cts bule is king in indo. Special in bule places like blok m2 org kuta Bali. I think its also due because we know the prices and bules can got crazy with prices.[/QUOTE]Is it Gama Sehat that you are referring to?

[QUOTE=Pussycheck; 1153403]I do absolutely agree with MD II.

I've a lot of experience with Pinays for 12 years now.

There are 2 options with Pinays: Either they want your money or they want your life (marriage).

With indonesian girls I've had experience in Hong Kong only so far. I never have been to Indonesia. All of them were domestic helpers. They offer themselves for having sex not only because of (additional) money (they need of course) but also for their personal relaxation.[/QUOTE]To Pussycheck

They all want money don't be naive if you to find freebie go to S korea or Japan but you need to young and good looking, it is the same in Indoneasia all this girl want money and a better life, In Hong kong most domestic worker want sex on their time off is easier to get a freebie but most are not any good looking.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48; 1153561]To Pussycheck

If you to find freebie go to S korea or Japan but you need to young and good looking, it is the same in Indoneasia all this girl want money and a better life, Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]I look fine but I'm certainly not young, being the wrong side of 50. But believe me, I do fine. Theres freebies everywhere, including Manila, Jakarta, Hong Kong, Shanghai, Singapore, KL, Dubai and a few other places that I travel to.

Been a reader of this forum for long and finally spent the 19. 95 for membership.

Reporting from about 6 months back. Went to CJ's since I stay at the Mulia usually. Great hotel BTW and one of the best value for money in SEA.

Band is ok, drinks are priced almost on par with Singapore but overall place is quite nice, but I hate the smoke prevalent in all these bars / restaurants in Indo.

Had a few drinks, bought a few drinks for some cewaks and quoted anywhere from 800K to 1000K. Found a cutie who I wanted to take last time but she was so sloshed that time that I decided against it. This time she was ok for 600K after nego, but ST only and hence decided against it.

Found a tall girl, about 5'7 in black dress, seemed early 30's. Seemed to be good figure, was quoted 700K, countered with 500K which she agreed for LT. Went to room. She gave bath in shower and onto room for action.

She on top with licking all over and wanted to BJ with cover, said no. She said 'bad boy' and proceeded to BBBJ absolutely brilliantly. Cowgirl, missionary followed by doggy. She turned back and asked if I wanted CIM which I have no problems about. Some more sucking followed by CIM. Sucked till dry but went to spit out.

Slept, another session in the morning and good bye with 50K for taxi money. Good experience like always in Jakarta. Friends strongly suggest the Malioboro. Will have to look at it next time.

And thanks to all the regular contributors here who make this an interesting forum. Will try and post whenever possible.

McM

Hi All,

Was in Jakarta some time ago.

Arrived relatively early in the evening from SIN. My original plan was to see my usual freebie, see previous reports in the morning of next day. I arrived early enough to have her come over at around 11PM. We had two rounds of sex. She insisted to stay the night and was pissed when I sent her out in the morning, where I wanted to deal with some personal stuff. I guess, despite her being so hot on me, the whole sexbuddy thing I managed to keep with her has come to an end.

Next evening, I had planned to meet one of my asiandating contacts. Or is it dateinasia. We had been chatting often. And agreed she would come to my room and we'll see. She is 30+, single, works in a bank, has a good lifestyle / standard. So she showed up. 7 30 PM she was knocking at my door. She was as good as in the pics. A bit plump but really cute face and smile, nice eyes. We talked for a while, her eating the food I ordered for her. I guess it took us one hour before we were making out. And another 30 minutes later we were in the sack. Interesting session, if only for the sentiment to have bagged yet another good girl. We had sex twice, and she delivered her best. Which was not something I will remember for the rest of my life. But at least good for that evening and possibly another meet or two. I need to see if I can crack her ass. She left for home at around 1AM. I slept like a baby.

Next evening, had dinner with another chatmate. Around 35. She sent me nice pics, we had fun cam sessions, and agreed to meet. We met at a restaurant she chose. Seaood and stuff. Nice enough, clean. Place is called Indak Pondoh or so. Cheap too, which I appreciated since I let her choose. After dinner, she wanted to go to her place. So here we go in her small suzuki car. I knew her daughter would be there, so there was no panic. Small appartment, daughter nice and well educated. Then we went out and settled to have coffee at a Starbucks. Where we talked and talked. Told me her life story. Told her mine. Well the acceptable version. Until we called it a night. She brought me back to hotel. I decided not to try anything yet. I knew this was not going to be the best way. Sort of felt it. And that paid. Her next sms promises lots of action next time am around. She said I need to stay two days and two nights next time so she can "give me all I want". At 35, I am sure she can quite deliver.

Sure will do.

I packed and went back to BKK next day.

Jakarta delivered again. And promises more.

[QUOTE=Gonzo Two;1150114]Catire, that's kind of funny. I'm well into my forties and still enjoy DF and, even better, Loewey's. I agree with the people who say that it's better to go there with a group of friends, usually a mixed bunch of Indonesians and bules, rather than to treat it as a Blok M bar. I've never pulled at either place, except with one of the women in the group that I arrived there with. They are both cool places to take a girl if she isn't the sort that would be comfortable in Blok M (and that's probably 95% of Indonesian women!) My bet is that you could pull there, whatever your age, if you dressed up a little bit, talked nicely, spoke a bit of Indonesian, and generally felt comfortable in that kind of environment and with the clientele there. A lot of young Indonesian women are quite ok with older guys, they just don't want a fat old bastard wearing shorts and thongs asking them if they'll do anal sex for an extra hundred thousand. It's all about the right approach for the right environment, why'know?[/QUOTE]Hey I agree with you and this statement 100.

I also take no issue with guys who prefer live music. However, I felt compelled to point out that in today's modern club environment, they are the very very very distinct minority. Especially so from a US centric view. It's a little different in developing countries. However, from a US perspective, any younger worth his / her salt "cool" club goer went to clubs with electronice dance music / DJ and has done so since the 1980's and the advent of house music. Personally, I find live non rock based music very queer / strange / cheesy, but that's just me, but then I also hate weddings and dancing at weddings at a banquet hall in a suit or tux. So maybe it's just me, but at least I'm consistent.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1153666]I look fine but I'm certainly not young, being the wrong side of 50. But believe me, I do fine. Theres freebies everywhere, including Manila, Jakarta, Hong Kong, Shanghai, Singapore, KL, Dubai and a few other places that I travel to.[/QUOTE]To freebiefan.

I was replying to pussycheck you can still score freebie in Jarkata just not as easy as it was 10 yr ago, to me China and PI is still the best place to score on freebie.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=McMaiden; 1153677]Been a reader of this forum for long and finally spent the 19. 95 for membership.

Reporting from about 6 months back. Went to CJ's since I stay at the Mulia usually. Great hotel BTW and one of the best value for money in SEA.

Band is ok, drinks are priced almost on par with Singapore but overall place is quite nice, but I hate the smoke prevalent in all these bars / restaurants in Indo.

Had a few drinks, bought a few drinks for some cewaks and quoted anywhere from 800K to 1000K. Found a cutie who I wanted to take last time but she was so sloshed that time that I decided against it. This time she was ok for 600K after nego, but ST only and hence decided against it.

Found a tall girl, about 5'7 in black dress, seemed early 30's. Seemed to be good figure, was quoted 700K, countered with 500K which she agreed for LT. Went to room. She gave bath in shower and onto room for action.

She on top with licking all over and wanted to BJ with cover, said no. She said 'bad boy' and proceeded to BBBJ absolutely brilliantly. Cowgirl, missionary followed by doggy. She turned back and asked if I wanted CIM which I have no problems about. Some more sucking followed by CIM. Sucked till dry but went to spit out.

Slept, another session in the morning and good bye with 50K for taxi money. Good experience like always in Jakarta. Friends strongly suggest the Malioboro. Will have to look at it next time.

And thanks to all the regular contributors here who make this an interesting forum. Will try and post whenever possible.

McM[/QUOTE]To McMaiden,

Very nice report This girl is funny she don't want to give you BBBJ but want you to CIM, one a country I love Jarkata cannot wait to go back, I think Malioboro is a must experience in Jarkata hottest girl in town another one is Hotel travel.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1153666]I look fine but I'm certainly not young, being the wrong side of 50. But believe me, I do fine. Theres freebies everywhere, including Manila, Jakarta, Hong Kong, Shanghai, Singapore, KL, Dubai and a few other places that I travel to.[/QUOTE]To look young is not too important usually especially in these cities.

At which cities you mentioned is it easiest for you to score with freebies? I assume you mean with freebies that the girls do not ask for (fixed) money.

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48; 1153882]This girl is funny she don't want to give you BBBJ but want you to CIM, one a country I love Jarkata cannot wait to go back.

Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]Fast Eddie,

I did not realise the irony until you just pointed it out. Funny!

Maybe I was taking long to cum and she wanted to sleep! I had quite a few and that always delays things for me.

McM

I have only time from about 11 am untill 3 pm. Then I have to go back to my hotel.

Is Malioboro or Hotel Travel better around 2 pm?

I normally only go to Hotel Travel, . Not before 5 pm because then most of the girls arrive.

Are both of the places are already open at 2 pm?

[QUOTE=Hungry Expat; 1154085]I have only time from about 11 am untill 3 pm. Then I have to go back to my hotel.

Is Malioboro or Hotel Travel better around 2 pm?

I normally only go to Hotel Travel, . Not before 5 pm because then most of the girls arrive.

Are both of the places are already open at 2 pm? [/QUOTE]They both suck at 2pm. Pangeran Jayakarta is a better choice for going early like 2pm.

Too many reports, too little time. I will start with tonight. Wednesday night in blok m. Not a great crowd but alot of gems in the crowd. Your weekday bunch are usually the hardcore pros who don't to the day shift during the week. So a more hardened crowd during the weeknights. While I am no seasoned blok m veteran, thanks to the forum I have not been taken to the cleaners.

This night I was looking for young and Chinese with a ass to die for and around 40 kg. Lots of good choices but I still have that young fresh bule look to me so the bidding always starts high. Talked to 2 stunners who wanted 1 jt for st but for a Wednesday and a thin crowd you know the bullshit will follow once you get them back to the room. If they look like a princess and demand princess prices on a Wednesday then drama will usually follow. It is easy to throw them out but better to save time and money to pick a winner out of the crowd.

Made the cycle between the's and Tg and my bar until the crowd got as good as it would get. Seen this short chubby thing at my bar with huge tits and was making eyes, never even noticed her friend. If they work in pairs one will usually speak english will enough ability to carry a conversation.

Talking to 2 pairs at the same time in my bar. The princesses were looking good but wanted 1 jt for short time and I got the other 2 to settle for 700 st. Maybe too much for Wednesday but I was blinded by 2 sets of really big tits.

Once back at my place really nice girls, aggreable and co operative, good BBBJ and everything on the menu. Asked for anal but both declined, even for extra. Stayed 3 hours and worked me dry. I have one sperm left and he is alone and scared. Bodies were ok but the effort made up for the lack of visual appeal.

Don't know the chubby ones name with the huge tits, but you can't miss her, hanging out at the bar at my bar. Pretty face and chubby ass. Her partner named Eka spoke english well and very agreeable. Will give her number to senior members of course.

* one final note. I seen a bule in TG grab a really tiny girl and was being rough with her in the bar. This hurts the rest of us and the girls don't forget this shit. If you want to be a hardass do it when you negotiate. But don't treat the girls rough. You looked like a fool and I am sure at least 50 people shook their heads at you

[QUOTE=Vageterian;1154213]...* one final note. I seen a bule in TG grab a really tiny girl and was being rough with her in the bar. This hurts the rest of us and the girls don't forget this shit. If you want to be a hardass do it when you negotiate. But don't treat the girls rough. You looked like a fool and I am sure at least 50 people shook their heads at you[/QUOTE]I've seen that as well but from Japanese guy. Girl was playing pool in TG and when she was waiting her shot, the guy pulled her to his seat. She was pissed and managed to push him away.

Lots of decent pulls in TG and I enjoy the pool table.

Cheers

[QUOTE=Jakarta After Dark 2; 1154335]Dick Nasty: Drop me a line if you are game for lonely housewives? And how much are you charging? Wew. Hehehe.

JAKARTA AFTER DARK[/QUOTE]Different from Dick Nasty I would not charge anything. I'd consider it a charity-fuck (who taught me that expression?)

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1154169]They both suck at 2pm. Pangeran Jayakarta is a better choice for going early like 2pm.[/QUOTE]It seems that PangJay MP s are really on Jalan Mangga Dua 3, and not on Pangeran Jayakarta itself. Is that correct? I tried RTFF on PangJay and don't see many reviews, and the ones that exist are not very positive reviews.

Last year I tried some early mongering at Hotel Travel and Berlain, about 3 pm. Sucked, few girls and poor service until 5 pm. I didn't know about PangJay and thought damn, Kota is dead for mongering during the day!! Has anyone had good experiences there in PJ?

[QUOTE=Acerboy;1153386]MD you know me well. I already have agreement from her for a 3some. So what better place to do this than Jakarta. Maybe a side trip to Bandung. So 26-28th May, be there. But don't you dare try to steal my girl which I know you will try but then she won't fall for your sweet words because this girl took me a year to get into bed unlike the others which was in weeks. Panya you in town?[/QUOTE]Bro,

I would never touch another bro's girl without permission. I might be going 24th. 27th but haven't confirmed yet. It would be good to meet if you're free at all.

[QUOTE=Jkt After Dark 2;1154335]Dick Nasty: Drop me a line if you are game for lonely housewives?! And how much are you charging? Wew ... hehehe ...JAKARTA AFTER DARK[/QUOTE]I'm interested if they aren't too old or large. My charges vary though - it depends on the woman;). But you know if it crosses below your 100 rating I'm running away!

[QUOTE=Menteng;1154424]Different from Dick Nasty I would not charge anything. I'd consider it a charity-fuck (who taught me that expression?)[/QUOTE]Well it depends on the woman bro. But you've always been generous.:D Are you not coming to visit us sometime?

MD II

[QUOTE=Puta Playa;1154632]Has anyone had good experiences there in PJ?[/QUOTE]Many. You can go there as early as 11am and have a good time.

First night back in Jakarta I headed down to the blok as Tiga puluh prices were just too high. Not a long cab ride to the blok from le meridien. Decided to be choosey and take a few hours to look around. The girls are not shy there for sure and no effort is needed to get a good one. Was looking for the typical indo Chinese spinner and there was a few.

Doing the rouns between all the bars and finally seen one in TG with a navy blue polka dotted dress. Nice shape and legs and big tits. Not the spinner I was looking for. But not hard to reach the bottom of the pot with any asian woman.

She showed me the bra and panties to match her dress and she was looking good. The first warning signs should have been when she said she had twins but by this time I had invested some time with her and she seemed pretty cool.

She said she wanted 500k st and I retorted for 350k plus taxi and a tip if she was a good performer. Not many customers left at the blok at 4 am so she took it and off we went. As soon as the hotel door closed the bullshit starts. I ate bebek for the first time today and I have a headache. Gave her a panadol. BBBJ was the shits and she kept spitting. Slip on the rubber and start and she says finish in 5 mins ok. NO way. Flipped her over and worked her good. Just couldn't look at her stomach, what a mess of stretch marks.

After the first pop I wanted to go again and she said no she wanted a 5 min break, I told her I did not pay her to lay in bed and talk and get ready. Got off the second pop and this was about an hour into the short time. Who knows could have been a bad night for her. But if I am paying for a service I want what I am paying for. Told her she could stay another 2 hours for the full amount or leave now with a reduced fee and she agreed and left.

I am pretty good to the girls always and usually never have a bad time at the blok. She said she was from bandung and worked during the week and makes her own clothing. She has twins. She is a regular at the blok on weekends so if you think you are talking to her, better to walk away. All the times in the blok she was only the second bad one I had. Oh well, win some lose some.

Vag

[QUOTE=Puta Playa;1154632]It seems that PangJay MP s are really on Jalan Mangga Dua 3, and not on Pangeran Jayakarta itself. Is that correct? I tried RTFF on PangJay and don't see many reviews, and the ones that exist are not very positive reviews.[/QUOTE]No, it is not at Mangga Dua 3. It's more to the west. When you enter jl. PangJay at the Sion church, proceed till you see the canal at your right hand side after (!) the bend to the left. Look for the first bridge over that canal. Right at the opposite of the bridge is the entrance to the block. When you enter that block, the only way out is back to PangJay.

[QUOTE=Menteng; 1155132]

[QUOTE=Puta Playa;1154632]It seems that PangJay MP s are really on Jalan Mangga Dua 3, and not on Pangeran Jayakarta itself. Is that correct? I tried RTFF on PangJay and don't see many reviews, and the ones that exist are not very positive reviews[/QUOTE]No, it is not at Mangga Dua 3. It's more to the west. When you enter jl. PangJay at the Sion church, proceed till you see the canal at your right hand side after (!) the bend to the left. Look for the first bridge over that canal. Right at the opposite of the bridge is the entrance to the block. When you enter that block, the only way out is back to PangJay.[/QUOTE]Maybe a map would be a good idea? I know some people find the effort to follow a more or less complicated path description as part of the fun, but I prefer the absolute locacation. I think I am a map freak.

So I have just launched the interactive [b]Bali Monger Map [/b]in the Bali forum, see:

[url=http://www.InternationalSexGuide.info/forum/showthread.php?962-Bali&p=1155084&viewfull=1#post1155084][b]Interactive Google Map[/b][/url]

I could launch the equivalent for Jakarta, if you Jakarta mongers are prepared to fill in the details. I know only of Blok M, so the initial map would be a skeleton.

Let me know!

Cheers,

[i]Barri[/i]

Menteng: I don't mean that your quoted directions for PJ MP are complicated. Your post just happened to appear today, so I took the liberty to use it as an example of path description. No critisism intended!

[QUOTE=Barri; 1155212]Maybe a map would be a good idea? I know some people find the effort to follow a more or less complicated path description as part of the fun, but I prefer the absolute locacation. I think I am a map freak.

So I have just launched the interactive [b]Bali Monger Map [/b]in the Bali forum, see:

[url=http://www.InternationalSexGuide.info/forum/showthread.php?962-Bali&p=1155084&viewfull=1#post1155084][b]Interactive Google Map[/b][/url]

I could launch the equivalent for Jakarta, if you Jakarta mongers are prepared to fill in the details. I know only of Blok M, so the initial map would be a skeleton.

Let me know!

Cheers,

[i]Barri[/i]

Menteng: I don't mean that your quoted directions for PJ MP are complicated. Your post just happened to appear today, so I took the liberty to use it as an example of path description. No critisism intended! [/QUOTE]Not considered as criticism. BTW a good initiative. Maybe a combination of both will serve those who are not good at reading maps.

[QUOTE=Jakarta After Dark 2; 1154335]Jritz: It's been a week. Still waiting for your great reports. .

JAKARTA AFTER DARK[/QUOTE]Yeah sorry master JAD, got a working deadline the whole week. But I promise to write one as soon as tomorrow.

No. I'd never assume you as a devil advocate, but I have suspicions that you might be the devil himself? Hmm hehehe *smile.

[QUOTE=Jakarta After Dark 2; 1155782]Jritz: I just want to inform you that the Beauty Queen. Turned. Model. The one who speaks w / British accent turned out to be a good trophy. She is in one of the man's magazines this month.

An honest comment on your "she enjoyed herself?" statement. I'm sorry to tell you in her interview she said she enjoys a girl better. .

JAKARTA AFTER DARK[/QUOTE]Sounds like a challenge. ;) :p :D

MD II

[QUOTE=Jakarta After Dark 2; 1155782]Jritz: I just want to inform you that the Beauty Queen. Turned. Model. The one who speaks w / British accent turned out to be a good trophy. She is in one of the man's magazines this month.

An honest comment on your "she enjoyed herself?" statement. I'm sorry to tell you in her interview she said she enjoys a girl better. .

JAKARTA AFTER DARK[/QUOTE]In which magazine would that be hmmm FMH or POPULAR.

JAD: wow, really? She sent me email couple days ago saying she was going back to Bali and invited me to look her up if I ever went to Bali. Geez. I don't know if I should be worry, or be happy that she might be open for some threesome idea? Hehehe the later I guess; o! What mag BTW?

Part One.

After such a memorable time in Jakarta last time around, I found myself literally 'looking' for excuses to enable me visiting there again. An opportunity showed itself about 2 weeks afterward. It was a desperate excuse but so was I. A potential new Jakarta sub-contractor for a project I was working on just applied and invited our company to show what they've got. They were willing to do the pitch in Singapore but I 'insisted' to inspect their credibility in their office in Jakarta and convinced my boss to let me look at this matter myself. The boss said okay and even complimented on my pertinence of this matter (hehee, sucker!).

So there I was in a sweet pickle, set to fly back to Jakarta for a dummy mission (fully accommodated) that could be done in mere 4 hrs time but scheduled for two-nighters. And I was like a zombie turned back to life when the plane hit Soekarno-Hatta Airport at last on May 3 morning, embracing the first breath of sweet polluted Jakarta air and raring to go.

Tuesday May 3, 2011.

Around 1. 30pm I was back to the hotel after concluded the day's meeting (politely declined the lunch and entertainment offer, and made appointment to meet again at next day morning). I had previously arranged a 'session' with one of our ISG Fisherman's models on 2pm named Marcelina, so I decided to have a quick lunch from the hotel cafe and ready myself to meet her.

When she finally arrived, I was rather fired up already. The girl was not really look like her pics but overall was still in the stunner category. Around 5'4', rather brown skin (not light as in the pic) , petite body, around 22yo, big round eyes and killer smile. She later claimed she took parts in some local movies (mostly horror) and also was involved in ongoing comedy series on national tv channel, not that those claims in any degree fascinated me but since this was my first 'meal', I was rather horny already when we reached the room.

However, she was quite nervous and I decided to take it slow and built some fun conversations (in bahasa, since she told me that she wasn't confident with her English). Sure enough after a while she became quite comfortable so I proposed to cosy ourselves and moved our little chat to the bed. Now I was hoping to get into the action already, but apparently she really intended to move the talking in the bed (f*). So though now we were in a more intimate level (cuddling, stroking, and stuffs) , we basically were still just talking.

Luckily I got an idea and proposed that we should played some kind of kinky quiz; she would speak to me in Sunda-nese (she was originated from Bandung) and if I could guess the words meaning correctly, I would get a kinky reward. She granted which led to such good laughs over the game that later she would handsomely recompense me by hitting 'the price is right' button twice. The sex itself wasn't too memorable since I was horny already, all that I could remember was she gave me a standard BBBJ and submitted to missionary for the first shot, and then side-banging for the second shot. But I can still remember well of her nice smell, her brown but silky skin, and her sweet laughs. I also remember that we had some fun shower time together afterward.

*for pics of Marcellina you could ask mr Fisherman to release them.

She left around 5pm, and I decided to grab some cocktails in the hotel longue and waited for tonight's catching up with Dick Nasty (DN) and JAD (Jakarta After Dark 2) over dinner and maybe mongering together afterward. Around 7 pm the gang showed up and after lively dinner we agreed to hit the road together.

First venues we looked were around Kota area. There are some bordello bars and massage parlours but we only entered three of these places, I think they were Sarijaya, MTR (?) , and another Bar (forgot the name). The set in these places were almost the same (if not exactly) , first time we entered, I got blown immediately with very loud house music, thick smokes that fried my eyes instantly and the lack of lights also didn't help. So I was practically blind and deaf-mute while inside these places.

The places were quite crowded at the hour (around 9. 30pm). As usual, everybody inside seemed to know JAD and not very long we were ushered by some pimps and introduced to what they claimed to be best selections of WGs in the place. 'Some of the girls were quite okay' said Dick Nasty (I can't confirm it as I was blind at the time) 'but nothing that we couldn't find at Hotel Travel' he added. They also had 'aquariums' and upper floors with rooms for ST (it was around 300k I think).

JAD didn't recommend other places in the area as he said it's not worth seeing and rather crooked. However, he also mentioned that some places in the buildings around the bar complex are available for rent (short or long term) for quite cheap prices. Dick Nasty remarked that it would be great for those who want to make documenters about the night life in this area (haha indeed!). After satisfied with the sight-seeing, we concurred that Hotel Travel was still the better value-for-money and so off there we went.

Reached Hotel Travel around 10. 30pm, inside it was rather active for a Tuesday night. First lounge was rather packed as we entered so we moved to the inner lounge. JAD quickly engaged by some mamasans and before long had busied himself 'interviewing' a pretty young girl (whom mamasan told him as a fresh newcomer). While DN was immediately engaged by one of his regulars and warmly resided with her in a couch. Luckily for me, I didn't saw the two girls I had last time (see my last report) and later was told that they were off-work that day. Good news as I didn't plan to be with the same girls if I can help it.

I was then offered a lean young girl by a mamasan, claimed that she just came to work less than a week. I tended to believe the statement as the girl couldn't be more than 18yo indeed, but I caught no sign of 'good time' of her, almost as if she was being forced to work; no smiles, no eye contacts, just blank (understandable for first timer I guess). Well, I wasn't in the mood for patronizing or any GFEs that night so I had to say no to the mamasan and bid my time looking around and then stepped to the first lounge again. I wanted actions and patience always pays in time.

At the outer lounge, in the right couch set of girls to be exact, I got good vibes from one girl who I was later introduced to the name Valen. She was light skinned, around 21yo, pretty face, and okay body, also unlike most of the wls there who mostly came from Indramayu, she said she came from west kalimantan. So I brought her back to the couch (where DN and his lady were) , ordered drinks and started petty conversations with her. Not for long me and Valen were brewing the idea to make 'rectangular' formation for tonight, so I sent her to fetch two more from her team to come and complete the formation (apparently if you decide to do it with more than one girl at the same time, you can only choose from the same batch). She then came back with two of her friends name Yati (20yo, okay face, great body) , and Vera (21yo, okay face, okay body). At these sight, DN got fired up and decided to make a threesome of his own and later his girl also brought down two of her friends, one for the formation and one for JAD's company (JAD returned to the couch without the new girl he just interviewed – not feeling it from her he told us later). So there we were. 3 blokes and 6 girls squeezed in a tight sofa, some bonding time I must say.

Not long we decided to go to the rooms. I decided to take the spacious room (for obvious reason) and afterward let myself be showered and soaped by three naked ladies (man I actually wish they installed Jacuzzi there, got to be awesome). Later I was told to lay comfortably on the bed and again, enjoy aja. So first they started simultaneously licking all of my body (literally all) and after the tingling sensations was almost unbearable, Valen and Vera got down and took turn for BBBJs, while Yati, who got the best body (round and very firm tits) , continued the licking duty. I didn't want to be starfish, so I initiated some actions of my-own; with my hands I would search, stroke, and squeeze their busts; from time to time I would signalled yati to get closer for me to lick and suck her twins; and my feet were actively rubbing their Vs till they got wet and myself got very hard. Now that I re-imagined the acts again, it must be some sight to behold indeed. Thankfully after having 'some release' in the afternoon, my little bro was not in hurry to shot out.

Valen took the first turn and climbed on top while the other two continued to stroke and lick. She came rather quickly, so Vera took the second turn and climbed. After a while we switched to doggy style and she soon squealed and came strongly. Then it was Yati's turn and we switched to missionary in the hope that I would soon come too. But alas (or should I say YAY) , she was so wet already (as I kept sucking her twins) and was not very long that she also reached her climax. So the turn went back to Valen again and I started flipped her to ride me backward, she came rather longer this time around and said to switch style to missionary as she was tired, I was also getting hot so we switched, and I pulled her feet up and made her thighs together to give more pressure and came at last with her screaming rather loud.

We all just laid down the bed for a while exhausted and I counted 4 condoms had been used and only one was filled. This gave me a moral boost to try with 4 girls next time around hehehe. But I had to work on building my muscles first as my right thigh got sprained a little from this ordeal. FYI, they give you extra half hour for every extra girls you took. So actually I still had around an hour extra, but since I had enough with one shot and with my thigh was little bit sprained, I decided to get out. Gave each girls 100k, but I added 50k more for Valen, with approval from the other two. Overall damage was around Rp1, 225m incld drinks.

When we got out from HT, it was around 1. 30am, and since everybody was rather tired, we decided to call it a day and appointed to gather again later around 7pm. Thus I got back to the room alone, battered but satisfied, and welcomed the much needed rest. I got a packed day ahead and I wanted to be prepared for that. My schedule for tomorrow: 2pm appointment with another Fisherman's model name Vita; 5pm appointment with an artist arranged by my friend; and 7pm appointment with JAD and DN again for our round 2. So ended day 1 for me.

*continued to part two

[QUOTE=Jakarta After Dark 2; 1156544]MD II: Hahaha.

Blacka0: Let me PM you the magazine.

Jritz: Let me get you a copy. I'll pass it to you the next time we meet. .

I showed one of ISG mongers Jakarta below the belt last night. Still dizzy and couldn't concentrate to read your report. Let me read it later.

JAKARTA AFTER DARK[/QUOTE]Yes pleasee that would be gr8t of you could om me THE magazine maybe some extra off THE record pictures would be also come &58373; thanks in advance

[QUOTE=Jritz; 1156418]Part One.

After such a memorable time in Jakarta last time around, I found myself literally 'looking' for excuses to enable me visiting there again. An opportunity showed itself about 2 weeks afterward. It was a desperate excuse but so was I. A potential new Jakarta sub-contractor for a project I was working on just applied and invited our company to show what they've got. They were willing to do the pitch in Singapore but I 'insisted' to inspect their credibility in their office in Jakarta and convinced my boss to let me look at this matter myself. The boss said okay and even complimented on my pertinence of this matter (hehee, sucker!).

So there I was in a sweet pickle, set to fly back to Jakarta for a dummy mission (fully accommodated) that could be done in mere 4 hrs time but scheduled for two-nighters. And I was like a zombie turned back to life when the plane hit Soekarno-Hatta Airport at last on May 3 morning, embracing the first breath of sweet polluted Jakarta air and raring to go.

*continued to part two[/QUOTE]Jritz,

Hahahahahaha. That's the same feeling I get, and it goes the same with my work too. 1 days work turns into 4 days 3 nights.:D

[QUOTE=Jakarta After Dark 2; 1156544]MD II: Hahaha.

Blacka0: Let me PM you the magazine.

Jritz: Let me get you a copy. I'll pass it to you the next time we meet. .

I showed one of ISG mongers Jakarta below the belt last night. Still dizzy and couldn't concentrate to read your report. Let me read it later.

JAKARTA AFTER DARK[/QUOTE]Hey JAD,

I want to see a copy too. I might possibly be there next week or the week after. Hopefully we can arrange to go out, so I'm trying to see if I can squeeze in a 4 night trip (too many bookings otherwise;)).

MD II

JAD: I just e-mailed you. There's rather urgent thing we need to discuss.

JR

[QUOTE=Jritz; 1149948]Liondale: I really admired your insights and couldn't agree more.

Both Smoothy and Catire have some good points and let's not debate and who's right or wrong because from what I see it comes back to one own preferences (some like funky techno some like live musics). Hei the most important is whatever works for you and your game.

As for myself I frequent both of those places (in fact I have Dragonfly's membership and also member of CJ's / anyone needs a table?). I've got to admit thought that when I went to these places, I was with a companion (or sometimes companions.) already, so I just went there to enjoy the place athmosphere, not on hunting mission. In fact, usually my decision to visit which venues was based on the girls' wishes. From my experience, girls who're more outgoing and love to dance (usually westerners bg or latinas) dig Cjs more. While more classy (and glossy) girls who want a good place just to relax and drink dig Dragonfly more. For me I just be there for the spill of their funs hehe.

PS. Anyone ever try new club name Immigrant in Plaza Indonesia? I was recommended this place by a friend last time visiting jakarta, but haven't checked it my self. Heard it's a good pick-ups place. [/QUOTE]Went to Immigrant with a friend last year in August (2010) because he had heard it was supposed to be the new hot spot. This was a Sat night I think, definitely a weekend night, but I found it highly highly disappointing. Crowd was a little on the lame side, the music I thought blew (top 40 type stuff). In my professional opinion (since I've worked in several nightclubs and know the scene) it had all the hallmarks of a place that was NO LONGER the "in spot" to be, and was now desperately surviving on previous reputation and stragglers alone as the cool crowd had left it, as is the case in the natural club life cycle. That same evening, went to Dragonfly which was much better and X2 was very good for a "pedestrian" club. Of course, your mileage and likes / dislikes may differ from mine.

Given it's almost a year later, unless something has drastically changed, I think now it 's likely to completely suck, if it's even still open. (the owners surely sank some dough into the place, I wonder if they recouped their money, much less made a good profit when the times were good. Of course, given their location, they may be locked into an expensive lease.

[QUOTE=Jritz; 1156418]Part One.

After such a memorable time in Jakarta last time around, I found myself literally 'looking' for excuses to enable me visiting there again. An opportunity showed itself about 2 weeks afterward. It was a desperate excuse but so was I. A potential new Jakarta sub-contractor for a project I was working on just applied and invited our company to show what they've got. They were willing to do the pitch in Singapore but I 'insisted' to inspect their credibility in their office in Jakarta and convinced my boss to let me look at this matter myself. The boss said okay and even complimented on my pertinence of this matter (hehee, sucker!). [/QUOTE]Again a great report! But be careful. Your introduction to this report is very treacherous. A fellow ISG member could be working at the same company or is your boss and recognize you.

[QUOTE=Smoothy; 1149925]Hmmmmmm That's a good theory. Live music has been out of style for 30 years? I wasn't old enough to drink 30 years ago so I'm not sure what the rage was back then, but I'll take your word for it being hot back then. I was 33 when I first came to Jakarta and back then could basically get any girl I wanted anywhere I went. Ya, I'm about 10 years older now and the girls don't flock like they used to. However, when I first arrived, I thought places similar to DragonFly (which didn't exist back then) sucked back then just like they do now. I've always liked places with live music better than places like Dragonfly where they have nothing to offer other than standing around listening to music played by a dj and no dancing. If there were girls popping their boobs out there for some entertainment, it would be ok. But that doesn't happen. I just don't see what entertainment value that place offers that you can't find anywhere.

Best place in Jakarta (in my opinion) was the old Hard Rock prior to it moving out of Sarinah. Hookers were in the bar area to the right and the "nice girls" were either upstairs or to the left or center so it was easy to know who was who. Haha. The bands there always got the crowds dancing (fairly rare to see that in Jakarta actually). By 2am, everyone was dancing on top of the tables. That place truly rocked. Sucks now that it's in EX though. Shame really.

Right now, I'd say CJ's is the best place in town. But the dance floor is pretty lame.

Dragonfly ain't for me. I doubt it would have been for me when I was 21 either. [/QUOTE]I forgot to reply to this.

Yes, outside of the US, live club music remains far more popular than back stateside. However, the big trend in clubs has been to play Electronic Dance Music (starting with 80's synth stuff and then house music) ever since the mid 80's. I know because I started sneaking into clubs at that time and then worked in several after I turned legal.

The cool "in" places now will play progressive / trance. No live music with cheesy pop covers thank you though I'll grant you that Indo girls / women will still love those very very painful cheesy shows at CJ's.

Bottom line though is that even in the developing world, the "in" places have modeled themselves after the US and London, etc. Why do all the "cool" places in Bali play trance / progressive? Why do thousands of people flock to Stadium and Millenium, especially on weekends? Is it to hear good "live bands" doing cheesy pop covers, etc?

Please.

the younger people around the world, whether it's good or not can be debated, continue to be heavily influenced by Western, especially American cultural influence.

All this said, you certainly have a right to your tastes / preferences.

[QUOTE=Menteng;1156690]Again a great report! But be careful. Your introduction to this report is very treacherous. A fellow ISG member could be working at the same company or is your boss and recognize you.[/QUOTE]Would be appropriate if it's the boss. That would enable joint mongering with an excuse of new business development. How have you been Menteng. Am holed up in a remote place in Africa for next couple of months and missing Jakarta. I guess will go berserk when I return back July end.

[QUOTE=Catire; 1156689]Went to Immigrant with a friend last year in August (2010)

Given it's almost a year later, unless something has drastically changed, I think now it 's likely to completely suck, if it's even still open. (the owners surely sank some dough into the place, I wonder if they recouped their money, much less made a good profit when the times were good. Of course, given their location, they may be locked into an expensive lease.[/QUOTE]I started going to immigrant on my Jakarta trips when it first opened. Then it was cool. Hard to find at first but cool once there. I took many "freebies " Can recall many interesting evenings out on the balcony prompting a gal to use the telescope which invariably got focused on the hotel opposite or to the side. People are inherrently nosy and you could always find a man and woman in a room about to or having previously got it on. Set the mood well for a freebie night LOL. Anyways after a year or so the bar always seemed to have some sort of private party going on and was way way less of an attraction to visit. Nice concept, well detailed, great layout, but it kind of lost its way. Havtn been there for a year now.

[QUOTE=John Aldrich;1156802]Would be appropriate if it's the boss. That would enable joint mongering with an excuse of new business development. How have you been Menteng. Am holed up in a remote place in Africa for next couple of months and missing Jakarta. I guess will go berserk when I return back July end.[/QUOTE]I'm fine, thank you John. Though not very active in p4p action as Medellin women are very approachable. BTW, I was referring to the word "sucker" as a possible "threat" in JRitz's terrific FR.

[QUOTE=Catire;1156692]Why do thousands of people flock to Stadium and Millenium, especially on weekends?[/QUOTE]To get their ecstacy fix.

It seems the good band at CJ's has gone to Penang now, so it's no longer the venue of choice for me.

[QUOTE=Vageterian; 1154945]First night back in Jakarta I headed down to the blok as Tiga puluh prices were just too high. Not a long cab ride to the blok from le meridien. Decided to be choosey and take a few hours to look around. The girls are not shy there for sure and no effort is needed to get a good one. Was looking for the typical indo Chinese spinner and there was a few.

Doing the rouns between all the bars and finally seen one in TG with a navy blue polka dotted dress. Nice shape and legs and big tits. Not the spinner I was looking for. But not hard to reach the bottom of the pot with any asian woman.

She showed me the bra and panties to match her dress and she was looking good. The first warning signs should have been when she said she had twins but by this time I had invested some time with her and she seemed pretty cool.

She said she wanted 500k st and I retorted for 350k plus taxi and a tip if she was a good performer. Not many customers left at the blok at 4 am so she took it and off we went. As soon as the hotel door closed the bullshit starts. I ate bebek for the first time today and I have a headache. Gave her a panadol. BBBJ was the shits and she kept spitting. Slip on the rubber and start and she says finish in 5 mins ok. NO way. Flipped her over and worked her good. Just couldn't look at her stomach, what a mess of stretch marks.

After the first pop I wanted to go again and she said no she wanted a 5 min break, I told her I did not pay her to lay in bed and talk and get ready. Got off the second pop and this was about an hour into the short time. Who knows could have been a bad night for her. But if I am paying for a service I want what I am paying for. Told her she could stay another 2 hours for the full amount or leave now with a reduced fee and she agreed and left.

I am pretty good to the girls always and usually never have a bad time at the blok. She said she was from bandung and worked during the week and makes her own clothing. She has twins. She is a regular at the blok on weekends so if you think you are talking to her, better to walk away. All the times in the blok she was only the second bad one I had. Oh well, win some lose some.

Vag[/QUOTE]You handled her very well, I truly agree with your management hehe. Some has attitudes that can't be tolerated. Well done Vag

I am in Jakarta for the weekend, if anybody would want to catch and go hunting is most welcomed.

Man jritz stole my thunder. Love your report mate. Have to say when I was ini travel, was disapointing. Not so many choices. Very quiet unlike during ramadan. Than ht is place to be. The place I actually prefer is hotel classic. It has imports lounge, local lounge and of course karaoke. What I like here. AvIlability of sexy dancer. Topless. There are way more choices here. Ps jritz. Threesome is 2 gals and 1 guy. What you. Did. 3 gals. Pure porno?

Otherwise recommended places malioboro and alexis. No chance to head there yet. Other spot is mutiara area. When I. Was there it was flooded. A few places next to each other. My friend told me. The chicks To these spots are alot the same. Get rotated. Ps guys is tc still the place to be for the fresh meat? Lower quality servicem but thats due to inexperience. Anyway this place is so. Much fun. Love erv Jakarta. Any old bros who remember me. You. Guys a still meet up to play pool? Now ini Bali. So much to do so little time. Happy hunting why'all

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1157232]To get their ecstacy fix.[/QUOTE]You are CORRECT, sir!

Now the question becomes why don't they want to do X while listening to cheesy pop songs performed "live".

I am on my way to Jakarta and possibly Bali, and I have a few questions.

I have often used the Date in Asia (DIA) website to meet Filipinas. The web site makes it like shooting fish in a barrel to get laid in the Philippines, even for a 50+ year old like myself. About 30% of the girls are ready to fuck you from the first pm (and most of the rest will tell you this through pms before you meet them).

I have noticed that the Jakarta profiles are a little more sophisticated than the pinay profiles. Is there a real difference in using DIA to find non or semi-pro sex in Jakarta? If I pm 20 girls the week before I go, will I have a half dozen lined up for sex?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Forest; 1157859]I am on my way to Jakarta and possibly Bali, and I have a few questions.

I have often used the Date in Asia (DIA) website to meet Filipinas. The web site makes it like shooting fish in a barrel to get laid in the Philippines, even for a 50+ year old like myself. About 30% of the girls are ready to fuck you from the first pm (and most of the rest will tell you this through pms before you meet them).

I have noticed that the Jakarta profiles are a little more sophisticated than the pinay profiles. Is there a real difference in using DIA to find non or semi-pro sex in Jakarta? If I pm 20 girls the week before I go, will I have a half dozen lined up for sex?

Thanks[/QUOTE]Well I am late 30's and usually nail everyone first or second date out. Or you will just meet flat out working girls who will quote prices right away, DIA is DIA where ever you go. You should have the same success or better. Really doesn't matter what the profile says. If they are looking for marriage, well that would be ideal wouldn't it. Doesn't mean they won't fool around until Mr Right comes along. You could be Mr Right now. Although the indo women are definately as aggressive as the pinay, you should still have much success. If you are a foreigner in Jakarta it is a lock to get laid np. Good luck

Vag

[QUOTE=Forest; 1157859]I am on my way to Jakarta and possibly Bali, and I have a few questions.

I have often used the Date in Asia (DIA) website to meet Filipinas. The web site makes it like shooting fish in a barrel to get laid in the Philippines, even for a 50+ year old like myself. About 30% of the girls are ready to fuck you from the first pm (and most of the rest will tell you this through pms before you meet them).

I have noticed that the Jakarta profiles are a little more sophisticated than the pinay profiles. Is there a real difference in using DIA to find non or semi-pro sex in Jakarta? If I pm 20 girls the week before I go, will I have a half dozen lined up for sex?

Thanks[/QUOTE]To Forest,

I been to Jarkata and Manila many time the last 10 yr, it is much harder to find nonpro in jarkata this day, I just return from Jarkata I use to find freelance and nopro at all the mall in Jarkata and pick up sale lady at the mall, you will have much better luck in Manila DIA more girl are looking for boyfriend and husband, I think indo girl are more picky looking for younger guys.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=Forest; 1157859]I am on my way to Jakarta and possibly Bali, and I have a few questions.

I have often used the Date in Asia (DIA) website to meet Filipinas. The web site makes it like shooting fish in a barrel to get laid in the Philippines, even for a 50+ year old like myself. About 30% of the girls are ready to fuck you from the first pm (and most of the rest will tell you this through pms before you meet them).

I have noticed that the Jakarta profiles are a little more sophisticated than the pinay profiles. Is there a real difference in using DIA to find non or semi-pro sex in Jakarta? If I pm 20 girls the week before I go, will I have a half dozen lined up for sex?

Thanks[/QUOTE]Answered the same question from another guy just a few pages back.

I had as much success on DIA Jakarta as I do in DIA Manila. And if you read my reports I've had many many many in Manila. Only one I couldn't nail in Jakarta wanted to meet me in another city ("this is Indonesia Freebie, my reputation would go if someone saw me going into your hotel" ). How in a city of 15 million plus people this girl thought she would be seen I don't know. But I managed many many many in Jakarta all through DIA and Tagged. If you are nice and polite and honest (if married, tell them you are gets you extra points!)

[QUOTE=Jakarta After Dark 2; 1157321]Jritz: Another great report bro. Hillarious. .

I believe you have my number. You should have text'ed me so I could respond in timely manner.

Talk to you later!

JAKARTA AFTER DARK[/QUOTE]JAD,

PM me your number. Your inbox is full. Maybe we can meet for dinner during my trip to Jakarta.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1158775]Answered the same question from another guy just a few pages back.

I had as much success on DIA Jakarta as I do in DIA Manila. And if you read my reports I've had many many many in Manila. Only one I couldn't nail in Jakarta wanted to meet me in another city ("this is Indonesia Freebie, my reputation would go if someone saw me going into your hotel" ). How in a city of 15 million plus people this girl thought she would be seen I don't know. But I managed many many many in Jakarta all through DIA and Tagged. If you are nice and polite and honest (if married, tell them you are gets you extra points!) [/QUOTE]Absolutely agree with you bro.

MD II

Has anyone tried calling any of the 'Massage' offers as advertised in the 'Jakarta Post'?

Places like "Abbigail Cheryl Special Massage";"Al Lena Mssg Models for Expats";"Allissa massage";"Magnolia Massage' etc.

They offer to come to your hotel or apartment.

Whats is the deal and is it to be recommended?

I am staying at the JW Marriott, and went to a massage place in a local Plaza yesterday, and the girl on reception looked pretty & was talking to another OK girl.

The OK girl showed me to my cubicle & she left as I got stark bollock naked and lay face down on the massage bed. Two minutes later I hear a deep voice, and I realised I was getting a male masseur.

Actually the massage was pretty good. Needless to say it was all above board. Thank fuck!

Damage Rp90, 000

[QUOTE=Nobbin; 1159433]Has anyone tried calling any of the 'Massage' offers as advertised in the 'Jakarta Post'?

Places like "Abbigail Cheryl Special Massage";"Al Lena Mssg Models for Expats";"Allissa massage";"Magnolia Massage' etc.

They offer to come to your hotel or apartment.

Whats is the deal and is it to be recommended? [/QUOTE]Hop in a bluebird, go down the street to the Shangrila Hotel after dinner, walk down to BATS and pick someone up to bring home - it'll be less than answering any of the advertisements, you'll see what you get and maybe even in for a pleasant surprise!

[QUOTE=Nobbin; 1159433]Has anyone tried calling any of the 'Massage' offers as advertised in the 'Jakarta Post'?

Places like "Abbigail Cheryl Special Massage";"Al Lena Mssg Models for Expats";"Allissa massage";"Magnolia Massage' etc.

They offer to come to your hotel or apartment.

Whats is the deal and is it to be recommended?

I am staying at the JW Marriott, and went to a massage place in a local Plaza yesterday, and the girl on reception looked pretty & was talking to another OK girl.

The OK girl showed me to my cubicle & she left as I got stark bollock naked and lay face down on the massage bed. Two minutes later I hear a deep voice, and I realised I was getting a male masseur.

Actually the massage was pretty good. Needless to say it was all above board. Thank fuck!

Damage Rp90, 000[/QUOTE]I hate "Lucky Dips" as T1234 recommends is cheaper and better as I'm sure you will be looking at 1. 5m ++.

Never tried it and never will as have too much pussy on tap as is.

[QUOTE=Nobbin; 1159433]Has anyone tried calling any of the 'Massage' offers as advertised in the 'Jakarta Post'?

Places like "Abbigail Cheryl Special Massage";"Al Lena Mssg Models for Expats";"Allissa massage";"Magnolia Massage' etc.

They offer to come to your hotel or apartment.

Whats is the deal and is it to be recommended? [/QUOTE]There were some reports in the past and not positive ones. Complaints like: the time starts when they leave their place; a whole different girl than specified will appear and they will still charge you for taxi money; they arrive late so it may mess up your planning for the rest of the day / night; etc, etc.

T1234 is right and places like Delta or Sumo can cater to your wishes.

[QUOTE=Menteng; 1159543]There were some reports in the past and not positive ones. Complaints like: the time starts when they leave their place; a whole different girl than specified will appear and they will still charge you for taxi money; they arrive late so it may mess up your planning for the rest of the day / night; etc, etc.

T1234 is right and places like Delta or Sumo can cater to your wishes. [/QUOTE]Thanks guys. I just called one of the numbers and was quoted Rp800, 000. So I am getting in a cab and going to check out BATS. More later.

BTW Menteng, I have not ome across Sumo or Delta. Can you shed a bit more light!

Three days to go! So still scope.

As advised I jumped in a cab just after midnight and was at the Shang in 10 minutes (Rp20, 000). Walked into BATS and paid Rp115, 000 entrance fee which included a decent pint of 'Bintang'.

The place was heaving with totty, and almost immediately a PYT standing near the bar made eye contact and we struck up a conversation. She was rather nice, but when her friend came over and distracted her, I decided to go walk-about, to view some of the other merchandise. I bumped into another friendly (aren't they all) girl on my way around the bar. On the way back she was hovering so I decided to chat.

In no time we were in a taxi on the way to my hotel, but this time the driver decided to take the 'scenic route' and the cost was Rp25, 000. The distance back was shorter as there was no U-turn involved. Needless to say no tip for him!

Ten seconds in the room and all the kit was off, and I suggested we take a shower as I was hungry, and needed to eat something furry!

After drying off she presented herself on the bed the way any decent self respecting woman would 'spread – eagle' fashion.

I suggested a few snaps, but she said 'No'. I said 'No face – only fanny', she still said 'No', and then started to quiz me about my 'collection'! Not wishing to purse this line, I quit as I only had my mobile phone, which has no flash so the end result would have been pretty crummy anyway.

She then proceeded with a BBBJ, and in between gulps we discussed the merits of a condom or otherwise. It appeared that she was flexible on use or not!

I tried to persuade her to take my complete shaft in her mouth, but she struggled with this. Then I figured I would like to try a throat fuck as I have never really done it before, so I swirled her around and got her head over the end of the bed. I only got a couple of plunges in before she said she was going to vomit. Not wanting to make a mess on the carpet, I got her back in the X position, and proceeded to explore the furry triangle.

It was when I got close to it I realised the odour was not to my liking, so I suddenly lost my appetite for DATY. At this moment I also decided that there was no way I was putting my pecker into her without a cap!

I quickly rolled on a rubber and entered her love tube missionary position, but soon the pong got worse, and as ever when this happens, I just lost my ardour, if you know what I mean!

I suggested she see a doctor for this problem, and she agreed but said she didn't have money to go see a doctor. Here we go, I thought, but I stated 'I shall give you some as you need to get that sorted, and take good care of your 'money box'!

I rolled off the condom & washed my knob, and I suggested she should clean up and go, which she did.

I laid out Rp300, 000 near her handbag whilst she was showering, and when she was ready she gratefully scooped it up without batting an eyelid.

Not the best deal I have ever had as there was no dividend for me, but at least I did get a good nights sleep, and I can tick the box; 'been there / done that'!

Total damage Rp470, 000, which is probably a better deal than calling one of the massage offers from the Jakarta Post at Rp800, 000 & you don't know what you will end up with!

Now what should I do today / this evening I wonder?

Any good suggestions out there?

Over and out.

Nobbin

[QUOTE=Nobbin; 1159549]Thanks guys. I just called one of the numbers and was quoted Rp800, 000. So I am getting in a cab and going to check out BATS. More later.

BTW Menteng, I have not ome across Sumo or Delta. Can you shed a bit more light!

Three days to go! So still scope. [/QUOTE]Nobbin,

You might get someone telling you to RTFF soon. Delta and Sumo have been covered her in abundance (hence a thread search would deal with it). However as you're a fellow KL resident, I'll give you a quick heads up: both Delta and Sumo are spas but Delta has only HJ and some "auto roaming";) (depending on your luck and skill) and I believe Sumo has more complete packages. If you do go to Delta, take a triple session which gives ample time to have a massage, mandi lulur and very pleasant HJ - quite often with you facing down, and your thighs on their thighs:D. If you can chat well enough with the girl, you might get her number and a chance to meet her outside for further completion (not easy but possible). Some of them are really quite cute. A tip is expected. Especially if you enjoyed the "service" (maybe 50-100k depending). I haven't been to Sumo so you'll have to do a thread search. Incidentally there is a Delta within 5 minutes taxi ride of your hotel (as long as there's no macet) on Gatot Subroto.

If you're curious about advertisements, you might want to check out the ads on JAD's website (Jakarta After Dark) , I think he might have more ads than the Jakarta Post. But there are so many other possibilities and like a lot of the guys here, I prefer to see what I'm going to spend the night with before committing so it's best to avoid arranging to meet girls in your hotel room (no comments please Jad:p). Do not spoil the market and stick to the rates you can read about here. Have fun.

MD II

Many thanks MD II,

You are correct. I usually do but I was in a hurry to get out as it was midnight already!

In fact I have just been scouring the forum for info on whether or not the Melawati Hotel is still in operation, and note the last post was a month or two ago, indication that it was closing down for some major repairs!

I just called the number given in the forum, and it was answered by 'Hello,", & I asked if the massage was still open, and that was as far as we got. So I still don't know!

I am going over to Blok M Plaza later and thought I could kill 2 birds with one stone; so to speak!

[QUOTE=Master Diver II; 1159752]Nobbin,

You might get someone telling you to RTFF soon. Delta and Sumo have been covered her in abundance (hence a thread search would deal with it). However as you're a fellow KL resident, I'll give you a quick heads up: both Delta and Sumo are spas but Delta has only HJ and some "auto roaming". (depending on your luck and skill) and I believe Sumo has more complete packages. If you do go to Delta, take a triple session which gives ample time to have a massage, mandi lulur and very pleasant HJ. Quite often with you facing down, and your thighs on their thighs. If you can chat well enough with the girl, you might get her number and a chance to meet her outside for further completion (not easy but possible). Some of them are really quite cute. A tip is expected. Especially if you enjoyed the "service" (maybe 50-100k depending). I haven't been to Sumo so you'll have to do a thread search. Incidentally there is a Delta within 5 minutes taxi ride of your hotel (as long as there's no macet) on Gatot Subroto.

If you're curious about advertisements, you might want to check out the ads on JAD's website (Jakarta After Dark) , I think he might have more ads than the Jakarta Post. But there are so many other possibilities and like a lot of the guys here, I prefer to see what I'm going to spend the night with before committing so it's best to avoid arranging to meet girls in your hotel room (no comments please Jad.). Do not spoil the market and stick to the rates you can read about here. Have fun.

MD II[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nobbin; 1159753]Many thanks MD II,

In fact I have just been scouring the forum for info on whether or not the Melawati Hotel is still in operation, and note the last post was a month or two ago, indication that it was closing down for some major repairs!

I just called the number given in the forum, and it was answered by 'Hello,", & I asked if the massage was still open, and that was as far as we got. So I still don't know!

I am going over to Blok M Plaza later and thought I could kill 2 birds with one stone; so to speak! [/QUOTE]Can confirm Maribaya massage at Hotel Melawai is still open, major renovations are scheduled for August over Rahmadan. Still runned down as ever, let's hope after the renovations it's better.

Thanks MrBill,

Hope to get a chance to try it out later or perhaps go over for a pop tomorrow before midday!

[QUOTE=MrBill1963;1159787]Can confirm Maribaya massage at Hotel Melawai is still open, major renovations are scheduled for August over Rahmadan. Still runned down as ever, let's hope after the renovations it's better.[/QUOTE]

i can't believe i have been here for 10 days and i have just discovered the maribaya massage at hotel melawai!

i went along today around 4; 30pm & i took a while to find the place as the front is being spruced up, and the name only becomes apparent as you walk past the front door!

went in and straight up to floor 6. it all looked a bit dark, but immediately could see a number of girls all crazy to have my body.

i had a peep in the bar & saw three of four caucasians having a beer and a chat. i quickly saw a pleasant voluptuous lady, and choose her. she said her name was lala, and she was a real delight.

we immediately went to a room & yes it wasn't 5* luxury, but just ok. i always like to see a clean towel / sheet on the bed, but that didn't appear to be available!

we immediately had a squeeze and a cuddle, and i asked "what's the deal, this is my first time here"!

she said rp500k for everything. sounded ok to me & i figured i was going to have a good time.

we had a shower as i was hot and sticky from my wandering around & then she spent about 30 minutes massaging my legs & back, but as soon as she flipped me over that was it.

she started gobbling me straight away (bbbj). then we had a bit of 69, and a titty fuck, (as you know you can't do that with a girl who has two pimples on her chest) before moving on to the real thing. doggy first, and it was a lovely sight looking down on her third eye!

i asked if i could whack it up her ass, but she wasn't keen. however she didn't mind having half my thumb up there for a while!

she really was a delight & then we switched to missionary. she had her feet in the air & then put them down on the bed and did a counter bucking action. lovely. needless to say it didn't take that long before i hit the vinegar stroke.

then showered again, gave her the 500k rups as requested plus a rp50, 000 tip.

to be honest if i was here longer, i wouldn't mind making her a regular. lovely girl, and i left a happy chappy!

Haven't logged in for a while.

@MDII: Hahaha bro, in this case it's true that: "pervert minds think alike".

@Catire: Thanks for the info bro. Hasn't got the chance to check it again last time but looks like not worth seeing afterall.

@Menteng: Hahaha I won't worry about that sir. The day my boss started using internet would be the day we all started using trasporter like in the startrek era.

@Juggernutt: well porno is overrated anyway hahaha and I believe the term is foursome. Hotel Classic is also fine place though hasn't visited there for sometime now.

@Nobbin: Hei if you enjoy a good mixture of sensual massages with reasonable price, you might want to check out the spa in Orchard Hotel (basement) behind Sheraton Hotel at Gunung Sahari.

In the meantime I will finish the part 2 report tonight.

* Part 2.

Wednesday May 4, 2011.

Woke up refreshed and immediately swept over my ass to the work appointment, and this time I had to accept the lunch offer, as it would be quite rude of me to decline their offer twice. So it was situated that around 1. 50pm I found myself still on my way back to the hotel, when Fisherman informed me that the Lady had been waiting already for me at the lobby.

I got to the lobby around 2. 15pm and was feeling bad to let a beautiful lady waiting for me. I hurriedly looking for her, and when finally met her I was quite surprised that this chick was nothing like the pics I got from Fisherman at all. This girl was okay but I was surprised to find her instead what I agreed on with Fisherman (what gives?). But since she still looked reasonably beautiful (around 22yo, she had rather round but sensual body, big busts and quite pretty face and big round eyes, in a sense she reminded me to Indonesian artist, Sarah Azhari. Not my type though) but I felt rather guilty for running late, so I decided not to cancel the whole thing and invited her to the hotel longue first to have some drinks and to see what she had to offer. However, she insisted to go straight to the room instead, saying she needed to go to campus (apparently she still in school) around 3pm. I was thinking WTF that practically just left me with only an hour to work her out? She apparently sensed that I didn't take it well about the time constraint, so she tried to convince me that the experience with her would be worth the little time we had. So I was finally willing (actually it was the stupid dick that willing) to try and off we go to my room.

Entering the room she quickly positioned herself on the bed and asked for the lights to be turned off. I asked whether we should get to shower first, but she said no need. We got undressed and I followed her to the bed. We proceeded with some half-arsed kisses, and I got to say after she got naked, I could understand why she want the light to be dimmed, the girl definitely could benefit from some weight-loss programs since there's no way for someone who claimed to be on modeling business could ever survive with those kind of tummy and cellulites she had. What more was when I started grabbed her twins; she started to let out some of the most faked pleasure voices I ever heard, almost like singing I daresay and definitely a turn-off. So I just stopped and asked her to do the favour of waking up my little bro again by giving him a BBBJ. She replied with a simple no (surprise, surprise). She didn't do any BJ let alone BBBJ she said. Now for those who've known me might know that I was rather easy going and seldom retort to anger. But I was pissed at that time, so I sarcastically asked her what she proposed us to do then. She said to me just to finish the business while she just laid down there like a dead fish. I said I wasn't in the mood and needed some time to think it over. She said she couldn't wait around and had to go for school soon. So I told her don't bother to wait, get dressed and that she could go fuck-off immediately.

She was worry (really?) and asked whether I was angry to her. I said I was indeed angry but not really to her, it was true because after some thoughts I realized it wasn't really all her fault, she did what she always does I guess. So I was angry more toward the agents (who didn't do his job to send me the right girl, and who didn't do his job on screening their girls service) and partly also toward myself since I was ignoring all the 'wrong' signals from beginning. So after she left around 3pm, I tried to cool down and then confront Mr. Fisherman about this matter.

He was genuinely surprised about it and after some time offered me some proposals to tender my injury. He offered me to have dinner on him with Marcelina (the girl I booked yesterday) and also that he would send me another model escort he had for free. So I personally applauded him for being a gentleman, and considered the matter's done between us. However, I had to refuse his remunerations since my scheduled was packed already and also because I'm not 'the getting second free for the bad first' kind of person. I doubt I will ever use his agency service again.

In a somewhat sully mood, I decided to get ready for my next 5pm appointment and waited for her in the longue over coffee. 5 pm sharp, she came (really appreciate girls who appreciate time) and immediately the bad event that occurred just before was long forgotten to the edge of universe. Karma does pay big time. Her name was Bee, around 25 yo I guess, tall (a catwalk model) , exotic face, cosmic body (*winks at JAD) and such captivating eyes.

We spent some time in the longue talking and enjoying some wine. I must say this girl's personality really shone through, definitely not your average girls next door; she was the kind of girl you could proudly bring to meet the president, oh right she already met the president. Well educated, comfortable with herself, natural beauty and effortless classy. I would even think that I had to bring my level up a bit to keep up with her (in contrary to the usual leveling down for the average WLs). I mean we even debated over some flaws under Krugman's economic model at some point. Before we realized we already spent almost an hour talking just about everything. I seldom experienced this, but at the time I really was having a major turn on while talking in intellectual level (last time it happened was during a hot professor lectures in my college days). Thanks to the red wine I guess, apparently she was having one too as she signaled me time to go to the room.

In the room, we conversed more intimately; she said she loves Madmen and Californication TV series which I thought very cool and also showed that she had some kinkiness as well. We laughed and cuddled on the sofa over some cocktails. After a while she excused herself to use the bathroom and came out a moment later with just her undies on (man remembering her body now almost got me a nosebleed). She sneaked in to the bed and signaled me sultrily with her finger to join her.

In the bed we started with great DFKs (well, great for me anyway) as we undressed each other, and being a gentleman (yeah right) , I proposed to go down on her first. As classy as her outer looked like, she got totally different attitudes in the bed. She was wild and not shy to utter her pleasures loudly (even occasionally screams). And God she smelled so nice, even her tits tasted sweet and as I went for DATY on her I could tell she really was in real pleasure unlike the fake ones I had before (*snorts) as I could spot some goosebumps on her hands and legs. She was clean shaven down there and as she got really wet, it tasted like strawberries (I swear it) , I told her and asked what she used down there but she just laughed saying I was being sweet and said she couldn't stand it anymore and flipped me and took the turn going down. After a while she put the rubber on, started to climb for cowgirl position and she rode me hard. Not long she came and getting shaky in the top, so I pushed her down and changed to missionary. When she came again it was like eruption and during which she gave me quite a scratch on my back.

It was getting really hot and we both sweating like crazy that I decided to stop and so we both just catching our breaths and cuddling in the bed for while, she liked that she told me later. She asked whether I came yet I said yeah sure though I had not. She said she would like to do it again later on, I told her why not doing it again now. She laughed and we started making out again passionately, this time she told me not to put the rubber on, she wanted to better feel me inside her. And this second round was much better; we began on missionary and then switched to doggy style when at least I sensed her coming again, I couldn't hold much longer myself and I came at last as well and sprayed over her back. She asked me why not coming inside her, I said it was automatically (it does) , she said she wanted me to come inside her and not to worry since she's using contraception. I said why didn't tell me about it before and proposed to start making love again. She said she was very tired at the moment, but promised she would love to do it again later at night. Well to be honest I was quite tired and also pretty hungry so we decided to get dress and went for dinner together.

I asked her whether she would mind to have dinner with me and my friends, she said she didn't. So we met up downstairs with JAD and DN (truly sorry again bros to keep you guys waiting that time) and then had dinner together. I was pleased to see how she fitted herself effortlessly among my mongering friends; she even threw some jokes and stories of her own and laughed to the others' without losing her class. We all had good time and it was around 10pm already when we decided to went out together. She actually was more than willing to join me and the gang for some drinks at CJs even to camp in with me till tomorrow, but I didn't feel good for the others since we hadn't done any mongering that night. So I told her that we got to go somewhere else instead and maybe arranged some other time to meet up again. She consented as she also tired (she just arrived from Bali directly to my hotel that day) and so we drove her back to her home in the Kemang area.

From Bee's home JAD proposed we checked Orchard Hotel, situated behind Sheraton Gunung Sahari, which he said provides variety of sensual massages with fixed price negotiated in the front. When we reached there it was around 11pm and apparently they had closed the call already. Disappointed, I then proposed to go Alexis, since DN said he was never been there. So we headed to Alexis and got there around 11. 30pm. We immediately head to 7th floor where the spa and lounges was, and since it was too late for any spa and massages (I could use some though) , we decided to stay in the longue area and to feast on the girls selections.

After shown to all the girls' selection, I decided to take out a cute and young Vietnamese name Mina (we suspected she couldn't be more than 18yo, petite and very cheerful). JAD said he didn't need any and kept flirting out with the mamasan friend of mine instead (Haha good luck JAD!). While DN was somewhat having fierce battles inside whether to do a session there (but couldn't get the full benefit of spa together and got proper back rubs heheh) or to book the girl out (but couldn't bring it home because HM in duty). So in the end he decided to save it for another day and we head out together back to CJs bar.

On the way there JAD commented had we known the formation to CJs ended up the same anyway (it ended up with me being with the girl and they two on their own after all) , it would be more preferable to keep Bee around instead taking out Mina from Alexis. I told him it was okay as I always welcome some varieties, and we all laughed as JAD granted me then the title 'TolCak' or literally translanted to 'Random Dick'.

It was quite packed at the time we hit CJs, and after some drinks DN decided to go looking around CJs girls. He returned disappointed, saying meeting up Bee and added with the trip to Alexis had busted his standard so much he considered the girls around CJs that time as downright ugly. After some drinks and dancing we decided to call it a day and I headed back to my hotel with Mina.

It was around 2. 30am already when we got back to the room, and I told Mina that I was quite tired and wasted. She told me to relax and prepared the hot water in the tub. While waiting for the water she got me (and her) undressed and started to give me a back massage. She was actually quite good doing the massage even with such small hands of hers and I enjoyed (and needed) it very much. We then continued in the bathtub and for a while we just lay there relaxing and enjoyed the comfort of each other's body. For me it was like having a sensual spa of my own haha and then we started making out in the tub, and as I can't hold it anymore I tried to go commando with her in the tub. However, she said she was afraid and had to put the rubber on. So we got out from the tub, dried ourselves and moved the action to the bed. She was very sweet and even though she was wet already, it was still very tight down there and it was very hot inside her (like a little rice-cooker I told her later haha). It was like making love with your high school sweetheart, can't really remember all the details but got such a sweet feel about it. She came twice already and since we both very tired (and sleepy) already, I decided to stop and we quickly slept on each other's arms.

Around 9am, got morning call by tingling sensations down there as Mina took the liberty to give me BBBJ saying that it was disturbing her that I didn't came last night. So we had another round and I couldn't remember how long (or how many she got already) but at last I came. Afterward we fell back to sleep and when we woke up around 12. 30, strangely felt refreshed and not a sign of any hangover from drinking last night (apparently having one in the morning was somewhat remedy for hangovers, I deem). Starving, I decided to take her over for brunch and then sent her back to Alexis on my way to the Airport.

On retrospections, Jakarta has done it again, and for bad or good that happened to me there, one thing is for sure: it never get dull. I was alive in this city, and as the plane brought me back home, I felt fully recharged and felt ready to burn the oil again (well at least for some weeks hahaha).

*sorry no pics this time as my last report made quite commotions over a certain model.

[QUOTE=Nobbin; 1160123]I can't believe I have been here for 10 days and I have just discovered the Maribaya Massage at Hotel Melawai!

She said Rp500k for everything. Sounded OK to me & I figured I was going to have a good time.

Then showered again, gave her the 500K Rups as requested plus a Rp50, 000 tip.

! [/QUOTE]Was there in January it was 450 all inclusive ST

I'm sure was getting overcharged but I had no labguage skills and limited away time to spend. Wel more cash than time.

Girls weren't to bad at all.

Had one very tall pretty one first.

Then decided it wasnt enough haha

And took up offer of 2 girl party second round.

Nice double. Only 1 shot though

Then decided to squeeze out a 3rd.

Next girl nice face, big titties.

Turns out she was lactating which was kinda sweet.

And just want I needed to get over the hump.

Service was bareback as standard in all cases.

Cum inside of course.

I was weak and gave in to temptation.

Had my tests since and all clear.

But just so you know that condoms are very optional there

[QUOTE=Townsy; 1160435]Was there in January it was 450 all inclusive ST

I'm sure was getting overcharged but I had no labguage skills and limited away time to spend. Wel more cash than time.

Girls weren't to bad at all.

Had one very tall pretty one first.

Then decided it wasnt enough haha

And took up offer of 2 girl party second round.

Nice double. Only 1 shot though

Then decided to squeeze out a 3rd.

Next girl nice face, big titties.

Turns out she was lactating which was kinda sweet.

And just want I needed to get over the hump.

Service was bareback as standard in all cases.

Cum inside of course.

I was weak and gave in to temptation.

Had my tests since and all clear.

But just so you know that condoms are very optional there[/QUOTE]To newbie townsy.

If you read the forum you should know price went up to 500k 3 month ago and you do get 2 shots here, if you do bare back you are a fool playing with dead think with your big head not the little one.

Fast Eddie 48

And if you read the forum yourself, you would know that you should not criticize (or even comment upon) another member on the topic of "safe sex" in this thread. Those comments / criticisms should be made in the Safe Sex Thread. I cut and paste the "policy" on safe sex comments below. Also, he stated clearly that he paid 450k in January (not last week). Just because you have 2000+ reports (and I do respect that) , try to show a modicum of respect to other newer members. Just my $0. 02 (well, it was 2 cents back in January).

"No Safe Sex Complaints Forum Members wishing to criticize other Members for not following what they consider to be safe sex procedures may do so only in the Safe Sex Thread. Members may not comment upon, criticize or confront other members on this subject in the general discussion threads. Any such "safe sex complaints" posted in the general discussion threads will be deleted without comment."

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48; 1160615]To newbie townsy.

If you read the forum you should know price went up to 500k 3 month ago and you do get 2 shots here, if you do bare back you are a fool playing with dead think with your big head not the little one.

Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nobbin;1159749]It was when I got close to it I realised the odour was not to my liking, so I suddenly lost my appetite for DATY.[/QUOTE]Reminds me of the "belacan" story by the great Panya!

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48;1160615]If you read the forum you should know price went up to 500k 3 month ago[/QUOTE]I read the forum quite often, but I missed that one. I've been there fairly frequently within the past few months and did not realize the price has gone up. Then again, I pretty much always give them 550k at the end of the hour so I was still covering the cost plus tip. Good to know it's 500 now however!

Hi. I read the Jakarta forum off and on and I know there is stuff to be had around Blok M. I will be in Jakarta next week and have only a few hours free and I will be near Monas so not sure if I would have time to take a taxi to Blok M and back and still get in some fun. So can anyone recommend anything near Monas or Senen train station. TIA.

[QUOTE=Jritz;1160143]@MDII: Hahaha bro, in this case it's true that: "pervert minds think alike".[/QUOTE]It's actually called stress management bro.;)

[QUOTE=Menteng;1160695]Reminds me of the "belacan" story by the great Panya![/QUOTE]I remember that one too. Classic!

[QUOTE=Jakarta After Dark 2; 1160642]@Panya: Good talking to you bro.
@Acerboy: Nice meeting you, your girlfriends, and your two other friends bro.
@MD: I have an information for you bro. Sari Ayu's profile is turning like an Arab bar's. I really mean below 100, some even below 90. Imagine you doing a 90 doggy style. And when you start doing her you see all part of her body moving. Remind you of a sweet memory :*small smile. No?

JAKARTA AFTER DARK[/QUOTE]Jad, I will only agree to meet (for the first time) confirmed 110 and above directly in my hotel room in future. Man that was scary, and she wouldn't take the hint and leave until I had to be really blunt. Not a sweet memory and you had a smile not me.:p Acerboy - what a player!:D Panya, the romantic.:p Damn it's been too long.

MD II

[QUOTE=Ronin500;1160812]Hi. I read the Jakarta forum off and on and I know there is stuff to be had around Blok M. I will be in Jakarta next week and have only a few hours free and I will be near Monas so not sure if I would have time to take a taxi to Blok M and back and still get in some fun. So can anyone recommend anything near Monas or Senen train station. TIA.[/QUOTE]Well you're not far at all from Malioboro, Berlian, Kartika, Hotel Travel, Classic etc At least somewhere for you to start.

MD II

[QUOTE=Ronin500;1160812]Hi. I read the Jakarta forum off and on and I know there is stuff to be had around Blok M. I will be in Jakarta next week and have only a few hours free and I will be near Monas so not sure if I would have time to take a taxi to Blok M and back and still get in some fun. So can anyone recommend anything near Monas or Senen train station. TIA.[/QUOTE]Gents help me out. Jalan Jaksa is just south of Monas? Ronin, its a street filled with low-end hotels. SW's abound.

[QUOTE=Ronin500;1160812]Hi. I read the Jakarta forum off and on and I know there is stuff to be had around Blok M. I will be in Jakarta next week and have only a few hours free and I will be near Monas so not sure if I would have time to take a taxi to Blok M and back and still get in some fun. So can anyone recommend anything near Monas or Senen train station. TIA.[/QUOTE]Go straight to Hotel Classic tell the taxi driver the one at Pasar Baru. Best & cheapest in town 2 girls for 400k including room. Over 200 girls aged average between 18-22. Only about 10-15 minutes from Monas.

I've been to Jakarta recently for a couple of days. For me it's super easy there to seduce and fuck good looking women with decent jobs like sales ladies, waitresses, stewardesses or even hotel employees (no prostitutes). For me no need to take prostitutes there. For prostitutes Bangkok is the better option.

I posted this on the general thread and did not get a response. So I'm posting again on the Jakarta thread. Please post a response.

I'll be going to Jakarta for the first time in July. Will be staying at the Sari Pan Pacific. Are there massage parlors within easy walking distance? Of course, the hotel must have one. But I assume that it will be expensive. Thanks in advance for leads. Also, if one has leads for outcall massage, please let me know. Thanks Bania.

[QUOTE=Bania;1161471]I posted this on the general thread and did not get a response. So I'm posting again on the Jakarta thread. Please post a response.[/QUOTE]Folks were being polite to you. There are no MP or mongering activities in Jakarta. If you RTTF, you'd have configured out Jakarta is a terrible place to visit.

[QUOTE=Traveler1234;1161508]Folks were being polite to you. There are no MP or mongering activities in Jakarta. If you RTTF, you'd have configured out Jakarta is a terrible place to visit.[/QUOTE]Appreciate the sarcasm in lieu of help. RTFF revealed nothing recent about facilities around Sari Pan Pacific. I don't have the opportunity to explore afar. That's why I asked the question. But if being a jerk is so important to you, who am I to complain?

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1160769]I read the forum quite often, but I missed that one. I've been there fairly frequently within the past few months and did not realize the price has gone up. Then again, I pretty much always give them 550k at the end of the hour so I was still covering the cost plus tip. Good to know it's 500 now however![/QUOTE]To Smoothy,

I was at Maribaya last month they told me price have gone up since March to 500k, there are many better place in Jarkata with better quality girl and cheaper cost, only good thing is they offer 2 shots but newbie townsy said he only got one shot 6 month ago but he got bareback and I alway get 2 shots here and service is good.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=Bania;1161527]RTFF revealed nothing recent about facilities around Sari Pan Pacific.[/QUOTE]That's basically because there are none. Back about 10 years ago in the days of Tanamur, that was a great place to stay, but not anymore.

You have Zen karaoke right across the street from there and that's a fun place where you can get girls (although it isn't cheap).

You can pick up girls in the Pit Stop bar in front of Sari Pan Pacific on occasion, but it's not a very good pick up spot.

The nearest massage place is about 1/2 hour from there in a taxi. Your best bet is probably to grab a taxi to Malioboro (tell the taxi to take you to Gajah Mada plaza and Malioboro is about 1 block before the Mall on the left) or some of the other Mangga Besar area massage places like Hotel Travel or even Hotel Classic.

If you are pressed for time, your best bet may be to order delivery to your room (not from the hotel itself, but from an "escort" service). JAD may be able to help you there.

[QUOTE=Bania;1161527]RTFF revealed nothing recent about facilities around Sari Pan Pacific. I don't have the opportunity to explore afar.[/QUOTE]Your problem is your specific need that facilities be within "walking distance" of the hotel, just for the record no-one walks in Jakarta, it is virtually impossible.

So if we remove that specification we can say that in fact your choice of hotel is really quite strategic given that it sits slab dab in the midway between the two happy hunting grounds of Kota and Blok M. Have a look out the front of the hotel and you will see a dedicated buslane with big orange and red buses running north and south stopping off at the various bus shelters, your nearest one will be Sarinah. Buy a ticket, princely sum of Rp3500 (about $0. 40) and decide where you want to go.

Go south all the way to the Blok M terminal and as you leave the bus have a look down to your left to see a shabby little street with several bars, Top Gun, My Bar etc. After 10pm these bars are buzzing with ladies who for a certain sum will provide you with carnal pleasures. The Busway stops running at 10pm so you'll need a taxi home but at that time of night (or morning) there will be little traffic and the journey back to your hotel will take about twenty minutes or less.

Alternatively go north and get off at Harmoni, a busy intersection, within walking distance of this stop you will find two very well appointed massage parlours / knocking shops called V2 (in the same complex as the Carrefour supermarket) or a block or two further north past the Lion tower, the Malioboro Hotel, all your needs should be taken care of there.

If you like you can stay on the bus and go to Mangga Besar (caution alight at the stop after Mangga Besar, Olimo, to avoid a long walk) and this brings you to the area of that name. Within walking distance of this stop (or alternatively hire the motor cycle taxi driver,"ojek", patiently waiting at the foot of the steps outside the Ibis hotel, Rp10-20,000 should be sufficient) to take you to whichever delightful establishment in that locality that you will have already read about on the forum.

The Busway beats the traffic by day, by nights you will be less than half an hour's taxi drive from your hotel.

Hope this helps.

Bania, Jalan Jaksa is within walking distance from the Sari Pan Pacific. I don't particularly like the area, it's downmarket, but there are those who do.

Thanks to JAD, Dorman, Smoothy and Tiny12 for providing detailed leads and information. Bania

Dude, your report is totally outstanding! Good on you!

[QUOTE=Jritz; 1160218]* Part 2.

Wednesday May 4, 2011.

Woke up refreshed and immediately swept over my ass to the work appointment, and this time I had to accept the lunch offer, as it would be quite rude of me to decline their offer twice. So it was situated that around 1. 50pm I found myself still on my way back to the hotel, when Fisherman informed me that the Lady had been waiting already for me at the lobby.

I got to the lobby around 2. 15pm and was feeling bad to let a beautiful lady waiting for me. I hurriedly looking for her, and when finally met her I was quite surprised that this chick was nothing like the pics I got from Fisherman at all. This girl was okay but I was surprised to find her instead what I agreed on with Fisherman (what gives?). But since she still looked reasonably beautiful (around 22yo, she had rather round but sensual body, big busts and quite pretty face and big round eyes, in a sense she reminded me to Indonesian artist, Sarah Azhari. Not my type though) but I felt rather guilty for running late, so I decided not to cancel the whole thing and invited her to the hotel longue first to have some drinks and to see what she had to offer. However, she insisted to go straight to the room instead, saying she needed to go to campus (apparently she still in school) around 3pm. I was thinking WTF that practically just left me with only an hour to work her out? She apparently sensed that I didn't take it well about the time constraint, so she tried to convince me that the experience with her would be worth the little time we had. So I was finally willing (actually it was the stupid dick that willing) to try and off we go to my room.

Entering the room she quickly positioned herself on the bed and asked for the lights to be turned off. I asked whether we should get to shower first, but she said no need. We got undressed and I followed her to the bed. We proceeded with some half-arsed kisses, and I got to say after she got naked, I could understand why she want the light to be dimmed, the girl definitely could benefit from some weight-loss programs since there's no way for someone who claimed to be on modeling business could ever survive with those kind of tummy and cellulites she had. What more was when I started grabbed her twins; she started to let out some of the most faked pleasure voices I ever heard, almost like singing I daresay and definitely a turn-off. So I just stopped and asked her to do the favour of waking up my little bro again by giving him a BBBJ. She replied with a simple no (surprise, surprise). She didn't do any BJ let alone BBBJ she said. Now for those who've known me might know that I was rather easy going and seldom retort to anger. But I was pissed at that time, so I sarcastically asked her what she proposed us to do then. She said to me just to finish the business while she just laid down there like a dead fish. I said I wasn't in the mood and needed some time to think it over. She said she couldn't wait around and had to go for school soon. So I told her don't bother to wait, get dressed and that she could go fuck-off immediately.

She was worry (really?) and asked whether I was angry to her. I said I was indeed angry but not really to her, it was true because after some thoughts I realized it wasn't really all her fault, she did what she always does I guess. So I was angry more toward the agents (who didn't do his job to send me the right girl, and who didn't do his job on screening their girls service) and partly also toward myself since I was ignoring all the 'wrong' signals from beginning. So after she left around 3pm, I tried to cool down and then confront Mr. Fisherman about this matter.

He was genuinely surprised about it and after some time offered me some proposals to tender my injury. He offered me to have dinner on him with Marcelina (the girl I booked yesterday) and also that he would send me another model escort he had for free. So I personally applauded him for being a gentleman, and considered the matter's done between us. However, I had to refuse his remunerations since my scheduled was packed already and also because I'm not 'the getting second free for the bad first' kind of person. I doubt I will ever use his agency service again.

In a somewhat sully mood, I decided to get ready for my next 5pm appointment and waited for her in the longue over coffee. 5 pm sharp, she came (really appreciate girls who appreciate time) and immediately the bad event that occurred just before was long forgotten to the edge of universe. Karma does pay big time. Her name was Bee, around 25 yo I guess, tall (a catwalk model) , exotic face, cosmic body (*winks at JAD) and such captivating eyes.

We spent some time in the longue talking and enjoying some wine. I must say this girl's personality really shone through, definitely not your average girls next door; she was the kind of girl you could proudly bring to meet the president, oh right she already met the president. Well educated, comfortable with herself, natural beauty and effortless classy. I would even think that I had to bring my level up a bit to keep up with her (in contrary to the usual leveling down for the average WLs). I mean we even debated over some flaws under Krugman's economic model at some point. Before we realized we already spent almost an hour talking just about everything. I seldom experienced this, but at the time I really was having a major turn on while talking in intellectual level (last time it happened was during a hot professor lectures in my college days). Thanks to the red wine I guess, apparently she was having one too as she signaled me time to go to the room.

In the room, we conversed more intimately; she said she loves Madmen and Californication TV series which I thought very cool and also showed that she had some kinkiness as well. We laughed and cuddled on the sofa over some cocktails. After a while she excused herself to use the bathroom and came out a moment later with just her undies on (man remembering her body now almost got me a nosebleed). She sneaked in to the bed and signaled me sultrily with her finger to join her.

In the bed we started with great DFKs (well, great for me anyway) as we undressed each other, and being a gentleman (yeah right) , I proposed to go down on her first. As classy as her outer looked like, she got totally different attitudes in the bed. She was wild and not shy to utter her pleasures loudly (even occasionally screams). And God she smelled so nice, even her tits tasted sweet and as I went for DATY on her I could tell she really was in real pleasure unlike the fake ones I had before (*snorts) as I could spot some goosebumps on her hands and legs. She was clean shaven down there and as she got really wet, it tasted like strawberries (I swear it) , I told her and asked what she used down there but she just laughed saying I was being sweet and said she couldn't stand it anymore and flipped me and took the turn going down. After a while she put the rubber on, started to climb for cowgirl position and she rode me hard. Not long she came and getting shaky in the top, so I pushed her down and changed to missionary. When she came again it was like eruption and during which she gave me quite a scratch on my back.

It was getting really hot and we both sweating like crazy that I decided to stop and so we both just catching our breaths and cuddling in the bed for while, she liked that she told me later. She asked whether I came yet I said yeah sure though I had not. She said she would like to do it again later on, I told her why not doing it again now. She laughed and we started making out again passionately, this time she told me not to put the rubber on, she wanted to better feel me inside her. And this second round was much better; we began on missionary and then switched to doggy style when at least I sensed her coming again, I couldn't hold much longer myself and I came at last as well and sprayed over her back. She asked me why not coming inside her, I said it was automatically (it does) , she said she wanted me to come inside her and not to worry since she's using contraception. I said why didn't tell me about it before and proposed to start making love again. She said she was very tired at the moment, but promised she would love to do it again later at night. Well to be honest I was quite tired and also pretty hungry so we decided to get dress and went for dinner together.

I asked her whether she would mind to have dinner with me and my friends, she said she didn't. So we met up downstairs with JAD and DN (truly sorry again bros to keep you guys waiting that time) and then had dinner together. I was pleased to see how she fitted herself effortlessly among my mongering friends; she even threw some jokes and stories of her own and laughed to the others' without losing her class. We all had good time and it was around 10pm already when we decided to went out together. She actually was more than willing to join me and the gang for some drinks at CJs even to camp in with me till tomorrow, but I didn't feel good for the others since we hadn't done any mongering that night. So I told her that we got to go somewhere else instead and maybe arranged some other time to meet up again. She consented as she also tired (she just arrived from Bali directly to my hotel that day) and so we drove her back to her home in the Kemang area.

From Bee's home JAD proposed we checked Orchard Hotel, situated behind Sheraton Gunung Sahari, which he said provides variety of sensual massages with fixed price negotiated in the front. When we reached there it was around 11pm and apparently they had closed the call already. Disappointed, I then proposed to go Alexis, since DN said he was never been there. So we headed to Alexis and got there around 11. 30pm. We immediately head to 7th floor where the spa and lounges was, and since it was too late for any spa and massages (I could use some though) , we decided to stay in the longue area and to feast on the girls selections.

After shown to all the girls' selection, I decided to take out a cute and young Vietnamese name Mina (we suspected she couldn't be more than 18yo, petite and very cheerful). JAD said he didn't need any and kept flirting out with the mamasan friend of mine instead (Haha good luck JAD!). While DN was somewhat having fierce battles inside whether to do a session there (but couldn't get the full benefit of spa together and got proper back rubs heheh) or to book the girl out (but couldn't bring it home because HM in duty). So in the end he decided to save it for another day and we head out together back to CJs bar.

On the way there JAD commented had we known the formation to CJs ended up the same anyway (it ended up with me being with the girl and they two on their own after all) , it would be more preferable to keep Bee around instead taking out Mina from Alexis. I told him it was okay as I always welcome some varieties, and we all laughed as JAD granted me then the title 'TolCak' or literally translanted to 'Random Dick'.

It was quite packed at the time we hit CJs, and after some drinks DN decided to go looking around CJs girls. He returned disappointed, saying meeting up Bee and added with the trip to Alexis had busted his standard so much he considered the girls around CJs that time as downright ugly. After some drinks and dancing we decided to call it a day and I headed back to my hotel with Mina.

It was around 2. 30am already when we got back to the room, and I told Mina that I was quite tired and wasted. She told me to relax and prepared the hot water in the tub. While waiting for the water she got me (and her) undressed and started to give me a back massage. She was actually quite good doing the massage even with such small hands of hers and I enjoyed (and needed) it very much. We then continued in the bathtub and for a while we just lay there relaxing and enjoyed the comfort of each other's body. For me it was like having a sensual spa of my own haha and then we started making out in the tub, and as I can't hold it anymore I tried to go commando with her in the tub. However, she said she was afraid and had to put the rubber on. So we got out from the tub, dried ourselves and moved the action to the bed. She was very sweet and even though she was wet already, it was still very tight down there and it was very hot inside her (like a little rice-cooker I told her later haha). It was like making love with your high school sweetheart, can't really remember all the details but got such a sweet feel about it. She came twice already and since we both very tired (and sleepy) already, I decided to stop and we quickly slept on each other's arms.

Around 9am, got morning call by tingling sensations down there as Mina took the liberty to give me BBBJ saying that it was disturbing her that I didn't came last night. So we had another round and I couldn't remember how long (or how many she got already) but at last I came. Afterward we fell back to sleep and when we woke up around 12. 30, strangely felt refreshed and not a sign of any hangover from drinking last night (apparently having one in the morning was somewhat remedy for hangovers, I deem). Starving, I decided to take her over for brunch and then sent her back to Alexis on my way to the Airport.

On retrospections, Jakarta has done it again, and for bad or good that happened to me there, one thing is for sure: it never get dull. I was alive in this city, and as the plane brought me back home, I felt fully recharged and felt ready to burn the oil again (well at least for some weeks hahaha).

*sorry no pics this time as my last report made quite commotions over a certain model. [/QUOTE]

You write so well, all of you. And it feels like I cannot post my lousy report about Jakarta, after this.

Met JAD for dinner last week and may I say dinner at Payun at kemang was great but traffic going there was bad. We ended up at CJs for a few drinks. There were many girls there and some were clearly trying to hook up quickly. My friend was offered Rp1. 5mil but he declined more since he and Panya was at Classic earlier that day wheer he had a 19yr old girl who gave him 2 shots.

JAD I read you hitting mamasan at 7th floor Alexis. She is great looking and I'd love to have her instead of those girls. Good choice bro. Maybe next time we should take her out for dinner. Thanks again JAD, you are a great guy.

Yes! Of course. Thank you JAD! I had a great time with you. You were always there when the shit hit the fan. I would never ever have found my way through Jakarta day or night without you. You showed me how deep the rabbit hole goes. Thanks!

PB.

If some newbies going to Jakarta: [url]http://www.jakartaafterdark.com/[/url]

[QUOTE=Pussycheck;1160915]I've been to Jakarta recently for a couple of days. For me it's super easy there to seduce and fuck good looking women with decent jobs like sales ladies, waitresses, stewardesses or even hotel employees (no prostitutes). For me no need to take prostitutes there. For prostitutes Bangkok is the better option.[/QUOTE]1 thing for sure. Bule always have a upper hand getting free bonk or even ONS with those Non-prostitute girls. And I don't blame those girls too. Is their dream, to marry a bule, to settle down.

once again i had to go to jakarta on business on short notice.

decided to book hotel orchardz on jl industri close to mangga dua. my hosts kept me busy most of the time insisting that i join them for social activities in the evenings. but thursday turned out to be a public holiday and i finally got some much needed quality on my own. went shopping in kota and returned back to the hotel around 2 p m.

quickly got ready to sample the spa. however, much to my most of the girls where already busy or booked. only three numbers left. they have a few different packages to choose from. i have previously tried butterfly which is a full naked oil body-to-body massage followed by fs. quite nice.

this time i noticed a sweet honey package and decided to sample it. it is basically a full body cat bath using honey followed by fs. selected a vip room as all super deluxe where occupied.

in the very last minute mamasan came up to me and gave me a new selection of girls. had requested a young girl with big tits, and she came back recommending #93 which now was available.

the room was very nice with big whirlpool, wall mirrors and two massage beds. my therapist immediately stripped down to her underwear, revealing a great set of c-cup tits. very promising.

she started off with a 40 min oil massage with ended with lots of attention to the groin area. followed by a joint shower during which i noticed that the lcd tv was showing american hardcore porn. if you are the type of fellow who enjoys a good cock and arse cleaning by a 45 kg indonesian girl with great tits, accompanied by the sounds of a huge black guy fucking some asian chicks butt, this is your place.

the sweet honey routine was surprisingly good. she worked that tongue all all the applicable places for a good 15 minutes before wiping the honey off. the we finished the deed. she had such a great set of tits that i had to resort to think about my old granny's false teeth, to avoid shooting too early.

all in all a very pleasurable session.

cost 300 k to house. 350 k to girl, and 50 k as additional bonus tip.

i will defiantly plan to revisit this place next time i am in town.

@Leedon mak: Thanks man.

@Primo Bolan: No need to be so humble Bro. I learned from JAD that you also had some "roller-coaster" mongering experiences in Jakarta. He even added that you've somewhat discovered a way to "mind-fuck" the ladies. Hahaha. So please share!

@Acerboy: I really feel "hitting the mamasan" was somewhat an understatement hahaha.

@Asian MP Lover: Great report man. Tried to go there last time in town but they closed after 11pm.

Its coming up. But I'm a bad writer, you know.

PB

[QUOTE=CyclopUnicorn;1162359]1 thing for sure. Bule always have a upper hand getting free bonk or even ONS with those Non-prostitute girls. And I don't blame those girls too. Is their dream, to marry a bule, to settle down.[/QUOTE]Bules do have the upper hand. But there are girls who specifically do NOT want bules, just as there are girls who only want bules. Girls here are very open minded and they need some escape from the humdrum of everyday life. If you present yourself as a fun diversion for them, many things are possible. Last trip I met a girl with a bule fiancee, but after dinner, she came to my room for dessert and "dessert". No money involved, just a good time had by both parties. She left in the early hours of the morning, to go back and get ready for work. I'm not a bule but there are a lot of women who just need a friendly, fun face to blow some steam.

MD II

[quote=cyclopunicorn;1162359]1 thing for sure. bule always have a upper hand getting free bonk or even ons with those non-prostitute girls. and i don't blame those girls too. is their dream, to marry a bule, to settle down.[/quote]my experience as a bule talking specifically in the working girl houses is that generally the hottest chicks in the house don't want to go with a bule as they reckon we are too big or want to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] their chocky box. as soon as a girl shows no interest in me or you notice that anti bule mood i give them the flick and try a new one. before i would aleways try and talk with the girl and let her know i wasn't such a sleaze bag and a lot of times i managed to sweet talk them. i have a good laugh when i get knocked back because there you are with a pocket full of personality and some hot chick doesn't want to go with you because you're white. quite funny when you think about it getting knocked back by a wh*re. have to be able to laugh at oneself to get on with life!

[QUOTE=KangK;1164016]I have a good laugh when I get knocked back because there you are with a pocket full of personality and some hot chick doesn't want to go with you because you're white.[/QUOTE]Yeah, some of the places in Kota you meet girls that don't really want to service a bule, they probably want a local Chinese. Every different venue has a particular market, doesn't it? Like there's that whole row of Japanese clubs up around the Melawai area and I've never seen a single report about them here. That's probably because we don't get many Japanese contributors and they probably don't encourage non-Jap punters. I bet a bule or a local who turned up would get the cold shoulder. Then there's a few African bars, bet the same thing applies, too.

But I think you're right, if you chat with a girl for a bit, you can tell if she's going to have issues of that sort. That's why I don't like fish bowls, you can't really check compatibility.

[QUOTE=KangK;1164016]Quite funny when you think about it getting knocked back by a wh*re. Have to be able to laugh at oneself to get on with life![/QUOTE]This is very true the first time I experienced it in Kota I was quite offended, now I couldn't care less, as you say it's horses for courses. In Menteng it's the Arab blokes who have fun, around the corner the African guys are getting their wicked way, in Kota it's the Chinese lads who are making out, in Melawei the Japanese boys are getting their leg over and I haven't worked out where the Korean fellas are humping (Koreans are enjoying a lot of popularity at the moment as it happens) but wherever it is the girls in those particular locations seem to prefer those types of punters.

The longer I live here the more I realise that the myth of the Bule charm is just that; a myth, frankly a lot of Indonesians secretly despise us. So need to get too overwrought about it, just find where is comfortable for you and enjoy the fun.

[QUOTE=Gonzo Two;1164302]Like there's that whole row of Japanese clubs up around the Melawai area and I've never seen a single report about them here. That's probably because we don't get many Japanese contributors and they probably don't encourage non-Jap punters. I bet a bule or a local who turned up would get the cold shoulder.[/QUOTE]I go in those on occasion When I first went in, they were a little hesitant since they are not used to bules going there. Bules have a reputation for being less "royal" than the Japanese as well, so the girls aren't thrilled about us going there. The karaoke clubs in that area have mostly indo and japanese songs and not so many english songs to choose from. The girls are more likely able to sing along with you with a japanese song than with an english song. But I don't mind singing the indonesian songs with them and after a few of those, the girls usually warm up.

The times I stop into those clubs are when I see a real hottie manning the doorway and can't resist pulling her into the karaoke room with me to take a shot at her. Normally the girls won't go home with me right after the karaoke, but they will give me their number and meet me later if I want. I've had some nice girls from those places, but overall I don't consider them to be places I would put on my preferred venues list.

[QUOTE=Dorman;1164521]This is very true the first time I experienced it in Kota I was quite offended, now I couldn't care less.[/QUOTE]Depends how hot the girl is relative to the others.

But I agree. When I first had that happen, I was offended. Not really anymore. (unless the girl is by far the hottest and there are no other good choices)

I forget who said the price at Maribaya was 500k now, but I stopped by there today and the girls told me it's still 450k.

[QUOTE=Gonzo Two; 1164302]Yeah, some of the places in Kota you meet girls that don't really want to service a bule, they probably want a local Chinese. Every different venue has a particular market, doesn't it? Like there's that whole row of Japanese clubs up around the Melawai area and I've never seen a single report about them here. That's probably because we don't get many Japanese contributors and they probably don't encourage non-Jap punters. I bet a bule or a local who turned up would get the cold shoulder. Then there's a few African bars, bet the same thing applies, too.

But I think you're right, if you chat with a girl for a bit, you can tell if she's going to have issues of that sort. That's why I don't like fish bowls, you can't really check compatibility. [/QUOTE]Seriously Thank God for the Chinese as wherever you go in this world they have the best clubs of relaxation and satisfaction for the purveyors of their sexual fantasies and addictions!

I don't know who she is or what she's getting out of it but somewhere out there in this great big city there is a girl who put me on some sort of mailing list and my hp number seems to be changing hands through the impecunious university students of north and west Jakarta like snuff at a wake. All I can do is thank her and assure her there is a soft spot in my heart reserved for such a kind hearted lass as she.

It all started a few months ago when I got an sms from an unknown number asking to meet me, she used my (assumed) name and told me she had got my number from Tini or some such name, a girl I had apparently met last year but about whom I have absolutely no recollection. Anyway I arranged to meet the following Friday afternoon (I knock off work early on Fridays) in my favourite pick-up hotel in Kota and was pleasantly surprised when two very smartly dressed young women showed up, one nineteen and the other twenty two. University students from Salemba they were looking to make some pulsa money and had got my number from the aforementioned friend. Well we had a very nice afternoon and off they went.

But then it went viral, and now from Wednesday afternoon onwards I start getting sms's from numbers I don't know all claiming to be friends of some lady in my past and asking to meet up. My Fridays are now a frenzy of scheduling and being a middle aged British man I love my neat orderly timetables but unfortunately when this is combined with the time-keeping abilities of young Indonesian women chaos can sometimes reign. With my two fifteen arriving a quarter of an hour early I have to give my twelve thirty, who came half an hour late, the bum's rush out the door. It's like one of those bedroom farces, I'm waving off one set as I rush around tidying the room with the next set already on the way up in the lift. By six thirty I'm thoroughly knackered and ready for home.

You will notice I mentioned "set" and how the original girl turned up with a friend, well this is one of the nice bonuses because of course these girls never want to go to a strange man's hotel room alone so they always come in pairs (or indeed in threes). In the course of the sms arrangements the girl never mentions a friend knowing I will probably tell her to come alone but she will ask about payment. The opening bid is always 400k and they always accept the counter of 300k, it only being an hour after all. When they bring their friend, as I know they will, I will always feign embarrassed surprise and explain that I've only got 400k and couldn't possibly accept a second girl so I'll have to choose one.

At this point both girls do the same calculation;"I've come all this way, I've paid the transport costs, I'm here now, I don't much fancy going out and walking the corridors of this hotel for an hour for nothing and anyway why should she get all the money?" It only takes an instant and a quick glance at the other girl before they both shrug and say "Fair enough, we'll both stay for that". Never fails, every time.

Now before you lambaste me for the cheap cad that I no doubt am, remember, they asked to meet me, we agreed a price and no one mentioned a third wheel on the bicycle and anyway I'm a big softy really and if they turn out to be good sports, which more often than not they do, I can usually manage to locate an extra 100k in my back pocket for their ongkos. I should point out that usually the girls will be sms'ing me again a week later so they don't seem terribly upset about the outcome.

Anyway like I say by evening time I stagger down to the checkout with no doubt an inane grin on my face and the receptionist pretends to be surprised that I am checking out so soon and I wearily set off into Jakarta's Friday evening rush hour wondering how long do I expect to last at this rate?

A few photos of my favourites will be posted in the gallery.

[QUOTE=Dorman; 1165203]I don't know who she is or what she's getting out of it but somewhere out there in this great big city there is a girl who put me on some sort of mailing list and my hp number seems to be changing hands through the impecunious university students of north and west Jakarta like snuff at a wake. All I can do is thank her and assure her there is a soft spot in my heart reserved for such a kind hearted lass as she.

It all started a few months ago when I got an sms from an unknown number asking to meet me, she used my (assumed) name and told me she had got my number from Tini or some such name, a girl I had apparently met last year but about whom I have absolutely no recollection. Anyway I arranged to meet the following Friday afternoon (I knock off work early on Fridays) in my favourite pick-up hotel in Kota and was pleasantly surprised when two very smartly dressed young women showed up, one nineteen and the other twenty two. University students from Salemba they were looking to make some pulsa money and had got my number from the aforementioned friend. Well we had a very nice afternoon and off they went.

But then it went viral, and now from Wednesday afternoon onwards I start getting sms's from numbers I don't know all claiming to be friends of some lady in my past and asking to meet up. My Fridays are now a frenzy of scheduling and being a middle aged British man I love my neat orderly timetables but unfortunately when this is combined with the time-keeping abilities of young Indonesian women chaos can sometimes reign. With my two fifteen arriving a quarter of an hour early I have to give my twelve thirty, who came half an hour late, the bum's rush out the door. It's like one of those bedroom farces, I'm waving off one set as I rush around tidying the room with the next set already on the way up in the lift. By six thirty I'm thoroughly knackered and ready for home.

You will notice I mentioned "set" and how the original girl turned up with a friend, well this is one of the nice bonuses because of course these girls never want to go to a strange man's hotel room alone so they always come in pairs (or indeed in threes). In the course of the sms arrangements the girl never mentions a friend knowing I will probably tell her to come alone but she will ask about payment. The opening bid is always 400k and they always accept the counter of 300k, it only being an hour after all. When they bring their friend, as I know they will, I will always feign embarrassed surprise and explain that I've only got 400k and couldn't possibly accept a second girl so I'll have to choose one.

At this point both girls do the same calculation;"I've come all this way, I've paid the transport costs, I'm here now, I don't much fancy going out and walking the corridors of this hotel for an hour for nothing and anyway why should she get all the money?" It only takes an instant and a quick glance at the other girl before they both shrug and say "Fair enough, we'll both stay for that". Never fails, every time.

Now before you lambaste me for the cheap cad that I no doubt am, remember, they asked to meet me, we agreed a price and no one mentioned a third wheel on the bicycle and anyway I'm a big softy really and if they turn out to be good sports, which more often than not they do, I can usually manage to locate an extra 100k in my back pocket for their ongkos. I should point out that usually the girls will be sms'ing me again a week later so they don't seem terribly upset about the outcome.

Anyway like I say by evening time I stagger down to the checkout with no doubt an inane grin on my face and the receptionist pretends to be surprised that I am checking out so soon and I wearily set off into Jakarta's Friday evening rush hour wondering how long do I expect to last at this rate?

A few photos of my favourites will be posted in the gallery. [/QUOTE]WOuld love to be on the sms list. .

Dorman has won some lucky strike there. It seems his PM Inbox is busy too.

Doman empty your box a little and allow some enquiries like mine, or drop me a PM to start the ball rolling. Would love to help out.

I had something similar happen to me a few years ago. Met a girl in a north jakarta night club who was there with her college friends. I gave her my number and had a nice afternoon with her the following weekend, then it seems she passed my number around. At first it was quite fun waiting to see what the girls would look like when they showed up. But the problem with getting those sms from girls I'd never met before is that some of them were downright ugly when they arrived. Sure there were some very nice ones, but it got to the point where I didn't find it worth the time to wait for the girls to come just to be disappointed. I found it preferable to run down to Malio or Sariayu and pick a nice one out of a lineup than hit or miss with the "good" girls looking for extra cash.

However, I didn't have a hand phone that had picture capability back then. I think if it happens again, I'll ask them to send me their photo via sms prior to my acceptance of them visiting.

Dorman, you have some cute girls there, but weren't there some disappointments as well? (maybe you were luckier than I was) Good work regardless!

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1165559]Dorman, you have some cute girls there, but weren't there some disappointments as well? (maybe you were luckier than I was) Good work regardless![/QUOTE]Of course but not often, that's where the double act comes in handy, if a girl is a bit rough looking invariably she brings a cute friend.

However as I get older I rate attitude higher than looks, I recall posting pictures of an extremely hot girl a year or so back which caused quite a stir but she was a complete starfish whereas "Ela" whose photos are posted hasn't the greatest looking face but with those tits and an attitude to match I'd be delighted to hook up again. That's also why I try to schedule in several meetings in the course of an afternoon, you do get the odd munter but it averages out and there are usually many more attractive girls and even the occasional stunners.

As an example last Friday my first two weren't bad and a nice start to the day, then came three girls (I had only booked one) one of whom was Ela, that turned out to be a fantastic couple of hours, really great fun and a lot of laughs. This was followed up by another threesome, two looked great and the third was a bit fat and unattractive (I think she was the one who made the booking) but to give her credit she knew this and left, I presume she would get a cut later of the proceeds. As it turned out the two remaining though pretty and with good bodies weren't especially outgoing and a bit shy, wrapped in towels coming out of the bathroom, wanting to turn the lights out etc. But still not too bad (perhaps I was judging them too harshly on the preceding batch) and a decent enough finale.

Overall of course there are times when a simple line-up in the Malioboro (such as I enjoyed on Sunday night) is all you need in the same way you can't be bothered checking out some new restaurant in the other end of town and just settle for a Dominos' pizza to fulfil the same need but the whole pot luck element adds a bit to the fun.

[QUOTE=Westcoast1;1160882]Gents help me out. Jalan Jaksa is just south of Monas? Ronin, its a street filled with low-end hotels. SW's abound.[/QUOTE]Just a quick thanks for the advice. I had hoped to be writing a report by now but as it turns out my flight got in 2 hours late and I lost my window of opportunity. However, I should be back in Jakarta for a few days in Sept so am looking fwd to trying out Jalan Malioboro and Hotel Classic.

Just before leaving Singapore I met a girl from Batam in Geylang. She was just about to leave to catch the ferry back but I convinced her to do a quick short time. She was very good looking. To me; darker brown skin, maybe 19yo, cute face, but starfished in bed; worth the S$70 though especially since I didn't have time to play in Jakarta.

Great stuff Dorman. You're a local Jakarta monger now. Thanks for sharing.

Anyhow, cruising into Jakarta in about a week or so. Anybody want to meet up and go party a little?

Going to be balancing monkey business with night clubbing and trying our "luck" hehe. PM me if you're here on vacation.

[QUOTE=Bbfs Hunter;1166038]Great stuff Dorman. You're a local Jakarta monger now.[/QUOTE]Congratulations uncle! LOL!

[QUOTE=Dorman; 1165203]I don't know who she is or what she's getting out of it but somewhere out there in this great big city there is a girl who put me on some sort of mailing list and my hp number seems to be changing hands through the impecunious university students of north and west Jakarta like snuff at a wake. All I can do is thank her and assure her there is a soft spot in my heart reserved for such a kind hearted lass as she.

It all started a few months ago when I got an sms from an unknown number asking to meet me, she used my (assumed) name and told me she had got my number from Tini or some such name, a girl I had apparently met last year but about whom I have absolutely no recollection. Anyway I arranged to meet the following Friday afternoon (I knock off work early on Fridays) in my favourite pick-up hotel in Kota and was pleasantly surprised when two very smartly dressed young women showed up, one nineteen and the other twenty two. University students from Salemba they were looking to make some pulsa money and had got my number from the aforementioned friend. Well we had a very nice afternoon and off they went.

But then it went viral, and now from Wednesday afternoon onwards I start getting sms's from numbers I don't know all claiming to be friends of some lady in my past and asking to meet up. My Fridays are now a frenzy of scheduling and being a middle aged British man I love my neat orderly timetables but unfortunately when this is combined with the time-keeping abilities of young Indonesian women chaos can sometimes reign. With my two fifteen arriving a quarter of an hour early I have to give my twelve thirty, who came half an hour late, the bum's rush out the door. It's like one of those bedroom farces, I'm waving off one set as I rush around tidying the room with the next set already on the way up in the lift. By six thirty I'm thoroughly knackered and ready for home.

You will notice I mentioned "set" and how the original girl turned up with a friend, well this is one of the nice bonuses because of course these girls never want to go to a strange man's hotel room alone so they always come in pairs (or indeed in threes). In the course of the sms arrangements the girl never mentions a friend knowing I will probably tell her to come alone but she will ask about payment. The opening bid is always 400k and they always accept the counter of 300k, it only being an hour after all. When they bring their friend, as I know they will, I will always feign embarrassed surprise and explain that I've only got 400k and couldn't possibly accept a second girl so I'll have to choose one.

At this point both girls do the same calculation;"I've come all this way, I've paid the transport costs, I'm here now, I don't much fancy going out and walking the corridors of this hotel for an hour for nothing and anyway why should she get all the money?" It only takes an instant and a quick glance at the other girl before they both shrug and say "Fair enough, we'll both stay for that". Never fails, every time.

Now before you lambaste me for the cheap cad that I no doubt am, remember, they asked to meet me, we agreed a price and no one mentioned a third wheel on the bicycle and anyway I'm a big softy really and if they turn out to be good sports, which more often than not they do, I can usually manage to locate an extra 100k in my back pocket for their ongkos. I should point out that usually the girls will be sms'ing me again a week later so they don't seem terribly upset about the outcome.

Anyway like I say by evening time I stagger down to the checkout with no doubt an inane grin on my face and the receptionist pretends to be surprised that I am checking out so soon and I wearily set off into Jakarta's Friday evening rush hour wondering how long do I expect to last at this rate?

A few photos of my favourites will be posted in the gallery. [/QUOTE]We really would like you to live a few extra years, so perhaps if the strain has been telling, you might want to pass something to an understudy to help you deal with the volume. ;) I'm normally available Tuesdays to Fridays when I'm in town. But even then I doubt I could match your single afternoon turnover. Perhaps you should also call Menteng back to help you. :D

MD II

[QUOTE=Master Diver II; 1166372]We really would like you to live a few extra years, so perhaps if the strain has been telling, you might want to pass something to an understudy to help you deal with the volume. . I'm normally available Tuesdays to Fridays when I'm in town. But even then I doubt I could match your single afternoon turnover. Perhaps you should also call Menteng back to help you. .

MD II[/QUOTE]I think of it as we are all social workers helping out with the ones you want to help out because she has some specialty which proves endorsement.

Tried to post this report a couple of days ago, I actually rewrote it in ISG, took me about 2 hours, after that I pushed the add report button the forum went nuts and became white. So I try again in shorter versions and parts. I have abused this forum to long and I'm sorry for that. You may find my report boring though I must say I had a great time in Jakarta. Maybe some newbie find this report interesting. Its the third time since I got home to Europe, that I wake up and don't know where I am, what hotel, alone? It happened before when I have come home from asia. Must be that Padang food we ate JAD.

Part 1:

Only handluggage in the x-ray, through custom. I had some presc. Medicine but they did not open the bag. (Fisherman had told me that they don't scan the handluggage, hehe). Took a preordered silver to Le-Meridien, and when my luggage was in the room, nice deluxe room by the way but nothing special, I went to Plaza Indo to eat. As I told the waitress it was my first time in Jakarta I got her number, she told me she was free on Monday. I had this crappy HP I bought in BKK, wich I had to recharge every 6 hours or so, and it soon became a problem. I took a taxi back to the hotel. Had a nap but got awake in time to take a shower and then about 7PM I got a call from Mr JAD the II..Is it Primo Bolan? This is JAD, meet me in the lobby. (Sounded like I had an appointment with KGB). So I went down and after some small chat, we walked straight out in the night. JAD is a really nice guy and very social. It was the first time ever, from what I know, that I met someone from the forum. Hotel Travel, Kings Cross and Malioboro, they vere all hot places full of beutiful girls, but I like to hunt. I think we went to Blok M also but everything seems like a fog of girls, bars and new impressins, because it was my first time in Jakarta and Indonesia. But JAD was always there to help, giving info about everything and anything I needed to know.

Continues.

Nothing is cronicle.

Blok-M girls. Took a girl with me lt from the blok a fiver. When in bed I realized that she had her period. Could not fuck her anymore. Walked her through security in the morning. She was happy with that. Second one was from TG, again nothing special, a fiver. We agreed on st. Nice body but not her face. I did her and when I told her to leave she didn't want so I said ok she could stay. What happened after that I don't understand, and its actually something I will remember for a while. Things can get out of hands when you are in a new country with new grounds. Thats a lesson learned. In Thailand or the Philippines I'm more familiar in how to handle things like this but suddenly I felt unsure. I was in a country where I can get hanged when people don't like me. Before I went to Jakarta I told myself to keep a low profile.

She went in to the shower and showered for about 1, 5-2 hours and used everything of the five star showering and bath accessories she could find in the bathroom. I was in the bed all the time and when she came out I told her to leave. I was pissed and not so nice anymore. She wanted my hp number, even when I was shouting at her to leave. She refused. I had to fysicly throw her out of the room and then I called the front desk. I told them I had a problem with a girl and they told me that they will speak to the security. I felt that I was making a fool of myself in this hotel. I could not stay in the room because I was to angry. When I took a step out of there I saw her sitting on a chair infront of the elevator, crying. I took a deep breath, thought ok I walk her out, and I did. She was crying all the time and outside of the hotel she was looking at me with red eyes and sad face. I was beginning to feel bad about myself and sending her away. I could see infront of me all the girls of tg shouting at me that I was a complete bastard.

Time was about 3am, I guess, when I took her back to my room. I had to take care of her now, pampering her and she fell "asleep" on the sofa so I must carry her to the bed as if we were just married. We slept all day and in the afternoon she went in to the shower but this time not so long. After that she wanted to have sex. I was going to see JAD again and I didn't know how many times I had to perform. But she forced me to the bed and started a BJ. I said no all the time but things got started down there. She was wet as it can get and fingering herself with my hand so all I could do was to ding a ding dang my. We had a complete differrent sex this time and she moved her hips in circles. After that I wanted to leave but everything took so long time again and after a while I could hear the cleaning staff outside my door so I went out and told them its ok to clean my room. Inside I said we had to leave because they were going to clean the room. Took her to blok-m plaza after a long taxiride over town, she had to do some stuff I couldn't figure out what. She then wanted to eat together with me, but I said goodbye, gave her my number and walked away very fast, to Melaway.

Melawai with camo.

Went upstairs, ordered a beer. About 5PM and I came in the middle of the shiftchange so only two old soso ladies were sitting in the pickupbar waiting for clients. I was the only one. Two barguys served me and I could see some sports on the tv hanging on the wall in the corner. This place is not big and it looks as it has seen better days. Suddenly I saw a third girl that I didn't see when I walked inside. Normal clothes and speaking to one of the two, sitting beside her, checking a hp display, a stunner well nearly. I didn't know who she were but I could see that she was connected to the place somehow, she knew I was looking at her. The two guys behind the bar realized that to. She stood up and waved goodbye to me, went outside the room and I never saw her again. Such a nice girl she couldn't work here anyway, thats what I thought. I've lost her. After a while one of the barguys asked me if I wanted one of the two ladies, but I said no. I smiled and told him I wanted the girl in camotrousers and white top who just leaved. The other guy went out and after a couple of minutes he came back and then came the camogirl. She spoke good english and told me that she worked dayshift and was going home but the barguy brought her back and the mama had told her that it was ok to serve me. Brown skin, supernice body, BBBJ and a great performer. Charming girl. JAD gave me some good info later that I didn't think of when I was in M.

TV and the girl.

Went to an area with bars somewhere around loksa surry in the north, I forgot the name. It was bars on each side of the road. We went inside one and it was dark, smoky, very loud music and crowded. I took a beer and we sat in the bar looking around. Here the girls went by and noone stayed for a chat. Suddenly I saw her, a chica I wanted very much and I told JAD who ran after but he came back and asked me wich one it was. I pointed her out and he went for her, chatting with her for a while. They came to me and she told me the only english she knew-I like you missterr. She was young, cute and with a perfect body, not to thin. After we had smile for a while we went upstairs, into a small but clean and nice room, shower and a tv. She turned on the tv immedietely and started to stare. We showered but as soon as she got out of the shower she sat at the end of the bed and stared at the tv. I could have turned it off but but I knew that JAD had told her, if she perform well she will get a tip, so I thought what the hell she will perform soon. I tried to make her concentrate on something else but her eyes was on that tv-show. I took her doggie with her head towards the tv. She was tv possessed. I was beginning to feel that its not going to work, and if I turned it off it wouldn't matter. I've had enough, she would not perform. Clothes on and don't look back. I can still here her voice.I'm sorry, I'm sorry mr, when I closed the door behind me and went downstairs.

CJs and a fattie bonus.

Mulia looks like a palace when walking through the lobby. Thats my first impression. But I know that some hotels have a nice "face" and the rooms can be another story. Mulia looks nice and have a good reputation in tripadvisor, right now its nr 2 in the Jakarta rating. We went inside CJs and it was a big place with a big scene and a live band that played occasionally and some other music in between. We had some beer in the bar (and I had one on the floor). There were not to many girls but the number were rising after a while and I walked around in a candyshop with big eyes, trying to chat with some. They opened with one juta but came down when they realized how nice I was, hehe.

A pro in the bar seemed interested and I bought her a gt. A sexy girl in a white dress that stopped on her ass, yes you remember her JAD. But she was a bit expensive. Around 2AM (desperate time for the girls) I spoke to a real hot one. I asked her for the price and she told me one juta, I countered with 700 but she said no. I walked away towards JAD and he realized I had a stalker. It was the girl I just chatted with. Ok 700 LT she told me. We took a taxi to Le-Meridien. When inside the room I suddenly remembered that I had not told her about the rules before we left CJs.

-Ok this is the deal 700 and you stay until 9:00AM, if you leave before that its half ok? She said ok and I was surprised it was no discussion at all. What a nice body I think this one had one of the nicest bodies I have ever been with. And she could fuck. She wore the white catsuite that I brought with me and was eager to please all the time. We fucked in the morning also, cof, and about 10AM she actually asked me if it was ok for me if she leaved. I got her number on a paper because my phone was dead as usual.

Fattie with a face.

This street had some bahasa name I forgot, but it was really dark and I wouldn't walk around here alone. I wrote it down in my hp but its not working now. JAD took me to see the darker side of everything, with my eyes wide shut. So also this time. We went into one of the bars on this harsh street, and the first thing that struck me was the loudest music I've ever heard in a bar. Techno mania. Very dark place and a bit crowded, girls everywhere with their mamas and papas, eh. I sat down and ordered a bintang, big one with a glass. One papa showed his girls one by one in a kind of ruff way and pushed the girls towards me. Cutie after cutie and it was just to play along and smile. I walked around and was told by one of the mamas to sit down with her girls and so I did. She then showed me a cutie but a bit chubby girl for my taste-Big tits, mama told me and grabbed them. Well it looked so but it was kind of hard to see in the dark. After JAD told me that I have to feel the flesh before buying, haha. Well what the hell, I took her and we went up to a room. When we were inside the room I discovered how fat she was and her saggy tits were not big at all. I had to help her with her corsetzipper, because she was so fat it was stucked. I remember I was thinking that it is to late to bang now and its just to go through with it right away. She took a deep breath and the zipper went down, now everything came out, floating. We took a shower but it was to small for both of us so we had to do it one by one. She sat on the bed and gave me a nice BBBJ, atleast she had a nice cute face that I liked to fuck. Then it was doggie time. Once I was inside it was as good as always because everything moved by itself once I got started. Soft and smoth.

Had a laugh with JAD after, he did not realize what girl I took. I think we went to Blok-M after that or was it the massage in D without the HJ for one of us?

Dear Jakarta thread!

Of course I have not brought in everything to this report, It was more girls and more black ops but they are either classified or my mind is getting old. The report would simply be to big and never end, and I am tired now, I'm an old man.

Me and JAD also did some cultural stuff and one day we went to the old city to have a look at the history of Jakarta with some museums and the pier, but thats another story. I like Jakarta because of the beutiful girls and I felt that everyone was very helpful with everything, well almost. Maybe I am just tired of the Philippines and Thailand.

When the mongering places are spread out as in Jakarta the biggest problem must be the traffic, sometimes it could be a real pain to sit in a taxi and see the time pass by.

I also tried the DIA but I rather try to forget about that. I did not follow up with the Indo Plaza girl, but I will be back to have my revenge on Jakarta some day. Thanks JAD it was a nice time I had with you.

As Always Primo Bolan

Hey guys, some fantastic reports going on here.

I currently live in Bangkok, but will be relocating to Jakarta in three months. I'm wondering about something:

- is it a silly idea to buy about 50 packets of Kamagra jelly here in Bangkok and bring them there with me? Is it readily available there?

I've visited once before, but just brought my own stuff with me (only about 5 packets) , so I didn't bother looking around to buy some.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated (and I'll have reports shortly after I arrive, I'm sure).

Cheers

@Dorman: You're one lucky, sir. You should really consider to get a "practice license" with the kind of pace you're in right now, and judging by the business growth and market demands I'd also suggest you to start a "franchise" (which I'll be more than willing to be your first outlet heheh.).

@Primo Bolan: Fantastic series of report man! My fav is the fattie with a face episode. It really cracked me up which makes me regret reading it at work place. Hahaha

Can not find it in Indo and like the pine apple Best.

[QUOTE=Billycrudup221; 1167420]Hey guys, some fantastic reports going on here.

I currently live in Bangkok, but will be relocating to Jakarta in three months. I'm wondering about something:

- is it a silly idea to buy about 50 packets of Kamagra jelly here in Bangkok and bring them there with me? Is it readily available there?

I've visited once before, but just brought my own stuff with me (only about 5 packets) , so I didn't bother looking around to buy some.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated (and I'll have reports shortly after I arrive, I'm sure).

Cheers[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dorman;1165203]I don't know who she is or what she's getting out of it but somewhere out there in this great big city there is a girl who put me on some sort of mailing list and my hp number seems to be changing hands through the impecunious university students of north and west Jakarta like snuff at a wake. All I can do is thank her and assure her there is a soft spot in my heart reserved for such a kind hearted lass as she.[/QUOTE]How much for your SIM? .

[QUOTE=Smoothy; 1165559]I had something similar happen to me a few years ago. Met a girl in a north jakarta night club who was there with her college friends. I gave her my number and had a nice afternoon with her the following weekend, then it seems she passed my number around. At first it was quite fun waiting to see what the girls would look like when they showed up. But the problem with getting those sms from girls I'd never met before is that some of them were downright ugly when they arrived. Sure there were some very nice ones, but it got to the point where I didn't find it worth the time to wait for the girls to come just to be disappointed. I found it preferable to run down to Malio or Sariayu and pick a nice one out of a lineup than hit or miss with the "good" girls looking for extra cash.

However, I didn't have a hand phone that had picture capability back then. I think if it happens again, I'll ask them to send me their photo via sms prior to my acceptance of them visiting.

Dorman, you have some cute girls there, but weren't there some disappointments as well? (maybe you were luckier than I was) Good work regardless! [/QUOTE]I've experienced the "Friend Factor" experience several times and now experiencing it with a uni student from Tangerang. Like you say there a some hits and misses. The best group of girls I have come across is the Betawi Mafia as I call them. A few of you regulars to TG will know them, Niken who is dancing at Highway to Elle, Lydia a real sultry long haired diva, Weli, Fia etc. I first met Niken and Lydia around 2006 at TG and ended up doing most of their hot friends since. There used to be around 15++ of them cousins, nieces, aunties friends and all Betawi girls. I just bumped into Niken and Lydia a month or so back at TG and they are still the same. High spirited, party girls who know how to party. I used to have a deal with them because they knew when my payday was that when I was broke I could get 3 for 1 million. This was several years ago as they are asking around 1jta++ now. Last time I was asking for JD and cokes from Niken then she would go up and seduce some guy get the guy to buy her a drink then give me her drink that the guy just bought her.

Last time I got totally pissed with free beer and bourbon but had to pay for the pussy. Awesome chicks!

[QUOTE=KangK;1168512]Last time I was asking for JD and cokes from Niken then she would go up and seduce some guy get the guy to buy her a drink then give me her drink that the guy just bought her.[/QUOTE]

And you accepted that drink? Come on dude. I believe that's in violation of the Man Code.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1168777]And you accepted that drink? Come on dude. I believe that's in violation of the Man Code.[/QUOTE]I have to agree with Smoothy on this one, if you really are that hard up for a drink then I really have to question your moral values. I hate to say this to fellow mongerers but even we need to have certain standards.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1168777]And you accepted that drink? Come on dude. I believe that's in violation of the Man Code.[/QUOTE]Accepted it? Read again. He did a hell of a lot more than accept it.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1168777]And you accepted that drink? Come on dude. I believe that's in violation of the Man Code.[/QUOTE]It probably does violate the Man Code but any chance we can get something back off the ceweks is a plus in my book after all the "philanthropy work" I have invested in over the years. Hehehe

[QUOTE=KangK;1168512]Last time I was asking for JD and cokes from Niken then she would go up and seduce some guy get the guy to buy her a drink then give me her drink that the guy just bought her.![/QUOTE]Never, ever. I've seen it backfire badly. When the guy realized what was happening he walked up to the freeloader, called him a ****, grabbed him by the collar, pulled his head down and smashed his face with his knee. Three times, before he just turned and walked out of the bar. It was all over in a few seconds. The other guy's face was a bloody, pulpy mess.

I will be in Grand Kemang on July 24Th. Anyone knows a good massage plus plus or FJ nearby? And Perhaps Roomservice?

[QUOTE=ImaHore;1169189]Never, ever. I've seen it backfire badly. When the guy realized what was happening he walked up to the freeloader, called him a ****, grabbed him by the collar, pulled his head down and smashed his face with his knee. Three times, before he just turned and walked out of the bar. It was all over in a few seconds. The other guy's face was a bloody, pulpy mess.[/QUOTE]I'm 6'.88kgs and alean mean surfing machine so I can get away with pretty much anything I want to do and I do.

[QUOTE=KangK;1169121]It probably does violate the Man Code but any chance we can get something back off the ceweks is a plus in my book after all the "philanthropy work" I have invested in over the years. Hehehe[/QUOTE]It was the man who paid for that drink, not the ceweks!

[QUOTE=Menteng;1169586]It was the man who paid for that drink, not the ceweks![/QUOTE]A "man" can pay for his drinks himself, no need to use ceweks or other guys.

Pitiful guy in case the story is true.

[QUOTE=KangK;1169504]I'm 6'.88kgs and alean mean surfing machine so I can get away with pretty much anything I want to do and I do.[/QUOTE]Of course you are. You are probably bullet proof too. The guy who got beaten up was bigger than you. Surprise did the damage. He had no chance to react, and got what he deserved.

[QUOTE=KangK;1169121]It probably does violate the Man Code but any chance we can get something back off the ceweks is a plus in my book after all the "philanthropy work" I have invested in over the years. Hehehe[/QUOTE]Sounds rather "pimpy".

NO

It took me a year of traveling to Jakarta to discover the amazing opportunities available with "normal" girls in Jakarta.

I never thought I would be dragging myself away from the delights of Alexis and Malio but the normal girls here fuck better than the Pros!

What is it with women in Indon? They seem to be made for sex and make you feel like a king and a tiger in bed. They are all freaky and with the tightest pussies they seem to know instinctively how to please as a gf.

I spent a week with this real cute girl. 24 and gorgeous. Fucked like crazy for a week in jakarta and Bandung. On the morning I left jakarta she gave me a bbj just before we left room to have breakfast CIM and wa a thrill she had my spunk in her mouth as we got into a crowded lift. Shit, she says she is in love with me and wants to introduce me to my family! Not interested in that, but am sure going to use her as my fuck bunny when I'm next there.

I also met a cute girl in a headscarf. Could not believe she agreed to have a drink with me, was amazed that she followed me up to my hotel room but was most flabergasted that she was giving me a BBBJ. And she had definetely done it before.

My confidence in chatting up these cuties is sky rocketing.

I always pay for meals but apart from that these girls are freebies. I'm 33, average looks, out a shape. But seem to be able to pull anything here. I love this place.

I have a few pics I will put up

[QUOTE=Faaris;1170096]I also met a cute girl in a headscarf. Could not believe she agreed to have a drink with me, was amazed that she followed me up to my hotel room but was most flabergasted that she was giving me a BBBJ.[/QUOTE]Having had several "normal" girls with headscarf before, IMO wearing the headscarf doesn't mean too much. It's more if she's wearing open shoes, take a look whether she's wearing socks (covering her feet). If yes, then better forget about it. IMHO.

Love Jakarta too. Cheers!

[QUOTE=Faaris; 1170096]It took me a year of traveling to Jakarta to discover the amazing opportunities available with "normal" girls in Jakarta.

I never thought I would be dragging myself away from the delights of Alexis and Malio but the normal girls here fuck better than the Pros!

What is it with women in Indon? They seem to be made for sex and make you feel like a king and a tiger in bed. They are all freaky and with the tightest pussies they seem to know instinctively how to please as a gf.

I spent a week with this real cute girl. 24 and gorgeous. Fucked like crazy for a week in jakarta and Bandung. On the morning I left jakarta she gave me a bbj just before we left room to have breakfast CIM and wa a thrill she had my spunk in her mouth as we got into a crowded lift. Shit, she says she is in love with me and wants to introduce me to my family! Not interested in that, but am sure going to use her as my fuck bunny when I'm next there.

I also met a cute girl in a headscarf. Could not believe she agreed to have a drink with me, was amazed that she followed me up to my hotel room but was most flabergasted that she was giving me a BBBJ. And she had definetely done it before.

My confidence in chatting up these cuties is sky rocketing.

I always pay for meals but apart from that these girls are freebies. I'm 33, average looks, out a shape. But seem to be able to pull anything here. I love this place.

I have a few pics I will put up[/QUOTE]Yep, have been doing the "good girls" for many many years, and yes they are amazing. Good, normal girls, many living at home with families and with good jobs in Jakarta, and they just love to fuck with not too many strings attached.

The religion is interesting. They do the prayer thing early morning in a corner of my hotel room while it is still dark, then back into bed for a couple of rounds of heavy sex before breakfast. Also sets me up nicely for at good day at work.

[QUOTE=Faaris;1170096]It took me a year of traveling to Jakarta to discover the amazing opportunities available with "normal" girls in Jakarta.[/QUOTE]So how'd you discover them? Any tips?

[QUOTE=Pita123;1170290]So how'd you discover them? Any tips?[/QUOTE]One girl I met at starbucks and asked to sit next to her. Bit of chatting up, do the old first time in jakarta story can you show me around and got a call the next day.

One girl I met on a reputbale matrimonial site and one the other was a waitress at a restraunt I was dining in.

I don't go for every girl, but am selective and then employ some charm.

100% success rate so far not one rejection, take chances it really pays in this city.

To get normal girls hang around at the better class malls. I don't know if I'm reading too much into this but every girl I have had has been from south jakarta!

If you pick up from clubs and bars. You get a different type of girl entirely, these girls never club or very rarely.

I never try to bed them on the first date, and by the second meet they are pulling their panties down. I guess you have to play to their conception of themselves as " good girls" and let them think they are ladies by being a gentleman on the first date. Its fine, I like the thrill and the sexual tension of wanting someone but not being able to have them immediately.

I guess because the normal girls are with parents they do not have many opportunities to have sex, and all that pent up sexual energy is released!

Oh the way those pussies hug tightly is magical.

I'll be there again this weekend cannot wait.

[QUOTE=D Cups;1170315]Hi Faaris, did you see any Jakartan cuties with big boobs? . Thanks.[/QUOTE]Hi D Cups,

Not too many. The women in this part of the world are not built like that generally. But yes, there are around but rarer. I have never had bigger than a C cup in jakarta. See cup is considered big boobs here!

[QUOTE=D Cups;1170315]did you see any Jakartan cuties with big boobs? . Thanks.[/QUOTE]I was sleeping by the pool at my hotel in Bali a while ago and when I woke up and opened my eyes, there was a gorgeous pair of big tits right in front of my face. The German girl beside me was topless and bending over to get something from her bag. Great way to wake up!

[QUOTE=Faaris; 1170310]One girl I met at starbucks and asked to sit next to her. Bit of chatting up, do the old first time in jakarta story can you show me around and got a call the next day.

One girl I met on a reputbale matrimonial site and one the other was a waitress at a restraunt I was dining in.

I don't go for every girl, but am selective and then employ some charm.

100% success rate so far not one rejection, take chances it really pays in this city.

To get normal girls hang around at the better class malls. I don't know if I'm reading too much into this but every girl I have had has been from south jakarta!

If you pick up from clubs and bars. You get a different type of girl entirely, these girls never club or very rarely.

I never try to bed them on the first date, and by the second meet they are pulling their panties down. I guess you have to play to their conception of themselves as " good girls" and let them think they are ladies by being a gentleman on the first date. Its fine, I like the thrill and the sexual tension of wanting someone but not being able to have them immediately.

I guess because the normal girls are with parents they do not have many opportunities to have sex, and all that pent up sexual energy is released!

Oh the way those pussies hug tightly is magical.

I'll be there again this weekend cannot wait. [/QUOTE]More or less my modus operandi. Have also had luck with Tagged and DIA, but need to be selective and invest time over a few weeks.

I too like to keep a couple of friendly, non-commercial but non-committal relationships when not hanging out in the shebeens of north Jakarta or trawling the campuses of Salemba. Indonesians even have a term for this sort of relationship, they call them "TTM", teman tapi mesra.

The thing you have to realise about a lot of women in Indonesia is that if they are not virgins and not married by 25 their choice of husband material is really quite limited. Most Indonesian men want to marry a virgin (I know, a huge generalisation but we'll let it stand for the time being) added to that is the fact that a disproportionate percentage of women are in decent jobs compared to men. Therefore a man with a decent job in Jakarta can pretty much have his pick of eligible young women to marry and bring home to Mummy. This leaves a huge heap of nice women in their twenties and early thirties, well educated and earning a reasonable wage but who might have been around the block a couple of times feeling a little bit left on the shelf.

These are the woman who any man who (a) knows how to dress (yes guys it is important, trust me no amount of inherent bule charm is going to overcome the sight of you in shorts and a Bintang singlet and flip flops in the centre of Jakarta on a weekday afternoon, would it kill ya to put on a pair of trousers and an ironed shirt?) , (b) can hold a reasonable conversation (limited BI helps but isn't necessarily essential and by conversation I usually mean listening and tut-tutting at appropriate points when she tells you her problems. Money and men basically. The problems are always the same) , (c) doesn't feel the need to email pictures of his cock to every woman he meets (why bother? She'll be getting a look at the real thing soon enough if you take it easy) and (d) is prepared to act like a half way normal, likable guy, should be scoring with at every opportunity. Starbucks and cafes attached to large office buildings in central Jakarta are target rich environments just be prepared to put your hand in your pocket for meals, drinks and taxi fares.

Think of it this way, you're a nice looking young woman, you're not a virgin and you like sex but you've broken up with a couple of guys along the way, your job's not bad but not really going anywhere, you live in a room in a boarding house or worse with your overbearing family in Bekasi. Meeting a nice enough bloke who will take you out for dinner to nice restaurants, nothing fancy but places you don't often visit, go to clubs with and allow you to let your hair down now and again, well it doesn't sound like such a bad deal. If a relationship develops great but if not you're no worse off. It's a win win situation.

The only problem for guys thinking about this is the risk of getting hooked. Simple really, do what I do; tell them you're married from the start, you might lose fifty percent of your options (worst case scenario) but that still leaves a hell of a lot of uncomplicated, no strings fun out there to enjoy.

Thats a pretty good analysis Doorman. I would agree on the most part. I would add that every freebie girl I have had (ok only 3 so far.) has also mentioned their dislike of marrying Indonesian men. Something I have not really understood yet. But whatever reason it is, the fact that your a foreigner also helps pull these girls.

Interesting point about declaring you already have a wife to avoid attachments. I'm not sure about this as I've never tried it but I have a feeling that I would not have got the girls I did if I declared I'm married to them, they do hope for something more I feel.

I'll be in Jakarta for a few days at the end of this week and intend to test the market very thoroughly this time. The only problem is its difficult to shag the girls the first time, you sometimes have to wait till your next in jakarta and have been building an sms relationship in between trips before they are ready to fuck. Or am I doing something wrong?

[QUOTE=Faaris; 1170720]Thats a pretty good analysis Doorman. I would agree on the most part. I would add that every freebie girl I have had (ok only 3 so far.) has also mentioned their dislike of marrying Indonesian men. Something I have not really understood yet. But whatever reason it is, the fact that your a foreigner also helps pull these girls.

Interesting point about declaring you already have a wife to avoid attachments. I'm not sure about this as I've never tried it but I have a feeling that I would not have got the girls I did if I declared I'm married to them, they do hope for something more I feel.

I'll be in Jakarta for a few days at the end of this week and intend to test the market very thoroughly this time. The only problem is its difficult to shag the girls the first time, you sometimes have to wait till your next in jakarta and have been building an sms relationship in between trips before they are ready to fuck. Or am I doing something wrong? [/QUOTE]If you travel across Asia you will find that girls in Philippines say they don't want to marry a Filipino guy, same in Thailand, same in Indonesia. They all say this. I've probabyl had about 10 or more Indon freebies as I used to visit there often.

I also ALWAYS tell my girls I'm married. Makes life so much easier and to be honest, even if I wasnt married, I would tell them I was. Creates a certain sense of " freedom".

[QUOTE=Dorman;1170708]... just be prepared to put your hand in your pocket for meals, drinks and taxi fares ...[/QUOTE]All of which can add up to a lot more than an hour or so in a knocking shop in North Jakarta in no time flat, even if the girl isn't pushing for cash and non-cash gifts. Don't get me wrong, freebies can be fun because the girls are a different kind from the pros. They actually enjoy sex and there is at least the pretence of seduction involved. Still, it's usually cheaper and less fuss to go with the pros.

My last freebie I met on DIA. Her main thing was her ongoing problems with the American fiance. She sometimes asks me to help write letters or to explain immigration and other factors. I also sympathise when she complains that the guy doesn't want a big wedding party, doesn't understand why her mother blah blah blah. She insists of fillet steak when we go out for dinner, but won't take a penny, even the proverbial "taxi money". Lovely girl, works at a travel agent, she's a little bit ashamed of what she considers her "excessive" sex drive and would like to be a good wife and mother. A pretty average Indonesian girl. She swallows and has great tits.

[QUOTE=Gonzo Two;1170770]All of which can add up to a lot more than an hour or so in a knocking shop in North Jakarta in no time flat, even if the girl isn't pushing for cash and non-cash gifts.[/QUOTE]Entirely correct, that's why I put inverted commas around the word freebies in the title.

When I'm feeling a bit fiscally conservative I do sometimes wonder how much I could have got in Panjay for what I just spent (including hotel room of course) on an afternoon with a "good girl" but there is simply no comparing the experiences. Dynamiting fish will produce a fine crop of dead fish after fifteen seconds which is very handy when all you really want is to eat fish whereas you could stand on a riverbank all afternoon patiently casting your line and never get a bite, but when you do the thrill of reeling one in makes up for all the time spent.

I am a huge fan of both methods of fishing; both have their time and place and both provide pleasure in different ways.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1170738]If you travel across Asia you will find that girls in Philippines say they don't want to marry a Filipino guy, same in Thailand, same in Indonesia. They all say this. I've probabyl had about 10 or more Indon freebies as I used to visit there often.

I also ALWAYS tell my girls I'm married. Makes life so much easier and to be honest, even if I wasnt married, I would tell them I was. Creates a certain sense of " freedom".[/QUOTE]To FreebieFan.

I also travel across Asia mostly China and I also tell all the girl that I am not married but I am not looking for a wife, I hear so many story from girl that guys will tell them they will marry her and take them back to the US and later break their heart and tell them they are already married, I don't understand why people lie and hurt the girl feeling just be upfront with them you don't want to get married.

Fast Eddie 48

Have to say that Travel Hotel in Manga Bessar VIII is way overrated here. I did not find any cewek to my liking. Although the mamasans are less pushy at Travel, the quality and quantity is way below what I saw at Hotel Classic in Pasar Baru, where I came across at least 10-15 stunners out of the hundred or so. Maybe it was becase I went just before closing time?

Anyone want to tag along for Alexis soon? New guy in town.

Have to agree though with what some others said here about freebie potential. I was in Starbucks in Kuta and a little cute Indo-Chinese sensed that I was having difficulty setting up my Indo SIM card, so she set it up for me and we soon got chatting why I was here. We headed to Plaza Senayan around the corner with her classy ride to this club whose name I forgot. I did not even pay for drinks. We then headed to her villa in some suburb nearby and while she was a pretty standard lay. Not bad for my first week in Jakarta.

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48; 1170998]To FreebieFan.

I also travel across Asia mostly China and I also tell all the girl that I am not married but I am not looking for a wife, I hear so many story from girl that guys will tell them they will marry her and take them back to the US and later break their heart and tell them they are already married, I don't understand why people lie and hurt the girl feeling just be upfront with them you don't want to get married.

Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]Some guys just don't have enough game or balls to actually tell them the truth. Its kinda sad how cowardly some of our fellow mongers are. I think even if I wasnt married I would tell the girls I date / lay that I was for an easier life LOL.

I always tell the girls I'm chatting with on DIA for instance that I'm married and that over 50% of the male hunters there are also married. They always reply " no the guys always tell me they are single ". Same old sad story. Guys. Grow a pair and be honest!

[QUOTE=Egy Monger; 1171280]Have to say that Travel Hotel in Manga Bessar VIII is way overrated here. I did not find any cewek to my liking. Although the mamasans are less pushy at Travel, the quality and quantity is way below what I saw at Hotel Classic in Pasar Baru, where I came across at least 10-15 stunners out of the hundred or so. Maybe it was becase I went just before closing time?

Anyone want to tag along for Alexis soon? New guy in town.[/QUOTE]Hotel Classic is definately better in price and general quality of cewek but like all places they are still very cyclic. I still check check the Travel as every now and then it still produces some gems like 5 weeks ago. I'm a Classic fan now but last time I went there on a Tuesday arvo between 5-7pm I was fairly disapointed and nearly going to leave and go to the Travel when a nice little Sunda girl appeared and put a smile on my face.

A female friend of mine is working in one of the karaoke clubs in Little Tokyo behind LT6 and told me I should check the place out as there are heaps of hot chicks there. I tried a couple of times in the 90's to try these clubs but was knocked back either by the satpams or the girls saying that if the Japanese or korean guy sees the girl with a bule she will be ostracised and won't get any more patrons. Over the many years here in Indo I have seen many many absolute stunners walking in or out of these clubs. Anyway on Tuesday night before catching my plane back to work I ventured forth and visited the club she is working in and was very pleasantly surprised.

Walked in and was greeted by a very doable mamasan who instructed me to sit down while she called the 60 girls down for the "Parade". Unfortunately the room can only fit about 40 of them so the other 20 stayed upstairs but I was certainly feeling pretty damned good inspecting the wares on offer. I must admit I have never been a fan of karaoke bars but I will definately be going back to this one club as there were 4-6 big full round breasted ceweks who were above average and the same again absolute stunners. Th initial outlay is not cheap but its certainly a good way to meet some good quality pussy get their numbers and meet them off site. 250 for the room. 180 for one girl for 3 hours and 30k for a beer. I played the gentleman and took my female friend and went to the room and got a BJ. There are no bedrooms only karaoke rooms. Next time I plan on getting 2-3 girls getting their numbers and employ them directly. The trick is look for a club without a Korean or Japanese name.

[QUOTE=KangK;1171534]Th initial outlay is not cheap but its certainly a good way to meet some good quality pussy get their numbers and meet them off site. 250 for the room. 180 for one girl for 3 hours and 30k for a beer. I played the gentleman and took my female friend and went to the room and got a BJ. There are no bedrooms only karaoke rooms. Next time I plan on getting 2-3 girls getting their numbers and employ them directly. The trick is look for a club without a Korean or Japanese name.[/QUOTE]I remember Borobudur and another one with only 2 consonants as a name, being visited by others than Koreans and Japanese. My experience however was, that next to the prices you mentioned and tipping for engineering the karaoke equipment, serving FB etc, you had to pay extra for carnal actions like BJ and HJ. No FS, though that could be arranged outside the premises.

The 180K you pay was only for the company of the girl: the LC.

[QUOTE=Menteng; 1171570]I remember Borobudur and another one with only 2 consonants as a name, being visited by others than Koreans and Japanese. My experience however was, that next to the prices you mentioned and tipping for engineering the karaoke equipment, serving FB etc, you had to pay extra for carnal actions like BJ and HJ. No FS, though that could be arranged outside the premises.

The 180K you pay was only for the company of the girl: the LC.[/QUOTE]Thats right I should have clarified that better as I had to pay extra for the BJ and FS. She just put a piece of tissue over the porthole window. The 180k is only for company of the girl for 3 hours. Even though I still don't like karaoke bars I will be visiting this one again as there is some great quality cewek there.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1171427]Some guys just don't have enough game or balls to actually tell them the truth. Its kinda sad how cowardly some of our fellow mongers are. I think even if I wasnt married I would tell the girls I date / lay that I was for an easier life LOL.

I always tell the girls I'm chatting with on DIA for instance that I'm married and that over 50% of the male hunters there are also married. They always reply " no the guys always tell me they are single ". Same old sad story. Guys. Grow a pair and be honest![/QUOTE]To FreebieFan.

If I tell the girl that I meet online that I am single never married and they don't believe me anyway, I am in my late forty and I tell them I am not looking for a wife just want some company on my business trip and some girl told me they will change me to a family man well I am still single like my freedom too much.

Fast Eddie 48

Popped by CJ's this Saturday around 12:30 AM. Friendly, welcoming staff and the band was superb, but the quality of cewek was average at best. In fact, I would say there are better-looking cewek at the nearby Blok M. I came across a stunner (the only one I could identify in the bar) near the cashier area as you walk in and she had an attitude that came with her (genuine) Louis Vuitton. At 1, 000, 000 IDR a pop, I felt it was a little too much for just 15-30 minutes of her time. As expected, she wouldn't budge even 100, 000 IDR and minutes later a Singaporean-looking guy snapped her up. It seems the bar clientelle is the corporate type, so people actually pay these prices. Oh, and the drinks are extremely overpriced. 35, 000 IDR for a glass of Coke!

Came across another less-cute but friendly girl who initiated contact after she caught me giving her a glimpse. She got a little turned off when I said I was looking for a Working Girl. She says she works as a Public Relations officer but is here with her friends. Thinking she may be here as a part-time WG, I ask her if she can go with me later on and she gives me a bad face. When I asked her why you came here, she said she is looking for a "rich white boyfriend". Nice place to find one!

[QUOTE=Egy Monger; 1171280]Have to say that Travel Hotel in Manga Bessar VIII is way overrated here. I did not find any cewek to my liking. Although the mamasans are less pushy at Travel, the quality and quantity is way below what I saw at Hotel Classic in Pasar Baru, where I came across at least 10-15 stunners out of the hundred or so. Maybe it was becase I went just before closing time?

Anyone want to tag along for Alexis soon? New guy in town.[/QUOTE]To EGY.

I been to Classic twice don't think girl are better looking than Hotel travel, I think the best time to go is before 8pm all the best one get pick before that, the problem with classic you cannot see the girl until after you change cloth and hotel travel you can have a drink with the girl first and you go to the room after you pick a girl no need to change in the locker room.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48; 1172328]To EGY.

I been to Classic twice don't think girl are better looking than Hotel travel, I think the best time to go is before 8pm all the best one get pick before that, the problem with classic you cannot see the girl until after you change cloth and hotel travel you can have a drink with the girl first and you go to the room after you pick a girl no need to change in the locker room.

Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]Fast Eddie I think you are confused with the bunker in Hotel Classic which is on the right hand side as you walk in as the Terminal is on the 2nd floor and the setup is fairly similar to HT. Best time is between 4-6pm for the WOW factor.

Hi guys,

I'm based in Europe and I've been spending my holidays in Pattaya (Thailand) over the last 2 years.

Honestly, I got a little fed up of the the big hassle with sometimes subsequent small room action you can get in Patts and I'd like a change.

Somehow I bounced then in the photo gallery of Indonesia and I don't know wheter this is the standard or an exception but it looks like you have better looking girls here (bigger tits and' ass at least) than in Thai. This got my attention, because I'm attracted by cuties (possibly inclined to hardcore sex).

So, I was wandering if you can help me to figure out what would it be a holiday here compared to Pattaya in terms of:

- P4P infrastructures and girls beauty / attitude.

- cost of living in general (hotels, food, transport).

- quality of beaches.

I'm writing in the Jakarta thread only because I would have better flight connections here than in Bali, but please consider that I do not know much about Indonesia at all, except that Bali is more touristic, maybe.

So, you can obviously answer both for Jakarta and Bali (I'm not copying and pasting this in the Bali thread only to avoid redundacy).

Or even pm me if you like an exchange of tips about Patts etc.

Thanks very much for your support.

[QUOTE=Sexual Healing;1172451]here compared to Pattaya.[/QUOTE]I did a quick search on the word "Pattaya" in the Indonesia section and found a few answers for you.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?965-Jakarta&p=1141133&highlight=pattaya#post1141133[/url]

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?965-Jakarta&p=1140863&highlight=pattaya#post1140863[/url]

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?961-General-Info&p=1126905&highlight=pattaya#post1126905[/url]

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?962-Bali&p=1027114&highlight=pattaya#post1027114[/url]

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?962-Bali&p=1022346&highlight=pattaya#post1022346[/url]


I've pulled some Thai girls with great tits and asses. I do think there may be slightly more big breasted girls in Indonesia and the Philippines than in Thailand, but Thai girls are hotter overall (in my opinion). I personally think the girls in Bangkok are better looking than the girls in Pattaya for the most part. And I also think the girls in Bangkok are better looking than the girls in Jakarta for the most part. Working and mongering in Jakarta and Bangkok is great. And if I were to stay long term in one area, it would likely be either Jakarta or Bangkok to avoid the boredom of the small city beach scene. But for a 2 week vacation, the way Pattaya is setup and so convenient and cheap to move around, with cheap hotels in abundance it's hard to beat. Angeles City is even cheaper but not as nice when it comes to infrastructure. You've hit the mother load when you found Pattaya. But variety is the spice of life and if you want to try a new place other than Pattaya - Bangkok, Angeles City, Manila, and Jakarta are all good places to visit.

If you are into "hard core" sex, have you tried the Eden Club in Bangkok yet?

Okay, so I agree that it's a good idea to say you're married if you are. But what about the ring? Do you guys take off the ring or leave it on?

[QUOTE=Sgloming;1172631]Okay, so I agree that it's a good idea to say you're married if you are. But what about the ring? Do you guys take off the ring or leave it on?[/QUOTE]If you've already said you're married, what's the issue with keeping the ring on? I always say I'm married with kids. Not breaking up, definitely unable to enter into contract marriage / marriage with them, but willing to be a friend. I have had a couple of the girls still getting emotionally attached (JAD says they give "that look") despite all the warnings and being upfront and honest as to my status. But the ring is a good reminder to them of your status so better leave it on.

MD II

[QUOTE=Faaris; 1170720]Thats a pretty good analysis Doorman. I would agree on the most part. I would add that every freebie girl I have had (ok only 3 so far.) has also mentioned their dislike of marrying Indonesian men. Something I have not really understood yet. But whatever reason it is, the fact that your a foreigner also helps pull these girls.

Interesting point about declaring you already have a wife to avoid attachments. I'm not sure about this as I've never tried it but I have a feeling that I would not have got the girls I did if I declared I'm married to them, they do hope for something more I feel.

I'll be in Jakarta for a few days at the end of this week and intend to test the market very thoroughly this time. The only problem is its difficult to shag the girls the first time, you sometimes have to wait till your next in jakarta and have been building an sms relationship in between trips before they are ready to fuck. Or am I doing something wrong?[/QUOTE]Hey faaris

How did it go?

[QUOTE=Master Diver II; 1172653]If you've already said you're married, what's the issue with keeping the ring on? I always say I'm married with kids. Not breaking up, definitely unable to enter into contract marriage / marriage with them, but willing to be a friend. I have had a couple of the girls still getting emotionally attached (JAD says they give "that look") despite all the warnings and being upfront and honest as to my status. But the ring is a good reminder to them of your status so better leave it on.

MD II[/QUOTE]Whenever I monger, I say upfront that I am married with kids (and I am). But I leave the ring in the safe. No way I am taking a chance on losing that!

Anyone have any experience with the Jayakarta Hotel and its Club 36?

(Club 36 Hotel Jayakarta, Jalam Hayam Wuruk 126) Search did not lead to anything. Thanks, TTG

In my opinion, Club 36 is a waste of time. If you don't book a table in advance, you won't get one without paying someone there some money to get one. And the way the place is set up, you need a table. They do have topless dancers that show up around midnight. Some Thai, some Indo. And there are some lady escorts there who will try to get you to buy them drinks. The place is basically all locals who come there with a bunch of friends and buy bottle after bottle of liquor (which guarantees them a table). In the old days, this was one of the few venues with topless dancers, so it was a novelty. Now I can see topless dancers all over the place, so this place isn't worth my time. Yes, it does have Thai girls dancing there, but I go to Thailand all the time so that's far from a novelty for me to see that.

[quote=sexual healing;1172451]so, i was wandering if you can help me to figure out what would it be a holiday here compared to pattaya.[/quote]i wouldn't call the scene here as particularly easy. it's not "in your face" like thailand, so you need to deal with the constant hassle of moving from one place to another with taxi drivers that could learn how speeding in a traffic jam won't really solve any problem. and nobody really speaks english here, so there is always confusion. on the other hand, the quality of cewek here is much better than what you'd find in even bangkok in my opinion. pattaya is just a shithole where the leftovers from all across the country end up.

met up with smoothy the other day and hit classic hotel. there's definitely better stock in the afternoon than night.

[QUOTE=Smoothy; 1172620]I did a quick search on the word "Pattaya" in the Indonesia section and found a few answers for you.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?965-Jakarta&p=1141133&highlight=pattaya#post1141133[/url]

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?965-Jakarta&p=1140863&highlight=pattaya#post1140863[/url]

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?961-General-Info&p=1126905&highlight=pattaya#post1126905[/url]

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?962-Bali&p=1027114&highlight=pattaya#post1027114[/url]

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?962-Bali&p=1022346&highlight=pattaya#post1022346[/url]

I've pulled some Thai girls with great tits and asses. I do think there may be slightly more big breasted girls in Indonesia and the Philippines than in Thailand, but Thai girls are hotter overall (in my opinion). I personally think the girls in Bangkok are better looking than the girls in Pattaya for the most part. And I also think the girls in Bangkok are better looking than the girls in Jakarta for the most part. Working and mongering in Jakarta and Bangkok is great. And if I were to stay long term in one area, it would likely be either Jakarta or Bangkok to avoid the boredom of the small city beach scene. But for a 2 week vacation, the way Pattaya is setup and so convenient and cheap to move around, with cheap hotels in abundance it's hard to beat. Angeles City is even cheaper but not as nice when it comes to infrastructure. You've hit the mother load when you found Pattaya. But variety is the spice of life and if you want to try a new place other than Pattaya. Bangkok, Angeles City, Manila, and Jakarta are all good places to visit.

If you are into "hard core" sex, have you tried the Eden Club in Bangkok yet?[/QUOTE]Thanks Smoothy, very clever. Didn't know the key to do that search.

I got the picture. Definitely I'm on 2 weeks vacation, so I will probably stick to Pattaya.

Never been to the Eden Club, so don't know what happens there. Only once in Bangkok, but I didn't like it as a tourist, it's too chaotic and big.

By the way, with "hardcore" I just meant a girl who doesn't dislike a cim or who is not scared to try anal, since most of the thai chicks seem to avoid the two.

[QUOTE=Sexual Healing; 1173141.] I got the picture. Definitely I'm on 2 weeks vacation, so I will probably stick to Pattaya.[/QUOTE]If you invest a little time and effort, you'll be rewarded in Jakarta. I'd suggest signing up for JAD's paid tour for one night to get the lay of the land, and then go out on your own. You just need to know a few key areas to hit and the best times to visit.

Greetings.

Anyone have the 411 (Hot and Sexi yung girls) in Top Gun, M Bar and D's Place as of recent? I lived in Jakarta 2006 for 1 year and was there 2 to 3 nights per week.

Any information will be helpful.

Tried out the Sun City spa. Got to hand it to them, they've got a nice-looking place. And I actually got a very good massage on the top of the, um, rest of it.

But they wouldn't do the line up. They said they only do the line up with the Chinese girls. Otherwise, you have to sort of just tell the mamasan.

What kind of girl you want, and you can only refuse three times. What the hell? I ask you, what the hell?

Is it the same in the Karoake, or do they do the line up? Is the cost and all that the same, too? Do you actually sing with the girls first or is it just that you've got that room to what you need to do?

They've got those long hallways. Fun to watch the girls escort the guys back into the lounge area afterward. The guys all kind of dazed and blissed out, the.

Girls almost maternal. Good people watching.

I agree with Smoothy that Club 36 is a bit of a waste of time. I showed up in January at around 3:30 am and it was basically as he said. But, there is no problem getting a table at that time time. I ended up sitting up on the balcony area that encircles most of the place. Good view but I would go elsewhere.

[QUOTE=Eltigrepequeno;1174918]Hi traveler, can you please provide me advice on how to contact JAD? Somehow I cannot find his contact. Since I will be in jakarta in October for my very first time, I would like to pm him before to arrange a tour. By the way, the rtff work I have already done, but anyway I will be quite a newbie then, when in jakarta.[/QUOTE]Sorry but not permitted to post tel or email addresses here. Go to the classified section to find his website and other information. Or better yet, pay Jackson the subscription fee so that you can get pm messages. Then I can pm you.

Pardon the question from left field, but I did not see this covered in the forum yet (read 50 pages back, may have missed it, but did my due diligence.) : Do any of the common places where you pay for room + girl (like Hotel Classic, Travel, etc.) allow you to use a credit card for this? Or is it cash only for everything? I assumed the latter, but just occurred to me to ask. (Of course, I'll bring lots of cash for tips, etc.)

[QUOTE=Nedsprofhlp;1175209]Pardon the question from left field, but I did not see this covered in the forum yet (read 50 pages back, may have missed it, but did my due diligence.) : Do any of the common places where you pay for room + girl (like Hotel Classic, Travel, etc.) allow you to use a credit card for this? Or is it cash only for everything? I assumed the latter, but just occurred to me to ask. (Of course, I'll bring lots of cash for tips, etc.)[/QUOTE]I haven't been to a place that won't take credit card, Malioboro, Alexis, Beverly Hills, Maribaya to name a few. I'm sure there are a few downmarket places that are "cash only" but most if not all the upmarket with take plastic. Last weekend at Alexis and you have to love that they put the room / girl charge under "Red wine bottle" or something similar. Makes it easy for anyone on an expense account, then again you might not want to risk that your boss has been to this place and knows the name.

[QUOTE=Nedsprofhlp;1175209]Pardon the question from left field, but I did not see this covered in the forum yet (read 50 pages back, may have missed it, but did my due diligence.) : Do any of the common places where you pay for room + girl (like Hotel Classic, Travel, etc.) allow you to use a credit card for this? Or is it cash only for everything? I assumed the latter, but just occurred to me to ask. (Of course, I'll bring lots of cash for tips, etc.)[/QUOTE]I've had credit card numbers stolen at least twice in Jakarta since 2006.

Neither instance had anything to do with an MP or spa, but still, my advice would be to always try to visit Hotel Classic, Travel, Malioboro, Alexis, or any other MP / spa on a cash-only basis. It reduces the risk of someone stealing your card number, also you don't leave an electronic / paper trail that you've ever been at such a place.

In fact, if I know I'm going into a questionable area, sometimes I'll leave every credit card at home and just go out with cash; even if my wallet is stolen, I can always take a cab back to my hotel / apartment and get money from there to pay the taxi driver.

[QUOTE=Eltigrepequeno;1174918]Hi traveler, can you please provide me advice on how to contact JAD? Somehow I cannot find his contact. Since I will be in Jakarta in October for my very first time, I would like to pm him before to arrange a tour. By the way, the rtff work I have already done, but anyway I will be quite a newbie then, when in jakarta.[/QUOTE]Go to the "Classified Ads" section of the Indonesia board and click on the 'last' page, you'll easily find an ad by ISG member "Jakarta After Dark 2" which includes his website address.

Your other option would be to type the letter w three times then a period then the words jakarta after dark as one word then a period then the letters see o m and you'll find his website.

JAD2's services are highly recommended by me. Money well spent for any first time visitor such as yourself.

Try not to use your credit card in Jakarta except for 5 star hotels as my card was cloned & I'm now in the process of either being sued by the bank or suing them for allowing this fraud! :(

[QUOTE=Nedsprofhlp;1175209]Pardon the question from left field, but I did not see this covered in the forum yet (read 50 pages back, may have missed it, but did my due diligence.) : Do any of the common places where you pay for room + girl (like Hotel Classic, Travel, etc.) allow you to use a credit card for this? Or is it cash only for everything? I assumed the latter, but just occurred to me to ask. (Of course, I'll bring lots of cash for tips, etc.)[/QUOTE]

Now I realised why Fisherman is back active in the forum but really surprised at the path he has taken! To each his own they say! All the best in your endeavors Fish!

[QUOTE=KL Guy;1113301]Wow you're alive! .[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman; 1175356]I've had credit card numbers stolen at least twice in Jakarta since 2006.

Neither instance had anything to do with an MP or spa, but still, my advice would be to always try to visit Hotel Classic, Travel, Malioboro, Alexis, or any other MP / spa on a cash-only basis. It reduces the risk of someone stealing your card number, also you don't leave an electronic / paper trail that you've ever been at such a place.

In fact, if I know I'm going into a questionable area, sometimes I'll leave every credit card at home and just go out with cash; even if my wallet is stolen, I can always take a cab back to my hotel / apartment and get money from there to pay the taxi driver.[/QUOTE]Hotel Classic, travel and most of the others do take credit card but it is risky as MS says. Last month I was forced to use my credit card as I had lost my Ozzy atm card and couldn't handle being in Jakarta with no cash to flash for some gash so used my credit card at HC & HT.

Dear Sirs.

Can I respectfully ask two questions please (and yes I have RTFF extensively which is why I am finally resorting to asking).

I know the area that Hotel Travel is in but what is the address or how exactly do I get there.

Second question is whether that bizarre Saturday afternoon disco in the same area is still open these days? That was a bizarre place but I sort of liked it. Is that still running on Saturdays?

Many thanks for any help anyone can offer.

Cheers.

BB

[QUOTE=KL Guy;1175457]Try not to use your credit card in Jakarta except for 5 star hotels as my card was cloned & I'm now in the process of either being sued by the bank or suing them for allowing this fraud! :([/QUOTE]In 15 years I've had my card cloned twice. I'm not going to say there is no risk but given thousands of transactions and two clonings I don't think the risk is unreasonably high. In both cloning instances I know exactly where they occurred, one was a Turkish restaurant and the other was a cigar bar in Plaza Senayan. Depending on where your card is issued your liability may be limited. In my case my maximum liability is $50 but in both cases the credit card company absorbed as it was obvious it was a fraudulent act. If you have an Indonesian credit card you may not be so lucky which is why I have a low credit limit on my Indonesia issued credit card.

[QUOTE=Bowerboy; 1175668]Dear Sirs.

Can I respectfully ask two questions please (and yes I have RTFF extensively which is why I am finally resorting to asking).

I know the area that Hotel Travel is in but what is the address or how exactly do I get there.

Second question is whether that bizarre Saturday afternoon disco in the same area is still open these days? That was a bizarre place but I sort of liked it. Is that still running on Saturdays?

Many thanks for any help anyone can offer.

Cheers.

BB[/QUOTE]1. Some time ago I've posted the address, but here it is again: Jalan Mangga Besar VIII number 21. Any cabby would know where Hotel Travel is located.

2. Are you referring to Stadium? There are recent postings about the place.

Maybe you should have used the "search" function in this forum. BTW, I "googled" hotel Travel.

[QUOTE=Menteng; 1175791]1. Some time ago I've posted the address, but here it is again: Jalan Mangga Besar VIII number 21. Any cabby would know where Hotel Travel is located.

2. Are you referring to Stadium? There are recent postings about the place.

Maybe you should have used the "search" function in this forum. BTW, I "googled" hotel Travel.[/QUOTE]When you come from Jl Hayam Wurk / Gajah Mada end driving on Jalan Mangga Besar with Lokasari shopping centre on left hand side always remember it is the second street back from the overhead railway bridge. Turn right into jl Mangga Besar No. 8. If you go past the overhead bridge you have gone too far.

I think he is talking about TC's but unfortunately for some ithas been closed for quite some time now.

It was raided by police and shut down for good. Either that or milles disco which is right beside it.

Thanks for the address, I really appreciate it.

Yes thats right TC's (Town and Country or something). That place was totally bizarre. Too bad they closed it down.

Thanks again.

BB

[QUOTE=MrBill1963;1175674]In 15 years I've had my card cloned twice.[/QUOTE]Two years back my business associate, traveling with me had his backup / emergency CC posted on the internet. It was locked in the safety box, along with his travel documents, etc. And we were at the Shangrila Hotel! I know the Singapore hotel management and relayed a complaint. It was obviously an inside job.

So I had one night 'on my own' in Jakarta.

I've visited Jakarta before and visited Alexis and Malioboro. I had coordinates for Hotel Classic and Travelers as a back up, but was looking for a 'pick up' experience. Comments from Jakarta based folks discouraged me from going to the Jayakarta, and it was a toss-up between 30 and BATS. A great price on the rooms at Le Meridien put me there.

I arrived at Jakarta at night on AirAsia and had a heckuva time getting a taxi at terminal 3. I arrived at Le Meridian about 10, had supper and ventured into Tiga Puluh somewhere before 11:30. Going to the club, I followed a pair of women with absolutely spectacular legs and great figures, who disappointed me by getting on the 'up' elevator. Oh well!

I was a little surprised by the small crowd (this was Saturday night) but thought I would give it an hour to liven up before I bailed. The club has a large stage with small tables and a little bit of dancing area on the perimeter. The band was playing music from my youth, but playing well. Within minutes people started coming in – yes, many female people. Good looking female people. The game was on.

A group of 4 women came in and sat two tables from me. All of them were good looking. 8s at least. One in particular caught my eye. Very nice shape, jeans that were painted on her legs and butt, and a spaghetti-strap top that showed nice boobs. I've been in Asia too long to be expecting that the boobs were anything but a product of a push-up bra.

Anyway, the 4 wanitas were fooling around with some questionnaire from the bar and not paying much attention to me. I asked the waitress to offer the girls a drink on me. The night took off from there.

There was a series of one-by-one chats, while the girls sorted out who I was interested in. I was fairly set on Ms F, the girl with the spaghetti-strap top, but was having a great time with all of them. Ms F is in her late 20s, I found out later, but she could have said 23 and I would have believed her. After a bit Ms F said she had to get one of the other girls in a taxi, blah blah, and would be back shortly. Ok.

I amused myself by dancing with the remaining two, one at a time and both together. One of them was a smoking hot dancer and I found myself hoping that Ms F might not return. At that moment, of course, she appeared like a genii from the bottle. We said our good-nights and headed upstairs.

Did I mention that Ms F has excellent English among her other charms? She was yakking away up to the room and says she likes Trivial Pursuit and other word games. I'm fine with it all, I'm well educated, we have all night, and I propose interesting prizes for the winner.

I wasn't even in her league. Riga is the capitol of Latvia. Who knew? She was a gracious winner, promptly hopped into the shower, and f*ked me silly 3 times during the remainder of the night and into the next morning. She likes touching and being touched. I like her touch.

Money was never discussed, ever, but I put some cash in her purse the next morning while she was in the shower. Enough so she will answer her phone when I'm in Jakarta next time.

One last time I was wrong. The boobs were not a product of a push up bra. A very, very nice set of knockers!

Tiga Puluh requires you to have a game. I saw several guys sitting alone nursing their drinks. I saw pairs of women obviously on the game. I bought some drinks, had a lot of fun, and met a lady I hope to see again. Jakarta never disappoints.

I have read the many methods of getting a lay in Jakarta. Starting at the high end. 1 million plus CJ's SYT's, along through the various soap shops at the half million bracket, and then the students who are more than happy with 250, 000.

There is however, those out there who may not be the drop dead gorgeous type, and are happy with a dinner date, before returning to your room and giving everything they have got to receive; and give you a good time. These are to be found in the various dating forums. My latest success is DateInAsia which is free of any charge.

I signed up two weeks ago, I kept my profile basic and admitted being married so I was clearly not looking for a wife. Within days the enquiries came flooding to my in-box, some of their profiles were from marriage seekers, so I replied that I was not suitable for them. Others clearly showed interest to become friends and 'show me around the town'.

The first few mails are kept as information on where I came from and my likes and dislikes. Once they are comfortable, you offer the meet for coffee or dinner date, allowing them to choose the place.

I have 4 dates planned. 2 this weekend and the other 2 for evenings during the week. I have potentially 4 or 5 more who are in the stages of releasing their personal emails and phone numbers.

Last night was the first date, she was a widower with a 7 year old kid, she took me to restaurant in Melawai followed by a club, before coming back to my place for the evening romp. I made the point to leave hints but never actually made a direct request for her to return to my room. Once at my place she proceeded to shower and jump into my bed for a wonderful pre-sleep session. This morning she was eager for a second round to celebrate my morning glory. She even ironed my shirt before she left this morning, No mention of money was ever discussed.

My second date is tonight, where she has already hinted to me that she is curious about foreigners. I guess that means its another wonderful night on the way.

So don't just think about the formal outlets, play the field and you can save your wallet and find the babes with much more enthusiasm.

PQ Out

The interactive [b][i]Jakarta Monger Map [/i][/b]on Google Maps is now ready for use: [b]

[url=http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=203117349039894693981.0004a343aac9183165750&z=12]Jakarta Monger Map[/url]

[/b]As of today, 16 July 2011, only the hotspots in the Block M area are marked (since my knowledge of the Jakarta scene is very limited) plus a few SPAs added by Menteng, who graciuosly agreed to do a test ride. There are frequent requests in the forum regarding the location of certain venues, and there are repeated responses with detailed road directions. I think it might be good to also add a placemark when giving a location response: the advantage of the map is that the information in placemarke can be changed at any time, thus the map can always be updated.

The map is open for editing for the account [b]Jakarta.Monger[/b], which is a [i]gmail [/i]account. Login instructions as well as instructions on how to do things is included in the attached PDF files.

With the [i]Jakarta.Monger [/i]account you can navigate freely between [i]Google Maps, Google Photos [/i]and [i]Google Mail. [/i]To Google Photos you can upload pictures of e. g. the exterior of a venue, like the entrance (for easier location); pictures that can be used in the description in the map. From Google Mail you should send a message to the owner, Barri.ISG, when you have made an update. The reason for this is that I can then take a back-up.

Creating a placemark in the map and adding a photo is pretty straight forward and intuitive, but nevertheless I have written a comprehensive maintenance manual (the attached PDFs). Unfortunately, due to the size limitations for uploading PDFs, the document had to be split in two parts. The latest revision will always reside at the Jakarta.Monger gmail account.

Some discipline and structure is required for the Jakarta Monger Map:[list]
[*]Only add a placemark if you are (almost) 100% certain of the location.
[*]Give the placemark a name that starts with the area, e. g. South, North, Kota etc.
[*]Enter as much details as possible about the venue in the description field.
[*]Sign the description field with your ISG handle and date (month + year will do)
[*]Add if applicable a reference to a Jakarta Thread post number.
[*]Follow the legend, i. e. the colour code, which is found at the top left in the map and also in the maintenance manual[/list][b][i]Legend[/i][/b][list=1]
[*]Blue pin – Spa and massage with HJ / BJ.
[*]Blue pin with dot – Spa and massage with FS.
[*]Gren pin – Bar with FL / WG.
[*]Gren pin with dot– Bar with ST rooms.
[*]Yellow pin – Disco with FL / WG.
[*]Salmon pink pin – Fishbowl (take out only)
[*]Salmon pink pin with dot – Fishbowl with ST rooms.
[*]Hot pink – ST hotel: Bring your own girl.
[*]Hot pink pin with dot – ST hotel where girls will be brought to you.
[*]Violet pin with dot – Fleapit / local brothel.
[*]Aqua pin – Not verified venue: till now no reports from the place.
[*]Red warning sign – Landmark.
[*]Violet line – Street walker area[/list]
Please enjoy the map in a responsible way!

[i]Barri[/i]

[QUOTE=Pro Quest; 1177007]I have read the many methods of getting a lay in Jakarta. Starting at the high end. 1 million plus CJ's SYT's, along through the various soap shops at the half million bracket, and then the students who are more than happy with 250, 000.

There is however, those out there who may not be the drop dead gorgeous type, and are happy with a dinner date, before returning to your room and giving everything they have got to receive; and give you a good time. These are to be found in the various dating forums. My latest success is DateInAsia which is free of any charge.

I signed up two weeks ago, I kept my profile basic and admitted being married so I was clearly not looking for a wife. Within days the enquiries came flooding to my in-box, some of their profiles were from marriage seekers, so I replied that I was not suitable for them. Others clearly showed interest to become friends and 'show me around the town'.

The first few mails are kept as information on where I came from and my likes and dislikes. Once they are comfortable, you offer the meet for coffee or dinner date, allowing them to choose the place.

I have 4 dates planned. 2 this weekend and the other 2 for evenings during the week. I have potentially 4 or 5 more who are in the stages of releasing their personal emails and phone numbers.

Last night was the first date, she was a widower with a 7 year old kid, she took me to restaurant in Melawai followed by a club, before coming back to my place for the evening romp. I made the point to leave hints but never actually made a direct request for her to return to my room. Once at my place she proceeded to shower and jump into my bed for a wonderful pre-sleep session. This morning she was eager for a second round to celebrate my morning glory. She even ironed my shirt before she left this morning, No mention of money was ever discussed.

My second date is tonight, where she has already hinted to me that she is curious about foreigners. I guess that means its another wonderful night on the way.

So don't just think about the formal outlets, play the field and you can save your wallet and find the babes with much more enthusiasm.

PQ Out[/QUOTE]Yep, been down this route for years and have developed a few long-term relationships where we just have a good time together. Good sex, nice night out, and all that this entails. Fits a lot better into my work schedule (I actually need to get up in the morning and go to work) than cruising the bars late at night. But on the odd occassion can also do the bars for variety.

Tried the theme rooms in the Sparks hotel. Pretty fun in a weird kind of way. Not a lot of girls to choose from when I went there, but.

Some nice-looking ones all the same. It costs something like 790. 000. Kind of steep. But they have a bunch of different themes and the

Girls wear outfits accordingly: classroom, office, and some weirder ones like brain scan. Sparks hotel is good stuff, generally, I think, at.

Least for a couple nights if you want to get into some trouble and don't mind the noise from the club, which goes on and on. But the

Pool is nice. The club is funky. The whole place just has this vibe of anything goes.

[QUOTE=Pro Quest; 1177007]I have read the many methods of getting a lay in Jakarta. Starting at the high end. 1 million plus CJ's SYT's, along through the various soap shops at the half million bracket, and then the students who are more than happy with 250, 000.

There is however, those out there who may not be the drop dead gorgeous type, and are happy with a dinner date, before returning to your room and giving everything they have got to receive; and give you a good time. These are to be found in the various dating forums. My latest success is DateInAsia which is free of any charge.

I signed up two weeks ago, I kept my profile basic and admitted being married so I was clearly not looking for a wife. Within days the enquiries came flooding to my in-box, some of their profiles were from marriage seekers, so I replied that I was not suitable for them. Others clearly showed interest to become friends and 'show me around the town'.

The first few mails are kept as information on where I came from and my likes and dislikes. Once they are comfortable, you offer the meet for coffee or dinner date, allowing them to choose the place.

I have 4 dates planned. 2 this weekend and the other 2 for evenings during the week. I have potentially 4 or 5 more who are in the stages of releasing their personal emails and phone numbers.

Last night was the first date, she was a widower with a 7 year old kid, she took me to restaurant in Melawai followed by a club, before coming back to my place for the evening romp. I made the point to leave hints but never actually made a direct request for her to return to my room. Once at my place she proceeded to shower and jump into my bed for a wonderful pre-sleep session. This morning she was eager for a second round to celebrate my morning glory. She even ironed my shirt before she left this morning, No mention of money was ever discussed.

My second date is tonight, where she has already hinted to me that she is curious about foreigners. I guess that means its another wonderful night on the way.

So don't just think about the formal outlets, play the field and you can save your wallet and find the babes with much more enthusiasm.

PQ Out[/QUOTE]Students, huh? How do you meet the students?

[QUOTE=Sgloming; 1177722]Tried the theme rooms in the Sparks hotel. Pretty fun in a weird kind of way. Not a lot of girls to choose from when I went there, but.

Some nice-looking ones all the same. It costs something like 790. 000. Kind of steep. But they have a bunch of different themes and the

Girls wear outfits accordingly: classroom, office, and some weirder ones like brain scan. Sparks hotel is good stuff, generally, I think, at.

Least for a couple nights if you want to get into some trouble and don't mind the noise from the club, which goes on and on. But the

Pool is nice. The club is funky. The whole place just has this vibe of anything goes.[/QUOTE]Sparks Hotel ROCKS! I love the place as its nice and handy to HT and the Big House plus also Jl Mangga Besar really comes alive at night time.

[QUOTE=Sgloming;1177723]Students, huh? How do you meet the students?[/QUOTE]They are everywhere and once you tune into them they will drag all of their m8s along for the ride as Dorman has proven to us.

Attached is a photo of one I met at TG and introduced her to my m8 but he passed on as he had just finished a all day session at HT.

I thought she was 20 but it turns out she is a horny 18.

Hey guys,

As usual, some excellent information being shared here. I thought I'd add my own little bit to the pile (even though it's nothing new).

Went to Hotel Classic twice last week (once on Wednesday and once on Sunday, both at around 4pm). The Wednesday session was actually pretty disappointing; both girls gave the most unenthusiastic and unskilled BJs I've ever had. The sex was average as well. I didn't do my due diligence as I was selecting my mates, so it's my own fault.

Damage:

400k to bar.

100k tips (they asked for 100k each)

[U]100k[/U] Drinks.

600k.

Sunday was much better. I told the pimpette that I wanted two slim girls with big breasts and that they needed to be very good at BJs. She certainly delivered. She brought over the first one, and I started drooling a little bit. We sat and talked for a bit (I speak VERY little Indo, but we made do) , then I asked about the second girl. She pointed to a very unattractive girl sitting on the bench and said 'my friend'? I said 'Hell no, ' and called the pimpette back over. I told her to get a second girl who was just like the first. Well, she brought out a somewhat reasonable facsimile and downstairs we went. Turns out the first girl (the stunner) was pretty drunk, but in a fun way. The not-so-stunner was an excellent performer and, as promised, both girls gave excellent suckage.

Damage:

400k to bar.

100k tips.

[U]100k[/U] Drinks.

600k.

Same damage in each case, but a vastly different experience, simply because I added the BJ criterion to my list. Specificity is the order of the day, it would appear.

BCrud

Also, I was wondering if I might be able to re-post my question from a couple of weeks back:

Is there any way to get Kamagra jelly in Jakarta? I had toyed with the idea of bringing some with me from Thailand, but I chickened out, since I didn't want to get into any sticky situations (aside from the kind you find at Hotel Classic, anyway).

If not Kamagra, does anyone have a good substitute? I don't suffer from ED, but I must say I certainly benefit from ED drugs!

Any info would be greatly appreciated!

BCrud

[QUOTE=KangK; 1177921]They are everywhere and once you tune into them they will drag all of their m8s along for the ride as Dorman has proven to us.

Attached is a photo of one I met at TG and introduced her to my m8 but he passed on as he had just finished a all day session at HT.

I thought she was 20 but it turns out she is a horny 18.[/QUOTE]I thought I was in the photo section but no problemo giving some work for Jackson to clean up my mess, not intentional.

[QUOTE=Billycrudup221; 1177959]If not Kamagra, does anyone have a good substitute? I don't suffer from ED, but I must say I certainly benefit from ED drugs!

Any info would be greatly appreciated!

BCrud[/QUOTE]Viagra, Cialis and Levitra are available over the counter at Apoteks (pharmacies) certainly in the big cities of Indonesia. The best and most reliable chain of Apoteks is Kimia Farma, it's government owned and as far as I have been able to work out, does not stock pirated medications. Look for the big blue and orange signs. Prices are similar to anywhere in the world for these drugs as they are the real deal. Street vendors also sell them but so cheaply they can only be knock-offs.

As for local stuff, there are "jamu" stands and shops throughout Indonesia. Two high profile chains are Air Mancur and Nyonya Mynheer. They have locally produced stay hard capsules for a couple of dollars for a packet of two. Two brands I have tried are Top Sex, and Black Ant. I suspect they contain the active ingredient of Viagra, but not the full dose, as well as other herbal stuff. Most of the time they work, but I think they fill the caps by hand, so dosage is all over the place.

As for bringing Kamagra from Thailand, next time just bring as many as you think you need. I am Bangkok based but come to Indonesia two weeks out of four, and I always bring a box or two for friends there. Indo Customs have taken no interest in them at all, probably because there is nothing illegal about bringing them in.

[QUOTE=Dazednconfused; 1178262]Viagra, Cialis and Levitra are available over the counter at Apoteks (pharmacies) certainly in the big cities of Indonesia. The best and most reliable chain of Apoteks is Kimia Farma, it's government owned and as far as I have been able to work out, does not stock pirated medications. Look for the big blue and orange signs. Prices are similar to anywhere in the world for these drugs as they are the real deal. Street vendors also sell them but so cheaply they can only be knock-offs.

As for local stuff, there are "jamu" stands and shops throughout Indonesia. Two high profile chains are Air Mancur and Nyonya Mynheer. They have locally produced stay hard capsules for a couple of dollars for a packet of two. Two brands I have tried are Top Sex, and Black Ant. I suspect they contain the active ingredient of Viagra, but not the full dose, as well as other herbal stuff. Most of the time they work, but I think they fill the caps by hand, so dosage is all over the place.

As for bringing Kamagra from Thailand, next time just bring as many as you think you need. I am Bangkok based but come to Indonesia two weeks out of four, and I always bring a box or two for friends there. Indo Customs have taken no interest in them at all, probably because there is nothing illegal about bringing them in.[/QUOTE]Thanks so much, DnC! That's great information. I'm sure I've seen a Kimia Farma somewhere around here, so life is good. Just in time too, as I had my last packet of the jelly last night!

[QUOTE=KangK; 1171534]A female friend of mine is working in one of the karaoke clubs in Little Tokyo behind LT6 and told me I should check the place out as there are heaps of hot chicks there. I tried a couple of times in the 90's to try these clubs but was knocked back either by the satpams or the girls saying that if the Japanese or korean guy sees the girl with a bule she will be ostracised and won't get any more patrons. Over the many years here in Indo I have seen many many absolute stunners walking in or out of these clubs. Anyway on Tuesday night before catching my plane back to work I ventured forth and visited the club she is working in and was very pleasantly surprised.

Walked in and was greeted by a very doable mamasan who instructed me to sit down while she called the 60 girls down for the "Parade". Unfortunately the room can only fit about 40 of them so the other 20 stayed upstairs but I was certainly feeling pretty damned good inspecting the wares on offer. I must admit I have never been a fan of karaoke bars but I will definately be going back to this one club as there were 4-6 big full round breasted ceweks who were above average and the same again absolute stunners. Th initial outlay is not cheap but its certainly a good way to meet some good quality pussy get their numbers and meet them off site. 250 for the room. 180 for one girl for 3 hours and 30k for a beer. I played the gentleman and took my female friend and went to the room and got a BJ. There are no bedrooms only karaoke rooms. Next time I plan on getting 2-3 girls getting their numbers and employ them directly. The trick is look for a club without a Korean or Japanese name.[/QUOTE]Decided to tell my friend who works there to start taking photos of her friends / work colleagues then send me their photos and costs via mms but then I remembered why I stopped frequenting karaoke bars because most of the hot ones ask for 1-2 jta ST. Too many Japanese and Koreans willing to pay these amounts. I have got a couple of her friends for 700 & 800k but it still is too much.

[QUOTE=TimTimGuy; 1176914]So I had one night 'on my own' in Jakarta.

I arrived at Jakarta at night on AirAsia and had a heckuva time getting a taxi at terminal 3. I arrived at Le Meridian about 10, had supper and ventured into Tiga Puluh somewhere before 11:30. Going to the club, I followed a pair of women with absolutely spectacular legs and great figures, who disappointed me by getting on the 'up' elevator. Oh well![/QUOTE]I'm surprised that you didn't follow the legs and persuade them to stay. Although it does seem that you managed pretty well after that. It's been a while since I've been to Tiga Puluh, although this used to be the place for many happy hunting expeditions. Memories.

[QUOTE=Menteng; 1175791]1. Some time ago I've posted the address, but here it is again: Jalan Mangga Besar VIII number 21. Any cabby would know where Hotel Travel is located.

2. Are you referring to Stadium? There are recent postings about the place.

Maybe you should have used the "search" function in this forum. BTW, I "googled" hotel Travel.[/QUOTE]Bro,

There seems to be a number of people too lazy to do their own homework of late. Have you been kidnapped by the ladies over in Colombia or might we see your face sometime in the foreseeable future?

[QUOTE=KL Guy;1175463]Now I realised why Fisherman is back active in the forum but really surprised at the path he has taken! To each his own they say! All the best in your endeavors Fish![/QUOTE]Hi Bro,

I read your posts. I have my own set of issues with him and it seems I have kept myself more restrained than you. It is a bit rich him calling other people cheapskate. I have also discovered what he has said regarding me to other people but have refrained from mentioning it here. Well it's "caveat emptor" to his clients and good luck. How have you been bro? It's been a while since I heard any news from you.

MD II

[QUOTE=Master Diver II;1178899]I'm surprised that you didn't follow the legs and persuade them to stay. Although it does seem that you managed pretty well after that. It's been a while since I've been to Tiga Puluh, although this used to be the place for many happy hunting expeditions. Memories.[/QUOTE]"Managed pretty well" is a nice compliment and a definite understatement about Ms F. Legs to die for! I really wish to be in Jakarta tonight! TTG

This was we need more in the forums. Too bad there wasn't a like button or + button. Then these forums wouldn't be filled w / where is where is that! Easy to search! Thanks.

[QUOTE=Barri; 1177181]The interactive [b][i]Jakarta Monger Map [/i][/b]on Google Maps is now ready for use: [b]

[url=http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=203117349039894693981.0004a343aac9183165750&z=12]Jakarta Monger Map[/url]

[/b]As of today. 16 July 2011, only the hotspots in the Block M area are marked (since my knowledge of the Jakarta scene is very limited) plus a few SPAs added by Menteng, who graciuosly agreed to do a test ride. There are frequent requests in the forum regarding the location of certain venues, and there are repeated responses with detailed road directions. I think it might be good to also add a placemark when giving a location response: the advantage of the map is that the information in placemarke can be changed at any time, thus the map can always be updated.

The map is open for editing for the account [b]Jakarta. Monger[/b], which is a [i]gmail [/i]account. Login instructions as well as instructions on how to do things is included in the attached PDF files.

With the [i]Jakarta. Monger [/i]account you can navigate freely between [i]Google Maps, Google Photos [/i]and [i]Google Mail. [/i]To Google Photos you can upload pictures of e. G. The exterior of a venue, like the entrance (for easier location) ; pictures that can be used in the description in the map. From Google Mail you should send a message to the owner, Barri. ISG, when you have made an update. The reason for this is that I can then take a back-up.

Creating a placemark in the map and adding a photo is pretty straight forward and intuitive, but nevertheless I have written a comprehensive maintenance manual (the attached PDFs). Unfortunately, due to the size limitations for uploading PDFs, the document had to be split in two parts. The latest revision will always reside at the Jakarta. Monger gmail account.

Some discipline and structure is required for the Jakarta Monger Map:[list]
[*]Only add a placemark if you are (almost) 100% certain of the location.
[*]Give the placemark a name that starts with the area, e. G. South, North, Kota etc.
[*]Enter as much details as possible about the venue in the description field.
[*]Sign the description field with your ISG handle and date (month + year will do)
[*]Add if applicable a reference to a Jakarta Thread post number.
[*]Follow the legend, I. E. The colour code, which is found at the top left in the map and also in the maintenance manual[/list][b][i]Legend[/i][/b][list=1]
[*]Blue pin – Spa and massage with HJ / BJ.
[*]Blue pin with dot – Spa and massage with FS.
[*]Gren pin – Bar with FL / WG.
[*]Gren pin with dot– Bar with ST rooms.
[*]Yellow pin – Disco with FL / WG.
[*]Salmon pink pin – Fishbowl (take out only)
[*]Salmon pink pin with dot – Fishbowl with ST rooms.
[*]Hot pink – ST hotel: Bring your own girl.
[*]Hot pink pin with dot – ST hotel where girls will be brought to you.
[*]Violet pin with dot – Fleapit / local brothel.
[*]Aqua pin – Not verified venue: till now no reports from the place.
[*]Red warning sign – Landmark.
[*]Violet line – Street walker area[/list]
Please enjoy the map in a responsible way!

[i]Barri[/i][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Master Diver II;1178899]It's been a while since I've been to Tiga Puluh, although this used to be the place for many happy hunting expeditions. Memories.[/QUOTE]Early 2000's Tiga Puluh was great. Now, not so much. Unfortunately, the band at Tiga Puluh right now isn't very good. Put that together with the small crowds these days and it's pretty dire there. Ever since they renovated that place, it's been dead. That being said, I went there the other night and had a pretty good time. It was a special salsa night and fairly entertaining. There were a couple of stunners there as well!

So probably most of you know about this place already, but if you're looking for a bar to have a drink before or after some mongering, I definitely recommend Jaya Pub. The oldest pub in jakarta is what they say, by which I guess they mean the oldest western-style place to drink in Jakarta. The place is classic, friendly, and very easy to be in. I don't think there are any professionals there-or at least there weren't when I was there, but still, a great place just to chill.

And while I'm in the Menteng area, what's the story with The Pitstop? I was there early in the week, and it wasn't so active, but it seemed like it got pretty active on weekends. And there definitely seemed to be some pros about.

Fasting starts on Saturday morning so I imagine the bars will be shut from Friday night onwards for a few days, what's the score however on Thursday? Is it business as usual or early shut down? I know I should remember but every year I forget and, like the night before Idul Adha, invariably I get caught out.

[QUOTE=Dorman;1180547]Fasting starts on Saturday morning[/QUOTE]Saturday already? Sure?

I thought Monday 1st August.

Cheers!

[QUOTE=Sgloming; 1180514]So probably most of you know about this place already, but if you're looking for a bar to have a drink before or after some mongering, I definitely recommend Jaya Pub. The oldest pub in jakarta is what they say, by which I guess they mean the oldest western-style place to drink in Jakarta. The place is classic, friendly, and very easy to be in. I don't think there are any professionals there-or at least there weren't when I was there, but still, a great place just to chill.

And while I'm in the Menteng area, what's the story with The Pitstop? I was there early in the week, and it wasn't so active, but it seemed like it got pretty active on weekends. And there definitely seemed to be some pros about.[/QUOTE]I'm surprised that Jaya Pub still exists. Is it still located behind the Jaya building?

Maybe those who stayed at Sari San Pacific hotel recently can tell more about Pitstop?

[QUOTE=Fordmustang;1179435]--- Too bad there wasn't a like button or + button. ---[/QUOTE]Something that should be proposed to Google.com, perhaps? The possibility to do an internal search on loaded map? Please do!

By the way, there has been some good additions lately, but the area where the venue is located has not been stated as part of the landmark name, so I can't do sorting the way I intended. Would it be better just to sort everything alphabetically?

/Barri

[QUOTE=Ekspat; 1180556]Saturday already? Sure?

I thought Monday 1st August.

Cheers![/QUOTE]Ramadhan starts on the 1st August tentavely as it is actually determined by the start of the new moon.

And the day before Ramadan is the absolute worst day of all. July 31 everything will be closed.

I stand corrected, the fasting starts on Monday, shut down begins Sunday, the last hurrah ends on Saturday night then.

No surprise if Hotel Travel, Hotel Klassik, upmarket spas like Malioboro and Hotel Alexis, Blok M bars, and hotel bars will start operating again on Tue, 2 Aug until the day before Idul Eid.

Spent a few nights in Jakarta. Slept in Mercure Kota (formerly Mercure Rekso) as usual.

Went to Hotel Travel on three successive nights & ordered two girls. Damage 450000 Rps. All three nights the couple was in effect chosen by the mamasan and consisted of a skinny girl and a rather chubby one . But good figure as well. Making a good couple. I enjoyed being with two girls as it soehow seems to take the tension of being with a no-bahasa foreigner from them. In all three the skinny one was the most active.

I think I prefer Hotel Travel to Hotel Classic. In my opinion there is nothing wrong with the quality of the girls, and the place is less overwhelming without mandatory drinks etcetera. More relaxing.

'don't be sad that it's over, be happy it happened. ' i read those wise words on the back of a guy's t-shirt at hotel classic, while looking over his shoulder at four naked indonesian girls simulating sex on stage. i tried to accept that philosophy, but it wasn't easy. that was the second of three nights on my brief trip to jakarta in april, and i was worse on the morning of my departure; at the airport i struggled with the idea of changing my flight to hong kong for the next day. i didn't, and ultimately was satisfied that i didn't (the saunas of macau and the pleasures of pattaya, thailand awaited) , but i missed jakarta then and do now.

after a mid-afternoon flight arrival my taxi got me to mangga besar without too much traffic problems. i had tried to get a room at sparks at the indotel hotel reservation desk at the baggage claim, attracted by the good value (compared to the internet rates i had seen) , but they were sold out. instead, i had the cabbie drop me at the peninsula. i'm glad i looked at some rooms, since despite the decent price (r330, 000) , the rooms were shabby and depressing. the astika just a few meters away was a much better choice at r340, 000 for a deluxe room, and i was settled in by 4:00. the best part about the astika was that i was just a short walk from the hotel travel, around the corner on mangga besar 8.

in a matter of five minutes i reached hotel travel. the greeters graciously held the door of the lounge open for me, and i took my number disc from the desk girls. the lounge inside was not yet crowded with guests, but the four coves of couches along the far wall brimmed with girls. as soon as i sat at a table a mamasan came over and before i had time to order a drink had guided little yati to my table. what i came for was the two-girl special for r450, 000 for 90 minutes, so i asked her to call over a friend, another petite cutie, itsa. a little chatting with the help of my bahasa vocabulary cheat-sheet warmed things up (especially the page of 'dirty' words for use with hookers) , and we soon headed upstairs to a room. while like most of my threesomes on this jakarta trip the gfe factor was not high (no kissing) , it was a fine start to my trip.

a nice thing about hotel travel is that on the street outside, like all of the mangga besar area, there are a few tented warnings serving up tasty food. i had a nice plate of fried duck and coconut rice and was ready for my next destination, malioboro hotel. in less than ten minutes i was there, and paid my 100, 000 entry. i first checked out the club, uncrowded except for some couples (interesting spot for a date, considering the topless dancers on the corner platforms of the stage). i soon found out where the crowds were downstairs in the main lounge. my impression, except for the presence of scantily dressed dancers on the stage (few girls on stage seemed to go topless) , was of a high school cafeteria with disco lighting. the rectangular lunchroom tables were generally filled with either guys or girls, without lots of mixing, and you had your cliques around the room: the chinese in one corner, latinas in another, indonesian girls along the other two sides.

of course, in the high school cafeteria topless hot girls generally don't go around offering to grind against you for the price of a lady drink. i passed on most girls who came by as i sat at the bar, but one was gorgeous and so i fondled her a bit as she rubbed up against me. worth the r100, 000 only because she was so hot. warmed up, i asked a mamasan about the prices. as expected, the foreign girls were very expensive and just not worth it for me: the chinese were attractive but with my upcoming trip to macau i didn't see the point; though i felt a sense of western hemisphere solidarity with the colombianas and other latinas, they were not stunners worthy of the r1. 7 juta (or so) price tag, just more of a novelty item. even the indonesians didn't seem worth it at around r700, 000 after the great value of hotel travel; they certainly weren't any better looking than the ones i'the seen earlier in the day. so i decided to move on.

but not too far, just across the hallway to the wine lounge. it's a pretentious name for a glorified karaoke hall filled with high school girls (back to high school, again) , but exactly the kind of place i was looking for. i sat on the side of the room with the bar, and a young papasan with pretty good english sat beside me. the girls sat on clusters of couches on the other side of the stage where a high-energy cover band was joined by an audience member channeling elvis and frank sinatra. the papasan (alex?) offered to call some girls over, necessary since they were sitting too far away to get a great view of them. he was in charge of one batch and the two mamasans had their own, each group identifiable by a particular style of dress. i'the say the girls here were on par with the indonesians in the other lounge, but a vastly better value at only r350, 000.

i looked on ruefully as guys at nearby couches chose cute girls from the mamasan's lineups to sit with them, so i finally asked the guy to send over a few girls. i quickly chose cindy, an absolutely tiny girl with an awkwardly cute face and braces (or were they teeth that needed braces, i forget) : not beautiful, but adorable. as usual, my strategy of going for the smiley-est girl paid off. as we waited in the lounge for a room to become available, she draped herself over me and flirted with me using her broken english. in the room i drooled as i watched this innocent cutie strip down to black lacy bra and panties. soon the gfe i expected morphed into a wild session, belying her barely-legal appearance. since she was so tiny. a true 'super-spinner'. i could manipulate her in plenty of fun positions, like fucking her standing up while she clung to me with her arms around my neck and her legs around my waist.

i recovered by spending some time listening to the wine lounge cover band, but eventually felt the urge again and realized that with closing time approaching i had to get a session in. i asked one of the mamasans to see a lineup, and i again went with the tried and true strategy of choosing the friendliest, bubbliest girl, who looked great in tight jean shorts. it turned out that my strategy was not so foolproof. as soon as i chose her she looked reluctantly at her friend in the lineup. when she sat beside me on the couch she stiffened up and stared straight ahead, refusing to look at me. not even my pidgin bahasa indonesia did the trick! this called for an emergency intervention, so i summoned alex from the next couch over where he was consulting with a punter. i explained the problem of this dramatically bad chemistry (which i attributed to bule-phobia) , and asked if there a way out, despite the fact that the mamasan had already filled out the slip for the girl.

what i specifically asked was whether i could dump this girl and take cindy again? to my relief he said yes; it was an even bigger relief to the girl next to me, who jumped up and made record time out of there as soon as she learned she was off the hook. cindy came right over and resumed her cuddling and caressing. on our return to the bedroom we resumed some more exciting activities. we closed down the place; malioboro had completely cleared out by the time we finished. i later regretted not coming back to see cindy like i promised her, but other venues made their own claim on my time, cash, and energy. no wonder i miss jakarta so much.

Between the late night at Malioboro and my jet lag, I was pretty knocked out and so got a bit of a late start the next day. I wanted to check out the neighborhood, so walked over to Loksari Plaza just across Mangga Besar. I noticed several spas in the building surrounding the mall, but I didn't try any since I had other plans. After lunch at a hole in the wall restaurant (where the owner, and older lady, asked if I needed a girl) , I headed to the famous Kartika massage parlor. It's easy find, at the end of the alley next to the Dutch Bakery. I passed a few similar places, ignoring invitations to come in. Once in Kartika I struggled to adjust to the dim lighting as I was swarmed by just about all 20 women in the house. I felt under siege drinking a Coke at the bar, with ladies in front of me stroking my chest, massaging my shoulders, winking – not exactly hell on earth, but a little overwhelming, especially since my main goal was to survey the scene and weigh my options. The women were ok but not great looking, mostly in their late 20s to 30s, and a little thicker than I prefer in Asian women. Fortunately, the short haired woman who was right in front of me as I sat at the bar, Mia, was probably the cutest and most petite and had a great smile, so I chose her, along with a thicker girl nearby, Esia.

We proceeded upstairs through a dumpy hallway to the room, which was, more of a large bathroom than a bedroom, but that makes practical sense. Right outside the door was a desk with one of the old mamas, which was a bit strange. The girls washed me up real well, and began going through a well choreographed soapy routine. When I say routine I don't mean to say it was mechanical, it was very energetic and the girls had the moves down to a science. The highlight was the patented Kartika 'Hamburger, ' which was more of a hot dog with the weiner between the buns, if I need to paint a picture. A very nice technique and both girls had enough meat on their own buns to make it right. When we moved onto hide the sausage I pumped Esia while she lay her on her stomach in lazy doggy; her butt made a nice cushion. But with all the moves to go through I didn't have time to give the Mia proper attention, so I after the other girl headed downstairs I took another hour just with that cutie.

Mia, who was in her late 20s, was very friendly throughout but things got a little strained with the requests for tips. Even after we got downstairs the other half of the duo found me at the cashier to ask for reimbursement for the condom, which I found very annoying. As was the sticker shock. I knew going up to the room that the price at Kartika had gone up to R350, 000 per hour for each girl, but as I paid the bill I had the feeling that it wasn't really worth it. After some amazing soapy action in Macau I feel this even more strongly. Kartika is probably coasting on its reputation in charging these kinds of prices, since given the so-so looks of the girls and the fantastic value on threesomes to be had at places like Hotel Travel and Hotel Classic, it's not really worth it.

I walked back from Kartika toward my hotel, refueling along the way with some Cobra satay and hoping for it to have some sexual potency, since I had more fun planned for that night. As I was sitting at the warnung chewing snake, I spotted an older Chinese woman trailed by a tall teenie, kind of cute with enough baby fat to make her tasty. She made a point to stop and greet me and ask if I wanted to take her niece back to my hotel. She quoted me R400, 000 for three hours. I was tempted, but Hotel Classic was next on my itinerary, where I could get two girls at the same time for this price, and girls who would likely be cuter, based on my experience at Hotel Travel. So I gave her my hotel room number so she could call me again to arrange things. She did eventually call on a couple of occasions, but both times I had alternative plans. Still, it was great to know that this kind of option was on offer, and it added to the sex-saturated atmosphere of Mangga Besar.

A real plus for Mangga Besar is that it's easy to get to nearby mongering destinations, like Malioboro. With the metro station just a couple of blocks from my hotel, it was also a quick and easy ride to Hotel Classic. I took the train one stop south to the Sawah Besar stop, and from there just walked south a bit and I just made a left onto the first major street, and within a couple of minutes was at Hotel Classic.

I admired Classic's opulent atrium as I rode the elevators up to the Terminal Club. There was much more to admire there: my breath was taken away by what was a seemingly endless line of cuties sitting on couches stretched as far as the eye could see. The frenetic pace of this meat market also made me marvel; I felt like I was on the trading floor of the New York Stock exchange. Mamasans worked the customers to steer them over to the couch of their costume-coordinated honeys: zebra stripes here, a red crew there, evening gowns in the corner. They highlighted choice selections with laser pointers, playing the matchmaker by summoning a girl or two to charm the prospective buyer.

I took in this scene for a while, taking a break to check out the topless dancers on the low stage where a high-energy cover band played later that night. I ignored the lapdance-for-a lady drink girls and returned to make my first selection of the night. One mamasan got hold of me and called over Angela, very sleek and slender but with wavy caramel hair and superlong eyelashes. She had a more sophisticated look than a lot of the young girls there, and a sly and sexy smile. At first that less-innocent look gave me pause, but eventually I was hooked and was ready to choose a partner (always from the same mama-family). I asked if she had a friend and indeed she did. Lita, another Cirebon girl, was essentially her opposite number: chubby, cute in an innocent, vacant sort of way, and as ungainly as Angela was smooth. The classic 'friend of the hottie' that the other guy always gets set up with on the double date. I wanted a good session with Angela though, so I agreed to go ahead with the match. It turned out that the second fiddle was as passive as Angela was passionate, so I was sufficiently occupied to care much. I actually kind of got off on Lita's status as a kind of voyeur as Angela and I 69'the exquisitely and as I guided Angela's slender frame back and forth on top of me, her back against my chest. She had the perfect body for that, my favorite position (I shudder to think of trying it out with her friend). My only real regret about the session was the room design; why they placed a mirror alongside the bed with its bottom edge a couple of feet higher than the sheets I'll never understand, since it made a decent view of the action next to impossible. And this session with Angela was worth the look.

For my second threesome of the night (they go for R400, 000 for the duo for an hour) I looked to the other end of the room. I had passed this corner of couches earlier, set apart from the rest, as I scouted the club. A girl with a kewpie-doll adorable face caught my eye again, so I chose Tonomi and her recommended friend Sophie. Both girls were cute, very short, and baby-fat chubby, with air-head personalities. They reminded me of cartoon characters, and had me both smiling at their bff interactions and rolling my eyes at their tv and mobile phone obsessions. I liked how I could roll them around, but it definitely was not top-caliber sex.

The other session I had that night (sequenced between the two threesomes) was with Resa, and she was probably the main reason for my melancholy and t-shirt philosophizing at the end of the night (see the beginning of my report from Day 1). It will be best to write about her in my report for Day 3, since she was the capstone and highlight of my Jakarta trip.

Late nights and jetlag took their toll, and combined with an outing for souvenir shopping it all made for a late start to my final day in Jakarta. In the late afternoon I headed back to Hotel Travel. A mamasan brought over a cute but serious-looking spinner named Dina. For her partner she called over a friend, Honey, who made for the perfect contrast: tall, with big boobs and a nice, curvy rear. Honey's smile was infectious; her friend not so much, I had to keep reminding her to smile. Why so serious? I don't know, but she did know how to ride me. But I had the most fun fucking Honey as she lay face-down, with that lovely, round ass as a cushion, as Dina caressed my ass.

After a tasty warnung dinner I took the train over to Hotel Classic. The place was rocking, and girls were getting snapped up quickly, which caused me to miss out on having a session with Angela, who said Hi but was on the way to the room with a guy when I saw her. Eager to get started, I took a mamasan's suggestion to select a pair of very young looking girls. This was a case where I should not have gone with the package deal. Nikki, the girl I preferred, was short and baby-fat chubby, and I liked that she looked different from most of the girls at the club, with porcelain-white skin and a Chinese facial appearance. Her Cleopatra eye makeup and a delicious pony tails and straight-bangs haircut also made a big impression. The other girl, Mira, met the requirements of a nice high school girl fantasy, but besides her teenie looks she was otherwise non-descript. She also acted testy and distracted (those damn phones!) in the room, so I got a little BJ action from her but didn't bother to push for more. I had much more fun fucking Nikki. Overall the session confirmed the pattern I had been noticing: the threesomes at these Jakarta clubs, while great value price-wise, didn't really live up to expectations when it came to the girls' performance.

But I was disturbed my something else for much of the night. The night before I had done a session with Resa from Bandung (one hour at R270, 000). The second I saw her that night I made a bee-line for a mamasan to claim her; it was her ever-present smile that did it. Or maybe the sparkle in her eyes, or her tall slender body, the cute birthmark on her face, or her shy laugh and soft voice as we sat on a couch together. Yes, I admit it, I fell in love. Something that did foster a great connection was that she spoke English pretty well, unlike a lot of the girls I met on the trip. In the room she started out shy and then gave it up with abandon. With so much intense kissing, extended pussy-licking and blowjob, and sensual fucking, Resa's combination of sweetness and passion understandably stayed on my mind the next day and cemented my plan to end the trip at Classic.

So when I returned on my last night I looked for her, but without success. After the session with Nikki and Mira I found her mamasan and asked to reserve time with Resa. The mamasan promised, but I waited and waited and waited. My despair grew; I was a sorry sight. The mamasan came over a few times to reassure me that she would send Resa my way, but it looked grim. But finally she appeared. We greeted, and the mamasan sent us on our way. I won't go into much about the session except to say that I stayed in the room with her for four hours, which says it all. They were four of the most intense hours I ever spent with a woman; we even came to tears at one point. Which was the main reason why I could hardly bring myself to leave this city.

The next morning I took a reluctant taxi ride to the airport. The first thing I did when I arrived was to hunt down the Garuda airlines ticket counter, and I took a seat nearby, weighing the pros and cons of changing my ticket to Hong Kong in order to get at least one more day in Jakarta and go back to Classic. In the end I decided against it, and in retrospect that was a good thing, given that I barely had enough time to fit in all the saunas I wanted to check out in Macau. But I didn't completely leave Jakarta behind; when the opportunity arose at one of the saunas, I said 'no thanks' to the Chinese and picked two nice Indonesian girls for a threesome. But it's that one girl from Classic that will be the reason I'll never forget Jakarta.

Continued on the Macau-Sauna Reviews Forum.

Nice three day report. Looks like you made the most of it!

[QUOTE=Barri; 1177181]The interactive [b][i]Jakarta Monger Map [/i][/b]on Google Maps is now ready for use: [b]

[url=http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=203117349039894693981.0004a343aac9183165750&z=12]Jakarta Monger Map[/url]

[/b]As of today. 16 July 2011, only the hotspots in the Block M area are marked (since my knowledge of the Jakarta scene is very limited) plus a few SPAs added by Menteng, who graciuosly agreed to do a test ride. There are frequent requests in the forum regarding the location of certain venues, and there are repeated responses with detailed road directions. I think it might be good to also add a placemark when giving a location response: the advantage of the map is that the information in placemarke can be changed at any time, thus the map can always be updated.

The map is open for editing for the account [b]Jakarta. Monger[/b], which is a [i]gmail [/i]account. Login instructions as well as instructions on how to do things is included in the attached PDF files.

With the [i]Jakarta. Monger [/i]account you can navigate freely between [i]Google Maps, Google Photos [/i]and [i]Google Mail. [/i]To Google Photos you can upload pictures of e. G. The exterior of a venue, like the entrance (for easier location) ; pictures that can be used in the description in the map. From Google Mail you should send a message to the owner, Barri. ISG, when you have made an update. The reason for this is that I can then take a back-up.

Creating a placemark in the map and adding a photo is pretty straight forward and intuitive, but nevertheless I have written a comprehensive maintenance manual (the attached PDFs). Unfortunately, due to the size limitations for uploading PDFs, the document had to be split in two parts. The latest revision will always reside at the Jakarta. Monger gmail account.

Some discipline and structure is required for the Jakarta Monger Map:[list]
[*]Only add a placemark if you are (almost) 100% certain of the location.
[*]Give the placemark a name that starts with the area, e. G. South, North, Kota etc.
[*]Enter as much details as possible about the venue in the description field.
[*]Sign the description field with your ISG handle and date (month + year will do)
[*]Add if applicable a reference to a Jakarta Thread post number.
[*]Follow the legend, I. E. The colour code, which is found at the top left in the map and also in the maintenance manual[/list][b][i]Legend[/i][/b][list=1]
[*]Blue pin – Spa and massage with HJ / BJ.
[*]Blue pin with dot – Spa and massage with FS.
[*]Gren pin – Bar with FL / WG.
[*]Gren pin with dot– Bar with ST rooms.
[*]Yellow pin – Disco with FL / WG.
[*]Salmon pink pin – Fishbowl (take out only)
[*]Salmon pink pin with dot – Fishbowl with ST rooms.
[*]Hot pink – ST hotel: Bring your own girl.
[*]Hot pink pin with dot – ST hotel where girls will be brought to you.
[*]Violet pin with dot – Fleapit / local brothel.
[*]Aqua pin – Not verified venue: till now no reports from the place.
[*]Red warning sign – Landmark.
[*]Violet line – Street walker area[/list]
Please enjoy the map in a responsible way!

[i]Barri[/i][/QUOTE]Marvellous effort here, bro. Endless praise for your work. Wonder how many of these places are still alive during the coming Ramadan.

Thank you very much indeed for your excellent reports.

I'll be following your steps the opposite way, China, Macau, Hong Kong, Angeles City and Jakarta.

Although I've been there before I do believe I will learn something more from your fine reports.

Thank you Sir and have a good time.

"Jakarta inundated with proliferating ills"

[url]http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2011/04/17/jakarta-inundated-with-proliferating-ills.html[/url]

Coincidentally, I saw this article in the paper version of the J. Post as I was leaving Jakarta. For an investigative report it's a pretty decent summary and mongering map of the city. I bet the reporters had a great time doing the research!

Fasting starts tonight so today is the last day of daytime sex for most of us eventhough I've already been puasa for the last 8 days after being cast back into the dark depths of the wild jungle. Good time to get professional GF's at a cheap price!

As I will be in Jakarta during Ramadan, I expect the day to be less eventful. I am thinking of going out of Jakarta on a day-trip for some sight-seeing. Set off morning and return to the city in the evening.

Any bros have any suggestion?

Hi Guys,

Just returned from a visit to Jakarta. But this time around the prices seems to have increased, most girls at My Bar started at 1M IDR whereas in the past they started at 500, 000 IDR.

Of course I negotiated when I was in the mood for it but can't really say what the reason is for this price increase.

Also there wasn't as much variety as I have seen before, but I guess it's hit and miss sometimes. Did see a few regular My Bar ladies who have been around for years and some new faces.

[QUOTE=KangK;1182282]Fasting starts tonight so today is the last day of daytime sex for most of us eventhough I've already been puasa for the last 8 days after being cast back into the dark depths of the wild jungle. Good time to get professional GF's at a cheap price![/QUOTE]Tomorrow morning I.

Meant

[QUOTE=KangK; 1182436]Tomorrow morning I.

Meant[/QUOTE]It's ok KangK,

Many option can be get during the fasting month. Either affordable or not, that's the question.

Br,

Fish

[QUOTE=Fisherman;1182520]Many option can be get during the fasting month.[/QUOTE]True. The following places will be open during fasting month.

Malioboro.

Alexis.

Hotel Classic

Hotel Travel

I would call the 275k for local girls at Classic and Travel to be quite affordable. Malio has locals for 350k.

Most of us who live in Jakarta have a phone full of numbers where we can call the girls to come to our place whenever we want. Fasting month is the month they need money more than any other so they are more than happy to come to visit.

[QUOTE=Smoothy; 1182540]True. The following places will be open during fasting month.

Malioboro.

Alexis.

Hotel Classic

Hotel Travel

I would call the 275k for local girls at Classic and Travel to be quite affordable. Malio has locals for 350k.

Most of us who live in Jakarta have a phone full of numbers where we can call the girls to come to our place whenever we want. Fasting month is the month they need money more than any other so they are more than happy to come to visit.[/QUOTE]Damn, I wish P-Jay was open.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1182540]I would call the 275k for local girls at Classic and Travel to be quite affordable. Malio has locals for 350k.[/QUOTE]Thought I'd correct you about Travel: it's 300k, not 275k like Classic. To be frank, I thought Classic was more bang more buck and had even better quality and quantity.

Still, nothing beats P-Jay.

Firstly to those fasting happy fasting & now to my good friend MDII;

I've also heard of the remarks made not only about you but others including me but like you let's not bother to discuss this over an open forum. ! I've had a turn of good luck perhaps & my health is better than predicted & I'm thankful for this extended lease on life! . I really would like to go back to Jakarta & meet up with all if my health conditons permit! Take care all! .

[QUOTE=Master Diver II; 1178899]Hi Bro,

I read your posts. I have my own set of issues with him and it seems I have kept myself more restrained than you. It is a bit rich him calling other people cheapskate. I have also discovered what he has said regarding me to other people but have refrained from mentioning it here. Well it's "caveat emptor" to his clients and good luck. How have you been bro? It's been a while since I heard any news from you.

MD II[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Fisherman; 1182520]It's ok KangK,

Many option can be get during the fasting month. Either affordable or not, that's the question.

Br,

Fish[/QUOTE]I'm at the other end of the archipeligo nearly at the most eastern point of Indo in the jungle with lots of smelly muddy disease ridden women so I'm already puasa until the 26th August then its party time with the GF.

Is Date In Asia legit? Whats up with needing to give the cell phone to register. I'm not real comfortable with that? Anyone have any thoughts?

[QUOTE=Tbahn80;1182866]Is Date In Asia legit? Whats up with needing to give the cell phone to register. I'm not real comfortable with that? Anyone have any thoughts?[/QUOTE]I been on dia for some time and works well. Just give a fake cell number when signing up. Then can sell it to the world who cares as long as your not geting the calls.

Kevin

[QUOTE=Kevinm; 1182873]I been on dia for some time and works well. Just give a fake cell number when signing up. Then can sell it to the world who cares as long as your not geting the calls.

Kevin[/QUOTE]How does that help? DIA texts the access code to activate the account to the cell phone # provided.

[QUOTE=Charlie Horse;1182887]How does that help? DIA texts the access code to activate the account to the cell phone # provided.[/QUOTE]My worry is getting a text in the middle of the night from DIA and my wife finding it. Do they ever text other than the access code?

[QUOTE=Tbahn80;1182895]My worry is getting a text in the middle of the night from DIA and my wife finding it. Do they ever text other than the access code?[/QUOTE]I'm guessing you live in the USA. In much / most of the rest of the world, you would buy a new sim card (with a new tel number) and use it once.

In the USA, get a throw-away phone from Radio Shack or Target or some such place. You might spend only US$10, maybe as much as $19. You probably get a few dollars phone credit with the phone or you can "top up" with $10.

A small price to pay for peace of mind. TTG

[QUOTE=TimTimGuy; 1182924]I'm guessing you live in the USA. In much / most of the rest of the world, you would buy a new sim card (with a new tel number) and use it once.

In the USA, get a throw-away phone from Radio Shack or Target or some such place. You might spend only US$10, maybe as much as $19. You probably get a few dollars phone credit with the phone or you can "top up" with $10.

A small price to pay for peace of mind. TTG[/QUOTE]Sounds like a good plan. Thanks timtimguy

[QUOTE=KangK;1182693]I'm at the other end of the archipeligo nearly at the most eastern point of Indo in the jungle with lots of smelly muddy disease ridden women so I'm already puasa until the 26th August then its party time with the GF.[/QUOTE]Kk,

I'll be in Jakarta by 20th August with some fishes. Care to tag along?

[QUOTE=Fisherman; 1183099]Kk,

I'll be in Jakarta by 20th August with some fishes. Care to tag along?[/QUOTE]Thanks for the offer and appreciate it and I know you don't want to hear this but I'm going to hang out with my GF whilst in Jakarta then heading off to a tiny coconut tree brimmed tropical island paradise going surfing and just hanging out with the GF. My GF is extraordinarily HOT and looks after all of my needs. I also have a bevy of beauties I can call on anytime to come to my hotel room for special services rendered!

Ja, it's legit, man. I've hooked up with some nice ones there and also some flakes but the site is legit. Cherry Blossums, however, has too many scammers in my opinion.

[QUOTE=Tbahn80;1182866]Is Date In Asia legit? Whats up with needing to give the cell phone to register. I'm not real comfortable with that? Anyone have any thoughts?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tbahn80;1182895]My worry is getting a text in the middle of the night from DIA and my wife finding it. Do they ever text other than the access code?[/QUOTE]Signed up about a year ago and never had any more texting from them other than the initial access code. You do seem to be way too concerned about this and have much to lose if your wife finds out so Murphy's Law may very well apply to you here.

[QUOTE=Run Mann;1183295]Signed up about a year ago and never had any more texting from them other than the initial access code. You do seem to be way too concerned about this and have much to lose if your wife finds out so Murphy's Law may very well apply to you here.[/QUOTE]LOL. Thanks run mann for being concerned. Just want to be able to cover my ass haha.

Been bad news for Aussies this week as so far 3 aussies been killed in accidents this week in indo. One was killed on Tuesday at Freeport by a landslide and 2 more were killed on Wednesday when a chopper went down flying to Gosowong Halmahera with 10 dead. 2 Aussies 2 Yarpies and 6 indons. Odds are we should be safe to fly for the next 6 months or so without mishap.

[QUOTE=KangK;1184201]Been bad news for Aussies this week as so far 3 aussies been killed in accidents this week in indo. One was killed on Tuesday at Freeport by a landslide and 2 more were killed on Wednesday when a chopper went down flying to Gosowong Halmahera with 10 dead. 2 Aussies 2 Yarpies and 6 indons. Odds are we should be safe to fly for the next 6 months or so without mishap.[/QUOTE]Chances of being killed in an accident in the next 6 month are exactly what they were before this week, even for Australians. Unless Kangk has some secret info proving that both accidents were related, and that there are more to follow.

[QUOTE=Siepko Bach;1184347]Chances of being killed in an accident in the next 6 month are exactly what they were before this week, even for Australians. Unless Kangk has some secret info proving that both accidents were related, and that there are more to follow.[/QUOTE]Statistics dude! Just plain statistics!

[QUOTE=Tbahn80;1182866]Is Date In Asia legit? Whats up with needing to give the cell phone to register. I'm not real comfortable with that? Anyone have any thoughts?[/QUOTE]Yes, it is legit. I have no reasons to complain and got me some nice Thai girlfriends and one Chinese Malaysian girl. Most of the girls there are Pinays though.

The access code thing weeds out the most obvious and lazy scammers and any that slip through get their accounts blocked as soon as you complain to the admins.

The ads might annoy you a bit, but if you are on FireFox and install Adblocker you will never ever be bothered by the ads again.

[QUOTE=KangK;1184433]Statistics dude! Just plain statistics![/QUOTE]Indeed statistics say that the chances to be killed in an accident remain exactly the same, whether or not some luckless people died a few days ago. Or are you one of those people who gambe on "heads" because the coin came up "tails" three times in a row before?

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1184441]Indeed statistics say that the chances to be killed in an accident remain exactly the same, whether or not some luckless people died a few days ago. Or are you one of those people who gambe on "heads" because the coin came up "tails" three times in a row before?[/QUOTE]When nearly every second day you are hopping into either a twin otter, mallard seaplane or a chopper its nice to have little superstitious beliefs like that as the odds are very likely that you will one day have an accident. Try exploration work in Papua flying anywhere from sea level to 16, 010 feet and you might understand what I'm on about.

Flew in to Jakarta last night and from recommendations was booked at Sparks Hotel Mangga Besar. Close to the action, clean and reasonable price. Did a walk around and saw some gals across the street outside a mall that looked available but wasn't ready to take anything yet. Just getting a feel for the area first.

Back to the room for a shower and then headed over to Hotel Travel, which is just a 5-10min walk. Was a little concerned there wouldn't be much action due to Ramadan but I needn't have worried. Place was packed. Quite an interesting place. My first time there. Giant room with lounge with groups of girls on the left hand wall; bar in the center and I assume karaoke on the right based on the bad vocals pervading the room and coming from that direction.

A mama-san quickly grabbed me and introduced me to a girl who spoke some English from the second set of couches. She was okay looking and I told mama I wanted 2 girls so the first girl picked another (I was willing to over rule as there were a few total dogs on the sofa) and luckily the second was even a bit better looking than the first. I didn't get their names, I wasn't interested in that, but both are from Bandung.

Up to the room; showered with one and then onto the bed while the first girl showered herself. From there on, not much to say, a very very poor performance by this duo. Both of them lazy and and 2 minutes wiping everything dry with tissue. All they wanted to do was have me mount one and finish so they could hang out and do nothing. Once the deed was done the first girl interpreted whilst the second girl gave a sales pitch to be my gf. Sorry, not interested. No tip due to the lousy service.

Total damage 450k.

Girls looks 6/10 (but on a 10 scale not of general public girls which would put them higher but a scale of LBFMs)

Service 2/10.

Would go back just because the place is a lot of fun, watching the girls and the punters, and I think the rest of the experience depends on the girl (s) you end up with.

Tonight I'm supposed to meet a DIA girl but may not call her and try Hotel Classic instead.

Next year I will visit jakarta. But I'm looking for sisters. Twins. Anybody?

[QUOTE=D Cups;1184944]Do tell, please. I heard it was packed with over 100 beauties from different countries. I am specifcally looking for big boobs. Prices, too, please. Many Thanks.[/QUOTE]Been there done that. Just try searching? I wrote the report before that. And some others too.

[QUOTE=KangK;1184774]its nice to have little superstitious beliefs like that as the odds are very likely that you will one day have an accident.[/QUOTE]Might I interest you in a rabbit's foot or a lucky Buddha?

Seems like everyone in Jakarta knows Lokasari but never writes about it (I went back 40pgs in this thread). Since it's just across the street from Sparks Hotel and I was eating outside anyway I picked up one of the girls available hanging out near the KFC. She was probably 20-21yo, brown skin, dark hair (obviously) , and good shape. Just the kind I like. We went back to my hotel room and she was a really good GFE. DFK, DATY, multiple positions and she came multiple times. Really good attitude too. I paid her 300k and then gave her 100k afterwards tip because she was so much fun.

I know there are places pinned on the monger map as Lokasari brothels and I was going to try one of them before I met this girl. However, not sure if they are open or not except for Olympic Hotel spa and sauna because of Ramadan. There is one place that says Lokasari Spa but it seemed only the KTV was open unless its the same door for both.

Went to Jakarta a couple of weeks back and landed up at BATS for the first time. My limited experience in Jakarta has always been in CJ's.

BATS is better lit and has a far better band than CJ's and has far less smoke. On the negative side, the female to male ratio is far better for us punters in CJ's and the girls in CJ's IMHO were of better quality. Went for a few rounds and did not see anything too interesting.

Met a girl who 'did not do this too often since I am a teacher'. But she seemed to know every girl and waiter at the place. I asked her about this and she seemed to be quite upset at these unwelcome deductions. Was about 170 cms and looked quite nice but I hate liars. So just a bourbon and coke for her.

Went for a round again and found a dark Indonesian girl wearing a white top and black minis. Not a stunner but slim (I like them slim) and very presentable with a cheerful attitude. She doesn't drink so it was just fruit mocktails for her. Got chatting and danced to the band. Asked her if she wants to go with me and then it was hand-in-hand upto the room at around 2 am.

She went to the shower and came out to reveal dark nipples, B cups and a nice hard body. Quite normal stuff in bed. BBBJ, followed by various positions for about 20 mins, off with the cover and COF which she took like a champ and did not complain. Had quite a few drinks before-hand and so cuddled up in bed. She said she had a 6 month old. Her body surely did not show that. Woke up around 6:30 with a hard-on and poked her with it until she woke up for the second round LOL.

This time BBBJ and some more positions followed by CIM. She had to go to work and I handed her 700, 000. She said the normal rate is 1 million. She was sweet and nice about it and 300, 000 is not a big deal so handed it over to her. I know I overpaid (I am a keen reader of the forum) but I don't mind paying for good attitude. If she was one of those bitchy ones, I would not have paid a rupiah over 600, 000.

Next time, I have to check out Malioboro.

McM

Paid a visit to Classic on Saturday July 30. The sofas were packed and there were far too few punters. Guess the ISG intel on the pre-Lebaran rush is right. Anyway, my girls told me that Classic is going to be closed till Ramadan end. Anyone knows if it's true? Maybe they lied to keep me in their "clutches" (been seeing these two for four times a row. Yeah, I know it ain't healthy).

With one of my GFs gone home for Ramadan and the other one adamant on observing Ramadan laws it's been a dry nine and a half days. I have RTFF and seen that Alexis will be open, but can anyone confirm? Like. 100% sure Alexis is open this year also? And what about the clubs at Blok M? After an erotic yet funny-in-a-creepy-way experience with Ingga from Top Gun I have stuck to the Classic-Alexis venues and DIA and Mall Hunt. Yet, willing to take a plunge again.

[QUOTE=Tenth Legion; 1185247]Paid a visit to Classic on Saturday July 30. The sofas were packed and there were far too few punters. Guess the ISG intel on the pre-Lebaran rush is right. Anyway, my girls told me that Classic is going to be closed till Ramadan end. Anyone knows if it's true? Maybe they lied to keep me in their "clutches" (been seeing these two for four times a row. Yeah, I know it ain't healthy).

With one of my GFs gone home for Ramadan and the other one adamant on observing Ramadan laws it's been a dry nine and a half days. I have RTFF and seen that Alexis will be open, but can anyone confirm? Like. 100% sure Alexis is open this year also? And what about the clubs at Blok M? After an erotic yet funny-in-a-creepy-way experience with Ingga from Top Gun I have stuck to the Classic-Alexis venues and DIA and Mall Hunt. Yet, willing to take a plunge again.[/QUOTE]Can confirm that Alexis was open last Friday evening. Went to Classic afterwards and it was heaping full of people also.

[QUOTE=Ronin500; 1185085]Seems like everyone in Jakarta knows Lokasari but never writes about it (I went back 40pgs in this thread). Since it's just across the street from Sparks Hotel and I was eating outside anyway I picked up one of the girls available hanging out near the KFC. She was probably 20-21yo, brown skin, dark hair (obviously) , and good shape. Just the kind I like. We went back to my hotel room and she was a really good GFE. DFK, DATY, multiple positions and she came multiple times. Really good attitude too. I paid her 300k and then gave her 100k afterwards tip because she was so much fun.

I know there are places pinned on the monger map as Lokasari brothels and I was going to try one of them before I met this girl. However, not sure if they are open or not except for Olympic Hotel spa and sauna because of Ramadan. There is one place that says Lokasari Spa but it seemed only the KTV was open unless its the same door for both.[/QUOTE]To Ronin 500.

Did you go to the Hotel travel it is just around the corner, I think they open last yr during Ramandan maybe not many girl avalible, there are also Millie disco and night club inside Lokasari on the top floor of the parking garage.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48; 1185306]To Ronin 500.

Did you go to the Hotel travel it is just around the corner, I think they open last yr during Ramandan maybe not many girl avalible, there are also Millie disco and night club inside Lokasari on the top floor of the parking garage.

Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]I did go to Hotel Travel, check down a few reports, I think #5607,

Have left Jakarta and now enjoying myself in SG. Suprising to me there are still many indo gals working. I thought most would have stopped here due to Ramadan but I guess they want that extra cash before idul-fitri

[QUOTE=Ronin500; 1185460]I did go to Hotel Travel, check down a few reports, I think #5607,

Have left Jakarta and now enjoying myself in SG. Surprising to me there are still many indo gals working. I thought most would have stopped here due to Ramadan but I guess they want that extra cash before idul-fitri[/QUOTE]This subject has been written about during past Ramadans, but it's worth repeating.

Almost all of Jakarta's working girls go back to their home villages at some point during Ramadan, to stay there during Lebaran ("Eid") and then return to Jakarta 5-7 days after Eid. However, they don't dare go home unless they have lots of cash in their pockets and presents to give to relatives. Remember, the relatives back home may think that the girl has a respectable, well-paying job in Jakarta, and it's expected that this good fortune is shared with the desperately poor relatives back in the village. Also, many working girls have one or two kids who have been left behind in the village, so they're expected to have cash for school fees, new clothes, etc. For their children.

So, many girls continue to hang around in Jakarta for at least the first 2-3 weeks of Ramadan, either working at one of the hotel MPs that have remained open (Alexis, Travel, Malioboro, etc.) , in one of the low-low end MPs in Kali Jodo or else freelancing in the bars, malls or near the train stations, trying to save up 2 million rupiah (or more) before returning home.

Many of the girls who work at the Maribaya Spa (which is closed during Ramadan) on the 6th floor of Hotel Melawai will cram into one or two rooms at that same hotel, waiting for customers to come by. I remember seeing "Tatik" regularly in one of these rooms during Ramadan in both 2006 and 2007, either alone or as part of a threesome with one of the other girls hanging around. The payment from the first male customer of the day was usually enough to pay for the room and a meal for each girl, so the money from any customers after the first one would be put into the "shopping / travel fund."

You'll find that most of these girls will eventually leave Jakarta around 20-25 days into Ramadan to return to their home village, and most (if not all) of the hotel spas that have remained open during Ramadan will shut down just before the Eid holiday. So, plan your mongering accordingly!

*

P. S. Some of the working girls are Christians who are happy to work during Ramadan.

Hi Spearsman,

Thank you very much for this very informative report, which was worth repeating.

Please give me your predictions regarding availability of girls for the first 2 weeks in September in Jakarta?

Thanks,

Jager.

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman; 1185852]This subject has been written about during past Ramadans, but it's worth repeating.

Almost all of Jakarta's working girls go back to their home villages at some point during Ramadan, to stay there during Lebaran ("Eid") and then return to Jakarta 5-7 days after Eid. However, they don't dare go home unless they have lots of cash in their pockets and presents to give to relatives. Remember, the relatives back home may think that the girl has a respectable, well-paying job in Jakarta, and it's expected that this good fortune is shared with the desperately poor relatives back in the village. Also, many working girls have one or two kids who have been left behind in the village, so they're expected to have cash for school fees, new clothes, etc. For their children.

So, many girls continue to hang around in Jakarta for at least the first 2-3 weeks of Ramadan, either working at one of the hotel MPs that have remained open (Alexis, Travel, Malioboro, etc.) , in one of the low-low end MPs in Kali Jodo or else freelancing in the bars, malls or near the train stations, trying to save up 2 million rupiah (or more) before returning home.

Many of the girls who work at the Maribaya Spa (which is closed during Ramadan) on the 6th floor of Hotel Melawai will cram into one or two rooms at that same hotel, waiting for customers to come by. I remember seeing "Tatik" regularly in one of these rooms during Ramadan in both 2006 and 2007, either alone or as part of a threesome with one of the other girls hanging around. The payment from the first male customer of the day was usually enough to pay for the room and a meal for each girl, so the money from any customers after the first one would be put into the "shopping / travel fund."

You'll find that most of these girls will eventually leave Jakarta around 20-25 days into Ramadan to return to their home village, and most (if not all) of the hotel spas that have remained open during Ramadan will shut down just before the Eid holiday. So, plan your mongering accordingly!

*

P. S. Some of the working girls are Christians who are happy to work during Ramadan.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jager; 1185883]Hi Spearsman,

Thank you very much for this very informative report, which was worth repeating.

Please give me your predictions regarding availability of girls for the first 2 weeks in September in Jakarta?[/QUOTE]Hi Jager,

Eid (known as Lebaran in Indonesia) is probably going to fall on Wednesday, August 31, 2011; the exact date depends on the sighting of the new moon.

Realistically, this means that Jakarta will shut down for the entire week, as the government will declare August 29 & 30 and Sept. 1 & 2 as holidays. There will be a mass exodus of Jakarta residents to their home villages beginning Saturday, August 27. Up to 2 million people will leave town, not to return to Jakarta until September 4th.

[U]Most of the MPs and spas should be open for business by Monday, September 5th, give or take a day or two[/U], and the girls who work at places like Kartika, Berlian, Maribaya, etc will be back to work by then, ready and eager to please their male customers since they'll be totally broke at that point.

One nice phenomenon is that, when the working girls return to Jakarta, they often bring with them some young "barely-legal" girls who are interested in working in Jakarta, especially if the girls are from places such as Indramayu or Semarang. So you'll often find many cute and somewhat-inexperienced 18 year olds working in your favorite spots! Today Country in Lokasari Plaza was particularly well known for this, too bad this place closed down.

The reality here is that there are very few jobs in the villages, and young uneducated girls are lucky to find a job that pays 500, 000 to 600, 000 rupiah a month, so the thought of coming to Jakarta and earning 200, 000 rupiah or more per sex act (or up to 1 million overnight if she finds a generous gentleman at CJ's or BATS) is too good to resist!

Hi Mighty Spearsman,

Thank you for taking the time and describing in detail what will happen regarding our hobby and the availability of girls. Your in-sight and knowledge of the scene is appreciated.

Jager.

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman; 1186069]Hi Jager,

Eid (known as Lebaran in Indonesia) is probably going to fall on Wednesday, August 31, 2011; the exact date depends on the sighting of the new moon.

Realistically, this means that Jakarta will shut down for the entire week, as the government will declare August 29 & 30 and Sept. 1 & 2 as holidays. There will be a mass exodus of Jakarta residents to their home villages beginning Saturday, August 27. Up to 2 million people will leave town, not to return to Jakarta until September 4th.

[U]Most of the MPs and spas should be open for business by Monday, September 5th, give or take a day or two[/U], and the girls who work at places like Kartika, Berlian, Maribaya, etc will be back to work by then, ready and eager to please their male customers since they'll be totally broke at that point.

One nice phenomenon is that, when the working girls return to Jakarta, they often bring with them some young "barely-legal" girls who are interested in working in Jakarta, especially if the girls are from places such as Indramayu or Semarang. So you'll often find many cute and somewhat-inexperienced 18 year olds working in your favorite spots! Today Country in Lokasari Plaza was particularly well known for this, too bad this place closed down.

The reality here is that there are very few jobs in the villages, and young uneducated girls are lucky to find a job that pays 500, 000 to 600, 000 rupiah a month, so the thought of coming to Jakarta and earning 200, 000 rupiah or more per sex act (or up to 1 million overnight if she finds a generous gentleman at CJ's or BATS) is too good to resist![/QUOTE]

Just wondering if anyone has any suggestions and pointers for mall mongering?

[QUOTE=Tbahn80;1186329]Just wondering if anyone has any suggestions and pointers for mall mongering?[/QUOTE]Never seen the point in mall mongering but I was at Atrium Mall the other day by coincidence and couldn't really gather what the scene was about. I mean, it's just shoppers going about their business and apart from a few smiles from shopkeepers nobody really cares. I went through the entire mall between 7-8 PM I didn't notice any single girls hanging around as reported here by someone before. I look more like a mixed local than a foreigner though so maybe you might have a better chance when you go there. Or maybe it's because it's Ramadan time.

Hey guys,

I'll be in Jakarta (my first time there) for a week in October as part of a 2 month mongering trip around Asia.

Staying in Gran Mahakam in Blok-M, from the research I've done it looks like there's quite a bit of action around there in the BlokM bars as well as Maribaya.

Just double checking what the deal is with Maribaya. Still 500ish for 2 shots?

I'm planning to hit up Hotel Travel and CJs / BATS as well to check out some variety

[QUOTE=DrPecker; 1187363]Hey guys,

I'll be in Jakarta (my first time there) for a week in October as part of a 2 month mongering trip around Asia.

Staying in Gran Mahakam in Blok-M, from the research I've done it looks like there's quite a bit of action around there in the BlokM bars as well as Maribaya.

Just double checking what the deal is with Maribaya. Still 500ish for 2 shots?

I'm planning to hit up Hotel Travel and CJs / BATS as well to check out some variety[/QUOTE]Prices in Maribaya are calculated per hour and per girl. If you manage four pops in one hour that's up to you (and a stunned silence

Will greet you as you head for the checkout counter). You will be entered in the hall of fame :-D.

Regards,

Ko

[QUOTE=Koperen Karel; 1187411]Prices in Maribaya are calculated per hour and per girl. If you manage four pops in one hour that's up to you (and a stunned silence

Will greet you as you head for the checkout counter). You will be entered in the hall of fame :-D.

Regards,

Ko[/QUOTE]In '95 my best effort was 6 girls in the course of the whole day from lunchtime till midnight then went downstairs after the 5+1 closed and proceeded with another 3 girls one by one from the infamous Lintas Melawai as I had a room in 609 at the Melawai Hotel. I would have a heart attack nowadays but at least I would be dead with no skin on my dick and a smile on my face. What a way to go!

[QUOTE=KangK;1187472]In '95 my best effort was 6 girls in the course of the whole day from lunchtime till midnight then went downstairs after the 5+1 closed and proceeded with another 3 girls one by one from the infamous Lintas Melawai as I had a room in 609 at the Melawai Hotel. I would have a heart attack nowadays but at least I would be dead with no skin on my dick and a smile on my face. What a way to go![/QUOTE]I think the record in this thread is 10, by XXL or something (long time no see nor hear!). Thanks to enhancers of course and the girls from Stadium.

[QUOTE=Menteng;1187569]I think the record in this thread is 10, by XXL or something (long time no see nor hear!). Thanks to enhancers of course and the girls from Stadium.[/QUOTE]I only started taking the blueys about 8 years ago after I picked up this absolute gorgeous girl got her back to the room but couldn't screw her because willy wouldn't stand to erection. I promised myself never for that situation to happen again as there is nothing worse than when you have a hot chick on your bed with awesome tits and hot bod but all you can do is feel and watch but can't perform.

Its funny how the strippers have taken over the most of the floors at the stadium abd I have even seen them come onto the 4th Floor strutting their stuff which was totally uncool in my books as one minute everyone is off their face headbanging then lights come on and strippers appear with trippers being hassled to buy shots for them. Keep them on the lower floors but not on the 4th floor.

I visited Alexis 2 nights back, lots of girls, nice looking. I picked a local indo girl. 160cm, good tits, but she had too many don't do this, don't doo that. Quite a put off. I like some 4play and kissing for arousal, can you recommend anyone who is cooperative, GFE types, plan to go back on Sunday

[QUOTE=Vicks;1188328]I visited Alexis 2 nights back, lots of girls, nice looking. I picked a local indo girl. 160cm, good tits, but she had too many don't do this, don't doo that. Quite a put off. I like some 4play and kissing for arousal, can you recommend anyone who is cooperative, GFE types, plan to go back on Sunday[/QUOTE]Have a good talk with the papasan about what you want. They know what the girls can do and won't do. I was dissatisfied (but not disappointed) twice due to my own mistake of not quite listening to the papasan.

Lots of the papasan and relationship managers there speak excellent english.

[QUOTE=DrPecker; 1187363]Hey guys,

I'll be in Jakarta (my first time there) for a week in October as part of a 2 month mongering trip around Asia.

Staying in Gran Mahakam in Blok-M, from the research I've done it looks like there's quite a bit of action around there in the BlokM bars as well as Maribaya.

Just double checking what the deal is with Maribaya. Still 500ish for 2 shots?

I'm planning to hit up Hotel Travel and CJs / BATS as well to check out some variety[/QUOTE]Hi Dr.

When are you in Malaysia? I am also planning a trip there but I will go to Indonesia fitst. I am also currently in Bangkok soi 11 so send me a PM if you are still here. We can have a beer and talk about the P4P scene in Malaysia.

A. B

[QUOTE=Valkyrie; 1188334]Have a good talk with the papasan about what you want. They know what the girls can do and won't do. I was dissatisfied (but not disappointed) twice due to my own mistake of not quite listening to the papasan.

Lots of the papasan and relationship managers there speak excellent english.[/QUOTE]Thanks Bro! Will surely check with papasan. Any recommendations are welcome anyway

[QUOTE=Asia Butterfly;1188348]When are you in Malaysia? I am also planning a trip there but I will go to Indonesia fitst.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you are already there? I don't get into Asia till mid Sept (around 22-Sept. Starting with BKK and Patts of course :P). Would definitely be up for getting a beer or two.

I'll be in KL for 4 days starting 9th Oct and then Jakarta for a week after that. Been to KL a few times for work before always had fun, never been to Jakarta before, looking forward to it.

I'm also doing Burma and Cambodia during this trip. Purely p4p / pleasure trip this time no work distractions for 2 months, can't wait!

[QUOTE=Vicks;1188462]Thanks Bro! Will surely check with papasan. Any recommendations are welcome anyway[/QUOTE]It is hard for me to give recommendation as I never tried any local when I was in Alexis. Also, the place has pretty good turnover. I am not sure any info about the girls are still up to date anymore. Perhaps some other senior here can answer that question.

[QUOTE=Vicks;1188462]Thanks Bro! Will surely check with papasan. Any recommendations are welcome anyway[/QUOTE]Check my report from December 2007 which is report number 1596 in this thread. My choice for the night is almost certainly long gone, but I am very, very happy to have listened to the poppasan. Enjoy! And prepare for sticker-shock! TTG

[quote=smoothy; 693655]any mall or basically any place in jakarta is a pickup spot. but blok m mall is nowhere near what atrium is for an easy pickup. i wouldn't rate blok m plaza as a good pickup spot at all.

menteng is right, there are no internet cafes in blok m plaza anymore.[/quote]there is a warnet in plaza blok m at the third floor.

i used it a number of times in july; decent speed.

regards,

ko

[quote=koperen karel; 1189102]there is a warnet in plaza blok m at the third floor.

i used it a number of times in july; decent speed.

regards,

ko[/quote]you must be quoting an old report.

The glory days for Mal Atrium have long since passed. Well, I can't comment on the "glory days" as I have been in Jakarta only a few years. Inspired by the forum, I visited Mal Atrium several times to see what I could find. My results: not much! However, something is still going on there.

There are many older men, om-om, lurking about. They are alone, which is unusual in Indonesia. Om-om stand near the escalators. They drink coffee at the Dunkin Donuts. They watch. I see them looking at any likely woman who passes by. I see them negotiating.

The girls there, however, are not too hot. Usually they are older. 30s or older and fatter and look low class. These Indonesian women look there age. The women congregate by the Cinema21 theater around movie time, at the juice store next to the cinema and at the tables along the side of the food court.

I actually made eye contact with several other women hotter women there before, on separate occasions, and they followed me. But I lost interest. I just went to my regular at Travel.

People waiting for friends and the gay hustlers also wait by the Cinema, so be cool.

Don't approach everyone. Walk around the mall to check things out.

Security comes by and disperses the crowd near the cinema from time to time. Sometimes the women wait inside the cinema, sometimes they walk around the mall. I have also seen likely candidates in the bookstore, one level below the cinema.

The women usually have tight tee shirts, jeans, a big purse.

Some carry small bags from a mall department store as cover, I think, to avoid harassment by the'man.

I think if eye contact is returned you can charge ahead, player.

Invite her for food or a drink or to your hotel. I leave that to your discretion.

After dark, as others have said, women congregate to the far left of the entrance outside.

I see the similar women gathering by the Transjakarta busway bridge outside.

Sometimes as my taxi leaves, a woman will wave as we pull onto the street. So immediately outside the mall is also a good spot.

I was at Atrium after it closed, son't ask, walking along the street in the directions of the McDonalds. I saw a young, smiling pretty girl on a motorcycle.

I could see her manager, a Betawi guy, in the background. That was a first.

I do have limited success. Once I approached a young 18-year-old girl with two friends who had been hanging out near the cinema. She was cherubic, tall and had sexy dress on. Her friends had short shorts and were sexy but not really pretty.

The tall girl had dark skin and could not speak English, but I can speak bahasa. I had already purchased two tickets for a movie and invited her to watch with me.

I offered to give her friends money to watch the film, too.

We went in together and sat to the side of the theater.

Her friends sat in the last row somewhere.

As the movie started I took her hand. I touched her thigh gently. I reached down the front of her dress and held her breast. I took her breast out of the dress and touched her nipple. I started licking it. She moaned. She kissed me deeply and opened her legs and pushed my hand in. It was erotic. It was sexy.

After a few more minutes she "had to go". I gave her Rp 100, 000 and watched the rest of the movie. My first and only experience at Atrium after about a dozen attempts.

I think established places like Travel or Central or the websites offer a lot more opportunity.

Enjoy Jakarta!

[QUOTE=Egy Monger;1187168]Never seen the point in mall mongering but I was at Atrium Mall the other day by coincidence and couldn't really gather what the scene was about.[/QUOTE]

Heading to Jakarta and staying at the Hyatt. Is it going to be easy to getbto Stadium and Maibaya? Any lull in action this week?

Hi guys,

I am planning to be in Jakarta this coming month and need some help in connecting with independent girls. Usually looking for LT. Anyone can suggest? With decent price please! I not a very high budget guy. Thanks.

Bye.

[QUOTE=Apsst6; 1190152]Hi guys,

I am planning to be in Jakarta this coming month and need some help in connecting with independent girls. Usually looking for LT. Anyone can suggest? With decent price please! I not a very high budget guy. Thanks.

Bye.[/QUOTE]I'm not a high-budget guy either but LT options are really limited in this city. There are the Blok-M bars but you won't find anyone to go with you LT for under 700, 000 or maybe 500, 000 if the girl is desperate and you are a good bargainer. Otherwise you can try getting their numbers from places like Classic and Travel then ask them to meet when it's their holiday or during public holidays.

I went down to Kota today, without any real expectations of finding any action. Just as well. I went down past Berlian and Kartika, and there was a sniggering ojeg driver, clearly delighting in the fact that a bule had made the trip down north and was not going to get his rocks off. Okay, fuck you too, asshole. Have a nice Idul Fitri. I bought a few beers at the Circle K, and had them on the median strip on Jalan Gajah Madah. Fuck you and happy lebaran, everyone.

Back through Jaksa. Marina, who is good for a round of hard anal, was chatting up some young tourists, more good luck to her and charge them hard currency, darling. So there was a girl at Memories, Ani, kind of filling in as a waitress. She was chatting me up with the usual bullshit, all very well and all, I bought her a drink, but it was eleven o'clock here and I didn't want to be jerkin' off on my own. So I just asked her straight out, did she have a room, could she take me back, was she okay for three hours, with no issue of meeting someone else later. So I went back to her little room in the warren behind Jaksa. And she was a good, solid worker. I was feeling a bit tired and spun out, clubbing and substances, why'know. So I just asked her if she was okay with sucking my balls for a while, don't hurry it, I hope you aren't expecting this to be over soon. Well, she said she appreciated the business like attitude, we all know where we stood. Since she seemed so agreeable, I asked her if I could fuck her up the arse, but she said she didn't do that. I asked her if she'd find a friend who did next time. She blew out her cheeks and said "You don't mind if she's a bit fat?" I laughed and said, next time, bring on fatso.

She did ask me to do a session of DATY on her, and I was happy to oblige. I'm a bit cynical about girls who do over the top orgasms, but it is possible to find girls in bars in Indonesia who DO actually enjoy sex. Yeah, yeah, beer googles and all. I don't care anyway, but if she wants me to suck her **** for a while, I'm up for it. And she did have very convincing spasms with my fingers up her. If she was faking, she did it very well (a physics teacher at school once told me."If you fake your prac results so convincingly that I can't tell they are faked, then I don't care." He could have been talking straight to Ani. She almost snapped my finger off.)

My house is in Menteng, so it's very convenient to have this Ani girl on call just around the corner. She doesn't seem to have any other job during the day, and she said she'd be quite up for an afternoon session. I don't know if that holds for the fat friend, too, but we'll play it by ear. I did tell her business only, I'll give you some good money, if you're good I'll come back. Don't be surprised if I hit on your friends in the bar. It's a free market economy.

She sucked and she sucked. I gave her Rp 400, 000 but it's lebaran and I'm a softy. She would have been happy with half that. Still, if she's eager to get her fat friend into that tiny room again, I'm happy too.

Has anyone else had any good luck just going up to bars and bordellos and asking up front if they do anal? I respect a woman's right to say no on this, but I'd like to make it clear that that's what I'm looking for. In the past, I've been known to spring for a loss leader, just pick a girl and see what she's good for. It's the first time I've tried this more up-front approach, I'd like to see what the regulars have to say.

I went down to Kota today, without any real expectations of finding any action. Just as well. I went down past Berlian and Kartika, and there was a sniggering ojeg driver, clearly delighting in the fact that a bule had made the trip down north and was not going to get his rocks off. Okay, fuck you too, asshole. Have a nice Idul Fitri. I bought a few beers at the Circle K, and had them on the median strip on Jalan Gajah Madah. Fuck you and happy lebaran, everyone.

Back through Jaksa. Marina, who is good for a round of hard anal, was chatting up some young tourists, more good luck to her and charge them hard currency, darling. So there was a girl at Memories, Ani, kind of filling in as a waitress. She was chatting me up with the usual bullshit, all very well and all, I bought her a drink, but it was eleven o'clock here and I didn't want to be jerkin' off on my own. So I just asked her straight out, did she have a room, could she take me back, was she okay for three hours, with no issue of meeting someone else later. So I went back to her little room in the warren behind Jaksa. And she was a good, solid worker. I was feeling a bit tired and spun out, clubbing and substances, why'know. So I just asked her if she was okay with sucking my balls for a while, don't hurry it, I hope you aren't expecting this to be over soon. Well, she said she appreciated the business like attitude, we all know where we stood. Since she seemed so agreeable, I asked her if I could fuck her up the arse, but she said she didn't do that. I asked her if she'd find a friend who did next time. She blew out her cheeks and said "You don't mind if she's a bit fat?" I laughed and said, next time, bring on fatso.

She did ask me to do a session of DATY on her, and I was happy to oblige. I'm a bit cynical about girls who do over the top orgasms, but it is possible to find girls in bars in Indonesia who DO actually enjoy sex. Yeah, yeah, beer googles and all. I don't care anyway, but if she wants me to suck her **** for a while, I'm up for it. And she did have very convincing spasms with my fingers up her. If she was faking, she did it very well (a physics teacher at school once told me."If you fake your prac results so convincingly that I can't tell they are faked, then I don't care." He could have been talking straight to Ani. She almost snapped my finger off.)

My house is in Menteng, so it's very convenient to have this Ani girl on call just around the corner. She doesn't seem to have any other job during the day, and she said she'd be quite up for an afternoon session. I don't know if that holds for the fat friend, too, but we'll play it by ear. I did tell her business only, I'll give you some good money, if you're good I'll come back. Don't be surprised if I hit on your friends in the bar. It's a free market economy.

She sucked and she sucked. I gave her Rp 400, 000 but it's lebaran and I'm a softy. She would have been happy with half that. Still, if she's eager to get her fat friend into that tiny room again, I'm happy too.

Has anyone else had any good luck just going up to bars and bordellos and asking up front if they do anal? I respect a woman's right to say no on this, but I'd like to make it clear that that's what I'm looking for. In the past, I've been known to spring for a loss leader, just pick a girl and see what she's good for. It's the first time I've tried this more up-front approach, I'd like to see what the regulars have to say.

Hi there.

I was wondering if anyone could recommend a good reliable driver with nice car in Jakarta that is reasonably priced. Thanks in advance.

GV

[QUOTE=Gianni Versace; 1192178]Hi there.

I was wondering if anyone could recommend a good reliable driver with nice car in Jakarta that is reasonably priced. Thanks in advance.

GV[/QUOTE]To GV.

I am not sure why you need a private car it can be done just ask the hotel manager to get you one don't think is going to be cheap, just get a blue birl taxi with meter is very cheap Jarkata unless you are going long distance out of town.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48;1192243]. just get a blue birl taxi with meter is very cheap Jarkata unless you are going long distance out of town.[/QUOTE]There are times when a taxi won't do. For example, you go out to some industrial estate on the edge of town: if you go there in a taxi and just get dropped off, you might have trouble finding another one for ages. Even if you get someone to ring for you, it might take 45 minutes, even on an ordinary day. Lebaran, forget it! Silver Bird is a good intermediate step, they are used to sitting around and waiting for their fare and it's not so bad for an hour or two (although nothing like the old days, when you could merrily use them to drive to Puncak or the beach for ridiculously cheap prices!) Otherwise, you can rent a car for around Rp 500 thou per day if you ask around through local contacts, maybe double that if you arrange it through a hotel. Out of town is extra and if you take a driver over night, you have to negotiate meals and a sleep package for him. Lump sum works best for everyone, if you pay his room at a cheap place the price will be inflated, if he organizes it himself everyone's happier.

[QUOTE=Gianni Versace; 1192178]Hi there.

I was wondering if anyone could recommend a good reliable driver with nice car in Jakarta that is reasonably priced. Thanks in advance.

GV[/QUOTE]I know that in Kompas, the newspaper, you can find ads. But that's in Indonesian, so maybe Jakarta Post can help.

[QUOTE=Gianni Versace; 1192178]Hi there.

I was wondering if anyone could recommend a good reliable driver with nice car in Jakarta that is reasonably priced. Thanks in advance.

GV[/QUOTE]GV,

Check out this link:

[url]http://www.bluebirdgroup.com/passenger-transportation/limousine-car-rental-golden-bird[/url]

This is the option I'm using for my transportation while in Jakarta. It's around 250$ US per day for 12 hours for car and English speaking driver. I know it's expensive but to me it's worth having a reliable, English speaking driver and a nice Mercedes in an unfamiliar area. Hope this helps

Is Today Country reopened?

Plaza Lokasari Lantai 1 Blok B Unit 36.

Jl. Mangga Besar Raya No. 81.

Taman Sari, Jakarta Barat.

INDONESIA 11170.

Looking for authoritative information.

[QUOTE=Egy Monger;1190964]I'm not a high-budget guy either but LT options are really limited in this city. There are the Blok-M bars but you won't find anyone to go with you LT for under 700, 000 or maybe 500, 000 if the girl is desperate and you are a good bargainer. Otherwise you can try getting their numbers from places like Classic and Travel then ask them to meet when it's their holiday or during public holidays.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Anyone can recommend any independents?

[QUOTE=Tbahn80; 1192333]GV,

Check out this link:

[url]http://www.bluebirdgroup.com/passenger-transportation/limousine-car-rental-golden-bird[/url]

This is the option I'm using for my transportation while in Jakarta. It's around 250$ US per day for 12 hours for car and English speaking driver. I know it's expensive but to me it's worth having a reliable, English speaking driver and a nice Mercedes in an unfamiliar area. Hope this helps[/QUOTE]The same blue bird group also offers normal cars with English speaking drivers at a price starting from@7 million per month. Petrol is yours. Or you can just flag down a silver bird Merc and go in the meter rate. Most silver bird drivers speak English

Hi JAD,

Selamat Idul Fitri. Your mail box is full. Can you clear it up.

Cheers

Hello, Every Brother,

I was new in this field will plan to visit Jakarta a few month later,

Did anyone can recommend me some hotel that can easily for find some action during night time?

Thank You and appreciate it.

[QUOTE=Tawau Guy; 1192959]Hello, Every Brother,

I was new in this field will plan to visit Jakarta a few month later,

Did anyone can recommend me some hotel that can easily for find some action during night time?

Thank You and appreciate it.[/QUOTE]Hotel Mulia or Shangri La.

Both of which have clubs in the hotel that are well known pick up joints. Enjoy my friend.

I will be travelling to Jakarta in a few weeks, will land on a fridat night at 9 pm. And leave on Sunday at 6 pm.

Have bee reading many great reports but would like to aks you where it's best to stay for a first timer like me, I would like to find a girl for the night in my hotel for a reasonable price (any hotel suggestions are wellcome as well)

Any help is apreciated!

[QUOTE=Gianni Versace; 1192178]Hi there.

I was wondering if anyone could recommend a good reliable driver with nice car in Jakarta that is reasonably priced. Thanks in advance.

GV[/QUOTE]That depends on your definition of a nice car. I did hire a car and driver which my cousin normally uses in Jakarta. He uses a Toyota Innova in very good condition. The cost was 700k a day + petrol (if I remember correctly). There are many like him and I have had a few reliable ones recommended at the airport too with similar rates. You can also ask the guys at the Indotel counter or even just after customs. I have yet to have problems, although I rarely hire a vehicle and driver. If you take a smaller vehicle (equivalent to Toyota Avanza) the cost can drop to 450k a day. As another member has suggested, you could take a Silverbird on a need basis and ask him to wait for you with the meter running. It all depends on what you need the vehicle for.

MDII

[QUOTE=Magimbe; 1193751]I will be travelling to Jakarta in a few weeks, will land on a Friday night at 9 pm., and leave on Sunday at 6 pm.

Have bee reading many great reports but would like to aks you where it's best to stay for a first timer like me, I would like to find a girl for the night in my hotel for a reasonable price (any hotel suggestions are wellcome as well)

Any help is apreciated![/QUOTE]You are not only a first-time visitor to Jakarta, you are also a first-time poster to the board. Who are you? and why should we help you if you've never bothered to contribute to the board before now? RTFF!

And even if you were a long-time contributor, it would still be difficult to help you since you want to pay "a reasonable price" but you don't define what reasonable means to you. The "Hotel Le Meridien" is very girl-friendly (as are most hotels in Jakarta) and has a night club in the basement (the "Tiga Puluh" bar) that's a well-known pick-up spot; you could probably book a room here for USA $80-$90. Is that a reasonable price? or is it too high?

Cheaper possibilities are the Sparks Hotel and the Mercure Rekso (name may have changed) in the Jalan Mangga Besar area, both around $50. Again, RTFF, meaning you should do your research on the board. Check out the "Hotels" section of the board, or look up the KAHA website.

Also, why not post a few reports on the place where you currently reside?

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman; 1194627]You are not only a first-time visitor to Jakarta, you are also a first-time poster to the board. Who are you? And why should we help you if you've never bothered to contribute to the board before now? RTFF!

And even if you were a long-time contributor, it would still be difficult to help you since you want to pay "a reasonable price" but you don't define what reasonable means to you. The "Hotel Le Meridien" is very girl-friendly (as are most hotels in Jakarta) and has a night club in the basement (the "Tiga Puluh" bar) that's a well-known pick-up spot; you could probably book a room here for USA $80-$90. Is that a reasonable price? Or is it too high?

Cheaper possibilities are the Sparks Hotel and the Mercure Rekso (name may have changed) in the Jalan Mangga Besar area, both around $50. Again, RTFF, meaning you should do your research on the board. Check out the "Hotels" section of the board, or look up the KAHA website.

Also, why not post a few reports on the place where you currently reside?[/QUOTE]Thank you for your information Mighty Spearsman, I have checked out all posts in the last 10 months, I found a lot of useful information but got also confused by some post.

I was considering the Mercure Rekso, if I can find Le Meridien for 80 or 90 $ that would be fine too.

Am looking for some girl to spend the night LT, can you still suggest BLOK M as a pick-up place or is there anything better.

I will of course report once am back from the trip, unfortunately there isn't anything to report from where I come from.

Thanks again!

[QUOTE=Magimbe;1194833]Am looking for some girl to spend the night LT, can you still suggest BLOK M as a pick-up place or is there anything better.[/QUOTE]Magimbe, I sort of agree with Mighty Spearsman, but here's 10 seconds worth of info: go to Top Gun on Jalan Pelatehan any day of the week after 11 pm. You will be fresh meat and all the girls will know it, so expect to pay Rp 700 thou a night. Old timers get it cheaper, but you'd be very lucky as a newbie. Earlier than 11 is no good. TG is by no means my favourite bar in Jakarta, but it's probably the easiest for someone like you looking for an all nighter.

Good luck.

Someone else can help out with the hotels.

[QUOTE=Magimbe; 1193751]I will be travelling to Jakarta in a few weeks, will land on a fridat night at 9 pm. And leave on Sunday at 6 pm.

Have bee reading many great reports but would like to aks you where it's best to stay for a first timer like me, I would like to find a girl for the night in my hotel for a reasonable price (any hotel suggestions are wellcome as well)

Any help is apreciated![/QUOTE]Magimbe, I totally understand where MS is coming from. Your join date is 04-01-04 ie more than seven years ago and this is your first post! Check the hotel section and please remember that the term reasonable is VERY subjective. I know some people who wouldn't think twice about spending several million rupiahs a night on a girl and others who wouldn't pay more than 500, 000. Likewise as far as hotels are concerned. There is more than enough information here for a first time visitor to use. Kindly use it and report and you'll be surprised how much more welcome you'll be made to feel. Just my two cents worth.
[QUOTE=Jkt After Dark 2;1194741]
MD: I tried to PM you yesterday and it seemed your Inbox was full. Anyway, if you haven't resolve your "domestic staff" situation I suggest you to Google BUGITO Penyalur Pembantu. This agency is a reputable one.
JAKARTA AFTER DARK[/QUOTE]
Bro, sorry my inbox was kind of full. I managed to clear some of it now. I googled but will have to read carefully - almost too much information - maybe I have to go there to sort it out? :p ;)

MD II

[QUOTE=Magimbe; 1193751]I will be travelling to Jakarta in a few weeks, will land on a fridat night at 9 pm. And leave on Sunday at 6 pm.

Have bee reading many great reports but would like to aks you where it's best to stay for a first timer like me, I would like to find a girl for the night in my hotel for a reasonable price (any hotel suggestions are wellcome as well)

Any help is apreciated![/QUOTE]Book hotel Mercure Reckso now called Mercure Kota I think.

Pay for your visa on arrival at the airport for about 20 euros or the equivalent in USD, then change some money or use an ATM.

Avoid all the taxi touts outside and use only the 'BLUE BIRD' taxi company, with light blue colored cars. 10-15 meters to your right.

There is a young guy there, list with him and within 10-15 min your turn will come. About 120-130k to the hotel.

Go to Top Gun as others suggested or to the Stadium which is within walking distance to your left exiting Mercure and across the big road very close to a starbucks cafe.

Next day take a taxi, always blue bird, to the left inside that big road and for about 7k go to hotel Travel for an early afternoon delight for about 330-350k. Alternative on the way to Starbucks on the small streets to your left there are a lot of massage places like Berlian and others where you can also have an afternoon delight for 250-300k. Best and more selection at hotel Travel though plus better and cleaner rooms. You can also pay them with a credit card for a small extra fee at Travel hotel. Classic hotel is a little farther from the hotel lets say about 12-15k. Up the mechanical escalator and you'll have the same experience as in the Travel hotel.

Get your self another bluebird to the airport and have 150k handy for the airport departure tax.

Have fun and report in order not to have the same very reasonable arguments again.

Forgive my memory, but as the hottest ladies was in HT, ok for that price, is it possible to take them out? Or is it only an ordinary brothel?

PB

[QUOTE=Primo Bolan; 1195816]Forgive my memory, but as the hottest ladies was in HT, ok for that price, is it possible to take them out? Or is it only an ordinary brothel?

PB[/QUOTE]Others may have different experiences, but I wouldn't think Hotel Travel is a good place for take out. You could do it through the mama-san, but it would cost a lot. At some other places (Berlian springs to mind) , if you like the girl, it's usually pretty easy to get her number to meet her again later. She's usually quite eager to do it and the price is usually quite reasonable, because she's cutting out the middleman.

Hi,

I got so many useful information here so just want to pay back.

(I am a Korean so my English is not that good.)

Tried to check Patatehan and Tiga puluh yesterday (Sep. 10)

10:50

As ususal, so many girls in Top Gun. I still am used to be there and pick one of them, when I am alone.

And after Idul fitri, some of them are more aggressive.

D's place is re-open and G string is closed.

Oscar is almost empty.

Taxi drivers on the street are alway big problem. They asked Rp 100, 000 to Karet.

So walk for 3 minutes to Bus terminal and got a taxi.

12:30

Want to go Tiga Puluh because I started to live in 'Karet' area.

Rp 130, 000 for entrance fee. More expensive than before.

When I was there 3 years ago, there were many girls,

But now, not many and most of them already with their man.

Talk with a guy (an Indonesian) in front of the bar, Tiga puluh is not so popular nowdays.

He recommand Hotel Mulia for me, because I am an Asian.

If westerner, Hetel Shangrila is better, according to him.

I am not sure if it is true or not.

Anyway, maybe I will not go Tiga Puluh again.

Thanks.

Jakarta After Dark-what do you mean?

"Cuba Tourist: Today Country is closed for good but the network for that profile still exists at Lokasari."

The girls are still hanging around the area?

[QUOTE=Jkt After Dark 2;1196073]PB: It is possible to take the girls at Hotel Travel out but at overnight rate. The overnight is defined as multiple pops until 10 am. If I am not mistaken the overnight rate is 850k after 12 pm and you have to pay 300k extra for every hour before 12 pm. So, when are you going to visit Jakarta again?[/QUOTE]Is that right? Cheaper than I would have thought! Last time I was at HT, the girl I was with was sulking and pouting and complaining about some guy downstairs who wanted to take her out for the whole night. She wasn't into it, said the money (for her!) wasn't good enough. I remember I was done and wanted to go, but she asked me to stay in the room for the full hour so that maybe the guy would have given up and taken someone else. First time that's happened!

[QUOTE=Gonzo Two;1196272]Is that right? Cheaper than I would have thought! Last time I was at HT, the girl I was with was sulking and pouting and complaining about some guy downstairs who wanted to take her out for the whole night. She wasn't into it, said the money (for her!) wasn't good enough. I remember I was done and wanted to go, but she asked me to stay in the room for the full hour so that maybe the guy would have given up and taken someone else. First time that's happened![/QUOTE]To Gonzo,

Did you get to pop her one more time most girl don't want to go all nighter because they don't get alot of the money, the house get a large percentage of it better to get two girl for one hour.

Short time is a good vaule.

Fast Eddie 48

D Cups: If you have the look and the charm like Master Diver II or Freebie Fan or Jritz than it should be that hard to pick up non-pros. Good luck!

GT: The figure is right but you are expected to tip the girls for good service. Hotel Travel allows take out on their terms and conditions but the girls can also say they don't want to do overnight job or they don't want a certain "overnight" clients like they say no to a certain in-calls clients.

Re ..., said the money (for her!) wasn't good enough. Most bordello massage parlors and I think all bordello spas work with adult manpower suppliers. These girls or their parents withdraw money in advance so basically they work against the balance. This is the reason they really appreciate good tippers.

[QUOTE=D Cups;1196113]Hi guys, I'm going to Jakarta for the first time next March. I have a DIA date lined up and plan on visiting Alexis Hotel but I'm curious how easy is it to pick up non-pros? Is it like PI? Thanks for any replies. And if you see any slim and STACKED babes kindly point me in that direction.[/QUOTE]D Cups,

It's easy enough if you're used to the game; you just have to be observant enough and show yourself as a fun person to be with, then anything is possible. Go with the profile, some want a wild night out, others want a softer more romantic approach (bedding on the first date is possible but not always on the cards YMMV). If you're making dates from DIA, much as it sounds somewhat ungentlemanly, it does pay to make a few appointments staggered at 15-30 minute intervals (45-60 if you don't mind waiting) so if you hit one, you can call the others off. Jakarta women can be unreliable with first dates. Anything might cause them to call it off. For all you know, you might not be the only date for that particular evening. And if it rains, be prepared for cancellations due to rain / traffic etc. Try to make the appointments in nearby locations convenient to you. You won't want to travel an hour and a half in a taxi to find out your date is called off. Good luck.

[QUOTE=Jkt After Dark 2;1196073]MD: Hmm, you just found a reason to visit Jakarta again - right?! Hehe, see you around mate.
JAKARTA AFTER DARK[/QUOTE]
I wish it was that simple bro, but i do have other "valid" reasons... ;)

[QUOTE=Gonzo Two;1196272]Is that right? Cheaper than I would have thought! Last time I was at HT, the girl I was with was sulking and pouting and complaining about some guy downstairs who wanted to take her out for the whole night. She wasn't into it, said the money (for her!) wasn't good enough. I remember I was done and wanted to go, but she asked me to stay in the room for the full hour so that maybe the guy would have given up and taken someone else. First time that's happened![/QUOTE]
JAD's correct, I've done this before when we were out once. You just take the girl at midnight. The usual rules apply - if the girl thinks you're a nice friendly guy, they're happier to do it.

MD II

[QUOTE=Jkt After Dark 2;1196337]Most bordello massage parlors and I think all bordello spas work with adult manpower suppliers.[/QUOTE]Interesting. I suppose they have some kind of "recruitment centers" in Indramayu? HT seems to be almost all Indramayu girls. I always think it's a bad sign when all the girls come from Indramayu. Some of the places like Berlian have much more mixed demographic. Come to think of it, the most fun I ever had at HT (the girl I mentioned) , she said she was a Betawi.

I find the Pangeran Jakarta bars in Jakarta Barat to be more personal and inviting, as they have a less pushy feel than Hotel Travel, Classik and the likes. It also seems to me that the newcomers from the kampung typically end up here first then the abovementioned places.

[B]Unknown, next to Astik disco[/B]: Forgot the name. Mainly focused on the Karaoke but in the tiny room at the corner there were about 8-10 ayams for picking. None had decent looks and the youngest looked 35. Very poor, broken and old design, place looks filthy. Didn't take anyone but mamasan said damage was 295, 000.

[b]Astik disco[/b]: Empty and nobody inside. Weird as it always has huge techno noise coming from inside.

[b]MTR1[/b] One or two do-ables out of 20, the rest same as that Unknown place I talked about. Ayam are seated in a small room. Interior design very poor and shabby and the rooms had a bad smell coming from the shower as well as the hallway leading to the rooms. Damage was 300, 000.

[b]Royal[/b] Very modern and clean, it looks like a lot has been spent renovating it. 30-40 girls, pushy mamasan and papasans but clear view from outside fishbowl-style. Although this place had the best stunner, out of 4 girls I picked they had bad attitude upstairs (no BBBJ, no duo-showering, no catbath, rushy attitude). Damage was 350, 000, most expensive in area.

[b]Laras Ayu[/b] Most expensive drinks. 49, 000 for a Bintang bottle. They follow some kind of system unique where girls greet themselves to you theirself instead of through a mamsan or papsan. 20 girls in small room in corner but the girls are free to roam around. Good DJ. Young and fresh-from-kampung type and very good service. Damage 300, 000.

[b]SariAyu[/b] My favourite. System is free-roaming as there is no room where the ayam are seated like the other bars. Mamasans and papasans pushing girls left and right to you. Once you like a girl they find for you, you can stay in the bar with your new-found company whilst finishing a drink or chatting. If you want a new girl, just politely signal to her you want her to leave. If you decide to take her just ask the mamsan or papsan who will check up on you every now and then. The girls are rotated weekly so there is always new faces. Girls are youngest (18-25 max) in the whole Pangjay area and out of 8 or so girls I tried they beat the service of all the others in the area. Damage 280, 000