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As far as [i]'buying'[/i] a sex slave, I was thinking about this idea for a longer trip. I thought it would be cool to rent a nicer apartment for a month. Something in a high rise so the street noise is minimal, a jacuzzi, california king-size bed, etc.
Then, spend a few days wandering the bars looking for a few girls who would be amenable to being sex bunnies for a few weeks. Basically pay them a good rate but have rules like: only lingerie or nudity while in the house, meet me at the door when I come in and perform some sexual act as a hello, bathe and manicure me, sex/smoking on demand... Damn! I want to go back to LOS!
Figure 3 or 4 girls for about 100,000B + food/rent? Is this reasonable?
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Skinless,
Remember Progman, the guy whose tripreports you didn't want in your mail?
He just wrote this on the AC board:
'Hope you get over that sore throat soon - too much DATY if you ask me.'
Now, doesn't that sound familiar?
PNG,
"100,000B'.. You just failed your first Freeler's Bargaining Course test:(!
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Freeler -- spank taken, I'll try work on the photos (gotta organize them and chop them down, unless you like 8 meg jpgs.) Haven't actually checked that mailbox in a while...
General maid cost estimates, listed by the Thai government, run 6000 to 10,000baht per month for Bangkok -- it's cheaper elsewhere. So Skinless, I think you're probably reasonably close in your rates. PNG presumes paying pretty premium rates, probably what you'd get if you're planning to track them down by scouring go-gos, but in that case you'd better plan on paying barfines for all of them on an ongoing basis as well, as no TG is going to quit her job there for only a guaranteed month. A place to stay and ongoing employment obviously would keep costs lower than a one-month rental approach. That said, PNG, if you're planning to pay 25-30k per girl per month, or basically 1000baht a day, you're certainly not going to have much trouble filling your roster! Staying alive in such an environment and keeping the ladies all there, focused only on you, and getting along with each other is another matter entirely.
And as far as this topic -- the issue is whether or not people are taking risks with knowledge or not. Skinless took risks this time with clear understanding of the potential consequences, Freeler looks at the risks and decides to avoid them completely. I fall in the middle, choosing to be safer than Skinless and less so than Freeler. But all of us are doing this with knowledge of what is at stake -- people will behave in whatever ways they wish, but those who engage in unsafe behaviors based on lack of knowledge are far more dangerous, in my opinion, than those who know the risks but decide what their tolerance is toward them. The latter also know enough to know when concern is warranted, how generally to minimize their risks, and to get treated in the event there's a problem. The ignorant are generally oblivious hear-no, see-no, speak-no monkeys.
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Joe,
you are right; keeping ladies locked in and ready to please is a big chalenge.
The Vietnamese emperor Tu Duc (I think in the late 18th century) had a harem of more than a hundred concubines. He once remarked that the Empire was easier to rule than the harem, with all the favorites fighting each other and meddling with politics.
He even sent a large number of them packing once...
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Joe_zop,
Check your mail for a photo downsizing tip!
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I wasn't thinking of keeping them locked up. I was thinking more of a playboy mansion deal. The girls with me most of the time. Going out bar hopping at night... I'd be on vacation, so the only time I would leave would be so that I could come home and get the described welcome home :)
Freeler. Damn! I'll do better. But, I was thinking ~1000B/day/girl with a slight discount because of the long term opportunity. Also, I was thinking of Freelancers so that the bar-fine wouldn't be an issue. What would you say is the correct price?
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Information found on this WSG site regarding the herpes test kit, "PocKit" was GREAT! However, my initial investigation and contact with the company Diagnology indicates I must find a local physician to order the kits for me. The OraQuick for HIV testing can be ordered in 25 lots directly off their web site: www.orasure.com in that quantity they are $300. or $12.00 per kit. I went to the Central Idaho District Health Center and told Sherry I was going to Thailand and she said I should probably go ahead and start the Hepatitis A, B series (second one in a month, just before I leave and last one 6 months from now then I'll be set on those for the rest of my life). Also she gave me a typhoid immunization, tetnus because it's good for only 10 years, and did another polio vaccine since the last time I had it was, as a kid. She also gave me about 50 condoms, she said they are still the best protection! Not to brag but I'll probably need more than that!!! Lastly . . . though I don't want to be mistaken for Michael Jackson, I 'm seriously considering wearing a surgical (respiratory) mask to and from Thailand on the commercial jet. Also thinking about taking sleeping pills, one of those travel neck pillows, earplugs, and try and sleep for most of the 20 hour duration flight. Lon
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As I did say on the CM-thread: I will not indulge in any immunity discussion - but I guess some of you want to read this:
[url]www.musc.edu/dc/icrebm/sensitivity.html[/url]
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Zidaho
Thank you for your post. I took the liberty of copying the part about test kits to the safe sex section (under special interests) where the discussion has taken place.
If you find the test kits in Thailand, please share your experience with us.
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Sabio, Philo,
Like Philo I avoid this discussion like the plague, BUT when false statistics are used, my blood boils and I can'd help myself, so:
'But there is another side to the test. Of our original one million, 990,000 are not infected. If we look at the test results on the HIV negative population (remember the specificity of the assay is 99.9%), we find that 989,010 are found to be not infected by the ELISA (true negatives -- TN), but we have 990 individuals who are found to be positive by the ELISA (false positives -- FN).'
FUCK THAT!!!
ONLY people who KNOW they have a reason to be tested get tested. NOT the others in the population of 1,000,000.
So, the entire bit between' and ' sucks and therefore the rest of the story.
A test that is 99.9% reliable is as reliable as ANYTHING gets.
My first and last 2cents on this.
Peace:)
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I think the key issue in the citation is that out of the hypothetical one million tested with 1% infected, ten out of the ten thousand who [i]are[/i] infected would produce false negatives. A false positive isn't what is the concern -- if you test positive obviously you're going to want to be retested, and confirm things. The concern is those who are told they're negative when in fact they're not, as then you open to door to potentially unsafe behavior. If .1% of the infected population is going to be missed by the test, then in Thailand, where the infection rate is in the 2% range, that means that if you gave everyone in the country a test, 1200 people who were infected would show up as ok.
That's looking at things completely on a vanilla statistical basis, and it would be very worrisome to say that there were 1200 TGs running around who'd been tested as clean who were not. The reality is different, of course. (But since the discussion has been about testing kits...)
Thailand's efforts have changed things, and improved the infection rate in the commercial sex environment, where condoms are far more frequently used than in the past. A decade or so ago 80% of all AIDS cases in Thailand came from sex workers and their clients. The most recent information I've been able to find says that the vast majority of new HIV/AIDS cases in Thailand are now husband/wife, drug users, or male-male sex, and that 20% come from sex workers and their clients.
BTW, Thailand's Health Ministry announced a couple of months ago that the infection rate among Thai teenagers, one of the high risk groups, had risen substantially over the past year, with the rate of increase rising from 11 to 17%. This runs counter to recent years, when the number of new STD cases has dropped dramatically.
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Folks,
I finally did the calculation to decide which is safer: condoms or test kits. The results are in the safe sex section (under special interests).
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Yes Joe, when you are looking at this 'in general' there is some cause for worry due to the numbers cited. However, as the prevalence of a disease (or chance thereof) increases in a population the chance of false negatives decreases.
As has been stated before, the best screening test has the highest sensitivity (lowest false negatives). There is no test that is 100% accurate (although if you look at the test numbers cited in Orasure's pamphlet, they got that but used pretty low number of test subjects). A test that is 99.9% accurate while not perfect does a pretty good job of screening out high risk candidates.
Of course this still belies the 'window' period where one could be infected by HIV and still not show antibody production (which is what the orasure test measures). Most people will seroconvert after 12 weeks. The '6 month' standard is the outside of the bell curve for positive test (some will seroconvert in as little as a few weeks).
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Can someone please tell me how I can buy some Orasure test kits? I called the Company, and they told me that they will only sell their Rapid HIV Kits to Heathcare Professionals.
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[quote]originally posted by joe_zop [i]i figured i should post a follow-up, since i blathered on around here with my travails earlier. when i got back home i had another bout with the same symptoms as when i was in los. went to my regular doctor, and he prescribed both the same doxy as the doc i saw in chiang mai, noting that both clamydia and a urinary tract infection were likely, took a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url] sample, and also gave me a shot for other nasties just in case. got a call today after i called to check on the sample -- a confirmed hit for gonorrea. ............... [/i][/quote]
j_z, all
i am sorry to say that i have picked up something, and i am heading for the farang doctor tomorrow. i do not feel exited about having sample pins stuck into my dick, so i was wondering: chlamydia can be detected from urin, is the same the case for gonohrea?
warning i think i picked it up aug 6 from a bbbj from a young girl in one of the ground floor open air nana beer bars. she only do bjs because she is 'sick in stomach. doctor say no boom boom 2 month'. it was first the day after she showed me some medicine (fuck me i did not write down the name) and she spelled from the thai paper goo-noo ..... i was too drunk to be intelligent, but now i have asked one of my friends to seek her up with a dictionary that contains the word in thai.
i do not want to ruin anyones business and will therefore speak no details: but if it turns out the worst, i shall have to reconsider bbbjs ...........
